1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: your filthy horse. Your husband's gone, and we've got books 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: on a bottle of wine to kill it. It's books. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: It's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoirs, Martini. Clebrity Book Club. 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity Book Club. Tell 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys are 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: alloud celebrited book say it loud and poud. Celebrity Book Club. 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Buzz man. I brought the queer foe. Hey friend, my 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: sister in Christ, How are you, my beautiful brother in christiandom? 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: It is so gorgeous you. I had the longest day. 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: It was in the Sea of Galilei for like six hours. 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: There was in soon traffic at the port. It's trying 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: a doc, you know how it is? Oh girl, I'm 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: with some goats. Okay, they all had leprosy. But funny 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: thing happened. Oh let me guess they didn't even want 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: to be healed. Oh no, they all just want to 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: walk around Jerusalem covered in leprosy. All right, I'm like, 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: your limbs are falling off, just except Christ into your heart. 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: People are insane these days. But finally I had some wine. 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: It was water, but this like really hot guy came 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: up and like changed it for me. This was so crazy. 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: We have one of the strongest sisters in faith joining 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: us today. Yeah, one of my favorite, favorite favorite disciples 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: from Sunday School, Saturday School, all the schools. Really, she's 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: a lover, she's a fighter, she's a friend, she's running 26 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: for governor, she's she's a family woman. Oh and by 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: the way, to our listeners, yes, this is our what 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: we're calling now our annual Bible episode, and we are 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: doing the Second Testament and we are sorry sorry the 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Second Testament we're colloquially known as the Bible Part two. 31 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: And we have one of our favorite Christians here with us. 32 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: You can hear her, that gorgeous, sumptuous many people say, 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: French voice coming in on the microphone. You know her 34 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: from her faithful special on the FOS called the Twist 35 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: Dot Dot Dot. She's gorgeous is actually the twist dot 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: dot question mark. She's gorgeous. Ladies and gentlemen, Cat Cohen, Catherine, Oh, oh, 37 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: I am feeling the power of gratitude. Yea, yeah, I 38 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: am feeling the heart of Jesus, and I feel like 39 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: He is filling me up through both of you. And 40 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: I feel so full with Jesus is filling It's so 41 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: uncanny the way it comes out of you, like so realistically, 42 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I feel like I 43 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: can feel the sexuality and the repression and then the 44 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: unrepressed sexuality coming back. I don't know anyone who embodies 45 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: Christ more than you try and live in his image. 46 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: And that is a hymn. And that is a guy, 47 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: a white guy with a beard hair, long hair, looks 48 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: like a member of Fleet Foxes. That is what he 49 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: capital h looks like. And I don't want to hear otherwise. 50 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: And he can fill me up any day of the week. 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: I love my God. He's awesome. Our God is You're 52 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: an awesome God. He rains from having umbo with a 53 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: whiz some power and loving. So let's get into it. 54 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: Can't you obviously have a you have a background in 55 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: this world. Well it's really twisted because I'm you know, 56 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: my last name is Cohen. I am half Jewish, but 57 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: growing up in Texas, I ended up going to Evangelical 58 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: church and then camp in Arkansas, camp called Camp Ozark. 59 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: The incomparable Camp Ozark, where you were encouraged to la 60 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: la la la, live out loud in Christ's image. It 61 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: destroyed my brain. It ruined, it ruins lives. It's the 62 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: most twisted place. It's so scary. How did you come 63 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: upon Camp Ozark? Was it like a hot fellow, popular 64 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: girl was like you gotta come this summer. Yeah, it 65 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: was like in my high school. It was like a 66 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: cool place to go. It's like, we're going to Ozark 67 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: and like my church, a lot of people, a lot 68 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: of kids went to Ozark. It was like fifth Session. 69 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: A lot of Houston kids did Fifth Session. And I 70 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: was actually an osage which is like the sex of 71 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: your tribe, and it was all about Fifth Session. And 72 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: there was always a theme song and the main one 73 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: I remember is La La La La, Live out Loud. 74 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: And is it co ad? Yeah? It is extremely co ed. 75 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: And every night you have divo, which is devotional in 76 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: your cabin where you all sit with your Bibles and 77 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: everyone like you like have to cry or it's like 78 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: not a good divo, Like everyone is a look like 79 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: you're silent all reading your DeVos or do you read 80 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: aloud to each other? You were reading you like read 81 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: a verse, then you talk it through. I remember one 82 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: night sobbing on the steps of my cabin with this 83 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: friend of mine because we were were so worried about 84 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: how are our Jewish friends. Our Jewish friends and family 85 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: were all going to Hell and we were really sad 86 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: about that. Into the Second Testament, I was like, Okay, 87 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: this is so Kanye, Like the whole Second Testament is 88 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: like yeah. And then the Jews did this basically also 89 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: like the second I went to college and wasn't around 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: these people, I was like, oh wait, I don't want 91 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: to do this anymore, and was somehow I'm racuously able 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: to fully snap out of it. But I was telling 93 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: the Lake before we started recording that it was very 94 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: cool to like memorize long Bible verses and like have 95 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: them to say to people like And I texted a 96 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: friend of mine who I'm still very close with, who 97 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: was also part of the church, and she sent me. 98 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: I was like, send me the verses you remember, and 99 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: it was and so I have some cute up for y'all. 100 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's get into it. Would there be 101 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: people at Ozark we would just be like like, hey, Brandon, 102 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: Luke three eleven, and he would just like say it 103 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: and they'd be like a party trick. It would be 104 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: more like, I can't talk to Brandon because he's making 105 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: me feel impure and I and you had to wear 106 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: a one piece bathing suit even under clothes, like while 107 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: you're sleeping. Well, the thing to where was that you'd 108 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 1: wear a sports bra underneath a one piece bathing suit. 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: And then girls would get in trouble if they're shorts 110 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: dipped below like the hip part. And it was called hipskin, 111 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: and they'd be like, no, hipskin, girls, hip skin to erotic. 