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Speaker 1: I listened to the black Guy You Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and character Heart.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackouts podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host. Rod joined us always on my cast, Karen,

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Speaker 2: and we are live on a Sunday afternoon, ready to

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Speaker 2: do some podcasting before we go see the Charlotte Hornets

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Speaker 2: play the Los Angeles Clippers.

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Speaker 3: Yay.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who I was playing, but I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: I get to see Paul George hopefully and Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 2: and James Harden and Russell Westbrook and they'll probably beat

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Speaker 2: us by forty. But of course it's it's the it's

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Speaker 2: the thought that counts. It is it is. And went

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Speaker 2: to go see them play the Worriors.

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, we're gonna get beat but at

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Speaker 4: least I get to see Steph.

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Speaker 2: Yep. The official weapon of the show is the Phaton

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Speaker 2: chair and the unofficial sport but it bother ball extreme extreme.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any banter? Yes? All right?

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Speaker 4: Ben to me, Yes, Initially I did not have no banto,

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Speaker 4: but then I thought about it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, girl, what happened last night?

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Speaker 5: You got you got some banta?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That was fine.

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Speaker 4: I was like, well, I guess we're gonna share the

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Speaker 4: same bendy because I was.

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Speaker 2: Like mercy man, I was almost got Native sun last night.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy. We uh So we went out to

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Speaker 2: grab some some some food last night and on the

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Speaker 2: way back, it was probably like ten o'clock or so.

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Speaker 2: On the way back, we were getting out the car

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Speaker 2: to going to the apartment and a lyft driver like

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Speaker 2: they this guy. He had an accent. I guess he's

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Speaker 2: like Southeast Asian. Maybe he pulled over and he just

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Speaker 2: went hello or whatever.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, hey, okay, yeah, of.

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Speaker 2: Course no one cares.

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Speaker 5: She stopped.

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Speaker 2: She's like hey, someone speaking to us. You know me,

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Speaker 2: I was ready to keep walking because I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know this guy. Is he lost or something or

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Speaker 2: you know, it's in the way he said hello. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't like he stopped and said anything more than it.

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Speaker 2: He was just like hello, and I was just like hello.

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Speaker 2: And looking back, I think he had been like kind

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Speaker 2: waiting for somebody to come by that looked a certain

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Speaker 2: stopped next to us, and you know, I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what does he need, like directions or something?

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Speaker 5: Right, That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And he's like, can you help helped me? And

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Speaker 2: we're like, what's going on? He's like, do you know

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Speaker 2: this woman in the back? She says she lived here?

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Speaker 2: And there was this white lady who was like slumped

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Speaker 2: in the back. And he was like, she said, she

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Speaker 2: lives in this building and point to the building that

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Speaker 2: she lives in, which wasn't our building. So I'm not

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Speaker 2: really familiar with her, not that I know all my neighbors.

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Speaker 2: I feel like people are less neighborly than ever at

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Speaker 2: this point, and so I know, like my immediate neighbors,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know, like if you live a couple

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Speaker 2: floors up or down, I don't know. So he's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, uh, so she lives in this building and

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Speaker 2: I'm a lyft driver and I need to, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of drop her off and get to my next thing.

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Speaker 2: Her friend put her in here and said get her home.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what apartment she's in, right, because

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Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't necessarily tell you the apartment of it.

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Speaker 5: Nover tells people the building, and I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what apartment she's in and I don't know

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Speaker 2: what what what, you know, how she's like and so

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm like, I'm thinking she's like maybe a

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Speaker 2: little wobbly drunk or something. And I'm like, okay, we'll

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Speaker 2: do We'll figure it out, you know, at this point,

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Speaker 2: because it's kind of like, you know, I had that

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Speaker 2: guess you're just gonna have to stay here and figure

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Speaker 2: it out. You know. I had that moment in my

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Speaker 2: I'd do if I find out somebody else was like

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Speaker 2: something happened to the woman, and it was like, damn,

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Speaker 2: we really we really would have like we could have

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Speaker 2: to get over my trepidation of because I'm not this

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Speaker 2: is the second fucking time we've had some drunk ass

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Speaker 2: white women show up dropped off in our vicinity and

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Speaker 2: been like, all right, And the first time it was

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Speaker 2: a white woman who was passed out based or just

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Speaker 2: very drunk, incoherent and knocking on our back patio didn't

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Speaker 2: do and we and she thought she did it. She thought, yeah,

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Speaker 2: she did it, for it wasn't hours, but she did

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Speaker 2: it long enough. She had been out there a long time. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and she thought it was someone else's house or something.

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Speaker 2: We had to call the police for all I know,

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Speaker 2: it could be the same white lady, like, yeah, that long.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what she looked like. But when I

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Speaker 2: say this woman was similarly incapacitated, I mean that, Like,

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Speaker 2: so we go to to uh, you know, try to

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Speaker 2: help her get out the back, see or I go

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Speaker 2: because Karen decided she ain't even touching and getting in

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Speaker 2: the sending of this white lady, which I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: a fucking man, you know I could use the help,

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Speaker 2: you know, like a woman helping her to me is

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Speaker 2: less threatening than a man trying to help her. But

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Speaker 2: you know, so she But the thing is, no matter

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Speaker 2: how drunk y'all think she is, she was drunker, yes,

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Speaker 2: or like at some point I thought maybe she's been

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Speaker 2: roofied or something. She was that out of it, like

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Speaker 2: she could not really sit up, and she kept saying

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Speaker 2: stuff like hello, huh hey, and I'm trying to ask her,

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Speaker 2: you know, questions like hey, what's your name? Do you

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Speaker 2: know what apartment you give? Do you think you can

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Speaker 2: stand up? Do you need my help standing up? She

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Speaker 2: had on one of those party dresses, y'all know the

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Speaker 2: kind I'm talking about. It's not it's not like a

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Speaker 2: body con dress that comes all the way down. It's

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Speaker 2: like a skirt kind of, but it's a body kind skirt, yeah,

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Speaker 2: something like she just you know, she's like white girl

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Speaker 2: when out club and type dress, you know. But it's

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Speaker 2: the thing also is it's only ten o'clock on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: and like you're this hammered. I don't know if to

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Speaker 2: day party, wedding, I don't know, but I mean she

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Speaker 2: was dressed like she had was going to the club

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Speaker 2: or something, and immediately because it took her a good

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Speaker 2: I'm not exaggerating four to five minutes to even get

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Speaker 2: see she was putting in herculean effort to steve. She

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Speaker 2: was like this is all the strength I got. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so and and you know, and I'm I offered my

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Speaker 2: arm to her to see if she wanted to be steady.

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Speaker 2: She couldn't even take it. And I couldn't tell her

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Speaker 2: she wouldn't take it or she couldn't take it once

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Speaker 2: again as a white lady. So I don't know. It

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Speaker 2: could be like a racial thing. It could be we

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Speaker 2: don't know her. I'm a man, you know. I was

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Speaker 2: hoping at this point Karen would volunteer because she's a woman,

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Speaker 2: and a woman helping a woman stand wouldn't be weird.

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Speaker 2: I don't want any level of inappropriateness or what leveled

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Speaker 2: at me for trying to help her stay in and shit,

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Speaker 2: because it's just it was one of those. But Karen

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Speaker 2: just stayed away. And so she manages to get to

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Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, okay, cool, Yes, she will help kind

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Speaker 2: of trail her to the apartment, will make sure she

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Speaker 2: gets in safe, and then we're just gonna go to

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Speaker 2: our apartment, like you know. But she got to like

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Speaker 2: the curve, the curve and fell. She got to the curve,

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Speaker 2: I thought oh shit, she don't hurt herself, because y'all

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Speaker 2: always she hit that curve.

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Speaker 5: She hit that curve like fucking bricks.

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Speaker 2: It was like, I was like, god damn, Like she

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Speaker 2: slammed into the car and fell onto the ground, and honestly,

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Speaker 2: y'all weren't there. I'm telling y'all, I can't imagine how

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Speaker 2: any person that will call themselves a friend would allow

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Speaker 2: her to be in that situation.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: It was not a oh you could you could have

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Speaker 2: maybe misunderstood how drunk she was. It wasn't one of

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Speaker 2: those It was like it is. It's the kind of

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Speaker 2: thing where if you're a friend and someone's that drunk,

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Speaker 2: you stay up and watch them.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And it's one of those things where when me

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Speaker 4: and Roger Geber, I was like, she didn't call this uber.

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Speaker 2: I was like somebody someone put her in the ober. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they did it, because when I tell y'all, she was

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Speaker 2: incapable of even communication, like forming words, agreed and so

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Speaker 2: at this point, and this little dress is like riding

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Speaker 2: up her like thong, her asses hanging out.

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Speaker 5: Yes it was.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to help her, but I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: and she's she's just like hey, hello, Hey, yea, and

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Speaker 2: then she'd just be blank faced for another couple of minutes. Hey.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm like, let me just go get her

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Speaker 2: a plank, a blanket. So I go into the house,

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Speaker 2: grab one of karen snuggies. Uh, don't worry in the

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Speaker 2: watching machine right now, guys, All right, I know what

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Speaker 2: you're thinking, but y'all, God want her to and like,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of lay it over her so that

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Speaker 2: it's not like swallowing swallowing her, but it is. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's cold, it's like sixty degrees and she got all

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Speaker 2: she got on this dress, right, and so I, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, lay that next on her, and then I

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Speaker 2: would sit down like a couple of feet away from her,

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Speaker 2: and Karen calls the police because it's just like, you know,

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Speaker 2: call just call the police. We hate to call the police.

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Speaker 2: But when I say, I could not understand what we

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Speaker 2: couldn't understand what building, what apartment.

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Speaker 4: She was, And I would not have felt safe because

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Speaker 4: when somebody's in that frame of mind, they might stop,

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Speaker 4: you're a stranger. They don't know if they're being like no,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna touch.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, do you have right? But she'll let she

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Speaker 2: but she's gonna leave me out there. But it's your friend, Joe.

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Speaker 2: This this your hero Joe. But so Karen's on the

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Speaker 2: phone with the police and I'm just like, hey, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna you're safe, You're gonna be okay. We're gonna make

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Speaker 2: sure you get in. Say everything's fine, you know, like

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Speaker 2: talking to her like that. Cars are driving by and shit,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, and I'm very concerned that these cars

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Speaker 2: drive by and see a black man sitting next to

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Speaker 2: some white lady. We're a fucking thong out. Yes, they

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Speaker 2: almost passed out on the ground and just start assuming

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Speaker 2: the wrong shit or thinking she's in danger, that we're

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Speaker 2: doing something nefarious, and I'm just like, fuck, man, police

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Speaker 4: That's why I called so if anything happened, I know

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Speaker 2: I would say, ma'am, are you are you? Like do

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Speaker 2: and then she'd be like hello, yes she yes.

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Speaker 2: And I said hello and she's like hey. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 4: That's that's how I was like, Oh she didn't call

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like if she sees us around here,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know that she will remember this. But

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell her straight up, like, Yo, you gotta

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Speaker 2: We're like, do you have a roommate, like someone we

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Speaker 2: y'all know I got white woman facial blindness. So I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I thought she had her shit together, I mean, looking

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Speaker 2: You could tell her head at the same time. One

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Speaker 2: am I in trouble?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what she kept asking him.

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Speaker 2: Yea, Like he asked her name and she did say

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Speaker 2: he like, but she's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He's like,

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Speaker 2: are you you know, like what you know, what's your

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Speaker 2: Do you know your name? She couldn't answer her name

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Speaker 2: But you know, he does help her. She only has

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Speaker 2: She had her shoes off, he was holding her stuff

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Speaker 5: I told her.

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Speaker 4: I said, we tried to cover up, but it wasn't

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Speaker 5: That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: She was like, I mean, he was like, is this

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Speaker 2: y'all's blanket? I said yes, and he said, okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: but it's been so long, Like I'm talking maybe college age.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's about that was close to, if not blackout

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Speaker 2: I think she was black out drunk. I don't think

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Speaker 2: she will remember any of that ship. That's how it

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Speaker 2: I'm like, ma'am, no, please put your ass away.

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Speaker 5: Okay, cover up, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: This is not Instagram came. They came one hundred conservative, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Put your clothes on, ma'am. This is I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not about to be no motherfucking native son about to

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Speaker 4: But like, ma'am, I'm gonna get the usher to cover

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, I was out there. I was

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Speaker 5: No means no, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pray with you. I'm gonna lay my hands

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Speaker 2: here in a distance. Yeah. But she I think she

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Speaker 2: I hope that the Complexion for protection was helping out

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Speaker 5: And it was like one of the things.

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Speaker 4: But you're literally at home, like we're not like in

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Speaker 2: I know, but you just never know what cops agree.

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Speaker 2: Like it's easy to say that shit and then the

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Speaker 2: And I was determined to not touch her without any permission,

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Speaker 2: catch her. So she fucking falling hurt herself trying to

431
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 2: get up. I don't know what the fuck we're gonna do,

432
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: because then we're gonna have to call an ambulance because

433
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 2: you know, I, like, I don't feel comfortable. Uh, this

434
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: woman can't even she's so unaware of her surroundings. I don't.

