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Speaker 6: Ron Wolfley, have you been following the headlines in the
Speaker 6: last twenty four hours, of course, Paul, I mean, if
Speaker 6: Mike Tyson can fight Jake Paul, if zach Ertz can
Speaker 6: rejoin Cliff Kingsbury in Washington, if the Broncos can take
Speaker 6: an eighty five million dollar dead money cap, hit because
Speaker 6: of a quarterback named Russell Wilson who reportedly is gonna
Speaker 6: meet soon with the Steelers. According to the headlines whow
Speaker 6: if Good Morning Football, NFL Network and all of a
Speaker 6: sudden moved from New York City to LA which was
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Speaker 1: PAULI have everything you just said right there. I cannot
Speaker 1: get the image of Russell Wilson and Mike t out
Speaker 1: of my head right now. Very very interesting combination right there.
Speaker 6: All you have to do is call your older brother,
Speaker 6: who happens to be the Steelers analyst if you want
Speaker 6: an intel on that one. So all right, there you go. Look,
Speaker 6: everything is moving, and pretty soon about this time next week,
Speaker 6: we'll have a lot of official headlines out there. For example,
Speaker 6: reportedly Greg Dorch not much negotiating their exclusive rights free agent,
Speaker 6: so they went and tendered him reportedly one point one
Speaker 6: to two million. I mean, that is a deal for
Speaker 6: Greg dort It could be your starting slot right now
Speaker 6: over Rondale Moore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely could. One of the things I love
Speaker 1: most about Greg dors PAULI I believe he is a
Speaker 1: football player. First, he's a football player. You know, we
Speaker 1: used to talk about an kwam Bolden. Of course, on
Speaker 1: how an kwam Bolden could have played multiple positions. You
Speaker 1: could have lined him up at the weak side inside
Speaker 1: linebacker and he would have been Joss fine, yep, could
Speaker 1: have held up just fine as the week's inside I
Speaker 1: look at Greg Dorch and no, you couldn't line him
Speaker 1: up as the weak side inside linebacker. Of course, his
Speaker 1: size is an issue, but man, his heart, he is
Speaker 1: a football player through and through. It's not surprising the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals have dealt with Greg Dortch.
Speaker 6: I said to Greg late in the season, I said,
Speaker 6: you know, on the air about you, I mentioned when
Speaker 6: you live on the edge of a roster, you play
Speaker 6: with an edge. Is that accurate?
Speaker 2: He said?
Speaker 6: No, doubt absolutely was his response. Yes, look at some
Speaker 6: of his closing games. I mean at Chicago he had
Speaker 6: the thirty eight yard touchdown catch and run right. He
Speaker 6: had that forty yard kickoff return in the Chicago game.
Speaker 6: At Philly, he had an one hundred and eighty five
Speaker 6: all purpose yards between the return game and receiving. So,
Speaker 6: I mean he took the month of December and January,
Speaker 6: and I think he proved amanioci for and Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 6: he's got a role in this team.
Speaker 1: No, you're right about that, Pauli. It's very interesting what
Speaker 1: you just said right there too. I mean, every time
Speaker 1: I took the field, I knew, oh my goodness, you
Speaker 1: better come out here, you better ball out or you're
Speaker 1: going to be in trouble. I mean, the desperation that
Speaker 1: I had, it was easy to generate. Let's put it
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Here, here's a guy, Greg Dort who was cut seven
Speaker 6: times his first three years in the league. So now,
Speaker 6: as for Xavi and Collins, what are we expecting there
Speaker 6: in terms of the contract situation is fifth year option
Speaker 6: is going to need to be decided sometime in May.
Speaker 6: He would be due thirteen point two million plus, So
Speaker 6: I don't think there's a lot of optimism out there
Speaker 6: at that number that the fifth year option will be
Speaker 6: picked up. Here's Mania Sapport just asked about Xavion Collins
Speaker 6: game going into next year after he just made the
Speaker 6: position switch from inside to outside linebacker.
Speaker 4: I thought Zavon had a good year for us last year.
Speaker 2: You know, we did.
Speaker 4: We went through a transition with him just positionally got
Speaker 4: back to some things that he did in Tulsa coming
Speaker 4: out of college, and so, you know, I thought zavan
Speaker 4: made a lot of great strites throughout the season, was
Speaker 4: out there for us, a lot of snaps played the
Speaker 4: whole year, and you know, I think with him, as
Speaker 4: with all of our players, I think we're going to
Speaker 4: we expect to see a jump from year one to
Speaker 4: year two, his comfort level, just getting more use to
Speaker 4: the position.
Speaker 6: What's interesting is, I think a number of people on
Speaker 6: this staff, the new set of decision makers, really saw
Speaker 6: him coming out of Tulsa as an edge guy. Yeah, now,
Speaker 6: how do you see his future because we've seen him
Speaker 6: both inside and outside linebacker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I actually thought he was making strides as
Speaker 1: an inside mike linebacker. I thought he was making strides
Speaker 1: right there, and then of course the decision was to
Speaker 1: move them to the outside. And you know, you have
Speaker 1: to trust these coaches and the skill set that has shown.
Speaker 1: Of course, the acumen, the football acumen that has shown.
Speaker 1: You have to trust that these guys know what it
Speaker 1: is that they're doing moving Zavian out to the edge,
Speaker 1: and you know, to me, once again, it made an
Speaker 1: awful lot of sense. I just don't know if they're
Speaker 1: going to pick up that option. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I this is just me guessing. I think it's working
Speaker 1: against Saban Collins and it bothers me because if there's
Speaker 1: one dude that I absolutely love on the team at Saban.
Speaker 6: No doubt about that. So look, it's about the quarterback.
Speaker 6: It's about getting to the quarterback. And then number three,
Speaker 6: I would contend it's about protecting thy quarterback. And that
Speaker 6: brings us to DJ Humphries, who went down late in
Speaker 6: the year with a knee injury. In fact, here was
Speaker 6: Manias support at the podium at the Combine and he
Speaker 6: was asked about last year's starting left tackle.
Speaker 4: It was too bad and unfortunate for Hump. Just you
Speaker 4: know the timing of the injury and you know when
Speaker 4: it happened, and you know it's it's a difficult situation.
Speaker 4: So all I can say is that Hump's been in
Speaker 4: the facility every day he is, he's grinding through rehab
Speaker 4: and he's I know, he's going to put himself in
Speaker 4: the best position to get himself ready to play. It's
Speaker 4: a tough situation. Again, it goes back to the unfortunate
Speaker 4: nature of injuries and football, and you know, I know
Speaker 4: Hump's going to do everything that he can do to
Speaker 4: get himself back out on the field.
