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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, March thirty first, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where.

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Speaker 2: We are thinking about the future.

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Speaker 1: It's being your Man MG Marcus Grant, joined by Michael

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Speaker 1: Florio and Lakwan Jones. Happy end of It's wild. It

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Speaker 1: is the end of March, guys, Like this is kind

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Speaker 1: of kill quick, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, real, three weeks or so away from the draft,

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Speaker 3: Baseball is underway, Final four is set. Like, yeah, we

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Speaker 3: blinked and it was like the Super Bowl and everything

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Speaker 3: just blew.

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Speaker 2: By, just blue by.

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Speaker 1: So much going on in sports right now. Obviously we're

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Speaker 1: talking a lot of football. We're still talking draft related

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Speaker 1: things today, but it's you mentioned the Final Four in baseball,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, I only have so much bandwidth to devote

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Speaker 1: to like watching sports, and so college basketball has kind

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Speaker 1: of fallen off my radar. But the first week into

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Speaker 1: the turn, I was like, I'm locked in, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't really know these teams, but I just love

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Speaker 1: the spectacle of it, and I'm locked in.

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Speaker 4: It's great.

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Speaker 1: And then then baseball started and I literally forgot that

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Speaker 1: the Sweet Sixteen was happening.

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Speaker 4: I watched Saint Johnson, that was it. Oh baseball.

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Speaker 3: Look, I know sports don't care we're we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: We work for a league that has taken over all

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Speaker 3: holidays everything. But I do miss when like the sports

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Speaker 3: calendar made sense right, Like baseball waited until after March

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Speaker 3: Madness to start, and like it just felt right, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, leagues used to be polite about stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now everybody's trying to grind their feet on everybody else's

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Speaker 1: couch and it's just you know, I got.

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Speaker 4: To say, as the soccer fan here, as the wrestling

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Speaker 4: fan here, I feel like there's shumming on every single

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Speaker 4: Monday night all yeah, exactly. So like I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: cram all this stuff in. I was able to actually

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Speaker 4: you kind of do game, which was actually, you know,

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Speaker 4: it was wild, amazing to see the last shot and

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Speaker 4: great that that was just like, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I might be locked into college basketball.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. We're still trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out what else I can get. Yeah, that was wild.

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Speaker 1: I was actually out to dinner with some friends and

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Speaker 1: the whole restaurant went berserk when when they hit that shot.

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Speaker 4: When you condit the shot there.

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Speaker 3: Why the Knicks were playing the Thunder. I had no

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Speaker 3: idea that happened until like halftime of the Knicks game,

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Speaker 3: and then I was like, oh my god, but like, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: the Mets and the Knicks are now We're on the

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Speaker 3: Mets a daily. The Knicks are semi daily. Like it's

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Speaker 3: there's only so much Like o Q said that you

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Speaker 3: could fit up there, only.

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Speaker 1: So much time I have because I would still at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day like to have a family.

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Speaker 2: So h you know, I got a pick and choose.

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Speaker 4: What I watched.

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Speaker 1: Well, of course we will all be watching. Is the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft coming up in several weeks, we will we

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Speaker 1: are watching, have been watching some of the prospects there.

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Speaker 1: Florida's got his notepad there, o Q's got his notepad.

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Speaker 1: I can hold up a notepad. There's no notes on it,

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Speaker 1: but I can just hold.

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Speaker 3: On if you want to.

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Speaker 4: Just the two names you saw were Jordan Tyson and Sure.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, but we talked about kind of our wish list

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Speaker 1: of places we'd like to see some of these guys go.

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Speaker 1: Figure we should talk about where some of the draft

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Speaker 1: experts have these guys mocked too, and whether or not

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Speaker 1: we like to fit what it could mean so on

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Speaker 1: and so forth. So Charles Davis just put out his

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Speaker 1: mock draft three point zero the first round. There are

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Speaker 1: eight names of offensive skill position players on it, so

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Speaker 1: it's worth sort of just kicking it around, taking what

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Speaker 1: Charles thinks, seeing how we like the fits or don't

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Speaker 1: like the fits for those respective guys. But first a

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Speaker 1: little bit of news to get into, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to ask you this one, Lakwan.

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Speaker 2: For for two reasons.

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Speaker 1: Well, first, the headline Niners GM, John Lynch says he's

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Speaker 1: hopeful George child can return for week one.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm asking you this one because.

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Speaker 1: I know it annoys you to have to talk about

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: But also why are we kicking off the show at Whiners.

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Speaker 1: Right, Because also you are the tight end whisperer on

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Speaker 1: this show.

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Speaker 4: Like that is that is your deal?

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Speaker 1: So I'm asking you, with George Kittles coming off in

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Speaker 1: acchilles injury that he suffered late in the season, if

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Speaker 1: it is true that they that he can come back

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Speaker 1: for week one, are you willing to take the risk

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Speaker 1: of drafting him as a top five ted tight end

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Speaker 1: because presumably when you look at the all of the

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Speaker 1: tight ends out there, George Kittle's still probably gonna be

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Speaker 1: drafted as a top five tight end.

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Speaker 4: Are you willing to.

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Speaker 2: Take that risk.

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Speaker 4: That would be a mistake. I think you draft later

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Speaker 4: Jake Kungs the backup tight end, and I think that

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Speaker 4: if George Kittle's ready for Week one, maybe he'll be

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Speaker 4: out there on the field. But we've seen him come

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Speaker 4: back from injury before and make more of an impact

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Speaker 4: in the run game, and we know that Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to whisper that, they're trying to break down

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Speaker 4: his load as the season goes on. But at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day, George Kittle's one of the best

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Speaker 4: blocking tight ends out there, also route runner as well.

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Speaker 4: But I I don't know if I'm going to be

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Speaker 4: other pieces out there that are going outside that top five,

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Speaker 4: Rondez Gass and Sam Laporter, which I want to whisper

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Speaker 4: because man, that ADP is looking juicy right now in

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Speaker 4: Best Ball. But I'm just looking at other tight ends

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Speaker 4: that are healthy, that have better opportunities, and I honestly

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Speaker 4: think like George Kittle going off the board as a

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Speaker 4: top five. That's a huge mistake that you're probably gonna

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Speaker 4: have to have his handcuff Jake ready to go later

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Speaker 4: in draft.

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Speaker 1: I don't love the idea of drafting a tight end

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Speaker 1: handcuff like that feels like just that feels fascinating a

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Speaker 1: roster spot. Don't love that idea. I mean, Florida, we

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Speaker 1: talked about Achilles in terms of running backs, in terms

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. It just hampers your mobility, that's really what

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Speaker 1: it does. I'm kind of with Lakwan like I'm scared

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Speaker 1: to touch George Kittle at where he's probably going to go,

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Speaker 1: just because it only takes one or two people to pull.

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Speaker 1: I just don't love the idea of taking him right

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Speaker 1: after Achilles surgery, knowing that he might not be the

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Speaker 1: same level of route runner.

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Speaker 2: Right away that we've seen in his career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I top five is crazy to me. I don't

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Speaker 3: think I would even take him top ten, Like, I

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Speaker 3: want no part of this because he's gone. Not only yes,

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Speaker 3: is it Achilles. I think I think we're putting the

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Speaker 3: cart before the horse when we're saying stuff like it's

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Speaker 3: it's much more successful surgery than it used to be.

