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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It was. It is Wednesday, June tenth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number thirteen. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We're alive from the virtual s WBC Mortgage studios in

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Speaker 1: each of our homes around the Metroplex. And today we

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Speaker 1: got a special guest joining us. Nick out here with us,

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Speaker 1: but we got Isaiah stand Back currently of another podcast

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Speaker 1: talking Cowboys that I'm sure you guys have hopefully been

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Speaker 1: checking out. But Isaiah, great to have you on. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. We also got my normal crew here,

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Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, David Hellman. We got a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: about today, and this is gonna be our final show

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Speaker 1: of the off season this year. We're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: little hiatus as we do every off season, in the

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Speaker 1: month of June and heading into July, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: kick things back up late July when we get into

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Speaker 1: training camp. How's everybody doing today? Doing good, Bro, I'm

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Speaker 1: goodat Derek, good to see you. You too, Man, you

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Speaker 1: too so out the last first time I've seen you

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Speaker 1: actually got to see you last week in person, which

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Speaker 1: was different. Dave and I both are at a protest

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Speaker 1: little time with Dave. And of course we were, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to keep your distance as we should right now,

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Speaker 1: I've gotten really good at like the elbow hello, you know, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: how's it going? Yeah, yeah, I think we all have

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Speaker 1: at this point. Let's let's jump right in. Um it's

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Speaker 1: it's I'll start with with a topic that seems to

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Speaker 1: at this point, as long as we've all been quarantined,

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Speaker 1: it's it's great news when we start hearing that that

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Speaker 1: as far as understanding and knowing the environment, but also

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Speaker 1: just growing chemistry between the coaching staff. It's it's very different,

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Speaker 1: able to have contact with one another at least, even

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Speaker 1: if it's at a distance, being able to see people's

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Speaker 1: faces as you're talking to me to them. How much

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Speaker 1: do you think that's affecting this coaching staff, which is

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably going to afect these guys a

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Speaker 1: As far as being in person, yes, obviously that's going

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Speaker 1: Like you can't go out there at two o'clock in

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Speaker 1: gonna give you a particular statistic or a couple of

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Speaker 1: statistics on each player that and then I'll ask you guys,

430
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Speaker 1: to tell me whether you think it will be over.

431
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: They'll be over or under that number in the twenty

432
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Speaker 1: twenty season. Let's mostly get Dak Prescott. Last season, his

433
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Speaker 1: numbers were up dramatically with yards to total yards. In

434
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Speaker 1: seventeen he was at three thousand, three hundred and twenty

435
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: four yards eighteen three eight hundred and eighty five yards,

436
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: and last year jumped all the way to four thousand,

437
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Speaker 1: nine hundred and two passing yards. First question I have

438
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Speaker 1: for you, guys is what do you think was the

439
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Speaker 1: biggest difference that you can pinpoint us to whist numbers

440
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 1: jumped so much last year from the previous year. Let's

441
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Speaker 1: start with you ember biggest difference. I think that having

442
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Speaker 1: John Kinna honestly helped him a lot, just having a

443
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Speaker 1: different coach and developing his skills. I think that once

444
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Speaker 1: they were able to figure out the whole wide receiver group,

445
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Speaker 1: you know, forget about the whole by community thing that

446
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: then we're trying now just having a set of wide receivers,

447
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: this is what we have, this is what we're doing.

448
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: And then allowing Dad to build that connection with them

449
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Speaker 1: and getting comfortable with them helped a lot. As far.

450
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Speaker 1: I mean, if we're looking at twenty twenty, is it

451
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Speaker 1: gonna be over under type of stuff. I want to

452
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Speaker 1: ask you this first, does it have him a deal

453
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Speaker 1: made or is it playing under the franchise? Well, I'll

454
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Speaker 1: ask you that question back. Do you think that his

455
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Speaker 1: deal has anything to do with how he will perform

456
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Speaker 1: this year? Well, I think that depending on what the

457
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Speaker 1: deal ends up being, whether he signs a multi year

458
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Speaker 1: deal or he plays under the franchise, it's gonna reflect

459
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Speaker 1: back on how he plays. Because every time we say

460
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Speaker 1: it all the time, when these guys get a big deal,

461
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: then that year it's like they don't end up performing

462
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Speaker 1: at the level that we expect them to perform in

463
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like I think that I want

464
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Speaker 1: to get my hopes up as far as him just

465
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Speaker 1: being better, especially under this new coaching staff, and then

466
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Speaker 1: having again the wide receivers hopefully developing even into something better,

467
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Gallop being a better player this year,

468
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: having Citee Lamb on the team and helping out in

469
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: that way as well, and Mary Cooper hopefully hopefully becoming

470
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Speaker 1: a more constant player that can help Dak and as

471
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Speaker 1: far as also the tight end position, Blake Jarwin. I

472
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Speaker 1: do expect him to do a lot better this year

473
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Speaker 1: because he's been evolving as well. So if all of

474
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Speaker 1: that is in place, I do expect Dak to be

475
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: able to play better, and hopefully they can this new

476
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Speaker 1: coaching staff is able to help him with his skills,

477
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Speaker 1: have him run more, get out of the pocket, be

478
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Speaker 1: more more physical, more active. Obviously you don't always want

479
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Speaker 1: that with a quarterback, but he does have the skill

480
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Speaker 1: and he can make it happen. Now we need to

481
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Speaker 1: see what happens on the pressure moment. I really don't

482
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Speaker 1: know if it's all because of Dak or the fact

483
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Speaker 1: that Jason Garrett was directing the team at the time,

484
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Speaker 1: because a lot of players, lot of people, I mean

485
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Speaker 1: a lot of fans. When they when you're discussing Nike Prescott,

486
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: they want to bring back oh Is he's not clutch.

