WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Could Rico Make The Team?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. He's talking Cowboys training

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<v Speaker 1>live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star

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<v Speaker 1>in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bill Jones. It is day number fourteen of Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>Camp twenty eighteen. Nine practices down, seven padded practices down,

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<v Speaker 1>Only seven more to go in this training camp. As

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett said at the outset of camp, this thing

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<v Speaker 1>goes fast, and you better make an impression. And some

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<v Speaker 1>tried to make an impression yesterday a practice you saw

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<v Speaker 1>live right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>day number fourteen of the do not Disturb sign at

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<v Speaker 1>the Room two twenty two of the Hotel Motel here

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<v Speaker 1>in Oxnard. I've still gone fourteen days now without any

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<v Speaker 1>housekeeping in my rooms? What so straight? I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. I actually live now. Now I know where

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<v Speaker 1>he is. I live twelve doors away from him. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the fact when we come in and been it

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<v Speaker 1>and I come back to twenty two? Okay? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>the old show show? Okay? I just gave up limat

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, what doing I have visitors to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not about to go on a worldwide I might

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<v Speaker 1>be by Bill, I might not be. But no, that

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't believe that. Someone which is like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have clean sheets? I've got two beds? Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>how often do you? How often do you wash yours?

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<v Speaker 1>In college? I probably went like a whole semester with

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<v Speaker 1>that college. Yeah, what about towels? I changed out the towels.

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<v Speaker 1>There's housekeeping in the hall so you just go grab some.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have a big pilot my towels, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do have it my workout towels from the morning. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got the small hand towels. He's yeah, oh I feel

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<v Speaker 1>good today. The housekeeping right in the hallway. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>grab some towns. What are you worried about? You haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen my room, So I don't have someone coming in

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<v Speaker 1>my room and messing up my system. What you got

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<v Speaker 1>a system on your bed? I've got a system on

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<v Speaker 1>my clothes over here. The dirty clothes are over there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have hangers. You ever seen monk You sound

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<v Speaker 1>like that guy show Monk Man. It's the greatest luxury

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Nobody's coming in my room. He's so

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<v Speaker 1>proud about that. Yeah, I got well, I actually only

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<v Speaker 1>have two days left myself. Beau wouldn't know. We head

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<v Speaker 1>up the road. I'm actually driving up the road, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>A game on. I'm driving on Wednesday. So then when

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<v Speaker 1>you check out, they're gonna come in and fumigate them.

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<v Speaker 1>They will. It's not my problem, that's their problems. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But I digress right on. And by the way, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you driving because it's easier. I'm in on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just throw my stuff in my rental car. Boy, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't the rent a car. Now. Is that gonna spell

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<v Speaker 1>good man and down by yourself road? Yep, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>have told me i'd have gone with you. Well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason I didn't tell you. Yeah, maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>best point can be made all day. You'll regret that

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<v Speaker 1>about San Louis Obispo. I figured the team's find out lax, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I figure you're driving an hour and a half basically

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for the plane to get loaded with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>figure it's just about as quick driving five hours up

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<v Speaker 1>the road as with you on this one traveling with

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<v Speaker 1>the team. Yeah, all right, we had a blue white

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<v Speaker 1>practice and twelve play scrimmage or they're about yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe we should dive into that right off the top.

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<v Speaker 1>One takeaway. Let's start with Mickey. I'll say what I

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<v Speaker 1>said to you when we closed the show yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was like kind of an even practice. There

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<v Speaker 1>were times when the offense, I thought, excelled and made

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<v Speaker 1>some nice plays and moved the football, and then there

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<v Speaker 1>were times when the defense dominated. And I know what

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<v Speaker 1>happens in those things that the turnovers always stick out.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, the Cowboys ran the ball well. Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott ran the ball well. He got in the end

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<v Speaker 1>zone twice, but there was a couple other times where

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing the little touch up silliness. They weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to tackle him, all right, He won't getting tackled

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<v Speaker 1>at the five yard line by one guy. So I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was encouraging that they ran the ball well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, as I said, the defense made plays and

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<v Speaker 1>some guys stood up, stood out. I thought, the young guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know. The thing is, Mickey, I think hit

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<v Speaker 1>on what we needed to see from the varsity. The

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<v Speaker 1>junior varsity looked like the junior varsity freshman team. The

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<v Speaker 1>best quarterbacking on the field yesterday was Bill Jones sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at this desk getting everybody organized. Because I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>very good about what I saw with the young guys

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I mean, they didn't protect well enough, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't read well enough. Guys didn't help each other. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was disappointed in the overall the twelve place scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end, I was hopeful that the young guys,

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<v Speaker 1>these coaches give them opportunity to go out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the blue periods and stuff during practice and perform.

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<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't have been a surprise out there. It shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been that, you know. To me, I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Wyat and it looked like he missed a corner blitz.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like the receiver on that side and missed

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<v Speaker 1>a hot route. You know, these are things when you

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<v Speaker 1>play San Francisco on Thursday night, you're gonna get hit

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<v Speaker 1>in the back. Mike White, you better figure this out

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<v Speaker 1>real fast. If you're gonna run hots, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna blitz pick up, if you're gonna swing backs out,

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<v Speaker 1>you better get rid of the football. But I just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought overall, with the exception of Trey Williams running

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<v Speaker 1>the football. Aggie, Yeah, I just felt like offensively, they

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<v Speaker 1>were stuck in mud, you know, And I was expecting

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more out of those groups. I was

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<v Speaker 1>expecting a little bit more of a competitive period, and

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<v Speaker 1>it really wasn't that way. It looked like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of mistakes, a lot of errors, dropped snaps, interceptions. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>give the defense some credit, but you know, they really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to do very much against these quarterbacks. It

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<v Speaker 1>was sloppy. That scrimmage portion was sloppy, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did think Cooper Rush made some nice throws in practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Davon Austin probably had the play of training camp, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the two minute drill. Yeah, terrific, basically

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<v Speaker 1>plucking the ball off of Various Ward's head helmet and

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<v Speaker 1>he had a big day of the day before, big

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<v Speaker 1>play by Tavon Austin at the Rush made a nice

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<v Speaker 1>throw to Jarwin. I think he had a touchdown pass

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<v Speaker 1>to Lance Lenore. He he was more into it, I

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<v Speaker 1>think than we've seen in some other practices. Gamer we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about yeah, I mean, hey, it was televised, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we predicted it here, right. Yeah, so that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging for him going into this first preseason game where

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<v Speaker 1>we would expect him to play a lot. Sure there

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<v Speaker 1>were some mistakes offensively, but I give credit again to

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<v Speaker 1>some of these dbs that are flying around and making plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown with a terrific pick on Daku and you

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<v Speaker 1>saw him working outside because you know, good news for Cheeto.