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Speaker 3: It's easier to come back than it used to be,

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Speaker 3: is it. I know it's maybe not the kiss of

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Speaker 3: death that it was like ten years ago, but there's

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Speaker 3: still very few Trek like success stories. I know Kevin

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Speaker 3: Durant is one, like Jason Tatum is back now in

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Speaker 3: the NBA, but he hasn't looked himself. And the thing is,

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Speaker 3: Kittle is going to be thirty three years old this year,

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Speaker 3: so it's not like he's a spring chicken. He has

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Speaker 3: a lot of a wear and tear and injury concern

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Speaker 3: like a huge question mark for him, and I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be surprised if he's on the pup list. I just

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Speaker 3: to me, I'd rather take a shot on the younger

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Speaker 3: tight ends. I'd rather wait, Like I'm just not going

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Speaker 3: to and I'm total Like we talk about the l's list,

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Speaker 3: I'm totally fine having know George Kittle this season.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of trending that direction. George Kittle back in

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Speaker 1: week one at this moment feels a lot like.

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Speaker 2: Brandon I even will be ready in week six.

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Speaker 4: He's running.

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Speaker 1: He's running ye yeah, a lot like hey man, did

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Speaker 1: brand you week six?

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Speaker 4: Like mark it down? That's that's kind of how it feels.

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Speaker 3: He tore his achilles in January. I had to double

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Speaker 3: check this January like mid January, Like we're two months

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Speaker 3: removed from him tearing it. That means that the start

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Speaker 3: of the season he is going to be eight months

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Speaker 3: removed from a torn achilles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I want you absolutely no part of it that.

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Speaker 1: That feels really really optimistic right then, So I probably

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Speaker 1: the other part of this.

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Speaker 2: Is you mentioned Sam Laporta.

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Speaker 1: If you want to get a good ADP on him,

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Speaker 1: now's the time to do it. Because what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: is we're gonna wake up one day in late May

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Speaker 1: and suddenly a whole bunch of people a gonna realize,

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Speaker 1: hey man, Sam Laporta's ADP is ridiculously low, and then

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be the main character for two or three days,

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Speaker 1: and then that's gonna be it.

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Speaker 2: Like the discount's going to be over.

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Speaker 4: I just tweeted yesterday. I was like, Fantasy Streets, please

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Speaker 4: do not be too loud about but no, I'm saying

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Speaker 4: it now. Let's not do it. Let's not do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at underdog adp right now, right McBride Bowers

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Speaker 3: feel like a lock, then, I mean they are a lock.

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Speaker 4: Is the top two.

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Speaker 3: Then you got Loveland and Warren, who I do think

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Speaker 3: are going to consistently go three four. I'm pushing Sam

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Speaker 3: Laporte up to five at that like, that's that's reflectable.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's a good ranking.

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Speaker 1: But lakwan you saying, hey, everybody, don't be loud about

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Speaker 1: Sam Laporte.

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Speaker 4: For look, this is for people who listen to me

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Speaker 4: and win championships. When I talk about the tight end.

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Speaker 4: That's the car with.

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Speaker 1: Putting a cookie on a table and telling your kid

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Speaker 1: don't touch the cookie.

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Speaker 4: That cookie is going touch the cookie. That the moment

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Speaker 4: you your back crumbs lesson, Like, what are you doing? Man?

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Speaker 4: All right, Mason will leave. That's the type of kidd

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Speaker 4: he is. He'll leave half the cookie.

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Speaker 1: So then goes about halfway to where it's going to

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Speaker 1: be great. There you go go from like ten to

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Speaker 1: seven or something awesome. Patrick mahomes is posted video himself

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Speaker 1: throwing three months after surgery. I will say that because

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Speaker 1: I am not on X as much, I didn't see it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You guys can tell me where the fantasy streets going nuts?

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Speaker 1: Where are a bunch of people like with like I

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Speaker 1: big googly I emojis, where they're arrows pointing up? What

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Speaker 1: did all that happened with Mahomes in this video?

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Speaker 3: I've avoided it.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's good slightly. It's the thing is is because

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Speaker 4: we've well me personally, I have taken L's on the

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Speaker 4: freak athlete here and his money is different in terms

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Speaker 4: of recovery. This is cool to see, but this does

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Speaker 4: not move the needle for me whatsoever in fantasy, Like

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Speaker 4: I still have guys like Dak Prescott bo Nix, and

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Speaker 4: I would rather take off the board before a Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: And I know this has been a pod that we've

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Speaker 4: As much as we've seen him last year, this does

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Speaker 1: So then Florida's he top eight, top ten quarterback for

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Speaker 3: Doing my best Leonardo DiCaprio impression. Absolutely not. And I

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Speaker 3: But I think the Chiefs are going. The Chiefs don't

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Speaker 3: But I will not rule out the packages for him though,

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Speaker 1: Harris, at a free agent visit with the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: about you saying that Naji Harris runs like he's wearing jeans.

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Speaker 4: They're all all street clothes athletes. Because you got Naji.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 3: This has nothing to do with what we're talking about,

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Speaker 4: I think McVeigh was doing interviews. Everybody was worried about

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Speaker 3: He was getting his haircut.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm like, I'm looking up Todd Monkin's haircut of brothers.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna get into Charles Davis's mock Draft

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Speaker 1: three point zero, talk about some of the guys he

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Speaker 1: So Charles Davis has done his third version of his

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Speaker 4: Of course, you can find all of these.

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Speaker 1: At NFL dot coms Go to NFL dot com.

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Speaker 2: Slash mock draft.

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Speaker 1: Simple enough you can find all the different ones that

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Speaker 1: have been done by our various analysts. You got Mike

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Speaker 1: Van Lands, Zerline, Charles Davis, Bucky Brooks, Chad Reuter, Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 2: There's there's no shortage of mock drafts up on the site.

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Speaker 4: You can go check them out.

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Speaker 1: I picked Charles Davis's because it was the most recent,

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Speaker 2: Number One Fernando Mendoza going to the Raiders shocking.

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Speaker 4: Uh again, if we had I'm waiting for somebody to

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Speaker 2: Like, hey, why don't we why don't we explore that?

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Speaker 2: But no, we're not going to have fun.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to just talk about Fana Mendoza going

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Speaker 4: I Flor, I think you and I have talked about it.

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Speaker 1: Where is your excitement level for Mendoza, Like your expectations

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Speaker 1: I mean ideally know, but it can always be worse.

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Speaker 4: I hope not. Let's say that I hope.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's enough for windows to talk like. It's

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Speaker 4: Maybe on the bench.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That's maybe the highest I've seen him.

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Speaker 3: Charles Davis or or a lot of people who you

442
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Speaker 3: know are draft analysts for a living. I just watched

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Speaker 3: them play and I kind of write my thoughts down

444
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 3: and then I let the chips fall where they may.

445
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Speaker 3: When I was watching Ty Simpson, though, it was like

446
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Speaker 3: he has a strong arm. That's the first thing that

447
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 3: like he could just like flick his wrists in the ball,

448
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 3: let's go fifty yards now field. Like very strong arm.

449
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 3: He could put it on a rope. I liked his

450
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: pocket presence presence a lot, Like he did a good

451
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Speaker 3: job in Alabama when he would like he would sense

452
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: the pressure, and like he he doesn't like panic. He

453
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Speaker 3: just keeps his eyes downfield. He moves around the pocket.

