WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Over Or Under?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It is Wednesday, June tenth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number thirteen. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 1>We're alive from the virtual s WBC Mortgage studios in

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<v Speaker 1>each of our homes around the Metroplex. And today we

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<v Speaker 1>got a special guest joining us. Nick out here with us,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got Isaiah stand Back currently of another podcast

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<v Speaker 1>talking Cowboys that I'm sure you guys have hopefully been

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<v Speaker 1>checking out. But Isaiah, great to have you on. We

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you joining us. We also got my normal crew here,

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<v Speaker 1>Amber Garcia, David Hellman. We got a lot to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about today, and this is gonna be our final show

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<v Speaker 1>of the off season this year. We're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>little hiatus as we do every off season, in the

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<v Speaker 1>month of June and heading into July, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>kick things back up late July when we get into

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. How's everybody doing today? Doing good, Bro, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>goodat Derek, good to see you. You too, Man, you

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<v Speaker 1>too so out the last first time I've seen you

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<v Speaker 1>actually got to see you last week in person, which

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<v Speaker 1>was different. Dave and I both are at a protest

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<v Speaker 1>in downtown, so I got an opportunity to spend a

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<v Speaker 1>little time with Dave. And of course we were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep your distance as we should right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was still a good, good opportunity to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten really good at like the elbow hello, you know, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how's it going? Yeah, yeah, I think we all have

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. Let's let's jump right in. Um it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'll start with with a topic that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be something that's kind of kind of fun. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, as long as we've all been quarantined,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's great news when we start hearing that that

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<v Speaker 1>football is showing signs of life. And what we heard

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<v Speaker 1>as of last Friday is that coaches are now being

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<v Speaker 1>allowed back at the building. So the coaches are now

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<v Speaker 1>back at the Star Coach McCarthy is in this in

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<v Speaker 1>the building, and the question I have for you guys

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<v Speaker 1>is how much do you think that their inability to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the building all this time has affected their

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<v Speaker 1>ability to not only get off to a good start

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<v Speaker 1>as far as understanding and knowing the environment, but also

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<v Speaker 1>just growing chemistry between the coaching staff. It's it's very different,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got to glass between you and you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>via WebEx, you're talking on phone, as opposed to being

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<v Speaker 1>able to have contact with one another at least, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it's at a distance, being able to see people's

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<v Speaker 1>faces as you're talking to me to them. How much

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that's affecting this coaching staff, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new coaching staff. Let's start with you guys. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably going to afect these guys a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit over But these guys are professionals. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably one of the more experienced coaching staffs

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<v Speaker 1>around the league, how I have to say, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys would be perfectly fine, especially with what coach

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy has done over the last year. Right, He's been

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<v Speaker 1>working with primarily a majority of these guys already, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're very familiar with themselves, with each with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty much just a surrounding sting at this point, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think more so than anything, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>affect in terms of getting in front of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>face to face, being able to coach them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>man to man, instead of just having to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>this virtual walls. As you just mentioned Amber, Well, like

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I mean, the good thing about this coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff is that they are experienced. You know that these

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<v Speaker 1>are guys that have many, many years of experience and

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<v Speaker 1>now your usual cowboys staff of new hires that are

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<v Speaker 1>basically brand new in the job. So that's good now.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as being in person, yes, obviously that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to help anytime you're trying to communicate with somebody, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's still interesting because I know there's a certain

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<v Speaker 1>amount of people that are only allowed back in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>You still have to keep your distance, so there's still

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that a lot of protocol that

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<v Speaker 1>are taking place, so you still not really getting that

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<v Speaker 1>full long contact and having a bunch of people together

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<v Speaker 1>in one same room. So still I think that they're

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna be doing a lot of virtual things. I

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<v Speaker 1>still don't know how all these protests and everything that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the country is going to affect the

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<v Speaker 1>whole virus and spreading it back up again, and how

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to play a role into everything that we

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<v Speaker 1>continue doing in the country and in the NFL. And

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<v Speaker 1>just is that gonna mess up Phase one? I don't know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>only TWN will tell. But the good thing is experienced here, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually I'm totally with Isaiah, like, there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff to be worried about. You know, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of, you know, time with their players,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have any time on grass. They don't one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent know what they're working with. I mean, at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in a regular year, these coaches would have

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<v Speaker 1>had you know, ten, eleven, twelve practices. They don't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>But your question the coaching staff itself, I'm not worried

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<v Speaker 1>about that at all. And that's that's a benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>what Mike McCarthy did, right. I Mean, he he basically

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<v Speaker 1>hired a bunch of guys, He's worked with a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows Joe Philbin really well, he knows Mike Nolan

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<v Speaker 1>really well, Jim tom Sula, they go way back. Al

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<v Speaker 1>Harris played for him, the defensive backs coach. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, familiarity on this coaching staff. And

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, we can all attest these guys

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<v Speaker 1>were in the building constantly from the day they got

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<v Speaker 1>hired until the day everything shut down. You know, before

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<v Speaker 1>they even had places to live in Dallas, they were

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<v Speaker 1>living in the hotel and spending eight, ten, twelve hours

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star every day or at least two months.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not remotely worried about that. I'm just worried about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how that pertains to their work with the

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<v Speaker 1>players who they obviously have not seen. Okay, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>move into something that maybe will cause a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more trepidation. Training camp now has been or the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly has told teams that they will be required to

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<v Speaker 1>have their training camps at their home facilities, which means

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in a very very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't recall a time since I've been with the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys in twenty years that we haven't had at least

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<v Speaker 1>part of training camp in another location. So my question

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys is how much does the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>them being in Frisco and not picking up the team,

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<v Speaker 1>moving them to California where they're isolated from their families,

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<v Speaker 1>their friends, their normal new teams and can only think

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<v Speaker 1>football and only do football twenty four seven. How much

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that affects the team chemistry, especially coming

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<v Speaker 1>off a situation where as you said, Dave, they have

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<v Speaker 1>not been on grass, they've not been working out in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season as they normally do. How much do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that affects him in Dave, I'll start with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can think of I can go both ways, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean being at your facility. I don't buy

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<v Speaker 1>it because going on the road for training camp is

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<v Speaker 1>it's an old it's outdated. At this point, the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are one of ten teams in the NFL that travels

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<v Speaker 1>for training camp. The vast majority of teams in the

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<v Speaker 1>league stay at their facility, and you know if they

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<v Speaker 1>if they sequester in a hotel, they do it for

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<v Speaker 1>like half of camp if that. And it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to bother anybody. Having said that, cramming everything that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do for a training camp into the facility

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<v Speaker 1>sounds difficult. Obviously, you know, you only have one outdoor

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<v Speaker 1>field and it's only going to be tenable to practice

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<v Speaker 1>on it early in the morning or late in the evening,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can't go out there at two o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon in Dallas the way that you can in Oxnard, California.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, the Star it's great, like it

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<v Speaker 1>is phenomenal, it's well built, it's state of the art,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not really meant for ninety players. That locker

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<v Speaker 1>room gets crowded during training camp, like they have overflow

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<v Speaker 1>locker rooms for the rookies. They got guys doubling up

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<v Speaker 1>on each other, and that's with no social distancing guidelines,

