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Like 34 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: I tell everybody every week, it's time to stop reading 35 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: other people's success stories and actually start writing your own. 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: And I always tell people to leave with your gifts. 37 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: Here people talk about their gifts. They talk about their passions, well, 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: stop talking about it, lead with it, and don't let 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: your age, friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: or living your dreams. My interviews I bring on money 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: making conversations are for you. I give you access to celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs, 42 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: and what I like to call industry decision makers. My 43 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: next guest is a dear friend, Bill Duke. Bill Duke 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: is an actor, director, and producing Hollywood. More than forty 45 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: years of experience on screen and behind the camera. Duke 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: has currently started in Steven Sarderbergh's new crime drama No 47 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: Sudden Mood, Debating July one on HBO Max, which I 48 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: do have that I will be watching him July one. 49 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: His acting credits include reaching television and feature film roles 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: and shows like Black Lightning, I Love More Black Lightning, 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: My Crew over There, The Oval, and the critical acclaimed 52 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: film Mandy, and other movies like High Flying Bird. He 53 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: also known for Rosen Predator y'all remember Predator, been Predator 54 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Now you know I couldn't see nothing, American jigging old 55 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: car car was come on now Action Jackson Commando who 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: ministers to side board ministers board that was hard that 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: bird on the Y, Get Rich or Die, Tried, X 58 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: Men three, and many more film and TV projects. He's 59 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: on the show to talk about the movie which we 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: had just said, Southern, No Southern Move, the Duke Media Foundation, 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: which I really want to talk about, and you unite 62 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: network please working the money making conversation again. He is 63 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: a Sigma by trade. My man, Bill, do see Bill? Dude? Bill, 64 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: you know what mean you? We junk off air because 65 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: I remember making side five and I always tell people 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: this smell on the real I tell people I pledged 67 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: while I was in college and it changed my life. 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: It changed my life and fraternities in general. I talked 69 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: about fraternity again. It's easy to sigmal you're gonna point 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: a signal like I can't see blue and white. But 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: I always tell people because a lot of people think 72 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: that fraternity row is about party and it's about it's 73 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: about having a good time, but really being in a 74 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: fraternity to change my perspective gave me a clear understanding 75 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: of the community. And I just wanted to bring that 76 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: up because you know, we both are passionate about our 77 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: fraternities and UH and we always are telling people the 78 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: value of fraternity. Talk about being a member of the 79 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: segment of your of your organization for a second. Well, 80 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: first of all, it's a it's a very happy to 81 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: be a part of it. And as you say, maybe 82 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: many people think about fraternities as party. You know, people 83 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: party from time to time, but that's not the foundation 84 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 1: of it. The foundation of is a collaboration of brothers 85 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: coming together to really discuss and take action on issues 86 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: that we face as a culture in our community, t 87 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: from business to whatever politics. But to him a discussion 88 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: and we don't have to agree on everything, but we 89 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: have mutual respect for each other and the fact that 90 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: we can honestly say what we feel without being judged, 91 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: you know. And that's that's those those statements that you say, 92 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: I echo those statements, but in because of again, you know, 93 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: gives you a sense of balance. And that's why I say, 94 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, when you want to go out in the community, 95 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: because you know, even though you're an actor, your director, 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: you produce many projects, it's about your brand, and your 97 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: brand is entertainment, and in entertainment it does allow you 98 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: to capture people's attention. And when you capture people attention, 99 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: that can allow you to go and and don't shape 100 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: their minds, shape their experiences. And I know we're want 101 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: to show to talk about you know, the movie that 102 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: you're starting in the July first is gonna be on 103 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: HBO Max. But Bill, do when you talk about your 104 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: Deep Duke Media Foundation, tell us why it's important and 105 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: why did you started M. Well, Um, it's the same 106 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: reason I thought of my network. M We our generations. 107 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: I think I have an obligation to leave something for 108 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: our children that is better than what we inherited and 109 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: what we are in today. We are in a day 110 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: of division. Um, from the COVID two politics to race. Um, 111 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: what are we leaving our children? And that is the 112 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: real question, because we have to leave them something that 113 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: gives them hope. And so I created my foundation. We 114 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: teach basically two things of media literacy for young people 115 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: are coming into the business and really want to understand 116 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: with the business of the industry really is and how 117 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: it's changing. We went from film and television to media. 118 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: When I when I came up, and I say this 119 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: all the time, I had one of the first cell 120 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: phones and I think you did too, my brother, do 121 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: you remember the size of it? Absolute? Come on now, 122 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: come on, am I exaggerated. I'm holding it next to 123 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: my head. I had it used to hangs and it 124 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: had a box with him maybe the boxing that was 125 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: that was like our first purse. Remember it looked like 126 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: a purse. They had a strap on shoulder you had 127 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: to hold of day like a melo detector. Really, and 128 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: we felt we were cool man, We felt we were 129 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: the stuff right well. And there was no internet then, 130 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: and so I try to talk to him about the 131 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: evolution of things with young people from those times to 132 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: what they have now and how they can leverage it 133 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: to their benefit of their brands, not just being an 134 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: actor or director, but what do you believe in? What 135 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: is your brand? And how are you gonna fight for it? 136 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Learn the technology, learned the disciplines that go along with 137 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: So we teach them financial literacy. Um, and we'll talk 138 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: about today, I'm sure. But there are people and you 139 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: and I both know this for a fact, that make 140 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars or more. My brother or broke. 141 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: How do you make a hundred million dollars and go boke? 142 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: Because people teach you how to spend a dollar, but 143 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: not how to use a dollar. And so we teach 144 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: young people what is the f d I C. What 145 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: is the Federal Reserve? What is banking? What is what 146 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: is compound interest? What is savings? What is the debt? 147 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: What is the stock market? What are bonds? You know? 148 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: What are you know? Stocks? So, so the thing is 149 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: that we give them an understanding of what money is, 150 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: how it's used, and how you can use it to 151 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: your own benefit, not just spend it, but use it. 152 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: We've of the beauty of knowledge, and that's what you're 153 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: teaching to knowledge, because without knowledge that you became either 154 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: go backwards or your main station area. And that was 155 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: always impacts the black community because we're always battling the 156 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: fighting for education and we're always battling the fighting for opportunity. 157 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: Same thing happened with the COVID nineteen when it hit. 158 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: Who did it effect African Americans and people of color? 159 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: Why at least educated? Uh, We're living in living conditions 160 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: with mass transit situations and also naturally poor diety situations. 161 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: And so then that becomes why is that important and 162 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: why is it important to note where the bank account is. 163 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: WI isn't know what percentages are, wisn't know if you're 164 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: in the district, there's gonna you know, do unfair housing 165 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: on you. You know, we continually can't get ahead because 166 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: we're spending a different dollar. And that's what you're trying 167 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: to say right now in this interview, correct Bill, do yes, sir. 168 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get us to understand what money is, 169 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: how we can use it to our benefit. And that's 170 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: what we teach young people in our foundation, because if 171 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we as a culture to do it ourselves. 172 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: We can't depend upon others doing it for us. And 173 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: so the men and women in our community have to 174 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: pass on what we've learned from our mistakes so that 175 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: our young people don't make the same mistakes. You know, 176 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: I when you know, when I look through my life, 177 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: you know I would say that I have made mistakes, 178 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: but I don't know if they have mistakes or the experiences. 179 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: Because if you learn from it, then it's not a mistake. 180 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: But you continue to make the same mistake, then there's 181 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: a problem because you didn't learn. And so I've advanced 182 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: myself called politics, politics, it's called it's called being able 183 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: to to to to negotiate the right situation. Because you 184 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: know yourself, Bill, your your career has been tied to relationships. 185 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Your career has been tied to people extending their hand, 186 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: either by surprise or one that you may sure you 187 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: was in the position to shape. And that's what also 188 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: in the financial word that you're teaching that you have 189 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: to let black people understand. And now I'll talk about 190 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: it all the time. We can talk a little Hollywood talk. 191 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: It's like I've been in Hollywood since ninety two. Okay, 192 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: first writing job, I did stand up comic Pride to that, 193 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: and I just always see these white producers go on 194 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: meetings while they were working. They have a writer job. 195 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: They go, they're looking for another job, established the relationships. 196 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: We don't think like that. And if they got terminated 197 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: or the contract they get to extent, they shook their 198 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: hands that thank you for the opportunity and said the 199 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: traditionally African American people of color get mad, frustrated, pointing fingers. Okay, 200 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: guess what you're blowing that relationship. The relationship is that 201 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: things don't always go the way you play. Act like it. Okay, 202 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: understand the value of your money. Am I wrong in 203 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: these assessments that I'm making The build you are brilliantly 204 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: putting it together. Um milk him X said something. He 205 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: said two things that I learned a lot from. First 206 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: he said, don't be playing checkers in the chess game. 207 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: And number two, he said, no matter how good a 208 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: football player you are, at the name of the game 209 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: is baseball. You but to get yourself a damn back 210 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: because your competition is gonna say you're a good You're 211 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: a good, good, good little football player. Keep running them 212 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: out of the basics. You're good, right, And they were, 213 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: they were, they hitting home runs. Are back. We have 214 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: to be again to understand the game, how it's played, 215 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: what the rules are. We can make our own game also, 216 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is is that we 217 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: have to study the knowledgeable, take the time to learn 218 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: and understand the business. No, you're on my show here today, 219 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: money may comes Bill, do talk about no sudden mood 220 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: just debate in July first on HBO Max and you 221 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: know the brilliant producer, director Stephen Salderberg. But prior to 222 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: all going on the air, you mentioned the word bid 223 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: with you know, like like that like did did you 224 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: not mention that to me? Yes? I mentioned with uh 225 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: And and they send people to Boston on trains when 226 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: they lose, and when people play me, they learn from me. 227 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: I teach so so you know anytime you've read I'm 228 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: gonna teach. I love my young students. Anytime, let me know. 229 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: I'll fly it. Bill. What you're gonna do to me? Man, 230 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: see what you ain doing? Fly me in, whoop my butt, 231 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: and then fly me back. And if that didn't happen 232 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: like that, because that gives you more smack brown. Okay, 233 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fly myself. And you see, people don't know 234 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Bill like I know Bill. They just see that little 235 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: dark character. You know, sentister, you know, don't ever smile 236 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: you walking a room. He might shoot you, knife you, 237 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, to send you to hell burn. That's the 238 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: Bill y'all know. Or moves to TV. This the Bill 239 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: I know right here, you know, smack talk off a 240 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: laughing all the time. Uh go go tell me I 241 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: come from filth war in Texas. I grew up with 242 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: number black people. He gonna ask me off. Have you 243 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: ever heard of Bell with just only asking me to 244 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: I know dominoes. See, you can't insult me like that. No, mobile, dude, men, 245 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna have problems I'm just I'm I was just exploring, 246 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, I was asking you a question right right right, 247 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: that he was a brother brother the brother right there 248 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: was the brother of the brother conversation. Okay, cool, Okay. 249 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: I just had to bring that up in the middle 250 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: of this very important interview about our relationship. And it's 251 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: still intact, it's still strong, and we'll keep winning. Now, 252 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: let's it back to the movie. That's why you brought 253 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: the dog che Anything I see with dog To, I know, 254 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: straight up gonna be serious. Talk about the movie. Talk 255 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: about your involvement. You work with Stephen before and other 256 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: movie projects, so it's a relationship there. Talk about your 257 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: involvement in this movie. First of all, I want to 258 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: thank Stephen for putting me in the movie. And I 259 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: worked with him, you know, the Lining, High Flying Bird, 260 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: and this is my third film working with him and 261 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: working with Matt Damon and Don Chetto with Blessing a Gift, 262 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: with a great time don Cheto, as you said, serious films, 263 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: but he is one of on set, one of the 264 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: funniest people I've ever met in my life. He has 265 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: an incredible sense of humor, a great heart, just great people, 266 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, and making the movie. We're in Detroit. By 267 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: the way, I've said this before, Detroit is changing. They're 268 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: really cleaning the city up. They're restoring the old like 269 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, the older historical buildings like churches, et cetera. 270 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: And it was great to see the city come back 271 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: to life and then move beyond that. It's like really 272 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: some good things absolutely besides great food. Now we just 273 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: said Don Cheetle and Matt David got really older than there, 274 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: John Hamm, Brendan Fraser, David Arbor. But you see what 275 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: their toro come on? Now, man, that's a who's who, 276 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: a great acting a lot of people and that you 277 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: know when you're get in the room like that build 278 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: because you know it's all like a good basketball team. 279 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: You know, you could you see all these good basketball players. 280 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: You want to make sure your free throws are right, 281 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: your job shot right, you're grabbing the rebound. How do 282 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: you approach that when you're in the scene with talented 283 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: other people? Does A does A I gotta get my 284 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: act together, I gotta make sure I'm on porn? Or 285 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: do you do? You do? You do? You talk to him? 286 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: But prior to a scene, how does want to approach 287 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: that if you're a young person breaking into the business, well, 288 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: if you're a young person breaking into the business, it's 289 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: called show business. Business part is about relationships, and so 290 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: you have to put your you know, Wayne Dyre says, 291 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: every day we have one of two choices. If we 292 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: could be a host to God or a hostage to 293 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: our ego. Uh. In this business, if your hostage to 294 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: your egos, some people get away with it. But for 295 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: us as a culture, I think that's a really bad idea. 296 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: I think establishing relationships uh, and honing your craft, because 297 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: acting and directing our craft. So it's writing or other 298 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: people are out partying, you should be home studying, learning. 299 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: Because when you party, you've accomplished something. It's called the celebration. 300 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: So the thing is is that we have to really 301 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: start taking it seriously. Today we're saying before life came 302 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: into business, there was no internet, there was no social media. 