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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: Live from our Tommy John Home Studios. I am Chad

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Speaker 1: Moment of the Action Network. This is our Sunday night episode.

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Speaker 1: We will review the faves five picks we put into

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Speaker 1: the contest. We're going to dissect why we left some

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Speaker 1: games out. We're going to preview the early lines we

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Speaker 1: already like for a full week of NFL football in

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Speaker 1: week seventeen games Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday. I'm joined as

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Speaker 2: Hello, so a man, Chad, How are we doing, dude?

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Speaker 1: We are two and two on the day. We have

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys plus four and a half tonight. This is

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Speaker 1: the week where we looked in the face of the

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Speaker 1: gambling gods and the trends of Favorites dominating, and we said,

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Speaker 1: screw you. Good teams with great quarterbacks, we will not

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Speaker 1: be intimidated. We didn't like every dog today, we did

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Speaker 1: like some. After the early window there had been on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: there had been ten NFL games played, so the Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the Saturday Sunday Favorites had won eight of them. Simon,

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Speaker 1: It's an unbelievable trend. And while we did have a

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Speaker 1: favorite in our top five today, somehow it's the only

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Speaker 1: favorite that didn't cover, But we were on both underdogs

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Speaker 1: that covered in the early window. This may be the

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Speaker 1: most exciting post games review we've ever had. Like two

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Speaker 1: games we were really sure of, gave us all the

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Speaker 3: The one game we.

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Speaker 1: Loved for every reason except for one did not go

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Speaker 3: We're going to break that down.

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Speaker 1: We're going to play a little clip that shows how

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Speaker 1: much we were foreshadowing our fears. Amazing Topsy Turvy bet

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Speaker 1: to roll Simon. Let's start with our early loss, early

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Speaker 1: window loss the Rams at the New York Jets. We

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Speaker 1: had the Jets plus three and a half Gifford, Producer, Gifford,

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Speaker 1: are you ready? Because I want us to play a

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Speaker 1: clip of our convo from Thursday?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember, Simon? Do you remember that conversation?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember our biggest fear about betting the Jets

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Speaker 2: I do not.

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Speaker 3: Gifford, are you ready to play this clip? You can

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Speaker 3: tell me in the chat?

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Speaker 1: He is ready. All right, Here we go play it.

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Speaker 1: This is the scary party. They're very unqualified, ill equipped

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Speaker 1: head coach who knows less about clock management than just

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Speaker 1: about anybody watching Red Zone on a Sunday afternoon. It's

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Speaker 1: actually astonishing how bad he is at it. So if

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Speaker 1: about you, Simon, but I put us losing that game

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Speaker 3: The shoulders of Jeff Ulbrick.

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Speaker 1: And his asinine, idiotic go back to being a defensive

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Speaker 1: makes the wrong call every single time. I'm referring to

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Speaker 1: the first quarter. The Jets dominate the game. They look amazing.

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Speaker 1: They look like the team that had been overvalued. The

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Speaker 1: Jets look like the team that is finally figuring it out.

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Speaker 1: In my head, I was thinking, oh my god, the

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Speaker 3: That's how well he was playing.

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Speaker 1: They're up six to nothing because of course they score

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Speaker 1: There's no reason to be aggressive in the game. You

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Speaker 1: the day. What was your thought on that particular play,

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Speaker 1: because in my head, I'm like, this guy's truly a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every call he made flip the momentum.

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Speaker 4: Like the Jets defense, not that they dominate the game,

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Speaker 4: but Stafford only had what one and ten hundred and

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Speaker 2: He wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Like we talked about, they were playing so all the Jets,

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Speaker 4: and basically every point that the Rams had came off

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Speaker 4: a Jets bad decision, Right, it was either the head

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Speaker 4: And obviously going for it at midfield once again and

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Speaker 4: like they gave it away in so many different ways

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Speaker 4: with those bad calls that you're right, it's it's brutal,

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Speaker 4: But it was just like we talked about, it's the

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Speaker 4: other dogs you bet today. It's like, you bet these

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Speaker 2: To go your way.