487
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: He can't play at the last minute of those opposing

488
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Speaker 1: teams that you need to win the game from, you know.

489
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Speaker 1: So I just think that your voice, he's gonna be

490
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Speaker 1: able to play well this year. I thought I could

491
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Speaker 1: tell that you disagree with part of that Amblo was saying,

492
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Speaker 1: So I'll go to you next and talk a little

493
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Speaker 1: bit about that, specifically from the standpoint of whether the

494
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Speaker 1: deal will make a difference with regards to how he

495
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Speaker 1: plays this season. Absolutely, So I'm gonna no no, no disrespect,

496
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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell you to bring it. Let me

497
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: hear it, Let me hear it. There's two reasons why

498
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Speaker 1: he bawled out last year. Number one, it was time

499
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Speaker 1: to get paid, all right. When it's time to get paid,

500
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: your game steps up, right. You got a little bit

501
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: more juice in you, right because you know that you're

502
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: expecting that check and you have to perform because that

503
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Speaker 1: is the season that they're gonna look at. They're not

504
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: gonna look at the seasons before. They're looking at best

505
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Speaker 1: season leading up to that pay day. So that's a

506
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Speaker 1: all right. Our b is we were playing from behind

507
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Speaker 1: a lot, right. We didn't have a great season. We

508
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Speaker 1: did not have a great season. Right. The team did

509
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: not do that well. So when you when you're having

510
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: to force those points, right, what are you doing. You're

511
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: unable to run the ball. Right. When you're unable to

512
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Speaker 1: run the ball, you're unable to control the clock, which

513
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Speaker 1: means that you're playing for behind, which means you need

514
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Speaker 1: to throw the rock, right, So it allowed for those greater,

515
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Speaker 1: those bigger plays that allowed for him to throw the

516
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Speaker 1: ball substantially more than he did the prior did the

517
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Speaker 1: years before pre existing. So those are the two reasons

518
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Speaker 1: why I let I point to in terms of why

519
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: he performed that way last year, now in terms of

520
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: this year and what we can expect that of him

521
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Speaker 1: this year. To think about somebody like Kirk Cousins, right when,

522
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: who kept kept playing on dog on franchise tags. Right,

523
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: so you're gonna ball out if he's on a franchise tag.

524
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Speaker 1: He's gonna ball why because guess what, I can't afford

525
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Speaker 1: to get hurt, right, And I know then again it's

526
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: just like you're on a contract year again, right, So

527
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Speaker 1: when it's time to talk money again, I have to

528
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: ball out. Right, if he is underneath the contract, guess

529
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: what he's going to show out just because what because

530
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Speaker 1: I know everybody's looking at me now because they just

531
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Speaker 1: gave me all this money. But I understood. But with

532
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Speaker 1: that understood, I think that his numbers go down this year, right,

533
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Speaker 1: I think his numbers go down. So as we talk

534
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: about over Underdee, I think his numbers go down because

535
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to do as much. He doesn't need

536
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: to do as much. He has more people around him, right,

537
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: he has more weapons than he had last year, and

538
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: the defense is substantially better than it was last year.

539
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Speaker 1: So with that understood, these guys are gonna be in

540
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Speaker 1: a position to be able to run the ball substantially more.

541
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Speaker 1: I know we're getting the freaky Ezeki hearing a little bit,

542
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: but Zeke's gonna his numbers will definitely go up because

543
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: they were. They'll be trying to control the game and

544
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: control the clock, and they won't be forced to have

545
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Speaker 1: to throw the ball even though he does have more weapons.

546
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Speaker 1: But ye see on real quick to me, forget about

547
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: stats two minutes, can you hear me? Yeah? So sorry, sorry, sorry,

548
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: And just wanted to say this to me, forget forget

549
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: about stacks Like me, I don't look at stats that much.

550
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: I really don't care. I just look at the actual

551
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: performance and the field of the game and how they

552
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 1: we're doing in the game. To me, last year, in

553
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: my own perspective, I don't think that played that well.

554
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: He wasn't that great in my eyes. So that's why

555
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: I expect him to be better this year, regardless of

556
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: the situation. So that's I am saying this opinion based

557
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: off my own views of every single game and not stats.

558
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: Screw stats. I want them to win games. He needs

559
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: to win freaking games. At the end of two minute warning,

560
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: two minute warning, you need to make the pass and

561
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: make it happen. Sober Amber is going to represent the

562
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: eye test people for us on this show. That's good

563
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: to know. Like, don't mind what all of these numbers

564
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: say about how good the quarterback is. I will decide

565
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Speaker 1: how good he actually is. I'm glad will we've established,

566
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Speaker 1: but glad no. I completely agree. I completely agree with

567
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Speaker 1: Isaiah for whatever it's worth. Um, if Daks with five

568
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: thousand yards this year, they probably aren't that good of

569
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: a team, and they weren't that good of a team

570
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: last year. He's absolutely right. Go look at most of

571
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Dak's gaudiest games. They were behind, they fell down. They

572
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: fell behind by three scores. Against Green Bay, you have

573
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: to throw your way out of it. They were down

574
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: whatever it was, twenty four to seven against Buffalo, Chicago

575
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: built up a big lead. These are all games where

576
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: he went over three hundred green Bay. I think he

577
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: threw for four to forty and the other thing seven times.

578
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Speaker 1: Last year as a team, the Cowboys failed to average

579
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: four yards per carry seven times. And that is not

580
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: an indictment on Zeke Elliott or the Cowboys offensive line.

