1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: There is a saying in politics that someone is a rhino. Now, 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: if you don't know what that stands for, it is 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: the acronym for republican in name only, right, you're a 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: fake Republican. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Now. 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: There's also globalist Republicans that put the world ahead of. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: Our interests in this country. 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: There are also Republicans that are just elitists, and they 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: think that they're smarter and wiser and better than you are. 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: The problem is those three categories that I gave you, 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: actually I believe make up the majority of Republicans that 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: are serving in Washington, d C. Some of them got 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: into power by masquerading as Tea Party conservatives. Others came 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: in and been there literally since the nineteen nineties when 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: there was a contract with America. And then there were 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: the Maga Republicans, even though some of them just used 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: that to get elected and they became the globalist. An 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: example of that is Mike Pence. Mike Pence is a 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: guy that's been no different than Jeb Bush or Mitt 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Romney in my opinion. Of course, there would people like 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: Glad He served Donald Trump well until the very end 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: when they had problems with each other. On January the sixth, 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: and that's fine if you have problems with one another, 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. I don't think you have to 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: pledge allegiance to one person or one ideal or one individual. 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: I think you have to stay true to yourself. 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: But there's also faking it, and I think it's pretty 28 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 1: clear that that is exactly what Mike Pence was doing 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: the entire time he was in the Trump administration. He 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: was faking it because he cared more about being the 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: vice president than being out of power, and he was 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: willing to fake it to make it work so he 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: could keep that job. But as soon as that opportunity 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: the door closed, he then went back to being who 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: he actually is, and who is Mike Pence. He's a 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: guy that puts the world ahead of American interest. Now, 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: I want to be clear, I'm not trying to beat 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: up Okay, I want to be very very clear. I 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: am not trying to beat up on Mike Pence. I 40 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: just want you and everybody else to understand that these 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: are the conservatives that aren't real. They're not authentic, they're 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: not genuine. They're Republicans in name only. They are globalists. 43 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: They are not hard true conservative leaders that are going 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: to stand with us and fight hard to actually change 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: this country. Now, there is the first Republican kind of 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: forum debate that took place, and it was a debate 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: that took place. It was actually run by Tucker Carlson. 48 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: Everybody that's running for the Republican side, to my knowledge, 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: showed up except for Donald Trump, who had a scheduling 50 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: conflict quote unquote. The others that showed up, he asked 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: pretty tough questions. Now, there were some that were saying, 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: why would you ever do this, because all you're doing 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: is debating a guy that's not running for president, and 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, there are others that said, this is exactly 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: what we need to weed out bad candidates. Is someone 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: that's actually willing to challenge these Republican players, these people 57 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: that claim to be hardcore conservatives, and when you challenge them, 58 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: then you find out who they really are because instead 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: of just these simple questions by these fake moderators on 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: TV during the debates, you're getting down into the nitty 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: gritty one on one when you go up against Tucker Carlson. Now, 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: part of this conversation was extremely revealing of who Mitt 63 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: Romney I'm sorry, Mike Pences. It's hard I get them 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: confused a lot because they're basically now the exact same person. 65 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: Mike Pence is sitting there on stage and he's talking 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: about how we need to send things like jets and 67 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: other things to Ukraine, and Tucker Carlson says, I'm sorry, 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: mister Vice President, and then the wheels come off, and 69 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: I want you to listen carefully to what Mike Pence 70 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: says in this clip. 71 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: Well, let somebody transfer some jets. 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Vice President. 73 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: Have you I know you're running for president, you are 74 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: you are distressed that the Ukrainians don't have enough American tanks. 75 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: Every city in the United States has become much. 76 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: Worse over the past three years. Drive around. 77 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: There's not one city that's gotten better in the United. 78 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: States, and it's visible. 79 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 4: Our economy has degraded, the suicide rate has jumped, public 80 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 4: filth and disorder and crime have exponentially increased. 81 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: And yet your concern. 