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Speaker 4: And we had a game today where every bounce went

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Speaker 4: all basically came down to Devati Adams turned the wrong

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Speaker 4: a sudden the Rams come down score again. It's like,

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Speaker 4: well that BET's officially dead. So yeah, brutal bet, brutal

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Speaker 1: So what you're referring to is this is a nine

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Speaker 1: clearly a defensive battle where points are going to be

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Speaker 1: game knows you just got to get as many points

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Speaker 1: Kyron Williams. Fourth and four from their own twelve from

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Speaker 2: Even worse, I don't I don't think it's him, Chat.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's Rogers.

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Speaker 4: He's going to make these decisions because it feels like

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Speaker 4: every time it's Rogers standing on the field waving or

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Speaker 2: And it's like, dude, do not let this crazy.

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Speaker 4: Guy who might have him be here in about two weeks,

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Speaker 4: keep making all these decisions, Like obviously Rogers Lewis was

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you. It's like the man has no backbone.

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Speaker 4: He kept making the wrong calls, not understanding the way

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Speaker 2: Just how much momentums team had.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, they just had so many opportunities that

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Speaker 4: the best thing they had today that I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: So the other player referring to is they were down

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Speaker 1: as they should. In my head, I was already thinking, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Instead it's fourth and four.

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Speaker 1: so many penalties in critical situations, They're pushed back nine yards,

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Speaker 1: they go for the field goal, they miss it. Can

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Speaker 1: you recall a coach that when you're handicapping, you've had

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Speaker 1: to so aggressively consider his ineptitude when you are thinking

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Speaker 1: about betting that game, when you are making a number

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Speaker 1: for that game. At this point, I feel like you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Saints coach I fired this year

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Speaker 4: haven't always told us that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I was trying to.

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Speaker 4: Think, is that what was the guy's name was a

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Speaker 4: He hit a point where it was like anything this

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Speaker 4: I still can't get over. That's basically what that game

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Speaker 1: The thrill I had with Carolina winning that coin flip

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Speaker 3: Like they have to be perfect nearly perfect, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So no, we did. We did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for Detroit once you said though five and a half.

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Speaker 4: But it was just like, man, they can't blow this game.

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Speaker 4: No, it's another week of like, ole guys, I respect

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Speaker 1: We talked about putting the Lions in here, and there

442
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Speaker 1: was a moment, as always happens back to back, Saquon

443
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Speaker 1: scores on a sixty eight yard touchdown right after Jamison

444
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Speaker 1: Williams for the Lions catches.

445
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 3: An eighty yard bomb.

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Speaker 1: In that moment, I was having such regret, Like I'm like,

447
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Speaker 1: I was just thinking, well, at least the Jets are dominating,

448
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: and at least the Panthers are dominating.

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Speaker 3: But like I was truly having.

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Speaker 1: Such better as regret even with herts out, they're down

451
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Speaker 1: twenty one to seven. I felt like we were always

452
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Speaker 1: in it because Kenny Pickett played great in the end.

453
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Speaker 1: But the reason Saquon didn't do anything is because the

454
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Speaker 1: commanders knew Kenny Pickett wasn't going to be able to

455
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Speaker 1: do anything, and they could just load the box and

456
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Speaker 1: stop Saquon from getting any yardage whatsoever. And they still

457
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: did everything they could to throw this game away. Between

458
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Speaker 1: the two picks Jayden Nanna fumble in the second half,

459
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Speaker 1: AJ Brown drew sixty eight yards of pass interference penalties

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Speaker 1: on Marshawn Lattimore. That was as many yards almost as

461
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Speaker 1: he had in the first half receiving, Like can you.

462
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Speaker 1: Pickett had two great plays, one of them on fourth

463
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Speaker 1: and seven to AJ. But we got very lucky in

464
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Speaker 1: that game. Even on the game winning play. If you watch,

465
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Speaker 1: you're gonna go back and watch the film. I know,

466
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Speaker 1: on the game winning play, see how early the commander's

467
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Speaker 1: right tackle went.