581
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: It's an indictment on their coaching staff for being very boring,

582
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: very uncreative, rushing up the gut on first and ten

583
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: and second and long all of the time. You know,

584
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: I'll talk about it till I'm blew in the face.

585
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: The Vikings could do nothing with Dak Prescott in that

586
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: game last year. They could not stop him, and the

587
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys ran on first down seventy eight percent of the

588
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: time anyway, because their coaches were either bored or scared,

589
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't know which, but it's unforgivable. Um. And they

590
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: can't afford to do that. They've got to use their

591
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: running game more creatively. They got to utilize play action better. Um.

592
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: But you can do all of that. And like I said,

593
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean if that, if Dak is flirting with five

594
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: thousand yards, then they're not balanced enough to be successful. Um.

595
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't remember the original question. Hopefully

596
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: it's under Hopefully Dak throws for like forty two hundred.

597
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: Forty two hundred feels like a sweet spot to me.

598
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: I like it. All right, So we got we got

599
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Speaker 1: basically three unders. Is that right, Amber, Were you under

600
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: as well? No? Said no, I said over because to me, well,

601
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: it's a it's sorry, just keep going. This is the way.

602
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: The point is, I don't look at stats. I just

603
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: wanted I want to see him play. Well, don't give

604
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: me stats. He to me can do better this year

605
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: and be under those stats, you know. So that's the thing.

606
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: To me, it's like, I think he will be better

607
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: this year. He might not go over those kinds of stats,

608
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: but he might be better this year overall better. You

609
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: don't like my game? Yeah? Yeah? And Amy throws for

610
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: five hundred yards and we go, we go, you know,

611
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: thirteen and three. We're good. We're good. Yeah, that's so,

612
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: that's so lazy. I'm sorry. Okay, that's okay, all right,

613
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Moving on a right, let's go. Let's go to Zeke Elliott.

614
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: Last year, the stat that stuck out to me was

615
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: his receptions number. And I remember when he first got here.

616
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: One of the things that that we were so disappointed

617
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: in his first year was that they really didn't use

618
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: him in the passing game. He had thirty two catches

619
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: his first year twenty six and his second year. By

620
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: his third year he jumped to seventy seven, and last

621
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: year he at fifty four. UM, So my question for

622
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: you is off that level where he was last year

623
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: fifty four receptions, do you think they were utilizing him

624
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: enough in the passing game or do you think they

625
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: should be doing more there? That's all with you, guys, YEA, yeah,

626
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the Yeah. I think I think he

627
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: falls right and back into the same conversation we just

628
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: had right in terms of some of the situations that

629
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: they were forced into, Right, they were forced to throw

630
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: the ball to get back into games. And I don't

631
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: think that you want to be I don't think that

632
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: you want to talk about Zeke and the mindset that

633
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: that you want to throw him the ball, right, That's

634
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 1: that's not the conversation that you want to have when

635
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: we're when you're referencing Zeke. You want to be able

636
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: to do what we did a couple of years ago

637
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: and just hand the ball to Zeke and just know

638
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: that hey, he's coming at you down here, and it

639
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: really doesn't matter what you do on the other side

640
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: of the ball. We're going four or five yards a pop. Right,

641
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: that's the conversation you want with Zeke. You want to

642
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: take the conversation as far as passing to polar Right,

643
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: that's the person you want to be talking about. So

644
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: Ken Zeke catch? Absolutely, should Zeke be catching? You know,

645
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: seventy passes per year? Heck to the note, that's not

646
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: what you want. You want him toting that rock. You

647
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: want him consistently rushing for one hundred yards of a game.

648
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: You want the office a linement feeling like their bullies

649
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: out there and let those other three receivers and been

650
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: drawing do what they do because we have enough weapons

651
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: now for guys that can catch the rock. Harmon, Yeah,

652
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, if you listen to this show for

653
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: any length of time, you know that I've whined about

654
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: Zeke's lack of a role in the passing game for years,

655
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: and honestly, a lot of that is creativity. Again going

656
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: back to the coaches, because Zeke caught seventy seven passes

657
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: I think in twenty eighteen, like he caught a lot

658
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: of balls, but it was all it was dump offs

659
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: and boring stuff like not getting into the open field,

660
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: not getting downfield, not a very creative way to utilize

661
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: your running back. Having said all of this, I again

662
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: agree with Isaiah because I don't want Zeke catching targets

663
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: that should be going to Ceedee Lamb, Blank Jarwin or

664
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: even Tony Follard, Like get get those guys involved. And

665
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: if you have to put two backs on the field

666
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: on occasion to make it work, that's fine. I really again,

667
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: I'll use the term sweet spot. Like for Zeke, I'm

668
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: thinking between twenty five and thirty five catches is plenty

669
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: for him, Like, you don't need to take any more

670
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: targets away from better receiving options. And it's it's not

671
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: that he's bad, he's a fine receiver, but there are

672
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: better receivers who could take those target options. Yeah, Camber,

673
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't have much to add to what you guys said.

674
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm right on with you guys. I just think that

675
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: they do need to do it enough to where it

676
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: does keep that element for defenses to kind of keep

677
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: an eye on and be aware that they can do

678
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: that with Zeke and that he can be utilized that

679
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: way and just kind of keep defenses on their toes,

680
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: but with all these other receiving guys, they just find

681
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: the right balance for him. And Zeke is such a

682
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: great runner, and I do want them to utilize him

683
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: more in the running game together with Tony Poller. So yeah,

684
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: I think the spot that Dave said, that sweet spot

685
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: right there kind of works for me as well. Sounds

686
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: like everybody's on the under on that under fifty four

687
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: catches for Zeke Elliot. Let's move on to Amari Cooper.

