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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast

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Speaker 1: build you from the inside out.

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Speaker 2: Now here's Jay Glacier. Welcome into Unbreakable Mental Wealth Podcast

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Speaker 2: with Jay Glazier. I'm Jay Glazer and man, I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited to have my next guest on. This is a

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Speaker 2: brother mine, somebody who continues to inspire me every day.

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Speaker 2: And if you're a fan of the UFC, you know

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Speaker 2: who he is. He was on the very first season

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Speaker 2: of The Ultimate Fighter. His name is Mike Swick. Mike

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Speaker 2: Quick Swick, Ato, brother.

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Speaker 3: How you doing. That's so good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Last time I saw you, you were beating up my trainers

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Speaker 1: here in Thailand.

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Speaker 2: So not only has Mike had a very prolific UFC

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Speaker 2: career mix Marshal Art's career, but he also opened the

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Speaker 2: most prolific training center in the world aka Thailand. Folks.

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Speaker 2: I got to first of all, I got to go

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Speaker 2: out there and train when I went on my Mind, Body,

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Speaker 2: Spirit journey a few years ago, and Mike, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you know this, one of the reasons I

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Speaker 2: picked Thailand to go to for thirty five days in

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Speaker 2: this journey was because of you.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow. Ye.

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Speaker 2: I was in a. I was in a dark, really

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Speaker 2: bad place, and I wanted to go somewhere were so

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Speaker 2: different than what I was doing here in America. And

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Speaker 2: I was looking at Bali, and I was looking a

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Speaker 2: couple of other places in Thailand, and because you were there,

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Speaker 2: I was in such a weird paranoid Stay. If anything

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Speaker 2: goes down, at least I have a friend here.

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Speaker 3: Man. That means a lot to me. It really does.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty cool, man. And it's funny too, because of

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Speaker 2: that time, I only told three other people I was

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Speaker 2: going out there. I told the Rock because that fucker

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Speaker 2: has a plane that could reach us, and then Brandy

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Speaker 2: Gatour and Jay Huran because those crazy bastards, those expendables

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Speaker 2: will get on that plane to go save my ass.

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Speaker 2: So Mike, you know, Mike is obviously is a fighter,

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Speaker 2: but he's a fighter in a much different way as well.

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Speaker 2: And you know, when I was out in Thailand the

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Speaker 2: first time, he told me what he did to overcome

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Speaker 2: what he got hit with. And it's you know, happens since.

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Speaker 2: But I want Mike to explain this, and look, I

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Speaker 2: usually the show by asking our guest, give me your

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Speaker 2: unbreakable moment, moment that should have broken. You could have

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Speaker 2: and didn't, and as a result, you came from the

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Speaker 2: other side of this tone was stronger forever. But Mike's

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Speaker 2: last several years have been unbreakable moment after unbreakable moment

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Speaker 2: after unbreakable moment, and Mike, I'm gonna let you lead

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Speaker 2: into us. Mike is a cancer survivor now several times over.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, he's a fighter, and he took a

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Speaker 2: different fight to cancer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I have a lot of unbreakable moments in

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Speaker 1: my life, but uh, I think the most would be

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Speaker 1: definitely when the doctor diagnosed me with cancer and I

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Speaker 1: heard that stage four come out of his mouth. That's

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Speaker 3: Like, wow, that's a lot for one day.

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Speaker 2: What kind of cancer was it?

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Speaker 3: I had lymphoma, lymphoblastic lymphoma.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was the most aggressive kind, the same

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Speaker 1: one that got Rumble Johnson. And uh, you know the

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Speaker 1: thing is is it's like my brain works in such

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Speaker 1: crazy ways. It's like I don't I never see an end.

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Speaker 1: I never see a no, I never see a you

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Speaker 1: So it's like it was like shock, and I was

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Speaker 1: But like for me, it's like I had a fight,

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Speaker 3: You know. It's like I have a fight here and

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Speaker 1: It's like it's not like I can make my my

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Speaker 1: And I was looking at the holistic, you know, evidence

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Speaker 1: I was just like, so I know I know cancer.

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Speaker 1: I know enough about cancer to know that cancer is

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Speaker 1: like a broken cell. It's not a healthy cell. It's broken, right,

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Speaker 1: So it's not as strong as your good cells, which

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Speaker 1: So like in my head, I'm like, the weaker I

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Speaker 1: more I'm gonna live. Right, So I was like, have

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Speaker 2: That's where your mind went through read.

