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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And this is Joe McCormick.

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Speaker 2: For today's episode, I wanted to take our first steps

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Speaker 2: on Weird House Cinema into the world of Indonesian cinema

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Speaker 2: as I just recently returned from Indonesia. I'll share more

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Speaker 2: about that trip on subsequent episodes of Stuff to Blow

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Speaker 2: Your Mind, because I did get to experience some things

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Speaker 2: to tie into our core science episodes. But now having

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the natural beauty and hospitality of the Indonesian isles,

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Speaker 2: I also knew it was time to watch some of

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Speaker 2: its weirdest movies.

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Speaker 3: You picked a real winner for us today, Rob, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to spoil it before you finish your

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Speaker 3: introduction to the film. But it's hard to imagine the

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Speaker 3: cinema of any country could get much weirder than the

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Speaker 3: movie we're talking about today.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think there's a strong case to

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Speaker 2: be made for weirder examples of Indonesian cinema, but this one,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It lines up in several unique ways.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll go ahead and mention it here for

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Speaker 2: anyone who hasn't looked at the title of the episode

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Speaker 2: we were talking about the nineteen eighty eight Indonesian folk car, Mockbuster,

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Speaker 2: Lady Terminator. Yes, it is all of those things.

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Speaker 3: It's like if you wanted James Cameron's Terminator but you

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Speaker 3: thought it didn't have enough ancient deep sea sex goddesses

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Speaker 2: Exactly, yes, And you might also think to yourself, Terminator

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Speaker 2: is good, but are there enough machine guns? Could there

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Speaker 2: be more machine guns? And you know, I dare say,

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Speaker 2: without actually going back and rewatching James Cameron's Terminator, I

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Speaker 2: think this film has more machine guns.

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Speaker 3: I think that's without a doubt. And in fact, you

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Speaker 3: could you could sense moments in this movie. There's almost

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Speaker 3: like an anxiety you can feel going scene to scene

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Speaker 3: where it's like you since the filmmaker's wondering if they've

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Speaker 3: put enough gunfire into the scene yet, and so like

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Speaker 3: something will happen, characters will be talking, and then more

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Speaker 3: people will run into frame and start shooting guns again.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, there's a point about between halfway and

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Speaker 2: two thirds into the film where it's just gonna be

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Speaker 2: machine guns for the duration and it never gets boring.

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Speaker 3: Like to their credit, I've said this on the show before.

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Speaker 3: I can get quite bored with a movie that's just

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Speaker 3: shots of people shooting guns at each other like that

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Speaker 3: can get really tedious. This maintains a hilarious level of

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Speaker 3: novelty throughout all of the Act two and Act three

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Speaker 3: gun fights. It stays weird and it stays funny, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: it did not get boring for me at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we tend to talk about exploitation films and b

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Speaker 2: films that are cut above the rest, so it is

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Speaker 2: worth stressing that exploitation cinema is exactly where you tend

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Speaker 2: to find excess taken to the level of boredom, like

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Speaker 2: films that have a lot of nudity, for example, But

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Speaker 2: it's just meaningless and boring after a while. And the

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Speaker 2: same with violence, the same with gore, the same with

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Speaker 2: profanity or whatever flavor you happen to be over indulging in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very easy as a filmmaker to make them

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Speaker 3: to have the mistaken belief that like, violence is exciting,

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Speaker 3: and it's not true. Drama is exciting and violence can

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Speaker 3: be a form of drama. But but yeah, so a

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Speaker 3: lot of movies kind of go down that the wrong

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Speaker 3: path of just like lots of close ups of and

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Speaker 3: it just goes on, never really feels like it's building

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Speaker 3: to anything. This movie's action sequences are so bonker they

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Speaker 3: are bananas, and the dialogue during the action scenes especially

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Speaker 3: is some of the funniest stuff I can think of,

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Speaker 3: and I've seen in a B movie in a long time.

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Speaker 2: Some aspects of the story might be confusing at times,

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Speaker 2: character motivations and so forth, but there were multiple points

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Speaker 2: remind myself that, you know, this action scene is totally

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Speaker 2: sticking together. Though like I'm I'm totally invested in the

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Speaker 2: physical action that's happening on screen, they are totally delivering

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the action, all right. At this point,

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Speaker 2: I do want to take just one step back and

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Speaker 2: just briefly talk about Indonesian cinema with more of an

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Speaker 2: emphasis on some of the exploitation cinema that perhaps more

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Speaker 2: weird house cinema listeners are familiar with. But of course,

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Speaker 2: the Republic of Indonesia covers some seventeen thousand islands in

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Speaker 2: Southeast Asia and Oceania, entailing multiple ethnic groups and the

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of.

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Speaker 2: People there, and as discussed in a documentary on Indonesian

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Speaker 2: exploitation cinema on the Mondo Macabro disc that I watched

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Speaker 2: was reading elsewhere dates back to the nineteen twenties, with

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventies, the market is dominated by foreign imports, films

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Speaker 2: during the nineteen seventies the Indonesian government decreed that in

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Speaker 2: and by nineteen seventy seven, according to that Mando Macabro documentary,

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Speaker 3: Wow. I was not prepared for there to be a

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Speaker 3: policy backstory to us talking about Lady Terminator.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there are a lot of factors

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Speaker 2: obviously a lot of passion. I mean, there are so

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Speaker 2: many examples of films that have been made because of

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Speaker 2: tax breaks or some economic production factor, some sort of

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Speaker 2: into what many people describe as a Golden Age of

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Speaker 2: Indonesian genre film. A lot of these pictures were, you know,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of it was often colored by traditional folklore,

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Speaker 2: you've probably are probably familiar with nineteen eighty six is

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Speaker 2: The Hungry Snake Woman starring Susanna who's like often described

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Speaker 2: I mean, it definitely is that.

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Speaker 3: It very much is that. I mean in like recreating

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Speaker 2: So it is definitely a Terminator mockbuster. But on the

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Speaker 2: other hand, it is again a a a horror movie

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Speaker 2: based on to some degree on Indonesian folklore, specifically tales

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Speaker 2: concerning the South Sea Queen. And I believe my apologies

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Speaker 2: Folklore Studies back in nineteen ninety seven by Robert Wessing,

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Speaker 3: Kind of a super powerful saltwater succubus, like a sex

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Speaker 2: Yes of the eel of the snake. Wessing does compare

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Speaker 2: her to various other traditions in this region and neighboring

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Speaker 2: other you obviously you have hungry snake queens, you have

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Speaker 2: crocodile queens. So this does feel like it's perhaps a

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Speaker 2: familiar trope in Indonesian folklore and certainly in exploitation cinema,

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Speaker 2: based some degree on those folk tales. All right, well,

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Speaker 2: elevator pitch for this one. All I have to say

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Speaker 2: is the south Sea Queen cannot be reasoned with. She

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Speaker 3: Or until her machine gun jams. And then she has

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Speaker 3: To be fair, that's not actually the south Sea Queen.

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Speaker 3: That is the embodiment of the south Sea queens magic,

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Speaker 3: The Anthropologist, the anthropomon is the Lady Terminator.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think this is a fair point. I

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Speaker 3: The other thing is, does the South Sea Queen actually

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Speaker 3: turn her into a robot like the T eight hundred Interminator.

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Speaker 3: There are reasons for thinking that. For one thing, she

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Speaker 3: like in Terminator. But also there's no otherwise, there's no

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Speaker 3: seem to be just a magically possessed being. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I get the impression that via magical possession, her body

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Speaker 3: Eyes Okay, yeah, those are magic laser eyes, not high

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Speaker 2: Right, that's magical energy. That's like, I don't know, radiant

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Speaker 2: damage or something. All right, let's go ahead and listen

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Speaker 2: and just just a little bit of the trailer here,

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Speaker 2: not the whole thing, but just a little bit to

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Speaker 2: give folks a taste.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes the past should be left to memory, to gather

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Speaker 4: dust within the covers of recorded time.

