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Speaker 1: last night's games. We're gonna hit the beach for a

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Speaker 1: little beach step in. You guys send it some great questions.

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Speaker 1: I really like this batchup questions we have on Today show.

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Speaker 1: Task the Indiana Pacers, they have a simple mess this

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Speaker 1: holiday season. Hit us up. Sources told The Athletics San

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Speaker 1: Jaranya and Bob Kravitz that the Pacers have decided to

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Speaker 1: rebuild after a very slow ten and sixteen start. So bonus,

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Speaker 1: Turner and Lavert. They're all on the trade block here

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Speaker 2: Task excited for everybody, excited for basketball fans. It's like Christmas.

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Speaker 7: That'd be interesting to monitor that. But ten and sixteen, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Trey, I know we've talked about this a couple

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Speaker 5: bringing in some bonus. It's more of a change to

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Speaker 5: Playersbonis Turner and Lavert GMS might not have been asking

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Speaker 5: for Demanta Sabonis for Christmas, but if you open a

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Speaker 5: Demanta Sabonis on Christmas, you're gonna be happy. Right. It's

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Speaker 7: I think you've probably you've got. The conversation started there

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Speaker 7: they're two better players. They're not going to trade those,

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Speaker 7: somehow as well to make it happen.

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Speaker 1: I also saw Eric Pinkis in writing about Sibonis the

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Speaker 2: getting him right now. You are not getting your Christmas

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Speaker 2: Sabona's at this point. No, No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Maybe because he's already a two time all start, you

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Speaker 2: And so what I think is the Pacers have opened

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Speaker 3: Some good offers.

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Speaker 2: I think they're they're they're saying to everybody, these these

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Speaker 2: And so I think people will be bidding against each other.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Lakers have the assets to go

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Speaker 1: The Lakers are always screwed because they have three guys

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Speaker 1: I'm with it's very difficult for them to come up

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Speaker 2: I think their future is Kelly Olinick. Every single time

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Speaker 5: I think that had us a bonus and gotten Olinik,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, d game and getting Boots high Christmas thanks Mom,

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Speaker 2: We just saw the MAVs uh last night. They need

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Speaker 2: they need a guard. I don't have a good Green

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Speaker 1: looking for shooters around Luka doncic As. We'll get to

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Speaker 7: Well, and also in that article, Herb Simon apparently has

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Speaker 5: Well, I hope Simon says blow it up, because the

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Speaker 5: Pacers one hundred percent need a star. In that Bob

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Speaker 5: the top ten since nineteen eighty nine. That seems almost unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Sorry, I thought the Pacers had picked

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Speaker 5: It's not uncommon, doesn't happen a lot in the NBA,

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Speaker 5: Little is out. They're on a three game losing streak.

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Speaker 5: They've lost six of seven. The one thing they really

430
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Speaker 5: had coming into this season was guarded depth, and now

431
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 5: they don't even have that. Not to mention, the rebuild

432
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 5: question is obviously hanging over everybody's head right now. So

433
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Speaker 5: does this accelerate that. Does it make it harder to

434
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Speaker 5: trade CJ. McCollum, Probably not. Does it give the Blazers

435
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 5: time to consider their options? Also? Probably not. When it rains,

436
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 5: it pours, and it rains a lot in Portland, so

437
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 5: it's pouring a lot, right now just hope CJ gets

438
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 5: feeling better pretty quickly. But just the latest in all tough,

439
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 5: tough month for Blazers fans.

440
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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, and CJ's specifically here with trade

441
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Speaker 1: rumors hanging over his head tasks. I know he has

442
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Speaker 1: a birth of his child coming up. I think it's

443
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: right around the corner. And then now this injury, which again, yeah,

444
00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 1: sounds devastating. Hopefully it's not too bad. Maybe missus a

445
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 1: week or two here, but yeah, what'd you think when

446
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 1: you heard the McCollum news, And how do you answer

447
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: Trey's question, what does this do to the idea of

448
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: trading him sort of quickly or not?

449
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Speaker 3: Well? Horrendous news.

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has said that his child is coming in

451
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 2: one to five weeks, so he knows the timeline is coming,

452
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: and that basically lines up with him also in the

453
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Speaker 2: hospital visiting for a collapse long, which yes, is horrendous.

454
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Speaker 2: As Zach Harper put, I think that's perfect and it's

455
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Speaker 2: horrible for him. I don't think it really changes anything

456
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Speaker 2: in terms of trade value. I just don't think it

457
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Speaker 2: really does much. It's not a basketball type entry, and

458
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: hopefully he'll be on the floor sooner.

459
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Speaker 3: Rather than later.

460
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Speaker 2: But in positive spend, maybe this gives him some time off,

461
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Speaker 2: some little pat leave, little paternity leave, have a baby,

462
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Speaker 2: chill out and stay away from basketball for a little bit,

463
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Speaker 2: and then come back and hopefully everything will be better.

464
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

465
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Speaker 2: If you look around the league, sometimes guys go out,

466
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 2: look at John Moran in Memphis, stars go out, and

467
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: teams find find a way to play together. I know

468
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: Portland is just simply struggling with their guys out and

469
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Speaker 2: Damian Lillard out, But who the heck knows. Maybe they

470
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Speaker 2: can rally it. I guess that's the only way you

471
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: can look at it. But I don't think it changes

472
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: that calculus. That's a fun word. That's a word people

473
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Speaker 2: are throwing around when it comes to trades. I don't

474
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Speaker 2: think it changes anything when gyms are looking at CJ.

475
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Speaker 3: McCollum.

476
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Speaker 1: Really anything to add to this McCollum news or the

477
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Speaker 1: Blazers moving forward. I know we've talked about them a

478
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Speaker 1: lot of the last couple of days.

479
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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I don't think it actually changes I think,

480
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Speaker 7: you know, hopefully he will be back in a few

481
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Speaker 7: weeks time at most here, So it definitely sounds gross.

482
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Speaker 7: But if you're interested in c J McCollum, this is

483
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Speaker 7: not like an ACL or something like that where he

484
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Speaker 7: could potentially be at for an entire season. It sounds

485
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Speaker 7: like it's more just a few weeks. So if you

486
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Speaker 7: want CJ, I think you'll still go get Try to

487
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Speaker 7: get him if you can.

488
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Speaker 1: Caleb here in the stream team says a no Dunk's

489
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Speaker 1: blazer shirt would be a great Christmas gift to the

490
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Speaker 1: Blazers fans. That would be the only great thing to

491
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Speaker 1: have happened to the season. Frost Blazers fan. Wow, Caleb,

492
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: come on, check up man? Uh yeah, a Blazer shirt.

493
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: I want to rip city, rip farts, rip farts. Just

494
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Speaker 1: I'm just spitball in here coming up with something different.

495
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Speaker 5: Fart city, fart city, classic city.

496
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Speaker 3: You yeah, yeah, you went.

497
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Speaker 5: Why does it have to be fart thing?

498
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Speaker 1: I guess I know.

499
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Speaker 5: Well, I thought city, and then.

500
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Speaker 1: I immediately thought ripped.

501
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, fair enough, you know, rip farts. I

502
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: just think ripped shitty. I mean that's rip shitty.

503
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Speaker 4: Wow, I thought that.

504
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Speaker 1: Yeah, can we put that on the T shirt? All

505
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: right over there? What happened there?

506
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

507
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Speaker 7: I just I just bought my computer here you just

508
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 7: trying to think of this. If there's anything cap Portland

509
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 7: weed off that that we can throw in it.

510
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Speaker 1: But keep them weird. Yeah, and then with a big

511
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Speaker 1: fart on the back, we have to have a fart.

512
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Speaker 5: Must be Okay, I just thought something dumb. Remind me

513
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Speaker 5: to say it later.

514
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Speaker 1: Let's get to last night's games. Only three on so

515
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Speaker 1: we can probably touch on all three of these. Let's

516
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Speaker 1: start with the Brooklyn Nets beating the Mavericks one O

517
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Speaker 1: two ninety nine. Nice comeback victory here handed Dallas, Dallas,

518
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: excuse me, their fifth consecutive home loss. They can't win

519
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Speaker 1: in Texas. Task What your big takeaways from the nets victory?

520
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's really all that sexy to

521
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: talk about a team sort of getting better slowly as

522
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: the season goes on. But I think that's what you

523
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 2: look at the Brooklyn Nets, and that's what's happening.

524
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Speaker 3: It's like they're.

525
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Speaker 2: Building a championship thing. They haven't really looked like a

526
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Speaker 2: championship team, even though they're the top team in the

527
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Speaker 2: Eastern Conference. Really it's Kevin Durant and everybody else on

528
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Speaker 2: this team. Kevin Durant has looked like either the best

529
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Speaker 2: or the second best player in the league, and then

530
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Speaker 2: everybody else is just, you know, coming along for the ride. Recently,

531
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Speaker 2: they haven't beaten the good teams in the league, but

532
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Speaker 2: I think this is a win that shows they are

533
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Speaker 2: growing a little bit. I think James hard is finally

534
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: looking his best. He fooled me at the beginning of

535
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 2: the season saying it was scary time for the rest

536
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: of the league coming into the season. It was scary

537
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Speaker 2: watching him at the beginning of the year. He didn't

538
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: look like James Harden. But right now he looks phenomenal.

