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Speaker 2: Red Seats, Rising Up.

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Speaker 3: Dude, you're rising Vision Flurry Rage, tack it Ober. Here's

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Speaker 2: I'm ready.

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Speaker 6: I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you I'm ready.

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Speaker 6: Ron Wolfley, have you been following the headlines in the

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Speaker 6: We are santan Ford, Paul Kelby c you're Ron Wolfley there.

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Speaker 1: PAULI have everything you just said right there. I cannot

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Speaker 6: All you have to do is call your older brother,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I actually thought he was making strides as

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Speaker 6: No doubt about that. So look, it's about the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: It was too bad and unfortunate for Hump. Just you

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Speaker 6: Longest tenured Cardinal d J. Humpries, He used to have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, you know once again, and if you just

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Speaker 6: I agree with all that, and I would add two

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Speaker 7: I was at breakfast with and my wife the other

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Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, mister Giants, all right, mister Johnson,

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Speaker 6: You know what, You're absolutely right on game day, those

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Speaker 6: All right, we continue start talking about the draft next

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Speaker 2: Daily Habits. I call it winning behavior.

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Speaker 7: Can you display winning behavior consistently day after day after day?

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Speaker 7: And we have ways to define that. You know, it's

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Speaker 6: MANI there go Cardinals that coach Jonathan again and just

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Speaker 1: You know, it's so interesting, Bully, because that is one

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Speaker 1: all if we continue to see Manti asin Ford collect

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Speaker 6: You know, as the GMS like to say speaking to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, And not only that too.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting because I asked him who

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Speaker 6: It'd be the versus Son Reddick, or you could think

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Speaker 2: Quarterback for this offense.

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Speaker 9: Kyler Murray his game to elevate immediately. In your opinion,

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Speaker 10: It's a tough one, right, It's a tough one. So

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Speaker 10: Some people think I can get away with a little

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Speaker 5: A lot of people look at that wide receiver class.

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Speaker 9: Cardinals defense finished bottom tier statistically could use help in

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Speaker 9: the trenches everywhere everywhere. When you're looking at this draft class,

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you're exactly right, and Danny, when you get into

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Speaker 10: It wasn't that long ago. Remember when Denzel Ward came

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Speaker 10: Now some people believe it. Some people don't, oh the

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Speaker 10: we're talking about picking it for But you got a

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Speaker 10: bunch of other picks. Twenty seven right deep draft all

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Speaker 10: the way through offensive tackles, wide receivers, a lot of

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Speaker 10: defensive backs, but mainly at the corner, not the safety position.

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Speaker 10: So that's going to be the interesting part to see

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Speaker 10: where they see they decide to go. And by the way,

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Speaker 10: the linebackers this year a good crop linebackers, but I

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Speaker 10: don't expect a single linebacker going to first round.

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Speaker 6: There you go, Charles Davis twenty twenty four, combine Danny Surrett,

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Speaker 6: Craig Gariolu on site in Indianapolis. With that interview, let's

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Speaker 6: go back to the very beginning where his reasoning was

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Speaker 6: receiver versus tackle. At number four. There's the big three receivers,

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Speaker 6: but there might be the Big six or Big eight tackles.

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Speaker 6: Because of that, you go receiver at number four.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, Well, we've talked about this before in the past,

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Speaker 1: and once again, I do believe Marvin Harrison Junior is

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Speaker 1: a generational talent. And if you believe this guy is

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Speaker 1: He's not going to be seen in the next couple

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Speaker 1: of drafts or longer than that, because he's that specially,

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Speaker 1: he's got everything. He checks every box. Paul, I think

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Speaker 1: you got to pull the trigger on that right there,

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Speaker 1: because I think it's a huge need for your franchise

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Speaker 1: quarterback and Kyler Murray in terms of getting that wide

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Speaker 1: receiver who can actually go out there and make plays

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Speaker 1: for him. You want to help protect your quarterback, protect

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Speaker 1: him with an offensive line, of course, but you also

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Speaker 1: have to protect him by providing him options in which

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Speaker 1: that ball comes out quickly.

