1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: The following. He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: Cowboys This is. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, trumping wisdom and 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: offering sizzling takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: Now your host new He scrugs. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 4: Welcome to the media mash, my friends. Where you're a 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 4: media round table is when it cares to the four 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: warth Star Telegram the Hall of Famer. He is Ed 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 4: Werder Jean Jacques Taylor, form Cowboy Beat, writer and author 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 4: working on a big old, big old secreted book that 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 4: we can't talk about right now. 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: But it's good because I know he's writing about. It's good. 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 5: You do know? 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 6: Yes, do you have a busting can? 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 5: I've helped hen Does he have a busting can? 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 6: Do you have can? 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 7: No? 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 5: I don't know. My name is just scratched onto some 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 5: like plaque on the all We'll get you a bust. 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: It's it's nice. 22 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 4: But you know, so when you had the dinner and 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 4: all that, what was it like in Ken Yeah? 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, for you when you're. 25 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 5: There, I got to make like a three minute speech 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 5: at the big Gold Jacket ceremony on Friday Night. It 27 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 5: was fun to express your point of view and how 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 5: much you'd always love the NFL as a kid, and 29 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 5: you know, order your entire Christmas present list off the 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 5: Sears NFL catalog. It was great. It was an amazing 31 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 5: time and the people up there are fantastic. And it 32 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: was ironic in my mind that I was honored the 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 5: same year Jerry was inducted. So because I came to 34 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 5: Dallas the very first year he bought the team. 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: But you didn't have a party, and that was. 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 5: Jerry had me to his party though, which was equally shocking. No, 37 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 5: he let us all come much less expensive and surprising. 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 5: I know, he let you come. I'm letting meet them 39 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 5: is a different thing. 40 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 4: I just wanted to know, you know, because Jerry had Timberlake, 41 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: you know, in that class LT was there, LT had 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: t I, and ED didn't invite us and having to 43 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 4: party anything. 44 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 5: You wouldn't have come and free stuff for the free. 45 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 5: You would have been at Jerry's party the whole night, 46 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: no matter what I invited you, but you. 47 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: Would have known not to have it that day because 48 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: nobody had anything. That's why l T had TI. The 49 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 4: next night, everybody knew to go to Jerry. 50 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 5: Well, I might have had it the same night just 51 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 5: to cutch expenses. You would have cut expenses million. I 52 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: had to feed me and my wife and any family 53 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 5: members who chose to attend. 54 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: So the players coach the award gold jackets. What do 55 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: you get. It's a meaty person. You get a gold 56 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: pen watch anything. 57 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 5: Uh, they give you the actual award. But no, you 58 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 5: don't get a gold jacket. You don't get a busting 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 5: canton in the main room. But they put your name 60 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 5: on a plaque that's in their facility forever. I can 61 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 5: direct you to it if you'd like to see it. 62 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: Sometimes I think I can give you a Rick Goss 63 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 5: and I'm proud to be on it. Right after my 64 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 5: great friend Chris Mortenson. I wanted very nice. I think 65 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 5: it was a little bit of a sympathy award because 66 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 5: I had been laid off and a lot of people 67 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 5: were like to registering their i R towards ESPN for 68 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 5: you know, for letting go of a true journalist. I'm 69 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 5: not saying a great journalist. I'm just saying a true journalist. 70 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 5: And so for that reason, I think they decided to 71 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 5: elect me that year. 72 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: All right, we just left the Cowboys locker room. Dak 73 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 4: Prescott spoke today. Dak Prescott right now number one in 74 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 4: the NFL and completion percentage, number one with incompletions. 75 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: And number one in attempts. 76 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: I just say attempts right now, we're sitting down here, 77 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: which was when you brought that up to him, and 78 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: he said, hey, I'll throw it sixty times today, sixty 79 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: times if I need to. 80 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh no, no. 81 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I ain't really win in formula. 82 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: There we go. 83 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we did hear about the running game all 84 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: off season, but. 85 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: Dak is doing his part and that that for me 86 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: is the thing that and you guys let me know 87 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: how you feel, and that we got a lot of 88 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: football to go. But the year he finished second the 89 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: MVP to Lamar Tilamar Jackson, right now, I feel like 90 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: he's playing better than that. 91 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: So thirty seven touchdown passes that year there was a 92 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 5: franchise record. He's gonna own all franchise passing records, virtually 93 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 5: all of them. Although he said after the game the 94 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 5: other night, doesn't really mean anything. Damn. He's here to 95 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: win games and do it. Stallbach and Aikman did and 96 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 5: I don't know that that's going to be possible. 97 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: What the defense he's playing with, So you might as 98 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: well get all the records. 99 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 8: The reality, it's a tough reality when you're chasing Romo 100 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 8: and not stallback and eight min. That's nothing against Romo, 101 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 8: just Romo didn't win anything. 