112 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: That's so sexy hipskin. We should come out shorts that 113 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: are called hipskins. Wait, No, hipskin is a great name 114 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: for a brand like skin skin. Oh, I got another 115 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: pair of hipskins. I got three, just three, every color 116 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: and it's just send you monthly hipskin Subcrisian. It's a 117 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: it's a postcript a post Christian subscription box. Today's episode 118 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: is sponsored by Hipskins, a monthly subscription of sexy shorts 119 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: that obey God. Use code pure at checkout? Did you 120 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: before we get your favorite? I have it? Did you 121 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: like make out campos arc? No? No one wanted to 122 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: kiss me for so long. It was hell. I remember 123 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: once I had a Christian this boy, Yeah, I know 124 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: I had it. I had a crush on this boy 125 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: once who wore this like Maroon Arkansas hot Go razorbacks 126 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: and what I literally it was like a movie I 127 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: watched in real time. My friend tell him I had 128 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: to crushed on him, and I watched him and his 129 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: friends all start pointing at me and laughing. Oh, that's 130 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: why I do stand up. Calm Wait, that's wait, that's 131 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: so the Taylor Swift song like have you ever like 132 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: kissed somebody in a crowded room when everyone was like 133 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: laughing at you? No one started clapping? Wait and then 134 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: just but were there? Like were there was like the 135 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: slttiest girl at church camp in the slightiest guy, Like 136 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: was there an insanely impure hand drop happening underneath the 137 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: rectory or whatever? I've known this This camp was so 138 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: twisted that like the coolest girl was like the most 139 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: pure and like had a boyfriend, but they didn't kiss 140 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: and they wouldn't kiss until they were married. Wow. And 141 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: a lot of these, a lot of these camp couples 142 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: that we looked up to. It was so clear there 143 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: now in retrospect that both sides are so closeted. Yeah, 144 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: and that's why they That's why they could that's why 145 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: they could obey. Yeah, like I want nothing to do 146 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: with you. The guy has like an eight pack in 147 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: like is showing so much chip skin and is just 148 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: like I have no Yes, of course I would love 149 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: to kiss Kaylee, but I won't. And it's like you're 150 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: in Chelsea now absolutely just well, you're just like me 151 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: and my fiance both love musicals. We're actually both auditioning 152 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: right exact U. Okay, so wait, what's your favorite verse? 153 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, if this is Ephesians, which is kind 154 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: of like Alts, which is chic for by grace, you 155 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: have been saved through faith and this is not your 156 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: own doing. It is the gift of God. Ephesians to eight, 157 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: interesting and the classic one. Another classic one is Philippians 158 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: four thirteen. I can do all things through Christ, who 159 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: strengthens me. Okay, so these are kind of like classic 160 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: girl Boss ones where it's just like hell, yes, bitch, 161 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: I can totally. Yeah. If the New Testament to me 162 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: was much work is very Kardashians in this way because 163 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: it is very just like he ll who have give bread, 164 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: will not eat the bread until we all rise in 165 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: the name of Christ. And it's like basically, don't eat 166 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: carbs until like become like holy in his It's very 167 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: it's very ted talk like to me. So for those 168 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: of you who don't know the Second Testament as we 169 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: call it, it's kind of like it's kind of this 170 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: season two. It's kind of like the Old Testament is 171 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: very like the Jews like in their whole story and 172 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: then they were like, actually, um, the Jews are over 173 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: and like Jesus is God now, and so here's this 174 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: like story about him and like how he's amazing and 175 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: how he just like was the original like ted X 176 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: speaker and went around doing these TEDx talks, like around 177 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: like Jordan, and so it's so Nixium the whole thing. 178 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: It really it's like, yeah, the Round girls, time to 179 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: get Brandon and I and I guess I'm just like okay, 180 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: so there's nothing else to do, and like your boat 181 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: is docked at like the Port of Galilei and you're like, well, 182 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: this random guy with long hair is talking. I guess 183 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: I'll go listen because what else am I doing? Like 184 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: no one has a phone so it's just like, yeah, 185 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: he was kind of the only game in town. But 186 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: then it's just like so much of it that he's 187 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: spouting is like, you know, and not to poke holes 188 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: in the Bible because I would never do because it 189 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: is without flaw and it makes sense. It is really 190 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: aged well, hasn't it. It's just very like this is 191 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: kind of general acid advice, just being like do unto others, 192 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: like things will go well if you believe in yourself, 193 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: and just like good luck. It's very love. His patient 194 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: love is kind, whereas old Testman's very like put blood 195 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: over your door, like take a lamb penis, Yes, everyone's 196 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: always like raped. And then there's nine sheep and their 197 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: boarding ship and this is just like and there was 198 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: a blind man and when Jesus, Okay, this part was 199 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: insane to me. There's like a blind man, Jesus takes clay, 200 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: puts it on the blind man's eyes and fixes his site. 201 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: It's the first lasic. Lasic was there. It's originally Clay, 202 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, and then all of it and you're just like, also, 203 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: they're just they run through stuff so quickly, so like yeah, 204 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: then he cured a lunatic and someone with palsy, and 205 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: it's just like they're not even really explaining, and so 206 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, next, I do feel like it's like, you know, 207 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: there's many explanations, but it's like I feel like there's 208 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: a lot of moon Chausen's going on in the levant 209 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: at this time. It's very Yeah, everyone's walking around being like, 210 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so I've been I've had a 211 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: tummy ache for eight days. And then Jesus is just like, hmm, 212 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: here's some clay, and they're like, wow, I'm better. M No. 213 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: I was like I get that, Like God was like 214 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Jesus is my son, blah blah blah, and that whole 215 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: thing explained, and then oh that I believe totally. But 216 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: then I'm a little like, so he has so many powers, 217 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: I need like a little more if you can kind 218 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: of explain cat like background. Oh, I don't really remember. 