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<v Speaker 1>like it is cramped during training camp at the Star

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<v Speaker 1>when everything's normal. So now you're factoring in six feet

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<v Speaker 1>in distance and you gotta go a certain way down

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<v Speaker 1>the hallway to be safe, and that just it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a logistical nightmare to me, Isaiah, as a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's a former player who's had some experience with this

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<v Speaker 1>and knowing the benefits probably of both sides of staying

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<v Speaker 1>at your facility because you've played with other teams and

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<v Speaker 1>then also traveling, do you think there are advantages one

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<v Speaker 1>way or the other, staying at home or going on

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<v Speaker 1>the road for training camp. Yeah. I think the primary

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<v Speaker 1>reason why most coaches who you know, who are at

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<v Speaker 1>least the team coaches there are still deciding to go

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<v Speaker 1>off site with your with your team teams you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to do so, it is because they like to make

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<v Speaker 1>them uncomfortable. Training camp is supposed to be uncomfortable. Training

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<v Speaker 1>camp is supposed to be the part, the part that

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<v Speaker 1>you dislike most. Right, Most guys retire because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to training camp, right. So, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's that's what the coaches like. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>make you uncomfortable. They want to put you in that

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<v Speaker 1>situation where you're having to worry about all those things. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see my family, I can't go do what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do. I can't just hop in my

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<v Speaker 1>car and head, you know, head to grab something to eat. Like.

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<v Speaker 1>They want that environment because they want you to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on ball, right for those four to six weeks whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is now, right, they want you focus on ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't think it's as big as

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<v Speaker 1>a deal as as most people are prayer probably presenting

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I was when I was with the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to San Antonio, I went to Oxnard, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to both of those places, So I'm familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with how that works. But it's not that big of

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<v Speaker 1>a deal. Right at the end of the day, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's more of a benefit to be on site

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<v Speaker 1>at your facility, especially with this new regime. Right, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to hold new coaching staff, right, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>you had a handful of new players right there. They're

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. You need as much familiarity as possible in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of guys they're in their off time, right, my availability,

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<v Speaker 1>my ability to be able to call my massage therapists,

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to go to get some extra treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, with my person to my choice, aside

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<v Speaker 1>from the amazing training staff that the Cowboys have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>those things matter, right, and those things are gonna help,

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<v Speaker 1>especially as I started talking about like soft tissue injuries

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to present themselves in the first part

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<v Speaker 1>of training camp. Those things are gonna happen. So having

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<v Speaker 1>access to your people is important. In terms of families,

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<v Speaker 1>families were always at training camp, right, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>much time to be spending with your time with your family.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's FaceTime. There's all these other ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which you can talk to your FAMI, but those are

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<v Speaker 1>those are some long days now, I mean those are

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<v Speaker 1>like five thirty am to like eleven pm days, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're not missing much. You're not missing much. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>awesome that they're on site. I was hoping that they

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<v Speaker 1>that they were going to choose to do so. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that the league mandated it. But they have

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<v Speaker 1>literally the best facility probably in the whole league, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad they're here. Amber. Well, Derek, I see that

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<v Speaker 1>you did not listen to our show last week when

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<v Speaker 1>you were out. You did not go back and play

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to it because we talked about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, now that that they made that we started,

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<v Speaker 1>as I remember I told you before we started this,

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<v Speaker 1>is that like this is ample great support to your

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<v Speaker 1>own show. Derek. No, But now that I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, you know what, like good thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>Decays don't have Jason Garrett back because Mike McCarthy he's

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<v Speaker 1>not used to hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Mike McCarthy is just not used to having

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<v Speaker 1>the luxury of going to ox Star California. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something that he's like now having to come back

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<v Speaker 1>and say, Man, how am I gonna do this? This

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<v Speaker 1>is bringing you to him anyways, So I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it should be too bad for them honesty, aside from

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<v Speaker 1>the heat and all that. But when we're at training

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<v Speaker 1>camp a body Knock Star, you know, they still have

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<v Speaker 1>the team divided separately onto two fields. It's gonna suck

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<v Speaker 1>for us because back then we can just easily just

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<v Speaker 1>decide why we look at but now we'll get how

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<v Speaker 1>to be moving around depending on who we're wanting to look,

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<v Speaker 1>whether go outside or come back inside. So that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be tricky for us as far as the media and

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to cover everything that is happening on the field

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<v Speaker 1>during training camp. But in general, I honestly don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be as as bad as I originally thought. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's as you actually mentioned a little something about soft

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<v Speaker 1>tissue injuries and I want to real quick get some

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<v Speaker 1>opinions on that. I mean, what makes you think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be something that people can expect maybe

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<v Speaker 1>to see more and how concerned are you about that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean as a professional athlete, You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do everything possible to prepare to the best of your ability. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So guys are training like crazy. They have their trainers,

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<v Speaker 1>they have their programs that they're going through. They're doing

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason training program. That's awesome, However, it's not real ball, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first time that these guys touched the field,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going they're going to be literally up against another

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<v Speaker 1>person pressing against them. Two hundred fifty pound man, three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pound man, they're gonna be pressing against these guys, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you start doing that, when you start hitting

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<v Speaker 1>different angles, your your body is not used to that.

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<v Speaker 1>They hasn't done it in a while, So you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be subject to those injuries. You're gonna be subject

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<v Speaker 1>to those those those initial flavor ups until your body

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<v Speaker 1>is used to that tension, to your bodies used to

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of resistance. Um, it's just it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the game. It's just unfortunately these guys don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the time to really come back from those things

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<v Speaker 1>right now, because if any soft tissue injury that there is,

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<v Speaker 1>or any injuries in general that we have, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be detrimental to us. Because there's just not enough

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<v Speaker 1>time to get back in terms for the season. Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll concerned to you that. I mean, yes, that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously very concerning. Again, absolutely agreed, Like you can't underestimate

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<v Speaker 1>how how much these guys lose by not having a

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<v Speaker 1>traditional offseason program. And it's funny because that was the

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<v Speaker 1>way it was for you know, the first thirty forty

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<v Speaker 1>years of NFL history. I mean, you know, back in

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties, seventies, eighties, these guys didn't have these intens

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<v Speaker 1>offseason programs. But that's how these guys have been conditioned

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<v Speaker 1>all the way up from you know, junior high and

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<v Speaker 1>high school ball. So I think it is something they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to watch out for. Although you know NFL

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<v Speaker 1>teams already do this where they kind of ease guys

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<v Speaker 1>in with non contact stuff. I would imagine we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see more of that. Not to go down a wormhole,

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<v Speaker 1>but like what concerns me more is how you do

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<v Speaker 1>this and maintain COVID protocols. You know, whether it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>guys tested, making sure they're not exposing themselves to people

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<v Speaker 1>that could have symptoms, you know, whether that's people in

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<v Speaker 1>their own family or the people that they encounter on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis. I mean, our fans going to be

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to be part of this. You're gonna have players

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<v Speaker 1>like signing autographs with people that they don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>they've been. That's the stuff that gets back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes me question how all of this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to work. Is especially you know, we talked about Oxnard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of easy to self contain. But if these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are going home to their you know, kids who

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<v Speaker 1>have been at school, or you know, their wives and