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Speaker 3: He was like, I'd say.

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Speaker 1: Zero point two to point three seconds before the snap,

470
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Speaker 1: like to the point where my kids sitting next to me.

471
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Speaker 1: He goes, well, there's a flag. I'm like, what he

472
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Speaker 1: goes the right tackle went early. I'm like, I know,

473
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Speaker 1: but they didn't throw it like it was so obvious,

474
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Speaker 1: and I was surprised the announcers didn't say anything, cause,

475
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Speaker 1: like it was, it was so fundamentally clear. I thought

476
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Speaker 1: we were just gonna lose it on that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the refs though, are all bizarre, Like think

478
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Speaker 4: some of those calls against AJ were just upscene like

479
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: they literally but the Eagles basically drive the field for

480
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Speaker 4: that whole kept calling holds in past interference. But yeah,

481
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Speaker 4: for me, it's, you know, a game where we got lucky,

482
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Speaker 4: we played the number, but we always talk about there's

483
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Speaker 4: certain spots, and that was just a bad spot for

484
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Speaker 4: that Eagles team. And now they're in a position that

485
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Speaker 4: you know, they have some real decisions to make. How

486
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 4: bad this hurts concussion is because obviously couldn't come back

487
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Speaker 4: in this game.

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Speaker 2: So you know, as an.

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Speaker 4: Eagles fan, I'm happy it's nothing to do with his body,

490
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Speaker 4: but we all know how hard it is to come

491
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Speaker 4: back from cushions. Depending on the concussion, right, if this

492
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Speaker 4: is a bad one, he could be out to the playoffs.

493
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Speaker 4: If it's not that big of a deal, like we'll

494
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Speaker 4: know early in this week. Obviously come back this week.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, we were never going to cover this number.

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Speaker 4: If it was Jalen Hurts in the full game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally not New England at Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, eight favorites cover in the early window,

499
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Speaker 1: including Michael Pennix and the huge favorites over the Giants

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Speaker 1: which we never considered, and the Lions at six and

501
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Speaker 1: a half, which we thought about, and the Bengals at

502
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Speaker 1: seven and a half, which, excuse me, which grew even

503
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Speaker 1: bigger as we got I think it was close to

504
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Speaker 1: ten before kickoff.

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Speaker 2: Only three. You know, if only three dogs covered this

506
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Speaker 2: whole weekend, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's absurd.

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Speaker 1: Well, it depends, it depends, because anyways, we didn't choose

509
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Speaker 1: any of those. We went all in on the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: We I mean me to the point where even professional

511
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Speaker 1: Better was worried about my sanity, because why wouldn't you

512
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Speaker 1: bet the best player in a home game in which

513
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Speaker 1: he historically dominates and covers huge numbers against a really

514
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Speaker 1: really terrible team who's got offensive turmoil and a defense

515
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Speaker 1: that hasn't been able to stop anybody all year. Oh yeah,

516
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: the Bills couldn't stop anybody. Drake May looked like Josh

517
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Speaker 1: Allen pass were five of eight on third downs, They

518
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Speaker 1: were one for one on fourth down in the first

519
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Speaker 1: half because the execu to fake punt from their own

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Speaker 1: twenty two like the Pats game seven and a half

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Speaker 1: yurs per play, it was a freaking debacle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of game. It's the best. It's the

523
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Speaker 4: dream if you bet the dog in it. Because, like

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Speaker 4: you just said, Drake May came out firing and he

525
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 4: looked ready for this game, where Josh Allen looked all

526
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Speaker 4: out of sorts. Like we talked about it, you know,

527
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Speaker 4: we tried catching on him against the Lions because we

528
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Speaker 4: knew he was gonna he was due for a bad game.

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Speaker 4: They had done something that strike, they had scored thirty

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Speaker 4: points or more eighth straight games.

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Speaker 2: Eventually goes the other way.