539
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: He looks like he's got those moves back where he

540
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: can just sort of plow into everybody to keep that

541
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Speaker 2: ball tight in towards the chest and create some space

542
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Speaker 2: and throw it up and score. I think he was

543
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Speaker 2: the one who helped close it out, really with Kevin

544
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Speaker 2: Durant as this team struggled in a game that I

545
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Speaker 2: don't think they would have won the first quarter of

546
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Speaker 2: the season because Harden hasn't been that great him. Patty

547
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Speaker 2: Mills obviously was great in the fourth quarter. I think

548
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Speaker 2: Harden is better now because Nick Claxton is back. He's

549
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Speaker 2: starting to play more. He's a lob threat gives Harden

550
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: a little bit more space. He played twenty one minutes

551
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Speaker 2: most since Game one of the season for Nick Claxton.

552
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Speaker 3: They just need him.

553
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Speaker 2: Mister LaMarcus Aldridge remains reliable fifteen points or thirteen and

554
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Speaker 2: three when he scores in double digit Shout out to

555
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Speaker 2: Alex Shiffer. That's a good stat Like, I'm naming all

556
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Speaker 2: these guys because they need all these guys. Really, they

557
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: need all these guys to play solid. James Johnson has

558
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: been sixty and forty over his last ten because guys

559
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: like Millsap not being great, Blake Griffin out of the rotation,

560
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: Bruce Brown in and out of the rotation. Cam Thomas

561
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: looks alid this shape. But they just are a team

562
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: that Steve Nash reminds us has had a lot of

563
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: turnover from last year and needs to come along slowly,

564
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Speaker 2: and they're doing that again number one in the East.

565
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: So people can say, hey, they're not beating the good

566
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Speaker 2: teams they DGAF in Brooklyn.

567
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Speaker 3: Because they're just getting better. And again they're the one seed.

568
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Speaker 2: I think the more worries some thing is looking at

569
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Speaker 2: Luka Doncic and the headline out of this one, and

570
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Speaker 2: it's something that we talked about in October November was

571
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Speaker 2: he does not look all that well conditioned. And if

572
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Speaker 2: you come out and you say it after the game,

573
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Speaker 2: you say I'm not in great shape, well you're going

574
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Speaker 2: to get railed for it.

575
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Speaker 3: And he just doesn't. He doesn't.

576
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Speaker 2: The last possession where he could have tied the game,

577
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Speaker 2: he took that three, missed it, and then he had

578
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Speaker 2: a wide open three and didn't take it. He's just

579
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Speaker 2: not Luca. If you don't take a why it open

580
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: three to tie game, you're not Luca Dotrits. You're just

581
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: not feeling like yourself. And if he comes out after

582
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Speaker 2: the game and says that he's not feeling all that.

583
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Speaker 3: All that.

584
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Speaker 2: In great shape, like he feels like he's at the

585
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Speaker 2: top of his conditioning, that's why the MAVs are sort

586
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: of good one day and not great the other day

587
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: because Luca's not feeling good.

588
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Speaker 3: So that's that's that's Is it.

589
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: Worrisome that he's in here a year four and he

590
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: doesn't know how to train In the off season, he said,

591
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: you know, he played in the Olympics and then he

592
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 2: maybe partied a little too hard or relaxed, a little

593
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Speaker 2: too hard, maybe hitting the Luca hookah a little too

594
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: hard and not and having a little too much fun

595
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Speaker 2: out there.

596
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

597
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: I guess it's not worrisome if he's being honest with himself.

598
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 2: If he had a little more help, it wouldn't be

599
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: that worrisome. But I guess that's why they're just not

600
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: that great.

601
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Speaker 1: Yeah, leelad, you what do you think of the Mavericks performance?

602
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: Specifically last night? Not shooting well from three point distance

603
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: nine to forty six. You'll see that often the sub

604
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: twenty from distance. You're not gonna win many games like that.

605
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: And then Tim Hardaway Junior even had one. They're pretty good.

606
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: Look at the end off the pump, Vick I think

607
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: had Durant flying by him, but he couldn't knock it

608
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: down either. Are you is there a concern here with

609
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks? Should they? Are they going to be

610
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: a team that's going to be active in the next

611
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, you know, looking for a little chicup

612
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: or another guy to get into this roster to help

613
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: their chances to bounce back because they're under a five

614
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Speaker 1: hundred now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but I don't really. I've never been convinced that

616
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 7: are all that good a team, especially offensively, and I

617
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 7: think you saw it in the fourth quarter. The big

618
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Speaker 7: difference last night was the Nets plan was go to

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Speaker 7: Kevin Durant, and what did Kevin Durant do? He knocked

620
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Speaker 7: in shots win five for six in that fourth quarter,

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Speaker 7: and then Paddy Mills helped him out as well, hitting

622
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Speaker 7: eight points in that fourth quarter, whereas the Mavericks seemed

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Speaker 7: to me just like, if you've got the ball and

624
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 7: you want to shoot, go for a guys, who really cares.

625
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 7: We're not running anything out here. And then Luca came

626
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Speaker 7: in and he did get a couple of baskets himself,

627
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Speaker 7: but they looked like a lot of work. He had

628
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Speaker 7: to sort of get into the lane. And that's the

629
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 7: big problem I think here with the MAVs is they

630
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 7: just don't seem to have much outside of let Luca

631
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Speaker 7: do whatever he wants to do on the offensive end,

632
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 7: which is fine, he's a great defensive player. But it's

633
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 7: just doesn't there's nothing behind that. There's no plan B,

634
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 7: it seems to me. So they ran out of gas,

635
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 7: they ran out of legs, and of course that's also

636
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Speaker 7: I think a reflection of Luca that he seemed to

637
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 7: look gassed in that fourth quarter. And as Test pointing out,

638
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 7: it's a big talking point this season, but he's never

639
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 7: really been a guy who's been in super great shape either.

640
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 7: He's kind of carried that a little bit of that

641
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 7: sort of it's a bit like Nikola Jokic. You don't

642
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 7: look at him and go, wow, this guy's looked like

643
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 7: he's been pumping iron in the gym. Those guys just

644
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 7: never look like that. So they sort of get their

645
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Speaker 7: conditioning out throughout the season. But when you're losing and

646
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Speaker 7: when you can't close out games, especially in the fourth quarter,

647
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Speaker 7: and your team who did have a good start is

648
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 7: now starting to drop off, it becomes more of a

649
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 7: focal point. So I just I don't think Jason Kid's

650
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 7: a great coach. Pauzingis was okay in the first half

651
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 7: last night, didn't do much, certainly not in the fourth

652
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Speaker 7: quarter when they needed him to see.

653
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Speaker 1: That happens a lot with Porzingis. Yeah, don't go to

654
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: the ball bro just like really like these moments like

655
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: and I think it's the MAVs too, and him as

656
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: well as him, Like they put him in motion. They

657
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: have a moving he's active, he's closer to the realm

658
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the time in the first half. This

659
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: was a perfect example last night. Go check his shot

660
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: chart for the second half. He's not inside at all

661
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: and he's a lot more standing around. Again, I don't

662
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: know if it's him. I don't know if it's like

663
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: the MAVs get a little too Iso happy in the

664
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Speaker 1: second half. You know, the defense obviously changes, you have

665
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Speaker 1: to adjust, but he does that a lot in games.

666
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Speaker 1: He has like these like oh wow, great first half

667
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: and then rarely you can put two together. But yeah, Trey,

668
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Speaker 1: what would you think of the Mavericks here at this

669
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Speaker 1: point of the season. Well, I think they need to

670
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: make some serious changes here. They need to get better players,

671
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Speaker 1: it's the main thing.

672
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Speaker 5: And they need to get guys who can actually shoot threes,

673
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Speaker 5: because what they have right now is Luka Doncic and

674
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Speaker 5: whatever he can do. Last night, he really struggled in

675
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Speaker 5: the second half. Ten points on two of nine shooting.

676
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Speaker 5: That's not gonna get it done. And then they have

677
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Speaker 5: three point shooting, which you have to make him otherwise

678
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Speaker 5: you're not getting anything from a Reggie Bullock who's had

679
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 5: a terrible season so far. Tim Hardaway Junior could not

680
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Speaker 5: make it three last night, nine of forty six. And

681
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Speaker 5: if you don't have another plan, like what are you

682
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Speaker 5: gonna do?

683
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Speaker 6: Right?

684
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Speaker 5: Like, no, it should be Porzingis cut into the hoop.

685
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Speaker 5: I agree. He had a chance at an and one,

686
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 5: finished with a softy lamp missed it went to the

687
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Speaker 5: free throw line. That's a point right there, you just

688
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 5: left on the board. I also thought Jason Kidd was

689
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 5: pretty bad. In the last minute of this game, Nick

690
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: Claxton goes to the line, missus two free throws. Mavericks

691
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: get the rebound, and he calls a timeout with twenty

692
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 5: seconds left. It's the Mavericks last time out. They get

693
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 5: that weird shot for Luca, a play they could have

694
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Speaker 5: gotten just by bringing the ball up the court. They

695
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 5: did get the offensive rebound, which is good because they

696
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 5: had three big men out there, Dwight Powell, Maxi Kleba

697
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Speaker 5: and Porzingis.

698
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Speaker 6: Now.

