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Speaker 1: Zoe and you're listening to Climbing in Heels. This show

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Speaker 1: is all about celebrating the most extraordinary superwomen who will

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Speaker 1: be sharing their incredible journeys to the top, all while

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Speaker 1: staying glamorous today with me, I am so excited to

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Speaker 1: have one of my favorite stylists, celebrity stylists and co

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Speaker 1: of her business that she's launched since becoming a stylist,

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Speaker 1: Carla Welsh. Carla opens up about how she started her

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Speaker 1: she was eleven years old with her dad, and how

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Speaker 1: Carla is sharing with us how hard work, very hard work,

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Speaker 1: listen to this episode it's really good. It's progressive, it's honest,

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Speaker 1: it's candid, it's open. It's really important and something we

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Speaker 1: right into it with Carla, and I hope you love

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Speaker 2: Much as I do.

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Speaker 1: I think anyone who knows what a stylist is and

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Speaker 1: you know, and I know that so many people actually don't,

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Speaker 1: but I think anyone who does absolutely knows who you

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Speaker 1: And I also think people obviously outside the end industry really.

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Speaker 1: And I think you've become this very prominent voice for

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Speaker 1: so many different things, for so many people. But I

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Speaker 2: She got lucky? How did she get right? Or like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, who's this girl? Carla? Well, she like

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Speaker 1: So I started this because I think for all the

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Speaker 3: Then I watched I mean, I'm so influenced by cinema

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and one day this fucking guy walked in and

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Speaker 2: That was Matthew Welch, my husband of twenty one years,

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Speaker 2: And a lot of boys came in and flirted. This

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Speaker 2: we're making a change. And that was it.

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Speaker 2: I'm dead, that's crazy. I met Roger. He was a

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Speaker 2: That's I can feel the burn and my arms still. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Crazy was like the people taking the elevator at the

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Speaker 5: Totally, totally, so much grunt work, like weltering, sweltering, sweltering, weltering,

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Speaker 1: Because people have asked me, like, what was it like

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Speaker 3: Yes to everything, Yes to everything, And I honestly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so incredibly true.

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Speaker 2: And so many of them sucked. So many of them.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a more recent thing I do.

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Speaker 2: I think that's really the people that get to the top. Honestly, Rachel,

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Speaker 3: Say yes, work your ass up, get kicked around a bit. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's a performance. It's the same skills that I had

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Speaker 1: And retail is the same. Retail is the same, and

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Speaker 3: I remember that, and there's always going to be.

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Speaker 2: That, right, of course, I know that there'll be different

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Speaker 2: where my tielines run out.

441
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Speaker 3: But I was like, yeah, but there's some of us

442
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Speaker 3: who are so consistent and chill and just our operators,

443
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Speaker 3: you know, not to take the glamor out of it.

444
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Speaker 2: No, No, it's true. Also, I'm a fucking business woman.

445
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 2: I run a multimillion dollar company. Like that's that's Carlo

446
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 2: Welch Styling. That's the deal.

447
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 3: And it's like I pay my employees and I give

448
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Speaker 3: healthcare and retirement and it's like that to me is

449
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Speaker 3: like wow, that's part of it. You know.

450
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Speaker 2: It's like it's so important.

451
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Speaker 3: And that's something I say to young people, like know

452
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Speaker 3: how to pay the bills because.

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a business. But I you thought beyond it.

454
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Speaker 1: And that's the other thing I really want to talk

455
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Speaker 1: about that. Also, who who was your first client visible that.

456
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Speaker 2: You were like that? People were like, who the.

457
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Speaker 3: Hell was Carla Welsh Oh, Olivia Wilde.

458
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Speaker 2: I just saw her at Baby to Baby. I love her.

459
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Speaker 2: She's fucking mean seven.

460
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Speaker 3: We've been together seventeen years, no way, yeah, seventeen years.

461
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Speaker 2: So she's like my gen garn sixteen years. Yeah yeah totally.

462
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Speaker 2: I mean I'm not obviously doing it anymore.

463
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we were together for one hundred years and

464
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Speaker 1: now we're now we're like mom friends.

465
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Speaker 2: It's so funny.

466
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Speaker 3: Well, life just but you know you asked me like

467
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Speaker 3: that question of like where I thought, oh my god,

468
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Speaker 3: I have to make it or I'm dead.

469
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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I feel nervous every job I do.

