1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Hey guys, you're about to listen to the Tailgate, the 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: show where each week we bring on some of the 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: best comedians in America to talk about the Vikings upcoming opponent. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: And as always, it's brought to you by Cambria, Family 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: owned and American maid. Cambria is proud to be the 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: official countertop of the Minnesota Vikings. Learn more and get 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: inspired at Cambria USA dot com. And hey, if you 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: love the show, subscribe, we would really appreciate its. Hey, everybody, 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: welcome into the Tailgate, brought to you by Cambria. I'm 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: your host Siam AND's enjoined by producer Jay Nelson, and 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: your Minnesota Vikings are six and one heading to Washington 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: to take on the Commanders and helping us breakdown the 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Commanders is not only a very funny man, but someone 14 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: who I had in mind when I came up with 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: this show. This whole show is supposed to be comedians. 16 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: When you're a comic who finds another comic that loves 17 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: sports and you can sit in the green room and 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: just not beat you can just talk sports, just have 19 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: fun and be people. That is what I came up 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: doing at ACME Comedy Club in Minneapolis with mister John Conroy. John, 21 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Oh it's good to be here. 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk a little Vikings Man six 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: and one. I'm gonna have to start rooms for you. 24 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: You're setting up for a playoff run against all my 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: division rivals. So so I say that we came up 26 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: doing that together in Minneapolis. But you you, as a 27 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: young adult, moved to Minneapolis. You were pursuing comedy there. 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: You're originally from out at the you know, out DC Way, brother, 29 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: And last week I had Reagan and chat on and 30 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: we told like stories of our first time ever going 31 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: to a game. I need you to tell people you 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: have a very unique my first ever game story. And 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't mean to set you up like that, but 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: you have to tell people it's true. So when I 35 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: was like seven years old, my father had tickets, but 36 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: it was they were given to, you know, his best 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: clients and stuff. But then that strike season happened and 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: they couldn't get anyone to go to the games, and 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: like people were literally turning in their season tickets. And 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: my dad was like, well, I guess I'll take my 41 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: young son to the strike game. He'll see the replacement players. 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: And when we were at one of those replacement games, 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: which they went three and oz while they were the 44 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: placement players, and they actually beat the picket crossing Dallas 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys who were it was like all the star Dallas 46 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: players were back and like they're scrubs beat with Gibbs 47 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: their scrubs and Gibbs beat Dallas. And I remember telling 48 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: my dad, like, they're going to the super Bowl, and 49 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: my dad was like it was the age of like 50 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: the Montana forty nine ers and the like the you know, 51 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: it was eighty eight, so the Bears still had a 52 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: really great defense. They're not going to the super Bowl. 53 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: If they go to the super Bowl, will you take me? 54 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: And he was like sure, yeah, no problem, Like just 55 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: there's no chance. They were terrible. They really were not 56 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: expected to be very good. They had no quarterback, and 57 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean even through they made it with their backups 58 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the year. Yeah, it was a wild 59 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: And I just watched the thirty for thirty on that 60 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: year of the scab where like Gibbs basically told all 61 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: the redskin players to stay like with Union solidarity, and 62 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: then all these other teams broke ranks and it really 63 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: like affected the unity of a lot of the teams, 64 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: they said, because they were like playing like the star 65 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: players against the scrubs and everything else. And somehow the 66 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Redskins going through the whole thing like gives credited the 67 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: whole thing for that run. So you're three, and oh, 68 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: you make this crazy deal with your dad that he's 69 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: like you, there's never a chance that this is gonna happen, 70 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: and then boom boom, domino starts falling. This is a 71 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: good team, right we You know, we beat the forty 72 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: nine Ers that year in the playoffs, which was a 73 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: huge help to you guys. My mom was a forty 74 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: nine Ers fan and he was all year long. He 75 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: was like, no, the forty nine ers are bar by 76 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: far the best team. If it comes down to it, 77 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are gonna kill the red the 78 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: Redskins at the time, they're gonna save our checkbook. Don't worry, honey, 79 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have to pay this. And then you 80 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: all beat the Vikings. Anthony Carter had I think what 81 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: might still be a playoff record, incredible game, and my 82 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: mom was like, well, are the Vikings better than everybody? 