102 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: Well, Romo did what Deck has done thus far, which 103 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: has put up a bunch of gaudy numbers with no 104 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: hardware to accompany. 105 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 5: Then well he he played with this, relying on the 106 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 5: same people to build the team around him. 107 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: This is true, and Jerry says one of his big 108 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 2: regrets is not getting a Super Bowl for Tony Romo, 109 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: which is why he talked about, you know, possibly putting 110 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: him in the Ring of Honor. But I'm like, I 111 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: can't do that, Jerry. 112 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean he can't. 113 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 4: No, one man committee. No, No, the man shouldn't do it. 114 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 4: You shouldn't do it. I like Tony personally, but Tony's no. 115 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: When we have people who've won Super Bowl MVPs, it 116 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: can't get up there. No, Tony Wroe, we should not 117 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: get should be up there. 118 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: Unless you win the championship as a quarterback, you don't 119 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 5: get up there. I mean Ranny White. 120 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 4: Craig Morton took the Cowboys to their first ever Super 121 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: Bowl and the only ring of honor I've ever seen 122 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: him in is in. 123 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: Denver and they got like fifty people and he let. 124 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: Denver to there for a Super Bowl, end up losing 125 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: to the Cowboys. 126 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: But I mean when I when I talk to people 127 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 4: about the standards and what folks who haven't got in Andy, 128 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 4: we're talking about a dude who couldn't get to the 129 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: NFC Championship. 130 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 5: Game, who's two in four in his playoff career, and 131 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 5: Dak's two in five. 132 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, Dak doesn't. Dak doesn't. Dak doesn't get 133 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: in den who doesn't get in in. 134 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 6: Wittin' will have a gold jacket, Whitton Martin, Smith. 135 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: Martin will have a jacket. It will be interesting to 136 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 4: see if Tyron Smith get to one. That'll be an 137 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 4: interesting conversation. And you can speak to that because you. 138 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 5: Know, I think he's just qualified as Zach Martin his 139 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 5: for one and personally from covering his career. 140 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 4: And you know, I believe he'll I believe they'll have 141 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: the discussion. You know, I believe they'll have the discussion. 142 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: I think he's viewed around the league as a uniquely 143 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 5: great player and a physical freak. 144 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: And he was just quiet. 145 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 5: Well so is Zach. But I think he has a 146 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame reputation around the league. 147 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: And that's and once again that that's an interesting thing. 148 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 4: Look like this, I'd have a conversation about Tyron Smith 149 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 4: and obviously a gold jacket will definitely put you there. 150 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: But no, if we're not, those are the only people 151 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: I would be having any conversations about. 152 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 5: But but he didn't win a championship either. 153 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 4: But if you get a gold jacket, it's that that 154 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: to me, super Bowl gold jacket, it's got to be. 155 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 4: It's got to be one of the two right now, 156 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: or I don't see how you get in there. 157 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: Around here, yes. 158 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: Around here and the Cowboys Ring of Honor because you know, 159 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 4: I said, you've got guys with Super Bowl MVPs who 160 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: can't get up there. And as far as the quarterback 161 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 4: thing goes, we set the standard, right, Oh yeah, ring 162 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: ringing jacket. 163 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: It's the set. 164 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: It's a high standard, that right, and. 165 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: You know, and it is that's and they should keep 166 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: it that way. 167 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 5: But when you when you look at this team, the 168 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 5: dichotomy of this team offensively and defensively. It's I'm not 169 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 5: sure it's ever been this extreme before. Like Romo had 170 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 5: more competitive defenses in his tenure than Dak has has 171 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 5: generally had. Of course, they kept the Marcus where they 172 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: didn't trade him like they did Michael Parsons. But I 173 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 5: just think it's I mean, to be first in the 174 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 5: NFL on offense and dead last in defense, which they 175 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 5: were next to last in defense last year, and so 176 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: maybe it's just a they don't draft as well on defense. 177 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: I think that's proven if you look at how they 178 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 5: performed in the draft. Look at they've had eight first 179 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: round picks. They devoted ford offense and for to defense. 180 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 5: But look at the offensive players they picked and the 181 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 5: impact they've had versus the defensive players they picked. Since 182 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 5: Dak Prescott became the starting quarterback. 183 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: Here's one thing I will say, and it's it's not 184 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: an excuse. 185 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: But but that means it's going to sound like one. 186 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: They keep running through coordinators here. 187 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 5: On defense, Yes, yeah, he'd been morething. 188 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: To be safe, You've been more consistent with their offense 189 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: and saying you know, Jerry, oh you know what when 190 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: when he had Jason Garrett. He was like, well, you know, 191 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: we want to keep the offense here going, and they 192 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: paid Jason a lot of money, but defens me, they 193 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 4: just I mean, you look at the last three guys. 194 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I said last year when they hired Mike Zimmer, 195 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: you're not giving the carpenter the tools that he wins with. 196 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: He wins with big people. 