303 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: Young people today, Yeah, pictures are important. But if you're 304 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: an acting class that you all should be in, and 305 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: you're working on two or three scenes with other actors 306 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: with the class, then what you should do is if 307 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: you want to picture plus a reel film with your 308 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: cell phone, the scene that you're rehearsing right, you can 309 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: cut that scene on your computer right and edited, so 310 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to wait to be discovered. You can 311 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: you can discover your Look a look at Easter Rey 312 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 1: for example. She started off with, like you know, podcast 313 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: and web series. That's well wepisodes and so did uh 314 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: it's always sending in Philadelphia start off with webisodes. Been 315 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: on the air for nine years. So those people they 316 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: stopped waiting to make any sense absolutely well. I think 317 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: that when you when you look at about a lot 318 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: of people do wait too long. They want that that. 319 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: I always tell people waiting on the lottery, you know 320 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: they wait doing that opportunity. They really do. Think it 321 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: works in Hollywood. You're gonna walk down the street and 322 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: somebody gonna tap you on the shoulder. That is not 323 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: high work. That is you may have heard that story, 324 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: but that's what that's what like winning the lottery. There 325 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: are people who do win the tapping on the shoulder. 326 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: M hm. You know that you know who's going to 327 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: tapping on the shoulder person, Tell you get out the 328 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: way because they want to get in front of you. Yeah. Absolutely, 329 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: and that gets tapped a lot That's a lot of 330 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: people understand about the entertainment, you know, because you know 331 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: this for a fact, they are going in in a 332 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: movie like this. And let's give you a little bit 333 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: more background on No Sudden Mood. It's a Gritish story 334 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: which takes place in nineteen fifty four and the racially 335 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: charged Detroit. And we know Detroit has always been a 336 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: community where where where the police has an issue, it 337 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: was black you know Motown was there a group of 338 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: small time criminals who are hired on the mysterious circumstances 339 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: to steal what they think is a simple document. They 340 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: file up the master plan and guess what, it all 341 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: goes as they say to hell. And you include all 342 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: these situations. So you have black people and white people 343 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: trying to work together in nineteen fifty four. Right there, 344 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: that tells you it's gonna be intense because you know, 345 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: you deal it would doug high levels of racial prejudice 346 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: and also a black people just came around like white 347 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: people came back then. It's right, So how did what 348 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: role do you play in all of this? Bill Douke? Well, 349 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: you you so brilliantly and accurately described the conditions of 350 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: the time. Uh and um, in those days, you had 351 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: confrontations based upon race and social positions. So if you 352 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: were black, you had to be able, as I said before, 353 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: to be able to play chess in the chess games. 354 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: So if they, you know, had negotiators with them, you 355 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: have to negotiate. If the negotiations didn't go well and 356 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: they had guns, you had to have guns. So you know, 357 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: you you could not negotiate with someone who felt you 358 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: were weak and unprepared. The only way you could negotiate 359 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: with them is to look him in the eye. And 360 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: they understood the consequences of disrespecting you. M So I 361 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: played the head of the black gang and we negotiate 362 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: over some issues that I don't want to give away. 363 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: Now give a movie away, but we are negotiators and 364 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: they don't expect us to be that and they're surprised 365 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: by it, but they do negotiate with us. Now, let 366 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: me know when you look at movies, because we've seen 367 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: how covid has changed the game, and also streaming networks Netflix, Amazon, 368 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, Hulu, Disney Plus have changed the game. They 369 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: opened in movies that were opening the theater, opening online 370 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: and streaming and all they're doing the simul simulcast They simulcastically. 371 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: They're like they they were Cruella Crewella opening in the 372 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: theater as well as Old Disney Plus and in their 373 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: premium network. Have you seen a change in the quality 374 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: or it doesn't matter. They steer producing high quality movies 375 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: even for streaming as well as for the big theaters. 376 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: Some of them are high quality and some of them 377 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: are not. Some people are giving cameras to make movies 378 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: and they they've never studied directing, They've never studied writing 379 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: or anything because of relationship they have with a relative, 380 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: somebody who has money. But I I I still believe 381 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: in people who take the time to study their discipline. 382 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna say it's easy. It's not. But 383 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: you have to know, you know, you have to read books. 384 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: You know, you have to you know, you you have 385 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: to be able to understand structure, not only the structure 386 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: of the movie, but what is character structure. You know, 387 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: what is the beginning, middle, and end of the movie. 388 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: What is the storyline? What is the character line? How 389 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: do you hook people in emotionally to what you're talking about? 390 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: Those are crafts and skills that should be studied, you know, 391 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: and there are books at schools you can go to. UM. 392 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: You know that. You know that. One of the great 393 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: books by Joseph Campbell's A Hero with a Thousand Faces. 394 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: Even Steelberg, all those people use a hero of a 395 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: thousand faces, and so do I. Another great book is 396 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: by Machili, The Five Season Cinematography. It's another It's another 397 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: great book, you know. UM. Another great uh book is 398 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: you know Sun Super Wroalthy Art of War. The the 399 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: The War of Art is another great book. Talks about 400 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: how we procrastinatese and make excuses for not doing what 401 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: we know we should be doing, and what are the 402 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: patterns of that and how to get out of that. 403 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: So studying our craft, studying things, I think it's very 404 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: important for young people a company uh No sudden moves 405 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: of talking to Bill Duke about the movie that premiers 406 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: July first on HBO. Max Uh it's a great movie, 407 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: she said in nineteen fifty four. It's about black people 408 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: white people. You know they will know of video phones 409 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: back there. You know, police violence still existed, It has 410 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: existed all our lives as an African American. We know that. 411 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: But when you look at what you've done. I talked 412 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: about the Duke Media Foundation. I talked about that, but 413 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: I always want to ship before we get off the 414 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: air and talk about you unite Unite network that I 415 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: believe starts July twenty one, but you say there's up 416 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: and running June tent talk about the purpose of that 417 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: and why the importance of the Unite network. That's why unite. 418 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: First of all, you will have the the page of 419 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: the um of our of our efforts up in the 420 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: mount June tenth, and on the first week in July, 421 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: we will have a really serious soft launch. And I'm 422 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: putting a network together because I have children in my life. 423 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: I have a god daughter, I have children that I 424 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: love God sons sons, and I think we have responsibility 425 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: to leave them something called hope. Right now, when you 426 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: turn the news on, it's all bad. I mean, we're 427 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: being divided in ways that we've always been a divided 428 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: country basically etceuter but now taking a whole other level 429 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: with the COVID, with racism, with the politics we're being 430 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: divided in. Division is only going to leave chaos for 431 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: our children. So I in my network instead of the 432 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: bad news on the negativity, but we report are all 433 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: the good things that are happening in this world. There 434 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: are people around the world that are doing great. There's 435 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: a program and I wish people watch it once a 436 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: year on CNN called CNN Heroes. If you're it's a 437 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: show about individuals who are doing good and that's what 438 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: should be reported. So I have a network that really 439 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: is devoted to leave hope for our children, to give 440 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: them a historical context of all the sacrifices that have 441 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: been made so they could be here today and do 442 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: what they do. And so we have a number of 443 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: different programs on the network. I have the support from 444 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: people that Anthony Anderson, Centric, the Entertainer Um, a lot 445 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: of good folks, and so we're launching it and we 446 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: hope people check it out. Well, you know the uh 447 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: you know that was that was a cue and a 448 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: cap of right there? You know that with no sigma 449 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: and and Sigma's happened you out and your near I'm 450 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: just saying, you know that was some other fraternity members 451 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: there that that you just mentioned there, Mr Bill, do 452 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: you know just let you know that you know there 453 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: are some stigmas that okay, okay, but you just didn't 454 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: mention them there though. Bill you didn't mention them though, Bill, No, 455 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying. I'm just saying, told the respect. 456 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: I understand your pop position, told position. I love you man, 457 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: I love it, man, I kid to laugh first man 458 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: hbo b uh, Steve Soderberg casting, the amazing cast, Don Cheeto, 459 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: Matt Damon, Raleoo, John Hamburn, the Fraser and most important 460 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: initial Del Toro, most important my man, Bill to do 461 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: back on the screen, big screen, small screen. I love 462 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: him always, man, because that smiles amazing, this personality dynamic. 463 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: And I will be flying myself into Los Angeles cally 464 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: to beat you and be with young man. Hear me 465 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: on that. Okay, guess what, sir, I'm gonna send you 466 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: a bus to boss from l A. I love you man, 467 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: you stay strong, Bill Duke. Okay, thank you so much, man, 468 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We will be right back with more 469 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: money making conversations with your host ras Sean McDonald. You 470 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: are now tuned into the money making conversations. Minute of 471 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: inspiration with Rashan McDonald's Timori to star our Family Reunion 472 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: recall spending years being incorrectly treated for her debilitating abdominal pain. 473 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: This experience inspired tilla to sell healthy vitamin supplements. 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Welcome back to 520 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: money making Conversations with your host, Rashaan McDonald on. My 521 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: next guest is an industry decision maker. Her name is 522 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Diana Williams. She has an entertainment powerhouse who is a 523 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: beloved advocate and authority in black music. The legendary on 524 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: that personality is a trailblazer and broadcasting music activism and 525 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: celebrity media strategy. Her celebrity clientele includes Grammy Award winners, executives, actors, 526 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: and athletes. Some notable names of clients include Rihanna, Charlie Wilson, 527 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: got another hit song out now, Janelle Mona. She acts 528 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: to now. If y'all don't know about her, just the 529 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: name a few. She's also serving on the board of 530 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: the National Museum of African American Music in Nashville. That 531 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: is why she's on the show, among other wonderful things 532 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about, because this is Black Music Month, 533 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: where she chairs the Music Industry Relationship Collective. Please working 534 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: with the money making conversations. The mother of Black Music Month, 535 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: Deanna Williams. I saw thought I sneaked that in on 536 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: your girlfriend, biological mother of three children. You stuck it 537 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: on you. Look here we go old school shop is attack. 538 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that because I'm trying to go 539 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: down there. I'm trying to I'm trying to maintain because 540 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: my world is so crazy, it's so busy, I'm pulled 541 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: in so many different directions. When this is kind of 542 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: like calming. When I do these interviews with people I 543 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: care about, people I respect, and giving you a voice 544 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: in this business. And sometimes because of the fact that 545 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: you know whether you're playing music, we don't know you. 546 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: And then I try to pull back that curtain and 547 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: let let people understand that the different layers that you 548 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: have currently and then some of the things you position 549 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: us to to celebrate currently and tod to this week, 550 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: especially today. In eighteen seventy nine, forty two years ago, 551 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, you went to Jimmy Carter. Actually Kenny Gamble 552 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: and I were dressing. We were home excited that a 553 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: dream that Gamble initiated with the conception of Black Music Month. 554 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: We were on our way to the White House to 555 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: participate paid in a picnic on the south lawn of 556 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: the White House that President and Russell and Carter hosted 557 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: for two hundred members primarily of the Black Music Association, 558 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: with performances by Billy Eckstein, Chuck Berry, Andre Crouch, Sarah 559 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Powell, Evelyn Champagne, Kid MFSB under the direction of 560 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: dexter Ones. That it was a heavy day. I was 561 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: a young girl. I was excited. It was wonderful. So 562 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: today is the actual forty second anniversary, as you mentioned 563 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: on well, you know the employtants of music. Wow, when 564 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: I think about music and especially in the African American community, 565 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: you know how music is such an emotional is used 566 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: to motivate people, is used to inspire sports, sports sporting 567 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: events as you used in weddings, is used at funeral 568 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: uh celebrations, done some of just to just to set 569 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: the tone on the elevator. Talk about us about music, right, 570 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: Why does music resonate so much in a person's life, 571 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: lifestyle period. Yes, great, great question. I think all music resonates, 572 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: But my focus and concentration is on black music, America's 573 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: indigenous music art forms established here in the United States, 574 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: from the blues to gospel to American classical which is jazz, 575 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: R and B, rock and roll people all created by Rosetta, 576 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: Thar Chuck, Barry, bo Didley, don't get it twisted. Elvis 577 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: was an imitator, not the originator, and so we have 578 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: a rich legacy in America with this majestic various genres. 579 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: And what's important to Rashan is that, you know, when 580 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: you're talking about money making matters, well, black music generates 581 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: billions of dollars annually and right now the number one 582 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: genre in the world happens to be hip hop. So 583 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: music and black music in particular, it's a universal language 584 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: that has felt, if not overstood, by billions on the planet. 585 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: You know, when you say hip hop, you know say 586 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: you know because I grew up you know, I grew 587 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: up to you know, the forty five single, you know, 588 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: with the Franklin, the old J's, and then the Mothership landed. 589 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: You know, oh my god, when he landed, he changed 590 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: the whole music. You know, that's from bands existed. Now 591 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: you don't see bands anymore like you used to talk 592 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: about that little transition from because I mean when I 593 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: was growing up in college, you know, there was nothing 594 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: for me to see eight to ten guys on stage. 595 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: Even local bands were like that deep. It was like 596 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: enjoying that moment. Then then hip hop came away, and 597 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: the instruments went away and the DJ replaced them. And 598 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: now I don't see that at all anymore. Any musicians 599 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: well blamed on technology. With the invention of garage fan 600 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: and pro tools, people were able to have a computer 601 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: a laptop in their home and be able to access 602 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: all the instruments. And also the demise in many school 603 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: districts of music. I don't know about you, but I 604 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: remember when I was growing up in Manhattan, in Harlem 605 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: and Washington Heights, we had to take ban we had 606 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: to have jim These are required subjects. However, now many 607 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: school districts, because of economics, have cut back music programming, 608 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: So I would blame the lack of bands. And mind you, 609 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: they are still some bands, but not what century are 610 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: we talking about. You and I grew up in the 611 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: twentieth century, so our generation we had no choice but 612 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: to play instruments and to sing. But now with the technology, 613 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: things have changed immensely. And as you mentioned the rise 614 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 1: of hip hop, you don't you don't need a full band. 615 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: It's a DJ and the m C and the hype. 616 00:36:53,880 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: Gotta conclude that hype going no talent. But is there 617 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: at their talent? Now? When we look at music and 618 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: I look at my life tied to music, I can 619 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: tell you it's certain songs right now. You know, because 620 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: you know music videos played a major role in our 621 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: visual part of music. You know because now I will 622 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: go to a music video. Uh. In certain parts of 623 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: my life, I go to if I hear a something, 624 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: I go to a party, if I go to if 625 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: I hear brick cars, I knew exactly I was at 626 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: a frat party right now, I can I can see 627 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: if I get that song, I know exactly if it 628 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: has zoomed. I would go to a pool party where 629 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: I was trying to sing. I know exactly where I 630 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: was at. I remember when when when Pete Funk landed, 631 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: I was on the basketball court trying in the basketball 632 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: was so cold that almost broke my fingers when they 633 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: passed me the ball. All these things are so important. 