1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Reasonably Sadie, a production of The Black Effect 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Making Money Moves featuring 3 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Earnier Leisure February. Robin and I are entrepreneurs, and you know, 4 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: we always want to encourage especially black women, to get 5 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: out there and invest in yourself and and definitely like 6 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: strive for your dreams. But you need money to do that. 7 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: So what is the best way to like raise capital 8 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: for your business, especially if you're a startup you know 9 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: you're new to just this entrepreneuri game. I mean, there's 10 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: a few different ways you can't go about raising capital. 11 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: You can, you know, raise capital from friends and family. Um, 12 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: you can you know, leverage your credit. You can take 13 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: loans from your fall o one K. Everybody's situation is different. 14 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: What we did personally was we just started a business 15 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: that had low um startup costs, which is a podcast. 16 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: Doesn't mat take a lot of money to start a podcast, 17 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: and we used our personal money. UM. You know, I 18 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: wish I could have had more of an elaborate story 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: to tell, but it really wasn't. Um. We just we 20 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: staved up. We have money that we have from you know, 21 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: working our respective careers, and we were still working while 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: we were being entrepreneur. That's nothing to people. You don't 23 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: necessarily have to do one or the other, Like you know, 24 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: you can actually still do both at the same time. 25 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: If you have a nine of five job, you can 26 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: keep that note a five job and still be an 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: entrepreneur when you get home. And then eventually as your 28 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: business takes off and now it's time to leave your 29 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: nine the five, then you know it's time to leave. 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, use the money from your note 31 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: a five job or whatever kind of job you have 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: to help fund your business. So like your job is 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: really is the investor is the angel investing in business 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: in that in that situation. Other than that, I mean, 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: of course, you can try to get bank financing. That's 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: gonna be extremely difficult, almost impossible, especially if you're just 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: starting out, your black entrepreneur. It's gonna be extremely difficult 38 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: to get money from a bank. So, like I said, 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, most of the time for entrepreneurs, if you're 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: just starting now, you're gonna have to either use your 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: own personal money, which is money that you saved up 42 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: um or you know, money from like retirement accounts, money 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: from friends and family, you can, you know, take money 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: from your house. I'm gonna have to stop you. I'm 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: gonna to stop you right there. The friends and family, 46 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: that's like sure far away to cause a ruckets at 47 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Like no, okay, there's no no friends and family. 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: But definitely I believe in investing in yourself, saving money 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: and because there's there's nobody that's gonna support you or 50 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,279 Speaker 1: like root for you more than yourself. Right, so I'm 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: definitely down with that. Friends and family, I say, no, 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it depends. I mean, if someone comes to me, 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: I would say more family than friends. If they come 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: to me they have a solid plan, then I'm not. 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: I'm I don't. I'm not going to shy away from 56 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: helping them out if I really believe in it, if 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: I see if they have a plan, if you know, 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: but not someone just says I'm struggling. Can I get 59 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: some money? Like no, I want to know if how 60 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: is this money going to put you in a better 61 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: place permanently, Like I don't want to just give you 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: money just to pay your bill and that's it now, Okay, 63 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: do you all loan money? That's a good question. Do 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: you all loan money? To people because I have a 65 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: firm stance because I didn't get burnt a couple of times. Yeah, no, 66 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: I ain't loaning nothing so loan would would would imply 67 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: that the money is gonna be paid back? Right, Yes, 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: but we all know it's not. Okay, I mean I haven't. 69 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: I haven't um with the intent of expecting it to 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: come back. But I have um given money with the 71 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: intent of helping out a situation. Okay, I like that. Okay, 72 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: now I'm gonna let you get back to the well wait, 73 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: well now that right, so wait, now we're going to 74 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: get back to the metaverse. And I but now that 75 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: you talked about business, I want to piggyback on that conversation. 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: I hear from a lot of people who, you know, 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: they they're working at nine to five and they really 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: want to be entrepreneurs. They really want to create multiple 79 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: streams of income and they don't know where to start. 80 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: And you know, my advice to them is, Okay, what 81 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: are you interested in? What can you, you know, find 82 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: to monetize something that you're interested in. But for people 83 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: who really don't think they have some sort of tangible 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: item to sell, what avenue would you say for like 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: people should look into too, maybe become entrepreneurs, Like I 86 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: know there's so many things, like especially with the vending machines, 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: like how like how is that that going for you guys? 88 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: I'll just start with with education because I've had this 89 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: conversation with a none of my colleagues who don't think 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: they could be entrepreneurs, And I'm like, the first thing 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you have to do is what's your purpose? Right? And 92 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: that thing was like to help people. I'm like, well, 93 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: you have a skill set that somebody else doesn't have. 94 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: You have a skill set that I don't have. Ill 95 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: use a young lady for example, she her son uh 96 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: is hearing them period and he's advocated for him for 97 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: the past three years, and I told him like, look, 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: your level of advocacy everybody doesn't know how to do that. 99 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: You should probably write a book on this, right, And 100 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: her mind was like, wait, I can't do that, And 101 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you could, Like you're fighting for this 102 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: every single day. So the first thing I would say 103 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: is look right in front of you. You're you probably 104 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: possess a skill and a purpose that the other person doesn't. Write. 105 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: Another one of my colleagues, she was like, I don't know, 106 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: I need to create more income. I'm like, well, you're 107 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: a great teacher, why don't you create a tutoring service? Right, 108 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: you can do that after school. Like, that's not gonna 109 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: coast you anything. And you're doing what you naturally do. 