Speaker 6: Longest tenured Cardinal d J. Humpries, He used to have
Speaker 6: his name on this show, The Big Red Race Age
Speaker 6: once again, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. How do
Speaker 6: you see his future? Not only is he coming off
Speaker 6: his second torn acl but he's down for a big
Speaker 6: number under the cap next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, you know once again, and if you just
Speaker 1: listen to Moni ascin for it right there, he's talking
Speaker 1: about timing, you know, the timing of this injury and
Speaker 1: it was really bad, and he's talking about how tough
Speaker 1: the situation is right here, and he's talking about it
Speaker 1: being unfortunate of course, and I think all of that
Speaker 1: it's all obvious and it's indications that you know, this
Speaker 1: is going to be a difficult decision. I think the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are going to have if, in fact, the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals were a rebuilt, if this was a team
Speaker 1: that is going to go out and compete for not
Speaker 1: only a playoff position, but compete for a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: If this rebuild was done and that injury happened to him,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt in my mind they'd
Speaker 1: try to bring him back seriously at some point in time.
Speaker 1: Now they're going to have to rework the contract, of course,
Speaker 1: but I think they would try to bring them back
Speaker 1: at this point in time. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: going to be the case. I just don't know, because
Speaker 1: of the rebuild and how new the rebuild is. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that, bot, Well.
Speaker 6: I agree with all that, and I would add two
Speaker 6: other factors. Number One, the guy who took number six overall,
Speaker 6: Paris Johnson Junior, has the ability to play left tackle.
Speaker 6: And in terms of this draft, where you have two
Speaker 6: first round picks and a high second round pick, this
Speaker 6: is an epic historic draft for offensive tackles. In fact,
Speaker 6: some say it's going to break the all time record
Speaker 6: which was set a few years back when seven tackles
Speaker 6: were taken in Round one they say there might be
Speaker 6: eight right now, Daniel Jeremiah has six in his top twenty.
Speaker 6: That's just of all prospects, just based on prospects, forget
Speaker 6: about draft order. And we know how teams value offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Any you think about it right there, Paully, what you
Speaker 1: just said, Yes, why do they value offensive tackles because
Speaker 1: there are guys who are incredible athletes that these scouts
Speaker 1: are searched all over the world to bring these guys
Speaker 1: and players in that can actually come off the edge
Speaker 1: and do incredible things. To get to a quarterback, you
Speaker 1: need offensive linemen, of course, to protect that quarterback. In
Speaker 1: today's NFL, how much of passing the football actually goes on.
Speaker 1: We all understand that you've got to protect that quarterback
Speaker 1: and we all know tackles are at a premium, all right.
Speaker 6: So DJ Humphries recently was on Justin Pugh's podcast, Former
Speaker 6: Cardinals Starting Left Guard Right the net Worth Podcast with
Speaker 6: Justin Peughe shouldn't surprise anyone who insert him on air.
Speaker 6: He's great and the two of them were chopping it
Speaker 6: up and Justin Pugh was asking d J Humpries, Okay,
Speaker 6: how's he doing coming off the knee surgery, and then
Speaker 6: they started talking about Paris Johnson as well.
Speaker 7: I was at breakfast with and my wife the other
Speaker 7: day and I saw and I look up to him.
Speaker 2: I'm like his little brother.
Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, mister Giants, all right, mister Johnson,
Speaker 7: if you you need help with anything, just let me know,
Speaker 7: let me know.
Speaker 2: I'm here to.
Speaker 6: I mean that starts making me think, like, man, I
Speaker 6: gotta get my ass out.
Speaker 2: Of the league.
Speaker 8: I've never met a rookie like this dude, Like especially
Speaker 8: in a rookie office in Lineman where it is how
Speaker 8: he is on the field and actually being ready to
Speaker 8: play on the field, like the guy that he is
Speaker 8: with the helmet all and how he is off the field.
Speaker 8: He's like like, I don't know they made this dude
Speaker 8: in the lab also like this is he's one of
Speaker 8: those guys. It's like, how do you how are you
Speaker 8: good at everything?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 6: D J Humphreys there with Justin Pugh on Justin Pugh's podcast,
Speaker 6: and hey, d Jumpries and Paris Johnson were tight. I
Speaker 6: mean they they they were seen around each other all
Speaker 6: the time on the sideline on game day in the facility.
Speaker 6: So hopefully a lot of what d J Jumprees has
Speaker 6: done over his eight years in the league rubbed off
Speaker 6: on Paris Johnson Junior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, it's one of the reasons why I
Speaker 1: would love to have DJ Humphreys around Paris Johnson Junior.
Speaker 1: You know, once again is he's rehabbing that knee. Absolutely
Speaker 1: having DJ around just to be able to talk to
Speaker 1: Paris Johnson Junior and have Paris Johnson Junior be able
Speaker 1: to confide in DJ humphreyes, he's got a lot of wisdom.
Speaker 2: DJ.
Speaker 1: As you know, PAULI, he's a dog. He's a dog,
Speaker 1: and I love the dog in him and I'd love
Speaker 1: to see Paris Johnson Junior adopt that dogship if you will.
Speaker 6: You know what, You're absolutely right on game day, those
Speaker 6: two guys are two different people. I mean, during the
Speaker 6: week they're really engaging, the very personable high IQ guys.
Speaker 6: But on game day, like you get out of the way,
Speaker 6: like they have a different look in their eyes down
Speaker 6: on the sideline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the kind of guy you want.
Speaker 6: And by the way, d Jemfrey says he's about a
Speaker 6: couple of weeks away from getting off the crutches, so
Speaker 6: he's making good progress.
Speaker 2: In the rehab.
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Speaker 2: Daily Habits. I call it winning behavior.
Speaker 7: Can you display winning behavior consistently day after day after day?
Speaker 7: And we have ways to define that. You know, it's
Speaker 7: not a perfect science, so we know that. But you know,
Speaker 7: I think we got good enough people in the building
Speaker 7: that know how to find that information out, starting with
Speaker 7: our scouts. Our road scouts done a great job. They're
Speaker 7: giving us kind of the background of these guys for
Speaker 7: the course of one, two, three, four years, even dating
Speaker 7: back to high school. They've done a really good job
Speaker 7: with that. And then we'll take all that information and
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Speaker 7: and talk to them some more and then put the
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Speaker 6: MANI there go Cardinals that coach Jonathan again and just
Speaker 6: talking about the process. Cardinals with an NFL high eleven
Speaker 6: picks in an absolutely loaded draft. I mean, like Wolfe's
Speaker 6: dessert plate. This is absolutely loaded this year. I mean
Speaker 6: Cardinals have eleven picks and I want more. Honestly, I'm like,
Speaker 6: trade out of number four, give me some more picks.