219 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm I really blacked out like those years for the 220 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: most part, hence me having to text my friend. But 221 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: I know everyone was very obsessed with the Holy Trinity 222 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: and with understanding that like God is one and like 223 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: they are all things through Him who strengthens me. I 224 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: remember one time being I was on this Christian ski trip, 225 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: and I was like I wasn't feeling moved and I 226 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: wanted to feel moved, so I like we were singing 227 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: this song and then I was like I have was 228 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: a very visceral memory of like looking up and being like, wow, 229 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: if that light turned into God's face, I'd probably cry 230 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: right now, that's pretty cool. No, just like in my head, 231 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I means I must really believe. Wait, 232 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: so you were looking for like for what we call 233 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: the physical signs. You were being like hmmm, actually like 234 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: that guy looks like Jesus, or just like I'm seeing 235 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: a cross right now, like in a shadow. I kept 236 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: just being like I don't feel these things everyone's talking about, 237 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: Like how can I construct it? We're girls on the 238 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: ski trip, and I camp like coming back to like 239 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: in the um, you know, bunk bed, being like y'all 240 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: like literally like Jesus, God came to me like on 241 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: the slope, and I did personally like today like God 242 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: witnessed to me, like on the slope, like I totally 243 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: saw him. I saw through the nature's beauty. I was 244 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: seeing him. But then also like our favorite game quote 245 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: unquote game to play at night was that we obvious 246 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: sleeping in these big rooms, like in bunk beds, and 247 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: our favorite game was just to like start making sex 248 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: noises and see if anyone knew who it was. So 249 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, there was also that a bunch of virgins 250 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: moaning that is actually like the most high school game 251 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: they were. It's just like you're all such virgins and 252 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: you're being like, wait no, likee okay, sex noise competition. 253 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: Um okay, I want to bring up this line because 254 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: I was a little confused by it. Matthew eleven, sixteen. Um, 255 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: if we may, you know, I really I told you, guys, 256 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: I wish I had my high school Bible which was hot, 257 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: pink and black and said my name, I love how 258 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: slutty hot topic that is. Yeah, like the Bible itself, 259 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: like the cover or your highlighter was like pink, No, 260 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: the cover, the cover it was the Bible was actually 261 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: get you guys, love this a gift from my eighth 262 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: grade graduation from River Rogues Baptist School and they give 263 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: me a slutty pink Bible. Wow. Wait, Like the cover 264 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: was because like girls get a pink Bible, yeah, boys 265 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: got blue because gender right and if a man hath 266 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: unto him a woman, and she doth commit adultery, You 267 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: shall take her eye out. Do not test your husband. 268 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: You are on a treadmill forwards Jesus, with him side 269 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: by side at all times. I was surprised that at 270 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: some point they say like they're like, okay, divorce is allowed, 271 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: but also like not encouraged. They kind of well, from 272 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: why I was understanding on Wikipedia, which is some would 273 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: say the modern Bible, it was kind of saying like 274 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: New Tests was being a little bit more like, listen, 275 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: we know that people are doing divorce, and they are 276 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: doing a lot of cops are open. That's kind of 277 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: happening now, so we're gonna kind of turn all of 278 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: the like you know, you can only eat a goat 279 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: with three toes or whatever thing into like a little 280 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: bit more of like metaphor vibes, and everything's being like 281 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more of just like Jesus is kind 282 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: of speaking broadly and just being like and if you 283 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: feel that that's wrong, like that that's wrong. But ultimately 284 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: his love is light, and my stone is bread, and 285 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: bread it is water, but water is you, and I 286 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: have to go. I have to there's a there's a 287 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: passion that spoke to me as a girl boss. If 288 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: I may so, it's John sixteen twenty one. We all 289 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: know it um. A woman when she is in travail, 290 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: hath sorrow because her hour has come, But as soon 291 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: as she is delivered of the child, she remembers no 292 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: more the anguish for joy that a man is born 293 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: into the world. And I took child here to be 294 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: a metaphor for like posting to social media whatever, Like 295 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: when you are creating a video, it is hell and 296 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: it is travail, but then when you post, it's very like, oh, 297 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: I've birthed a man that is so wise. And I 298 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: think that's exactly how I felt shooting my special. I 299 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: was like, okay, through Christ unto me is born and 300 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: it was travail, and you were like, my hour has 301 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: come like it was and it was serving my hour U. 302 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: But ultimately, content is a man. Content. You think content 303 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: is a man. You know, I am appearing content to 304 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: me a strachio woman. But see this is where I 305 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: think it's reversed. And you're only saying that because you're 306 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: like a vicious consumptive tope. But I think I think 307 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: I am herod. I think because if you think about it, 308 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: if you think about it, like, oh, we think men colonize, 309 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: they conquer whatever. But like what is the ultimate consumer? 310 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: You know, the woman, the whole, the cavern. The woman 311 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: takes it, takes in all. And so content is just 312 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: like a dick that you're taking in, whereas like to 313 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: view something is inherently receptive. Right. So when I post, 314 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm wearing a star ball yeah yes, yes, party, And 315 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: when I scroll, I am spreading my legs. If a 316 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: man can post, I can post too, and I can 317 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: post multiple times a day. And that is Kardashian seven twelve. No, 318 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: Courtney posted, I sent it to you guys a John today. 319 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Let me just pull it up, Yeah, she said John fortnight. 