1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: The Ultimate pitchure List. Let's talk to the pros. Welcome 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy Baseball podcast. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: It has been Joey Pai, Joe pis if you and 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: today it's the Ultimate starting Pitcher Guy. That's right, Me 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: the Welsh and our good friend from pitture List, Nick Pollock, 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: are going to break down all the sleepers, the busts, 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: and the must haves at the pitcher position. And of 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: course the pitching Guru, the man who makes the list 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: of all the pictures. Who better to have on this show, 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Nick Pollock, who also has a very exciting announcement here 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: at the top of the show, because pitchure List has 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: some new special features going on. So Pollock tell the 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: people about the picture List. 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: Subbed well, thank you so much for having me today. Yes, 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: we launched pel Pro today. 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That's 26 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: all I want? 27 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: Well, I you know, it's a it's a big deal. 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: I took a picture today with this is this little 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: minor league player on the Royals kid named Bobby Waite Junior. 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: He wanted to take a picture with me. He's like, hey, 31 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 4: you're the guy that took the Greg Maddox picture right now. 32 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean, how amazing would that have been? If that 33 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: was true? It would have been the greatest thing ever. 34 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 4: The best actually be the best moment I ever had 35 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 4: that's relative to that was two years ago in the 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 4: AFL when I was on the field and I started 37 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: interviewing Tristan Cossus and I was like, hey, I want 38 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: some people know the story. I was like, hey, I 39 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 4: want you to watch this, and I pulled up my 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: video and he goes as soon as he pulls it, 41 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: I pull it up. I'm like, this is my video 42 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 4: I have of you and he's like, are you the Welsh? 43 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: And I was like, get out of here. And I 44 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: was like, so you guys are watching this video. He's like, yeah, 45 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: I saw that video on Twitter. He also, by the way, 46 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: did say my name completely incorrect, but we're gonna just 47 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: pretend that he knew whatever. 48 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: Chris with you and Bagman never No, it's no one. 49 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Ever screws up your names. Would they say, I mean 50 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Welsh is pretty easy? 51 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: Would he well? 52 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: Because my Twitter handle it's like, is it the Welsh? 53 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 4: He was just like, he said something like is the Welsh. 54 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: He's like, are you is the Welsh? And I'm like, 55 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 4: I am is the Welsh? And this is cool? And 56 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: I was like, this is so exciting. You guys saw this, 57 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: But no, none of those guys saw. 58 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: A Yokoff Smirnoff kind of like stand up by I 59 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: guess I am in America. Plaise you. Yeah. 60 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: I'm actually a little bit worried because the biggest narrative 61 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: with that photo was just not how good. Yeah, Greg 62 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: Madix doesn't look super great. And Jacob de Gram also, 63 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: by the way, was supposed to throw on Monday. He didn't. 64 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: I was out there today again just because I had 65 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: some extra time. He didn't do anything. He was just 66 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: walking around, so he still hasn't thrown, so I've been 67 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 4: a little defensive of it, but liking to throw at 68 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: some point. 69 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: Please. 70 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're watching on the YouTube channel here instead 71 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: of just listening to the podcast like you should, because 72 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel is great, you're seeing my face. Yeah, 73 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: that's the face there. Now. 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Who is number one on your list? Here? 101 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: You want to talk about today for sleepers, for pictures 102 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: and our ultimate guide of twenty three. 103 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: Well, you guys took some really interesting pictures and I 104 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: want to talk about all of them. 105 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: But I'm not. 106 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you guys do that. I'm going to 107 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: give someone that actually is very deep in ADP in 108 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: your drafts. It's Garrett Whitlock right now is at eighty 109 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: five of all starting pitchers of fancy pros on ADP. 110 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: Garrett Whitlock has a couple of things going for him. One, 111 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: he has a sinker that reminds me a lot of 112 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: Aaron Nola, the way he throws a glove side insight 113 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: to lefties on the front him coming back over. He 114 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: also has a slider than Missus Bat's at over a 115 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: twenty percent rate, and a really good change up that 116 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: last year. If you just made a few better ones, 117 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: you would have gone away in a lot more innings 118 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: and a lot more starts. The best part about it, 119 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: My biggest strategy when you're chasing your sleepers this year 120 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: is not to think of it as I have to 121 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: get my guy in my draft and then I hold 122 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: on to him for the rest of the year. You're 123 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: in a twelve teamer, and if you look back at 124 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: your drafts some previous seasons, you don't have the guys 125 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: you drafted about half of them by June, so you 126 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: might as well go for guys who could hit, who 127 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: you also want to start early in the season. Well, 128 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: guess what, Garrett Whitlock will get the Pirates in his 129 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: first start. So not only are you feeling good about 130 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: chasing something fun, you also get value while you wait 131 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: to see if it pans out or not. So I'm 132 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: targeting Garrett Whitlock at again a lot of my drafts 133 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: and see him an eighty five starting pitcher where he 134 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: doesn't even get drafted. 135 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes he's on multiple of my teams. 136 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. I have him on multiple teams last year, 137 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: and because that rpsp elichability, I thought, looking to get 138 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: me value somewhere. I know it was an up and 139 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: down season for Whitlock for sure, but you saw the 140 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: glimpses and I think that's what's very exciting, and that 141 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: rotation Spot's gonna be his Welsh I mean, well that's 142 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: what I was curious about. It's a lot of guys 143 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: left in Boston at this point. 144 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: Nick, what's your level of comfort that Witlock is going 145 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: to be able to lock up rotation spot because I 146 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: feel like they're very it's very volatile with the Red 147 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: Sox in general. 148 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: I mean, there's no one else to get it right now. 149 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: BeO even has some small injury thing, but we understood 150 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: that he'd be in the miners anyway to start the year. 151 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 2: Then I think the four is James Paxton. I hope 152 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: that works out. You could even throw him on the 153 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: here as well if you want as a sleeper. If 154 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: James Paxson's healthy through spring training and throwing ninety six 155 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: or so, then sure, I'd love to take a chance 156 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 2: concerning he's free in drafts as well. 157 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: But I mean, that's it. There's no one else at 158 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: the end of that rotation. 159 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: But like they were gonna, like, I feel like we're 160 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 4: just waiting and it's gonna be like in two days 161 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 4: and be like the Red Sox sign Michael Blade and 162 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 4: we're all like, oh, well, what are we doing here? 163 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: And it's gonna like knock off witlocks and go in 164 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: the rotation. I don't know, but yeah, I like this 165 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 4: call a lot. It's just this is a nice, good 166 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: deep sleeper for everybody. 167 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. And we were joking about this 168 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: rotation the other day. It would have been amazing, Like 169 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, this rotation would have been awesome, paston sale, 170 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: an amazing you know you throw in and there too 171 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: with the back to back Sye youngs. But unfortunately it's, uh, 172 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: that was like nine years ago, so got to move 173 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: on from that, all right, So well, give me a 174 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: sleeper in twenty twenty three for the starting pitchers. 175 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the guys I've talked about in decent 176 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: about minor Now I didn't go as deep as as 177 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: Nick ended up doing. I kind of have this tier 178 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: of like essentially between like thirty nine and fifty one 179 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: of three pitchers that I think can really really rise, 180 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: and one of those is Nicolodolo, who I've talked about 181 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: a decent amount I talked about earlier, like Steamer projections 182 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: like a long time ago, we now have like ATC 183 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: and pat X. One thing I thought was fascinating about 184 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: it was Steamer had projected twenty pitchers to go over 185 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: two hundred strikeouts this coming year. The only two of 186 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: those players outside the top one hundred were teammates Hunter 187 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: Green and Nickelodolo. Hunter Green we've talked about, you know, 188 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: obviously the slider stuff has been fantastic with a fastball. 189 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: He had a whiff rate on his slider of forty 190 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: percent Hunter Green did. In contrast, Lodolo, who is way 191 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: more of an advanced pitcher, bigger spin metrics on it. 192 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: His curveball, which he used thirty percent of the time, 193 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: had a forty six percent spend rate, which was awesome 194 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: all Also, the K percentage was around twenty nine percent. 