Speaker 6: We got so many guys, it's so many different positions
Speaker 6: in need.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so interesting, Bully, because that is one
Speaker 1: of the one of the tactics that a lot of
Speaker 1: the best teams in the National Football League use. That's
Speaker 1: just number of draft picks. They just want guys that
Speaker 1: they can pick and bring them in. Because the more
Speaker 1: guys you can actually bring in and know that you're
Speaker 1: bringing them in by using those draft picks, the better
Speaker 1: chance you got that they're gonna they're gonna pan out ball,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be players. And the Baltimore Ravens they use
Speaker 1: that tactic right there. It's not gonna surprise me at
Speaker 1: all if we continue to see Manti asin Ford collect
Speaker 1: draft picks over the years.
Speaker 6: You know, as the GMS like to say speaking to
Speaker 6: many Asin for for all the research you do, all
Speaker 6: the investigating, all the film work, and the scouting going
Speaker 6: all the way back to high school. It's still ultimately
Speaker 6: people evaluating people, so there's going to be a margin
Speaker 6: of error. So to your point, yes, more picks enhances
Speaker 6: your chances, There's no doubt about it. You had a
Speaker 6: chance earlier day on or to talk with mel kiper Junior,
Speaker 6: the legend himself, and it was interesting. You know, I
Speaker 6: think the sleeper position. And we're gonna get momentarily here
Speaker 6: to Charles Davis at the combine with Danny Surrek and
Speaker 6: Craig Grielou, but I think the sleeper position because there's
Speaker 6: so much talk about tackle. We already talked about that
Speaker 6: receiver obviously is ridiculously deep and talented, but that cornerback position.
Speaker 6: And he even threw out a name with you Wolf,
Speaker 6: I'd never even heard of TJ. Tampa out of Iowa State. Yeah,
Speaker 6: six ' two, over two hundred pounds, ridiculously athletics. So
Speaker 6: I mean there's like a top six of corners. And
Speaker 6: then add that guy into the mix, and then we
Speaker 6: know Jonathan Gannon's affinity. That's the position he coached, and
Speaker 6: the Cardinals have a need at cornerback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, And not only that too.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting because I asked him who
Speaker 1: the biggest killer in the draft was I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you actually heard that question, yes,
Speaker 1: right fresh my memory, Well it was it was Ederan
Speaker 1: Cooper on the defensive side of the ball. Yes, Egirin
Speaker 1: Cooper Man. That blew my mind right there. I haven't
Speaker 1: heard a lot about Edgrian Cooper.
Speaker 2: I did not know that.
Speaker 1: But six y three, two hundred and thirty pounds of course,
Speaker 1: playing with the Aggies Texas, A and M. He said,
Speaker 1: Edgerd Cooper is maybe the nastiest, toughest, dirtiest And when
Speaker 1: he said that, he meant that in a good way.
Speaker 1: Inside linebacker coming out in this draft, the guy that
Speaker 1: they also moved to the edge.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I know what we're all thinking at.
Speaker 1: That point in time, but miss it just doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be that way, Polly right, that's of course. And
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick, yes, I think other people, yes, will be
Speaker 1: thinking of but Edred Cooper, I thought that was cool.
Speaker 6: It'd be the versus Son Reddick, or you could think
Speaker 6: of it as a Zavan Collins right inside to outside. Yes,
Speaker 6: But it's funny because Rob Frederickson on the Red Sea
Speaker 6: Report came in this week and he cited the inside
Speaker 6: linebacker from A and M as a guy that he
Speaker 6: really like. So what it's talking about, we're still learning
Speaker 6: about guys in this draft. So with that being the case,
Speaker 6: let's go out to Indianapolis this past week and Cardinals
Speaker 6: cover to once again Danny Surrett, Craig Grielttle. They're talking
Speaker 6: about Charles Davis from CBS and Danny started by asking
Speaker 6: about Kyler Murray and how you build around a franchise.
Speaker 2: Quarterback for this offense.
Speaker 9: Kyler Murray his game to elevate immediately. In your opinion,
Speaker 9: should the Cardinals prioritize the trenches or do you look
Speaker 9: for a playmaker, especially with look, it's a deep rookie
Speaker 9: cass for tackles and wide receivers. It certainly is how
Speaker 9: you make a decision.
Speaker 10: It's a tough one, right, It's a tough one. So
Speaker 10: let's go back and go through some recent history in
Speaker 10: the NFL. Let's go to Detroit. They took Piney Sewuel
Speaker 10: and played him at right tackle because they had Taylor
Speaker 10: Decker at left tackle. That worked for Detroit. Let's go
Speaker 10: to Cincinnati. Should it be Seul or should it be
Speaker 10: Jamar Chase? They chose Chase that worked out. I think
Speaker 10: it's a it's a matter of what montiasen Ford is
Speaker 10: your GM. Jonathan Ganza head coach, and the rest of
Speaker 10: the scouting department determines when they put that board up,
Speaker 10: where the value is and how they rate those players.
Speaker 10: Some people think I can get away with a little
Speaker 10: bit lesser left tackle because I have a quarterback and
Speaker 10: makes quick decisions. He can run and move that playmaker out.
Speaker 10: Why it's going to give me a little bit more.
Speaker 10: Others believe I got to have my quarterback protected. I
Speaker 10: need to left tackle and what have you? Picking where
Speaker 10: you're picking because I made some notes on this sitting
Speaker 10: there at four. The receiver might be more value for
Speaker 10: you at four than the tackle would be, because I
Speaker 10: think you can get a very similar tackle down the road.
Speaker 10: But that receiver if you really covet him. And by
Speaker 10: the way, you might get first bite at Marvin Harrison
Speaker 10: because the first three off the board could easily be quarterbacks.
Speaker 10: You may have that decision right there staring at you,
Speaker 10: and I have to say, if you get to first
Speaker 10: bite at Marvin Harrison, it'd be hard to turn that down.
Speaker 5: A lot of people look at that wide receiver class.
