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Speaker 2: All right, Joining us now is Democratic Congressman Johnny Oshewski

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Speaker 2: Johnny Oh as David Gura likes to call you, it

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Speaker 2: is CHERI except call an elected representative. He serves on

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Speaker 2: the Foreign Affairs and Small Business Commedies.

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Speaker 5: Sir, thank you for joining us. I just want to

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm hoping you're getting more information than we

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Speaker 2: are about what is in this MoU. Are you getting

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Speaker 2: any more information and could you share any of it

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Speaker 2: with us this morning?

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Speaker 6: Well, good morning, and Johnny is always welcomed both for

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Speaker 6: you all in my constituents. But you know, this morning

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Speaker 6: I have to report I'm sorry to say that I

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Speaker 6: don't have more information than what's being publicly reported. And

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Speaker 6: as a member of Congress, as a member of the

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Speaker 6: Foreign Affairs Committee, I'm actually getting very little information about

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Speaker 6: the MoU I've seen nothing, I've heard nothing from the

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Speaker 6: administration or from my Republican colleagues as to what it

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Speaker 6: might actually include. This is now the fortieth time though

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Speaker 6: the President has announced a deal or a deal for

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Speaker 6: a deal, so you can color me skeptical that we

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Speaker 6: might actually get this done. I'm really worried when I

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Speaker 6: see that Iran is questioning whether or not the deal

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Speaker 6: is finalized or when they're going to sign it. So, unfortunately,

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Speaker 6: I don't have any information I can share that's already

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Speaker 6: that's not already been publicly reported by you and others.

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Speaker 3: We see the President upset with comparisons to the JCPOA.

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Speaker 3: I want to look at the other side of that coin,

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Speaker 3: and I wonder if you, as a Democratic congressman, are

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Speaker 3: agreed to here is something that, at least in broad strokes,

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Speaker 3: resembles that deal that was put in place by the

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, look the JCPOA was not perfect, but it certainly

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Speaker 6: put constraints on the Iranian nuclear program. And it would

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Speaker 6: be a really big shame to go through all of

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Speaker 6: this process of having prices up at the gas station

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Speaker 6: with the JCPOA.

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Speaker 7: We got to.

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Speaker 6: Remember that the President Trump came in tore up that agreement,

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Speaker 6: which actually accelerated the nuclear program in Iran that led

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Speaker 6: I don't want to see Iran become a nuclear capable country,

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Speaker 5: The President is heading after this spectacle.

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Speaker 2: Well eightieth birthday party, eighth Birthday party, cage match on

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Speaker 2: and this comes on some reports, especially the New York Times,

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Speaker 2: The Times is reporting this includes in addition to those

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Speaker 5: Do we know why that's happening?

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Speaker 2: And are you concerned about us pulling out of European

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Speaker 8: I think both things can be true.

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Speaker 7: At the same time.

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Speaker 6: Europe and other countries around the world obviously should be

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Speaker 3: Can I ask you a kind of off the wall

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Speaker 8: How that's affecting business in your neck of the woods.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look at the Port of Baltimore has had record years,

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Speaker 6: and I'm proud to represent the Baltimore area. Fortunately, we

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Speaker 6: but we could spend tens of billions of dollars with

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Speaker 6: no problem for a war. We have billions of dollars

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Speaker 6: my constituents are frustrated that they see this war being exercised.

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Speaker 6: We're not seeing a conclusion to it. It's as unpopular

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Speaker 6: as that's happening. You mentioned the UFC fight. I mean,

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Speaker 6: this is one of many instances where President Trump has

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Speaker 2: When you look at what the president says, he's trying

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Speaker 2: to us from a very very empty venue in Geneva,

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Speaker 2: the Strait will be immediately open following this. I want

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Speaker 2: whether or not these shipping companies, these maritime officers and

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Speaker 2: durability of this agreement, especially that it's got a second

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a very real concern that you

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Speaker 6: one because I just unfortunately, I've seen this president saying

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's sort of been lie after lie. So

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Speaker 6: it's hard to take the President as his word on

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Speaker 8: But I'm hoping it does.

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Speaker 3: God about a minute left when you're in the end

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Speaker 3: of the Supreme Court term. Got twenty other opinions we're

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Speaker 3: waiting on here. You've put forward the Roebant suggesting there

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Speaker 3: Pete Buddah, judge former secretary talking about that this week

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and I welcome Secretary Buddha Jedge's support. I know

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Speaker 6: Governor Dasher recently came out in favor of our proposal,

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Speaker 6: and so we're really seeing not just national figures, but

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Speaker 6: this is something overwhelmingly supported by Americans of all political variety.