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Speaker 1: Well, from that point on, it was like there was

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Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about your life. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's not like a gamble with like some money or

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Speaker 3: No healthy body. You know, your body's gonna be not.

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Speaker 1: I don't advise like a twenty four to forty eight

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Speaker 3: Never asked it for even a day before.

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Speaker 2: Get before you enter this. I mean, I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: So it's like I could just walk through that place

438
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Speaker 1: and I do it every day, and it's just like

439
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Speaker 1: that is like a real posit thing. And like as

440
00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,199
Speaker 1: of right now, like you know, since uh, you know,

441
00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,320
Speaker 1: since having the cancer. It's been such a success. It's

442
00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,879
Speaker 1: like I knew either way, you know, I had, I

443
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,360
Speaker 1: had my my legacy to live on, to my family,

444
00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,520
Speaker 1: to my kids too. They can see what I did,

445
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, and like, you know, it's helped a lot

446
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,399
Speaker 1: of people. It's created a lot of success for people.

447
00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,040
Speaker 1: People love it. They come from all over the world,

448
00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,800
Speaker 1: and so it's like, it's great to be able to

449
00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,200
Speaker 1: have done something where I can open up my creativity

450
00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,359
Speaker 1: and visual vision and uh and be able to build

451
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,479
Speaker 1: and create something that's also you know, successful for other

452
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Speaker 1: people as well successful for myself.

453
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Speaker 2: Give me something else about that flank dem you haven't

454
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Speaker 2: told me and we may not know about that was like,

455
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Speaker 2: oh man, this was whatn't expecting this.

456
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Speaker 1: Do you mean like a physical or do you mean

457
00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,159
Speaker 1: like that just about oh oh oh, the well the

458
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,879
Speaker 1: mental side you think you're talking about. Oddly enough, the

459
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,280
Speaker 1: mental side was when I was doing the best because

460
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Speaker 1: at the end to what happened was you do you

461
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 1: stay in the hospital for the first month and you

462
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,920
Speaker 1: do chemo every of the day, and if I get

463
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 1: sick because my my my white blood cells is so low.

464
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Speaker 2: Where where where's the hospital? Which country?

465
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Speaker 3: Bang Cock because they have really good they have really

466
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Speaker 3: good dogs.

467
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Speaker 1: That yeah, and uh and and so three weeks in

468
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 1: my my girlfriend at the time you met her, My

469
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 1: girlfriend at the time had left to come back, you know,

470
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Speaker 1: to go get some things from the house and come back.

471
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Speaker 1: And so three weeks. And it takes three weeks for

472
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 1: your hair to start falling out. And then now you're

473
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Speaker 1: feeling like some real like like your body is like

474
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 1: so skinny, and the key most taking effect. So you're

475
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 1: feeling the worst. Your body's feeling the worst. Your hair's

476
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 1: falling out, like you know, this is like the worst

477
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 1: like feeling and look of you, of yourself and my my,

478
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 1: my girl came back and she was in the room,

479
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 1: and we were in the room for like a while,

480
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 1: and she just kept complaining about being sick. So I

481
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 1: called the nurses in and they checked on her and

482
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: she had COVID, so she brought COVID into the hospital

483
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 1: to my room. I would have died if I got COVID,

484
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 1: so luckily they tested her and got her out of

485
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 1: the room immediately, and I didn't get COVID. So I

486
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 1: spent my last week and in the hospital in Bangkok

487
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 1: by myself so I don't want anybody else seeing me

488
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 1: in the state or whatever, you know, except her. And

489
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,199
Speaker 1: so when I would get up in the mornings, just

490
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,479
Speaker 1: like I was already beating it. You know, doctors had

491
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 1: already been so surprised I had no symptoms of cancer.

492
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 1: You know, I was doing fantastics, and my progress was great.

493
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Speaker 2: You know.

494
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 3: The hair the hair was falling.

495
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 1: Out because of the chemo, the way it was gone

496
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 1: because of me, you know, and my body was aching

497
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Speaker 1: because of the chemo.

498
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 3: Nothing was really from the cancer.

499
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Speaker 1: But every morning when I when I walked into the

500
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Speaker 1: bathroom and turned the light on and I saw myself,

501
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 1: it was like I was looking at a skeleton like death,

502
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 1: you know, like it was like even though you know

503
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 1: you're okay, in fact, you should be happy because like

504
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's looking like you're going to beat this thing.

