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Speaker 1: What's appics way up at Angela Yee, Angela Yee. And

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Speaker 1: of course it is Wealth Wednesday. So here is my

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Speaker 1: Wealth Wednesday partner, Stacy Tasdale.

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Speaker 2: Happy Wealth Wednesday, everybody, And this one is really going

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Speaker 2: to be a wealth of information. We are talking about

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Speaker 2: how black women can navigate their careers, advocate for themselves,

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Speaker 2: and really navigate corporate cultures with some amazing people. So

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Speaker 2: we're super excited.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well let's get it started and introductions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have Jackie Glenn who is now the CEO

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Speaker 2: and founder of Glenn Diversity in HR Solutions, and she

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Speaker 2: is the former Global head of Diversity of EMC Dell.

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Speaker 2: And we have Sandra Kents who is the CEO of

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Speaker 2: Paradigm for Parody and Angela and I we know all

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Speaker 2: y'all saw the pictures. We had the pleasure of ringing

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Speaker 2: the closing bell at the Nasdaq with Paradigm for Parody.

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Speaker 1: And a really great panels, really conversation.

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Speaker 2: And we have Andrea Atkinson Downer who is a product

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Speaker 2: of Paradigm for Parody And I'm putting on my glasses

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Speaker 2: because I got to get your title. D girl is

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Speaker 2: the lead distribution engineer at ever source. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about that because one being a female engineer, being

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Speaker 2: a black female engineer, lead engineer is ever source. So

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Speaker 2: all of this stuff is really made possible because of

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Speaker 2: mentoring support. This is going to be an amazing conversation

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Speaker 2: a lot coming from an organization called Paradigm for Parity.

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Speaker 2: So for when we start, Sandra, tell us what it

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Speaker 2: is and tell us about your mission.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, and thank you so much for having us

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Speaker 3: here today. And so Paradigm for Parody is really an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to engage companies and organizations to achieve gender parody,

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Speaker 3: including racial equity. We all know that women are not

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Speaker 3: represented at every level of leadership in corporations today, and

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Speaker 3: so our goal and our mission is to ensure gender

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Speaker 3: parity at every level of leadership.

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Speaker 1: And there are so many different ways that we are

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Speaker 1: not represented or sometimes can felt shut down, you know,

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Speaker 1: so what are some things and some corporation What are

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Speaker 1: some things that corporations can do and how does Paradigm

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Speaker 1: for Parity help with that?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: So besides leading from the top right because it takes

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Speaker 3: the leadership from the top to have a commitment around diversity, equity,

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Speaker 3: and inclusion. We provide a five point action plan, so

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Speaker 3: it's providing that strategic direction along with key tactics, and

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Speaker 3: that plan includes things like sponsorship, which we know is

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Speaker 3: critically important. Women and ethnically underrepresented talent does not make

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Speaker 3: it to the top, and companies or corporations without sponsorship.

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Speaker 3: We also know that it also involves unconscious bias. How

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Speaker 3: ensure that we are able to consciously eliminate unconscious bias?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: And then we also have how do we think about

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Speaker 3: our data? Do we know who works for us? And

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Speaker 3: in our organizations? And we know that data leads to strategy,

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Speaker 3: and then strategy leads to cultural change. And so those

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Speaker 3: But we know that once you think about that talent

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Speaker 3: and you create that strategy, it really does help all

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Speaker 2: I just want to pause for a second classes are

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Speaker 1: A real flavor for nice glasses. That's my friend, that's

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Speaker 2: What corporate cultures are really like for black women and

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Speaker 2: paradigm for parodies. Job is to help us get into

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Speaker 2: leadership rules. So reality check, women of color make up

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Speaker 1: And you know, and for you, Jackie, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: But what has been your experience speaking to what Stacy

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Speaker 5: You know, going back, it's been five years since I've

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Speaker 1: Beat right, they might feel more comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you have an interesting story. Everyone knows Dell

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 6: that she doesn't have to struggle, because I would make

441
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Speaker 6: that struggle for I would do the struggle for her.

