WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Cardinals Ready To Shuffle Deck

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<v Speaker 1>Stramp on the boots and scrape up the knuckles.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold ahead, he got jacked.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

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<v Speaker 3>and Gilbert Parry's.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna score touchdown slim to the ground by Buddha Banker.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a torpedo, he keeps flying into the backfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Red Seats, Rising Up.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, you're rising Vision Flurry Rage, tack it Ober. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>Paul CALVICI.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm one hundred percent ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 6>And Ron Woolfley, it doesn't get any better than that,

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<v Speaker 6>Ron Wolfley, have you been following the headlines in the

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<v Speaker 6>last twenty four hours, of course, Paul, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 6>Mike Tyson can fight Jake Paul, if zach Ertz can

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<v Speaker 6>rejoin Cliff Kingsbury in Washington, if the Broncos can take

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<v Speaker 6>an eighty five million dollar dead money cap, hit because

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<v Speaker 6>of a quarterback named Russell Wilson who reportedly is gonna

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<v Speaker 6>meet soon with the Steelers. According to the headlines whow

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<v Speaker 6>if Good Morning Football, NFL Network and all of a

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<v Speaker 6>sudden moved from New York City to LA which was

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<v Speaker 6>announced earlier today and moments ago, if cornerback Quinyon Mitchell

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<v Speaker 6>can post video of him squatting five oh five for

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<v Speaker 6>five reps again a cornerback, then of course we can

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<v Speaker 6>do the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 6>We are santan Ford, Paul Kelby c you're Ron Wolfley there.

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<v Speaker 1>PAULI have everything you just said right there. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>get the image of Russell Wilson and Mike t out

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<v Speaker 1>of my head right now. Very very interesting combination right there.

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<v Speaker 6>All you have to do is call your older brother,

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<v Speaker 6>who happens to be the Steelers analyst if you want

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<v Speaker 6>an intel on that one. So all right, there you go. Look,

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<v Speaker 6>everything is moving, and pretty soon about this time next week,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll have a lot of official headlines out there. For example,

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<v Speaker 6>reportedly Greg Dorch not much negotiating their exclusive rights free agent,

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<v Speaker 6>so they went and tendered him reportedly one point one

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<v Speaker 6>to two million. I mean, that is a deal for

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<v Speaker 6>Greg dort It could be your starting slot right now

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<v Speaker 6>over Rondale Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he definitely could. One of the things I love

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<v Speaker 1>most about Greg dors PAULI I believe he is a

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<v Speaker 1>football player. First, he's a football player. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>used to talk about an kwam Bolden. Of course, on

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<v Speaker 1>how an kwam Bolden could have played multiple positions. You

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<v Speaker 1>could have lined him up at the weak side inside

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker and he would have been Joss fine, yep, could

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<v Speaker 1>have held up just fine as the week's inside I

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<v Speaker 1>look at Greg Dorch and no, you couldn't line him

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<v Speaker 1>up as the weak side inside linebacker. Of course, his

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<v Speaker 1>size is an issue, but man, his heart, he is

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<v Speaker 1>a football player through and through. It's not surprising the

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals have dealt with Greg Dortch.

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<v Speaker 6>I said to Greg late in the season, I said,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, on the air about you, I mentioned when

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<v Speaker 6>you live on the edge of a roster, you play

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<v Speaker 6>with an edge. Is that accurate?

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<v Speaker 2>He said?

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<v Speaker 6>No, doubt absolutely was his response. Yes, look at some

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<v Speaker 6>of his closing games. I mean at Chicago he had

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<v Speaker 6>the thirty eight yard touchdown catch and run right. He

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<v Speaker 6>had that forty yard kickoff return in the Chicago game.

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<v Speaker 6>At Philly, he had an one hundred and eighty five

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<v Speaker 6>all purpose yards between the return game and receiving. So,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean he took the month of December and January,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think he proved amanioci for and Jonathan Gannon

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<v Speaker 6>he's got a role in this team.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're right about that, Pauli. It's very interesting what

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<v Speaker 1>you just said right there too. I mean, every time

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<v Speaker 1>I took the field, I knew, oh my goodness, you

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<v Speaker 1>better come out here, you better ball out or you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in trouble. I mean, the desperation that

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<v Speaker 1>I had, it was easy to generate. Let's put it

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<v Speaker 1>that way. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Here, here's a guy, Greg Dort who was cut seven

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<v Speaker 6>times his first three years in the league. So now,

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<v Speaker 6>as for Xavi and Collins, what are we expecting there

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<v Speaker 6>in terms of the contract situation is fifth year option

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<v Speaker 6>is going to need to be decided sometime in May.

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<v Speaker 6>He would be due thirteen point two million plus, So

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think there's a lot of optimism out there

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<v Speaker 6>at that number that the fifth year option will be

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<v Speaker 6>picked up. Here's Mania Sapport just asked about Xavion Collins

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<v Speaker 6>game going into next year after he just made the

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<v Speaker 6>position switch from inside to outside linebacker.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought Zavon had a good year for us last year.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we did.

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<v Speaker 4>We went through a transition with him just positionally got

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<v Speaker 4>back to some things that he did in Tulsa coming

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<v Speaker 4>out of college, and so, you know, I thought zavan

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<v Speaker 4>made a lot of great strites throughout the season, was

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<v Speaker 4>out there for us, a lot of snaps played the

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<v Speaker 4>whole year, and you know, I think with him, as

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<v Speaker 4>with all of our players, I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>we expect to see a jump from year one to

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<v Speaker 4>year two, his comfort level, just getting more use to

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<v Speaker 4>the position.

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<v Speaker 6>What's interesting is, I think a number of people on

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<v Speaker 6>this staff, the new set of decision makers, really saw

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<v Speaker 6>him coming out of Tulsa as an edge guy. Yeah, now,

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<v Speaker 6>how do you see his future because we've seen him

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<v Speaker 6>both inside and outside linebacker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Paul, I actually thought he was making strides as

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<v Speaker 1>an inside mike linebacker. I thought he was making strides

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<v Speaker 1>right there, and then of course the decision was to

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<v Speaker 1>move them to the outside. And you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to trust these coaches and the skill set that has shown.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the acumen, the football acumen that has shown.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to trust that these guys know what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that they're doing moving Zavian out to the edge,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, to me, once again, it made an

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<v Speaker 1>awful lot of sense. I just don't know if they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick up that option. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I this is just me guessing. I think it's working

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<v Speaker 1>against Saban Collins and it bothers me because if there's

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<v Speaker 1>one dude that I absolutely love on the team at Saban.