195 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: I don't like the team context with him, but Lodolo 196 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: is one of those guys with that usage just overall 197 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: of the pitch mix, I mean, ninety eighty seven percentile 198 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 4: K percentage kept batters low with rates were really solid, 199 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: and he used four pitches ten percent or more of 200 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: the time, which really like just absurd in general to 201 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: not have to like sit back on that fastball sinker 202 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: change up as solid, but that curveball is a big 203 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: WIF pitch. I think we're gonna get big strikeouts from 204 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 4: Nickeolodolo this year, and I think there's a lot of 205 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 4: room to grow even on a poor team. We saw 206 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 4: Louis Castillo do it before. And Nickelodolo, I think is 207 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: a sleeper this year and really could push top twenty five, 208 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: maybe even twenty now. 209 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: It's not very often you get a sleeper who's got 210 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: a track record like Lucas Gilito. But that's the first 211 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: one I want to talk about because. 212 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 4: I would have picked him, Joe. I just want to 213 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 4: tell you I would have picked a. 214 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: Had him being you know, kind of grossly undervalued right now. 215 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: The ECRs at one forty one on Fantasy pros ADP 216 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: is around one forty nine overall. He's going at pitcher 217 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: forty six right now off the board according to Fantasy pros. 218 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: And look, I understand that the RRA was five last year. 219 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: I get that now. The good news is if you 220 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: look at you know, some of the you know, deeper numbers. 221 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: The x FIP was at three sixty six. So he's 222 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: only twenty eight years old. And I think that's something 223 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: we we should not forget and we're not gonna just 224 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: throw away three really good seasons, well two in a 225 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: COVID season at least, because he was outstanding in those years. 226 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: The strikeoutry was very high. He's coming to pounds coming 227 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: to camp forty pounds light or two. He's in phenomenal shape. 228 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'll best shape your life and all that stuff. 229 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: But this is the guy that seems like I think 230 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: last year got off on his mechanics a little bit. 231 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: And sometimes when you're heavier as a picture, that will happen, 232 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: or sometimes you're not getting the same drive and the 233 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: same things that you were used to normally. So for 234 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: all those reasons, I'm buying back into Lucas chileto. I 235 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: think that is one of those things that I just 236 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: want to kind of put out there right away. And 237 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: I've got another white Sox guy in my list. 238 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I want to ask Nick had reactions when 239 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: you said, chih, what is what is the reaction? 240 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: You don't seem like a so Lucas Julito. There are 241 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: a lot of things. Is one. 242 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: It's you can kind of just throw away all of 243 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: last season because he had the abdominal injury. And he 244 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 2: even admitted that the abdominal injury messed them up the 245 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: entire year. So that's a really easy way to say, like, Okay, 246 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: he's totally gonna be fine. And I was with you 247 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: a lot, Joe of thinking, oh, man, Lucas Giulito is 248 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: going around the fiftieth where it's like one hundred and 249 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: sixtieth overall or something like that. I would jump back 250 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: in at that. And then he started changing his arm circle. 251 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: And if you remember when Lucas Julito broke out the 252 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 2: first time, the biggest thing that happened is that he 253 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: had this big, long arm circle. 254 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: He was like six' eight or, something and he changed 255 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: it so That i'm going so he. 256 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Makes it short on him like, that, Right, well he's 257 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: back to a longer one. NOW i don't know. WHY 258 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: i hope it's good for. HIM i find myself in 259 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: a situation where there are so many good, pictures and 260 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: once you get past like forty five or, so there's 261 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: this big collection of rebound guys that you can chase. 262 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: Huge deledo is probably at the top of, them And 263 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: I'M i actually almost put him on the bust one 264 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: because there's a potential of him busting around one fifty or. 265 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 3: So it's so. 266 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: Volatile to, me this could work out so. Well it 267 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: can also just not get back to where it was. 268 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: At this. POINT i don't think It's i'm with you 269 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: that like Lind. That it's guys Like Chris, Dale It's Grayson. 270 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Rodriguez how manys were gonna get out of? 271 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: Him he's the one you. 272 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: Want would you Want i'm not touching, him, Right. 273 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: Would you want sale or OR i want sale? INSTEAD 274 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: i want? 275 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: Instead, YEAH i want because because he was ready to 276 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: go and then he had the finger injury and that's 277 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: the thing that held him back last. 278 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: Year then he put on a. BIKE i already SAID 279 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 4: i want TO i want to Like Chris. SALE i do. 280 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: That part of my Problem, Sale i'm just concerned about, 281 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: him you, know holding up over a full. Season i'll have. 282 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: That here's WHAT i don't like. 283 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: ABOUT i actually Think gilie is maybe the one pitcher 284 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: in the top fifty that you really can't make a 285 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: great case for because you have to throw out the 286 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: entire year last year with the, injury with the added, 287 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: weight with he was really throwing. Inside if you go, 288 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: back there's a video out, there like really inside his 289 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: body and it kind of explodes on how he threw 290 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: and he's completely altered that lost a ton of. Weight 291 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 4: and he's a pretty smart pitcher as, well who was 292 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 4: dominant the year prior to. That SO i kind of 293 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: throw out next last year AND i don't really have 294 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 4: awesome things to tell you outside of big weight. 295 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: Loss he has. 296 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: Altered he worked with Drive, LINE i think, again and 297 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 4: he's altered the way his approach. Is AND i think 298 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: a smart picture like that is a person THAT i 299 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 4: want to bet. On and he's still young, enough so 300 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: that's WHY i would Go. Gilito but you, know, conversation all. 301 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: Right give us another. Sleeper we can't Spend all show 302 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: On Lucas. GILIDO i mean we, can BUT i don't 303 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: think everyone could be. 304 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 3: Happy who do you? 305 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: Want who is this Necker? 306 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Man what do you? Want? 307 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: Go let's go With i'll give you the ultra, sleeper 308 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: who somehow is at one thirty three oh adp. 309 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: Of starting pitchers on fantasy and blows my. 310 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: Mind it's the same idea As Garrett, whitlock where if 311 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: you're going to go for someone that you're thinking maybe 312 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: what they did last year could develop or be good. 313 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: Again that Is Drew, smiley believe it or, not the 314 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: opening weekend of the, season he's going to go up 315 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: against The. Brewers AND i cannot emphasize this. Enough you 316 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: are in such a good position in your twelve teamers 317 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: if you're able to get a start that is value 318 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: the opening weekend and then see something that is exciting 319 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: and be able to drop a guy and get an 320 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: extra start over everybody. Else drew smiley second half of 321 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 2: last year was, phenomenal twenty three percent, krate a lovely 322 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: sub three ear. 323 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: Ray great. 324 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: Whip on that he went with WHAT i called The 325 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 2: Black snell, blueprint throwing fastballs up and curve balls, down 326 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: he did it with excellent. Command this was so exciting to. 327 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: Watch he's in a good situation in The, cubs and 328 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: The cubs got better offensively a decent defense behind. HIM 329 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: i love that matchup against The. BREWERS i would love 330 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: take him to take him at the end of my. 331 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: Draft get that first. Start maybe he maintains that velocity 332 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: over ninety three miles prior with That sinker is doing 333 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: a exactly what he did in the second, half and 334 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: you hold onto it or you get rid of him 335 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: for some number four number five star that surprises us 336 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,359 Speaker 2: all that we didn't go, after and you feel comfortable 337 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: making the decision to Drop, smiley while some other guys. 338 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: You won't know what to do and you'll have to 339 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 3: hold on to. 340 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 2: THEM i call that a, hipster a headache inducing, pictures 341 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: stifling the entire. Roster smiley isn't one of those that 342 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: worked out and you can get you can get rid 343 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: of him. Early so those are the kind of guys 344 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: like the. Target Drew smiley is one of. 345 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Them i'll argue that The cubs gave the illusion of 346 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: the offense getting, better BUT i don't know if it's 347 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: gotten much better. Yet we'll see we shall. See, well 348 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: give me another guy on your sleeper list AT sp 349 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: who he, Got. 350 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: Give me The Jesus. 