197 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 4: So just now you've got Ibraflus here and he's out 198 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: here doing his own and we got Diggs talking about 199 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: I'm a man guy. 200 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 8: I mean, just that's a good point because dan Quinn 201 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 8: when he was here for those three years, that was 202 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 8: the most consistent. 203 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 6: You saw this defense and a big. 204 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 5: Voice in the draft, Rightank exactly right. They drafted for him. 205 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: They gave the carpenter the tools that he needed. And 206 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: the other thing that dan Quinn was able to do 207 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: was go bring in his people. You know, he got 208 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 4: to go bring in guys at all three levels here. 209 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 5: You didn't get to bring in Bobby Wagner, all though he. 210 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 4: Wanted to, true and Bobby's done well for him in Washington. 211 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 4: Probably should have listened to him on that. 212 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 6: But you got Marquise Bell. Don't need Bobby Wagner twenty 213 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 6: twenty three. 214 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I think when we're talking in terms 215 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: of defense here, if I'm talking about just looking at. 216 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been no consistency of philosophy, and so it 217 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 5: becomes harder to fit the right players in or to 218 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 5: have assemble the right cast for what you're trying to 219 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 5: do on that side of level since. 220 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty you think about it, So you had Nolan, Quinn, 221 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: Zimmer four and six years and now you're on Eberflus. 222 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: None of the four ran the same thing, right, that's 223 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: a challenge you're trending towards five and seven. 224 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 5: But two of them had something in common that's important 225 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 5: to the Joneses, and that's familiarity. They knew Zim and 226 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 5: they knew Eberflus, and so that's why to me this like, 227 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 5: you can't blame Ebraflus for this. He's proven to be 228 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 5: a successful defensive coordinator in with other franchises, right one, 229 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: and he has. He was here for seven years under 230 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 5: Rod Marinelli. He called the defenses here. Most people don't 231 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 5: know that because that wasn't technically his job, but Rod 232 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 5: had him call in the defenses. 233 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: What did he win here? And what did they win 234 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis? 235 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 5: Well, what did they have in Indianapolis? Who was the quarterback? 236 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 5: They won when they had Andrew Luck? But he wasn't 237 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 5: there then I had good defenses. I just wonder how 238 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 5: did they not have top ten defenses. I just wonder 239 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: how they weren't thirty second in the NFL. They weren't, 240 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 5: and they've been thirty second in the NFL or just 241 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 5: three of the guys you've named. 242 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: I'm not saying this is all his phone, because I said, 243 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: before we talked about it, you thought you have Michael Parsons. 244 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: But I do wonder how good easy because we. 245 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 5: I don't know, but we gave him no chance to 246 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 5: find out when you trade Michael Parsons a week before 247 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 5: the season starts. 248 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: I go back to even with Zimmer, you didn't give 249 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: him the pieces he needed, so we're bringing your breeze. 250 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 5: He had that piece, he had a pass rush. True, 251 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 5: they were injured a lot. The injuries were the big 252 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: problem with him. I mean, I don't know that he 253 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 5: necessarily met their expectations as a coach either, but he 254 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 5: could certainly cite injuries as being a cause for them 255 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: finishing next to Lass in the NFL. 256 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: And well, the goal was to improve the run defense 257 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 3: and so not to run defenses better. 258 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 5: That's the first thing you ever flew center, as Prescofverce say, 259 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 5: let's talk about how good this run defenses. That really 260 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 5: good thing, you guys. 261 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: You know, the problem is you stop it on first 262 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: and second time, and then because you got no passwords, 263 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: third and for fourteen is like third and two. 264 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 5: I waste your time running on this team. 265 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 6: That's why Green bagos eight for eleven on third down. 266 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, you're better off if you can't 267 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 5: stop the ruck because people generally don't score a lot 268 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 5: of points. You know what running the football. 269 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: You're exactly right, No, for real, you're better off. 270 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: It hurts, but it's harder for teams to run the ball, 271 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: you know, fourteen plays down. 272 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: The field than it is two big plays and get 273 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: it in. 274 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: When it comes to running the rush defense, Cowboys rush 275 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: defenses twenty first in the league. They gave up one 276 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty three yards a game. They're dead last 277 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 4: in passing giving up basically being a negative, and on 278 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: third down the Cowboys are dead last fifty eight percent. 279 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Those the negative stats find some positives. 280 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 4: They are fifth in sacks. Really, no, I should say 281 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 4: they're tied for twenty six five. So that's not what 282 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: I'm trying to find. Was a high number. 283 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 5: He thought he had a story for tomorrow. 