699
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Speaker 5: I know Reggie Bullock is not shooting the ball well,

700
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 5: but when you're down by three, you should put out

701
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Speaker 5: your three point shooters. They should be guards. I mean,

702
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 5: maybe one big guy would be fine. They got the

703
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: offensive rebound which is nice, and they had a chance,

704
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 5: like Tasa say, and there was a shot opportunity for

705
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 5: Luka Doncic basically right after the reset. But it would

706
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Speaker 5: also been nice to be able to call a time

707
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Speaker 5: out there and run an actual play and get some

708
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Speaker 5: sort of an attempt, obviously without the timeout that they

709
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 5: used previously that wasn't there, So I thought that that

710
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 5: was pretty poor stuff by Kidd. And on the flip side,

711
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Speaker 5: I liked what Steve Nash did in fourth quarter. Played

712
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Speaker 5: James Harden, Kevin Durant, Patty Mills, James Johnson, and Nicholas

713
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 5: Claxton basically all twelve minutes of the fourth quarter. I

714
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Speaker 5: guess Bruce Brown did come in for the last twenty

715
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 5: seconds a situational sub there, but he said, Claxton, you're

716
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 5: giving us a lot more than Aldridge has given us.

717
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 5: And I think that Claxton and Johnson, their length, their

718
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 5: activity and their athleticism really made it tough for Porzingis

719
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 5: to do anything inside. They were just kind of pushing

720
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Speaker 5: them out of the way and being the bigger, tougher

721
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 5: team down there. So yeah, the Nets put it together

722
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter of this one. Pretty impressive stuff.

723
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Speaker 5: Especially considering like Durant was on fire, so the Mavericks

724
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 5: had to double team, and when he double teams, it's

725
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Speaker 5: just getting dished to James Harden, who now has a

726
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: crack to be able to attack the hoop. It was

727
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: working nice for Brooklyn. They haven't lost consecutive games yet

728
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 5: this season. That's pretty impressive. So, yeah, a weird season

729
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Speaker 5: for the Nets. Doesn't feel like they're playing incredibly well,

730
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 5: but they're doing well, unlike the Mavericks, who were winning

731
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Speaker 5: some games early on and it didn't look good and

732
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Speaker 5: now it definitely doesn't look good.

733
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Speaker 1: I popped into MAVs Moneyball this morning just to see

734
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Speaker 1: what the Mavericks fans were saying there tests and I

735
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: saw this line, we are toiling away in sweaty mediocrity

736
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Speaker 1: with a generational superstar.

737
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Speaker 3: On our roster.

738
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sort of fallen apart there with the Dallas Mavericks.

739
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's not great when your best high volume

740
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: three point shooter is Dorian Finney Smith. Like he's good,

741
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: that's fine, but he should not be the best because

742
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: you got Luca who is not shooting the three ball

743
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: great this year thirty two percent KP's even worse, he's

744
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Speaker 1: sub thirty. And then your two sharpshooters, Tim Hardaway Junior

745
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Speaker 1: and Bullock, like Trey said, they're thirty four percent and

746
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Speaker 1: twenty six percent from deep, respectively. That's not going to

747
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Speaker 1: cut it. I think kids said a couple times now tasks.

748
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Speaker 1: You know, we're like, we're a three point shooting team

749
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: or a jump shooting team that can't hit three pointers

750
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 1: jump shots right now, and that's an issue. So like

751
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: do you just sort of stay the course and go, well,

752
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: these are gonna start dropping. You know, our looks aren't

753
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: that bad. We're you know, we're getting open shots already.

754
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: Have to be like, oh, maybe our team is just

755
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: this and we need to make some pretty drastic changes here.

756
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the template seems like it should work, right. Those

757
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: guys should just hit shots at the expected value of

758
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: those shots. I saw former MAVs employee Bob Bulgaris throw

759
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: out the stat that the expected number of these looks,

760
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: which are open looks, which are guys who have historically

761
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: hit him in all these dudes, should be a lot

762
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: higher than all these percentages that they're hitting, you know,

763
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Speaker 2: like three out of ten should be a hell of

764
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: a lot higher. So idea, do you stay the course?

765
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what their team is. It's it's a

766
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: good question. I don't have an answer, but I think

767
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: they will shake it up here, Like is it is

768
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: it the Luca the Luca aspect where he's unable to

769
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: really close out games? Or is it because he has

770
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: to do freakin everything and they're relying on him to

771
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: do everything and that's just taxing on him when they

772
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 2: could just use a little bit of help.

773
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Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know.

774
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: Or is it Tim Hardaway not being featured enough for

775
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: porzingis not being featured enough, or guys just not hitting

776
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: shots yet. That's a that's a tough question. I don't

777
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: have an answer, zero zero answer.

778
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: Or and Dragics just come into the Dallas metver He'll

779
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: eventually get there. I mean, you can lock that in.

780
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: Then he'll be on the Netvericks roster in the next

781
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: couple of weeks or at least a couple of months. Okay,

782
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: let's keep moving here. Then Lakers handled the Celtics one

783
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: seventeen one oh two. They split the rivalry for the season.

784
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: That was in the headline trey at Lakers Celtic rivalry.

785
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: They both. What are they tied right now? Is seventeen

786
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: championships apiece? I have that right, Yeah they are so yeah. Anyway,

787
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: takeaways from the Lakers victory there last night, TK.

788
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Speaker 5: Well, you've started to hear some talk recently about Frank

789
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: Vogel possibly being on the hot seat. Kind of par

790
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 5: for the course for a Lebron James team. I don't

791
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 5: totally buy it, but after last night, he's got to

792
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 5: be a little worried because Laker legend Magic Johnson sent

793
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 5: out a tweet that was all the basketball advice that

794
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 5: the Lakers needed. Magic tweeted, Lakers are going to turn

795
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: their season around. There are three things they must do

796
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 5: on defense. First, they must play better individual defense. Second,

797
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 5: play better team defense, and third transition, they must improve

798
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 5: their transition defense.

799
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: That's the weirdest part of that tweet. Why didn't you

800
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: just say in third transition? Why get you some grammarly magic?

801
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: Anyways defense you guys ever heard of?

802
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: It? Turns out Magic was totally right about this one.

803
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 5: Pretty slow first half outside of Lebron and Jason Tatum

804
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 5: had twenty one including fourteen I think in the first

805
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 5: four minutes of the game. Lebron had eighteen. In the

806
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 5: first half, Robert Williams was dunking everything in sight. It

807
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 5: looked like he might be the dominant interior presence in

808
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 5: this game because ad snoozed through the first twenty four

809
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 5: minutes of this game. But in the third quarter, Lakers

810
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 5: locked in and looked maybe the best they have this

811
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 5: entire season. Anthony Davis really made his presence felt on

812
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 5: both ends. I thought on offense, he was making it

813
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 5: a point to live in the lane, be aggressive at

814
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 5: the rim, and on defense he was the Anthony Davis

815
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 5: that had an idiot like me picking him to win

816
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 5: Defensive Player of the Year, flying around and just owning

817
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 5: the paint. The Lakers held the Celtics to twenty points

818
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 5: on thirty one percent shooting in the third quarter, and

819
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 5: their defense really keyed their offense. They kept getting stops

820
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 5: which let them get out into transition, which is where

821
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 5: Russell Westbrook really made his presence felt. Fifteen to the

822
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 5: third for Russ added three assists. He was assertive, he

823
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 5: was in control, and most important to me, he looked

824
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 5: good when Lebron was on the court, and he looked

825
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 5: good when Lebron was off the court. Frank Vogel said

826
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 5: that winning the third quarter has been a goal for

827
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 5: the Lakers. They ended plus eleven in the quarter, stretched

828
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 5: it out to twenty early in the fourth before the

829
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: Celtics made a little run in garbage time. Lakers get

830
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 5: the w probably their best win of the season. Improved

831
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 5: their individual defense, their team defense, and their transition defense.

832
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 5: Magic knows how to beat the Celtics. The key now

833
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 5: is honestly stringing a few of these wins together. Games

834
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 5: like this. You see it, You're like, yeah, I'm not

835
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: crossing the Lakers off my title championship because when lebron

836
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 5: ad and Westbrook play well, they could still easily win

837
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 5: the championship this year. But they've got Memphis, they've got Okac,

838
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 5: and they've got Orlando their next three games. They can

839
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 5: lose any of those games, right, Like, that's the thing

840
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 5: with the Lakers. They'll have a nice win and then

841
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 5: they'll slack against one of these bad teams. But a

842
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: win last night against the Celtics that was encouraging if

843
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 5: you're a Lakers fan.

844
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Westbrook's turning it around here. Tass shouldn't really be

845
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: a surprise because it happens every year. It feels like

846
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 1: with Russ, slow starts and then he starts finding his groove.

847
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: He's averaging twenty three and a half points, nine assists,

848
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: seven boards over the last eight games. So Lakers, and

849
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: like Trey said, he sort of took over in the

850
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: third quarter there, just like drive after drive and just

851
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: be in that aggressive Russ and shots are dropping. So yeah,

852
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: anything to add to that game.

853
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're at this point of the season. Russ turns

854
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: it on.

855
00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: Everything looks good and yeah, the third quarter, especially is either.

856
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: You love it or you hate it.

857
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: As a Lakers fan, it has been horrendous for most

858
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: of the year, but now they've turned it around in

859
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: that third quarter. They used to be a terrible third

860
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: quarter team, and that's the sign of a championship team, right.

