Speaker 1: Hello to Lilah, Hello, miss Katie Perry. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: because it is like a childhood dream come true. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have driven on the coast so many days, and
Speaker 1: or had my parents drive me on the coast so
Speaker 1: many days, listening to your choosing voice with me on
Speaker 1: the phone lines. Is the amazingly talented, incredibly successful, hundred
Speaker 1: bazillion fans following you on every uh social media platform
Speaker 1: and dang girl, did you look good riding tiger? Thank you?
Speaker 1: And also just a just a normal human being. That's
Speaker 1: what's most important. You know, you're the record folks, and
Speaker 1: everybody the producers sent me all this these facts about you.
Speaker 1: Know you're amazing success. But I love the fact that
Speaker 1: whenever I see you on any show or anything, you
Speaker 1: seem so down to earth and reel. Well. I put
Speaker 1: my pants on one leg at a time, just like
Speaker 1: everybody else. Um, I can't fly, and you know I
Speaker 1: won't make it out here alive. So I think all
Speaker 1: those reminders you know, level me every day. But I
Speaker 1: think I do have a gift and I love using
Speaker 1: it and I love sharing it, and I love making
Speaker 1: people happy. I think that makes me really happy to
Speaker 1: make other people happy, but um, I really feel very normal.
Speaker 1: And also I'm sometimes just completely surprised by all of this.
Speaker 1: Not surprised because I work really really hard, but just
Speaker 1: like super grateful. Right, Well, you do work very, very hard,
Speaker 1: and you've got a new album out and you're going
Speaker 1: on tour in September. I am. I have a tour
Speaker 1: that kicks off in the United States is September seven,
Speaker 1: and it goes all around the country. Check out. You
Speaker 1: can go to Katy Perry dot com to look for
Speaker 1: the tour dates. And it's going to be a really
Speaker 1: a super fun show. It's always an experience when you're
Speaker 1: coming to one of my shows. It's larger than life.
Speaker 1: It's not just one one look or one scene. It's
Speaker 1: going to be like, uh, you know some of my
Speaker 1: heroes like well Disney, just like bringing a whole difference
Speaker 1: to real world to an arena. So it's super fun.
Speaker 1: So the album is Witness and we're we started playing
Speaker 1: a song off of it a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Janey sent it to me and she said, de stir
Speaker 1: because I'm in a wonderful relationship with a wonderful man
Speaker 1: and we're married and I love him. Deeply. But before
Speaker 1: all that, I was in a situation let's just leave
Speaker 1: it at that. And she sent me the single save
Speaker 1: a draft. He's like, you got to listen to this song.
Speaker 1: And I listened to it and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: how many times did I do that? You write the words,
Speaker 1: you come up with the letter, what you're gonna say,
Speaker 1: how you're going to say it, so they finally understand
Speaker 1: how much you love them and it all works out.
Speaker 1: I know, And you know, I've been in that cycle
Speaker 1: before in a relationship and it had kind of re
Speaker 1: ignited the relationship. And um, there's only so many times
Speaker 1: you can reignite the relationship or want to or should
Speaker 1: and sometimes you just need to write it and never
Speaker 1: send it. It's just that exercise, you know, that cathartic exercise. Um,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't press send. It's like a lesson in self control,
Speaker 1: you know what. That's what best friends are for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do send it to your your best friend. For
Speaker 1: my producer, Janey has been my best friend for almost
Speaker 1: thirty years and she knows me through and through. And
Speaker 1: I mean that when I say that, because she was
Speaker 1: the birth and coach for my two bio babies. Um,
Speaker 1: but we have a packed, we have a life packed.
Speaker 1: You do not hit send until you send it to
Speaker 1: your best friend exactly. I mean, I like, I like, um,
Speaker 1: drafting and then sleeping on it because you know, for me,
Speaker 1: my emotions get very heightened in the evening. I don't
Speaker 1: know everybody else, it's just like one of those things.
Speaker 1: And then in the morning when I wake up, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I didn't send that. I can get
Speaker 1: you know, I can get through another day without this situation,
Speaker 1: and in nighttime comes around and that's why my show
Speaker 1: is so successful. Yeah. Well, I mean, by the way,
Speaker 1: I've been listening to you my whole life, um, and
Speaker 1: your voice is it's so soothing and I think everybody
Speaker 1: feels really safe listening to you. Um. It's uh. Many
Speaker 1: a coast drives from Los Angeles to Santa Barbara have
Speaker 1: been had just listening to you speak. So you're kind
Speaker 1: of like a bit of a meditation. So thank you
Speaker 1: so much for everything you do and how calm you
Speaker 1: keep us all. Thank you. But you know what it's
Speaker 1: true about our emotions. They are heightened at night. That's
Speaker 1: when addictions kick in. That's when your destructive habits kick in.