284 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 4: Eighteenth they eate, They're tied for eighteenth of the fumble 285 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: recoveries won. 286 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: Damn it, I've gotten to me. I got nothing bro. 287 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 5: For three years while they won those twelve games, like, 288 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 5: they had a defensive identity, right, dan Quinn created a 289 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 5: defensive identity we already talked about. He was allowed to 290 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 5: pick his players, sure, and they put those players in 291 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 5: the right system for the right coach. And they built 292 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 5: an identity based on a ferocious pass rush, one of 293 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 5: the best pass rushers in football, and taking the ball away, 294 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 5: scoring defensive touchdowns. Yeah, setting up the offense for easy 295 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 5: short field short None of that happens now. 296 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: So let me just spitball this. 297 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 4: What if they had kept Joe wit Junior, who wanted 298 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 4: the job, instead of saying no, we want Mike Zimmer 299 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: and then Joe goes up to Washington and helps them 300 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 4: coordinate a defense that goes in the NFCY Championship game. 301 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: Well, it only works if you're going to let him 302 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: do what he do if you're going to keep the 303 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: same system and allow him kind of the same leeway 304 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: to put the same players in the same system. 305 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 8: And if we're following trajectory with what this front office 306 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 8: likes to do, Joe Whittett didn't have that play calling 307 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 8: experience and they wanted the guy who not only had 308 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 8: that but also head coaching experience in the same token. 309 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 5: So I don't assume that anybody could have done what 310 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 5: Dan Quinn did here. I mean, I know he wasn't 311 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 5: popular when he left because they lost a lot of 312 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 5: games to the best opponents and they got run on. 313 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 5: But to me, they had better opportunities to win games, 314 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 5: and they were playing more important games, and the record 315 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 5: was certainly better than what they have now. 316 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: Well, they play, they did what they did. I mean, 317 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: the identity was clear. 318 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: Undersized players, speed pass rush man man, you know, I mean, 319 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 3: you know exactly what they're doing. That's why they were 320 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: incredible front runners and would blow you out if they 321 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: got up. 322 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 5: But you yeah, pally score forty and they don't win. Yeah, 323 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 5: probably should have kept being Quinn one way or another. 324 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: YEAP moved on from Mike McCarthy if you were't going 325 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: to get a guy an extension. 326 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty hard. 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That's not a lot. 390 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 6: And Marquise Bell. 391 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 4: Edwarder the Hall of Famers here, Nick is the FoST Telegram, 392 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: Jean Jacques Tayled, the former Cowboy Beat Rider and the author, 393 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 4: joining us right here on the media mash. 394 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 6: Can I say something about the free safety situation? 395 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: Please? Please? 396 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 8: I think I think they have a potential to fall 397 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 8: up with one year, Thomas coming in and Malie Cooker 398 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 8: getting hurt in this instance. 399 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: You've been banging a drum for a minute. 400 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 5: But you really think Donovan Wilson's a bigger problem? 401 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 8: Yes, I agree, I agree, But I think one Yea 402 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 8: has a little bit more when it comes to the 403 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 8: communications standpoint, and that's been proven this week from what 404 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 8: Schottenheimer and Ebraflus have said. 405 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 6: So I think they have a potential to get better 406 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 6: with him on the field. 407 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 5: I think I know what the communication problem is. By 408 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 5: the way, is that a practice today? You can't hear 409 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: a thing out there with it sounds like a nightclub 410 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 5: out there. How could anybody coach or communicate through all 411 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 5: that noise? 412 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: That's crowd noise, that's what it's not. 413 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: Crowd noise. 414 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: That's what they're going to do when they go to. 415 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 6: The JITs this week, that rowdy MetLife noon crowd. 416 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 5: They don't have anything like that. I don't know. 417 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 6: I think it's louder. 418 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 5: So anyway I might look into that. 419 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: What would they play? 420 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 5: I have no idea. It wasn't anything I recognized. It's 421 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 5: not on my playlist. 422 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: So so and here here's nothing. The next time you 423 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 4: got there, just record it. No want to say, Sirie, 424 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 4: what song is this? 425 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you really just not Fleetwood Max. He 426 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: don't know. 427 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 6: A little DMX tear it up. We had the horns going. 428 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 6: It was nice. 429 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: Anything you heard I did? 430 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't see him. 431 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 5: It wasn't the Eagles out there, right, It wasn't the 432 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 5: Eagles the band they played in the divisions. They performance 433 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 5: the Sphere and it's a beautiful thing about music. There's 434 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: beautiful things and everything. 435 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: Did you see him? You did? Yep. 436 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 4: Somebody asked me that someone going to Last Face and 437 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 4: the Eagles playing. I said, I'm taking my kids like 438 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 4: to celebrate the twenty first birthday, so that my kid 439 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: has no clue who they are. 440 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 5: Son him that my kids listened to that listened to 441 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 5: classic rock. 442 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: I was, uh, just taking my son to school, and 443 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: he demanded control of the ox and I was shocked 444 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: at the eclectic blend of music because there was some 445 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: boast gags in there and some some maybe body else. 446 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: I'm just letting you know, this kid's not doing it. 447 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 4: And I know without checking that a ticket to the 448 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 4: Eagles the Sphere is not going. 449 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: To be cheap. 450 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: So now you do know that without check, right. 451 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: So I'm not going to spend money, good money on 452 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 4: a ticket like that. And my kids does not know 453 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: everybody singing ticket to the limit. 