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<v Speaker 1>He was out there doing a little something, but he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in team. So we saw a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>from Anthony Brown and uh, these dbs with the varsity

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<v Speaker 1>is Mickey said, you know, they're flying around and doing

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<v Speaker 1>some things. Yeah. I think that the play that the

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<v Speaker 1>interception that Dak through to Anthony Brown, great read on

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<v Speaker 1>his part to see where Beasley was playing zone coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>drops his zone and then drives on the football. But

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<v Speaker 1>Dad did him a favor. Dad shouldn't had no business

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<v Speaker 1>throwing that football just that way to that side of

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<v Speaker 1>the field. You know, either you're not going to hit hit,

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<v Speaker 1>act like you're taking the sack, or get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>it throw it away, but just to fire the ball

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<v Speaker 1>to the sideline in zone covery when you got a corner,

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<v Speaker 1>that knows how to drive. That's that's a reckless play

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<v Speaker 1>with the football, and he talked about he he can't

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<v Speaker 1>have those plays. Okay, let me ask you this about

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<v Speaker 1>the two minute drill. What have you seen out here,

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<v Speaker 1>not just yesterday but throughout camp as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>two minute offense goes, anything that sticks out from you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just to me, I mean, I get

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm getting at is I don't concern offensive lay

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the way they're executing in the two

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<v Speaker 1>minute offense. I think the thing that bothers me the

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<v Speaker 1>most about the two minute offense is they're not making

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<v Speaker 1>the plays down the field and then they're not making enough.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about the ball that did go to Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>To Austin though it was a nice but we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen much of that. The defense really has been kind

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<v Speaker 1>of they've been checking the ball, checking the ball, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the other and then all of a sudden you

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<v Speaker 1>get down in the red zone and what were it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the the the the struggles that wasn't There

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<v Speaker 1>was no struggles in the red zone yesterday. But we

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<v Speaker 1>to that point, we've have seen them drive the football

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<v Speaker 1>and then it turns into a Dan Bailey field goal,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're kind of like, okay, oh, it's good. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, let me ask you this this part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>because okay, that was a two minute drill right where

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<v Speaker 1>the situation was, I believe, let's say, on the Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Brown pick right, Okay, they're down four with two twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight to play, right, I got two timeouts left. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the way the drill is set up. It's a situation. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the defense playing a true two minute defense? Or

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<v Speaker 1>are are they being more aggressive than what you might

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<v Speaker 1>see in a game or what do you say? Not?

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<v Speaker 1>Just yesterday the interception on the two minute was zon

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<v Speaker 1>zone kind of was also fourth down? Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, so he's taken a t but it was

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<v Speaker 1>fourth Was it fourth? Well? Then that that was okay,

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down? You take a shot down the field. That

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<v Speaker 1>ball went directionally to the right and would have been

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<v Speaker 1>way short of what they're of the down and distance

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<v Speaker 1>to get. So to me, now that wasn't no way

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the one on fourth down and the

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<v Speaker 1>two minute drill was to Terrence Williams, the Anthony Brown

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<v Speaker 1>was a was a first and fifteen Okay, Yeah, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but the one on the two minute drill, it was

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down, he was rolling, he tried to throw on

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<v Speaker 1>the run. Yeah, the ball got tipped up. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Anthony Brown one. Yeah, okay, where he's jumping,

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<v Speaker 1>where he jumps the route? Right? Are they playing more

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively and are you getting a true read for what

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<v Speaker 1>this offense would be doing in a two minute because

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<v Speaker 1>the memory we all have a Tony Romo late in

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<v Speaker 1>his career. Sure he was a master at the two minute,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, but tricky lading the ball down the field. Whatever. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we cannot expect this offense right now to perform at

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<v Speaker 1>that level in a two minute offense because they got

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<v Speaker 1>so many new faces. They don't have the security blanket

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<v Speaker 1>a witt and run. Bill, tell you what, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're being nice, but but but I'm just saying this

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<v Speaker 1>early in camp, right, But we gotta start seeing. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta see that in preseason games before the regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I don't know if you will, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there'll be enough. I mean maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the maybe when we get back to Dallas and then

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<v Speaker 1>we have you know, you have games where Prescott and

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are playing more, you get a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a situation with that third game where they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing in through the half. Well, but but sometimes they'll

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<v Speaker 1>just go with you know, just fastball fastball that they call. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>are you saying you have a need to go to

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<v Speaker 1>receiver a two minute drill? There's well it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>get open. Yeah, And at some point they've got to

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<v Speaker 1>sort out what the roles are. And maybe it's not

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<v Speaker 1>time yet. We're we're a week plus in a training

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<v Speaker 1>camp and guys have been out too. But we had

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<v Speaker 1>Steven Jones on the on the telecast and he said

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's been tough on Dak or challenging in some

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<v Speaker 1>ways because they you know, they've been trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out who can do what that you know, that's been

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<v Speaker 1>interchangeable with a lot of these guys see what they

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<v Speaker 1>can do and then figure out what best roles there are.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've had Deonte Thompson out, Burns has been out

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days, has missed some time, Nolan Browns

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<v Speaker 1>as he practiced at all. Yeah, he's yesterday. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So that I mean you got different guys at at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain point during this preseason, they will settle on

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<v Speaker 1>who their first team guys are and they'll get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work. But I hope it's not they are

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<v Speaker 1>who they are. That's what maybe I mean, Yeah, I would,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's where I would worry a little bit about. No,

0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.320
<v Speaker 1>this is where it's gonna be. I you know, someone

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<v Speaker 1>asked me this morning on Twitter about, you know, will

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<v Speaker 1>Tavon Austin be the go to guy? And I believe

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<v Speaker 1>somebody on this panel, I'm sorry I can't remember who

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<v Speaker 1>did it, but said this might turn into a thing

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<v Speaker 1>where every week you have a different guy, or different

0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.360
<v Speaker 1>two or three guys might have been you just said that.

