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Speaker 1: My mother in law says I ruined my baby's photo,

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Speaker 1: but she's just a bad photographer.

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Speaker 2: That's a skill issue.

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Speaker 1: Need to get some feedback on this because it's driving

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Speaker 1: me crazy. My thirty seven female family has been staying

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Speaker 1: with my husband, thirty six male parents, fifty nine female,

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Speaker 1: and fifty nine mail for a week and we'll be

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Speaker 1: at their home for another week before we have to

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Speaker 1: head home to get the kids ready for back to school.

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Speaker 1: My mother in law and I don't necessarily get along,

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Speaker 1: but she's been trying to play nice since I gave

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Speaker 1: birth to our fourth child, a boy, four months ago.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, and we'll try to give our

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Speaker 1: best advice. But we have not always experienced these situations,

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Speaker 1: So if you have, let us know down in the

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Speaker 1: comments what you would do or have done. But Opie says, However,

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Speaker 1: I suppose the nice act has ended because she's been

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Speaker 1: stirring the pot and pushing my buttons since we got

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Speaker 1: to their house. She's been rummaging through my clothes, whining

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Speaker 1: that I should bottle feed instead of nursing so she

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Speaker 1: has a chance to feed her baby. I've been biting

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Speaker 1: my tongue because my husband loves his family and this

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Speaker 1: is some of the only time we get to see

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Speaker 1: his siblings. But at the end of this week, mother

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Speaker 1: in law storms downstairs while we were eating breakfast and

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Speaker 1: the kids are in the yard playing, claiming we needed

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Speaker 1: to talk. I go through a mental checklist to try

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Speaker 1: to figure out which one of her household rules I've

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Speaker 1: broken or how I've managed to piss her off this

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Speaker 1: time when she slabs her phone down on the counter

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Speaker 1: and begins scrolling through photos that are all of me

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Speaker 1: and the baby. Photos that she apparently took while I

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Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention, as most of them are blurry or

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Speaker 1: from strange angles down low, as though she angled her

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Speaker 1: phone up while it was taken in her lap. One

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Speaker 1: of them is taken.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like the most horrific angle you could have.

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Speaker 3: It's like she's like, just the straight up I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's exactly what you get from that angle.

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Speaker 2: And then the baby's just like looking right.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. One of them is taken through a crack in

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Speaker 1: the door in the in the my husband and I's bedroom.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what is she doing?

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Speaker 3: It's an aesthetic choice, uh.

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Speaker 2: Stalker core?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I ask mother in law what her problem

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Speaker 1: is and why she's been taking photos of me and

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Speaker 1: the baby like a lunatic instead of just asking for

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Speaker 1: my help with taking photos that I'd approve of. I

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Speaker 1: don't want my infant son's face plastered all over social media.

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Speaker 1: I cover it with emoji's in my Facebook pictures. But

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Speaker 1: she complains that she doesn't want to put those stupid

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Speaker 1: of him by himself. He's been contact napping and I

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Speaker 1: and ruining them by looking ridiculous for context. I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: And because half of these photos are from a weird

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Speaker 1: is usually pressed up against me, either in my arms

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Speaker 1: or his rap, So the photos are pretty much just

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Speaker 1: unflattering pictures of me with baby's head and maybe an

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Speaker 3: So yeah, every photo from that angle will be unflattering,

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Speaker 3: even if you're like a super model, like, yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: You always want the camera above eye line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I tell her that I'm not going to entertain

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Speaker 1: already got. But she's definitely not getting a solo photo

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Speaker 1: off with my baby now. Hobby is understanding in sports

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Speaker 1: mother in law trying to sneakily take more photos or

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Speaker 1: people think that I'm blowing this out of proportion. W Hubby,

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Speaker 1: Father in law says that mother in law has a

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Speaker 1: right to take photos of her grandchild, and it's not

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Speaker 1: her fault that I'm insecure about how fat I am.

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Speaker 1: Hubby is. Twin sisters also being dismissive because, quote, she's

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Speaker 1: always been catty about weight. Why are you acting so

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Speaker 1: insulted like it's the first time. Even my sister, when

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Speaker 1: making mountains out of moils. She was like, this sixty

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Speaker 1: No one will listen to me when I insist that

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Speaker 1: I don't care about her comments and my weight. I

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Speaker 1: because she doesn't respect me enough to ask my permission

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Speaker 1: to take photos of my baby. She's paparazzi. Paparazzi, Oh rotsy.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't want to have to follow my rules about

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Speaker 1: acting like a creep instead. And I'm nursing him in

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Speaker 1: one of these photos. So this is weird? Right? Am

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Speaker 1: I crazy? And there is an edit? But yes, that

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Speaker 1: is weird, and you are not crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like a it just comes down to

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Speaker 3: a respect thing. Yeah, you're like, I don't want pictures taken.

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Speaker 3: I don't care, right, and you only care because you're overweight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I feel like at a certain point, it's like, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: if I can't trust that you're not going to take

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Speaker 1: are out because I'm nursing my child, ye, then I

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Speaker 1: don't want you around out he's out, So you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the next option is just like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm comfortable having his face on social media.

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Speaker 3: I think the next option she would just be like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just to have some spitballs lined up ready

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Speaker 1: She's like, oh, we do have an edit. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for proof that I'm not crazy. You're so welcome.

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Speaker 1: I honestly didn't even think about going home early. I

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Speaker 2: Dang, how many drinks did they have on the boat.

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Speaker 1: He and I have been texting since he left early

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Speaker 1: and we're planning on having a conversation about what time

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Speaker 1: the drive back. Thank you all for the advice and

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Speaker 1: company with your comments while I packed my stuff. And

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Speaker 1: we do have a real update here, a big time update.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big time update, big time rush.

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Speaker 1: Oh, let's rush on into this big time update. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to update because I got home with

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Speaker 1: Just communicated with my husband and my fourteen year old

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Speaker 1: his mother huffed and started grumbling about how dramatic I am,

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Speaker 3: Not your baby, No, your baby, not your baby's actually

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Speaker 3: our baby, not your baby.

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Speaker 1: It's our baby. It's okay, story times of baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my baby.

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Speaker 1: Your dad nine months.

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Speaker 2: Congrats, I'm gonna be a dad me and an uncle.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm gonna be the best uncle ever.

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Speaker 2: Buncle uncle.

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Speaker 1: Well that couldn't stand for a bad uncle too or

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Speaker 1: best that's for you to decide. But she also started

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Speaker 1: talking about how I was ruining this trip for everyone.

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Speaker 1: can forget about seeing them, especially not unsupervised. He told

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Speaker 1: that only stopped because brother in law came back with

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Speaker 1: asking why he won't defend her, insisting that I'm trying

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Speaker 1: help so he or I could cover the baby's face.

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Speaker 1: Mother in law and father in law argue that they

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have to ask permission. They're grown adults and can

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Speaker 1: do as they please in their own house.

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Speaker 3: Sang, well, as also grown adults, We're gonna do as

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Speaker 3: we please and leave your house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah what like this is just the dumbestic like that.

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Speaker 2: I hate that live. No, I'm a full grown a door.

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Speaker 2: I could do what I want. It's like, well, you're

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Speaker 2: not free of consequence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: You can do that. Great, here's the consequences. We don't

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Speaker 3: want to be here, that's stupid.

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Speaker 1: Husband reminds them that it is our baby, not theirs,

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Speaker 1: where they'll have to follow our rules. This went back

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Speaker 2: Let's giggle about it like we're in a click in

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Speaker 3: Rats, I really imagined when I saw throwing down, I

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Speaker 1: It. Don't do it, guys, that's terrible. That's like legal.

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Speaker 3: The best thing you can do is like get the phone,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Their luck retaining a bird lawyer literally above us

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Speaker 1: Make sure that actually, yeah, that would be perfect.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, perfect ten at ten. I give that guy tennant.

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Speaker 1: At ten Tenason, you made a right choice, O B.

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Speaker 2: Tennatten. That's coming from a bird lawyer.

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Speaker 1: You heard it first, herd her first, folks. So fast

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Speaker 1: Aw I picked a winner, y'all, truly, And that's the

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Speaker 3: My ex in laws demand to get our kids together,

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Speaker 3: but I don't wanna. I don't I twenty nine female

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Speaker 3: my ex brother in law, Patrick thirty mail, his ex

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Speaker 2: By the way, this.

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Speaker 3: Comes from user awkward release eighty eight sixty and if

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Speaker 3: r slash okay storytime subreddit. I'm Dakota, I'm Angie, and

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Speaker 3: I'm Keon, and we're here to give good advice goofily,

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Speaker 3: but we're not perfect. We don't have all the answers,

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Speaker 3: During the time of them being separated, she and I

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Speaker 3: She recently unblocked me and tried to add me on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: I simply deleted the request. No, she did not message

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Speaker 3: I've had the same number since middle school. None of

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Speaker 3: since we went to the high school together. Yeah, she's crowdsourcing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You're just not interested.