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Speaker 6: And look, you said it, you're in the danger zone

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Speaker 6: when it comes to Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 2: Ju I love him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And you know what, I have no problem with

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Speaker 6: the generational receiver. I tend to think Roma Dunesay's a

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Speaker 6: little closer than most thing. And then you see an

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Speaker 6: NFL dot Com mock draft come out after the combine,

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Speaker 6: Lance zer Line, who Danny and Craig also talked to,

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Speaker 6: and he had quarterbacks going one, two, three in the

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Speaker 6: Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: The number four going.

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Speaker 6: Receiver Malik Neighbors Lsu. So it's amazing the sort of

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Speaker 6: mind blow that is out there, and then it's so deep.

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Speaker 6: You got guys like Xavier Worthy with a four to

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Speaker 6: two one, and then you have dudes with size and speed.

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Speaker 6: Ad Mitchell out of Texas, Brian Thomas out of LSU,

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Speaker 6: Ricky Piersall, the local kid ran a four four one.

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Speaker 6: Keon Coleman is a stud. Troy Franklin, the number one

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Speaker 6: receiver at Oregon, is six ' to two and a burner.

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Speaker 6: So it is really deep at those positions.

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Speaker 1: Save you're worthy four to one. Kansas City Chiefs getum?

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Speaker 1: How about you want about? Yeah, the Chiefs gettum.

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Speaker 6: They're calling him a taller Hollywood Brown. We'll get into

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Speaker 6: that a little bit later. That's our uh, that's our

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Speaker 6: mention here on The Big Red Rage. By the way,

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Speaker 6: you can listen to your favorite Cardinals podcast at home

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Speaker 6: or on the ghost Search Arizona Cardinals podcast in your

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Speaker 6: We continue to get your coverage from the combine Manti

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Speaker 6: asin Ford. Next on The Big Red Rage, presented by

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Speaker 6: Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 1: Pitch to Connor, running Left Gotta cree at the thirty

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Speaker 1: up to the thirty five and down at the thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: Got a couple of offensive lineman out there, including the center,

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Speaker 1: yelled to pro Hols.

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Speaker 2: Man you see, yelled the fro Holt. Wait down the

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Speaker 2: veetle making a block. Good job up there.

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Speaker 11: Fro Hold was way downfield blocking Cardinals again after the play,

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Speaker 11: pushing and shoving.

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Speaker 2: Pro Hold, what's in there? Throwing hands? You like that? Wolf? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You got dog right, that's all I get? Wolf Yeah,

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Speaker 2: pro Holt throwing hands.

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Speaker 6: Give me a little love on that that Hi, Dave

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Speaker 6: Pash campaigning for some love up there in the booth,

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Speaker 6: and Ron Wolfley yelled a fro Holt, the desert Viking, right,

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Speaker 6: magnus ver fro Holt. We threw out there because he

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Speaker 6: has all that gym equipment in there, the Atlas stones

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Speaker 6: like the world's strongest man feats his strength on his

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Speaker 6: own block. As he pointed out to us in the

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Speaker 6: Big Red Rage once upon a time, speaking of Paul

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Speaker 6: kelvc Ron Wolfley. Here we are talking about free agents, see,

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Speaker 6: yelled de fro Holt. Last offseason, Wolf, did you like

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Speaker 6: the return on investment from a guy who started every

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Speaker 6: single game? Darn near played every single snap as your

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Speaker 6: starting center.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I absolutely loved it. PAULI once again yelled a

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Speaker 1: fro Holt is a guy that not only knows what

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Speaker 1: it is that he's doing, but a guy that is

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Speaker 1: going to go out there and do it on every play.

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Speaker 1: He's going to give you everything he's got on every play.

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Speaker 1: And Paul, he moves so much better than what I

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Speaker 1: would expect. When you look at a man his size

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Speaker 1: and you watch him run, it's really surprising how smooth

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Speaker 1: he is.

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Speaker 2: And he pancaked.