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 4: Is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can't find 83 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: on a map, who've received tens of billions of US 84 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: tax dollars, don't have enough tanks. I think it's a 85 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: fair question to ask late, where's the concern for the 86 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: United States in that? 87 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: It's not my concern? Tucker, I've heard that routine from 88 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: you before, But. 89 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Did you hear what he just said? He just said, 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: that's not my concern. I'm going to back it up. 91 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: Listen carefully as the way it's described, He's like, you 92 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: guys aren't even focusing on America, and Mike Pence says, 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: and I'm quoting, that's not my concern, meaning you, the 94 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: American people are not my concern. I'm putting Ukraine over 95 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: the American people in the US. 96 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: Listen, your concern. 97 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 4: Is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can't find 98 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: out a map, who've received tens of billions of US 99 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 4: tax dollars, don't have enough tanks. I think it's a 100 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: fair question to ask Lake, where's the concern for the 101 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: United States? 102 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: In that? It's not my concern? Tucker. I've heard that 103 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: routine from you. It's not my concern. 104 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Everyone needs to take that audio that I just played 105 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: for you, and you need to share it everywhere because 106 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: this is how we get rid of these rhinos like 107 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: Mike Pence, like Mitt Romney, like Paul Ryan. This is 108 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: what they actually believe he got caught there because he 109 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: was so irritated with Tucker Carlson for challenging him that 110 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: he said, that's not my concern, and he said it 111 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: with anger, and I believe him, by the way, believe 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: people when they say things like this, It's not his concern. You, 113 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: the American people, are not the concern of Mike Pince. 114 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: He cares more about being a globalist and going all 115 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: over the world and being involved in all these different wars. 116 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: Because it's not as concern the American people. Listen carefully 117 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: again as he says it, and understand that you have 118 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: the former Vice president of United States of America, Mike Pince, 119 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: telling you that you are not his problem. 120 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: Where's the concern for the United States in that. 121 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: It's not my concern, Tucker, I've heard that routine from 122 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 3: you before. But that's not my concern. I'm running for 123 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 3: president of the United States because I think this country's 124 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: in a lot of trouble. I think Joe Biden is 125 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: weakened America at home and abroad. 126 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: Wow, that's not my concern. It wasn't done there. By 127 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: the way. We also has asked about America running very. 128 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Low on weapons, And what does that mean since we're 129 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: giving them all away, says I. 130 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: We just need more of your dollars. We just need 131 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: to invest more. 132 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: Last question in Kragiough, the Pentagon says that because of 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: the munitions of the material we have sent to Ukraine, 134 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: we are we're very low in enharm stock files. 135 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: Is that a concern to you? 136 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: On the one fifty five artillery? And I have no 137 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: reason to disbelieve that. Look, it's the answer, though, is 138 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: the answer is not to shrink from America's role as 139 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: leader to the free world. The answer is to invest 140 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: in our national defense. I really do believe that. Look, 141 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: remember in a year and a half, and again we 142 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: have a strong disagreement on. 143 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: Well I'm not sure we do. 144 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: That's okay, Well, that'd be great if we didn't. 145 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: This is a guy that just told you the answer 146 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: is not to shrink from America's role as leader of 147 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: the free world. 148 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: The answers to invest in our national defense. I really 149 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: do believe that. 150 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Okay, then why are you sending all of our munitions 151 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: over right now and giving us at an all time low? 152 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: You know, there's also another problem with his claims. 153 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: Mike Pence will tell you what an amazing, great, godly 154 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: Christian man he is, and he's all about religious freedom. 155 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: But there's a problem with that. And I'm not doubting 156 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: his faith. 157 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: But what I am doubting is a sincerity to this 158 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: idea that he's going to stand up around the world 159 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to Christians, they're being persecuted. Why do 160 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: I say this because there are people of faith that 161 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: are being persecuted. Religious leaders are being locked up right 162 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: now in Ukraine. Tucker Carlson also asked him about that. 163 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Listen carefully to the arrogance coming from Mike Pence. 164 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: May I ask, would you be? 165 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 4: And I believe you have a good faith position on 166 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: this and we have disagreements on it, but I wanted 167 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: to I can't let you a lie over the question 168 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: of the treatment of Christians. 169 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: As I heard that, would you be? No, But hold on, 170 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: would your I. 171 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: Don't accept my answer. 