351 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: Lizard Jesus lozardo is SOMEONE i refuse to quit forty 352 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: two on The Fantasy PRO'S. Adp if you're looking at starting, 353 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: pittures velocity came back last. Year early on he was 354 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: hitting like ninety eight ninety. Nine he ended up finishing 355 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: around ninety, six which was still an uptick For Hazus. 356 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: Lozardo i'm a sucker for multi mixed pictures and this, guy, 357 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: ACTUALLY i believe If i'm looking at this, correctly he 358 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: had four pitches that he used twenty percent of the, 359 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: time so, true true mixes between the, sinker, curveball change, up, 360 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: fastball changes, up the way he approaches to he messes with, 361 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: timing WHICH i really really. Love spin numbers were really, 362 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: solid and you don't really see this. Often we'll see 363 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: maybe like three of the. Four he decreased the batting 364 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 4: average against every single one of his pitches in twenty 365 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: twenty two over twenty, one so What and, yeah over 366 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: twenty one it wasn't like all, right you, know the 367 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 4: curveball in the fastball was, better but he got hit 368 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: up a little bit over here to. Compensate, no every 369 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: single pitch was worse Against Leesus lozardo for the. YEAR 370 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: i also think the team does a really good job 371 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: in the. Development, overall we saw What sandy. DID i 372 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: Think lozardo is going to make a big. Step he's 373 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: a thirty percent k, guy WHICH i. Love give me, 374 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: strikeouts give me pitch, mix give me that better team 375 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: context Hazes lozardo kind of Like. Lodolo he's actually Behind, 376 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: lodola AND i think that might be an argument That 377 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: lozardo could be, ahead but you'd see in drafts he 378 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: goes all further. DOWN i think it's gonna be a 379 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: top twenty five guy this, Year Love Hazes. 380 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: Zardo Curious, Welsh does the two seventy EIGHT x plug 381 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: from last year scare you at? 382 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: All is that SOMETHING i really think about too? Much 383 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: i'm not. Trying i'm not trying to put it too 384 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: much into my? 385 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: Analysis what about? 386 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: You? 387 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: Nick does? That does that number scare? You his two 388 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: seventy EIGHT x? 389 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: PLUG i have no idea what AN x plug, is 390 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: BUT i don't know WHAT x plug. 391 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 4: Is they haven't heard ABOUT x. 392 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: Plug, yeah you guys are making this up pretty. 393 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: Much we wouldn't make up we're making up a Stat 394 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: what are you talking? 395 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: About? 396 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 4: Wait, wait hold, On Nick pollick hasn't heard OF x. 397 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: Plug, yeah, okay, Anyway so Haz zardo's health is. 398 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: The big is the big PROBLEM i and that is 399 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: he's he had a fourm of injury last. 400 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: YEAR i this is a bit you guys, beforehand. 401 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: You just went past. 402 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: It nick in the last, Episode i'm Gonna i'm gonna 403 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: give everybody and this is something we're gonna. Do joe 404 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 4: has the best idea. Ever so you obviously didn't. Listen 405 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: so we were going on and we were talking about 406 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: stats being made and how much they were And joe is, 407 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: like we should like make up a stat And i'm 408 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 4: like that's, great AND i threw Out i'm LIKE x. Plug, 409 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 4: Well joe AND i we have. TECH i have a 410 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: text message thread on my phone of a plan that 411 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: we had to see if we could get. You AND 412 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 4: i Told, JOE i was, like we're not gonna be. 413 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Able to get knows about the. 414 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 4: Audience here's what was. 415 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: Happening has the. Test so here you. Go we didn't 416 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: we didn't SNEAK x plug by. You Uh so here's 417 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: the here's the fun. Part now you get the. Opportunity, 418 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: Uh Justin mays will be our guest On. Thursday do 419 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: you want to KEEP x plug or by the end 420 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: of the, show you have the opportunity to create a 421 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: new stat that sounds like a stat that we might 422 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: be able to catch somebody off guard. 423 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: With so think about give it a. 424 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: Name at it it's Pl you can make it almost, 425 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: plug you can make it PEL. Vg so it sounds 426 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: like it's My, no we should do peel, ug we 427 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: should do the. 428 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: Plug we should be, like you, Know nick just dropped 429 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 4: picture pictureless that and they've got the p L U. G, 430 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 4: okay that's. It we're going to pel. 431 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: Winter my pl you, know, yeah, yeah they're really comfortable 432 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: and every you know what's so? 433 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: Comfortable nikkia said. 434 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 4: Pro everyone should know. That he immediately fall for the. 435 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 4: Bit he called this on it and you went to go, 436 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: analyze so none of us could focus because we were 437 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: waiting for you to explode. 438 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: Half a millisecond where he looked in The he's just 439 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: like still like. 440 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: It you gave to seventy eight and like you never 441 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: worried about a two seventy eight whatever that. 442 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 3: Is that's like the most normal league. THING i don't. 443 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: Know that sounds like a number that could be. TROUBLING 444 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: i don't know what were you saying About lazar? Number 445 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: is that the? Problem? 446 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: MAYBE i think it was Too what was what was About? 447 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: Lazardo though you had some good analysis before your BRAIN 448 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: x plug did melt your brain a little? 449 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: Bit we? 450 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: WILL i was, LIKE i know that also used, plug 451 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: which is, like that's too close. 452 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: Anyway wuzardo is an interesting. ONE i love. 453 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: HIM i think the curve balls really good and then 454 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 2: came back with the. Change it really. Good the velocity 455 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 2: they gained the beginning the first half was. There when 456 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: he came back from injury a little bit less was still. 457 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 2: There the problem is, health and it's. Interesting at forty, 458 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: two that's actually pretty much right WHERE i have him 459 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: ranked peron because it's, right but right after all the 460 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 2: other secure. 461 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 3: ONES I i hope it. WORKS i really. 462 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: Do it's just one of those where you pick him 463 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: up and you love the first couple of starts and 464 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: you just pray you don't hear any news about. 465 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 3: HIM i had a d for. 466 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: ME i Got zardo And tyler McGill and they both 467 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: got injured on the same, day AND i. 468 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: Was SO i was so. 469 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 4: Upset you guys are both just lowered Your you've both 470 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: a lowered YOUR x. Plug SO i just want You, 471 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: yeah THAT'S x plug. 472 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: LOWER i THINK i had like FOUR x plugs in 473 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: this episode so. Far that's my ex plug. 474 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: Four of who should do a shot every time we say, 475 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: it we should Do Lance linn next on the, show 476 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: because that's another, Guy Gee little's. Teammate WHERE i get. 477 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: It last year was absolutely dreadful first seven starts seven FIVE. 478 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: ERA i was buying him everywhere AND i told PEOPLE 479 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: i did a video here about it last year on 480 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: the YouTube. CHANNEL i, said, look just for the second, 481 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: half just buy. Him, okay he's he's a picture that's 482 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: been around. Forever we have to just trust he's gonna turn. 483 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: AROUND i guess what two fifty TWO era over the 484 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: last fourteen starts in the second half last, year so 485 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: you seven for The whip went from one point five 486 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: for those first seven two point nine to. Eight So 487 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: i'm not really. Concerned BUT i think what happens is 488 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: people just look at the bottom. Line they'll look at 489 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: when they got last year out of them or they, 490 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: didn't or the frustrations or the fact that he's an older, 491 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: picture and those guys tend To we've seen it With Charlie. 492 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: Morton year over, Year we've seen a lot of the 493 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: guys the older pictures get, take you, know kind of 494 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: push to the side and they're not as exciting as 495 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: The lodolo's or some of The Hazels lozardos of the. 496 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: World AND i get, that BUT i think at the same, 497 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: time lancelenn is a guy THAT i can plug in 498 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: there and get win. Potential he's going to hopefully make 499 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: thirty starts this, year AND i think that's a picture 500 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: THAT i, want and going at forty one right, now 501 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: one p thirty four, overall that's a PICTURE i think 502 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: is worth investing. In i'll give my last sleeper and 503 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: then we'll go back To. Nick we'll keep things moving 504 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: here before we. Do just a reminder too that draft 505 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: simulators out There Fantasy bros Dot com Slash Draft, Wizard 506 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: so if you want to see where these pictures are, 507 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: going go download The Draft wizard, app go To fantasypros 508 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: dot com slash Draft, wizard and start to get a 509 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: sense of where some of these guys ARE i, Mean 510 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: nick's giving you some deeper Sleeper i'm giving you some 511 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: guys more in that forty. Range but the next guy 512 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: on my list Is CODE Ii, senga who's going is 513 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: the eighty six pitcher overall to eighty four as the overall. 