435
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I can, like you know, like

436
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: if it was if it was you, if it was

437
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: a okay, let me get your arm, I'm gonna I

438
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know you. I don't want no

439
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: problems you, Like I said, she wasn't really communicating with

440
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: her us and it was just crazy. So yeah, she

441
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 2: got in. Hopefully everything's safe. We haven't seen her today,

442
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: but she probably nursing the hangover. It's the hangovers, and

443
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: I just really hope nothing un toward happened to her

444
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: before we even saw her or whatever. That level of

445
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: out of it is just one of those things where

446
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, did somebody put some in your drink? Did

447
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: somebody did somebody do something to you? Didn't throw you

448
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 2: in this uber, this lyft drop, you know, to be like, well, hey,

449
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing to do with me. You know,

450
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 2: I don't want to be seeing as evidence to be

451
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: around this person because it's at best case scenario is

452
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: she has a horrible friend or people that did not

453
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: look out for her. And that's another issue with being

454
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: that young and that kind of scene. A lot of

455
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 2: those motherfuckers really ain't shit because they don't really know

456
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: that they ain't shit yet because that's normalized to them. Yes,

457
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 2: it is like they are like, yeah, I've been putting

458
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: it like we show up the next week and go, girl,

459
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: I don't know how I got home out. Hey, we

460
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 2: drank all them drinks and I I just remember waking

461
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: up at home. And it's like they think it's normal,

462
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: but I think you reach a certain agent like that's

463
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: not just not normal, it's dangerous and it's fucked up

464
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: and it's not safe, you know. And miss mart I

465
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: didn't want to videotape it because her throng was hanging out,

466
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 2: and it just didn't And all I could think was,

467
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 2: this shit is gonna look like either like I'm weirdly

468
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: like recording this woman who's fucking ass is hanging out

469
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 2: the whole time, and that looks suspicious, Like that shit

470
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 2: being on your phone is not content. You know, I'm

471
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 2: not gonna ever put it anywhere. It did not feel

472
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 2: like if she was just drunk and fully clothed and everything,

473
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: I might have been like, let me record this just

474
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: for prosterity, posterity.

475
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 5: Say, in case something goes.

476
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: But the way I looked at it was, look, we're

477
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: here by our house, Karen's with me. You know, there's

478
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: gotta be some way to trace back the left. Yes,

479
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: there's gotta be. You know, there there were people that

480
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: walked by road by that could be witnesses like I

481
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: just I would so. I but I did think it,

482
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: Miss Smart. I don't want you to I'm not trying

483
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: to say you were in the completely like in the wrong.

484
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: Really I thought it, and then I went, no, it'll

485
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: be too fucking weird to be like officer, I got

486
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: the evidence right here, okay. And I wasn't really trying

487
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: to look at the cheeks, now that I know what

488
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: it looked like like. No, nigga, I just take my

489
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 2: word for it. She was passed out, asked out on

490
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: the fucking sidewalk, and were just trying to help her

491
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: cover up, and she kept taking the thing off. So

492
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even felt comfortable recording because it's like she

493
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: literally would take the cover off, take the blanket off,

494
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: to try to get up ass hanging out oboly, she

495
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: would give up because she couldn't even stand. I would

496
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: just put the blanket back on her and then we

497
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: do that five minutes, five minutes of hello hey, then

498
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: back to try it and again.

499
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's also for one of my thing.

500
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 4: That's another reason why I call EMS, because I wanted

501
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 4: a timestamp on a I am here, this is who

502
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: you're talking to, this is my information.

503
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: All that shit is being like recorded.

504
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 4: So you know that right there for me is a

505
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 4: form because you know they put that to record everything,

506
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 4: what you call. And so it's one of those things

507
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 4: where a it's a time stamp, y'all know, I'm here,

508
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: I am a witness, you know, type of thing, and

509
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 4: people were driving by and walking buying things like that.

510
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: I was definitely looking at my phone to keep the

511
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: time too, like I know when the officer started up

512
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: and everything, because what I keep thinking is if anything

513
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: happens to her, shit, if she didn't make it through

514
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: the night or anything, or if something had happened to

515
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: her before, there might be a time where they come

516
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: back and be like, hey, y'all were witnesses to song, Yes, y'all,

517
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: we need to what time was it? What were y'all doing?

518
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: So I still remember walking in the house at ten

519
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: forty fifty seven pm. You know, I actually tweeted about

520
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: it just so I would remember, you know, and also

521
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: like the not to get too corny on y'all, but

522
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: like this is what neighbor's supposed to do. Like I

523
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: know there's a lot of macro shit in the world,

524
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: you know, with the like with the cops, with race

525
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: with when you know, all this shit, the politically we're

526
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: so divided and stuff. I don't know this woman. I

527
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: know that's a woman that needed help, and that's a

528
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: woman that was in desperate straits and nobody was going

529
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: to help her. That that lyft driver looked like he

530
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: was about two minutes from just dropping her house. Like

531
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: if she would have gotten out of that car. He

532
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: would have left her there, Yes, he would have. He

533
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: would have been like cool, on to the next ride.

534
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was inconvenient an hour of our life

535
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: or whatever that we won't get back. But I feel

536
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: a lot better knowing she got in safe than than not.

537
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: And maybe it's a Southern thing, I don't know, but

538
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 2: also we've had white folks look out for us in

539
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: situations like that. I'll never forget when we our car,

540
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: my car broke down in South Carolina in the neighborhood

541
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: and a guy driving by with his dad just happened

542
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: to be like a home mechanic and fixed our fix

543
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: my car enough for me to get home and everything.

544
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: And all he wanted was I bought him a set

545
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: of tools from from AutoZone. So uh and I you know,

546
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: I don't even know that guy from Adam. I'd imagine

547
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: we don't have very much in common when it comes

548
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: to a lot of things and our beliefs. Uh. Just

549
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: but it don't really matter in that case. It's just

550
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: like this is some old school human shit, like we

551
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: got to help each other. So I'm glad we were

552
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: the people there to help because I you know, and

553
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: and and you know, not to be too hard on

554
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: the lift driver. He got put in the horrible situations

555
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: he did, and I'm sure it costs him money waiting

556
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: to take the next ride because he was trying to

557
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: find people that look like, you know, they they would help,

558
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: and not people you know, I'm sure other people out

559
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: by it. He went fuck U.

560
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 4: Right, he was like no, you know, like and it

561
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 4: may have been because he was like, they look like

562
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 4: they are together as a couple.

563
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: I think it's definitely because it was me and a woman.

564
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: We're older, we're clearly like we're we're responsible.

565
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looked like they don't look like they're gonna

566
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 4: go party in the clib and they on the way

567
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 4: to the house.

568
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: We look like we would be able to take care

569
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 2: of a toddler if need be. And she was basically

570
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: a toddler in that state. So yeah, that was It

571
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: was a crazy, crazy thing that happened last night. But uh,

572
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: you know, and if I could have gotten her like

573
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: phone number or whatever, I would literally call to make

574
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: sure like ma'am you good, like everything fine, because you know,

575
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: and and like look, I'm not even telling you be embarrassed.

576
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: I feel like everybody has been like, if not exactly there,

577
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: but you've been somewhere where it's just like, man, I

578
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: made some mistakes were made, bad decisions with bad choices

579
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: were made. Yeah, but I you know, she probably don't

580
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: even remember a lot of that shit, And I would

581
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: just be like, fam, I don't know what's going on

582
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: with you and your uh, your homies need to have

583
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: a talk, because that ain't how you take care of somebody.

584
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's also one of those things I guess

585
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: I think for me, you know, because and it's not

586
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: even you know, she's having to be drunk, but you know,

587
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: sometimes people have sad effects and medications, hard attacks, strokes,

588
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: all types of shit. And I was like, I would

589
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: not feel comfortable just leaving you out open, out in

590
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: the air, like just there.

591
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: Yes, it's you know, the set or the weird part.

592
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: I guess it's not even weird, but it's I guess

593
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: it's weird to me in a way. If I was

594
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: by myself, I still would have done the same thing,

595
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: but I would have felt like, I hope the cops

596
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: don't show up and arrest me or do something to me, right,

597
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: because it would have been like if you weren't there,

598
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck would have would have

599
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: would have happened, just because there's so many you know,

600
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: shit is racist and fucked up here. Yeah, you know,

601
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: if they would even believe that. Almost Like my neighbor

602
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: got dropped off in the lift, I just didn't want

603
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: her to be alone these motherfuckers. Sure, sir, you got

604
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: the right to remain, you know, so I just appreciate

605
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: you being there, being calm and cool about it, even

606
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: though you wouldn't even come close to me and the

607
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: white girl, which I don't understand. I feel like you

608
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: should have been sitting with the white girl and I

609
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: should have been on the phone. You should have been

610
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: the other way around. Karen was determined she wasn't even

611
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: gonna get close to this lady just let her husband

612
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: go to jail. I don't know what the logic was exactly.

613
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: She literally just stood twenty feet away, like, oh, y'all,

614
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: you got it. You seem like you got it, like

615
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: the fucking am I gonna do?

616
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, boff us were probably would have went to

617
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: jail anyway. I'd have been necessory after the fact of

618
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 4: some bullshit.

619
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: Big black man next to a half naked white woman

620
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: that's always gone well in American society. No one's ever

621
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: had a problem with that shit anyway, any other thing

622
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: that that was it for me, got one more thing,

623
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: and I forgot. I did this with Renaissance, I do

624
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: this with most of her work, every everything except self title,

625
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: and I think I'm gonna do it again. I'm gonna

626
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: wait to listen to Beyonce. Now. I know what y'all

627
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: thinking while you're gonna wait. You love Beyonce and you

628
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: always like her work. I do, but I always fucking

629
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: forget how annoying the first couple of weeks of a

630
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: Beyonce release are. And I'm not just talking about the

631
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: super enthusiastic fans. I don't actually mind them as much.

632
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: I think people do too much to try to like

633
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: tamp down enthusiasm in a time where we have none

634
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: for anything. Correct. It's just the amount of takes off

635
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: of any Beyonce release they are, so it's a title wave,

636
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: no pun intended, it's a title wave of take. It's

637
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: crazy take. It's just reviews from people that never review

638
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: shit podcasts, from people that don't even do music podcasts.

639
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 2: It's fucking you know threads, it's you know, it's you know,

640
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: you got your white people that hate it, you got your.

641
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: I'm a music critic. I don't like it. You got your.

642
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: This is why it's not good. You got this is

643
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: why it's perfect and it's great, and it's always so

644
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: many reaches. It's a lot of projection because.

645
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 5: A lot of projects.

646
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: Beyonce is one of the most concise, direct communicators in

647
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: her art ever period, Like just there's not a lot

648
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: of ambiguity to her songs and there's not a lot

649
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: of stuff that happens that she just leaves out like

650
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: fuck it. What happens is people people project a lot.

651
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: I remember like like like people have taken like the

652
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: Uncle Johnny thing from Renaissance and being like I remember

653
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 2: that person wrote an article saying like they her family

654
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: didn't care and let him dive aids alone. And now

655
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, is this a fact that we know or

656
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: are you just projecting onto Beyonce and her family because

657
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: it's time for another take and everyone thinks their take

658
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: is unique. Everyone thinks they're about the you know, cause

659
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: the most boring thing you could say is y'all listen

660
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: to Renaissance. Shit was hard goes the whole way through,

661
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: and I just thought it was well done. That's the

662
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: worst fucking take, Like it's just like, well, nigga, that

663
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: everybody thinks that you gotta come back with some like

664
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: I ain't felt that. The exclusion of non binary people,

665
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: what's the problem?

666
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 6: You know?

667
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: Like, then people will whether they agree or disagree, You'll

668
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: get the clicks, you'll get the attention. You can't just

669
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: be you can't even just review it and be like

670
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: I thought this song was good because of this beat.

671
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: I thought this song was cool because it's like, what's

672
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: the macro message here? Is? Oh, she worked with this

673
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: person in this person. Now what does that say about that?

674
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: You know? And from what I've seen with the track

675
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: listing and everything, it's exactly what I thought she was.

676
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: She we I mean, which is one of the reasons

677
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: that I'm I'm not really pressed to get a lot

678
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: of people's opinions. We said weeks ago, I was like,

679
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: she gonna work with a lot of people that already

680
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: in the industry because she does group projects.

681
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 5: Yes she does.

682
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: It's not hard to determine at this point. She like,

683
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that in a negative like she's predictable.

684
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: Way I'm saying it in the like this is just

685
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: what she does. We know it's not gonna be straight

686
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: country because she's Beyonce. She would not. She's the point

687
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: is not just getting a guitar and one producer and

688
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: making a song about it. Like, that's not what she's

689
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: gonna do. That's not going back to nineteen sixty to

690
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: make nothing. She gonna make it beyond saying make it,

691
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: you know, inspired by this other stuff. You know, I got.

692
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: There's people that are calling the album a revenge album.