634 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: So now we're get into June being black black music man. 635 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: And then you guys went to President Card at the time. 636 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: What was the inspiration behind that? Yeah, the inspiration was 637 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: Kenny Gamble, who is in the Rock and Roll Hall 638 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: of Fame with his partner leon Ah. They are the 639 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: co architects along with Tom Bell of T S o P. 640 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: The Sound of Philadelphia. Gamble visited Nashville and saw what 641 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: the Country Music Association was doing in terms of branding 642 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: not just a genre, country music, but also a city 643 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: and thought, we need to do that. So he came 644 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: back and established the Black Music Association the b m A, 645 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: and from that he conceived of a month much like 646 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: we have February, Black History Month, and other months that 647 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: put a focus on highlight on different things. Cancer Awareness Month, 648 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: HIV Awareness Month, Asian Pacific. You know, all those months 649 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: are an opportunity to highlight and celebrate the individuals involved 650 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: in that month. So Black Music Month. He reached out 651 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: to Clarence Avant, who reached out to the White House 652 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: and President car this administration, and hence the first celebration 653 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: of June Black Music Month took place June seventh, nineteen 654 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: seventy nine. And so that was the origin story of 655 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: that is what happened. And Gamble and I were a 656 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: couple at that time. We have three beautiful adult children, 657 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: and a very handsome six and a half year old 658 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: came over here and broke some of my art the 659 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: other day. But that was the beginning, and he and 660 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: I were a couple at the time. So in the 661 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 1: Black Music Association, I worked to get Black Music Month, 662 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: worked hard to get it recognized, and it wasn't until 663 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: two thousand that President Bill Clinton, after I lobbied Congress 664 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: for three years, officially recognized it in the American government 665 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: and from the perspective of the White House. So every 666 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: American president since Bill Clinton has signed a proclamation. President 667 00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: Biden just released his recently recognizing June as Black Music Month. 668 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting you say that, because you know, 669 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: I've been fortunate to be a part of radio in 670 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: the early nineties and Houston Magic one oh two, and 671 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: I didn't you know, I know it's seven nine and 672 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: it has been recognized, but I didn't get a feel 673 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: for it until two thousand when Steve Harvey now was 674 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: on radio on two point three to Beat in l A. 675 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden it became like, you know, 676 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: advertisers wanted to advertised doing black music mark, and then 677 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: you started having events tied to that in black music mark. 678 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: And so when you when you you said something notably 679 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: that you know, Gamble he went to Nashville. He saw 680 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: what they were doing with country and Western music. Now, 681 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: the National Museum of African American Music, it's in Nashville, 682 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: talking we go. What I didn't know when I first 683 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: accepted involvement with the museum and the aconym is named now, 684 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Nashville has such a rich legacy 685 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: in history as pertained to black music, absolutely in gospel music, 686 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: in R and B and rock. Jimi Hendricks lived in 687 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: Nashville for a period of time. Last check. He was 688 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: a big time rocker of one of the fathers of 689 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: rock music. And so Nashville it just happened to be 690 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: the city where the private sector, wealthy individuals government, the 691 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: city as well as the state government came together and 692 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: it's a twenty two year in the making project, which 693 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: is astonishing. I've only been involved the last seven years, 694 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: which you figured. When I first got involved, I was 695 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: looking at blueprints. Now as about a month ago, I 696 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: walked into a fabulous, modern, very contemporary American history museum 697 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: that is dealing with our contributions to all genre starting 698 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: in sixteen nineteen when enslaved Africans were kidnapped and brought 699 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: to the shores of what is now the United States 700 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: of America. So, yes, we're in Nashville in the heart 701 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 1: of now and listen, you've got to come. As my guest, 702 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm inviting you all to come because it is amazing. 703 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: I literally cried the first five minutes that I was 704 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: in the lobby of the museum. It is spectacular. Seven 705 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: galleries over fifty six thousand square feet and galleries filled 706 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: with artifacts and information and inspiration about our contribution to 707 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: global culture. Well, you know, I would when you say 708 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: you've moved to tears, I would have to believe that's 709 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: on this statement because you've been so associated with music, 710 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: and like I said, music is tied to memories and 711 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: and I know when you in your case, you played 712 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: music some of these artists music. You've been on stage, 713 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: You've introduced these artists, You've had lunch, dinner, shared great 714 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: you know, celebration stories and sad, disappointing stories. What was 715 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: the most what was the biggest takeaway when you walked 716 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: into the museum, which is now based in Nashville, is open. Uh, 717 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, the ceremonies gonna We're gonna talk about the 718 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: ceremonies in a minute in the notele who are going 719 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: to be there, but talk about that moment really, because 720 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: I have to believe it was really breathtaking for you, 721 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: and also in a level of disbelief. The disbelief not 722 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: so much because we all worked very hard. I worked, 723 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 1: I chaired co chaired of Phil Thornton two functions where 724 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: we raise money for the museum, but more astonishment at 725 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 1: what we can do when we really apply ourselves, because again, 726 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: this was an idea at some point and snow bald. 727 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: And so what was my big takeaway from the museum 728 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: is that we are wealthy black folks. We are wealthy 729 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: in creativity and it is obvious and demonstrated in this museum, 730 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: and as a woman who is dedicated, I've dedicated my 731 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: entire life to the promotion, perpetuation, the preservation of Black music. 732 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: We are are slogan now as black music has a home, 733 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: and I feel like my work is in that building. 734 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: A great deal of my work is in that building. 735 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: So I am elated to be involved, and I'm encouraging 736 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: everyone to come and get that emotional feeling. If you 737 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: look and go to UH National Museum of African American 738 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: Music nay ma'am dot org, you'll see videos, You'll see images, 739 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: and you'll also see testimonies from families that have visited 740 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: the museum and had a very visceral experience, much like 741 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: I did when I first game. I know that I 742 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: talked to cel Eldredge as the creator and executive of 743 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: Cafe Boca. I know she told me that Radio UH 744 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: was hosted by Lenny Love and u angel Leaque and 745 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: yo yo, they're going to be done that broadcasting. And 746 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: then June seventeen is the grand opening. Well, you know 747 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: you'd be honoring Quincy Jones, Lionel, Richie, Smokey Robinson, Shaka Khan, 748 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: the Fist Jubilee singers, gospel legends right there. So when 749 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 1: you start a grand open celebration with Quincy Jones, then 750 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: you slide over to eas That's I said, Zoomole Richie, 751 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,919 Speaker 1: then Smoking Robs, the cruising you know, come on now, 752 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: you know it's some history walking out. And that's just 753 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: some of the names that are just being mentioned in 754 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: this press release. But talk about the grand opening with 755 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: your June seventeenth. That whole weekend is like a just 756 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: just each day has a forward moving to the next day. 757 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: Talk about that because that's the weekend you want me 758 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: to come down, when you want to come down that 759 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,760 Speaker 1: we want you to come. I'm coming down that weekend. 760 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 1: I got both my COVID shots. I was still gonna 761 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: wear my mask, but I got both my COVID shots. 762 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be down there so I can hook you. 763 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: I want you to come. Yes, you mentioned our esteemed 764 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: honor Reads. These are all people who have made when 765 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: we talk about sizeable contributions to our music and our 766 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: lives and our memories, all those individuals that you mentioned, 767 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: and I think I should also say that Angela Yee 768 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: from the Breakfast Club, who is part of my music 769 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: industry relations Collective is going to be hosting that evening 770 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: and the FIS Jubilee Singers were the first global ambassadors 771 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: of Black music around the world. They were super popular 772 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: and you know, well received in Europe. So we're honoring 773 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: the legacy of the Fifth Jubilee Singers as well. And 774 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: I want to shout out our president and CEO, Henry 775 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: Beecher Hicks, the third, who has done a phenomenal job 776 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: as a leader moving us towards this day. We had 777 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: an actual ribbon cutting back on MLKA Junior Day, but 778 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: the official rand opening of course restricted opening earlier this 779 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 1: year because of COVID and now that people like you 780 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: me are getting vaccinated, we are opening the doors to 781 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: the museum and our block party will also be the 782 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: day of Juneteenth, and we're celebrating Juneteenth and inviting the 783 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: community to come in and see the museum. Now, Jo 784 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: gotta ask all these coutions fear there don't as you 785 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: have to give the museum in general, there are and 786 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: and again people can go to Black Music Museum dot com. 787 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: It's very reasonable. If you become a member, obviously it 788 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: changes uh the membership. However, during this weekend of the 789 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: grand opening The museum is going to be open on 790 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: the block party day when we're celebrating Juneteenth, and open 791 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: to the community at large, but there is a fee. 792 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: And the day that I was there my first visit 793 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: to the museum after you know, seeing it just dirt 794 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: and the construction process. I live in Philly, so I 795 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: go to Nashville for our board meetings. Uh. It was 796 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: quite amazing to see the construction and the completion of 797 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: the museum. But children, school groups were there the day 798 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: and just tons of them, and it really warmed my 799 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: heart because this museum is for families, it's for everyone. 800 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: It's not just for black folks. I want to go 801 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: on the record and say, you have a pulse, you 802 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 1: have a heartbeat, this m this for you, seriously, because 803 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: the reality is most of us, all of us, regardless 804 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: to your musical preference. As you stated at the outside 805 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: of our conversation, black music is an integral part of 806 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: our experience here on this planet, not just here in America, 807 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: but around the world. So our expectation is that we 808 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: will be an international donation of location, expecting people from 809 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: everywhere to come see this is pretty amazing. When I 810 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: when I when I look at you and I talked. 811 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: First of all, uh, it's this board got a lot 812 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: of the great talkers like you a great talker. Field 813 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: Thornton is a great talker. Do you talk about here? 814 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know that highest ranking black man, My ranking 815 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: black man is joining our board. Um Vince Gill Country 816 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: Artists is joining our board. Fantastic. Just you know, some 817 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: pretty dynamic people are have signed up, Monique, I'd let 818 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: some great folks. So I'm honored to serve on this board. 819 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 1: I want to I want to give it a little 820 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: bit about you as a strategist, as a as a 821 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: media planner, as a person that, as they said, a 822 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: whisper whisper because in New York Times, you know the 823 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: thing about it when I because I've been fortunate to 824 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: manage talent right talent and produce talent. And you know, 825 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: every talent is different, and I think with a lot 826 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: of people make mistakes, especially agencies, they try to sign 827 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: up a bunch of people and then they try to 828 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: treat them all the same, and you know that's not 829 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: the case. You know they'll be successful with anybody. You 830 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: have to hear their story here, their pain, here, their joy, 831 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: and then try to disseminate the right course of action 832 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 1: for that person. So when it comes to that, because 833 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: as a strategist, you really are managed your too, because 834 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: I know you and I need to sit down and 835 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: talk about some projects because we have a similar lane 836 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: that we always cross when it comes to strategy. And 837 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: people ask me all the time how I'm most How 838 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: can I generate so much success for certain people? First 839 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: of all, I always tell them they have to be 840 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: talented one. Secondly, they have to be willing to work hard, 841 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: because you like them myself, Dianna, You're hard work. You know, 842 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: twenty four hours in a day is twenty four hours 843 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: a day. You're gonna use every hour in it. And 844 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: and the other person is that I think in my 845 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: side of it, they have to be a caring person. 846 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: They have to care about something. And those three qualities 847 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: of the type of qualities where I work hard for 848 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 1: it because I care about people. I'm a hard worker. 849 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: And then I'm also I have a strong belief in 850 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 1: my talent that I want to share with that person 851 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 1: to to to develop their talent. What are your thoughts 852 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 1: when you talk to when people approach you or you 853 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: approach them about your strategy planning. Well, I've had the blessing, 854 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, for the last twenty seven years, concurrent 855 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,720 Speaker 1: to me being on the radio and television to coach 856 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: a plethora of emerging and established talents, not just recording 857 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 1: artists you mentioned Rihanna some of my reporting artists, but 858 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: I've also worked with c e o s, managers, actors, directors, 859 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: all manner of talent. And the first thing I'm looking 860 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: for is personality because that is part of what attracts 861 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: of the human beings is do you have the capacity 862 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: and the talent UH and the knowledge, the expertise in 863 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: your particular area and the willingness to learn. That is 864 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: so critical to me and my process when I'm coaching individuals. 865 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 1: So um yeah, twenty seven years my company, I'm the 866 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: CEO of Influence Entertainment. UH. You can go to the 867 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: website Influence Entertainment dot com to learn more about us 868 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: and part of what my company does. In addition to 869 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: media coaching and artist development, very much in the tradition 870 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: of Mrs Maxine Powell, who was Marry Gordy's artist development 871 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: and media coach person UH is also we produce events. 872 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: I produced the Marian Anderson Award in Philadelphia at the 873 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: Kimmel cent Up for the Performing Arts. For years, I 874 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: did it with Pat Moran and uh last year we 875 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: honored well not during the pandemic, teen Cool in the 876 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,919 Speaker 1: Gang the year before that, Patty LaBelle Gambled and Huff 877 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: John Bon, Jovie Berry, Gordy. So I'm a que native 878 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 1: producer and I love I love conceptualizing and actualizing. I'm 879 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: big on that. My parents taught me anything that your 880 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: mind can conceive and believe, you can achieve. So that's 881 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,240 Speaker 1: what my company does. That's what I've been doing. And again, 882 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: radio has been important, and you know this from your 883 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: years in media. Have the platform to be able to 884 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: reach hundreds of thousands, millions of individuals with feel good 885 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,240 Speaker 1: and information that's of value to their lives. The quality 886 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: of their lives is what I'm all about. So you know, Diana, 887 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: when I when I listened to you, and you know, 888 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: I do bow down to you. You know, because listen 889 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: to what you just said. She said. Athletes, she said, actors, 890 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 1: she said, singers, she said, exacutive. Each one of those 891 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: lanes is unique. Now I tell you I can't mess 892 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: with music. Okay, it is so complicated it you know, uh, 893 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, comedian, I got you, after I got your athlete, 894 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: I got your executive music. She throws that in like 895 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: it's nothing. So so if you go to that website, 896 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful website. I go to the website, I'll 897 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: I'll be stealing out this. Can you make our website 898 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: look like her? Because it's so pretty, you know, it's 899 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,760 Speaker 1: so flow, it flows, it looks big, it looks great, 900 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,280 Speaker 1: it looks like you want to move more about this brand. 901 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: When you go to her website, it's amazing. But I 902 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 1: just want to slow it down here. When we start 903 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: talking about you know, her be on the board or 904 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: the Black Music Museum that's that's opening and the grand 905 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: openings July June seventeen in Nashville, I want to talk 906 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: about the individual her brand. She says, executive, like, Okay, 907 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, I do executives. You know I do athletes. 