470
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Speaker 2: I mean, not as much anymore, but I have that

471
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Speaker 2: letterfly Still there's butterflies. And I remember having like the

472
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Speaker 2: first kind of real movie star opportunity came I away

473
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Speaker 2: with an actress and she was trying out. It wasn't

474
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Speaker 2: that long ago, and she was trying out a couple

475
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Speaker 2: of stylists and everything went wrong for mine, like to

476
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Speaker 2: like Ted Cruz winning the election, to the fire, to

477
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Speaker 2: a shooting. It was just like a storm of like

478
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 2: negative and it didn't go my way.

479
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: And I remember being devastated, and it's just like, yeah,

480
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: it doesn't always go your way, but like there's something

481
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 3: else great around the corner, and I'm like, I'm glad

482
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Speaker 3: it didn't work out, but.

483
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Speaker 1: Like, and I feel like a lot of things did

484
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Speaker 1: happen well for you over the last like yeah, you know,

485
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Speaker 1: really well, amazing, really well.

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, with new clients, really well, clients that are crushing

487
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Speaker 2: out with Like isn't that funny in our business? Though?

488
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Speaker 3: Because you still are like I mean, you're still want it,

489
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Speaker 3: which is I think great, like I still have that

490
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Speaker 3: fire in me.

491
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Speaker 2: Well, by the way, when you don't is when you

492
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Speaker 2: need to pause. And that's correct. When I did pause

493
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Speaker 2: from it, because yeah, I cool, you.

494
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Speaker 3: Were in a fucking shit storm, you know what I mean,

495
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Speaker 3: like us weekly when it was like the most insane,

496
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Speaker 3: like you.

497
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Speaker 1: You like so much, so much, yeah, so much, and

498
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Speaker 1: also but also like created an industry, so thank you.

499
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean thank you and mentioned you all the

500
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Speaker 3: time sincerely, we wouldn't.

501
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: And listen, I wouldn't have known what to do. But

502
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: here's the thing I've taken.

503
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Speaker 1: Like, I think it's been about a seven year pause

504
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: from styling, and only this year did I realize, Okay,

505
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Speaker 1: I'm starting to remember why I lived and died for

506
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: it again. But I can do one or two people

507
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Speaker 1: like maybe you know, but like because it just started,

508
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: the industry changed a lot, and I think the politics

509
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Speaker 1: and the systems and the it got a little narley

510
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Speaker 1: for a minute. And listen, unlike you, because you have

511
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Speaker 1: incredible people on your team. I could not find incredible team.

512
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Speaker 1: I really struggle that.

513
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Speaker 2: So maybe if I do start styling, and then I'm

514
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Speaker 2: just going to have you hire my team. Okay, sure,

515
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: I'm great at that. Apparently I'm not super Still.

516
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: I'm really good at my team team, but styling for

517
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Speaker 1: whatever reason not so yeah, I'll come to you on that.

518
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: Okay. So then what happens?

519
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: So you're obviously this like superstar stylist and like world domination.

520
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: I think you're twenty years younger than you.

521
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: Are, all these great awards, all this great recognition, and

522
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Speaker 1: then you start doing. First of all, you're very loud

523
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: on social media, and you're very principled, and you're very

524
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Speaker 1: politically active and very not shy about your belief which

525
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Speaker 1: I love, which I love, and I've I've tried to

526
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: become louder over the last probably three years you have

527
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Speaker 1: and I think it's amazing.

528
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Speaker 2: I love you too, I've caught me Listen.

529
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Speaker 1: I think at some point, if you don't say something,

530
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Speaker 1: then you're complacent.

531
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Speaker 2: Right now, one hundred percent, I believe that, right.

532
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Speaker 3: I remember that night we met and my speech because

533
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Speaker 3: I got like the voice of and it was really

534
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Speaker 3: before and I don't care to say that I started it,

535
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Speaker 3: because I certainly did not, But I remember in my

536
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 3: speech I said, no one in this room will lose

537
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Speaker 3: anything by speaking up. Yeah, but no one at the

538
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: time had yes. I remember Roger was like great speech.

539
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh thank you. But I think it's we just

540
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 2: don't have it. It's fucking wild out there.

541
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Speaker 1: It's why the world is freaking mess. It's our country

542
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: is insane, Like we should all be honest.

543
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: The fact that we're not all walking on strike for

544
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: gun safety is insane to me. Of course, I understand

545
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: that's the complicity and like the complexities of things, but

546
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Speaker 3: like that's just who I am.

547
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Speaker 2: But I was like that as a kid. That's who.

548
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: Like I remember my brothers were.