Speaker 5: Those top three names, whether it's Marvin Harris, the League Neighbors, Duns,
Speaker 5: they're all number one or projected to be number one
Speaker 5: wide receivers. How do you differentiate whether one is better
Speaker 5: than another or is a better fit for a particular team?
Speaker 2: Beauties, and I the.
Speaker 10: Beholder, right, and each team has to determine all that.
Speaker 10: I have Harrison at the top, but that's not an
Speaker 10: original thought. We all have and we have for a while.
Speaker 10: He's been that projected guy for a while. Has everything
Speaker 10: you're looking for. And just watch his ability to catch
Speaker 10: short ones, turn them up field, catch the long one late, hands,
Speaker 10: go up and get it, run the intermediate route, present
Speaker 10: that big body, good frame, go and get the football.
Speaker 10: Really like that, But all the others have that as well.
Speaker 10: Here's the interesting part. My League Neighbors, I know, is
Speaker 10: coach at LSU very well. Do you remember when the
Speaker 10: Bolitnikoff Award came out and Neighbors didn't win it and
Speaker 10: he was really upset lost it by like a voter too,
Speaker 10: it's really close vote. He was really upset about the
Speaker 10: whole thing. Was actually vocal. You don't hear that very
Speaker 10: often with those types of Awards. So I talked to
Speaker 10: his coach about it, and he said, that's just another
Speaker 10: chip for him. Like this guy just he just munches
Speaker 10: these perceived slights. Its kind of Jordan Eskin like he
Speaker 10: can create these things, he said, he just he said,
Speaker 10: you guys just took him to another level that way.
Speaker 10: And the kicker to the whole thing is the guy
Speaker 10: a guy who's not gonna be listed at the top
Speaker 10: of the board, but it's gonna be a really good
Speaker 10: receiver later is neighbors teammate at LSU, Brian Thomas, and
Speaker 10: Brian Thomas is one of those guys that you can
Speaker 10: play any position in the wide receiver tray and he'll
Speaker 10: produce there. But he doesn't even have to practice them.
Speaker 10: He can get the lineup, he can get the game
Speaker 10: plan at a snap, tell you what every the other
Speaker 10: ten are doing on any given play. And I think
Speaker 10: that there's another level to his game that's still left,
Speaker 10: but you gotta project it and you gotta believe it's
Speaker 10: going to go there, which you're getting from the front
Speaker 10: three is you're already seeing that, and that's why they're
Speaker 10: at the top of the board.
Speaker 9: Cardinals defense finished bottom tier statistically could use help in
Speaker 9: the trenches everywhere everywhere. When you're looking at this draft class,
Speaker 9: you're thinking about d lineman or top cornerback, how do
Speaker 9: you prioritize what might have the most significant trickle down
Speaker 9: effect for the Cardinals maybe even in free agency to address.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're exactly right, and Danny, when you get into
Speaker 10: all this, now we're into that same discussion we had
Speaker 10: about the tackle versus the wide receiver, except on the
Speaker 10: defensive side of the ball. Because I've grown up in
Speaker 10: my nearly sixty years on this earth, start inside out.
Speaker 10: I want the trenches taken care of, and everything else goes.
Speaker 10: It wasn't that long ago. Remember when Denzel Ward came
Speaker 10: out out of Ohio State and went to Cleveland at
Speaker 10: number four. They took him instead of Bradley Chubb, the
Speaker 10: pass rushold of NC State, which seemed like a seismic
Speaker 10: change in philosophy. And at the time it was prioritized
Speaker 10: because I think Greg Williams was a decoordinator in Cleveland,
Speaker 10: and he's like, nowadays, the ball's out of quarterback's hands
Speaker 10: so fast that the cover guys actually become even more valuable.
Speaker 10: Now some people believe it. Some people don't, oh the
Speaker 10: ANNIVERSI of Madi asin Fort and his crew believe because
Speaker 10: we're talking about picking it for But you got a
Speaker 10: bunch of other picks. Twenty seven right deep draft all
Speaker 10: the way through offensive tackles, wide receivers, a lot of
Speaker 10: defensive backs, but mainly at the corner, not the safety position.
Speaker 10: So that's going to be the interesting part to see
Speaker 10: where they see they decide to go. And by the way,
Speaker 10: the linebackers this year a good crop linebackers, but I
Speaker 10: don't expect a single linebacker going to first round.
Speaker 6: There you go, Charles Davis twenty twenty four, combine Danny Surrett,
Speaker 6: Craig Gariolu on site in Indianapolis. With that interview, let's
Speaker 6: go back to the very beginning where his reasoning was
Speaker 6: receiver versus tackle. At number four. There's the big three receivers,
Speaker 6: but there might be the Big six or Big eight tackles.
Speaker 6: Because of that, you go receiver at number four.
Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, Well, we've talked about this before in the past,
Speaker 1: and once again, I do believe Marvin Harrison Junior is
Speaker 1: a generational talent. And if you believe this guy is
Speaker 1: He's not going to be seen in the next couple
Speaker 1: of drafts or longer than that, because he's that specially,
Speaker 1: he's got everything. He checks every box. Paul, I think
Speaker 1: you got to pull the trigger on that right there,
Speaker 1: because I think it's a huge need for your franchise
Speaker 1: quarterback and Kyler Murray in terms of getting that wide
Speaker 1: receiver who can actually go out there and make plays
Speaker 1: for him. You want to help protect your quarterback, protect
Speaker 1: him with an offensive line, of course, but you also
Speaker 1: have to protect him by providing him options in which
Speaker 1: that ball comes out quickly.
Speaker 6: And look, you said it, you're in the danger zone
Speaker 6: when it comes to Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 2: Ju I love him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And you know what, I have no problem with
Speaker 6: the generational receiver. I tend to think Roma Dunesay's a
Speaker 6: little closer than most thing. And then you see an
Speaker 6: NFL dot Com mock draft come out after the combine,
Speaker 6: Lance zer Line, who Danny and Craig also talked to,
Speaker 6: and he had quarterbacks going one, two, three in the
Speaker 6: Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2: The number four going.
Speaker 6: Receiver Malik Neighbors Lsu. So it's amazing the sort of
Speaker 6: mind blow that is out there, and then it's so deep.
Speaker 6: You got guys like Xavier Worthy with a four to
Speaker 6: two one, and then you have dudes with size and speed.
Speaker 6: Ad Mitchell out of Texas, Brian Thomas out of LSU,
Speaker 6: Ricky Piersall, the local kid ran a four four one.