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: You're you're great at you're a teacher. So the problem 111 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: is that people will use like hey, I don't have 112 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: the time for it, when I'm like, well, either you're 113 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: gonna dedicate the time to doing that or you're gonna 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: dedicate the next twenty five years to doing this. Right, 115 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: you drop a knowledge, you drop knowledge over there. It's 116 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: just what you you have to choose, right. But everybody, 117 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: I believe that everybody has a purpose. They just haven't 118 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: tapped into it, right or they're overlooking it. A lot 119 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: of times, it's like it's right in front of you. Right. 120 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: So like people ask me now, like hey, Troy, how's 121 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: it feel not to teach anyone? And I'm like, well, 122 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm teaching every day. You still teach you. Yeah, you're 123 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: teaching big time. Yeah, I didn't learn about four things today. 124 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: I can't learn about four things you can talk about right, right? No, 125 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: but you are teaching a lot because, like I said, 126 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: I learned about I Um, you know, I learned about 127 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: stocks from you guys. I also learned about things to 128 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: do for my children. One of which, um, I believe 129 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: I learned from you guys was, you know, make them 130 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: your employee. I have a business. So now I've set 131 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: both of my kids up as employees. I pay them, 132 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: you know, just under the threshold so that they're not taxed. 133 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: And you know, it's a tax start off for me. 134 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: They're building, you know, they're they're they're building a little 135 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: nest egg. Um. What I know a lot of people 136 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: want to create generational wealth for their kids. They want 137 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: to set their kids up for success. So what is 138 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: the best advice that you can give to parents to 139 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: help them, Um, set their kids it's up for financial success. Um, 140 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: just start early, start early. Opening an investment account for them. 141 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: You can open up a UTMA and that's like a 142 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: a brokerage account and investment account, but for kids. And 143 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: unte what's that called again? An art month? U t 144 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: ut M A U t M. Do you all have kids? Yeah? 145 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: I have, I have a son, okay U t M 146 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: A Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead, So, UM, that's an 147 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: investment account that you are like pretty much the owner 148 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: that you stole here and you can put money in. 149 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: You can invest in Apple, you can invest in E, T, 150 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: F and H. They don't gain access to that until 151 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: they turn eighteen to the to the an adult, but 152 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: you know that allows money to grow into an account. 153 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: So that's that's one real easy way that you can 154 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: do it. You can do any online account like t 155 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: D and marriage Trade. You can do MARRIW Lynch, any 156 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: any like online brokerage account. You can go in there, 157 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: take a couple of minutes into the information, and then 158 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: you have the account. You can start investing money in UM. 159 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: You can have a five and plan which that allows 160 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: you to put money away for the education. So that's 161 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: the way that you know, parents want to save for college, 162 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: or you want to save for prep school or whatever, 163 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: not just higher education, any form of education you can 164 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: UM saving. The good thing with the plans is that 165 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: the money is tax free as long as you're using 166 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: for education, and depending on what states you live in, 167 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: if you invest in the States file twenty nine planning, 168 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: you get a state tax deduction for the amount of 169 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: money that you put in, So that's beneficial as well, 170 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 1: so those are two easy ways where you can actually 171 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: go about to start to build some some assets, some 172 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: wealth for your for your your child down the line. Yeah, 173 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: I think what you're doing now is great, right, like 174 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: paying them as employees of your business. Right if you 175 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: if your child is seven years old, can you imagine 176 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: if you paid them ten thousand dollars a year to 177 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: their sevent team, right, you're talking about you, they're already 178 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: six figures by the time eight team. And if you 179 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: invest in a CAU studio account. That's why we we'd 180 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: like to talk about starting early, right, So right now 181 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: our kids are playing roadblocks and then using their iPads 182 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: and so these are company is that way invested in 183 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: and put it inside their studio accounts. Now, when we 184 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: talk about whole long term, that's not even enough vision 185 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: and like long term, like I'm seventeen, they're still young, right, 186 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: but that's ten years of equity that they've grown inside 187 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: those companies. And so that's another way. Just look at 188 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: what they're doing now right where they're invest in their time. 189 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: And because kids will tell you what's trending and what's hot, right, 190 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: they'll let you know that's so true. But you know what. So, 191 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: so my father had an UPMA for me, and of 192 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: course once I turned like eighteen and I was had 193 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: access to it, I blew right through it. So good. Yeah, 194 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: so so so the hard part is, yeah, we're gonna 195 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: say for our kids, but we also have to teach 196 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: them and create discipline for them so that they don't 197 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: blow through that money and so that they you know, 198 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: maybe continue to invest it. But that definitely happened to me. 199 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: Like me and my brother, we blew through our So 200 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: this is what not to do. But that's why we 201 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: we we And I've been saying this recently. It was 202 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: like we the term generational wealth is cool, but generation 203 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: generation that could be blown not to saying that that's 204 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: what happened to you, but the term really should be 205 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: sustainable wealth, right, so as they're growing and how do 206 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: they sustain it so that they can't mess this up? Right, Like, 207 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: there's no way we're gonna put the if this was bowling, 208 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: we're putting the bumpers up so that we we we've 209 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: generated the wealth right this generation, and we're gonna teach 210 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: them how to sustain it so that their kids and 211 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: their grandkids will always have this wealth right, because if 212 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: we teach generation, there's no way. I gave the example. 