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<v Speaker 6>No doubt about that. So look, it's about the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 6>It's about getting to the quarterback. And then number three,

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<v Speaker 6>I would contend it's about protecting thy quarterback. And that

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<v Speaker 6>brings us to DJ Humphries, who went down late in

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<v Speaker 6>the year with a knee injury. In fact, here was

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<v Speaker 6>Manias support at the podium at the Combine and he

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<v Speaker 6>was asked about last year's starting left tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>It was too bad and unfortunate for Hump. Just you

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<v Speaker 4>know the timing of the injury and you know when

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<v Speaker 4>it happened, and you know it's it's a difficult situation.

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<v Speaker 4>So all I can say is that Hump's been in

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<v Speaker 4>the facility every day he is, he's grinding through rehab

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<v Speaker 4>and he's I know, he's going to put himself in

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<v Speaker 4>the best position to get himself ready to play. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a tough situation. Again, it goes back to the unfortunate

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<v Speaker 4>nature of injuries and football, and you know, I know

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<v Speaker 4>Hump's going to do everything that he can do to

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<v Speaker 4>get himself back out on the field.

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<v Speaker 6>Longest tenured Cardinal d J. Humpries, He used to have

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<v Speaker 6>his name on this show, The Big Red Race Age

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<v Speaker 6>once again, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. How do

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<v Speaker 6>you see his future? Not only is he coming off

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<v Speaker 6>his second torn acl but he's down for a big

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<v Speaker 6>number under the cap next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Paully, you know once again, and if you just

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Moni ascin for it right there, he's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about timing, you know, the timing of this injury and

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<v Speaker 1>it was really bad, and he's talking about how tough

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<v Speaker 1>the situation is right here, and he's talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>being unfortunate of course, and I think all of that

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<v Speaker 1>it's all obvious and it's indications that you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a difficult decision. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals are going to have if, in fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals were a rebuilt, if this was a team

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to go out and compete for not

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<v Speaker 1>only a playoff position, but compete for a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>If this rebuild was done and that injury happened to him,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any doubt in my mind they'd

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<v Speaker 1>try to bring him back seriously at some point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're going to have to rework the contract, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think they would try to bring them back

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in time. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the case. I just don't know, because

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<v Speaker 1>of the rebuild and how new the rebuild is. What

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<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts on that, bot, Well.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree with all that, and I would add two

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<v Speaker 6>other factors. Number One, the guy who took number six overall,

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<v Speaker 6>Paris Johnson Junior, has the ability to play left tackle.

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<v Speaker 6>And in terms of this draft, where you have two

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<v Speaker 6>first round picks and a high second round pick, this

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<v Speaker 6>is an epic historic draft for offensive tackles. In fact,

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<v Speaker 6>some say it's going to break the all time record

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<v Speaker 6>which was set a few years back when seven tackles

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<v Speaker 6>were taken in Round one they say there might be

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<v Speaker 6>eight right now, Daniel Jeremiah has six in his top twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>That's just of all prospects, just based on prospects, forget

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<v Speaker 6>about draft order. And we know how teams value offensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Any you think about it right there, Paully, what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, Yes, why do they value offensive tackles because

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<v Speaker 1>there are guys who are incredible athletes that these scouts

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<v Speaker 1>are searched all over the world to bring these guys

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<v Speaker 1>and players in that can actually come off the edge

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<v Speaker 1>and do incredible things. To get to a quarterback, you

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<v Speaker 1>need offensive linemen, of course, to protect that quarterback. In

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<v Speaker 1>today's NFL, how much of passing the football actually goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>We all understand that you've got to protect that quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and we all know tackles are at a premium, all right.

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<v Speaker 6>So DJ Humphries recently was on Justin Pugh's podcast, Former

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<v Speaker 6>Cardinals Starting Left Guard Right the net Worth Podcast with

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<v Speaker 6>Justin Peughe shouldn't surprise anyone who insert him on air.

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<v Speaker 6>He's great and the two of them were chopping it

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<v Speaker 6>up and Justin Pugh was asking d J Humpries, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>how's he doing coming off the knee surgery, and then

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<v Speaker 6>they started talking about Paris Johnson as well.

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<v Speaker 7>I was at breakfast with and my wife the other

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<v Speaker 7>day and I saw and I look up to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like his little brother.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, all right, mister Giants, all right, mister Johnson,

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<v Speaker 7>if you you need help with anything, just let me know,

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<v Speaker 7>let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here to.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean that starts making me think, like, man, I

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<v Speaker 6>gotta get my ass out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the league.

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<v Speaker 8>I've never met a rookie like this dude, Like especially

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<v Speaker 8>in a rookie office in Lineman where it is how

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<v Speaker 8>he is on the field and actually being ready to

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<v Speaker 8>play on the field, like the guy that he is

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<v Speaker 8>with the helmet all and how he is off the field.

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<v Speaker 8>He's like like, I don't know they made this dude

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<v Speaker 8>in the lab also like this is he's one of

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<v Speaker 8>those guys. It's like, how do you how are you

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<v Speaker 8>good at everything?

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<v Speaker 2>Again?

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<v Speaker 6>D J Humphreys there with Justin Pugh on Justin Pugh's podcast,

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<v Speaker 6>and hey, d Jumpries and Paris Johnson were tight. I

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<v Speaker 6>mean they they they were seen around each other all

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<v Speaker 6>the time on the sideline on game day in the facility.

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<v Speaker 6>So hopefully a lot of what d J Jumprees has

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<v Speaker 6>done over his eight years in the league rubbed off

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<v Speaker 6>on Paris Johnson Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for me, it's one of the reasons why I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to have DJ Humphreys around Paris Johnson Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, once again is he's rehabbing that knee. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>having DJ around just to be able to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Paris Johnson Junior and have Paris Johnson Junior be able

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<v Speaker 1>to confide in DJ humphreyes, he's got a lot of wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>DJ.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, PAULI, he's a dog. He's a dog,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love the dog in him and I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to see Paris Johnson Junior adopt that dogship if you will.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what, You're absolutely right on game day, those

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<v Speaker 6>two guys are two different people. I mean, during the

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<v Speaker 6>week they're really engaging, the very personable high IQ guys.

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<v Speaker 6>But on game day, like you get out of the way,

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<v Speaker 6>like they have a different look in their eyes down

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<v Speaker 6>on the sideline.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the kind of guy you want.