0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Dak actually said that, because it's just depended on what

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<v Speaker 1>the defense gives you. Yeah, there week there might be

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<v Speaker 1>guys that have great games one week and the next

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<v Speaker 1>week we don't hear from them. But somebody else has

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<v Speaker 1>to step up. This this committee approach that they're taking

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<v Speaker 1>to it, that that might be what they they have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Yeah, and you know, as long as that

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<v Speaker 1>might be Okay, you had a stat in your column

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<v Speaker 1>last week about the last time this franchise had four

0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.480
<v Speaker 1>receivers with twenty catchers or more I mean it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>barely happened. Yes, I mean only I went back the

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<v Speaker 1>whole way and it's only happened three times. Could we

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<v Speaker 1>see something like that? That's where they're headed right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And and then the tough part is if

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<v Speaker 1>we eliminate Noah Brown because he was just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in there to block. I don't know how many snaps

0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.800
<v Speaker 1>he got. But out of the dozen receivers, of thirteen receivers,

0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.120
<v Speaker 1>there's only two guys that were here last year. Yeah, right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Heasily and Terrence Williams. Four were around if you count

0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Lenora and North. Yeah, but he didn't play. Yeah, those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a vastly different group and it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>they brought in a salty veteran. But I will say

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<v Speaker 1>we have seen guys individually make plays out here. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Stephen was talking Gallup, We've talked about him. Hearns

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<v Speaker 1>has looked good at times, and we've seen guys show

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<v Speaker 1>they can play. Beasley's had a great camp, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But can you put it all together and find the

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<v Speaker 1>right spots for everybody? And kind of getting back to

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<v Speaker 1>what I said off the top, Jason Garrett said, but

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning of camp, he told the team, this

0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.920
<v Speaker 1>thing goes fast. I mean twin camp starts, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the big picture and you think, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>all We're gonna be here forever, you know. But now

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<v Speaker 1>we're sitting here day fourteen, and then I look at

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<v Speaker 1>the I wake up on a Monday morning and realize

0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.000
<v Speaker 1>they only got seven more practices out here. And when

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<v Speaker 1>when the games start, they get you know, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a Thursday and say and then it starts. Yeah, absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>So at one point as a coaching staff, do they

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<v Speaker 1>start toning in on Oh, I think I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>to the point now where initially you saw that first

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<v Speaker 1>week or so where they were coaching guys, not that

0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.840
<v Speaker 1>they don't coach guys, but you know, the corrections become.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a guy that's not getting it, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's not performing, it turns into okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>you got to worry as a player, if they if

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<v Speaker 1>they stop talking to you, you know, because that means

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<v Speaker 1>they're moving on to It's not it's not so much

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<v Speaker 1>that that the younger guys are gonna get cut. No,

0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.840
<v Speaker 1>they're here throughout camp, right, No cuts first or one

0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:14.800
<v Speaker 1>but but they they're formulating that right about Saturday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that after the San Francisco game. Yeah, absolutely right, who

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, I told you. I mean, I've sat in

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<v Speaker 1>that chair mind or they're behind the scenes, they've cut,

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<v Speaker 1>they're cutting the rocks. And if they're not and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not on, you know, they don't think they have

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<v Speaker 1>well what they think they have, well, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about guys. Mickey brought this up. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey was one of the first ones to recognize Antoine Woods,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who have been the guys all of a sudden. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're one of those guys that's performing well, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>throw you in the mix. They'll throw you in there

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<v Speaker 1>to see if you can you know, like I always

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<v Speaker 1>like to say, they'll throw you the deep end to

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<v Speaker 1>see if you can swim. You know. That's where that's

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<v Speaker 1>where it turns into, Like Saturday, it turns out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who am I gonna play in these Who am I

0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna play in these preseason games? Because you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play guys hey aren't doing a good enough job and

0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.240
<v Speaker 1>be don't know what they're doing. And that's a bad

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<v Speaker 1>combination for a lot of guys for a lot of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't go out there and look as bad as

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<v Speaker 1>some of those guys did in that scrimmage yesterday, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you play like that in San Francisco, you

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<v Speaker 1>will not be with us here till Saturday. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, they keep, they keep you, they keep. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're saying, as Will McClay and the guys, the

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<v Speaker 1>scouts are all looking at their personnel board with all

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<v Speaker 1>those tags with Jerry Jones you in your mind you

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<v Speaker 1>start taking tags and putting them off the board and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what does our team look like this way? What does

0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.080
<v Speaker 1>our team look like this way? You know? And and

0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Antoine Woods good for you. You go from a tag

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<v Speaker 1>down here to maybe a tag up there on the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three man board. That's that's some moves made around

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<v Speaker 1>the league. Corey Coleman gets traded for former first round

0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:55.360
<v Speaker 1>draft pick yesterday by Cleveland to Buffalo for a seventh round. See,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where things start to happen. You evaluate your

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<v Speaker 1>team the first week, going into the second week, you

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<v Speaker 1>play a game, and now it's going to turn into okay,

0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:05.800
<v Speaker 1>we can rely on this guy. We might need to

0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.119
<v Speaker 1>go Hey, we got a game. We really liked that

0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.480
<v Speaker 1>guy in Cincinnati. Let's go get that guy in Cincinnati,

0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.000
<v Speaker 1>or let's claim this guy off waivers right here. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna sit there and play with the same cats

0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that aren't doing the job. You know. But the difficult

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<v Speaker 1>part of that this year is there's no cuts, so

0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't make any adjustments mid stream. You gotta wait

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<v Speaker 1>to the weekend before you gotta put your fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>When you put your fifth, you could dump some guys

0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.800
<v Speaker 1>at the buck, but if no one else dumps, anybody could.

0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.720
<v Speaker 1>But usually the most action happens at the final cut

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<v Speaker 1>right right, and this rule does away more likely there

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<v Speaker 1>might be more trades with the With the rule change,

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<v Speaker 1>I think with people, I think people are more willing

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<v Speaker 1>now to say, okay, you're gonna I always say this.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the teams with new coaches. Look at the

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<v Speaker 1>teams like the Raiders, the Chicago new GM up in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>What does he do he you know, he didn't pick

0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that guy, he didn't pick Corey Coleman. He's probably thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a seventh round pick, come on, bring him on.

0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.320
<v Speaker 1>That's fine. But yeah, you gotta watch these teams. The

0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.080
<v Speaker 1>good teams will say, we'll be able to identify who's

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<v Speaker 1>not playing. Well, you keep talking about the number of

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<v Speaker 1>practices we've had. They have a pretty good idea of

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<v Speaker 1>who can he cannot play to this point. Now, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it changes when you get him in a preseason game

0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and tries to change their mind a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>who the gamers are like you saw, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>saw it when you mentioned Antoine Woods. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put Jahad Warred on. Notice, It's like, yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he took some snaps with the second but he also

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<v Speaker 1>took some snaps with the third. Yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>since the pads came on, he I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>he's done, but I guarantee you Marinelli wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>sit around and wait when he sees a young guy

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<v Speaker 1>playing the way Woods was playing. You know, the first

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<v Speaker 1>two plays of the scrimmage, he was in the backfield

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<v Speaker 1>making tackle. I'd like to think that he also gave

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<v Speaker 1>a little extracurricular jab to the face of the Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl perennial Pro Bowl Center too. Yeah, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to him afterwards. He was walked it off.