688
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, it was his best statistical year of

689
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: his career in almost every category. He had seventy nine receptions,

690
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: eleven hundred and eighty nine yards, and he had eight touchdowns.

691
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: So my question for you guys is can he maintain

692
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: that type of production after they've added a guy like

693
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and by the way, a Michael Gallup who

694
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: seems to be improving every year. Do you expect him

695
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: to be able to maintain those numbers in twenty twenty.

696
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: Let's start with Dave. So here's the thing. I actually,

697
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: for our TV show The Blitz a couple of weeks ago,

698
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: I really looked at the math of like how you

699
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: can divvy up all of these targets. And I mean

700
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: over the course of his career, whether it was dead,

701
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: whether it was a Mari, Dak has done a pretty

702
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: good job at getting his number one receiver targets. Like

703
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to imagine Amar having less than

704
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: let's say, seventy five eighty catches, and that's not a

705
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: lot by number one receiver standards. I get that because

706
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: you know number one receivers. You know what, Mike Thomas

707
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: caught like two hundred passes last year. Mike Thomas doesn't

708
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: have nearly as many options on his offense as as

709
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: a Mark Cooper does. And that's you know, I'll go

710
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: with ag for a set because I think people get

711
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: so fixated on catches. I don't care as long as

712
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: the offense is producing. And that's what That's what Dak

713
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: has said the whole time he's been heres, like I

714
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: want to throw to the open guy. Well between a

715
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: Mari gallop now Ceedee Lamb again, Jarwin and then the

716
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: running backs, somebody's gonna be open all the time. So

717
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't need a Mari to like catch one hundred balls,

718
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: but I do think he'll probably you know, it'll be

719
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: somewhere between seventy five and eighty five, and that's perfectly fine.

720
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that at all, because

721
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: if Dak's doing his job the right way, he'll be

722
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: divvying everything else up among everyone else. Amber Well, I

723
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: expect it to be pretty similar to last year. And

724
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: just because going back to what I remember, all those

725
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: away games, he was terrible. He just completely disappeared. So

726
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: if you take that in and you balance it out

727
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, now he's playing better on the road,

728
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: and then now he's not as great at home, you know,

729
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: that creates some kind of balance there when it comes

730
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: to his stats. So I expected to be kind of

731
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: similar if he's able to play better on the road,

732
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: all right. You know that actually brings up an interesting point, Isaiah,

733
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: that I want to ask you, because you came to

734
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: the NFL as a quarterback, you spend some time at receiver.

735
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: I'd got to hear from you specifically on how much

736
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: can being on the road affect or what are the

737
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: things that on the road can affect a wide receiver

738
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: or was this just a situation where just for whatever reason,

739
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: whether it was just he played better teams that knew

740
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: how to how to cover him on the road, and

741
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: I was just half stance, like, what do you what

742
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: do you attribute all that too as being a guy

743
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: that's actually played receiver in the NFL? Yeah, And that

744
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: was just one of those things. It was just one

745
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: of those flings. Man. Unfortunately he didn't perform that well

746
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: on the road. It happens. Some guys don't perform that

747
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: well at home, right I think. I mean, I remember thinking,

748
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: I remember the Cowboys not doing so well at home

749
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: at some point in time. But they want away games, right,

750
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: So it is what it is. Man. There's there's nothing

751
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: that people can point to and say, oh, this is why.

752
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's something that's in the back of his head.

753
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, as as an athlete,

754
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: as a player, you know, hey, I just didn't do

755
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: that well. I just gotta figure it out, right, I

756
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: can't have these ups and downs you need. I'd rather

757
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: be consistent. Didn't have all these spikes, right, these different valleys.

758
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: So um. But in terms of you know, do we

759
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: want Coop you know, doing what he did last year?

760
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: Heck to the no, you don't want him doing well

761
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: he did last year, right, you don't. He doesn't have

762
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: to anymore. Right, Yes, he has a one hundred million dollars, right,

763
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: but you're paying him one hundred million dollars for those

764
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: couple plays a game that he actually shows out. You

765
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: don't need him showing out the whole game, right, you

766
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: just you don't. He's not Julio. He's not Julio. Let's

767
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: let's just be real, right, He's not Julio. He's not

768
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: He's not you know, he's not. He's not Od, he's

769
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: not any of those guys. Right, So you don't rely

770
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to rely on Coop to be this

771
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: this magnificent. Just just you know, a guy who can

772
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: route up anybody. Coop is a is a D threat,

773
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: That's what he is. Coop's a D threat, right, and

774
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: he has that gold ue. He could run an end route,

775
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: he could run a post, he could run a goal, right,

776
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: and you want him to be able to continue to

777
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: do that. And you want to be able to run

778
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: the ball enough right where those safeties start trying to

779
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: creep down. You want to be able to throw the

780
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: ball to Jar one and CD and gallop enough underneath coverage, right,

781
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 1: so those guys start creeping up, and then what you want,

782
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: you want Coop to have five receptions for like one

783
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: twenty five in a tub. That's what you want Coop

784
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: to do, right, And one of those places gonna be

785
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: a sixty to seventy yard play, right, So four of

786
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: those other catches you're gonna be you know, within you know,

787
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: five to six, seven, eight yards. That's what you want

788
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: Coop to do. You want him just get those Okay,

789
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: third down play got you, Third down play got you,

790
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: and then boom, big play. That's why you pay him

791
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. You don't need him putting up

792
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: those numbers like he did last time, because this should

793
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: be a substantially more well balanced offense than it's ever been.