514 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: PLAYER i saw the footage of the ghost fork Against 515 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: Pete alonzo. Yesterday P alonzo had some really interesting things 516 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: to say about, it and he's a pretty goodhir last 517 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: TIME i. CHECKED i understand that there's always that concern 518 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: when you have a picture coming over From japan about 519 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: how is it going to hold up to the workload 520 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: taking the ball her fifth. Day it's a different, schedule 521 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: it's a different. Universe BUT i think at the same, 522 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: time he is too low in drafts right. Now so 523 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: if you're doing early drafting best, ball anything like, That 524 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: i'm jumping on this guy because even if he's brilliant 525 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: in the first, half that's enough to trade him in 526 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: and go look for other things in a regular early 527 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: draft format non best. Ball so to, Me i'm investing all, 528 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: over and if you get a good first half out of, 529 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: him he's going to pay back THAT adp in bastball, 530 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: Anyway so go look For, Senga Nick. Pollock i'm fascinated 531 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts On senga before you get to 532 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: your next. 533 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: Guy guess who he's facing in his first game of the. 534 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: Year you love. 535 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: This nick is playing the first game of the, season 536 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: and then after that he's gonna Say i'm the. WINNER 537 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: i won every, league and he's gonna walk away from 538 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: all of. 539 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: THEM i love this well well, no but think about it, 540 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: though when you're in your, leagues how many times do 541 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: you pick up. 542 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: Guys in the first two three. 543 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: Weeks the fluidity Of april is so, important especially with 544 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: the guys at the end of your drafts that you 545 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: aren't expected to hold on. To so go after the 546 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: similar upside players who you also get value out. Of 547 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: and he gets The marlins. First that's a start WHERE 548 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: i don't know exactly what we're going to get from Quode, 549 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 2: asena BUT i would love to test it out and 550 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 2: see against The Miami. Marlins So i'm a huge fan 551 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: of this. ONE i actually have Quote asena in my 552 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 2: fifties from my top one. 553 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: Two it's funny because three on my ranks AND i 554 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: Just welsh just updated his. Rankings i've got him in 555 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: the top. FIFTY i don't know Where welsh has, him but, 556 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: yeah get, TOGETHER i wonder, Now, yeah go, ahead you 557 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: check that. Out in the, Meantime, nick give us your 558 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: final sleeper and then we'll move on to the bus 559 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: at starting pitcher. Out it's. 560 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: WILD i don't know if he's actually a sleeper at 561 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: this point Because i've heard a lot of things and 562 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of helium Toward Drew. Rasmussen but 563 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: we ran our projections and our. METRIC plv absolutely Adores. 564 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: Erasmussen cutter slider are both phenomenal throws hard as well 565 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: avoids a lot of hard. 566 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 3: Contact is part of a winning ball. 567 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: Club with The Tampa Bay, rays could be SOMEONE i 568 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 2: don't really care what the first start is with. HIM 569 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: i think this is actually more about the whole product 570 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: of what he does and how The rays can extract 571 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: the best version of him moving. Forward there's just so 572 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: much the like missing bats that he hasn't done quite. 573 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: Yet and the reason why you have durrasmusen to fifty 574 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: two right now is because he hasn't missed as many 575 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: bats as we think he. 576 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: Should so all of a. 577 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: Sudden you could, blink and he has a twenty five 578 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: to twenty six percent strikeout rate for a winning ball 579 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: club without any rate that's ever been over three to 580 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: five and a one to ten. Whip wait a, second 581 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: that's a stud here at fifty two for starting. Pitchers 582 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: So I'm i'm trying to Chase erasmusen WHEREVER i. 583 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: Can it's a it's a good, point AND i think 584 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: if the helium goes let's say another six to seven, 585 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: spots is that, well he's part. 586 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: Of that plump for, me as Like, gilido As Chris sale. 587 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: As though so depends if you want to take more 588 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: risk Like giulido And sale or you want to do 589 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: something a little bit safer Like. Rasmus it depends on 590 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: how the draft is. 591 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Made all, Right, well close us out here on the. 592 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Sleepers who's your last? 593 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: One by the, way on SAYING i have him at fifty, 594 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: five so that's Where i've got. 595 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: Him, omber there he. 596 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: Go if we're in that that same general VICINITY, Tdfpi, 597 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: right we're. 598 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: GOOD i don't think. 599 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 4: SO i think they just released. IT i have no. 600 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: Idea, Yeah i'm just making up words. Again see this. 601 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: Guy, yeah that's THE x, plug the X tgfa. Guy 602 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: everybody knows if they've been listening to me this. Offseason 603 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: in one, WAY i was going to bring this guy, 604 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 4: Up so let's just do it In sleepers because it 605 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 4: falls under, that even THOUGH i would also say this 606 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 4: is like a must have for. Me It's Jeffrey. Springs Jeffrey, 607 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 4: SPRINGS i kind of talk about all of the other. 608 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: Plays he's actually one spot higher Than, rasmussen So i'm 609 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 4: going to take that side of. IT i think one 610 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: of the biggest arguments against him is the, innings as 611 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 4: they pushed him out last, year but he got to 612 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 4: one thirty. FIVE i think projections are selling him low 613 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 4: anywhere from the one twenties to one. FORTIES i think 614 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 4: he could push one. 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Curious at fifteen to, Twenty i'm definitely listening 669 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: and willing to take that. Leap but at five it's. 670 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: Nuts it's. NUTS i have seen or SHOULD i, say 671 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: not seen enough Of Jacob degram over the last two, 672 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: years and, look there's no debate when this guy is, 673 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: right he is. Unhittable he is special beyond. Belief the 674 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: numbers are. Insane that's like setting some kind of WEIRD, 675 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: mlb the show setting and everyone else is terrible and 676 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: you're the greatest thing. Ever that's what Watching Jacob degram is. 677 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: Like but unfortunately it's him going out there and the 678 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: fact that we got off to his rocky start really 679 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: just kind of is driving this. Home. NOW i don't 680 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: know the next couple of, weeks if it takes a 681 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: while for him to ramp. Up if he's not throwing anytime, 682 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: soon what this is going to go to do to HIS? 683 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: Adp and if it does start to shift in the 684 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: next week or, so Then i'm gonna be more intrigued 685 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: with this EARLY adp of. Him five overall AT SP 686 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: i can't get. THERE i won't get. There i'm just 687 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: not gonna do. It, Nick i'd love to hear your 688 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: thoughts on de gram because, look nobody's debating how good 689 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: this guy. Is it's off the. Chart it's something like 690 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: almost we've never. Seen it's Like cofax esque at. Times 691 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: so is this price too much for? You or are 692 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: you taking the sleep of faith even though he's gotten 693 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: off to already an auspicious. 694 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: START i, MEAN i don't draft pictures in the first 695 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: two rounds, anyway BECAUSE i think the values and hitters 696 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: at that. 697 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: Point but, agreed IF i am going to do, it that's. 698 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: Good, see and that's on the guy picture, list that's 699 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: literally The twitter. 700 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: Handle, well my strength is getting, Pictures So i'm not 701 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: going to pay for them right right IF i, Were 702 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: i'm not going to take the one that has the 703 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: biggest risk of busting for me by. Injury, Right so 704 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: why it doesn't make sense to me to have to 705 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: chase that WHEN i can have all these other great 706 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: pictures that are more secure to get me value through the. 707 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: Year so as much AS i want to Have jacob 708 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: De ground on my team because my, gosh he's so 709 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: fun to, watch, incredible it's just too risky for. 710 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: Me And i'm kind of rooting for The rangers a. 711 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: LITTLE i think it's gonna be. Fun if The rangers are, 712 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: Better they've got some decent, talent then they've got actual. 