454 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 5: The kids is no, that was like practice, same look exactly, 455 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 5: said to something sphares the window. 456 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so no, I'll say, save myself some dollars 457 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 4: on that end, take the kid to go eat someplace. 458 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 4: Jackie talked about how this is a losable game here 459 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 4: and your Talk one right, we're talking about this on 460 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: the other podcast. 461 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: I do the Jets defense here. 462 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: You talk about number one league right now, fourteen point 463 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: seven points game. They're third in yards per game, giving 464 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 4: up here two hundred and thirty two, talk about rushing 465 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: yards only giving up sixty four. That's third in the 466 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 4: league right now. 467 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 5: So give it up at least twenty seven points in 468 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 5: every game, which is the Jets are usually a strong 469 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 5: defensive team. 470 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: So and you know with the Cowboys and at the 471 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: third down, third down there thirty four point seven twelve. 472 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: So the problem is this is a it's a game. 473 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: You know, there's been a lot of feel good this week, 474 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: a lot of great Dax stats, a lot of great performances. 475 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: Dame won, but one game is you. 476 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: I'm worried about the offensive line. 477 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 5: And the only game they won they scored forty points 478 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 5: at home and had to go to overtime to pull 479 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 5: it off against a winless opponent. 480 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: And so now you got the Jets coming up. 481 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: And it's not like the Jets are great, but when 482 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: you have a compromised offensive line and you have a 483 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: compromised offense and your defense is terrible through the first month, 484 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: you could lose real easy because and I harke him 485 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: back to the Chicago game. Okay, it's a ball game, 486 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: and then they just kept the ball the whole third quarter. 487 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: You punt it once, which is okay, but now you 488 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: never got the ball back. When you got it back, 489 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: game was. 490 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: Over noon game. 491 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to be I'm not sure I want 492 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: to be madd eberflush now, but I definitely don't want 493 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 5: to be madd Eberflus if he loses twice to former 494 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 5: Bears quarterbacks that he couldn't win with in Chicago, and 495 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 5: you can't because it was Kayleb Williams and this week 496 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 5: it's justin fields. And my first thought about this game 497 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 5: was the Jets are horrible throwing the football at least 498 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: they don't have to worry shouldn't have to worry about 499 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 5: a bunch of explosive plays being made against them in 500 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 5: their past defense. But we saw what Justin Fields did 501 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 5: the other night with a forty three hour touchdown run 502 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 5: on what probably should have been a sack. Then and 503 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 5: you start thinking about how poorly they've defended the running 504 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: quarterback over the years, and you're like, well, who knows. 505 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: And then they got Garrett Wilson. 506 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, but if the guy can't throw him 507 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 5: the ball, then it doesn't matter how good he is. 508 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: And I mean they saw Fields last year in Pittsburgh, right, 509 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 5: he was horrible throwing the football. They won on the 510 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 5: road against him in Pittsburgh. 511 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: Well, one thing we do know. 512 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: And then I talked to Kenny Clark about this between 513 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 4: Fields and Billy. 514 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 1: Man, that's your new boy. Can he clack a client? Now? 515 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm just asking, I'm just. 516 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 5: Asking, can he not talk to people in the locker room? 517 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: And man, this is we're talking about the trends? 518 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 5: Go ahead, please do we all be interested? 519 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: Kenny Kenny is a good Wednesday guy who shows up. Okay, 520 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: one thing we know from you guys have beat Rider 521 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: who's on show up. Kenny Clark is there on a 522 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 4: Wednesday to show up, and he's a good sound bite 523 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 4: and I'm giving it there and the defense isn't good. 524 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 4: So he's one of the few people who actually talk 525 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: to you and give you something. Jack Samboord talk to 526 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 4: Jack one day, Jack. 527 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: A little bit, you know, Jack, a little personal. Sam 528 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: gave us nothing the other day, a little chip on 529 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: the shoulders. 530 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: So at least what he got a chip on the shoulder. Okay, 531 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm persecuted. 532 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 5: He's been persecuted into poor performances. 533 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so Kenny Clark. 534 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: At least. 535 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: The truth. 536 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 4: Kenny Clark is the truth teller. But got me defending myself. 537 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: Oh how much this game remind you of Philadelphia where 538 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: you've got a quarterback who can take off on you 539 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 4: really quick, and then you've got another runner or a 540 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 4: good running back that you got to worry about here 541 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 4: that combination of two guys. You know, what are the 542 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: rush lanes and responsibilities when you when you play a 543 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 4: team like this, And so he said, yeah, very much. 544 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: So reminds him of the Eagle game. 545 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 4: What they've got to go through with this one two punch, 546 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 4: with these guys' abilities to take off a run. 547 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 5: And you re housed mentioned today that they've watched some 548 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 5: of the Eagles tapes as a you know, teaching opportunity 549 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 5: as far as the opportunities they created for a running 550 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 5: quarterback to really win the game against him. Yes, you know, 551 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: five scrambles for first downs, two touchdown runs off scrambles. 