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Speaker 6: Over seventy five percent of Democrats, Republicans independent support these

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Speaker 6: term limits for justices. We're seeing these rulings that are

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Speaker 6: undoing decades of precedents. While there are incredibly awful ethical

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Speaker 6: I hope we all can get behind.

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Speaker 3: Hareksman, Thank you very much, Johnny CHEFSKT joining us, Johnny, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Right, let's head back to where I believe, I believe

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Speaker 2: we have Bloomberg. Senior White House correspondent Josh Wingrove, Josh,

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Speaker 2: it's so lovely.

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Speaker 5: To see you.

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Speaker 9: Good morning. I'm sorry, but.

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Speaker 2: It is not always so magical. We're glad we got

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Speaker 2: So we're trying to figure out what is actually going on.

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Speaker 2: I had Midia sources telling me. They were heading your direction,

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Speaker 2: looking at venues ready to set up this signing ceremony.

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Speaker 2: Now we're hearing it could possibly be a digital ceremony.

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Speaker 2: Do we think this is something that will be happening

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Speaker 9: I mean, it seems like anything in person is off

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Speaker 9: nothing happen in Geneva right now. So there's nothing but

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Speaker 9: even the virtual signing. There are questions about that today

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Speaker 9: but whether that will happen, you should know today is

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Speaker 9: zadi if and it doesn't look like that will necessarily materialize.

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Speaker 9: Although we have radio silence right now from the Americans,

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Speaker 9: let me just respond to a couple of them. It's

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Speaker 9: absolutely true, at least from the press perspective, that we

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Speaker 2: All right, Josh, wein Grove Area an interview with you, Josh,

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Speaker 8: Exceeded You've met all of them.

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Speaker 9: Buddy, well good because there's no one else here to do.

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Speaker 5: I hope you find some friends and your very lovely.

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Speaker 9: Compensation that may or may not of materialized. Sorry, missus

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Speaker 9: Wingrove for coming to Geneva early.

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Speaker 5: Listen. I googled it.

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Speaker 2: It is a one hour very scenic drive along loche

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Speaker 9: So that's true.

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Speaker 8: That's not a large show.

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Speaker 5: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Right after this, all right, the Knicks did it, as

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Speaker 8: Is describing joining us this morning?

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Speaker 3: put this in context, Christina. Interesting the kind of historical

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Speaker 8: This was a team that had an okay regular season.

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Speaker 11: I'm proud to say that I did stay up last night.

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Speaker 11: Not many things that have made me regret leaving New

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Speaker 4: come back, We get knocked down, we come back up again.

440
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Speaker 4: Is that kind of the reason why this resonated so

441
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Speaker 4: much too with people in New York.

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Speaker 12: I think it's definitely one of the reasons that everyone

443
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Speaker 12: in New York kind of got behind this team in

444
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Speaker 12: such a big, big way. I think when you look

445
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Speaker 12: at the wins, when you look at the come behind victories,

446
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Speaker 12: I think it's one of the reasons why actually a

447
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 12: lot of people outside of New York, you know, became

448
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Speaker 12: on the Knick side throughout this tournament and throughout the finals,

449
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Speaker 12: throughout the playoffs because of the way that they were

450
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Speaker 12: able to grind out these wins.

451
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Speaker 5: I think it was a perfect representation of New York.

452
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Speaker 12: And I think that everyone in New York, you know,

453
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Speaker 12: was able to get behind the team. I think, like

454
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Speaker 12: Evan was saying, we've seen other championships recently, but the

455
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Speaker 12: thing with the Knicks is a lot of people in

456
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Speaker 12: this city this is their team. We really have one team,

457
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Speaker 12: one basketball team. The Nets are obviously in Brooklyn, but

458
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Speaker 12: they're sort of new So I think that this for

459
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Speaker 12: the city of New York was everyone was behind this

460
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Speaker 12: one team and they really really truly represented the city

461
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Speaker 12: in a way we haven't really seen in a long time.

462
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Speaker 2: It's been it's been really interesting to walk around, you know,

463
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Speaker 2: I'm new to the city and just to see people

464
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Speaker 2: no matter where you go, this is what they've been

465
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Speaker 2: talking about it and just across socioeconomic levels, cultures, language barriers,

466
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Speaker 2: people like understand go Nicks, It's been awesome.

467
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Speaker 8: You bought a jersey for your dog.