794
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was let's going to just

795
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: real quick. It's kind of what I was getting at

796
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: is like I can just I can imagine. You know,

797
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: six weeks into the season, people are like, oh my god,

798
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are paying Amari twenty million a year and

799
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: he's only done this as long as as long as

800
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: the offense is humming. I don't care. Like you're paying

801
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, you're paying him to make plays. You're also

802
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: paying him to open up the field for everybody else, Right, Like,

803
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: if the opposing defense it's committed to slowing him down

804
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: and he has a bad day, but Ceedee Lamb or

805
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup or both of them are just killing everybody.

806
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't care. And I feel like people get fixated

807
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: on the money and feel like you got to have

808
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: one hundred yard day every week if you're making that

809
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: much money. I'm sorry about your fantasy football team, but

810
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: I do not care. If the offense is balanced and humming,

811
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: Amari can do whatever the hell he wants to. Yeah,

812
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: and that's a great point day because we've seen it

813
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: so many times around here with the Cowboys, and it

814
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: probably happens all around the league. One player player plays

815
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: the exact same way, but as soon as that check

816
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: comes in, fans have a different expectation of them, and

817
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: I would suspect this year it's probably going to be

818
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: that way for for him. If Dad gets a new deal,

819
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna be best believed, they're gonna be different expectations,

820
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: at least from fans. And the good thing for the

821
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys is that Amari Cooper doesn't see them to be

822
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that's affected by what other people think. So,

823
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: he's not the kind of guy that seems to be

824
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: deterred there where some guys do get in their head

825
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: and then they start pressing and they start pushing to

826
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: get more opportunities because they feel like they gotta quiet

827
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: the people that are the detractors. But let's go and

828
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back, I'll have

829
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: a well, Dave, I'm sorry, I just Amari. Amari is

830
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: not that guy. He never has been. A week two

831
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: last year, they he caught five balls for forty yards.

832
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: They won easily, and he was the happiest guy in

833
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: the locker room. Um. And and that's that's exactly what

834
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: you need. Um. There's only like two receivers in the

835
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: league who catch ten balls for one hundred yards every week,

836
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: and it's like it's Hopkins and Julio. And it's not

837
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: a big deal if Amary can't match that, I'm not

838
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: worried about it. And I just thought about the fact

839
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: that Hopkins got traded for basically a bag of ms.

840
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, let's not get into that bottle break. We'll

841
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: come back. We'll come back, and we got a few

842
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: more guys we're gonna talk about cdlaw On, Michael Galla,

843
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Speaker 1: Blake Jawin, and Tony Polla. We do have when we

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, final segment of the Break. We're live from

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Speaker 1: the virtual SWBC Mortgage studios and we're going through our

881
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Speaker 1: game of Over and Under. We're talking about the offensive

882
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: skill position for the Cowboy positions for the Cowboys. We're

883
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna go to Cede Lamb next. And this last year

884
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: I looked at Randall Cobb's numbers because obviously he was

885
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: the third receiver. Last year, CD is projected to be

886
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: one of three. Who knows where he'll fall in that line,

887
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: but Randall Cobb at fifty five receptions, eight hundred twenty

888
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: eight yards and three touchdowns. My question for you, guys,

889
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: is this CD good enough right now to step in

890
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: and be as productive as a veteran like Randall Cobb.

891
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: Let's start with you guys. Are that's that's a heck

892
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: of a question right there. Dum is he good enough

893
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: right now? We don't know, We don't know. Um. College

894
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: is one thing. NFL as a whole another beast, right

895
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: and where we're everybody's projecting him to be right as

896
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: we possibly taking over that slot position, and that slot

897
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: position you gotta be. You gotta have enough tenacious um,

898
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, attitude, gotta have a little nasty to you

899
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: to be able to go in there and dig out

900
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: those safeties and hit some linebackers and you know those

901
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: things or those that willingness is going to open up

902
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: opportunities for you. So I am interested and I'm intrigued

903
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: to see how he performs once he touches the field.

904
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: Another thing is how well he picks up this offense. Right.

905
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: There's you know, when you when you have a guy

906
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: that comes in, if he could pick up the offense,

907
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: and you have three guys out there that know exactly

908
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: what every position does, and you can do whatever you want.

909
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: As an office of coordinator, you're gonna have a field dame,

910
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: and then you can force guys open. Right, you can

911
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: just get guys open. So if he's if he doesn't

912
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: have that ability to come in and pick that up,

913
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: then he's going to be limited. So you know, in

914
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: four or five rounds, right, and then we really don't

915
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: know how productive he'll be. But um, in terms of

916
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: talent wise, he has all the skill sets that you need,

917
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: all the everything, every box that you want to check

918
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: off for somebody that's going to come in and play

919
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: that potential role. He has the skills. He's just really

920
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: a matter of how fast he can really come in

921
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: and take on and adapt to this system. One thing

922
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: I'll say is I'm very interested to see once we

923
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: get to training camp if the Cowboys use him as

924
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: exclusively in that slot role as they give in Randall Randall,

925
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: or if they decide that they're gonna between because by

926
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: the way, you know, they got Amark Cooper, he knows

927
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: how to work in the slot as well. I'm interested

928
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: to see are they gonna have are they gonna try

929
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: to create a situation with these receivers where all three

930
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: can maybe play all three spots and then you're you're

931
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: sliding guys around. That makes it very, very difficult for

932
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: defense is to account for guys and to be able to,

933
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, try with guys and do some of the

934
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: things that last year they were able to do in

935
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: some games where they were able to shut Amari Cooper down.