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriends have been out doing what running errands all day? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows that. I'm just very curious about how you

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<v Speaker 1>mitigate the risks of spreading the virus. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think most most people need to know that when

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<v Speaker 1>you go to camp, right, So when you go off site,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a hotel, right, or you're in some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dorm, right. And even when you're on site, even

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<v Speaker 1>when you're doing camp in your own city at your facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still in in a hotel, right, They're still locking

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<v Speaker 1>you up. And I think even with this COVID stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>usually you go like four weeks and then at the

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<v Speaker 1>last two or three weeks of camp, you get to

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<v Speaker 1>go home early. I don't see these guys going home early, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I see these guys being locked up in a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>all day or not all that they're gonna be at

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<v Speaker 1>practice all day. Then they'll probably just transition straight into

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<v Speaker 1>the omni or whatever else is close at the facility,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will not be allowed to go home. Their

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<v Speaker 1>families will be able to kind of practice every so often,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, but that's gonna be it, man, basically use

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<v Speaker 1>this virtual virtual visiting. Yeah, I mean, it'll be very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how the Cowboys and really every team

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<v Speaker 1>adapts to this new reality, which is, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>do have to be aware of their players, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know they're they're probably all kinds of scenarios that are

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<v Speaker 1>being you know, talked about as far as who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get access to players, and how do they keep

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<v Speaker 1>the players isolated as much as possible, and how do

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<v Speaker 1>they keep the players from from doing having too much

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<v Speaker 1>contact with one another because obviously you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>the football contact, but um, you know it goes to

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<v Speaker 1>also I assume you know, you get it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like what I was saying about Friday when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you, Dave, Like, my first inclination was to

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<v Speaker 1>come over and give you a big hug or adap

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<v Speaker 1>you up or something. And it's just not the same,

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<v Speaker 1>right And and so you get all these guys, ninety guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them know each other and know

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<v Speaker 1>each other really, really well, and you put them in

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<v Speaker 1>a room together and haven't seen each other in a

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<v Speaker 1>while in person, there's gonna be a natural inclination that

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<v Speaker 1>as time goes on, they're gonna feel more and more

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable and they're going to forget about the fact they

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<v Speaker 1>have to be socially distanced. And so that that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of the challenges this whole thing is

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that someone is aware and making sure the

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<v Speaker 1>players continuously aware that they have to be socially distanced

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<v Speaker 1>and don't get so comfortable where you break down all

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<v Speaker 1>those things that that are the things that you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do. We're gonna check out whatever. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say that these locker rooms aren't dirty to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine I mean imagine now when there's a virus

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<v Speaker 1>virus going around and then just using different things like

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<v Speaker 1>in the restroom when they go shower. I guess there're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be someone that just comes wife's everything down after

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<v Speaker 1>each years or what's gonna happen. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of bottles and things like that. I've

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of get passed around a lot. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna be interesting to see how they handle the

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<v Speaker 1>whole situation. Yeah, I'm pretty sure bet that the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>will have protocols that they stipulate across every team that

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<v Speaker 1>teams will have to do certain things in order to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to ensure that they're being as a creating

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<v Speaker 1>an environment that's as safe for the employees including the

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<v Speaker 1>players as possible. And so yeah, I think they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's gonna whatever you pay in your in

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<v Speaker 1>your cleaning bill, it's about to go up because they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be more and more people that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to be involved in making sure if things

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<v Speaker 1>are sterilized as they're being used to ensure that that

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<v Speaker 1>employees and players are are kept in a safe environment.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go take our first break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a little game for you guys. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do a little over and under. We're gonna have some

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<v Speaker 1>players and some offensive skill players. I'm gonna throw out

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<v Speaker 1>some numbers for you guys, and have you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>whether you think they're gonna be over or under in

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<v Speaker 1>in the month of June. So hopefully, hopefully we've been

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do. We got a little game here,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called over or Under. I'm gonna throw out some

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<v Speaker 1>names of different offensive skill positions. I'm gonna throw out

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<v Speaker 1>some different statistics for each of them, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you a particular statistic or a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>statistics on each player that and then I'll ask you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me whether you think it will be over.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll be over or under that number in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty season. Let's mostly get Dak Prescott. Last season, his

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<v Speaker 1>numbers were up dramatically with yards to total yards. In

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen he was at three thousand, three hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four yards eighteen three eight hundred and eighty five yards,

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<v Speaker 1>and last year jumped all the way to four thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and two passing yards. First question I have

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<v Speaker 1>for you, guys is what do you think was the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest difference that you can pinpoint us to whist numbers

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<v Speaker 1>jumped so much last year from the previous year. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with you ember biggest difference. I think that having

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<v Speaker 1>John Kinna honestly helped him a lot, just having a

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<v Speaker 1>different coach and developing his skills. I think that once

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to figure out the whole wide receiver group,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, forget about the whole by community thing that

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<v Speaker 1>then we're trying now just having a set of wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we have, this is what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then allowing Dad to build that connection with them

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<v Speaker 1>and getting comfortable with them helped a lot. As far.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we're looking at twenty twenty, is it

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be over under type of stuff. I want to

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>ask you this first, does it have him a deal

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>made or is it playing under the franchise? Well, I'll

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.199
<v Speaker 1>ask you that question back. Do you think that his

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 1>deal has anything to do with how he will perform

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:24.919
<v Speaker 1>this year? Well, I think that depending on what the

0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 1>deal ends up being, whether he signs a multi year

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>deal or he plays under the franchise, it's gonna reflect

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.400
<v Speaker 1>back on how he plays. Because every time we say

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 1>it all the time, when these guys get a big deal,

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.639
<v Speaker 1>then that year it's like they don't end up performing

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>at the level that we expect them to perform in

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's like I think that I want

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.199
<v Speaker 1>to get my hopes up as far as him just

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>being better, especially under this new coaching staff, and then

0:23:55.359 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 1>having again the wide receivers hopefully developing even into something better,

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, Michael Gallop being a better player this year,

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 1>having Citee Lamb on the team and helping out in

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that way as well, and Mary Cooper hopefully hopefully becoming

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:14.439
<v Speaker 1>a more constant player that can help Dak and as

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>far as also the tight end position, Blake Jarwin. I

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.640
<v Speaker 1>do expect him to do a lot better this year

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>because he's been evolving as well. So if all of

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that is in place, I do expect Dak to be

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>able to play better, and hopefully they can this new

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff is able to help him with his skills,

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>have him run more, get out of the pocket, be

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>more more physical, more active. Obviously you don't always want

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 1>that with a quarterback, but he does have the skill

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and he can make it happen. Now we need to

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 1>see what happens on the pressure moment. I really don't

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>know if it's all because of Dak or the fact

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that Jason Garrett was directing the team at the time,

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.880
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of players, lot of people, I mean

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fans. When they when you're discussing Nike Prescott,

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>they want to bring back oh Is he's not clutch.

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>He can't play at the last minute of those opposing

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>teams that you need to win the game from, you know.