320 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: Today she posted that, yeah we love because he first 321 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: loved us, which is that's so true? Literally is so true. 322 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: Can I say something you know about that? And this 323 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: is where I really kind of as I was reading this, 324 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, Jesus, he's running around there's so much geography 325 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: in this book. He's really not I mean, he's so 326 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: van life. As you said, he looks like he's across 327 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: and he's just like going from town to town lake 328 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: to land. It's just endless, just been like and then 329 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: after Ushallah and Malabath, we went to Zaba Loon and 330 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: everywhere his fan life ask goes, it's just him being like, 331 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: oh I can save you. Oh, actually, all you need 332 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: to do is love me and you'll be fine. It's 333 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: just like the narcissism. It's really outrageous, the savior complex 334 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: and just like maybe he is literally the savior, but 335 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: it's just like, how do you get to that point 336 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: without thinking like, I'm so amazing. All you have to 337 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: do is love me and your problems are solved. This 338 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: episode is sponsored by Zoktok. 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He's very only child, yes, because it's 371 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: just like when he goes to that wedding, the infamous 372 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: water to wine moment. He goes to the wedding and 373 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: he's like there with his entire squad and he's like, 374 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: my mom, sash Mary Magdalen, can we have wine? And 375 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: she's like, we only have water, and he's like pissed. 376 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: Then he's at this dry wedding and then it's like, fine, 377 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: I'm turning it all into wine. And then the mom, 378 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: which is also classic boy mom to like think your 379 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: son is like the most amazing. Yeah, it's fully asking 380 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: Michael Imperioli for fifty thousand years. Steven doesn't wait. Sorry, 381 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: I've seen a couple episodes of Hotel Room. Yeah, interesting 382 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: thing to abstain from at this time, but I'm famous contrarian. 383 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: I cannot do what is popular. However, obviously I've had 384 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: the edding spoiled to me by social media, and I 385 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: gat it, and that's really interesting. No, the thing is 386 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: I want to be clear about this, Like I literally 387 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: love God. I think God is amazing. But God is 388 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: not Bible. It's me, right, what is God? What is 389 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: God to you? Like a tree nature? If I had 390 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: to go there, we all believe in God? M okay, 391 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: yeah I did for like four weeks after reading Mariam 392 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: Williamson's book. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I was 393 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: absolutely on board. I was like, she is the divine 394 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: and she is everywhere and she is love and she 395 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: is like coming back to my authentic truth and just 396 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: like I am in her and I believe that something 397 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: connects us all and like the collective consciousness is real 398 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: and like I am not like an island and to 399 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: myself or should I be? But I have forgotten about that, 400 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: I guess, But gone, when did you? I guess even 401 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: did you like when did you stop like it just 402 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: you went to France or something like that? Did you 403 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: just vacation kind of well, I think, which really says 404 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: like my God is actually just like travel, and so 405 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: it's like and then when I actually go to France, 406 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I forgot about needing kind of that, 407 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: because like, ultimately God is a crutch. I think, and 408 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: so it's just like when you forget about the crutch 409 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: and you're just living your life, like you can call 410 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: that God, but like you're not actually calling a god 411 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: because you're busy living. Yeah, you really need God when 412 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: you're like in New York in your home office, you're 413 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: not nothing to look forward to. That's when you really 414 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: need God. Yeah. For me, I don't believe in God, 415 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: but I truly do believe in Santa in this way, 416 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: like I is a god my boyfriend. That's because like 417 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I feel like he does represent Like I know he's 418 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: not quote unquote real, but like there is like a 419 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: joyfulness and I guess that's what and he is man 420 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: with the beard like because I feel like when I 421 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: was young, I was like, how do I know if God? 422 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: Because I went to Unitarian Sunday School where they just 423 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: teach you obviously about like other religions and it's just 424 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: like more school. And so I was like, wait, no, 425 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: there is a god and it is like a guy 426 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: with white hair and he lives on a cloud. And 427 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: I was like looking for that sign that was real 428 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: and that kind of faded away, but I was like, 429 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: Santa also has a white beard and lives, you know, 430 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: in snow, and there's all these things and like he 431 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: it's sinning naughty and nice, you know, I mean, you 432 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: know there's something about about the all father, you know, 433 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: other religions. Obviously in Norse tradition, Odin does have a 434 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: beard sometimes and he's sort of like an old man, 435 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: and there is this comfort right in the masculine elder um, 436 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: who we look up to, who has been there before us, 437 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: who is strength, who's even like maybe feels safer than 438 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: the dad figure because the grandfather is maybe not gonna 439 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: like fuck you in the same way because he's like 440 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: a little he can't get out of bed in the 441 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: same way. Um. And so yeah, I think I think 442 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: we all seek that. It's it's hard not to. And 443 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: the grandfather, yeah, the grandfather figure versus the father versus 444 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: the vane. But yeah, f Marie Abraham exactly because he 445 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: is like also being like, yeah, trigs are hot, but 446 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: it's like in like a cute grandpa way. Yeah, there's 447 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: something charmine about like that sort of lectrousness when it's 448 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: over the age of seven. Dude, Hugh Hefner, right, I mean, 449 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: Hugh Hefner is a Santa to many. Yeah, um, Lily, 450 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: I really see the light of God within you, so 451 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: oh do it that way you will? I mean, I 452 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: mean there's also something about Italian and like being a 453 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: childhood divorce, but also like food and Christmas and everything 454 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: season and it's sagittarius, it's roast. I do feel a 455 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: little bit knowing that I was baptized. I do feel 456 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: a little bit saved. M hmmm, just in case, literally, 457 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: just in case, we're so, did you have a bott 458 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: and then became Christian? No, I have to My mom's 459 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: side is extremely Catholic, so which is different than it's 460 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: evangelical stuff. The evangelic stuff was truly just to be 461 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: a popular girl at my school. It worked. I wasn't 462 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: not popular, but I wasn't top tier. That was my 463 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: b list. Okay, yeah, like I was. He he was 464 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: at the party, but I wasn't invited because I wasn't sexual. 