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Speaker 1: I want to say three four guys last season on

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Speaker 1: a lot of these screens the Arizona Cardinals would run,

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Speaker 1: He get out in front of the receiver or the

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Speaker 1: running back and just pancake. Somebody did an incredible job

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Speaker 1: at that. So yeah, he is definitely one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite guys, Pauli.

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Speaker 6: You don't have the number four rank rushing game and

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Speaker 6: number two in the league in yards per carry as

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Speaker 6: a run game without a stout and Yeldafroholt really was

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Speaker 6: a joy to watch the entire season. But once again,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think I think that's the caliber a

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Speaker 6: free agent you're going after as opposed to the big

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Speaker 6: names getting the ultra big money.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 6: A Christian Wilkins is out there, Could the Cardinals use that, Sure,

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Speaker 6: but he's probably gonna get ridiculous money from someone. Danil

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Speaker 6: Hunter potentially could be a target if you're looking for

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Speaker 6: an edge guy, you know. And then if you if

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Speaker 6: you're into cornerbacks, because you probably need two starting quarterbacks,

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Speaker 6: right Jalen Johnson today from the Bears got four years

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Speaker 6: seventy six, forty four guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 6: And then there are some big names who have been

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Speaker 6: let go out on the open market. Xavian Howard, Darius Williams,

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Speaker 6: J C. Jackson, Tredavius White.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tredavius White, you got my attention right there. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's gonna take an awful lot of money

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Speaker 1: to sign a guy like Tredavius White.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills, you have to wonder based on all

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Speaker 1: the moves they made releasing Jordan Poyer and Moore says,

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Speaker 1: well they're starting center. Yeah, you have to wonder, dude,

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Speaker 1: they think their window is closed. You know, you have

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Speaker 1: to wonder right now, is the Super Bowl window closed?

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Speaker 2: Yet?

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Speaker 1: Maybe they feel very very confident in some of the

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Speaker 1: guys they have coming up behind those guys and having

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Speaker 1: said all of that, Polly once again, man, it's really

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Speaker 1: about guys that are out there that you can afford

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Speaker 1: because Manti asin Ford, as you well know, he's going

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Speaker 1: to be prudent when it comes to the money. He's

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Speaker 1: going to pay these guys.

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Speaker 6: And I know you saw Avonte Maddox from the cornerback

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Speaker 6: from Philadelphia. He was released, so you know, maybe that's

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Speaker 6: a possibility, maybe that second tier up corner. Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 6: obviously knows him very well, so we'll monitor that. And

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Speaker 6: by the way, speaking of the Bill's cornerbacks of their dbs,

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Speaker 6: the famous picture Hal Murray of DeAndre Hopkins with a

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Speaker 6: game winner right over the three Bills dbs, all three

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Speaker 6: of those guys were just released this week, So how's

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Speaker 6: that for fate?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's also right there.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to go back quickly though, to

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Speaker 1: Avonte Maddox because here's a guy. He's five nine, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five pounds paully okay, so eighty nine pounds. Man,

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Speaker 1: you don't see a guy that has that kind of

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Speaker 1: height challenge for the most part playing it at corner

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Speaker 1: a lot. And yet I think if he moved him

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Speaker 1: to the inside to the number three corner of the

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Speaker 1: nickel corner a lot. I think that'd be an interesting

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Speaker 1: match with his defense and that being Nick Rowlis of

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Speaker 1: course and JG. Would they be interested in Avonte Maddox,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but again we have seen this before

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Speaker 1: interest from these guys in regard to some of the

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Speaker 1: players that the Philadelphia Eagles have let go or have

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Speaker 1: allowed to hit free agency. Kaiser White of course comes

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Speaker 1: to mind right now. But that is something I think

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Speaker 1: you should watch because if I were a Vonte Maddox,

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Speaker 1: this is just and I listen. I may be the

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Speaker 1: number four corner if I'm Avonte Maddox, but if there's

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Speaker 1: any interest whatsoever, man, I'd want to go play four

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Speaker 1: coaches that know who I am and know what I

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Speaker 1: can bring to a team, and if in fact they

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Speaker 1: have a good relationship with Maddox, I'd be and ten

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Speaker 1: up on that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, another smaller dB, one of our

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Speaker 6: favorite all time former Cardinals, Tyron Matthew inc d a

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Speaker 6: two year, thirteen million dollar extension with New Orleans, so

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Speaker 6: it'd be going into season number twelve. He had four

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Speaker 6: picks last year.