713 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: Rotation they have more depth than The angels, Do i'll 714 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: tell you that. Much they like top to bottom as a. 715 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: Roster they got more. Depth they don't have the. 716 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: Wings though they don't have the. 717 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: Wings Where's Tony danzel when you need? Them? 718 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 5: All? 719 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: Right, Hey, nick give us. 720 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: Your next favorite bust you, Got, NICK. 721 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: I got voice, shoes the same idea you throw, in 722 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: the same idea of injury risk With Max, suser but 723 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: also the the fact that his stuff is getting a 724 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: little bit worse a year to. 725 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: Year his fastball as the. 726 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: Client we saw what happens when the home runs actually 727 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: become a. Problem in the playoffs against The, padres it 728 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: was as if all of his home run regression through 729 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: the season just snapped in one moment as he allowed 730 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: what was it. 731 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: Five home runs in that game against The. Padres do 732 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: we have to relive these? 733 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: THINGS i don't. 734 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: KNOW i wouldn't be shocked if if we saw some 735 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: sort of regression again From schurzer this way AND i 736 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: see the two twenty ninety array and the point ninety one. 737 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: Whip and he, think, no he's just absolutely Stud how 738 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: can you ever think? 739 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: THAT i, understand And i'm not saying that the quality 740 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: of winning will be not great For Max, scherzer But 741 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: i'm seeing him go in the top ten a, lot 742 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: AND i think people aren't realizing how many amazing pitchers 743 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: are in the top. Twenty That i'm not going to 744 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: go up to pick eleven to Get Max. SCHERZER i 745 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: have to wait until maybe seventeen eighteen to do. That 746 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: AS i was originally more aggressive On sureser and my 747 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: updated rankings and now have him further, BACK i think 748 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: That surezer is a too high of a potential bust 749 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: for me to be chasing in. 750 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: Draft you Like verlander if you're talking about the more. 751 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: Than, Sureser, YES i. 752 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: AGREE i, agree and the quantity Of suresers in question, 753 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: Two i'm more confident in the quantity of innings is 754 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: going to get out of Well verlander THAN i Am 755 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: Sureser welsh who is on your bus? List AND i 756 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: gotta tell you this first name of YOURS i don't. 757 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: LIKE i like the second name either to tell you the. 758 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 4: Truth you don't like THAT i have them on, there or. 759 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: You agree with because these are two guys THAT i 760 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: think are right in that sweet spot Where i'm happy 761 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: to get. 762 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: Him, great you're doing, Great. Welsh don't let sour grapes. 763 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: Welch it's, There it's, fine keep. 764 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: Going, yeah what's happening? 765 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: Here? 766 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 4: Dylan See dylan See. 767 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: Sandwich. 768 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: YEAH i don't like the, high the super high walk. 769 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 4: Rates it's almost four walk per. Nine this past year 770 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: he had a two TWO, era a three five X, 771 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: fip which is quite a bit. Different left on base 772 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 4: percentage is not going to be. Sustainable it's like eighty 773 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 4: two percent this past. Year that's going to come down 774 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 4: a little. Bit strikeouts came down a little, bit, weighted 775 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 4: pretty heavy on fourteen. WINS i just think he's just, 776 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 4: volatile AND i don't THINK i need that kind of 777 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 4: like what you guys are talking about with De gram 778 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 4: in that general. Vicinity what's the great thing About Dylan. 779 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 4: Cees it's like elite, strikeouts BUT i think it screws 780 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: with your. WHIP i don't know if the winds are 781 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: going to be. MAINTAINABLE i don't like the walks just in. 782 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: GENERAL i think eight losses in there is something to 783 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 4: kind of stare at a lot that's left on the, 784 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 4: table and there's a little bit of luck factor in. 785 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 4: THERE i just look AND i, GO i don't NEED 786 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 4: i don't care about the elite strikeouts in that respect 787 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: because there's a lot of good pictures that can kind 788 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 4: of swing and fly in around that. Area and he 789 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 4: doesn't fall into a spot WHERE i ever actually draft. 790 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 4: HIM i would rather reach a little. BIT i might 791 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 4: be on my. Own i'd rather reach a little bit 792 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: from McLanahan And strider than even care About ceas Or 793 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 4: i'd rather wait and sit back and get players Like Luis, 794 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: Castillo Joe musk Rob he JUST i think like that 795 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 4: is the. Peak thirteen is like the peak of where 796 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 4: he's going to, Be AND i think the volatility of 797 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 4: who he is as a pitcher has like outside the 798 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: top twenty, downside if you, WILL i just silenced the. 799 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: Room, yeah, NO i think a little out glitch. There but, 800 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: here here's here's my question for you and Drop Nick 801 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: pollock when it comes To Dylan. Cees Dylan, ceese clearly 802 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: if you look at the, splits you, know first, half second, 803 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: half you, know still pretty, close except the strikeout rate 804 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: did decline the second half or? That? 805 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: Right? 806 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah is that a signal to you of What welsh 807 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: is talking? About? 808 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: Man, ANYWAY i don't know if you remember me last 809 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: winter saying That Dylan ce's was not going to be. 810 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: Anything OBVIOUSLY i was. 811 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: WRONG i did not expect him to increase his slider 812 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: usage as much as he, did because the fastball in 813 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: the curve are still not nearly as good as we 814 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: want them to. Be he leans so heavily on that slider, 815 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: guy it's on his strikeouts with. 816 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: It it's. Great but the walk rate is still. 817 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: There it's so, rare As welsh, mentioned for someone have 818 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: such a high walk. 819 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 3: Rate and be that. 820 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: Successful the whip is going to be that problem you. Can, 821 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: yeah as you, said the strikeout ray wasn't even there 822 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: in the second. Half how much can we really buy into? 823 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: This so in the, END dc is comical to me 824 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 2: at this draft. 825 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: Spot All, Right. 826 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be labor this next one BECAUSE 827 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: i already kind of touched on it Was Chris, sale 828 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: Because I'm nick makes a good. POINT i came, back 829 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: he was ready to, go but again another. Injury But 830 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: i'm also looking at the age Of. Sale i'm looking 831 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: at the what he's got ahead of him here with 832 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: This Boston Red sox, team WHICH i think is going 833 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: to be a, difficult trying season, potential and they're looking 834 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: up in that division at, three possibly four teams that 835 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: are better than them right. NOW i, mean we could 836 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: joke about The orioles all we, want but last year 837 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: The orioles were no. Joke The oriols showed up to, 838 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: play and there's some more help coming from The orioles 839 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: and guys Like Gunnar henderson And grace And. Rodriguez So 840 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: i'm looking At Chris sale And i'm just, saying, okay 841 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: on a nightly, basis when he goes out there and 842 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: some of these matchups he's gonna, have AND i know 843 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: it's the balance schedule against it's a little Less Al 844 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: east Centric i'm just concerned That I'M i going to 845 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: get twenty five stars out Of chrisale at this stage 846 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: in his. CAREER i think that's a real. Question and 847 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: this is kind of like the De gram situation, too 848 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: where it's DO i want to pay for? That and 849 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: where he's? Going And nick has been talking quite a bit, about, 850 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: well this clump of pitchers, here he's in the same 851 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: group Of Lucas, Gilito Joe, Ryan Charlie, Morton Jeffrey, springs 852 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: Drum rasmus AND i like pretty, single LIKE i like 853 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: a lot of these pictures in this, range And freddy Per. 854 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: Alta If i'm looking for upside, man that guy's got. 855 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: It Chris sale is more just a wing and a, 856 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: prayer AND i just don't THINK i can get there 857 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: in that same group of. Pictures had he been after 858 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: these pictures and AM i getting a little bit bigger, 859 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: Discount i'd be all in AND i think he's worth it. 860 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: There but to, me that's the spot WHERE i JUST 861 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: i still can't draft him over some of those, guys 862 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: and they've already all those guys are basically on our 863 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: list we just talked about for the sleeper, List SO 864 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: i think that becomes a tough spell. 865 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 4: Too let me ask you who do you think pitches 866 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 4: more innings this? Year Chris, Salor Jeffrey. Springs that's a 867 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: good rush, question of course it. 868 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: IS i, said that's the. 869 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: Hardest thing that we do in the off season is 870 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 2: trying to predict. Volume so whatever your gut, says, yes 871 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: that's the. 872 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 3: One Jeffrey. 