454
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Speaker 3: He could use his legs a bit. He's not like

455
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Speaker 3: a running quarterback by any means, but like he could

456
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Speaker 3: use his legs to scramble and create more time. He

457
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Speaker 3: his mistakes weren't like backbreaking mistakes, like when he misses

458
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Speaker 3: a target, it's usually overthrown.

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Speaker 4: So I liked him.

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Speaker 3: The name I wrote down was mac Jones, though, who

461
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Speaker 3: was a first round pick a few years ago. But

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Speaker 3: I think I thought he projected like, you know, like

463
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Speaker 3: people would be like, all right, we shouldn't used the

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Speaker 3: first on a first on him, especially a top three pick.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, if the Cardinals do to throw

466
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Speaker 3: all of that out the window, if they take him third.

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Speaker 4: Overall, like he will start.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he won't start Week one, but I would say

469
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Speaker 3: by October he would be their starting quarterback. We do

470
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Speaker 3: this every year when a team drafts a young quarterback.

471
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Speaker 3: We say, well, they're not gonna play, They're gonna sit

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Speaker 3: on the bench, and then by a month into the

473
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Speaker 3: season that Jackson Dart we were having this exact conversation

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Speaker 3: with a year ago, like the young quarterback is going

475
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Speaker 3: to play, trust me. So I think if you if

476
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Speaker 3: you have Trey McBride, or or if you want Tree McBride,

477
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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison, you probably don't want this. You want a

478
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Speaker 3: season of Jacoby Wes said, I think that is the

479
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Speaker 3: best fantasy output. But Simpson is it seems like there's

480
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Speaker 3: more and more smoke coming and probably gonna be a

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Speaker 3: first round pick.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, the first round pick will play. Thing is real.

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Speaker 1: You only have so many years that you have to

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Speaker 1: evaluate him. And I think, especially if it is Arizona, right,

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Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, it's the Cardinals, Jacoby Brissett

486
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: is not a good enough quarterback where you're like, hey, Ty,

487
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Speaker 1: we just want you to sit and watch for a year.

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Speaker 1: This isn't I know. Jordan Love was not an early

489
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Speaker 1: first round pick. He was a late first round guy.

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Speaker 1: But it's not Jordan Love going to a team with

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame level quarterback still playing at a

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Speaker 1: reasonably high level where it's like, hey, Jordan, you're gonna

493
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Speaker 1: have to wait your turn, and then once we've moved

494
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Speaker 1: on from Aaron Rodgers and it's gonna be your issue,

495
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Speaker 1: nobody's like, hey, you gotta wait behind Jacoby Pressett.

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Speaker 4: Man like nobody's doing that. But I'll take this in

497
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Speaker 4: a different direction though, waists because I think if they

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Speaker 4: do take him me third, that there's no reason to

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Speaker 4: rush him in because when we look at the Jackson

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Speaker 4: Dart situation, Brian Daboles in the hot seat. I want

501
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Speaker 4: to go take you back in time, back to my

502
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Speaker 4: Saint Louis Rams when Jeff Fisher was on the hot seat,

503
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Speaker 4: when he finally put Jared golfin in probably one of

504
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Speaker 4: the worst games and starting in the rain against the

505
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: Dolphins and then exit left. Jeffisher is gone. But again

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Speaker 4: I look at this situation a little bit different. Why

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Speaker 4: not spend a year with Jakobe Brissett and Gardner Minshew

508
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: there also that they signed. Why not have Mike Lafleur

509
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Speaker 4: build this molding team. If again he thinks that Tyd

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Speaker 4: Simpson could eventually be his guide, there's no rush because

511
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Speaker 4: he just got there. It's a first year head coach,

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Speaker 4: and I think the Cardinals are going to give guys

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Speaker 4: like him some years because look how long it took

514
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Speaker 4: Gannon to get out. So I think if they take

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Speaker 4: him at three, they got some years that they can

516
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Speaker 4: really mold him and get him ready to be polished.

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Speaker 3: When is the last time, outside of Jordan Love, that

518
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Speaker 3: a first round quarterback didn't play like last year? They

519
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 3: both played pretty much immediately with wards started Week one,

520
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: Dark came in pretty quickly. The year prior with hot seats,

521
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Speaker 3: Caleb Jaden May Pennix McCarthy didn't play because he was hurt.

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Speaker 4: Nicks hot seat.

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Speaker 3: You go the year prior, it's Bryce Stroud, Anthony Richardson,

524
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Speaker 3: the year prior, it's Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson.

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Speaker 4: They all play and all failed.

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Speaker 1: It is because of la floor is there right now?

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Speaker 1: Why not start with the guy. If you're taking a

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Speaker 1: quarterback at three, this is the guy you think can

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Speaker 1: be your future.

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Speaker 4: Why not let him start? Because especially because.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Cardinals in that division, nobody's expecting anything

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Speaker 1: of you.

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Speaker 4: Nobody expect like, but do we think Ty Simpson has

534
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Speaker 4: the IQ of Jacoby Brissett. He's employed for a reason

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Speaker 4: for all these teams, and also we got to put

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Speaker 4: some respect on him. What two hundred and eighty yards

537
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 4: per game? Who led the league him, Jacoby Burssett.

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Speaker 3: I've been talking up Perssett for a while now, like

539
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: I rock with Perssett, like that is one of my guys.

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Speaker 3: But to like to what Marcus said, he's been on

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Speaker 3: all of those teams for a reason, right like like

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Speaker 3: there he is not a.

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Speaker 4: Franchise, and he's been looked at as the serviceable bridge court.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you why he's not.

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Speaker 1: This guy, ty Simpson is the thing on the is

546
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Speaker 1: ideally the thing on the other side of the bridge,

547
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Speaker 1: Like you're not going to keep building the bridge when

548
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: you're already the other side of the river.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen the NFL has changed, right Like they

550
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: want to know what these kids are right away. They

551
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: want them to get the development and this seasoning because

552
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: you need to make a decision in a couple of years,

553
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: like are we locking this guy up? So the more

554
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: you get to see them play and develop them. Like

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00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 3: it's why Tyler Shuck came in pretty quick last year.

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00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: Like the NFL has just become a young quarterback league.

557
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: It might be.

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00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck is like thirty three years, you.

559
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: Know, like he was a rookie and he came in.

560
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Speaker 4: He has a lot of experience job. I don't know

561
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Speaker 4: off top I don't know off top of right now

562
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 4: because I don't have what's in front of me to

563
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: see his experience of as a starter. But I'm pretty

564
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 4: sure he's on the cuss of not having that many

565
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 4: starts under his boat.

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Speaker 1: Ty Simpson does not have he He was only his

567
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: full time starter in his final year.

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00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: That was it.

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Speaker 4: So we've seen this story play out multiple times, and

570
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 4: you're telling me a first year head coach is going

571
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: to rush it in. When you have a Jacoby Brissett

572
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: to maintain what this offense needs to build, they're not

573
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: expected to win a year.

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Speaker 1: One thing is that, like, if you play Jacoby Brissett

575
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Speaker 1: for a year, you win three, four, maybe five games,

576
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Speaker 1: and you've learned nothing about it, and you've learned nothing

577
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: about the guy. You've burned a year of his you know,

578
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: first four years, you've burned that year and you haven't

579
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: learned anything at all.