549
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Speaker 3: Like, we have a cabin on a lake and it's

550
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: it's not fancy, it's like rough in Canada. But they

551
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: were like shooting baby frogs with their beaby guns in

552
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Speaker 3: the water. So I jumped in the water and I

553
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 3: treaded water for like three hours so that they.

554
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Speaker 2: Couldn't shoot anything. I mean, I'm surprised I didn't shoot me,

555
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: to be completely honest. And it's a baby people. This

556
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: is not anything serious. But like I have, like I've

557
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: just never been afraid of it.

558
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Speaker 3: And I remember an agent who you know, we both know,

559
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: said to me, you better stop, you know, kind of

560
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: close your mouth shut a bit, and I said, just

561
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Speaker 3: you wait, like, yeah, no fucking way.

562
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

563
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Speaker 1: Well, I was selling clothes at the time when all

564
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: this sort of hot mess of this country started to

565
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: come out, and a lot of customers were in places

566
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Speaker 1: that don't share my same beliefs, and so a lot

567
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: of people at different positions were like, just stay quiet.

568
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: And then after a while I was like, nope, nope, nope, nope,

569
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Speaker 1: because then then I agree, right then I agree, And

570
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Speaker 1: so I think for me, it was just sort of

571
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: like there's a responsibility and also like a burning in

572
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: my soul to just scream, right, So I think all of.

573
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: That, Okay, So then what happened?

574
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: So then you're like, okay, I want to start multiple

575
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: different parts of my brand in my business, right, because

576
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: then you're like, okay, I need more. I need to

577
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: not only style like you know, twenty amazing clients and

578
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: work my ass off and have the student people, but

579
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: like now I want more.

580
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: So what happens?

581
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I also thought of it as like you know,

582
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Speaker 6: longevity and how can I provide for my family or

583
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 6: like multiple revenue streams, But also I also just thought

584
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 6: it would be fun.

585
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know we in the era that you and

586
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: I kind of came up with, like you first and

587
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 3: me a little bit behind you.

588
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: You know, we got treated as wardrobe. Yeah, oh yeah,

589
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: here's your direction. And the admin always men would be

590
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: making the decisions. You know, you'd be on a beauty campaign, they'd.

591
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: Be like, well, blad telling you how a woman would feel,

592
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: or a perfume camping, and I would just think, I

593
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: just think you guys are bozos.

594
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: And some of them were amazing, and you could have

595
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: amazing creatives, But I thought, why are we siloed into

596
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: such a limited space?

597
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: Why like why wouldn't I design T shirts? Why wouldn't

598
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: I have these other ideas? Like I can not that

599
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: I am saying I'm some creative director.

600
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm not, but I think that there was opportunities to

601
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 2: do so many more things and we kind of had

602
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: the platform to do it right like you did it.

603
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 3: Yep, you're you need to bring back your line like

604
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: deal suits were so good?

605
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sarah Foster. Every day, where's the suits?

606
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: The good news is I'm still wearing them all the

607
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: time because I love them.

608
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 2: I placed I placed it close all the time.

609
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: I love I love so much, so I just think

610
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: about that someday, busy to day. It just has to

611
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: be in a better, better partnership, if that makes sense.

612
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. Yeah yeah yeah you could do like

613
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: a little more high end, we'd.

614
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: But you're so But yeah, I think that's what it was.

615
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: I was like, I wanted to.

616
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: Flex like a little more.

617
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Speaker 3: And I think maybe that's because I was like underachiever

618
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 3: as well as a kid.

619
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Speaker 2: I'm like, are you okay? And what what part is

620
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: the underachiever? What are you know? As a kid? I was.

621
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Speaker 3: My parents are think I'm a marvel. They're like, wow,

622
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: you were like so so much for our little stoner

623
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: I was.

624
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, who wanted to be a student. My kids

625
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: are my heroes right now, these right a kids, like

626
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: where did you come from?

627
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: Mommy's mind falls after me.

628
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, my husband was like that straight a student really well.

629
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Speaker 2: And he's creative to that, which is interesting.

630
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but he was like a straight a art

631
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: center student like of.

632
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: Course whatever, of course whatever. But you know, I just

633
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: thought it.

634
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: Would be like fun and and I think, like, you know,

635
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: besides you, I kind of was the first like the

636
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: one who followed of like having brand partnerships and having.

637
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: Collapse and ex Carla yeah, Levi's.

638
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: For Levi's, it was like the Haynes and then Levis

639
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: Express and the Eddie Bauer and like I don't even

640
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: know what the hell I did. But like also like

641
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: stylists are pretty unique and that we understand what's missing

642
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: from the market right of course, and we touch every

643
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: when brands, which is everything right, Like we know we're

644
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: merchandisers in a way we can go into a store

645
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: and be like, you know, what's really missing is this?