Speaker 6: Keon Coleman is a stud. Troy Franklin, the number one
Speaker 6: receiver at Oregon, is six ' to two and a burner.
Speaker 6: So it is really deep at those positions.
Speaker 1: Save you're worthy four to one. Kansas City Chiefs getum?
Speaker 1: How about you want about? Yeah, the Chiefs gettum.
Speaker 6: They're calling him a taller Hollywood Brown. We'll get into
Speaker 6: that a little bit later. That's our uh, that's our
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Speaker 1: Pitch to Connor, running Left Gotta cree at the thirty
Speaker 1: up to the thirty five and down at the thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Got a couple of offensive lineman out there, including the center,
Speaker 1: yelled to pro Hols.
Speaker 2: Man you see, yelled the fro Holt. Wait down the
Speaker 2: veetle making a block. Good job up there.
Speaker 11: Fro Hold was way downfield blocking Cardinals again after the play,
Speaker 11: pushing and shoving.
Speaker 2: Pro Hold, what's in there? Throwing hands? You like that? Wolf? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You got dog right, that's all I get? Wolf Yeah,
Speaker 2: pro Holt throwing hands.
Speaker 6: Give me a little love on that that Hi, Dave
Speaker 6: Pash campaigning for some love up there in the booth,
Speaker 6: and Ron Wolfley yelled a fro Holt, the desert Viking, right,
Speaker 6: magnus ver fro Holt. We threw out there because he
Speaker 6: has all that gym equipment in there, the Atlas stones
Speaker 6: like the world's strongest man feats his strength on his
Speaker 6: own block. As he pointed out to us in the
Speaker 6: Big Red Rage once upon a time, speaking of Paul
Speaker 6: kelvc Ron Wolfley. Here we are talking about free agents, see,
Speaker 6: yelled de fro Holt. Last offseason, Wolf, did you like
Speaker 6: the return on investment from a guy who started every
Speaker 6: single game? Darn near played every single snap as your
Speaker 6: starting center.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I absolutely loved it. PAULI once again yelled a
Speaker 1: fro Holt is a guy that not only knows what
Speaker 1: it is that he's doing, but a guy that is
Speaker 1: going to go out there and do it on every play.
Speaker 1: He's going to give you everything he's got on every play.
Speaker 1: And Paul, he moves so much better than what I
Speaker 1: would expect. When you look at a man his size
Speaker 1: and you watch him run, it's really surprising how smooth
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: And he pancaked.
Speaker 1: I want to say three four guys last season on
Speaker 1: a lot of these screens the Arizona Cardinals would run,
Speaker 1: He get out in front of the receiver or the
Speaker 1: running back and just pancake. Somebody did an incredible job
Speaker 1: at that. So yeah, he is definitely one of my
Speaker 1: favorite guys, Pauli.
Speaker 6: You don't have the number four rank rushing game and
Speaker 6: number two in the league in yards per carry as
Speaker 6: a run game without a stout and Yeldafroholt really was
Speaker 6: a joy to watch the entire season. But once again,
Speaker 6: you know, I think I think that's the caliber a
Speaker 6: free agent you're going after as opposed to the big
Speaker 6: names getting the ultra big money.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 6: A Christian Wilkins is out there, Could the Cardinals use that, Sure,
Speaker 6: but he's probably gonna get ridiculous money from someone. Danil
Speaker 6: Hunter potentially could be a target if you're looking for
Speaker 6: an edge guy, you know. And then if you if
Speaker 6: you're into cornerbacks, because you probably need two starting quarterbacks,
Speaker 6: right Jalen Johnson today from the Bears got four years
Speaker 6: seventy six, forty four guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 6: And then there are some big names who have been
Speaker 6: let go out on the open market. Xavian Howard, Darius Williams,
Speaker 6: J C. Jackson, Tredavius White.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tredavius White, you got my attention right there. I
Speaker 1: just think it's gonna take an awful lot of money
Speaker 1: to sign a guy like Tredavius White.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills, you have to wonder based on all
Speaker 1: the moves they made releasing Jordan Poyer and Moore says,
Speaker 1: well they're starting center. Yeah, you have to wonder, dude,
Speaker 1: they think their window is closed. You know, you have
Speaker 1: to wonder right now, is the Super Bowl window closed?
Speaker 2: Yet?
Speaker 1: Maybe they feel very very confident in some of the
Speaker 1: guys they have coming up behind those guys and having
Speaker 1: said all of that, Polly once again, man, it's really
Speaker 1: about guys that are out there that you can afford
Speaker 1: because Manti asin Ford, as you well know, he's going
Speaker 1: to be prudent when it comes to the money. He's
Speaker 1: going to pay these guys.
Speaker 6: And I know you saw Avonte Maddox from the cornerback
Speaker 6: from Philadelphia. He was released, so you know, maybe that's
Speaker 6: a possibility, maybe that second tier up corner. Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 6: obviously knows him very well, so we'll monitor that. And
Speaker 6: by the way, speaking of the Bill's cornerbacks of their dbs,
Speaker 6: the famous picture Hal Murray of DeAndre Hopkins with a
Speaker 6: game winner right over the three Bills dbs, all three
Speaker 6: of those guys were just released this week, So how's
Speaker 6: that for fate?
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's also right there.
Speaker 1: But I just want to go back quickly though, to
Speaker 1: Avonte Maddox because here's a guy. He's five nine, one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five pounds paully okay, so eighty nine pounds. Man,
Speaker 1: you don't see a guy that has that kind of
Speaker 1: height challenge for the most part playing it at corner
Speaker 1: a lot. And yet I think if he moved him
Speaker 1: to the inside to the number three corner of the
Speaker 1: nickel corner a lot. I think that'd be an interesting
Speaker 1: match with his defense and that being Nick Rowlis of
Speaker 1: course and JG. Would they be interested in Avonte Maddox,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but again we have seen this before
Speaker 1: interest from these guys in regard to some of the
Speaker 1: players that the Philadelphia Eagles have let go or have
Speaker 1: allowed to hit free agency. Kaiser White of course comes
Speaker 1: to mind right now. But that is something I think
Speaker 1: you should watch because if I were a Vonte Maddox,
Speaker 1: this is just and I listen. I may be the
Speaker 1: number four corner if I'm Avonte Maddox, but if there's
Speaker 1: any interest whatsoever, man, I'd want to go play four
Speaker 1: coaches that know who I am and know what I
Speaker 1: can bring to a team, and if in fact they
Speaker 1: have a good relationship with Maddox, I'd be and ten
Speaker 1: up on that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And by the way, another smaller dB, one of our
Speaker 6: favorite all time former Cardinals, Tyron Matthew inc d a
Speaker 6: two year, thirteen million dollar extension with New Orleans, so
Speaker 6: it'd be going into season number twelve. He had four
Speaker 6: picks last year.