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Speaker 1: That's all she even needs to do if she really

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Speaker 3: It seems like she's still very into dramatizing things and

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Speaker 3: even though she's not someone that's a good influence to

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Speaker 2: Backstory on Patrick. Patrick got cheated on by Diane.

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Speaker 3: He had his friend move in with him, who ultimately

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Speaker 3: and he made the choice. A few months in, Patrick

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Speaker 2: I was working.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow, that's one way to put that. Patrick

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Speaker 2: I dealt with this for so long. A few weeks

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Speaker 3: He would spend the night over here a few times

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Speaker 3: My husband did laundry at my house maybe once a week.

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Speaker 3: As I paid for all the rent and the water used.

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Speaker 3: Patrick got upset that I didn't ask if he could

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Speaker 3: next time. He also lost his temper with my now

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Speaker 3: Patrick got enraged and yelled about not parenting his kid.

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Speaker 3: Everything went downhill from there, and I basically said he

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Speaker 3: They knew my schedule and I informed them to let

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Speaker 3: having their child call the affair partner dad ah, crime.

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00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 1: Yike, crime yikes, cime, I call that a crime.

438
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 2: You're criming.

439
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 3: She also got her own vehicle, which broke down and

440
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 3: she said she needed their car back. She had to

441
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,360
Speaker 3: refinance it in her own name and got back to it.

442
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: She eventually got engaged to a fair partner. She left

443
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,479
Speaker 3: the state with their child to visit family. When she returned,

444
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 3: a Fair partner had packed up and moved back in

445
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 3: with his parents, claiming he still loved her and wanted

446
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 3: to be with her, just not living together. She spiraled

447
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 3: and wanted to take the forever nap, but Patrick and

448
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 3: I helped her through this. She had basically nothing in

449
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 3: her fridge for a child to eat and lots of booze.

450
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 3: Eventually she moved on and moved houses too. After this,

451
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 3: co parenting between Patrick and Diane was toxic. After Patrick

452
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 3: moved out from my house and in with his girlfriend,

453
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 3: it was still a struggle. On one of the pickups,

454
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 3: Patrick refused to give the child to Diane as she

455
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 3: seemed under the influence and felt it was unsafe. Diane

456
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 3: proceeded to bang on his door in attempts to get

457
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 3: the child. She got arrested and they went to court

458
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 3: for parenting time. I can only assume they now split

459
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 3: custody in a court order and we have an update.

460
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: That was wild. A lot of stuff just happened.

461
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 3: I think personally, Yeah, that's a whole lot to have

462
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 3: dealt with and gone through with these two. Yeah, it

463
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 3: makes sense you don't want to hang out with the.

464
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 2: Kids, Yeah, because if.

465
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 3: The kids are hanging out, y'all are hanging out in

466
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: some capacity, right, Like, Yeah, that's a dynamic, that's a relationship.

467
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I feel like I had friends where it

468
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: was kind of like, can't really hang out with them

469
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 1: that much because like my parents didn't get along with

470
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: her parents or something like that. That's happened once or

471
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: something at least once, you know. But yeah, that's uh,

472
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 1: that's rough.

473
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: I posted a mini update yesterday stating that I received

474
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Speaker 3: a message from Diane's sister that she then greenshotted and

475
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 3: shared on Diane's post that I saw her message. I

476
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 3: have since blocked them both. Since then, it's been one

477
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: whole day now. Patrick has taken it upon himself to

478
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: post that he has been biting his tongue for too

479
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 3: long and that it's so messed up that he can't

480
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 3: have contact with his family and that his family needs

481
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: to respect the children's wishes to hang out if they

482
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 3: want to. He also claimed he made every attempt to

483
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 3: try and reach out before it got to this point.

484
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: I deleted both Patrick and his girlfriend off Snapchat over

485
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 3: a year ago as neither of them tried to make

486
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 3: contact with me. I still had them on Facebook and again,

487
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: I still have the same phone number for the first year.

488
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: After Patrick moved out and in with his girlfriend, I

489
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 3: messaged them on Snapchat about trying to plan a hangout

490
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: and about what hours I worked.

491
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: I told them to message me when it would work best.

492
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 3: Since Patrick has a lot of doctor appointments and his

493
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 3: girlfriend worked full time. Patrick got in a bad accident

494
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: that put him in the hospital unable to work over

495
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: two years ago, and he's still unemployed, claiming he's too disabled.

496
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: But there are plenty of jobs, even if it's just

497
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: minimum wage, that you can work from home to make money.

498
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: He has also since gone to a concert, dyed his hair,

499
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: gone out to places, and it just feels like a

500
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: lack of trying rather than truly being unable to work.

501
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: So his girlfriend basically.

502
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: Supports herself, him, his kid, her kid, their kid, and

503
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: a dog. Patrick's mom also lives with them and was

504
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 3: working for a while until she had an accident. I've

505
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 3: heard from his sister, my ex sister in law, who

506
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 3: I am still very much in contact with and my

507
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 3: kid spends the night with as she respects my boundaries.

508
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 3: She said that she has also done with his behavior,

509
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: as she has been for a while now. Anyway, after

510
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: the first year or so after they moved out, I

511
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: kept trying to plan something. We met once on Easter

512
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 3: because his girlfriend planned it, and the other time I

513
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: planned it, but it fell through because they had a

514
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: doctor appointment. I told them to let me know when

515
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 3: they could reschedule, and they didn't. His girlfriend would text

516
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: and guilt trip me on snapchat about how the kiddos

517
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: missed my child. Instead of asking to plan a hangout.

518
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 3: I would respond with let me know when available, and

519
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: then get ghosted. So what is the end game for them?

520
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: Right?

521
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: Like, what are they trying to do?

522
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: Is the endgame truly just complaining on social media and

523
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: turning people against Ope, it.

524
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: Must be they like, you know, think about putting their

525
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: kids in a playdate and then setting them off so

526
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: that they don't have to watch them, and then using like,

527
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: oh the kids want you want to see your kids

528
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 1: as an excuse. I mean, I'm making this up. But

529
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: then like immediately when they actually have to put things

530
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: together and like parent and remember that their kids are

531
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: there and that they had to take care of their kids,

532
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, shoot, actually I don't really want

533
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: to put that effort in and I'm gonna ignore that.

534
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: That text just.

535
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: Crazy If any of that made sense, it's just crazy

536
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: to do instead of just setting up the day you're

537
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: now publicly trying to beat.

538
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: Right, it's not a hard thing to do. Pickoday, that's all. Yeah.

539
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 3: I would either get ghosted or she would say to

540
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: reach out to Patrick, which I did and also would

541
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: not receive a response. I would have been happy to

542
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 3: let the kids hang out. They could have been hanging

543
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 3: out this whole time, but I'm not the only one

544
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 3: who needs to be putting effort into making this work

545
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: for the kids. I was tired of helping people and

546
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 3: reaching out when they only reached out for money or

547
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: when they needed something to benefit them. He still fails

548
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: to reach out and set up anything or put in

549
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: any effort, and he is always playing the victim. Both

550
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 3: Diane and Patrick will fight over text and do not

551
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: know how to have a conversation without it escalating. I

552
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: also know that if I were to message them, it

553
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 3: would just be a back and forth that would become

554
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: me saying this is exactly why I don't want contact,

555
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 3: and I don't doubt either one of them would take

556
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: those screenshots to the internet to blast further drama instead

557
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: of talking like mature adults. So again, instead of Patrick

558
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: reaching out to me in any civil adult manner, he

559
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 3: also just blasts drama on the internet, just like Diane.

560
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: I don't want the drama or conflicts involved with either

561
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 3: of them. Like I explained to my previous post, and

562
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: yet it's still here. So am I the ahole for

563
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: just blocking him and his girlfriend on Facebook also because

564
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 3: of this childish behavior instead of messaging Diane or Patrick

565
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: first and there's a second update. Oh no, I would

566
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: be afraid to even leave my kids in the same

567
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: place as these people.

568
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, Yeah, that's always so annoying whenever people talk

569
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: about your personal drama on the internet, Like what even

570
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: is that about? What are you going to get from that?

571
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: It's just blow.

572
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 3: Men, your kids are hanging out, and then like she

573
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: goes to your kid and it's just like hates Yeah,

574
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: your mom hates you.

575
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: She told me, she told me she hates you.

576
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: I wouldn't put a past her, and it's like yeah,

577
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: she'd be like, well you deserve that because of you

578
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: ignored me right right. It's just like, I don't know

579
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: what you're gonna do, I don't know what you're gonna say,

580
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: and I don't want to associate with you.

581
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: Bye bye.