442
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Speaker 4: So I think that was the point there.

443
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Speaker 6: Coming up in New Hallville, I came up through New Hallville.

444
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 6: My family always were givers. I'm from New Haven, New Haven, Connecticut,

445
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 6: so we have like three streets named after us, and

446
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 6: we have a legacy there. I spend a lot of

447
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 6: time in the community.

448
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 4: I give back.

449
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 6: I tutor every Saturday, two underserved students because I believe

450
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Speaker 6: that's so important that I give it back and it's free.

451
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Speaker 2: And making so much in a very male dominated career.

452
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Speaker 2: You were telling me how hard it was toeer.

453
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Speaker 6: Oh yes, I mean, like it's just that we're not

454
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 6: supposed to be there and they don't see the black woman.

455
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Speaker 6: They may see they may see engineer as a white male.

456
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Speaker 4: But so you may get that in some instance where.

457
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Speaker 6: You can be at a job or something and they'll

458
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 6: be like, well, who's in charge, And you know, no

459
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 6: one says anything because they know it's the black female

460
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 6: that's in charge. But the person will automatically assume it's

461
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Speaker 6: always the white male that's an charge.

462
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Speaker 4: But when they realized that you know your stuff and

463
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 4: you know you.

464
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 6: Can't take it, they can't take it from me because

465
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 6: I've set myself up in that way. I've even put

466
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 6: myself out there working because I knew that I was

467
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 6: always gonna get to know. So what I did was

468
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 6: I took a different turn. When I worked for a

469
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Speaker 6: public utility company. I decided that I wanted to be

470
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Speaker 6: an engineer, but I knew that I needed to go

471
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Speaker 6: a different path because this was a much harder path.

472
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 6: I had to go out in the field and work.

473
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Speaker 6: So I was in those man homes working Wow. I

474
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Speaker 6: performed the job of the engineer because I knew that

475
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Speaker 6: they wouldn't be able to take that from me. So

476
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Speaker 6: when they see my resume, they see me hopping doing

477
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 6: two programs two colleges at the same time. It says something.

478
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Speaker 6: It says that I persevered, you know, and my daughter

479
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 6: was a part of it. She saw it, so that

480
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 6: was so important that I didn't let her down because

481
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Speaker 6: she needed to see me finish.

482
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Speaker 1: And I feel like we do always have to be

483
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Speaker 1: in a position where we're overly qualified, overly prepared and

484
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: always knowing every assa whereas some people may not have

485
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: to do that, and you know, as a woman, some

486
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: people don't have to do that, it ends up.

487
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Speaker 2: Being a plus to My mom used to have to

488
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: be ten times better after and it was hard and

489
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: didn't feel good. But guess what, one day, you're ten

490
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: times better.

491
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Speaker 4: And I actually wanted.

492
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Speaker 2: You to touch on what skills did you get from

493
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: Paradigm for Parody that have helped you moved into Now

494
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: you're like the boss, your boss lady now Yeah.

495
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Speaker 6: So it's it's you know, it's it's I think I'm

496
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 6: more like, I love the guys that work for me.

497
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 6: The skills that Paradigm for Parody has given me is

498
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 6: the resilience, my self confidence, because I really would sit

499
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 6: back and just let you know, just I would speak out,

500
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 6: but I think it was like there's times that you

501
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 6: can't speak out because you know, people value your ideas,

502
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 6: being innovative, and you have ideas, so if you speak out,

503
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 6: people see how you show up.

504
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: Those skills were very good one thing.

505
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 6: The other part of it is to be able to

506
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 6: influence others, you know, And I've learned that too, And

507
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 6: I've learned that I had to speak up for myself

508
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 6: and advocate for myself because no one was gonna do

509
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 6: that for me.

510
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: And that was the reason why I'm.