693
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: At the Country Music Awards, the Country Music Channel retweeted

694
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: like a praise or the album or tweet the praise

695
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: of the album. People were mad jumping, and they mentioned

696
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: Country Music Channel don't put on the Country Music Awards.

697
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: I know they do, not like it's not the same.

698
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: So like people, it was like, why are y'all fussing

699
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: at them? Because there's also people that think this album

700
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: is a vengeance album. She don't win kill Bill on

701
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: the Country Music Complex and shit, it's a lot. I

702
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: forgot how much. It's a lot.

703
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, every time she does something, you have I gotta

704
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 4: say that you have.

705
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: I want to say three groups of people.

706
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: You have, you know, the behigh where you know everything

707
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 4: she does is the best, in the greatest, and I

708
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 4: get that, you know, and sometimes that group goes a

709
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 4: little too hard, which irritates people. I get that too,

710
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 4: But you can also ignore those people if you choose to.

711
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: And then you have the people that hate everything she

712
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 4: ever put out since the beginning of the time, because

713
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: it's Beyonce that like, I just don't like her.

714
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 5: I don't like the music.

715
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: Whatever it may be, be racism, be it jealousy, whatever

716
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: it may be. Anytime she comes out with shit, is

717
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: this sub section of people that go, I just don't

718
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: like her.

719
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 2: And then it's this.

720
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 5: Other subsection of people.

721
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: And this group of people, yeah, I'm gonna touch if

722
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 4: they weird to me, the people that don't listen to music,

723
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 4: don't like her music, but always consumer shit and always

724
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: got an opinion on her shit. And it's like, when Nigga,

725
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: why are you even over here?

726
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I think is weird. I think

727
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: there's a group of people that like her music, and

728
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: they know they like her music the same way everybody

729
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: else like her music, but they want to be different,

730
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: so they try to come up with angles of why

731
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: the way they like it is different or I'm not

732
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: that pressed, like y'all are right, and it's it's they're annoying.

733
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: They're more annoying than the haters. To me, they are

734
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: because like, nigga, you going to the Renaissance concert too?

735
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: You not special? Nigga eat what you bought the tickets

736
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: in a with some different money than I bought it

737
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: with you you doing the same shit is she makes

738
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: community moments out of her art, and she has a

739
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: hook like, she has her hooks in, she has a

740
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: hold on she like especially black women, black felms, and

741
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: they're gonna interrogate it. You know, the woke people interrogate everything,

742
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: so they're gonna interrogate whatever they mess with. But there's

743
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: also just a level of like community that goes unacknowledged

744
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: that she's continued to commit herself to making that work

745
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: for right, and I think that part goes unrecognized in

746
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: a lot of the conversations, and the intentionality of her

747
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: work is what really I vibe with. I was saying

748
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: her and Russell Westbrook are the only two niggas that

749
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: make working hard look cool right now in America. We

750
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: don't let anyone else ever work hard and let them

751
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: be cool. Anyone else who works hard, we basically treat

752
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: them like cornballs, like why are you trying so hard?

753
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: Cool should be effortless. You should not want things that

754
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: you can't attain. No one should be able to make

755
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: you feel any type of way. And with this album,

756
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: she's been able to say shit like like the the

757
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: inspiration of being being left out of the seeing like

758
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: her not warm welcome at the CMAS or whatever. And

759
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: I know people that feel like, why would she ever

760
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: admit to something like that? And this is probably gonna

761
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: be a weird episode because I want to I'm gonna

762
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: get into a lot of tangents on this, but it's

763
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: not really about Beyonce. It's about some other shit, right,

764
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: This is just a gateway into it. But I feel

765
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: like there's two type of people when it comes to

766
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: two type of Black Americans when it comes to our

767
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: work and our creativity and the things that we do.

768
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 2: There's black people who openly admit to being affected and

769
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: enraged and inspired by the plight black people have been

770
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: put into in America and white supremacy and their entitlement

771
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: and how it hurts us and affects us, and they're

772
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: open about it. Yes, and a lot of times we

773
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: make them feel bad, Like why you let white people

774
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: tell you what to do? Man? Why you let white

775
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: people do so you mad at white people?

776
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: That's making you, you know whatever, Like I'm acknowledging the

777
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 4: truth and the other things that impact me.

778
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: So that's the first group. And then the second group

779
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: of Black Americans are those of us that lie to

780
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: ourselves and say that we aren't that those things have

781
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: no effect on us. I've been a member of the

782
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: second group many times. By the way, this is not

783
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: a judgment of the second group. It's just how I

784
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: see it. It's like, even during those moments where it

785
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: was about the absence of whiteness, that is still it

786
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: is still affecting me that I made a choice that

787
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 2: is about not including them or not considering them, because

788
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: they're a huge factor in America and American pop culture.

789
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: So anything you create in America has to deal with whiteness,

790
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: especially if you're black. You know, I won't address the

791
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: third group, which is I just people that completely capitulate

792
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: to white supremacy and and like you know, like your

793
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: Candae Owens types and shit that are like, I'm just

794
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: gonna ride this white supremacy wave, so forget them. But

795
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: of those other two, because I respect both both of

796
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: those groups. I respect. At times I've been like, I

797
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: want to make something and I don't even want to

798
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: think about white folks.

799
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 5: I agreed.

800
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: At other times I man sit and I've been like, yeah,

801
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: fuck the white folks. But guess what that whole time,

802
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: if you're not constantly in some level of awareness, then

803
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: you're an anger about it. Then you're not. Then you're

804
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: lying that that black people are like the Hope and

805
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: Avengers where he goes, I'm always angry. That's that's what

806
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: it is. And if you if anyone telling you different

807
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: is mostly a fucking liar because you may have your

808
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: moments of joy, but guess what black joy is? Revolution? Resistance?

809
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: Why is it revolution and resistance? Then it can't be revelatory,

810
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: It can't be revolution, It can't it can't be resistance

811
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: unless it's resisting something that we have to acknowledge exists. Right,

812
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: So we all pretend, I think not, we all pretend

813
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: there's a contingent of the zeitgeist of the of the

814
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: society of our conversation that really thinks their strength and

815
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: saying we aren't affected. And like, I was talking to

816
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: my friend about this, and you know, they're talking about

817
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: they were going through something, and I said, you know,

818
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: time heals our wounds, but our scars are and the

819
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: pain are our origin stories. And what I mean by

820
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: that is the pain and the and the damage and

821
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: the scar. A new story starts every scar. Yes, it does.

822
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: You are changed by this, right, And what happens is

823
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: many of us think strength is either a getting back

824
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: to this point before we were quote unquote damaged, right,

825
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: where like I'm so good, it's like I never had

826
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 2: my arm cut off or whatever. Right, that's what many

827
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: of us think strength is, yes, or I'm so strong

828
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter I have my arm cut off. That's

829
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: another one, like I'm not even acknowledging that this has

830
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: been happening to me. I'm not acknowledging and that is

831
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: my strength. And I've come to forty five years into

832
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: my life, I've come to the conclusion that I don't

833
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: I understand that I don't necessarily find that as what

834
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: I would call the ultimate strength. I think the ultimate

835
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: strength is in the admission of I have recognized the unfairness.

836
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: It has emotionally affected me, and I'm living with that,

837
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: and that's transparent about that. And I'm still gonna go

838
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: out here and do the best work I can. I'm

839
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: gonna make the best art I can or whatever it is.

840
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: But there is no there is no demerit. There is

841
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: no fault in being affected by something that is traumatic.

842
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: You know, there's no uh, there's no fault. And she

843
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: she's a billionaire, rich, famous woman. Her problems are gonna

844
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: be those of the rich, famous woman. You know. I

845
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: saw a reviewer. They were like, she's not singing about

846
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: being poorn, but what y'all wouldn't believe it? Right? You

847
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: know what else you wouldn't believe it. She put this

848
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: album out and she didn't say it was about the CEMA.

849
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: Y'all would go, bullshit, bitch, we saw what happened to

850
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: you and the Dixie Chicks, and we know that really

851
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: this album is about the fact that those people did

852
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: not let you in. That's what you would say, and

853
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: you chastise her for not admitting it. I go back

854
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 2: to this album a lot, and I will. I think

855
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: at this point I'm gonna stand for this album. I'm

856
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: an evangelize for this album, and and it just doesn't

857
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: matter if people never get on board with me. I truly,

858
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: one hundred percent feel like I'm right and everyone else

859
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: in the world is wrong on this album, Mister Morale

860
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: and the Big Steppers, to me, is Kendrick's most poigant work.

861
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: It is his agree realist work. It is his hardest work,

862
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: It is his most crucial work. If he finished his

863
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: career with that album, I would be like that that

864
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: was a masterpiece. I think it's his magnum opus. Know it,

865
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 2: don't slap in the way that you know the inspirational alright,

866
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: is gonna slap. No, he doesn't have any big ego

867
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: songs like King Koonta knows. You know, it's not It's

868
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: not just about I'm the fucking greatest and you guys

869
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: should listen to me. And here's what's wrong with the

870
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 2: black community in the world. It's not that. It's it's

871
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: an album that I strive to to encapsulate, which is

872
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: all all things begin in through the introspection I have

873
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: about myself. Because if I can't fix myself, I have

874
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: no fucking business pointing the finger at all of you.

875
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, was I really pointing the

876
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: finger at y'all so I wouldn't be looking at me?

877
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: That's what the whole album is. Yes, I was looking

878
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: at y'all telling you you're not perfect, and really, my

879
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: shit is fucked up. And not only is it fucked up,

880
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: but here's my raw, honest thoughts that are like not

881
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: about trying to look good to you, right, which you know,

882
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: people rejected and when they they're so shallow and silly.

883
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: They were like, look at him. This album shows that

884
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: he's flawed, and I'm like, that's the fucking primise. The point,

885
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: the premise of the album is I'm flawed. Like in

886
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: every way that you find these other people flawed, I

887
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: am too. I've just been faking, like I've just been

888
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: pretending that I'm better than you. I've been you know,

889
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 2: the Pharaoh and the king and all this other ship.

890
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I'm just a

891
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: nigga from Comptent that makes mistakes. That that that that

892
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: that cheated on his girl while he was telling everybody

893
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: else about all this bullshit, that that had sex with

894
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: white women. While I was detegrating people and racism, like

895
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: speaking out on all this racial ship that uh you know,

896
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: wearing ants and black empowerment. A person that never really

897
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: stood up or talked about homophobia and transphobia. And I

898
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: have homophobican trans members I have stood up for in

899
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: my own life that taught me and raised me. And

900
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: yet I wasn't saying that kind of stuff on my albums.

901
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: I was just letting y'all cook. And no, I didn't

902
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: have the perfect terms when I was going through this,

903
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: I it was confusing to me. It was misgendering, it

904
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: was dead naming. I didn't know it that like that

905
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: because I was a kid and these are just my

906
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: loved ones. It wasn't I didn't go to I didn't

907
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: read beell hooks or go to school or or go

908
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: on Twitter and find the right words. I'm telling I'm

909
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: giving you the rawest, honest version of me and letting

910
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: you judge it. Like like, hey, I'm turning my phone off. Yeah,

911
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm walking away, Like that's what he did.

912
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: They was like yeah, they was like this nigga like

913
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 4: downgraded his phone and like he was like.

914
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: Nope, Yeah, here's the hardest song for many people to

915
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: listen to. Is him being like rawly honest about the

916
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: gender wars that people are having every single day of

917
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: our lives within the black community, being like, this is

918
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: how we fucking sound right now, and at the end

919
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: of the day, we still love each other. So I

920
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: don't want to do like an hour of you, I'm

921
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: sorry to go. I told you I was gonna be

922
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: a weird tangenty long win the episode. Can I know

923
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: you're writing stuff down, I'm gonna let you have it.

924
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: But my point being, the strength is in the vulnerability.

925
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: The strength is actually in the imperfect. The strength is

926
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: in the this is me and why because we can

927
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: all relate to that, and why can we all relate

928
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: to this? What I was telling my friend because you know,

929
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: they had like a breakthrough and they were like, I

930
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: had this realization that I've been trying to cope with

931
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: this thing, and I've been dealing with this thing forever

932
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: and I and it's and you know, and I know

933
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: how it is, especially for really smart people. We don't

934
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 2: want to be stereotypes. We don't want to be basic,

935
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: we don't won't be like the rest of these motherfuckers.