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<v Speaker 1>He was talking about it. He goes yeah, I kind

0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.119
<v Speaker 1>of get excited, and I said, but you're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to go out there and show what you can

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Brandon in Virginia. First up, I'm talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Brandon, Hey guys, um, I know you're having a

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<v Speaker 1>great day. Not gonna ask thank you. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmash game. It's really helped get get things in the

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<v Speaker 1>mood of we're back in football. And my question is,

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<v Speaker 1>with how impressive he wasn't practiced yesterday, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to Rico Gathers to in order to

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<v Speaker 1>give Dak a reliable target And hang up and let

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<v Speaker 1>you guys talk about it. All right? Thank you? Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>con the match about him and he was my man

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<v Speaker 1>of the match yesterday. And I'll tell you what the

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>thing about it. The great thing about Rico Gathers is

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:09.119
<v Speaker 1>if he could play in the red zone where he

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:11.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to go as far down the field, he

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 1>could be a weapon. There's no question about that. I mean,

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 1>he was the out and up move that he made

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to on a second touchdown was good. He did a

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 1>nice job to separate into Dak rolls to his lap

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to buy some time. Rico Gathers smartly moves with him,

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>buy some space, falls right there. So yeah, if Rico

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Gathers continues to make plays like that, he's gonna put

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 1>himself in some consideration for the talk of Okay, do

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>we keep three, do we keep four? Is he a third?

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Is he fourth? Maybe he pushes somebody out if they

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>keep four tight ends. I think I think he's making progress.

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>He's not like the tight ends that you have, but

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 1>he is a reliable catcher of the football when you

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 1>throw in his direction. You know what's interesting about Rico

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and his basketball background and of course the knock on

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>him before he became Mcowboys he hadn't played football since

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.199
<v Speaker 1>the eighth grade. But when you think about it, a

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of that red zone stuff and the stuff that

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about and writing about for today on Dallas

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dot Com, him staying active on the scrambled. There

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 1>are some basketball instincts in the red zone that comes

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to play on the football. To separate, how to clear,

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.200
<v Speaker 1>how to get your shot of all that stuff. Box

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>out and box out. He uses post up on the

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>goal line. He uses his body well to screen off

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the defense. And what we saw in the preseason games

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 1>last year is he can go get a jump ball.

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>He can go grab it. Basically, it's like grabbing a rebound,

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 1>is what he told me last year. I mean so yeah,

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean to some degree. Um. But the thing he

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>keeps telling when I talk to him, it's blocking. He's

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>got it. He's got a wock on that and become

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 1>more of a complete player that way. They keep him

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>on the backside. If you notice some of the stuff,

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:49.679
<v Speaker 1>and they get down in the red center when he

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.360
<v Speaker 1>has to block, they will run the ball away. When

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>they go twelve personnel and say he's they'll usually run

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the ball to Swain side or two or to jar

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>when when they're in a kind of a two in

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>a two tight situation where they have an inline guy

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in a wing and to say they go with all

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>three titans, that they will run the ball away just

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to try and give him a chance. But they but

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>one of them yesterday. You know, generally the ball goes

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>with one of his players. Yesterday, they got the ball

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:19.239
<v Speaker 1>on the outside with with Williams. Rico Gathers was at

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>the point of attack, got his guy turned and walled

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 1>off inside. That's a big body. If he could figure

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>out the blocking part of it, like he even said,

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, then he's going to put himself in consideration

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>for for a spot on this team. I think he's

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>got his hand up in the air now that they

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>he reminded him yesterday. Yeah. There, And now the difficulty

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:42.360
<v Speaker 1>part of it is you assume you're gonna keep three, yes,

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>can you keep four? Yeah? And if you keep three,

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>if he's one of the three, who you cutting see

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 1>this is Swain was good yesterday and Shultz And that's

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's the kind of the crux of the problem

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>that they have is that they do they say, Okay,

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 1>we need to have four tight ends because we can't

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>put Rico out or we can't put him on the street.

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:11.160
<v Speaker 1>We need the fourth guy. He might have to take

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 1>away a spot from somebody on the defense. Yeah, if

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>they're thinking about keeping an extra defensive end, you know,

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>if one of those defensive ends, if they're thinking, I mean,

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.199
<v Speaker 1>we kind of think they're gonna keep nine defensive linemen,

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and it might be a situation where they only keep

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:29.679
<v Speaker 1>three tackles, thinking that maybe that they could put Crawford

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>back inside or work somebody inside. So instead of maybe

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.640
<v Speaker 1>keeping nine defensive linemen, you only keep eight, you keep

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 1>a four tight end. It's there. There's now becomes the

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>chessboard of we're talking about Will McClay, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones,

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 1>of moving those tags around to make it work for

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.479
<v Speaker 1>your team. Maybe keep fewer offensive lineman. I don't know

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 1>how many of these offensive linemen is. Somebody's gonna push

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>him to keep nine. Yeah, I think they're only gonna

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>keep eight myself. Now, Joe Looney has been really good.

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they missed a beat with Joe Looney playing. Yes,

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I know he's not Travis Drake, but they were. I

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>mean when they ran the ball, Joe Looney, Martin, those

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>guys were on the edge. They were they were getting

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to guys and stuff. I think Joe Looney, you watch

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>him the one on one pass for one thing that's

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>been Yeah, I've been impressed with Joe Looney's not just

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a jokester. Yeah, but he's kind of got that image

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>right well kind of like yeah, but he could play

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he goes, but he goes against Antoine Woods, and you know,

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a battle in there, and he's holding up and

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Woods is kind of knocking him around, and he's knocking

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Woods around, so he hasn't It's you know, he looks

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>better with the hands, with the feet, the mobility. It's

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.919
<v Speaker 1>like he's taking football seriously and it's like he's I

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>think he's in better shape. Yeah, I think I agree

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>with you. And I think when he hurt his wrists

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and they let him black the heavy did a lot

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 1>of other stuff too to keep himself. You know, maybe

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>keep two quarterbacks. Well that that's a thought too. We've

0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>also kicked around seven wide receivers. Maybe just don't do that,

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you keep six. Um, it will depend on the quarterbacks.

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>It will depend what they do in preseason games. Yeah. Yeah,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>so there's a lot of juggling going on. You can

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>figure you could figure that part of it out. But yeah,

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 1>if he continues to play, you know, and maybe you

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>don't put him in situations where he's blocking. Now you

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>hate to show your hand. It's like, oh, he's going

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>out for a pass, been in two tight end situations.