Speaker 2: Glorie Badger.
Speaker 6: How about that so many Austin four was at the
Speaker 6: combine obviously, and our Danny Serek was there. They were
Speaker 6: talking about the draft, free agency and more.
Speaker 9: Year two at the helm for you, what's one lesson
Speaker 9: learned from last year's combine? That's just the way you
Speaker 9: are evaluating this time around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I think really the biggest you know,
Speaker 4: improvement that we've been able to make is everybody has
Speaker 4: been through one of these together, so we all know
Speaker 4: kind of the direction that we're going, just the processes
Speaker 4: and what we're trying to get out of these meetings,
Speaker 4: what we're trying to get from the coaching staff out
Speaker 4: of the combine. Our scouts are now through their second combine,
Speaker 4: and really it's helped the continuity, it's helped the flow,
Speaker 4: it's helped you know, last year at this time there
Speaker 4: was some of our staff that I hadn't even met yet,
Speaker 4: you know, on the coaching staff, they were just getting here.
Speaker 4: So you know, that's really helped, and everybody knows what's
Speaker 4: expected of them. But where we've been at so far,
Speaker 4: getting some interviews and having some meetings with different people
Speaker 4: around the league, it's been a beneficial week for all
Speaker 4: of us.
Speaker 9: In regards to free agency, you said the Cardinals will
Speaker 9: strike and be aggressive if the right opportunity presents itself.
Speaker 9: Aggressive in terms of.
Speaker 4: What yeah, and I think really what that starts with
Speaker 4: is being prepared, right, So we have to be prepared
Speaker 4: with the evaluational players, and we have to look into
Speaker 4: and project them into our systems. They've been playing in
Speaker 4: different systems, maybe being asked to do different things for
Speaker 4: other teams, and so we have to see if they
Speaker 4: translate to what we specifically would ask them to do.
Speaker 4: And then the other tricky part of free agency is
Speaker 4: really the market valuation of the players. And there's a
Speaker 4: financial component of adding any free agents, and so we
Speaker 4: have to fit that. We have a salary cap in
Speaker 4: our league and we have to figure out how all
Speaker 4: that fits together when you're building the right fifty three
Speaker 4: man roster. And so, you know, we have to be
Speaker 4: knowledgeable about the players that are available, and we have
Speaker 4: to be knowledgeable about the market. And really we have
Speaker 4: to see if those two things come together to be
Speaker 4: a fit and is the right person to add to
Speaker 4: our roster.
Speaker 9: To find that right person, there has to be a
Speaker 9: balance of how you're approaching this entire off season of
Speaker 9: where you find those needs to add to this team
Speaker 9: coming off a four win season, there's a lot of
Speaker 9: draft capital your top ten in terms of available cap space. Philosophically,
Speaker 9: how do you determine which needs to address through the
Speaker 9: draft or free agency?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the nature of the NFL is
Speaker 4: that there's turnover every year and the team that we
Speaker 4: had last year is going to be the team that
Speaker 4: we have next year. And so you know, at various
Speaker 4: points throughout the season, there's there's ways to add to
Speaker 4: our roster. There's ways to add and really two of
Speaker 4: the big ones are coming up in the next couple
Speaker 4: in the next couple months here, starting with free agency,
Speaker 4: and so you know, I think what we do is
Speaker 4: we assess where we're at, and we assess where we
Speaker 4: are not only short term, but also long term. And
Speaker 4: you know, I think the one thing about free agency
Speaker 4: is I don't think it's a cure all. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't think a team that's the great place to
Speaker 4: be roster building and forming the nucleus of a team.
Speaker 4: I think that has to happen through the draft. And
Speaker 4: so free agency is a great tool. It's a supplemental
Speaker 4: tool and one that we're going to investigate every single
Speaker 4: aspect that we can to build our team. And then
Speaker 4: really once we get to the draft, then that's where
Speaker 4: we're going to continue to find the right guys for
Speaker 4: the team, and that's where the core of our team
Speaker 4: is going to be built.
Speaker 9: Cardinals defense was bottom tier statistically across the league last year.
Speaker 9: When it comes to improving the defense, which level, if
Speaker 9: you address it early on, could have the greatest trickle
Speaker 9: down effect?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think I think it's all levels. You know,
Speaker 4: I think specifically on defense, like and I think you
Speaker 4: say the same thing on offenses. The game starts on
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, and so you know, we need
Speaker 4: good players at all three levels of the defense. So
Speaker 4: we're going to look at all those areas and we're
Speaker 4: going to find the right fits for us where it
Speaker 4: makes sense just financially and also the fit schematically. But
Speaker 4: whether it's a draft or free agency, we're going to
Speaker 4: look at all three levels of the defense and try
Speaker 4: to improve our team.
Speaker 9: You address the offensive line early in the draft last year,
Speaker 9: left tackle DJ Humphrees tours ACL late in the season.
Speaker 9: Your top wide receiver, Hollywood Brown is a pending free agent.
Speaker 9: How do you prioritize your needs offensively?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's really the same conversation as
Speaker 4: we have needs across the board. Listen, we were a
Speaker 4: four win team last year and so there's there's a
Speaker 4: lot of room for improvement, and so, you know, I
Speaker 4: think with the NFL, there's never a situation where you
Speaker 4: can look at one position and say, hey, we're good
Speaker 4: at this position. We don't need to look there. I mean,
Speaker 4: the nature of the game is that there's going to
Speaker 4: be injuries, there's going to be turnover, and so not
Speaker 4: only building the quality of players on the team, but
Speaker 4: we also have to build the quantity of depth on
Speaker 4: the roster as well.
Speaker 2: It's a long.
Speaker 4: Season, attrition happens along the roster, and so we got
Speaker 4: to be prepared to withstand those things. So, you know,
Speaker 4: whether we're talking about adding quality players is certainly at
Speaker 4: the top of our list, and we're also talking about
Speaker 4: adding depth to our current roster construction.
Speaker 9: The Cardinals are in a good position knowing who you
Speaker 9: have at quarterback and what you have with a healthy
Speaker 9: Kyler Murray. After the eight games he played in last year,
Speaker 9: he had to spend a lot of the last offseason
Speaker 9: and the start of last season on the sideline rehabbing
Speaker 9: that ACL. Once you got a chance to see what
Speaker 9: a healthy Kyler Murray looks like on the field, how
Speaker 9: much more confidence did that give you of how much
Speaker 9: he can lead this organization to success?