213 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: My dad worked for forty two years. My son is 214 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: eight years old. Since he's been alive, he's only seen 215 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: my dad's on the couch. He's never seen the hard 216 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: work that he had to put in. He's never seen 217 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: those things. And so like, yeah, I can teach you, 218 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: and you can watch me, but the more important thing 219 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: is how to sustain this long term Kicking it with 220 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: the King featuring Carlos King July. So let's get to 221 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: the list really quickly, because I had some questions about 222 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: this list. Now. I was happy that that I made 223 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: it on the list. I was honored because Carlos King 224 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: does not give out accolades easily at all. Okay, we 225 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: know that. So Kyle Richards was not on the list, 226 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: right and that was confusing to me because I feel 227 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: like she's held Beverly Hills together for fourteen seasons or 228 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: have a long naybe, I would agree with you. So 229 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: then why wasn't she on the list? She was not 230 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: on my top ten list right now, when I do 231 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: my top twenty, Kyle would be numbered eleven. I'm done. 232 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: I would be between the love and okay, okay, but 233 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: but I guess the big the bigger question, Carlos is 234 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: you had Danielle stop on the list. No shade to Danielle, 235 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: but Danielle was a housewife for well how many seasons 236 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: at one point too just and for two Whereas it's like, 237 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: if I feel like skin in the game speaks volumes, right, 238 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: Kyle has skinning the game like no other and and 239 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: every season she has a solid season and she keeps 240 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: that show going. So like, how would how would she 241 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: be over how would you overlook her to a Daniel style? Easily? 242 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: Name me one iconic thing that Kyle has done, Mauricio. 243 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: The splits, Carlos, That's what we got. Let's split exactly. No. Look, 244 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: I am a huge Kyle Richard's fan. I think she's 245 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: a great reality star, Kyle Richard's competing against the top ten. 246 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: She doesn't hold a candle to a Daniel style because 247 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and I said this 248 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: and and and quote me again, without Dan and Gel 249 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: nothing would have happened in New Jersey housewise, and I 250 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: was there the first two seasons and can say that 251 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: without Danielle the show would be boring and no disrespect 252 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: of Potomic Ladies, but we can also look at a 253 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: show like Potomac and say, without certain people, what would 254 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: be happening. So, because Danielle was on her own and 255 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Teresa at that time was very safe and sweet, Teresa's 256 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: table flip is courtesy of Danielle, so o Kyle. Although 257 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: Kyle is good at stirring the pot and listen, I 258 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: think Kyl is great, But when it comes to nine Bethany, Ramona, Teresa, Danielle, Giselle, Sara, 259 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: Kim Zosiac, Kyle, Kyle is an iconic, but she definitely 260 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: is a formidable player. Okay. So I heard a rumor 261 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: that that because you worked on Jersey the year at 262 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: the table got flipped, right, Yes, so she didn't really 263 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: flip the table. That was you under the table flipping 264 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: it for her. I heard a rumor that that was 265 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: Carlos under the table, and Teresa took all the credit 266 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: for Carlos flipping that table. So I was under the table, 267 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: handy dang yelled the book that she placed on the table, 268 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: and then you and then you flipped it, and then 269 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: you flipped because you said it's gonna be good. I 270 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: wish I was that. I wish I was a little 271 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: bright genius then, but I was. That was that your 272 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: first housewife show you worked on before? It was that 273 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: before Atlanta? That was after Atlanta? So what's funny? And 274 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: I did Atlanta season one, and and I had a 275 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: break for like two weeks, and then I got a 276 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: phone call about this housewife in New Jersey and I 277 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: decided to do New Jersey. Okay, but you weren't. You 278 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: weren't EP on New Jersey, were you? No? No, no, 279 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: I was in a books underneath the table rabbit. You're 280 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: a field producer. Okay, Oh, let's be clear. Act on 281 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta Girls. When I was at EP, honey, I still 282 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: was on my knees doing something to make sure the 283 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: scene was great. So, so where did you start in 284 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: in your producing career? Like how did you get started? Yeah? 285 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: So I went to college and I majored in journalism. 286 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: Because of that, I was afforded these internships. So I 287 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: interned at the View. I entered that MTV. My last 288 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: internship was at BT. A year later, I got a 289 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: job as a p A working on one or six 290 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: and Park and other shows. And then two years after that, 291 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: I got a phone call from a mutual friend who said, 292 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: I have this opportunity in Atlanta to do this reality 293 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: show called Ladies of Hotlanta. You love reality TV? Would 294 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: you be interested? And I was like, child, let me think. 295 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: And because I was like you, I gonna leave New 296 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: York City and go to Atlanta. But I said, you 297 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: know what, I'm a man of faith. Let me do it. 298 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: And it was the best decision of my career because 299 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: the rest is history. Okay, So you didn't start you 300 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: were an EP on season one Atlanta. No, No, I 301 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: wasn't a p until season six of Atlanta, which is 302 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: the highest rated season. And we know because a NIMI 303 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: called Peter a bit. Now I have a question, so, um, 304 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: because we spoke of you and people that have worked 305 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: producers on Potomac who have been very influential in helping 306 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: us get to where we are. Um, However, give me 307 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: an honest answer, Carlos, do you feel like do you 308 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: feel like because you are a man okay and and 309 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: you're a man helping women tell their story, do you 310 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: feel like you can do it better than a woman 311 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: helping women tell their story? Is there is there disconnot 312 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: a disconnect, but you know when women. We know what 313 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: we go through, we feel it. Yeah, so I'm what 314 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: are your thoughts. Yeah, that's a that's a very great question. No, 315 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I have a um an edge over 316 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: a woman who's also producer. Um. I think a woman 317 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: who's producing a show that's dominated by women, she has 318 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: to be confident in order to be honest with the 319 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: women and not be intimidated by the woman. And I 320 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: think the reality star who's a woman has to be 321 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: able to feel comfortable sharing your personal business because let's 322 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: just let's just be real. Historically, women don't like to 323 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: tell other women the business period. They just because it's 324 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: one of the things where it's like, girl, I don't 325 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: know you want my man, I don't know you want 326 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: my life. I don't know if there's some single black 327 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 1: or white female situation. So it takes a minute. So 328 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: when you come to a talented man, Gail straight, there's 329 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: a guard that's led down, right because