511
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 6: Here at the Paradigm for parody, because I was like,

512
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 6: Hella high water, if I have to go all the

513
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 6: way to the CEO, I'm going.

514
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: And I didn't care. It even earned me, you know,

515
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: a right to.

516
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Speaker 6: Actually have And it was weird because I had a

517
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 6: mentor at at ever Source and she's a C suite

518
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 6: black woman, very respected woman, and she actually I asked

519
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 6: her to be my mentor. I didn't know her, but

520
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 6: I said, I got to really strategize with this one.

521
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 6: So I told her, I said, you know what, you

522
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 6: don't know me, you don't know me from Adam, but

523
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 6: this is we share a common interest here. And I

524
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 6: showed her the interest that we shared. I showed her

525
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 6: the things that I was going to be working on.

526
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 6: And you know at the end of it, she said,

527
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 6: you showed up every time you did the work.

528
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, because being a mentor is work too, And I

529
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: want to talk to Jackie and Sanda about the difference

530
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: between being a mentor and a sponsor and how do

531
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Speaker 1: people find a good mentor or a good sponsor.

532
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 5: Yea, So, Santra, I know you saw this coach somewhere,

533
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 5: but I saw it this morning and I just really

534
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 5: had to write it down. But it says a coach

535
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: talks to you, a mentor talks with you, and I

536
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 5: add a third, a sponsor talks about you. And so

537
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 5: I like that depending on where you are in your career,

538
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 5: you might you definitely need one of them. And one

539
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: of the biggest things that I've done over the years

540
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 5: that we were telling is making sure that I coach

541
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 5: young women and mentor them. When you get into the

542
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 5: c suite or you get to the director vice president,

543
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 5: you need a sponsor. You need someone that is talking

544
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 5: about you when you're not in the room. And I

545
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 5: have to tell you, I wouldn't be sitting there before

546
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 5: you if I didn't have. Some white guys.

547
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: Just just loved how I showed up.

548
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 5: They were not intimidated by me. They could tell me

549
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 5: about myself and still be friends with me, and they

550
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 5: weren't afraid, and they would talk about me when I

551
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 5: wasn't in the room right And I feel like that

552
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 5: sponsorship right there, and depending on where you are, I

553
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 5: encourage all young women that are listening to really get

554
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: yourself a coach, because sometimes people need to be told

555
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 5: about themselves, Like you're showing up raggedy today and you don't.

556
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: Get that part.

557
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 5: You need to stop, take a deep bread and extend

558
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 5: some grace. I had to set that to one of

559
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 5: my coaches. She just kept saying, you know, these people

560
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 5: are out to get me. And I said, so give

561
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 5: me an example, and I said, you know about just

562
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 5: extending some grace. I think we are in.

563
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Speaker 4: This era that I'll talk about that we're just extends.

564
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 5: Sove meet people where they're at. Everything is not to

565
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 5: get you, even though there's some stuff out there to

566
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 5: get you, but everything is not about that. And when

567
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 5: you have a coach, a mentor, or a sponsor, you

568
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 5: really need to mix it up there. So you kid

569
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 5: me like, Okay, Jackie and Sandra, can can you guys

570
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 5: be my coach? Because I want a black coach. Yeah,

571
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: you need a black coach, but you also need a

572
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 5: white coach, an Hispanic coach, you need lgbt QA coach.

573
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 5: You need a coach wish a visible or invisible disability.

574
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 5: I have all coach on all the dimensions of diversity,

575
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: because I'm not versed in all of them. And I

576
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 5: think sometimes we just gravitate to people that look like

577
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: us and we're comfortable with and this whole notion of

578
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 5: sameness is real. Oh, let me just go to Angela

579
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 5: because she's my girl. And when I should go to

580
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 5: Billibob because he's kicking it and I want to know

581
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: how he does it.

582
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, how's some people that I'm not that close with

583
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: who've done a lot for.

584
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: Me, right, you know?