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Speaker 4: It's just, I mean, he is superhuman, but it's like,

533
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Speaker 4: you know, a lot of we talked about a lot

534
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Speaker 4: of the throws he was making. They were bad decisions.

535
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Speaker 4: They were working out for him because he's just that talented.

536
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Speaker 4: In this game, he just didn't get away over it right,

537
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Speaker 4: The bounces didn't go his way. They're clearly the better

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Speaker 4: team in every metric. Like when they when they wanted

539
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Speaker 4: to turn it on, they did turn it on. You know, defensively,

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Speaker 4: they completely stopped everything that Patriots had momentum wise.

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Speaker 2: I mean they were up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah fourteen early in the second quarter and they didn't

543
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Speaker 4: score another point until the very last two minutes of

544
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Speaker 4: the game. So that just shows like obviously the Bill's defense,

545
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 4: you know, it's a big worry.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about it. We know that they're they're they're

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00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: not as.

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Speaker 4: Terrible as they've looked against all these offenses last couple

549
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: of weeks, but there is something to it. Like you

550
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 4: talked earlier, in that game, Drake May was moving up

551
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 4: and down the field and they're running the ball down

552
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Speaker 4: the Bill's throat. So Josh Allen basically was the one

553
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: that screwed the end of this. Like their defense did enough,

554
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 4: they got us a defensive touchdown. You figure Josh Allen's

555
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: gonna cover that number. You know, got a little banged up,

556
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Speaker 4: but it was just at the end of the day,

557
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: he just had an off night. Like even Cook had

558
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 4: a good game running the ball like he was all about.

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00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, he just finally had a bad game. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: if he has another one, lamar noise starts becoming a

561
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Speaker 4: little more more real. Right, It's it's it's gonna get

562
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Speaker 4: a little tighter here because he does have an easy

563
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Speaker 4: schedule ending here. He's gonna go New England to Now

564
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Speaker 4: he's playing the Jets to back to New England. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: well we'll see what the injury is for Joshulling on

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Speaker 4: his hand or if it's his elbow. But tough, tough

567
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 4: bet that we lost this one, especially because every favorite cover,

568
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: Like we talked Detroit, you try to talk.

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Speaker 2: Me into Cincy.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't get there that number one from seven and

571
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Speaker 4: a half up to nine and a half by kickoff.

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Speaker 4: They got crazy lucky to cover that number. I mean

573
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Speaker 4: very lucky every little thing. I think they had two

574
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Speaker 4: or three red zone turnovers, you know, walking touchdown call

575
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Speaker 4: back on a holding for the Browns.

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Speaker 2: They go down and score a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: They didn't even need to score, right, they're trying to

578
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 4: run the clock out, they jump off.

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Speaker 2: He just throws a purflet ball to Chase.

580
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: So uh, it's just been that kind of season chat

581
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Speaker 4: where it's like, you know, we're not we're not favorite betters.

582
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Speaker 2: We've been trying to do it.

583
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Speaker 4: Even this week, I thought favorites were gonna get smoked,

584
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: like the public. They're just betting these moneyline parlays of

585
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: all these favorites and they're just cashing every week. It's crazy,

586
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 4: but they did it again. So yeah, hopefully the dog

587
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Speaker 4: that we like tonight comes through again. It's a professional side.

588
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: We've seen it cut down to three and a half

589
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 4: in a couple of books now this Cowboys line, so.

590
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Speaker 2: Still feel confident about it.

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Speaker 4: But after seeing all these Favorite stage chat it's like,

592
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Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm looking at. It's just it

593
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Speaker 4: doesn't make sense. We're in a Twilight world right now.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about week seventeen on the other

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Speaker 1: side of this read and I said before we came

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to look at this sort of

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Speaker 1: We didn't bet the Giants even though we like were like,

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Speaker 1: not take.

659
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: No.

660
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: They almost came close, man.

661
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: That is and shout out to bet three six five.

662
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: I did.

