WEBVTT - Konnor Griffin to IL, Mailbag Trade Targets 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:10.879 What's up, everybody. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.840 Welcome back to another episode of Bucko Territory, presented to 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:15.240 you by the Foul Territory Network. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:15.920 I'm Noah Hiles. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.920 Joining me as always are my co hosts, Josh Harrison 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.400 and Platinum Key aka Mark. It is Wednesday, It's a 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:26.960 mailbag Wednesday. We actually already recorded our mail bag show, 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.200 I'm coming to you live Tuesday evening from PNC Park. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.720 I believe it's like the Seventh Inning where we have 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.400 to redo the intro of the show because not long 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.839 after we recorded, the news became officially Connor Griffin is 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.000 going to head on the IL for eight to ten 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:47.279 weeks with a finger injury ligament in his finger, his 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.400 ring finger on his left hand. That's gonna require some 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.040 time in a splint. So he's basically going to be 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.360 out for the long haul all the way into September, 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.360 which is a big injury for the Pittsburgh Pirates. And 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.040 after ordering a mailbag episode where we took your ideas 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.400 for trade candidates, it kind of felt silly because guys, 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:10.560 let's call spade a spade, this really alters their needs 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.480 at the deadline. So I'll just open up the floor. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.319 We'll actually just start off with Josh. Here, Josh, I'll 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.760 ask you. I mean all three players that we talk 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.160 about later in the show, which we'll get to after 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:21.160 this segment. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.800 Our relief pitchers. Is the bullpen still their main need? 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:26.920 Or when you look at this team now without its 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.319 star shortstop, is filling that void up the middle now 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.520 the top priority as they head into the deadline? 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:38.440 Filling that void is definitely top priority. You're talking shortstop. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.720 That's middle the diamond, most important position out there besides 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:45.440 the catcher that's supposed to, you know, hold things down. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.400 And we talked about it this year. It was six 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.280 or seven games before he was called up to be 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.840 that guy. So with knowing that your guys down, you 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.600 have to find a way to you know, try to 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:01.560 weather the storm fill his spot. Obviously, you know this 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.440 is a position. This is a guy that means a 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.880 lot to this team, and I don't think they're in 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:05.520 a position that. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.480 They are without him. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.040 And in an episode earlier day, I spoke about being 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.360 able to catch the ball because our infield is one 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.079 of our strong points on defense. It instantly just took 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.000 a big hit and you have to address it because 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.520 even if it's eight to ten weeks. That eight to 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.400 ten weeks is if he as far as like, how 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.800 healthy he's gonna be, how good he's gonna be looking 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.720 at my injuries are nothing to play with. I know 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.880 a little bit about something. I tore the ligament in 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.720 my thumb and I made it back, you know, a 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.760 little bit before time. But that wasn't to go without 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.680 saying that. We were also in a playoff hunt twenty fifteen. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:44.359 It was our third year in road going for so 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.640 a little different situation as to why I rushed back. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.000 But I'll tell you hand, injuries are a little funky 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.200 to deal with. So they're gonna have to replace him 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.720 because I don't think you want to rush your twenty 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.800 year old, you know, face of the franchise for something 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.080 that may be a possibility for September. So they're going 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.040 to do everything diligently to have them ready. But if 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:10.600 it doesn't make sense, I don't think you know, they're 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.440 not in the position to really push him like that, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:13.880 So you have to address it. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.000 Mark before you weigh in. I just want to get 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:17.440 your thoughts. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.000 I mean, I'm sure you're on the same wavelength with 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.360 Josh here when you think about shortstop. I mean, this 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.360 isn't really a position that you can kind of cheap 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:29.040 out at, right, So is this something where as a fan, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:30.639 would you be willing to see them give up a 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.160 little bit more to get someone with multiple years of control, 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:37.720 maybe a guy like Willie Castro who can slot over 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:41.000 to another position, or do you kind of think, okay, 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.119 just get a rental someone who's a little bit better 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:43.920 than Jared Triola. 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.400 Yeah, I mean, I think there's an argument to go 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.160 and get a guy that does have control. The depth 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.480 issue at shortstop's not going to go away next year. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.080 That's going to be a position that we need. By 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.800 the way, apologies if I'm stuttering here. Ryan o'harn just 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.440 hit his third home run of the game as i'm speaking, 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.160 So yeah, a little distracted there, But no, I mean 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.640 I think there's quite a great argument to go out 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.800 and get that a longer term shortstop. If they don't 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.280 get that, though, the one benefit is I like the 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:19.240 flexibility that you have with Nicknzalez and Jerry Triolo on 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.800 the left side of the infield, where both of those 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.040 guys can play third base. I don't know if you 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.880 want to put Nick Gonzalez at shortstop. No, probably not, 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.000 but so you at least have some guys there. But yeah, no, 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.599 I mean this is your knee number one now, way 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.039 more than a reliever. Still need a reliever, obviously, but 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:40.719 I would be addressing this first. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.760 Yeah, And I tweeted this right after it happened, and 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.680 some Pirates fans were disagreeing with me online, and a 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.120 lot of people's contention was, oh, you know, he was 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.039 just above a league average hitter. He had like a 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.159 one oh one ops plus. And I said, guys, it's 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.040 not about the offense. It's not just about the defense, 0:04:58.240 --> 0:04:59.679 it's not just about the base running. 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:00.560 It's all of it. 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.240 Right, You can't lose your starting shortstop, especially when you 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.320 don't have another shortstop on the roster. Connor Griffin was 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.960 playing at a three to four war level at the 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.480 most important position in the infield, and your best replacement 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.800 is replacement level at that position. You can't afford to 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.559 become a team that is three to four wins worse 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.920 for eight to ten weeks, especially these eight to ten weeks, 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.000 because they're you know, eight to ten of the final 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:31.400 weeks of your season, and you look at the competition ahead, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.520 you gotta be better than replacement level up the middle, 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.520 especially with O'Neil Cruz. And I know O'Neil Cruz and 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.719 Spencer Horwitz they're going to eventually be back, Like you 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.520 need to stay alive until they get back. And even 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.479 when they come back, yeah, they're not back yet. And 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.080 the offense has been fine without them. It's not about 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.839 the offense, it's it's what you're losing defensively, It's what 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.880 the defense. How the defense as it currently is assembled 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.320 hasn't been good enough to help your starting pitch all 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.600 the time, It's going to be worse. So that's why 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.920 I look at it, and we can. We're obviously going 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.960 to have to cover a million infielders now in the 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.360 future Wednesday trade mail bags. But I'm looking at guys 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.359 like Ezekiel Tovar, Willie Castro, two guys on the Colorado Rockies. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.240 But like people who have Jeremy Pana may be like 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.160 people who have control, who can slide over to third 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:26.560 base next year, Like this is a position where I 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.520 think they could use infield depth anyway. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.919 And I mean, I think Connor is still. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.520 The future of this team, but he's now had two 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.840 injuries in his rookie year, and it's like, all right, well, 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:38.600 if injuries are going to be a continued thing, which 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.719 I'm not suggesting they will be like you, but you 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:46.359 still need an insurance policy on your most important player, 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.400 and they don't have that right now with Triolo, they 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.800 don't have that with Gonzalez. Those guys can play other 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.160 positions in the infield, but when you move them to shortstop, 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.360 they're a worst baseball player. So that's why I agree wholeheartedly. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:00.600 It seems like we're all on the same page. Shortstops 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.440 now the number one position. 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.919 Of need for this team, absolutely, And I actually have 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.120 a one quick question for you. No uh yes, I've 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.600 been seeing a live chatter on Twitter, people saying, well, 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.920 the players have a guy that used to play shortstop 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.680 coming back from injury. Is O'Neil Cruise an option at shortstop? 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:20.160 No? Thank you? 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.280 Okay, No, I mean he like, you can't do that 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.600 to him mid season, right, Like, he hasn't played there 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:26.800 in two years, and. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.360 When he did, there was a reason why they moved 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.000 him to the outfield. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.760 Like thirty errors. So I mean, I don't know, I 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.440 don't know, so I wouldn't do it. Just go get 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.560 someone who can play shortstop's exactly. That's as simple as 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:39.880 it gets. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:40.960 Yeah. 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:47.360 Yeah, you normally go in field out film, you know, yes. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.240 Yeah, unless you're like Mookie Bets or something. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:49.600 Yeah. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:50.640 Yeah. 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.000 Me and the seventeen in the game against Saint Louis 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.680 where I started it, Yeah, after the ninth and he 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.840 went to right field and finished the last like three 0:07:58.880 --> 0:07:59.840 innings at second base. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:01.200 That's different. 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.640 Yeah, yeah, no, you're right quickly the other way around, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:05.400 so I would stay awake. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:06.360 Yeah. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.280 So all right, Well that concludes this emergency intro segment. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:11.400 We're going to take a quick break. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.200 When we come back, you'll see the rest of the 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:17.400 show that we recorded earlier today. 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That's fabletics dot com slash foul 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.079 for seventy to eighty percent off everything as a new VIP. 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.200 It's Wednesday, which means it's time for another mail bag, 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.000 and it's July, which means we're doing. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.440 A trade deadline mailbag. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.840 We ask you on Twitter every Tuesday to send us 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.360 some trade candidates of which you would like us to review. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.520 Today's three are lukewaver Dan You'll Lynch the fourth and 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:46.720 John Schreiber Shreeber Shreiber Streiber sounds right, yeah, all right? 