582
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like we need to block these people

583
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: at this point.

584
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: Yes, welcome normalize the ability to just cut people out

585
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: of your life if they especially when they give you

586
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: great reasons to Yep, exactly. Hello, I have blocked both

587
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 3: Diane and Patrick on all forms of social media. My

588
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: friend was also invested in this drama and Diane's profile

589
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: is on public, so there's an update. Diane has continued

590
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: the conversation with her sister on her original Facebook post,

591
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: now stating that I hate her child and that she

592
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: doesn't have beef with me. She said her son is great,

593
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: but his parents are nothing but drama train recks. Every

594
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: time someone has Patrick or Diane involved in their life,

595
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 3: some sort of drama in chaos follows. Proof in the

596
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 3: pudding is that I tried for a year to get

597
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: the kids together with Patrick and got left on red.

598
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: I was blocked by Diane until a few weeks ago.

599
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 3: So even when you don't associate, they throw you into

600
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: their drama fest instead of having a mature conversation like

601
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: an adult. I don't have the mental energy in my

602
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: life to go back into chaos, especially not after the

603
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: seven and a half years of chaos with my own ex.

604
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: I am upset that. I mean, Okay, she blocks them all,

605
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: that's great, but she's still getting involved into drama. No

606
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: even after blocking, but they're not reaching out to her

607
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: right Just to clarify, that they're not still like trying

608
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: to find ways for each out. They're just using her name,

609
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: throwing her name around.

610
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just on the Facebook posts. I think maybe

611
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 3: one of them real, but it was in like a

612
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: weird way. Yeah, it's regardless. Yeah, don't have you just

613
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 3: do not have.

614
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: To just walk away people.

615
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what they used to be, the ex

616
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: brother in law's ex wife x whatever, and they have

617
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: a kid and it's like your ex nephew in whatever.

618
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: It's not it's not your responsibility or your sacred duty

619
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 3: in life to make sure that those two kids have playdates,

620
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: especially when their parents are actively throwing you under buses.

621
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly.

622
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: Yes, let's finish this story.

623
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: So here are the comments between Diane and her sister

624
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: on the post. Diane said she found it funny that

625
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: I blocked her and that I really don't want anything

626
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: to do with her kid. Diane's sister said I probably

627
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: blocked her too after this, and that it's ridiculous keeping

628
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: the cousins apart. She said it doesn't matter the family drama,

629
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: that the kids aren't a part of it, and that

630
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: they should be allowed to see each other. Diane then

631
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: said that she and I don't even have drama. She

632
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: doesn't involve herself with my ex's last name and family either,

633
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: so she doesn't understand why her son has to catch

634
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: that from me. Not only do they admit that there's

635
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 3: family drama, but they continue to create it. Then they

636
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: wonder why no one wants to be associated with them,

637
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: and that is the end of that story.

638
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: Sam. Here, we're gonna get back to the stories, but

639
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640
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: won't stand up for me, he says, his mom will

641
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: never change that.

642
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: Will you stand up?

643
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: I twenty six female and my mother in law forty

644
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: three female, were friends via church before I met my

645
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: now fiance twenty seven male. Mother in law let me

646
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: stay at their house when I left a toxic relationship

647
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: with my two children. Her son helped me move my

648
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: stuff out the next day. That is what initially attracted

649
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: me to him, that he didn't know me, but he

650
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: helped me pack and move me and my kids things

651
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: out of a bad situation. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 1: I'm Angie.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dakota.

656
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Speaker 1: Eh sorr. Wow, go ahead, No, I remember that you

657
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: were there. That's so cool. I totally remember that you

658
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: were there and you had to introduce yourself.

659
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: And I'm and I'm here. You know what, I don't exist.

660
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: I think it happens to me a lot.

661
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: You're not the first, not the last.

662
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: I think I'm key on.

663
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: I think I'm here. Oh. Ps, some love in the

664
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Speaker 1: chat for the producers they overlooked in these intros. Besides that,

665
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: we're just here to tell some gray stories. It has

666
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: hot goss. All right, we have not experienced a lot

667
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: of these situations, but if you have, let us know

668
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: in the comments what you have done, what you would

669
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: do in this situation. Let us know your input. But anyway,

670
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: oh peace says. I moved back to my home state,

671
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: where me and my fiance kept in contact. My now

672
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: fiance I moved back to his state about five years

673
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: ago for the kids to be closer to their dad,

674
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: not my now fiance. We have been together ever since

675
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: I moved back in February twenty twenty, and then the

676
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: VID hit. We moved in together in July of twenty twenty.

677
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: I then found out that I was pregnant in November

678
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. However, since we announced to his mom

679
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: that we were together, things definitely change. Do you seem

680
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: to support of the relationship, but that went out the

681
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: window when she tried to punt me out of my

682
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: now fiance's place in the middle of a fight me

683
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: and him were having. I was pregnant with his child

684
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: and had two kids. After I had my daughter, we

685
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: didn't trust anyone with her, so we sent her to

686
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: school with my mother in law. I ended up working

687
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: at the school for one school year and then left

688
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: due to conflict with another staff member that was favored

689
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: by the owner. I tried to report her for putting

690
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: her hands on a child and got messy. Anyways, after

691
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: I left, my mother in law had my daughter Sunday

692
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: night to Wednesday night for school, and she thinks that

693
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: she is her mother. She has a possessive hold on

694
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: my daughter, telling everyone that she raised her and taught

695
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: her all the things that she knows, that she's the

696
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: reason my daughter is so smart. Me and mother in

697
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: law's relationship has been strained. My dad passed away in

698
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one from the VID and my mother in

699
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: law didn't reach out to check on me one time,

700
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: but instead reached out to my mom. My mom, I

701
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: had plenty of people looking after her, including me, who

702
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: uprooted my entire life to take care of her during

703
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: this time, but I had nobody. She even went as

704
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: far as sharing my dad's gofund me saying, please pray

705
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: for my granddaughter's other grandmother during this time. No, please

706
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: excluding me?

707
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: What? Yeah, what, she's got major beef with you.

708
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like like why though.

709
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: And like yeah, your husband has to see that and go.

710
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 3: Hey, why are you like actively catfighting my Beyonce right wife?

711
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the mother of my child.

712
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, stop it.

713
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: That's something that I've held on to. About a month

714
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: and a half ago, I exploded on her. I let

715
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: everything out. Reason being my daughter had a ballet recital.

716
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: Mother in law jumped in front of me to rush

717
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: her in and off the stage and took away a

718
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: moment that I could have had with my child after

719
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: receiving her medal. Then she posted a thank you tagging

720
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: everyone who came and how her and her husband are

721
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: so happy that so many people were there for my child.

722
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: During the blow up, I told her how she doesn't

723
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: let me be my child's mother when she's around. How

724
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: she excludes my other two kids because they're not biological

725
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: to her, et cetera. We had to sit down conversation.

726
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: She said hurtful things that can't be unsaid, and I

727
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: realized that my fiance gets that from his mother, saying

728
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: things when you're mad to cut deep when you're not

729
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: showing emotion about anything else, they know what to say

730
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: to open those wounds. Anyways, my daughter is home now

731
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: full time. We ended the talk on good terms, and

732
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: I explained that I wanted a better relationship and to

733
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: be closer to her. So I started doing all the

734
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: things that she said to make us closer. I felt

735
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: good about it. Now. We had a family trip planned

736
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: out of state. I even told my fiance on the

737
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: way there that I think this trip will solidify our relationship.

738
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: Man was I wrong? Oh oh oh. She ignored me

739
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: and my fiance the entire trip. She kept saying that

740
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: she wished her husband's son would have been her son.

741
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: She didn't speak to either of us or take pictures

742
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: with us unless it was a family picture. She didn't

743
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: take any pictures with my other two kids because her

744
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: quote real grandkids were there. She begged me to ask

745
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: my kid's dad to take them, just for them to

746
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: be ignored and left out. The only one who got

747
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: attention was her husband's grandchildren and my child who's biological

748
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: to her. That won't happen again. When she did interact

749
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: with me, she treated me like trash and spoke to

750
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: me like trash. We rented a boat to her and

751
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: went snorkeling. I can't swim, which I told everyone in

752
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: the group chat prior to getting to the boat. The

753
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: boat took us to the middle of the ocean to snorkel.

754
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: My brother in law's girlfriend was there and she can't

755
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: swim either, So we decided we'd sit with the younger

756
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: kids and when our men came back, we'd go together.

757
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: I got in first with the life ring thing.

758
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: Why wait, I'm sorry, Why would the two people who

759
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: can't swim go together.

760
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

761
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: I think if you can't swim, don't go into the

762
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: ocean and snorkel.

763
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, probably, I guess if you ever liked it, yah, fine.

764
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I guess like they're waiting.

765
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: They're waiting all the boat, like with the younger kids.