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Speaker 5: In one hundred years, I'll have my revenge on your

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Speaker 5: great granddaughter.

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Speaker 4: One of the funds the secret of the South Sea

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Speaker 4: Queen will live in great danger of a song.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes I will. But how is she to know?

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Speaker 2: All right now, If you want to watch Lady Termine,

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Speaker 2: But let's start at the top with the director credited

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Speaker 2: seventy four through nineteen ninety four. Director of numerous cult

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Speaker 3: Oh, I just had to google it. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: Here there. I'm trying to imagine what so like American

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Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, this is yeah, this is nothing

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. Evidently someone did write it. There

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there's one part we'll probably go back to

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the cast here. Oh, the star.

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Speaker 3: This is a classic case of don't you hate when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go scuba diving by yourself. My wife was quick

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Speaker 3: So who's Barbara Ann Constable here? All right?

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Speaker 2: So there may be another film out there in which

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Speaker 3: She was watching Terminator and taking notes like she's got

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, but I agree. I mean, if you see

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Speaker 2: Yes, our Rev Brown is Max, played by Christopher J. Hart.

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Speaker 2: This is his only film role, I believe. Constable describes

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Speaker 2: I tried to find out any additional information on this guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just a coincidence. Well, this guy has real blast

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Speaker 2: So Erica is the heroine, I guess, or at least

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to take anything away from Erica.

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Speaker 3: But I look, Erica, she make her a singer in

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Speaker 3: So they wanted to recreate the tech noir club sequence

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Speaker 3: from Terminator, but they but they were like, what if

435
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 3: instead the Sarah Connor character was not just waiting in

436
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: tech Noir for the police to arrive and help her,

437
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: but she was actually singing on stage and giving a performance.

438
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: I'm like that's good. Okay, that is a level up.

439
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's a great secrets. I look forward to

440
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 2: talking about that one. It's like a like a disco

441
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: teche number, a full musical number ahead of the rampage.

442
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, a tech noir club with the guy who looks

443
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: like Geddy Lee and a cowboy hat and sunglasses tending bar.

444
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: Yes, and Erica is played here by Claudia Angelique Rotamaker,

445
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: again her only film croll A role here, so I

446
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: don't know anything else about her, but she does a

447
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: perfectly fine job here. All right, Now, there is a

448
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: There is a group of gentlemen that help Max out.

449
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 2: Some of them are total red shirts, but at least

450
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 2: three of them, maybe more. There are guys with mustaches

451
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: like they are white dudes with with mustaches that get

452
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: I get confused with in this picture, I'm not sure

453
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: if we're dealing with one mustachioed Caucasian guy or multiple

454
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: mustachio Caucasian guys.

455
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's one beef guy who's essentially a copy of Max,

456
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 3: but change it to brown hair and add the mustache,

457
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: so he's the muscle guy. And then you've got should

458
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 3: we can we talk about snake for a minute. Snake's

459
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: my favorite character in the film.

460
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: Snake is terrific. So out of these so out of

461
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: these gentlemen. It's like Max has essentially three buddies, white

462
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: dude with a mustache and two Indonesian gentlemen. One one

463
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: is serious and one is the obvious ham of the bunch.

464
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: And that's that's Snake. Strong stoner vibes for Snake.

465
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: Wait, am I thinking of the right guy? Snake is

466
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 3: the guy with the blonde mullet wig. Yes, okay, okay.

467
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 2: Yes, that is Snake played by Adam Stardust.

468
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: That's a real name.

469
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: No, no, and I and this may not be his

470
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: you know, birth name either, but yeah. He's also known

471
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: as Adam Juguani. And while this is Adam stardust slash,

472
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: Adam Juguani's only film role on the major film Databasis,

473
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: he is seemingly still around and is a DJ with

474
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: an easy to find social media footprint in I Believe

475
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: in Indonesia. He is quote existing at sixty living in

476
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: the eighties. Some more power to him. You can look

477
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: him up on YouTube. He's got mixes at parties. This

478
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: dude is still still out there partying hard when.

479
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: He gets blasted by the laser beams from Lady Terminator's eyes.

480
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: I gasped, I made a noise. It was a terrible loss.

481
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: You don't really expect the comic relief character to just

482
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: get eye blasted, and generally they get to survive.

483
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 3: Not Snake. They couldn't do that to Snake, all.

484
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: Right, the mustachioed guy. And I may be wrong. There

485
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: are different parts in the dub where I feel like

486
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: certain characters could refer to by a confusingly different name.

487
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: Tom, and which one was Tom?

488
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: Tom?

489
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: Okay, so Tom the best friend.

490
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: Tom is the best friend. But there's a point where

491
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: somebody blows up in a helicopter and they also call

492
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: that guy Tom.

493
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: That's what I thought I heard, too, Okay, but that

494
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: wasn't the same guy.

495
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: Right, Tom on the ground, Tom a best friend. Tom

496
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: is played by e King Fozzy born nineteen fifty nine,

497
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 2: Indonesian rock star of the nineteen eighties. You can look

498
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: him up on discogs multiple releases as an actor active

499
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: through at least twenty twenty three. And I certainly don't

500
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: know much about Indonesian cinema outside of some of these

501
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: exploitation pictures, but it seems like his roles outside of

502
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: the late nineteen eighties were actually supporting roles in more

503
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: serious films, more like mainstream fair.

504
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm glad he got to play around and

505
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: stuff like this though, because he's fun too. He is

506
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: this the guy who when they're like escaping the police station,

507
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: he gets shot and you think he's dead, and then

508
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: he comes back later and they're like, oh, you're alive,

509
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: and he's like, yeah, I am, that's right.

510
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then spoilers, but he also gets shot again

511
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: and you think he's dead, like this time for real,

512
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: but then he seems to survive and then possibly die again.

513
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: We're not sure, all right. And then finally white guy

514
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: with the mustache, or at least the main one, the

515
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: one that factors into the final battle, is played by

516
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: Joseph P McGlenn. I think this character's name is Joe,

517
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: but he might also be referred to as Tank. I

518
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: could be wrong. As far as I could tell, he

519
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: was a helicopter pilot working in Indonesia at the time.

520
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: This is his only film credit. I may or may

521
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: not have found his LinkedIn profile.

522
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: You gonna hire him?

523
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: No, I think he's retired. But oh, okay, but if

524
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: I need somebody to go up against a killer female robot,

525
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: you know I'm gonna sign up for LinkedIn Pro and

526
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: contact him.

527
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: I guess, okay, Now what about our mage class character? Yes,

528
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: don't we also in the party have a wise old wizard.

529
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, our van helson of the group who consults grand

530
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: uncle Masabu played by an actor credited as h I M.

531
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: Damshik who lived nineteen twenty nine through twenty twelve, very

532
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: slender Indonesian actor with credits seemingly strewn across numerous tantalizing

533
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: genre films. He'd apparently been a dancer and then dance

534
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: instructor and choreographer, working like adjacent to film and then

535
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: maybe in film a little bit before they started casting

536
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: him in parts. And based on like the pictures he's

537
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: showing up in and some of the names of the characters,

538
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: I can easily imagine that this guy became a go

539
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: to elder actor for various supporting elder characters. You know,

540
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: you need a Van Helsing type role. You need a

541
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, a wise old mage like

542
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: you like you say, this is the guy you cast.