580
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: Put him in week fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, whatever. Put

581
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Speaker 4: him in to get them for men going in the

582
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: next year.

583
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Speaker 1: Like Jenever said, is the fantasy answer because Jacoby Brissett

584
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: elevates Michael Wilson, Jacoby Brissett elevates Trey McBride.

585
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Speaker 4: That's what we want.

586
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: Simpson is the real football We're trying to build a

587
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: franchise answer.

588
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: I don't think he's maybe not, but again, if.

589
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: You're taking him at three, you you believe that he's

590
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: ready or close close enough to being ready that you're

591
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: giving him reps.

592
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: I go back to I remember, like I'm aging myself here,

593
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: but I remember having about Mitchell Trubisky when I forgot

594
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: who the quarterback they signed. They legitimately signed someone to

595
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: be Nick Foles. Yeah, and Trubisky was starting by October. Like,

596
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: it's just the way the NFL operates. Well, Nick Foles

597
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: is pretty bad and didn't like as much as I like,

598
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: he's a good player, like he did all of his

599
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: work last year when they were down numerous scores, Like,

600
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: you don't need someone out there putting up numbers and

601
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: losing efforts. I think if you're the Cardinals, you view

602
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: it as this, These snaps are better. Like Jacoby is

603
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: going to start Week one. I wouldn't be surprised if

604
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: he starts all of September, but at some point pretty soon,

605
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals would be like, we need to

606
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Speaker 3: see what we have in this kid.

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Speaker 1: I said, that was more Tys Simpson talk than I

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Speaker 1: thought we were going to have here. It's like a

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Speaker 1: break come back and dive into some more names in

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Speaker 1: Charles Davis's mock Draft. Next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast,

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Speaker 1: going through the latest mock draft from Charles Davis. You

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Speaker 1: can find it at NFL dot com slash mock Drafts

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Speaker 1: and up next at number five, Je're my.

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Speaker 4: Love going to the Giants to Florida.

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Speaker 1: You are maybe the biggest Camp Scataboo guy here. This

616
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: seems no bueno for both Love and Scataboo. If they're

617
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: both in the same backfield.

618
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: There's more and more smoke for this, And I hate

619
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Speaker 3: it because I like Camp Scataboo was an art not like,

620
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: you know, oh he was pretty good, Like he was

621
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: a top five fantasy running back until he got hurt.

622
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Speaker 1: You can do that when you have no regard for

623
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: your own body.

624
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: It was from Pokemon. It was like, this is Camp

625
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: Scataboo when he sees a defender and it just said,

626
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: do you want to headbut this critical?

627
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: Damn yeah.

628
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: Like Jeremiah Love would ruin any value for scataboy because

629
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: he is so good at everything right, Like, there's nothing

630
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: I could sit here and be like, oh, well, Cam

631
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: might be better like Mick. Actually Cam would be the

632
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: better shortyard guy. That's the only concern I have with

633
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love is if he is going to be, you know,

634
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: kind of how we saw with like Bijeon where the

635
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: Falcons would get near the goal line and be like,

636
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: we're bringing in the bigger back with Tyler Ralsehear. That

637
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: is my only concern with Jeremiah Love. I think he

638
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: can do everything else. He's super explosive, fantastic with the

639
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: ball in his hands, great receiver, all of that. He

640
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: is going to be a mid to early second round

641
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: pick in fantasy at the latest, I think. But I

642
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: would hate this because I love some cam Scataboo.

643
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean just it's one of those things where they're

644
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: sharing a backfield and it's just going to be really frustrating,

645
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, lesser level. And this is me going back

646
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: to my Javonte Williams love again.

647
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: But it was knowing how.

648
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: Much I enjoyed watching him in North Carolina and having

649
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: him get drafted to Denver when they have Melvin Gordon

650
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: there already, and just being disappointed, and you know, Adam

651
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Rank tried to talk me out of it, and I

652
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: kind of perked up a little bit, but it just

653
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: never was what I wanted it to be. This this

654
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: is sort of how I'm feeling in advance if Jeremiah

655
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: Love does go to the Giants that they've got a

656
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: guy that they like who can take opportunity, and you

657
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: got another guy who can be super explosive. And this

658
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: is not exactly like peanut butter and chocolate mixing. It

659
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: is for football again, for real football. For the Giants,

660
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: that'd be great for us. It's a downgrade on both

661
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: those guys because they're going to be battling for touches

662
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: and we got to figure out what roles are going

663
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: to slot into and it's not going to be fun

664
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: on the real.

665
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: Life football standpoint of it. Though. Jeremiah Love already quoted

666
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: in stated like, bro, I watch film, I go home,

667
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: I watch anime and play video games. Scam Scatta goes

668
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 4: out here licking windows at the Super Bowl media week,

669
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: Like if you go to my Instagram you can see it.

670
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: But we honestly see that horrball want folks that love

671
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 4: the game of football. And I think that Jeremiah Love

672
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: going to New York that would be the best missing

673
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: piece that they have because their old line was actually

674
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: serviceable last year.

675
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: I think Camskataboy loves football is just that it is

676
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: that he does.

677
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: It is off time.

678
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: He's not watching animal like you know, just replaced with

679
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: looking windows. Like everybody needs something to do in their downtime.

680
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: Cam scatabooy just happens to do something different than Jeremiah

681
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: love Way.

682
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: So ready to hate someone the moment of his eyes open.

683
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and your free time you watch wrestling.

684
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I played. I played Minecraft Like it's just different,

685
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not. I'm not looking windows though.

686
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't advise it, like kids don't try

687
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: this at home.

688
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: But you know whatever, man, you gotta feel the feel

689
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: the dead.

690
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: Hours some kind of way.

691
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's licking windows, You're making a bunch of glizzies.

692
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: It's all the same.

693
00:33:53,320 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: It's all. Come on, bro, stop, I understand.

694
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: I really don't understand your irrational dislike of hot dogs.

695
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: They are delicious, such a love.

696
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: For them that he doesn't like them.

697
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 4: I don't stop. Stop. I am not the glazzy lord

698
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: to be.

699
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 2: So offended when we went out the fact that you enjoyed.

700
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 4: Because you enjoyed, maybe if.

701
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: You stopped calling them glizzies and call them hot dogs,

702
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: you'd be less offended by that.

703
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: Somehow, it's the.

704
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: Word.

705
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: The word itself seems inappropriate.

706
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: I know, it's not.

707
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: It's just it's one of those words. It's not inappropriate

708
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: but sounds inappropriate.

709
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 4: Monsters just call them.

710
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: Hot dogs like regular humans do, and you're fine.

711
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: His favorite athlete is Joey Chestnut.

712
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: Shout out, Shout out to Vale, California.

713
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: At number six, Charles has the Browns taking Carnal tape.

714
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: Look what are we just riding off Carnell tape? Because

715
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: he's going to the Browns? Does that just mean it's over?

716
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: Short answer, yes, because it's over. It was a it

717
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: was a nice ride. We had a great you know,

718
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: pre draft. But to be honest, should Door change his number?

719
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: Number two? I think Todd Munkin And that's all we have.