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Speaker 2: Glorie Badger.

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Speaker 6: How about that so many Austin four was at the

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Speaker 6: combine obviously, and our Danny Serek was there. They were

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Speaker 6: talking about the draft, free agency and more.

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Speaker 9: Year two at the helm for you, what's one lesson

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Speaker 9: learned from last year's combine? That's just the way you

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Speaker 9: are evaluating this time around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I think really the biggest you know,

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Speaker 4: improvement that we've been able to make is everybody has

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Speaker 4: been through one of these together, so we all know

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Speaker 4: kind of the direction that we're going, just the processes

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Speaker 4: and what we're trying to get out of these meetings,

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Speaker 4: of the combine. Our scouts are now through their second combine,

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Speaker 4: and really it's helped the continuity, it's helped the flow,

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Speaker 4: it's helped you know, last year at this time there

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Speaker 4: you know, on the coaching staff, they were just getting here.

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Speaker 4: So you know, that's really helped, and everybody knows what's

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Speaker 4: expected of them. But where we've been at so far,

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Speaker 4: getting some interviews and having some meetings with different people

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Speaker 4: around the league, it's been a beneficial week for all

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Speaker 4: of us.

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Speaker 9: In regards to free agency, you said the Cardinals will

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Speaker 9: strike and be aggressive if the right opportunity presents itself.

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Speaker 9: Aggressive in terms of.

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Speaker 4: What yeah, and I think really what that starts with

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Speaker 4: is being prepared, right, So we have to be prepared

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Speaker 4: with the evaluational players, and we have to look into

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Speaker 4: and project them into our systems. They've been playing in

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Speaker 4: different systems, maybe being asked to do different things for

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Speaker 4: other teams, and so we have to see if they

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Speaker 4: translate to what we specifically would ask them to do.

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Speaker 4: And then the other tricky part of free agency is

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Speaker 4: really the market valuation of the players. And there's a

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Speaker 4: financial component of adding any free agents, and so we

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Speaker 4: have to fit that. We have a salary cap in

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Speaker 4: our league and we have to figure out how all

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Speaker 4: that fits together when you're building the right fifty three

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Speaker 4: man roster. And so, you know, we have to be

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Speaker 4: knowledgeable about the players that are available, and we have

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Speaker 4: to be knowledgeable about the market. And really we have

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Speaker 4: to see if those two things come together to be

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Speaker 4: a fit and is the right person to add to

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Speaker 4: our roster.

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Speaker 9: To find that right person, there has to be a

653
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Speaker 9: balance of how you're approaching this entire off season of

654
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Speaker 9: where you find those needs to add to this team

655
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Speaker 9: coming off a four win season, there's a lot of

656
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Speaker 9: draft capital your top ten in terms of available cap space. Philosophically,

657
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Speaker 9: how do you determine which needs to address through the

658
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Speaker 9: draft or free agency?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the nature of the NFL is

660
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Speaker 4: that there's turnover every year and the team that we

661
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Speaker 4: had last year is going to be the team that

662
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Speaker 4: we have next year. And so you know, at various

663
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Speaker 4: points throughout the season, there's there's ways to add to

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Speaker 4: our roster. There's ways to add and really two of

665
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Speaker 4: the big ones are coming up in the next couple

666
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Speaker 4: in the next couple months here, starting with free agency,

667
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Speaker 4: and so you know, I think what we do is

668
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Speaker 4: we assess where we're at, and we assess where we

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Speaker 4: are not only short term, but also long term. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I think the one thing about free agency

671
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Speaker 4: is I don't think it's a cure all. You know,

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Speaker 4: I don't think a team that's the great place to

673
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Speaker 4: be roster building and forming the nucleus of a team.