908 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: I do actors and actresses, which is both you know 909 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, male and female. Okay, these singers, but 910 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 1: then the singers, then she throws into the rappers, which 911 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,280 Speaker 1: is a totally different world. Then you have the old school, 912 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: then you have the new school. And then Janelle Mona. 913 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: She kind of like pop and then she then you 914 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: have Rihanna, she kind of like pop black. But what 915 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: is she? Come on, girl? You all just suffing special. Listen, 916 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: I'm with you in terms of anything. Like I said 917 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: that the mind can conceive and believe, you kind of achieve. 918 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: My parents raised me to squeeze this lemon and to 919 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: get everything out of the experience of living. I am 920 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: living every second in fullness. I am. I love life, 921 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,240 Speaker 1: and I love people. I love my fellow human beings. 922 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm a little annoyed with their behaviors, sometimes downright, 923 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, angry with people who are not righteous, kind, 924 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: loving and considerate. But for the most part, I am 925 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: grateful to be alive. I'm elated to have this opportunity 926 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 1: to speak with you and your audience about my passions. 927 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: And you know, the other question I get is, how 928 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: can we celebrate black music? Stream the music of the 929 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 1: artists you love, by the music now things are opening up. 930 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: Go out here, live music by the merch of the 931 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 1: artists that you love. Sit with young children and tell 932 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,399 Speaker 1: them about the artists that you listen to and loved 933 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: when you were growing up. And it conversely, listened to 934 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: them about who they're listening to. Having intergenerational moment when 935 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: you're hearing what they like. You know, it's not just 936 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 1: all about what you like. Be exposed and consider. So 937 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: there's so many ways that you can engage. My grandson 938 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 1: was here this past weekend read books on famous musicians, teach, learn, celebrate. 939 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 1: Black Music Month is for all of us. And it's 940 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: not to say that we do not celebrate the music 941 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: beyond June. It's an everyday celebration. Dune just happens to 942 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: be the concentrated moment. Okay, Okay, Diana, I got all 943 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: that I'm talking about you. Okay, you just you just 944 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: broke off with this a little speech about the museum. 945 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about you girl. You know see, actually we 946 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: say gamble and all that we talk about to feel thor. 947 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. Your talents so unique, identifying and 948 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: helping other talented people. That's part of the UA that 949 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: I have to be able to me that other people. 950 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: As part of my talent, My talent is being on 951 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: the radio, talking, being on television disseminating information. My talent 952 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: is not cooking so well, which is why my man 953 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 1: was like babe. But what I just try to say 954 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 1: is in my interview with you, and I've interviewed you before, 955 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 1: and I'm always amazed at the humbleness of your talents 956 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: and and and and sometimes the humbleness is good and 957 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: bad because sometimes because when your humble, people don't recognize 958 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: you for your gifts because they can they can just 959 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: assume it's just part of your your resume. And I 960 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: just wanted to slow down and say I brought you 961 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 1: own here to talk about the museum, the grand opening, 962 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: Black Music mone and June seventeen is when the three 963 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 1: days celebrations is gonna start. You work as a board 964 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: member and all those great things, but also to acknowledge 965 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 1: your brilliance, and that the brilliance is being able to 966 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 1: go in the room and being able to not be 967 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 1: intimidated about communicating. And that's what you just said. It's 968 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 1: about communicating. It's about your parents giving you the will 969 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: to be great. And that's what this That's why I 970 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: will tell people. You know, when you be the young kid, 971 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: you can you can change their lifestyle by either supporting 972 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 1: them or telling them what they can do. And that's 973 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: who I see you. You are a person who ne's 974 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 1: never heard that word, and you promote that, and that's 975 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: why you immediately defer to Rushan, I hear you. But 976 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: let's support black music, let's black merchandise, let's let's buy 977 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: the music. But you are, you are a renaissance woman, 978 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: and I wanted to just say thank you and take 979 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: these few minutes because you know you're special and and 980 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: this platform allows me to say that publicly to you. 981 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: And I say it with a lot of honesty because 982 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: you know you you You're You're the reason this museum 983 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: is here. It started four to two years ago, okay, 984 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 1: it is start fifteen twenty, it started forty two years ago, 985 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: and you were part of that. That's why it exists 986 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: today at Nashville. Thank you, Dana Williams. We will be 987 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,439 Speaker 1: right back with more money making conversations with your host 988 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. You are now tuned into the money making Conversations. 989 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: Minute of Inspiration with Rushan McDonald. I spoke with NBC 990 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 1: Today's show co host Our Broke about achieving the life 991 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: of happiness and success through the power of Yes. It's 992 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: not about the money, but more about pursuing the opportunity. 993 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: I love what I do to be in this industry. 994 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: People say, oh, you work so hard. I said, you 995 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: know what, My dad drove a bus for eight hours 996 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: a day, worked a lot of overtime. Sometimes we wouldn't 997 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: see him for a couple of days. That's really hard work. 998 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: This is work, But I love what I'm doing. It's 999 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: not a job. It's my fashion. So if in the 1000 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 1: long term this is going to bring me something, I 1001 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 1: don't know if it is or not. But all I 1002 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: know is that if I give somebody else the opportunity 1003 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: to do it, then I don't get that opportunity. So 1004 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: I will put in the hours, I will bust my 1005 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: thought to do it because I want whatever's going to 1006 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 1: come after, not somebody else. 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Welcome 1043 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: back to money Making Conversations with your host, Rashan McDonald. 1044 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: My guest is one of my all time favorite friends 1045 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 1: as well as entrepreneurs, is Chef Jernard Wells. He's this 1046 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 1: year he's the official host a Real Man Cook National 1047 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: Virtual Event, broadcasting live on Father's Day from Centennial Olympic 1048 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Park in Atlanta, Georgia. This is their annual celebration of 1049 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 1: Black Fathers and future dishes prepared by celebrity chefs, celebrity 1050 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 1: fathers and everyday fathers. Chef Gennard recently want another national 1051 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: ward for his cooking TV show New Soul Kitchen on 1052 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,959 Speaker 1: Cleo TV at the Taste Awards. Chef Genar is also 1053 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: a certified nutritionists and it's been on that mission and 1054 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: improve his own health. So he figured out why not 1055 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: make his own line of supplements. We're here, I got 1056 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: it all here, y'all. Think at all these papers about 1057 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 1: him when he coming, my soul chief, you know well 1058 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: is selling. He is the He a pitchman to y'all. 1059 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 1: By the way, please welcome the money. Make conversations. My 1060 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 1: good friend, the best chef that I know. Chef you 1061 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: know well, hello, you know it's always pleasant. Man, Stop laughing. 1062 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: We'll stop laughing. Then we'll stop laughing. My producer should go, 1063 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Could you clear up your death? No? No, I can't 1064 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: clean my death because I all this about chef. You 1065 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: know well, he didn't printed out everything. Make sure if 1066 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: I just the kids, I can't read. He got a 1067 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: real big ain't nothing. I could have wrote it down, 1068 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 1: like I know. He wanted me to show your pittures. 1069 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: Look at it right there. Look at that. That's the 1070 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 1: that's the gummies right there, thirty gummies right there. That's 1071 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 1: the body butter right there. You know what I'm saying. 1072 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 1: And then if you got brill of bone, he got 1073 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: you covered death too, right there, healthy bones and heart support. 1074 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: All this is about making your life better because you 1075 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: have lost weight as well. That made your life made 1076 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: a conscious effort to improve the quality your life as well, 1077 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 1: correct chef in our walse that is correct. You know. 1078 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: Um as we were going through the pandemic, you know, 1079 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: I decided, Hey, now that I'm home moorn, not traveling 1080 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 1: and femine as much as I originally was, now it's 1081 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: time to really just focus on me and use that 1082 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 1: time wisely. And I took that time really to start 1083 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: riding bikes with with the children, walking on trails with 1084 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 1: the wife, and and just focusing on me and and 1085 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 1: riching and my riching and my my better being in life, 1086 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: because what what's the purpose to become successful and then 1087 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 1: spend all your time and all your money up and 1088 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: trying to stay alive when I can change the narrative, 1089 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, not just for myself, but just be a 1090 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 1: positive mindset from my family, because I got a lot 1091 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 1: of people depending on me, even the employees depending on me. 1092 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: And so that's one of the key things that I 1093 01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 1: saw that's really important that we tend to start chasing 1094 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 1: the American dream and we forget about the way of 1095 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 1: being and who who we are and over the course 1096 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: of that journey. You know, I've lost over sixty some 1097 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: pounds and still going. You know, it's it's not a 1098 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 1: an instant result, but it's a lifestyle. And that's how 1099 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 1: I look at it, just as a lifestyle and the 1100 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 1: way of being and just making it a habit to 1101 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 1: consciously control what I do. And you know, even with 1102 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 1: New Soul Kitchen um My showing Cleo TV, that's what 1103 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: it's about. It's about showing people how to take the 1104 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: food that we love and that we eat and modify 1105 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 1: for for today's healthier lifestyle. Except at the same time 1106 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: having some great stuff. Speaking of that, I know Rashawn's 1107 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 1: kids and man, you'd be throwing it down and keeping 1108 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 1: me hungry. Man. So so you you you're making it 1109 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,920 Speaker 1: hard for a brother. No, no, no, no, no, man, 1110 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,919 Speaker 1: you don't want I'm just an amateur. You're a professional. Now. 1111 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: I've been seeing you on a Food Network win in 1112 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,000 Speaker 1: championships to see that's what I can't do that you 1113 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: can do. I can't just go in the kitchen somebody 1114 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: saying make it. I would like faith. What happened to 1115 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: that black dude or you felt like cause you asked 1116 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 1: him to do something on the spot. I gotta prep 1117 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 1: you gotta give me a recipe and hand of time. 1118 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 1: They don't do that on those contests. They tell you 1119 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: right then and there what you're supposed to make. Correct 1120 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: That that is correct, you know when they when they 1121 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 1: show you. And that's part of the adrenaline and whole excitement. 1122 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 1: When when we're competing on those shows like Cutthroat Kitchen 1123 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 1: and all those different shows that I was competing on, 1124 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're getting ready to make until 1125 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: they announced it right on Cameron. When they tell you 1126 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: have thirty minutes to create this dish, that's thirty minutes 1127 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 1: in real time, right, so you're really working on the 1128 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 1: flying I learned. I learned to master that are And 1129 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 1: one of the things was being a Mississippi boy when 1130 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 1: they would when they would challenge me and take different 1131 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: things from it. I didn't have a lot of cooking 1132 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: equipment going up anyway, so it was normal. You tell 1133 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 1: me I gotta make some I gotta make some pasta, 1134 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 1: but I can't use regular spaghetti. You know. I do 1135 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: how to get my a flower and make my own 1136 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 1: pasta dough and things like that. They're like, hey, you 1137 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta make some meat balls, but you can't 1138 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: use ground beat the well. I look, guess what I'm 1139 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 1: gonna grab. I'm gonna grab some mushrooms and things like 1140 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 1: that inform them into two little balls. And didn't come 1141 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 1: up with a cool story to tell the jigs while 1142 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 1: bro and this is all I had, I would tell 1143 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: you something on the reel. I remember because I come 1144 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 1: from a big family Houston, Texas, six sisters, two brothers, 1145 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: and we didn't have this is a true story about 1146 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: me in my life. We didn't have all the dish, 1147 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 1: all the spoons and fogs and knives, and so I 1148 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: swear to you man, I able to spoon everything. You know, 1149 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: if it was a piece of meat, I cut it 1150 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,919 Speaker 1: with a spoon. And then when I was in college, man, 1151 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 1: my friends would look at me and I'll just cutting 1152 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: at meat with that spoon. When they go for sure 1153 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,439 Speaker 1: what you're doing, I go, I'm even. They go, hey, man, 1154 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: there's a fark and a knife. I go, okay, and 1155 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: you can use that to cut your meat. I go, dude, 1156 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 1: I've been doing this all my life with the spoon. 1157 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 1: Because when you when you don't have it, then you 1158 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 1: may do what you have and so and that's what 1159 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 1: that's the mentality of a lot of people don't do 1160 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 1: in the business world. They feel they got to have everything, 1161 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 1: They got to have the right that the temperature gotta 1162 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 1: be right, the right amount of food has to be delivered. 1163 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Sometime it isn't. You have to make make do with 1164 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,480 Speaker 1: what you have. And that's what I did in my 1165 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: life until later on. Now, of course I use a 1166 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 1: knife and the fall because I've grown up and realized 1167 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: that's what the two. But when I was growing up, brother, 1168 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 1: I grabbed the first spoon I got because if I 1169 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 1: didn't get the spoon, somebody else got it. So I 1170 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 1: held that because I've watched my spoon with the spoon, 1171 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: with this spoon, with the bed with me. I kept 1172 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,320 Speaker 1: possible because when cyril's being served, if you want to know, 1173 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: trying to eat some cereal with the fuck you know 1174 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 1: that's my already, or trying to drink cyria, I'm just 1175 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 1: a little sad, like the spoon became an extension of you, 1176 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 1: your very old But that is so true. What what 1177 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 1: when you when you learn to master the art of 1178 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 1: whatever it is you're doing without when you do have 1179 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 1: you can create so much more, and a lot of 1180 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: people don't even realize all of these things are just 1181 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 1: grooming us to or what we're stepping into. Like you 1182 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 1: was you speaking about? You know, you have to have 1183 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,679 Speaker 1: everything set up. And that was one of the things 1184 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,720 Speaker 1: after I after I finished college that actually I went 1185 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 1: to an HBC Rush College, but after I finished there 1186 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 1: and went to culinary Art school, one of the things 1187 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,719 Speaker 1: that I paid all that money to go to culinary 1188 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: art school was then to teach me one terminology and 1189 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: that's me some plots. It's French for get everything in order. 1190 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,760 Speaker 1: And a lot of people when they watch watch me 1191 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 1: on my cooking show New Soul Kitchen or even watching 1192 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 1: you cook, what they're learning is when we're starting off, 1193 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 1: we already have our ingredients already laid out, and that's 1194 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 1: what allows us to cook within a fraction of the 1195 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 1: time that we're cooking in because just by preprepping, slicing 1196 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 1: and dicing, having everything laid out and ready to go, 1197 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,640 Speaker 1: that saves a fraction of the time. And that's one 1198 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 1: of the things that I even teach people when they're 1199 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 1: watching my show, I teach them and share with them 1200 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 1: how if you stop being a refrigerator and the pantry cook. 1201 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 1: Then you can create food a whole lot faster and 1202 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: you don't have to spend a lot of time in 1203 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,800 Speaker 1: the kitchen. And what I mean when I say refrigerating 1204 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,519 Speaker 1: pantry cook, you know we all been there. We we're hungry, 1205 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 1: want something, even walk into we walk into kitchen and 1206 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 1: we just opened up the refrigerator and whatever we pull out, 1207 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 1: we're pulling out this, we're pulling out that, and we 1208 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,600 Speaker 1: started cooking and working from that way, you burn a 1209 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: lot of time determine what it is, what you won't 1210 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 1: get all your ingredients out, lay them in front of you, 1211 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,680 Speaker 1: and then start cooking. When you five, you stole or 1212 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 1: your oven and it cuts down on the time. And 1213 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 1: it also helps you be a lot more precise when 1214 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 1: you're preparing the dishes. I'll tell you, you know, when 1215 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: I look at what you do, and you know if 1216 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 1: preparation is the key, because if you look at any recipe, 1217 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 1: they'll tell you like our the half now and our 1218 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,320 Speaker 1: it's the preparation time. The half is just the cook time. 1219 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,719 Speaker 1: And so so you know, because all people they really 1220 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, put if it says a quarter, the quarter 1221 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 1: teaspoon of salt. Put the salt out there, okay, or 1222 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 1: half a couple of meal put the milk out there. 