it's like, well, 330 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: you can't take my man, and if you do, and 331 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: if you can, a whole another issue, right um um. 332 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: And I'm able to at least give you more more 333 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: of me because my guard is now. So I don't 334 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: think that, Um, we do a better job in women, 335 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: not at all. I think women can do a great job. 336 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: And what's funny is be let's talk to Giselle. I 337 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: remember talking to you your first season. I remember you 338 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: had a female Shaw runner and she called me and 339 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: you guys were in the middle of getting a scene together, 340 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: and Giselle said, oh, Carlos, I thought you were gone 341 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: are for this third And I was like, why did 342 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: that come from? That's so funny, I ask you that. Well, I, well, 343 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: I knew that we had the same production company. People 344 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: don't know this, but we have the same production company 345 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: as Atlanta Potoma does, and you were of producers. You're 346 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: the only person that we know their name, right, So 347 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: I just assume that they would in Atlanta was great. 348 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: So I just assumed it they would take whoever they 349 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: were using in Atlanta and give them to us so 350 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: that we could be great. Um. Now I can say 351 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: that the person that you were talking to, she was 352 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: great for us. She gave us the tools. Yeah, she 353 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: gave us the tools that we needed season one, season two. 354 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: I can, Carlos, and be honest, I can still hear 355 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: her in my brain. Um, she has this saying called 356 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: fix your face. And there's so many times where like 357 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm in a scene and that this face is jacked 358 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 1: all the way up, but I need to fix it. 359 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: And it's not anything that has to it's not anything 360 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: that has to do with the cast. It's what's going 361 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: on in producing like that. You know, sometimes the producing 362 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: of it all could be problematic, and you know, we 363 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: get upset about it, but but she gave us wonderful 364 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: tools to get us to a season. No season, Well 365 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: are we supposed to say that? Okay, fine, we just 366 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: did season show. I want to talk about now. I 367 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about you because Carlos, we know we 368 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: might have been in Miami, and Carlos heard we was 369 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: in Miami. And when I say, we me Robin and 370 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: some other ladies, and Carlos said, let me go meet 371 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: the lady days that sound Mike face to face up 372 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: closer and personal. And I totally loved it. Was so 373 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: happy that you did that. I'm sure you're you know, 374 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: you're a really busy guy and you took time out 375 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: to come and meet us and just keep key. I mean, 376 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: we had a good old KEI Kiva Carlos, Yes, no, 377 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: and and listen and I'll say this and I don't care. 378 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: He gets mad. I am a black man in this 379 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: business producing reality TV, and I'm such a fan of 380 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: reality And one thing about me is I support all 381 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: of my black females and males in this genre because 382 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: I know how hard it is to be great in 383 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: front of the camera being judged by the world. So 384 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: Number one, I want to make it very clear, I 385 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: am a fan. Number one, I thank you. I watched 386 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: Potomac and I get my entire life. So when I 387 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: was told that you ladies were well, that you two 388 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: and some other folks were in Miami, I you know, 389 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: I didn't tell you all this. I canceled two meetings 390 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: and I said, and I said, I have to meet them. 391 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm a fan, just like meeting Beyonce. Oh my gosh. 392 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I said, but Carlos, this is 393 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: what you don't know. So after you laughing everything, um, 394 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: Karen comes up to me and she says, at Giselle, 395 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: did you did you get to meet the Carlos? Did 396 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: you did you meet Carlos? I said, yes, bitch, before you, Yes, 397 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: I met Carlos. Okay, he came and saw me first, 398 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: and look and look. Some other people were like, Carlos 399 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: was here. I didn't see Carlos. Yeah, that's probably abolist. 400 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, listen, I love I love 401 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: all of you, ladies, but I will say this, it 402 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: was a pleasure of beating the two of you. I'm 403 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: not gonna say who us was in the room because 404 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: I ain't stupid, but I have to say, first of all, guys, 405 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: Gizelee and Robin are gorgeous in person like like no makeup. 406 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: We were in the bed, like when I said to you, guys, 407 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: we had a key. We had a key, key. And 408 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: the beauty of talking to Graizelee and Robin was they're 409 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: such great professionals and they know how to do their 410 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: job and we just had a I don't want to 411 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: spoil it, but we just had a good time talking 412 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: about the show and the scenes and this and just 413 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: reality TV. They threw me shade, you know. It was 414 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: it was, it was, It was fun, and I want 415 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: people to know that at the very end of the day, 416 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: I am a huge fan of Potomac and I say 417 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: this all the time, and I'm not disrespecting my land 418 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: of girls, who I will always loved. But the real 419 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: Hall wots up. Potomac to me is the best Housewise 420 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: out right now. So wait before before you switch topics. 421 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: So when when you were um, when we were in 422 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: the room, you called Giselle executive producer and you called 423 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: me co executive producer. So what are you when you're 424 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: watching Potomac? What are you seeing that makes you think that? Okay, 425 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: So as a student, no, let let me not be 426 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: so humble. As a professor of super Sorry, Dr Wendy, 427 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm the professor tonight. So you're talking about don't do it. 428 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: Don't do it? So luck when I watched the show 429 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: and that and that's the reason why I'm saying what 430 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: I said earlier was the relationship between the producer and 431 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: the cast members crucial because there's a level of trust. 432 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: And when you talked about the female producer, who you 433 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: still here in your ear like fix that face. I 434 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: can't wash Potomac. And one thing about the two of you, 435 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: y'all play off of each other. And I'll give it. 436 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: I'll give an example of two scenes that are I'll 437 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: give three very quickly. I'll give three very quickly. Season one, 438 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: episode one, Jeez, Okay, because I I do this ship 439 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: for real. When Gizelle told Karen, y'all have this argument 440 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: about the crab boils, and it was this whole thing 441 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: in the mirror. I I knew in that instance. I said, Oh, Gizelle, 442 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: it's like this has to be in the first episode. 