552 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: So and Justin Field is good enough to take it 553 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: a long way to the house. I mean, he went 554 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: forty three the other day, but I think he's got 555 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: like five of more than forty in his career. 556 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: No, he can, he can. This could be a problem, 557 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: you know. 558 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: I just think I'd rather have that problem than the 559 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 5: passing quarterback problem with a good group of receivers. Yes, 560 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 5: because they can't cover anybody. We haven't seen him cover anybody. 561 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 5: Have you seen him cover anybody? Like you look at 562 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 5: a player, there's five guys wide open. 563 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 564 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 5: When the when the third play of the game is 565 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 5: a go ball and your only hope of it defending 566 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 5: it is a two guys run into each other or 567 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 5: fight each other for the ball and it falls to 568 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 5: the ground. Somehow, that's not an ideal circumstance. You'd like 569 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 5: to avoid that. 570 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 6: And even Jordan Love got away with some big scrambles. 571 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 5: Now he had like a twenty five yard round, he 572 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 5: had a couple of them. 573 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: Not good, guys, it's not good. It's just this is 574 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: not good. 575 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 5: Is it gonna get better? 576 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: Like that's there's help. 577 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: On the way? Yeah, Overstone's coming, Rebel's coming. 578 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 4: Nick just said, this level times is about to just 579 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: show us something. 580 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 5: What about like how much better can it get? Really? Honestly, 581 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 5: how much better do you think this defense can get? 582 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: Are they gonna acquire anybody? 583 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 5: No without making a trade. 584 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: No, And there's not a trade to make that's gonna help. 585 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 5: You need. 586 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: You need so much help. It's it's not funny. I 587 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: don't know. 588 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 8: If you put a really talented, communicative linebacker in that middle, 589 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 8: it could solve a lot of issue. You couldn't solve 590 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 8: every issue, but it could solve a lot of issues. 591 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 8: My opinion, really my opinion, well. 592 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 5: How come they don't have that guy? Is that important? 593 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 8: Why don't they bad evaluating? Horrible evaluating in the off season. 594 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 8: I think there was a little bit too much trust 595 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 8: in certain people's eyes when building this defense. When you 596 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 8: look at Kenneth Murray, look at Jack Sanborn as being 597 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 8: your two bell cow linebackers. 598 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Either one of those guys were good on their previous teams. 599 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 6: And it makes an since why so why you thought here? 600 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: Whoever made those decision? 601 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 5: Thomas wasn't good on his last team either, But he's 602 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: played good here. 603 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: He's played good here. 604 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: I give you that, But I don't know why you 605 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: thought those guys were gonna be good. Yeah, and you 606 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 3: can overachieve. See that's a pleasant surprise. 607 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 6: But I don't you know, the days of the rocked up, 608 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 6: you know, stiff linebacker who can still fly downhill and 609 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 6: make plays. That's just over. 610 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 8: And I think if you know, if we're talking late 611 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 8: two thousands, Kenneth Murray, Jack Sandborn, man, it'd be a 612 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 8: lot of fun. But we need them in space and 613 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 8: uh in this day and age, and you know this, 614 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 8: this this defense can't work with those two guys. 615 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 5: And yet they might continue to play. 616 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 6: And they continued to play. 617 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 8: We saw we saw Marilia foul, you know, swap in 618 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 8: and out for Jack Sanborn, and we saw Shamar James 619 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 8: do the same in the fourth quarter and overtime. But yeah, 620 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 8: it's it's not much better that this. This team does 621 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 8: need overshown because they need a guy in space that's athletic. 622 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 8: They need a guy that can cover sideline a sideline 623 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 8: and he can bring that, but he can't do it 624 00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 8: all himself. 625 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 6: He can't be the and he's coming off of that too. 626 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 5: And he can rush the passer when he's at his. 627 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: Best right, but he's not gonna be at his best. 628 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 5: Then he's only going to play half the season. 629 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 3: He'll be at his best next year, but this year 630 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 3: is just be you know, a body working his way back. 631 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 6: Well, let me ask you. 632 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 8: Let's see trade deadline November fourth, about a month away. 633 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 8: Let's say they are three and three and one. At 634 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 8: that point in time, offense is still cooking like it 635 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 8: has been these first four weeks. 636 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 6: There's a linebacker out there on the block. 637 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 8: Do you go and make that deal, knowing that you 638 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 8: might have to give up a fifth round pick, knowing that, 639 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 8: knowing you don't have a third round pick right now. 640 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 5: I'd rather do a deal for Max Crosby. 641 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: In that situation, we can't mention names, Eddie. People are 642 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: under contract. Okay, go ahead and stay with. 643 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: That guy like Max Crosby. 