1223 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 1: And it was so easy. Once you accept the responsibility 1224 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: of prep, preple to keep to successful baking and cooking. 1225 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: If you don't want to prep, then you're wasting your times. 1226 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 1: Get out the kitchen and keep going to uh Jack 1227 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 1: in the box. Something's like that fast food you fast 1228 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,759 Speaker 1: food friendly. That's what I call you, fast food friendly 1229 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 1: when you don't want to prep. That that is so true. 1230 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 1: And you know a lot of people that believe, especially 1231 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 1: because we believe in the old school method. Well look, 1232 01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't believe in measuring anything. I cook the old 1233 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 1: school away. I just toss it in and tell it 1234 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 1: like like our great grandparents and things did. The thing 1235 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 1: is they were the originators of the recipes that we followed. 1236 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 1: But when you actually follow a recipe that controls the consistency. 1237 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,719 Speaker 1: You ever wonder when you go to that favorite restaurant 1238 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 1: why the food is spot on every time and it's 1239 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 1: so good. It's because they're following that recipe. And if 1240 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 1: you want to create food in the comfort of your 1241 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 1: home home the same time, you're a measure of those 1242 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 1: ingredients right now, you know you can. Now you're the 1243 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,440 Speaker 1: king of baking reshown. Now when it comes to saltan 1244 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,640 Speaker 1: and cooking on top of the stove, you know you 1245 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,640 Speaker 1: you can kind of fudge and play with it. But 1246 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to baking, that's the killerstry. Those those 1247 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,160 Speaker 1: ingredients gotta be spot on. Because if those ingredients not 1248 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 1: spot on, you wonder why I made the cake and 1249 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 1: the cake looks like a pancake instead of an actual 1250 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 1: actual pound cake. Put the freestyle baking powder. They're just 1251 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,759 Speaker 1: flowing out the pan, just just little ugly little monster 1252 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,759 Speaker 1: there and the oven going on, frightening your kids another smell. 1253 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: You're also on fire. But that's all part of being 1254 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: a chef and being recognized as a superior talent, because 1255 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 1: that's what you are chef to. No, Well, you're on 1256 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,640 Speaker 1: national TV shows and you have to be there with celebrities, 1257 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 1: with anchors who've been there, done that, who've seen it. 1258 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,679 Speaker 1: How do you deal with that? Being able to under 1259 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 1: pressed like that? Because I got that, I got the game. 1260 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,600 Speaker 1: The contest shows on Food Network and cooking channels and 1261 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 1: things like that. But when you want today's show, Good 1262 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 1: Morning America a Tamarn Hall Show or any other talk 1263 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,760 Speaker 1: show that you've done in the past. How you deal 1264 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 1: with that on the spot pressure of delivering the goods? 1265 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the ways how deliver deal 1266 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,240 Speaker 1: with that is it took two years and times of training. 1267 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,560 Speaker 1: People are watching me on those shows and any of 1268 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,600 Speaker 1: the other noble shops. They are watching those shows and 1269 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 1: they said, oh man, it looks so easy. Yeah, I 1270 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,680 Speaker 1: can go and do it. And then they do it 1271 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,720 Speaker 1: and they fumble because with those shows, we have to 1272 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,880 Speaker 1: create a dish in three minutes, because typically that's amount 1273 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 1: of time to give us on those on those shows. 1274 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,720 Speaker 1: Today's show, Good Morning American knows you have anywhere from 1275 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,720 Speaker 1: three to five minutes to create a whole dish to 1276 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 1: typical would take thirty to forty five minutes to make 1277 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,759 Speaker 1: several things. First of all, because you have home court advantage, 1278 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 1: you always determine a recipe that you can control and 1279 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 1: that you mastering that you know, so you don't have 1280 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of talking fumbles. Say thing is as we 1281 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 1: call it, the TV magic, meaning that you already have 1282 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,360 Speaker 1: a finished product on hand, and you take that you 1283 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 1: take the view through the process of seeing you creating 1284 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,680 Speaker 1: this dish, but you always know you're gonna have that 1285 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 1: product to reveal at the end, and then you're gonna 1286 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 1: taste it and describe it. The second thing is is 1287 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 1: having your cooking chops lined up with your talking chops. 1288 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,720 Speaker 1: And see a lot of people like cooking cholks talking choked. Yeah, 1289 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,679 Speaker 1: it's two parts to any cooking segment that you watch 1290 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 1: the TV. Presenting the food and talking about the food 1291 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,800 Speaker 1: and actually entertaining. See people see cooking shows and they 1292 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,719 Speaker 1: just think, oh, it's all about cooking, But you gotta 1293 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,800 Speaker 1: remember it's a hard sell to sell somebody to want something. 1294 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 1: I want to follow you through a camera lens because 1295 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,680 Speaker 1: they can't smell it, they can't taste it, but you 1296 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,599 Speaker 1: gotta be descriptive with it. And it just took years 1297 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 1: of work in that way. That really taught me that. 1298 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Now the people who really honed in on teaching me 1299 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 1: that was when Idea Food Network start with Bobby Flay 1300 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,760 Speaker 1: and Ga And you know, I walked away as the 1301 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 1: runner up on this show, but they've really told me 1302 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 1: how to hone in on that skill and really just 1303 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 1: work harder. And then what I did when I got home, 1304 01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 1: I just kept doing it over and over because we 1305 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 1: have the practice to show ourselves show as we say, 1306 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 1: show thyself approved. And when I learned and got it 1307 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 1: down to a signs and led me to having my 1308 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 1: own show, which is new so kissing it might, I add, 1309 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, Rachan, but I'm gonna 1310 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 1: produce on that show. So I'm also playing a part 1311 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 1: in producing my own content. To listening you prother finally 1312 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:36,680 Speaker 1: listen that what you should have said, Rachel, and I 1313 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 1: finally listened to you. I'm kitchen, and after that gonna 1314 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: be executive producing. Okay, because that's how it really works, 1315 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 1: because your talent. That it only works because of your talent. 1316 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,600 Speaker 1: And so once talent get out of that fear, you know, 1317 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: fear of asking, the fear of saying or demanding in 1318 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 1: certain cases, you gotta say, hey, I deserve this because 1319 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 1: of the fact that I'm riety producing, I'm acting. I'm adding, 1320 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm telling you all the right process. You know, if 1321 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 1: it does if I don't see it right, I'm selling 1322 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 1: the brain and all those things. And so new Sol Kitchen, 1323 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 1: let's bring up everybody up to speak because we got 1324 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,519 Speaker 1: a lot of talk, like to talk about is early 1325 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 1: in the interview, but I want to make sure that 1326 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 1: everybody knows that's one of my favorite show New So 1327 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,560 Speaker 1: Kitchen outside of the second favorite show that you do 1328 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 1: is the best thing you ever that broll so you 1329 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 1: got that You've got that finger looking good conversation when 1330 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 1: you were talking sometimes chefs, you know our whales on 1331 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,840 Speaker 1: that show, I'll be like getting hunger. But let's talk 1332 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 1: about New Soul Kitchen before we go. The best thing 1333 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,320 Speaker 1: you ever head now, New New Sol Kitchen. It's it's 1334 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 1: on Cleo TV. And Cleo TV is a is an 1335 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,840 Speaker 1: African American network for millennial women of color. Um but 1336 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 1: one of the things that we've pride ourself in is 1337 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,200 Speaker 1: become a thriving network with millions and meters of viewers 1338 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,640 Speaker 1: and they can you can watch the show nationwide and 1339 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 1: then we'll we've we've really crossed over culture. So we 1340 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 1: have a very diverse culture that's watching. As a matter 1341 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 1: of fact, New Soul Kitchen is the number one showing 1342 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,800 Speaker 1: the network and it all to me lad to me 1343 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 1: create spending off a new another show which is New 1344 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,800 Speaker 1: Soul Kids and Remix. So I knew So Kitchen, New 1345 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 1: So Kids and remix and I show people how to 1346 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 1: create amazing meals and fifteen minutes or less and doing 1347 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,839 Speaker 1: that time frame, it's about vetting out the different products 1348 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 1: that they that they that they are shot for. And 1349 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,800 Speaker 1: and I don't believe and as we say, cooking over 1350 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,640 Speaker 1: its cooking over people's head, you know, just to show them, 1351 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,040 Speaker 1: I know, all the fancy ingredients and all the fancy words. 1352 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,680 Speaker 1: I believe in reaching the people where they are. You know, 1353 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,719 Speaker 1: if you're going to the grocery store and you're shopping, 1354 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 1: you you're getting your standard stuff. You know, your cabbage, 1355 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 1: your collar greens and sweet potatoes, your steak or your seafood, 1356 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 1: things like that. I'm not sending you to go get 1357 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 1: the far grow and the stinkweed and all these other 1358 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 1: stuff where you gotta go to the special shows. I'm 1359 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 1: talking to the people and showing them how to cook 1360 01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:57,200 Speaker 1: with the vast majority of Americans create right and in 1361 01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,679 Speaker 1: my ultimate mission wouldn't do so kitchen is show the world, 1362 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 1: even though we have the words soul in there, and 1363 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,800 Speaker 1: to show the world that the soul food die ask 1364 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 1: for the food we create, it's not just so food, 1365 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 1: it's American cuisine because it's the food that America's backbone 1366 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,840 Speaker 1: was built off of them. It was us even doing 1367 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 1: the doing the slavery times. It was us in the 1368 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,680 Speaker 1: in the big house and in the field house is 1369 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,519 Speaker 1: cooking the food. So it was what America grew up 1370 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 1: off of and eat and love. That's why it's so 1371 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:31,439 Speaker 1: used today. Wow, now you know, I remember a couple 1372 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 1: of years ago, each Rashan man and he flying in 1373 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,120 Speaker 1: l a man and I'm gonna do some episodes of 1374 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 1: best Thing you have eight he said, Man, you started 1375 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 1: naming different places to koeat, like one place down in Athens, Georgia. 1376 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,960 Speaker 1: There was a place right there in Atlanta, and there 1377 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 1: was another place up in Tennessee. Tell us to your 1378 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 1: favorite all time the best thing you ever hed locations 1379 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,280 Speaker 1: in Now now I'm gonna tell them about it. But first, 1380 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,439 Speaker 1: it's funny. It's funny you mentioned what you said. That 1381 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,600 Speaker 1: was one of the things that I have to I 1382 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 1: have to really say about your Rashaan. And in mind, 1383 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,920 Speaker 1: if if the viewers don't know Rashawn knows food, Rashauns 1384 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 1: know how to find some great locations, some good food, 1385 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 1: and and and those that have been following and and 1386 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 1: and it has seen me multiple times on money making conversations. 1387 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 1: They know, they know that we've been rocking with each 1388 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 1: other for many years now. Seen. Yes, yes, indeedy I 1389 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 1: maybe one of the longest running running. Yes. But some 1390 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,680 Speaker 1: of the some of the most amazing places that that 1391 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,439 Speaker 1: that I really love love eating that is. It's one 1392 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 1: that's in uh in l A. That's called Harold and Bells. 1393 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 1: It's uh Harold. Yeah, amazing food, amazing family owned restaurant 1394 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 1: that really shalizes in the occasion in creoles cuisine of Louisiana. 1395 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,680 Speaker 1: So definitely, if you're in Louisiana, you go Louisiana. You 1396 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,920 Speaker 1: not Louisiana l A. That's what in l A. If 1397 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,560 Speaker 1: you're in l A and you won't experience some amazing 1398 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,799 Speaker 1: Louisiana cuisine, you have to make your way to Harolyn Bells. 1399 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 1: Harolen Bell's by far Is is probably one of the 1400 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 1: best ones. But now showing some love here and in Atlanta, Georgia, 1401 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,400 Speaker 1: I think one of my all time favorite restaurants is 1402 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,519 Speaker 1: c Ellis. You know, I really love c La c 1403 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,360 Speaker 1: ellis Is over at the Battery. Now there's one particular 1404 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,760 Speaker 1: dish that I think c Ellis because I always hone 1405 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 1: in and pick several dishes that I think it's done. 1406 01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,880 Speaker 1: Where c Ellis does. It creates a dish that's a 1407 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,720 Speaker 1: barbecue shrimp dish, and it's not barbecue shrimp in the 1408 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 1: anstence of what you think when you think about barbecue 1409 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:52,559 Speaker 1: shrimp on the grill. They create a unique sauce that's 1410 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:56,600 Speaker 1: made with wooster share butter, and then they tossed the 1411 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,320 Speaker 1: shrimping that with lemon juice, with the head on so 1412 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 1: and and they don't cook it in the skillet. They 1413 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,640 Speaker 1: bake it in the oven. So when you're baking it 1414 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 1: and you're blending all those spices together, the onions, the garlic, 1415 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,880 Speaker 1: it allows that that stock from the shrimp and the 1416 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,600 Speaker 1: shrimp shell to really saturate into the flavor and the 1417 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,160 Speaker 1: sauce of of the whole dish. And when they bring 1418 01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 1: it out, you have all these beautiful, beautiful, bright prenk 1419 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,960 Speaker 1: shrimp that's covered smothered in this creamy sauce and it's 1420 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 1: served with garlic toast. Man that that's one of the 1421 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: dishes I can keep going back and keep going back forth. 1422 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 1: Um so, and you know I've been doing the best 1423 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 1: things I ever ate for for actually quite a few 1424 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 1: few years now going into the fifth season doing that 1425 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 1: one and best things I ever ate led me to 1426 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,560 Speaker 1: another opportunity where I have a show that I contribute 1427 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 1: on that's on Oprah Winfreys network, because you know, they 1428 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 1: have a nice they have a nice food platform now 1429 01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,800 Speaker 1: and uh it's called On in the Kitchen. And the 1430 01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 1: show that I do on Oprah Winfrey's network is called 1431 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 1: Food Fantasies. So if you hadn't seen Food Fantasies, you 1432 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,639 Speaker 1: definitely have to check that out. I do a mean 1433 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 1: deep fried crab leg on that take them king craft 1434 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,439 Speaker 1: batter him up. So first with the king crabs and 1435 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,200 Speaker 1: shown you gotta you gotta go head on and steam 1436 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,200 Speaker 1: him so you can crack him at this shell. Then 1437 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,320 Speaker 1: create a nice good timp cure batter, toss him in 1438 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: there with some creole spices, fried and bad boys up 1439 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,800 Speaker 1: and you're talking about some good eating. You won't go 1440 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 1: to sleep at the eating. See he got me. I 1441 01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:31,360 Speaker 1: thought he's gonna let me off the hoop. Then he 1442 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:35,840 Speaker 1: went into that figure looking good talk you got Now 1443 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,760 Speaker 1: you got the business thing we gotta talk about. Now 1444 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 1: you got a business with me with your friends and 1445 01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,240 Speaker 1: the doctor Scott and Contessa Metcalf over Bravo was Married 1446 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 1: to Medicine, And you gotta line, and I think I'm 1447 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,800 Speaker 1: holding up that line in front of me right now. 1448 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,040 Speaker 1: Tell me about how did that come about? I know 1449 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people. Why would they important 1450 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,120 Speaker 1: to get into business with over a Bravo's television very 1451 01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,800 Speaker 1: successful show Marriage to Medicine. Dr Scott and Contessa met 1452 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 1: half Yes, and and that's one of the things that 1453 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 1: says that all Dr Scott and contested Madcalf husband and 1454 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:11,479 Speaker 1: wife couple to amazing doctors that continue to keep striving 1455 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 1: in their knowledge. They actually have a doctor's office that's 1456 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:19,000 Speaker 1: over in Buckhead um Integrade of Integrade of Medicine. And 1457 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,120 Speaker 1: one of the things as I'm on on my health 1458 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 1: journey of eating well, Um Scott and I we we 1459 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 1: we created a YouTube show called One Chef and a Doc. 1460 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 1: And of course, me being the chef, I always want 1461 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,840 Speaker 1: to go renegade off the plane and I got the 1462 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 1: doc of here advised me, hey, are you gonna cook this? 1463 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:40,880 Speaker 1: Want you to put this in here, wants you to 1464 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,439 Speaker 1: use this to make it a little more healthy and exciting. 