861
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 2: We point to the Warriors, the best third quarter team

862
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: in the league when they lay the hammer down, and

863
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: now the Lakers are doing the same thing. They wear

864
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: their weakest now it feels like that's when they really want.

865
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 3: To put their foot down.

866
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think this is exactly the point of

867
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: the season where the Lakers will decide to turn it on.

868
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 2: And I think Lebron has realized and the whole team,

869
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis as well, who's been kind of middling a

870
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: little bit, and Russ turning it on now that they

871
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: have to get better. At this point, they can't just

872
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: be a play in tournament type team. That's kind of

873
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: where they've been middling. But now there are six then

874
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: only upwards from here. It sure feels like and yeah,

875
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: I totally agree with Trades. Is exactly why you don't

876
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: face this team in the playoffs. And they should be

877
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: still talked about even though thirteen and twelve, even though

878
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: they've been lousy defensively, even though they're top heavy, even

879
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: though they're old, they should be in that conversation for

880
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: a championship team.

881
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: Lee, I got a question for you. Dennis Shruder struggled

882
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: last night for the Celtics, going to score ten points.

883
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: He didn't play in the fourth quarter, if I remember correctly,

884
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: he was booed regularly in the first half by Lakers fans. Now,

885
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: I guess the reason being, you know, he turned down

886
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: an eighty four million, four year deal, like an offer

887
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: from the Lakers, right he wanted to test the market

888
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: last summer. Instead he had to settle for like a

889
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: six million dollar deal, one year deal, that went to Boston.

890
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: How do you feel about them booing him doing that?

891
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 6: Though?

892
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 7: I'm just curious, very very weird. It doesn't make a

893
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 7: lot of sense because he didn't insult the franchise, certainly,

894
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 7: not that I saw. He bet on himself and he lost,

895
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 7: So he's the only one who really should be upset

896
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 7: with himself, if you know what, Like, Okay, the Lakers.

897
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: Lakers fans though, are so delude, and they're like, you

898
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: should have played for us for a week.

899
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, he I mean, he didn't.

900
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 7: I don't think he did anything to should have upset

901
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 7: the fans. That's the weird part of it, you know. Yeah,

902
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 7: I guess. I guess they're saying, oh, you're too good

903
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 7: for us, and look what happened to you sort of thing.

904
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: But he's actually embraced that.

905
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 7: He's kind of said, yep, I screwed up, you know,

906
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 7: rather than set a point out. But I think this

907
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 7: victory comes down to the fact that if you ever, guys,

908
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 7: ever played pick up ball and all of a sudden

909
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 7: a pretty girl turns up and everyone starts like hustling

910
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 7: and rebounding and boxing out and contributing, you saw what

911
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 7: happened last night, Jennifer Lopez. There was court site, so

912
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 7: everyone's like, all right, all right, all right, let's play

913
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 7: our best here, guys, let's play our best.

914
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: Happened?

915
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 3: I thought they were playing for Ben Affleck.

916
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, interesting science.

917
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, final game actually with you know here, I've never

918
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: impressed the girl with the box out.

919
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 7: Well you just hustle more, Yeah, just try Yeah, yeah,

920
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 7: that's the whole problem.

921
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 5: Come on, Yeah, that's what's impressed the women. Come on,

922
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 5: you know this boxing out.

923
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: He's boxing out and he's looking over like that.

924
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 7: What happens if you're a bad shooter and you don't

925
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 7: want to throw up an ample in front of her?

926
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 7: So you want to be that guy. Oh, that guy's

927
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 7: working hard. Look at him, he's hustling. I bet he

928
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 7: looks like high energy guy.

929
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 5: Hi got glog guy, g guy.

930
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: High energy on the court, high energy in the bed. Right, Okay,

931
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: final game, let's slip it in here.

932
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 5: R J. Barrett.

933
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: He hit seven threes as the Knicks beat the Spurs

934
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: to snap a three game skid. Of course, the Knicks one,

935
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: I took the Spurs last night, but Lee just I

936
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: didn't actually the coins the coin to flip the coin

937
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: picked the Spurs last night.

938
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 7: Boy just clearly the next have to somehow figure out

939
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 7: maybe they should go to Tampa to play their home

940
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 7: games like the Raptors did last season, because outside of

941
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 7: Madison Square Garden they just looked like a completely different

942
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 7: team last night. Now Nolan's Nowell came in for Mitchell Robinson. Now,

943
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 7: in the last couple of games, the Knicks has been

944
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 7: hurt by like a floor spreading big man like Avucevich

945
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 7: or like Jokis. That's not really the case when you

946
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 7: go up against Yakapertle there in San Antonio, so you

947
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 7: can afford to make a move like that, But it

948
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 7: really were. Mitchell Robinson was very effective in this game.

949
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 7: J Barrett hit his first five three He's finished seven

950
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 7: for eight from the game, and Julius Randall just looked

951
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 7: like that All star he was last season, that most

952
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 7: improved player, confident get to his spots, hit shots, played

953
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 7: with an aggressive tone, but also just the freeiness so looseless,

954
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 7: a looseness that they just don't get playing in that

955
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 7: crowd in Madison Square Garden because the expectations are so high.

956
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 7: I mean, I know I've referred to references earlier in

957
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 7: the season. Scientifically, I haven't got any proof, but when

958
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 7: I watched game, the eye test tells me there's just

959
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 7: such a release valve when they're not in Madison Square

960
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 7: Garden and they just play better. Now the Spurs are

961
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 7: on the second night of a back to back. They

962
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 7: didn't shoot well themselves last night, and the next seem

963
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 7: to just catch fire. But honestly, it's incredible how different

964
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 7: this team just looks outside of the garden versus when

965
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 7: they're at home. They just seem tight. They seem like

966
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 7: anytime they miss a shot, they fall behind two or

967
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 7: three baskets, like it's such an effort to get themselves

968
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 7: back into the game. Last night, second first half was

969
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 7: somewhat sort of tightish, but then they really did spread

970
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 7: it out in that second half and in the end

971
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 7: a very comfortable road victory here for the Knicks.

972
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tas, what did you think of TIBs switching up

973
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: the center position there. I'm just interested to hear your

974
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: thoughts because Lee said it. Marylan's Noelle gets the start.

975
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: Mitchell Rumson had started all twenty games that he played

976
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: in this year, but he comes off the bench and

977
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: has a great game eleven fourteen to two steals, three

978
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: blocks in twenty two minutes. He threw that up. TIBs

979
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: have said they're interchangeable, but does Mitchell Rumson maybe just

980
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: work better as a sort of an energy guy coming

981
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: off the plane.

982
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: Well, it worked in this one for sure. I think

983
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: Tibb's playing his hand perfectly. He is just showing that

984
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: sometimes you just got to call guys out. He did

985
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: that with Mitchell Robinson. It worked perfectly. Now I think

986
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: if you put him in the starting lineup, I think

987
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: he'll be fine. But yeah, Mitchell Robinson was in a

988
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: great mood. Even when Drew Eubanks spurs backup center, took

989
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: him down and he looked injured. Mitchell Robinson got up

990
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: and said, you know, that's cool man. He must have

991
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: been in a great mood because that is just the

992
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: perfect recipe for a fight. But Mitchell Robinson was just

993
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: cool with it. I think, yeah, TIBs is just playing

994
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 2: his hand perfectly. It worked for one game. I don't

995
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: know how long it works for forever because I think

996
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: the way he called out RJ. Barrett also worked perfectly.

997
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: He basically said you got to get in the gym Sun.

998
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't get more emphatic than a coach saying, hey,

999
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: you used to shoot in practice. You used to shoot

1000
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: three point jumpers after the last game, is what he

1001
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: said about RJ.

1002
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 3: Barrett.

1003
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: Just go practice and then he has his career high

1004
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: in three pointers just like that. I mean, he's playing

1005
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: it perfectly and so well.

1006
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: Didn't Fred Katz say the reason was like RJ. Barrett

1007
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: had like a stomach bug and had the shits and stuff.

1008
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: Like, Yeah, that's the looseness. He was Jeff Daniels and

1009
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 5: dumb and dumber, blowing his guts out on the toilet.

1010
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 5: W went out and was Dreno on the court as well.

1011
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 5: I mean seven threes. If you get that from r

1012
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 5: J Barrett, that's huge. And he did a great job.

1013
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: I thought of playing off of Julius Randall. You know,

1014
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 5: Julius Randall was getting doubled a lot. He was doing

1015
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 5: a good job of being a good teammate, getting rid

1016
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 5: of the ball. That got RJ. Barrett open threes. That

1017
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 5: also got him open driving lanes which he took advantage of.

1018
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, a really nice win for the.

1019
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: Next Are you saying that RJ. Barrett has had a

1020
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: stomach bug for twenty two games for.

1021
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 3: Barely no two weeks.

1022
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, since sort of tips has gotten on,

1023
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're right. I'm not saying I'm not denying

1024
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: what tib said. You're right, But I mean, maybe it

1025
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that, TIBs. Maybe the guy just like couldn't stay

1026
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: off the camp he couldn't get in the gym because

1027
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: he was sitting on the can point stomach. That is

1028
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: a long stomach bug. Yeah, I mean drink, drink some

1029
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: like Saile ginger ale or something. Yeah, have some crackers.