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The official twenty twenty five Sideline 693 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 4: hat collection is out now, and the collections made for players, coaches, 694 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: and you make sure you stop by a pro shop 695 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: near you are logging to shop dot Dallas Cowboys dot 696 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 4: com fanatics experience and score your favorite style. The injury 697 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: report is out, Nick, and it looks like there could 698 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: be a whole lot of dudes wearing that twenty twenty 699 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 4: five Sideline hack collections. 700 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 5: Oh that was only like. 701 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: A I mean yeah, yeah, my gosh. 702 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 8: This is under contract. Yes, this injury report. The only 703 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 8: difference from yesterday, and we talked about a lot of 704 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 8: the guys yesterday, was a guy added in Marshaw Neeland. 705 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 8: He was limited with an ankle. I will say I 706 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 8: saw Marshall Neyland in the locker room. He looked in good spirits. 707 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 8: So I don't know if it's uh, you know, something 708 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 8: to be super concerned about. 709 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 6: But that was the only guy added. 710 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 5: But Tyler, feelings aren't hurt, but something else is. 711 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 8: Maybe maybe Tyler Booker, we did see him on the 712 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 8: courts today, but did not practice. Tyler Guyden still in 713 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 8: concussion protocol, Malie Hooker's not going to play, Ceedee Lamb's 714 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 8: probably not going to play. Miles Sanders still trending in 715 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 8: the wrong direction. Did not practice today. Tyler Smith did 716 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 8: not practice that still one. Cavante Turpin not expecting him 717 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 8: to play this weekend either, did not practice. 718 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: So hees so because if Tyler doesn't play, said, you 719 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: could possibly have four different offensive I mean from your 720 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: starting group. 721 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 6: That's crazy. 722 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: Malie Hooker not playing. 723 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's you start to look at this 724 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: and then going back and we talked yesterday about Ed 725 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 4: you weren't here, but the offensive line issues of all right, 726 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: Tyler Smith, Guidon your left side right here, What happens 727 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: if you don't have both of them? What happens if 728 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: if you have one or two of them and then 729 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 4: they get hurt in the game. 730 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 5: Just your death is already on the field, thank you. 731 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: You're not talking about your third string somebody. 732 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 5: It's like that T and T the who he is, 733 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 5: and Dak's already protecting himself more than any of the 734 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 5: five offensive linemen are pro anymore at least as well well. 735 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 8: To think about it too, they only get those three 736 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 8: practice squad elevations. They are going to have to make 737 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 8: someone active on Sunday most likely who is not going 738 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 8: to be ready to play. I think about the Tyrone 739 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 8: Smith situation in Arizona a couple of years ago when 740 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 8: he was made active, but he was hurt and he 741 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 8: couldn't play, but they they may as well had him 742 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 8: on the active roster because you know, it is. 743 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 6: What it is at that point. So it's it's going 744 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 6: to be tough reality. 745 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: When losable game, you got to win very losible game. 746 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 4: Jets oh and four looking for their first win and 747 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: if that don't help, right, and then the week before 748 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 4: here are the Giants face face facing the Chargers at home, 749 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: and they get themselves at some point time. 750 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: You know, the Jets aren't going over. Okay, they're not 751 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: going over. 752 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: And we've seen the Cowboys like it was a JG 753 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 4: special back in twenty nineteen, went on up to the 754 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: medal lands got beat and they had they were missing 755 00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: two tackles. 756 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 5: The Jets are the fourth team to start zero to 757 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 5: four and have no takeaways. Of those previous teams. Every 758 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 5: one of them won the next game and had multiple takeaways. 759 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 8: It's looking like a good trend. There's a lot of 760 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 8: things playing against this Cowboys team, not only the injuries. 761 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 8: This team doesn't play well on noon games on the road. 762 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 8: This Jets team has a scrambling quarterback. Like we mentioned, 763 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 8: there's just too many things working against this team. It's 764 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 8: a scary matchup. A pretty good run defense, pretty good 765 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 8: run defense, suspect passes. 766 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: The team looking for a win and having watched tape, going, 767 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: we can get this one. 768 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Aaron Glenn's former team. 769 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so Aaron Glenn had some pretty good numbers here. 770 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: Glenn was a good football player for the time. 771 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 5: He's in TEXTAA team here with what Bill Parcels. 772 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: Yes, part of the five club friends of Bill, Yeah 773 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: Parcels the Parcels. 774 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 5: Gay get five or six interceptions I think in eight starts. 775 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: Good player, Yeah, good player, good coach, you know good. 776 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 5: And the Jets. He's a third Jets coach to start 777 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 5: ohing four. None of them have started on five. 778 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: He'd be the first. Oh, I don't gamble. 779 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: I don't need that. 780 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 6: We don't do that on the show, right. 781 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: I don't gamble or off the show. 782 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: I don't gamble, but boy, if I worry degenerate, I'd 783 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 4: be taking. 784 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 5: Some very You could be a degenerate not gamble. 785 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 786 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 5: In other ways, wanting to a degenerate from what I understand. 787 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 6: A gamble too much tostedos. 788 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 5: I'm glad to know you don't gamble. 