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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of The Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New

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Speaker 2: York Football Giants. I'm John Schmelk. Hello everybody. I'm recording

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Speaker 2: this opening close back at the Quest Diagnostics Training Center

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Speaker 2: in Lovely East Werother for New Jersey on Friday. This

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Speaker 2: is the final part of our three part series with

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Speaker 2: all of my interviews from the players at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I just want to thank Jim Naggy, Molly Middleton and

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Speaker 2: her great staff, Richard Hannah, all the other great people

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Speaker 2: on their staff for forgetting us all these players and

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Speaker 2: really making the time out there. Productive learned a lot

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Speaker 2: about these guys and about the players, and you really

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Speaker 2: had a lot of fun. So before you listen to this,

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Speaker 2: if you haven't listened to part one or part two.

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Speaker 2: Part one, we're interviews recorded on Tuesday. Part two were

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Speaker 2: interviews recorded on Wednesday. And then if you go back

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Speaker 2: to the weekend, I interviewed from last weekend from the

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Speaker 2: Shrine Bowl. That's a two part Pearce and I split

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Speaker 2: that into episodes on offense and defense. So a lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff going up this week, a lot of content.

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Speaker 2: So this is Part three of Senior Bowl Interviews. These

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Speaker 2: happened with late Wednesday afternoon, some short ones I did

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Speaker 2: during media day, and then longer radio row interviews, including

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Speaker 2: a really my favorite interview the week with Tes Johnson

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Speaker 2: that I did on Thursday morning, So that was before

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Speaker 2: the last day of practice, but after the first two

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Speaker 2: But again, if you missed the earlier interview series from

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Speaker 2: this week, go back. It's on the Johnsonttle podcast feed.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna find these on the YouTube channel or

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Speaker 2: on the app. They're audio only. They're only on the

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Speaker 2: podcast feed, So go listen to those previous shows if

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Speaker 2: you haven't done it. Really good interviews. You get to

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Speaker 2: learn a lot about these players. All right, let's get

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Speaker 2: things kick started. Part three, our final edition of our

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Speaker 2: interviews from the Senior Bowl. We're joined by Jade Higins,

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Speaker 2: wide receiver for Iowa State. Jane, how do you think you've

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Speaker 2: done the first couple of days of practice.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think I'd done pretty good, you know,

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Speaker 3: just trying to get better each and every day. Just

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Speaker 3: the whole reason for me to come out here was

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Speaker 3: just to compete against these top guys and you know,

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Speaker 3: just just show case my skills.

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Speaker 2: So in that competition, what were some of the things

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Speaker 2: on your checklist that you wanted to show the scouts,

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Speaker 3: Really everything, you know, there was nothing in particular. You know,

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Speaker 3: I feel like my film speaks for itself. Just wanting

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Speaker 2: Extremely productive, bigger wide receiver in those one on ones

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Speaker 2: against press Man. Well, how about your goals and those

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Speaker 2: What did you want to show against some of those

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Speaker 3: Of course, the biggest thing is getting out pressed, getting

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Speaker 4: You know, by everything.

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Speaker 2: Everything is there, Anything that you've get been told maybe

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Speaker 2: were like, oh well, I'm not sure if GEDI can

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Speaker 2: Would say is kind of like my speed.

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Speaker 3: I feel like people sleep on my speed a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But what what are you think you're gonna run when

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Speaker 2: Do you have a goal?

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Speaker 2: I want to talk talk about your teammate Jillen Nowell,

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Speaker 2: but very different type of wide receivers. So how did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, versus started with the offensive coordinator just

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, how.

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Speaker 2: Do you think your skill set would fit into an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think my skill set can fend

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Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day, you play receiver.

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Speaker 2: Do you see yourself as a traditional X? Do you

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Speaker 2: Where do you think your best spot is.

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Speaker 3: I think I can go anywhere wherever the team needs

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Speaker 3: me to make plays. I played slide, I played outside

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Speaker 2: All, all right? So big, big, thirty eight, fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: I don't have a specific spine general I want to

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Speaker 2: That's a good answer. How has it been like trying

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been smooth, you know, It's cool coming out

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Speaker 3: been awesome, honestly.

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Speaker 2: Jaden, good stuff. Man, Appreciate the time, best luck the

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We're joined by Iowa state wide receiver Jalen the Well.

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Speaker 2: You measured in five to nine, just under ten and

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Speaker 7: Yeah, during the season, I played around one ninety eight

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Speaker 2: Now. A lot of slot guys you think, all right,

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Speaker 2: more quick than fast, right. I watch your tape leading

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Speaker 2: onto this and you're just running by everybody. You're you're

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Speaker 2: more of a vertical slot. So why don't you kind

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like you said, I can take the top off

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Speaker 7: of a defense. I feel like my speed is very

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Speaker 4: My routes, but I can also be quick.