1465 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 1: And then I got contesting. It's saying, chef, well, you 1466 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,280 Speaker 1: know it's okay to eat this, you can do this 1467 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,360 Speaker 1: right here, and they give me that amazing advice. But 1468 01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,120 Speaker 1: as being great friends, they've been amazing friends. We came 1469 01:22:55,160 --> 01:23:00,240 Speaker 1: together to create Hope Doc Neutraceuticals. Hope Doc Neutraceuticals is 1470 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,960 Speaker 1: a vitamin and supplement line and company because we knew 1471 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 1: that it was not just important for us to have 1472 01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 1: the right supplements and vitamins to put in our own body, 1473 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,439 Speaker 1: but we want to share that with the world. So 1474 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 1: we partner with a FDA approved company that creates some 1475 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,120 Speaker 1: of the most amazing vitamins for us. And we have 1476 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 1: everything from from Tumerican ginger gummies all the way down 1477 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,479 Speaker 1: to an amazing CBD line. Like the body but if 1478 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,120 Speaker 1: you're actually exercise and then you want to make sure 1479 01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,080 Speaker 1: those joints are feeling good, we have that. We have 1480 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,800 Speaker 1: the the vitamin K, Vitamin D for you joint and 1481 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,599 Speaker 1: your bones. We have Elderberry. We also, as a matter 1482 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 1: of fact, it's funny you missed it, we do have 1483 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,879 Speaker 1: a test toss the own line coming out of Collegen 1484 01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,120 Speaker 1: line coming out, and we have Sleep Well Gummies because hey, 1485 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,960 Speaker 1: not only is it important to have an active lifestyle, 1486 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,719 Speaker 1: but it's also important to have a healthy sleep sleep 1487 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,560 Speaker 1: style as well. And that's one of the things that 1488 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 1: you were do you still get up at four thirty 1489 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,519 Speaker 1: in the morning every more o'clock the beach. You're cheating? Man, 1490 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,360 Speaker 1: four a m. Don't you cheat me. I'll reach across 1491 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 1: this camera, get you, slap you upside there four o'clock. Man, 1492 01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,840 Speaker 1: talk to me. Man, just stops the wrong. I want, 1493 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 1: I want to do one of Frank Thomas comes. Y'all 1494 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 1: gotta hire me and you'll be happy to right. You 1495 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: get to win because one of the things we learned 1496 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,800 Speaker 1: the older that we get the lord to stoss the 1497 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,360 Speaker 1: own level drop. So it's key to having the right 1498 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,840 Speaker 1: right balance of t stosterone. Now to stason has its 1499 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,080 Speaker 1: benefits outside of just having that that healthy boost the 1500 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,639 Speaker 1: energy and if you want to keep if you want 1501 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,560 Speaker 1: to keep that love like to the next level. It 1502 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,679 Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with having a little extra to stops 1503 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,559 Speaker 1: the wrong. Hey, look, you know, I'm a father none, 1504 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 1: so I ain't complain, and I hope miss ain't complaining. 1505 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 1: Need I gotta father one. I gotta catch hell. I 1506 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:56,519 Speaker 1: need some to stops the roll. I need to trust me. 1507 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,040 Speaker 1: If you're getting up at four o'clock in the morning, 1508 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm you've got a lot of two studs wrong because 1509 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,639 Speaker 1: do get the work. You know. It's really great talk 1510 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,800 Speaker 1: to me, but we gotta make sure. We talked about 1511 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 1: one of the primary reasons why you're coming on the 1512 01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,240 Speaker 1: show Father's Day Weekend just coming up. You're going to 1513 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,080 Speaker 1: be the host a Real Men Cook, the Nashville virtual show. 1514 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:24,679 Speaker 1: Celebrity Chefs, Celebrity Cooks, Celebrity Fathers will be sharing meals. 1515 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,240 Speaker 1: You'll be a centennial olymptic park in the Lanta, Georgia. 1516 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Talk about how that came about. Talk about the experience. 1517 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,519 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be three pm to six pm 1518 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,080 Speaker 1: Eastern Standard time, I mean Central Standard time. Would you 1519 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,920 Speaker 1: be four to seven Eastern? I believe. So talk about 1520 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,040 Speaker 1: that because I'm so excited for you, because I really 1521 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,600 Speaker 1: do love that that event and her son and I 1522 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,360 Speaker 1: think it's just fantastic and be doing it for over 1523 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,880 Speaker 1: thirty two years. Yes, Real Men Cook has been going 1524 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,160 Speaker 1: on for thirty two years. It's an amazing event. I 1525 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 1: started out with Real Men Cook roughly around two thousand 1526 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,160 Speaker 1: and in three or so. Because I'm even though I 1527 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,559 Speaker 1: have this heavy Southern accent, I'm originally a Chicago native. 1528 01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,040 Speaker 1: That's why I was born and raised before moving to 1529 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,479 Speaker 1: the South. So even when I was living in the South, 1530 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:13,680 Speaker 1: I would always travel back home to Chicago to participate 1531 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,960 Speaker 1: in and and your Vet and Royale, you know, amazing 1532 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 1: as well as Kofi uh Themorial family. Amazing family. And 1533 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:26,280 Speaker 1: they've really just embraced me and saw saw the gift 1534 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 1: in me even at a young and early Asian. And 1535 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,599 Speaker 1: I'm even I'm still a stunt. It's at the fact 1536 01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,599 Speaker 1: that at one point I'm playing a part with Real 1537 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Man Cooking, cooking alonside President of Barack Obama. But of 1538 01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 1: course at the time he was sent to Obama and 1539 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 1: and who would have knew one day I could say, hey, 1540 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:46,240 Speaker 1: I cooked alonside the president to even see that his 1541 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,960 Speaker 1: favorite his favorite dish at the time with shrimp, one 1542 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,200 Speaker 1: of the things that he truly loved. Uh. But Real 1543 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,640 Speaker 1: Men Cooking celebrates fathers, and its celebrates those that are 1544 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:59,800 Speaker 1: father figures. And it's every it's every year on Father's Day. 1545 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,840 Speaker 1: And they hosted around they hosted around the world, from 1546 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:07,679 Speaker 1: Chicago to Atlanta and North Carolina, so many amazing cities 1547 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:12,519 Speaker 1: as well. This year, we will be broadcasting live um 1548 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,800 Speaker 1: Real Men Cook from Centennial Park, so those that can't 1549 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,439 Speaker 1: come out and stream with us that can't come out 1550 01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,360 Speaker 1: and actually hanging person. I have some amazing chefs that's 1551 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 1: gonna be doing some live cooking demos giving us some 1552 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 1: amazing food samples. We're gonna have a host of food 1553 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,720 Speaker 1: trucks out sharing their cuisine as well. I'm gonna be 1554 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,800 Speaker 1: streaming live on all of the Real Men Cook platforms 1555 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 1: as well. I'll also be doing a live stream on 1556 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,960 Speaker 1: Cleo Cleo TVs Instagram page. So we're gonna make sure 1557 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,840 Speaker 1: that we get the word out. Because one of the 1558 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 1: things is being a father and an African American father, 1559 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 1: I understand how it's key that we continue to lead 1560 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:56,080 Speaker 1: by example and show our young men and our young 1561 01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,840 Speaker 1: women that are coming up behind us how portant it 1562 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,680 Speaker 1: is to have those dad's in your life. And if 1563 01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 1: you don't have that biological dad, that the person that's 1564 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 1: filling in the gap in the neighborhood, in the community, 1565 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,320 Speaker 1: in your home as your dad, to show that appreciation 1566 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,880 Speaker 1: and show how we give love. Because i want to 1567 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:18,519 Speaker 1: break that that stigmatism of people thinking that the African 1568 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,920 Speaker 1: American family is that the father is the absentee father 1569 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 1: in the house. It's not, and it's not always the case. 1570 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,760 Speaker 1: We're there and we want to be heard and we 1571 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 1: want the world to see us. And that's why it's 1572 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,840 Speaker 1: so important that real men cook and real man charities 1573 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 1: has came along and they've been paving the forefront for 1574 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,439 Speaker 1: the past thirty two years of being that beacon of 1575 01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 1: light to continue to have show that because if they didn't, 1576 01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,599 Speaker 1: who would. And and you know, and I was truly 1577 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 1: honored when you're that a very good friend of mine 1578 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 1: reached out to me and wanted me to help lead 1579 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,160 Speaker 1: the charge with it, you know, because I've been supporting 1580 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 1: it for years. So to even give to show me 1581 01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,400 Speaker 1: the respect and honor that we would like you to 1582 01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,560 Speaker 1: play a big a role with us this year and 1583 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,600 Speaker 1: be the official host that really said a lot in 1584 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 1: this and it's truly an important important place to be 1585 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:11,480 Speaker 1: right now in my career life. Well, first of all, congratulations, 1586 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:16,400 Speaker 1: uh truly uh hearing this opportunity. I know as a father, 1587 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:20,680 Speaker 1: father of nine, a beautiful wife, a home that stabilized 1588 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,880 Speaker 1: from two as two parents who are still at the home, existing, coexisting, 1589 01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,599 Speaker 1: communicating and fathers. They does have a negative statement when 1590 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,760 Speaker 1: it comes to black fathers. You know the statements, whether 1591 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,080 Speaker 1: they're true or not. It seems to believe that the 1592 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,679 Speaker 1: black woman is the is the reason, it's the structure. 1593 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,560 Speaker 1: You don't hear that in white households. That you know, 1594 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,559 Speaker 1: the white woman is the leader of the pack. Without 1595 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,719 Speaker 1: the white woman leading the family, there's no family dynamic 1596 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,599 Speaker 1: where you hear that in the black family. As to shows, 1597 01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,000 Speaker 1: as it may seem that men are just kicked to 1598 01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 1: the curve, and that's not true. We have a place, 1599 01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 1: we deliver were consistently. They're doing our part. And what 1600 01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,040 Speaker 1: you've being the host of Real Men, he is the 1601 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,439 Speaker 1: official hole. Let me get out of there, y'all. Chief. 1602 01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 1: You know, well, make sure you give me that batter 1603 01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,960 Speaker 1: because you know I post for you, will post for you. 1604 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,600 Speaker 1: So give me one to post up on Sunday. That 1605 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,600 Speaker 1: Sunday morning, I want to post a banner about you 1606 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:16,600 Speaker 1: hosting Real Men Cook National Virtual event broadcasting live on 1607 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,880 Speaker 1: Father's Day from Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta, Georgia. The 1608 01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:25,360 Speaker 1: one and only straight out of Mississippi, HPCU, Grand Cheff 1609 01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,120 Speaker 1: you know Wales. And by the way, the test starts 1610 01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 1: roles are coming, The test star roles are coming. Thank you, 1611 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,800 Speaker 1: Thank you chef for coming on the show man. Thank you. 1612 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,080 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure. You know that, my brother. Alright, 1613 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,600 Speaker 1: we talked soon. Okay, we will be right back with 1614 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:46,360 Speaker 1: more money making conversations with your host Rashan McDonald. You 1615 01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,840 Speaker 1: are now tuned into the money Making Conversations Minute of 1616 01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:54,240 Speaker 1: Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. I talked with Don Lemon, the 1617 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,200 Speaker 1: host of Seeing in tonight, about our nation's deep racial 1618 01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,080 Speaker 1: divide and his new book This is the Fire. I 1619 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,840 Speaker 1: say to my friends about racism. 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Look to your 1651 01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,400 Speaker 1: children's eyes to see the true magic of a forest. 1652 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,920 Speaker 1: It's a storybook world for them. You look and see 1653 01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,880 Speaker 1: a tree. They see the wrinkle face of a wizard 1654 01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,960 Speaker 1: with arms outstretched to the sky. They see treasure and pebbles. 1655 01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,080 Speaker 1: They see a windy path that could lead to adventure, 1656 01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:12,880 Speaker 1: and they see you. They're fearless. Guide. Is this fascinating world? 1657 01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,120 Speaker 1: Find a forest near you and start exploring and discover 1658 01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 1: the forest dot org brought to you by the United 1659 01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:21,559 Speaker 1: States Forest Service and the Council. My next two guests, 1660 01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,720 Speaker 1: or what I like to call industry decision makers, their 1661 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,920 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs Rob and Jin Mars. In twenty eleven, they opened 1662 01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,679 Speaker 1: a retail bakery store Fronts, selling over one hundred flavors 1663 01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:33,080 Speaker 1: of homemade cupcakes. I know they will do. They started 1664 01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,280 Speaker 1: their bakery from their love of food and sweets and 1665 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,400 Speaker 1: wanted to create a different kind of life for their family. 1666 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,559 Speaker 1: The company now has involved into coaching and mentoring through 1667 01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,599 Speaker 1: their own line and small business course to start Small 1668 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:47,840 Speaker 1: Wind Big Academy. Hear me the Start Small Wind Big 1669 01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,879 Speaker 1: Academy where they teach bakers of all ages the blueprint 1670 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,639 Speaker 1: to start their own bakery business. There are many courses 1671 01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,320 Speaker 1: and classes teaching bakers how to perfect their skills, but 1672 01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,880 Speaker 1: very but very few courses have to tell you how 1673 01:33:59,920 --> 01:34:02,320 Speaker 1: to make money doing what you do, whether it's at 1674 01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:05,280 Speaker 1: home or whether it's a passion, or they're gonna take 1675 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:06,879 Speaker 1: you to the next level, how to make it profitable 1676 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,559 Speaker 1: and the lasting full time business. Please work with money 1677 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,960 Speaker 1: making conversations bout entrepreneurship about making money? Please walcome Rob 1678 01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:18,479 Speaker 1: and Jen Morris, Hey that team? Let me let me 1679 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,280 Speaker 1: fix my ear so I get this all in man? 1680 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,280 Speaker 1: How are you doing to Rob? As my man? Right there? 1681 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:29,720 Speaker 1: You know? So where you guys based at We're right 1682 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:36,439 Speaker 1: outside of Philadelphia. So our bakery was in Delaware County, southwest, 1683 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,360 Speaker 1: right now east coast. You know, there's a lot of people. 1684 01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:42,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's probably the most populated area in the country, 1685 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:46,640 Speaker 1: is the eastern Corrida. And so why sweets? Why cupcakes? 1686 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,919 Speaker 1: Because you know, I consider myself a baker, and cupcakes, 1687 01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:53,080 Speaker 1: even though they're so cute, they're really difficult to make. 1688 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,080 Speaker 1: Am I correct? Maybe it's just my skill level, talk 1689 01:34:56,120 --> 01:35:02,479 Speaker 1: to about it. I feel skill level. The cup pages 1690 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:08,479 Speaker 1: was the easiest way to reproduce something a flavor, a 1691 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,000 Speaker 1: mentally of flavors into one little dessert. So we can 1692 01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 1: do a box of twelve different flavors, right, and it's 1693 01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:20,200 Speaker 1: just really wild everybody's minds. So so when you when 1694 01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,759 Speaker 1: you talk about ideas, because you guys are a couple, 1695 01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:24,920 Speaker 1: you know usually because that means that I was just 1696 01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,400 Speaker 1: saying it real. You know, you wake up, go to sleep. 1697 01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,439 Speaker 1: You know, you eat lunch together, breakfast together. And when 1698 01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,120 Speaker 1: you have business partners, you live a business partner checks out. 1699 01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,400 Speaker 1: See tomorrow brother or see tomorrow system. How does that 1700 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:41,320 Speaker 1: work when the ideas are constantly flowing and the conflicts 1701 01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,080 Speaker 1: can constantly be flowing when you want to make adjustments 1702 01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,160 Speaker 1: when you have an idea, when you say over one 1703 01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,240 Speaker 1: hundred flavors, that they had to be some conflict. But 1704 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,720 Speaker 1: how did that work? Because I do get a lot 1705 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,599 Speaker 1: of couple entrepreneurs on my show, every one of them 1706 01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,599 Speaker 1: has a different version of how they make it work. 1707 01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,280 Speaker 1: How do you guys make it work? From the store 1708 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,920 Speaker 1: front before we moved to the academy side, We're gonna 1709 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:04,760 Speaker 1: keep it real. First of all, you know, we're like 1710 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,760 Speaker 1: regular couples. You know, we have our issues just like 1711 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,559 Speaker 1: everybody else. But I think that our footing in our 1712 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:14,280 Speaker 1: relationship is what helps us, you know, work together as 1713 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,479 Speaker 1: a team. You know, we have a great foundation starting off, 1714 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,679 Speaker 1: so you know, as entrepreneurs together, you know, we bounce 1715 01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:22,960 Speaker 1: ideas off of each other and go back and forth, 1716 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,400 Speaker 1: and we always know that we we we both are 1717 01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,240 Speaker 1: are looking for the right decision, you know what I mean. 1718 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,000 Speaker 1: And it helps a lot if the foundation is there. 1719 01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,080 Speaker 1: But the foundation is important, man. Well you know, communication 1720 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,880 Speaker 1: is important, which creates the foundation. And so Jen, I 1721 01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,560 Speaker 1: need go Rob, you know, I'm sure he needs to 1722 01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,800 Speaker 1: know it all, sure, because I'm married to you know. 1723 01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:47,960 Speaker 1: Then my wife tells me ever to know it all okay, 1724 01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:51,080 Speaker 1: And she she in her world kind of like, is 1725 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,680 Speaker 1: the real decision maker. And her world is really the 1726 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:57,040 Speaker 1: person who does the the leg work. Because I'm a 1727 01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:58,840 Speaker 1: type of person, I throw out the manu and go 1728 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,879 Speaker 1: do the job, you know, when she reads the manual 1729 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,880 Speaker 1: and then she makes sure everything is followed through on 1730 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,240 Speaker 1: the instruction. Who is the admin person of the relationship 1731 01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:15,000 Speaker 1: than you you know, And then I handed over and 1732 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,880 Speaker 1: he'll follow it. There you and that has to be 1733 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:21,479 Speaker 1: the way. That has to be the way of any business. Correct. 1734 01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,439 Speaker 1: You know, whether you are married or whether you have 1735 01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:27,320 Speaker 1: business partners, someone has to take charge a different role nobody. 1736 01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,960 Speaker 1: You can't have somebody looking over your shoulder. Admin has 1737 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,879 Speaker 1: to be trust. You can't have anybody as far as operations, 1738 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,040 Speaker 1: because I look at Robin is the part of the operations, 1739 01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:39,320 Speaker 1: part of the relationship. So that trust in any business model. 