646
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: So I love getting to do that side of things

647
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: consulting now and we're working with brands and but ultimately

648
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: I'm like you like for me, my rock stars are

649
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: like the peer Paula and Nikola Geskier's the friends of boys,

650
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: I mean, and to get to have like their clothes

651
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: come to my office or to work on a dress

652
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: with them. Watching the Rachel Zoho when you were like

653
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: with that dress you put on Cameron Diaz for the

654
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: Channel Blue, Everybody's mind that hears like a loose sight

655
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: heel and a freaking short dress to the globes, Like

656
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: come on, that's like one of the most iconic globe looks.

657
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: Ever and but how you talked about you got to

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Speaker 2: And for me, all I want to.

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Speaker 3: Do is bring their vision to life. So you know,

681
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: so sometimes it's fun to bring our visions to life.

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Speaker 3: But for me, I have so such deep respect for

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Speaker 3: the designers and one and to make them happy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a thrill. So for me, it's always

685
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: still a thrill.

686
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, and that should always be your

688
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Speaker 1: reminder that that's why you're doing it, like meaning, that's

689
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Speaker 1: what wakes you up.

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00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: And I think that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like that fire, that obsession with that moment and

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Speaker 1: like they walk out the door and they walk onto

693
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Speaker 1: the carpet and you're like.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah on your phone.

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Speaker 3: The best is when other stylists are like ding dinging,

696
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Speaker 3: I love it, you know.

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Speaker 1: I was just doing that with Sam, who I love

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Speaker 1: and she's in Canda, sweetest girl. You know, I started there.

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Speaker 1: She was the only stylist that was nice to me.

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Speaker 1: Her and Elizabeth Stewart were nice to me, and everyone

701
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Speaker 1: else was really mean.

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Speaker 3: I cried and Andrea, So there's only room to be

703
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 3: There's just just not and it's all changing so much too,

704
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: Like you look at the carpet sometimes and you think,

705
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Speaker 3: what are we doing this for?

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00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: Like where's the meaning?

707
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: I still love it, but like you know, with streamers

708
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: and the saturation level of event, then yeah, we could

709
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Speaker 3: reclaim a little magic.

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00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how other but I think that's why

712
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: you're diversifying for that reason. Yeah, so they can keep

713
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: doing what you love and keep touching other things. So

714
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: you keep it bit new and you keep it interesting,

715
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: you keep your creative sort of flow going because that's

716
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: very important, especially for creative people, because if not.

717
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you start to get really pissed off

718
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 2: about things. You know what I mean. Listen when you're

719
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: getting a little pissed off about it, too pissed off

720
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 2: about it, I mean, then you know it's time, right.

721
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: No, it's true, it's true. But I will say I

722
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: think that you're very inspiring for so many reasons. And

723
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: I think that your your loud voice is appreciated I

724
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: think by a lot of people. And I you know,

725
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: and I think and I also think, you know, it's

726
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: funny like your personal style, like for anyone who doesn't

727
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: know what Carla looks like she's this very like if

728
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: you know reality bites and one on a Ryder.

729
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: That's her total vibe. And she's so cute.

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Speaker 1: She's a little pixie with this Canadian accent about oh

731
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: my god, which I love.

732
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Speaker 2: But okay, so you're also I think what we need

733
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: to really mention here is that you're also a mother

734
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Speaker 2: of a teenager.

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Speaker 3: I am. I don't do it people, right, trap, No,

736
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Speaker 3: you have the sweetest boys. I mean, my kid's amazing,

737
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Speaker 3: not sweet. I look at you and I think, oh,

738
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Speaker 3: look at those sweet angels.

739
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're also nine and twelve. They're nine and twelve.

740
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Speaker 2: They're going to be sweet forever. I hope, I can tell.

741
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: I hope so, I mean, I hope so. But listen,

742
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: I think this working mom thing to me is the

743
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Speaker 1: hardest job out there.

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Speaker 3: You know.

745
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: I just do because I think there's a pull and

746
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: I think theause it is they need you. Of course,

747
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: you know, being a child is the one thing. My

748
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: husband was like, you know, we need a little more gift,

749
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: and I was like, when did you give to your

750
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: or single mom? You didn't exact childhood.

751
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: Is like when you get to be an asshole with

752
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: abandon and you're parents still have to love.