663
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: I bet on their site. I did a money line

664
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: parlay with the Colts and they paid it out early

665
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 4: and I was just so happy when the OLSNAT Titans

666
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 4: come back up and I was like, oh, the Colts

667
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 4: are going to blow this in. Anthony Richardson would eleven completions,

668
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: had a big, big third down throw.

669
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so crazy. That was a crazy game. Unfortunately,

670
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: we just couldn't pick the right favorite.

671
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, this week came down to it, right, we'd have

672
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: been three and one if we had picked the right one.

673
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 4: We both love Detroit, but once again the books are

674
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: fucking up where it's like the line was too easy.

675
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: It was six and a half all week and everyone

676
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: in their grandma was hammering that line Detroit. It was

677
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: ninety percent of the tickets, ninety percent of the bets.

678
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 4: It was like twenty to one the tickets to the

679
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 4: money was on Detroit.

680
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: What are the books doing? I don't get it. What

681
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: are they doing?

682
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 4: Like they're just killing me because it's throwing me off

683
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: or it's like that looked too good to be truly.

684
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: Even we talked about this morning. I was like, I said,

685
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: you are we the suckers taking this Detroit? Like we

686
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: always go against this? It felt too easy, and nope,

687
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: it is. It is that easy right now.

688
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: That Bears team is just totally dysfunctional.

689
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, what we said, like that Bear's team, they they're

690
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: so unprepared to start the game that you really you

691
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: can't bet them. You know, it's just too you can't

692
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: because they don't have the coaching to get them ready

693
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: for the game and they were out of it before

694
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: the game started. It was over week seventeen. There were

695
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: three games when I was looking through the Action app

696
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: at the early lines for next week.

697
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: When I was walking up to my office after the

698
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: Bill's game.

699
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: Immediately I looked at that Atlanta game plus five on

700
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: the road at Washington.

701
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: I don't know why.

702
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a sucker because I felt like the Commanders

703
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: were terrible and Pennix was awesome. But maybe this is

704
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: where it's a dead number and it's not the Eagles,

705
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: and like maybe that's the favorite we play. I'm at

706
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: a loss right now. Do you have thoughts on that?

707
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: I don't have an opinion on it, but I feel

708
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 4: like you're probably right where that line does look fishy

709
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 4: where you know, I'm assuming I'll have this model out

710
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: at three three and a half because I agree with you.

711
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: I think he looked much better than I anticipated. And

712
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: this is a tough spot though rookie second start primetime

713
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 4: game in Washington, but we expect Washington coming off that

714
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 4: win to you know, sem, I have a letdown, but

715
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: they just survived the five turnovers.

716
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

717
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: I don't know how to really read that one, but

718
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 4: interesting number to open up five for the books.

719
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a real middleman number there, middle of the

720
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: ground number, middle of the road. Having a hard time

721
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: with it. I looked at the Rams as favorites, four

722
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: point favorites against Arizona. This felt like all right, like,

723
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: now it's.

724
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: Already a five.

725
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: It's I'm seeing Jesus Christ.

726
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: I missed it already, so I was clearly on the

727
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: right side there, like because this.

728
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 2: Is a nice spot for the Rams. Yeah, I mean Kyler.

729
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 4: I don't know if Color was crying on the bench

730
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: the end of that Carolina game, but they basically found

731
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: out that they're their season's over.

732
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're done, and like here now.

733
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: La and Connor got hurt, I believe.

734
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and La is in the driver's seat. So that

735
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: looked like a good one for me. The last one

736
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: that I was.

737
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 4: Still don't mind it as long as it's under six.

738
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 4: We're right, there's no rush to bet now that's already

739
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: been hit, right.

740
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: The last one on my radar was Green Bay as

741
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: a one and a half point dog at Minnesota. I

742
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: think I think Minnesota is getting lucky right now, like

743
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: I think green Bay.

744
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 3: I look at that team. I don't know.

745
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: Why I think they're so good, but if I can

746
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: get Green Bay as a dog at any point, I

747
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: want to take them.

748
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, I was.

749
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: I was ready to jump off the green Bay train

750
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 4: because IM probably gonna d up taking them tomorrow night.