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>So I just think that your voice, he's gonna be

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>able to play well this year. I thought I could

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 1>tell that you disagree with part of that Amblo was saying,

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'll go to you next and talk a little

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>bit about that, specifically from the standpoint of whether the

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 1>deal will make a difference with regards to how he

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>plays this season. Absolutely, So I'm gonna no no, no disrespect,

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna tell you to bring it. Let me

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>hear it, Let me hear it. There's two reasons why

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 1>he bawled out last year. Number one, it was time

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>to get paid, all right. When it's time to get paid,

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 1>your game steps up, right. You got a little bit

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 1>more juice in you, right because you know that you're

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>expecting that check and you have to perform because that

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 1>is the season that they're gonna look at. They're not

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna look at the seasons before. They're looking at best

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 1>season leading up to that pay day. So that's a

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>all right. Our b is we were playing from behind

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot, right. We didn't have a great season. We

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 1>did not have a great season. Right. The team did

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>not do that well. So when you when you're having

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>to force those points, right, what are you doing. You're

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>unable to run the ball. Right. When you're unable to

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.360
<v Speaker 1>run the ball, you're unable to control the clock, which

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>means that you're playing for behind, which means you need

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>to throw the rock, right, So it allowed for those greater,

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>those bigger plays that allowed for him to throw the

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>ball substantially more than he did the prior did the

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>years before pre existing. So those are the two reasons

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 1>why I let I point to in terms of why

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 1>he performed that way last year, now in terms of

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>this year and what we can expect that of him

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>this year. To think about somebody like Kirk Cousins, right when,

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>who kept kept playing on dog on franchise tags. Right,

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>so you're gonna ball out if he's on a franchise tag.

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna ball why because guess what, I can't afford

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to get hurt, right, And I know then again it's

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>just like you're on a contract year again, right, So

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>when it's time to talk money again, I have to

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>ball out. Right, if he is underneath the contract, guess

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 1>what he's going to show out just because what because

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:55.919
<v Speaker 1>I know everybody's looking at me now because they just

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>gave me all this money. But I understood. But with

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>that understood, I think that his numbers go down this year, right,

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I think his numbers go down. So as we talk

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 1>about over Underdee, I think his numbers go down because

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.679
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't need to do as much. He doesn't need

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to do as much. He has more people around him, right,

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>he has more weapons than he had last year, and

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the defense is substantially better than it was last year.

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>So with that understood, these guys are gonna be in

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a position to be able to run the ball substantially more.

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I know we're getting the freaky Ezeki hearing a little bit,

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>but Zeke's gonna his numbers will definitely go up because

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>they were. They'll be trying to control the game and

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>control the clock, and they won't be forced to have

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to throw the ball even though he does have more weapons.

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>But ye see on real quick to me, forget about

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>stats two minutes, can you hear me? Yeah? So sorry, sorry, sorry,

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>And just wanted to say this to me, forget forget

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>about stacks Like me, I don't look at stats that much.

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I really don't care. I just look at the actual

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 1>performance and the field of the game and how they

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:04.719
<v Speaker 1>we're doing in the game. To me, last year, in

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>my own perspective, I don't think that played that well.

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't that great in my eyes. So that's why

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I expect him to be better this year, regardless of

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the situation. So that's I am saying this opinion based

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>off my own views of every single game and not stats.

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Screw stats. I want them to win games. He needs

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>to win freaking games. At the end of two minute warning,

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>two minute warning, you need to make the pass and

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>make it happen. Sober Amber is going to represent the

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>eye test people for us on this show. That's good

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to know. Like, don't mind what all of these numbers

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>say about how good the quarterback is. I will decide

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>how good he actually is. I'm glad will we've established,

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>but glad no. I completely agree. I completely agree with

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah for whatever it's worth. Um, if Daks with five

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>thousand yards this year, they probably aren't that good of

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a team, and they weren't that good of a team

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>last year. He's absolutely right. Go look at most of

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Dak's gaudiest games. They were behind, they fell down. They

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>fell behind by three scores. Against Green Bay, you have

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>to throw your way out of it. They were down

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, twenty four to seven against Buffalo, Chicago

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>built up a big lead. These are all games where

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he went over three hundred green Bay. I think he

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>threw for four to forty and the other thing seven times.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Last year as a team, the Cowboys failed to average

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>four yards per carry seven times. And that is not

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>an indictment on Zeke Elliott or the Cowboys offensive line.

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>It's an indictment on their coaching staff for being very boring,

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>very uncreative, rushing up the gut on first and ten

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and second and long all of the time. You know,

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about it till I'm blew in the face.

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>The Vikings could do nothing with Dak Prescott in that

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>game last year. They could not stop him, and the

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys ran on first down seventy eight percent of the

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>time anyway, because their coaches were either bored or scared,

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which, but it's unforgivable. Um. And they

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>can't afford to do that. They've got to use their

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>running game more creatively. They got to utilize play action better. Um.

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>But you can do all of that. And like I said,

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean if that, if Dak is flirting with five

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>thousand yards, then they're not balanced enough to be successful. Um.

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I don't remember the original question. Hopefully

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>it's under Hopefully Dak throws for like forty two hundred.

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Forty two hundred feels like a sweet spot to me.

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I like it. All right, So we got we got

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>basically three unders. Is that right, Amber, Were you under

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>as well? No? Said no, I said over because to me, well,

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's sorry, just keep going. This is the way.

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>The point is, I don't look at stats. I just

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>wanted I want to see him play. Well, don't give

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>me stats. He to me can do better this year

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and be under those stats, you know. So that's the thing.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's like, I think he will be better

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>this year. He might not go over those kinds of stats,

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>but he might be better this year overall better. You

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>don't like my game? Yeah? Yeah? And Amy throws for

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>five hundred yards and we go, we go, you know,

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>thirteen and three. We're good. We're good. Yeah, that's so,

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that's so lazy. I'm sorry. Okay, that's okay, all right,

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Moving on a right, let's go. Let's go to Zeke Elliott.

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Last year, the stat that stuck out to me was

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>his receptions number. And I remember when he first got here.

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that that we were so disappointed

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 1>in his first year was that they really didn't use

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>him in the passing game. He had thirty two catches

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>his first year twenty six and his second year. By

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>his third year he jumped to seventy seven, and last

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>year he at fifty four. UM, So my question for

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>you is off that level where he was last year

0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>fifty four receptions, do you think they were utilizing him

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>enough in the passing game or do you think they

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>should be doing more there? That's all with you, guys, YEA, yeah,

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you the Yeah. I think I think he

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>falls right and back into the same conversation we just

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>had right in terms of some of the situations that

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>they were forced into, Right, they were forced to throw

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball to get back into games. And I don't

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>think that you want to be I don't think that

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.479
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about Zeke and the mindset that

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>that you want to throw him the ball, right, That's

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.239
<v Speaker 1>that's not the conversation that you want to have when

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>we're when you're referencing Zeke. You want to be able

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>to do what we did a couple of years ago

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and just hand the ball to Zeke and just know

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that hey, he's coming at you down here, and it

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>really doesn't matter what you do on the other side

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>of the ball. We're going four or five yards a pop. Right,

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>that's the conversation you want with Zeke. You want to

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>take the conversation as far as passing to polar Right,

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that's the person you want to be talking about. So

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Ken Zeke catch? Absolutely, should Zeke be catching? You know,

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>seventy passes per year? Heck to the note, that's not

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>what you want. You want him toting that rock. You

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>want him consistently rushing for one hundred yards of a game.

