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Speaker 1: and it is Friday. That means we got a lot

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Speaker 1: to get talking. We get some injury reports. We got

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Speaker 1: last night the week eleven kicking off in the NFL

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots, just the Patriots smoked. That game was

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Speaker 1: the final score was not indicative. Well, the rosan era

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