Speaker 1: That's when that's when asthma people who are asthmatics. I
Speaker 1: have a daughter who's severe asthmatic. That's when you're asthma
Speaker 1: reactions kick in is late at night. And so that
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons that God has me here
Speaker 1: at night, because that's when the monsters crawl out from
Speaker 1: under the bed and you you hit sinned. Yeah, I know. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad for you. So seriously, part of part of
Speaker 1: your mission is I'm guessing, especially from the lyrics of
Speaker 1: the new songs on your new album, is to help
Speaker 1: people realize how empowered they are and how blessed they are.
Speaker 1: And I'm reading the lyrics and I'm just devouring them,
Speaker 1: and I have to ask you this. The lyrics of
Speaker 1: a couple of your new songs, UM talks about how
Speaker 1: you've had to fight for the right to be true
Speaker 1: to who you are, yes authenticity. So I was going
Speaker 1: to ask who who? And I don't I'm not asking
Speaker 1: you to tattle tale or name names, but what situations
Speaker 1: for young women, especially who are listening. I have seven daughters, UM,
Speaker 1: what situations have you been in where you now can
Speaker 1: look back and go, thank god I was true to myself.
Speaker 1: Thank God I didn't let them control me or steal
Speaker 1: me or make me into something else. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's really prevalent in all the social media
Speaker 1: interactions these days. I think, um, you know, uh, it's
Speaker 1: it seems small, but I think it's a big exercise
Speaker 1: to kind of step away from your phone and from
Speaker 1: your Instagram and from posting or like, you know, I
Speaker 1: think we're all in this cycle of trying to like
Speaker 1: take a picture of everything and then doctor it up
Speaker 1: or make our lives look so fabulous or keep you know,
Speaker 1: keep up with these appearances or you know, keeping up
Speaker 1: with the Joneses or whatever, and it's not real, and
Speaker 1: it's making everyone so really, um lonely and disconnected. And
Speaker 1: they think they're being connected because they're getting the like
Speaker 1: so they're getting the comments. But um, I just encourage
Speaker 1: people to set their phone down and actually, you know,
Speaker 1: have real community with their friends, or try and go
Speaker 1: on a hike and leave their phone in the car,
Speaker 1: or um you know, socialized but not socialized on the internet.
Speaker 1: Because I think that we're getting really caught up in
Speaker 1: um creating this alternate reality that we could never keep
Speaker 1: up with this idea of perfection. Um. And I think
Speaker 1: it's making young people, especially young girls, feel more insecure
Speaker 1: than ever. Um and uh. I think I did this
Speaker 1: experiment where I went four days um live streaming on
Speaker 1: YouTube and I showed everything. I showed, UM all this
Speaker 1: it all of the dark circles, the good, the bad,
Speaker 1: the ugly. You know, people think pop stars or like
Speaker 1: people in Hollywood are perfect. They're really not. They're really
Speaker 1: just normal. And I don't. I don't want to be perfect,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to show that kind of thing off.
Speaker 1: And UM, I think there's really really real beauty in
Speaker 1: the imperfection. And um, I want to encourage that imperfectious
Speaker 1: that okaynus with imperfection in young people. I think that
Speaker 1: social media is kind of a real dark place. An
Speaker 1: even though like you know, I have a hundred million
Speaker 1: people on the winter following me, which is hilarious, I
Speaker 1: say that, but it's I go on there and and
Speaker 1: I just it's like a lot of people that are
Speaker 1: arguing and not really talking with each other. They're talking
Speaker 1: at each other, and like you go on, you make
Speaker 1: a statement and or you like argue with the person
Speaker 1: that you know, like, would you say those things to
Speaker 1: those people when you meet them? Would you say them
Speaker 1: to their face? You know, we live in this unaccountable
Speaker 1: phase online which is really really strange. So, um, I
Speaker 1: just I like I encourage community more. Um Like, I'm
Speaker 1: doing a real interactive um thing with the Boys and
Speaker 1: Girls Club of America all over America during my tour
Speaker 1: where um my fans get the opportunity to instead of
Speaker 1: buying a ticket, they can earn the ticket through volunteering
Speaker 1: or doing a good deed through the Boys and Girls
Speaker 1: Called of America Because I think the kids there are
Speaker 1: the future they are and you know, if those kids
Speaker 1: that young can um learn the right thing the right
Speaker 1: ways and have better tools, than we're gonna have a
Speaker 1: better future. But if everyone just logs onto Instagram, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm out, even even though like I posed, But you know,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Boys and Girls Club
Speaker 1: just a little bit more because not only can they
Speaker 1: earn their ticket, but a dollar of every ticket sold
Speaker 1: for your for your Witness tour goes to the Boys
Speaker 1: and Girls clubs locally. Right, absolutely, Yeah, that's wonderful, thank you. No,
Speaker 1: I mean here's the thing is like it's over a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years old and it's tried and true. UM,
Speaker 1: I think people forget that there's a boys and girls
Speaker 1: club around the corner from basically every one, and UM
Speaker 1: that they can get involved there. You know, they don't
Speaker 1: have to start a new organization. And if they do,
Speaker 1: that's great too. But UM, a lot of people, I
Speaker 1: think right now, they're like, well, we've done the donate thing.