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<v Speaker 6>And by the way, d Jemfrey says he's about a

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<v Speaker 6>couple of weeks away from getting off the crutches, so

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<v Speaker 6>he's making good progress.

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<v Speaker 2>In the rehab.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, we continue start talking about the draft next

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<v Speaker 6>and the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 2>Daily Habits. I call it winning behavior.

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<v Speaker 7>Can you display winning behavior consistently day after day after day?

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<v Speaker 7>And we have ways to define that. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 7>not a perfect science, so we know that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I think we got good enough people in the building

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<v Speaker 7>that know how to find that information out, starting with

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<v Speaker 7>our scouts. Our road scouts done a great job. They're

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<v Speaker 7>giving us kind of the background of these guys for

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<v Speaker 7>the course of one, two, three, four years, even dating

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<v Speaker 7>back to high school. They've done a really good job

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<v Speaker 7>with that. And then we'll take all that information and

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<v Speaker 7>then we'll talk to them and talk to them some more,

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<v Speaker 7>and talk to them some more and then put the

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<v Speaker 7>card in.

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<v Speaker 6>MANI there go Cardinals that coach Jonathan again and just

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<v Speaker 6>talking about the process. Cardinals with an NFL high eleven

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<v Speaker 6>picks in an absolutely loaded draft. I mean, like Wolfe's

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<v Speaker 6>dessert plate. This is absolutely loaded this year. I mean

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<v Speaker 6>Cardinals have eleven picks and I want more. Honestly, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>trade out of number four, give me some more picks.

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<v Speaker 6>We got so many guys, it's so many different positions

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<v Speaker 6>in need.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so interesting, Bully, because that is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the one of the tactics that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the best teams in the National Football League use. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just number of draft picks. They just want guys that

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<v Speaker 1>they can pick and bring them in. Because the more

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<v Speaker 1>guys you can actually bring in and know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing them in by using those draft picks, the better

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<v Speaker 1>chance you got that they're gonna they're gonna pan out ball,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be players. And the Baltimore Ravens they use

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<v Speaker 1>that tactic right there. It's not gonna surprise me at

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<v Speaker 1>all if we continue to see Manti asin Ford collect

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks over the years.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, as the GMS like to say speaking to

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<v Speaker 6>many Asin for for all the research you do, all

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<v Speaker 6>the investigating, all the film work, and the scouting going

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<v Speaker 6>all the way back to high school. It's still ultimately

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<v Speaker 6>people evaluating people, so there's going to be a margin

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<v Speaker 6>of error. So to your point, yes, more picks enhances

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<v Speaker 6>your chances, There's no doubt about it. You had a

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<v Speaker 6>chance earlier day on or to talk with mel kiper Junior,

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<v Speaker 6>the legend himself, and it was interesting. You know, I

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<v Speaker 6>think the sleeper position. And we're gonna get momentarily here

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<v Speaker 6>to Charles Davis at the combine with Danny Surrek and

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<v Speaker 6>Craig Grielou, but I think the sleeper position because there's

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<v Speaker 6>so much talk about tackle. We already talked about that

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<v Speaker 6>receiver obviously is ridiculously deep and talented, but that cornerback position.

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<v Speaker 6>And he even threw out a name with you Wolf,

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<v Speaker 6>I'd never even heard of TJ. Tampa out of Iowa State. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>six ' two, over two hundred pounds, ridiculously athletics. So

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<v Speaker 6>I mean there's like a top six of corners. And

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<v Speaker 6>then add that guy into the mix, and then we

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<v Speaker 6>know Jonathan Gannon's affinity. That's the position he coached, and

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<v Speaker 6>the Cardinals have a need at cornerback.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Paul, And not only that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was interesting because I asked him who

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest killer in the draft was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you actually heard that question, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>right fresh my memory, Well it was it was Ederan

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper on the defensive side of the ball. Yes, Egirin

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Man. That blew my mind right there. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard a lot about Edgrian Cooper.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 1>But six y three, two hundred and thirty pounds of course,

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<v Speaker 1>playing with the Aggies Texas, A and M. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>Edgerd Cooper is maybe the nastiest, toughest, dirtiest And when

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<v Speaker 1>he said that, he meant that in a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside linebacker coming out in this draft, the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>they also moved to the edge.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and I know what we're all thinking at.

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<v Speaker 1>That point in time, but miss it just doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be that way, Polly right, that's of course. And

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<v Speaker 1>Hassan Reddick, yes, I think other people, yes, will be

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of but Edred Cooper, I thought that was cool.

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<v Speaker 6>It'd be the versus Son Reddick, or you could think

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<v Speaker 6>of it as a Zavan Collins right inside to outside. Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>But it's funny because Rob Frederickson on the Red Sea

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<v Speaker 6>Report came in this week and he cited the inside

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<v Speaker 6>linebacker from A and M as a guy that he

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<v Speaker 6>really like. So what it's talking about, we're still learning

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<v Speaker 6>about guys in this draft. So with that being the case,

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<v Speaker 6>let's go out to Indianapolis this past week and Cardinals

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<v Speaker 6>cover to once again Danny Surrett, Craig Grielttle. They're talking

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<v Speaker 6>about Charles Davis from CBS and Danny started by asking

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<v Speaker 6>about Kyler Murray and how you build around a franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>Quarterback for this offense.

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<v Speaker 9>Kyler Murray his game to elevate immediately. In your opinion,

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<v Speaker 9>should the Cardinals prioritize the trenches or do you look

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<v Speaker 9>for a playmaker, especially with look, it's a deep rookie

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<v Speaker 9>cass for tackles and wide receivers. It certainly is how

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<v Speaker 9>you make a decision.

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<v Speaker 10>It's a tough one, right, It's a tough one. So

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<v Speaker 10>let's go back and go through some recent history in

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<v Speaker 10>the NFL. Let's go to Detroit. They took Piney Sewuel

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<v Speaker 10>and played him at right tackle because they had Taylor

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<v Speaker 10>Decker at left tackle. That worked for Detroit. Let's go

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<v Speaker 10>to Cincinnati. Should it be Seul or should it be

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<v Speaker 10>Jamar Chase? They chose Chase that worked out. I think

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<v Speaker 10>it's a it's a matter of what montiasen Ford is

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<v Speaker 10>your GM. Jonathan Ganza head coach, and the rest of

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<v Speaker 10>the scouting department determines when they put that board up,

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<v Speaker 10>where the value is and how they rate those players.

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<v Speaker 10>Some people think I can get away with a little

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<v Speaker 10>bit lesser left tackle because I have a quarterback and

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<v Speaker 10>makes quick decisions. He can run and move that playmaker out.