936
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: But let's go on, Amber, let's go to you next.

937
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to be able to be

938
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: as good as Randall Cobb in year one? Well, again,

939
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell for rookie in the first year.

940
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: Obviously we haven't even seen a single practice or anything yet.

941
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: But one thing that I do think will help him

942
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: a lot. It's his high, especially at the slop position,

943
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: compared to Randall cob I was just looking up his

944
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: high Randall. It's five ten, Ceedee Lamb is six two,

945
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: so I think what you well, okay moment, let me

946
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: keep going with Sidney Lamb in his and being at

947
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: six two, that's definitely I mean, just by default being taller,

948
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna help you in the game, just help you

949
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: with catching balls hopefully, and just Dak having a better

950
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: target hit wise, and Beam being able to find the guy.

951
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: So that's the only thing I can think of that

952
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: it's beneficial at the position comparing to Randall Cop last year.

953
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: But you just never know how howard rookie is going

954
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: to do him the first year, so I don't know

955
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: what's going to happen for sure. But I didn't come

956
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: this far to come this far, you know what I mean?

957
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: Like I didn't drive the draft a receiver at seventeen

958
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: bandwagon for three months and then like hop off now

959
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna hop off now that football is

960
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: getting close. Yes, I think he can be better than

961
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: Randall Cop. I think he's got NFC Offensive Rookie of

962
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: the Year. Do they do one for NFC and AFC

963
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: or is it just the NFL? I don't remember. He's

964
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: got Offensive Rookie of the Year potentials. It's it's gonna

965
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: be hard for him to beat the quarterbacks, you know, Burrow,

966
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: maybe too whatever, but he should be in the conversation.

967
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: Like I said, I did. I did the math on

968
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks ago, and I mean it's

969
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: hard to it's hard to phase out all of the variables.

970
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: But I think his absolute ceiling, I mean, excuse me floor,

971
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: his absolute floor is like thirty five catches like that

972
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: is the baseline, and I think he could get as

973
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: high as like seventy throw in potential for punt returns,

974
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: that's probably another twenty twenty five touches on the season.

975
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: I think he's got serious potential to do a lot

976
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: of damage. Yes, I mean, like I said, I know,

977
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of unknowns, but I think he can

978
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: be better than Randall conn right away for sure. Indeed,

979
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: to your point, just to pickyback off, what you said

980
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: about the guys being able to come in and learn

981
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: the offense, to be able to play different positions, it

982
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of what I was playing with

983
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: New England. Right when I was playing with the Patriots.

984
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: There's no player on the Patriots plays one position. You know,

985
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: Previously Tom Brady, that's the only person that played one position.

986
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Other than that, you played multiple positions. So you know myself,

987
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: Randy Moss, you know Wes Welker, Joey Galloway, you know,

988
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: we had all these guys and you have you were

989
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: one player, you're outside, one player, you're totally on the

990
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: opposite end. One player you're in the slot, right, And

991
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: that ability for to give the officer coordinator is that

992
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: flexibility to create those mismatches, to be able to line

993
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: you up inside and bring a motion down inside and

994
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: you have to go out. They're all kind of different

995
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: ways in which you can release. It messes with the

996
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: defense and if he can pick it up, man, this

997
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: whole of this whole receiving corp is going to be

998
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: is gonna be nasty. Yeah. This one of the things

999
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: that I actually loved about drafting a CD Lamb is

1000
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: that I do think when you look at it, Randall

1001
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: cop although he could play on the outside, I thought

1002
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: he was a much better receiver in the slot. If

1003
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: you can get receivers that really can do it equally

1004
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: well playing outside and playing in the slot, it just

1005
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: gives you so many more advantages. And so I'm interested

1006
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: to see when we get the training camp how quickly

1007
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: picks up the offense, because that will be a part

1008
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: of it. You know, picking up one position is one thing.

1009
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: Picking up a second position or a third position is

1010
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: a whole different thing. So it'll be a lot about

1011
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: how well he can pick it up, how fast he

1012
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: can pick it up, and how effective he can be

1013
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: at all those different positions. Getting ready for the season.

1014
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: Let's move on to Michael Gallup. Last season, he had

1015
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: sixty sixty six receptions, eleven hundred and seven yards, six touchdowns.

1016
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: Is he good enough to be the number two option

1017
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: on this team ahead of c. D Lamb? He's he

1018
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: going to continue to be the number two option on

1019
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: this team? Or do you think that CD is going

1020
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: to kind of push him out a little bit based

1021
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: upon what you know of CD and his ability level.

1022
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: Let's start with you, Dave. I don't I mean, maybe

1023
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: this is a cop out. I don't like to think

1024
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: of it as like number one, two and three, like

1025
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Michael Gallup is going to keep

1026
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: his job on the outside. I think CD Lamb is

1027
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: going you know, when it's all said and done, they're

1028
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: gonna have like a thousand offensive snaps. I think CD

1029
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: will play most of those in the slot. You know,

1030
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: he'll do a little bit of everything, but like it'll

1031
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: be sixty seventy percent in the slot if I had

1032
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: to guess, So, I mean, Gallup technically is still your

1033
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: number two receiver. I think his numbers will go up.

1034
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think if he caught six

1035
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: six balls last year, I think he's got the potential

1036
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: for seventy or more. But you know, I don't think

1037
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: CD's gonna like take quote unquote take his job because

1038
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: I think it all intermingles. Like you said, hopefully, it's

1039
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: three guys that are all moving into three different positions

1040
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: on a somewhat regular basis. That's what I would love

1041
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: to see. So I don't really like looking at it

1042
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: in terms of a pecking order. Amber Well, you know what,

1043
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: We're not gonna get to it. But one of the

1044
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: questions that I have from fans was asking, how do

1045
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: you get these receivers to get better at catching the ball?