465 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't sexual, so there was no need to have 466 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: me around. Did you collect pens um in a way? Okay, 467 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: like yeah, high highlights. I know what you're saying, but 468 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: that's not that's not what it was. But I literally 469 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: know exactly what you're saying. I know you get it, 470 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: and I know you have the pen can picture. I 471 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: actually have a bit of a masculine energy when it 472 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: comes to academia. Like my handwriting's bad so which means, 473 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: of course guy's girl so hot. And I think because 474 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: I have pcos, I actually have extra testosterone. Oh in 475 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: that way, I didn't collect highlighters. And that's why you 476 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: like whiskey exactly. Oh oh oh, anyways, yeah, I was 477 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: baptized and confirmed Catholic. Oh you are, oh absolutely not. No, nothing, no. 478 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: Then you know, my parents raised me as a freelancer. 479 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: They were very they were busy working their jobs and 480 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: having a sort of a rotating string of nanny's every year, 481 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: and so I was kept away from the church, um, 482 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: and I was taught that the church was wrong. We 483 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: only went to the church to like buy a Christmas tree. 484 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: The only Christian moment I had was seven am Mass 485 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: Easter morning on the ski slope once and Slope and Vermont. 486 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: It was something, you know, it was like my mom 487 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: thought would be this like, you know, sort of interesting 488 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: beautiful thing. But I think it was her trying to 489 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: reconcile her Catholic upbringing with her, like now you know, 490 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: atheist family, and both of you guys went on like 491 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: religious religious ski outings is religious? Well, you know when 492 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: when you go when you go fast down a hill, 493 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: you do start field godlike a little bit because you're 494 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: kind of like you're at the extreme of what nature 495 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: can let you do. Gravity, right, gravity is God's work. No, 496 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: I mean last time skiing, I that's I like. I 497 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: think I actually did start praying when we went skiing 498 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: last year informant because I was in it was so 499 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: horrible and I was like, I was in ill fitting equipment. 500 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: I was like the fear of God was within me. 501 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: My legs hurt so much they're about to give out, 502 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: and I literally was like praying. I was like, just 503 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: literally get for this. I think you need to be 504 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: a border border chick. I want to be a border 505 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: chick so bad. But I'm like, I feel like that 506 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: involves even better balance than I already have. Do you board? No? No, okay, 507 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: you're more skiing? Um okay. I want to bring up 508 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: another girl bossy quote in here, and this is um 509 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: I think it's Matthew and again. And when the King 510 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: came in to see the guests, he saw there were 511 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: a man which had not on a wedding garment and 512 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: he said, unto him, friend, how earnest thou in hither 513 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless, which 514 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: is like I feel like literally just like when like 515 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: it's about how like men don't like girls are like 516 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: shocked or like you're just getting your tucks now like 517 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: yeah before the women very you're just getting your tucks 518 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: and they're just like you can't rely on them for anything. 519 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: And he's just like, what what's wrong with this? She's like, 520 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: you're not going to wear a vest. You need to 521 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: wear a vest. All the groomsmen are wearing a vest. 522 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: You need to wear vents, you need to wear the 523 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: shoes you need, like are you serious? And God and 524 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: that and then and that was God. God was God 525 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: saying that, Yeah, Lily, can I ask is your version? 526 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: So my version, I'm all the all the Word of 527 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: God isn't red. I've actually bought the Bible on my 528 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: kindle for one ninety nine, so I can't. I can't. 529 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: I hadn't looked at it in so long it scares me. 530 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: Okayenberg found dead Press bye on like my kindle, which 531 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: is from twenty fifteen and it's like so slow, and 532 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: it's just like Bible one ninety nine charge it is 533 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: a should be free yeah, but I mean honestly, it's 534 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: still a deal the amount of wisdom you're getting for 535 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: two dollars. I feel like I read the Bible lesson. 536 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: I was more interested. There was this book my friends 537 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: and I were all obsessed with called Redeeming Love. It 538 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: was a novel about a prostitute who like gets to 539 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: find love through Jesus by like praying and being a 540 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: virgin again. Wow, And I used to want my crush 541 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: to see me reading it. What was the cover? Was 542 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: it like a prostitute? It's a woman a red dress. 543 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, well, it's interesting because it's like there's the 544 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: twin desires there where it's like you obviously, I mean, 545 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: the Bible is obviously still full of sex, and the 546 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: New Testament still I think sex courses through it despite 547 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: that it's not maybe as obvious and negative as the 548 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: Old Testament. But like it's like you wanted to be 549 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: the reformed prostitute, you know what I mean, where it's 550 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: like you you you still wanted to be pure and 551 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: you wanted this like sort of patina of naughtiness, but 552 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: you wanted it like in your past, like you had 553 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: rejected it so you could still be pure. Oh I 554 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: have the Kardashians always been Christian. They've well because they've 555 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: always been. Because the thing is when they're when they 556 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: like want the other sister to take them seriously, they 557 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: say Bible, Oh my god. They're always just like Bieball, 558 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: like it just means I'm about to say something really 559 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: important or like Okay. So this book that you read, 560 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: it's more of like a deb it's more like a 561 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: Southern deb. On the cover, she's kind of wearing like 562 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: a godden with the wind dress. Yeah. I was picturing 563 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: like kind of like a cartoony when this night and 564 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: it's not like an old timey prostitute. Wait and I 565 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: have a question. Did you did you have a debb Ball? 566 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: Do you have a coming out moment or Contellian? Absolutely not. 567 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: I M I did attend one or two dead balls, 568 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: But that was not my family's vibe were they were 569 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: the Cotillions Christian in nature or Morgan like that was 570 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: more like the A List popular or just generational wealth vibes. 