753
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: You like you don't have a choice, and your heart

754
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: won't let you have a choice. Right. I can never

755
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: in my kids be an addict, tom Me.

756
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: I could still not never just want to gobble them up,

757
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: of course, because I do.

758
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Speaker 2: It's crazy. Wait, it's crazy. How old? How old is

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00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: he now? He is seventeen? Oh my god, God, that's wild,

760
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: that's wild.

761
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, and I also want to point out something that

763
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Speaker 1: I think is actually very important because while you're building

764
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Speaker 1: your career at its most pinnacle, challenging times of building,

765
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: also married to a creative And that is also something

766
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: I want to mention because when I was starting out,

767
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: it was sort of the whole like New York thing,

768
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: like twenty five, I went freelance. Right again, not a

769
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Speaker 1: great assistant. So I went freelance at twenty five and

770
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Roger was an investment banker. So we basically didn't see

771
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: each other for like five years because he was working

772
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: twenty four seven. I was making my editor job seventeen

773
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: thou five hundred dollars a year.

774
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: Just you know, remember when editorials paid one seventy five

775
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I do. Actually we had to BEG.

776
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: We did to BEG for two hundred and I ended

777
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: up negative because you had to pay for all the

778
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: messengers and stuff. So I think I want to touch

779
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: on that because I had my children later in life,

780
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: I had already been doing my career. I think like

781
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: fifteen years Roger and I were together eighteen years before

782
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: we had kids.

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00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

784
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: So but I always say, in hindsight, like how would

785
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: I have ever done that while built? Because I was

786
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: working literally twenty hours a day, flying all the world,

787
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: like doing the music videos, and.

788
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: You you would enough by the way, Yeah, I don't know.

789
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: I might have been not building my career as well,

790
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: or like maybe even an absent mom, Like I don't know,

791
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: So how did you do this?

792
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: Did you take him everywhere with you? How did you?

793
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: I did it?

794
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 3: To be and listen, I'll give you some pretty heartbreaking news,

795
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: like I know that I missed on a lot for

796
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: my career, which is it's hard to say and it's

797
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: a hard pill to swallow, and I don't think it's

798
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: like I mean, it is what it is. Like, I'm

799
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: not saying it for any sort of sympathy, but like

800
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: there are pivotal years that I need it to be

801
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 3: there and I wasn't, and you know, like a little

802
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: more of a bad story about my kid, and he's

803
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: trends and he's like.

804
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot that goes with it.

805
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: You know. Also I didn't come up when there was

806
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: like mummy blogs or in social media. Was not happening

807
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: when I was like the resource I was like in

808
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: my thirties, but like somehow, I mean, it just happened.

809
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: I didn't even think I'd get pregnant. It wasn't a thing,

810
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: and we just kind of like I was probably a

811
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: little like a lax about it. But I will say

812
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: I'm so fucking grateful to my husband because he we

813
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 3: switched roles, right, we switched traditional roles, and Matthew really

814
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: raised Clem and gave up so much of his own

815
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 3: creativity and in his goals to allow me to like

816
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: super sore. But if I had to look at it,

817
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: and I say to moms that, because we all are

818
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 3: moms now, I say to them, with you younger kids,

819
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: like you got to carve out that like you're in

820
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: that time right now, You've done it perfectly right.

821
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: You had like the pinnacle of the pinnacle. Then you

822
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: had your babies and then you've got to have them

823
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: in like the most important time of their life. And

824
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: I didn't get to do that. So I'm gonna like,

825
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: you know, but let's.

826
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: Write a book about Yeah, I don't actually have regrets

827
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: because I've built a fucking amazing career and I'm so

828
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: proud of it.

829
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I have payings of hurt over it, of course,

830
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: as we do. So I don't understand. Yeah, yeah, it's

831
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh man, listen, damn it. We don't

832
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: write this right. We don't write it.

833
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: We don't script totally right, we don't like and I

834
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: think if you do, no life follows script right.

835
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: It just doesn't. It doesn't work like that. And I

836
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: think that, Listen.

837
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: I know a lot of moms right now, creative moms

838
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: in our field who are there busting their fucking asses

839
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: and their husbands are home.

840
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: It works, and it works, and it works, and I

841
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: need their mom. I hate to say it, like you

842
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 4: need a mom, I mean not an a Hey, listen,

843
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: that sounds so privileged.

844
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I know it means like if you

845
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like there's like Clement, I

846
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: have like such an incredible bond but Clement Matthew are

847
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: bestie's like, you know, I don't have they I get it.

848
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: I get it.