720
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 4: That's all we have in Cleveland to look at him like, okay,

721
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 4: maybe changes on the way, you know, Like I want

722
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 4: to be as loyal as the Browns fans are to

723
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 4: the Browns because it's just like you, they could paint

724
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: any type of picture that it's it's Super Bowl, you

725
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like just seeing that them reacting

726
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 4: to these mock drafts. They want Carneal Tate, they want

727
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: Jordan Tite, they want Jeremiah Love. I mean, guys like

728
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 4: hold to quin. Shawn Jenkins is there, but I think

729
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: when we look at Carneal Tate going to the Browns,

730
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be as you know, our expectations are

731
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: going to be as high as that we thought if

732
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: he went anywhere else.

733
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a thing that I know is fully

734
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: and totally unfair of me to ask Browns fans to do, right,

735
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: I get it, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Y'all

736
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: should stop going to games. No, no, you should really stop

737
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: going to games.

738
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: Do what Marcus knows? What's anime?

739
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, my point being that, And I understand the

740
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: NFL has huge revenue sharing and so much of its

741
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: revenue and so much of the team revenue comes from

742
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: TV deals and merchandise and what have you. But at

743
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: some point, bad teams stayed bad for a reason. And

744
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: usually it's a thing that starts at the top. It

745
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: starts with ownership, It starts with front offices. It starts

746
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: with just a continual series of bad decisions being made

747
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: over and over again. But there's no motivation for those

748
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: ownership groups or those front officers to get better when

749
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: eight nine times a year they look out and the

750
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: place is packed, and it sort of meant one thing.

751
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: Back in the days, I'm old enough to remember NFL

752
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: blackout rules where if you hadn't sold like seventy five

753
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: percent of your tickets by Thursday, then the wasn't going

754
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: to be on TV in the local markets.

755
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 4: So it made it made sense, Hey, we.

756
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: Got to show up so the games can be on TV,

757
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: so we can get that recognition.

758
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 4: That doesn't really exist anymore. And so I get it.

759
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: I understand how much the Browns mean to the community.

760
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 1: I know how much they mean to the fan base.

761
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: I understand. That's why I preference by saying. I know

762
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: it's an unfair thing to ask, but if y'all want

763
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: to stop adding names to that ridiculous quarterback jersey that

764
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: now runs like a CVS receipt like at some point,

765
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: at some point, the fan base has to leverage what

766
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: power it has, and really the only power they have

767
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: is to just not show up.

768
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: Like I want better for them. I don't. I'm indifferent

769
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 4: to the Browns generally.

770
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've made my share of Cleveland Browns Factory

771
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: of Sadness.

772
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: Jokes or what have you.

773
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: But I do want to want better for this fan

774
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: base that has been awful. Because I'm old enough to

775
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: remember back in the eighties and nineties when the Browns

776
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: were good, when they were competitive and they were going

777
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: through deep playoff runs.

778
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 4: That hasn't happened.

779
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: You could be thirty five years old and you don't

780
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: know success for the Cleveland Browns. The only way I

781
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: think it gets better is at some point they have

782
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: to flex their muscles of fan base and say, f you,

783
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: We're not showing up until you get your stuff together.

784
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: I almost cursed multiple times in there.

785
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: Together. And like again, I I I understand.

786
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: Like if if all Browns fans are right now giving

787
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: the middle finger to their phones or computers listening to

788
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: this and saying screw you, I totally understand.

789
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 4: But I don't.

790
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't know any other way for the Browns to

791
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: get better until their fans basically rise up in a

792
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: group and tell ownership we're sick of this. We're not

793
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: showing up again until you figure it out.

794
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: That's all great, but the latest is that they are

795
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: hopeful that Deshaun Watson could become the Deshaun Watson that

796
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: they thought he was when they signed right they're giving

797
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 3: him a fresh start they're saying he has a great

798
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: chance to be their starter and everything, like.

799
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: I want to be the second basement for the Dodgers.

800
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of things out there that

801
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: we want. It's good to want things.

802
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: This isn't like Deshaun Watson saying like I think on

803
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: the like, this is the owner of the team saying

804
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: he is going to have a strong chance to be

805
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: a Week one starter. Like Brown fans and Miles Garrett, y'all,

806
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: y'all should have got out when you had the chance.

807
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 2: Had the chance.

808
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: Man Miles is worse because like he actually had the chance.

809
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: Like if I'm from Cleveland, I live in Cleveland, I

810
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: work in Cleveland. I'm not just picking up my move.

811
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: Like Min Garrett, you could have left you, you could

812
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: have left for real. Now you're hanging out sidelines at

813
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: like Clippers games, Like you could have just come anywhere.

814
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: You could have lived in la if you wanted to

815
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: like do something else anyway, So now sorry about you,

816
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: Love Cartnell, Tay, we have, I guess decided that it's

817
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: gonna be uphill sledding for you if you get drafted

818
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: by the Browns.

819
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 4: Go ahead and clock out, chief, Yeah, go ahead tough scene.

820
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: I think of breaking back.

821
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: We have four more names that we're gonna get through

822
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: in Charles Davis's Mick Draft three point Oh. That's next

823
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football podcast, going.

824
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: Through Charles Davis's Mick Draft three point I.

825
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: Which you can find at NFL dot com slash mock Draft,

826
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: and at the number eight spot, Charles Davis has these

827
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: Saints taking Jordan Tyson.

828
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: LQ you love Jordan Tyson, Yeah, and.

829
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: Chris o'lave or like BFFs now apparently.

830
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: Get you excited to see Jordan Tyson in New Orleans.

831
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: It does, It does adds another weapon to that offense.

832
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: I think honestly, with Juwan Johnson, you know, being the

833
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: second fiddle to Chris o'lave, this adds another dynamic to

834
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: this offense. I think they can attack downfield even more

835
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 4: because we saw Chris Olive leave all wide receivers in

836
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 4: targets at twenty plus yards, and I think that deep

837
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: ball is going to get a little bit more accurate

838
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: with Tyler Shuck. If you have some money like Jordan

839
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: Tyson that you're able to just dump off intermediated field,

840
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: he can hit on all three phases man just based

841
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 4: on his twitchy route running. Like I know that Florio

842
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: gave him the compo Odell Beckham, but I see a

843
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: lot of that justin Jefferson DNA in him as well,

844
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: where he makes those type of big catches downfield. So

845
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: I think this would be a huge move for the

846
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 4: Saints if they go out there and get Jordan Tyson

847
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: and then look, they're in contract extension talks where Chris o'lave.

848
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: So I think Olave still remains as that wide receiver

849
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 4: won there and I still think that I got him

850
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: right where I got him, you know, in my wide

851
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 4: receiver rankings as a top six wide receiver this year.

852
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: I have this feeling Florio I'm gonna be sneaky heavy

853
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: on the Saints and at least the right I said

854
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: multiple times that I thought Travis e Chen was one

855
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: of the best moves of free agency because I think

856
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: I think we can say audios to Alvin Kamara.

857
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 4: We saw Chris Olai, they get to glow up.

858
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: We saw Tyler Shuck step up and really make a

859
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: strong chase to be their guy at quarterback. I don't know,

860
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how long this goes, but he made

861
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: a case to be the starter for next year without

862
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: a doubt. Lakwan mentioned Juwan Johnson, who made many many

863
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: appearances in the sleeper column last last year.