468
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Speaker 5: I did buy a jersey dog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

470
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm fully bandwagoning, but it was cute. Everyone I

471
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Speaker 5: wanted right like I wanted to. I should have brought

472
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Speaker 5: them on set anyway, all right, Evan, I do want.

473
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Speaker 2: To ask you I went to school in Texas. My

474
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Speaker 2: roommate was a huge Spurs fan. I imagine they are not

475
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Speaker 2: feeling great today. It kind of seemed a bit of

476
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Speaker 2: a FATA company after going down three to one, did

477
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Speaker 2: they have a chance to come back? And then you

478
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Speaker 2: saw Victim Wmanyanna talking about this was a I think

479
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Speaker 2: that is the biggest learning moment of his life. He's

480
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Speaker 2: only twenty two. What's next for him?

481
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I think in some ways this is

482
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Speaker 11: a little ahead of schedule for the Spurs. They had

483
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Speaker 11: one of the youngest teams in the NBA and they

484
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Speaker 11: beat the thunder who a lot of people thought were

485
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Speaker 11: going to kind of cruise their way to the NBA title.

486
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Speaker 11: This was a dream matchup for the NBA to get

487
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Speaker 11: the Knicks on one side a fifty three year title

488
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Speaker 11: drought in the biggest city in the country, and then

489
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Speaker 11: on the other side, get to showcase a young twenty

490
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Speaker 11: two year old superstar who is going to be the

491
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Speaker 11: face of this league, one of the faces of this

492
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Speaker 11: league for the next decade plus. I think both of

493
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Speaker 11: those things work out well. I think if you're the Spurs,

494
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Speaker 11: you learn a lot from this. It was clear that

495
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Speaker 11: some of these players were early in their career. Even

496
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Speaker 11: if you're not a basketball fan, I think you saw

497
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Speaker 11: that towards the end of these games in this past week.

498
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Speaker 11: But I think if you're a head of schedule for

499
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Speaker 11: the Spurs, you still have one of the most dominant

500
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Speaker 11: and freakish athletes maybe the NBA has ever seen, and

501
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Speaker 11: getting these reps when he's twenty two probably makes him

502
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Speaker 11: better when he's twenty four twenty five.

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Speaker 5: You forget so these players are.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean see as you forget how young these

505
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Speaker 2: players are because we've seen them for years and they

506
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: just read so much older, especially when they're in these

507
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Speaker 2: press conferences.

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Speaker 5: But like twenty two, come.

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Speaker 13: On, and he's now Victor.

510
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Speaker 11: We've been hearing about for for it feels like for

511
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Speaker 11: a decade, almost right, because he's been a prospect for

512
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Speaker 11: so long.

513
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Speaker 8: But yeah, it does. It does highlight how.

514
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Speaker 11: Much more basketball we're going to see him play over

515
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Speaker 11: the next ten to fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: Vanessa, let me come back to you mentioned the Nets.

517
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Speaker 3: I live close to the Barkley Center. This is kind

518
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Speaker 3: of like the sad side story here. The fact that

519
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Speaker 3: this win I think has coalesced a lot of New

520
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Speaker 3: York around the Knicks, and I sort of wonder where

521
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Speaker 3: it leaves the Nets, who have been I don't want

522
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Speaker 3: to say suffering, but really having a bad run of

523
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Speaker 3: it here in recent seasons.

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Speaker 12: You know, the thing about the Nets is, like, like

525
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Speaker 12: I mentioned, they're decently new to New York City. You know,

526
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Speaker 12: they came within you know, the last fourteen years. They're

527
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Speaker 12: not new to the NBA. They came with a lot

528
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Speaker 12: of you know, history in New Jersey. But the thing

529
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Speaker 12: is they kind of left that history behind actually in

530
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Speaker 12: the way that they marketed team, So they don't have

531
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Speaker 12: as many natural New York fans as they would probably like,

532
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Speaker 12: and they have had a hard recent years when they

533
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Speaker 12: did have you know, these generational players Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant,

534
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 12: James Harden they had a few years ago and it

535
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 12: didn't pan out for them really at all. What truly

536
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Speaker 12: probably one of the worst outcomes you could probably have

537
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Speaker 12: with players like that. You know, they're behind and I

538
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Speaker 12: don't know if it really is a story. You don't

539
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Speaker 12: need to compare them necessarily. They are obviously in the

540
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Speaker 12: same city, so people will do. But this is really

541
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Speaker 12: about the Knicks victory. I think that the Nets they

542
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Speaker 12: will prevail. But I think the good thing for the

543
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 12: Nets owners Joe and Clara Ussai, is that they had

544
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Speaker 12: a winner in the New York Liberty that long ago.