849
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: So it's just a different and it's probably not the

850
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: narrative we were taught to write where it's like that

851
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: it would be ass out doing it.

852
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: Of course, that's all okay.

853
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: So you have a seventeen year old, they have a

854
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: nine year old, like what, So like I could say,

855
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just shows a young mom.

856
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: Of course, right exactly. There's trade offs, right, and I

857
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: think there's all the trade offs, so I could do

858
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: it differently. Oh, I would try to balance a little

859
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 2: more though, but it's our business doesn't allow it doesn't.

860
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: And I do say that.

861
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I think, and I really stopped

862
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: was when I had my second child and I realized

863
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: that I was sending team out to do the job

864
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: and that did not work.

865
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Speaker 2: For me, and it didn't work in our clients. It

866
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: doesn't work. So you really didn't have a choice in

867
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: that moment.

868
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: And I think you should really know that that you

869
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: didn't have a choice, and you should go to sleep

870
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Speaker 1: at night knowing that you didn't have a choice because

871
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: you were providing food and you were you were told

872
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: you what now?

873
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: Will set up clem later?

874
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: Sure, And so I think and I do think that

875
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: some of the hardest working people I know come from

876
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: badass moms who work their ass off and very hard

877
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: when the kids are little, and then they really grow

878
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: up and go, God, fucking I get it, like I

879
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: get why she did this, and I'm so great, Well

880
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: it will it will not at seventeen, at twenty three, again,

881
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: you've built something incredible. You should be really fucking proud

882
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: of yourself. You do a lot in the fucking world,

883
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: not just for fashion, and you know, and.

884
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: I think you should. I think you should.

885
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't.

886
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't regret it, which is like kind of an

887
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: interesting thing to have too.

888
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: But it's like, yeah, it's just the pangs, right, But

889
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 3: I did you know what, I like to remind Cleama

890
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: from like one to three, that kid was on like

891
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 3: when the flights were free.

892
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: He was on all the New York jobs. So I'm like,

893
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: I didn't ditch you. You just don't remember.

894
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: By the way, they don't remember anything till after three. Okay,

895
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: So wait, last thing, So can you tell me about

896
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: the period company? Because I really do want to understand it,

897
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: and it is quite significant in our world.

898
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: So please please, it's a major thing.

899
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: So I actually started it because Clem, even though he's

900
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: a boy, got his period early, okay, and it was

901
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: like ten years old, and this little cute meathead didn't

902
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: know like a at the time, I didn't know Clem

903
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: was at transit.

904
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: Okay, and so there was all this, but he did.

905
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: So there was all this, just this trauma around getting

906
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: their period, okay, But there was also logistically, like you're

907
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: you're asking a ten year old to change pads at

908
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 3: a school. Sure, And at the exact same time, I

909
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: was like kind of grossed out with the amount of

910
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: period waste I was creating, like pads and tampons for

911
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: everyone watching never decomposed, so the first one your grandmother's

912
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: ever used is still on the planet.

913
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: So it was kind of just like the.

914
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: Light bulb went off the head because there was period underwear,

915
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: because I thought that was going to be the best

916
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: bet for Clem, but it was super cost prohibited, and

917
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: I didn't find it to be a really great product,

918
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: Like it was good for a backup if your tampon leaked, okay, great,

919
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: you catch it in your underwear because Tampont's leak all

920
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 3: the time. So I just kind of had a moment

921
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: and I had done understood manufacturing because of my t

922
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: shirt line, and I thought, I'm going to make the

923
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: most absorbent and affordable period underwear in the world, and

924
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to make it so that every kid and

925
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: every mom and every dad or anybody with a period

926
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 3: could choose this way to period, because it.

927
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: Was just it just is better. You know, I'm not

928
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: I'm biased, but like I find it, it's a much

929
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: more enjoyable way to have your period.

930
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: And so I have an amazing co founder. It's this woman,

931
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: Sasha Markov, who's an incredible CMO, and she brought impossible

932
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: burgers to life, like she worked at Mother London for

933
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: many many years, and she I told her the idea

934
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: and that I was going to do, and she said, well,

935
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: the most important thing of having a great product is

936
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: having a great brand. So let's do it together. And

937
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: right that was like pure serendipity because we had met

938
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: each other many years later before or rather, and so

939
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: we've come together and our main goal was like, wow,

940
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: periods have kind of mean looked upon, is really shitty.

941
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: Our whole lives. We've been told they're shitty.

942
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: Right, We've been told globally that they're a stigma and

943
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: that they're awful, and they can be.

944
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like what if we.