864
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 4: We might really and if they draft a wide receiver

865
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: in the top ten, we really might be heavy on

866
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,479
Speaker 4: the Saints this year.

867
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially because they could be one of those teams

868
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: who's traveling a lot and having to throw the ball,

869
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 3: which is what they were down the stretch last year,

870
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: which is what really helped a lot. Look, I'm in

871
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 3: on a lobby where his ADP is in the third round,

872
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: top six. I'm completely out on that, just because I

873
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: think I don't want to draft him at where I

874
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: think his ceiling is, but I don't expect him to

875
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: go there. I won't have him in any drafts with LQ,

876
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: but in my other leagues in the third round.

877
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: I'll be all about it. I'm not really doing.

878
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: The Juwan john because I've I've done it before. There's

879
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: a couple of good weeks. It's all floor. But I'm

880
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: in on a chan I'm in on. If Jordan Tyson

881
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: was to go there, I'm in on him. Tyson is

882
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: my wide receiver one in this class. I think it's

883
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: close between him and Tate, and they do a lot

884
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: of similar stuff. They both are like super reliable, big

885
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: catch radius kind of guys. I just think Tyson has

886
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: that ability to make a special play that I didn't

887
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: see as much when I was watching Tate. Tyson did

888
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: a lot of really special things. And I know asu

889
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,959
Speaker 3: receivers haven't always worked out, but he is my one

890
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: in this class, and I would I would really like

891
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 3: him on the Saints because it would allow them versatility,

892
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: right Like he could be the X. He could also

893
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: play in inside though at times, and that would allow Olave,

894
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 3: who I think is at his best from the slot,

895
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: to play there a lot more. But you would just

896
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: be able to move all the pieces around, which I

897
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 3: think is always a good thing.

898
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: Is there a bona fide wide receiver one in this class?

899
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't feel like there's a guy. I

900
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: know Marvin Harrison hasn't hanned out so far the way

901
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: that we thought he would, but it doesn't seem like

902
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: there's a guy like that. The guy is just like, oh,

903
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: I know this is this is the number one wide.

904
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: Receiver, right.

905
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: There's no there's no Malik Neighbors. There's no, justin Jefferson,

906
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: it just doesn't. It feels like there's a lot of

907
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: guys who can be really, really good as a team's

908
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: number two, But it just I don't know if we've

909
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: found that guy that's just like, yeah, this, I.

910
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: Say, this is the one. I think for real life purposes,

911
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: I think Carnel Tey is undebatably the wide receiver one.

912
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: And that goes beyond of him being a threat in

913
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: all three levels because out of this wide receiver class,

914
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 4: he's elite at run blocking, and I think that's what

915
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: more teams are looking for. Is he all around type

916
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: of wide receiver, because when you look at him, when

917
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 4: he contributes to the run blocking phase of wherever you

918
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 4: know he goes, they're gonna look at that as like, hey,

919
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 4: we're gonna want to run the ball, ground and pound

920
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: because he's going to be able as the guy on

921
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 4: the perimeter. I mean again, Sean McVay loves his wide

922
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: receiver zagod block. We're sitting there at thirteen. If we

923
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 4: could trade up and get ourselves at Carneal Tait, then

924
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: we're looking pretty pretty. But I think more so, undoubtedly

925
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: he's the wide receiver one of this class.

926
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think he is, but again it's

927
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: not I guess you want to put your conversations about

928
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: the draft.

929
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: No, I love Tyson. I love Tyson, but you know

930
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 4: the red flags are gonna just be hesitant of the

931
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 4: injury history with him, and I think a lot of

932
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: people are looking at that and probably don't want to

933
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: spend that high investment. So that's why I think Carnell

934
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: Tait is the first wide receiver off the board in

935
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: the draft.

936
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me if he's the first off the board,

937
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: doesn't mean it'll be the best. Like Milie Nighbors is

938
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: better than Marvin Harrison junior, and Marvin Harrison was the

939
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: first one draft.

940
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: And you can paint that picture in that parallel as well,

941
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 4: where I can agree with you that Marvin Harrison Carnell Tait, Yeah, obviously,

942
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 4: and then you were all in on Milik Neighbors as

943
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 4: the wide receive one day, I will say.

944
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: I think it's one A, one B. Like I I

945
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 3: think Tate probably gets drafted first. Most more people think

946
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: that he is the one, But to me, I think

947
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: these two one of the best, the best receiver from

948
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 3: this class. I would be surprised if it's not one

949
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: of these two. I think there's a fall off after them.

950
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: Fair ahead, go ahead, energy, No, Look, you guys know

951
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:25,959
Speaker 4: how I feel about kay Lemon.

952
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's I would say he's

953
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: being underrated. Right, He's still considered one of the top

954
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: three prospects in this draft, so he's not underrated. I

955
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: just I just think it's a draft class that doesn't

956
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: have a lot of sizzle. That doesn't mean these guys

957
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: are gonna be bad. There just isn't a ton of

958
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: sizzle with him.

959
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the uh, the now, well, now

960
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: we look back on it, like JSN But when that

961
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: JSN Z Flowers, Quentin Johnston, I forget who the fourth

962
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: RECEI Jordan Addison, that receiver class, we were like, it's

963
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 3: a lot of good, not a lot of like elite sizzle,

964
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: Like you were saying, then JSA's wrong, And yeah, I

965
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: mean he did.

966
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: But I think it feels like this is sort of

967
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: sort of there too as well.

968
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 4: At number eleven.

969
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: According to Charles Davis, the Dolphins taking Kenyon Sadiq, who

970
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: for fantasy purposes, seems like the only tight end that

971
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: actually is going to get any run in in real

972
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: drafts and dynasty startup drafts, you know, rookie drafts, what

973
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: have you.

974
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: I am I'm assuming this is your guy out of

975
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 4: this class out.

976
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: Here, because who else could it be. Starting to hear

977
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: the chatter the maybe the athletic testing aside from the speed,

978
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: that maybe maybe we're a little too high on him,

979
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: that maybe he has busts potential.

980
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't want to.

981
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: I take no pleasure in saying this, but that's as

982
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: you would say, that's what the fantasy streets are saying

983
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: right now.

984
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: I think bus potential is fair because it's a tight

985
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: end and I like the Dolphins fit. I think he

986
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 4: goes there, he'll be the number one option. Obviously, as

987
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: of today, what we see they have in their wide

988
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 4: receiver room, it's not as strong. But I think if

989
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: Sadik goes there there, we're going to get an immediately

990
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: fantasy impact. And I think honestly, him demanding that target share.

991
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: We look at him as an athletic freak of what

992
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: he's able to do. He's essentially a big body wide

993
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 4: receiver and you see these types like the John new

994
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 4: Smiths that are Rendez Gaskins too, you know, to all

995
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: these other athletic you know tight ends that are able

996
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: to get Chiggs. I think that you know, Sadik fits

997
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 4: in that category where he's going to make an impact

998
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: in year one if he lands in a fairly target share,

999
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: a tight end friendly offense. But when we have Malik

1000
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: Willis with only six starts and we have a very

1001
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 4: small sample size, it's still that question mark of how

1002
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 4: much are they going to get out of Kenyon Sadik?

1003
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 4: How much value are these targets going to be because

1004
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: is this going to be an offense that's going to

1005
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 4: be in more scoring opportunities than not, because we're going

1006
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 4: to need touchdowns from him to be able to be

1007
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 4: a weekly starter. I would think.