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>If he could just do a little bit of yeah,

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>but it would be if he makes the team. I

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>think it would be tough for him to get on

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 1>the game day, don't you think week to week? Well,

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're you're keeping special teams because Jarwin's on

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>some of the coverage teams. All those guys are on

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>some special teams. Yeah, you know Jarwin. If you watch it,

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you could see blue shirts, white shirts. Yeah, there's really

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>two white shirts and two white shirts. The two tight

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>ends that are you know that used to be the

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>James Hannah role. You know, James Hannah was a blocker

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and then and then a core special teams guy. So

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Rico is he's making progress? I will say that he

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>is making progress. He's never gonna he's never gonna beat

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you down the field with quickness or look pretty doing it.

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>But if you throw the ball in his general direction,

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>he will find a way to catch right One other note,

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>en Rico, if he continues to play like he's playing

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>right now, he's not a guy that you can get

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to the practice squad. Yeah, someone something like a Sandy

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>a Chargers or somebody will. I don't know if that's

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a guarantee, it's okay. I just throw it out there.

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Always Oh. You know, one of the things we always

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>learned about these teams, they misevaluate their players. Sometimes you think, oh,

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no way this is gonna be a tough cut. No,

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>players generally cut themselves. And then he shows up in

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>preseason games like he did last year. Okay, okay, somebody

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>might want to say we can develop this exactly. Who

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>sit there and say, hey, that might be Antonio Gates

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>right there. This is where evaluation comes in. This is

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>where evaluation comes in. Right here. Who has a better

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>chance of making it to a practice squad? Mike White

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>or Rico Gathers. Rico gather I think, I think a

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>quarterback you say, well, do in the preseason games. But yeah,

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>if if what if Mike White's just okay, yeah, what

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>if you think Mike White has a better chance of

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>making the practice squad? Me too. As a scout, wouldn't

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you say, see, drafted quarterback, there's probably better. There's probably

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>better scouting reports on Mike White. Somebody's sitting there right

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>now looking at their team, going, you know, if Mike

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>White was on the waiver wire, somebody's probably sitting there going,

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, we liked Mike White. We had a third

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 1>round grade on him. Yeah, we didn't get to him. Wait,

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:38.719
<v Speaker 1>who's our backup quarters third quarterback? You know it's some

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>guy from you know, Central Arkansas that we kind of like.

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>But that that's see, that's where that's where. That's where

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>personnel guys struggle because if you put a young quarterback

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>out there, there's a better chance of losing a young

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>quarterback then there is losing a tight end. Okay, so

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>at this point, but I'm not I'm because it because

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a pre me in position. I'm waiting. But with you,

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>but from what we've seen, can I go in the

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>draft next year and get another mic White? Oh? Sure

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you probably could. It isn't it a little early? Are we? No?

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I would like to get him on

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the practice, saying this about Cooper Rush last, let's get

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>in the games to see what the kid does. Did

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>y'all see RG three The other night? I was watching

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>What was I watching? I was watching something? I was

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>watching Johnny man tonight? Yeah, No, Johnny Manziel was Friday night?

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Was he? I thought I watched the replay while I

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>was working out yesterday boarding. I heread he had a

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>good drive to start the game. I thought he looked great. Yeah, man,

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>he was accurate with his passes, a quick release moving around.

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Still yeah, wait, is this the same game or is

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>this a different game? We're talking about RG three RG three. Okay,

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the Johnny No no, no, no no, no three. Okay.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I was like, did I heard something different about? What's

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>interesting there is the Ravens are sitting there with Flacco,

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson and RG three, right, okay, And so they're

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>sitting there with three quarterbacks, with two of them with

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Heisman trophies. And if they let RG three go um

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>with this team, ponder that at all, there's a backup

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>rush as a third or a second without of course,

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>if he shows see that, if he shows anything, if

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>he continues to show like he did on that drive

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that I watched him the other day, he's gonna ask you.

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.719
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna ask you why then, And I just answered that,

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean he beat me to the Yeah. See, he's

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, Well, Nicky's argument is, well, if he's playing well,

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>why would they release him? Right, That's what he would say, right, yeah, absolutely,

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>But but if he's playing bad quarterback? But if RG

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>three is bad. Micky's argument, why would you want to

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.719
<v Speaker 1>pick him up? Because what the Ravens obviously got rid

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>of it? Right? Right exactly? Sounds like common sense to me. Okay,

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>let's use that same logic on Mike White. See Cowboys,

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys data backup quarterback. They draft at this guy, right,

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and if they're gonna let him go, why would anyone

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>pick him up? It just depends on how much patient

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>this guy is. Go ahead, Rob, I'm sorry, I just

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>think I mean, we're we're what a week, a week

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and a half, We're just doing a show, Rob, We're

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>doing a show. I know, I'm just not This is

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>my opinion. I'm not ready to cut No, no, no, no,

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I know eybody is. I think it's I think it's

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>one of those things we're trying to figure out. Should

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>we were trying to if we were trying to rob

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>a position to that, because I think they're gonna go

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>with three tight ends. I have said this, and I've

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>argued with Dave on this in the training table at

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>lunch and stuff like, you don't have to keep three quarterbacks.

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to do it. It's a luxury um.

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>But you didn't invest a draft pick in him. Sure,

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>let's let's see what he can do. But there are

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>other ways. If you want to get Rico Gathers on

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:48.719
<v Speaker 1>this roster, there's other ways to do it. You can

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>go light at receiver, you can go light at running back,

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you can go light on the offensive line, go anywhere

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you're going five receivers. Oh, well, I guess in light.

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's not go heavy at receiver. Let's if

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>you want to keep sick a set of seven you

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>take away, you have to have Ola Wally here. Yes, yeah,

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna be a special teams guy for

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>a Quinn. Okay, in addition to how many how many

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>defensive in do you want? Mm? As many as you

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>can get to the quarterback? What if all of a sudden,

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>have you had enough of I mean, is it is

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>it gonna be? Is it gonna be Lawrence Crawford? It

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 1>sounds like it's a are It sounds like they're gonna

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Gregory Gregory, and who's your fourth armstrong? Yeah? Fourth round pick? Okay,

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Tapper Sets saying, though it's a fourth round pick. Sets,

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>U'm saying, though, I mean you you could, you could

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 1>very well. I mean, I think they're gonna try and

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>keep five of those guys. I think so too. I

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.720
<v Speaker 1>think you could try and keep trust the Gregory situation.