Speaker 1: How can I really give my time? How can I
Speaker 1: really give my energy? How can I actually have a
Speaker 1: real interaction with a person? You know, how can I
Speaker 1: touch a heart and UM learn and gives you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to just click. I don't want to
Speaker 1: just click a button on the internet anymore. I really
Speaker 1: want to go out there and do it myself. My
Speaker 1: whole mission right now for me is like I do
Speaker 1: have that feeling of like wanting to change the world.
Speaker 1: And I know I have a lot of spotlight UM
Speaker 1: and advantage and privilege and et cetera. But like, if
Speaker 1: I can't even change myself, how can I change the world?
Speaker 1: Or if I can't even affect you know, the people
Speaker 1: I work with, UM on a day to day basis,
Speaker 1: how can I change the world, or like even living
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, I'm like, oh, I want to change
Speaker 1: the world, or I want to go to you know,
Speaker 1: crazy places in the world and affect it. But like,
Speaker 1: the homeless rate in Los Angeles is crazier than ever.
Speaker 1: If you turn one wrong corner downtown, it looks like
Speaker 1: a refugee camp and you're and I'm thinking to myself, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, maybe I just need to help in my
Speaker 1: own neighborhood, in my own community. The Boys and Girls
Speaker 1: Club is such a great way to do that because,
Speaker 1: like you said, they're tried and true. They've been around forever,
Speaker 1: and the good they do transforms lives. If you can
Speaker 1: get a hold of a kid when they're eight or
Speaker 1: nine or ten and give them a sense of self
Speaker 1: worth and a sense of family, so they don't join
Speaker 1: the gang, they don't you know, start using, they don't
Speaker 1: start drinking and drugging at twelve or fifteen. They don't start,
Speaker 1: you know, disrespecting their bodies and using their bodies for whatever.
Speaker 1: Then you you you didn't just impact a child, You
Speaker 1: just saved a life. Yeah, I agree with you, And
Speaker 1: that's going to be what, you know, like my purposes
Speaker 1: on this next tour on the Witness the tour, UM,
Speaker 1: it's just to see people and to witness them and
Speaker 1: to hear their story and to connect with them, UM
Speaker 1: and help them and encourage them in any way possible
Speaker 1: I can um, whether it's just to be there physically
Speaker 1: or uh, just to hear them, to give them that
Speaker 1: moment um I don't know, just like you know, make
Speaker 1: them feel like they do exist, that they are special,
Speaker 1: they do have a purpose. Just overall encouragement. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to boys and Growth clubs all
Speaker 1: across America and um really learn kind of what the
Speaker 1: state of America is right now and really meet the
Speaker 1: people and really connect with them. That's my goal and
Speaker 1: my purpose for this next tour. The song that we're
Speaker 1: playing right now, um You is fun and wonderful and
Speaker 1: helpful when we're angst NG. But the song that touched
Speaker 1: me the deepest when I listened to the each song
Speaker 1: on the new album really is the title cut Witness.
Speaker 1: Oh Great. That says it all. That's to me. That's
Speaker 1: the whole philosophy of my faith and my life wrapped
Speaker 1: up in just a few words, so beautifully. So thank you.
Speaker 1: For that. We're all here just to be connected. That's
Speaker 1: what we want so badly, Like at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, we just want to be seen. We just
Speaker 1: want to connect. We want to feel loved and like
Speaker 1: feel like we exist. And you know, we do everything,
Speaker 1: like we work so hard, we like grind, we we
Speaker 1: try and make as much money as possible to be seen,
Speaker 1: to be connected, maybe even with one individual when we
Speaker 1: lay our head down at the pillow at night, we
Speaker 1: just want to like we want to connect to that person,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think it's as simple as that,
Speaker 1: Like human connection is what we're here for. I had
Speaker 1: a path st that gave a two part sermon probably
Speaker 1: thirty forty years ago. He doesn't even remember it because
Speaker 1: I brought it up to him a couple of times.