751
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: I know we have convinced me. So I don't wanna

752
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 4: give away too much because we're doing the show tomorrow.

753
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: People should check it out on YouTube. But yeah, this

754
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: this Packers team, they're gonna be everyone batting on, right

755
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 4: because I think people have your mindset. The vikings that

756
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: to me was a scheduled loss, and they still somehow

757
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: stole it there at the end, like Sam Darnold getting destroyed,

758
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 4: eating up throwing absolutely dimes down the sideline to Justin

759
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 4: Jefferson like that. The stat in the Ansler read that

760
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 4: there's been two or to Rex in NFL history to

761
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 4: go to a new team and win the more than

762
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 4: thirteen games in their first season in Sam Manning with

763
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: Denver and then Steve McNair his first year with the

764
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: Ravens and six it was like, oh, these shit, this

765
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 4: is truly a wacko world we're living in right now.

766
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: Sam Donald like, but you know what's interesting about him.

767
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: There's things that they're doing on offense that are brilliant.

768
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: There's also things that they're doing because his arm is

769
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: so freaking strong, Like he is throwing these outs across

770
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: the field from the opposite hash on a rope and

771
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 1: these are fifteen yard outs. They're not these short five

772
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: yard outs that so many guys throw now that they

773
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: can do because his arm is so good like that

774
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: is he's stone at fifty yards in the air for

775
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: fifteen yard games. It's it's pretty astonishing.

776
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously Kevin O'Connell deserves because of the year.

777
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: What this even some of this stuff, he's probably just

778
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 4: in the back of my mind, like I never would

779
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: have expected this with this kid, Like.

780
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: You know, Kat's green or whatever.

781
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see when they were reading that stat

782
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: you just said on the air. He was walking across

783
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: and he was clapping and he was like almost smirking.

784
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: He was like, got away with that one.

785
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just.

786
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: A whole predicament that they put the vikings in now

787
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: because you know, Sam Donald, this is the dream for him.

788
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: When he was coming out of college, we all knew

789
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: he had the arm talent. He was a twenty one

790
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: year old at the time, who were like, Okay, if

791
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 4: he gets reps, can figure it out.

792
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: He could be a stud in this league. And he

793
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: went through years.

794
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: Of just psychological warfare, like this guy basically got cold

795
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: on camera saying that he was seeing ghosts. Yeah, and

796
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 4: couldn't live it down for I don't even know what

797
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: was that five years, six years and his confidence level

798
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: right now, I mean there's only one person more confident.

799
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: Was saying about Sam Donald's.

800
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: Colin Cowherd, like those two guys are peak right now

801
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 4: because it's it's insane what we've seen from him this season.

802
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 4: Like even in my wild of streams, I could never

803
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 4: seen this season come from. So that's my fear right

804
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: now with this number chat is that Green Bay will

805
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: be the public side. And I think people have the

806
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 4: same entity view of this Vikings team keep getting caught

807
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: and I'm another way where I'm.

808
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: Like this has everything.

809
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 4: Everything about this has lined up for them to be

810
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 4: the one seed and then losing in their first round

811
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 4: or the second round whenever they play the Bucks or

812
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: the Eagles or somebody, because it's like you said, their

813
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 4: luck right now, and the one score games has just

814
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 4: been insane. Every one score game they somehow find a

815
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: way to win, whether it's overtime or you know, the

816
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: last minute drive by Sam Darnold and then making the

817
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 4: stop defensively, Like it's just been all clicking for this

818
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: Vikings team and it's it really is crazy at this point.

819
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: So I can't get there with you with Green Bay

820
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 4: right now, I'm a little spooked about this Vikings team.

821
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: I had the Seahawks plus three and a half and

822
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: from early nights, and I love this game for the

823
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: Seahawks at plus.

824
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 4: Another game, the books moved at two and a half

825
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: for a day and a half got slaughtered.

826
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And that's why we didn't talk about it

827
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: for the contest, like you didn't love it because it moved,

828
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: and we were both worried about Geno Smith and so

829
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: once it had gone off to three and a half.