789 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: Yes, no, no. 790 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 4: At my time in La served me well enough, and 791 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: then we used to go to Vegas all the time 792 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 4: for the fights, and so I got it all out 793 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: of I was young, got it all out of my 794 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: system to the point I'm good. 795 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm good now. 796 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 5: I'm watching Black Rabbit right now on Netflix, and it's 797 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 5: a great show. Yeah, it introduces that element of degenerate 798 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 5: gambling and the damaging effects of it. 799 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: The one thing I'll always remember that was never bad 800 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 4: at it. I could, I had limits and it stop. 801 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 4: But I remembered one time it was I don't know, 802 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 4: maybe eleven forty. 803 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 5: It was a long. 804 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: Line walking through saying what's the line for? People were 805 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 4: standing in line to wait to get to the ATM 806 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 4: to get the next day's money back to the limit 807 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 4: like the limit, and then over by the ATM you're 808 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: seeing at this continue I saw it set deed office. 809 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: You're not putting your crib up. So I said, man, 810 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: now that's the generate. 811 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 4: These are the kind of like when you decide, you know, 812 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 4: I'm probably not going to do this anymore. Except I 813 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 4: didn't ever have a problem, but I was like, man, 814 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: these people got issues. 815 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 6: Man, you know what's crazy. 816 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: I was. 817 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 8: I had to fly into Milwaukee for the Chicago game 818 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 8: because of all the weather and the travel delays in DFW. 819 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 8: So I flew into Milwaukee and I took an uber 820 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 8: down to Chicago and when we were coming down, right 821 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 8: at the state line, there was the rest area and 822 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 8: it was just packed this rest area and it was 823 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 8: pouring down rain. I was like, what are people doing. 824 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 8: They're not on the road right now, lot machines. And 825 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 8: what it was was it was Saturday and the night 826 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 8: games were about to start in college football. Those are 827 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 8: all those people at that rest area. Because in Illinois 828 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 8: you can do the Draft Kings and the underdogs of 829 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 8: the world, and the Wisconsin you can't. And my uber 830 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 8: Jarver is like, yeah, you will see that every every Saturday, 831 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 8: every Sunday, right right at the state limes, right at 832 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 8: that state line, He's like you you might even catch 833 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 8: it for the eleven PM Hawaii kickoff tonight, and uh yeah, 834 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 8: it's it's it's a real it's a real thing. Call 835 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 8: the hotline, all the hot line. If you're at a 836 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 8: rest area at five thirty pouring down rain in Chicago, 837 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 8: call the hot lie. 838 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: That makes me think that's when somebody needs to take 839 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 4: the video is show it to the local, to the 840 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 4: state politicians like this is money that's leaving. 841 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 6: That's true, that is very true. 842 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: This is this is Wisconsin. 843 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 6: Money is now the flip side. Let's take advantage of 844 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 6: this degenerate. 845 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta go somewhere. 846 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 6: That's that's the American in Texas. 847 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: You're all going over here to Oklahoma and simple you 848 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 2: want you want to keep the money here. 849 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 4: You know, build a fence, people build fence, keep your 850 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 4: tax dollars build right, we go leave on that note, 851 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 4: all right. 852 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 5: Uh had I was chastised for saying this guy like. 853 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 4: That, Hey man, league, ain't calling me about that Rams 854 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 4: niners tonight. 855 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: Who you got? It's the games of the Rams. 856 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: Now you gotta go with the with the Rams. 857 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 5: Absolutely, the Rams. Given how injured the forty. 858 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 4: Nine, everybody said last year, everybody went with the Rams, 859 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 4: and the Rams are good except for the Stafford threw 860 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,479 Speaker 4: for three seventy five last week. 861 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: He a Hall of Famer. 862 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he is. He won a super Bowl, 863 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 5: put up big numbers, survived Detroit. 864 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: He's played himself into the Hall of Fay. 865 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 5: With the Rams. He would not have been a Hall 866 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 5: of Famer without the Super Bowl. 867 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: Ring he was out of my mouth. 868 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 6: Yep, I agree, I agree. 869 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 870 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: A bunch of gaudy numbers. 871 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: Crazy. Yeah. 872 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 4: He was the catcher for Clayton Kershaw at Highland Park 873 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 4: High School and both men are going to the Hall 874 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 4: of Fame. Clayton wi he's retiring after the season. So 875 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 4: what was. 876 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 6: This on the contract? 877 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 5: What was his caught stealing rate? 878 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. You know what with Clayton Kershot did 879 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 4: they get on? Oh that's true too, they even get on. 880 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 5: That's why it's but it's a percentage, right, the percentage 881 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,959 Speaker 5: of the guys who tried to steal, not the total 882 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 5: number of guys who succeeded. I just want the percentage. 883 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 5: Let's look that up. 884 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: That's why you're the hole. 885 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 4: Let's have a research ed Nick Jack I'm newing for 886 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 4: producer Chris Being and everybody else here at Dallas Cowboys 887 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 4: dot com. 888 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: This has been the media masch talk Youlate. 889 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 4: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 890 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.