543
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: That's right, he's got a very wispy beard, and he

544
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: he you know, tells the tale of the of the

545
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: curse from ancient from the ancient past. Though he's not

546
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: just somebody with intellectual book learning about the magic, he

547
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: has a personal connection to it because he's sort of

548
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: the guardian of our heroin. He's there to deliver the

549
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: lore to her and to pass along the magical artifact

550
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: that she's going to need in order to defeat the

551
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: Lady Terminator and undo the south Sea Queen's magic. That's right.

552
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: This actor's other credits include nineteen eighty Satan Slave, nineteen

553
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 2: eighty one's The Warrior, as well as Queen of Black Magic.

554
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: That one has Susannah eighty two is The Snake Queen,

555
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: also starring Susannah eighty four is The Devil's Sword nineteen

556
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: ninety and also nineteen ninety two's Lady Dragon that had

557
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: Cynthia Rothrock in it, and then many other pictures as well.

558
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: Also, this is a more serious character, but he gets

559
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: a really ignominious end.

560
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: Yes, he doesn't really get a very dignified death, does he.

561
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: But it's an hilarious death.

562
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: We'll have to talk more about that. Yeah, all right.

563
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: The only other acting credit of note, The Queen of

564
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: the South Sea, as we encounter her at the very

565
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: beginning of the picture, is played by an actress credited

566
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: by the name Fortinella, popular Indonesian actress of apparently mixed

567
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: Indonesian and Italian descent who acted in a string of films,

568
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: mostly in the nineteen nineties and mostly comedies. Finally, the music, Oh,

569
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: I love the music of Lady Terminator. I do not

570
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: know exactly what its origins are. It's credited to one

571
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: Ricky Brothers and they have no other credits, so I

572
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: don't know this is somebody's pseudonym. If this is like

573
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: a pair of composed is.

574
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: It Ricky Brothers or the Ricky Brothers.

575
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 2: I took it to be someone named Ricky Brothers, like

576
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: that's their stage name or something. But there are no

577
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: other credits, and as far as I can tell, like

578
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: this is all original music, you know it's there are

579
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: obviously some terminator notes in there. Yes, there are a

580
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: few times where I got kind of like a slight

581
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: biosphere vibe off of it before it got terminatory again.

582
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: But I really enjoyed it. It strikes the exact note

583
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: you want for a picture like Lady Terminator.

584
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: Okay, you ready to talk about the plot.

585
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: Let's discuss the plot.

586
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: All right. So I've been a bit under the weather

587
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: this week, so Rob, I had to lean on you

588
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: to make more plot notes. This time. I'm gonna have

589
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: to rely on you to get us through the plot here.

590
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: But I did make some notes about the very beginning here.

591
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: I did watch this the first time when I had

592
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: a fever, okay, to make sure we're kind of lining

593
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: up with being under the weather whilst watching Lady Terminator.

594
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, okay. So we opened the film on a

595
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: bleak picture of these waves rolling along in a very

596
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: cold looking kind of gray green sea, and there's a

597
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: sound of wind whipping all around, and then a voiceover

598
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: comes in from out of nowhere, and it says it's

599
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: a very i should say, very sharp vocal delivery. It's

600
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: a very almost kind of venomous tone in delivering this

601
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: dialogue or not dialogue, and voiceover it says, sometimes the

602
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: past should be left to memory to gather dust within

603
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: the cupboards of recorded time. That's it, that's what it says.

604
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: Now we cut to waves crashing against a rocky shore,

605
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: and there's a castle perched up on a seaside cliff,

606
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: and there's very dreamy eighties music. There's kind of some

607
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: glass bell synthesizer and reverbi drums, you know that eighties sound.

608
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, drums in an empty steel haul. Yeah,

609
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: I love it.

610
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: And this castle looks really cool. I get kind of

611
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: a Indonesian Gothic vibe from this castle. Presumably this is

612
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: the castle of the south Sea Queen or the woman

613
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: who is going to become the south Sea Queen in

614
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: this prologue.

615
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: Right, So the strings come in on the soundtrack and

616
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: we get the classic the ds A motif D and

617
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: we see a lady here. She's in a bedroom, kind

618
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: of misty bedroom. There's like a fog billowing around, and

619
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: we see you know, bed sheets kind of hanging down

620
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: or I don't know what you call those bed curtains

621
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: hanging down all around. I watched part of this with Rachel,

622
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: and she pointed out, when you see the bed at

623
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: this part, it looks almost like it's like a table,

624
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: looks like not cushiony, like very flat and hard with

625
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: just like a sheet over it, but some kind of

626
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: flat surface. And this lady is on a bed having

627
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: sex with a man. She's wearing a sheer green dress

628
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: or wrap of some kind, with a bunch of gold

629
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: jewelry around her neck and in her hair with heavy

630
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: blue eyeshadow. And I guess this is our south Sea Queen,

631
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: that's right.

632
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: And we quickly see that her green dress is for

633
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: some sort of sarong that wraps around her body and

634
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: then trails on the floor, almost like the tail of

635
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: a great snake or perhaps a mermaid. Yeah, and so

636
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: in this prologue here we get a version of the

637
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: south Sea Queen myth. At first, it seems like this

638
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: prologue is set in historic mythic times, but we're later

639
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: going to learn that this is probably like eighteen eighty nine,

640
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: because there's one hundred years prior to the picture.

641
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: I guess it would have to be yeah.

642
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen eighty eight, eighteen eighty nine, something like that. Okay,

643
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: So the south Sea Queen as depicted here, seems to

644
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: have an insatiable appetite for sex and death, inviting eager

645
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: men into her castle where she loves them up, and

646
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: then she kills them via some form of implied vagina

647
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: dentata attack. So surely she's on top of them, there

648
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: are some everyone pulls some weird faces, and then there's

649
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: a splur of blood across everyone's bodies and they're done.

650
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: The lover is dead.

651
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. We get the scene many times in the movie

652
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: of a guy who's like really excited, he's like, oh boy,

653
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: and then we just get the like the splurt of

654
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 3: blood coming up his torso into his face.

655
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 2: Yes, punished for his lust. And so in this sequence,

656
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: she dispenses with yet another victim and then wonders aloud

657
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: as she eats some grapes if anyone, if any lover

658
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: out there can possibly satisfire. And that's when a handsome,

659
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: heroic man boldly strolls in and seems to take her

660
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: up on the challenge, and in the midst of their

661
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: love making, he grabs a serpent from her, like from

662
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: around her thighs, which in turn transforms into a Chris

663
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: that's a Javanese traditional asymmetrical dagger.

664
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I was curious about that word. I was

665
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: hearing it throughout the movie. But yeah, it's sort of

666
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: like a wavy looking kind of dagger. Yeah. Yeah, So

667
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: the eel snake thing turns into the knife.

668
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: That's right, right, So he's and you know, you quickly

669
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: get the idea that he has. He has, you know,

670
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: stopped her from killing him with her magic, but he's

671
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: also kind of captured some of her magic. Whatever the

672
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: details of it. She's outraged, and he's like, calm down,

673
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: we're married now and the killings need to stop.

674
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: But she doesn't like this. She doesn't like having her

675
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 3: deadly eel power stolen. So she curses him.

676
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: Right, she says, one hundred years from now, I'm going

677
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: to come back and kill your great granddaughter, and then

678
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: she wanders out into the sea to join the evil

679
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: forces of the deep. And then we'll later learn that

680
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: that castle apparently follows her into the depths, sinking beneath

681
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: the waves.

682
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: By the way, when she swears revenge, Rob, you were

683
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: not really like shortening or summarizing at all. That's exactly

684
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: she just says, in one hundred years, I'll have my

685
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: revenge on your great granddaughter.