1046
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: We saw them struggle last year where you saw them

1047
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: dropping the ball many many times. And I think that again,

1048
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: maybe Isaiah, you can speak about that. I don't know

1049
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: how you get better at catching a simple a ball

1050
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: that it's coming towards you. But I think that because

1051
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: of the experience and just him coming back for is

1052
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: it fourth year now or three? This is his third

1053
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: year Gallup, right, third Gallup, third year. I mean, we've

1054
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: seen him just getting better and better every year, so

1055
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: I think that his numbers should be able to go up.

1056
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: But he just he just needs to clean up his

1057
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: game a little bit more and he can be so so,

1058
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: so so much better. A yeah to hit on both points,

1059
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: d I agree with you on the whole pecking order thing.

1060
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: We obviously know who number one is simply because his

1061
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: check defines number one. So but as far as the

1062
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: two A to B, I don't think it really matters.

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00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: I think you know, I think you're gonna be surprised

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00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: at how much you probably see Gallup in the slot.

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00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: If I was off as a coordinator simply because of

1066
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: his speed, right, the ability if you put him at

1067
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: Cooper on the same side, and now all of a

1068
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: sudden that that single safety or whatever, whether they're too high,

1069
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: and that's say they're cheating to that one side safety.

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00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: They're working out one safety either way, single high or

1071
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: too high they're going to cause problems and he can

1072
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: get on that safety quick fast and her. So they

1073
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: got to make a decision whether they want to stick

1074
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: him or whether they want to stick Coop if they

1075
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: put them on the same side, right, So I think

1076
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be surprising how often you see him on

1077
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: the inside. But again, him and CD, they should be

1078
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: very much interchangeable and it should be an attacked by committee, right,

1079
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: Hopefully that's what we're all asking for. That's all. That's

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00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: a hooper, that's what we're all assuming. But in terms

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00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: of the whole catching portion amer that she touched on,

1082
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I hate to take shots, man,

1083
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: but you know, Dak wasn't the most accurate cat in

1084
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: the world in the first part of the season. You know,

1085
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: he had a lot of balls that were thrown behind receivers.

1086
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: He had a lot of balls that had too much

1087
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: velocity on them. So there's a lot of things that

1088
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: play a part in receivers ability to be able to

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00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: catch the ball and do they need it. The general

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00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: rule is if it touches your hand, you catch it. Okay,

1091
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: that's what that's old school, right, But the reality is

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00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other factors. You know, the ball

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00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: being in front of me versus the ball being on

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00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: my back shoulder. It creates a problem, right, it creates

1095
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: a huge problem. So even though I touched it, even

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00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: though it touched my body, it's still a very difficult catch.

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00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: And everybody's gonna say, well, you're getting paid enough money

1098
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: to catch it. It's still a difficult catch. Right. There's

1099
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: a grown man, there's a girl man pulling on me.

1100
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: There's a ball that's coming hot, is behind me. My

1101
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: body's going this way, so it's difficult. Guys are going

1102
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: to continue to work on their hands like they always do.

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00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: They'll get on the on the jug machine or whatever

1104
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: they're utilizing, and they'll get their catches in um. But

1105
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: you know it's not just on them. Dad has to

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00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: throw a more catchable ball as well. All right, let's

1107
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: move to the tight end position quickly. Blake Jarwin Jason

1108
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: Witten actually the last season had sixty three catches, five

1109
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine yards, four touchdowns. Now Blake last

1110
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: season had thirty one catches, three hundred and sixty five

1111
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. The question is, is Blake good

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00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: enough to be better than nineteen with that sixty three receptions,

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00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty nine yards at four touchdowns, You

1114
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: should you should, probably should, you should just probably just

1115
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: say the stats. You shouldn't just say. You shouldn't say

1116
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: better than when it's no, probably no, no, actually actually yes,

1117
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: to be clear, just to be clear. And I stay

1118
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: at that question like that specifically because I'm talking in

1119
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: all fast it's not necessarily the leadership part. Let's leave

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00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: that part out. But in all fastests blocking and being

1121
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: able to go down, feel, get open, make catches, score

1122
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: all those things? Is he a better Is he going

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00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: to be able to be a better all around tight

1124
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: end than Jason Witton was in twenty nineteen? Let's start

1125
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: with you guys. Yeah, I know we're talking about the goat.

1126
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's blasphemous. Goat. How old is

1127
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: with thirty eight thirty nine? Some run there? I think

1128
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: he turned thirty Yeah, one of one of those. Okay,

1129
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: so it could he has the potential, we like to

1130
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: use that word, he has the potential to be better

1131
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: than a wit. But it with stats last year, a

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00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: thirty eight thirty eight year old wit? Um, why are

1133
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: you thanking so much? This is a sick. It's a

1134
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: trick question. Do you think he's slick on this one? Um,

1135
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: it's not a trick question answering. No, There's there's so

1136
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: much that comes with being a vent. You know, you

1137
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: talk about the top tight ends every right, what's in

1138
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: that conversation for top five? Right? So he's so savvy

1139
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 1: and his ability to find the niches in the defense,

1140
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: that's what creates opportunities. It wasn't It never was witch

1141
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: physical stature or his physical skill set that just got

1142
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: him open. It was his savvy nous. Right. So if Jarwin,

1143
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: if he could figure that out, didn't hick. Guess if

1144
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: he can't figure that out and figure out, you know,