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Speaker 4: I think that has to happen through the draft. And

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Speaker 4: so free agency is a great tool. It's a supplemental

676
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Speaker 4: tool and one that we're going to investigate every single

677
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Speaker 4: aspect that we can to build our team. And then

678
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Speaker 4: really once we get to the draft, then that's where

679
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Speaker 4: we're going to continue to find the right guys for

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Speaker 4: the team, and that's where the core of our team

681
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Speaker 4: is going to be built.

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Speaker 9: Cardinals defense was bottom tier statistically across the league last year.

683
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Speaker 9: When it comes to improving the defense, which level, if

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Speaker 9: you address it early on, could have the greatest trickle

685
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Speaker 9: down effect?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think I think it's all levels. You know,

687
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Speaker 4: I think specifically on defense, like and I think you

688
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Speaker 4: say the same thing on offenses. The game starts on

689
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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, and so you know, we need

690
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Speaker 4: good players at all three levels of the defense. So

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Speaker 4: we're going to look at all those areas and we're

692
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Speaker 4: going to find the right fits for us where it

693
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Speaker 4: makes sense just financially and also the fit schematically. But

694
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Speaker 4: whether it's a draft or free agency, we're going to

695
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Speaker 4: look at all three levels of the defense and try

696
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Speaker 4: to improve our team.

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Speaker 9: You address the offensive line early in the draft last year,

698
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Speaker 9: left tackle DJ Humphrees tours ACL late in the season.

699
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Speaker 9: Your top wide receiver, Hollywood Brown is a pending free agent.

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Speaker 9: How do you prioritize your needs offensively?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's really the same conversation as

702
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Speaker 4: we have needs across the board. Listen, we were a

703
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Speaker 4: four win team last year and so there's there's a

704
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Speaker 4: lot of room for improvement, and so, you know, I

705
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Speaker 4: think with the NFL, there's never a situation where you

706
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Speaker 4: can look at one position and say, hey, we're good

707
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Speaker 4: at this position. We don't need to look there. I mean,

708
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Speaker 4: the nature of the game is that there's going to

709
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Speaker 4: be injuries, there's going to be turnover, and so not

710
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Speaker 4: only building the quality of players on the team, but

711
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Speaker 4: we also have to build the quantity of depth on

712
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Speaker 4: the roster as well.

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Speaker 2: It's a long.

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Speaker 4: Season, attrition happens along the roster, and so we got

715
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Speaker 4: to be prepared to withstand those things. So, you know,

716
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Speaker 4: whether we're talking about adding quality players is certainly at

717
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Speaker 4: the top of our list, and we're also talking about

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Speaker 4: adding depth to our current roster construction.

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Speaker 9: The Cardinals are in a good position knowing who you

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Speaker 9: have at quarterback and what you have with a healthy

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Speaker 9: Kyler Murray. After the eight games he played in last year,

722
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Speaker 9: he had to spend a lot of the last offseason

723
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Speaker 9: and the start of last season on the sideline rehabbing

724
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Speaker 9: that ACL. Once you got a chance to see what

725
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Speaker 9: a healthy Kyler Murray looks like on the field, how

726
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Speaker 9: much more confidence did that give you of how much

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Speaker 9: he can lead this organization to success?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think last year at this time, there was

729
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Speaker 4: a lot of unknown. There was a lot unknown with

730
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Speaker 4: Kyler and just where he was and with the injury,

731
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Speaker 4: the timing of when it happened, obviously we knew we

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Speaker 4: weren't going to be with him at the start of

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Speaker 4: the season. We didn't know how long that was going

734
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Speaker 4: to drag out. And so you know, being in a

735
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Speaker 4: much different spot this year, you know, Kyler attacked his

736
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Speaker 4: rehab going into last year and he's continuing to progress

737
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Speaker 4: and do things this offseason that's going to put him

738
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Speaker 4: in a great position. So, you know, I think it's

739
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Speaker 4: taken out a lot of the unknown that we had

740
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Speaker 4: last year at this time, and to know that we

741
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Speaker 4: have him and he's going to be, you know, take

742
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Speaker 4: off where he left off this last twenty twenty three season.

743
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Speaker 4: Then he's only going to get better from here. It's

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Speaker 4: it's an exciting place to be for us as an organization.