830
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 1: But in the end, I'm like, oh shit, Gino's gonna

831
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: throw a pick six here, like an easy one. I'm

832
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna lose this fucking bet, all right, So who are

833
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: you looking at?

834
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 4: I'm grabbing Cowboys right now. It's seven and a half.

835
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: I don't know what the deal is with Hurtz. I

836
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: don't know how banged up he is. If this is

837
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 4: gonna Kenny Pickett, if they're gonna be cautious year we

838
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,959
Speaker 4: just talked about it. I don't know what the Eagles

839
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 4: are playing for at this point, Like, yes, they want

840
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 4: to win this game, but you know, we've seen time

841
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 4: and time again this rivalry. Like even when the Cowboys

842
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 4: are playing their backups, they play hard in this one.

843
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: So it's just really picking the number. It's seven and

844
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: a half me, me and Chad Hope. What happens tonight,

845
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: does happen where the Cowboys either went out right or

846
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: cover the number, This will definitely be six and a half.

847
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 4: And then if it's obviously Kenny Pickett, who knows could

848
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: be four and a half if it's Kenny Pickett and

849
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 4: keep dropping. So this is just a number I'm gonna

850
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 4: grab now just because it's a key number and there's

851
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: your so much up in the air, and I just want.

852
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: To emphasize, like that's what people need to do. We

853
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: took the Chiefs last week at two and a half,

854
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: not knowing what was going on with my homes and

855
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: it turned out to be he was playing and they

856
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: were been going away and we had the plus two

857
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: and a half from early in the week when there

858
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: was uncertainty.

859
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's just what I'm grabbing now. Again, I

860
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: don't want to hit these games too much just because

861
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: we're going through it. Ouption convince me, But yeah, in

862
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: a normal year, I would be hammering the Steelers on Christmas.

863
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: They are right now a plus two dog.

864
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: So that's another thing I don't know what to do

865
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: where it's like the simple person, the dumb guy is, well,

866
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 4: it's Mahomes under three, and you always take Mahomes under three,

867
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: and it's like, this guy's been money with the favorites

868
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 4: this year, so it's it's tough for me to fight

869
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 4: through that one. That's when we're going to break down

870
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 4: obviously more.

871
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: Well, look, here's one thing I will say, and I

872
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: said this, I'm convincing me this morning before we went

873
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: on air. What kind of world are we living in

874
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: where you can't even count on fading Mahomes as a

875
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: more than three point favorite, which you have normally been

876
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: able to do, when he's won two weeks in a

877
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: row as a more than three point favorite. And you

878
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: can't count on betting on Mike Tomlin as a underdog,

879
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: especially as a big dog in this raven Steelers rivalry,

880
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: and he's lost two weeks in a row as a

881
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: plus four and a half, plus five and a half,

882
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: plus six and a half dog. So now we've got

883
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: Rock meeting the hard place next week, where you were

884
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: dying to bet on Mahomes at under three.

885
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: Taking that's all I was about to say that I

886
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: took the two you did, yeah, because my whole thought

887
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: process is it is a Mahomes under three. And we

888
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: talked about that. Russell Wilson might have turned back into

889
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 4: a pumpkin because we.

890
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: Hasn't had George Pickens. What if he has George Pickens

891
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: this week.

892
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 2: That could be the difference.

893
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 4: But he has just made such poor decisions where they

894
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: were thriving because he was being smart protecting the ball

895
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: and not putting them in a bad position. And that's

896
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 4: he just put them in such a bad position. Look,

897
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 4: I still can't believe they cover that number. It just

898
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: totally went sideways. They're about to go up fourteen to

899
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: seven against the Ravens. He has that bad fumble and

900
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: then after that he's just chasing the rest of the game.

901
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: And that's that's not ever we want rust to be.

902
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: So again, bizarre number to hang by the books. You know,

903
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: another game that just jumps out of you know, just

904
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 4: a bizarre number of the books are hanging here early.

905
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: You can get Bengals minus three against Denver on Saturday at.