686
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no additional additional details. And we don't even

687
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: know how he really responds to it. I guess he's

688
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: kind of shocked, but he's like, well, okay, fair, but no,

689
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: I guess he's probably distressed because he thought they had

690
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: a shot at actually making this marriage work, and it

691
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: very quickly fell apart. So we get our title, we

692
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: get our opening credits, and then we fast forward to

693
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: present day and we meet our protagonists for now, the

694
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: young American anthropologist Tanya, whose research concerns the South Sea Queen.

695
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 3: So she is in Indonesia, from what I understand, trying

696
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: to complete her PhD. But it's funny because she talks

697
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: about it more like a I don't know, like a

698
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: high school student having to complete an assignment. She's like,

699
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: I've got to finish writing this thesis or I won't graduate.

700
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't go to prom. I can't go to

701
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: the PhD prom if I don't get this done.

702
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, So she's there studying the south Sea Queen,

703
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: but also doesn't seem to be all that knowledgeable about it,

704
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 3: like she's kind of getting there and finding out things

705
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: about Yeah, like because it what's the deal with the

706
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: south Sea Queen? Yeah?

707
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, this again, this is constable. This is the less

708
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: convincing half of her performance before she becomes Lady Terminator.

709
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: Right now, she's just Lady Anthropologist, And so she's on

710
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: the hunt for details about the South Sea Queen. We

711
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: get a creepy research sequence in what I can only

712
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: assume is a very hot attic library. That's the main

713
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: vibe I got off of it. But she's asking around

714
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: about forbidden books and quickly acquiring forbidden books and learning

715
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 2: about the south Sea Queen.

716
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: She also meets our wizard character.

717
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, and he's like, you you shouldn't,

718
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: you shouldn't dove into such things. And she's like, oh,

719
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: but I want to, and he's like, okay, yeah. And

720
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: so now that we have the library sequence done, we

721
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: move on to actual field work, a solo scuba expedition

722
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: to the castle of the South Sea Queen on the

723
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: bottom of the ocean on a chartered boat that features

724
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: a grumpy captain as well as some guy named Popeye.

725
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: Kind of an Indonesian quint character is the captain here.

726
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: There's some Robert Shawl energy coming off of him, like

727
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: he's drinking a beer out of a can and he's

728
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: he's arguing with her. He's kind of gruff, you know,

729
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: He's like, you shouldn't go there to the I think

730
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: first he dismisses her interest in the South Sea Queen

731
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: is like, oh, that's a bunch of nonsense, and then

732
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: he starts getting real. He's like, look, you don't want

733
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: to do this, you don't want to mess around. But

734
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: somehow I forget how she convinces him.

735
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she she chooses logic.

736
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: First.

737
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: She's like, we're living in the modern age. She cites

738
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: people are building space stations on the moon, you know, yeah,

739
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: and he's like, that's right, they are totally doing that,

740
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: and therefore my superstitious beliefs feel a little embarrassing.

741
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're safe from the South Sea Queen.

742
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: And then she kind of charms him a little bit

743
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: and he's like, okay, we'll take you there again a

744
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: solo scuba trip. So she goes in. We get a

745
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: little stock footage of some very murky looking corals. She

746
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: comes back up at first because of something in her

747
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: unit's not working right. Then she goes down again, and

748
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: then we get this great sequence where the water becomes

749
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: disturbed and the captain like looks, he looks down, then

750
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: he looks up and then he's like, oh.

751
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 3: God, what have I done?

752
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: And then he's destroyed by a wave. Yes, I regret nothing.

753
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: But Tanya is still down there. So she's descending to

754
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: the sunken castle of the south Sea Queen.

755
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: And something goes south down there, because the next thing

756
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: we see, she is in her black bikini strapped to

757
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: the south Sea Queen's massive like hard platform bed that

758
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: we saw in the prologue, and a supernatural snake or

759
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: eel or something crawls up to her nethers and obviously

760
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: possesses her either with the spirit of the South Sea

761
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: Queen or as we have been discussing, at least the

762
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: strong influence of the South Sea Queen.

763
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 3: Right, And so from now on she's just in terminator mode.

764
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: And it's not one of those movies where somebody is

765
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: snapping back to reality and becoming themselves again and they're like,

766
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: what is taking over me? I don't understand this. It's

767
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: not a werewolf type struggle. She's just a terminator from

768
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: now on.

769
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tanya, the lady anthropologist that you may be so

770
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: invested in at this point and the picture is gone.

771
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 2: You'll never see her again. Now she is a vessel

772
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: of pure vengeance. So from here we cut to her emergence.

773
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 2: He emerges a half naked on a midnight shore terminator style,

774
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: bolts of animated blue lightning coming off of her body.

775
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: She comes up on the shore, and much like in Terminator,

776
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: she first comes across a group of a hard drinking

777
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: punks out you know, for a night out on the town.

778
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: They're drinking out of brown bags, I guess. And except

779
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: these guys I think are having significantly more fun even

780
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: than the group of punks including Bill Paxton at the

781
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: beginning of Terminator, you know what I mean, Like, they

782
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: will not stop laughing, and one guy is just he

783
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: is so just goofully laughing it up that he can't

784
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: stop urinating in a like a stream that's just blasting

785
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: off of him while he's talking to his buddy. It's

786
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: it's hard to describe the energy of this scene.

787
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: Yes, he basically screams, Oh God, I need a woman

788
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: as he falls to his knees, beer in one hand,

789
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: cigarette in the other, peeing into the air. These are

790
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: the dirt bags that are about to get murdered by

791
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: Lady Terminator. And that's that's basically how it goes down.

792
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: She wanders up Terminator style, still half naked, but now

793
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: with a green necklace like a jade necklace that's going

794
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: to be important here in a bit. She approaches these

795
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: guys and they immediately offer her pot in good times

796
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: in their car, and basically she makes very short work

797
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: of them death by snooz snow, and she takes their clothes,

798
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: their boots, but she leaves their motor car behind.

799
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: It exactly, and it's the kind of death we saw

800
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: earlier where the guys like mid coitus and then suddenly

801
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: like spray of blood up the stomach into the face.

802
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 2: He's like, ooh, now for there. It's off to one

803
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: of the many hotels that serve as locations for this film.

804
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: A lot of this film seems to have been filmed

805
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 2: in very nice looking hotels and all so airport runways

806
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: and also some malls, some nice shopping malls. So seemingly

807
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: our lady Terminator has checked into the penthouse at this

808
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: nice hotel and we get this. It's kind of, I guess,

809
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: a meditation scene or communing with the spirit of the

810
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: south Sea Queen. It's pretty cool. They're gels. There's like,

811
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: I guess the MTV is playing on the TV. There's

812
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: an enormous penthouse bar and she's like meditating topless before

813
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: a portrait of the south Sea Queen that's on the wall.

814
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: Why do they have that?

815
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I don't know if it was this

816
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: there or it magically appeared. We get more of this

817
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: time travel Terminator Highlander, the quickening lightning, and this ends

818
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: up exploding liquor bottles, destroying lamps, lights up her eyes

819
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: and nipples. And then the security guard shows up with

820
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: an oozy and just gets immediately taken out. She just

821
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: like yanks him by the collar and you know he's

822
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: done for.

823
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: So something I noticed is the Lady Terminator is on

824
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: a mission. She has a main target that she's going after,

825
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: and we will find find out it is the singer Erica,

826
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 3: who I think we see on the TV.

827
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: In this is that Erica? That would make sense, I think.

828
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: So she's singing on the TV.

829
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: So this is not merely meditation. This is research. She's like, Yeah,

830
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: she's seeking out Erica and then powering up so that

831
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: she can go out and get her hook.

832
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: Ah. That's the great granddaughter I'm supposed to get revenge on.