83 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: And he was like, I think we got about a 84 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: fift fifty shot that we're gonna buy tickets, get this, 85 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: get to a super Bowl because we were at home 86 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: that next weekend. It was a defensive struggle, but I 87 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: mean we had I think Daryl Green covered Anthony Carter 88 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: for most of that game. I don't know that we 89 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: are the champion of of NFC championship losses, but it 90 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: feels like at sometime and this is just another one 91 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: on the docket. It was. You're right, it was a 92 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: defensive battle, but there was there was this moment, you know, 93 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: because I've heard my dad talk about this game where 94 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: in the first quarter the Vikings decide not to risk 95 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: a long field goal and they for a moment they 96 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: look like genius because they pin him on the two 97 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: yard line, and that the whole game was right there. 98 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: It was this ninety eight yard drive from that moment 99 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: on Doug Williams throws a touchdown pass to who cares 100 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember at all, and then and it was 101 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: just we're down seventeen ten and then Minnesota drives all 102 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: the way down at the end and it's a goal 103 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: line stand for your team. We can't, you know, we 104 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: get down to the six, we can't get in, so 105 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: you you beat us, and now he actually took you 106 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. The yeah, the In fact, the 107 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: final first down of the game, one of the strike 108 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: players caught the final pass and then they yeah. My 109 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: My mom was like, I guess you're taking him to 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: the super Bowl like we had. It was in San 111 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Diego that year, so we had family out there and 112 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: he had some ticket. It was eighty eight, so it 113 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: wasn't I mean, it's not like it is not It's 114 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: not like tickets weren't thousands of dollars. I know that, 115 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: Like the whole trip probably, but um, and we had 116 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: we stayed with relatives out there, was I mean, the 117 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: whole leading up to the Super Bowl is like, nah, 118 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: Denver is much better than us, I wouldn't you know. 119 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: And then they had that crazy thirty five point second quarter. 120 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Well dude, what was being a kid? Like I can't 121 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: even imagine being a kid going to a Super Bow 122 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: when you're in the height of like anything's possible and 123 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: you're in the stadium for the Super Bowl and you 124 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: watch your favorite team thirty five points. Can you if 125 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: I was a twelve year old Viking fan, you know, 126 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight. I think I was twelve or thirteen. 127 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: If I'd have been at the Super Bowl and they'd 128 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: have put up a thirty five in the second quarter, 129 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't think I would. There'd 130 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: be people like you have to take your son home. 131 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: He can't behave like this. It's it's wild, Like I 132 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: was thinking before this podcast started, like even like a 133 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: couple of years, like a thirty five year old Washington 134 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: Commanders fan, a guy who's seven years younger than me, 135 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: could make an reasonable argument that Kirk Cousins is the 136 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: best quarterback he's ever seen play for our team, right, 137 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, like he's that out like you know, ninety one, 138 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: it was over for us for the last thirty one 139 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: years we've been he's been Kirk Cousins the best quarterback 140 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: we've had for thirty some years. It also frustrates me 141 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: because and I'm not going to spend much time on this, 142 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: but like we're such a I shouldn't say frustrate. I'm 143 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: jealous because I think of how pathetic it is for 144 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: me to be jealous of your nearly forty year old championships. 145 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: John two of them. It happened again in ninety one. 146 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: We won in the Metrodome. I know, I know. That's 147 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: what I'm getting. Yeah, that's what I'm getting. And in 148 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: between there you're a Notre Dame fan, and Notre Dame 149 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: wins a title. So as a young kid, you get 150 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: to go to a super Bowl, then you get to 151 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: watch Notre Dame win a title, and then you get 152 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: to win another super Bowl. In my building, I'm very 153 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: jealous of your sports childhood. I remember my favorite part 154 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: of living in Minnesota was always asking people, you know, 155 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: the only team to ever win a super Bowl in Minnesota, 156 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: it's the Washington Redskins. Yeah. Great, Yeah, that's a really 157 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: great jay. Should we cut the show? Cut the show 158 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: shows over, have a nice forever, John's It's funny the 159 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: two teams aren't super acted, you know when you because 160 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: there is that eighty eight championship game, and then it's 161 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: the only thing for me as a fan, because I'm 162 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: a little younger than you, The only thing that comes 163 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: to mind for me is Robert Griffin the Third and 164 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: he comes to mind for me. It's a two part 165 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: situation because in two thousand and eleven and I don't 166 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: like your field. I don't like your field conditions. There 167 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: are a couple of fields that if my team never 168 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: played on them, I would be happy about that. Soldier 169 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: Field is one of them. In your field is one 170 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: of them. And AP tears his acl. We have two wins, 171 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: you have, I believe, two wins. At that point end 172 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: of the season, it is just ugly, and somehow the 173 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: Vikings muscle up and beat you. And at the time 174 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: no one knew that. You know, it was Andrew Luck 175 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: and RG three. There were these two unbelievable prospects, and 176 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: I think there were so many fans that were like, 177 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: why why would you hand them RG three? And I 178 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: know players and coaches can't have that mentality, but it 179 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: was infuriating. And then the next year, the next year, 180 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: the Vikings represented, in my opinion, the height of RG 181 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: three mania. When his rookie season was taking off. That 182 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: was the play. He looked like the fastest player in 183 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: the league. That's what I'm saying. He looked like vic 184 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson or Tyree Kill the fastest player in 185 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: the league. No doubt that. When everybody talks about that 186 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: Michael Vick play in overtime where he ran you know, 187 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: split the defense, guys running into each other, scores of touchdowns, throws, 188 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: the ball runs off the field. That's one of the 189 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: iconic plays in NFL history in Lambeau. Right, Vic torched 190 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: the Packers in Lambeau, but that was against the Vikings. 191 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: So everybody remembers that Vikings run. But I'm with you 192 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: when RG three that sees and when he got the 193 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: outside and he was coasting up the sideline running away 194 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: from defensive backs, a quarterback running away. I remember thinking, 195 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm so glad we won last year, like just furious 196 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: and that team. Man, he they had the Seahawks, the 197 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: defending champion Seahawks, on the ropes, and that field finally 198 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: tore his knee. Yeah that was it for him. Yeah 199 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: that's uh so what I said, I do not care 200 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: for the field part of John. What I have to 201 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: do for this show, I you know, not have to do. 202 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: But I like to be well researched. I like to 203 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: spend a little time. There are three moments that and 204 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't mean to like, this isn't my thing. I'm 205 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: not one of those fans that celebrates other fans's misery. 206 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: But there are three moments in commander's history that I 207 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: have to talk about commanders, Washington whatever, like old history. 208 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: One of these doesn't matter to you. It's just fascinating. 209 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: In the nineteen forty NFL Championship game, you guys lost 210 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: seventy three zero to the Bears. It's the worst loss 211 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: of all time, worst loss in NFL history. Through eight 212 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: interceptions committed, eight penalties allowed, five hundred nineteen yards. And 213 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: it could have been worse. The Bears missed four extra 214 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: points while beating it. I suppose you missed four extra 215 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: points when you score almost a century. Well, that Washington 216 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: team beat them earlier in the year in Chicago, and 217 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: the owner talked poorly about the Bears and Hallis, so 218 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: they had reason to run it up. My father used 219 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: to tell me about that, and he was like, that's 220 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: why you don't talk after a win, ah, because you 221 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: end up losing seventy three to nothing the next time. 222 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: What a good like as a young football fan, that's 223 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: a good dad story. That's a good lesson right there. 224 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: My father was a Notre Dame fan who loved to 225 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: tell me about like the worst comeback losses they'd ever have, 226 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: So like, no matter how well the Notre Dame. Notre 227 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: Dame would be by forty and he'd be like, well, 228 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: they were up forty two nothing against USC in nineteen 229 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: sixty four and that was O. J. Simpson and he 230 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: ended up beating them fifty six forty nine. Yeah, your 231 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: dad could always turn them the moment of potential joy 232 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: into a disaster. Oh, or we would make fun of 233 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: him for being e or all the time, especially around sports. 