172 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: I just told you that. 173 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: I asked the religious leader in Kiv if it was happening, 174 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: asked me if I raised the issue, and I did, 175 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,239 Speaker 3: and I'm saying I also raised it with the Ukrainians 176 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: and I was told that there are religious leaders who 177 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: have been working with the Russian military that is murdering 178 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: people by the thousands. Okay, I mean, Tucker, look hold on, 179 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: don't you think let me explain to you what I 180 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: think our national interest is there. 181 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: I would think you would have greater concern for religious 182 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: liberty in Ukraine. 183 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: And I'm surprised I told you I raised the issue 184 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: of religious liberty. 185 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: You spoke to one person who's clearly on one side 186 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 4: of it. And there are many, many news reports that 187 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: are not disputed by anybody that many clergy have been 188 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: arrested in Ukraine, and I'm merely saying I may not 189 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 4: agree with their views. I'm not Russian Orthodox, but you 190 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: can't arrest clergy for having different views, period, because if 191 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 4: you do, you violate the basic tenet of. 192 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: Book I won't look. I want to be clear with you. 193 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: I won't stand by it. I won't stand for it. 194 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: If people are being persecuted for their religious beliefs, I 195 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: won't stand for it in any country with WISFRA country 196 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: of our nation is supporting or our allies or support yes, period. 197 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: Paragraph I'm sorry. I don't believe Mike Pence. I think 198 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: Mike Pence there is losing because he doesn't have the 199 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: facts on his side, and when Mike Pence is visually 200 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: frustrated at Tucker Carlson for pressing him on religious freedom, 201 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: it's a fair question to ask. Mike Pence also claimed 202 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: there was no restrictions on religious freedom in Ukraine. 203 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: That's a lie. 204 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: There is restrictions on religious freedom in Ukraine. 205 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 5: Now. 206 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: Tucker also broke it down even bigger than Ukraine, and 207 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: he talked about, like, hey, your entire foreign policy I'm 208 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: not sure the majority of conservatives would agree with in essence, 209 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: listen to this bigger and broader viewpoint as well. 210 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: Issued a bunch of public statements about your views on 211 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: foreign policy which are within, definitely within the mainstream of 212 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 4: Republican views as far as I can tell. You recently 213 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 4: met with Zelensky, acording to news reports, and I'm wondering 214 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: if during that meeting, as a prominent Christian leader, which 215 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 4: you are, in additionsip political views, you broach the question 216 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 4: of his treatment of Christians within Ukraine. The Zelensky government 217 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: has rated convents, arrested priests, has effectively banned a denomination, 218 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 4: a Christian denomination Ukraine. Orthodox Church within Ukraine has persecuted Christians, 219 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: and I wondered if you raised. 220 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 5: That with him. 221 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: I did raise the issue when we were there, and 222 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: I raised it with the leader of the Orthodox Church 223 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 3: when I'm visiting Kiev and asked him about concerns about 224 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: religious liberty. He assured me that the Zelenski government in 225 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: Ukraine was respecting religious liberty, even while recognizing that there 226 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: were very small elements of the Russian Orthodox Church that 227 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: we're being utilized for the purpose of advancing the Russian 228 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: cause in Ukraine, and that they were they were taking 229 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: steps to hold them to account. But the leader of 230 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: the church at Saint Michael's and Kiev told me personally 231 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: that he believed that the Zelenski government was respecting religious liberty. 232 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 3: And I must tell you, other than the sanctity of life, 233 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: there's no higher priority in my life than preserving the 234 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: freedom of religion in America and championing religious liberty around 235 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: the world. 236 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: I'm confused on this question. 237 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: It's very clear that the Zelenski government has arrested priests 238 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: for having views they disagree with. That's not consistent with 239 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: religious liberty. It's an attack on it, and we're funding it. 240 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: And I'm just wondering, how is it and I don't 241 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: mean to be disrespectful at all, but I sincerely wonder 242 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 4: how a Christian leader could support the arrests of Christians 243 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 4: for having different views. 244 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: Well, what I can tell you is I asked a 245 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: Christian leader in Kiv if that was in fact happening, 246 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: and he assured me that it was not. People were 247 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: not being persecuted for their religious beliefs. 248 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: Now, he said, take a break here. 249 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: I know we just by the way you hear Tucker there, 250 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: he says to him, and you can see where this 251 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: is going. 252 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: Right. 