1740 01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,160 Speaker 1: Let's discuss that right now, because I'm pretty sure that's 1741 01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:45,280 Speaker 1: part of the of your academic of your academy presentation 1742 01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,799 Speaker 1: is about trust, is about taking control of your position 1743 01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,120 Speaker 1: in the business. In this case, it's two of you, guys. 1744 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,639 Speaker 1: If you're a solo person, that's you're taking on both 1745 01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,760 Speaker 1: the ADMIN and who you bring on board. So as 1746 01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,160 Speaker 1: you're doing the store front before you went into the 1747 01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:03,640 Speaker 1: can I mean eline e online or online services do 1748 01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,639 Speaker 1: not provide what was the most daunting part of being 1749 01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:13,120 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur in a storefront property? Good? Well, I would 1750 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,120 Speaker 1: I would say the most daunting is um just like 1751 01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 1: you said, working with each other that that was definitely 1752 01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:22,120 Speaker 1: the number one. Because there's so many different ideas that 1753 01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,360 Speaker 1: we bounced off and we were trying to make the 1754 01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:29,720 Speaker 1: right decisions whatnot. But also by us working together the 1755 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,080 Speaker 1: way we did, that also helped us step out and 1756 01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:35,080 Speaker 1: deal with people on the professional level, because when you're 1757 01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,559 Speaker 1: dealing with these professional people, they want to make sure 1758 01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:39,840 Speaker 1: that you know your business is solid, that you guys 1759 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,160 Speaker 1: are bouncing off the right ideas or whatnot, so that 1760 01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,200 Speaker 1: you can get to that next point. So that was 1761 01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,719 Speaker 1: the most daunting part for me, you know, I would 1762 01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:52,160 Speaker 1: say for me, it was definitely um trying to get 1763 01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 1: the right people in the right places. Because as when 1764 01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,600 Speaker 1: you first start, you are a solopreneurs, even if you 1765 01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,880 Speaker 1: have a partner, you wear all all of the hats. 1766 01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,840 Speaker 1: So that's what gets people overwhelmed. That's what gets people 1767 01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,600 Speaker 1: burnt out. And I try to impress upon them that 1768 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,200 Speaker 1: you have to delegate and you have to put You 1769 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,000 Speaker 1: have to find the right people and put them in 1770 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,080 Speaker 1: the right places, because just because you have someone you 1771 01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,200 Speaker 1: throw them in into a position, that doesn't mean that 1772 01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:21,360 Speaker 1: that's their strength. So you know, as a CEO and 1773 01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,320 Speaker 1: an owner, you also have to realize that that you know, 1774 01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,920 Speaker 1: try to find the right person number one and then 1775 01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:29,040 Speaker 1: make sure that you're putting them in the right place 1776 01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,720 Speaker 1: so that they can succeed and they can ultimately, you know, 1777 01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,519 Speaker 1: take your business to another level too. And then then 1778 01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:37,639 Speaker 1: when you say that, because I've heard that term at 1779 01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:41,439 Speaker 1: another level, what what? Because so many people are different levels. 1780 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:43,800 Speaker 1: You know, another level might be buying a Toyota. Some 1781 01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,880 Speaker 1: people might be buying the Mercedes, you know what I'm saying. 1782 01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,679 Speaker 1: And so how do you define what that another level 1783 01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,599 Speaker 1: is when I speak like that, jin, Well, like you say, 1784 01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,760 Speaker 1: it all depends on where what level we started on. 1785 01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:00,599 Speaker 1: So for us, we took it one level at a time. 1786 01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:04,120 Speaker 1: So if we were starting in our home, the next 1787 01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:07,840 Speaker 1: level for us was into a storefront, right, But for 1788 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:12,600 Speaker 1: some people that's not one particular jump. So that's what 1789 01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:16,439 Speaker 1: we teach step by step because again, people see the 1790 01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,560 Speaker 1: end goal. They have these dreams and they see the 1791 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,519 Speaker 1: end goal, but they're starting at level A, and all 1792 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,600 Speaker 1: they're thinking about is how do I get to level Z? 1793 01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,040 Speaker 1: But you've got every step in between. You can't jump 1794 01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:28,800 Speaker 1: from the bottom step and jump all the way to 1795 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,280 Speaker 1: the top in your home, like think about your stairs steps. 1796 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,479 Speaker 1: You can't just fly from the bottom to the top 1797 01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:35,920 Speaker 1: and you can leave you can leave me. You can 1798 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,240 Speaker 1: just I love that theory because just stand at the 1799 01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,640 Speaker 1: base of the stairs and just trying to jump, you 1800 01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,280 Speaker 1: may jump my twist your ankle, you might whoa and 1801 01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,160 Speaker 1: fall backwards and breaking neck. There there's a lot of 1802 01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of mishaps can happen when you try 1803 01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,960 Speaker 1: to jump steps. And the reality of what you just 1804 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:56,760 Speaker 1: said that just dawned on me when you just said 1805 01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:59,080 Speaker 1: that by steps, because if you try to do that 1806 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,479 Speaker 1: in real life, you see the difficulty of trying to 1807 01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,639 Speaker 1: achieve I'm gonna jump to the third step. Just taking 1808 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,080 Speaker 1: to one step at the time, it's effort. At least 1809 01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,519 Speaker 1: you know you have a plan of action. You can 1810 01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:11,680 Speaker 1: do it again. You might be able to jump that 1811 01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:13,880 Speaker 1: to that third, but can you jump to the six? 1812 01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,519 Speaker 1: You know, how are you feeling that day? So that 1813 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,040 Speaker 1: really is a really is is a safe way to 1814 01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,080 Speaker 1: look at the whole process. But now, you guys, I 1815 01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,280 Speaker 1: know your whole background is baking, but it seems like 1816 01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:30,599 Speaker 1: your philosophies can be applied in any business format. Correct, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah. 1817 01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:35,439 Speaker 1: Our baking our strategy and we always say yes, it's 1818 01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:38,559 Speaker 1: for baking because we're baker's right, We've had many other 1819 01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:42,000 Speaker 1: businesses that we started trying to start before the baking business. 1820 01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,000 Speaker 1: That was just the one that stuck. And I think 1821 01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,719 Speaker 1: that was because of our extreme cashing for were foodies. 1822 01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,920 Speaker 1: So that was the only one that really sucked. And 1823 01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:56,040 Speaker 1: I guess that was our calling, that was our that 1824 01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:59,120 Speaker 1: was our assignment at that time. But our strategies, yes, 1825 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,600 Speaker 1: can work in any business. And I always say, this 1826 01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,439 Speaker 1: one baking business, this initial assignment is your mustard seed. 1827 01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,960 Speaker 1: This is the one that you're planting. You're nourishing and nurturing, 1828 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,800 Speaker 1: and once it begins to grow and sprout, you're gotta 1829 01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,640 Speaker 1: start getting many branches coming off of that tree. And 1830 01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,120 Speaker 1: you can take that same business model that we're teaching 1831 01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,200 Speaker 1: you and apply it to any other income stream, any 1832 01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:22,240 Speaker 1: other business that you're trying to start from this one 1833 01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:26,040 Speaker 1: baking distance. You know, you know, looking at twenty twenty 1834 01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:30,400 Speaker 1: was an amazing year emotionally, uh, watching people and friends 1835 01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:32,559 Speaker 1: that you know, worried about your own personal health because 1836 01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,400 Speaker 1: of COVID eighteen, the civil unrest brought on by the 1837 01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,320 Speaker 1: George Floyd situation. But we still had to eat, we 1838 01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,920 Speaker 1: still had to participate, and like I went out this 1839 01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:44,040 Speaker 1: past weekend and it was people are standing out the 1840 01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:48,280 Speaker 1: side and restaurant restaurant, you know, the favorite restaurants like that. 1841 01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,400 Speaker 1: We're just lined up. So it's like people out now, okay, 1842 01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:54,840 Speaker 1: but they weren't out last year. Okay. We locked down 1843 01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:56,679 Speaker 1: for two complete months and then all of a sudden, 1844 01:42:56,720 --> 01:43:00,439 Speaker 1: you have restrictions and curve side delivery. How was the 1845 01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:06,720 Speaker 1: baking industry affected by COVID eighteen. Oh it tremendously. I 1846 01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,120 Speaker 1: mean it's sad enough to see so many of our 1847 01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,880 Speaker 1: I guess business besties or whatever I have to close 1848 01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,040 Speaker 1: down and shut down. Because when they initially said that 1849 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,800 Speaker 1: everything has to close, everything has to shut down, you know, 1850 01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,360 Speaker 1: that's what people did. Um. But me and my husband 1851 01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,320 Speaker 1: we were like, okay, let's bread between the lines here 1852 01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,400 Speaker 1: for food. They didn't say we had to completely shut down. 1853 01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,759 Speaker 1: They said people couldn't come into our establishments. People wouldn't 1854 01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,200 Speaker 1: linger around. So we were like, okay, we got these 1855 01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:35,560 Speaker 1: bills to pay, These kids got to eat, right, so 1856 01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:37,800 Speaker 1: we need to continue to run this business and make 1857 01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,920 Speaker 1: this money. Right. So we're like, all right, let's pivot 1858 01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,599 Speaker 1: back to the original business plan. We already had delivery 1859 01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,879 Speaker 1: in place. We already had, thank god, you know, delivery 1860 01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,160 Speaker 1: vans and things like that. We just beat up our 1861 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:52,559 Speaker 1: delivery and we implemented a curb side pickup program, quickly 1862 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:56,759 Speaker 1: put that out there, started marketing that the floodgates open rastauant. 1863 01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean, people were calling from left and right because 1864 01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,480 Speaker 1: every other Bay Carey shut down. They still had birthdays, 1865 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,760 Speaker 1: they still had you know, a certain I guess in 1866 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,280 Speaker 1: their life that if nothing else, they wanted to make 1867 01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:11,240 Speaker 1: that event special. So we were there for them to 1868 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:15,240 Speaker 1: deliver their cupcakes, to deliver their cakes, a little personalized messages, 1869 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,040 Speaker 1: and that I mean, we got phone calls with people 1870 01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:21,200 Speaker 1: crying and tears because they were just excited to be 1871 01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:26,080 Speaker 1: able to celebrate something so special in a time like this. Yeah. Well, 1872 01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,400 Speaker 1: you know the interesting part about that whole You know, 1873 01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:30,800 Speaker 1: because if I have a younger my nephew, he has 1874 01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:34,479 Speaker 1: a barbecue staying in um Houston, Texas, Big six Barbecue, 1875 01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,200 Speaker 1: and because he had already signed up for you know, 1876 01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:41,080 Speaker 1: door Dash and Uber Eats, and so he was already 1877 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,439 Speaker 1: on the technology forefront. But what I discovered is that 1878 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,639 Speaker 1: a lot of our black businesses, African American businesses, were 1879 01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:52,599 Speaker 1: still traditional just walk in pay cash a credit card 1880 01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,320 Speaker 1: in that's was that the big awakening for a lot 1881 01:44:56,400 --> 01:45:00,280 Speaker 1: of African American restaurant businesses in is that they have 1882 01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,439 Speaker 1: to start using despite the fees that they have to 1883 01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,960 Speaker 1: use Uber each they have to use door Dash. Yeah, 1884 01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,120 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people weren't able to 1885 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,960 Speaker 1: make that transition or as like you said in one 1886 01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:15,560 Speaker 1: of your interviews, to wake up dumb, you know, and 1887 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,360 Speaker 1: being able to reinvent themselves and Amblem have different ideas 1888 01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,160 Speaker 1: and you know, just keep the world moving and don't 1889 01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:24,960 Speaker 1: forget that that that main goal that you're trying to trap. 1890 01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,640 Speaker 1: You know. Um, a lot of people have problems with that, 1891 01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:29,760 Speaker 1: and that's one of the main things that we deal 1892 01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,479 Speaker 1: with with trying to make people wake up dumb. You know, 1893 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,680 Speaker 1: we take them from f and bring them back to 1894 01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,479 Speaker 1: egg and we start them all up again because you never, 1895 01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,680 Speaker 1: you never, you can't throw those blueprint steps away. You 1896 01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:43,360 Speaker 1: always got to go back to them every time you 1897 01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,640 Speaker 1: get to the next level, go back and startle you know. Well, 1898 01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,200 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people are frust trated by 1899 01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:49,880 Speaker 1: that because they wanted to just they wanted to be 1900 01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,200 Speaker 1: the same dude. And when it's when it's they didn't 1901 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:56,240 Speaker 1: start pointing fingers, that's all you know. I didn't expect that. 1902 01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:58,080 Speaker 1: I didn't play for that. Well, I don't know if 1903 01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm playing to wake up I don't. I love to 1904 01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,040 Speaker 1: think that I can wake up healthy every day. When 1905 01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:04,559 Speaker 1: I don't wake up without a cold or with the cold, 1906 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,960 Speaker 1: then it affects my whole day. But I can't affect 1907 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,600 Speaker 1: my business model and the business models you guys had. 1908 01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:14,160 Speaker 1: The place was store from y'all. Y'all was winning, y'all 1909 01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:15,960 Speaker 1: was doing it. Then I don't tell y'all said that 1910 01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:22,439 Speaker 1: didn't work. Why you you? It's again you You got 1911 01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:26,679 Speaker 1: kids to feed, You got visions, um, you see yourself 1912 01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:29,600 Speaker 1: somewhere in the near future, and we have we have 1913 01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,519 Speaker 1: points that we have to hit right. This stuff down 1914 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,240 Speaker 1: every day right, we don't need that mark. Then we 1915 01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,000 Speaker 1: have to get back together, figure out something and get 1916 01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,519 Speaker 1: you a little huddle, make a boy there, and we 1917 01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,120 Speaker 1: keep on going and nothing, nothing stops us because the 1918 01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:46,360 Speaker 1: thing is or sean, this thing it has to work 1919 01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,920 Speaker 1: or has to work. Our dreams are so dog on big. 1920 01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't care what roadblocks come in our way. We're 1921 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,479 Speaker 1: gonna figure out a way to go around it, over it, 1922 01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,160 Speaker 1: under it, through, whatever the case may be. Because we 1923 01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:01,240 Speaker 1: have these dream as, they have to get done. So 1924 01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,840 Speaker 1: there's no time to sit and wallow in or make 1925 01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,559 Speaker 1: excuses like, oh my gosh, the world is crashing down 1926 01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,880 Speaker 1: around us. But guess what, like you said, we're still 1927 01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,400 Speaker 1: alive here, so we have the neck, we have the 1928 01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,840 Speaker 1: wherewithal to still figure this thing out and make it go. 1929 01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:16,600 Speaker 1: It may not be perfect and may not be what 1930 01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:19,200 Speaker 1: we thought about, but as long as we're awake in 1931 01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:21,640 Speaker 1: here and breathing, God has given us the will to 1932 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,080 Speaker 1: keep pushing forward. And that's what we're trying to teach 1933 01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:27,840 Speaker 1: these people, these bankers, these business owners that you can't 1934 01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,599 Speaker 1: be tunnel vision because a COVID is going to happen again, 1935 01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,639 Speaker 1: it's just in another form. That market is going to crash, 1936 01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,680 Speaker 1: Another economic downturn is going to happen, and you're going 1937 01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,280 Speaker 1: to have to be resilient enough to push through and 1938 01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:42,000 Speaker 1: keep pushing forward. Now, you guys, host, there are live 1939 01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:45,759 Speaker 1: training class for bakers every Thursday, you know, giving them secrets. 1940 01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,160 Speaker 1: Walk us through that staff, Rob, what exactly is that 1941 01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:53,680 Speaker 1: live Thursday session? Well, when when when we first leave 1942 01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,720 Speaker 1: with you you know, we tell you our story so 1943 01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:57,720 Speaker 1: that you can be comfortable with us and you can 1944 01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,680 Speaker 1: understand it. We come from the same place that you 1945 01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:03,200 Speaker 1: go from. You know, we've been through so much, We've 1946 01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:06,400 Speaker 1: seen so much, and there's nothing better than learning from 1947 01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,960 Speaker 1: somebody who has to experience, you know. For a lot 1948 01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,040 Speaker 1: of people, that's the only way to learn. You need 1949 01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:14,000 Speaker 1: a mentor, you know. So we start off with that, 1950 01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:16,880 Speaker 1: and then we go back to letting everybody know that 1951 01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:19,639 Speaker 1: there are no secrets, right you know, there there really 1952 01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:23,479 Speaker 1: are no secrets. Is hard work, dedication, and and and 1953 01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:26,599 Speaker 1: getting over at home. Stop avoiding the home, stop going 1954 01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:28,880 Speaker 1: around the home, you know. And and we like to 1955 01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,120 Speaker 1: hold people accountable for what they do, and they love that, 1956 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,720 Speaker 1: you know. We make sure that they're on par we 1957 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,040 Speaker 1: make sure that they're doing what they're supposed to. If 1958 01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,560 Speaker 1: they're skipping steps were on them. So a lot of 1959 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:42,360 Speaker 1: people just need that accountability, you know. But going back 1960 01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,200 Speaker 1: to the basis is the main thing, because we deal 1961 01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,240 Speaker 1: with a lot of people who are already in business 1962 01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:49,479 Speaker 1: and they believe that they have to know it all. 1963 01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,080 Speaker 1: They have the smart scenari at a certain level, but 1964 01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:55,200 Speaker 1: they still can't get over their home because they failed 1965 01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,639 Speaker 1: to start from the beginning and realize that certain things 1966 01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:02,800 Speaker 1: they get, you get stuff you cannot get. Stuffs in 1967 01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:04,760 Speaker 1: this you know, it will come back to haunt you. 1968 01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,360 Speaker 1: Sure don't get to a certain point, but it will 1969 01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:10,720 Speaker 1: come back to haunt you. I'm talking to Robin Jen 1970 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:14,280 Speaker 1: mars Uh. They live in the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania area, and 1971 01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,320 Speaker 1: they have a company called the Start, Small, Wind, Big Academy, 1972 01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,360 Speaker 1: and it teaches bakers of all ages that I'm very 1973 01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,080 Speaker 1: much aware of this as a blueprint. And when you 1974 01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:25,880 Speaker 1: start talking about business, they're just saying bakers. Because you know, 1975 01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,439 Speaker 1: if you're a mechanic, you want to you want to 1976 01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,200 Speaker 1: talk from your strength. If you started talking about it, 1977 01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how the mechanics shop. People gonna go, well, 1978 01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:34,840 Speaker 1: you know about being a mechanic. But see that's all 1979 01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,080 Speaker 1: they're just saying. You know, they say, hey, we're gonna 1980 01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:40,360 Speaker 1: tell you how to be successful as bakers, but quote unquote, 1981 01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,080 Speaker 1: we also tell you how to be successful as entrepreneurs. 1982 01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:45,840 Speaker 1: But you just sometimes you just can't jump out there 1983 01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:49,840 Speaker 1: and give yourself a title because people don't know whether 1984 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,360 Speaker 1: what are you referencing, Well, what is your line of work. 1985 01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,439 Speaker 1: What level of expertise are you drawing it on? And 1986 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:59,400 Speaker 1: so now you're teaching bakers. Now this used rae Sean 1987 01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:02,519 Speaker 1: McDonald's example. Like I said, I already shack. I can 1988 01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,120 Speaker 1: make me some good apple turnovers. I can make me 1989 01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,760 Speaker 1: some good perch comb I can, I can, I can, 1990 01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:10,680 Speaker 1: I can cheesecakes. I can't mess with your board with 1991 01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:16,760 Speaker 1: cheesecake lenge. You stopped talking to me. I hang up 1992 01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,960 Speaker 1: on you start talking about with me cheesecake. Now you 1993 01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:23,519 Speaker 1: know the relationship gonna go south. You start messing my cheesecake. Now. 1994 01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:28,879 Speaker 1: See I said, y'all, earl, I couldn't make no cupcakes. 