545
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Speaker 4: Evan, I want to go to you about the future

546
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Speaker 4: of the team. I mean, Jalen Brunson, MVP, a great

547
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Speaker 4: leader for the team. So many of them together like

548
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Speaker 4: a big family. You heard James Dolan talking about them,

549
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Speaker 4: you know, saying we're going to bring another championship backs

550
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Speaker 4: not going to be the last one. You won't have

551
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Speaker 4: to wait that long. What does the future of the

552
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: team look like.

553
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Speaker 5: I know trades are part.

554
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Speaker 1: Of the game.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I think that if you keep this

556
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Speaker 11: core together, I think the future is probably very bright.

557
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Speaker 11: As we said at the beginning of the show, this

558
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 11: was not a roster that at the beginning of the playoffs,

559
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 11: everyone said, oh this is a this is going to

560
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Speaker 11: be a championship roster. So I think you have the

561
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Speaker 11: ability to bring pieces in. It's New York, it's Madison

562
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Speaker 11: Square Garden. All of the kind of aura around this

563
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 11: team will make it easier to bring other players in. Personally,

564
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Speaker 11: I'm more interested in the ownership future of the team.

565
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Speaker 11: There's a lot of changes underway at Madison Square Garden Sports.

566
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Speaker 11: As you guys know, there's a potential split between the

567
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Speaker 11: Rangers and the Knicks. There is increasing chatter that the

568
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Speaker 11: Dolan family may end up selling one of those two teams.

569
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Speaker 11: That that has been rumored on and off, I feel

570
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Speaker 11: like for the past twenty years. But yeah, as sports

571
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Speaker 11: team valuations, the Lakers just sold for ten billion dollars.

572
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Speaker 11: The Knicks following this championship would probably sell for quite

573
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Speaker 11: a bit more. And even with the recent stock surge,

574
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Speaker 11: the public markets don't value the Nicks in the same

575
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Speaker 11: way that I think a private transaction would. So I'm

576
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Speaker 11: very curious to see if this championship does anything to

577
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Speaker 11: change the trajectory and honestly, what that trajectory is for

578
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Speaker 11: what Jim Dolan is thinking about in the medium or

579
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Speaker 11: longer term for the ownership of the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let me pick up on that. I think

581
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Speaker 3: that's so fascinating. So Jim Dolan presiding over a lot

582
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Speaker 3: of different companies. Here, there's Madison Square gardt Entertainment and sports,

583
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Speaker 3: and then there's this sphere which I think has been

584
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Speaker 3: attracting a lot of his time and attention and I

585
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 3: should say, has done very well this year as well.

586
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Speaker 3: So he's presiding over a live different enterprises that have

587
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: had a real run here. What is the calculus that

588
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Speaker 3: he's going through here? I can imagine him standing on

589
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Speaker 3: that stage, bathing in the adulation of all of these

590
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Speaker 3: New York fans. That's kind of novel for him. It's

591
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Speaker 3: not what he experienced at the beginning of his tenures

592
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Speaker 3: that are owning the team. Perhaps that might compel him,

593
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: might think to kind of stick with the next going forward.

594
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Speaker 8: What's he going to be thinking through here in the

595
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Speaker 8: month's d Yeah.

596
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Speaker 11: I think one of the things this split does is

597
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 11: it makes it easier to bring on kind of a

598
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 11: big chunk of outside capital for either of these teams.

599
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 11: And as you guys know, that has basically been one

600
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 11: of the biggest business stories in American sports in the

601
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 11: last five years, is that all these leagues have changed

602
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Speaker 11: their rules. You can now bring on institutional capital that

603
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 11: can own, depending on the league, something between thirty and

604
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Speaker 11: ten percent or zero percent of your team. And what

605
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 11: we've seen in a few other times is that there's

606
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Speaker 11: you start down that road and you start looking at valuation,

607
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 11: and you start talking to people, owners' institutions, and then

608
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 11: you think, you know what, like, what would it look

609
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 11: like if we saw this whole thing? And then suddenly

610
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 11: a small transaction turns into a much bigger one. So

611
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Speaker 11: I think, on its face, I think he's trying to

612
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 11: keep his options open. But again, as these team valuations soar,

613
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Speaker 11: it doesn't seem impossible to me to think that at

614
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Speaker 11: some point and maybe at some point soon decides to

615
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 11: sell one of these teams. I have no clue which

616
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 11: one that would be. I think you could make an

617
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 11: argument for one or the other. The Knicks are certainly

618
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 11: more valuable than the Rangers. I think some people might

619
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 11: say the Rangers are more undervalued than the Knicks are

620
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 11: in terms of the markets. But the constant kind of

621
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Speaker 11: changing around of what MSG and its sister companies and

622
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 11: parent companies, the constant stock splits, et cetera, I think

623
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Speaker 11: have gotten us to a point now where ten years

624
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 11: ago it would have been very hard to sell the Knicks.