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>But can you trust Tapper? Yeah? Yeah, See that's where

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you're running into if you think that it's okay, it's

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Rico gaust them, okay, Trusty, staying health, staying healthy. Rico

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>gathers over. This is fun. I love doing this. Rico

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:05.879
<v Speaker 1>gathers over over the defensive ends that I was talking about,

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Gregory and Tapper rank them? How would you how would

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you rank those three players as far as needy first,

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm Gregory, yeah, for sure. And I would probably keep

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Tapper over Rico at this point for sure. Yeah, I mean,

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and one of the one of the reasons, one of

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the reasons you have to keep the extra defensive end

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 1>is because you don't know for sure if Randy Gregory

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 1>is going to be eligible to play all year, and

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>if he played well, he's done. And you know he's

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a guy that you that's what happens. He's made his

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>own bed. If one strike away from you never know

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>when you gotta move Crawford inside anything, I'm asking it.

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that to me, I think that I would

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>go with the defensive ends myself. Yeah. But the thing

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>about it is, okay, how about safety you're gonna play?

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>You want all four safety? That's another spot. Could you

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>go lighter in the second area since you got Byron

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Jones that could play, could you go lighter there because

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>of versatili? First off, you go nine? First off, tell

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 1>me who the fourth safety is? Well, right now it's Hugh.

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>It's tough, right, yeah, but actually this Robinson kid has

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>played pretty well the last couple of days. But right

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>now it's tough, right, So weston h question, Huff, can

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you go? Can you go six corners and three safeties?

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>You've got corners who can play safety? Yeah, you're right right? Yeah?

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Is that the way we do it where they usually

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>keep ten dbs? You could? I mean you could just

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the old scene. And you guys understand

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the point you're gonna have to rob a position or

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>one guy. Well, you're gonna have to determine. And it

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you don't want to. It sounds like you

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.919
<v Speaker 1>don't want a quarterback. Yeah, quarterback is where I'm robbing?

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Are you robbing right now? Right now? Now, we'll see

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>guy and I'm a guy that thinks Mike White could

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>be a starter. Yeah, no, no, I'm just I'm with

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the Mike White train. I'm on the Mike. This is

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Monday before the first priest and out with you. We're

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>going based on what we've seen so far, and yesterday

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>wasn't good. So I'm with you there. I'm with you there,

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not based it on yesterday. But I'm just saying,

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I haven't seen you. Yeah, if you if

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 1>you look at it that way, that's why they played

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the preseason game. Tony Romo would have never been here. Yeah,

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>that's as awful as a rookie. He was awful as

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a second year. Remember that first preseason game at Arizona. Yeah,

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was the one in Oakland with Parcels,

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the one where he'd be dove in on fours. Well,

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that gave him the first preseason game in Arizona. He

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>came in late through some jump ball, picked off I

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>think Parcels. He said. Parcels met him at like midfield

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>to yell at him until you're not gonna you know.

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.319
<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't the worst part. The worst part was

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 1>watching him practice and he was so inaccurate Mickey's right.

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 1>I used to just stand out there and watch him play.

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>And here's a story for you. I remember being at

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>training camp and for three weeks or whatever it was,

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and it will go into home. And I went to

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a south Lake Carol High School practice in south Lake

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Carol better than the Cowboys. Carol's quarterbacks were. They had

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>four of them, Chase dani senior, Greg McElroy was the junior.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe Riley Dodge is a software And then

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>they had a freshman too who played d one Um.

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sitting there watching just throw fade routes the

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>corner of the end zone. I said, these high school

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks throw better than the Cowboy quarterbacks. Trust me. Yeah,

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what you're talking about. Okay, all right,

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I had Romo radio gone. All right, we continue on

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.960
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<v Speaker 1>Monday morning and Oxnard, California, we'll do a talking Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow morning as well, and then Wednesday it's a travel

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<v Speaker 1>day left and on Wednesday, Mickey, stop unless you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it by yourself. Nicky, you gotta you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get us on the air and do it. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then but you'll do one Friday, right. I think tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>up for training camp, because I won't be here the

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<v Speaker 1>last weeks. Right, No, we're not gonna do that. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night, our CBS eleven TV crew and they we

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<v Speaker 1>did a great job producing the scrimmage, and Bill Ellis,

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<v Speaker 1>it was here for the next two weeks for CBS eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>We all went to dinner last night and so Dandy

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<v Speaker 1>does the assignments for the CBS eleven sports here. You

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>mentioned you got to go cover Rangers. Now, yeah, both

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<v Speaker 1>photographers at the same time cornered Dandy and said, Dandy,

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<v Speaker 1>do we still have to go cover Rangers. Where'd you

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>go to dinner? Oh? What is the name of the place?

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<v Speaker 1>Silver and the collection? Over there, there's a bar. No famous,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave's Angry Dog, Lazy Dog yard house, yardhouses were ribby.

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<v Speaker 1>I was close Lazy dogs, angry lazy dog. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna move Rob into the captain's chair there. I don't know,

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>y'all are gonna have to fend for yourself. Yeah, I

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>know you will be fine. I just hope I still

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>have a spot when you get back to Briscoe for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Brandon and Illinois, you're up next year on

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<v Speaker 1>Talking Cowboys. Hello Brandon, Hello guys, how are you doing good? Oh?

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just here to make my case that Rico gathers

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe the best tight end on the on the tank. Yeah.

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>We we had two guys here last year that I

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>can't remember what well what they did, and we drafted

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>as guy um in the fourth round. I believe. Now,

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:04.399
<v Speaker 1>you guys say, um uh the jarring, he's a he's

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:08.320
<v Speaker 1>a good he runs. He looks like a white white

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>receiver in the tight ends. But yes, that's pretty much

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the girl. The best thing I've heard about him so far.

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>And I slam I really, don't you know, I don't really,

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I really haven't say anything he does. He's done good

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>so far. But Rico Gather seems like every time we

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>saw the guy in the ball, he catches it. Now,

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys say he's not the greatest route runner. He

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>looks lumbering. Yeah, and he hasn't played on the on

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.959
<v Speaker 1>a on a on a on the football fields things.

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>He was like thirteen. But the other guys have had

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>college experience, and sure nothing had song for it. So

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to see, you know, but where do

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys realistic? Let's see him I see makes the

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 1>forty six, that's my question. Now I lives, thank you,

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>He's got him on the roster. Randon's got him on

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the He talked about it for fifteen minutes. Yeah, it's okay.

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Look sometimes people jump out and I say this about

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Blake Jarwin QB. One loves what he brings to the table.

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 1>And he didn't mention him by name yesterday, but he

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 1>talked about the tight ends. He likes what they bring.

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>But he talked about ones being able to run down

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the field and separate and make plays. That's a number

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>eighty nine. That's Blake Jarwin's we've seen that in camp.