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think last year at this time, there was
Speaker 4: a lot of unknown. There was a lot unknown with
Speaker 4: Kyler and just where he was and with the injury,
Speaker 4: the timing of when it happened, obviously we knew we
Speaker 4: weren't going to be with him at the start of
Speaker 4: the season. We didn't know how long that was going
Speaker 4: to drag out. And so you know, being in a
Speaker 4: much different spot this year, you know, Kyler attacked his
Speaker 4: rehab going into last year and he's continuing to progress
Speaker 4: and do things this offseason that's going to put him
Speaker 4: in a great position. So, you know, I think it's
Speaker 4: taken out a lot of the unknown that we had
Speaker 4: last year at this time, and to know that we
Speaker 4: have him and he's going to be, you know, take
Speaker 4: off where he left off this last twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 4: Then he's only going to get better from here. It's
Speaker 4: it's an exciting place to be for us as an organization.
Speaker 6: There you go the GM Monei yasin Fort with Danny
Speaker 6: Sirek at the combine last week. Think of Mani and
Speaker 6: how much sleep did he lose this time last year?
Speaker 6: He had no idea when Kyler was going to be back.
Speaker 6: You had no idea about so many players on your
Speaker 6: own roster as a brand new GM, brand new to
Speaker 6: the organization. At least now you have a real sense
Speaker 6: of your wants and needs. I know you have about
Speaker 6: fifty million or so available theoretically, but Kyler Murray's cap
Speaker 6: number is fifty two million, up from sixteen million last year.
Speaker 6: And if you're a GM, well, if you got to
Speaker 6: build like with two three, four years in mind, right,
Speaker 6: you have to look at the big picture when you're
Speaker 6: building and spending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, Paully, did Paully you say fifty the
Speaker 1: cap number? The cap number was fifty two million right there.
Speaker 1: And Paul, that's one of the reasons why I think
Speaker 1: at number four, you take the best wide receiver that
Speaker 1: is out there. You're paying this guy fifty two million dollars.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go out there. You've got to give him
Speaker 1: options out there Okay, I digress on that one right there.
Speaker 2: Bali.
Speaker 1: I think my biggest takeaway from that interview from Danny,
Speaker 1: of course with many is where he said, I don't
Speaker 1: think free agency is a cure all and that to
Speaker 1: me is philosophy, PAULI. That is dogma that maniasen Ford has.
Speaker 1: He certainly displayed that to some degree. I think last
Speaker 1: free agent period as well, where he went out and
Speaker 1: really tried to sign a lot of pros, brought a
Speaker 1: lot of pros in, and I thought that was a
Speaker 1: brilliant strategy at that point in time, especially when you're
Speaker 1: trying to rebuild. Okay, you're not going to go out
Speaker 1: and get pro bowlers. You're not going to go out
Speaker 1: there and and get these these all legal world prospects
Speaker 1: and bring them. You're not going to do that. What
Speaker 1: you're gonna do is go out there as you're trying
Speaker 1: to get your finances in order, You're gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and focus on pros, guys that are gonna come in
Speaker 1: here and do their job.
Speaker 2: It be professional.
Speaker 1: Now, I think they're going to try to upgrade it
Speaker 1: a little bit more as they go forward. Free agency
Speaker 1: is not the cure, and that's dogma with Manti assin Ford.
Speaker 6: Now, you're right, that was a key part of that interview.
Speaker 6: There's no doubt to use the word supplemental free agency.
Speaker 6: For example, if you were a guard away, Cardinals haven't
Speaker 6: need a left guard, right. If you are a guard
Speaker 6: away from being a playoff team, okay, then maybe go out.
Speaker 6: For example, the Rams just moments ago, Kevin Dotson three years,
Speaker 6: forty eight million, thirty two guaranteed sixteen million per so
Speaker 6: it's costly. Offensive line and receiver will cost you a
Speaker 6: lot of money in free agency. Both those areas are
Speaker 6: very deep in the draft. To your point. In fact,
Speaker 6: speaking of young receivers, we'll talk about Michael Wilson next.
Speaker 6: The big Red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert
Speaker 6: snap to murray, what's coming? Burry backing up close into
Speaker 6: the end zone, middle of the end zone, pulled in
Speaker 6: by Wilson for a touchdown.
Speaker 11: I told you all from day one. You know, I
Speaker 11: watched his Senior Bowl and I was like, yeah, that
Speaker 11: kid knows, you know, he knows what he's doing. I
Speaker 11: can tell you know. And then just obviously he had
Speaker 11: zero catches two weeks in a row, and that's not
Speaker 11: you know again, they're not a real representation of you
Speaker 11: know what I think we could be. Now we'll get
Speaker 11: a full off season on our belt. You know, I
Speaker 11: think next year, you know, Michael have.
Speaker 2: A big year.
Speaker 6: There you go, Kyler Murray talking about third round rookie
Speaker 6: Michael Wilson that finale Week eighteen against Seattle. Six catches
Speaker 6: ninety five yards on six targets. You know, two games
Speaker 6: earlier right Philadelphia, four grabs for thirty five yards, that
Speaker 6: big game winning touchdown. So Michael Wilson, especially at the
Speaker 6: end of the season, really got in sync with Kyler Murray.
Speaker 6: And what is the upside after they have an entire
Speaker 6: offseason to work together. Are wrapping up this edition of
Speaker 6: The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 6: We are Antan Ford, Paul, Paul KELVC and run Wofully
Speaker 6: here and Wolf don't make me break out my list
Speaker 6: of all the receivers taken beyond the first round who
Speaker 6: ended up in the Pro Bowl and on the All
Speaker 6: Pro teams the last couple of years. Hopefully eventually Michael
Speaker 6: Wilson might be.
Speaker 2: One of those guys.
Speaker 1: Paulli, Uh, you know what, Honestly, right now. Please, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit here because nobody wants to
Speaker 1: hear that, Paul. Okay, nobody wants to hear about your list. Ouch,
Speaker 1: Can I just say eleven personnel right now? Eleven personnel?
Speaker 6: Well, if nobody wants to here, like your personnel.