443 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a part of anything boring, so 444 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: let me make sure to just be honest. And since 445 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: Karen and are friends in real life, let me read 446 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: her real quick and it won't matter. So that's a 447 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm not suner one. Number two is last season when 448 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: Professor Wendy and the two of you were on the couch. 449 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: You guys were on the cash trip. Um Ashley took 450 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: off maternity leave to be messy and to deliver the 451 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: message to Dr Wendy and y'all to set on the couch. 452 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: Wendy had was fed up to here y'all look on 453 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: the couch and said, girl, I don't really give a ship. 454 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 1: This was a great scene. I'm going to sip on 455 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: my bottle water with the straw, and Robin said, I'm 456 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: going to literally finger myself as you talk about that. 457 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: I was like, they are good paired and last or 458 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: not leaves last but not least when Ashley and Candice 459 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: had that altercation in candice home and Ashley gave the 460 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: read of girl, you mean your mama high official Mama table, 461 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: which I think is everything and canvas stupid knife. That 462 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: was all orchestrated because Robin's said, I'm just gonna say it. Uh, 463 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: your husband actually suck one stead like you set a 464 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: flat out and then Giselle said you leave it. I'll 465 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: come back in the house because we said I'm gonna 466 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: work to do because the crew is here for another 467 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: two hours. So that's what I mean when I say 468 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: you guys are the executive and the co EP. Shady 469 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: Preacher featuring Jamal Bryant November. Jamal is good about not 470 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: bragging on himself, but there's a little bragg I want 471 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: to do. You feed the community. When the COVID first started, 472 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: New Birth was very intentional about feeding the community. You 473 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: have fed how many I'm saying it wrong, you have 474 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: done how many? How many? So in the in the pandemic, 475 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: we started giving our groceries and uh, just a month 476 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: ago we hit one million families that we give groceries 477 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: to in the last few years. And it is great 478 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: and it is embarrassing to know that food insecurity is 479 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: that dire. And we're just talking about one metropolitan Erica. 480 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: For Thanksgiving, we're giving our five thousand turkeys. Uh. While 481 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: that sounds good in one way, in another way, it's 482 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: saying that it has to be done. Yeah. Now we 483 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: said one million groceries two years. Families, one million families, 484 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: one million bags of groceries in two years. Yeah, that's 485 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: fantast that's fantast I remember when I was when we 486 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: were married and I was the first lady of the 487 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: Paramit Temple Um the Women's Ministry that look, you know 488 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: what I know my next question, the Women's Ministry would decided, 489 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: Jamal has his hands over his face, right, it's covering 490 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: his face. We decided to to feed as many families 491 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: as we could and literally go to their house, knock 492 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: on the door and give them the food. So I 493 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: had like a bus. I had security. I was pregnant 494 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: the time with one of them kids I have and um, 495 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: and I was going knocking on doors. So it's like 496 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: I was in the hood of Baltimore knocking on doors. 497 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: You did not know what was gonna open the door. 498 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: All kinds of things was opening the door as I was. Yes, 499 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we were blessing them, but it was 500 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: such a blessing to me to be able to give 501 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: them what the Church gave them, and for me like 502 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: they would invite me in. It would be like a 503 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: weed infestive smelling house, and they would invite me in, 504 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: and I would pray with him a little bit and 505 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: I would say Happy Thanksgiving. But we made sure that 506 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: we gave them food from Thanksgiving to Christmas. Wow, so right, 507 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: enough food for for to last at least a month. 508 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: So yes, as that's what I did as first lady 509 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: at a POM. That fantastic. So look, speaking of gall 510 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: being first lady at Empowerment Temple, tell us Jamal, how 511 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: was just out as a first lady? There's a pause? 512 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: No, no no, no, So just Lle was not a Mother 513 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: Teresa first lady hit her head. She was a Michelle 514 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: Obama first lady. Yes, yes, she was coming in waving. 515 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: I was not waving to the it she was. She 516 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: was the black Princess due. She did a great job. Okay, well, 517 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: while we're on that that note, she did our first 518 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: women's conference. Yes, um, she did a whole lot of 519 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: mentoring a lot of the young girls came to her 520 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: from mentoring. A lot of the young ladies who had 521 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: come to Baltimore to go to either Copping or Morgan 522 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: really pulled on her. She wrote a whole lot of 523 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: a k letters, half of the aks and bolts to 524 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: my let us from Gazelle. Listen, I was the bomb. 525 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: Okay even back then. Now now I want to say, 526 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: there's some things that I missed not being married to 527 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Jamal Bran Okay, okay, which is one of the things 528 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: I used to complain about. I think I now missage. Okay. 529 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: So you know, like I said, Jamal travels a lot, 530 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: so he would have to get his his suits and 531 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: his ties and his shirts together before he would go 532 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: on his trips. So he would always be like, wake 533 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: me up out of my sleep. Now you want to 534 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: be sleep, and when you sleep, leave me alone. But 535 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: he would wake me up, turn on all the lights. 536 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: He would say, Gazelle, does this suit go with this tie? 537 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: But does this shirt go with this tie? In this suit? Okay, 538 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, let 539 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: me get three other ties. Okay, these three ties go 540 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: with this five shirts. I mean it was like, so 541 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: you missed this. Now I'm just saying you have for 542 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: the store. What she missed I was picking her clothes out. 543 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: That's what she missed. When I was picking her clothes out, robbing, 544 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: she wasn't in no blog when I don't pick it out. 545 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, the same we brought this off ing. 546 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: I need you to be robbing, you gotta be. I 547 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: was my first stylist of truth, the whole truth and 548 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: nothing but the truth, robbing. When I first met you, 549 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: where did I meet you? You met me at the 550 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: A C. Where did I first meet you? Rob Yes? 551 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: It as sacks, yes, true, yes, Sacks yes, yes. So 552 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: she does not miss picking out my ties. She misses 553 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: me dressing