253 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: This is part of what I played for you earlier, 254 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: but this is the more extended version of it. How 255 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: we got to that point. But he said, are you 256 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: saying that no priests have been arrested there? The other 257 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: thing is, when you're dealing with Ukraine, you're just going 258 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: to take people at face value for what they say. 259 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: This country is in many ways more corrupt than Russia, 260 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: and that's saying something. The joke in Russia was, you 261 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: want to see corruption, go to Ukraine. You think it's 262 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 1: bad in Russia, go to Ukraine. That's been known for decades. 263 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: I've heard the same exact thing when I met with 264 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: world leaders in Hungary when I met with the Prime 265 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Minister of Hungary, Victor Arband. You think it's you guys 266 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: have seen nothing when it comes to corruption until you 267 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: see what's happening in Ukraine. Follow the money. That's why 268 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: they're against US war. That's why they're against people funding 269 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: the war. That's why they're saying war is bad, and 270 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: they don't like the idea that we're You know that 271 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: all of this is ratcheting up, because he's also saying, 272 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: in essence, you guys are getting played. You guys are 273 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: sending all these weapons and all this cash, and it's 274 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: going into the bank account to some of the most 275 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: shady corrupt Ukrainians, including Zelensky. And I don't believe, by 276 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: the way, that Mike Pence is this dense. I think 277 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: Mike Pence is actually a really smart guy. I think 278 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: his answer was just really stupid on this one. He 279 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: thought I could get away with it, and Tucker Carlson's. 280 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: Like, no, no, no, I'm not. 281 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you get away with it. Man, Like, 282 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: are you telling me that these people have not been arrested. 283 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: It's a fair question to ask, It's an important question 284 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: to ask. It's a question that should be asked, and 285 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: you can hear Mike Pence. He gets he gets irritated, 286 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: is a kind way of putting it right. 287 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,479 Speaker 2: He's he's a little. 288 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Frustrated that he's having to answer questions from Tucker Carlson. 289 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: But the question that Tucker just asked, I'm gonna back 290 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: it up five seconds. Listen, he's gonna say, you're saying 291 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: that they haven't been arrested. 292 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: For their religious beliefs. Now take a break here. I 293 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: know we disagree on this strongly, but I respect your 294 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: right to your opinion on Ukraine, and I trust your 295 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: respect mine. Look, look, okay, look, I've been to Ukraine 296 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: now twice. My wife and I traveled into Ukraine a 297 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: month after the initiation of hostilities. We traveled then with 298 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: a group called Samaritans Purse, providing Christian relief to the 299 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: millions of Ukrainians, women and children of every age that 300 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: had to flee that country in the face of the 301 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: unprovoked Russian invasion that began a year and a half ago. 302 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: I did return, took eleven hour train ride into Kiev, 303 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: also again with Samaritan's Purse. We not only met with 304 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: government leaders, but we met with Christian relief workers. We're 305 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: literally rebuilding homes of people in small towns, little hamlets 306 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: a year ago were being shelled by Russian tanks. All 307 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: the people in that community were just sitting in their homes. 308 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: I mean, the truth is what I saw was not 309 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: just evidence of war, but I saw evil. And I 310 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: believe that it is in the interest of the United 311 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: States of America to continue to give the Ukrainian military 312 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: the resources that they need to repel the Russian invasion 313 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: and restore their sovereignty. 314 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: May I ask, would you be And now you can 315 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: hear the audience they're doing, And this is why we 316 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: have to do a better job of. 317 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: Vetting these people. We have to do a better job 318 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: this debate. 319 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: By the way, if I was a candidate and I 320 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: was a Rhino, I wouldn't do okay this interview. If 321 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: I was Mike Pence, I wouldn't have showed up. If 322 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: I knew I was going to do this, I would 323 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: not have shown up because the points that talk or 324 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: making are valid, right, I mean, why are you more concerned? 325 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: Why aren't you more concerned about the US over Ukraine? 326 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: And he's like, that's not my concern. Okay, well, that 327 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: tells you that you don't want him to be the 328 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: president of the United States of America. You know the 329 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: fact that he's saying that we're very low on weapons 330 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: and munitions and that's why we need to invest more. 331 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: That concerns me because we're sending this all away, you know, Mike, 332 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: Mike Penn's claiming there are no restrictions on religious freedom 333 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. 334 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: That's just not true. 335 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: He claims it Zelenski's only arresting priests supporting Russia based 336 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: on what we've seen, that's not true. 337 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: These are all things. 338 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: That are I think, very important for us to hear, 339 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, Tucker Carlson. It wasn't just by the way 340 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: Mike penns that he gave a hard time to and 341 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: ask these tough questions. He also former Arkansas Governor Asa Hodgson. 