1030
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 2: Let's make some knicks diapers. We're making Portland shiitters, Portland

1031
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: trail shitters. Whatever we're making.

1032
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: Let's what are they?

1033
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nika bucks.

1034
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 7: I mean they have.

1035
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: Like our bockers underwear. Knickers are under.

1036
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 7: Nick buck is a like the big old old fashioned underwing.

1037
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I got it, so we uh we make it.

1038
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: Could be adult diapers and when someone poops himselves like

1039
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: a little trigger goes big bong, so everybody around you

1040
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: for some reason, not that you just dumped in your diaper.

1041
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would ever want that. Okay,

1042
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: perfect time to take a break when we come back

1043
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: at the beach to answer a few of your questions.

1044
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: I like this here from Julio, Me and Julio down

1045
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: in the stream yard. Julio says, this is the only

1046
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: podcast where I don't skip past the ads. There it is.

1047
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: We love to see and hear it. Thank you, Julio. Yeah, Leo,

1048
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: because it just came up at the Christmas dinner that

1049
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: you were going to be gone in Canada for a

1050
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and we were like, it's not in

1051
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: the calendar. Everybody else was putting their travel plans. Yeah,

1052
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: and you were like, yeah, it is. You're like, it's

1053
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: in the calendar. Well it was in the slacks. Yeah,

1054
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: we have a calendar you can put the dates. And

1055
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: then you were like, it is in the calendar. I'm like,

1056
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing it. And then yeah, we got to

1057
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: the bottom of the calendar that you were using.

1058
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 7: A listen that's on my calendar on the fridge at home.

1059
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 7: If that helps, I'm like, you know, let me just.

1060
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: Take a photo and put it in slack. That'll be

1061
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: easy for us. All right, let's hit the beach answer

1062
00:48:49,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: a few of your questions. Holy moly, we're already about

1063
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: now we're into this podcast. We're just hitting the beach

1064
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: having some fun here on a Wednesday, aren't we all right?

1065
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: First one, it's from Derek in Minneapolis. Here's a good question.

1066
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: Which player gets their first career Big Beef game this

1067
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: year twenty rebounds or more? It says here, if Skeets

1068
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: picks Tim Hardaway Junior, you need to bench Skeets for

1069
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: a few pots only. Say Tim Harley Junior is gonna

1070
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: get fifty points one of these days. Twenty rebounds. Probably

1071
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: not my Homer pick, writes Derek. From someone who hates

1072
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: Homer picks is Jared Vanderbilt. Okay, he's a Wolves fan here,

1073
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: turn up, love you guys awesome Again. That's from Derek,

1074
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: So first career Big Beef this season, tasks what's your prediction?

1075
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: Oh, Derek with the V eight called Jared Vanderbilt, that's

1076
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: his nickname. I I love it. I am a Jared

1077
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt fan. Although twenty boards for a guy playing small

1078
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: forward ish power forwardish, he could do it. He's a

1079
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: hustle guy, but yeah, I would. It be a bit

1080
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: of a struggle. He's going to get lots of minutes there,

1081
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: good pick, But somebody who's already been mentioned today, Jakub Perdle.

1082
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he's gonna squeeze one out. He never

1083
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: plays around a three point line, never goes close to it.

1084
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: He's averaging a career high nine and a half boards

1085
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: per game. It's nearly averaging a double double. Give him

1086
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: a little respect. He's a pretty decent player. I was

1087
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: playing big minutes. I don't think anyone's going to take

1088
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: his minutes. I mentioned Drew Ubanks, Jock Londale, all these

1089
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: white guys. Not they're not taking his minutes.

1090
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: So I think.

1091
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: I think Pop likes to play Perdle a lot, and

1092
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: he's got a board if he's going to play for Pop,

1093
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: and that's why he's averaging a career high nine and

1094
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: a half board. So I believe in Yak. He's an

1095
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 2: underrated center. He really really plays hard, and you don't

1096
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: want to go to the rim against Yaku Pearl even

1097
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: though you don't think of him as an as a

1098
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: really athletic guy. It's like Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez

1099
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: are courts eye every single game for Yak of Pearls games.

1100
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: That guy plays hard forty eight minutes a game, So crazy,

1101
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: it's true.

1102
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: He is good. I'm I'm actually furious with Pearlol last

1103
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: night because I had him on a crazy parlay for

1104
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: over twenty one and a half rebounds and points, and

1105
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: what did he naturally end with twenty one combined.

1106
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: Points and rebounds.

1107
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: It's the only one that didn't hit. Otherwise we were

1108
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: looking at having the fresh socks for life guys. But

1109
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: come on, oh, I didn't really hurt because there was

1110
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: a possession where he got the rebound. You had like

1111
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: a little bunny inside and you missed it. If he

1112
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: scores there, I hit the over. But that's a good one.

1113
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: I actually went through the rebound leaders to try and

1114
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: figure out the answer to this question. I like, you

1115
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: know you're pick there with Peurdols, though, task there are

1116
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: sixteen guys right now who average over nine point nine

1117
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: rebounds per game. Okay, all of them except one have

1118
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: at least one big beef in their career. That's the

1119
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: tough part of this. I see people in the stream

1120
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: team suggesting names guys they already have big beefs to

1121
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: their name. A couple of them you're suggesting, but one

1122
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: that doesn't nine point nine rebounds per game. Magic big

1123
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: man Wendell Carter, So that's my pick. I'll go with him.

1124
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: He grabs seventeen in a game once this season or

1125
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: excuse me, that's his career high. He did it for

1126
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: the Bulls. He's got like a fifteen board game this year.

1127
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: He did that in like pretty limited time too, so

1128
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: I think he could get to to twenty maybe in

1129
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: a he just gets a lot of minutes because of

1130
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: an injury to some backup, or maybe an overtime period

1131
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: or something like that. Give me Wendell Carter Trey for

1132
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: his first big beef ever.

1133
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 5: Is he still wearing goggles?

1134
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: I believe he is.

1135
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think that helps rebounding all. I don't know why,

1136
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 5: but you know there's not a lot of guards out

1137
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 5: there that are wearing goggles. That's usually the big guys.

1138
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm in on that one. I also think

1139
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 5: a wizard is going to beef at some point. I

1140
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 5: don't know if it's going to be Kyle Kuzma or

1141
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 5: Montrez Harrell. They're both averaging career high rebounds this year.

1142
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 5: They both have had their career high game. I think

1143
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 5: eighteen for Harold was his career high. Seventeen for Kuzma.

1144
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 5: That was a surprise. But yeah, Wes Unseld Junior as

1145
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 5: the coach. Now his dad was Unselled Senior, a rebounding legend,

1146
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 5: a wizard's legend. It will be an honorific beef.

1147
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: Lee. You got anyone else to add to this, what's

1148
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: your prediction first big beef for their career?

1149
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 7: Vucci hasn't beef for the Bulls. He had nineteen earlier

1150
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 7: this season, so.

1151
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: He has a beef to his knee.

1152
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess, I guess he does. Yeah, but he

1153
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 7: hasn't beef from his new team, So I'm just gonna

1154
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 7: take that.

1155
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: Don't worry about the question.

1156
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 4: It was a bit of a.

1157
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 7: Weird question anyway, because because when he threw in the

1158
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 7: team Hadaway, So I'm like, does he just mean then

1159
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 7: Korea High Game? Is that what he meant? But you know,

1160
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 7: because obviously Tim Hadaway is not going to beef, So anyway.

1161
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's he's joking that I would pick him hard.

1162
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's.

1163
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: All right.

1164
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: So okay, just for the record here, I want to

1165
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: I want to track this. I got Wendell Carter sounds

1166
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: like task taking Perl Trey. Your your official pick.

1167
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 5: Is going give me a mantres Harrell okay official pick.

1168
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Lee is going vouch for his new team

1169
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: even though he's already done it before.

1170
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Yeah, this was a weird one because I

1171
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 2: too was going through guys' game logs going back. Yeah,

1172
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 2: that's what beef Mitchell Robinson. Yeah, he's been in the league.

1173
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: You know, this is year four for him. He had

1174
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: a big beef in year number one and not since.

1175
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: Had to go deep in the game logs for mister Mitchell.

1176
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: But it's great to have a Mitchell in the league.

1177
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: You don't we don't have a first name Mitchell in

1178
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: the league. We got a Donovan Mitchell. It doesn't count.

1179
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: But Mitchell's just a nice name to have in the league.

1180
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: And I do agree about the goggles comment with Trey.

1181
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: I was, I don't know what game I was watching yesterday,

1182
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: but I saw there's a big man on the Spurs

1183
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: bench maybe and he was squinting looking at something court side. Like,

1184
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: if you're a basketball player, why are you ever squinting?

1185
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: Shouldn't you get your eyes checked? You know, like get

1186
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: that I should have perfect eyes. Yeah, yeah, okay, cool.

1187
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: Next question, Mary Dink Miss I'll get right to it.

1188
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: This morning, in my research communication class, my professor had

1189
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: a ton, we're talking hundreds of his own basketball cards

1190
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: laid out on the tables for an activity about statistics.

1191
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you what we were supposed to be doing,

1192
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: because naturally I was searching fervently for an Otis Thorpe card.

1193
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: Another way back, playback to when we used to open cards.

1194
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you know it? This guy won?