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You want the office a linement feeling like their bullies

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>out there and let those other three receivers and been

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>drawing do what they do because we have enough weapons

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>now for guys that can catch the rock. Harmon, Yeah,

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:04.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm I mean, if you listen to this show for

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>any length of time, you know that I've whined about

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Zeke's lack of a role in the passing game for years,

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and honestly, a lot of that is creativity. Again going

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>back to the coaches, because Zeke caught seventy seven passes

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I think in twenty eighteen, like he caught a lot

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>of balls, but it was all it was dump offs

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and boring stuff like not getting into the open field,

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:33.719
<v Speaker 1>not getting downfield, not a very creative way to utilize

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>your running back. Having said all of this, I again

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>agree with Isaiah because I don't want Zeke catching targets

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that should be going to Ceedee Lamb, Blank Jarwin or

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>even Tony Follard, Like get get those guys involved. And

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>if you have to put two backs on the field

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>on occasion to make it work, that's fine. I really again,

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll use the term sweet spot. Like for Zeke, I'm

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>thinking between twenty five and thirty five catches is plenty

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>for him, Like, you don't need to take any more

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>targets away from better receiving options. And it's it's not

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that he's bad, he's a fine receiver, but there are

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>better receivers who could take those target options. Yeah, Camber,

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't have much to add to what you guys said.

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm right on with you guys. I just think that

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>they do need to do it enough to where it

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>does keep that element for defenses to kind of keep

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>an eye on and be aware that they can do

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that with Zeke and that he can be utilized that

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>way and just kind of keep defenses on their toes,

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>but with all these other receiving guys, they just find

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the right balance for him. And Zeke is such a

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>great runner, and I do want them to utilize him

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>more in the running game together with Tony Poller. So yeah,

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I think the spot that Dave said, that sweet spot

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.720
<v Speaker 1>right there kind of works for me as well. Sounds

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>like everybody's on the under on that under fifty four

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 1>catches for Zeke Elliot. Let's move on to Amari Cooper.

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>In twenty nineteen, it was his best statistical year of

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 1>his career in almost every category. He had seventy nine receptions,

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 1>eleven hundred and eighty nine yards, and he had eight touchdowns.

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>So my question for you guys is can he maintain

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>that type of production after they've added a guy like

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Ceedee Lamb and by the way, a Michael Gallup who

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.879
<v Speaker 1>seems to be improving every year. Do you expect him

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to be able to maintain those numbers in twenty twenty.

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's start with Dave. So here's the thing. I actually,

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>for our TV show The Blitz a couple of weeks ago,

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I really looked at the math of like how you

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 1>can divvy up all of these targets. And I mean

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>over the course of his career, whether it was dead,

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 1>whether it was a Mari, Dak has done a pretty

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>good job at getting his number one receiver targets. Like

0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>it's hard for me to imagine Amar having less than

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>let's say, seventy five eighty catches, and that's not a

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>lot by number one receiver standards. I get that because

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you know number one receivers. You know what, Mike Thomas

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>caught like two hundred passes last year. Mike Thomas doesn't

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>have nearly as many options on his offense as as

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>a Mark Cooper does. And that's you know, I'll go

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 1>with ag for a set because I think people get

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>so fixated on catches. I don't care as long as

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the offense is producing. And that's what That's what Dak

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>has said the whole time he's been heres, like I

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>want to throw to the open guy. Well between a

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Mari gallop now Ceedee Lamb again, Jarwin and then the

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>running backs, somebody's gonna be open all the time. So

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't need a Mari to like catch one hundred balls,

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>but I do think he'll probably you know, it'll be

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>somewhere between seventy five and eighty five, and that's perfectly fine.

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with that at all, because

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>if Dak's doing his job the right way, he'll be

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>divvying everything else up among everyone else. Amber Well, I

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>expect it to be pretty similar to last year. And

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>just because going back to what I remember, all those

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>away games, he was terrible. He just completely disappeared. So

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.919
<v Speaker 1>if you take that in and you balance it out

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and say, Okay, now he's playing better on the road,

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and then now he's not as great at home, you know,

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>that creates some kind of balance there when it comes

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to his stats. So I expected to be kind of

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>similar if he's able to play better on the road,

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>all right. You know that actually brings up an interesting point, Isaiah,

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that I want to ask you, because you came to

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the NFL as a quarterback, you spend some time at receiver.

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd got to hear from you specifically on how much

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>can being on the road affect or what are the

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>things that on the road can affect a wide receiver

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>or was this just a situation where just for whatever reason,

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 1>whether it was just he played better teams that knew

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>how to how to cover him on the road, and

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I was just half stance, like, what do you what

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>do you attribute all that too as being a guy

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 1>that's actually played receiver in the NFL? Yeah, And that

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>was just one of those things. It was just one

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 1>of those flings. Man. Unfortunately he didn't perform that well

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>on the road. It happens. Some guys don't perform that

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>well at home, right I think. I mean, I remember thinking,

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember the Cowboys not doing so well at home

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>at some point in time. But they want away games, right,

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>So it is what it is. Man. There's there's nothing

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that people can point to and say, oh, this is why.

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that's something that's in the back of his head.

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:26.720
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, as as an athlete,

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>as a player, you know, hey, I just didn't do

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that well. I just gotta figure it out, right, I

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>can't have these ups and downs you need. I'd rather

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>be consistent. Didn't have all these spikes, right, these different valleys.

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>So um. But in terms of you know, do we

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 1>want Coop you know, doing what he did last year?

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Heck to the no, you don't want him doing well

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 1>he did last year, right, you don't. He doesn't have

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to anymore. Right, Yes, he has a one hundred million dollars, right,

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>but you're paying him one hundred million dollars for those

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>couple plays a game that he actually shows out. You

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>don't need him showing out the whole game, right, you

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 1>just you don't. He's not Julio. He's not Julio. Let's

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>let's just be real, right, He's not Julio. He's not

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 1>He's not you know, he's not. He's not Od, he's

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>not any of those guys. Right, So you don't rely

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to rely on Coop to be this

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>this magnificent. Just just you know, a guy who can

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.479
<v Speaker 1>route up anybody. Coop is a is a D threat,

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what he is. Coop's a D threat, right, and

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>he has that gold ue. He could run an end route,

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>he could run a post, he could run a goal, right,

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and you want him to be able to continue to

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>do that. And you want to be able to run

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball enough right where those safeties start trying to

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>creep down. You want to be able to throw the

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 1>ball to Jar one and CD and gallop enough underneath coverage, right,

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.959
<v Speaker 1>so those guys start creeping up, and then what you want,

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>you want Coop to have five receptions for like one

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:34.439
<v Speaker 1>twenty five in a tub. That's what you want Coop

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>to do, right, And one of those places gonna be

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a sixty to seventy yard play, right, So four of

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 1>those other catches you're gonna be you know, within you know,

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 1>five to six, seven, eight yards. That's what you want

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Coop to do. You want him just get those Okay,

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>third down play got you, Third down play got you,

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and then boom, big play. That's why you pay him

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>one hundred million dollars. You don't need him putting up

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>those numbers like he did last time, because this should

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>be a substantially more well balanced offense than it's ever been.