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:51.080 So three relief Yeah, three relief pictures all from clear sellers, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.400 and we're gonna get right into it. Mark has Lukewaver, 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.560 So Mark, please bring your notes to the class. 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.960 Yeah, so Weaver, currently a relief pitcher for the Mets, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.520 was mentioned by three different people in our suggestions and rightfully. 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.760 So just pulled up his stackcast page here and there 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.120 is a lot of dark dark red. He is just 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.840 having a phenomenal year, a zero point eight to four 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.160 whip right now one point eight nine era. He hasn't 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:25.559 allowed an earned run in his last fifteen starts or 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.400 not start, sorry, fifteen games. I should say he's mostly 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.640 a two pitch guy with a four team change up. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.800 He'll mix in the cutter as well against right handers 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.240 right handed batters a little bit. But this guy is 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.240 just having one heck of a year. Previously was pitching 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.000 for the Yankees as a reliever before that, former starter, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.520 former first round pick of the Cardinals, and yeah, he's 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.240 just really stepped up in this bullpen role. He's going 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.199 to be one of the most sought after relievers on 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.120 the trade market this year. Mets seem to be the 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.599 pretty clear sellers where they're just gonna tear down the 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.320 whole team, and that bullpen has some options in it, 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.760 and Luke Weaver is one of my favorite ones, especially 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.880 adding another right handed reliever with we have a lot 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.439 of depth that lefty already in the bullpen, so I 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.840 feel like adding a trusted backhanded or back end reliever 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:27.480 that's right hander would be really really awesome. Super high 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.280 chase rate, strikes out a lot of guys, doesn't really 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.720 give up too much hard contact. Just everything you want 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.560 from a bullpen guy. So yeah, toss it over here. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.079 At No, you got any thoughts on Luke Weaver? 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.319 I do? I mean, yes, everything you said is great. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.360 He's a really good pitcher. He would make this team better. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.920 I see one, actually twelve and a half million reasons 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.240 why they would think twice. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:53.840 So next year. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.960 He's making nine and a half million this year, so 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:57.680 that's in addition to the payroll right there. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:58.840 That's a pretty steep addition. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.560 I mean, he'd be making more than every picture on 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.160 the team not named Mitch Keller, I believe. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:05.480 I don't think they have another. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:11.160 Picture like seven, yeah, seven or eight, so yeah, yeah, 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.400 which I mean he's your closer, and maybe Luke Weaver 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.680 would be. But next year for that to go up 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:22.120 to twelve and a half million, you're I mean that's 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.640 the Pirates. Yet that's that's about ten percent of their 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.280 preioal and you're paying that to a thirty three year 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.040 old reliever, which I mean, he's really good this year, 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.040 he's been solid, but you never know year to year, right, 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.640 And it seems like the back end of these big 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.200 time reliever contracts, yeah, never really age as well as 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:45.840 you would like them to, unless you're in. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.760 That like elite elite class, which. 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.920 I'm not sure he's in. I'm not also sure that 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:55.679 he can't be. But I'm not saying I wouldn't do it. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.079 I'm just saying that it's like, is that the type 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.760 of contract team is looking to take on right now 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.439 when it seems like they've already spent to an uncomfortable amount, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.520 And then you look into this offseason that's approaching, You're 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.480 gonna have to have money to replace Brandon Law. Paul 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.280 Skeens is heading into arbitration. I mean, you're already probably 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.840 gonna have to explore the idea of offloading a Mitch Keller, 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.240 like you already have a lot of money tied up 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.440 in the Mitch Keller, and who knows what Mitch Keller 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:22.920 is going to be for the remainder of his deal 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.600 and is twelve and a half million dollars a commitment 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.480 you can make to Luke Weaver next year or unless 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.040 you're willing to just eat his contract this year and 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.320 try to trade him in the off season. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.239 Well you even have an opportunity to do that this offseason. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:40.800 So that's that's the complexity of trading for someone like 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.920 Luke Weaver. And when you compare that to a lot 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.680 of other guys that we've mentioned, like Garrett Whitlock has 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.520 his contract has money, but it's club options, right, I 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.000 think Chapman is the same thing. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:53.720 Or it might be a mutual option or a playoff 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:54.240 for Chapman. 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.520 There's yeah, so you have a little bit more control 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:01.200 where it's like, this is a big commitment and I 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:02.800 don't know, I don't know if they'd be willing to 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.680 take that on. Josh, what do you think? 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.040 Yeah, y'all kind of handled everything there. I was looking 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.760 at everything. You know, obviously on the Savant page that 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:14.040 you know Mark hat put up. 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.600 There's a lot of things that you know pop out 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:18.640 that are to like. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.000 And when you said there are some things that you 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.440 didn't like, Noah, you said, like twelve and a half reasons. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.360 I thought you were gonna go seventeen because he doesn't 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:28.479 have that much extension. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.600 You know how much the Pirates take extension. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:35.000 Yeah, but no, there's a lot obviously to like when 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.520 you look at his body of work this year and 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.280 what he's done the past couple of years. But Noah, 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.880 a lot of things that you said, obviously I think 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.320 hold a lot of weight. Even though his page looks 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.120 really nice and like, yes, he would definitely boast of 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:49.600 the bullpen. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.120 I think he'd help a lot of people, But I 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:52.600 just don't know if it. 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.280 Would happen with the Pirates given his you know, pretty steep, 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.280 you know, price tag, and the uncertainty of if you'll 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.240 be able to offload that, as you said, offseason, if 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.320 you want it to or if you're gonna keep it. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.000 A lot of things that come with that. So he 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.000 would be nice to have, but I think he's gonna 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.560 be a little bit harder to reach just from a standpoint, 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.440 are they willing to, you know, give up what they 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.400 would have to give up band take on salary or 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:22.120 however that will work? So little dicey, But I think 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.440 there's a lot to like. But I don't know if 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.000 it really gets done, it's gonna be tough. 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.280 Yeah, And like to just kind of conclude my thoughts 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.560 on it, I think there is a world where, like 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.640 the Pirates are willing to take on a deal like this. 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.720 I don't think they're in that place right now, though. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.760 Like if the Pirates were what the Milwaukee Brewers are, 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.120 and they're in first place by like eight to nine 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.880 games or however far they are, and they're twenty games 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.520 over five hundred, and it's like, oh, okay, like this 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.040 is the year, then. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.720 You're willing to overspend on something. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.280 It's like you might take on a contract that you 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.400 will ret next year or get your payroll to an 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.680 uncomfortable level. I don't think think you do that when 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.920 you're one game over five hundred and three games out 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.160 of the final wildcard spot, right when you can't catch 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.200 the Saint Louis Cardinals in Miami Marlins, two teams who 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:12.160 just aren't really even close to even entering their window, 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.080 or maybe they are now, but they didn't intend to 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.520 be in their window this early. I just don't think 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.360 that this is a transaction that makes sense for the Pirates. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.440 I know pirates fans are going to hate hearing that, 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:24.960 but that's just kind of the harsh reality of it. 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.440 If they were a big market team who didn't care 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.360 about what they spent, like the Dodgers could take this 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.360 on and it's like, Okay, if we have to pay 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.240 him twelve million dollars to suck next year, who cares. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:37.600 The Pirates aren't a team that. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.760 Can afford to pay a reliever who might stink next 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.520 year and you don't know what you're getting next year 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:42.880 with him. 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:44.680 You know he's good this year. If he was a 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:45.960 rental no brainer. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.600 Yeah, And it's going to probably cost like two top 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.640 twenty prospects because this is one of the top relievers 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.080 on the market. Maybe not that much, but yeah, it 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.600 would be expensive with the two years of team control. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:01.240 Yeah, well, I mean it might be less expensive prospect 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:05.840 wise because of the money, true, But either way, it's 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.520 not going to be a treat transaction. Yeah, like you're 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:13.360 gonna it's gonna hurt you somewhere. So I would love 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.640 to see it. He makes the team better. I don't 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.800 know if it's like something that makes sense for where 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:22.119 the Pirates are right now financially, which is unfortunate. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:23.919 So we're gonna take a quick break. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.159 When we come back, we'll get into my guy who 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.359 I was assigned Daniel Lynch, the fourth here on Bucket Territory. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.919 This episode is brought to you by fan Duel Baseball fans. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.840 The MLB season is in full swing and fan Duel 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.040 is giving you a chance to call your shot with 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.239 Daily Dingers. Joining the action is easy. 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I see 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:05.520 a seventies, eighties, nineties, and I see someone who's a 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.400 little bit of an affordable acquisition as well. Guys, I mean, 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.919 you look at his contract status. He is only making 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.840 just over a million a million in a one point 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:20.479 two five this year, and then the next he's got 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.520 two remaining arbiers and then becomes an unrestricted free agent 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.960 in twenty twenty nine. So this wouldn't be a rental. 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.280 But this is also not a super expensive guy. I mean, 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.320 I would assume he'd probably be making around like three 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.679 million next year in ARB with how well he's pitched. 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:39.840 He's another lefty, which I don't necessarily love. But if 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:43.040 Evan Sisk is gonna miss time. You need another southpaw 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.320 on the pen, and this is a better pitcher than 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:50.320 Evan Sisk, So I don't hate it. I am curious 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.320