936
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: We don't want to be we don't want to hear

937
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: that our problem is the same as every other person's

938
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 2: problem that deals with the same shit. You know. It's

939
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 2: like if a uh, you know, It's like if I'm like, oh, yeah,

940
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: I gained a lot of weight, and then people go, well,

941
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: it could be like emotional eating, and I'm like, no,

942
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I don't think. Not me. I'm

943
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 2: too smart for that. It must be something else, right,

944
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: because only a smart genius like myself would have It

945
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: would have to be a special problem that normal, regular

946
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 2: other people don't have, you know. And so but meanwhile,

947
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: the thing I was saying to his friend was the

948
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: whole world. What's happening is that when you admit things

949
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 2: to yourself about yourself, and when you are able to say,

950
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: this is the my real truth, right, the one that's uncomfortable,

951
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to admit to, the one I don't like,

952
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: And when you can say that out loud to yourself,

953
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: not this ain't about everybody else, to yourself, that's when

954
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: you look up and you realize you ain't got no

955
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: clothes on. You've been out here like that white girl

956
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: from last night, ass out the whole time. Yees, you

957
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: have never had clothes on. Okay, you the Emperor with

958
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: no clothes. You have been naked the whole time. And

959
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: once you realize you admit that to yourself, you will

960
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: quickly realize everyone seeing you naked, you've been naked the

961
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: whole time. Everyone else knew you were naked. How did

962
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: they know? Though you were hiding it so well, You

963
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: were saying this, and you said, and when it was

964
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: brought up to you, I had a great answer for it,

965
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: and it was always. The reason they know is because

966
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: the pain and the trauma and the way that we

967
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: all like hurt each other, we are all fluent in it,

968
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: whether it be from the standpoint of a perpetrator or

969
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: a victim of it, because we are all both, and

970
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: so we know each other's raps. We know the lyrics

971
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: to each other's songs already because we have lived them.

972
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: So it's many things like that. The real power isn't

973
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: admitting it to yourself because no one can ever use

974
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: it against you. Right. I see someone like Beyonce saying

975
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: why she made this album. I see someone like Kendrick

976
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: making Mister Morale and the Big Steppers as the most

977
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: powerful art possible because you can never use it against

978
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: that person. You can say it, don't slap. Sure, you

979
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 2: don't have to like it, but you can never come

980
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: at her after this album and then say she didn't

981
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 2: say that's why she made it. You can never come

982
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: at her and go, you know why you really made

983
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: that album. It's because your feelings were hurt by the

984
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: white people at the Country Music Awards. And if she

985
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: had never admitted that, it'll always be a cudgel that

986
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: you get to use as a weapon. And she can

987
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: never disprove for the record because no matter how many

988
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: times she would go, no, that's not it, you go,

989
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: that's it. You made a country music album because the

990
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 2: white folks made you mad. No, that's not it at all.

991
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: It's just I like country music. I'm from Texas. Yeah, yeah, okay, Beyonce,

992
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: we saw what happening with the Dixie Chicks. They hurt

993
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: your feelings, and you can just come out and admit it.

994
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: We would like to you have a one up. We

995
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: don't have a one up on her. She fucking told

996
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: you what the problem was. You don't have a one

997
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: up on mister Morale. Big stuff is why a lot

998
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: of people, I think don't. That's why they really don't

999
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: like the album. There's no one up, there's no he

1000
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: didn't perform for us in a way that allowed us

1001
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 2: to be like, well, you know what the problem is

1002
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: with his ass. Fucking told you all the problems with

1003
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: his ass and was.

1004
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 5: Like it wanted to him or not ended it with

1005
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 5: I ain't perfect.

1006
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm sorry. See you guys next six seven years.

1007
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 2: Whenever I come up with a new album, I guess

1008
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: I'll see y'all again. But uh yeah, I'm good on

1009
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: all this. I understand that I have been hypocritical and

1010
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: kind of full of shit about this. You can't every

1011
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: negative review of that album that brought that up. I

1012
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: was like, so you're listening to the album right, like

1013
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: what you want to say? Like, and I know nobody

1014
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: wants to be a cliche, but it's only but so

1015
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: many stories on this earth, man, we all living through

1016
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: the same kind of shit. We're all affected by the

1017
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: same kind of shit. You know, the brain is basically

1018
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: a computer, you know what I'm saying. So while we

1019
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: are all different, there's a lot of stuff that we

1020
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: experienced that is similar. There's a lot of pitfalls and

1021
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: things we have to face together. And so I think

1022
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: this is one of the reasons that to me, I

1023
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: can wait to listen to the music for her is

1024
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: but specifically because I think she's going to communicate clear

1025
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: and I like no noise from every everyone gets your

1026
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: take off, I get you got a month or so,

1027
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: you know. I remember the first time I played Renaissance

1028
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: all the way through, I want to say, I was

1029
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 2: in New York writing for game Theory. That's how long

1030
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: I waited, because they dropped in like the summer, and

1031
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: I waited until I was it was like maybe December,

1032
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: and then I listened to it and I and I

1033
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: was so thankful to not have to even no one

1034
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: cared about my opinion. I didn't care about theirs. People

1035
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: had already said how they felt. I thought the ship

1036
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: was perfect and I and complete. And I think time

1037
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 2: tells the real truth with that ship because every hot

1038
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: take motherfucker was in the tennis at them concerts. Every

1039
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: negative thing people said melted because when them so came on,

1040
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: you danced, or you share it in community moments, or

1041
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: you use it on your fucking social media to highlight something.

1042
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: It became the music of a culture of a people,

1043
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: because that's what music does. Music isn't the review. Music

1044
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: don't care about the review. One person's opinion doesn't get

1045
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: to make or break society's opinion. What people, because the

1046
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: truth is, what do you press play on a month

1047
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: after the album's out? That's the truth. I go back

1048
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: and revisit Mister Morale and the Big Steppers all the

1049
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: time because I really like And that's how that's my truth.

1050
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: It's the that is a true masterpiece to me when

1051
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm going back to it, you know, because if I

1052
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: just said all this flattery stuff about it and it

1053
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 2: was like seven days out and then I never went

1054
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: back and listen, the truth is, I ain't think it

1055
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: was that good because I ain't never go back, you know,

1056
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 2: and other people listening to this they may have or

1057
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: going back to that album, it ain't. It ain't hit

1058
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: them the way it hit me, right, And that's all right,

1059
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is what the conversation made me think about,

1060
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: and that conversation with my friend. I don't think there's

1061
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: anything stronger or better or more honest. Then yeah, I

1062
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: have been hurt and that aspires my work, you know,

1063
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: like when and it's funny because it's like we don't

1064
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 2: want to give certain groups that, but it's all over

1065
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: your work, Okay, So I make work I make. When

1066
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: I was writing for Game Theory, I had a lot

1067
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: of thoughts about race and racism cause and it's not

1068
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: like I was writing the show like I can't wait

1069
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: to make the white people mad. I ain't mad at

1070
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 2: what the fuck has been done, and it's okay, Like

1071
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: it's not I get nothing out of it of not

1072
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: admitting that. And then you know, when it's men, how

1073
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: much women are is about how fucking toxic get fucked

1074
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: up me can be because yeah, because they you know,

1075
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna hold it against you. That's informed from somewhere,

1076
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: you know, like it's and also it could be Catharsis

1077
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: where you put it out and it fucking that's what

1078
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: helps with the healing, That's what helps. I don't think

1079
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: you can fix it until you're honest about it, you know.

1080
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: And it's it's a struggle. I struggle with it every day,

1081
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. This is not just me

1082
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: on a hot horse. This is just how I see

1083
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: the world right now. And I think there's something powerful

1084
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: in it, in this this stuff I'm doing with the gem,

1085
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: the cardio, working out my food. It's been rough in

1086
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: the mentally. It's been kind of easy once I just

1087
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: rip the band aid off and start talking about it,

1088
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: but it's been rough mentally to be like, fuck, I

1089
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to admit that this is a hard

1090
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: thing that I haven't been able to do and I'm

1091
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: now trying and trying in the world can see not

1092
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: trying behind closed doors in private. I mean, I'm not

1093
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: filming every second. I haven't done an Instagram inspiration post.

1094
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 5: Or nothing but coming.

1095
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: But you know, our podcast, we talk about our lives

1096
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: and you know, saying like these are behaviors and things

1097
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm changing, These are things I want to control, these

1098
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: are things I want to do better. And the whole

1099
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: world can see that, you know, And I'm not necessarily

1100
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: doing it for the response of the whole world. Like

1101
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it because i want everyone to tell

1102
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: me how great I am or it's inspiration or it's fun.

1103
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 2: I'm scared. I'm scared to fail, you know. I'm scared

1104
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: to have tried really hard at something and not succeed.

1105
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: I was a kid that when he tried to do

1106
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: something boom like. It was not that I didn't work hard,

1107
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: but a lot of stuff came easier to me than

1108
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: other people. You know, And I know you are very

1109
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: hard working, that's constantly works hard and all that stuff.

1110
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: But just I'm just speaking from my experience because it

1111
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: all comes with different pitfalls, and mine has been one

1112
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: of like, well, if I can't do it easily, if

1113
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: it requires more work and effort than I normally would do,

1114
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: but then I'm not gonna fucking do it. I don't

1115
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: want people to see me try some shit I can't

1116
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: do and then it don't work. And I know that's

1117
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: I know I'm saying out loud because I already know

1118
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: that's a fucked up point of view, and it's not

1119
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: that's not real, Like you know what I'm saying. There

1120
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: are people that might be hating, but most people are

1121
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: rooting for you.

1122
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 5: Yes, so most people are rooting for you.

1123
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: But the brain does the brain thing. You know, the

1124
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 2: brain is like, oh, everybody gonna see you tried to

1125
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: do that. It didn't work, you know, like that the

1126
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: brain is doing that. You know, I am your conscious

1127
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: and so it's been difficult to say that. But once

1128
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: you say that out loud, once you admit that, once

1129
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: you fucking like put it out there. No one can

1130
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: ever use that against me right now, Like if somebody were,

1131
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: you know, to say whatever the fuck about me, I

1132
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: already know you know what I'm saying. I'm not saying

1133
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: any of like in a way of like, uh, you

1134
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: should let your haters motivate, you know. I'm just saying like,

1135
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: if I want something, I should be able to try.

1136
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: And it's not a threat to anyone else, right, it's not.

1137
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: It's not about you. You shouldn't ever be mad at

1138
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: somebody else's motivation, right ever, it's their motivation, you know,

1139
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: you don't. We don't know all the stories of everybody

1140
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: and everything they're going through. We don't know what affects people.

1141
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: You know, you watch you watch people, uh do stuff

1142
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: in life, and you go, oh, man, that that's changed.

1143
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: So we can be inspired by people in a positive

1144
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: or negative way. Why are we so adamant on owning everybody?

1145
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: And I think the biggest resistance to listening to Beyonce's

1146
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: albums as the day they come out is in the

1147
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: ownership people seem to want to have over this woman

1148
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: who has decided to not be owned like she everything

1149
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: she does is like I'm not. I'm not anybody's bitch.

1150
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: You Like, I will do what I want to do

1151
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: when I want to fucking do it, and tell you

1152
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: exactly why I'm doing it so there's no fucking speculation,

1153
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: and then I will abscond to my mansions and I'll

1154
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: see you in a few years or whatever. So I think, uh,

1155
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: like I said, I find it to be powerful in

1156
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: a way that I envy and that will not envy,

1157
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: aspire to in a way that I aspire to be,

1158
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: to be able to say like, yeah, I know this

1159
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: is a true thing about myself. Okay, you see it too,

1160
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: and what are we gonna do?

1161
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 4: You know?

1162
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: And I think that's that's what's Uh, that's that that

1163
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: part of the conversation, that part of the discussion is

1164
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: the part that seems to have been over shadowed by

1165
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: everyone's projection instead of like, what does this really mean

1166
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: for this person? And I can just take it at

1167
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: face value? You no, Look, if that infuriates you that

1168
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: this woman who seems to have everything would dare admit

1169
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: that white supremacy also bothers her, I'm not really sure

1170
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: what we want at that point, because we also get

1171
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: mad if these rich motherfuckers don't acknowledge it. We also

1172
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: get mad if they fake and pretend to do like

1173
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: poor people cosplay. There's a lot of there's a lot

1174
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: of anger and people looking for an outlet, and like

1175
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: I have a friend that that like, like I have

1176
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: like I have friends that We all have this, people

1177
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: that say everything's okay when it's not because we've just

1178
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: been told everything. Just act like it's okay and it'll

1179
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: be okay. Say it's okay when it's not okay. But

1180
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: the most powerful realist thing in a friendship be the

1181
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: moments where people go, I'm actually not okay. That's when

1182
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: the friendship starts. That's when the work of friendship starts.

1183
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: That's when the relationship is honest. You everything up until then,

1184
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: your casual acquaintances, everything's been good. But it's them days

1185
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: where it's like I need a person I can be

1186
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: not okay with.

1187
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know and that.

1188
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: And I think seeing people we aspire to be like say,

1189
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: I'm the work I make is because I'm not okay.

1190
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't know why it fucks with people, And I

1191
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: think it works both ways. Even the people who are

1192
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: nothing but praise, many times dehumanized Beyonce by saying her

1193
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: humanity is the performance, not that she's a god diva

1194
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,479
Speaker 2: that has never been affected by anything. Jay Z didn't

1195
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: really treat on her. She just made that up. She

1196
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: wasn't hurt at all that you know, like that this

1197
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 2: is not about the CMA. She's just getting revenge on

1198
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: the white folks. It's like or she told us how

1199
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: she felt, and I don't know, I believe her. Why

1200
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: would she be lying today? Like what does she get

1201
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: out of that? So anyway, that's those are my thoughts.