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I was let's going to just

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 1>real quick. It's kind of what I was getting at

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 1>is like I can just I can imagine. You know,

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>six weeks into the season, people are like, oh my god,

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are paying Amari twenty million a year and

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>he's only done this as long as as long as

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the offense is humming. I don't care. Like you're paying

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper, you're paying him to make plays. You're also

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>paying him to open up the field for everybody else, Right, Like,

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>if the opposing defense it's committed to slowing him down

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and he has a bad day, but Ceedee Lamb or

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallup or both of them are just killing everybody.

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. And I feel like people get fixated

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>on the money and feel like you got to have

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>one hundred yard day every week if you're making that

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>much money. I'm sorry about your fantasy football team, but

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I do not care. If the offense is balanced and humming,

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:53.919
<v Speaker 1>Amari can do whatever the hell he wants to. Yeah,

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's a great point day because we've seen it

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>so many times around here with the Cowboys, and it

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.879
<v Speaker 1>probably happens all around the league. One player player plays

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the exact same way, but as soon as that check

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 1>comes in, fans have a different expectation of them, and

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I would suspect this year it's probably going to be

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that way for for him. If Dad gets a new deal,

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be best believed, they're gonna be different expectations,

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>at least from fans. And the good thing for the

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys is that Amari Cooper doesn't see them to be

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the kind of guy that's affected by what other people think. So,

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>he's not the kind of guy that seems to be

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 1>deterred there where some guys do get in their head

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>and then they start pressing and they start pushing to

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>get more opportunities because they feel like they gotta quiet

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the people that are the detractors. But let's go and

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 1>take our final break. When we come back, I'll have

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>a well, Dave, I'm sorry, I just Amari. Amari is

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>not that guy. He never has been. A week two

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>last year, they he caught five balls for forty yards.

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>They won easily, and he was the happiest guy in

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the locker room. Um. And and that's that's exactly what

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you need. Um. There's only like two receivers in the

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>league who catch ten balls for one hundred yards every week,

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's like it's Hopkins and Julio. And it's not

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a big deal if Amary can't match that, I'm not

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>worried about it. And I just thought about the fact

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that Hopkins got traded for basically a bag of ms.

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:15.520
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0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.560
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<v Speaker 1>skill position for the Cowboy positions for the Cowboys. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to Cede Lamb next. And this last year

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at Randall Cobb's numbers because obviously he was

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<v Speaker 1>the third receiver. Last year, CD is projected to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of three. Who knows where he'll fall in that line,

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<v Speaker 1>but Randall Cobb at fifty five receptions, eight hundred twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and be as productive as a veteran like Randall Cobb.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with you guys. Are that's that's a heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a question right there. Dum is he good enough

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<v Speaker 1>right now? We don't know, We don't know. Um. College

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<v Speaker 1>is one thing. NFL as a whole another beast, right

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 1>and where we're everybody's projecting him to be right as

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 1>we possibly taking over that slot position, and that slot

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>position you gotta be. You gotta have enough tenacious um,

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, attitude, gotta have a little nasty to you

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>to be able to go in there and dig out

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>those safeties and hit some linebackers and you know those

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 1>things or those that willingness is going to open up

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>opportunities for you. So I am interested and I'm intrigued

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 1>to see how he performs once he touches the field.

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Another thing is how well he picks up this offense. Right.

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 1>There's you know, when you when you have a guy

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that comes in, if he could pick up the offense,

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and you have three guys out there that know exactly

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.319
<v Speaker 1>what every position does, and you can do whatever you want.

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 1>As an office of coordinator, you're gonna have a field dame,

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and then you can force guys open. Right, you can

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>just get guys open. So if he's if he doesn't

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 1>have that ability to come in and pick that up,

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 1>then he's going to be limited. So you know, in

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.439
<v Speaker 1>four or five rounds, right, and then we really don't

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>know how productive he'll be. But um, in terms of

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>talent wise, he has all the skill sets that you need,

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>all the everything, every box that you want to check

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>off for somebody that's going to come in and play

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that potential role. He has the skills. He's just really

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 1>a matter of how fast he can really come in

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and take on and adapt to this system. One thing

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll say is I'm very interested to see once we

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>get to training camp if the Cowboys use him as

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:37.800
<v Speaker 1>exclusively in that slot role as they give in Randall Randall,

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>or if they decide that they're gonna between because by

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the way, you know, they got Amark Cooper, he knows

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 1>how to work in the slot as well. I'm interested

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to see are they gonna have are they gonna try

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to create a situation with these receivers where all three

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>can maybe play all three spots and then you're you're

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>sliding guys around. That makes it very, very difficult for

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>defense is to account for guys and to be able to,

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, try with guys and do some of the

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>things that last year they were able to do in

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.399
<v Speaker 1>some games where they were able to shut Amari Cooper down.

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 1>But let's go on, Amber, let's go to you next.

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you think he's going to be able to be

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>as good as Randall Cobb in year one? Well, again,

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to tell for rookie in the first year.

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Obviously we haven't even seen a single practice or anything yet.

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>But one thing that I do think will help him

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot. It's his high, especially at the slop position,

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.279
<v Speaker 1>compared to Randall cob I was just looking up his

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 1>high Randall. It's five ten, Ceedee Lamb is six two,

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 1>so I think what you well, okay moment, let me

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 1>keep going with Sidney Lamb in his and being at

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>six two, that's definitely I mean, just by default being taller,

0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna help you in the game, just help you

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>with catching balls hopefully, and just Dak having a better

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>target hit wise, and Beam being able to find the guy.

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 1>So that's the only thing I can think of that

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>it's beneficial at the position comparing to Randall Cop last year.

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 1>But you just never know how howard rookie is going

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to do him the first year, so I don't know

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen for sure. But I didn't come

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 1>this far to come this far, you know what I mean?

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't drive the draft a receiver at seventeen

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>bandwagon for three months and then like hop off now

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not gonna hop off now that football is

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>getting close. Yes, I think he can be better than

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Randall Cop. I think he's got NFC Offensive Rookie of

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the Year. Do they do one for NFC and AFC

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 1>or is it just the NFL? I don't remember. He's

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 1>got Offensive Rookie of the Year potentials. It's it's gonna

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:51.800
<v Speaker 1>be hard for him to beat the quarterbacks, you know, Burrow,

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe too whatever, but he should be in the conversation.

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I did. I did the math on

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>this a couple of weeks ago, and I mean it's

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>hard to it's hard to phase out all of the variables.

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:09.439
<v Speaker 1>But I think his absolute ceiling, I mean, excuse me floor,

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 1>his absolute floor is like thirty five catches like that

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>is the baseline, and I think he could get as

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:18.800
<v Speaker 1>high as like seventy throw in potential for punt returns,

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that's probably another twenty twenty five touches on the season.

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got serious potential to do a lot

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of damage. Yes, I mean, like I said, I know,

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of unknowns, but I think he can

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:36.280
<v Speaker 1>be better than Randall conn right away for sure. Indeed,

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.319
<v Speaker 1>to your point, just to pickyback off, what you said

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>about the guys being able to come in and learn

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the offense, to be able to play different positions, it

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of reminds me of what I was playing with

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 1>New England. Right when I was playing with the Patriots.