625
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 11: And once this stock split, if it does happen and

626
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 11: the Knicks basically become a separate, publicly traded company, it

627
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 11: becomes way easier to sell the Knicks.

628
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Speaker 2: And that's not lost on me, Vanessa before we let

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Speaker 2: you go ticker tape parade.

630
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Speaker 5: We're doing our own version of here like I.

631
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Speaker 8: Got for the ticker tape raide.

632
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Speaker 5: This this is not my best skill. I'm not sure

633
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 5: where my best skill is, but this is not it.

634
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 8: Time to practice a few days.

635
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Speaker 2: I've never attended a ticker tape parade. I don't know

636
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: if you have. What should folks expect? And how big

637
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: is this city going to throw a ranger around Thursday.

638
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 12: The last ticker tape raid I I've been to was

639
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 12: the one for the New York Liberty in twenty twenty four.

640
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 12: Listen this, the city showed out. Then people come out.

641
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 12: You know, they've come out of work, they get out

642
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 12: of school. And this I mean the city hasn't seen

643
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 12: a championship in fifty three years. For the Knicks, they

644
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 12: haven't seen a men's sports team championship since twenty twelve.

645
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 12: The city is going to be on fire. I would

646
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 12: expect record breaking numbers for this break.

647
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Speaker 5: I will not be asleep.

648
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Speaker 8: You will not be there, definitely be you will be there.

649
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: No, I will I will matter like in the daytime, Yeah,

650
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: during the week, get up.

651
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Speaker 5: At crap, all right? I will see you guys there.

652
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Speaker 5: I promised to be fun. I will the dog will

653
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Speaker 5: be dressed. I will be dressed. We will be doing again.

654
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Speaker 5: Essa for Nomo. I've been ob Williams.

655
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Speaker 2: Thank you both so much for joining us and go next.

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Speaker 9: Yes, appreciate it.

657
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Speaker 4: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend.

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Speaker 5: Right after this, Welcome back to Bloomer this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I'm Christina Rafini here with David Gera and Lisa Matteo.

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Speaker 2: Father's Day is next Sunday. So what do you get

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Speaker 2: the dad in your life who has everything?

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Speaker 3: We spoke with Chris rounds Er Bloomber pursuits Global Luxury

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Speaker 3: Editor to find out what he thinks makes a unique

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Speaker 3: Father's Day gift.

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Speaker 13: As a dad.

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Speaker 14: Now, I think most people don't get father Day's Father's

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Speaker 14: Day gifts, but which is why for our gift guide,

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Speaker 14: I wanted to keep it sort of reasonable in terms

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Speaker 14: of price, sort of an approachable, useful tool.

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Speaker 13: But for me, when I was little and I was

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Speaker 13: trying to think of.

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Speaker 14: What to get for my dad for Father's Day, we

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Speaker 14: thought like, Okay, what is the most precious thing in

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Speaker 14: the world to him?

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Speaker 13: Like what does he always reach for his handkerchief.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 14: This was before cell phones, where now like if aliens

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Speaker 14: came to Earth, they would be like, what is the

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Speaker 14: most precious thing on earth? Ooh a cell phone? Like

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Speaker 14: this was like my dad was always reaching for. It

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Speaker 14: was very useful. So every year we got him like

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Speaker 14: colorful bandanas, and it became like a little tradition, and

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Speaker 14: we were with him every time he sneezed, and like

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Speaker 14: when we were like a little part of his life

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Speaker 14: when he wasn't around. So this year for the gift God,

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Speaker 14: I was trying to think, all right, what are other

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Speaker 14: gifts that are like that?

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Speaker 2: That's very cute. I like this because it does feel

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Speaker 2: kind of obligatory.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you just reach for like.

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Speaker 2: A tie or socks or things like that. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: go through some different categories. So you've got adventure Dad,

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Speaker 2: culture Dad, geek Dad, talk us through some of your favorites,

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Speaker 2: and then I'm going to talk to you about this.

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Speaker 13: One of your least favorites.

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Speaker 5: Well, no, I just think it's a choice.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a choice.