Speaker 1: Groups one back, one tight end, three wide receivers, Paully,
Speaker 1: can you imagine if in fact you had eleven personnel,
Speaker 1: one back, one tight end, three wide receivers, where you
Speaker 1: had Michael Wilson, you had Marvin Harrison junior, Paul, you
Speaker 1: had Hollywood Brown.
Speaker 2: Over the top of the law.
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, Trey McBride, a true stud
Speaker 1: tight end who can line up and block and run
Speaker 1: down situation first and ten second in one to six
Speaker 1: can line up and actually you can run it or
Speaker 1: throw it out of eleven person That is the modern
Speaker 1: NFL personnel grouping eleven personnel. And if you had those
Speaker 1: names with James Connor's toes at seven and Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: under center in the pistol from the gun.
Speaker 2: Oh, Paulie, look.
Speaker 6: Out, you are in the danger zone. There's no doubt
Speaker 6: about that. Here's many Austin for the GM just talking
Speaker 6: about Michael Wilson. Can we just focus on what we
Speaker 6: know and what the Cardinals have, and that is Michael Wilson.
Speaker 6: And here's what the GM has to say.
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson is a very talented receiver and I think
Speaker 4: he showed that last year. He made a ton of
Speaker 4: plays for us as a receiver, run after the catch,
Speaker 4: catching the ball in contested situations. Underrated part of Mike's
Speaker 4: game is his blocking ability, which is important in our
Speaker 4: run game. And he's a good player and he's only
Speaker 4: going to continue to get better and we're looking forward
Speaker 4: to having him moving him too twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6: Right, So you pulled a word out of money earlier
Speaker 6: when you said it. You know, free agency isn't a
Speaker 6: cure all. I'll pull out the word contested. To me,
Speaker 6: that was what was most encouraging, most bullish on Michael Wilson.
Speaker 6: He does a lot of everything, including you know, blocking
Speaker 6: in the run game, the whole no block, no rock,
Speaker 6: he buys into that thing.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 6: But he makes those contested catches. We saw that in
Speaker 6: Week four, his breakout game against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 6: He's battling those Niners dbs and coming down.
Speaker 2: With the ball. Yeah, Paully.
Speaker 1: You know in a lot of times too, there's pluses there,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Those contested catches. But you
Speaker 1: know what, Paul, sometimes you need a receiver as well
Speaker 1: that has uncontested catches and the reason why they're uncontested
Speaker 1: because it's really hard to cover, you know that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is something you've got to take into consideration as well.
Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, to me, has just scratched the surface of
Speaker 1: what he could possibly become. And the fact that Manti
Speaker 1: asin Fort and JG love the way Michael Wilson goes
Speaker 1: about his business and blocks in the run game, and
Speaker 1: we all know how important that is an elite rushing
Speaker 1: attack in the NFL with James Connor, it's critical you
Speaker 1: have guys like Michael Wilson, maybe Marvin Harrison Junior, maybe
Speaker 1: I say, okay, maybe Paul, but big wide receivers roll
Speaker 1: with Doonzay, big wide receivers.
Speaker 2: That can block.
Speaker 1: That's critical. It's one of the reasons why the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals had so many runs of twenty yards or.
Speaker 2: More, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 6: And I just like how you know they want the
Speaker 6: guys who love ball for someone who would text Kyler
Speaker 6: Murray after the Philadelphia game and both apologize and thank
Speaker 6: Kyler in his text message, apologize for screwing up the
Speaker 6: route the result in the ninety nine yard pick six,
Speaker 6: but then thanking him for trusting Michael the rest of
Speaker 6: the way and throwing him the game when he touchdown pass.
Speaker 6: So he's very conscientious in that way. Before we're done
Speaker 6: here with the big red rage, I'm gonna get your
Speaker 6: thoughts on what has happened at the safety position because
Speaker 6: what we have seen this week, Ron Wolfley, here are
Speaker 6: some of the names who are CAP casualties. Premier names
Speaker 6: Justin Simmons, Jordan Poyer, Jamal Adams, and Quandray Diggs from Seattle,
Speaker 6: Kevin Byern cut by Philly, Eddie Jackson in Chicago. Rayshawn
Speaker 6: Jenkins is starting safety Jacksonville. Xavier McKinney, a twenty four
Speaker 6: year old cut by the Giants. He was a starter
Speaker 6: and it was all because of the cap. And there
Speaker 6: are a lot of gms anonymously quoted in these stories
Speaker 6: run the NFL saying that safety is the new running
Speaker 6: back and the teams just aren't valuing that position. That's
Speaker 6: hard to believe for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI you know what, honestly, it's a situation where
Speaker 1: I think a lot of this has got to do
Speaker 1: with the fact that the pendulum has swung back to
Speaker 1: the middle. The old is being blended with the new, Paul,
Speaker 1: and because of that, I think it's changing everyone's perception
Speaker 1: of the secondary and in particular those safeties. Paul, that's
Speaker 1: no accident, right, that's no accident what you see happening
Speaker 1: league wide where all of these safeties they were signed
Speaker 1: when the new age offense, for the most part, was
Speaker 1: taking hold across the NFL, and safety was a huge
Speaker 1: position against the spread. But now that it's coming more
Speaker 1: back to the middle and you're blending the old and
Speaker 1: the new, I think safeties are looked at as overpaid.
Speaker 1: Thus your running back continent.
Speaker 6: And there are still elite safeties the Derwin James, the
Speaker 6: Antoine Winfield junior, you know, the up and coming Cale
Speaker 6: Hamilton who was an All Pro, and then of course
Speaker 6: Buddha Baker. But it's interesting because when you look at
Speaker 6: least at the numbers in the websites, right over the
Speaker 6: cap has Buddha's cap number this coming year, at nineteen
Speaker 6: million whoa and Jalen Thompson at twelve point five. So
Speaker 6: the Cardinals would seem to be contrary to the trend. Yeah,
Speaker 6: very interesting. Now do they have the cap room? Absolutely?
Speaker 6: Is Buddha critical? Is he the heartbeat of the defense? Absolutely?
Speaker 6: I'm just saying it's interesting how the tide is trending
Speaker 6: one way in the NFL, and it appears the Cardinals
Speaker 6: are constructed just the opposite. So hang onto your hat
Speaker 6: because the legal tampering starts on Monday. The official signings
Speaker 6: they can commence on Wednesday. Once again, there is no offseason.
Speaker 6: It's game season and non game season. There's always something
Speaker 6: going on in the NFL. Special thanks as always Jim Momro,
Speaker 6: Cody Fincher, Matt Lazareth, Bron Wolfley. I'm Paul Calvc. This
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