873 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 4: Springs, Okay so Niol Jeffrey springs just for the Why? 874 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: No? 875 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 4: Wrong all? 876 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: RIGHT i mean what bigger picture on? Sale? Nick we 877 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: heard for out All chris sales career that eventually he 878 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: was going to break. Down, Right it didn't happen as 879 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: soon as everybody thought it was going. To and NOW 880 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: i remember In Tim linsikhm's, career all we heard was 881 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: he's going to break. Down it's going to be terrible, 882 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: someday and then it. Was it happened a little. Sooner 883 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: is this just everybody eventually just being right or you? 884 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: Know and of course that was. 885 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 2: A lot of the w, mechanics which is essentially the 886 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: way that you'd bring back both of your elbows and, 887 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: everything which everyone. Does that was something of a decade. 888 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: Ago BUT i completely understand all the hesitation of. Sale 889 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 2: and this is past that point WHERE i could call 890 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: the cliff in drafts WHERE i need to have at 891 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: least four guys before this THAT i trust through the. 892 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: Year AND i feel in your twelve teamers that you 893 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 2: have guys that you draft the four of them that 894 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: you actually hold on, to and everything else is you 895 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: trying to do the burning turn until you find like 896 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: an amazing. 897 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: Rotation and so If i'm chasing, sale it is for. 898 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: That it's possible it might work, out it might, not 899 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 2: and that's. Okay just don't hold on too long if 900 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 2: it doesn't work. 901 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: Out that is, fair all? Right So, nick give us 902 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: another picture on your list here of bus for twenty. 903 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: THREE i am not Touching tristan. McKenzie i am so, sorry. 904 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: BUDDY i will say he's one of the few THAT 905 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 2: i really care. About best shape of your, life because 906 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: if he actually adds mass to, him he might get 907 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: more stability when it comes to pitching mechanics and allow 908 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: him to locate more consistently because he considering he was 909 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty pounds last. 910 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 4: Year but ALSO i feel lost. 911 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 3: Weight wouldn't that be? Cool? 912 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 4: YEAH i don't, interrupted but wouldn't that be? Awesome they're, like, maybe, 913 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 4: kids he came, in he lost like one, hundred he 914 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 4: lost like fifteen pounds of his. Camp we're, like what. 915 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 2: What do we do when he turns to to his 916 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 2: delivery all of a sudden disappears for a moment. 917 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 3: Exactly BUT i. 918 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: Know tristan McKenzie is. FASTBALL i don't think is nearly 919 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: as good as it performed last. Season he was inconsistent 920 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: with his curve, ball bounce far too many and that 921 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 2: SLIDER i, mean you flip a coin if it's there 922 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: on a given, day AND i think he got away 923 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: with a lot last year. YEAR plv does not like. 924 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: Him our projections have him as a four. EARRA i 925 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: think he's going far too early in. Drafts And tristan 926 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: McKenzie is someone that could actually continue to develop and 927 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: prove me very. Wrong but if he replicated exactly what 928 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: he did last season from stuff wise and, EVERYTHING i 929 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: think he will not have the same fortunate results for. 930 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: Him, Okay tristan McKenzie certainly a very trendy pick this 931 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: year after a big strikeout total tough to square up, 932 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: to not a lot of hits given up by, him but, 933 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: look certainly the frame is something we could talk about 934 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: for days and. Days he's been able to overcome. That 935 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: we shall, See, well should give you another guy on 936 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: your bus list for twenty? Three who is? It you? 937 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 4: KNOW i also say, PHILOSOPHICALLY i find it really hard 938 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 4: for pictures outside like the top thirty or thirty five 939 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 4: to be like labeled like bus just based on. Cost 940 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 4: you know What i'm, Saying like they of COURSE i, 941 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 4: can but when you really are focusing on like pictures 942 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: that were major, Disappointments that's WHY i tend to focus 943 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 4: and kind of look at the top. End and one 944 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 4: of those guys that this is really two pieces that 945 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 4: are battling against each other Is Shane. Bieber and if 946 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 4: you're playing in like a quality starts, league it's fantastic 947 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 4: points for going longer. Innings that's probably pretty. GOOD i 948 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 4: don't like by the, way he's right next To, sea 949 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 4: so him And seize are next to each, Other so 950 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 4: you can tell that's a range whe of pitchers THAT 951 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 4: i don't. WANT i don't like like across the board 952 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 4: velocity decreases with every single. PITCH i also don't like 953 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 4: across the board spin, losses on every single. PITCH i 954 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 4: don't like those things with. Him the problem is he 955 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 4: is one of the best command pitchers in, baseball and you, 956 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 4: know he was, able he was able to buck the. Trend, 957 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 4: NICK i think you were with me everybody when we 958 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 4: saw THE vla was down and we saw the spin was, 959 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 4: down we were all, like, Sell, Sell, sell get the 960 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 4: hell out of. Here this is a huge worrisome. Thing 961 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 4: but the dude was able to kind of break through, 962 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 4: it you. KNOW i, mean he's still he hadn't expected 963 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 4: draws two, TWENTY i, think and he had expected the 964 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 4: area of two, seventy which is still really. Good his 965 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 4: sierra was a little bit. Higher it is higher Than Jeffrey. 966 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 4: SPRINGS i think it was like three four. Eight SO 967 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 4: i think those are early warning trend signs that this 968 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 4: isn't like a guy Like, kershaw you know, who Or. 969 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 4: Verlander we saw this in a couple different places with 970 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 4: pitchers where they have to learn to pitch with different like, 971 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 4: velocities and they have to learn to become different pitch 972 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 4: Like bieber's already that. Guy bieber is already a pinpoint 973 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 4: across the across his own type of. Pitcher but now 974 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 4: you're losing spin on your pitches and you're also losing 975 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 4: velocity across the. Board what else can you change? To 976 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 4: you just have to keep hitting your. POINTS i think 977 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 4: he's going to become more. Hittable he costs still a 978 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 4: pretty decent amount top FIFTEEN sp, overall And i'm just 979 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 4: not really here for. It so he's going to be 980 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 4: one of my. BUSTS i think it's going to be 981 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 4: hard for him to return a top FIFTEEN sp this. 982 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: Year All, Right mine's kind of like shooting fish in a. 983 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: BARREL i, mean the guy had sixteen wins last. Year, 984 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: Look i'm a sucker for strikeouts And Toty gonsolen's and 985 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: not exactly blowing the doors off in that. CATEGORY i 986 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: like guys and get out of jams by striking guys, out, 987 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: period end of. Story i'm not trying to take away 988 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: what he did last. YEAR i think it's great that 989 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: we could find guys in the league that can. Pitch 990 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: it's great for real. Baseball this IS us. Baseball that's my. 991 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: Problem SO I welsh. KNOWS i have my questions about 992 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: The dodgers this year, too about some of that depth 993 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: on that, team, Period AND i Think San diego is 994 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: going to give him all they can handle that. Division 995 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: but more to the, point once, AGAIN i think this 996 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: is the classic thing of this guy had an incredible 997 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: year where everything broke. Right DO i necessarily want to 998 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: go chase? THAT i think the answer is. No, again 999 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 1: in this range of forty sp, overall there's just other 1000 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: guys THAT i think we have way more, upside way more. 1001 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: Intrigue Nick, POLLOCK i can't tell if you were sipping 1002 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: the tea waiting to yell at, me or sipping the 1003 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: tea in. Agreement, Now, Oh. 1004 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 3: Gonsolin is sober valued right? Now oh. Man he was 1005 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 3: the number one benefactor of the. 1006 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: Shift we have a stat called hit, luck which essentially 1007 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 2: says how many hits. 1008 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: You should hear making us game on. 1009 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 3: Us it's, amazing it's so. 1010 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 2: Cool USES pov to, say base on the pitches you, 1011 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: threw how many hits should you have? Allowed Tony gonson 1012 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: was one hundredth. Percentile he allowed over fifty more hits 1013 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 2: than you should have last, year which was essentially about 1014 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 2: eighty percent of the amount off its he actually, allowed 1015 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: which is about seven. 1016 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 3: Five it's. 1017 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: Insane he is not going to perform nearly the same 1018 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: way that he did this past. Year The doughters defense is. 1019 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 2: Worse the splitter got away with so much over the 1020 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 2: heart of the plate that it won't. 1021 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 3: Again i'm so far away From Tony gonsolan in Twenty. 