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Speaker 8: Start with adventure Dad.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So for adventure Dad, there are these actual headphones

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Speaker 14: that I use that I tested out and like fell

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Speaker 14: in love with Their waterproof headphones are from h Too Audio.

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Speaker 14: They're that try to multisport headphones and they're meant for swimming,

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Speaker 14: so you can like load them with music so you

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Speaker 14: can because like Bluetooth doesn't work in the water, but

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Speaker 14: I use it for running when it's raining. I just

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Speaker 14: and they just like they vibrate through your skull. It's

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Speaker 14: a whole thing and they're really really reliable, and so

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Speaker 14: I just really like those. That's a good recommendation. And

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Speaker 14: then I recommend this Nomad Apple watch strap because like

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Speaker 14: you know, sometimes the Apple watch strap can get dirty

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Speaker 14: or it's just like doesn't look that like real good,

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Speaker 14: and you can get one good and then yeah, you

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Speaker 14: can get one that actually looks kind of cool and

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Speaker 14: your dad can take in the pool or take wherever,

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Speaker 14: and it just sort of upgrades something that he never

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Speaker 14: really thought about before.

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Speaker 8: Culture Dad.

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Speaker 3: The eight thousand dollars turntable is on here, but under

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Speaker 3: the the you just have affordable options under culture Dad.

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Speaker 13: Sometimes.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, so Macintosh is like an incredible audio company, and

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Speaker 14: we love writing about their stuff, and you know, I

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Speaker 14: was like, well, if we did something, it's something that

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Speaker 14: was really to reach, something that was kind of a treasure.

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Speaker 14: They have this turntable which is like really plug and play.

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Speaker 14: It can be analog, it can be a digital.

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Speaker 13: People love them.

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Speaker 14: So that's not for me culture dad, but like for

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Speaker 14: music culture dad, that's good.

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Speaker 5: Okay, kitchen dad, here we go.

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Speaker 8: Brace yourselves for the push on demand.

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Speaker 2: A man kitchen pepper cannon on Kitchenmond kitchen pepper can.

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Speaker 5: This is a two hundred dollars pepper grinder.

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Speaker 13: I will I will defend this choice to the death.

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Speaker 3: I also feel like, sinner, check quickly here. That's at

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Speaker 3: the low end for pepper mill. Haven't gotten married, haven't

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Speaker 3: done a red. I feel like pepper mills are more

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Speaker 3: expensive than you'd think they would be.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we did not register for crystal pepper mills at

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Speaker 14: my wedding, but like, yeah, I'm sure that was great

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Speaker 14: for you.

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Speaker 13: The Mond kitchen, you know, the one from.

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Speaker 5: The grocery store, grinds that it's like six bucks?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, how's that doing for you? How long has that lasted?

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Speaker 7: When?

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Speaker 13: What happened when you ran out of pepper?

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Speaker 8: She's got a case of Morton's ready.

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Speaker 13: The Mon kitchen.

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Speaker 5: I hate you, Bote.

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Speaker 13: It's not a pepper grinder. It's a pepper cannon.

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Speaker 5: What does that mean?

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Speaker 14: And it has this it's like has this like cantilevered

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Speaker 14: spinny top which is weighted so you just like spin

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Speaker 14: it and it just fires out pepper pepper ground.

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Speaker 9: You own this?

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Speaker 13: I own it.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 14: We wrote about it in Pursuits and Business Week and

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Speaker 14: uh and then the guy who wrote about it was like,

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Speaker 14: this is actually so incredible, and so I bought one

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Speaker 14: for my husband as a gift and we use it

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Speaker 14: all the time. It's the most popular item in our kitchen.

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Speaker 14: It grinds so many more grounds than the other It's

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Speaker 14: very easy to spend, it produces a high volume.

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Speaker 13: It's really good.

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Speaker 3: Well, if we moved from that to geek Dad, I

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Speaker 3: suppose there could be some overlap of the ven diagram

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Speaker 3: with two things.

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Speaker 8: Geek dad, who is geek dad?

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Speaker 14: Our interpretation of geek dad is very broad, So like

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Speaker 14: geek Dad could be like a dungeons and a dragon's dad,

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Speaker 14: which I have been at times.

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Speaker 8: Is that true?

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, yeah, I can tell you where to go

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Speaker 14: in Queens to play a good game, all right, And

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Speaker 14: then it could also be like a tech like a

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Speaker 14: tech dad kind of thing.

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Speaker 13: So we always recommend for people.

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Speaker 14: If you're at a loss for what to get, somebody,

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Speaker 14: go to the Moment Design Store online or in person.