1195
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 3: He found four Otis Thorpe cards, and instantly my day

1196
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: was made. When's a time when two of your worlds

1197
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: collided at an unlikely time? Love you boys? Love you too, Jack?

1198
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: I miss everyone all right?

1199
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 2: So Lee, when's the time too, when two of your

1200
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: worlds collided at an unlikely time?

1201
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1202
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 7: Well, first off, though, Otis Thorpe cards are like wedgies.

1203
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 7: They do come in bunches. I've often seen when we've

1204
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 7: opened a pack, we get one, notus, you get another Otis.

1205
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 7: So that sort of checks out there. But for me,

1206
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 7: the answer is actually the twenty seventeen Finals Warrior Cavs,

1207
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 7: of course, and I was out there, and you know,

1208
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 7: Trey and I used to go and you'd get to

1209
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 7: interview from players from time to time, but I was

1210
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 7: always interested in who else was there. And one year

1211
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 7: Thierry Onree, the former Arsenal striker, was there and I

1212
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 7: used to be a big fan of Thiery when I

1213
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 7: lived in London. He was great and I got a

1214
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 7: chance to interview him and I was very excited and

1215
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 7: look at that there is me and Thierry. I've even

1216
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 7: put it on a backdrop there.

1217
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 5: Wow.

1218
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, So you know I've said this as well before.

1219
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 7: Like you know, people talk about Ronaldo Messi is the

1220
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 7: two greatest strikers of the sort of last twenty years.

1221
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 7: Here's up there, man. He was unbelievable as a player.

1222
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 7: The manager of Arsenal at the time, Assvinger, picked him

1223
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 7: up off the scrap heap at Juventus for ten million

1224
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 7: pounds a snip. He turned out to be here. He's

1225
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 7: got a statue now outside the Emirates Stadium there. I

1226
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 7: went and saw that actually when I was in London.

1227
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 7: But yeah, to interview Tierry on Ree for me was

1228
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 7: just incredible, possible fan and it was an awesome, awesome experience.

1229
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: Okay, good answer, trade you got one?

1230
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, mine is actually from yesterday finished recording No Breaks

1231
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 5: with Graydon Gordian went to check my email and the

1232
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 5: first email I saw was from master Class, not an AD.

1233
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 5: Meet your new instructor, Lewis Hamilton. Lewis Hamilton is a

1234
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 5: master Class instructor teaching the winning mindset. Now this is

1235
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 5: not an AD because they are currently not a sponsor.

1236
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 5: But I'm still gonna watch this guaranteed, but only if

1237
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 5: Lewis Hamilton wins on Sunday, because I assume if he

1238
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 5: comes in second, they'll just delete it off the planet. Sorry, sorry,

1239
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 5: I mean seven is good, but it's not eight so well.

1240
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm excited to see what Lewis says about it,

1241
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 5: and I'm excited to put his driving tips to the

1242
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 5: test here in atlant.

1243
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: Well, that's the unfortunate part. Shouldn't it be Lewis Hamilton

1244
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: teaching you how to like parallel park or something like

1245
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: I'd be yeah, exactly, I mean winning mindset. Okay, I

1246
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: mean you can apply that to a lot more in

1247
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: your life, but I like the specific stuff like, Hey,

1248
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: that guy's best driver in the world, teach me how

1249
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: to drive? Okay, cool task, you have an answer. I

1250
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: mean my answer is pretty simple. It's like anytime I've

1251
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: ever run into a Survivor contestant at a basketball arena.

1252
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: Wendell Holland we saw here at the State Farm Arena

1253
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: down at the Fortress, I think, and well, I guess

1254
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: I never saw it real coal in person. But he's

1255
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: a big he's a big basketball fans. Anytime there's that

1256
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: crossover between Survivor and basketball fandom, I love it. But

1257
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: what about you.

1258
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: Task, Well, mine is F one related as well. Every Monday,

1259
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: I make some NBA picks on a an athletic podcast.

1260
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: It's called Best on the Board. They make NFL picks.

1261
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: I jump on with Michael Beller to make some NBA

1262
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: picks for that night. And after I recorded on Monday,

1263
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: Michael Beller hit me up and said, we have a

1264
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: mutual friend.

1265
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: Great and Gordian. Oh wow, who was on our F

1266
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: one podcast No Breaks. They went to school together, grad

1267
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: school Northwestern. They roomy together for at least a semester.

1268
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 3: So here's a tie in. There's a two worlds collide

1269
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: in Great and Gordian. Michael Beller said he's a great guy,

1270
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: and I said, of course he is.

1271
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: Of course great and Gordian is, and of course he's

1272
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: a mutual friend because grating Guardian knows everybody.

1273
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: That's true.

1274
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 3: He probably knows tierran Ree.

1275
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 4: Probably does.

1276
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: Between between Great and Gardian and Larry Luke, they know

1277
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: everyone that has ever walked on this earth.

1278
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 3: They know a lot of people great. Actually, Actually, can

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Speaker 3: I get JD?

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Speaker 2: Can I get that picture of Tyryonree because I'm collecting

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Speaker 2: photos for our Top seventy five guests photos or videos,

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Speaker 2: and I think I mentioned to Lee, hey, give me

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Speaker 2: that Tierryonree one, because yeah, I don't know where that

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Speaker 2: clip is put it.

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Speaker 3: He probably put in the calendar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's there. It's on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: I'll find it. I'll find it in that calendar. What's

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00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: that calendar called my old friends?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, just the calendar of times people?

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Speaker 1: All right, we got I.

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Speaker 7: Think Lewis Hamilton was at that final series. Actually, try

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01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 7: wasn't he? I think creepy sort of selfie with him,

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Speaker 7: didn't you?

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Speaker 5: Sort of like I wish I took a dumb picture

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01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 5: with neymar If I would have known the years later,

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Speaker 5: I actually liked Lewis Hamilton. I woant have taken a

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Speaker 5: picture with him, but you had to fill me in

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Speaker 5: on it. Afterwards. Who's that guy wearing the orange jacket?

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Speaker 5: He looks famous? Aways?

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Speaker 1: All right, final one here, good day, No dunkers. I'm

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Speaker 1: thirty six years old and ripped some lips for the

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Speaker 1: first time this summer, and I caught a fish. I've

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01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: become quite proud of this very generic accomplishment. What's something

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01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: you accomplished much later than others but you're still proud

1305
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: of Thanks for the many years of laughs. I found

1306
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: you on the grant Land podcast with your Friday episodes

1307
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: years back, and I've been enjoying the classics ever since.

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Speaker 1: That's from Wes in Utah. Wes mangum mangum man gum.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's man gum less in Utah. Great question.

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Speaker 1: Something you've accomplished much later than others, but you're still

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Speaker 1: proud of, Trey. What do you got for me?

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Speaker 5: It's liking Olives. Took until I was thirty six years

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01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 5: old for me to realize that I liked Olives. My

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty one New Year's resolution was to tell people

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Speaker 5: that I liked Olives cause to me it kind of

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01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 5: came as a surprise. Man, I just thought I hated

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Speaker 5: him forever. And then one day, I was like, wait, second, buddy,

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Speaker 5: you love a toponod spread on a muffletta, you use

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Speaker 5: olive oil all the time when you're cooking, you don't

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Speaker 5: mind olives on pizza. Do you actually like olives? It

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 5: turns out I do. So I've been letting people know

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Speaker 5: for the entire year, and I just wanted to tell

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Speaker 5: you guys, because I don't know if I never clarified it.

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01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm an olives guy now. So the key

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Speaker 5: to me, Laura always said you gotta have seven. You

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Speaker 5: gotta have seven, and then you don't like olives. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: what that sounds complete made up to me, But I

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Speaker 5: think she's right that you have to have multiple because

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Speaker 5: the first one salt bomb, second one, though, your tongue

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Speaker 5: is ready. Your tongue is ready for that delicious olive brine,

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Speaker 5: and then you're living the life. Then you can get

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Speaker 5: up to seven if you're feeling crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lee, I can't remember you and we no taskla olives.

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Speaker 1: Do you like olives?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say I love them, but yeah, when they're

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01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 7: a little starter, they going around the table before the

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Speaker 7: main meals come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm dipping your main dish.

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Speaker 7: No, Just the thing is because I think I think

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Speaker 7: I think they are very, very salty the whole time.

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Speaker 7: So that's why, so do I Yeah, four or five

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Speaker 7: and I'm done.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 7: But yeah, I'm definitely dipping in for one or two

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Speaker 7: for sure.

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Speaker 1: All Right, great, good to enough. Maybe some might have

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Speaker 1: some olives and some of your stock just loose olives.

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Speaker 1: It's like Clementine's or just task. Do you have an

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01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: answer for this one?

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Speaker 3: I'm cooking now. It's not current.

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01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: I haven't learned how to cook yet, but I'm I'm

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01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: speaking about the future. One day, I'm going to learn

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01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: how to cook, and then I'm going to be really

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01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: proud that it happened in my forties.

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Speaker 3: Fifties. I don't know. Yeah, I haven't learned it yet,

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01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna be super proud. Okay, it's not happening now.

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Speaker 2: I cook olives. I do cook olives. As Kevin said,

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01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: I cooked me some olives. No, yeah, I like olives.

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Speaker 5: If they're cold or if they're warm, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 5: to me because I like olives.

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Speaker 1: Now I can't stop talking about.

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Speaker 6: Lee.

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Speaker 1: What do you go for this one?