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<v Speaker 10>Why it's going to give me a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 10>Others believe I got to have my quarterback protected. I

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<v Speaker 10>need to left tackle and what have you? Picking where

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<v Speaker 10>you're picking because I made some notes on this sitting

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<v Speaker 10>there at four. The receiver might be more value for

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<v Speaker 10>you at four than the tackle would be, because I

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<v Speaker 10>think you can get a very similar tackle down the road.

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<v Speaker 10>But that receiver if you really covet him. And by

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<v Speaker 10>the way, you might get first bite at Marvin Harrison

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<v Speaker 10>because the first three off the board could easily be quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 10>You may have that decision right there staring at you,

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<v Speaker 10>and I have to say, if you get to first

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<v Speaker 10>bite at Marvin Harrison, it'd be hard to turn that down.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people look at that wide receiver class.

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<v Speaker 5>Those top three names, whether it's Marvin Harris, the League Neighbors, Duns,

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<v Speaker 5>they're all number one or projected to be number one

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<v Speaker 5>wide receivers. How do you differentiate whether one is better

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<v Speaker 5>than another or is a better fit for a particular team?

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<v Speaker 2>Beauties, and I the.

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<v Speaker 10>Beholder, right, and each team has to determine all that.

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<v Speaker 10>I have Harrison at the top, but that's not an

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<v Speaker 10>original thought. We all have and we have for a while.

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<v Speaker 10>He's been that projected guy for a while. Has everything

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<v Speaker 10>you're looking for. And just watch his ability to catch

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<v Speaker 10>short ones, turn them up field, catch the long one late, hands,

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<v Speaker 10>go up and get it, run the intermediate route, present

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<v Speaker 10>that big body, good frame, go and get the football.

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<v Speaker 10>Really like that, But all the others have that as well.

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<v Speaker 10>Here's the interesting part. My League Neighbors, I know, is

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<v Speaker 10>coach at LSU very well. Do you remember when the

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<v Speaker 10>Bolitnikoff Award came out and Neighbors didn't win it and

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<v Speaker 10>he was really upset lost it by like a voter too,

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<v Speaker 10>it's really close vote. He was really upset about the

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<v Speaker 10>whole thing. Was actually vocal. You don't hear that very

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<v Speaker 10>often with those types of Awards. So I talked to

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<v Speaker 10>his coach about it, and he said, that's just another

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<v Speaker 10>chip for him. Like this guy just he just munches

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<v Speaker 10>these perceived slights. Its kind of Jordan Eskin like he

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<v Speaker 10>can create these things, he said, he just he said,

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<v Speaker 10>you guys just took him to another level that way.

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<v Speaker 10>And the kicker to the whole thing is the guy

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<v Speaker 10>a guy who's not gonna be listed at the top

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<v Speaker 10>of the board, but it's gonna be a really good

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<v Speaker 10>receiver later is neighbors teammate at LSU, Brian Thomas, and

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<v Speaker 10>Brian Thomas is one of those guys that you can

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<v Speaker 10>play any position in the wide receiver tray and he'll

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<v Speaker 10>produce there. But he doesn't even have to practice them.

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<v Speaker 10>He can get the lineup, he can get the game

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<v Speaker 10>plan at a snap, tell you what every the other

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<v Speaker 10>ten are doing on any given play. And I think

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<v Speaker 10>that there's another level to his game that's still left,

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<v Speaker 10>but you gotta project it and you gotta believe it's

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<v Speaker 10>going to go there, which you're getting from the front

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<v Speaker 10>three is you're already seeing that, and that's why they're

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<v Speaker 10>at the top of the board.

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<v Speaker 9>Cardinals defense finished bottom tier statistically could use help in

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<v Speaker 9>the trenches everywhere everywhere. When you're looking at this draft class,

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<v Speaker 9>you're thinking about d lineman or top cornerback, how do

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<v Speaker 9>you prioritize what might have the most significant trickle down

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<v Speaker 9>effect for the Cardinals maybe even in free agency to address.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you're exactly right, and Danny, when you get into

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<v Speaker 10>all this, now we're into that same discussion we had

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<v Speaker 10>about the tackle versus the wide receiver, except on the

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<v Speaker 10>defensive side of the ball. Because I've grown up in

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<v Speaker 10>my nearly sixty years on this earth, start inside out.

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<v Speaker 10>I want the trenches taken care of, and everything else goes.

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<v Speaker 10>It wasn't that long ago. Remember when Denzel Ward came

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<v Speaker 10>out out of Ohio State and went to Cleveland at

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<v Speaker 10>number four. They took him instead of Bradley Chubb, the

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<v Speaker 10>pass rushold of NC State, which seemed like a seismic

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<v Speaker 10>change in philosophy. And at the time it was prioritized

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<v Speaker 10>because I think Greg Williams was a decoordinator in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 10>and he's like, nowadays, the ball's out of quarterback's hands

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<v Speaker 10>so fast that the cover guys actually become even more valuable.

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<v Speaker 10>Now some people believe it. Some people don't, oh the

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<v Speaker 10>ANNIVERSI of Madi asin Fort and his crew believe because

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<v Speaker 10>we're talking about picking it for But you got a

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<v Speaker 10>bunch of other picks. Twenty seven right deep draft all

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<v Speaker 10>the way through offensive tackles, wide receivers, a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>defensive backs, but mainly at the corner, not the safety position.

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<v Speaker 10>So that's going to be the interesting part to see

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<v Speaker 10>where they see they decide to go. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 10>the linebackers this year a good crop linebackers, but I

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<v Speaker 10>don't expect a single linebacker going to first round.

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<v Speaker 6>There you go, Charles Davis twenty twenty four, combine Danny Surrett,

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<v Speaker 6>Craig Gariolu on site in Indianapolis. With that interview, let's

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<v Speaker 6>go back to the very beginning where his reasoning was

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<v Speaker 6>receiver versus tackle. At number four. There's the big three receivers,

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<v Speaker 6>but there might be the Big six or Big eight tackles.

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<v Speaker 6>Because of that, you go receiver at number four.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Paully, Well, we've talked about this before in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and once again, I do believe Marvin Harrison Junior is

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<v Speaker 1>a generational talent. And if you believe this guy is

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to be seen in the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>of drafts or longer than that, because he's that specially,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got everything. He checks every box. Paul, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you got to pull the trigger on that right there,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's a huge need for your franchise

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and Kyler Murray in terms of getting that wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver who can actually go out there and make plays

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<v Speaker 1>for him. You want to help protect your quarterback, protect

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<v Speaker 1>him with an offensive line, of course, but you also

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<v Speaker 1>have to protect him by providing him options in which

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<v Speaker 1>that ball comes out quickly.