1008
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: This feels like one of those picks like that it

1009
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: just seem like a good thing, just if we're just

1010
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: talking straight up football. It just seems like not a

1011
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: great choice for the Dolphins in the sense that they

1012
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: have so many holes, so many things.

1013
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: He essentially will be replacing Waddle. But it's like, no, right,

1014
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 4: but a top twelve pick on a tight end.

1015
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: When you have so many other needs right now, it

1016
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: just feels.

1017
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 4: Like if like they need a wide receiver.

1018
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they were to take one of Tate or Tyson,

1019
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 3: I think we feel different about this pick. I what

1020
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: I'm guessing this means is that people are at least

1021
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 3: Charles Davis. But if the if the Dolphins were to

1022
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: do this, what this would tell me is they think

1023
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: Sadik is better than any of the other wide receivers

1024
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: on the board, and he would be the third best

1025
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 3: pass catcher, right, because.

1026
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: That's they're desperate they are.

1027
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever seen it. And look,

1028
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: I am a Bills fan who desperately needed a wide receiver.

1029
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've seen a wide receiver. Room

1030
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: this bad like to too out. Well, Jalen told Malik Washington,

1031
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: those are your top three stop. Yeah right there they

1032
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: And if you you invested in Malik Willis, so you

1033
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 3: need to give him weapons to give him a chance.

1034
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: So I do think whatever they do at pick eleven

1035
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: is a weapon a pass catcher. But if those top

1036
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: two receivers are off the board, there might be a

1037
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: world where like kind of like Kyle Pitt's I mean,

1038
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: he would ahead of Jamar Chase, which is ridiculous in retrospect.

1039
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 3: They were like, he's the best weapon on the board,

1040
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: and that's what we're gonna take.

1041
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: I guess I would just for us. We love the

1042
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: idea of having a pass catcher. If I'm Malik Willis,

1043
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: maybe I'm like, hey, maybe get somebody to block for me,

1044
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: like somebody who can protect me upfront, because it's so

1045
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: you remember when the Bengals had the option of Jamar

1046
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: Chase or Pine School, Right y'all remember the meme that

1047
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: that showed up right where it was like it was,

1048
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Burrow, pine Seowol. Anybody he's like throwing

1049
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: a bomb. It's like anybody else, right was the other

1050
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: side was Joe Burrow on his back, Jamar Chase down

1051
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: here and like the Bengals offensive line in the middle

1052
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: like Kenyon City, seems like a really great option. But

1053
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: if it looks like the Titans offense last year where

1054
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: Cam Wore was like one two run chuck, like, it

1055
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: doesn't quite hit the same.

1056
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 4: I can make sense of this pick at thirty because

1057
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 4: they have two first round picks. But at eleven and

1058
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 4: you take him off the board, which still a makay Lemon,

1059
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: which still like at let's say, Jordan Tyson still on

1060
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 4: the board, Like that would be like reaching because like

1061
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 4: I don't think Sadik's gonna go as high as everybody

1062
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 4: thinks he is, because again it's a tight end. Not

1063
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 4: many of these teams actually need a tight end. They

1064
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 4: either have a starter or already drafted one last year.

1065
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,959
Speaker 4: So I think at eleven taking a tight end then, yeah,

1066
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 4: we're having the same conversation we're having now, like they're

1067
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 4: in trouble.

1068
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has become more of a trend though. Tight

1069
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: Ends in the first were the top fifteen picks last year.

1070
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you're right, it is. I don't know if

1071
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: it's I don't know.

1072
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,959
Speaker 3: I'm not saying what.

1073
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 4: They should do. But Eli Sauers is the second tight

1074
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 4: end prospect, and I think there's still a gap between

1075
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 4: him and Steek, you know, like I just don't see

1076
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 4: them taking him at eleven when you could possibly get

1077
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: him at thirty, you know, like that that'll just be

1078
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: a huge reach. Yeah.

1079
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's there at thirty though, with

1080
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: the way that tight ends have been getting draftedly.

1081
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, the next step on the list at number thirteen,

1082
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: Your boy, it's kaya limit to the Panthers.

1083
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: Now, look, I know how you guys feel. It's interesting.

1084
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 4: I don't know you guys.

1085
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not fair to say you dislike Mackayelimon. You

1086
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: just like the other two guys better, and that's fine, Like,

1087
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: that's fair whatever, mkay. Limit to the Panthers though, right

1088
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: put him in that offense, having a play across from

1089
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: from Ted McMillan, uh tetor Roal McMillan because his mother

1090
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: does not like TETs, giving Bryce Young another option.

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00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: I don't know Florio.

1092
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: I like the fit at least, just he's a talented guy.

1093
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: You put him there where he doesn't have to have

1094
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: the whole weight of the world on his shoulders.

1095
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: It seems like a really nice opportunity, and.

1096
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: It would allow him to play in the slot, probably

1097
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: as the primary option there, which I think is where

1098
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: he's best suited. He he can play out wide. I

1099
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: do think Marcus and you could speak on this better

1100
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: than me. I think Lemon is one of these prospects

1101
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 3: that he's kind of held back by the way he

1102
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: was used in college. Like they weren't using him as

1103
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: a traditional X, they weren't using him to stretch out

1104
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 3: the fields. I wrote that like I and maybe this

1105
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: is because I'm just scarred from it. It was like

1106
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: watching the Bills use Khalil Shakir all year, like you

1107
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 3: cannot catch a ball if we do not see the

1108
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage on the field like it. I know

1109
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: at times Lemon was used more than that, but so

1110
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: many of his touches, my opinion at least, were just

1111
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: like generated quick comeback route stuff like that, like little screens,

1112
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: and he's fantastic with the ball in his hands after

1113
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: the catch. But I again, it's not his fault, but

1114
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 3: I wish we got to see him used a little

1115
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 3: bit more like a real number one on the Panthers,

1116
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: though he would be a good fit there. It would

1117
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: be their third first round wide receiver in the last

1118
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: four drafts, which is a lot. But yeah, I guess

1119
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: that's saying something more about one of the other two

1120
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 3: that they've already drafted. But you have Jalen Kocher there

1121
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: as well, who I think is underrated and could be

1122
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: in the slot. So like gues, my first thought here

1123
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: was like, I get it, and you want to surround

1124
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 3: Bryce Young with weapons, and I think he makes them better,

1125
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 3: But I don't think this is a dream fit for

1126
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: either side.

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00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: I think it's if this were to happen, I think

1128
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: it's more of a shot across the ballet xavierly.

1129
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 4: Yet, yes, it's kind of what that is.

1130
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: I want to say his name because he's a friend

1131
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 3: of the show.

1132
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 4: It is, it is what it is, what it is,

1133
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 4: you know. I think that's just I think it's the

1134
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 4: organization's a huge red zone threat. He's a huge red

1135
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 4: zone threat. I don't think DA goes away. I think

1136
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 4: you're you're feeling on Lemon and his usage is not wrong.

1137
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: He was the guy they just we just want to

1138
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: get the ball in your hands however we can.

1139
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 4: I think Jakobe Lane was the.