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Speaker 7: Well, I was forty five when I discovered a thing

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Speaker 7: called Snooba diving, which was halfway between scuba diving and

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01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 7: SNORKI and I did it as soon a day after

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01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 7: I found out it existed. I did it and it

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01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 7: was awesome, and I did it with my eight year

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Speaker 7: old son at the time, and it was a great experience.

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Speaker 7: I've always been I've snorkeled a lot, but I've always

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Speaker 7: been a little hesitant to scuba. This is a perfect

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Speaker 7: in between. You go down under the water for a

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Speaker 7: long time, but you're not super far down, so really,

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Speaker 7: really fun experience.

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Speaker 1: Man, I didn't know you well played. Are you going

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Speaker 1: to be doing it again?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I don't know when or where, but yes, I absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Just put it in the calendar when you're whatever, well,

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Speaker 1: Snooba diving.

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Speaker 7: Your buddy, our buddy Grish, my buddy Brish, I should

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01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 7: call him.

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Speaker 1: That's his official my buddy, but it is buddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: He went like on a shipwreck sort of thing down

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Speaker 7: in Aruba, which looked pretty exciting. So that's somewhere on

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01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 7: the horizon at some point I want to get down

1389
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 7: there check that out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got snuba and Aruba.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember though, what are my Buddy Grish's opinions

1392
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Speaker 1: on snooba diving because he's a big scuba diver. Does he, like,

1393
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, put his giant nose up to.

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01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 6: Su well?

1395
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: What does he think of it?

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 7: I can't remember well, like like most people, when I

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01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 7: when I put it on the ground, he thought it

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01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 7: was just a spelling mistake. I put Snooper instead of scuba. Yeah,

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01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 7: he said, I love a good Snooper with a little

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01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 7: laugh emoji, and I was like, but it's a real thing,

1401
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 7: and then we talked about it.

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01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: I think he's into it because yeah, he's.

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Speaker 7: Scubaed a lot, and I think it's a little a

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01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 7: nice way to break in with his kids. I don't

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01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 7: think his kids have been scubaing with him as far

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01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 7: as over falls.

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01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 3: So, scuber, did you crounce or did you stell that?

1408
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 4: Raugh?

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01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: Actually checking right now? If Gramily picks up on Snoober.

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Speaker 5: You letting it go? Do you plan on working your

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01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 5: way up to a fall scuba?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 7: I do. I do now that I've had the experience,

1414
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 7: because you have to learn how to sort of clear

1415
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 7: your nasal passage and also pop your ears, and once

1416
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 7: you do that, it's gross when you you see what's

1417
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 7: in your mouth and your face there, but you feel

1418
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 7: a little bit more comfortable with the just the breathing

1419
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 7: and stuff. So yes, I definitely want to go for

1420
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Speaker 7: a scuba at some point.

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Speaker 1: Who's your favorite actor?

1422
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 3: Really?

1423
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: I see people in the stream team asking.

1424
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 7: My favorite actor?

1425
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it Snoopa Gooding Jule?

1426
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 5: What's your what's your favorite brass instrument? Snoobumper Rasse.

1427
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 7: My kids love watching Snoopy Doo.

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01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah it is fire the gun here. Okay, great stuff, guys,

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: keeping questions coming No Dunk's at the Athletic dot Com.

1430
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: Tweet them in at No Dunk Think you can leave

1431
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: them in the YouTube comments below any of our videos

1432
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: if you'd like to do that as well. We'll be

1433
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: hitting the beach periodically here, maybe the rest of the

1434
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: week and of course into next week and the rest

1435
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: of the season, so always send in those NBA and

1436
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: non NBA questions. We're gonna take our final break when

1437
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: we come back. Janie's got tweeted the night. Well, we

1438
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: gotta pick them results and we'll make our new picks.

1439
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. Hey, Lee, do you know what they

1440
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: call American giant in Canada? American Giant, Like, why wouldn't

1441
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: they call it the same thing.

1442
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 7: That you was setting up for something it's coming. I

1443
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 7: know there's a second punch company.

1444
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: So it's called American Giant also Canada.

1445
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 3: By the way, you got to go to American Dash Giant. Okay,

1446
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 3: why don't they buy this other one?

1447
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'd like it, American Giant dot com. No

1448
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: Dash is available for a strategic transaction. They're waiting for you,

1449
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: American Dash Giant, go buy.

1450
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: Them all right, let's get to tweeted the night.

1451
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 3: M tweet out the night. Wow, what a yeah?

1452
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 8: So we just have a simple st today. What's a

1453
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 8: SOT you may ask for the stream team and the

1454
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 8: pod squad? Why it stands for a sound on tape?

1455
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 8: A clip if you will. Our old friend and colleague

1456
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 8: Rob Lopez tweeted a clip of our old friends and

1457
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 8: colleagues Charles Barkley and Ernie Johnson talking about the inspiration

1458
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 8: for Chuck's daughter's name.

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01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 6: Well, she's named after a mall in fairness. That's a

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01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 6: Christiana ball in Delaware that I used to always go by.

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 6: That's how she got her name, Christiana. Oh stop, wait,

1462
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 6: what is it you named your daughter after a mall. Yeah, why,

1463
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just like the ma allll, you're

1464
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 6: a mess man.

1465
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 8: I mean, who cares if he named it named his

1466
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 8: daughter after the all. It's a nice Chris is a Christiana, right, Like, Yeah,

1467
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 8: it's a nice name.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it.

1469
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, I like it.

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 8: I mean it's it's hard to name a human. I mean,

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Speaker 8: we four of us have done it twice. I know

1472
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 8: that when we were naming our first son, Rachel was pregnant,

1473
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 8: and it's generally assumed that my son Lincoln was named

1474
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 8: after the sixteenth president of the United States with chef Cory. Sure, yes,

1475
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 8: sort of, but the reality is she was pregnant. We

1476
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 8: were sitting watching an old show called prison Break, where,

1477
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 8: of course the smoldering Dominic Purcell plays a character named

1478
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 8: Lincoln Burrows, and we just looked at.

1479
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 4: Each other and we were like, hey, what do you

1480
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 4: think of Lincoln? Love it?

1481
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 3: That's it.

1482
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 8: So we knew we were having a boy. And that's

1483
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 8: how you name people. It can actually be that simple.

1484
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 8: So Ernie, relax, man.

1485
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: That's that's like the ten millionths craziest thing Charles Barkley

1486
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: has ever said. Too.

1487
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean if he named his daughter York

1488
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 7: Dial or something like that, then you're like, yeah, that's yeah. Christiana,

1489
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 7: I'm sure is a very common name or variations of

1490
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 7: it anyway, you know Christina.

1491
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,839
Speaker 1: So, just like Chuck is so, that guy is so honest.

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Speaker 1: It's like he doesn't have to tell that to anybody,

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01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's like you said,

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01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful name. No one would really ever know

1495
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: it's named, of course, after this mall in Delaware. Instead,

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: he's like, no, I'll just I'll just let you know.

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01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean, how old is she at this point too,

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01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: Like twenties at least, I would say at least. Yeah.

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01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know there any good malls here

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: in Atlanta that you could Lenox. Lenox is a good name.

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01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, D's dog formerly known as Lennox. Did you name

1502
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 2: it after the mall that you were moving to years later?

1503
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: It all depends on the mall, like j or like

1504
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: Les said, yeah, like you know Yorkdale in Toronto, Okay, sure?

1505
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 3: Way? Square one eaten eaten, questionable name.

1506
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: It's also a baseball bad, isn't it.

1507
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 7: It's also cheating. It's also what cheating? Cheating cheating.

1508
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's saying. What do you saying?

1509
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm missing?

1510
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 5: What as.

1511
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 7: Eating is cheating? When you're on a big day of drinking,

1512
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 7: you're not allowed to eat.

1513
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: I've never heard that. That's why I'm very bad. Is

1514
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: anybody else heard this?

1515
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 4: I have heard this.

1516
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 1: Okay. I don't think jumping in so that's why I'm confused.

1517
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 3: Okay, I kind of do it though.

1518
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: I don't eat when i'm when I'm drinking, so oh,

1519
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:50,919
Speaker 2: big mistake.

1520
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.

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01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 7: Actually I don't like it at all. I hate drinking

1522
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 7: on an empty stomach.

1523
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 6: So there you go.

1524
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: We use a cool start on this little exchange from

1525
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 1: all of it. Yeah, cool story, Okay, great, great tweet

1526
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: of the night, Great s O T great sort.

1527
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 5: You're just giving away all the secrets JD showing off

1528
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 5: the classic factory, telling all the people what a SOT is.

1529
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 5: This is like a masterclass of your own doing.

1530
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 7: I'm angry, mosty class.

1531
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be very happy when it's all working.

1532
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 7: Right, are you sure?

1533
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 4: Are you sure I'll be happy? I won't be I'll never.

1534
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: Be actually all right, Well, I can see each id

1535
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 1: things are going great. It sucks I've got nothing you

1536
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: can find about what's going on here. Some truth to

1537
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 1: that results from last week you by Bett MGM talking

1538
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: about being angry. It's another loss for me because I

1539
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: had the spurs. So did Trey. That's his first l

1540
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: for the month of December. And Lee as well. Lee,

1541
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: what happened to you? You're like me here, you're one

1542
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: and four. Task got the only victory there. He took

1543
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: the Knicks to cover on the road. They got the victory.