Speaker 1: His name is Mike McCorkle, and his message was in
Speaker 1: two parts. In the first part, he said when when
Speaker 1: I die, he says, I believe when I come face
Speaker 1: to face with my creator, He's going to ask me
Speaker 1: two questions. Number one, what did you do with me
Speaker 1: while you were alive? And number two, what did you
Speaker 1: do with every single person that I put in your
Speaker 1: path to connect with? And so the first weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: talk was about what did you do with me? Did
Speaker 1: you did you make room in your heart for me?
Speaker 1: Did you believe in me? And the second part was
Speaker 1: what did you do with every person that I put
Speaker 1: in your path? And he said, people aren't put in
Speaker 1: your path by accident. The person you're setting next to
Speaker 1: on the plane isn't there by accident. And as he
Speaker 1: went through this, I went that Katie, that changed me
Speaker 1: on a cellular level to realize that my whole purpose
Speaker 1: is to share love with the people that God places
Speaker 1: in my life. Absolutely all you can do is just
Speaker 1: be kind time and time again in every circumstance. Just
Speaker 1: be kind and well, like I said when I listened
Speaker 1: to Witness and then I read the lyrics that I went,
Speaker 1: she just she summed it up in like three and
Speaker 1: a half minutes. Beautifully, Thank you, beautifully, No, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, I think, no matter if you're
Speaker 1: Joe Schmo or Katy Perry, you just want to connect,
Speaker 1: you know, no matter if you have it all or
Speaker 1: if you don't have anything, you just want to connect. Well,
Speaker 1: you connect with my listeners and you know this, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's in such a huge world. Thank you. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys playing Savis draft um and UM. I know
Speaker 1: everyone can resonate with that because we've all been there.
Speaker 1: We've all wanted to send that tech or we have
Speaker 1: and then we realize, oh, now we have to deal
Speaker 1: with that or the email, you know, or the letter.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it's just good to sleep on it. The
Speaker 1: line in that song that I cracked up with is
Speaker 1: you don't usually mess around with with coins, but you've been,
Speaker 1: you know, tossing a few. How many times do I
Speaker 1: toss the coin? Okay, if it comes up heads, that
Speaker 1: means I'm supposed to call him. That's what that means. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no right right right, no, I know, HI know. Why
Speaker 1: don't you just listen? Why don't you just listen to
Speaker 1: the green, yellow red light in your heart? If we
Speaker 1: all listen to that more, we would be in a
Speaker 1: better place. Yeah we would. That's the original coin flipper.
Speaker 1: But we don't because we're knuckle heads. And when you love,
Speaker 1: the heart wants what the heart wants. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: I understand. Well, thank you for giving us so much
Speaker 1: of your time. Before you hang up, I have to
Speaker 1: tell you that, Um, Sheyla and Angel and Blessing and
Speaker 1: Clara and Eva and Zach and t K and all
Speaker 1: my kids adore you and they just those are that's
Speaker 1: all the names of your children. You're That's amazing. I
Speaker 1: love those names. I might, I might borrow a couple. Okay,
Speaker 1: here you go, you ready, Lanka, Isaiah, Eugene, Tanjanique, Teresa, Emmanuel, Demetrius, Trade, Jerome, Angel, Mercy, Bridget,
Speaker 1: Lucky Girls, Sheyla, Maria, Zachariah, Miguel, Thomas, Carlton, Blessing, Uh,
Speaker 1: Princess Clara, Belle, Delilah my name's sake. And now baby Paul,
Speaker 1: What does Delilah mean? You don't want to know. I
Speaker 1: do want to know. It means evil, seductress, Delila. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, what Catherine means pure? So remember the story
Speaker 1: of Samson and Delilah, how she told him you've cut
Speaker 1: his hair, cut his hair got a Lilah. I had
Speaker 1: to live up to that for a year. Two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've come a long way and you are rewriting your
Speaker 1: story obviously, aren't we all? Aren't we all? Thank thank God?
Speaker 1: God is a god of second chances and third chances
Speaker 1: and fifth chances. Otherwise I've been dead. I love waking
Speaker 1: up every morning remembering that that, like, no matter what
Speaker 1: happened yesterday, I can just start new today, Like I
Speaker 1: can make a decision, a choice to have more a
Speaker 1: better positive attitude, you know. I can let things go.
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't have to do things that I
Speaker 1: don't want to do, you know. Or I can make
Speaker 1: better choices starting right now. I love mornings because of that.
Speaker 1: Thank you Katie Perry for spending time with this, and
Speaker 1: thank you for being so passionate about music and about
Speaker 1: loving on kids and about keeping it real. Well, thank
Speaker 1: you the Lilac left you go down and let some
Speaker 1: more with you. Line Love