her. That's what she's not going to give 554 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: confession to. Okay, this is this is a breaking moment. Yes, 555 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: Jamal Bryant was my first stylist. Really, yes, okay my 556 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: last right and you're only only yes okay. See that 557 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: was one of my one of my questions for jam 558 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: All was how does he go about picking his outfits out? 559 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: Because you know, you look nice and sharp now, but 560 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: I've seen sometimes you have, like, you know, a pink 561 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: tie and a pink silky shirt talking about them Detroit 562 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: player suits you had, Okay, you had some plenty of 563 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: Detroit player suits. Do you do? You have a tailor, 564 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: and you're just like, give me one of every color, 565 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: give me everything in every color, in every print. What 566 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: the shade is coming. It's a work in progress. So 567 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: when I was at U from Detroit, Uh, that's when 568 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: I started wearing gagos So when I met Gazelle, I 569 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: had different color Gators for every suit. Gazelle threw my 570 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: gauges out. So I've tried to purge. I've tried to 571 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: purge that party and walk backwards. It's a working progress, yes, 572 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: but I mean they were like they were like, it's 573 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: like a whole green suit with the matching green gators, 574 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: orange suits with that matching. He had this one white leather. 575 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: They weren't ready. It's definitely not ready. I don't know 576 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: you were killing them, but they weren't ready. White leather, 577 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: trench coade. I couldn't wait for him to go on 578 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: a trip leather. I do that thing in the trash. 579 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: I said, I can't do this. You ain't no, no, no, 580 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: I was ahead of my time. White leather cause, um, okay, 581 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: So where I threw it in the trash can Jamal 582 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: Bryant's it's gone. Okay, that thing probably costs fourteen dollars. 583 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: It is gone. I couldn't take it. Um but no, 584 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: I feel like you have come a long way and 585 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: I love you. Do you do rock the dashiki situation? Sometimes? 586 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: I see you on the Instagram? Um? So, so do 587 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: you like dashiki suits? Get you a man that could 588 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: do both? Did you a man that can do both? 589 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: Is that what he said? But to answer your question, 590 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: he has tailors upon Taylors upon Taylors. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, 591 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: I believe that. Yes see, I'm not a really good cook, 592 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: so I'm not. I don't I didn't really wine and 593 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: Dina Jamal a by my home cooking. Right, But what 594 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: was your favorite part of Robber? Let me tell you 595 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: that robbing, Robbing? I gotta tell you this. You know 596 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: what our first fight was in marriage? What was that? 597 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: I have no idea? When are you going to the supermarket? 598 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: You didn't know before robbing she was coming back with 599 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: chips and started getting the home cooked meals to the girls. 600 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: Was oh my god. Okay, but yeah, in my defense, 601 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: in my defense, Jamal, you like to go to restaurants 602 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: to eat. You like to do that, but when we're 603 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: sitting in the same house, you gotta go down the 604 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: state Robin, this is two thousand one, No Huber eating. No, 605 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: there was no brother. This is the one just got 606 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: off a motor rolling two way pages something. Okay, this 607 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: was actually gonna be my last question to you, and 608 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: and we might finish it just for what he just said. 609 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: But anyway, okay, so what was the best part about 610 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: being married to Chisel? Because you're the only person on 611 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: this planet that has been married to me, there's a 612 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: reason there would be a whole another show it to you. No, no, no, 613 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: just Zell pushed me to be better. And she's the 614 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: only one out out of my parents who has spoken 615 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: into my life to really push me to go to 616 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: another level. I preached um at a conference at my 617 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: home church one day and I thought I killed that John. 618 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Star Wars the Force was with 619 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: and Giselle. We got in a car and Giselle was like, 620 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: you have really stopped growing? Do you really think just 621 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: the best that you can do? I was high level offended, 622 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: but it really seriously but didn't really go to another point. 623 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: And then when this herschel Walker video went virable, I 624 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: saw Giselle maybe a week after that, and she said, 625 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: this is your vein. Why did you leave that? You 626 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: need to stay in what it is that you're good 627 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: at and be your best. And a lot of people, 628 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: uh don't really have authentic friends that can push you 629 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: to be better. Uh. And so the thing that I 630 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: value about Giselle, She's always pushed me to be better, 631 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: even if she's pushing me over the cliff without a parachute. Okay, 632 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna leave it at that. That was such a 633 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: nice way to end. I want everybody know Jamal Bryant 634 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite people on Earth. Oh that's nice. Yes, 635 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people on Earth. That don't do 636 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: that because rapping is sitting there, not one of, not 637 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: one of don't do that. You're not the I have. 638 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that because 639 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: rapping is sitting Now. Okay, I have I have Grace 640 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: Angel and my favorite people. It's okay, I can say 641 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: that you you are in the top five. Okay, a 642 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: favorite people. But I have three kids. I have three kids, 643 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: three kids, I have two parents. I have three kids. 644 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: I have two parents. Yes, so you you beat out 645 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: one parent. Jeez. Anyway, thank you for letting me come 646 00:37:49,080 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: on the show. Words to Live By May nine. So 647 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: Robin has eight sentences that we should all live our 648 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: lives by. So this is gonna be profound, y'all. Y'all, 649 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about a whole lot of stuff, 650 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: a whole lot of nonsense, but we do try to, 651 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, impart some type of inspirational words as well. Um. 652 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: So I come across these posts on Instagram and I'll 653 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: save them, and I said, I'm going to share this 654 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: with the podcast listeners because I love you all. So 655 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: this is eight sentences that everyone should believe. Okay, Okay, 656 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: so you should believe Okay. So I haven't heard any 657 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: of these sentences, okay, but I'm here to tell you. 658 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: If something sounds crazy, I'm gonna let you know. Okay, 659 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Okay. Um, you have to lose a 660 00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: few people find yourself. That's true. I like that. I 661 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: like that. But are they um exclusive? You know what 662 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: I mean? Like? Can they be mutually exclusive? Like can 663 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: you find yourself without happening without having to lose people? Yeah? Um. 664 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: According to this post, no you cannot Okay, continue on. 665 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: I think I think it actually should read. You shouldn't 666 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: be afraid to lose a few people to find yourself. 