1140
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: Guy they looked at more that as a necessary traditional X,

1141
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: but he was the downfield guy and it was and

1142
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: I think that's where the Aman Rock comparisons come in,

1143
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: because we're gonna keep you near the line of scripts,

1144
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: because we just want you to use your athleticism. Just

1145
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: let's put the ball in your hands. See if you

1146
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: can make some guys, Miss Steeve, if you can just

1147
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: get downfield. And so because of that, you know, it

1148
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: always comes back to the thing I say every year

1149
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: about one or two prospects. Just because we didn't see

1150
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: a guy do something doesn't mean that that guy can't

1151
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 1: do something. And so I think we're going to find

1152
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: out about Makaia Lemon there last one twenty one, the

1153
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: Steelers taking Omar Cooper Junior.

1154
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1155
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 4: Maybe's just about the Steelers that just it's just it's

1156
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 4: not sexy. Yes, that's what it is.

1157
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: It's like, maybe this works out, and it's just because

1158
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: the Steelers are just treading water right now. We're all

1159
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: expecting Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the quarterback.

1160
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 4: Again this year.

1161
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: The the current wide receivers they have, they're in DK

1162
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: Metcalf and Michael Pittman, like they're nice players, but they

1163
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: don't necessarily blow you away.

1164
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 4: We're not.

1165
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: We're not trying to pull them up the board in fantasy.

1166
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: We're drafting them. So adding Cooper it just feels like

1167
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: more of like yeah, I guess yeah, it's not about Cooper.

1168
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: It's about the landing spot and nothing about it gets

1169
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: me nice.

1170
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 4: And I think with this deep wide receiver class, there's

1171
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of this, Like there's gonna be

1172
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: guys that we know that are talented that could probably

1173
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 4: do it and make a year one impact, but there

1174
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 4: may be situations like where Cooper ends up with the

1175
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 4: Steelers and we're gonna have to wait. And because when

1176
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 4: you have a Pittman, when you have a DK Metcalf,

1177
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 4: there isn't much room for him to actually come in

1178
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 4: with a valuable target share. So it's like, you love

1179
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: the talent, you hope that he lands somewhere that actually

1180
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: needs wide receivers where I think he's NFL really ready,

1181
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 4: Like I think he's a really polished route runner. He

1182
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 4: gives me like aj Brown two point zero vibes of

1183
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 4: his toughness, his ability after to catch, like he's basically

1184
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 4: a running back in open space, and those type of

1185
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: wide receivers you want to give them a chance and

1186
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 4: opportunity on the field to display this at a full

1187
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: time basis. So like him landing in Pittsburgh, it's like

1188
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: a downer kind of like you know in rookie drafts.

1189
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 4: So this is why we do rookie drafts after the draft,

1190
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 4: because I know some folks that are doing rookie drafts

1191
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: next week just because they're itching to draft. And I

1192
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 4: know again like like Omar to me feels like he

1193
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 4: should be a first round draft pick, like in the late,

1194
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 4: you know, twenties, maybe even in that twenty twenty five spot.

1195
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 4: But again, I just feel like him landing here it

1196
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 4: just kind of turns you off completely.

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00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: Flor I feel like, so the Steelers might be my

1198
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: anti Saints, whereas like, hey man, I might have a

1199
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: lot of saints. I'm very blatantly not if I draft

1200
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: a Steeler, you can rest assured that'll be followed by

1201
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: this sound.

1202
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like taking any of them. Like I

1203
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: don't there's not a single Steeler that.

1204
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't, I don't want to. I'm good.

1205
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: I don't like that he is playing the villain right now,

1206
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: like he's angry bro like he is partly.

1207
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: Because he he thinks he's Levy on Bell. But like

1208
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: I do think, I think it's gonna be a lot

1209
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: like last year, where maybe Warren is now the Kenneth

1210
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: Gainwell in this situation, but like they're gonna eat off

1211
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 3: of each other's plates in a very annoying way. I

1212
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: DK and Pittman are gonna eat off of each other's plates,

1213
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: and I don't trust that the passing attack is going

1214
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 3: to be much better than it was last year. Like I,

1215
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: I just want absolutely know and if they, if you

1216
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: add I like Omark Cooper, I do agree with OQ.

1217
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: He's someone you kind of got to generate touches for.

1218
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: I wrote Jaden Reed as one of the names while

1219
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: watching him, but like, if you could generate touches for

1220
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 3: him in Pittsburgh, you'll be generating them for someone else's fantasy.

1221
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: So here's something interesting.

1222
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: And I look, I understand there's not a ton of

1223
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: value in depth charts this time of year because so

1224
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: many things can change, but just looking at these Steelers'

1225
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: depth chart on our lads, they have Darnel Washington listened

1226
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: ahead of Pat Friarmouth?

1227
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 4: Wow?

1228
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: Right?

1229
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 4: Is it because of the height? Is it because of

1230
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 4: the he? I mean, he is a monster on wheels?

1231
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 4: Is what he is? Look at it again, It's it's

1232
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: late in March, so whatever, Like this is not michaemccarthy

1233
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 4: Robert Tuan fantasy relevant.

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00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: Obviously not gospel.

1235
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: But I just saw that as I was looking at

1236
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: the depth chart, I'm like, that's that's interesting.

1237
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 4: Wow.

1238
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, so yeah, that that is our look at

1239
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: Charles Davis's mock Draft three point zero again. You can

1240
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com slash mock drafts and find

1241
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: all of them for whatever analysts and draft expert that

1242
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: you'd like to read. As we wrap up the show,

1243
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: want to finish this episode with a bit of an announcement.

1244
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: This show is going on a hiatus. We know that

1245
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: we are not going to be here for a little while.

1246
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: We are hoping that this is more see you later

1247
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: than goodbye Rock with.

1248
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 3: Us on socials right like, well, I plan on going

1249
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: live on like Instagram and Twitter and stuff like that.

1250
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 3: I want to do stuff with these two. I do

1251
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: want to just real quick though, thank everyone. This pod

1252
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: is really how I got my start here at the network.

1253
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 3: Like Marcus, I was in my second day in office

1254
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 3: and you had me up in the Culver City parking

1255
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: lot on this show. Why I wore this hat today.

1256
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 3: I just want to say I appreciate everyone rocking with

1257
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: us all these years. This is my favorite show to do.

1258
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 3: I look forward to it all the time.

1259
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,479
Speaker 4: I enjoy you guys giving me the opportunity to even

1260
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 4: come on the show and get the reps. And I

1261
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 4: think this has been great. Three seasons of me on

1262
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 4: the show and kind of developing into what we call

1263
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 4: this friendship, this family. And shout out to the folks

1264
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 4: behind the scenes and the producers and everything else. Man,

1265
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 4: thank you so much.

1266
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, A big shout out to Kyrie Douglas,

1267
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: who has been with us for last couple of seasons.

1268
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: In fact, it was certainly Kyrie's idea when we had

1269
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: James rebur on talking MNGS stuff. You know, that was

1270
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: his brainchild and just you know, getting this thing together

1271
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: and graphics and video and all that kind of stuff.

1272
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 4: So certainly great for last though. Yes, Riley Leonard, let

1273
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 4: us know that.

1274
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: That'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

1275
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: Football Podcast.

1276
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 4: They happy, save and healthy, do good and live well.

1277
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: Enjoy the NFL Draft everybody, and hopefully we will see

1278
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: you again soon.

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01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 4: Wow. One w