1202
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: I talked for a very long time because I've been

1203
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: thinking about this for a very long time. But Karen,

1204
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: go ahead, these things play. I guess you know what, Actually,

1205
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: let's play music. So we put commercial here, okay, and

1206
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: Karen's gonna come back and bless y'all. Alright, Karen, give

1207
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: us them takes.

1208
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 4: I wanted to continue to talk about Beyonce for a

1209
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 4: little bit.

1210
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: For me.

1211
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 4: Listening to Beyonce's Disocraphy, Yeah that I'm using the right

1212
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 4: word desocraphy. I think for me, Lemonade was her album

1213
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 4: for me personally, where you.

1214
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 5: Heard the album where you go?

1215
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 4: Okay, Beyonce was wrong, but Lemonade was the one where

1216
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 4: you go oh, like it was like a shift or

1217
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 4: a switch or a change where it's like no, no, no, no, no,

1218
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 4: no no, You're going to get who this is, really

1219
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: who I am. You're not getting the performance, You're not

1220
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 4: getting a fake defunk. Like I'm going to literally tap

1221
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 4: within myself and talk about things that I've never talked

1222
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 4: about before, my marriage, my husband, my children. You know,

1223
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to really talk about these things that I

1224
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 4: normally don't share with the world. And I think a

1225
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 4: lot of what I've realized over the years about artists

1226
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 4: about music. People consume music and people go, uh, most

1227
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 4: people know that music that moves them is normally and

1228
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 4: I'm not my ass shaking music, nothing like that. But

1229
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 4: my music that actually just moves the spirit is something

1230
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 4: that a person performs raps or sings or whatever that

1231
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 4: you can relate to.

1232
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 2: It's something about it that that that hits your heart

1233
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: where you go ooh, I feel that, and you know,

1234
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: because that's why a lot of women love Mary J.

1235
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 5: Blige.

1236
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 4: And I know a lot of people you know, talk

1237
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 4: about her music, but the shit that she sings about

1238
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 4: a lot of people can relate to and still can

1239
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 4: continue to relate to So as long as they continue

1240
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 4: to relate to it moves. And the thing about lemonading,

1241
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 4: lemonading moved. And some people don't like to be acknowledged

1242
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 4: with truths, and I think a lot of times people

1243
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 4: reject artists that actually give them the truth, even though

1244
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 4: a lot of times the truth is the one thing

1245
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: that people can relate to and make albums quote unquote

1246
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 4: stand the test of time, because you've told, most of

1247
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 4: the music that we listen to does not stand the

1248
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 4: test of time.

1249
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: It's your bop, it's your hit if you hear it.

1250
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 4: Again, no matter how many times you brought back to

1251
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 4: a certain moment, and you can rock, but you have

1252
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 4: certain album songs, artists, whatever, then when you hear that you,

1253
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: no matter where you are in life, you can always

1254
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 4: relate to it because it's something about it that taps

1255
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 4: into your soul. And it's rare that we actually get

1256
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 4: music like that truth be told. And so that particular album,

1257
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 4: I think, out of all her music up to this point,

1258
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 4: is going to literally, in my for me personally, stand

1259
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 4: the test of time.

1260
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 5: And so I think that.

1261
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 4: Also when you were talking about you know, Beyonce and

1262
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 4: her acknowledging.

1263
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: That she was hurt by how they treated her.

1264
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 4: I think that a lot of people don't like to

1265
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 4: acknowledge shit because we live in a society now where

1266
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 4: acknowledging something is a flaw. Acknowledging something makes you weak.

1267
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 4: Feeling things make you weak. Saying that you will hurt,

1268
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 4: saying that you're sad, saying saying that you're feeling anything

1269
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 4: besides anger for justice, you know, or either your happy,

1270
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 4: happy joy joy all the time.

1271
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 5: That's not realistic.

1272
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: And people don't actually sit in these boxes of joy

1273
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: all the time. And anger at the time. That's very unrealistic.

1274
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 4: And and and and both extremes are not healthy.

1275
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 5: And so we're human.

1276
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 4: Beings are complex, And like I said, I've realized over

1277
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Speaker 4: the years that human beings don't like to don't like

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01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 4: to acknowledge that the people that they listen to and

1279
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 4: consume have these problems, because if they acknowledge that for

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01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 4: some of them, they would have to acknowledge that they

1281
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 4: also have these problems. They would have to also have

1282
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 4: to acknowledged that there are things in their life, particularly

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 4: it's something that they can relate to, they have to

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01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 4: acknowledge those things too, And it boils back to a

1285
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 4: lot of the stuff I talked about before. People don't

1286
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: want to do the enter uh look looking inwards to

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01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 4: figure out why these things, calls these emotions to pull

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01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,919
Speaker 4: out of them when quote unquote social media have told

1289
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 4: you these things are terrible, which is not true.

1290
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 5: Feelings are fine, y'all.

1291
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 4: Feelings, emotions, anger, sadness, joy, depression, These feelings are fine.

1292
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 4: The problem is what do you do when you have

1293
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: these feelings? Do you process them? Do you go through them?

1294
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 4: Do you look do you look it in the face?

1295
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 4: Do you acknowledge that A. It's some things in me

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01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 4: that I personally need to work on. It's some things.

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01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 4: Everybody's different, but it's some people that I might need

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 4: to forgive, including myself, you know. It's some things that

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01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 4: I might need to let go of, you know, so

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01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 4: that I could press on to not stay stuck, you know,

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 4: because there's a lot of people that are stuck. And

1302
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 4: if you listen to social media, you will never grow

1303
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 4: past your worst moment. So that's what social media tells people.

1304
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 4: Social media says, if you fuck up, you are this

1305
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 4: fuck up right here, you are this fuck up for

1306
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 4: the rest of your life, forever and ever.

1307
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 5: Amen.

1308
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 4: No matter what you do, no matter who you saved,

1309
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 4: no matter how much money you give, no matter what

1310
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 4: you accomplished in life, we saw you fuck up on

1311
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 4: this platform, so fuck you.

1312
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 5: But that's not realistic.

1313
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 4: And they know that because the thing is, and I've

1314
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 4: always said this, people have had the ability to grow offline.

1315
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: Most the average person has the.

1316
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 4: Ability to grow, to to evolve, to change, to mature,

1317
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 4: to fuck up without cameras and all this shit being

1318
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 4: consistently glued and posted in their face. But yet they

1319
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 4: go online and they judge everybody else who should hap

1320
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 4: to be public like like like their flaws are meant

1321
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 4: to be forever. But but but you can hide with yours.

1322
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 4: And I have compassion. I know a lot of people

1323
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 4: don't have compassion like that, But I have compassion. I

1324
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 4: have the ability to have an understanding, you know, for that,

1325
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 4: and and and and look at it at a at

1326
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 4: a bigger and a larger level. And the thing is,

1327
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 4: I will I meant I'm flawed. I will admit I've grown,

1328
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 4: I'm mature, I've changed. For people that doesn't listen to

1329
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 4: our show, as long as you've listened to it, you

1330
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 4: know that me and Rogers's opinions have grown evolved and changed.

1331
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 5: We are not the same person that were used to be.

1332
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 4: And I hope the person listening to my sound of

1333
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 4: my voice is not the same person that they was

1334
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 4: ten to fifteen years ago.

1335
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1336
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: I think the other thing too, is like I remember

1337
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: the reaction of Lemonade that some people had, and a

1338
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 2: lot of that reaction was really about not wanting to

1339
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: believe that Beyonce could be hurt by a man, all right.

1340
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: You know, like a lot of the rejection was like, Hey,

1341
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: if we're saying that she can be hurt by man,

1342
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: then what are we really saying about the rest of

1343
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: us out here? And I think that you know that

1344
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: that was what you were talking about. And yeah, like

1345
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 2: the other thing about Mister Morale and Big Steppers was

1346
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: that was an album that made me feel like Kendrick

1347
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: was saying, no one can control me. You can't control me.

1348
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 2: You can't because the weapons that people use and control

1349
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 2: each other now in public is a lot of guilt, shame, ridicule, mocking.

1350
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: We say it's okay when it's for the right side,

1351
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: and it depends on what side drome that determines which

1352
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 2: one is right. We've all seen that happen with people

1353
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 2: where it's like, damn, you're really going in on this

1354
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: motherfucker and I think you just docked them, and I

1355
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 2: think you just threatened them. And it seems like when

1356
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 2: the other people do that, you cry victim and you

1357
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: say that's wrong, but it's okay for you to do

1358
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: it right now. And it's like he docks himself, you know.

1359
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: It's like it's like he be rabbit in himself at

1360
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: eight miles. He's just like, yeah, I do live with

1361
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: my mom or whatever. And I think that that it

1362
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 2: does power in that. So yeah, like I said, it's

1363
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 2: been something that's on my mind. It's not really about Beyonce.

1364
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: It's really something else, which is that And I've been

1365
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 2: thinking it for a while. I was talking to my friend.

1366
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: I knew I was talking a lot, and I was like,

1367
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: I the reason I'm talking as much is because I

1368
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: just think about this so much. I just don't talk

1369
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: about it much. Right, I don't even know I've talked

1370
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: about on the show that much. I just don't talk

1371
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: about it much. But I see the damnness of blackness

1372
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 2: in America of you're damned if you do, you're damned

1373
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: if you don't. But to me, the big honest truth

1374
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: is we're either liars when we say we are not

1375
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 2: thinking about this stuff we're not affected by it, or

1376
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: we just don't we don't have a full picture of

1377
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: ourselves and see when we are over the line and

1378
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 2: when we're not. You know, there's a lot of time,

1379
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: like there's people where I talk to that like, I

1380
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: don't believe in respectability. I don't believe that there's any

1381
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: art we can make as black people that is gonna

1382
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 2: teach white people the right way. I hate white savor movies,

1383
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: I hate race movies, I hate anything maybe don't feel great,

1384
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:07,480
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Right, And then they'll go, I don't

1385
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: you know, I don't even subscribe to all that shit.

1386
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not even one of these representation matters, motherfuckers.

1387
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 2: I just do me. Then the Good Time trailers drop

1388
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: and they're like, white people gonna put us back into slavery.

1389
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 2: Like it's like white people are gonna watch this and

1390
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: this is gonna be why they are racist because this

1391
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: show was made And I'm like, it's just a fucking

1392
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: TV show. It doesn't get that much power, even though

1393
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: if I hated it, it doesn't get to have that

1394
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 2: much power over me and my people to where it

1395
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 2: can't exist or where its existence sets us back. It

1396
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 2: doesn't do shit. It's just a fucking show. If I

1397
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 2: don't like it, I won't watch it. That's what I

1398
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: do with millions of show every day. I wake up,

1399
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: don't watch them. I show don't And it don't matter

1400
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 2: to me, you know, I didn't even like the original

1401
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: Good Times. It don't matter to me. I don't bring

1402
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: it up. I don't make references on the show about it.

1403
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm not angry at it. I don't even have like

1404
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: a hot take on it. I just thought it wasn't

1405
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: that funny to me. I've watched a lot of it

1406
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 2: with my with my grandmama and stuff. It just wasn't

1407
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: hitting for me in that way. Uh that and it

1408
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: and and for and I'm and I'm not saying I

1409
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: detest it either, like it just it was all right,

1410
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 2: wasn't my favorite, like the Jefferson's better, you know, like

1411
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 2: Frank Saif and his son better, you know. And so

1412
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 2: my point being, like we we are struggling with a

1413
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 2: lot of this because a lot of it is we

1414
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: ain't even being honest with ourselves, and so if we

1415
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: were honest with ourselves, honesty might be Hey, I do

1416
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 2: feel the need for all black images or most like

1417
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 2: images to be positive, then be honest about that. Don't. Don't. Don't.

1418
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 2: Don't try to make it into the people think it's

1419
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: a you thing. You need that because somehow in this world,

1420
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 2: you think if we put enough positivity out, it'll justify something,

1421
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: it'll make something better, it'll do something. Maybe you're right.

1422
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't agree. I don't think. I

1423
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 2: listen to a bunch of music got niggas in it

1424
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: and and and bitches in it. And but I've lived,

1425
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: I've watched too much stuff and lived my life too much.

1426
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: You know that way. May may content that way to

1427
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 2: even pretend that I believe.

1428
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 4: That's true, and I don't, And a lot of them

1429
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 4: don't even believe in themselves. And the reason why I

1430
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 4: say this is because I've been around long enough and

1431
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 4: been on the internet long enough.

1432
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 5: Y'all get this shit.

1433
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 4: You don't support it, and you know it. Do you

1434
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 4: watch it? So you don't even believe it. This positive, positive,

1435
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 4: positive shit. Guess what Aba du Verney put out a

1436
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 4: bunch of shit. Y'all don't watch that ship, you know,

1437
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 4: like like like people do this, do the work that

1438
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 4: y'all quote unquote claim that you want, and then you

1439
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 4: do not watch it, nor do you support it.

1440
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: It's not the award shows. That's the problem. We don't

1441
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: award shit by our views. A lot of times, correct

1442
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: we we say we want things, but the truth is

1443
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: we don't. We want Tyler Perry, We're we're entertained by

1444
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: that stuff. We want to be on BMF. We want power.