745
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Speaker 6: There you go the GM Monei yasin Fort with Danny

746
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Speaker 6: Sirek at the combine last week. Think of Mani and

747
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 6: how much sleep did he lose this time last year?

748
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Speaker 6: He had no idea when Kyler was going to be back.

749
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Speaker 6: You had no idea about so many players on your

750
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Speaker 6: own roster as a brand new GM, brand new to

751
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Speaker 6: the organization. At least now you have a real sense

752
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 6: of your wants and needs. I know you have about

753
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 6: fifty million or so available theoretically, but Kyler Murray's cap

754
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 6: number is fifty two million, up from sixteen million last year.

755
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Speaker 6: And if you're a GM, well, if you got to

756
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Speaker 6: build like with two three, four years in mind, right,

757
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 6: you have to look at the big picture when you're

758
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 6: building and spending.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, Paully, did Paully you say fifty the

760
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: cap number? The cap number was fifty two million right there.

761
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Speaker 1: And Paul, that's one of the reasons why I think

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Speaker 1: at number four, you take the best wide receiver that

763
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Speaker 1: is out there. You're paying this guy fifty two million dollars.

764
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Speaker 1: You're gonna go out there. You've got to give him

765
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: options out there Okay, I digress on that one right there.

766
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Speaker 2: Bali.

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Speaker 1: I think my biggest takeaway from that interview from Danny,

768
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Speaker 1: of course with many is where he said, I don't

769
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Speaker 1: think free agency is a cure all and that to

770
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Speaker 1: me is philosophy, PAULI. That is dogma that maniasen Ford has.

771
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Speaker 1: He certainly displayed that to some degree. I think last

772
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Speaker 1: free agent period as well, where he went out and

773
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Speaker 1: really tried to sign a lot of pros, brought a

774
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Speaker 1: lot of pros in, and I thought that was a

775
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: brilliant strategy at that point in time, especially when you're

776
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Speaker 1: trying to rebuild. Okay, you're not going to go out

777
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: and get pro bowlers. You're not going to go out

778
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: there and and get these these all legal world prospects

779
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: and bring them. You're not going to do that. What

780
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: you're gonna do is go out there as you're trying

781
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: to get your finances in order, You're gonna go ahead

782
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: and focus on pros, guys that are gonna come in

783
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Speaker 1: here and do their job.

784
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Speaker 2: It be professional.

785
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Speaker 1: Now, I think they're going to try to upgrade it

786
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more as they go forward. Free agency

787
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: is not the cure, and that's dogma with Manti assin Ford.

788
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Speaker 6: Now, you're right, that was a key part of that interview.

789
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Speaker 6: There's no doubt to use the word supplemental free agency.

790
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Speaker 6: For example, if you were a guard away, Cardinals haven't

791
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 6: need a left guard, right. If you are a guard

792
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 6: away from being a playoff team, okay, then maybe go out.

793
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 6: For example, the Rams just moments ago, Kevin Dotson three years,

794
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 6: forty eight million, thirty two guaranteed sixteen million per so

795
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Speaker 6: it's costly. Offensive line and receiver will cost you a

796
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 6: lot of money in free agency. Both those areas are

797
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 6: very deep in the draft. To your point. In fact,

798
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Speaker 6: speaking of young receivers, we'll talk about Michael Wilson next.

799
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Speaker 6: The big Red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert

800
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Speaker 6: snap to murray, what's coming? Burry backing up close into

801
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 6: the end zone, middle of the end zone, pulled in

802
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 6: by Wilson for a touchdown.

803
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Speaker 11: I told you all from day one. You know, I

804
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 11: watched his Senior Bowl and I was like, yeah, that

805
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 11: kid knows, you know, he knows what he's doing. I

806
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 11: can tell you know. And then just obviously he had

807
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 11: zero catches two weeks in a row, and that's not

808
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 11: you know again, they're not a real representation of you

809
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Speaker 11: know what I think we could be. Now we'll get

810
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Speaker 11: a full off season on our belt. You know, I

811
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 11: think next year, you know, Michael have.