234 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: Two thousand and nine had two incredible moments. One you 235 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: snapped Detroit's nineteen game losing streak. I remember knowing for 236 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: sure we were going to be the team that that 237 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: snapped that. It was like I had could see visions 238 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: of Calvin Johnson in the end zone that year, and 239 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't even remember who was the coach, but this 240 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: would never leave me as a fan. On a Monday 241 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: night game, you guys executed the funniest fake field goal 242 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: of all time. You had this dude, don't remember what 243 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: the guy's name was, but he could really he was 244 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: a specialty. He was the holder and he could throw 245 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: it a bit and he could run it a bit. 246 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: And that year he'd already thrown for one and ran 247 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: for one. So you guys were this big trick team 248 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: and you're lining up, you're getting thrashed by the Giants 249 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: twenty four to nothing, and you're lining up to kick 250 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: a field goal with two seconds left, just to get 251 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: some points on the board at half, and then all 252 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden there's like an audible. The normal fuel 253 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: goal set up, and then all of a sudden, there's 254 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: an audible and everybody on the line runs all the 255 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: way to the left side of the field except one guy, 256 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: the holder and the kicker, and then they motioned like 257 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: a guy behind it, so there's like a guy there 258 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: ready to catch a pass. And the stadium, John, your 259 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: stadium went bananas. They're like, yeah, here we go. We've 260 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: been waiting for this. And they snap it and all 261 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: of the Giants players just pummel the kicker. He hail 262 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: marries it like five hundred alive into the air, gets 263 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: picked off and returned the other way. And John Gruden, 264 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: who notoriously made it a point to not criticize people 265 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: because I think he wanted he knew he wanted to 266 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: coach again, lost his mind, like, well, that was the 267 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: worst thing I've ever seen. It was maybe the worst 268 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: fake play in the history of professional sports. I can't 269 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: say that one sticks with me. Thanks for not bringing 270 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: up Gus Farrot, though, that's the one that sticks with 271 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: me more than it. Do you remember how that game ended? 272 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: So he smashes his head into the wall, right, They 273 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: were losing seven nothing in the fourth quarter, and he 274 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: ran the ball into the end zone to tie the score, 275 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: and then he headbutted himself and the game ended in 276 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: a seven seven tie with him injured on the bench. 277 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: So there are worse things than losing tracks. This matchup 278 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: is really really unique because you mentioned Kirk Cousins, and 279 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Kirk Cousins here, but first you 280 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: have a guy starting for you that used to be 281 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: on our roster. Heinick was on Minnesota's roster. He was 282 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: like and John. A lot of people don't know that 283 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: he was like this lightning bolt for there were so 284 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: many fans that thought he was this unique. They were 285 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: furious he couldn't get reps. And I think it's the 286 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: way he carries himself. He was the guy in preseason 287 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: we'd show up and you're like, did you see what 288 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: he did? He's just a gamer, right, So to watch 289 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: him beat the Packers thank you so much. That was 290 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: so wonderful. But that play when he beat the Packers 291 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: on third down where they had to throw it and 292 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: he's like coasting, back pedaling off one foot throwing it 293 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: up to McLaren like I got that, Like such a 294 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: big ball throw. I mean, the dude, it's gotta be 295 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: fun even though he doesn't put up the huge number, 296 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: knowing you have a guy that every single human being 297 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: on the sideline and in the stadium is behind, because 298 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: that's it's crazy because he's not a top tier guy. 299 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: But that's what it feels like watching him. Those teammates 300 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: love him so much. He does have that far everyman 301 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: kind of People love him in a he's a he's 302 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: a he's going to throw the ball into coverage and 303 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: they're either gonna catch it and win the game or 304 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna there's gonna be an interception. He's fun to 305 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: watch in that way. There's never gonna you know, he's 306 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: not gonna put the ball four rows into the stands 307 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: on fourth down. He's not that guy. Yeah, he's gonna 308 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna take the risk even when you don't want 309 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: him to take the risks. There are guys in the 310 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: league that fascinate me that way. Uh Weirdly, Jimmy Garoppolo 311 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: is one of those guys who I think if you 312 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: asked everyone in the Niners locker