833
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: So there there is that target. But I would say functionally,

834
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 3: what she really hates in this movie is glass and crotches. Yes,

835
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: those are the main things she attacks.

836
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: Yes, she is going to shatter some glass, and she's

837
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: going to shatter some crotches. So much crotch violence in

838
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: this picture. We have some great examples to share.

839
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: You could just tell the director was never getting tired

840
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: of it.

841
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So from here we cut to this location,

842
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: just screams expat bar. I don't know, I don't know where.

843
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: I couldn't find it. I looked for more information about

844
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: filming local, even where in Indonesia everything was shot, and

845
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: I didn't get a lot. So, uh, this is I think,

846
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: supposed to be New York City, but it's some sort

847
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: of a restaurant bar environment that has a bunch of

848
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: Union jacks up.

849
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: Wait, then this is supposed to be New York City.

850
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 2: I there was some detail in this dialogue that made

851
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: me think it, what like, this is not supposed to

852
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: be Indonesia, right, this is supposed to be Max. This

853
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: is supposed to be Max's home country.

854
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: Well, I had a lot of questions about where this

855
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: was supposed to take place. Nothing really made sense, but

856
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: I thought it was definitely not supposed to be anywhere

857
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 3: in the United States because at one point he calls

858
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: his friends in the United States. He says, I'm putting

859
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 3: in a call to my friends in the States, and

860
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: he calls them and they answer and they come over.

861
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: Is this in the bar scene or is this in

862
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: a later scene?

863
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 3: Maybe in a later scene.

864
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: Okay, my read on this, this is a flashback. We

865
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: don't know it's a flashback yet, but where you'll find

866
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: out that it's a flashback. I think this is Max

867
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: in his former life, maybe in New York, maybe in Australia,

868
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: who knows. But then we get some hint of a

869
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: tragedy that forces him to then join the Indonesian police force.

870
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I'm confused about what Yes, you were

871
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 3: right to probably.

872
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: Confused by this. But in this sequence, in this bar,

873
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: we meet Max along with I think Snake and Tom

874
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: are there, so that the Snake's presence does lead us

875
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: to wonder if this is maybe actually Indonesia. I don't know,

876
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: But basically what happens is there's a pretty lady in

877
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: the bar. A couple of abusive eighties movie punks show

878
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: up and they start harassing her, and so Snake and

879
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: Tom and Max they bump, they bust him up, they

880
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: drive them away, and then we almost immediately cut away

881
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: from Max talking to this lady to him pining tragically

882
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: over a photograph of himself and said, lady, and apparently

883
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: now he is a homicide detective in perhaps Jakarta.

884
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: Okay, that's all making sense now. I was having fragmented

885
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: memories I was trying to piece together. Yes, you're right.

886
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 3: So so, yeah, we see the flashback of him meeting

887
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 3: his wife, and then immediately we cut to somethings terrible

888
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: has happened. She's gone now, and he's he's in Indonesia

889
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: as a police officer for some reason.

890
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but this is what we

891
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: have to work with. Yes, And they're almost immediately called

892
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: out on a job. We get this, we get this

893
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: hilarious hot dog conversation where we get the line we've

894
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: seen more dead bodies and you've eaten hot dogs, so

895
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: shut up and eat.

896
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying that all the time.

897
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: So they're called out clearly to investigate some of these

898
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 2: south Sea Queen killings. They don't know it's the south

899
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: Sea Queen yet, but there are some murders happening and

900
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: Max and his team are on the case.

901
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 3: Is this the part where they go to the morgue

902
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: to see the bodies and they're like, huh, the genitals

903
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 3: were removed from all these men, and one of them

904
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: is like, could be a small animal.

905
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: That comes later, but this is' that's like phase two

906
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: of their work. Yeah, okay, but before where we get that,

907
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: we end up having to touch base with Erica, who

908
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: we've I guess seen on the screen. We've talked about

909
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: her already, but this is who will learn to be

910
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: the curse great granddaughter of the Casanova from the opening prologue,

911
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: the woman that the terminator, the lady terminator here is

912
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: out to murder.

913
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: So she's a popular music sensation and I think when

914
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 3: we first meet her, she's being interviewed by like somebody

915
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 3: comes up with a news camera microphone.

916
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: For yeah, and what is clearly a very nice hotel lobby,

917
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: but they're like, hey, this is Joe Peterson for Channel six.

918
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: Tell us about how famous you are and can't you

919
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: can you not wait to be famous?

920
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: Like it's weird.

921
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: They're interviewing her like she's a celebrity, but also asking

922
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: her us like what do you think is going to

923
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: be like when you're famous? And she's like, I can't imagine, well,

924
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: she's still she's still very much an everyday you know

925
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: girl who wants to go to the mall, and she

926
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: does that. In the next scene with her friend Lydia,

927
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: they're trying on jewelry and there they particularly they go

928
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: to a jewelry store and Erica is already wearing an

929
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: authentic jade necks that is identical to the one that

930
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: Lady Terminator was wearing earlier. And just to confuse things

931
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: even more, Lydia says, I'm going to buy an exact

932
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 2: replica of your authentic jade necklace that you got from

933
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: your ancestor. And everyone's like, this sounds like a good plan. Meanwhile,

934
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: of course, Lady Terminator has already shown up at the

935
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: mall and is stalking them.

936
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: You don't actually get these sound effects, but as she's

937
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 3: walking through the mall, you can just hear in your

938
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 3: head like the.

939
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: And Lady t is decked out in what will be

940
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: her signature look for most of the picture, at least

941
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: when she's not naked, she's wearing a green sportspra. She's

942
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: got black leather jacket on and then these like tight

943
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: stitched like open at the sides leather rocker pants like

944
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 2: eighties heavy not heavy metal, but eighties metal pants. Yes,

945
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: but she didn't have the green necklace anymore. Now her

946
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: necklace is black. For whatever reason, didn't notice that change.

947
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: I should also point out that Lady Terminator has great hair.

948
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: She has this like great zoos will ask head of

949
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: Sigourney Weaver hair going on in most of the picture.

950
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's no denying Constables a stone cold knockout

951
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: in this end. Evidently by virtue of the weapons training

952
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: she's received, ultimately pretty convincing firing all these guns, which

953
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: she's about to do.

954
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: Right, because Erica and her friend they part ways, right,

955
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: Eric has to go do something else and her friend

956
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: goes into the bathroom, and for some reason, Lady Terminator

957
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 3: goes after her first.

958
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: Right, goes into the bathroom, shoots her with an UZI,

959
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: kills an innocent bystander, and then she pulls the necklace

960
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: off of her and quickly discerns that it's a fake.

961
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: So the hunt continues. More stalking in the mall, more

962
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: senseless murder of humans, and television.

963
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: Sets had to break some glass, that's right.

964
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, cut to the seaside and we see Grand uncle Masabu,

965
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: and he is meditating and clearly has a premonition that

966
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: Erica is in trouble, and he draws the sacred Chris

967
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: Knife knife and he realizes he needs to jump in

968
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: there and help. Then we get the autopsy scene that

969
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: we already describe.

970
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 3: Okay, so it was not a small animal as they

971
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 3: first suspect, But then they make some crude jokes, and

972
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 3: then also there is a there's some comic relief in

973
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 3: the scene because the autop like the morgue attendant is

974
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 3: just eating spicy noodles.

975
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just they're eating noodles. They're like, you're disgusting,

976
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: and he's like, I gotta eat. And from there we

977
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: cut to the disco sequence that we referenced earlier. They

978
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 2: later clarified that this is the Manhattan Club.

979
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: The Manhattan Club is the tech noir of Lady Terminy.