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Speaker 14: Incredible gifts and so there's a great laser pointer that

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Speaker 14: they have for which is like creat if you're sitting

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Speaker 14: in your room to if you want.

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Speaker 13: To redesign it. It sort of measures edting.

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Speaker 14: Out and then it will create a digital version of

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Speaker 14: the room for you, so you can sort of figure

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Speaker 14: it out using AI.

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Speaker 5: Okay, real quick sports aad what's your favorite?

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Speaker 13: Uh sports?

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Speaker 14: Oh, you know, there's a couple of things in sports

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Speaker 14: dad that were not my ideas that I was surprised by.

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Speaker 13: Tennis ball subscription.

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Speaker 14: So one of the tennis ball players, one of the

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Speaker 14: tennis players dads that I talked to, was like, a

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Speaker 14: subscription for tennis balls because they you know, they come

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Speaker 14: once a month whatever. It's like thirty six dollars for

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Speaker 14: twelve cans. And I was like, but you just use

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Speaker 14: ten balls until they're done, and they were like, oh, no,

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Speaker 14: are you you use a new can for every game.

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Speaker 14: Cycling glasses, which is something I have biked across the

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Speaker 14: United States and I wore a regular pair of like

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Speaker 14: plastic sunglasses. But apparently there's very good ones that are

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Speaker 14: not that expensive, that go great to day to night.

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Speaker 13: No bars in the vision so you can see really well.

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Speaker 14: And that was not something that I had ever thought about,

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Speaker 14: but of course if I was a regular cyclist, I

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Speaker 14: would want them.

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Speaker 3: We'll have you back to talk D and D and

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Speaker 3: this epic bike trip across the country which I do

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Speaker 3: want to know more about as well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Happy Father's Day.

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Speaker 13: Thank you. Happy Father's Day to you, thank you.

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Speaker 8: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend.

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Speaker 5: Right after this, Welcome back to Bloomberg this weekend. I'm

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Speaker 5: Christine Raffini here with David Gera. All right, the pork.

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Speaker 2: Industry is working to overturn a ruling on how pregnant

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Speaker 2: styles are being treated with a new bill called Save

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Speaker 2: Our Bacon.

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Speaker 3: More notably, one of the key companies pushing for this

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Speaker 3: Saved the Bacon Act is the Chinese wh group who

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Speaker 3: owns major pork seller Smithfield Farms.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 2: We spoke with New York Times opinion columns Nick Christoph

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Speaker 2: about the Chinese influence in American policy, as well as

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Speaker 2: his beloved family pig Brunhilda.

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Speaker 15: When I was a teenager, we raised hogs here in

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Speaker 15: the farm, and you know these were this was a

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Speaker 15: traditional farm, so the hogs wandered outside. And I write

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Speaker 15: abo about Brunhilda because I think that there's this perception

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Speaker 15: of livestalk as these commodities that are these kind of ois,

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Speaker 15: and in fact, when you get to know them, they're individuals.

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Speaker 15: And Brunhilda, you know, Brunhilda had a stronger personality than

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Speaker 15: almost anybody, any people I can think of. And she

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Speaker 15: was ornery. She was not a lovable pig, but she

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Speaker 15: was so strong willed. She was a devoted mom. She

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Speaker 15: kept wandering off in pursuit of creaks, and I'd have

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Speaker 15: to go chase after her and we would.

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Speaker 7: You know, she was very valish.

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Speaker 15: She's always talking and squealing and I'd be yelling at

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Speaker 15: her and she'd be yelling back at me.

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Speaker 7: But you know, what a personality.

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Speaker 2: But the debate here is about these these birthing crates

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Speaker 2: that basically keep pigs in a pen to what where

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Speaker 2: they can't get up and turn around while while they

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Speaker 2: have babies that are caring for them. And it's interesting

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Speaker 2: this has been a debate for decades. I remember when

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Speaker 2: I was studying abroad in England in two thousand and five,

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, I watched a play on this

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Speaker 2: issue because the EU regulations were coming in and British

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Speaker 2: pig farmers were upset about this. Then there's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of efforts to try to stop this process. Talk

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Speaker 2: to us about what these crates are, what they mean

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Speaker 2: for just you know, people call them torture, is what

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Speaker 2: they're like. And the legislation that has been put in

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Speaker 2: place in the US here to try to stop their use.

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Speaker 7: So there are two kind of crazy.

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Speaker 15: So one is for actual birthing and when the piglets

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Speaker 15: are very young, and there's a little more of an

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Speaker 15: argument for that to prevent the sow from squashing her pigs.