1145
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: watching the film study to find those holes in the defenses,

1146
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: and watch old Witt and watch Gonzalez and some of

1147
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: these other old school casts, then I don't see it happening,

1148
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: especially with all these weapons. But he should have substantially

1149
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: more one on one matchups than any of the anybody

1150
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: in recent history has had. Yeah, that's an interesting point

1151
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: because if you think about Jason Witt, and there were

1152
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: certain moments in games, particularly third down, where teams would

1153
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: try to take him out. I don't think Blake Jarwin

1154
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: is going to be facing that this year. I don't

1155
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: think with all the other offensive weapons. I think a

1156
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: lot of times he's gonna be facing one guy and

1157
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: it's probably not gonna be if its own coverage is

1158
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: probably not gonna be bracket coverage. He's probably gonna be

1159
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 1: in a situation where he has opportunities to get open,

1160
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: and so we're gonna get to see You're right, We're

1161
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: gonna get to see how savvy he can be. Amber

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00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: you answer the question, I think again, no one can

1163
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: take away everything that Witten has done for the Cowboys. Okay,

1164
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: that's a fact. Great now compared to what he last year,

1165
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: I have to say, I mean, he went and did

1166
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: not look like himself last year. He was going downhill

1167
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: a little bit, and he was getting slower. He was

1168
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: dropping balls things that you you are not used to seeing.

1169
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: We're in do he was doing now. Blake jar Went

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00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: on the other hand, I feel like he does for

1171
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: sure have the potential to keep going upwards. We've seen

1172
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: it every time he was able to get more playing time.

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00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: We saw it two years ago, the how his game

1174
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: just kept getting better the more he was on the field.

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00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: He just needs to get more chances, more opportunities of

1176
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: being out there on the field, getting more comfortable, just

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00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: having more time to kind of get loose throughout the

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00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: game and making the plays that he needs to make.

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00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: But I definitely think he can have a better year

1180
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: this year and possibly even match what those numbers that

1181
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Witten guy last year. Hey, I'd

1182
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: say this with a tremendous amount of respect for Jason Witten,

1183
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: but like, I don't even think it's that tall of

1184
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: a task, to be perfectly honest with you, Jason Witten

1185
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: caught sixty three passes last year and finished with five

1186
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine yards. That's bad. That's that's not good.

1187
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: That's that's eight yards per catch. Um. There, you know,

1188
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: the run after the catch wasn't there, The breaking tackles

1189
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Amber alluded to it. There were drops at

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00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: the end of the season, the particularly egregious one against Philadelphia.

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00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't nobody on the offense came to play that week.

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00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious looking back at it. UM. I just

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00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: think I think Jarwin represents such a more dynamic option.

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00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: Like you go look at some of his best plays,

1195
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: His ability to shed tackles, his ability to get yards

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00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 1: after the catch. His touchdown against the Giants, he caught

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01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: the ball at like the twenty eight yard line and scored.

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01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: When was the last time Jason Witten did that? And again,

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Speaker 1: it's no disrespect to him, but the guy is nearly forty.

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01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: He brings an incredible amount of savvy. He knows how

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01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: to get open, he knows how to use angles and

1202
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: do all of that. But what do you do once

1203
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: the ball is in your hand and in a you know,

1204
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: in a day and age where space is everything in football?

1205
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: I just think that's so important. Um. And is Jarwin

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01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: the best blocker in the world. Absolutely not. But Jason

1207
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: Witten hasn't been an above average blocker. Probably in the

1208
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 1: last four or five years of his Cowboy career, He's

1209
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: been fine. Um, but a lot of that, you know,

1210
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: that's reputation more than production, in my opinion. So I'll

1211
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: gladly take the loss in blocking ability for what I

1212
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: think will be a drastic improvement that I'm don't say

1213
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: that I'm calling it now. I am calling it now.

1214
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: Is going to have a fantastic year. I don't know.

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01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, and I'll say, this is

1216
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: what right? I mean, I say, don't don't don't minimize,

1217
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: don't minimize the ability for a tight end to get

1218
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: in a three point stands and tell the tackle what

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01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: to do. Right. I can't. I can't imagine. I can't

1220
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 1: tell you how many times with or any other event

1221
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: that I played around with Ben wattson any guys like

1222
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: that getting the three point stands and they see something

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01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: that the other officer alignement didn't see. Especially with this, uh,

1224
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: this um was a musical chairs we're about to have

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01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: with the officer a ligne and have the ability to

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01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: be able to put their hand in the ground and say, hey,

1227
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: this is the move, this is the call right here,

1228
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: we're changing this. Nope, we're not doing this block cheam,

1229
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: We're doing this one now. And that's where I'm talking about. Physically,

1230
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 1: Jarwin's way ahead of with listen, Like I said, what's

1231
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: never been the physical specimen, but but mentally he was

1232
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: leads and balances above almost everybody. That's totally the fact

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01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: that we'll get to see us to whether he really

1234
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: is yeah, yeah, see if he's really up to that

1235
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: that test that that Jason Witten passed so much during

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01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: his career. All Right, we appreciate you guys joining us.

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01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: We will be back at training camp, will be back

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01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: in July, and we appreciate you guys taking the time

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01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: with us this offseason, particularly during this quarantine. I know

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01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: it hasn't always been perfect. The audio is not always great,

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01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: and sometimes our look isn't perfect, but we do appreciate

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01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: the fact that you guys take time with us and

1243
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: spend some time with us to talk some Cowboys football.

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01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: I want to say special thanks to our producer Chris

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Speaker 1: Beam and until training camp for Ambergar Sea Isaiah stand back,

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