812
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Speaker 2: A big year.

813
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Speaker 6: There you go, Kyler Murray talking about third round rookie

814
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Speaker 6: Michael Wilson that finale Week eighteen against Seattle. Six catches

815
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Speaker 6: ninety five yards on six targets. You know, two games

816
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 6: earlier right Philadelphia, four grabs for thirty five yards, that

817
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 6: big game winning touchdown. So Michael Wilson, especially at the

818
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 6: end of the season, really got in sync with Kyler Murray.

819
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Speaker 6: And what is the upside after they have an entire

820
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Speaker 6: offseason to work together. Are wrapping up this edition of

821
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Speaker 6: The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.

822
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Speaker 6: We are Antan Ford, Paul, Paul KELVC and run Wofully

823
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Speaker 6: here and Wolf don't make me break out my list

824
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Speaker 6: of all the receivers taken beyond the first round who

825
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 6: ended up in the Pro Bowl and on the All

826
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Speaker 6: Pro teams the last couple of years. Hopefully eventually Michael

827
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Speaker 6: Wilson might be.

828
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Speaker 2: One of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Paulli, Uh, you know what, Honestly, right now. Please, I'm

830
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit here because nobody wants to

831
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Speaker 1: hear that, Paul. Okay, nobody wants to hear about your list. Ouch,

832
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Speaker 1: Can I just say eleven personnel right now? Eleven personnel?

833
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Speaker 6: Well, if nobody wants to here, like your personnel.

834
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Speaker 1: Groups one back, one tight end, three wide receivers, Paully,

835
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Speaker 1: can you imagine if in fact you had eleven personnel,

836
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Speaker 1: one back, one tight end, three wide receivers, where you

837
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Speaker 1: had Michael Wilson, you had Marvin Harrison junior, Paul, you

838
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Speaker 1: had Hollywood Brown.

839
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Speaker 2: Over the top of the law.

840
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, Trey McBride, a true stud

841
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: tight end who can line up and block and run

842
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: down situation first and ten second in one to six

843
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: can line up and actually you can run it or

844
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Speaker 1: throw it out of eleven person That is the modern

845
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Speaker 1: NFL personnel grouping eleven personnel. And if you had those

846
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: names with James Connor's toes at seven and Kyler Murray

847
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: under center in the pistol from the gun.

848
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Speaker 2: Oh, Paulie, look.

849
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Speaker 6: Out, you are in the danger zone. There's no doubt

850
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Speaker 6: about that. Here's many Austin for the GM just talking

851
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Speaker 6: about Michael Wilson. Can we just focus on what we

852
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 6: know and what the Cardinals have, and that is Michael Wilson.

853
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Speaker 6: And here's what the GM has to say.

854
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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson is a very talented receiver and I think

855
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: he showed that last year. He made a ton of

856
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 4: plays for us as a receiver, run after the catch,

857
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: catching the ball in contested situations. Underrated part of Mike's

858
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: game is his blocking ability, which is important in our

859
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 4: run game. And he's a good player and he's only

860
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 4: going to continue to get better and we're looking forward

861
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Speaker 4: to having him moving him too twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 6: Right, So you pulled a word out of money earlier

863
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Speaker 6: when you said it. You know, free agency isn't a

864
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Speaker 6: cure all. I'll pull out the word contested. To me,

865
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Speaker 6: that was what was most encouraging, most bullish on Michael Wilson.

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Speaker 6: He does a lot of everything, including you know, blocking

867
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Speaker 6: in the run game, the whole no block, no rock,

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Speaker 6: he buys into that thing.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 6: But he makes those contested catches. We saw that in

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Speaker 6: Week four, his breakout game against the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 6: He's battling those Niners dbs and coming down.

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Speaker 2: With the ball. Yeah, Paully.

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Speaker 1: You know in a lot of times too, there's pluses there,

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Those contested catches. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, Paul, sometimes you need a receiver as well

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Speaker 1: that has uncontested catches and the reason why they're uncontested

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Speaker 1: because it's really hard to cover, you know that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is something you've got to take into consideration as well.