945
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: Were told something completely different, and what if boys were

946
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: told something completely different? What a different maybe world we'd have? Right,

947
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: So we started the company. We called it period blah

948
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 3: blah blah blahlah. We launched immediately. On day one, someone

949
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: sends me this letter about like period poverty, which of

950
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: course I knew. Period poverty is when people don't have

951
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: access to care, like one in four Americans, which is

952
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: that's so insane to me, it's mental. But we quickly

953
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: we thought we were a sustainability company, which we were,

954
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: but then we realized, oh my god, we're not. We're

955
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: a mission driven company and our mission is to eradicate

956
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: sustainably eradicate period poverty. So we work with organizations, so

957
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: we have a direct consumer business. We just launched nationwide

958
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: in Walmart, which is amazing, Like on the capitalist side

959
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: of it, unbelievable, going great, But the most important side

960
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: of it is that we work with orgs all over

961
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: the world, whether they're governments or ntos or just private

962
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: foundations of people who want to make impact. All these

963
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: programs were about to launch this incredible program in Kauhi

964
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 3: where every single person in Kauhai, regardless if they're you

965
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: or me with a bank account or someone at the

966
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 3: poverty line, working poor, everybody five pairs of underwear and

967
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: a pack of pads to see what happens in a

968
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 3: space when you imagine that nobody goes without and everybody

969
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: has a democratized form of care.

970
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: So we're going to see what happens. We're going back

971
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 2: into Kenya. Yeah, it's so like, it's so funny.

972
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: It gives me the same feeling is when I get

973
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: an amazing couture dress, Yeah, which is like I smell

974
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: the dichotomy and I'm like wow that. But it's just

975
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: my life's purpose is actually to do this work, and

976
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: everything's led to this moment. You know, I had an

977
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 3: amazing platform because I had amazing clients and friends who

978
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: elevated our brand in ways brands couldn't buy. Right, they

979
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: can't buy the impact we've had already just with social and.

980
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: We do an amazing thing where we like team up

981
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: with friends or celebrities and we do match days where

982
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: they'll say, hey, friends, the period Company's going to match

983
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: everything that says Rachel today, and then we do a

984
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: big donation. So we just kind of work relentlessly to

985
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: show the world.

986
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: That it can be done, because our huge goal is,

987
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: like listen, we want someone to come in and we

988
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 3: want governments to come in and say, okay, we see

989
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: what you did here.

990
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: We saw the.

991
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: If they'll admit that we actually have it, you know what,

992
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: it's crazy.

993
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: I mean, a we could go a girl got killed

994
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 3: by her brother for having her period in India.

995
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: I know, sorry I should give you that trigger warning.

996
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's like, because you don't even know

997
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: what a period, Lily thought diverse.

998
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: It's the craziest thing.

999
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: It's like baby snippers. They thought, you know, so so

1000
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: much education as needed, and it's like, but if you

1001
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 3: just start, you can change things. And maybe we're in

1002
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: a different world now where we can't rely on government

1003
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 3: to help it changes. And maybe it's just great citizens,

1004
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: but I think you can combine everybody like citizens, governments

1005
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: and businesses and billionaires. Come on, come on buying, you know,

1006
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: buy us undred million pairs of period of time.

1007
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: It's true, it's true, and I think, but it's funny,

1008
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: because funny, sort of ironic, because it's sort of you

1009
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: think about this concept, You're like, how do I change

1010
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: the world with this?

1011
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: How do I impact the entire freaking world with this?

1012
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 5: Right?

1013
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: And it seems overwhelming, but I think that.

1014
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: You're already scratching the service in a really, really big way,

1015
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: and in a very short time.

1016
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: I mean, this is when did you launches two and

1017
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: a half years? Yeah?

1018
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: God, that's incredible, Yeah, amazing, amazing, And even getting people

1019
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: to have the conversation is helpful.

1020
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: Listen, we have signs in Walmart that's a period on

1021
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 3: them bless less Lass, Thank you Walmart, thank you Allmart.

1022
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, adore you. I adore you. I love

1023
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: your passion. You're so talented. I love all the.

1024
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: Girls that you work with and the boys and the

1025
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: boys you work with boys too, a lot of them,

1026
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: justin Bieber Casual and Hayley that one casual.

1027
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: Yes, but I love all that you're doing. I love

1028
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: I really do. I love your voice. I love your

1029
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: loud voice. I know it's loud, but I love because

1030
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: I've bone it down. But no, don't actually really don't know.