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 1>There's no player on the Patriots plays one position. You know,

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Previously Tom Brady, that's the only person that played one position.

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Other than that, you played multiple positions. So you know myself,

0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Randy Moss, you know Wes Welker, Joey Galloway, you know,

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 1>we had all these guys and you have you were

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:04.320
<v Speaker 1>one player, you're outside, one player, you're totally on the

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 1>opposite end. One player you're in the slot, right, And

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:09.320
<v Speaker 1>that ability for to give the officer coordinator is that

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>flexibility to create those mismatches, to be able to line

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you up inside and bring a motion down inside and

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you have to go out. They're all kind of different

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:19.880
<v Speaker 1>ways in which you can release. It messes with the

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>defense and if he can pick it up, man, this

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 1>whole of this whole receiving corp is going to be

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:27.399
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be nasty. Yeah. This one of the things

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that I actually loved about drafting a CD Lamb is

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 1>that I do think when you look at it, Randall

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 1>cop although he could play on the outside, I thought

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 1>he was a much better receiver in the slot. If

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you can get receivers that really can do it equally

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 1>well playing outside and playing in the slot, it just

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 1>gives you so many more advantages. And so I'm interested

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 1>to see when we get the training camp how quickly

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 1>picks up the offense, because that will be a part

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of it. You know, picking up one position is one thing.

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Picking up a second position or a third position is

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:54.399
<v Speaker 1>a whole different thing. So it'll be a lot about

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>how well he can pick it up, how fast he

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>can pick it up, and how effective he can be

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>at all those different positions. Getting ready for the season.

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to Michael Gallup. Last season, he had

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 1>sixty sixty six receptions, eleven hundred and seven yards, six touchdowns.

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Is he good enough to be the number two option

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:12.800
<v Speaker 1>on this team ahead of c. D Lamb? He's he

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:15.360
<v Speaker 1>going to continue to be the number two option on

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 1>this team? Or do you think that CD is going

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.359
<v Speaker 1>to kind of push him out a little bit based

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>upon what you know of CD and his ability level.

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's start with you, Dave. I don't I mean, maybe

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>this is a cop out. I don't like to think

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>of it as like number one, two and three, like

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think Michael Gallup is going to keep

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 1>his job on the outside. I think CD Lamb is

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>going you know, when it's all said and done, they're

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:41.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna have like a thousand offensive snaps. I think CD

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>will play most of those in the slot. You know,

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>he'll do a little bit of everything, but like it'll

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:49.719
<v Speaker 1>be sixty seventy percent in the slot if I had

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to guess, So, I mean, Gallup technically is still your

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>number two receiver. I think his numbers will go up.

0:51:58.360 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, I think if he caught six

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:02.360
<v Speaker 1>six balls last year, I think he's got the potential

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 1>for seventy or more. But you know, I don't think

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 1>CD's gonna like take quote unquote take his job because

0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it all intermingles. Like you said, hopefully, it's

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 1>three guys that are all moving into three different positions

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Speaker 1>on a somewhat regular basis. That's what I would love

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to see. So I don't really like looking at it

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 1>in terms of a pecking order. Amber Well, you know what,

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna get to it. But one of the

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>questions that I have from fans was asking, how do

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.399
<v Speaker 1>you get these receivers to get better at catching the ball?

0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>We saw them struggle last year where you saw them

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:45.800
<v Speaker 1>dropping the ball many many times. And I think that again,

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe Isaiah, you can speak about that. I don't know

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.719
<v Speaker 1>how you get better at catching a simple a ball

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that it's coming towards you. But I think that because

0:52:56.560 --> 0:53:00.239
<v Speaker 1>of the experience and just him coming back for is

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>it fourth year now or three? This is his third

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:07.640
<v Speaker 1>year Gallup, right, third Gallup, third year. I mean, we've

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 1>seen him just getting better and better every year, so

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that his numbers should be able to go up.

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 1>But he just he just needs to clean up his

0:53:16.760 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>game a little bit more and he can be so so,

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:23.719
<v Speaker 1>so so much better. A yeah to hit on both points,

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 1>d I agree with you on the whole pecking order thing.

0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:29.279
<v Speaker 1>We obviously know who number one is simply because his

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 1>check defines number one. So but as far as the

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:36.760
<v Speaker 1>two A to B, I don't think it really matters.

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, I think you're gonna be surprised

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>at how much you probably see Gallup in the slot.

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 1>If I was off as a coordinator simply because of

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 1>his speed, right, the ability if you put him at

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Cooper on the same side, and now all of a

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:51.799
<v Speaker 1>sudden that that single safety or whatever, whether they're too high,

0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's say they're cheating to that one side safety.

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:56.320
<v Speaker 1>They're working out one safety either way, single high or

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 1>too high they're going to cause problems and he can

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 1>get on that safety quick fast and her. So they

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>got to make a decision whether they want to stick

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 1>him or whether they want to stick Coop if they

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 1>put them on the same side, right, So I think

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be surprising how often you see him on

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the inside. But again, him and CD, they should be

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 1>very much interchangeable and it should be an attacked by committee, right,

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that's what we're all asking for. That's all. That's

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:18.399
<v Speaker 1>a hooper, that's what we're all assuming. But in terms

0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>of the whole catching portion amer that she touched on,

0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, I hate to take shots, man,

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 1>but you know, Dak wasn't the most accurate cat in

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:28.239
<v Speaker 1>the world in the first part of the season. You know,

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>he had a lot of balls that were thrown behind receivers.

0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:32.319
<v Speaker 1>He had a lot of balls that had too much

0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>velocity on them. So there's a lot of things that

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 1>play a part in receivers ability to be able to

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:39.280
<v Speaker 1>catch the ball and do they need it. The general

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 1>rule is if it touches your hand, you catch it. Okay,

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what that's old school, right, But the reality is

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of other factors. You know, the ball

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 1>being in front of me versus the ball being on

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:50.120
<v Speaker 1>my back shoulder. It creates a problem, right, it creates

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:52.359
<v Speaker 1>a huge problem. So even though I touched it, even

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:55.120
<v Speaker 1>though it touched my body, it's still a very difficult catch.

0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:57.319
<v Speaker 1>And everybody's gonna say, well, you're getting paid enough money

0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to catch it. It's still a difficult catch. Right. There's

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a grown man, there's a girl man pulling on me.

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:03.719
<v Speaker 1>There's a ball that's coming hot, is behind me. My

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:06.880
<v Speaker 1>body's going this way, so it's difficult. Guys are going

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to continue to work on their hands like they always do.