1445
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: We like this is that's okay. This is why when

1446
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 2: we used to do the BT Award recap every year,

1447
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: and I remember there was a year where I finally

1448
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: told people, don't write in here anymore calling this show

1449
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 2: a shame or saying why we got to have this artist,

1450
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: Why can't all the artists do this? Because India already exists,

1451
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: and she's at the award show and she got her segment.

1452
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that whatever rapper doesn't get a

1453
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:36,520
Speaker 2: segment too. That's black too. We're not whatever whatever illusion

1454
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: of blackness you want to paint us as we're not that.

1455
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: We are a fully formed, three dimensional people that has

1456
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 2: ups and downs, flaws and triumphs, everything like any other

1457
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 2: race of people. And what what why we got to

1458
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 2: clean up the house like company coming over? Every time

1459
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: black people make something, it's a box. It's another box

1460
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: you're putting our creativity in. You're saying I can't paint

1461
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: with my pain. You're saying I can't be motivated by things.

1462
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: You're saying I can't be hurt, I can't have flaws,

1463
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 2: I can't Well, now, I'm just a fucking doll. I'm

1464
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: not a person anymore. Don't get a robot. So I

1465
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: think that's what a lot of people end up putting

1466
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 2: on ourselves. And I think right now, I know I

1467
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: sound contrarian a lot of times, but I'm not being contrarian.

1468
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 2: I am resistant and skeptical and cynical to almost all

1469
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: of these momentary mass like performance movements online. That's what

1470
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: it really is, when it's everyone needs to hate the

1471
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 2: Good Times trailer the same way, even you niggas who

1472
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 2: don't watch TV, right, you don't watch TV. Who gives

1473
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 2: a fuck if you're not gonna watch it, you don't

1474
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: watch shit. I don't like that. You know, when everybody's

1475
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: gotta have a take on Beyonce, I don't. I don't.

1476
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 2: It's not they can do it. I just don't feel

1477
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: the need to. I don't want to participate in the

1478
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: conversation with them because it's about something else. Yes, it's

1479
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 2: not really about that album anymore. It's about like, who

1480
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 2: can perform it the best, who can say they like

1481
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: it the most, who can say they hate it the most.

1482
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that part of it. And

1483
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 2: I think I've just become so jaded by how often

1484
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 2: I feel like that goes wrong. There's too many things

1485
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed that either A would not get. They would

1486
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 2: have been trashed out to jump now, but they just

1487
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: happen to get grandfather in before the Internet, such as

1488
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: like Boondocks. Yes, Boondock's original trailer would have been getting

1489
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:40,480
Speaker 2: the good Times treatment. Yes, I know motherfuckers are gonna disagree,

1490
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 2: but they only disagreeing because they've already seen Boondocks. They

1491
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,440
Speaker 2: don't have a time machine where we could go unsee Boondocks.

1492
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: Throw the first trailer out there, with the homophobia and

1493
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 2: the violence and the guns and the rap and the

1494
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 2: misogyny and then go, this is gonna be a great show. No,

1495
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 2: most of us would have been like, I don't know

1496
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 2: why they think black people got to be saying nigga

1497
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: all the time and pulling a pants sagging and talk

1498
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: about hip hop and and and and and being asside

1499
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 2: But then when you see the show, you're like, oh,

1500
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: there's layers and thought put into this. You know them

1501
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: another show that was great that black Twitter tried to

1502
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: destroy before it even came out. I think it's actually

1503
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 2: getting the season two. I'll be watching and they try

1504
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: to destroy it before it even came out. And I

1505
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: went and watched it was like, this was really smart

1506
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 2: and well done. This is not what you said it was.

1507
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 4: And another one truth be told is Lovecraft Country.

1508
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the reason.

1509
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 4: Why IM bringing that one up too, and me you

1510
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 4: kind of talked about this and it's somewhat frustrating these

1511
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 4: black people who write for white publications and everything black

1512
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 4: they hate. And so you know, it's one of those

1513
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 4: things where for that show, that show is a really

1514
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 4: really good show, and a lot of people literally try

1515
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 4: to tell that show down and critique it and tear

1516
01:19:58,439 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 4: it to pieces.

1517
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 5: And the thing thing is It's like for me, it.

1518
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 4: Could be very frustrating because we say we're not a

1519
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 4: mon left. We say we shee baby to do any

1520
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 4: and everything like like we say these things, but yet anytime,

1521
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 4: for a lot of people, anytime something comes out that

1522
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:21,520
Speaker 4: doesn't fit their bubble, they automatically rejected for various.

1523
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: Well, I have more to go because, like I'm seeing

1524
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: someone in the chat be like, well, I watched Boondocks

1525
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: and I would have loved it even if we had

1526
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 2: a time machine it just came out today. I love

1527
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: it because I would know cool. I also read the

1528
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: comics and all that shit too. Was looking forward to

1529
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 2: it because I read those comics. But I'm saying if

1530
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 2: the trailer just dropped, because that trailer was not like

1531
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 2: the comics, the comics were not all that hip hop

1532
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: and street and Nigga was never set in those fucking comics,

1533
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 2: so it would have had a contingent of black folks

1534
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 2: that was like this is an embarrassment and stereotypes period.

1535
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: The Good Times trailer that came out this week had

1536
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 2: a bunch of other stuff. One of the characters is

1537
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,759
Speaker 2: an activist. The one woman seems to be the wife

1538
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 2: seems to be like politically involved in like city council

1539
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 2: and shit. So clearly there's gonna be some threats. There's

1540
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: there's them pointing towards the macro issues within h white

1541
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: supremacy that lead to the problems that black people experience

1542
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: in poverty and cycles in the ghetto. It's in the trailer.

1543
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 2: I'm not making any of this up, but we said

1544
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:26,799
Speaker 2: drug dealing, baby, fuck this shit. Okay, what was Riley?

1545
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 2: What was right? Right, Riley? There's a there's a you

1546
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 2: know what you you you've done it. God damn it.

1547
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find that fucking rant that Riley did, the

1548
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: uncensored one where he where he's called saying the F

1549
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: word like seventeen times, and and that that was on TV,

1550
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: and like we were just we were just you know,

1551
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: we were like, oh, but it's okay. No one's like, man,

1552
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 2: this is some extremely home phobic, derogatory bullshit. No, we

1553
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: were cool with it because it got grandfathered in. But

1554
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:12,839
Speaker 2: we now are in a constant power on rage. Uh culture.

1555
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 2: This is the economy of rage. We are jumping on

1556
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 2: this shit and we and we don't we are trying

1557
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: to stomp shit out before people can even watch.

1558
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 5: It before they can consume it.

1559
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: And now the other two I was gonna name Blackish, Yeah,

1560
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 2: just from the fucking name. People were like, absolutely the

1561
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 2: fuck not I was wanting the people. Karen was one

1562
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 2: of them. Many people agreed Underground Snoop Dogg made a

1563
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: whole fucking thing off of just the announcement of the

1564
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: goddamn show. Oh bel Air, who asked for this. We

1565
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: don't need no remakes. We already had that.

1566
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 5: This ship is funny. Highest rating streaming shows.

1567
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: The Wonder Years, the Black Version, the updated one, and

1568
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 2: then be mad when the shit get canceled. Well, you

1569
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 2: hated the idea, right, you didn't want it so all,

1570
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: and we're complicated. I'm not saying these things as judgment

1571
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: as much as I'm saying this is why I'm sick

1572
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 2: of participating in the daily anger windmill that is just happening,

1573
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: or meal that is happening every day. I'm sick of it.

1574
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 2: So there's times where I just see it. They're gonna

1575
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 2: do their thing. I'm not gonna argue with them, I'm

1576
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 2: not gonna yell at them, not gonna rant about it online.

1577
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: They gotta do their thing. But if they can't see

1578
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 2: that cycle and that they're part of it, and that

1579
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 2: tomorrow they're gonna be mad again because they need to

1580
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 2: be mad. They don't realize. That's the part.

1581
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 5: It's an addition.

1582
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 2: They don't know. They don't they don't see like you're

1583
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. They just don't see it. And I

1584
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:42,560
Speaker 2: think that's a big part of it.

1585
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 4: In Confederacy, it didn't even get to come come out

1586
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 4: and exist because people just was just immediately angry about it,

1587
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 4: and uh, like, I know you talked about this at

1588
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,480
Speaker 4: the time, but a lot of people was mad with Watchmen.

1589
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 4: I think it was Watchmen, but with because because they

1590
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 4: was a Watchman.

1591
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what you're about to say.

1592
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 4: With Regina King and okay, yes, yes, yes, so it

1593
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 4: was Watchman.

1594
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 5: When that dropped, they didn't say anything.

1595
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: They just kind of just dropped it and it just

1596
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: played and everybody was like, this is the greatest shit

1597
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 2: ever and they watched this shit. Oh yeah, but but

1598
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 2: but yeah, they said they didn't want Watchmen. We already

1599
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 2: had a Watchman movie and all this shit. Don't nobody

1600
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: want to see this, blah blah blah. And then the

1601
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: second that they saw it is stard Regina King. It

1602
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: was made by a white man, Damion Lindeloff, who uh

1603
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 2: later would have exposed as in a chapter of a

1604
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 2: book written about how terrible of a showrunner and the

1605
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 2: Lost was and all this shit. But they loved it.

1606
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 2: They loved it so much to use it as a

1607
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 2: cudgel against the Black show right, uh and the Black

1608
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 2: show runner and uh and and uh Lovecraft country it was.

1609
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 2: It was a very ironic moment, as if both couldn't exist,

1610
01:24:55,640 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 2: and both of them ended up doing a Both both

1611
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 2: of those ended up doing Tosa episodes, both of us.

1612
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 5: Yes, they did.

1613
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 2: Yes, Lisha Green was supposed to never get a chance.

1614
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 2: No sequels, no no second, no second season. She's terrible,

1615
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: but Damon Lindelof was the god and needed all the awards.

1616
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Here's the here's Riley's speech. This was in

1617
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: boondocks for everybody that is like, nah, everybody would have

1618
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: loved it. We would have had no issues with this

1619
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: ship if it came out today. We had all been like, cool, hey,

1620
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 2: we know what this is about. No movie.

1621
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 6: The smart thing was to say yes, get up and

1622
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 6: leave the room. But then I thought to myself, what

1623
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 6: if this was the movie Look, fuck you, fuck the

1624
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 6: plane you flew in on. Fucked them shoes, fuck the

1625
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 6: socks with the bell on it. Fuck your gay ass

1626
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 6: fairy faggot accident. Fuck them cheap ass cigars. Fuck your

1627
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 6: yung mouth teeth, fuck your hair piece, fuck your chocolate.

1628
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 6: Fuck Guy Richie, fuck Prince William, Fuck the Queen. This

1629
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 6: is America. My president is black, for my lambo is blue. Nigga,

1630
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 6: I get the fucks down my hotel room, and if

1631
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 6: I see you on the street, I'm snapping the shit

1632
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 6: out of you.

1633
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 2: Not like good times at all, can't no, not even close.

1634
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 2: No one would ever be upset about that at all today.

1635
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 2: We would if we saw that clip before we ever

1636
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 2: saw an episode of Boon Dogs after reading the comics,

1637
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: we would have all been like, I can't wait for

1638
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: this positive depiction of black people to be put on

1639
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,799
Speaker 2: screen and animated form. It's a goddamn lie. We would

1640
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 2: not have maybe some of us would have. I would

1641
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: have because I'm that type of nigga that always give

1642
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,600
Speaker 2: people a chance to fuck up. So I'll watch it

1643
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: first and be like, hmm, okay, that was good. I

1644
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be different, or I'll watching them

1645
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: be like it was as bad as everybody said it was.

1646
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 2: I have no problem saying that. I don't want to

1647
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 2: join in a premature SmackDown on some shit for existing

1648
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 2: just the idea. I'm not scared of ideas, right, you know,

1649
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: people are so fucking scared the song's gonna have an

1650
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 2: idea that sparked something in them or something. I don't

1651
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen, but yeah, it's just it's I

1652
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: find it funny the revisionism that happens. And if you

1653
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: bring up ship like this, I'm not trying to be contrayered.

1654
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be grounded in a consistent reality and

1655
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 2: point of view I have. I find no value in

1656
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 2: jumping to historics, hysterics and the sky has fallen bullshit

1657
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: every fucking day. I just don't send what the point is.

1658
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 2: All Right, we we talked about that. I said it

1659
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: was gonna be a weird episode. I told you. I

1660
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 2: told you it was just it's been on my heart

1661
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 2: for a long time and I just wanted to talk

1662
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: about it. But let's do something funn before we get

1663
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: out of here. Okay, I didn't do this yesterday so

1664
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 2: we can do it today.

1665
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 3: The grammar for the grammar, the grammar.

1666
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: For the gm the doing it for the gram This

1667
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 2: week was worst relationship advice some one has ever given.

1668
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 5: You ain't tell where it's gonna go.