667 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I got one for you. Okay, No, okay, 668 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: you do yours, okay before you forget Okay. So this 669 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: is my T. D. Jake's impressionation. Okay, because I've watched 670 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: this real about fourteen times. Okay. So T. D. Jake said, 671 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,479 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna let fear rue rue your life, even 672 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: if you scare, even if you're trembling, even if you 673 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: um can't do it, and you and you're terrified, do 674 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: it anyway, have the courage to do it because you 675 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: don't want to be in the old folks home being 676 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: in a bad band. And you didn't do it? Did 677 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: he really say that? Yes? Yes, And let me tell 678 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: you something. That thing shook me to the core, right you. Yeah, 679 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: But whatever it is I was fearful about. I was 680 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: probably scared that I don't know anyway, But I mean 681 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate that like like fear will like debilitate you, yes, 682 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: and it will stop you from from doing a lot 683 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: of stuff that you you you know, it can stop 684 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: you from leading a life that you never even imagine 685 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: that you could leave. Yes, and a lot of times 686 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: the fears in your head, so it's like you're you're 687 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: stopping yourself from doing something. But once you go ahead 688 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: and do it, you look back like, what what was 689 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: the scared of that for? Exactly? And then you know 690 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: you just never want to have regrets. So do you 691 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: want to let fear prevent you from doing stuff that? 692 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: When you're an old folks home, you're like, man, I 693 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: should have just done that, I should have just done X, 694 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: Y and Z. Let me tell you something. I'm out 695 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: here doing it. Yes, yes, all right, so back to 696 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: my list. So you have to lose a few people 697 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: to find yourself, which I think we should edit to say, 698 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: don't be afraid of losing a few people in order 699 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: to find yourself. And I think that you know that 700 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: can apply to friendships, relationships, you know, businesses, whatever, coworkers, um. 701 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes people are holding you back, um number two. Sometimes 702 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: it's best to keep it private until you know it's permanent. 703 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, hunts need hunt. It's very 704 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: difficult for being robbing to keep things private because we're 705 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: on this show your Housewives of Potomach and they all 706 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: in our business. But I do agree with that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 707 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean whenever whatever, it is like in 708 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 1: good stuff and bad stuff. So I think about when 709 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: you're going through stras. See, it's hard because like when 710 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: you're going through struggles with your partner or with a 711 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: friend or whatever, and then you, um, you can find 712 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: in another person, right, and then you make up, you 713 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: resolve those issues, and then that other person is still 714 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: mad and they like, don't you remember where he did? 715 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: And so it's like sometimes it's like you really have 716 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: to be careful with what you're sharing with people because 717 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: sometimes they're gonna hold hold it against you. And then 718 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: on the flip side, it's like you could think that 719 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: you're about to close a business deal. I don't you 720 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: do you know how many people because in the world 721 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: of reality TV, UM reality TV production companies and casting companies, 722 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 1: they try to cast people left right up, down all around. 723 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: Do you know how many people I've heard that have 724 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: gone around telling all their friends and family that they're 725 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: going to be famous and they're gonna be on reality 726 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: TV because someone so talked to them and blah blah blah, 727 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: and it doesn't happen, right, So then you're left looking stupid, 728 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: kind of stupid when people are like, hey, whatever happened 729 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: to that show? You said you were going to be one? 730 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 1: Whatever happened to that? Because I mean and that it's 731 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: so funny because like I applied that to my own 732 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: experience with Potomac. Remember, I mean, could tell you listen, 733 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: we're all season three and I was like, so we're 734 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 1: on a show, right, Yes, we've been doing this for years. 735 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Like the cameras at my door? 736 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, what y'all doing here? So so anyway, yeah, 737 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: I just think it's important. It's it's always hard. It's like, 738 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: just be careful with what you share and who you 739 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: share it with and how premature you share and all 740 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: that type of stuff. Okay, now I gotta go back 741 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: to my phone and I gotta a call coming in. 742 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: Why doesn't iPhone like you can't hit decline when your 743 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: phone when you're not like on your phone. Anyway, that's 744 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: a whole another subject. I can we can have our 745 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: iPhone rans later? Okay? Number three? If you can attach, 746 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: you can detach hm. So that that brings me to 747 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: a story so I was, um, this was years ago, 748 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: and I was, um, I thought I was on a date. Okay, 749 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was doing a little vak 750 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: with this dude, right, And I didn't really know when 751 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: I was he let's say he had to be there 752 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: for the week and I was in town for a 753 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: couple of days, and I didn't really know when I 754 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: was leaving, right because I had just had stuff to do. 755 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: And he was like, just Elsa, when when are you leaving? 756 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: And I was like, are you trying to get rid 757 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: of me? Right? And he said, no, I need to. 758 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out when to disconnect. Oh, and 759 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: that that also was rude to me. I was like, 760 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: what the hell does that mean? But he I understood, 761 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: like he just wanted to know, like when was the 762 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: disconnection happening? Yeah? So was that so disconnect from like 763 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: being hospitable, or disconnect from me getting out of his room, 764 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: disconnect from us being together? Really? Yeah, he just it 765 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: was a very strange way of him asking me, yes, 766 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: I proceeded to start packing, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, 767 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: like okay, you know what in fact, well and my 768 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: flight leaves in ten minutes. But I think really it 769 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: was because I never really had I didn't know when 770 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: I was leaving, so he you know, I guess he 771 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: just needs to know when I was leaving anyway, Yes, 772 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: that that that I mean, I guess that's similar. But 773 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: um yeah, like if you can attach to something or 774 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: some one, then you have the ability to detach as well, 775 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: so don't So it's pretty much don't put all your eggs, 776 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: have them egg scrambletony all over the alright. Number four, 777 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,479 Speaker 1: social media has made perfect look achievable, so now real 778 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: has become undesirable, and that's so true. Yeah, yeah, I 779 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: mean I think honestly, I think even before social media, 780 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: people had issues with trying to achieve perfection. You know, 781 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: whether it's like passed on, passed down from their parents. 