571 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: B List was like cool Christian girls beyond that I 572 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: don't remember. You're like the rest were losers, so I 573 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: remember what they were doing. I really blacked out all 574 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: those years. Is this traumatic for us to kind of 575 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: bring you back to No, I don't. Honestly reading those 576 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: verses though, it just makes me like it does make 577 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: me a little upset. I'm like, this is so fucked up. 578 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: Like I think if my parents knew how intense it was, 579 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have wanted me to be involved. It really 580 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: is crazy because you were rebelling m hmm against them 581 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: with like insane Christianity. They were like what is going 582 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: on here? Like you were like original, just like TikTok 583 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: Mauga girl, Oh my god, but that stuff is so 584 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: insane where it's just like two women. I'll be grinding 585 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: at the mill. The one shall be taken and the 586 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: other You're like, end what this? This makes no sense? 587 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: One girl works in a mill and the other doesn't. 588 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: That's like sometimes life is life is like that. I 589 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: think Jesus message is very just like sometimes you're at 590 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: the mill and sometimes you're not. It's kind of like 591 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: sometimes and sometimes you're working on a project, right, Yeah, 592 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it is very like stop complaining, 593 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: which I think is generally good advice. Um that, I 594 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about the Last Supper for a second. 595 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: Do you remember this scene in Luke where they're at 596 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: the Last Supper. They're having all this unleavened bread, which 597 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: sounds very like flat to me? Right, is that like 598 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: kind of that mean? Or is it more flat bread 599 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: like Armenian lavash? I was thinking lavash as they make 600 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: it on the Creda Shared, which is like in our 601 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: really only reference for Christianity, it seems yeah, but when 602 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: they like go to our media for that one episode 603 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: and Kanye is just like, oh my God, like we 604 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: invented a church and then they leave. But like, I 605 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: wonder if it is mazza, because I I know that 606 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: that's very important in religion as well. But I guess 607 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: that's more Jewish. But I can't picture them eating I 608 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: feel like in that famous painting, they're not eating mazza 609 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: of the Last Supper? No to me, well, the whole 610 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: there's again so much bread in this book. No, I 611 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean I like, where where is the 612 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: end dive salads? Like where's the thank you? So they're 613 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: having this bread, but then heat is this thing where 614 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: he I didn't realize this um because i'd sort of 615 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: never read this originally when I heard this story. And 616 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: by this story, I mean when I listened to the 617 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: song Judas by Lady Gaga, But I didn't realize that 618 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: so like Judas the famous Trader is like at the 619 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: dinner with them, and Jesus knew, and he does this 620 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: thing where he's like, but behold the hand of him 621 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: that betrayeth me is with me on the table. Oh 622 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: and and he's so it's like he's being so clue, 623 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: he's being so knives out, just be like, the murder 624 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: is here. It's also giving, like real housewives. It's very 625 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: they're going on a trip together, and it's like, I 626 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: can't believe she's at the table. Yeah, it's giving, she's 627 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: at the table. But then he's just like, guess who 628 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: the murder is? An Now it's a murder mystery dinner party, 629 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: and we're all just like so, it's actually so like 630 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: Polly Adult gamestery party. I think I would like a 631 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: murder mystery party. Honestly, I was actually looking up some 632 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: They look really fun. I have, Okay, my my parents 633 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: used to do them with their wine. Tasting club. Honestly, 634 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm worried. Well, one of the guys that they're wine 635 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: tasting is an actual a warlock and he was always 636 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: single and now just like does that just mean he 637 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: was gay? And he was always wearing like an amulet, 638 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: and I remember it they did and like one of 639 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: their parties, I played the dead body. Oh my god, 640 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: I booked it. I booked it. I booked the role 641 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: and I was like so into it and it was 642 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: being such a hag and just like all the adults 643 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: were having all their wine and breathe just like reading 644 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: their note cards, just being like was it, Pamela. I mean, 645 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: your parents are so eighties nive out. I feel like 646 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: they would be like having a dinner party. Then someone 647 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: actually would be like caught dead in the love. I 648 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: would say, okay, wait a couple of other things before 649 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: we go to segments. Um, I mean one thing that's 650 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: truck me over this. I feel like I was a 651 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: little bit star struck reading this. I was like herod 652 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: or like just like kind of the book, Like you 653 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: get to a like a phrase that's you know, just 654 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 1: like a house divide it cannot say, and you're like, wow, 655 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: like this is where this comes from me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 656 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: it's kind of random. You're like, wow, like this is 657 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: just a quick little line in this random book and 658 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: just like everybody's been saying this for two thousand years. 659 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: It is like this comedy special that it's like the 660 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 1: office people are like, yeah, people are still super Bible. 661 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: Is the British office? Yeah? Wait is a British office 662 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: Old Testament and American office? Yes, Steve Corral is my 663 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: Jesus and he can get it. When do you think 664 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: Jesus is coming back? Or no? Oh, that's such a 665 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: good question. Okay, did you used to think and like 666 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: Ozark days, when did you think Jesus will come back 667 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: like in your lifetime? No? I kind of still was 668 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: like I don't think so. I don't know. It seemed 669 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: a bit much. Seemed a bit much. Yeah, I what 670 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: is like the destruction of the world. That's like the 671 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: because I feel like that is obviously coming. Yeah, that 672 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: is sort of concurrent with second coming? Is here is 673 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm almost crazy. It's almost like maybe Jesus already came 674 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: back and like left again. I could see this happening, 675 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: where like there were some people who knew about it, 676 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: but they kind of like and then also some people 677 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: missed it and they felt like, oh fuck, that was him, 678 