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 1>They'll get on the on the jug machine or whatever

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.800
<v Speaker 1>they're utilizing, and they'll get their catches in um. But

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:15.759
<v Speaker 1>you know it's not just on them. Dad has to

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>throw a more catchable ball as well. All right, let's

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 1>move to the tight end position quickly. Blake Jarwin Jason

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Witten actually the last season had sixty three catches, five

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:27.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty nine yards, four touchdowns. Now Blake last

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.319
<v Speaker 1>season had thirty one catches, three hundred and sixty five

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:33.160
<v Speaker 1>yards and three touchdowns. The question is, is Blake good

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:37.720
<v Speaker 1>enough to be better than nineteen with that sixty three receptions,

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 1>five hundred and twenty nine yards at four touchdowns, You

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:43.160
<v Speaker 1>should you should, probably should, you should just probably just

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>say the stats. You shouldn't just say. You shouldn't say

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:49.520
<v Speaker 1>better than when it's no, probably no, no, actually actually yes,

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:51.839
<v Speaker 1>to be clear, just to be clear. And I stay

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:54.960
<v Speaker 1>at that question like that specifically because I'm talking in

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:57.719
<v Speaker 1>all fast it's not necessarily the leadership part. Let's leave

0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that part out. But in all fastests blocking and being

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<v Speaker 1>able to go down, feel, get open, make catches, score

0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:07.359
<v Speaker 1>all those things? Is he a better Is he going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to be a better all around tight

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<v Speaker 1>end than Jason Witton was in twenty nineteen? Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with you guys. Yeah, I know we're talking about the goat.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know it's blasphemous. Goat. How old is

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<v Speaker 1>with thirty eight thirty nine? Some run there? I think

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:26.360
<v Speaker 1>he turned thirty Yeah, one of one of those. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it could he has the potential, we like to

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<v Speaker 1>use that word, he has the potential to be better

0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:35.200
<v Speaker 1>than a wit. But it with stats last year, a

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight thirty eight year old wit? Um, why are

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you thanking so much? This is a sick. It's a

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 1>trick question. Do you think he's slick on this one? Um,

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:52.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not a trick question answering. No, There's there's so

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 1>much that comes with being a vent. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the top tight ends every right, what's in

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:59.320
<v Speaker 1>that conversation for top five? Right? So he's so savvy

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and his ability to find the niches in the defense,

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:05.839
<v Speaker 1>that's what creates opportunities. It wasn't It never was witch

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>physical stature or his physical skill set that just got

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:12.160
<v Speaker 1>him open. It was his savvy nous. Right. So if Jarwin,

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:14.759
<v Speaker 1>if he could figure that out, didn't hick. Guess if

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:16.520
<v Speaker 1>he can't figure that out and figure out, you know,

0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 1>watching the film study to find those holes in the defenses,

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and watch old Witt and watch Gonzalez and some of

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 1>these other old school casts, then I don't see it happening,

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 1>especially with all these weapons. But he should have substantially

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.520
<v Speaker 1>more one on one matchups than any of the anybody

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 1>in recent history has had. Yeah, that's an interesting point

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<v Speaker 1>because if you think about Jason Witt, and there were

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 1>certain moments in games, particularly third down, where teams would

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.240
<v Speaker 1>try to take him out. I don't think Blake Jarwin

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be facing that this year. I don't

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 1>think with all the other offensive weapons. I think a

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of times he's gonna be facing one guy and

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>it's probably not gonna be if its own coverage is

0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 1>probably not gonna be bracket coverage. He's probably gonna be

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:53.919
<v Speaker 1>in a situation where he has opportunities to get open,

0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and so we're gonna get to see You're right, We're

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna get to see how savvy he can be. Amber

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<v Speaker 1>you answer the question, I think again, no one can

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:06.520
<v Speaker 1>take away everything that Witten has done for the Cowboys. Okay,

0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that's a fact. Great now compared to what he last year,

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I have to say, I mean, he went and did

0:58:13.480 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 1>not look like himself last year. He was going downhill

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and he was getting slower. He was

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>dropping balls things that you you are not used to seeing.

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 1>We're in do he was doing now. Blake jar Went

0:58:27.840 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, I feel like he does for

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:34.120
<v Speaker 1>sure have the potential to keep going upwards. We've seen

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 1>it every time he was able to get more playing time.

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:41.320
<v Speaker 1>We saw it two years ago, the how his game

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 1>just kept getting better the more he was on the field.

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 1>He just needs to get more chances, more opportunities of

0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 1>being out there on the field, getting more comfortable, just

0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 1>having more time to kind of get loose throughout the

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 1>game and making the plays that he needs to make.

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:59.240
<v Speaker 1>But I definitely think he can have a better year

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:02.920
<v Speaker 1>this year and possibly even match what those numbers that

0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the Witten guy last year. Hey, I'd

0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 1>say this with a tremendous amount of respect for Jason Witten,

0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>but like, I don't even think it's that tall of

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>a task, to be perfectly honest with you, Jason Witten

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 1>caught sixty three passes last year and finished with five

0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:25.720
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty nine yards. That's bad. That's that's not good.

0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:29.560
<v Speaker 1>That's that's eight yards per catch. Um. There, you know,

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the run after the catch wasn't there, The breaking tackles

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:36.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. Amber alluded to it. There were drops at

0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season, the particularly egregious one against Philadelphia.

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't nobody on the offense came to play that week.

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty obvious looking back at it. UM. I just

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>think I think Jarwin represents such a more dynamic option.

0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Like you go look at some of his best plays,

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:57.480
<v Speaker 1>His ability to shed tackles, his ability to get yards

0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:00.959
<v Speaker 1>after the catch. His touchdown against the Giants, he caught

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<v Speaker 1>the ball at like the twenty eight yard line and scored.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the last time Jason Witten did that? And again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no disrespect to him, but the guy is nearly forty.

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<v Speaker 1>He brings an incredible amount of savvy. He knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to get open, he knows how to use angles and

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<v Speaker 1>do all of that. But what do you do once

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<v Speaker 1>the ball is in your hand and in a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a day and age where space is everything in football?

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that's so important. Um. And is Jarwin

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<v Speaker 1>the best blocker in the world. Absolutely not. But Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Witten hasn't been an above average blocker. Probably in the

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<v Speaker 1>last four or five years of his Cowboy career, He's

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<v Speaker 1>been fine. Um, but a lot of that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's reputation more than production, in my opinion. So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>gladly take the loss in blocking ability for what I

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<v Speaker 1>think will be a drastic improvement that I'm don't say

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm calling it now. I am calling it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is going to have a fantastic year. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with that, and I'll say, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what right? I mean, I say, don't don't don't minimize,

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<v Speaker 1>don't minimize the ability for a tight end to get

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<v Speaker 1>in a three point stands and tell the tackle what

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Right. I can't. I can't imagine. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how many times with or any other event

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<v Speaker 1>that I played around with Ben wattson any guys like

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<v Speaker 1>that getting the three point stands and they see something

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<v Speaker 1>that the other officer alignement didn't see. Especially with this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this um was a musical chairs we're about to have

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<v Speaker 1>with the officer a ligne and have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to put their hand in the ground and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the move, this is the call right here,

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<v Speaker 1>we're changing this. Nope, we're not doing this block cheam,

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing this one now. And that's where I'm talking about. Physically,

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<v Speaker 1>Jarwin's way ahead of with listen, Like I said, what's

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<v Speaker 1>never been the physical specimen, but but mentally he was

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<v Speaker 1>leads and balances above almost everybody. That's totally the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we'll get to see us to whether he really

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<v Speaker 1>is yeah, yeah, see if he's really up to that

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<v Speaker 1>that test that that Jason Witten passed so much during

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<v Speaker 1>his career. All Right, we appreciate you guys joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be back at training camp, will be back

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