585
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's not going to be your friends. And

586
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: it's great, you know, when we help each other, But

587
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you do have to get out of your comfort zone,

588
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: like you said, and go to somebody who you may

589
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: not know like that, and you'll be surprised that the

590
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: things that your work can speak for itself and people

591
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: have no problem vouching for you.

592
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I do think there's something to what you

593
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: also shared about you know, how do you become a

594
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: good put yourself in the position to be sponsored, or

595
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: put yourself in the position to be coached or mentored.

596
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: And you know, like you said, as a mentor, you're

597
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: there to listen and bounce ideas off of and when

598
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: you show up raggedy, you know, girl, pull yourself together.

599
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

600
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: So that is the mentor piece, but the sponsor piece

601
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: is very different. And I have to be able to

602
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: articulate to my sponsor, you know, the work that I lead,

603
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: the value that I bring, the projects that I'm in,

604
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: and I have to get myself ready for that because

605
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: a sponsor is putting their personal and professional cap behind me.

606
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: They're the ones sitting at the table and saying, hey,

607
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: I really think Andrea should be promoted, and here are

608
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: the reasons why. And they can speak to the why,

609
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: and then they can say things like, you know, and

610
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: I'm willing to help her and make sure that she's

611
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: successful in her role. And so, as a protege or

612
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: someone who wants to be sponsored, you have to know

613
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: your why. You also have to be able to articulate

614
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: your value and your worth and the work that you're

615
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: driving and leading and be able to demonstrate that in

616
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 3: a way that someone wants to sponsor you. And I

617
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: do think there's a notion around. Let me just talk

618
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: a little bit about executive coaching, because I think executive

619
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: coaching is another great opportunity that we sometimes don't take

620
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: advantage of. I never had an executive coach until I

621
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 3: came into this role as CEO.

622
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: Master class. Free master class, keep.

623
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Speaker 4: Going, that's right.

624
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: And so when you have an executive coach, especially as

625
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: you begin to progress your career within corporate America or

626
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: wherever you are, that executive coach really helps you to

627
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: think about two things. Number One, they help you to

628
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: think about yourself and why you feel a certain way.

629
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: So you can go back to the person Jackie that said,

630
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: oh I think you know they're all against me. Well,

631
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: an executive coach will help you dive into the why

632
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: behind the way you're thinking about that, but then help

633
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: you shift your thinking and help you think about how

634
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: to show up differently and better in your environment. So

635
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: I think an executive coach is amazing. And I think

636
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: if you do what Andrea did and you ask, hey,

637
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: one of the things that I'm looking for is to

638
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: have an executive coach, will you support me will this

639
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: organization support me on that journey. And also a board

640
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: of directors. So when you think about a mentor and

641
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: those that are very different from you, I say three

642
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: to five people is always good. You want someone in

643
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: the company and someone external because you really want to

644
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: get a broader perspective and you need that to be successful.

645
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: So absolutely, you're touching on so many things because that

646
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: whole go it alone, particularly you know women of color

647
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: have you really can't.

648
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: You need this coaching.

649
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: You need those kind.

650
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: Of skills absolutely and want.

651
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: Definitely talk about that go it alone. And Jackie, you say,

652
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: we're kind of in a new era now where we

653
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: have to look at things like mentoring and coaching differently

654
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: because the way court, you know, corporate cultures are set

655
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: up now, black women are actually pitted against each other

656
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: for that top job. So what are the five piece

657
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: of this new era that we're in.

658
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 5: So, you know, twenty twenty came up on us like

659
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Speaker 5: a hot flesh. I'm gonna call it, I guess And

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Speaker 5: I called people who are just calling me an accident, Jackie,

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Speaker 5: So what do I say After the murder of Georgia

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Speaker 5: Floyd and I got off the phone and I said,

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Speaker 5: you know what we're in right now. We're in the

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Speaker 5: era of the five piece, and the five piece are

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Speaker 5: the pandemic politics because when twenty twenty was an election year,

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Speaker 5: we're seeing a lot of protests, prejudice, and people are polarized.