342 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: He's running for president as a Republican. Another one that 343 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: needs to be owned because he's not a hardcore conservative. 344 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: He's a rhino. He's a globalist. 345 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say when he was asking 346 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: him about how many COVID shots he's had. Listen carefully, but. 347 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 4: One of the powers that government, did you surp over 348 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 4: the past several years, is the right to decide what 349 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: medicine you take in the form of COVID mandates? How 350 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 4: did you feel about that? And how many COVID shots 351 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 4: did you take? And how do you feel about it 352 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 4: now in retrospect? 353 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 6: How many COVID shots did you take? 354 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: Zero? 355 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 4: But I think it's fair and I can see that 356 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: you were repoiled when I asked you that question. And 357 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 4: I don't think, honestly you should be asking people about. 358 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: Their medical care. 359 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 4: But that became a matter of public policy, and I 360 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: do think that the whole country ought to pause and assess, like, 361 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: what did we just go through? 362 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: How do we feel about it now? So it's a 363 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: very straightforward You. 364 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: Notice how ASA thought, oh, I'm going to take it 365 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: to Tucker. You don't want to answer the question, And 366 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: that tells you about the temperament that he would be 367 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: as a leader. The fact that that ASA is sitting 368 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: there and he's like, well, how many did you have? 369 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: Like how throw it right back in your face. 370 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: You want to be president the United States of America, 371 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: You need to be able to answer these types of questions. 372 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: You know. 373 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: The audience also erupted when Tucker press it on child 374 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: transition surgeries. These are the types of questions that we 375 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: need to be asking. 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We do. 411 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 2: We are awful at it. 412 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: We are absolutely horrific at anything that deals with vetting 413 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: candiates because we hear them say saying right, all right, 414 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: sounds good, and we just let them go through the process. 415 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: And what Tucker Carlson was doing is saying, no, now, 416 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: I want to play for you real quick, this back 417 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: and forth over transitioning and surgeries. We need more of this, Okay, 418 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: Asa Hudgson on child transition surgeries. We need more of 419 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: this type of questioning that Tucker gave for every candidate. 420 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 6: Listen in face and I believe in a limited role 421 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 6: of government, and so you know, if I don't think 422 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 6: that California ought to be able to tell parents you 423 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 6: need to have gender affirming care for the children, the 424 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 6: government should not do that. And in the same way, 425 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 6: let's keep the government out of it unless it's that 426 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 6: extreme case, and let's let. 427 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: Parents guide the children. I stayed with parents, so. 428 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 4: And amen for standing with parents, and I think everyone 429 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: in the room would agree with that. But the reason 430 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 4: I asked the question was not to bring up a 431 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 4: source subject, which I know that it is, but to 432 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: ask if in the subsequent two years you had said 433 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: that you drew the line at castration of physical altercation 434 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 4: of a child's body because it's permanent. But in the 435 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: subsequent two years, I think we've learned that hormone therapy 436 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 4: for pre pubescent children is permanent. It changes the bone structure, 437 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 4: it changes the brain. 438 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: Of the child. 439 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 4: That a lot of people believe, including me, that it 440 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: destroys the child's life. But it is permanent, it's not reversible. 441 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: So given that in the standard you just articulated, do 442 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: you have different feelings? I mean, this is a permanent 443 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: change we are making. 444 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: To a child. Why would we allow that if we 445 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: don't allow surgery? 446 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 6: Well, permanent change is one issue, but also hormonal treatment 447 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 6: is a different issue and can be a different issue. 448 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 6: And whenever you look at the bill that I vetoed, 449 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 6: there was not any grandfather clause in there. Again, I 450 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 6: respect legislators that have a different view, but I think independently. 451 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 2: I think of the parents. 452 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 6: I think of the Constitution, and actually the court, if 453 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 6: you read the decision of the federal judge that struck 454 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 6: it down is unconstitutional, really sided with parents as well. 455 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: But how is what I read? But how is it treatment? 456 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: I guess that's my question. 457 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 4: If you have a child who says he is born 458 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 4: a boy, I want to become a girl. He hasn't 459 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 4: gone through puberty yet, he's say ten, is it treatment 460 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: to prevent him from going through the natural process of adolescence. 