906
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: Home, So I saw that and I thought they were

907
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: what is that three? I looked at that, and I'm like,

908
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: I feel like they're playing us because Joe Burrow is

909
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: so unworldly right now, he's locked in, and so they're

910
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: looking They're like their defense is so bad. I feel

911
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: like there's a big difference between what Sean Payton will

912
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: do with bo Nix, who has played well against for

913
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: his defenses, versus what Stefanski can do with Dorian Thompson Robinson.

914
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: So I just felt like they were inflating that a

915
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: little bit more than they ship that. I felt like

916
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: they were trying to suck me in.

917
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: That's fair.

918
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: It was just it was just another game that jumped

919
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: out to me where it's like, these lines are interesting,

920
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 4: They're hanging here because you're right, gut instinct.

921
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 2: Is just to bet this. Yeah, I could see it being.

922
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: Three and a half in us being on Denverse. You're right,

923
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: I won't have to rush to this one. That was

924
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 4: definitely a favor that opened up that called my attention.

925
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: Here's another one we just talked about. Josh Allen might

926
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 4: be a little banged up jets or plus ten. I

927
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: know it's too raw right now. Oh God, I'm just

928
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 4: gonna grab it just because it is plus ten, Like

929
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: that's that's a huge number for a Josh Allen that

930
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: might be a little banged up. But like this, this

931
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: him having back to back bad games that I'm not

932
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 4: betting on. So that's that's issue where it's like, I'm

933
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: not going to force us to put this one in.

934
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 4: It's just about playing this number just in case Josh

935
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 4: Allen is banged up, if he has a brace on

936
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: his finger or his elbow, whatever, another team that it

937
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: might be all locked up for this game. The Chiefs

938
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: might beat Pittsburgh Chad and they might not really be

939
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 4: playing for anything at that point. So there's just another

940
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: number I'm gonna play like the Cowboys, just in case

941
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: it does move.

942
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: If anyone can find a way to screw it up.

943
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: It's Aaron Rodgers and Jeff obrah that's fair. Anyone else

944
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: was at it, No.

945
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 4: Because there's like favorites. I like that, Like I'm gonna

946
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 4: say it for our show. Just I'm just worried I'm

947
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: just suggesting too much here. But Detroit's minus three and

948
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 4: a half against the forty niners. The forty nine ers

949
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: look like they quit a years ago. Usually I have

950
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 4: fadom on that number, but it's just.

951
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: A bad line.

952
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 4: And Miami's right now is minus six against Cleveland. I

953
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: kind of want to take Cleveland there, but I feel

954
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: like I'm getting sucked in once again where it's like, no,

955
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 4: go Miami. But it's just it might be cold as

956
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: hell in Cleveland, and now it's two at a six

957
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 4: six point favorite on the road in cold ass Cleveland.

958
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: I take that number right now.

959
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: I looked.

960
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: I didn't think about Detroit because it felt like because

961
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: that game's in San Francisco, right, Yeah, Yeah, it felt

962
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: like someone's trying to fuck me on.

963
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 2: That and it always feels that way.

964
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Miami today was six and a half.

965
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: Right, But that's the problem is like we're looking at

966
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: favorites and the book is posting these numbers knowing that

967
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: they're sucking us in and it doesn't matter because they

968
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: keep losing and we keep ignoring them and the public

969
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: keeps winning.

970
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 3: Like the public.

971
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: Favorites today were the Bills, who of course we faded,

972
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: uh we took, and the Bengals who covered, and the

973
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: third team was Detroit. I looked at Miami minus six,

974
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna want to play Miami against Cleveland,

975
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, well, shoot, it's to in the cold.

976
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: And now we're just overthinking it. So look, there's a

977
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: lot to unpack. I think I think the best idea

978
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: is take the Rams. Take Dallas plus seven and a half,

979
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: because we don't know what happened with her. It's like,

980
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: get the good number. I like your idea for Kansas

981
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: City minus two, but it makes me a little nervous.

982
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,760
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