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: wasn't it. He was and he was just there for 679 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: like forty five minutes and it's kind of awkward, and 680 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: now everyone's kind of pretending like he's got to come back, 681 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: and it's like you actually just missed it, Like that 682 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: was it like like a celebrity wearing a wig at 683 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: a restaurant and you're like you see them, yeah, usuallye them. 684 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,479 Speaker 1: It was amazing he was there and like he wasn't 685 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: even in Nazareth, just like he was randomly just like 686 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: in Vancouver for like forty five minutes out of lunch 687 00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: and then like that was a Vancouver and we're kind 688 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: of just like, you've never been to Vancouver. I feel 689 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: like it's so I guess I think it's like you're 690 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: famous and they like, you know, there's very did you 691 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: ship off like hot teams there to shoot c W shows? Yeah, 692 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: and they come back seven years later and there's like 693 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: billionaires but they have no friends or life, they don't 694 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: know how to speak to people, and they're dressed like 695 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: I shot three seasons of the Elder Crown like and 696 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: it was canceled even before we shot the first season somehow. Um, 697 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: you know my parents had their honeymoon in vans with 698 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: the Warlock. Yeh, their third Yeah. They were like white 699 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: loadus sharing rooms like connecting rooms with the Warlock Vancouver 700 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: in the seventies. It was see that's I feel like 701 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: Jesus did come back in the seventies in Vancouver and 702 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: he visited your parents on their honeymoon and he was worse. 703 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: Since then, it's actually been all downhill because that was 704 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: the ultimate cult time and everyone was looking like him, 705 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: so everyone was looking dislike him. Yeah, everyone was being 706 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: very long hair fair enough. Where did your parents honeymoon? 707 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very quick cap. Everyone go around and say 708 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: were your parents? These are icebreakers that we used at 709 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: campos Ark. Oh my god, he to send y'all picks 710 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: from this place. It is really like, oh, um, my parents, 711 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: I believe honeymoon in Hawaii? Okay, fucking sexy, very classic. 712 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: They were twenty five, l um, that's so beautiful strong today. 713 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: Apparently they had sex last night and it was awesome. 714 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: Um No, they were just told me recently that they 715 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: had like a Catholic I think they had a Catholic 716 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: priest marry them, but he was hitting on one of 717 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: the bridesmaids, which is incredible. Wait, okay, so no priests 718 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: are gay your first I'm literally trying to think. I'm like, 719 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: did you guys honeymoon? I know they did a euro 720 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: backpacking trip when my sister was one. Oh my god, 721 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: cute um and we're so alps, But I don't I 722 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: honestly will have to ask my mom, like, I don't know. 723 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: I know they just did. They had a wedding, and 724 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: then I know they did like a second wedding for 725 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: all my dad's like Italian relatives. They got kak Yeah, 726 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: and just let us know and you can share whatever 727 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: you're comfortable with in terms of the details. Do you 728 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: keep this? Ay, club kids, you're about to hear a 729 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: clip from this week's vip lounge. Buckle up because we're 730 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: talking about Miss Roman's Christmas party, gift GUIDs, etc. Television 731 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: show Seattle. But I will say it was the perfect 732 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: amount of curated and like bountiful, bountiful like preparation where 733 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,959 Speaker 1: it just had all this look available, all this amazing food. 734 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: The hams to mean but subscribe on patreon dot com, 735 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: slash CBC the pod to get more content like that 736 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: every single week for only five dollars a month? Oh 737 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: what does she eat? What does she live? How does 738 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: she do she wear? What do wear? How does she live? Okay, 739 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: let's start with what does she wear? I think it's interesting. 740 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: I think God is obviously very robes and rags. Um 741 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: modern Jesus like would obviously be more just like art. 742 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: Oh wow, actually, but isn't it more evangelicised verin like 743 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: really long t shirts and tight pants. Oh, I know 744 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: what you mean. I think there's two. There's actually two Jesus, 745 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: is there is? There's like super Polly long shirt hemp 746 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: like from a weird many necklaces wide, a lot of 747 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: rings and bracelets, the beads. Yeah, but then I also 748 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: see this like car Heart just like double knee pants 749 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: Tan living out of his car in Bushwick and like 750 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: yeah slay like New Girl every night, full fuck boy, 751 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: come to Galilee with me, Beanie. That's true sounds hog 752 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: car Heart Jesus and like et see Jesus, I think. 753 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: And then back then it was obviously like more rags 754 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: and robes and everyone was just always in like the 755 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: most perfectly like modest toga that was just like hanging 756 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: just so like you putt do you think prostitutes of sorry, 757 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: sex workers of Nazareth? Like were they in this dress 758 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: that s w the Swan sex workers Nazareth? Was it 759 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: like were they in like kind of like more you know, 760 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: scantily clad things. Do we think or was it like 761 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: ankle vibes? Right, you're just showing ankle and wrist. I 762 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: feel like I think it's one shoulder. I also think 763 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: it's just like weird subtle things that maybe wouldn't see 764 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just like oh, like she 765 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 1: has like one fern leaflet like on on the left shoulder. 766 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of hanky, Cody, Oh, that means she takes 767 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: it up with the ass and like she's down or 768 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: it's like the back of the dress is dirty in 769 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: this weird way. We were like, oh, I know why 770 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean I bet 771 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 1: the back of the dress is like so dirty because 772 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: it's like so much clay. Feel like everything is probably 773 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: so dirty back then, like the way that sand sacks constantly. Okay, 774 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: what does she eat up? Sea and bread, bread, olive oil, rosemary, 775 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: very like dips. It's very like tura like Tura massol, 776 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: like dozeki. Yeah, like hmas totally. I guess I never 777 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: saw hamas mentioned in this book, but like, yeah, because 778 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: did they do yogurt like a saziki? Is that happening? 