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<v Speaker 6>And look, you said it, you're in the danger zone

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<v Speaker 6>when it comes to Marvin Harrison.

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<v Speaker 2>Ju I love him.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And you know what, I have no problem with

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<v Speaker 6>the generational receiver. I tend to think Roma Dunesay's a

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<v Speaker 6>little closer than most thing. And then you see an

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<v Speaker 6>NFL dot Com mock draft come out after the combine,

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<v Speaker 6>Lance zer Line, who Danny and Craig also talked to,

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<v Speaker 6>and he had quarterbacks going one, two, three in the

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<v Speaker 6>Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 2>The number four going.

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<v Speaker 6>Receiver Malik Neighbors Lsu. So it's amazing the sort of

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<v Speaker 6>mind blow that is out there, and then it's so deep.

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<v Speaker 6>You got guys like Xavier Worthy with a four to

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<v Speaker 6>two one, and then you have dudes with size and speed.

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<v Speaker 6>Ad Mitchell out of Texas, Brian Thomas out of LSU,

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<v Speaker 6>Ricky Piersall, the local kid ran a four four one.

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<v Speaker 6>Keon Coleman is a stud. Troy Franklin, the number one

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<v Speaker 6>receiver at Oregon, is six ' to two and a burner.

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<v Speaker 6>So it is really deep at those positions.

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<v Speaker 1>Save you're worthy four to one. Kansas City Chiefs getum?

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<v Speaker 1>How about you want about? Yeah, the Chiefs gettum.

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<v Speaker 6>They're calling him a taller Hollywood Brown. We'll get into

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<v Speaker 6>that a little bit later. That's our uh, that's our

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<v Speaker 6>mention here on The Big Red Rage. By the way,

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<v Speaker 6>We continue to get your coverage from the combine Manti

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<v Speaker 6>asin Ford. Next on The Big Red Rage, presented by

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<v Speaker 6>Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>Pitch to Connor, running Left Gotta cree at the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>up to the thirty five and down at the thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a couple of offensive lineman out there, including the center,

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<v Speaker 1>yelled to pro Hols.

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<v Speaker 2>Man you see, yelled the fro Holt. Wait down the

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<v Speaker 2>veetle making a block. Good job up there.

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<v Speaker 11>Fro Hold was way downfield blocking Cardinals again after the play,

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<v Speaker 11>pushing and shoving.

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<v Speaker 2>Pro Hold, what's in there? Throwing hands? You like that? Wolf? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You got dog right, that's all I get? Wolf Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>pro Holt throwing hands.

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<v Speaker 6>Give me a little love on that that Hi, Dave

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<v Speaker 6>Pash campaigning for some love up there in the booth,

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<v Speaker 6>and Ron Wolfley yelled a fro Holt, the desert Viking, right,

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<v Speaker 6>magnus ver fro Holt. We threw out there because he

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<v Speaker 6>has all that gym equipment in there, the Atlas stones

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<v Speaker 6>like the world's strongest man feats his strength on his

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<v Speaker 6>own block. As he pointed out to us in the

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<v Speaker 6>Big Red Rage once upon a time, speaking of Paul

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<v Speaker 6>kelvc Ron Wolfley. Here we are talking about free agents, see,

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<v Speaker 6>yelled de fro Holt. Last offseason, Wolf, did you like

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<v Speaker 6>the return on investment from a guy who started every

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<v Speaker 6>single game? Darn near played every single snap as your

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<v Speaker 6>starting center.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I absolutely loved it. PAULI once again yelled a

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<v Speaker 1>fro Holt is a guy that not only knows what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that he's doing, but a guy that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go out there and do it on every play.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to give you everything he's got on every play.

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<v Speaker 1>And Paul, he moves so much better than what I

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<v Speaker 1>would expect. When you look at a man his size

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<v Speaker 1>and you watch him run, it's really surprising how smooth

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<v Speaker 1>he is.

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<v Speaker 2>And he pancaked.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say three four guys last season on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these screens the Arizona Cardinals would run,

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<v Speaker 1>He get out in front of the receiver or the

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<v Speaker 1>running back and just pancake. Somebody did an incredible job

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<v Speaker 1>at that. So yeah, he is definitely one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite guys, Pauli.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't have the number four rank rushing game and

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<v Speaker 6>number two in the league in yards per carry as

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<v Speaker 6>a run game without a stout and Yeldafroholt really was

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<v Speaker 6>a joy to watch the entire season. But once again,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I think I think that's the caliber a

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<v Speaker 6>free agent you're going after as opposed to the big

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<v Speaker 6>names getting the ultra big money.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 6>A Christian Wilkins is out there, Could the Cardinals use that, Sure,

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<v Speaker 6>but he's probably gonna get ridiculous money from someone. Danil

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<v Speaker 6>Hunter potentially could be a target if you're looking for

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<v Speaker 6>an edge guy, you know. And then if you if

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<v Speaker 6>you're into cornerbacks, because you probably need two starting quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 6>right Jalen Johnson today from the Bears got four years

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<v Speaker 6>seventy six, forty four guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>And then there are some big names who have been

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<v Speaker 6>let go out on the open market. Xavian Howard, Darius Williams,

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<v Speaker 6>J C. Jackson, Tredavius White.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tredavius White, you got my attention right there. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's gonna take an awful lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>to sign a guy like Tredavius White.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The Buffalo Bills, you have to wonder based on all

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<v Speaker 1>the moves they made releasing Jordan Poyer and Moore says,

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<v Speaker 1>well they're starting center. Yeah, you have to wonder, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>they think their window is closed. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to wonder right now, is the Super Bowl window closed?

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<v Speaker 2>Yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they feel very very confident in some of the

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>guys they have coming up behind those guys and having

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<v Speaker 1>said all of that, Polly once again, man, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>about guys that are out there that you can afford

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<v Speaker 1>because Manti asin Ford, as you well know, he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be prudent when it comes to the money. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to pay these guys.