room, they're like, Jimmy's 313 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: the guy. He's the guy, and that always fascinates me. 314 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: You know, Tebow had that effect in a very different 315 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: way on locker rooms. I think Gardner Minshew kind of 316 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: has that effect. Well, there are guys that have that 317 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: effect and then they come up against Belichick and it's over. Yes, right, 318 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: he just ends their career in a game by teaching 319 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: the whole league how to defend him like diva. But 320 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: then there's those guys that, for whatever reason, like they're 321 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: always like making the play at the last minute or 322 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: and guys want to fight with them. It's you know, 323 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: even when you're not the best athlete on a team, 324 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: if guys feel that you're in it with them, that's 325 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: all they care about, right, right. It's an interesting mentality 326 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: because and by the way, when you said that thing 327 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: about Belichick, I remember years ago, I mean it's probably 328 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: ten twelve years ago, the Vikings were like six and 329 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: oh you know, I might butcher, I might be close 330 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: to some factual information here. But the Vikings were like 331 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: six and oh they had some great record. They were 332 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: rolling into a Monday night game against the Patriots and 333 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: Belichick was just like, you are not a good team, 334 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: and then the season just evaporated from us. It was crazy. Yeah, 335 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, that's what happened. I mean, 336 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: that's pretty much what's happened to Jared Goff. He got 337 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: all the way to the super Bowl and Belichick figured 338 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: it out in a game and they're like now, they're like, 339 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: we trade you for anybody and hope and the stafford 340 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: ends up being a little bit better and he's the difference. 341 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's wild. What does it feel like to 342 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: be a fan of one of those guys? Because I 343 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 1: think as a football fan, you want you want one 344 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: of these five, you know, the three to five all 345 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: timers that are in the league. You want your team 346 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: to get an all time quarterback. I currently have a 347 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: different theory about quarterbacks that I'm working on that I 348 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: don't need to have a ted talk about right now. 349 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: But is it Where are you at on the Heinikey 350 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: thing with Wentz on the bench and wanting some stability 351 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: at the quarterback because he's played a lot, like the 352 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: players might be behind him. What's this? What's the fan 353 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: base vibe? Both now and kind of with a longer 354 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: looking approach. I think everybody likes Rivera a lot. I 355 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: think there's not a lot of faith in Wentz given 356 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: how last year ended and how this year began. I 357 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: think I'm optimistic. I feel like we drafted really well 358 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: in like rounds two through five for the last three 359 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: four years. So we have a really good defensive line, 360 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: which is one way you get good in the league, 361 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: have like a San Francisco type defensive line where they're 362 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: playing offense when their defenses on the field exactly or 363 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: and I don't think we're quite there yet, but there's 364 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: some pieces. I mean, Payne and Alan are really good players. 365 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: Sweats a really good player. I mean, if if Chase 366 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: Young would have come in and really pan out the way, 367 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: you know that, you know he was builed as like 368 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: the next Lawrence Taylor kind of guy. And they always 369 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: say that, and I actually watched that guy, so I 370 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: know what the difference. But but I mean they have 371 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: parts that's bananas when people say that, like even about 372 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, because when they do you he's Lawrence Taylor. 373 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: You're like, WHOA. If you're gonna say that, here's the rule. 374 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: If you're gonna call anyone Lawrence Taylor, you should have 375 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: to sit in a chair and watch a half hour 376 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: of Lawrence Taylor highlights. Guess what, Ray Lewis wouldn't even 377 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: he wouldn't even Lawrence Taylor. I he wouldn't even near 378 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor is. It's I arguably the greatest. He's in 379 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: that category for me, with Jerry Rice, maybe Jim Brown, 380 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: the couple guys who you're like, that is the singular 381 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: greatest football player to ever step on a field. There 382 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: are guys who like Swing League titles when they're really great, 383 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 1: and he was like one of those guys. And I 384 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: think even are those Redskin teams, the ones that won titles, 385 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: the best units on those teams were always the offensive line, right, 386 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: the hawks, the ones so the years that they were 387 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: really great, I mean I think in ninety one they 388 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: gave up six sex for the whole year. Yes, So 389 