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Speaker 15: But I think there's really no argument whatsoever for what

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Speaker 15: are called gestation crates, which are used when the sow

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Speaker 15: when the female pig is pregnant. And these are these

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Speaker 15: tiny little crates where as you say, she can't even

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Speaker 15: turn around, you know, never sees the sun, never sets

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Speaker 15: foot on the ground. This, you know, imagine your golden

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Speaker 15: retriever in a context like that. And when voters are asked,

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Speaker 15: they think this is a terrible idea, and voters in

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Speaker 15: both Massachusetts and in California by huge majorities, passed ballot

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Speaker 15: measures that would ban the sale of pork that was

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Speaker 15: raised in this way. And so that sets up the

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Speaker 15: confrontation that we're now talking about.

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Speaker 2: This is this lingering issue you have pulling us. There's

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Speaker 2: eighty four percent of Americans consider this process unacceptable. Legislation

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Speaker 2: starts to get passed, and then, as you write, the

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Speaker 2: pork industry squealed and enter the Save our Bacon Bill.

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Speaker 2: So what does the Save our Bacon Bill do and

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Speaker 2: who is backing it?

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Speaker 15: So the Save our Bacon Bill would essentially overturn these

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Speaker 15: laws in Massachusetts and in California, and you know, there are,

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Speaker 15: no doubt will be other laws similar to that pasting

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Speaker 15: other states. So it would ban a state from barring

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Speaker 15: the sale of pork raised in other states by these.

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Speaker 7: You know, using gestation rates.

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Speaker 15: And the pork industry argues that one state doesn't have

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Speaker 15: the right to tell other states how to raise their pigs.

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Speaker 15: It also says that this would make pork more expensive,

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Speaker 15: which actually I think is true. I mean, the way

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Speaker 15: raise right now it really is incredibly efficient. Pork industry

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Speaker 15: has done an amazing job holding down pork prices, but

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Speaker 15: at a real cost for pigs.

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Speaker 7: And for humans. And so this has come down.

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Speaker 15: Partly because voters really don't like the idea of pigs

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Speaker 15: and gestation rates. So the pork industry and its supporters

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Speaker 15: sneaked the Savior of Bacon Act into the Agriculture Bill

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Speaker 15: this year, which is a kind of must pass legislation,

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Speaker 15: and it passed the House that way. So it's in

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Speaker 15: the House version of the Agriculture Bill and now going

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Speaker 15: to the Senate, and there's now a big fight in

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Speaker 15: Act in the Senate agg Bill or then ultimately in

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Speaker 15: the Conference committee that will decide what happens.

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Speaker 2: But there's another issue here, and that is that Smithfield

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Speaker 2: Farms is owned by a Chinese corporation now, and this

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Speaker 2: is one of the big groups trying to push this

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Speaker 2: bill through Congress.

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Speaker 5: What is the concern here?

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Speaker 2: What was the bigger story about foreign influence through corporations

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Speaker 2: impacting legislation in Congress?

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Speaker 15: So I think this point has particularly resonated with conservatives,

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Speaker 15: and it's been striking Christina that this is an issue

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Speaker 15: where liberals and conservatives have really come together, both on

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Speaker 15: the humanity of dealing with Pigs's way, but also on

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Speaker 15: some of these larger structural issues like this one. And

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Speaker 15: I think the basic feeling is, why should we be

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Speaker 15: privileging a major Chinese company that started as a state

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Speaker 15: owned company and still has somewhat unclear murky ties to

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Speaker 15: the Chinese state. Why should we privilege that enormous behemoth

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Speaker 15: over the voters in the US in terms of constrictions.

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Speaker 15: And it was also a big debate when this Chinese

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Speaker 15: company then acquired Smithfield some years ago.

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Speaker 7: But I think now it just comes down to, you.

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Speaker 15: Know, why I privilege this Chinese company over the voters

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Speaker 15: in the US.

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Speaker 2: Is there a concern that if this Save our Bacon

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Speaker 2: Act passes, that you could see more of these foreign

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Speaker 2: owned conglomerates trying to do something similar?

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Speaker 7: So, I mean, I think that foreign companies.

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Speaker 5: Are that already happening. I guess that's already happening.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, everybody is always lobbying for advantage, and

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Speaker 15: that goes for foreign companies and for American companies. But

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Speaker 15: I do think that this is a particularly clear confrontation

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Speaker 15: between the will of voters and the profits for a

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Speaker 15: major overseas company, especially one that has ties to the

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Speaker 15: Chinese state. That seems that's pretty unusual.

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