1022 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 4: You're gonna hate me for. This you have a pictureless 1023 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 4: stat that's. Luck you should call it. Pluck i'm just, 1024 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 4: saying please call, it actually considered. 1025 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 3: It i'm not even. 1026 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: Joking genius through every single word that started with Pl. 1027 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 3: Okay it is hit luck because it's just much more 1028 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 3: easier to. Understand there you. 1029 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: Go all, Right, nick give us your final bust at 1030 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: the sp market before we get to our mustaves coming. 1031 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 2: UP i have a friend of, Mine Stephen, lyman WHO 1032 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: i met At First Bitch arizona. Doctor he's incredibly smart 1033 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 2: and knows everything about, injuries and he is terrified Of 1034 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: Freddy peralta and his shoulder. 1035 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 3: Injury AND i. 1036 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 2: Have to agree with him on this. One and we've 1037 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 2: seen multiple guys have shoulder injuries and they just are 1038 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 2: not the. Same after look At Frankie mantes right now we, thought, 1039 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 2: oh you'll be all right for the. 1040 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 3: Season it's. Okay now he's missing. 1041 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: Time you See Aaron ashby's shoulder now missing, months and 1042 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: we saw that From Freddy perraulta last. Year we saw 1043 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: it From Jack flaherty missing a lot of. TIME i 1044 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 2: am just staying away from. THIS i know how Good 1045 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: Freddy perolta is on a quality per inning, basis but, 1046 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: boy it just feels like a. HEADACHE i can just 1047 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 2: easily remove myself. From i'm staying away From Freddy. 1048 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: Peralta so even though down the stretch things were pretty 1049 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: good for, him that wasn't enough to convince. 1050 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 3: You, nope he didn't get. 1051 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 2: Enough he had that one final start that was finally 1052 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 2: At believe four innings where he had over fifty, pitches 1053 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: but it's not enough for. Me i'm terrified that he 1054 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 2: didn't get. Surgery he didn't do anything to repair. It 1055 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 2: it was just a it'll be. Fine we just got 1056 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 2: to rest and. Rehabit this is not something that just goes. 1057 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 3: Away. 1058 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: Well what was so interesting is the sixth starts he 1059 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: had In august That kate per nine was all the 1060 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: way down the seven and then. 1061 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 3: He went back on the il and then, yeah. 1062 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: That's a shame. Too ali Per alta is, look, man 1063 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 1: that is a cutting. Talent but we've seen this. Before 1064 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: just you gotta be able to stay on the. Field 1065 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: you gotta take the mound every fifth, day all. Right 1066 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: welsh closes out, here who's the last bus for? 1067 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 4: You people might not like this one because he there's 1068 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 4: a point WHERE i actually think it was kind of 1069 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 4: a value here coming into thirty two on The fantasy PROS, 1070 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 4: Adp i'm gonna Put Kyle wright on the. Board a couple, 1071 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 4: reasons a couple of reasons in, here And Kyle wright 1072 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 4: pretty blue on The baseball savon page if you look 1073 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 4: in hard hit hard hit percentage a little bit. Weighted 1074 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 4: he also gave up that O'Neill cruise, hit so HIS 1075 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 4: maxiv is one twenty two point four if you look 1076 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 4: on giving up. Here but also like average exivelocity lower 1077 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 4: thirty five percent tile xdrix wolba under the fifty percent 1078 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 4: tile XBA k percentage is like just average. Overall, also 1079 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 4: this is just not a strikeout. PLAYER i mean it's 1080 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 4: under NINE k per, Nine SO i think that gives 1081 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 4: it takes away a little bit of the wiggle. Room 1082 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 4: he also had an EXPECTED dra that was close to 1083 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 4: three point ninety or you, know three point nine versus 1084 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 4: his three point one and he's waited so heavily on 1085 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 4: twenty one. Wins we saw this With Ian kennedy. Before 1086 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 4: how many guys are going to pull back on the? 1087 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 4: WINS i think you Obviously i'm not breaking any news, 1088 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 4: here but like you have thirteen, wins you're gonna lose 1089 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 4: a ton of your overall. Value he doesn't strike out 1090 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 4: a whole, bunch but he does have the context of The. 1091 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 3: Braves which is. 1092 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 4: Cool it's just like thirty two seems a little bit 1093 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 4: high for him And i'm not going to be into. 1094 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 4: It he, also just LIKE i, said he gets hit pretty. 1095 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 4: HARD i think there was some luck factor and some 1096 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 4: big changes that. Happened SO i will probably be Avoiding 1097 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 4: Kyle wright if it's going to cost me a top 1098 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 4: thirty five sp. 1099 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: Pretty good defensive. Team if you're gonna get hit, around 1100 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: at least you're with The. Braves you, know the team's 1101 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: a lot of run, support a lot of run. Support 1102 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: they catch the. Ball, LOOK i got to, understand you, 1103 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: know there's some flukyss into winning twenty. Games you don't 1104 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: see a lot of guys win twenty games, anymore but 1105 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: the fact that you do that to, me it knows 1106 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: you know how to find outs in the lineup and 1107 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: you know where to get. Them, nick what do you 1108 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: think About Kyle? 1109 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 2: Wright, No, NO i Had gonsolin and right on my, 1110 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 2: list and THEN i had to change it because you 1111 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 2: guys both put them off. 1112 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: For, me AND i said it to you at the same. 1113 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 3: Time you know THAT i, know AND i. Forget, LOOK 1114 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 3: i can't do this for. 1115 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: Days that's. 1116 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 2: Empty i'm amplifying your, stances which is. Wonderful heart contact 1117 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: rate of twenty percent For Kyler wright last year was 1118 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 2: one hundred twentieth in the majors among all the top 1119 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 2: two hundred starting, pitchers one thirty seven IN. Plv that 1120 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: is below average, stuff essentially From Kyler wright not going 1121 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 2: to sustain. Itself the main concern we had With Kyler 1122 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 2: wright entering last year was at his command was just 1123 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,760 Speaker 2: not good. Enough it wasn't when we saw him before 1124 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 2: and we were thinking that he was going to adapt this. 1125 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 3: Year it really wasn't that. Good it was just a 1126 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,439 Speaker 3: curve ball that got over the plate. 1127 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 2: ENOUGH i really don't think there's enough to depth inside 1128 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 2: his arsenal For Kyler wright to survive like this. 1129 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,919 Speaker 3: Again i'm very much. 1130 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 2: OUT i BELIEVE i have him in the, fifties so 1131 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 2: to see him at thirty two or thirty one is 1132 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: far too high for. 1133 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: Me all, right let's talk about our must. Halves is 1134 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: gonna be. Easy i'm just gonna run down my three real. 1135 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: Quick Christian javier is the first. One everybody who knows 1136 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 1: me it was my guy last year and everyone, said 1137 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: but he's not in the. ROTATION i said yet, yet 1138 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: just give it. Time it's going to. Happen and guess 1139 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: what it. Did and if you took him at his 1140 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: cost last, year it was. Crazy he is AT sp 1141 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: twenty two right now AND i still want him. Regardless 1142 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: he's a must have for. ME i understand we could 1143 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 1: talk about what the second half could be with innings 1144 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: and all that stuff as it piles, up but he 1145 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: is just so. ELECTRIC i want the talent on my, 1146 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: team and he's a must in any kind of. Startup 1147 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: they're a. Keeper Dynasty league. Draft Louis severino is next 1148 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: on my list at number thirty three overall at the 1149 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 1: SP's ONE zho nine overall. TOTAL i think Sever reno 1150 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,959 Speaker 1: is a good spot Because cole And rodin now really 1151 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: get all the, Attention severino can just kind of get 1152 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: back to being. Himself it was very encouraging what he 1153 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: did last year coming off the. Injury another year removed 1154 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: from The Tommy JOHN i think will only be better 1155 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: here for Sever. Reno SO i think when you're looking 1156 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: at players in those good, ecosystems good, Teams severno is 1157 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: one of those. Guys AND i think the fact he 1158 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have to carry a rotation like he did a 1159 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: few years ago Before Garrett cole got, THERE i think 1160 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot less pressure on him AND i think 1161 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 1: that's good. Mentally And Joe ryan number forty, six starting pitcher, 1162 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 1: overall one forty. Eight Joe, ryan to, ME i think 1163 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: is one of these. Guys it's just slowly chipping away 1164 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: at being a very good, pitcher AND i think there's 1165 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 1: possibility he takes a leap this. YEAR i think That 1166 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: minnesota team is very, good AND i think you're gonna 1167 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: Get you look at last, year you know the three five, 1168 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: five you already the one ten. Whip you saw all 1169 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: the earmarks of a guy starting to figure it. Out 1170 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't always, perfect BUT i think this is a 1171 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: player that's heading in the right. DIRECTION i want him 1172 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: on my team when he Does. Welsh let's get to 1173 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: your must have. Guys who we, Have, yeah let's do. 1174 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 4: It the top of the LIST i have higher than, 1175 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 4: most SO i kind of view him as a must 1176 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 4: have It shay, McClanahan AND i know it's tough to 1177 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 4: be like a top ten pitcher you must. 1178 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 3: Have it's just you can get, him you. 1179 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 4: CAN i think he's the top five OVERALL sp this, 1180 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 4: year and he seems to go and drop. DOWN i 1181 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 4: love the changes he. MADE A Baseball savant page is very. 1182 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 4: SEXY i bet the pictureless pages are very sexy as. 1183 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 4: Well the change up was. Phenomenal everything he did he 1184 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 4: pounds his. OWN i am all About seane. McClanahan i 1185 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 4: must have BECAUSE i really think he could be the 1186 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 4: number one pitcher this year year coming in at number. 