1995 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,200 Speaker 1: I told you all that. I was very hard. I 1996 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:35,200 Speaker 1: was willing to confess the ignorance of cupcake. And you win. 1997 01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:38,439 Speaker 1: That's so easy. I ken't believe you. That's stupid. That's 1998 01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:46,200 Speaker 1: all you say. Right there. I look at that little 1999 01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,200 Speaker 1: cupcake you cause see see, cupcakes get to me because 2000 01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:51,840 Speaker 1: you have so many different cupcakes. You that the big 2001 01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:55,400 Speaker 1: old jumbo cupcake and be huge and be flooring on. 2002 01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,640 Speaker 1: I can never make that one. I can sweat you can. 2003 01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:00,479 Speaker 1: And then people tell me with Sean, you living up 2004 01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,120 Speaker 1: too much. And then I'm trying to figure out how 2005 01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:06,960 Speaker 1: do I get my little cupcake to rise and then 2006 01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:12,599 Speaker 1: hold that that that that crown. That don't look. That's 2007 01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,280 Speaker 1: where I'm at. Gin, That's what your boy can't do. 2008 01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:19,519 Speaker 1: I have tried. What am I doing wrong? I'm talking 2009 01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:24,600 Speaker 1: to wrong? Broth bro got wrong because she laughed. He 2010 01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:33,040 Speaker 1: got way too many talents. You do it, you can't 2011 01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,920 Speaker 1: do them all. I gotta do this because see, you know, 2012 01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:37,519 Speaker 1: because because you know the thing about this is that 2013 01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm always one of these people that I enjoy life. 2014 01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,080 Speaker 1: That's just see. That's why I wanted to get you 2015 01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:45,240 Speaker 1: guys on not on the interview about your business starts 2016 01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:49,280 Speaker 1: some all win big academy, but about relationships. And I 2017 01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:53,200 Speaker 1: know that that's key. And the home environment is key 2018 01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:56,040 Speaker 1: to whether you're in business or not. What do you 2019 01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:58,960 Speaker 1: bring home if you're having a good dad business, or 2020 01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,400 Speaker 1: you're bringing that a day at home, or or you 2021 01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,680 Speaker 1: bringing a consistent personality at home. I had a bad day. 2022 01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:07,439 Speaker 1: I'm coming home feeling bad and putting it on top 2023 01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,479 Speaker 1: of the children, putting that on top of the wife, 2024 01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:12,120 Speaker 1: and and then waking up the next day caring that 2025 01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:15,600 Speaker 1: same negative energy back out the door. And to create confusion. 2026 01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:18,800 Speaker 1: And so the relationship power of what you have to 2027 01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:24,120 Speaker 1: talk about leads into banking credit your customers, customer servers, 2028 01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:27,320 Speaker 1: and so you guys are dealing with people who may 2029 01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,479 Speaker 1: be in business or who have a home business. They're 2030 01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:33,320 Speaker 1: trying to expand beyond that, or never even thought about it, 2031 01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:36,240 Speaker 1: but just a great chelfs, a great pastry shelfs at 2032 01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,479 Speaker 1: their house, and somebody has told them they got a good, 2033 01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:41,360 Speaker 1: great cookie recipe. Let's let's go to each level of 2034 01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,840 Speaker 1: that conversation. Let's go to the person who somebody has 2035 01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,840 Speaker 1: told them they know or them cookies are good. You 2036 01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:49,400 Speaker 1: need to stop giving them a weight, you need to 2037 01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:52,320 Speaker 1: start selling. Let's talk about how do you communicate with 2038 01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:57,200 Speaker 1: that person. It's all about what are your goals? I 2039 01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:59,720 Speaker 1: always ask two questions on my interviews. I do one 2040 01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:03,080 Speaker 1: on on booking a strategy calls as well, So I 2041 01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:07,439 Speaker 1: always ask number one, why is this so important for 2042 01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,040 Speaker 1: you right now? What does this mean? What is getting 2043 01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,400 Speaker 1: this business up and running mean to you? Number one? 2044 01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:14,479 Speaker 1: And I don't want to hear nothing about oh, people 2045 01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:16,519 Speaker 1: saying my cookies taste good, I should sell them, or 2046 01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:18,880 Speaker 1: oh I just love the way people you know, dance 2047 01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:22,960 Speaker 1: when they taste my cookies? What does this mean to you, 2048 01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,760 Speaker 1: to your family, to your life? Right? What kind of 2049 01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,280 Speaker 1: legacies you are trying to leave? A number two? What 2050 01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:32,160 Speaker 1: if it doesn't go well? What if it doesn't pan out? Right? 2051 01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:34,920 Speaker 1: And then I want to hear that person say, because 2052 01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:36,880 Speaker 1: I know that they're serious. I want to hear that 2053 01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,680 Speaker 1: person saying, well, that's that's not an option. So it's 2054 01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,640 Speaker 1: not an option. G I'm not even thinking about that. 2055 01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:44,439 Speaker 1: That's what I want to hear from that person because 2056 01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:46,960 Speaker 1: now I know I can take my time with them, 2057 01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:49,519 Speaker 1: and I can put my all incident and work hard 2058 01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:51,920 Speaker 1: on their business as well, because I know that they're 2059 01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:55,360 Speaker 1: going to go all the way through versus the person 2060 01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,920 Speaker 1: who was just doing it because someone told them, oh, 2061 01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:01,519 Speaker 1: your cookies are great, you know, or a huge difference 2062 01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:06,280 Speaker 1: between that CEO, that business owner mindset versus just you 2063 01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,080 Speaker 1: know what entrepreneur mindset is different? Well, you know, the 2064 01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:13,559 Speaker 1: COVID has really changed online business because people now will 2065 01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,720 Speaker 1: order immediately, you know, And so that's when you get 2066 01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,839 Speaker 1: into the dry eyes the ship. Who's your primary shipper? 2067 01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:23,320 Speaker 1: How do you build the cost into your overall pricing? 2068 01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:26,680 Speaker 1: Now we We just talked about the person who has 2069 01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:29,000 Speaker 1: the great idea. Like you said, people dance when they 2070 01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:32,880 Speaker 1: eat their little pie. Girl, you need the lord first. 2071 01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:35,440 Speaker 1: That's a good, good, good pie right there. Now we've 2072 01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,240 Speaker 1: got a person who has the business. You know, they 2073 01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, they were hit by COVID and they trying 2074 01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:43,600 Speaker 1: to get a business loan or they're trying to do 2075 01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,680 Speaker 1: a financial model. Let's talk about that person. How do 2076 01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:51,640 Speaker 1: you communicate with that person there? Yeah? Sure, I mean 2077 01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:54,880 Speaker 1: we we go right back to you know, the name 2078 01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:57,280 Speaker 1: of the course starts smaller in bid you know, um 2079 01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,600 Speaker 1: for people in that situation, you can't ain't start off 2080 01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:02,960 Speaker 1: a bit, you know, And there's nothing wrong with starting 2081 01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:04,800 Speaker 1: off small. We let people learn at all the time 2082 01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:07,800 Speaker 1: because that's how we started. You start off what you got. 2083 01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:10,840 Speaker 1: If you're wanting to make it work, you start off 2084 01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:13,240 Speaker 1: with what you got. Start off small, you start selling 2085 01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, here and there, you get your product out there. 2086 01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,160 Speaker 1: That's the main point, because the money will come. We 2087 01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:21,000 Speaker 1: always let to know the money will come later on. 2088 01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:24,120 Speaker 1: But the most important thing is to perfect your skills 2089 01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:27,320 Speaker 1: right now. Are you able to be a salesperson? You know, 2090 01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:30,320 Speaker 1: that's also important. If you can't sell your product, what 2091 01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:33,120 Speaker 1: good is it? So we we we teach people the 2092 01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:35,240 Speaker 1: skills that they need on the back and at the beginning, 2093 01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:38,960 Speaker 1: so so when they do get the money required, whatever 2094 01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:41,120 Speaker 1: way it takes them too, they'll be ready for that. 2095 01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:44,640 Speaker 1: So there's always something to do. There's never no reason 2096 01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:47,960 Speaker 1: to stand still. And that's that's very important. Just because 2097 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:49,800 Speaker 1: you don't have the money does not mean that you 2098 01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,960 Speaker 1: can't do the rest of the leg work. And there's 2099 01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:54,640 Speaker 1: a lot you know that absolutely. I think that the 2100 01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,600 Speaker 1: number one problem that people have in business. And I 2101 01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,840 Speaker 1: had it too because I I open a comedy club 2102 01:55:59,920 --> 01:56:02,440 Speaker 1: and didn't have a business plan. Nowhere, I just don't hear, 2103 01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:04,680 Speaker 1: I'll sell this ticket. I didn't know about taxes. I 2104 01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,360 Speaker 1: didn't know about the liquor tax. You know, I just 2105 01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:08,800 Speaker 1: I just saw ten dollars and then realize what all 2106 01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:12,320 Speaker 1: came out of that ten dollars. You know, employment and 2107 01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:15,240 Speaker 1: hiring people come out of that ten dollar taxes. You 2108 01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:18,720 Speaker 1: gotta pay admission taxes for the tickets I sold the door, 2109 01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:21,720 Speaker 1: The liquor sales came out of that ten dollars kept 2110 01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:25,040 Speaker 1: getting smaller and smaller, and then and that's what that's 2111 01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:27,360 Speaker 1: what we see. We just see that that that that 2112 01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,560 Speaker 1: dollar amount. So when you when you when you were talking, 2113 01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:32,800 Speaker 1: because you have a number of successful e books and 2114 01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,520 Speaker 1: selling I think like a CEO Baker's Edition and things 2115 01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,520 Speaker 1: like that. With these books available or they're available on 2116 01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:41,760 Speaker 1: Amazon worth these are e books available right now. No, 2117 01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:45,880 Speaker 1: they're on our website, UM robbing jen Mars dot com 2118 01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:48,040 Speaker 1: um and you can also get to that from our 2119 01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:51,080 Speaker 1: Instagram too. And so the e book is a layout, 2120 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:55,200 Speaker 1: it's a blueprint written for you what tons of examples 2121 01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,760 Speaker 1: in there because you know, real life examples, because we're 2122 01:56:57,840 --> 01:56:59,800 Speaker 1: not just the people you know who are just going 2123 01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:03,760 Speaker 1: to getting business jargon. You know business names, um, you 2124 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,760 Speaker 1: know market analysis and things like that that goes off 2125 01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:09,760 Speaker 1: for over people's heads, right, we really want to break 2126 01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:13,360 Speaker 1: this thing down for you. For that person who've never 2127 01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:15,800 Speaker 1: seen business, who's never been a part of business. And 2128 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:17,320 Speaker 1: that's a lot of our people, that's a lot of 2129 01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:21,400 Speaker 1: African Americans that we have this knack and talent, right 2130 01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:23,720 Speaker 1: and we're born with these gifts. We can cook, we 2131 01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,480 Speaker 1: can big, we can so we can do all of 2132 01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:31,400 Speaker 1: these things. But there's no um, there was no visual 2133 01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:35,000 Speaker 1: for them to see the business plan to see the 2134 01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:39,000 Speaker 1: business structure and layout. So they don't know these terms, 2135 01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,440 Speaker 1: but they do know when somebody's saying, listen, you're you 2136 01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,440 Speaker 1: have an eight inch poundcake, double layer frosting, right, and 2137 01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,240 Speaker 1: you want selling it for and you think you, oh, 2138 01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,960 Speaker 1: you're getting ten orders. No, you're getting ten orders a 2139 01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:53,440 Speaker 1: day because you're selling it for twenty five hours. So 2140 01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:55,960 Speaker 1: let's put this thing down and get this thing so 2141 01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:59,280 Speaker 1: for fifty dollars to your profit to move to the 2142 01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:03,360 Speaker 1: next level. It's just things like that that we make 2143 01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:06,720 Speaker 1: it as fun as possible, as easy as possible. But 2144 01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,960 Speaker 1: the point is we're trying to teach our people, you know, 2145 01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,840 Speaker 1: business something that we didn't grow up saying. But those 2146 01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:15,120 Speaker 1: of Gin and Robber. When you just said that about 2147 01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,480 Speaker 1: the twenty five dollar cake, just as an example, that's 2148 01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:21,240 Speaker 1: the big fear, you know, you know, I will people 2149 01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:24,400 Speaker 1: buy thirty dollar cake when they buy thirty five it's 2150 01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:27,160 Speaker 1: your value and also what's your business model, you know, 2151 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:29,640 Speaker 1: and how you promoted it, because that's really the key, 2152 01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,720 Speaker 1: because people are at a break even business right there 2153 01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:35,920 Speaker 1: because they don't know how to price, they don't look 2154 01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:38,360 Speaker 1: at what their competitors are selling. That's also smart to 2155 01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:40,360 Speaker 1: see what your competitors are selling. That cake ad that 2156 01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:43,720 Speaker 1: don't know add that that croissant or that cupcake ad, 2157 01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,680 Speaker 1: and so you know how to go about looking at 2158 01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:49,920 Speaker 1: it from a long term perspective. Because when I look 2159 01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:51,880 Speaker 1: at when I when I look at trying to talk 2160 01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,360 Speaker 1: to entrepreneurs, I try to talk to them from a 2161 01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:56,880 Speaker 1: from a natural standpoint. You said something very key to me. 2162 01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:01,080 Speaker 1: I hate reading motivational books with people are not successful. 2163 01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:02,760 Speaker 1: When people write there's a lot of people write books 2164 01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:04,800 Speaker 1: like that. They're not successful. They write they motivate you. 2165 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't know where they motivate you from where? You know? 2166 01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:10,080 Speaker 1: Do you have money in the bank? You know they 2167 01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:13,520 Speaker 1: got financial broke? What do you say? You know? And 2168 01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:16,560 Speaker 1: so that's why I recommended you guys are coming from 2169 01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,200 Speaker 1: a point a reality. This is what you guys have 2170 01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:22,440 Speaker 1: been successful as a living. Now you want online to 2171 01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:25,400 Speaker 1: show other people a point of reference. You're not when 2172 01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,680 Speaker 1: you like we we joke about the baking, and we 2173 01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:30,839 Speaker 1: joke about the cupcake. But this is what you do, okay, 2174 01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:32,960 Speaker 1: And so that is not what I do. If I 2175 01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:34,400 Speaker 1: come on here talk about how I would tell you 2176 01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:36,680 Speaker 1: how to make a good bakery. Now, people might listen 2177 01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:39,080 Speaker 1: to him because of Rush mcdalth, but I advise you 2178 01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:44,400 Speaker 1: listen to Robert Gins that you know, I'll tell you 2179 01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:46,880 Speaker 1: a good story or what you should do. And how 2180 01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,680 Speaker 1: about that cupcake shou cost? And how pretty and look 2181 01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:53,240 Speaker 1: in some decorations, but the manufacturing where they go get it? 2182 01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,840 Speaker 1: What our what type you needed? What type you need? 2183 01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:57,200 Speaker 1: To make sure you get you in that in the 2184 01:59:57,320 --> 01:59:59,040 Speaker 1: in the in the shelf so you can get rid 2185 01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:00,720 Speaker 1: of it and get your soul. Mean you should make 2186 02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:04,240 Speaker 1: pride to open your door. That is not me. And 2187 02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:07,240 Speaker 1: there are people out there selling uh. I always talk 2188 02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:10,240 Speaker 1: willy food food tickets. I was like called foodish tickets. 2189 02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:14,160 Speaker 1: You guys are the real deal. Robert Jen Morris. I'm 2190 02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:16,320 Speaker 1: so happy to bring you on the show because I 2191 02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:19,120 Speaker 1: like reality and what I want to do is I 2192 02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:21,320 Speaker 1: want to make sure I promote you because I would 2193 02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:23,280 Speaker 1: do a weekly newsletter and I want to make sure 2194 02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:25,760 Speaker 1: I promote that in my newsletter. So we can encourage 2195 02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:28,520 Speaker 1: people to go to your Thursday live sessions and start 2196 02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:32,040 Speaker 1: just listening and listening and start building your brand because 2197 02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:34,640 Speaker 1: that's what money making conversation is all about. Thank you. 2198 02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:37,600 Speaker 1: We appreciate that so much. It's so important for us 2199 02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:40,360 Speaker 1: to get this out here because like I said, we 2200 02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:45,480 Speaker 1: as a people are amazing, okay, and it's not enough 2201 02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:50,520 Speaker 1: anymore in to keep our greatness a well kept secret 2202 02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:54,200 Speaker 1: as a side huggle. Okay, I'm done with that side hustling. 2203 02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:56,680 Speaker 1: We are out here. We have to just rebuild this 2204 02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:00,720 Speaker 1: economic community in ourselves and rebuild every and you know, 2205 02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:03,600 Speaker 1: um black Wall Street. Let's get this back up and 2206 02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:06,320 Speaker 1: run it right within our own communities. And that's what 2207 02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:09,040 Speaker 1: we're here to do. We're here. We've lost so many businesses, 2208 02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:12,000 Speaker 1: black owned businesses, all businesses, but we're here to help 2209 02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:15,959 Speaker 1: them rebuild these businesses on this community, in these communities. 2210 02:01:16,040 --> 02:01:18,840 Speaker 1: So that's what we're passionate about. An arision. It feels good. 2211 02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:22,120 Speaker 1: You look good, You look good like you know, you know, 2212 02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:24,200 Speaker 1: ugly on the t V. I say, we need to 2213 02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:27,400 Speaker 1: do this, huh audio, Why but y'all look good. Your 2214 02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:30,320 Speaker 1: teeth white, that's all good side. And you know, you know, 2215 02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:32,520 Speaker 1: ain't no teeth missing, and there's no crooked teeth. You know, 2216 02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:36,000 Speaker 1: y'all look at successful. That's y'all cash. You ain'tybody sweating, 2217 02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:39,160 Speaker 1: that's all good but I just want to appreciate you 2218 02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:40,800 Speaker 1: all taking the time to come on my show and 2219 02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:43,360 Speaker 1: talk about your academy. And my job is now to 2220 02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:45,960 Speaker 1: promote what you're doing get the word out. So send 2221 02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:47,600 Speaker 1: us some banners so we can get the word out 2222 02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,600 Speaker 1: about your academy. I definitely want to promote your online 2223 02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:52,400 Speaker 1: books that have been so successful in the past and 2224 02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:55,280 Speaker 1: currently selling and drive people to your website. Thank you 2225 02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:58,320 Speaker 1: robbing Jen Marris straight out of Philadelphia. It got straight 2226 02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:05,880 Speaker 1: out of Comptom. 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Everything should not be taken personally. 2233 02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:29,480 Speaker 1: So I absolutely agree with you, and if we don't 2234 02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:32,480 Speaker 1: have that understanding, and if we're always taking things personally, 2235 02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:35,680 Speaker 1: will always be responding to any and everything to where 2236 02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:38,280 Speaker 1: it will take so much energy it will shift our 2237 02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:40,760 Speaker 1: focus off of what we really should be focused on. 2238 02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:43,560 Speaker 1: And so I have had to learn that the picture 2239 02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:47,440 Speaker 1: is bigger than me. It's it's so far beyond one moment, 2240 02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:50,480 Speaker 1: like be a student at every opportunity you get. 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