980
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: That's right, and this before anything even really happens in

981
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: this scene. It's splendid. It's just great disco vibes. I

982
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: like the way it's shot. I love the colors. We

983
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: hear most of, if not the entire song that Eric

984
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: is performing. I wasn't able to hunt down what this

985
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: song is or who recorded it where it came from?

986
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: But I like original. It seems the chorus says something

987
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 3: like we.

988
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: Fight, fight for life, we serve those in power.

989
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: That was a little confused, But what is that really?

990
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: What it means.

991
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: As all we assist those in power? I think it says, Well,

992
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: it's everyone's having a great time here. It turns out

993
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: that Max is here with one of his co workers,

994
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: one of the other detectives named Jack. I believe, but

995
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: we learned Max is living in the past. He's unable

996
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: to move on. He can't fall in love again after

997
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 2: whatever horrible things happened to his previous girlfriend.

998
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: You know so many cop characters in movies, they're always

999
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: they're taking it too personal, right the case, the case

1000
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 3: is weighing on them. Max is not taking the job

1001
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: too personal. He's taken his own personal life to personal,

1002
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: which is a refreshing change.

1003
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: Better work life balance hard hard to.

1004
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, or work grief balance yeah.

1005
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: Now, of course, this, this this party vibe is not

1006
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: going to last. A lady t shows up, we get

1007
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: another massive shootout of those bottles on the bar. Don't

1008
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: stand a chance. Nope, she takes those out for sure,

1009
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: so there's an exchange of gunfire. Everyone's running for it.

1010
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: This is the scene where Max apparently blurts out, come

1011
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: with me if you want to live.

1012
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: Yea.

1013
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: But after Jack saves the day by like getting some

1014
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 2: rather impactful shotgun blasted on Lady t but then Lady

1015
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: murders Jack and he's out of it.

1016
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think does she like twists his head or something. Yeah,

1017
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: so this is a pretty good chase. But this also

1018
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: is one scene where they're going to great lengths to

1019
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: copy exact shots from Terminator, like the sequence where the

1020
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: Terminator gets knocked down and then you see his fingers

1021
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: twitch and he starts to get back up. They do

1022
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: the exact same thing there, so they're clearly copying a

1023
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: lot of staging. I mentioned this earlier, but did you

1024
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: notice the bartender in the tech noir bar here. He's

1025
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 3: got long hair and sunglasses and a cowboy hat. He's

1026
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 3: just great.

1027
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: I know, I wish he could have seen more of him.

1028
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: So this obviously erupts into, like we're saying, another big

1029
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: chase scene, more explosions, gunfire, a burning Lady Terminator on

1030
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: the hood of their vehicle, everybody steals at least one car,

1031
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: but eventually they make it. They make it away to

1032
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 2: the point that they can start doing some computer research

1033
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: and pull up like a little computer image of Tanya

1034
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: and get a little more detail on what's going on.

1035
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: I'm impressed that they're able to get an image of

1036
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: Tanya's face on what looks like just like a green

1037
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 3: text command prompt.

1038
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: So at this point they've got some more research finished

1039
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: and they start getting the adventuring party together. Max is

1040
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: invited to a night out in the town with the boys,

1041
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: and the boys instead are like, we're coming to help you.

1042
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 2: I think this is Snake and one of the other guys.

1043
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. This is when he puts a call into what

1044
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: I took to be the States or are they coming internationally.

1045
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh God, that doesn't make sense because that's that's a

1046
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: long and definitely not direct flight.

1047
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: I can say from experience, Well, yeah, maybe I misunderstood that.

1048
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 3: But he does call his friends. They're like, we'll be

1049
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: there to help, and they will show up for a

1050
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 3: great final action scene.

1051
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 2: And then this is also when grand Uncle Masabu shows

1052
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: up to assist. He checks out Erica's ambulant and he's like, yep,

1053
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: this is it. This is how she's tracking you. But

1054
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 2: this is but also, you know, drive some this is

1055
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: a sacred artifact, and so forth, he gives us a

1056
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: little more of the lore. Max isn't buying it though,

1057
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: He's like, this is nonsense. And then there's this light.

1058
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 2: Almost immediately, Erica says this to excuse him. She says,

1059
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: he hasn't been in our country very long.

1060
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: But this is also where we're going to get the

1061
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: magic dagger, right.

1062
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: That's right. Grand Uncle Masabu passes on the Chris to Lydia,

1063
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: but he says, don't worry. I am here to protect you.

1064
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: And it's a good thing he's here to protect her,

1065
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: because the next scene is Lady Terminator driving in through

1066
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: the hotel slash police station security and just killing everyone inside.

1067
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: So this is another copy of a sequence in Terminator

1068
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: where the Terminator comes to the police station where Sarah

1069
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 3: Connor is being held and attacks the whole police station

1070
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: looking for her. Lady Terminator does the same thing here,

1071
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: and it begins with yeah, driving her car through the

1072
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 3: front desk.

1073
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: And this is the point where I noted from here

1074
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: on out it's almost continuous machine gun fire, like they're

1075
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: not gonna let up. But at the same time, it

1076
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: never really gets boring.

1077
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 3: Well because it maintains a level of absurdity. Like we

1078
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 3: mentioned how much she hates glass, so she is going

1079
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: to shatter every piece of glass she comes across, every bottle,

1080
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: every window, all that. But she also hates crotches, and

1081
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: so in this scene, for example, she like shoots one

1082
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: guy like five hundred times, and then after that kicks

1083
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 3: him in the crotch.

1084
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 2: That's right. She shoots him off of the rafters, he

1085
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: falls down, she says, where is Erica, and then just

1086
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 2: shoots him in the torso like two dozen times. Yeah,

1087
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: and then one good kick in the ball is for

1088
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 2: good measure. And she goes on to just stylishly gun

1089
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: down the rest of the security detail one by one.

1090
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: Some of them she you know, shoots in the back.

1091
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 2: Others she very strategically shoots in the groin, multiple quality

1092
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: groin kills in this.

1093
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: I think she's aiming for the groin when she can, Yeah.

1094
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: Because that's the South Sea Queen's way, you know, That's

1095
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: that's part of her lustful, vengeful mo Yeah, she is

1096
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: going to aim for the crotch whenever possible. I think

1097
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: all in all, in this picture, she kills like sixty

1098
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: two people. I didn't do the count myself, but I

1099
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: found one of these websites that includes kill counts for

1100
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: different characters and films like this, and I think it's

1101
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: something like sixty two people. It is a lot, all right.

1102
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: But you know who's going to put a stop to this.

1103
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: Grand Uncle Masabu, who shows up now dressed all in white,

1104
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: enters the fray and we get this amazing supernatural standoff

1105
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: between a grand Uncle Masabu with the jade amulet and

1106
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: Lady Terminator with her machine gun.

1107
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: And you think maybe he's got the power to stop her.

1108
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: That would make sense.

1109
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: It seems like it's working at first, right, because she

1110
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: sees this guy, what is she gonna do? She's gonna

1111
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: shoot him, so she unloads on him with the machine gun,

1112
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: but the bullets are not touching him. He's like, he's

1113
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: totally matrixing this situation, and I guess the bullets are

1114
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: just passing through him. And she seems a little perplexed,

1115
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: a little worried, like, Okay, now this is a threat

1116
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: I wasn't prepared for. And then it's grand Uncle Masabu's

1117
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: move he uses some sort of some form of telekinesis

1118
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: to make the jade amulet fly directly into her eye socket,

1119
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: knocking her down, and she seems to be down for

1120
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: the count. We're like, oh my goodness, I think he

1121
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: did it. I think he pulled it off. She's not

1122
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: gonna set up Michael Meyer's style and start killing people again.

1123
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: But unfortunately she does. Not only that, but she right.