1187 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 4: Two i've Got Logan. Gilbert Logan gilbert has always been 1188 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 4: A i can throw whatever PITCH i want in any 1189 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 4: count WHICH i. Love of. COURSE i love the offensive 1190 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 4: editions In Taoscar. Hernandez they're on the. Team, defensively they're 1191 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 4: solid and if you hadn't Heard, Logan gilbert also looks 1192 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 4: like he's adding a splitter to his, repertoire which might 1193 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 4: open up some strikeout potential For Logan. Gilbert he's just 1194 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 4: a big. Force imagine a you, know a big splitter 1195 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 4: coming off of that six foot eight. Arm and then 1196 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 4: Finally i'm gonna tack it down With Blake. Snell oh, 1197 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 4: man my, Boy Blake. 1198 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: Snell, Man, Blake Blake. 1199 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 2: Snell everything we talked about, podcast well every One i've 1200 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 2: ever done with. 1201 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 5: You. 1202 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 4: DUDE i was doing a show WITH cbs And frank 1203 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 4: like he called on me to do, it AND i was, 1204 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 4: like what do we do? It like we're it's it's a. 1205 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 4: Problem it's a. Problem sport at some point is going 1206 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 4: to like call me out with him and it'll have 1207 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 4: to end most. 1208 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: Likely But Blake, snell you, know. 1209 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 4: Really solid second half last year two one nine versus 1210 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 4: five to two two on the. Front you have said, 1211 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 4: it everybody's said. It stopped throwing the stupid change up. 1212 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,720 Speaker 4: Please but also what we talked about with Like Dylan. 1213 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 4: Cees you saw those big like twelve you, know twelve 1214 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 4: k per, nine Which Blake snell had walks her a 1215 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 4: little bit, stupid a little bit over, Three but That's 1216 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 4: dylan ceas and why not get a guy that you 1217 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 4: get in the. Thirties why not Get Dylan cees at 1218 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 4: thirty six On fantasy PROS adp then paying thirteen for? 1219 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 4: IT a lot of win context is there as. Well 1220 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 4: you've Got Jan soto's in A bogart's in. There, DEFENSIVELY 1221 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 4: i think they look. Better you're gonna Put tatis out 1222 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,800 Speaker 4: in the right Field kim at Second, bogarts isn't it? 1223 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 4: SHORT i THINK i think the wins can pop. UP 1224 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 4: i think we can get to fifteen sixteen, wins twelve 1225 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 4: k per. Nine hopefully he stops throwing that stupid change. 1226 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 4: Up it just gets back to everything. Else And Blake 1227 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 4: snell really does have the potential to be a top 1228 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 4: fifteen sp this, year SO i think he's a must 1229 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 4: have coming in post top thirty. 1230 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 1: Sps all, right save the best for, Last Nick. Pollock 1231 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: the floor is. Yours who your three must have guys 1232 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: for twenty? 1233 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 3: Three so it Was Christian. JAVIER i think He's Spencer, 1234 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 3: strider but just a different. Name it Was Joe. Ryan 1235 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 3: love that, one really. 1236 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: Random Joe. 1237 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 3: Ryan he has a new sweeper THAT i. Like he 1238 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 3: was working. 1239 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 2: On fastball is. Fantastic the twins clearly like. It with him, 1240 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 2: There he's going to be able to start and go 1241 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 2: longer than most of their twins, pitchers and it's a 1242 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 2: good offense. There the whole situation is, just, Yeah i'll 1243 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 2: Have Joe ryan as MY sp four or five because 1244 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 2: he's going past. 1245 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,760 Speaker 3: Everybody else is at forty. 1246 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 2: Six i'd rather have him Than luzardo And Chris sale 1247 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 2: And Lucas julid and. Whatnot this is a thirty arm 1248 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 2: that's going to get me value through the, year while 1249 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,720 Speaker 2: the other ones are much more. Riskier so much, RISKIER 1250 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 2: i should. Say SO i love, Them Luisa, AVARINO i 1251 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 2: want to, love but the injury is. There sean McClanahan 1252 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 2: is so interesting BECAUSE i was worried about the, injury 1253 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 2: not worried about the. Injury Now I'M i Think i'm 1254 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 2: not worried about the. Injury so, yeah SO i me 1255 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 2: have For seay. McClanahan Logan gilbert doesn't have the secondary. 1256 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 2: Stuff we have a funny thing With fast where he 1257 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 2: does the image Of Bart simpson writing on the CHALKBOARD 1258 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 2: i will not believe in a picture because of a 1259 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 2: new pitch the spring And Logan Gilbert The splitter is 1260 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: the latest one for, us, right But i'm very excited about. 1261 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 2: That Blake snell profiles out as one of the HIGHEST 1262 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 2: plv guys we. Have his stuff is just insanely. Good 1263 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 2: the change it does seem to be. Gone problem is 1264 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 2: health With Blake. SNELL i believe and, Consistency SO i 1265 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 2: still Want Blake. Snell actually have him right around thirty 1266 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 2: four thirty, six SO i match, it BUT i want 1267 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 2: to chase. Him it's just, RISKIER i feel like THAN i. 1268 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 2: Can so my three Are George, kirby who has a 1269 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 2: better fastball in my view Than Logan. Gilbert you know 1270 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 2: believes It's Logan, gilbert so what DO i? Know BUT 1271 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 2: i think It's George kirby's nineteen percent swinging striker Against 1272 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 2: rady last, year which is insanely. Good and then he 1273 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 2: ALSO i feel like he's so close with his secondary 1274 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 2: stuff that he could really just run away with it 1275 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 2: and be at. Tomorrow Hunter green has the same skill 1276 00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 2: sets As javier And strider broke our. Models early projections 1277 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 2: had him as like a sub two Ear ray with 1278 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 2: us until we had to adjust. Properly But Hunter green 1279 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 2: is like to, me ready to break. Out he actually 1280 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 2: didn't allow a single hit with his fastball when elevated. 1281 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 2: It in the second half of last, year all of 1282 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 2: a sets were on fastballs that were. 1283 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,879 Speaker 3: LOW i, mean that's just that's. 1284 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 2: Insane and then the last one who's actually at sixty 1285 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 2: two right now Is. REDEBTMERS i really believe The Redebt 1286 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 2: meers is ready for a. Breakout HE'S i, believe going 1287 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 2: to turn twenty three this. Year he's super, young he 1288 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 2: has a really good curve, ball he can get his 1289 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 2: own and fast way he can. Elevate and when we 1290 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 2: saw him sixty last year is when his slider was getting. 1291 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 2: WHIFFS i remember chasing from the beginning of the year, Thinking, 1292 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 2: okay When demeris gets his whiffs on a, slider he'll be. 1293 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 2: Successful didn't quite have it in the, beginning got super 1294 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,800 Speaker 2: lucky in that note, hitter went to the, miners fixed, 1295 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 2: it fixed it with his. Shoulders his mechanics came back 1296 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 2: and had the slider whifs and was. Dominant he was 1297 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 2: an ace for like six. Weeks it was, amazing and 1298 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 2: then he ran into some. TROUBLE i think a little 1299 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 2: bit fatigue for the young. Guy by the end of the. 1300 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 2: YEAR i think this is. IT i think he's he's 1301 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 2: gone through that, adversity made the. Tweak they need to 1302 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 2: do showcase that he can fail and then succeed. Again 1303 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 2: Ree detmers is ready to sort of the, angels and 1304 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 2: he goes much later in drafts than the other. Guys 1305 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 2: SO i find myself Getting debtmos WHEREVER i. 1306 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: CAN i think it's funny because you said you were 1307 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: going to Put rye on your. LIST i almost Put debtmers. 1308 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: Online so that week ago it's a love fest here 1309 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: at the. Show nickoll. It you're the best of the. 1310 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 1: Best please everybody go follow him on The twitter machine 1311 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: at picture list and go check out p l pro 1312 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: on picture list dot. Com it's going to be. Fantastic 1313 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: If nick and his team are doing, it you know 1314 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 1: it's going to be high. 1315 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 4: QUALITY a, QUESTION i have a, Question, yick have you 1316 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 4: decided on this? Stat have we decided on the? 1317 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: Stat? OH i know what are we calling the stat 1318 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: For Justin? Mason since you passed, away it's it's p 1319 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: L vg p L, Vg so instead of a you 1320 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: to say this is P. Lvg, YEAH, ok and is? 1321 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: It we might have to change? 1322 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 4: It. 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