505
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:38,640
Speaker 2: Now.

506
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: It was so tough to just from that point on

507
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: to continue because you've been there for three weeks already,

508
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 1: and now I had to go out of the bathroom

509
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 1: for seeing myself and then just you know, live with

510
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: that feeling in my mind, and I'm stuck in this room,

511
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: just going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.

512
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 1: Like a like a cell, you know, like a prison cell.

513
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 1: It's kind of like I have a private room, but

514
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: it's like it's only so big, and all you can

515
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 1: really do is think, you know, there's not much else

516
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 1: to do.

517
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, that was the that was the part that

518
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: was like it was like really it was putting me

519
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 3: at like rock bottom, I think, like mentally.

520
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: But by the time I went home, I was like,

521
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't think I could have taken too many more

522
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 1: days of that, to be honest, it was tough. I

523
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 1: was hurt really bad, and like, yeah I was, I

524
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: wasn't doing so good.

525
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: Do you think that because you have a background fighting

526
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: it allowed you to fight more?

527
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: I think because I like, I have this part of

528
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: myself that's kind of can turn on that savage side,

529
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 1: and that made me the fighter who I am. So

530
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: it's not the fighting itself, it's just kind of like

531
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: that side of me. I lost my father when I

532
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 1: was young, and then due to all these different circumstances

533
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 1: that happened I as a kid, I got this like

534
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: real savage side of me that like, you know, I

535
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 1: don't see nose and I don't see you know, when

536
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: I put myself on the line, and I'm trying to

537
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: negotiate or do things, or gamble or achieve something. I

538
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 1: put my life on the line every single time. I'm

539
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: not afraid to gamble everything all the time, every time,

540
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: and people can't match that wage.

541
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Speaker 3: So I went all the time. And that's how I

542
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 3: built that k Thailand.

543
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: If you think I came to Thailand and built what

544
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: Thailand voted as the number one movie ties school in

545
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: time for the last four years, being a Texas boy

546
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: with no movie timee fights, you can imagine how many

547
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: battles I had.

548
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: Coming up.

549
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: You imagine how many people didn't want me to have

550
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: the best movie high school in Thailand and get this

551
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 1: kind of like exposure that I'm getting. So I've had

552
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,959
Speaker 1: a lot of battles, but nobody has been able to

553
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: match that that kind of wager that I'm willing to

554
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: do each and every time I step up to the plate.

555
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 3: And so I think that's what helped me.

556
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Speaker 2: So now since I've been at ak Thailand, you've built

557
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Speaker 2: it up more described Herry real quick one. You describe

558
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Speaker 2: exactly how big it is, how just it's such a

559
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Speaker 2: profound place. It's incredible. But then I want you to

560
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 2: kind of take it through some of the business lessons

561
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: you've learned along the way, then you could have now

562
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: taught Mike Swick that was first starting this journey.

563
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: Well, I was building business when I was a kid,

564
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: so I mean I started out like with a landscaping

565
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: and then like a pressure watching business in high school.

566
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 1: I've always worked for myself, so like I was always

567
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: doing business, and then I've built a seven figure business

568
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: when I was in the UFC. Before I got in

569
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: the UFC, and then during my UFC career, I was

570
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: running a print shop and I turned into one of

571
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Speaker 1: the largest print shops in northern California.

572
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: So really I was failing.

573
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: I always say I was failing through my way, you know,

574
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: through my career because like you fail to learn, right,

575
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: So I was getting all my failures out of the

576
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: way early so that I could win when it mattered,

577
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: which is now at the end of my life when

578
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I need to enjoy and sit

579
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: back and coast and not have anyone tell me what

580
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: to do, not have any boss, not anybody anything, and

581
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: then have a free you know, freedom and a free

582
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: schedule to be able to go.

583
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Speaker 3: Do what I want to do.

584
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Speaker 1: When I want to do it and not have to

585
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: ask permission or be told, you know, what to do.