1124
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: I feel like the grand Uncle. He's a character of

1125
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: dignity and you would have expected him to have a

1126
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: more dignified death, but no, it's once again just obscene,

1127
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 3: absurd violence.

1128
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: There's this great moment where, once she sets up, he

1129
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: glances down at his own crotch and he's like, oh,

1130
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: my crotch is not protected now, or he doesn't say that,

1131
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: but that's implied. And then she indeed pulls the machine

1132
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: gun out and just shoots him directly in the crotch

1133
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: multiple times. He falls against the wall and is dead.

1134
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: I felt this one. I like the grand Uncle.

1135
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: So from this point on, we of course get more

1136
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: machine gun violence. Max and Tom collect Erica and they

1137
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: take off. Somehow they make it out with only Tom

1138
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: suffering a single movie gun shot to the shoulder, you

1139
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: know the movie. Since it's not going to slow him

1140
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: down much. They drive off into the night, finally stopping

1141
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: in the country when they experience engine problems. Though Tom's

1142
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: not there anymore. I don't know where he went.

1143
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: I think they leave him behind when he gets shot.

1144
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, okay, not maybe they did, because he's

1145
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 3: not there in the countryside. I thought they're surprised when

1146
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 3: they see him alive again later.

1147
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I think you're correct.

1148
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: But this is where we're going to get several scenes

1149
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 3: again recreating scenes from Terminator. So the scene in Terminator

1150
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: is when Reese and Sarah Connor takes shelter under a bridge.

1151
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: They patch up their wounds, and they get some backstory.

1152
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: They talk about some of the themes of the movie,

1153
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 3: including fate and you know, whether or not the future

1154
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: can be changed and that kind of thing, and also

1155
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 3: you see their love beginning to blossom. This covers some

1156
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: of the same territory. But this is also the scene

1157
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 3: where we get the like does it hurt the bullet wound?

1158
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 5: NA.

1159
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 3: Of course, this guy is not from the future. He's

1160
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 3: just a homicide detective. So there's nothing to talk about there,

1161
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 3: but you do get some of his tragic backstory, telling

1162
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: the story of how his wife was killed, and that's

1163
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 3: you know, the source of his pain now. But I

1164
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: don't know, for some reason, you haven't really seen any

1165
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: good reason for them to be falling in love, but

1166
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: they do. So Max and Erica they're like, okay lovers.

1167
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, they have a tender love scene in which

1168
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: blood is not splurted anywhere and in which no snakes

1169
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 2: or knives factor into the love making at all.

1170
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 3: Also, in what I thought was a pretty funny choice,

1171
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: it it also takes shots directly from the sex scene

1172
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 3: in Terminator.

1173
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of ripping off Terminator shot for shot, Now

1174
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: we go to the topless regeneration scene for Lady t.

1175
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: It's the gels are in place again. This is back

1176
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: in the I guess, the same hotel Penthouse from before.

1177
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: The music here, I thought specifically sounded a little bit

1178
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 2: like Biosphere with a little bit of with certainly those

1179
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: Terminator vibes as well.

1180
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 3: Yes there's that. And and this is going to be

1181
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: the scene from Terminator where his eye is damaged so

1182
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 3: he has to take his fleshy eye out and reveal

1183
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: the you know, the machine eye underneath.

1184
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: She's a great sequence in the original Terminator, one that

1185
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 2: really stuck with me as a young viewer, and of

1186
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: course one that makes total sense. The Terminator is a machine.

1187
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: His eye is damage, his real eye beneath the flesh.

1188
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: He has to make repairs, and therefore he has to

1189
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 2: cut into his body is fleshy parts, remove the fleshy parts,

1190
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: and repair the metal.

1191
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: Underneath, right, and so his eyes will be shielded by

1192
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: dark sunglasses for the rest of the movie for that reason.

1193
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 3: But the Lady Terminator, she's got to take her eye out,

1194
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 3: and you know what I'm going to say. I was

1195
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 3: fairly impressed by the makeup effects here. Yeah, they have

1196
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 3: like a copy of her head that looked convincing enough.

1197
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: She's like cutting into the eye with the scalpel. I

1198
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 3: was like, ooh, how are they doing that for a

1199
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 3: second before I realized, like, oh wait, that's not really her,

1200
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: that's like a mannequin head. But it looks pretty good.

1201
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the effects were good. It's rippon off Terminator,

1202
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: but doing it somewhat effectively, I don't know that it

1203
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: made any sense, because again, she's not a machine. There's

1204
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: no reason for her to take her eyeball out, and

1205
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: yet she removes her eyeball seems to wash it off,

1206
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: and then there's some highlander quickening sparks off of it,

1207
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: and then she just sticks it back in and it's like, oh,

1208
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: all fixed up and ready for more sex and death.

1209
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

1210
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 2: But before that happens, there's a we get some more

1211
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: strong zool vibes because a bus boy shows up with breakfast,

1212
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 2: and of course he gets sex murder.

1213
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 3: He does not take any convincing. He shows up with

1214
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: the breakfast and she's like hey, and she does the

1215
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 3: little like curl the finger like come here. Yeah, he's

1216
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 3: just immediately like taking his tie off.

1217
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he's like an extra and a Benny Hill sketch,

1218
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: and he is already at that like that frantic speed.

1219
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So she kills him.

1220
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: And then meanwhile back at the mall, we're back at

1221
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: the mall again the lovebirds Max and Oh.

1222
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: Sorry. This this is the scene I mentioned earlier where

1223
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 3: it was really funny how they were running. They were

1224
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 3: on the run, and they're just suddenly at the mall

1225
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 3: and it seems like they're kind of taking it easy.

1226
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 3: They're just shopping.

1227
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, Max and Erica. Here are on the run from

1228
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: a supernatural uh avatar of vengeance, and they're like, what

1229
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: if we went shopping? Maybe went to the food mall,

1230
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: and so that's what they decided to do. Maybe they're thinking,

1231
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: you know where we'd be saved from Lady Terminator, a

1232
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: place with high population density. So of course Lady Terminator

1233
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 2: shows up again. More gunshots, more bystander deaths.

1234
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 3: This is full of glass.

1235
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, more glasses shattered, and our hero and heroin drive

1236
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: off again, this time I believe, intending to meet the

1237
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: rest of the team at the airport for a final

1238
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: showdown with Lady Terminator. This is another scene where everyone

1239
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: steals at least one car for the next phase of

1240
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:40,959
Speaker 2: the action.

1241
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 3: Yes, but man, when they get to the to the

1242
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 3: airport runway for the final action scene, this is a

1243
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 3: good final showdown. Yeah, give it two thumbs up. Yeah.

1244
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 2: I definitely had some jaw dropping moments here and also

1245
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: some enormous laughs. One early on is you know everyone

1246
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 2: knows im Predator. We get that great Dutch Dylan hand.

1247
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: I guess you'd call it a handshake. It's like the

1248
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 2: muscle moment where to arm wrestling in the air sort

1249
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 2: of yeah, like that's of course an awesome, iconic moment.

1250
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: But this film has four heroes working together, so we

1251
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: get a quadruple Dutch Dylan Predator handshake and.

1252
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 3: It's it's glorious, it's really good.

1253
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: And we have plenty of red shirts around him that

1254
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: are obviously gonna get blasted. So yeah, basically everyone ends

1255
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: up on the airport tarmac and multiple elements are in

1256
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: play here. We have Lady Terminator driving around in a car. Yes,

1257
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: a helicopter is in play shooting air to ground missiles

1258
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: at Lady Terminator.

1259
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: Yes.

1260
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: Then we have Snakes show up and he's a what

1261
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: is he in? Like some sort of armored personnel carrier.