766
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I guess when the men came back,

767
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: they could switch off and hopefully there'd be someone in

768
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: the water that could swim in this situation. Yeah, doesn't

769
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: need to be everyone that could swim, but someone. So

770
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: I got in first with the life ring thing clips

771
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: around your waist. I wanted an actual life jacket because

772
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: I've never used one of these. But I get in

773
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: the water and this life wait, this life ring waste

774
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: thing starts turning me in the water like a rotesserie chicken.

775
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: That's funny. They do tend to.

776
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: Do that, a funny example. Why who did this?

777
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 3: Why who's getting you in the ocean with a life

778
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: ring instead of just a life jacket?

779
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Right. I tried grabbing onto my father in law, but

780
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: he pushes me away. My mother in law laughs at

781
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: me and says, look at this girl. I tried grabbing

782
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: on to someone, but nobody helped me. I swallowed and

783
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: inhaled so much water. I'm already petrified of water, and

784
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the only one who didn't

785
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: go because then I'd be the sour one, something that

786
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: my mother in law could use against me again. So

787
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: my brother in law's girlfriend tried going back up the steps.

788
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: She never touched a foot in the water, and the

789
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: entire family swam straight over to help her get in

790
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: the water and make her comfortable. I got out of

791
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: the water, went to my fiance, covered my face with

792
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: a towel, and baled my eyes out. He was pissed. However,

793
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: he never ever says anything to his mom unless she

794
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: says something bad about him directly to him. He doesn't

795
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: stand up for me ever, because quote it won't change

796
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: who she is or how she treats me, But he

797
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: has no problem standing up to her if it's about him.

798
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: He doesn't care about how his mom treats me and

799
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: always flips it to say something about how my mom

800
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: is instead instead of focusing on the subject at hand.

801
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: He is absolutely like his mother in every way. He

802
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: has no problem with her pretending to be my child's

803
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: mom and the bad things that she says about me

804
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: as a mother, but never blames her son both. Situation

805
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: was my last straw. I almost drowned. This isn't the

806
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: only thing that happened on the trip or over the

807
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: five years, but I'm at my wits end over it all.

808
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: I want to go completely contact. Fiance says he doesn't

809
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: want to keep the kids from her, but I don't

810
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: feel comfortable sending any of my kids to her. So

811
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: what do I do? And there are some comments, what

812
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: do you think that OPI should do? Dakota.

813
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm sorry, but if my fiance is like that

814
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: mom in every way, yeah, I don't like that.

815
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't like that.

816
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 3: At first, I was like, you just got a mother

817
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: in law problem, but it sounds like you got a

818
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: husband problem.

819
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: Sounds like it. She's saying that stuff about like the

820
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: husband is just like it, but then just brushing right

821
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: past it and being like, Okay, but how do I

822
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: fix my problem of the mother in law? And it's like, well,

823
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean, sure you can fix that, or you can

824
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: try to fix that, But I think a big, big

825
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: thing here is the fact that your fiance is is

826
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: this way.

827
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 3: If he can stick up, if he can argue with

828
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: his mom about himself, but he can't stick up for you. Yeah,

829
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: I mean it just implies that he like tacitly agrees

830
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: with her.

831
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

832
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: So I think this is what you should do.

833
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: I think you tell him you're just like your mom,

834
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: And I cannot be married to someone who is just

835
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: like your mom, and if he.

836
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: Goes, you know, okay, it's done. It's a done deal.

837
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: It's over.

838
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: I mean, when you're saying stuff just to cut deep

839
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 3: around by yourself, that is not husband material name Now.

840
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you fix your fiance problem, your

841
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: mother in law problem will be pretty much fixed too,

842
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: or at least a good chunk of it will be.

843
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: But we do have some comments. Comment number one says,

844
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: you have a fiance problem that contributes to the mother

845
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: in law behavior. Break away from them, all of them.

846
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Common number two says, oh oh, pie, I'm so sorry

847
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: you're dealing with this. Mother in laws can be the

848
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: worst at times. Personally, I wouldn't let my child go

849
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: to Grandma's anymore if she can't respect you to your face.

850
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: I'd be terrified to know what is said and done

851
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: when you aren't around. Try taking a weekend with just

852
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: you and your kids, turn the communicators off and let

853
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: everyone think about the situation. Maybe your fiance will feel

854
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: differently if he understands a woman will do everything she

855
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: has to do to keep her kids safe. And that's

856
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: the end of this story.

857
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 4: My ex refuse to have our daughter's service dog around,

858
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: but I won't budge well she needs that what My

859
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: ex divorced nine years ago and I have a fourteen

860
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 4: year old daughter who sees them two to three weekends

861
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: a month, depending on their work schedule. We have no

862
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 4: official custody or visitation agreement in place. Three months ago,

863
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: my ex moved their girlfriend in after dating for six weeks.

864
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 4: He says he's too old to do the silly dating

865
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 4: thing and has decided to move on full throttle with her. Okay, fine,

866
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 4: his life. I met her three times during drop offs

867
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: and she seemed fine. I remarried three years ago and

868
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 4: we have all co parented very well.

869
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: By the way, this.

870
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: Comes from psychology front six four nine four and if

871
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: you want to spend your own stories, go to the

872
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: r slash Okay, storytime, separate it. I'm Sophia and I'm Angie.

873
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: And OP says, now on to the issue.

874
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 4: My daughter has a chronic disease and an extensively trained

875
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: service dog. Because of this, she's a German Shepherd, if

876
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: that makes any difference. We got her approximately eight months ago.

877
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: She was nearly twenty k day. Wow.

878
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: I didn't think.

879
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: About how expensive service dogs much yeah, apparently they are.

880
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: So it took a lot of financial finagling and research

881
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: for my ex spouse and I to both find and

882
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 4: purchase her. She has been a godsend. Before Sherry came along,

883
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 4: my daughter had wicked anxiety, wicked anxiety about going anywhere,

884
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 4: especially school or out in public. She is, of course medicated,

885
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: but has breakthrough episodes, which her empty attributes to puberty.

886
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: She is closely monitored, but she still has them. Before Sherry,

887
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: she would refuse to go anywhere for days at a time,

888
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: and we ended up having a tutor come in so

889
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: that she could keep up with schoolwork. I refuse to

890
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 4: complete the homeschooler because I feel that if I did,

891
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 4: she would withdraw from society completely. Enter Sherry, who has

892
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: made a huge difference in her life. She goes everywhere

893
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 4: with her, is a star at my daughter's high school,

894
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: and my daughter has actually become almost extroverted. She has

895
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: even joined theater club and is currently attending a summer workshop.

896
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 4: She says, just knowing that Cherry is with her lessens

897
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: her anxiety, as now she knows when something is going

898
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 4: to happen, and that coming to with Sherry curled up

899
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 4: next to her, comforts her and makes her know that

900
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: she's safe during them. Now the issue. Guess what girlfriend's

901
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: name is? You guessed it?

902
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, what Sherry? That's what I'm going. Oh yeah, okay,

903
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: that's an issue.

904
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: But okay, First, she demanded we change the dog's name.

905
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: No.

906
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 4: I laughed and said that was not an option. Again,

907
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: highly trained dog. You don't just go around changing an

908
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: animal's name anyway, and she's almost three years old. I

909
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: told girlfriend if she didn't like sharing her name with

910
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: a dog, she could change hers. That didn't go over well. Yesterday,

911
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 4: my daughter came home crying, saying girlfriend is insisting that

912
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: when daughter visits, Sherry should remain at home. I said,

913
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: absolutely not. Daughter didn't have the dog for years, and

914
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: she was okay, she'll be okay now I know what

915
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: to do. You do not know what to do. Yeah,

916
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: you really don't know what you did to do. You

917
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: spent twenty thousand dollars.

918
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: On this dog. Yeah, that wasn't for nothing. That wasn't

919
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: because she's just wants a buddy.

920
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 4: I said that his knowing what to do wasn't the issue.

921
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: I said that our daughter was not okay before. She

922
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: was anxious borderline, a gooraphobic and miserable. He called me

923
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: a drama queen and said if she brings Sherry with her,

924
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 4: she can't come. I said, fine, she won't be visiting.

925
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 4: He said I was guilty of parental alienation and would

926
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: take me to court if necessary. I said, bring it on.

927
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 4: My daughter is torn. She doesn't want to be without Sherry,

928
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 4: but she also wants to visit her dad. So am

929
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: I the ale and there are.

930
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: Some relevant comments. No, yeah, you literally.

931
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: Didn't say she's never got to see you again. I'm

932
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: gonna take full custody.