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<v Speaker 6>And I know you saw Avonte Maddox from the cornerback

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<v Speaker 6>from Philadelphia. He was released, so you know, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 6>a possibility, maybe that second tier up corner. Jonathan Gannon

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<v Speaker 6>obviously knows him very well, so we'll monitor that. And

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<v Speaker 6>by the way, speaking of the Bill's cornerbacks of their dbs,

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<v Speaker 6>the famous picture Hal Murray of DeAndre Hopkins with a

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<v Speaker 6>game winner right over the three Bills dbs, all three

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<v Speaker 6>of those guys were just released this week, So how's

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<v Speaker 6>that for fate?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's also right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just want to go back quickly though, to

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<v Speaker 1>Avonte Maddox because here's a guy. He's five nine, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty five pounds paully okay, so eighty nine pounds. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't see a guy that has that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>height challenge for the most part playing it at corner

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. And yet I think if he moved him

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<v Speaker 1>to the inside to the number three corner of the

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<v Speaker 1>nickel corner a lot. I think that'd be an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>match with his defense and that being Nick Rowlis of

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<v Speaker 1>course and JG. Would they be interested in Avonte Maddox,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but again we have seen this before

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<v Speaker 1>interest from these guys in regard to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>players that the Philadelphia Eagles have let go or have

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to hit free agency. Kaiser White of course comes

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<v Speaker 1>to mind right now. But that is something I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should watch because if I were a Vonte Maddox,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just and I listen. I may be the

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<v Speaker 1>number four corner if I'm Avonte Maddox, but if there's

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<v Speaker 1>any interest whatsoever, man, I'd want to go play four

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>coaches that know who I am and know what I

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<v Speaker 1>can bring to a team, and if in fact they

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<v Speaker 1>have a good relationship with Maddox, I'd be and ten

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<v Speaker 1>up on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And by the way, another smaller dB, one of our

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<v Speaker 6>favorite all time former Cardinals, Tyron Matthew inc d a

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<v Speaker 6>two year, thirteen million dollar extension with New Orleans, so

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<v Speaker 6>it'd be going into season number twelve. He had four

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<v Speaker 6>picks last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Glorie Badger.

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<v Speaker 6>How about that so many Austin four was at the

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<v Speaker 6>combine obviously, and our Danny Serek was there. They were

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<v Speaker 6>talking about the draft, free agency and more.

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<v Speaker 9>Year two at the helm for you, what's one lesson

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<v Speaker 9>learned from last year's combine? That's just the way you

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<v Speaker 9>are evaluating this time around.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think I think really the biggest you know,

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<v Speaker 4>improvement that we've been able to make is everybody has

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<v Speaker 4>been through one of these together, so we all know

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the direction that we're going, just the processes

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<v Speaker 4>and what we're trying to get out of these meetings,

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<v Speaker 4>what we're trying to get from the coaching staff out

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<v Speaker 4>of the combine. Our scouts are now through their second combine,

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<v Speaker 4>and really it's helped the continuity, it's helped the flow,

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 4>it's helped you know, last year at this time there

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<v Speaker 4>was some of our staff that I hadn't even met yet,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, on the coaching staff, they were just getting here.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, that's really helped, and everybody knows what's

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 4>expected of them. But where we've been at so far,

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<v Speaker 4>getting some interviews and having some meetings with different people

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<v Speaker 4>around the league, it's been a beneficial week for all

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<v Speaker 4>of us.

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<v Speaker 9>In regards to free agency, you said the Cardinals will

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<v Speaker 9>strike and be aggressive if the right opportunity presents itself.

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<v Speaker 9>Aggressive in terms of.

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<v Speaker 4>What yeah, and I think really what that starts with

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<v Speaker 4>is being prepared, right, So we have to be prepared

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<v Speaker 4>with the evaluational players, and we have to look into

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<v Speaker 4>and project them into our systems. They've been playing in

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<v Speaker 4>different systems, maybe being asked to do different things for

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:53.719
<v Speaker 4>other teams, and so we have to see if they

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<v Speaker 4>translate to what we specifically would ask them to do.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the other tricky part of free agency is

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<v Speaker 4>really the market valuation of the players. And there's a

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<v Speaker 4>financial component of adding any free agents, and so we

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 4>have to fit that. We have a salary cap in

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 4>our league and we have to figure out how all

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 4>that fits together when you're building the right fifty three

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 4>man roster. And so, you know, we have to be

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<v Speaker 4>knowledgeable about the players that are available, and we have

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 4>to be knowledgeable about the market. And really we have

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<v Speaker 4>to see if those two things come together to be

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<v Speaker 4>a fit and is the right person to add to

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<v Speaker 4>our roster.

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<v Speaker 9>To find that right person, there has to be a

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<v Speaker 9>balance of how you're approaching this entire off season of

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<v Speaker 9>where you find those needs to add to this team

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 9>coming off a four win season, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 9>draft capital your top ten in terms of available cap space. Philosophically,

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<v Speaker 9>how do you determine which needs to address through the

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<v Speaker 9>draft or free agency?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think the nature of the NFL is

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<v Speaker 4>that there's turnover every year and the team that we

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<v Speaker 4>had last year is going to be the team that

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 4>we have next year. And so you know, at various

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 4>points throughout the season, there's there's ways to add to

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 4>our roster. There's ways to add and really two of

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 4>the big ones are coming up in the next couple

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<v Speaker 4>in the next couple months here, starting with free agency,

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<v Speaker 4>and so you know, I think what we do is

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<v Speaker 4>we assess where we're at, and we assess where we

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<v Speaker 4>are not only short term, but also long term. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think the one thing about free agency

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<v Speaker 4>is I don't think it's a cure all. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think a team that's the great place to

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<v Speaker 4>be roster building and forming the nucleus of a team.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that has to happen through the draft. And

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<v Speaker 4>so free agency is a great tool. It's a supplemental

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<v Speaker 4>tool and one that we're going to investigate every single

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 4>aspect that we can to build our team. And then

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<v Speaker 4>really once we get to the draft, then that's where

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to continue to find the right guys for

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<v Speaker 4>the team, and that's where the core of our team

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 4>is going to be built.

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<v Speaker 9>Cardinals defense was bottom tier statistically across the league last year.

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<v Speaker 9>When it comes to improving the defense, which level, if

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<v Speaker 9>you address it early on, could have the greatest trickle

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<v Speaker 9>down effect?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think I think it's all levels. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think specifically on defense, like and I think you

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 4>say the same thing on offenses. The game starts on

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 4>the line of scrimmage, and so you know, we need

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 4>good players at all three levels of the defense. So

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 4>we're going to look at all those areas and we're

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 4>going to find the right fits for us where it

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 4>makes sense just financially and also the fit schematically. But

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 4>whether it's a draft or free agency, we're going to

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 4>look at all three levels of the defense and try

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 4>to improve our team.