1544
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: So Task is three and two, goes Trey four and one,

1545
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: Task three and two, and then me and Lee at.

1546
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 5: One in four.

1547
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: There are thirteen games on tonight Task twenty six teams

1548
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: are playing. So what's our game for the pick um here?

1549
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,480
Speaker 2: I thought a difficult one was Utah going into Minnesota

1550
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: favored by eight and a half points. Timberwolves just have

1551
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: to lose by eight or less. But you know, Trey

1552
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: feeling the jazz there and the rest of us feeling

1553
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: the Wolves, which I found it real tough. There are

1554
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 2: a lot of injuries in this one. Backcourt for the

1555
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: Wolves questionable, Patrick Beverly and d Angel Russell, and so

1556
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: is Karl Anthony Count's after playing last game, after returning

1557
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: from the old butt injury, the tailbone injury. This eight

1558
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 2: and a half feels like a lot, But Trey think

1559
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: they got this down.

1560
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a big chunk of cheese. But the Jazz

1561
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 5: are playing pretty good ball. They've won four straight. They've

1562
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 5: got some decent rest. You know, they played Friday, Sunday

1563
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 5: and Wednesday, and perhaps they'll have a little bit of

1564
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 5: an advantage here with Towns being a little bit hobbled.

1565
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 5: That is a big line though, so we shall see.

1566
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wellves having lost three straight, the rest of.

1567
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 2: Us feel like they can keep it close at least,

1568
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll see. Rudy is playing amazingly, amazingly for

1569
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz.

1570
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: All right, So that's one of the many games on tonight.

1571
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 1: Like I said, Jazz Wolves, we will be back tomorrow

1572
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: morning to break down as many as we possibly can

1573
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: and all of the big NBA news which goes down

1574
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: in the next twenty four hours. So join us live

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01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: at ten am Eastern on YouTube. Subscribe to notues on

1576
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1577
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1578
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: we approach our way to fifty thousand, So man, what

1579
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Speaker 1: a Christmas gift that would be for your No dunks boys.

1580
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: Fifty k subs on YouTube. Try and help us out

1581
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1582
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,920
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1583
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1585
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Speaker 1: com slash no dunks before we go, Lelea, I know

1586
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: it's a long podcast, but can you give me a

1587
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: one minute recap of the ashes? You were freaking out

1588
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: on Twitter with these clips here? You know who's doing

1589
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 1: well early on?

1590
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 7: Well, Australia has done very well the first day of

1591
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 7: potentially five and England will bowled out for one hundred

1592
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 7: and forty seven, which is a very very bad return

1593
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 7: at the Gabba. We're in Brisbane. You always want to

1594
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 7: bat first. England got to bat, they won the toss,

1595
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 7: they went to bat, they lost the wicket with the

1596
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 7: very first ball, so that was the.

1597
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: Clip you were sharing there.

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01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, crazy, and then they steadied somewhat to at least

1599
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 7: make one hundred and forty seven. I mean when you

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,919
Speaker 7: consider you one for none after one delivery.

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 5: One hundred and.

1602
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 7: Forty is okay. But Australia is in a very strong

1603
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 7: position after day one. But rain, because in cricket you

1604
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 7: can make up the time, but there's a sort of

1605
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 7: limit that if you don't, you don't play extended days.

1606
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 7: So if it rains and rains and rains, England could

1607
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 7: get away with this without actually losing the match.

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01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: So may you serious? Like if it just rain for

1609
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: the next ten weeks you're saying, or I guess even the.

1610
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 7: Next four days, Yeah, it wouldn't. It could only maybe

1611
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 7: rain for like two or three days and wash out

1612
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 7: two or three days, and then there just wouldn't be

1613
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 7: enough time for Australia to win the game outright.

1614
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: So that's weird.

1615
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just.

1616
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 7: Ask Hansy Kroner about you know what to do this?

1617
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: You're telling me Hunsy Crumb, Yeah, you.

1618
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 7: Said, yeah, yeah, he was the one who crafted a

1619
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 7: result out of nothing after four days of rain, but

1620
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 7: turned out to be he had he had someone in

1621
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 7: his pocket, old Hartsy there.

1622
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, what mother nature?

1623
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 7: He had a bookie in his pocket?

1624
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 6: Nah?

1625
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they Jimmie Skirt mcdert I've heard it all.

1626
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, they didn't the bookies. The bookies just wanted a result.

1627
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 7: They didn't want like a you know, no result of

1628
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 7: a Test match. So Harnssey got creative and got a

1629
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 7: result and the bookies won. But then it all came

1630
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 7: crumbling down.

1631
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: This is a story for a different podcast. It's Netflix.

1632
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 7: It's called there's a whole series onlike Cheetahs and things

1633
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 7: that have gone wrong in sport. I can't remember s good.

1634
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 7: I saw the Hansey Kronier Bad Sport, that's what it is. Great, thanks, Yeah,

1635
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 7: the one on Handsey Hansey was an incredible inspirational figure

1636
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 7: in South Africa, but he was on the take.

1637
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I still don't really understand the story and

1638
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: what that had to do with the weather.

1639
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 7: But well, because the game, the match was washed out

1640
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 7: I think for the first four days. Yeah, so they

1641
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 7: only had one day left or maybe it was the

1642
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 7: three days. I think they played one day and then

1643
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 7: the three days washed out and so they needed a result.

1644
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 7: So Harnsey had to create a result out of nothing, which.

1645
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: Was basically impre a result.

1646
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 7: Okay, here we get so in cricket. In cricket, right,

1647
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 7: you have to defeat your opponent. Right, It's not like

1648
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 7: if you scored more runs than they did at the

1649
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 7: end of the five days that you automatically win. You

1650
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 7: have to score more runs and then you have to

1651
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 7: actually like defeat your opponent. You have to you have

1652
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 7: to get all their batters out in the second innings

1653
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 7: to win, right, because if they survive and make less

1654
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 7: runs than you, then it's a no result, it's a draw. Right,

1655
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 7: So you have to either defeat your opponent outright now,

1656
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 7: when there was so much rain, they weren't able to

1657
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 7: get the both innings and you get two innings per

1658
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 7: team in a five day Test match. So what they

1659
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 7: did was they basically said, let's just declare, which means

1660
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 7: let's just throw an innings away. Have it so that

1661
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 7: the final innings here England were chasing a certain score

1662
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 7: they had to get that, they had to get that result,

1663
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 7: They had to achieve that amount of runs before what

1664
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 7: the South Africans bowled them out and England.

1665
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,799
Speaker 1: So what you're saying it was a classic Hansie scheme.

1666
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 7: H yeah, yeah.

1667
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: Cricket.

1668
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 7: Crickets very very weird. When you do try to describe

1669
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 7: to someone, it makes perfect sense to if you grow

1670
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 7: up with it. But it's not like you know, like

1671
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 7: I said, but there's no running out the clock in cricket.

1672
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 7: You've got to you've got to actually, you gotta.

1673
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 5: Get thee outs in the bottom of the ninth for

1674
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 5: the game to be over.

1675
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 7: Yes, that's right. Yeah, and if you hang on to

1676
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 7: those outs in baseball, let's just say that would be

1677
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 7: a draw. That's what it's like in cricket. So you

1678
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:37,839
Speaker 7: have to defeat your opponent.

1679
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: Podcast.

1680
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my fault.

1681
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: That one's on me. I take full responsibility that one.

1682
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 2: I guess they have rainouts in baseball to finish it up.

1683
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 2: Is that where the name the ashes came from. Where

1684
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 2: it was raining a lot and it just put out

1685
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 2: the cricket fire.

1686
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 5: Clipper bras you heard it here first, have a great time,

1687
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 5: turn up, Love you guys, awesome.

1688
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: Oh thanks for joining us. And remember I think Charles

1689
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: Barkley nailed it. He nailed it with the naming of

1690
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 2: his daughter Christiana, because it's a unique name. There isn't

1691
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 2: another Christiana out there. You would think Christina Christian that

1692
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 2: there would be a Christiana. No, if you google Christiana,

1693
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 2: there are two names that come up Christiana Barkley and Christiana.

1694
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: You guys know the mall mont No, well, no as

1695
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 2: a name, Christiana. It's a mall in Delaware. It's true Montoya.

1696
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: You guys don't know the eight year old actress Christiana Montoya.

1697
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 3: I guess you don't.

1698
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 2: But I always thought it was Christiana Milan because Christina

1699
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: Milian's got that extra eye in her last name.

1700
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 3: But I thought it was in her first name. But

1701
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 3: it's in her last name.

1702
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: So Christiana Montoya Christiana Barkley, And that's cool, that's great.

1703
01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 2: Christiana Montoya is American actress. She's in the Guilt. You

1704
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 2: guys watched the Guilty No no a place in the field.

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01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: No never a dangerous defense, and.

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01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 4: I saw it guilty. She must have been a voice actor.

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01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,839
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if it's animated.

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01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: Sure, he should have really just stopped. Barkley should have

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01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: stopped that. He shouldn't have named his daughter's middle name Maul.

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01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: That was his mistake, right. Embrace the day, people, you.

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01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 2: Could say every day.

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01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 8: And day, happy, every minute.

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01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: It's been so long that your mona way.

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 2: It happened already. It's kind of a grey