933
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: Right, she just said she can't go anywhere without her

934
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: service dog. You're gonna win whatever, like legal battle, Like

935
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: he's not being a good parent. He doesn't even have

936
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: full custody anywhere, or like a half custody right. What

937
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: was it something two to three weekends a month. Okay, well,

938
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: I guess that's pretty solid. They don't have an official

939
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: custody agreement. I see, Well, what a great way to

940
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: get no custody, my friend. Yeah, all because they have

941
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: the same name. That's it. If I had the same

942
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: name as a dog, I'd be honored.

943
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, like me and that dog Bestie's Bessy Secret. Afternoon

944
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 4: six for five says, not the a hole. Would your

945
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: ex and sist that your daughter leave a prosthetic limit

946
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: home if his girlfriend didn't like it? I can't imagine

947
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: any decent family court judge not telling this guy to

948
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 4: get his effing priority straight. And yes, I have heard

949
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 4: a family court judge tell someone this ironically because he

950
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: prioritized his dogs over his kids. Op says that the

951
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: punter is that my ex is actually allergic to dogs.

952
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 4: He's been getting shots and taking anistamines so that he

953
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 4: can deal with Cherry. And when a neurologist suggested looking

954
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: into a service dog, he didn't blink. But girlfriend has

955
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 4: to be coddled because of her name. Make it make sense?

956
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 4: Jano five oh seven says, not the ale and let

957
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: the judge rake him over the coals in court. Sherry

958
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: isn't a dog, She's a medical device. Would dad be

959
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 4: allowed to leave an insulin pump or asthma and hayler

960
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 4: at home because he knows what to do? No, he

961
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: would not escape says exactly. Frame it like that and

962
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 4: see what he says. Human Sherry can get a nickname

963
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: or something. Whirt thirteen eighty four says, I think she

964
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 4: should just go by human Sherry, and if she doesn't

965
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 4: like it, then I'm sure op and her daughter can

966
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: come up with some ideas. Op says, well, since this

967
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: became an issue, I really focused on how often the

968
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: actual name Sherry was said in a day.

969
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking of.

970
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like I don't like when I talk

971
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 4: to my dog, I'm like, oh no, Papa, yeah, or

972
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 4: like I call her, I have so many different I

973
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 4: call her pupper nickel.

974
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy, so many names for Ada that aren't

975
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: her name. Call human Sherry, Popper nicol yeah. Easy.

976
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: I mean my daughter will say come on girl, or

977
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: my pushy's baby and things like that instead of her name.

978
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 4: So I really think girlfriend is just making a thing

979
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: out of nothing to stir the pot Naita Gee says,

980
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: not the a hole. If I were you, I'd tell

981
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 4: him he either does the visits at his house or

982
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: not at all. He's treating his own daughter like she's

983
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 4: an inconvenience. He's choosing to get his wiener wet over

984
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 4: being a good dad. Opie says, I don't want my

985
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 4: daughter or Sherry at his house with girlfriend there. I

986
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 4: don't trust her not to do something because she's furious

987
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: about this post. My ex sister in law kindly shared

988
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: it with her the darling thanks sister in law, and

989
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: my daughter says she was already snarky to them before

990
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: all this happened, and there is an update.

991
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: But do you have any thoughts? It's just like there

992
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: must be something else going on, yeah, or just a

993
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: bad girlfriend in general.

994
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 4: I think that she's probably trying to insert some dominance

995
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: because she sees that the ex at least has to,

996
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: you know, to some measure, has to have relationship with ope,

997
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 4: just for their daughter, right, So I feel like hum

998
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: and Cherry is trying to say like I'm the new

999
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: wife here or the new girlfriend, you know yeah, and.

1000
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: It's like, well you're not the mom, yeah, so and

1001
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: you'll never will be who fly update with some clarifications.

1002
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: So I sent the link to this post to my

1003
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: ex and he responded by calling my daughter and apologizing. Okay, okay,

1004
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: I guess he realized that all the comments calling him

1005
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: an ahole, you know, we're probably right he's still being

1006
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: an ale as he's saying that they will do visits

1007
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: at his mom's house a couple of streets away from him,

1008
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: as it still makes girlfriend upset hearing her name referring

1009
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: to a dog.

1010
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 4: Whatever, So for now this is what they've worked out.

1011
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 4: He's happy, daughter is happy. She told me she really

1012
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 4: doesn't like girlfriend, but has been polite and Cherry stays

1013
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: where she belongs with daughter. One thing I would like

1014
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 4: to point out, girlfriend's name is spelled Cherie with a

1015
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 4: little accent over the last e and pronounced Charie, whereas

1016
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 4: our girl is plain old Sherry like Barry. So I

1017
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: think this was just girlfriends stirring the pot. Thank you

1018
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: all for helping me show X where his priority should be.

1019
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: I originally put her diagnosis and the purpose of Sherry

1020
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: in the post, but it was flagged and removed for

1021
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 4: seeking medical She has a disorder that starts with E

1022
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 4: and ends with why epilepsy flagged flagged. Sherry is a

1023
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: seizure response dog that is insane. That is insane? Do

1024
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 4: yeah that she can't have her seizure response dog with her? Yeah,

1025
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 4: because his girlfriend is upset about the name. Thing Yeah,

1026
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 4: The fact that she lessens my daughter's anxiety about not

1027
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 4: knowing when a seizure is coming on and having one

1028
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: in public is a huge bonus, but not the main

1029
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 4: purpose of Sherry's training. For the idiot who told me

1030
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: Sherry couldn't be an actual service animal because real ones

1031
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 4: don't cost money.

1032
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: Um No.

1033
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 4: She went through a year and a half of training

1034
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: and we could only afford her because my parents put

1035
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: a second mortgage on their house, and my ex current

1036
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 4: spouse and I all worked a second job until we

1037
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: had enough. We are not wealthy. I'm CNA, my husband

1038
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 4: is a mechanic, and my ex manages a restaurant. We

1039
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 4: looked into organizations that subsidize the cost of a service animal,

1040
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: but the waiting list were three or more and we

1041
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: needed a dog. Now, yeah, I mean that's probably you

1042
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: just have to wait a really long time. Yeah one,

1043
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: that's not twenty thousand dollars.

1044
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: Sure, but he like the line of real ones don't

1045
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: cost any money. Regular dogs cost money. So yeah, something that.

1046
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 4: Well, it's probably like you can get a government subsidized

1047
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 4: by like insurance or something that makes sense.

1048
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: But but yeah, still not the only real Yeah, that's crazy.

1049
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 4: We had to drive halfway across the country to pick

1050
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: her up. Although saying she is a medical device, are

1051
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 4: one hundred percent spot on for now. My daughter is

1052
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: going to spend my exes weekends with his mother, who

1053
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 4: loves Sherry as much as we do, and he's going

1054
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 4: to hang out with her there. He knows he's leffed up.

1055
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 4: His mother and both of his sisters have all torn

1056
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 4: him new ones, but it takes some time to admit

1057
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 4: when he's wrong because he's a stubborn sob. This post

1058
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: has opened his eyes, but it also ticked him off

1059
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 4: to no end.

1060
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: Being called out. Older daughter says that sister in law

1061
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: went over and told girlfriend off but didn't provide details.

1062
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: And I'm trying really hard to be adult and not

1063
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: pump her for info. I was saying he's going to

1064
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: be baby trapped. He had to afsect me, thank goodness.

1065
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: But there are some more relevant comments. Yeah uh any

1066
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: final thoughts. Glad that no baby trapping is no baby

1067
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: trapping available? Yeah? I think, you know, maybe things won't

1068
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: end up working out with this girlfriend in general, because

1069
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: they did move very fast.

1070
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean after three weeks she moved in is crazy.

1071
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like it's very common in co parenting

1072
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: situations that like new relationships aren't really introduced for a

1073
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: while until it's like yes, and if they're moving in

1074
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: is already concerning. Yeah, because if they're moving in, they

1075
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: could say that it's like serious, but like it doesn't

1076
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: say if that if they moved in that fast, but whatever.

1077
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: But there are some more relevant comments. Wakeful dreamer says,

1078
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: So daughter and dad only see each other at grandma's

1079
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: house now, and this is expected to go on for

1080
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: how long daughter will always have a medical condition? Is

1081
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 4: this an acknowledgment that the girlfriend is just short term

1082
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 4: thing or a naive belief that one's daughter and one's

1083
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 4: girlfriend can be mutually exclusive and separate parts of one's life.

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00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 4: Op says, I think he sees this as a compromise

1085
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 4: to get his girlfriend.

1086
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: Off his back.

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Speaker 4: My daughter loves staying with her grandma and at this

1088
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 4: point wants nothing to do with girlfriend, So she's very

1089
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: happy with the arrangement. And if I know my ex

1090
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: mother in law, she's going to make him squirm every time.

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Speaker 1: He's over there.