461 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 4: How is that treatment? It seems not really treatment, it 462 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: seems like something else. 463 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: Well, you'll have to Tucker. 464 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 6: I hope that we'll be able to talk about some issues. 465 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: I know that, Well, this is. 466 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 4: One of the biggest issues in the country, and I 467 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: think I would do every person in this room would 468 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: agree that it is a central issue because it's these 469 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 4: are children who are being altered permanently, and you can 470 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: defend that alteration, that change if you like, but there's 471 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: really no debate about whether or not it's permanent. And 472 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: so I think it's fair to ask you, in a 473 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 4: commrational and I very much ho polite way, why you 474 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 4: would support that. 475 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: The idea that he's like, I wish we could talk 476 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: about real issues. 477 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: This is a real issue. 478 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: And when you want to do that right, when you 479 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: want to just move past it like it's no big deal, 480 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: well let's talk. I hope we have time to work 481 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: and talk about real issues. This is He's a real issue. 482 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: Glenn Beck, by the way, this is on the Blaze 483 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: his reaction to Asa Hutch in an interview he pulled. 484 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: He described it this way. 485 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 7: I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like that. 486 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 7: You know, at one point in America, the hopes and 487 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 7: dreams of hundreds and hundreds of people as they looked 488 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 7: up into the sky and those in the sky that 489 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 7: looked down they thought it was going to go in 490 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 7: one way, and twenty nine seconds later the entire Hindenburg 491 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 7: was on the ground. 492 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: Now again, everyone that's listening to this should be glad 493 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: that there's finally somebody on a stage with the Republicans 494 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: it's willing to ask actually tough questions and have a 495 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: dialogue with him. 496 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: This is called the vetting process. 497 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: You want to be president, it's America, and if you 498 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: get taken down by just basic questions, that's not a 499 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: bad thing, folks, that's a good thing. 500 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing. It's actually an amazing thing. 501 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: We should now demand this for every single Republican running 502 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: for office. Another one, by the way, that didn't do 503 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: that great. It's a guy that I actually liked personally, 504 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: Tim Scott. I think he's a really nice guy. But 505 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: does that mean that that's qualification to be president. 506 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: No. 507 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: Tim Scott was asked about America's interest in Russia and 508 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: what's happening with Ukraine, and I'm going to play these 509 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: three clips for you. 510 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: Quickly listen to the first one. 511 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: So you know, a nation that great has to beware 512 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: of threats to its very existence. 513 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 514 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 4: Yesterday Biden mobilized reserves. 515 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: What do you think of that? 516 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 4: And are you concerned that we're moving, as we seem 517 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 4: to be, toward war with Russia. 518 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would say that without any question, we 519 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 5: should never allow American soldiers to be engulfed into the 520 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 5: challenge between Ukraine and Russia. Our boots on the ground 521 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 5: should not be there the ability my mama wanted to preach, 522 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 5: or some will stand up. 523 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 2: And do it that way, Iljah. 524 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 5: So literally so, I think one of the failures of 525 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 5: President Biden has been his inability to articulate America's national 526 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 5: vital interest in the conflict or the genocide in Ukraine. 527 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 5: America's national vital interests is degrading the Russian military. When 528 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 5: we degrade the Russian military, we make sure that our 529 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 5: home front is safer and that our NATO ally partners 530 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 5: that would cause us to send soldiers over is safe. 531 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 5: When we have the land contiguous with Ukraine safe, we 532 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 5: keep our American soldiers at home, and our primary objective 533 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 5: should only be to engage when America's vital national interests 534 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 5: are being engaged in. Unfortunately, President Biden has no ability 535 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 5: to understand and appreciate what. 536 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: That looks like. 537 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: Wait, now, Tucker noticed the exact same thing that I 538 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: noticed in those comments from Tim Scott, And listen to him. 539 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: Try to clarify and get clarification from Tim Scott on 540 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: this talking about so basically, you're saying that our national 541 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: interest is to fight Russians, and we should do that 542 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: whenever and wherever we can, I ask you. 543 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 4: So, you're saying that it's in our national interest, vital 544 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: national interests, to degrade the Russian military, in other words, 545 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 4: to fight Russia with other people's soldiers. 