1262
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 3: They call it the panzer. It looked to me just

1263
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 3: like a truck with like some stuff built around it

1264
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 3: to make it look like a like a tank of

1265
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 3: some kind. But he's driving it and he's like ramming

1266
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: her with it and just cussing her out as he

1267
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: rams into her. That's so funny.

1268
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: Is profanity here?

1269
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1270
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: The enthusiasm of the delivery is great though, Yes, so good.

1271
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, he rams or he like ty bones her vehicle,

1272
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: but she's clearly still a lot still alive, so Snake

1273
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 2: runs for it, and then the mustachioed guy who I

1274
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: think is named Joe, fires a bazooka at her as

1275
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: well as the suddenly adjacent fuel tanker, and there's an

1276
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: enormous explosion, and I think it's Max who says, yeah,

1277
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: that should be enough to kill anybody.

1278
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but hey, we've seen Terminator, right. The Terminator

1279
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 3: gets blown up in an exploding tanker and they think

1280
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 3: they're safe, and they're not. Of course, it's going to

1281
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 3: rise up, having all of the flesh burned off of

1282
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: it and now being only the metal endoskeleton underneath. Not

1283
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: quite the case. Instead, she turns into a half melted

1284
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 3: sort of zombie being.

1285
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, kind of a zombie burnt up zombifide form here,

1286
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: and she's even more unstoppable. Now. This is one of

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Speaker 2: the cases where you often see some the hero does it,

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Speaker 2: sometimes the villain does it. But late stage they find

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Speaker 2: that that higher year that unlocks additional weaponry that seems

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Speaker 2: like could have been useful earlier in the picture, in

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Speaker 2: this case laser eyes.

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Speaker 3: And this is how our beloved Snake meets his end.

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Speaker 3: I hated that they that they laser beam snake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, snake eats it here, takes some laser beams to

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Speaker 2: the chest. I think they shoot her like a million

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Speaker 2: more times, and she keeps coming, and we do get

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Speaker 2: a moment where Max is like he acknowledges Snake's death

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Speaker 2: and he goes so long, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's a couple of moments like that. There's another

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Speaker 3: one where she the helicopter swoops down and catches her

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Speaker 3: in a net.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, that was crazy. Catches her in

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Speaker 2: a net. And then what does she do. She looks

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Speaker 2: up and I blast the chopper and herself out of

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Speaker 2: the sky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she blows up the chopper. And then we cut

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Speaker 3: to one of the buddies there who one of the

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Speaker 3: guys says, it just kind of like blankly says, like, Tom,

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Speaker 3: it's so hilarious, like while the helicopter is still exploding

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Speaker 3: mid fireball.

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Speaker 2: Shrapnel flying everywhere, but he takes a moment to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: tom my buddy.

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Speaker 3: And then that Tom in the helicopter, I was confused that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we knew that that was not the

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Speaker 2: other Tom. That will I think get back to here

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Speaker 2: in just a second. That was a different Tom. She

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Speaker 2: proceeds to so Lady Terminator at this point just proceeds

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Speaker 2: to blow everyone and everything up with her ie beams

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Speaker 2: and seemingly kills the other Tom or the Tom Prime

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Speaker 2: we'll call him in the process, the one played by

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Speaker 2: the rockstar that we referenced earlier. Okay, Max runs out

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Speaker 2: of AMMO. He tries to club Lady T with his

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Speaker 2: machine gun, but she, you know, quickly like bashes him,

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Speaker 2: beats him up, and now it's just Lady T chasing

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Speaker 2: Erica up the stairs of what I assumed to be

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Speaker 2: like an air traffic control tower. And things are feeling

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Speaker 2: really dire here because there's no way there's going to

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Speaker 2: be an industrial hydraulic press up there, you know, to

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Speaker 2: the Terminator.

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Speaker 3: That's right, So what's she gonna do? But you do

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Speaker 3: see tucked into the back of her clothes as she's

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Speaker 3: running up the stairs, she still got the wrapped up

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Speaker 3: gift from her grand uncle.

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Speaker 2: Ah, the Sacred Chris. Yes, I didn't even notice it

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Speaker 2: in her belt here, so I'd kind of forgotten about it.

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Speaker 2: Because up at the top of the tower, Lady Terminator

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01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 2: catches up, goes in for the kill. Max catches up,

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Speaker 2: but he's not much use. She like throws him down

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01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 2: a flight of stairs, and then she climbs on top

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Speaker 2: of Erica and begins to like strangle her or something.

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 2: But then that's when Erica pulls out the Chris.

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Speaker 3: And is it sort of a Highlander type defeating the

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01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 3: monster here? Is there some lightning involved?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is great because she stabs a lady terminator

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Speaker 2: with the Chris. There's like a quickening explosion with the

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01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: animated blue lightning, and then the Chris floats in the air,

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01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: glows and shoots off like a space ship into the night.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful magnifico.

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Speaker 2: So it's been this whole time, but now it seems

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01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 2: like the sun is coming up, a light is coming

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01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 2: back into the world. And so now we see our

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: surviving couple. They've been bandaged up. They're grieving for the

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Speaker 2: dead as they take them by on stretchers, and then

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Speaker 2: they bring by Tom on his stretcher and he's seemingly

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Speaker 2: still alive, and we get this great little exchange with

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Speaker 2: him where he says, I want to live forever.

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Speaker 3: That's great. I don't know, that's actually an interesting, nice

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: kind of line. Yeah, discovers after having been eyeball blasted

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01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: by Lady Terminator or whatever happened to him.

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Speaker 2: I forget, Yeah, he'd send you. He was definitely eyeball blasted,

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Speaker 2: and he was shot with the ballistics earlier, so he's

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01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: been through it at this point. But now his new

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01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: goal is to just maybe not die, maybe ever. And

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Speaker 2: I think it's understandable given what he suffered.

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Speaker 3: Oh but hey, remember that voice that came in with

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Speaker 3: narration at the beginning about the cupboards of recorded time.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, comes back at the end. So as there's

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Speaker 3: like a sunset or not sunset, it's the sunrise. I

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Speaker 3: guess everything's going okay now, And the voice comes in

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Speaker 3: that says, the struggle within our souls is never ending.

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Speaker 3: The life of man short and brutal, torn between good

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Speaker 3: and evil. Of the eternity around us, we know nothing.

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Speaker 3: The stars look on They have been here long before

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01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: man appeared on our small planet, and they will be

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Speaker 3: here after we are no more. The end beautiful. What

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01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 3: what does that have to do with it?

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's a message that we learn too late,

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01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Now it really does feel like the

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01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 2: opening narration and the closing narration were perhaps one narration

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01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: bit and They were like, should we put this at

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01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: the beginning or should we put at the end, And

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: they're like, no, let's split it up.

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Speaker 3: Split the difference. Yeah, he learned only too late that

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01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 3: eel is a biting creature.

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Speaker 2: I guess the message is beware the south Sea Queen. Really,

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01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: that's it just seems like a warning. I don't. I

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01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: think that's the main main error in anyone's ways here

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01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 2: is don't tangle with the south Sea Queen.

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Speaker 3: I think that is it. Yes, if you know there,

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Speaker 3: if you know of an evil deep sea sex goddess somewhere,

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01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 3: you should you should not go to her palace.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Even if you yourself are very confident. Think

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Speaker 2: about your great grandchildren. Yeah, think about the legacy of

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Speaker 2: your poor decisions. Beautiful though she may be.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was Lady Terminator again. I think one of

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Speaker 3: the wildest and funniest movies we have watched for this show.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's like both of these films. Not for everyone,

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01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: but if it's for you, boy, it's a treat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna need to be comfortable with a good

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Speaker 3: bit of sex and violence. But it doesn't get much

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Speaker 3: more absurd than this.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna go ahead and close out this

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