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: it was always like it's the guys who laid awake 390 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: at night trying to figure out a way to block 391 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: him with a lot of tight end help, I mean 392 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 1: like you like you know. Spurrier came in later and 393 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: tried blocking no one and we saw how that worked out. 394 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: Gibbs really became famous just for bringing in more offensive 395 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: linemen and tight ends that weren't going to run patterns 396 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: because he was just trying to put more guys on 397 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: the line to move Taylor out two more feet. Steve 398 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: Spurrier is one of my all time favorite hires a 399 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: number of reasons. One, I'm a big visor guy. I'm 400 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: a big visor guy guy. I love watching adult men 401 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: wear visors. It's very funny to me. Steve Spurrier all 402 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: time visor guy. He and I will also say Joe Gibbs. 403 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: Joe Gibbs, I have followed. Joe Gibbs is such an 404 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: interesting speaker. He's such an interesting personality. Hey, he looks 405 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: like he just honey, he shrunked his kids like he 406 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: is such a silly looking man to be one of 407 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: the greatest football coaches of all time. So I was 408 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: always fascinated and impressed by him. And then he goes 409 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: off and he's like, hey, now I'm I run a 410 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: NASCAR team. Like He's just he's fascinating. Steve Spurrier is 411 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: the opposite end of that. I remember him saying out 412 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: loud after watching his first opponent on film that defense 413 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: looks a little tougher than Vanderbilts. And I don't care 414 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: if he was joking that. The moment he said that, 415 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: everybody in DC had to have gone, oh no, I 416 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: think in college, everybody you play because the guy decides 417 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: whether you get to go to school the next day. 418 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: Right in the pros, like pros play with their heart 419 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: for guys they really respect, you know, right. I remember, 420 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: always remember that Jimmy Johnson thing where he's talking about 421 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: in Cowboys training camps where we would hand out five 422 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: dollars to like players who were already making millions and 423 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. It's like appeal to the competitive instinct 424 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: to the guys, the guys that I mean, what the 425 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: hardwiring behind people instead, you know, Spurrier was always like, 426 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: I'll match up my guys against your guys, and you 427 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: can't win with professionals like that. I'm gonna come in 428 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: here with my clipboard, I'm gonna draw a play and 429 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: we go out and do you. I don't think you 430 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: are Stevie. I don't think you are the the The 431 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: Vikings kind of have that going on right now. They 432 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: have a really good culture where guys were seeing exactly 433 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: what you talked about, people really really buying in, which 434 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: is I think you're right. I always think of those 435 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: old those eighties nineties or excuse me, those eighties Niners 436 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: teams that everybody talks about. They want to talk about 437 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: all the talent and the coaches Bill Walsh and Joe Montana, 438 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: Jerry Ris. No one ever talks about Eddie de Bartelow. 439 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: I know Eddie de Bartelow gotten some some legal trouble 440 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: in later years, but the big story with de Bartelow 441 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: was always like this was the guy, the first guy 442 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: to go. Every player gets their own room, we always 443 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: have the best food, everybody's treated the best. And these 444 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: guys responded that there's a story out there that that's 445 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: when Robert Kraft bought the Patriots, he went to De 446 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: Bartelow to learn how to run an organization. And so 447 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think that culture and I 448 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: think that's we have such wonderful owners in Minnesota and 449 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: now you have a coach there now that the players 450 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: seem to want to fight for so you can kind 451 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: of see how much of a difference that stuff can make. 452 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: It makes all the difference in the world. Yeah, from 453 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: the ground up. When you see people you like every day, 454 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: it makes. It makes all the difference. Right, if it 455 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: works at Google, it works in the NFL, Right if 456 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: they if that model works in there, you're one because 457 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: it is work, You're one hundred percent right. I'm gonna 458 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: pitch you something and you might scoff at it. But 459 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: because you know me, I'm a warrior. I think there 460 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: is a chance that we are catching you guys at 461 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: a bad time because Heiniki has everybody fired up. Everybody's 462 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: behind him. Your rookie running back, Gibson is Brian Robinson 463 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: is playing, He's looking good. Gibson is no slump, right, 464 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: McLaurin is a beast, and at some point, I don't 465 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: know how long until Dotson