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't. I think swayin right now is probably your

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:35.359
<v Speaker 1>most complete tight end. He's been solid, but Jarwin gives

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you a dimension that they can use in the offense

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>this year. I think the good thing for Ricos we're

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>actually talking about him. You know, before he might have

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.879
<v Speaker 1>been a little bit more of an afterthought that they're

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>only gonna keep three. This is the way they're gonna

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>do it. It's they're gonna keep Schultz, They're gonna keep Sway,

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna keep at least he's put himself in the

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>conversation where for twelve minutes or so we had to

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>figure out would we rather have him or a safety?

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Would rather have him or a defensive end? Would we

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>rather have him or a quarterback? I think that itself

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>is if if things take care of themselves, Rico Gathers

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>is a guy that is in fact making some plays

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>when the ball has thrown his direction. Is that good

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>enough for these guys to carry a forward tight end?

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>We'll see that would be that that would be how

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>this thing plays out when we get to the fifty three.

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 1>But if he continues to make progress, he's going to

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>be a consideration. He will be considered now. He's also

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>running into a situation no where there's and maybe this

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>is going to help him. The fact that some coaches

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that probably had that excuse me not probably coaches that

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>had problems with him are no longer here. No, he's no.

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean those guys are now gone. He's got a

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 1>fresh set of coaches. You know, they got some they

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 1>got some fresh, new, fresh opinion. And sometimes if you're

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's having struggles, if you're having struggles and

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 1>with one coaching staff and then they change the coaching staff,

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and you get a clean sheet of paper to go

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:03.959
<v Speaker 1>out here and try and do a little bit better.

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Forty six he's in a nass about the fifty three

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 1>straight to well, he's trying to get him. Oh no,

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 1>he's yeah. If you're if you put him on the

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>fifty three, you're trying to get him to the forty six.

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 1>And he plays special teams? Is there anything they can

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:21.320
<v Speaker 1>do the game the way it is now? On the kickoff,

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:25.359
<v Speaker 1>the kickoff return, the punt. I mean, I don't know

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>where he other than maybe field goal team. You know,

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the rules change, the type of player you need yeah,

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:35.959
<v Speaker 1>I think watch, yeah, watching, watch, he's covering these kicks,

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:39.399
<v Speaker 1>master guys. Watch, he's blocking these guys. Can It's it's

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna be quick Man on quick Man game. Yeah. Yeah.

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 1>You need more safeties, you need more linebackers, you need cornerbacks.

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>There'll be a lot of cornerbacks out there playing because

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna match up blocker for blocker there and that's

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>where I you know, Rico Gathers might be a little

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>bit of a because he and he mentioned it. He

0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 1>is a lumbering player. We see that with our own eyes.

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Spiking of cornerbacks, hidobeg who is that is how he

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>wants his He would like his name pronounced, but he's

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>fine going however you want to go with it that

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I asked him specifically in there. It's so it's awkward

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 1>though to say it anyway, all right, How concerned are

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 1>you with his injury issue? Jason Garrett says, it's not

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>anything serious, But you know he did he was already

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>yesterday than I thought he would do. How important is

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>he to Oh, I think he's the guy. Yeah, he's

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.320
<v Speaker 1>got to be back there. You need him and Byron

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Jones and whoever's going to play that nickel. You need

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 1>them to be on the game and uh, yeah him.

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, you just have to trust what the head

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>coach is telling us in those those press conferences, because

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>trust me, we have people from the medical side that

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>listen to these shows. So you got to be careful

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>how you say things about that. But so as long

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 1>as he's as long as we're getting information him there

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.879
<v Speaker 1>that everything's okay, we have to trust that. I didn't

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 1>think he'd dressed yesterday. I didn't either, but because he

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't in team in the walkthrough, but he was out

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>there with a sleeve on his knee, and I think

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>he did some individual stuff he did. Yeah, and when

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 1>they did kind of the dressed walked through before the

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>practice actually started, he was out there. So this is

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff we couldn't see because we were watching the TV

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>monitor all the time. We were first at the top

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 1>of the stands that was right next to him sideline

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and Rob was right there fifty yard line. Ye. Hey,

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>we've got we've got Dave in Marshall, Texas next up

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>here on Talking Cowboys. Hello Dave, good morning, jentle, enjoy

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:47.320
<v Speaker 1>your chef. Thank you. Well, I'm curious about this vander

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>ash is wearing some kind of brice on neck. I

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:54.280
<v Speaker 1>know this yesterday at the scrimmage, and I was wondering

0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>whether they indicated some kind of ongoing problem. And the

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 1>other question I had was have we heard anything about

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:09.879
<v Speaker 1>David Irvin. I'll take the last one. No, I mean

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>we haven't. Right, he's got he's a four game suspension

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 1>to start the season. There's been no update, and we

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 1>don't we didn't expect any update. And in the Oxnard

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 1>portion of training camp, right, Erry Jones indicated h right

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>off the bat this training camp that he did not

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>expect him to be here in Oxnard at all, and

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 1>we shall see whether he shows up in Fresco went

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 1>for the open practices once they get back home. Yeah,

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and the vanders had had there was some concern coming out.

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:41.319
<v Speaker 1>It's part of his pads. That's just an extension of

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 1>his pad to keep his head. It's almost like in

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>NASCAR they have a device called the Hans Device that

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:48.319
<v Speaker 1>keeps your head and kind of keeps your also part

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of his past, Yeah, exactly, that's what That's what I'm saying.

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I was getting to that point coming out of the draft.

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 1>There were some questions about his neck, and some teams

0:49:56.440 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 1>were very cautious about him as a player. That Cowboys

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>doctor's staff they felt like though that was not going

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to be an issue. But that's just part of the

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>equipment that's to his pads. It's nothing else that he

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 1>played with that that brace on his pads while he

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>was in Boise as well. So that's why he's a

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:16.080
<v Speaker 1>middle linebacker exactly. Yep, all the middle linebacker where Bryan

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Cox yea makes you look more vicious. Yeah, Matt Millen

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 1>used to wear the old Actually, you know what I thought.

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought he had a good day yesterday. You know,

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you can't see because we see what we and what

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody sees as what happens in the passing game. In

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:35.839
<v Speaker 1>the running game, he was filling the really well. Yeah,

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and he was chasing the ball down really well in

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the running game. And that's that's a tough part of

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 1>making that transition there. Jalen Smith. The other day, we

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:48.319
<v Speaker 1>saw him stride for stride with Cole Beasley going down

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the field. How about that was old

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 1>school cover two. That was your Tampa two right there.

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>When you say, Mike linebacker, you've gotten from seven yards

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.760
<v Speaker 1>off the ball all the way between the two hash marks,

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and I was Cole Beasley was running at a good

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.760
<v Speaker 1>clip there, you know that was it wasn't like Cole Beasley.