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00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: Evil laugh appropriate mine says, I am baffled by the

1093
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: childish behavior of the girlfriend. It's not like you purposely

1094
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 4: name the dog with the same name. If I'm not mistaken,

1095
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: the dog came to you with that name, not that

1096
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: it matters. I hate to say my opinion or to

1097
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 4: sound harsh, but your ex needs to prioritize his daughter.

1098
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: And although I am there in the same house, I

1099
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 4: can just imagine the manipulation of the girlfriend that goes

1100
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: on in that house the moment a new partner starts

1101
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 4: to try and establish dominance or some sense of hierarchy.

1102
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 4: I think your relationship is going to suffer. OHPI says,

1103
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: she did come with that name and we were advised

1104
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: not to change it by the trainer.

1105
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: X knows this.

1106
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 4: X also knows that the trainer stated that Sherry should

1107
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 4: not go extended periods or even frequent short periods away

1108
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 4: from daughter as it will not only cause her anxiety

1109
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 4: since my daughter is her reason to be in their words,

1110
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: as well as possibly affecting her training. He's just currently

1111
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 4: an idiot in the midst of a mid late life crisis.

1112
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 4: MISA seven, two thousand and six says. Also, what the

1113
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 4: a hole doesn't understand is that stress is a major

1114
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 4: trigger for her illness. Not having her there could set

1115
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 4: off episodes. And what is he going to do if

1116
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 4: he steps out for something? Does this girlfriend know what

1117
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: to do if she has an episode, and you be

1118
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: sure she would even help the daughter if she had one,

1119
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: seeing as there is animosity between them over her support

1120
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 4: animal's name. Ohpi says when she first moved in, my

1121
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: ex tried to show her how to use my daughter's

1122
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 4: rescue med which is in a nasal prey form, and

1123
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 4: she was like, oh, I don't need to learn your

1124
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 4: older sister will have to do it. This I didn't

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00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: find out until my daughter told me she didn't want

1126
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 4: the dog there. Girlfriend is racking up the strikes. Discordion

1127
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 4: Fluf says, not the a hole as someone who lost

1128
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 4: my little brother to a grandmouse seizure. Anything that can

1129
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: help reduce cure takes precedence over someone's fragile ego. My

1130
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: brother was epileptic since he was a kid. As a teenager,

1131
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: he was so used to them that he decided they

1132
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 4: weren't a big deal and definitely not worth doing all

1133
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 4: the boring things that helped reduce them. To be fair,

1134
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 4: we did not really know they could be fatal either.

1135
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 4: The doctors never mentioned it and always focused on ensuring

1136
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 4: he didn't hurt himself during the seizures. But he passed

1137
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 4: in bed from a big seizure that might have been

1138
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 4: preventable before he was even twenty years old. So yeah,

1139
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 4: new girlfriend and dad are terribly selfish people. Goodness, oh,

1140
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: he says, I'm so so sorry for your loss. Teens

1141
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 4: think they're indestructible. Sadly, this happening to daughter is one

1142
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 4: of our greatest fears. And daughter even slept with her

1143
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 4: sister for years her wish, not us pushing it, because

1144
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 4: she was afraid to. This is another way Sherry has

1145
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 4: given her back her freedom and peace of mind. My

1146
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 4: daughter sleeps well knowing Sherry will bark and alert us

1147
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: during the night for an emergency. How much younger is

1148
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: human Cherry than her ex For those wondering about fifteen years,

1149
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 4: I'd say, and that's the end of that story.

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Speaker 1: I refuse to have my grandmother at my wedding. Now

1155
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: everyone's against me. Everyone hates me. I thirty female. I'm

1156
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: getting married in June seventh. I have sent out the

1157
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: invitation and my mother's bio Mom seventy female found out

1158
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: that she was not invited to my wedding, which caused

1159
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: some extended family members to lose their minds. By the way,

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00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,920
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00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,520
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Speaker 1: to the hours slash Okay, Storytime Supreddit and I'm Angie,

1163
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, so Opie says. For some background, my mom's

1164
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: fifty three female bio mom, Susan, was still in high

1165
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: school when she had her Her mother tried to convince

1166
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: her to give up my mom for adoption, but she refused.

1167
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: When my mom was two, she basically dumped my mom

1168
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: on her mother and took off. She didn't leave a

1169
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: note or anything, just kind of took off with my

1170
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: mom's bio dad and didn't look back. I consider my

1171
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: bio great grandma to be my grandma, as my mom

1172
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: views her her mother. When my mom was fifteen, her

1173
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: bioparents showed back up one day and apparently tried to

1174
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: act like nothing ever happened. With two more kids, my

1175
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: mom's biosister was fourteen and her brother was six. My

1176
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: mom bonded with her biosister as more cousins and siblings,

1177
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: but my mom has never been close with the bio brother.

1178
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: My mom's best friend, who was around for all of this,

1179
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: said that this was a very hard time for her anyway,

1180
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: When my aunt turned eighteen, she stopped talking to Susan

1181
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: and her brother and moved in with my grandma. At

1182
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: both my mom and aunt's weddings, my grandma was treated

1183
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: as the mother of the bride, and my grandpa gave

1184
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: them both away instead of their biodad. Now, I don't

1185
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: like Susan, not only because of the way that she

1186
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: treats my mom and my aunt, but also for the

1187
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: way that she treats me, my siblings, and my cousins.

1188
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: All of us have always called Susan by her first name,

1189
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: and very few people know that she's actually my mom's

1190
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: bio mom, as most people thought that my mom was

1191
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: just a late in life baby of my grandparents. My

1192
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: fiance thirty three mail and I sent our wedding invitation

1193
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: out months ago, and Susan never said anything. She didn't

1194
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: reach out or attend to any of the previous parties

1195
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: like the engagement party, bridal shower, not that she would

1196
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: have been invited even if she had expressed an interest.

1197
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: About a week ago. Somehow it became a more commonly

1198
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: known who Susan is biologically to my mother. We didn't

1199
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: go around advertising it, but it wasn't a secret either,

1200
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: so I didn't really think about it. However, Susan called

1201
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: me out of the blue. I didn't know she even

1202
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: knew my phone number, and I didn't recognize hers, and

1203
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: she started screaming over the phone about how as her

1204
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: only living grandchild, she deserves to be a part of

1205
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: the wedding party. What part of the wedding party too?

1206
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: She wants to be a bridesmaid. I want to be

1207
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: a bridesmaid? What I deserve it. It took me a

1208
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: minute to figure out that I was talking to Susan.

1209
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: I made it clear to her that it would not

1210
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: be happening in a polite manner, simply reminding her that

1211
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: she has never expressed an interest in acting like my

1212
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: grandmother before now, and that we hardly know each other.

1213
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: And she didn't like that answer, apparently, and started yelling

1214
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: at me more and calling my mom and my aunt

1215
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: terrible names for choosing my grandma parents to act as

1216
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: parents with the bride in their wedding. I told her

1217
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: calmly that insulting my mom was not going to get

1218
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: her an invitation and that I had no control over

1219
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: events that happened thirty years ago. I also told her

1220
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: that she's had plenty of opportunities to repair her relationships

1221
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: with my aunt and my mom and build relationships with me,

1222
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: my siblings, and my cousins that she never used. She

1223
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: continued to yell over the phone, so I just hung

1224
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: up the phone and blocked the number. I am slightly

1225
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: worried that she's going to try to crash my wedding,

1226
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: as she's made scenes before, like at my cousin's graduation. However,

1227
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: we already hired security because my fiance has a cousin

1228
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: that likes to cause trouble. My Mom and I both

1229
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: think that her sudden desire to be involved in our

1230
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: lives has been encouraged by her judge church friends as

1231
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: a way to keep up appearances, and not an actual

1232
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: desire to be part of our family. However, Susan has

1233
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: reached out to her younger siblings, my mom's adoptive siblings,

1234
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: who have been trying to pressure my mom and me

1235
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: into inviting her and calling me an a hole. My

1236
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: mom's adopted brother sixty mail keeps insisting that we need

1237
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: to do this just to keep the piece, because he

1238
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: doesn't want to have to choose between his sisters, using

1239
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: a tone to imply that he would choose Susan. My

1240
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: fiance's mother has been trying to convince him since she

1241
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: found out. My mom and fiance have made it clear

1242
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: that the decision is up to me, whether other people

1243
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: like it or not. Everyone I talk to other than

1244
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: my parents' siblings on her kids and my fiance say

1245
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: that I'm being a stubborn, petty a hole for not

1246
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: inviting her. Even my best friend thinks that I should

1247
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: invite her because she's reaching out, trying to be involved

1248
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: and asked to be included. If I do cave and

1249
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: invite her to keep the peace, she definitely will not

1250
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: be part of the wedding party. So should I just

1251
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: invite her anyway? I'm just wondering, Am I the a

1252
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: hole for not inviting her or continuing to not invite her?