1031
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 3: I can't because you know what, so many people who've

1032
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: really had their had their rights squandered over years, who

1033
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: don't look like us. Right, we're white women, So we

1034
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: have to run out of privilege in our lifetime. We

1035
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: have to spend the privilege we have until the day

1036
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: we die, because we're not allowed to get tired.

1037
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: They're like, Oh, I'm tired. I don't want to do anything.

1038
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: Tell that to the civil rights fighters, the freedom fighters,

1039
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: It's true who've.

1040
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: Come before us like we don't get to And that's

1041
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: just the way it is, period. And I love you

1042
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: more for it. So thank you, my love. I love

1043
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: having you. I I could talk to you.

1044
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: I could do a part two and a part three,

1045
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: but you know I am going to let you whenever life.

1046
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: But thanks for having me, right, Jel, I had such

1047
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: a pleasure where you have such a great I love

1048
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: you keep doing your world domination and loving it.

1049
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: It's that time in the show and I answer to

1050
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: listener questions, so let's see what we have today. Hi.

1051
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: I love this podcast, and I have a question for

1052
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: Rachel that I'd love to hear her answer. I'm a

1053
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: mommy to two beautiful children, there's seven and three. My

1054
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: first love was fashion design, but I was at a

1055
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: point with my brand where it made more sense to

1056
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: take a break and be with my kids. Now that

1057
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: my youngest is three, I'm dreaming of getting my brand

1058
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: going again at thirty four years old. Do you think

1059
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: that ship has sailed? Am I crazy to try and

1060
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: start back right now? If not, do you have any

1061
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: advice for someone trying to come back from taking a

1062
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: break after having kids?

1063
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 2: Thanks Rachel.

1064
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So, first of all, no, it's never too late

1065
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: to come back or start over or continue what you started.

1066
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: I do think you have to first take a look

1067
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: at the business that you're in and what you're going

1068
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: back to, because chances are it has changed a lot.

1069
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't know a business that hasn't evolved and changed

1070
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: substantially over the last five to seven years, So I

1071
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: would definitely really think about that before you go headfirst

1072
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: into it. But absolutely thirty four is the perfect age,

1073
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: and I would argue to say that you are probably

1074
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: more focused, mature, and probably have the right perspectives on things,

1075
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: including business at thirty four than you were at twenty six.

1076
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: And you know, I really find, especially with women, that

1077
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: the older we get, I really think the better we

1078
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: are mentally, physically, emotionally, all the things. So no, and

1079
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: I think that I would say, depending on what you do,

1080
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: I would say, really study it and really see what

1081
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 1: the market is looking for and also what the market

1082
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: is missing, and really consider that and start small, Start small,

1083
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: and don't get yourself into a big overwhelming situation with

1084
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: inventory and things like that.

1085
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: So look, Okay, next question.

1086
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: I am going to be a mother of the groom

1087
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: in February twenty twenty four. That's very exciting. Any suggestions

1088
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: where to look for a dress gown? I want modern,

1089
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: up to date style. Also, any ideas what will be

1090
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Speaker 1: in for next February, Well, I would say listen. I

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Speaker 1: believe there's so many variables to consider with a wedding.

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Speaker 1: I got married in February in New York City and

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Speaker 1: it was black tie, and it was at night, and

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Speaker 1: it was at the Rainbow Room. So my bridesmaids all

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Speaker 1: wore black velvet and my mother wore gold, and I

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Speaker 1: believe Roger's mother also wore like white and gold. I

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Speaker 1: think when you're in February, depending on is it black tie,

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Speaker 1: where is it is it in a way wedding? Is

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Speaker 1: it a city wedding. Are you in cold weather, are

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Speaker 1: you in warm weather? All those things sort of weigh

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Speaker 1: into it. But I would say color wise, I love

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Speaker 1: navy in February. I love gold all year round. I

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Speaker 1: do think you can wear black as the mother of

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Speaker 1: the groom, but navy is a better option, or a

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Speaker 1: metallic I think is really chic.

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Speaker 2: I love a sleeve.

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Speaker 1: I love an off the shoulder because I think the

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Speaker 1: especially at a wedding. I do love Monique Lulier for

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Speaker 1: everything wedding. I love your wing. It depends really on

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Speaker 1: what your budget is because there's really so many options

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Speaker 1: but obviously that's a lot more work. Show me your

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Speaker 1: MUMU does amazing sort of bridle in every size, shape, color.

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Speaker 1: They do a huge wedding business and very reasonable, so

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Speaker 1: I think that's also a great one. But that would

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Speaker 1: be my suggestion, So good luck. Okay, everybody, don't forget

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