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 9>You address the offensive line early in the draft last year,

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 9>left tackle DJ Humphrees tours ACL late in the season.

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 9>Your top wide receiver, Hollywood Brown is a pending free agent.

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 9>How do you prioritize your needs offensively?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think it's really the same conversation as

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 4>we have needs across the board. Listen, we were a

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 4>four win team last year and so there's there's a

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 4>lot of room for improvement, and so, you know, I

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 4>think with the NFL, there's never a situation where you

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 4>can look at one position and say, hey, we're good

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 4>at this position. We don't need to look there. I mean,

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 4>the nature of the game is that there's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be injuries, there's going to be turnover, and so not

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 4>only building the quality of players on the team, but

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 4>we also have to build the quantity of depth on

0:33:58.080 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 4>the roster as well.

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:00.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a long.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Season, attrition happens along the roster, and so we got

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 4>to be prepared to withstand those things. So, you know,

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 4>whether we're talking about adding quality players is certainly at

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.919
<v Speaker 4>the top of our list, and we're also talking about

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 4>adding depth to our current roster construction.

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 9>The Cardinals are in a good position knowing who you

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 9>have at quarterback and what you have with a healthy

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 9>Kyler Murray. After the eight games he played in last year,

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.280
<v Speaker 9>he had to spend a lot of the last offseason

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 9>and the start of last season on the sideline rehabbing

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 9>that ACL. Once you got a chance to see what

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 9>a healthy Kyler Murray looks like on the field, how

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 9>much more confidence did that give you of how much

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 9>he can lead this organization to success?

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. I think last year at this time, there was

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 4>a lot of unknown. There was a lot unknown with

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Kyler and just where he was and with the injury,

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 4>the timing of when it happened, obviously we knew we

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 4>weren't going to be with him at the start of

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 4>the season. We didn't know how long that was going

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 4>to drag out. And so you know, being in a

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 4>much different spot this year, you know, Kyler attacked his

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 4>rehab going into last year and he's continuing to progress

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 4>and do things this offseason that's going to put him

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 4>in a great position. So, you know, I think it's

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 4>taken out a lot of the unknown that we had

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 4>last year at this time, and to know that we

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 4>have him and he's going to be, you know, take

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 4>off where he left off this last twenty twenty three season.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 4>Then he's only going to get better from here. It's

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 4>it's an exciting place to be for us as an organization.

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 6>There you go the GM Monei yasin Fort with Danny

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 6>Sirek at the combine last week. Think of Mani and

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 6>how much sleep did he lose this time last year?

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 6>He had no idea when Kyler was going to be back.

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 6>You had no idea about so many players on your

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 6>own roster as a brand new GM, brand new to

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 6>the organization. At least now you have a real sense

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 6>of your wants and needs. I know you have about

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 6>fifty million or so available theoretically, but Kyler Murray's cap

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 6>number is fifty two million, up from sixteen million last year.

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 6>And if you're a GM, well, if you got to

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 6>build like with two three, four years in mind, right,

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 6>you have to look at the big picture when you're

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 6>building and spending.

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt, Paully, did Paully you say fifty the

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>cap number? The cap number was fifty two million right there.

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>And Paul, that's one of the reasons why I think

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>at number four, you take the best wide receiver that

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>is out there. You're paying this guy fifty two million dollars.

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna go out there. You've got to give him

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>options out there Okay, I digress on that one right there.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:18.399
<v Speaker 2>Bali.

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I think my biggest takeaway from that interview from Danny,

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 1>of course with many is where he said, I don't

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>think free agency is a cure all and that to

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>me is philosophy, PAULI. That is dogma that maniasen Ford has.

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>He certainly displayed that to some degree. I think last

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>free agent period as well, where he went out and

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>really tried to sign a lot of pros, brought a

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of pros in, and I thought that was a

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>brilliant strategy at that point in time, especially when you're

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to rebuild. Okay, you're not going to go out

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 1>and get pro bowlers. You're not going to go out

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>there and and get these these all legal world prospects

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and bring them. You're not going to do that. What

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.399
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do is go out there as you're trying

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to get your finances in order, You're gonna go ahead

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>and focus on pros, guys that are gonna come in

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>here and do their job.

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 2>It be professional.

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, I think they're going to try to upgrade it

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more as they go forward. Free agency

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 1>is not the cure, and that's dogma with Manti assin Ford.

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 6>Now, you're right, that was a key part of that interview.

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 6>There's no doubt to use the word supplemental free agency.

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 6>For example, if you were a guard away, Cardinals haven't

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 6>need a left guard, right. If you are a guard

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 6>away from being a playoff team, okay, then maybe go out.

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 6>For example, the Rams just moments ago, Kevin Dotson three years,

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 6>forty eight million, thirty two guaranteed sixteen million per so

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 6>it's costly. Offensive line and receiver will cost you a

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 6>lot of money in free agency. Both those areas are

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 6>very deep in the draft. To your point. In fact,

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 6>speaking of young receivers, we'll talk about Michael Wilson next.

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 6>The big Red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 6>snap to murray, what's coming? Burry backing up close into

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 6>the end zone, middle of the end zone, pulled in

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 6>by Wilson for a touchdown.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 11>I told you all from day one. You know, I

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 11>watched his Senior Bowl and I was like, yeah, that

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 11>kid knows, you know, he knows what he's doing. I

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 11>can tell you know. And then just obviously he had

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 11>zero catches two weeks in a row, and that's not

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 11>you know again, they're not a real representation of you

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 11>know what I think we could be. Now we'll get

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 11>a full off season on our belt. You know, I

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 11>think next year, you know, Michael have.

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>A big year.

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 6>There you go, Kyler Murray talking about third round rookie

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 6>Michael Wilson that finale Week eighteen against Seattle. Six catches

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 6>ninety five yards on six targets. You know, two games

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 6>earlier right Philadelphia, four grabs for thirty five yards, that

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 6>big game winning touchdown. So Michael Wilson, especially at the

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 6>end of the season, really got in sync with Kyler Murray.

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 6>And what is the upside after they have an entire

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 6>offseason to work together. Are wrapping up this edition of

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 6>The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 6>We are Antan Ford, Paul, Paul KELVC and run Wofully

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 6>here and Wolf don't make me break out my list

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 6>of all the receivers taken beyond the first round who

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 6>ended up in the Pro Bowl and on the All

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 6>Pro teams the last couple of years. Hopefully eventually Michael

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 6>Wilson might be.

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:13.280
<v Speaker 2>One of those guys.