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Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, to me, has just scratched the surface of

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Speaker 1: what he could possibly become. And the fact that Manti

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Speaker 1: asin Fort and JG love the way Michael Wilson goes

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Speaker 1: about his business and blocks in the run game, and

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Speaker 1: we all know how important that is an elite rushing

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Speaker 1: attack in the NFL with James Connor, it's critical you

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Speaker 1: have guys like Michael Wilson, maybe Marvin Harrison Junior, maybe

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Speaker 1: I say, okay, maybe Paul, but big wide receivers roll

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Speaker 1: with Doonzay, big wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: That can block.

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Speaker 1: That's critical. It's one of the reasons why the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals had so many runs of twenty yards or.

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Speaker 2: More, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 6: And I just like how you know they want the

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Speaker 6: guys who love ball for someone who would text Kyler

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Speaker 6: Murray after the Philadelphia game and both apologize and thank

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Speaker 6: Kyler in his text message, apologize for screwing up the

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Speaker 6: route the result in the ninety nine yard pick six,

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Speaker 6: but then thanking him for trusting Michael the rest of

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Speaker 6: the way and throwing him the game when he touchdown pass.

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Speaker 6: So he's very conscientious in that way. Before we're done

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Speaker 6: here with the big red rage, I'm gonna get your

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Speaker 6: thoughts on what has happened at the safety position because

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Speaker 6: what we have seen this week, Ron Wolfley, here are

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Speaker 6: some of the names who are CAP casualties. Premier names

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Speaker 6: Justin Simmons, Jordan Poyer, Jamal Adams, and Quandray Diggs from Seattle,

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Speaker 6: Kevin Byern cut by Philly, Eddie Jackson in Chicago. Rayshawn

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Speaker 6: Jenkins is starting safety Jacksonville. Xavier McKinney, a twenty four

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Speaker 6: year old cut by the Giants. He was a starter

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Speaker 6: and it was all because of the cap. And there

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Speaker 6: are a lot of gms anonymously quoted in these stories

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Speaker 6: run the NFL saying that safety is the new running

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Speaker 6: back and the teams just aren't valuing that position. That's

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Speaker 6: hard to believe for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI you know what, honestly, it's a situation where

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of this has got to do

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Speaker 1: with the fact that the pendulum has swung back to

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Speaker 1: the middle. The old is being blended with the new, Paul,

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Speaker 1: and because of that, I think it's changing everyone's perception

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Speaker 1: of the secondary and in particular those safeties. Paul, that's

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Speaker 1: no accident, right, that's no accident what you see happening

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Speaker 1: league wide where all of these safeties they were signed

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Speaker 1: when the new age offense, for the most part, was

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Speaker 1: taking hold across the NFL, and safety was a huge

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Speaker 1: position against the spread. But now that it's coming more

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Speaker 1: back to the middle and you're blending the old and

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Speaker 1: the new, I think safeties are looked at as overpaid.

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Speaker 1: Thus your running back continent.

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Speaker 6: And there are still elite safeties the Derwin James, the

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Speaker 6: Antoine Winfield junior, you know, the up and coming Cale

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Speaker 6: Hamilton who was an All Pro, and then of course

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Speaker 6: Buddha Baker. But it's interesting because when you look at

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Speaker 6: least at the numbers in the websites, right over the

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Speaker 6: cap has Buddha's cap number this coming year, at nineteen

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Speaker 6: million whoa and Jalen Thompson at twelve point five. So

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Speaker 6: the Cardinals would seem to be contrary to the trend. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: very interesting. Now do they have the cap room? Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: Is Buddha critical? Is he the heartbeat of the defense? Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying it's interesting how the tide is trending

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Speaker 6: one way in the NFL, and it appears the Cardinals

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Speaker 6: are constructed just the opposite. So hang onto your hat

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Speaker 6: because the legal tampering starts on Monday. The official signings

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Speaker 6: they can commence on Wednesday. Once again, there is no offseason.

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Speaker 6: It's game season and non game season. There's always something

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Speaker 6: going on in the NFL. Special thanks as always Jim Momro,

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