1253
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: And there is an update? But want to invite her? Yeah?

1254
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: You know the a hole. You just don't want her there.

1255
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: You don't know who she is, honestly, you really don't.

1256
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: She's a stranger. Because like if if the friend is

1257
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: going off of the idea of like, well, if you're

1258
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: complaining and if you you don't like that she hasn't

1259
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: made efforts before, but now she is, then maybe you

1260
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: should be open to that. It's like, well, I think

1261
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: I think it's too little, too late. I don't want

1262
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: her to make an effort anymore. Yeah, not in this

1263
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: because that's a big step jumping to like Okay, yeah,

1264
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: be at my wedding. Yeah, like we could have started

1265
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: with small efforts instead of like apparently in my bridal party. Yeah,

1266
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: it's like, do you even know, like what my job is.

1267
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do small talk at my own wedding.

1268
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Maybe even know what my middle name is? Honestly, you

1269
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: know how old I am? I was at the wedding

1270
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, so are you in school? Literally? Do

1271
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: you like your classes? That's what's gonna happen. But we

1272
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: do have an update. I just wanted to give a

1273
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 1: small update and thank everyone for their opinions. I really

1274
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to invite her unless I got overwhelming responses

1275
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: telling me to. Anyway, I had a chat with my

1276
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: aunt Margo, my mom's biosister, and my mom today after

1277
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: Mother's Day brunch. I wanted to tell them both that

1278
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: I decided not to let Susan come to my wedding,

1279
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: and they were both relieved. I asked if it was

1280
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: possible that Susan had reached out before or I was

1281
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: missing information somewhere. That's when I got the full story. Oh, so, firstly,

1282
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: I'd like to apologize my mom was not too when

1283
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: Susan took off the first time. I didn't realize that

1284
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: she did it more than once. I really only knew

1285
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: the basics of what happened, not the whole story. So apparently,

1286
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: the first time Susan took off, my mom was only

1287
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: four months old. My grandma told her that she needed

1288
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: to step up as a parent because she already had

1289
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: two seven year olds, my uncle Bobby and aunt Carol,

1290
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: and a five year old my uncle Stuart. Susan took

1291
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: off only hours after the fight. My grandparents were in

1292
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: their late forties and already had their gave up trying

1293
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: babies and a We didn't think it would happen after

1294
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: we had so much trouble last time baby. They had

1295
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: considered giving my mom up for adoption, but needed Susan

1296
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: to sign paperwork, and my aunt and uncles were already

1297
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: attached to her. That's when my grandma found out that

1298
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: when she and my grandpa were working, Susan was leaving

1299
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: an infant with three children under the age of eight.

1300
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh my goodness to bail. Yeah yeah. Anyways,

1301
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: no one heard from Susan until just after my mom's

1302
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: second birthday with my ten week old aunt Margo. Okay.

1303
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: She then said that she started talking about my grandparents

1304
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: raising Margo too, because they were already raising one of

1305
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: her kids, so what's another. My grandpa told her that

1306
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: if she left Margo, they would call the police and

1307
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: give her away. At some point, my grandparents had the

1308
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: parental rights of my mom signed over to them and

1309
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: they became her legal parents. Susan tried multiple times to

1310
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: leave Margo just for a couple hours, but my grandparents

1311
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: always found a way to make sure everyone would be unavailable.

1312
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: So one morning, my grandma opened her front door and

1313
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: found baby Margo on the step. It took the police

1314
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: almost six days to find Susan and Jerry, my mom

1315
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: and Margo's biofather. They were basically given a warning and

1316
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: Margo was returned to their care. They took off again,

1317
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: this time with Margot. This was the time that I

1318
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: knew about. That's it. No one heard from Susan or

1319
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: Jerry for years. During this time, it was really bad

1320
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: for my aunt. Susan and Jerry were physically and verbally

1321
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: harmful towards my aunt and would leave for days at

1322
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: a time, leaving her younger brother JJ, from the time

1323
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 1: she was eight. When she was ten, a neighbor took

1324
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: Margot and JJ in and it took Susan and Jerry

1325
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: almost two months to notice that they were gone. Oh

1326
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: my god, that's so concerning. That has got a mess

1327
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: with these kids. Yeah, absolutely gosh. When they did, Jerry

1328
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: got into a huge fight with the neighbor in front

1329
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: of Margo. She remembers Jerry telling the old woman that

1330
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: she could keep this witch of a daughter, but he

1331
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't let her kidnap his boy. Oh my gosh, it's

1332
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: ten and eight year old. That's terrible. And the neighbors

1333
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: have kind of had to take over. Yeah, they've been

1334
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: taking care of these kids. JJ went back, but Margo

1335
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: lived with the woman for almost four more years. Wow.

1336
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: Just before Margot turned fourteen, the neighbor passed away and

1337
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: Margot had to go back Susan and Jerry, Oh my gosh,

1338
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: oh Margot, well as.

1339
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 4: The grandparents, I mean, I guess like they can't really,

1340
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 4: you know, take custody because the.

1341
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: Mom's still in the picture. But what I have to

1342
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: sign off and they might not have even known about

1343
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: all that too. Yeah, Oh my gosh. She lived with

1344
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,959
Speaker 1: them for a couple of months in a city about

1345
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: two hours from here. This is when they came back

1346
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: into my mom's life. So that Christmas, when my mom

1347
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: was fifteen, almost sixteen, and Margot was fourteen and one

1348
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: month super important. That one month they showed up at

1349
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: my grandparents' house like they never left. She brought Christmas

1350
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: presents for JJ, Carol, Bobby, Stuart and both of my grandparents.

1351
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: They said that Margot was being punished and didn't deserve anything,

1352
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: and they said that they didn't know my mom was

1353
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: still there in front of everyone. Oh, you don't know

1354
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: anything about your kids, and you guys are terrible people. Yeah, truly.

1355
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 4: Going back to the press day of Op's question, is

1356
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 4: it okay to not invite this woman? Yeah, okay, terrible,

1357
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 4: She's incredibly neglectful, of her kids.

1358
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: Gosh, yeah, oh I would not.

1359
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 4: I mean if I were your mom or uh wait, I'm.

1360
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: Confused, So Opie is referring to the grandparents.

1361
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 4: Oh right, yes, sorry sorry, yes, yes, if I because

1362
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 4: your mom, so Sharon is technically your grandandma, but her

1363
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 4: great grandparents.

1364
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Susan is kind of just like in there.

1365
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 4: Yes, if I were your mom, I wouldn't want to

1366
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 4: be at this wedding where no lady was.

1367
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that would be a very

1368
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: considerate thing to do for everyone else in your family

1369
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: was deeply traumatized by this. Yes, yes, there was another

1370
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: fight between my grandparents and Susan and Jerry. Apparently my

1371
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: grandpa and Jerry got in a physical fight. Margot remembers this,

1372
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: my mom does not. During the next four years, Margo

1373
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: never told my grandparents about because she was worried that

1374
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: they wouldn't care because they already threw her away once.

1375
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, dude, as the grandparents, I can't imagine

1376
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: like giving away that's other child. Yeah, because they did it.

1377
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 4: They I know, I know, it's a really difficult decision

1378
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 4: to be like I we just don't have the means

1379
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: to take care of this other kid.

1380
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, but I think that isn't even necessarily

1381
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: the situation. The next line is that's what they told

1382
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: her happened when she dumped her on her doorstep and

1383
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: tried to get her away from them, So it's really

1384
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: not what Yeah, they really were just like, hey, her

1385
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: parents literally just abandoned her. Let's find the parents, and

1386
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: then they took her back. But oh my goodness. So

1387
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: for four more years, my mom and Margot went to

1388
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: the same high school and got really close since they

1389
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: were only a great apart. After she turned eighteen and

1390
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: Margo ran away from home, my grandpa was able to

1391
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: find her after six months. That's what my grandparents learned

1392
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: about what Margot had been through. Yeah, because they really

1393
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: didn't know about everything with the neighbor. Yeah.

1394
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 4: Uh, I mean, like as them like to find out

1395
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 4: later that you didn't take this kid in the.

1396
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: Guilt I'd feel. So they decided to get custody of JJ,

1397
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: but they couldn't prove any of JJ, and they couldn't

1398
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: prove any of Margo. Margo said that she regretted not

1399
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: telling them sooner. Darry passed away twenty nine years ago.