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Paulli, Uh, you know what, Honestly, right now. Please, I'm

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk a little bit here because nobody wants to

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>hear that, Paul. Okay, nobody wants to hear about your list. Ouch,

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Can I just say eleven personnel right now? Eleven personnel?

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 6>Well, if nobody wants to here, like your personnel.

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Groups one back, one tight end, three wide receivers, Paully,

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine if in fact you had eleven personnel,

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>one back, one tight end, three wide receivers, where you

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:42.320
<v Speaker 1>had Michael Wilson, you had Marvin Harrison junior, Paul, you

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>had Hollywood Brown.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Over the top of the law.

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh and by the way, Trey McBride, a true stud

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>tight end who can line up and block and run

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>down situation first and ten second in one to six

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>can line up and actually you can run it or

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>throw it out of eleven person That is the modern

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:05.919
<v Speaker 1>NFL personnel grouping eleven personnel. And if you had those

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>names with James Connor's toes at seven and Kyler Murray

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>under center in the pistol from the gun.

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Paulie, look.

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 6>Out, you are in the danger zone. There's no doubt

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.439
<v Speaker 6>about that. Here's many Austin for the GM just talking

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.800
<v Speaker 6>about Michael Wilson. Can we just focus on what we

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 6>know and what the Cardinals have, and that is Michael Wilson.

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 6>And here's what the GM has to say.

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 4>Michael Wilson is a very talented receiver and I think

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 4>he showed that last year. He made a ton of

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 4>plays for us as a receiver, run after the catch,

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 4>catching the ball in contested situations. Underrated part of Mike's

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 4>game is his blocking ability, which is important in our

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 4>run game. And he's a good player and he's only

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:43.959
<v Speaker 4>going to continue to get better and we're looking forward

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 4>to having him moving him too twenty twenty four.

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 6>Right, So you pulled a word out of money earlier

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 6>when you said it. You know, free agency isn't a

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 6>cure all. I'll pull out the word contested. To me,

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 6>that was what was most encouraging, most bullish on Michael Wilson.

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 6>He does a lot of everything, including you know, blocking

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.439
<v Speaker 6>in the run game, the whole no block, no rock,

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 6>he buys into that thing.

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I get it.

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 6>But he makes those contested catches. We saw that in

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 6>Week four, his breakout game against the forty nine ers.

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 6>He's battling those Niners dbs and coming down.

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:12.800
<v Speaker 2>With the ball. Yeah, Paully.

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>You know in a lot of times too, there's pluses there,

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about it. Those contested catches. But you

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>know what, Paul, sometimes you need a receiver as well

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that has uncontested catches and the reason why they're uncontested

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>because it's really hard to cover, you know that. I mean,

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>that is something you've got to take into consideration as well.

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Michael Wilson, to me, has just scratched the surface of

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 1>what he could possibly become. And the fact that Manti

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>asin Fort and JG love the way Michael Wilson goes

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>about his business and blocks in the run game, and

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 1>we all know how important that is an elite rushing

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:54.800
<v Speaker 1>attack in the NFL with James Connor, it's critical you

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>have guys like Michael Wilson, maybe Marvin Harrison Junior, maybe

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I say, okay, maybe Paul, but big wide receivers roll

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>with Doonzay, big wide receivers.

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 2>That can block.

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>That's critical. It's one of the reasons why the Arizona

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals had so many runs of twenty yards or.

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 2>More, no doubt, no doubt.

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 6>And I just like how you know they want the

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 6>guys who love ball for someone who would text Kyler

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 6>Murray after the Philadelphia game and both apologize and thank

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 6>Kyler in his text message, apologize for screwing up the

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 6>route the result in the ninety nine yard pick six,

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 6>but then thanking him for trusting Michael the rest of

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 6>the way and throwing him the game when he touchdown pass.

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:37.399
<v Speaker 6>So he's very conscientious in that way. Before we're done

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 6>here with the big red rage, I'm gonna get your

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 6>thoughts on what has happened at the safety position because

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 6>what we have seen this week, Ron Wolfley, here are

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 6>some of the names who are CAP casualties. Premier names

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 6>Justin Simmons, Jordan Poyer, Jamal Adams, and Quandray Diggs from Seattle,

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 6>Kevin Byern cut by Philly, Eddie Jackson in Chicago. Rayshawn

0:42:55.880 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 6>Jenkins is starting safety Jacksonville. Xavier McKinney, a twenty four

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 6>year old cut by the Giants. He was a starter

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 6>and it was all because of the cap. And there

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 6>are a lot of gms anonymously quoted in these stories

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 6>run the NFL saying that safety is the new running

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 6>back and the teams just aren't valuing that position. That's

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 6>hard to believe for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, PAULI you know what, honestly, it's a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of this has got to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that the pendulum has swung back to

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. The old is being blended with the new, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of that, I think it's changing everyone's perception

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<v Speaker 1>of the secondary and in particular those safeties. Paul, that's

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<v Speaker 1>no accident, right, that's no accident what you see happening

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<v Speaker 1>league wide where all of these safeties they were signed

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<v Speaker 1>when the new age offense, for the most part, was

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<v Speaker 1>taking hold across the NFL, and safety was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>position against the spread. But now that it's coming more

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<v Speaker 1>back to the middle and you're blending the old and

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<v Speaker 1>the new, I think safeties are looked at as overpaid.

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<v Speaker 1>Thus your running back continent.

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<v Speaker 6>And there are still elite safeties the Derwin James, the

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<v Speaker 6>Antoine Winfield junior, you know, the up and coming Cale

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<v Speaker 6>Hamilton who was an All Pro, and then of course

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<v Speaker 6>Buddha Baker. But it's interesting because when you look at

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<v Speaker 6>least at the numbers in the websites, right over the

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<v Speaker 6>cap has Buddha's cap number this coming year, at nineteen

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<v Speaker 6>million whoa and Jalen Thompson at twelve point five. So

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<v Speaker 6>the Cardinals would seem to be contrary to the trend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>very interesting. Now do they have the cap room? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 6>Is Buddha critical? Is he the heartbeat of the defense? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just saying it's interesting how the tide is trending

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<v Speaker 6>one way in the NFL, and it appears the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 6>are constructed just the opposite. So hang onto your hat

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<v Speaker 6>because the legal tampering starts on Monday. The official signings

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<v Speaker 6>they can commence on Wednesday. Once again, there is no offseason.

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<v Speaker 6>It's game season and non game season. There's always something

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<v Speaker 6>going on in the NFL. Special thanks as always Jim Momro,

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