1669
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 2: Uh, those people like people get bad advice. I see

1670
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 2: what the ship people doing. I was like, oh, that's

1671
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: not too smart. Well let's see we got I don't

1672
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 2: know how many comments. It's got a few, though. Curby

1673
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: your Enthusiasm says, just be their piece. Nope, yeah, what

1674
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 2: when't to be be? I know there's be his piece.

1675
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: Now this appears to be a dude saying be their piece,

1676
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's a like people tell

1677
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 2: dudes this as well. I've always kind of assumed it

1678
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 2: was framed as a people tell women to do this

1679
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 2: for men, is what I've always at least that's the

1680
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,799
Speaker 2: joke I've always seen. It's like, just be his piece,

1681
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, don't bring up he cheating

1682
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: on you, or he come home with a break baby,

1683
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 2: just be his peace and just deal with it. But

1684
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: I guess maybe people are telling me in this too. Now.

1685
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: Lupine says, yes, you should marry him. Oh damn, that

1686
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 2: sounded like some did you get divorced? Like this? Like

1687
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 2: how would you know that was bad advice? Until Yeah, anyways,

1688
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 2: that sounds terrible. Uh, maybe you should try something new.

1689
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 2: Side side of emoje, he says, flicks chick g try

1690
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: something new. I guess.

1691
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if they happened in a relationship or

1692
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 4: they was talking to him and they was like, you

1693
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 4: should try something new.

1694
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it would just yeah, I don't know

1695
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 2: how that's bad yet. Yeah, it depends on like there's

1696
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 2: a lot Yeah, there's a lot of context. I could

1697
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 2: see try something new be good advice and you know,

1698
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: but I don't know. Maybe it's like a dude trying

1699
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 2: to get you to cheat and he's like you should

1700
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: try something, and it's like, Okay, that's bad. I don't know.

1701
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: Ms Barnes says, per my mother, he's a nice Christian

1702
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:04,799
Speaker 2: young man. Shaking my head, shaking my head, emogic. Yeah, listen, Okay,

1703
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 2: them Christian men got ways about him, they got some beliefs. Okay,

1704
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 2: they're not all the same. You never know, you never know,

1705
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 2: you never know. Okay for a kind of Christian what

1706
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 2: church you go to. Do you believe women should be

1707
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 2: seen not heard? You don't want you wearing pants?

1708
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 5: You believe women should be quiet?

1709
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, it could be a lot of it could

1710
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 2: be a lot that could go. You need to know

1711
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 2: exactly what his belief system is in that Christian. That

1712
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 2: guy's a loser. Ditch them. We've been married twenty three

1713
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 2: years and he's the best guy I know, says Mary.

1714
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 2: So somebody told her to ditch your future husband and

1715
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 2: they was wrong. Wrong a listen, you think they were

1716
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: waiting on something to happen, like thirty five years in.

1717
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: I said they got it time stamped. It took thirty

1718
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 1: five years for me to be right. I live long

1719
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: enough for today.

1720
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 2: Captain Ingenuity says, and no, I didn't do it. I

1721
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 2: value relationship and then my girlfriend way too much. Oh

1722
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't see the original. Yeah. DJ Job says,

1723
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,799
Speaker 2: treat them mean, keep them keen, biggest load of bullshit

1724
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 2: I ever heard. Yeah, that's bad. That's up there with

1725
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 2: the pimp like treat them like you beat them type bullshit,

1726
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 2: Like just because in rhyme, don't make it good advice.

1727
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 5: You know it, don't.

1728
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never got the whole like treat your spouse

1729
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 2: or your love when like mean or like, don't be

1730
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 2: too nice to him and ship. I'm like, nigga, that's

1731
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 2: the whole point.

1732
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 4: What ain't that Maybe I'm doing this shit wrong. I'm like, no, nigga,

1733
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 4: I treat me nicely.

1734
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 2: I like to come in the house and not be

1735
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 2: fighting the world no more.

1736
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 5: Ain't that truth? Your houseship?

1737
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 4: Every time I open up the door, I got to

1738
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 4: fight everything, and they mama bitch when I come home,

1739
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 4: I'm not fighting you two uh.

1740
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 2: He says, don't act interested, don't respond to messages in

1741
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 2: the timely manner. Oh yeah, that one of the reasons

1742
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 2: I said I don't think I would be able to

1743
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 2: be single right because I'm but y'all got these weird

1744
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 2: ass rules. I'm a love cornball. I don't know that

1745
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 2: you Oh no, don't after the date, don't don't hit

1746
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: up for three days. I don't know that. I'm like, hey,

1747
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 2: you get home yet? That was fun? You know, It's like, oh,

1748
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 2: this lose ass nigga.

1749
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 5: He's stalking me.

1750
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1751
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 5: I don't have time for that.

1752
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 2: I be by myself, sitting in the house listening to

1753
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,799
Speaker 2: soul music, soul. Child, that's that's me. Kerky Bella says

1754
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 2: they older men because they are more mature and don't

1755
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 2: play games. I didn't follow this advice. Yeah, because old

1756
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 2: single niggas be old and playing games sometimes too. Yeah,

1757
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 2: they just play a little bit different games than the

1758
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 2: young niggas, but they still there's a lot of old

1759
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 2: players from the Himalayas out here. Come on, you know,

1760
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: they just they just got treating women bad down to

1761
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 2: a science because they don't have a lot more practice

1762
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 2: than the young dudes. Ago says, played dumb because guys

1763
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 2: don't like it when you're smart. Advice not taken.

1764
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, dog, if you intimidated by my smartness, little bitch,

1765
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 4: we can't be together. That's a you problem, not a

1766
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 4: me problem. But a lot of women do do that,

1767
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 4: Like they really will dumb themselves down, just just destruct

1768
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 4: their man's ego.

1769
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 2: Child boo. I always felt like the need to be

1770
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 2: with somebody stupid does say something about you, like I

1771
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 2: need you to be stupid, you know, like I'm tired

1772
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 2: like you you know too many facts? You right? How

1773
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 2: dare you have a vagiant and be smarter than me?

1774
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 5: I'm a man.

1775
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 4: Nobody knows everything you out here reading and shit, all right,

1776
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 4: you got degrees and shit.

1777
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 2: Bitch D says, uh, date to marry. That was bad advice.

1778
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 2: Don't date to marry? Yeah, I don't what does that

1779
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 2: mean though? Date to marry? Like every oh is it?

1780
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 2: Like even on date one, you're putting pressure on the person,

1781
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 2: like is where is this going? We need to how

1782
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 2: many kids you want to have? Is that what it is?

1783
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 2: I don't know because I've not heard that advice before.

1784
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 2: You know, I think if you're looking to get married,

1785
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 2: then I guess date to marry. But oh, maybe that's

1786
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,799
Speaker 2: what it means is you can't have any casual dates

1787
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 2: or just dates of like I'm having fun. Everything gotta

1788
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 2: be for marriage to be the goal. I can see

1789
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 2: how that would be whack. It's Allison says them. If

1790
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 2: you don't, somebody else will me at twenty. Well, I

1791
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 2: guess I better me at forty? Okay, shrug emoji. Ain't

1792
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 2: that the truth?

1793
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1794
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 2: They always like, that's always a veiled threat to It's

1795
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: never said in a positive life. If you don't do it,

1796
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 2: somebody else will, Okay, then right then maybe they should

1797
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 2: be with them. I don't know. I ain't.

1798
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 5: Maybe we ain't meant to be.

1799
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 2: And mom says, never go to bed angry. Sometimes all

1800
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 2: I need to do is sleep on it. I'm not

1801
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 2: angry anymore by the morning, or I'm in better handspace

1802
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 2: to calmly explain my point of view. All right, I'm

1803
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 2: a never go to bed angry person. I wouldn't call

1804
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 2: that dating advice though. That feels more like make marriage

1805
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 2: and committed relationship advice. Oh wait, it did say relationship advice. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay,

1806
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 2: so yeah, I guess, yeah, I do subscribe to that

1807
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 2: relationship advice. I tried not to go to bed angry.

1808
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 4: If I can help it, Yeah, let's at least get

1809
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 4: to a place where it's like, okay, cool, all right,

1810
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 4: And I do understand sleeping on it and reprocessing it

1811
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 4: when you wake up in the morning.

1812
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 2: But that her I don't want.

1813
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 5: I can't go to sleep like that. Yeah, I can't.

1814
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 5: I can't risk.

1815
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 2: Also, like right now she's back in a thousand, But

1816
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 2: it only takes one time to stabbing this nigga to

1817
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 2: sleep that you'd be like, oh, I shouldn't have went

1818
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 2: to bed early. Just take one time. You only got

1819
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: to kill him once. That's only take wake up in

1820
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 2: the middle of the night, Like take that, and then like,

1821
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 2: oh you should have went to bed peaceful, Yes, peacefully?

1822
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

1823
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 2: Case Sower says, in my early twenties, I was really

1824
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 2: into this woman romantically. I didn't just want to hook up.

1825
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 2: I was trying to start a long term relationship with her.

1826
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 2: My roommate, who had a well earned reputation is extreme

1827
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 2: unscrublous person, told me I should go fuck one of

1828
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,799
Speaker 2: her friends so that her friend would tell her about

1829
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 2: me and that she want me Me and that woman

1830
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 2: never worked out, but I had, but it had everything

1831
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 2: to do with tom and I was on active duty

1832
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 2: and my deployments got in the way. And not because

1833
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 2: I didn't follow this advice. Uh yeah, I wouldn't follow that.

1834
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 2: That's a mold like MTV. Remember back in the late

1835
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 2: nineties early two thousands, MTV used to have these like

1836
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 2: sexy college drama shows and it was all just people

1837
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 2: hooking up and stuff. I forget the name of them,

1838
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 2: but they were like two or three of them, and

1839
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 2: they were corny. I couldn't get it to him. My friend,

1840
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 2: my roommate, John Candy, used to watch the hell out

1841
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 2: these shows he loved them, and it was all like Pg.

1842
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 2: Thirteen making out. It was like you never seen no

1843
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: titties or nothing. It was just like people kissing in

1844
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 2: the dorm room or something. But that's the kind of

1845
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 2: shit that would be on there. It's one of these

1846
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 2: fucking like you know, like, oh, fuck her roommate, and

1847
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 2: then her roommate don't say how good you aren't betting?

1848
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Then she don't want to be with you, and like

1849
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 2: that never has happened in life, not on purpose. As

1850
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 2: long as he doesn't hit you, you should stay with him,

1851
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 2: says Eve. Oh, that is some bad advice. Yeah, that's

1852
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 2: the floor. Yeah, and a lot of them be like, girl,

1853
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 2: he ain't beating you.

1854
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:19,759
Speaker 5: We need a little.

1855
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 2: Bit high in that now, right, that's the floor. At

1856
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 2: least he don't beat you. God damn, that's crazy.

1857
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 5: But some people believe in that.

1858
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark Maurice Na says, let's go to Diddy's house.

1859
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 2: What's the worst that could happen? Then no one gave

1860
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 2: you that relationship. Hilarious forget out of it. Chocolate Girl

1861
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 2: Wonder says, find someone who's into you more than you're

1862
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 2: into them, because they won't leave you. Don't do this.

1863
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,560
Speaker 2: It's unfair to both of you. She's put in parentheses,

1864
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 2: using sex as training, bargaining to I'm a woman of

1865
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 2: a certain age, and this was wildly conventional wisdom in quotes. Yeah,

1866
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 2: that first one is definitely weird of like, find someone

1867
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 2: more into you than that you are to them. Definitely

1868
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 2: feels because that's like a purposeful choice you be making.

1869
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 4: A lot of times people do that. A lot of

1870
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 4: advice people give people is, you know, kind of project yourself.

1871
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,640
Speaker 4: Always have an exit, like you don't want to be

1872
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 4: out there looking stupid like type of like some of

1873
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 4: this advice going, well, let me let me fuck it up,

1874
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 4: so you know, whenever they come out and they be cheating,

1875
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 4: I did it too for I did it first type

1876
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 4: of shit.

1877
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 2: I feel like that's also how you get stalked. Yes, yeah,

1878
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 2: like I wanted somebody that loved me harder than I

1879
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 2: love them, and they'd be like, I love you so hard.

1880
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be at your house. I'ma be outside knocking

1881
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: on your window. I just want to watch you sleep

1882
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 2: like I'm good.

1883
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 5: I'm standing over you as you sleep.

1884
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 2: Girl, your tongue weast says, leave him because he doesn't

1885
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 2: have a car and can't take you on a Sunday drive.

1886
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 2: Here we are at twenty three plus years, married, three

1887
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 2: amazing grown kids, two houses, seven cars like the Meanwhile,

1888
01:38:54,439 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 2: this friend is a distant memory. And then someone said, oh,

1889
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 2: and then I can't see oh. Someone replied, haw ha.

1890
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 2: He rode that bike everywhere, so it must be a

1891
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: friend that knows her, and then replied he is a gem.

1892
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 4: Also, the prince they was dating didn't have a car

1893
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 4: and sting. I was like, girl, ain't got no car.

1894
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 5: And they was like it didn't matter.