1400
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: So while my Mom and Margo still hate him. He's

1401
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: not around to do anything now. Susan, on the other hand,

1402
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: has apparently been the greatest sister and aunt to Bobby,

1403
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: Carrol and Stuart's kids, so they've never seen the stuff

1404
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: that she did. They think that my mom and aunt

1405
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: are exaggerating events because that version of Susan doesn't match

1406
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: with the version they know now. We called my uncle

1407
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: Bobby too. I made it clear to him that Susan

1408
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: will not be coming, so if he disagrees, he doesn't

1409
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: need to be there. I also told him that if

1410
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: he chooses to show up and Susan is with him,

1411
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: then security will make them both leave, and that goes

1412
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: for anyone who tries to get Susan there. My fiance

1413
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: and I had dinner with his mom tonight, and when

1414
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: she asked if I finally invited my grandma, I started

1415
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: with my grandma passed away thirteen years ago, so I

1416
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: don't think she needs a formal invitation. She got very

1417
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: snippy and my fiance told her to stop. She kept

1418
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: making passive, aggressive comments through the whole meal. Eventually my

1419
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: fiance snapped and yelled at her. He started yelling what

1420
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: Margot told us earlier in the day. We stormed out

1421
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: of his sister's house very quickly. His mom called to

1422
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: apologize about an hour ago. Apparently she had been told

1423
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: the story that Susan has been using about how my

1424
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: grandparents stole her daughters and brainwashed them against her. I

1425
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to feel less pressure on this

1426
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: now than my future mother in law has dropped it.

1427
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: Either way, Susan will not be invited. And there is

1428
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: an update again, but.

1429
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 4: The mother in law was trying to was probably like, oh, like,

1430
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 4: Susan's their grandmother, you gotta in fite her. Yeah, not

1431
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 4: knowing any of this context. Yeah, because in her nose

1432
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 4: into business the concern, and especially if what she was

1433
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 4: hearing was so, you know, terrible, if it were true,

1434
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 4: then she is probably yeah, acting out of that anger

1435
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,479
Speaker 4: as well, which is what Opee is doing.

1436
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: But op he knows the actual situation. Oh my goodness.

1437
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: But update two. So my wedding was yesterday and I

1438
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: thought I would share the craziness for anyone still interested.

1439
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: I decided do not invite Susan. I also told my

1440
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: uncle Bobby, Uncle Stuart, and Aunt Carol that they didn't

1441
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: need to come if they were mad that Susan wasn't

1442
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah stay home. Yeah, they all angrily agreed. Whatever, fine, fine,

1443
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: I'll come. Yeah. So things started going sideways about four

1444
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: days ago. Oh my goodness, Oh can't they just go

1445
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: straight forwards? I got a call from my sister Alex

1446
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: twenty eight female, fake name. I have three younger sisters

1447
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: and she's the oldest. Apparently she's been in contact with

1448
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: Susan for the last ten years and didn't tell anyone.

1449
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: She is now one of her flying monkeys. What how

1450
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: did that happen? Anyways, after Alex asked me one last

1451
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: time to invite Susan to my wedding, Susan told every

1452
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: one that if she didn't get an invitation, she would

1453
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: be so miserable. I would love that. I would love

1454
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: for you to be very miserable. You've made your kids

1455
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: miserable their entire childhood.

1456
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can handle a little bit of miser Think

1457
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 4: you'll be fine now before you think I'm a monster,

1458
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 4: this is not the first time.

1459
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: People just cave and give her what she wants and

1460
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: she's fine. However, this time, when Alex told me this

1461
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: and demanded that I invite her, I just said no,

1462
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: hung up the phone and called emergency services good, which

1463
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,480
Speaker 1: is something that nobody has ever done when she's pulled this. Apparently,

1464
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: paramedics arrived at her house and for whatever reason, they

1465
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 1: deemed her a risk to herself. She was taken to

1466
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: the hospital and placed on a seventy two hour hold,

1467
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: and she wasn't able to be released until this morning. Okay, see,

1468
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: because I think that's a great move.

1469
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 4: I agree, because like you, oh, you're gonna be miserable,

1470
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 4: let's let's sketch you some help.

1471
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if you're if you're really saying this, and

1472
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that if if this is what was called

1473
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: maybe like when she was saying she was miserable, she

1474
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: was saying that she might harm herself if she wasn't invited.

1475
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, this is a great move because if

1476
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: she's being serious, then she needs then she needs she

1477
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: needs the help, and if she's not, she's calling her

1478
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 1: out on her bluff. So that meant that she wouldn't

1479
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: be able to cause problems at my wedding, But it

1480
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: also meant that all those family members came back out

1481
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: and have been pestering me to cancel my wedding and

1482
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: not postpone it. My uncle Bobby went so far as

1483
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: to ask if I was happy that I got Susan

1484
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 1: locked up, and how it's all my fault instead, because

1485
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: I should have just invited her rather than calling the

1486
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: cops on her. And how if I wasn't mature enough

1487
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: to be the bigger person and invite her, I'm not

1488
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: mature enough to be getting married. I told him that

1489
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: if she's really willing to off herself, what she needs

1490
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: is professional help and not a wedding invitation. Yeah. Yeah, guys,

1491
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: it's not going to help her mental help to go

1492
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: to a wedding where a lot of people don't like her. Yeah, like,

1493
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: op has such plausible deniability here of just like, well,

1494
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: I was just worried about her.

1495
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 4: I was just so worried about her, And I can't

1496
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 4: believe nobody else in the family was worried about it.

1497
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: You guys were at so Actually, you guys are in

1498
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: the wrong for not to ask me. Seriously, she needed

1499
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: this help. It got to the point that I had

1500
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 1: to block a lot of numbers because people were blowing

1501
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: on my phone and leaving long, ridiculous voicemails. A few

1502
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: were even calling mine in my husband's offices to pester

1503
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: us about Susan whatever. So come to yesterday. I had

1504
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: already told Alex that if she was mad about Susan

1505
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: to just not bother coming, but she just kept insisting

1506
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: that she was fine. So my other bridesmaids and I

1507
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: started getting ready and Alex isn't there. I assume that

1508
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: she's late, because she's never on time for anything. I

1509
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: decided to have a black and white themed wedding, so

1510
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: guests were told in advance that they were expected to

1511
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,879
Speaker 1: wear black, white, gray, or something very close navy blue,

1512
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: cream lights blue, no bright vibrant colors. It was written

1513
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: on the invitation that guests not in the theme would

1514
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: be asked to change or leave. My husband and I

1515
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: were wearing dark, bright red. Bridesmaids and groomsman's were in white.

1516
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: That's a fun style. Yeah, So during the entire planning

1517
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: process and no one said anything about the theme, and

1518
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: except my mother in law, and she just said that

1519
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 1: it was a new and interesting choice, but she agreed

1520
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: to follow the dress code and wore a nice light

1521
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: gray dress. Alex never said anything anyway. We were almost

1522
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: ready to go and Alex still wasn't there, so I

1523
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: just assumed that she decided not to come. I was

1524
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: a wrong. So she showed up twenty minutes before the wedding,

1525
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: wearing her bridesmaid's dress, now died bright red. My other

1526
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 1: two sisters just became unhinged. They started screaming at her,

1527
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: and suddenly it was a massive fight. My one friend,

1528
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: who was my maid of honor, ran for a security guard. Dang,

1529
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: maybe don't start massive fights at you know, twenty minutes

1530
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 1: before the bride's wedding. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's probably

1531
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: best to just get the security guard that you hired

1532
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: for this exact reason and deal with it later. Literally

1533
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: a terrible wit andlet Yeah, Alex started screaming that my

1534
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: theme was the R word at her words, not mine,

1535
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: and how I'm a moron, and how I'm a witch

1536
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: because I asked my friend to be made of honor

1537
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 1: because everyone knows it's supposed to be the bride's sister.

1538
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: Well we know why you aren't made of honor. Yeah,

1539
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: what we agreed years ago that we would be each

1540
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: other's bridesmaid, but we would have different maid of honors,

1541
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: so we weren't picking a favorite sister. Then if she

1542
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: launched into how I'm a bad person for not inviting Susan.

1543
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: Security escorted her out of the venue. After that, the

1544
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: day went pretty well. I partied the night away with

1545
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: people who actually cared about me and my husband. I

1546
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: know this is probably not just going to blow over

1547
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: and then I'll hear about it for years to come,

1548
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: but I'm done caring. My boss already knows about the

1549
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 1: situation and says that I'm too valuable to lose. And

1550
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: my husband's job doesn't have a lot of customer interactions,

1551
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: so I don't think we need to worry about the

1552
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: pest mint from the flying monkeys costing either of us

1553
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: our jobs. And that is the end of that story.

1554
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: But oh my goodness, dude, do we it was a

1555
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: crazy one. Yeah, they really like your family really really

1556
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: may trouble. Yeah, capital t trouble. But I'm glad you

1557
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: had security. Glad your wedding ended up being fun. You

1558
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: hung out with the people who actually, yeah, you actually like.

1559
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: Some people just suck.

1560
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 4: Some people suck, and some people suck so much that

1561
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 4: they don't deserve to go to your wedding

1562
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: Exactly, And that's what's happening, And that's the moral of

1563
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: the story