586
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: So I was building business back then, and then all

587
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: through the UFC it was like it was just I

588
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: knew that was a stepping stone for me to help

589
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: me get into circles I needed, because I've been coming

590
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 1: to time for over twenty years, and I knew if

591
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Speaker 1: I wanted to do anything entirely and I have to

592
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: be inside with some very serious circles here to have

593
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: the connections to be able to survive. And I knew

594
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: that if I was a fighter, that's one way. If

595
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: you're an Alpha mel you know, if you're a fighter,

596
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: if you're a military guy, I know you support the

597
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: military troops too. You know, you can get into circles

598
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: real easy and that in that regard if people know

599
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: you from fighting and stuff like that. And I knew

600
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: that from doing overseas military support tours during my UFC career,

601
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: I did the most of anyone I think in the world.

602
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 3: I did like over twenty.

603
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Speaker 1: Overseas tours, including two tours in Iraq, two tours in Afghanistan, Djibouti,

604
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: Africa got kicked out of Actually I'm banned from Jibouti.

605
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Speaker 3: Big deal.

606
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: But wait, hold on, hold on, why are you band

607
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: from Jibouti.

608
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: Because I filmed too much.

609
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: It was before we got Osama and like they were

610
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: like they attacked our van and they were like they

611
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: were how Osama bin Latin Shirs and all this crazy stuff,

612
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: and like some French foreign legions came to like rescue us,

613
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: and then all we had on the base in Jibouti

614
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: was like these these Puerto Ricans that were like representing

615
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Speaker 1: in the US.

616
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 3: And so it was like the French.

617
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Speaker 1: Foreign legion and Puerto Rican American like soldiers and they

618
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: were coming and they rescued us, and I feel all

619
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: this stuff and like put on YouTube and like they

620
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: got the country got really pissed off.

621
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so and I was in.

622
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: Ramstein in Germany with the Wood of Warriors and I've

623
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: been to Walter Reed and Washington multiple times the Booted Wars.

624
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: I never support war, you know, but I supported the

625
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: troops because these guys are Yeah. I came from Texas

626
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: and I was a poor, poor Texas kid growing up,

627
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: and it's like all my friends were like looking for

628
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: adventure and looking.

629
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Speaker 3: For this, like see the world, get a free education.

630
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, and they sign up and then now they're

631
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: doing convoys and like I can get their rights blown

632
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 1: off and stuff. So I'm like, they thought we were

633
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: cool because we were fighters. So it's like, man, if

634
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: I can go and inspire these guys and spend my

635
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: time with them. So between every UFC fight, they did

636
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: sometimes maybe two three tours of two weeks each, multiple camps.

637
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: These time, I did over twenty two, like over twenty

638
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty two overseas military support tours.

639
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was uh so.

640
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: Go back to that way to go back though, we're

641
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: talking about when you describe ak A Thailand, describe it to everybody,

642
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: tell us how how many.

643
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: It's so what I did, I don't do anything the

644
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: same as everybody.

645
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

646
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't do anything the same as everybody else because

647
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: I found, you know, if I want to do something

648
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: different and be different and do something incredible, it's never

649
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: like something that everybody else does. So I've always been

650
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: different my ideas. I was always the crazy guy with

651
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: the crazy ideas. So what I did was I basically

652
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: when I was built Akay Thailand, I wanted to come

653
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: to Thailand and build a fight gym. But it's like

654
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: everybody just naturally thinks if you build a fight gym,

655
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: you have to build a fight gym for fighters because

656
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: it's a fight gem. But a lot of people want

657
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: to they watch fighting, they're into fighting, they love fighting,

658
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Speaker 1: they're enthusiasts, and they want to come come to train

659
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Speaker 1: with fighters too.

660
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: But who wants to really train with fighters if they're

661
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: not a fighter, right, So.

662
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to open that door, and I wanted to

663
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Speaker 1: create the first fight gem not for fighters, and so

664
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Speaker 1: I built it specifically high high class, high level and

665
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: the largest in the world and resort style. But it's

666
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: basically the most exclusive sports combat resort, fight fight resort

667
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: in the world, and it was built for non fighters.

668
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: But we do have fighters, and we do have you know, basically,

669
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: we do havelf a fight team.

670
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: And what I do now is I just took me

671
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: three years and to set this up because Fight Club,

672
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 3: the movie really inspired me for this.

673
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: I know how savage people can be that aren't fighters,

674
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: like Carpenter's businessmen entrepreneurs. So I set up the scene

675
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: called fight Club Experience. And what we do now is

676
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: we have a program where you can sign up and

677
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: come to my gym and like, no matter who you are,

678
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: as long as you haven't fought before, I guarantee you

679
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: that you come to our gym, you get trained that

680
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: you can do it in a month, two months, however

681
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: long you want. And then we put you on a

682
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: broadcast live across the world on my own broadcast Aktalan

683
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: dot tv and then my app in the app store,

684
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: Apple and Google, and so we broadcast the fight live.