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Speaker 5: So nothing that you did before twenty twenty, you can

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Speaker 5: show up and do it the same way. Because I

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Speaker 5: feel like we're in a different era. And why do

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Speaker 5: I say that. I say that because you know, central

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Speaker 5: people now know what tone police it is. People know

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Speaker 5: if you says to them. You know, I mean the

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Speaker 5: guys I work with in technology used to say, now,

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Speaker 5: why do we have to do a special program for

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Speaker 5: people of color? I pull myself up by my bootstrap,

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Speaker 5: so that old bootstrap theory. We know that that's my progression.

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Speaker 4: You know, we know that.

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Speaker 5: You know, psychological safety, That's all I talk about. Psychological safety.

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Speaker 5: Do I feel psychologically safe when I show up at work?

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Speaker 5: And what are the signs that I'm in a psychological

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Speaker 5: dangerous environment?

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Speaker 3: And so this.

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Speaker 5: Era that we're in, people are showing up more aware,

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Speaker 5: they're showing up unapologetic, can't do I got a call

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Speaker 5: the other day because someone you know, walking to her

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Speaker 5: organization and tell them, you know what, I need to

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Speaker 5: move to Detroit because I do not feel psychological safe

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Speaker 5: in this environment and I'd like to work remotely. And

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Speaker 5: Era the reason why. And she had a whole laundry

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Speaker 5: list and they had to stop, and they couldn't just

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Speaker 5: brush her off and tell her, you know, years ago

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Speaker 5: before twenty three, really like, no, you're not working remotely,

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Speaker 5: and don't you know, we ended up giving her an

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Speaker 5: eyebraid schedule because she could point the things that happen

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Speaker 5: in the workplace that made her feel psychologically unsafe. And

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Speaker 5: that is a big thing. That is and this era

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Speaker 5: I've brought out a lot more deliberate and intentional intentionality

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Speaker 5: about how people show up at work and what they

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Speaker 5: will and will not take.

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Speaker 2: We could go on forever. I'm going to have a

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Speaker 2: part two. You're all amazing. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: going really into the heart of this, and you paradigm

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Speaker 2: for parody. You're doing a free master class. Tell us

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Speaker 2: about that, Sandra and how people can sign up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so our masterclass series is coming up, so you'll

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Speaker 3: get a chance to hear more from Jackie glynn. O.

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Speaker 3: We love that, I know, and Stacy Tisdell and myself,

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Speaker 3: Sandra Quince. Yes, So we hope you'll join us and

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Speaker 3: that master class. As Stacey said earlier, if you go

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Speaker 3: to Paradigm the number four parody dot com Backsplash Masterclass,

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Speaker 3: you'll be able to sign up for this free, courageous

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Speaker 3: conversation the realities of black women in the workplace. We'll

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Speaker 3: have the opportunity to empower black women with skills and support,

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Speaker 3: just like we provided for Andrea. So we hope that

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Speaker 3: you'll join us, and keep in mind, if you're not

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Speaker 3: a black woman, you should.

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Speaker 4: Still sign up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the skills are awesome for and they work

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Speaker 3: for everyone, and it also give you an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: brawn your own perspective and see it from a different

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Speaker 3: point of view. So we hope you'll all take the

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Speaker 3: opportunity to join us here in November for our masterclass series.

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Speaker 3: And it's going to be November two at eleven o'clock am.

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Speaker 2: And say that website again because I think it's dot org.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Paradigm for the number four parody dot org. You're

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Speaker 3: absolutely backsplash Masterclass. That's right, it is dot org.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you all right, thank you so much. I

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Speaker 1: love the work that you've been doing and for you

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Speaker 1: ladies to be up here with us today and it's

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Speaker 1: a pleasure to see you again on It's always a

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Speaker 1: pleasure good to be.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and you all do not want

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