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 1>People were going, well, was something wrong with Cole Beasley?

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Now Cole was running. It's just what you saw with

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 1>which Allen was. He had a good read. He knew

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 1>he had to be in the middle of the field.

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:15.959
<v Speaker 1>He saw what was happening from the slot. The ball

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.800
<v Speaker 1>went to the route went through the middle. He turned,

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:20.959
<v Speaker 1>he took off for a spot and he was able

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to catch up with Cole and then turn around to

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>find the ball to help to help knock it away.

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:30.720
<v Speaker 1>So good for him and playing some old school Tampa

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 1>two football of him having to take the middle of

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:38.439
<v Speaker 1>that zone defense. The defense as dominant as they were

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>in the two minute drill yesterday, they were bad in

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:42.879
<v Speaker 1>the red zone. Though. They were bad in the red zone.

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I see the reports how the defense

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.239
<v Speaker 1>is dominated and so forth. They were bad in the

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>red zone. But if you look at yesterday's practice and

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.840
<v Speaker 1>which you can on Dalla right here on Dallas Cowboys

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.440
<v Speaker 1>dot com, the offense looked really good in the redis

0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>absolutely it's one of those things where when the offense

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 1>looks good, what's wrong with the defense? Yeah, Gared Is

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 1>spoken of that if you turn on the tape at

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.399
<v Speaker 1>night in the film room with the team and it's

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 1>all one side, and you got a problem on one

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>side of your football team, and that's you kind of

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 1>want to see it fifty fifty And that's kind of

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:21.839
<v Speaker 1>what we saw yesterday. Um, I thought Zeke, we saw

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Zeke as a receiver leaking out for a touchdown there

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>in the red zone, that maybe that's something he can

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:28.000
<v Speaker 1>do for them that we haven't talked that much about.

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think, um there were some positive signs from

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the offense, But to your point, build the last previous

0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:37.879
<v Speaker 1>couple of practices in those situations. A lot of incompletions,

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I got. This is changing subjects totally. Okay. I was

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.799
<v Speaker 1>just thinking about this this morning. When do you think

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 1>will be the and this is the Ring of Honor

0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>right coming off the Hall of Fame ceremony and so forth,

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 1>when do you think will be we'll have the next

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Ring of Honor induction. We usually know about our last

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 1>four minutes shifts this year. We usually by now, Yeah,

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 1>it's usually around this time of when they will make

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 1>an announcement if there's gonna be something this season, if yeah,

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:09.919
<v Speaker 1>I had I had two guys in mind, I'm pulling for.

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm pulling for Harvey Martin. I really am. I don't

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 1>always I don't know necessary if Harvey Martin will get in,

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know what, at the same time, I

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:20.399
<v Speaker 1>pull for Harvey Martin, I pull for two tall Jones, Yes,

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And I've always thought that you put Harvey and too

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 1>tall in at the same time. I've just my experience

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.279
<v Speaker 1>of being a twenty year season ticket holder for the

0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys that Harvey Martin was such a great part of

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 1>my life, but also gil Brant was a big part

0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:36.440
<v Speaker 1>of my life too, And I think we're probably closer

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:39.319
<v Speaker 1>to gil Brandt getting in if tex s Ram is in.

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 1>And I respect what tex Stram has done for the

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the pillars of the National Football League.

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But you have to look at the run that gil

0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Brant had, and I would hope that gil Brant would

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.720
<v Speaker 1>even get Hall of Fame consideration to be they're putting

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>guys like pulling in Bethrono beethd Yeah, George Young, absolutely,

0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 1>gil Brandt deserves to go in without I think he's next. Yeah,

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't forget about the previous generations, right because people

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>might immediately say, well, Jason Witten just retired DeMarcus Ware.

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>That's the problem. That's the problem we run into is

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:14.399
<v Speaker 1>the fact that there was this team was really good

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 1>before nineteen eighty nine. If you if you go back

0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>from from nineteen sixty to nineteen eighty nine, they had

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:22.839
<v Speaker 1>some I get reminded every day when I walked through

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the Star of all the records that are on the

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:26.800
<v Speaker 1>wall of good football teams. I've seen a lot of

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>great Super Bowl winning teams and stuff like that. I

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>just and I think the Jones family, for the most part,

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>has done a nice job of not forgetting the past.

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>They appreciate what this history of business team. But I

0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:39.439
<v Speaker 1>wish we had a couple more guys from that era

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>that could be brought forward to the especially since Gills

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>getting up in eight. Yeah, i'd like to see that. Yeah. Yeah,

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:47.719
<v Speaker 1>And he's still sharp to talk to, you know, still

0:54:47.760 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 1>does his work, still does scouting stuff, and he has

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 1>his hands in a lot of different things. And but

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see him get in before uh,

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:57.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, he moves and just think, oh, he's done

0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 1>for the NFL after he su Cowboys. You know that

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:04.240
<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame, I'm not sure why they're dragging

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 1>their feet on this one. Yeah, surely they're not waiting

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 1>on him to get in the Ring of Honor first.

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Well that this should have no, it should be a requisite. Otherwise.

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>If that's the reason, then when he gets inducted, he

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 1>should have his own ceremony. Maybe next year. Maybe this

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 1>time next year, we will have just went right by everybody.

0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh what was it again? I'm sorry. I said maybe

0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 1>if he ever gets inducted, then he should have his

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:31.319
<v Speaker 1>own ceremony. Yeah, I don't focus on that singer. You

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 1>know what though in our last thirty seconds of the show,

0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.319
<v Speaker 1>the more that I think about that, let to do

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 1>his own thing. I don't care. That's what I say.

0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 1>He's always kind of been and as long as he's not.

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Everybody saying that the Hall of Fame might they're they're

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:50.320
<v Speaker 1>thinking about having a clause that that's a head of

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 1>ahead of time. You have to commit to being at

0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the ceremony before you can get voted in. I'm set.

0:55:56.960 --> 0:56:01.279
<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculously no one else will do that, right. But

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 1>even if they did it, you know, if he watched

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the Gold the Hall of Fame ceremony will go on

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:12.319
<v Speaker 1>if someone doesn't show up. If he watched it ceremony,

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>he'll sit there and go. I made a big I

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think he cares. I don't think you're right. I

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:20.880
<v Speaker 1>think I think you're right, But I don't think he cares.

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:22.759
<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't want to go, the party makes sense.

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Party will go on without. He's lucky to have that

0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 1>jacket on Saturday because he had a friend drive it

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.919
<v Speaker 1>to him. They were gonna mail it. All right. That's

0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Mickey's a quarter minute. As we wrap up Talking help

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Me the ten second, will ll you again tomorrow morning

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