685
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 3: And you actually get a fight.

686
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: In front of a pack ti stadium in a movie

687
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: time match as a real match. It gains a real person,

688
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: you know, similarly experiencing you. And so these guys get

689
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: to come to my gym. Now we've had so many

690
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: we just posted on Instagram the other day. And so

691
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: these guys are like working in these offices, you know,

692
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: cubicles and stuff, and like you know there maybe their

693
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: kids don't look up to them like savages and stuff

694
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: off and like they're coming to Thailand and they're fighting

695
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: and they're winning. If you look at our website, they're

696
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: winning every time. Like they're they're knocking people out and

697
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: like they're savage. You know, I've always said you're not

698
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: a fighter because you say you're a fighter, you know,

699
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: saying you're a fighter because you're either a fighter.

700
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: Or you're not, you know. And so it's like you

701
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 3: can't just call yourself a fighter and be a fighter,

702
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: you know, you have to have it in you.

703
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of guys that do regular jobs

704
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: that are just as savage as fighters, and so I

705
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: love watching these guys come to Thailand.

706
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: But we have carpenters. We had, like I said, we have.

707
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: Also I want to explain this, how many rings do

708
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: you have?

709
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: Well, in my wood Tide Jim is the largest in

710
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: the world, so we have the largest indoor of matic

711
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: uh climb control. How we have two oversized seven point

712
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: two meters rings and seven thousand square foot stadium sized

713
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: multi area surrounded by jungle that I've built.

714
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: So basically there's.

715
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: How many cakes, like the whole area to more than

716
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: it was like, no.

717
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: No, there's not two rings, but we have all the

718
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: bags everywhere else.

719
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: And then we have another MMA facility, We have a

720
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: way ages facility, we have a restaurant. The whole thing

721
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: is a school as well. Then we have the pool

722
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: side now that I built. So basically I built an

723
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: underwater pool underwater fight gym. So I built a ten

724
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: meter by twelve and a half meter by ten meter

725
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: pool saltwater.

726
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: It's like two thousand and.

727
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: Six hundred square square feet and it was all hand

728
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: painted in three D by artists in Thailand. Took them

729
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: forty five days to paint it to look like an

730
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: underwater sunk in fight gym at the bottom of the ocean.

731
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: We even even.

732
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: Posters and like the wood, the doors and the like,

733
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: all this stuff like this, and then we filled up

734
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: with water. We trained in that and then we would

735
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: white sand around it as like a cafe, like we

736
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: got bamboo furniture.

737
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Speaker 3: We got an alpha tower, which I just created.

738
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: What I was saying, towers like a you know, Ninja warrior.

739
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: The towers like an alpha tower.

740
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: So it's basically when I got cancer, I wanted to

741
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: build a flagpole, and they allowed me to put the

742
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: flag only a certain hype, so I had to put

743
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: on top of a facility.

744
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: And so I said, okay, what if I built a tower.

745
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: So I built the tower as high as I could.

746
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: They would let me build the tower, and then I

747
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: put my flag as highs with let me put on

748
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: top of the tower because I wanted everybody that doubted

749
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: me and to try to stop me in Thailand to

750
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: see this flax. I wanted to be as high as

751
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: humanly possible. It's like twelve feet long and like so

752
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: when I was in the hospital with cancer, I designed

753
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: this one of a kind, like because I wanted the

754
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: most attention to go to this flagpole and see my flag.

755
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: I designed this. It's a staircase. It's like a staircase that's.

756
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: Going up, you know, fifty four feet eighty eight stairs,

757
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: and it's it's for running, you know, for exercise.

758
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: We have also pulled up bars that go along the side.

759
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: We've got ropes to go up the side so we

760
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: can do circuits on it. Plus it's also a viewing platform.

761
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: It's ocean view so you can see all the islands

762
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: and the ocean and all that. And then we also

763
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: have it's a nice place to sheet to the basketball court.

764
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: We got a custom basketball court. We do trick shots

765
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Speaker 1: from the top into the basketball who.

766
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Speaker 2: At one point you're gonna put like lodging there. Have

767
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: you done that yet?