1895
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1896
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of that kind of stuff

1897
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 2: is overstated. But as you get older, it matters, I

1898
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 2: think more because then you get cause there's a certain

1899
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 2: age you cross somewhere. It's like, how are you this

1900
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 2: age and you don't have a means of transportation or

1901
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: how to get around places. And I don't mean like

1902
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Speaker 2: you live in New York. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1903
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 2: there's certain things where I could I get it at

1904
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Speaker 2: a certain age. But when you're young, especially, it just

1905
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 2: feels like people are saying up, especially now with the

1906
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 2: way society is set up.

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Speaker 4: With jack yeah, and that they've done studies. They said

1908
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 4: more and more adult parents have children like living with

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01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 4: them until they're like in their thirties.

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Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, that makes sense.

1911
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Speaker 4: And y'all know what in other countries, it's like that,

1912
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Speaker 4: Like in other countries, people who live with their parents

1913
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 4: till they get older. You know, here in America, we

1914
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 4: like get at the house as soon as possible.

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Speaker 2: Rasdale says, basically, all the Surrendered Wife book and the

1916
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 2: idea that I should be led by my husband, that

1917
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 2: my needs are secondary what the church taught me about

1918
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 2: marriage with self damaging and ridiculous.

1919
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Speaker 5: I feel, y'all I agree.

1920
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Speaker 2: Stay married for the children says, of course, I look tired.

1921
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:25,560
Speaker 2: That's the name of their account. Stay married for the children. No,

1922
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 2: I did not do this because one of the best

1923
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 2: things I could do for my children to show them

1924
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 2: though they deserve to be happy. I don't want them

1925
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 2: growing up in a home that would have been progressively

1926
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 2: becoming more emotionally unhealthy. And I for sure don't want

1927
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 2: them internalizing the message that they should stay with someone

1928
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,719
Speaker 2: out of social or familiar obligation, even if it means

1929
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:46,560
Speaker 2: sacrificing their mental health and overall happiness.

1930
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and people think children are stupid. People gotta to

1931
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 4: do for the kids. No, you don't do for the kids.

1932
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 4: The kids know that y'all not happy. Yep Like people

1933
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 4: act like kids can't pick up on content. They know

1934
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 4: y'all not fucking They know y'all don't get loan. They

1935
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 4: know y'all arguing like kids up on shit. Children are

1936
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 4: not stupid, So you might as well go hand and

1937
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 4: separate and let everybody go through the process and move

1938
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 4: on and let everybody live happier lives. Kids will probably

1939
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 4: be happier because I'll be like, thank god, y'all didn't

1940
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 4: get a long. Yeah.

1941
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 2: One of the things I always find interesting about to

1942
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 2: do it for the kids talking point is it's never

1943
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 2: like do it for the kids, go to therapy, recommit

1944
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 2: yourself to the marriage, become get happy, and fix your lives.

1945
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 2: It's like, no, be miserable, but at least you're in

1946
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 2: the same house for the kids. Yes, It's never like.

1947
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, if you're not gonna do that first thing,

1948
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 4: never like it's not worth it.

1949
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 2: It's never fixed the marriage for the kids. It's always like,

1950
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 2: just be in the house in proximity. That'll fix. That's

1951
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 2: close enough. Like. It's kind of funnyhen you think about it.

1952
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 2: Tequila Shot twenty twenty one says, when it comes to women,

1953
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 2: be careful. That's the only advice regarding women relationships. The

1954
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 2: Late Pops ever, gaily be careful. Wonder what that means.

1955
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 2: Never discuss anything else about women, cars, work, cutting grass, yes, maybe,

1956
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 2: but be maybe be careful. Related to the fact that

1957
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 2: I was one of seven kids, wrap it up, I

1958
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 2: can see that. Uh m GB says, just have a kid,

1959
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 2: that will solve everything. Luckily I got away baby free. Yeah,

1960
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 2: good grief. Yeah, anytime you're having problems, just like, throw

1961
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 2: a kid on top of this. It's crazy to me?

1962
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 5: Is he Christian?

1963
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 2: Rolling my eyes? Actually a deal breaking for me, says

1964
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 2: Terry t Mars Are Mars nine or Niner says, always

1965
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 2: be late when you're meeting up so she doesn't think

1966
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 2: that you're desperate. Last I heard that guy was still

1967
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 2: single because he was late, right. And lastly, don't have

1968
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 2: sex too soon. He will only want you for one thing.

1969
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, i'mna be honest. If they're that kind

1970
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 2: of god, they're gonna only want you for one thing

1971
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 2: whenever they gets Yeah, it's really more like that after

1972
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 2: the sex, they only want you for one thing. That's

1973
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 2: the problem anyway. Also, what if you only want them

1974
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 2: for one thing? I don't know. That's a lot. Yeah,

1975
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 2: I hete Uh it's me think, says thinking back, this

1976
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 2: guy played Donelle Jones where I want to be was

1977
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 2: nasty work. I had to peace out. At least he

1978
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 2: wasn't playing that. Carl Thomas, Oh no, Uh. Captain Genuity says,

1979
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 2: find someone local to mess around with. That long distant

1980
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 2: relationship can't be that serious. That is bad advice, you know.

1981
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 2: And I get having multiple like relationships if that's what

1982
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 2: you're on. But if I don't, I never really. I mean, look,

1983
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,759
Speaker 2: it's not for me to say, but it feels weird

1984
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 2: to sabotage relationship on purpose. If if you're happy and

1985
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 2: it's long distance and you're you want to commit yourself

1986
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 2: to it fully, I don't know why someone would give

1987
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 2: you the advice of like, don't don't do that if

1988
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 2: you're if that's what's making you happy, do what's making

1989
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 2: you happy. All right, that's it for doing it for the.

1990
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:12,719
Speaker 3: Ram a grammar, the grammar, the grammar.

1991
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 2: And uh, we're gonna do soword ratchiness and wrap it up.

1992
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 2: I told you just be a meandering, windy, weird episode.

1993
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 2: But hopefully you guys enjoyed it and I got something

1994
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 2: from it. I'm not a I got something from it.

1995
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. I really wanted to get that off

1996
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 2: my chest about black art and about uh trauma and

1997
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 2: pain and and using it and uh and how vulnerability

1998
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 2: is the most powerful thing we got and uh and

1999
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 2: no one can never can never shame you for something

2000
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 2: you already know about yourself. All right, let's go to

2001
01:44:50,840 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 2: a sword ratchetness man. There's a lot going on in

2002
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 2: this headline. Uh here here, here we go Samurai sword

2003
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 2: slasher jailed for wounding pregnant woman and Fife Boxing day

2004
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:26,839
Speaker 2: loud music complaint.

2005
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,679
Speaker 5: That is a lot happening in that sentence.

2006
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 2: There's several questions just from the fucking a headline. A

2007
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 2: Fife man, So, I guess Fife is a location? Okay,

2008
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 2: that makes what is five Boxing day?

2009
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 4: Me?

2010
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 2: Right? I was like this overseas, right, I know Boxing

2011
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,799
Speaker 2: Day is like Christmas for Canada.

2012
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 5: Yeah for Canada.

2013
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 2: Well, I guess in Fife is now March twenty ninth.

2014
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 2: A Fife man who slashed the pregnant one with a samurai.

2015
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 2: So why would you slash a pregnant woman when a

2016
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 2: samurai saw that the loud music complaint has in jail? Oh?

2017
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 2: Maybe because who's complaint. John McHale's victim was left with

2018
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 2: a slash wound to two of her fingers where she

2019
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 2: stepped between him and her partner, who had just been

2020
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 2: to the neighbor's daughter complain about the noise. Oh. So

2021
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 2: the pregnant woman's partner went to the to this guy

2022
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 2: to go, hey, can you turn your music down? And

2023
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 2: then this dude pulls out a sword. She gets between

2024
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 2: him he cuts to her fingers. She has suffered psychological

2025
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 2: effects as well as permanent scar because of the Boxing

2026
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 2: Day twenty twenty one incident in Ossian Crescent Mattil Oh,

2027
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 2: so this was from twenty twenty one, So who knows

2028
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 2: what day this was? It must have been maybe it

2029
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 2: is around Christmas. McHale twenty six earlier playered guilty to

2030
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 2: an amended charge of culpability and recklessly striking the pregnant

2031
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 2: woman on the hand to her severe injury, permanent disfigurement,

2032
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 2: and permanent impairment. Sheriff Stephen Borthwick told him the harmy

2033
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,639
Speaker 2: caused that woman was very significant and profound, and jailed

2034
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 2: them for sixteen months. Prosecutor Eve mckaig told the court

2035
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 2: that around five am on December twenty sixth okay, so

2036
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:09,760
Speaker 2: it was around Christmas am right, twenty twenty one, the

2037
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 2: victim and her partner were walking from loud music from

2038
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 2: the home of a neighbor. Yet you're an asshole. It's

2039
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,719
Speaker 2: five in the morning and you're doing this. The woman,

2040
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 2: fruitlessly baiting on the living room door, sent text to

2041
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 2: Michael's father and brother and phone the house. Her partner

2042
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 2: went to the man's door around six thirty am. He

2043
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 2: answered and the argument started. The woman her shout and

2044
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 2: went downstairs to investigate. She saw the accused hold of

2045
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:31,759
Speaker 2: what was she believed to be a pole. Due to his limb,

2046
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 2: the object was raised in the air. The woman, concerned

2047
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,560
Speaker 2: for the man, whose back was turned. Oh, he was

2048
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 2: gonna do it in the back, attempted to stand between

2049
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,679
Speaker 2: him and the accused. She stayed, I'm pregnant and reached

2050
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 2: her hands up to prevent him swinging towards the man.

2051
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 2: She then felt the pain in her left edd which

2052
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 2: began to bleed. The man, upon hearing her shout, you

2053
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 2: have just cut my hand, turned towards the accused and

2054
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 2: saw him running back towards his father's address and possession

2055
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,879
Speaker 2: of a sword. She said the woman needed an operation

2056
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 2: for tending damage and had to remain wait their surgery

2057
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 2: due to the fact she was pregnant. Oh oh man

2058
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:10,679
Speaker 2: an alternative to prison referd of victim impact statement. Sheriff

2059
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 2: Borthwick said it's not only physical injuries she struggles with,

2060
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 2: but profound affects them for mental health. He also he

2061
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 2: also highlighted Michael's significant records of previous convictions. Uh, he

2062
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:25,639
Speaker 2: had it. There's no alternative but a custodial sentence. Okay.

2063
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 2: So it was okay, I see what it's saying. They

2064
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 2: were considering alternatives to put him in jail, and he

2065
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 2: said the sheriff said, no, this motherfucker's done too much shit.

2066
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 4: Oh he got a prior record. We are not going lightly.

2067
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 4: He's like, give him all the month.

2068
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 2: He needs jail. Right.

2069
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 3: Uh.

2070
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 2: The lawyer said it is accepted his client did not

2071
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 2: mean to hurt anyone. Okay, what you are a lawyer

2072
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 2: and I'm assuming that's your job. That's what you got.

2073
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 2: That's the lie.

2074
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 4: But I mean, I mean she had to jumped in.

2075
01:48:58,360 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 4: He just slashed that dude in the back.

2076
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,640
Speaker 2: Right, when have we swung swords that didn't mean to

2077
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 2: hurt people?

2078
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 1: Uh?

2079
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 2: You Ronnie kinshin out this motherfucker? You got the reverse sword?

2080
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:07,720
Speaker 4: Right?

2081
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 2: The emphasis and nigga, I hit bunk guy and what's

2082
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 2: up right? Anime references drink thought you made it through

2083
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,879
Speaker 2: the whole show, didn't you not? That'll be two shots.

2084
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 2: If he was smart, he'd a flash stepped away.

2085
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 5: Three shots.

2086
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 2: Don't try to kill him, Karen. You don't have them

2087
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 2: out there with their throng out playing in the parking lot.

2088
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:31,839
Speaker 2: I hope not emphasizes his circumstances have improved since Decemmer

2089
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, when he was drinking too much and

2090
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 2: taking drugs. The difference between twenty twenty one and today

2091
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 2: is stark. His attitude to this offense is appropriate. He

2092
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 2: was what appears to be significant. He has what appears

2093
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 2: to be significant remorse towards the complainer. I don't like

2094
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 2: the word complainer there, complainer. I'm sure it's me looking

2095
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 2: too far into it, but I'm like I'm not a complainer.

2096
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 2: That's probably some English shit they say over there, because

2097
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not complaining. You cut on fucking hand

2098
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 2: off and so complaining. Who's complaining? You committed a crime? Why?

2099
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 4: Why?

2100
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:15,640
Speaker 2: Why? I need all my fwingers? Oh psychological darmy, we

2101
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 2: baby going quiet? All right, that's it. Thanks for listening, everybody.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate y'all. We'll be back throughout the week. Hopefully

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01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 2: enjoyed this. Leave comments on our website, leave us five

2104
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 2: star reviews, voting the polls and all that other stuff. Man,

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Speaker 2: until next time, I love you.

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Speaker 3: Why