782 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: You know how many people I know that have like 783 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: parent issues you know what I'm saying, because their mother 784 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: wanted them to be skinny, or you know what, they 785 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: wanted to live up to their parents expectations and stuff. 786 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: So so yeah, I mean social media definitely. You know 787 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,919 Speaker 1: people on social media, they're not and I would say 788 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: most most of us are guilty of it. We're not 789 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: going to post the ugly pictures, but no I don't. 790 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't want y'all see that, right, Yeah, I mean, 791 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: but you know, it is like the filters and stuff, like, 792 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, you have to be mindful that if you're 793 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: posting a picture and you look nothing like that, you 794 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: don't post that, right that. Yeah, that's an issue. Yeah, yeah, 795 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: but yes, we we. I would love to be back 796 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: to real nous because because I do feel like if 797 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: you look at what people look like today with with 798 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: or without filters and stuff, versus what they look like 799 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: in the eighties, you know what I mean, people in 800 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 1: the eighties were just more raw and more like now 801 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: it's just like, I don't know, we're so like overdone. 802 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: I agreed, agreed, Yes, yeah, And I want to go 803 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: back to having like real conversations with people. Yes, yeah, 804 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,240 Speaker 1: I used to do that a lot. Yeah, I agree. 805 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's see number five. Anything that costs you 806 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: your mental health is too expensive look elsewhere, Like what 807 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: give me an example. I mean, anything that's stressing you 808 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: out to the point where you're like, you know, you're 809 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: feeling depressed or yeah, I mean ship that can be 810 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: a whole lot of stuff. So it's pretty much saying 811 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: like there's nothing out here, that's worth compromising and you know, 812 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: weakening your mental health, right, So so yeah, just keep 813 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: that in mind. If something is bothering you to the 814 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,720 Speaker 1: point where it's consuming you and you can't think straight 815 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: and you're depressed, and let it go. Agree Number six. 816 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: If they don't know you personally, never take it personally. 817 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: Oh that's not good on that And that's good for 818 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: people that are in business. Of times, if you're in 819 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: business and something happens and you take it so personally, 820 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: it ain't personal. It is business. That's true. That's true, 821 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: but it's it's like so important. It's like even if 822 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: you know someone like in passing, people still might not 823 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: know the real you, Like if you don't spend a 824 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 1: lot of time around someone, um, you know, like, still 825 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: don't take that stuff personally personal. Yeah, And I always 826 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: like flip it on a person. I'm like, well, that's 827 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: they issue, that's their insecurity, that's there, you know, whatever, 828 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 1: their their mama drama that they're putting on you. Yes, 829 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 1: and if and I just want to put this out there, 830 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,959 Speaker 1: if you want a reality television show and you're getting 831 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: a paycheck, it's business. That's very true. Yeah, just saying 832 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: very true, it's hard, it's a little it's because we are, 833 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, friends, we want to be friends. We want 834 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: to nurture our friendship. Very true. It is definitely a 835 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: fine line. Number seven. Never assumed that loud is strong 836 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: or quiet is weak. It's often the other way around. 837 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: Very true. I would I would agree with that. Yes, 838 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: my grandfather like barely spoke, but when he did, you listen, 839 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: you listen, and even when he was quiet, it was 840 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: like just his presence in the room spoke volume. So yeah, 841 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 1: I want to stop talking. But then there are some 842 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: people who who you know, they walk in and they're like, 843 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, they they want to be the center of attention. 844 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: And it's like you can just tell like, okay, you're 845 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: not you're not comfortable where you are, you know what 846 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's it's it's yeah, so never soon 847 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: all right, if you're happy alone, you'll be happier together. 848 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: So I guess it's saying, like two people, if you're 849 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: happy and content by yourself, by yourself, then in a relationship, 850 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: that that makes for a better relationship. Facts, yes, yeah, 851 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,240 Speaker 1: and then like you might even like being alone better 852 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: than the relations Just send them home. The yep that 853 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: was it. Those were good. I think people can learn 854 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: from all of those. I mean, something you can speak 855 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: to somebody. Yeah, I think I think that sometimes we 856 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: just have to stop and like really think about what's 857 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: important and what's what's valued, what we're valuing, and what 858 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: we should like get rid of. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And 859 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: I just like one of my I think people seeking 860 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: per affection is like the root of a lot of 861 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: issues that people have in life, you know. So it's 862 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 1: just like, if we can just let go of our 863 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: desire to be perfect, in our desire to be perceived 864 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 1: as perfect, so much will just you know be better. 865 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: Like you know, everyone you're just afraid to fail or 866 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: you don't want to disappoint someone or or you know, 867 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: afraid you don't want to be judged, Like so what Yeah, 868 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: And I don't even really And I tell my this 869 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: to my kids because I'm raising three teenage daughters and 870 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 1: so that whole perfection thing is huge right now. So 871 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: I always tell them, like, I don't even understand what 872 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: perfect means, Like what does that mean? Right? Who defines perfect? Right? 873 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: Just be yourself and that's the perfect whatever that is 874 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: flaws and all so um, But yeah, I think that 875 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: that's what we're given to the people. Yes, if you are, 876 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: if you are something called perfect, don't be perfect. No, 877 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 1: that's not you, don't exist. Just be yourself, damn it. 878 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 1: Figure out what that is. Figure out what makes you happy, 879 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: what makes you sad. Just be yourself. Yes. 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