546 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 5: I would say this way. If you think about the 547 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 5: world order that we established after World War Two, if 548 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 5: you think about a rules based system, where does the 549 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 5: rules based system come from? It comes from this nation, 550 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 5: our Judeo Christian foundation that says that there are rules 551 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 5: of the road, that there is something called absolute truth, 552 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 5: and we established that. 553 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: As a part of that absolute truth. 554 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 5: What we're trying to do is make sure that our 555 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 5: home front remain safe. Keeping our home front safe means 556 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 5: that evaluating the actual threats to our country. The most 557 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 5: immediate military threat that could happen is Russia. Why is 558 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 5: a good question. You look at their six generation jets, 559 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 5: you look at their hypersonic weapons, you look at their 560 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 5: nuclear arsenal. Everything that we do that degrades the Russian 561 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 5: military is good for America. You look at the long 562 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 5: term threat to our nation, it's China. Their existential threat 563 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 5: that we face long term becomes China. You look at 564 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 5: this rising access of evil that we're being formed, it's Russia, China, 565 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: and Iran. Breaking that to peace is before it gets started, 566 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 5: I think, is in our vital interests? 567 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: Is it in our vital interests? 568 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 6: Right? 569 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: Is this really in our vital interest for us to 570 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: do that? Maybe? But how much money should we spend? 571 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: And where do we draw that line? 572 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 5: Now? 573 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: Tucker also says one other thing, why not, you know, 574 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: maybe go for peace instead of war and see if 575 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: that could work? 576 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: Right? 577 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: Is there another way besides just sending all these weapons 578 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: to Ukraine and all this mighty Ukraine? As American taxpayers 579 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: are suffering right now? 580 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: You know the war very quickly, So why not force 581 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: a peace? How would you do? Well? 582 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 4: You could tell Ukraine and they are a client state 583 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: of the United States. Without American backing, there's kind of 584 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: no Ukraine. We're literally paying the salaries of their bureaucrats. 585 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 4: We want you to sit down as they tried to 586 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: do but were stopped by our government, and stop this 587 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 4: war and reach a piece as one does where both sides, 588 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: you know, concede some of their interests, Like why wouldn't 589 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: that be in our interest to do that? 590 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 5: I think the faster we get to piece, the better 591 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 5: off we are. What we don't want to do, from 592 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 5: my perspective is allow ourselves to ask for a premature 593 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 5: piece that cannot be achieved. As the alliances continue to 594 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 5: come together to the extent that we can find our 595 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 5: path out of this situation, the better off we are. 596 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 4: So what's the point at which we know that we've 597 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 4: achieved our goal? And I say that within the context 598 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 4: of having watched twenty years of occupation in Afghanistan where 599 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 4: nobody could answer the question what's the point? And no 600 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: one in Congress ever asked that question? Amazingly, so is 601 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 4: the what is the specific goal here? 602 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? So I would say that the objective should be 603 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 5: for Selenski and Ukraine to be able to achieve victory 604 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 5: by maintaining as much of their territory as they possibly can, 605 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 5: and then seeing the resources that we've deployed along with 606 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 5: our Western alliances, achieving the peace that I believe comes 607 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 5: when you get these two folks to sit down and 608 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 5: have a conversation that allows them to determine where those 609 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: lines will be drawn for the next one hundred years. 610 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so, in other words, never ending wars now again. 611 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: You may agree with Tim Scott and what he said there, 612 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: but these are the real questions that we should have 613 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: and we should expect this moving forward in every presidential 614 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: former every president debate. I also love the fact that 615 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: there's not commercial breaks there to kind of regather your thoughts, 616 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: right because we do this all for the cameras. Unfortunately, 617 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: usually it's like a talent show contest. This was a 618 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: different forum, and as conservatives, we should demand this type 619 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: of forum throughout the entire primary season. While we picked 620 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: the Republican nominee, I'm glad that someone is challenging these 621 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: candidates and asking them real questions, not just the powder 622 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: puff questions. These are important moments in this campaign cycle. 623 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: Everyone should go back and listen to the entire conversations 624 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: that we're had because it's going to be a hell 625 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: of a lot better than anything else that's out there. 626 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Make sure you share this podcast with your family and 627 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: your friends. Please write a five story review if you would, 628 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: that helps us reach more people, and we'll see you 629 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: back here tomorrow.