comes back. But Logan Thomas 466 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: is now getting healthy. It's kind of like all these 467 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: pieces are starting to get healthy at the right time. 468 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: And when you got a guy like Heinick, I think 469 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a moment this season where even though 470 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: you won the last two games, it's not like you 471 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: put it together there's a chance that you guys, all 472 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden, and maybe it's only for a couple 473 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: of games, but that you really put it together, and 474 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: it feels like that's not very far away. Yeah. I 475 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: think we're a competitive team, and I think grow live wire. 476 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: I don't love our match up with you because I 477 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: don't know who we have for Jefferson, right that's my concern. 478 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: I just think you're gonna throw the ball to him 479 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: as long. I mean that, he's to me, the toughest 480 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: matchup in the whole league, and I can't see how 481 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: we can cover him. Also, Dolphin Cook, I think could 482 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: have a big day against US. I wouldn't be surprised 483 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: if you could have Kirk back right now. No, thank you, 484 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: you don't want him back? No, no, See that's the question. 485 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: Do you think this is the first time, you know, 486 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: going back to that culture thing. There was this moment 487 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: in week one where he handed out game balls to 488 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: the new GM and the new coach after the game, 489 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: and any Viking fans should go watch that video. But 490 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: it's it's the first time you've seen the dude bought in, 491 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: and I think he feels like he's truly supported in 492 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: his entire career, and you can say that being franchise 493 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: tagged over and over and over and over and then 494 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: the documented you know, different play style desires between him 495 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: and the coaching staff here. I'm a believer that you know, 496 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: I see where you're coming from. I think a lot 497 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: of fans come from there. But like I think the 498 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: dude deserves at the y. I think it's going to 499 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: go well, but at the very least a shot to go. Hey, man, 500 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: you've been doing this a long time and you're a 501 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: pretty damn good thrower of the football. You deserve to 502 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: have a situation where you are completely supported from behind 503 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: because to your point, that's a different mentality. Man. And 504 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: I'll say this for him, he's a good starting quarterback. 505 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: But to me, if you're gonna win a title in 506 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: this league nowadays, you need and you're gonna beat Pat 507 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: Mahomes or Josh Allen or Jalen Hurts and that whole 508 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: Philadelphia team you're gonna need, or Lamar Jackson. You're gonna 509 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: need a quarterback who gives you a little something extra 510 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: after the play breaks down. And to me, he's in 511 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: a backwards once the play is broken down. Speaking of 512 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: legitimate football players. I need to before you leave, I 513 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: need to talk about you as it because you john 514 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: played some football grown up, but you played with somebody 515 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: who is pretty damn good, and I'm gonna let you 516 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: take it from there. Yeah. I mean when I was 517 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: a kid, I was like sort of like star adjacent, 518 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: like I was an athlete enough to be on the 519 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: field with the good kids. But then like very quickly, 520 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: once crowds started getting involved, and this was that, Like 521 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: I remember, I played quarterback this one year and then 522 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna start the next year, and I was going 523 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: to be the quarterback. And then I got there and 524 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: this kid who ended up being the starting quarterback at 525 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: Maryland years later, was just like a week late. So 526 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, he's the backup. But then after a 527 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: while they're like, no, this kid can actually play. An 528 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: says in his book, It's like I learned very early 529 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: on that talent made up for a lot of things. 530 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, you're the kid that they that 531 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: all the coaches have nicknamed Superman. So they're gonna I'm 532 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna be on the bench eventually, but they the trick 533 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: play was then I was gonna play quarterback, and I 534 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: would just get so anxious that I literally threw the 535 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: ball right into the ground. But he would pick it 536 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: up off the ground and win eighty yards, and he 537 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: mentions it. He mentions it in his book. John Conroy 538 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: is mentioned by name in This Man's Book, and literally, 539 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't. He doesn't make you sound pathetic, 540 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: which I think is very nice of him. But he 541 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: does tea up. He basically says you he doesn't. He 542 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: doesn't really, you know, portray it as a great trick 543 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: play