768
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do lodging because this is like my master

769
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: It's a two acre of property, and I wanted just

770
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: to be covered in just awesome facilities, facilities or one

771
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: of a kind that don't make sense. The pool is

772
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: one of a kind in every way, basketball courtse even

773
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: one of the kind.

774
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: The ice pass one of a kind.

775
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: Everything that I've done, having my podcast studio there as well.

776
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: And that's it's two acres full like it's like a campus,

777
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: the whole thing.

778
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it takes a while to watch, as you know.

779
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: I want people to get this too, because so I

780
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: went out there. It's about ninety eight degrees and one

781
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: hundred percent humidity and it's brutal. So training and that

782
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: is that's training. That's different. Your lung's gonna get used

783
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: to it. Mike and I were gonna, you know, he's

784
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: gonna put me to his coaches. We'red to train a

785
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 2: little bit. And he and he realized you used to say, Jay,

786
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: do you want to do like what everybody else does,

787
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: which is it's just too human here, just we'll do

788
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: we'll look good for cameras. What fuck you, Mike? Am

789
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: I doing that? We're doing fucking three minute rounds. He's like,

790
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: it's hard, man, I ain't gonna lie it it's hard,

791
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: but it was no way I wouldn't fucking do it.

792
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: It's it didn't know you were gonna be all NFL

793
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: to training like hell, you know, like you stocking me

794
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: out there like after it man, So I was like,

795
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: all right, cool, let's do it.

796
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're gonna be out there, you gotta fucking

797
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: do it.

798
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: Since we since we built the gym to the higher

799
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: standard for everybody where the as he gets the celebrities

800
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of celebrities that wanted to and

801
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: weskleafand posted a video from Aka time and he got

802
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: more views than like his last six months on most

803
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: of his reels because people want to see a different

804
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: side of some of these celebrities being like alpha and stuff.

805
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: So we just had sense she'll see there.

806
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: We had Riis Kalifa, the now Boys, you know, a

807
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: bunch of guys that were coming through there and uh

808
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: so dealing with those guys, you know, we yeah, I

809
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: usually Steve Aoki was just there for a couple of

810
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: weeks or I'm sorry, for a couple of days, and

811
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: he was doing the same thing. He had his first

812
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: moos High session with us and with all the celebrities.

813
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, you know, we can make you

814
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: look good and unless you trained a few you know,

815
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: a few rounds, a few minutes or something like that,

816
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: if you don't want to go hard because it is hot,

817
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: it is humid, and most of the time these celebrities

818
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: go hard and with I know you know firsthand because

819
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: you train.

820
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: Him as well seven years.

821
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: This guy can fight, man, This guy.

822
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: Seriously can seriously not only training.

823
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, this dude can fight like I want. I want.

824
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: I want to get him in like an actual stadium

825
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: fight like. This dude can seriously fight.

826
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: Bro.

827
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 2: I've told people like I've traveled Randy get Her for

828
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen years whatever, never hurt me in the body,

829
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: Chuck Oddell fifteen years, never hurt me in the body.

830
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: Whis Khalifa hurt me to the body. You gotta be

831
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: fucking kidding me. The way he turns his hips and

832
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about him. He's got

833
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: me twice now, I'm like, motherfucker, but he you know,

834
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: I think Wiz has guys like that. We've trained a

835
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: lot of these, you know, performers. They have no ego

836
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: in it because yeah, I think they're choreography. They were

837
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: able to put six, seven, eight steps together. We're not.

838
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: We're usually I Max had three or four and I'm

839
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: trying to you know, I'm trying to fucking go for

840
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: broken on a lot of it. They could see things

841
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: and put together all the pieces together way better than

842
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: we can. If you take your ego out of it.

843
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: It's like a golfer who's trying to hit the ball

844
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: way too hard. It doesn't but if you just let

845
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: your technique go, you're gonna swing through the ball. That's

846
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: what makes them different. But Whiz is different than all

847
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: of them.

848
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: No, He's amazing and is a great guy.

849
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: And the thing is, that's why we went a lot

850
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: of the fights, like I told you about, from these

851
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: average people, because.

852
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: Like they're students of the game. And I felt same thing.

853
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: Like when I was fighting in the UFC, I was

854
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: a striker and when I had to start learning jiu jitsu,

855
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in the white belt class.