779 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: Because I guess it is so goat, So they're like, 780 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 1: has dairy happened? Day's definitely happening. I feel like they're 781 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: always like milking a cow. It's such a metaphor, right, Okay, 782 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: I actually I just not this is against the rules, 783 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: But I did just google hummus in the Bible, and 784 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: it does say Ruth and Boaz met in Bethlehem and 785 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 1: he offered her what seems to have been an ancient 786 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: form of Hammas. He said, come hither and eat of 787 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: the bread and dip thy morsel and vinegar. They do 788 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: talk about vinegar a lot, and I think that maybe 789 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: vinegar has like is like maybe an overly like a 790 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: broad translation for a lot of different things, because it 791 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: could be wine. I mean, it's also probably how they 792 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: could be apple juice, it could be alive oil, it 793 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: could be maybe even hummus in this case, a dip 794 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: of vinegar, right, because there's that thing where Jesus is 795 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: on the cross. Do you remember that? And like some 796 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: like towns person gives some vinegar from like a leaf 797 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: or something. I mean, and it's like if I'm dying, 798 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: do I want to just drink straight vinegar? Actually maybe 799 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: because it's like so good for you? Right again it's yeah, 800 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,919 Speaker 1: it's apple said. It's they're doing shots of apple side 801 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: or vinegar for like gut health, like the right if 802 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: you're being crucified, like a way to boost f immune 803 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: system is drink vinegar. Top ten things to eat before 804 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: you get crucified. Um, meatwise, I was gonna say, I 805 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: feel like it feels very like classic Thanksgiving, Like it's 806 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: all like spit fire, not Thanksgiving like Christmas, like limb 807 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: rows some like braised chicken, chicken too, jeans. All one's 808 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: very good. Yeah, it's a dinner party good Yeah, winter 809 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: dinner party stuff. You know, roof vegetables, yes, tons of vegetables. 810 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: Squash Is that too far? Lily? I think you're getting 811 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: to a tumnal like we're talking about it's real here, 812 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I mean, maybe they do a 813 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: squash over there. Who are you in the book? Cat? 814 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: Isn't there? Like a wife who takes a bath on 815 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: a roof or is that old Testament. I'm sure there 816 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: is somewhere. Yeah, there's so few women in the in 817 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: this amazing book. Um yeah yeah, always like a wife. 818 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: It's always just like kind of general wife vibes because 819 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: there's so many women an old Testament in this book. 820 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: I was like, this is so Boston movie. Everyone is like, oh, 821 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: meet my brother Tom's friend Simon, and like we're going 822 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: out with Matthew, Luke and John. You're like this lacrosse team. 823 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: I kind of think maybe I'm marry just because obviously, 824 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: I'll say it, she's a liar, like she obviously was 825 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: cheating on Joseph and I got pregnant and then was 826 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: just like, okay, randomly immaculate conception. It'sn't that crazy. And 827 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: Joseph was like obviously like sad and couldn't get it 828 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: up and was just like so cocked and was just like, wow, 829 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: my pure wife got pregnant, and it's like, babe, read 830 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: the room. You know. I've been keeping up the sharade 831 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: for years to protect Joseph, I know, to protect his 832 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: fucking fragile mele You go. Men are garbage people. Thank 833 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: you the trash On three twelve. Men are garbage waits. 834 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: I finally looked up, oh, Austin three sixteen, and I 835 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: guess that was him. I thought it was like him 836 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: being Christian, but it was him actually just being like, No, 837 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: Austin three sixteen is I'll whip your ass like as 838 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: to another wrestler. You guys sort of looked so blank. Me. 839 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: I looked up John three sixteen and it was about 840 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: getting into Heaven, and I was like, that's interesting. I 841 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 1: forgot Austin. I mean, Austin's not one of the books. 842 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: No no no, no, so stonecalls Steve Auston, but like on 843 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 1: all of his T shirts it says Stone three sixteen. 844 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: I thought always his thing was that Bible quote. But 845 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: I looked at that, but it was like there was 846 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: another wrestler that I guess was being so Bible quote 847 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: and he was like suck this like Austin three sixteen, 848 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: like I'll whip your ass. Um, Okay, anyway, could you guys? 849 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: I hate I hate that. We still like it's just 850 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: it's unfair to you because you did explain it again, 851 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: but we still don't. We're moving on, and um, that's 852 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: what podcasting is it's raw and it's real and for 853 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: God's to love the world that he said his only 854 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: begotten son et cetera. And I always you guys, I 855 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: hate to do this. I have to herd right now. 856 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: I want you Okay, Well, I guess actually it turns 857 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 1: out you're fucking Jesus because you're always like parting ways 858 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: going to Galilee and like another city. Um, I guess 859 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm John. I don't know why, but I'm just saying 860 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: that I'm the girl on the bath in the roof. 861 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: I give this book, I don't know, two out of five. 862 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: Like Floggings, I'm a little bit just like it kind 863 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: of skips over stuff really quickly, but then there's so 864 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: much bored stuff where it's like and then anyone here, 865 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: and it's just like, I don't know, let's give a 866 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: little more color in here. Give me a one point 867 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: seven Mason jars of natural wine out of five. I'm 868 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: just like it repeats itself. It's confusing, but it makes 869 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 1: me feel like I should understand it, so it makes 870 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: me feel stupid, which I don't like. Kat what's your rating? Um? 871 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: Like seven? Seven? Hemp Friendship bracelets passed amongst the girls 872 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: just braiding each other. Christians love love, love to wear 873 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:56,919 Speaker 1: lots of bracelets and necklaces. So true, Kat, You've given 874 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:02,399 Speaker 1: us so much wisdom today. This has really been you. Guys. 875 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: Actually read the book. I try and live the book. 876 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: But I'll keep praying about it and I'll pray for 877 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:16,280 Speaker 1: y'all tonight, and thank you. I'll pray for you too, Okay, 878 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: praying for you both, honestly, Um, as I make sex 879 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: noises in my bunk away for murder dinner, murder dinner 880 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 1: at murdered dinner, Kat, Um, I'm sure I'm not going 881 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: to ask you where people can find you, because that's 882 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: honestly the dumbest thing anyone could ask. It's just like 883 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: they can look. Thank you for trying to get on 884 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: TikTok or y'all on tick. That's not something I can 885 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 1: do at my age. I am to browse other Christian 886 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: pages girl defined yet, but we do have to talk 887 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,919 Speaker 1: about that in person next week. 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