as well as you'd like him too. He portrays 544 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: it as you thumping a ball off the ground to him. 545 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, you were supposed to pitch it and you 546 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: one hop it on purpose. He went really easy on 547 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: me too, because what he doesn't tell you about that year. 548 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: I think I caught about forty passes from him that year, 549 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: and but I was terrified of getting hit. So as 550 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: soon as i'd catch the ball, I'd fall down and 551 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: then I'd be like, look a diving catch everyone. I mean, 552 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: he could hit me like literally like standing straight up, 553 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: and I just backed down like I'm not I wasn't 554 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: gonna get hit. I'd slide down and so Eventually they 555 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: found him a receiver that would catch the ball and 556 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: move forward after his passing. Do you have any rituals? 557 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: Are you superstitious? Do you have a certain way you eat, 558 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: you watch the game? Do you eat anything specific? What's 559 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: your what's your game day situation? Um? No, I'm I'm 560 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean I love the dog. I'll eat a lot 561 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: of food. I'm i'm I get into it. Um. I 562 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: used to drink, like like some of those Redskin games 563 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: that I know, I took two sports too seriously. That's 564 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: when you'd find me, like I was loaded and ready 565 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: to go down in Georgetown for I remember the second 566 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: Gibbs years where we like it seemed like we were 567 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: going to break through. A couple of those years we've 568 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: spent it. Those were my college years in Georgetown. Party 569 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: and Sean Taylor's scoop and scores, and I missed those guys. Yeah, 570 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: so you're a ritual was being a maniac, which I 571 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: could have predicted that. I don't think it surprises you 572 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: to know that I respond to hooliganism. Yes, I'm right 573 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: there in the middle, Like if that's the assignment, I'm 574 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm the one with the acid tongue. I'm not gonna 575 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: throw the first punch, but the first punch often gets 576 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: thrown at me. Yeah, you're the guy that you could 577 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: just be sitting having lunch at a park with your 578 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: family around like a picnic basket, and somebody jogs by 579 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: and goes, well, let's get crazy, and before your family 580 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: turns back to where you used to be sitting, you're 581 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: jogging behind them with your shirt off. That's my vision 582 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: of how easily influenceable you are by the crowd mob. 583 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: I think it's it's guys like that challenge me and 584 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 1: then like I tell them something about their soul and 585 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: they're like, oh no, I wish I had never I 586 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: thought he was a simple fat boy and he cut 587 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: right into the center of me. Yeah. I didn't know 588 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: I had the power to recruit a man like that. 589 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: I've made a mistake. Let's all calm down. How does 590 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: he know my issues with my father? Like it so easy? Well? 591 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: We do this. I'm sorry nobody likes it, but I 592 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: got to get a prediction from you. It's it's it's 593 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: at home. Your team is playing really really well. Our 594 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: team is playing well. What do you got I'm gonna 595 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: call for my first call, I'm gonna say about sixty 596 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: three percent Viking fans at the stadium, Okay for the game, 597 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: um and um. But I think I actually, I think 598 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: we get a win. I think you do. I think 599 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: that I think our defense, I think it's I think 600 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna find a way to beat you guys, even 601 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: though I think you're gonna win your division. Yeah, and 602 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: maybe even challenge for the home home field. This is 603 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: such a crucial game for this team because if they 604 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: can go to seven and one with the Bills coming up, 605 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: I just that puts you in this you know, not 606 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: house money, but you go into the Bills at seven 607 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: one as an underdog, you've done everything you can do 608 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: except for that Philly game leading up to it. I 609 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: just think it gives you this, like, hey here, this 610 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: is such a test for us. This is such a 611 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: great litmus test. That being said, you can't look past Washington. 612 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: I think the Washington team that we thought we were 613 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: going to be seen back when you guys played the Lions, 614 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: that is not the same football team. It is a 615 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: very very different football team right now. And so I'm 616 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: gonna go I'm gonna say Washington ten and Vikings hundred 617 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: and eighty three, John, John, I really appreciate you doing 618 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: the show. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me, buddy, 619 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: so good to see you, and thank you Cambria for 620 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: sponsoring the tailgate. 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