856
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, I already had like multiple MMA fights and

857
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: all this and I'm sitting there with white belt on,

858
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, trying to work my way up.

859
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: Tick.

860
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: I finally got, you know more more rank, but it

861
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: was like, it's the same thing with all fighters. They

862
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: don't they don't want to stand learning the basics and

863
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: and and go through the process, whereas everybody else, including celebrities,

864
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: like with especially, they're taking it in and soaking it

865
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: up and they're learning the basics and then when they

866
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: get in the ring, it works shockingly enough. Like could

867
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: be a great example, could be you've never seen Kabe

868
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: do like a complex move in his life, Like he's

869
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: never done a flying arm bar, He's never done like

870
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: some crazy move. He sticks to the basics and he's

871
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: an absolute master at it, you know, and you can't

872
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: stop them. And so yeah, it's that's that's the difference

873
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: of regular people, I think and the celebrities that come

874
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: through there, and they trained so hard, and it's so

875
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: good for me because it's like I spent half my

876
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: career with fighters, and like you know, hearing about how

877
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: they're going to be in the UFC or asking me

878
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: about my UFC career. It's great coming to work every

879
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: day and being able to be around people that are

880
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: like all different and from different jobs and different like

881
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: areas and network differently and all these different people and it's.

882
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: Really cool to like, you know, for a postfight like life.

883
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't have a better life than being a beautiful island,

884
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: living a beautiful villa.

885
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: Go to my gym here, it's like this is great

886
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: for me.

887
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna come out back out there and see

888
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: you here.

889
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: Definitely a few months ago, I guess you posted a

890
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: video again Savagery right there.

891
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: I love the place. But like I said, man, I'm

892
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: proudy man, I appreciate you being my brother. Yeah, I

893
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: want to tell you that. I know I never told

894
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: you that you're the reason why I went out there,

895
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 2: and that place saved my life, like Thailand saved my life.

896
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: Being able to learn from these time monks. I I

897
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: how to love myself up and you know, gratitude lists

898
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: and breath work and meditation got me back with my

899
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: now wife Rosie. From place saved my life. So I

900
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: appreciate you brother.

901
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: Well, I want to say too, like honestly, like I

902
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: know you won't believe this because you think I'm just

903
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: giving this back to you right now, but like I

904
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: actually thought about you because we talked a lot, you

905
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: know about that your book and then the box and

906
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: all this stuff and and the people you affected, you

907
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: know when you get conversation about it. But you know,

908
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: we talked about and when I was going through my

909
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: rock bottom times as well, like like you thinking about

910
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: what you you know, seeing how happy you are and

911
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: how how professional you are and how how good you

912
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: do your job. And then especially the people that we

913
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: talked about and how they do their jobs and what

914
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: they do and the things they went through. It really

915
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: did actually believe it or not give me some inspiration

916
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: help me keep going, because.

917
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not the only one, you know, like

918
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 3: you know, I.

919
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: Might be in a different circumstance, a different situation, but

920
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: like you know, don't give up mentally, like you know, don't,

921
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: don't you You're too fucking strong to Like can I

922
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: say that you're too strong?

923
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 2: Thing you're talking to? Of course?

924
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: Okay, you look in the mirror and see the stuff,

925
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: and you've been through all this to let yourself you know,

926
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, this talk we had entirely I meant a

927
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: lot more than you think.

928
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: Man, it really did.

929
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: And so I returned the gesture to you because you

930
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: definitely got me to that next level as well, and

931
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: it could have had a huge effect on me.

932
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: Finding this cancer.

933
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. That is the coolest thing I could hear. Man.

934
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: You took the step. Man, you know, you took the step.

935
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 3: You wrote the book.

936
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: You you were an advocate and came out and like

937
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: you did a lot of things that a lot of

938
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 1: us haven't done. And the impact that has is huge,

939
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, And so it's like I think,

940
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: I don't think you realize and that's why I told you,

941
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: but I don't think you realize how much of an

942
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: impact that that that is to to especially with our

943
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: talks and everything that you were very inspiring for me

944
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: and helped me out a lot.

945
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: To hear that from a brother, man, that's everything, and

946
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: that's where people were afraid to open up about this.

947
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: Like by opening up and talking, it turns friendships into brotherhoods.

948
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: Mike Slick literally the ultimate fighter. I appreciate you joining us, brother.

949
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I've been waiting to be on

950
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: your ship for so long.