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Speaker 7: I feel like in the short game I could be

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Speaker 7: an asset in the short game, intermediate game, and I

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Speaker 2: I was talking to your Teammjaden yesterday and we talked

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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, Yeah, they've definitely compliment each other. Obviously, he's

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Speaker 7: a big body receiver, but he can run every route

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Speaker 7: and then I can as well. So it's very hard

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Speaker 2: How do you think you've done the first couple of

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've done great.

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Speaker 7: I feel like I've put a lot of good stuff

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Speaker 4: So far, and being able to win on the outside.

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Speaker 7: It was a question for some teams, and I feel

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've won the outside and a lot

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Speaker 2: wanted to show NFL teams and evaluators when you're on

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like my body control was something that

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Speaker 7: good catches on the sideline, being able to get both

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Speaker 7: I feel like that's been something that I've been able

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Speaker 2: How about when you meet with them and you're trying

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just want them to know I'm a very

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Speaker 2: When you're talking about your speed, you talked about your

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys are fast, but they don't it

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Speaker 2: does they don't use it correctly to create separation? Right,

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Speaker 2: So how do you use your speed, and what other

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 7: A lot of it begins with working edges against dbs.

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Speaker 7: If you can make them feel uncomfortable and make them

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Speaker 4: And then knowing when to change tempo. If you got

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Speaker 7: You can't be super slow on a post for twelve

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Speaker 7: Be mindful of that.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so when you're out there and you're doing

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Speaker 2: these one on one drolls, how much have you scattered

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Speaker 2: these corners that you're going up against before you got here?

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Speaker 2: Did you look at any tape so you were kind

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Speaker 2: of ready to go one.

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Speaker 7: On one with these guys or no, Yeah, I watched

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Speaker 7: a little bit of film just getting the base things down.

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Speaker 2: How much in slot? I'm curious how much did you

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Speaker 4: It wasn't too much.

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Speaker 7: A little bit more over this year with some new

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's something were every day I practice with

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Speaker 4: Although if you were a sly outside guy, we're all.

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Speaker 4: It has been very fun.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like they made the terminology similar. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Awesome, Hey Jay, what it's been great getting know you?

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Speaker 5: I'm good.

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Speaker 8: I'm glad to be here, Glad to have the opportunity

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Speaker 2: So how are you feeling, man? You had a long year.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, sixteen games and then get the opportunity

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Speaker 8: feel like it's kind of an advantage for us. Why

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Speaker 8: and kind of after the National Championship it's kind of

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I have talked to some of the guys

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Speaker 2: it's taken me like a practice and a half just

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Speaker 8: Right, No, Yeah, pads fit great still.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely. Was that a tough decision for you

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Speaker 8: So I didn't find out I had the invite until

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Speaker 8: And so immediately I was like, yeah, like I'm in,

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Speaker 2: Call your agent first, right, Let's see.

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Speaker 8: But anyway, from the get go, I was ready to

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, I mean what a wild swing of emotions, right,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this this opportunity is given to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So I was just really excited to get back on

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Speaker 2: So what did you learn about yourself? How did you

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Speaker 2: think you improved playing against that terrific competition. Obviously Notre

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know.

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Speaker 2: Now, one backer is a really tough position to play

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 8: They're just trying to influence you into doing stuff that

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Speaker 8: But you know you can utilize stuff and tells and

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Speaker 2: I imagine that's a lot of study that goes.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. What's on your checklist for things that you

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Speaker 8: Yeah, when I'm on the field this week, Like obviously

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean since my time at Notre Dame, I've

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Speaker 8: even Sam out on the edge and in the perimeter.

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Speaker 8: So I think they see me as a stackbacker right yep,

445
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Speaker 8: get back behind the big boys to the ball, right

446
00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,240
Speaker 8: and run to the ball exactly use athleticism. But you know,

447
00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,440
Speaker 8: different schemes see at different places. And so I think

448
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Speaker 8: just you know, knowing my versatility and they've been able

449
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Speaker 8: to see that that they feel comfortable with me, just

450
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Speaker 8: you know, being able to be on the field.

451
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Speaker 2: Now, this is a challenge. Have you had Have you

452
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Speaker 2: had the green dot at all this week?

453
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

454
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Speaker 2: You have?

455
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Speaker 8: Right, I had it all season and then have had

456
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Speaker 8: it this year, and i'd likely this game this week,

457
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Speaker 8: and so it's been a lot of fun.

458
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Speaker 2: I knew you had another dame, I just wasn't sure

459
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Speaker 2: if you haven't practice yet. So you don't just have

460
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Speaker 2: to learn a defense quickly, you have to understand it

461
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Speaker 2: so you can then communicate to your teammates. Right, how's

462
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Speaker 2: it been trying to absorb this NFL defense over the

463
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Speaker 2: course of thirty forty eight hours seventy two hours and

464
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Speaker 2: kind of get it onto the field so you can

465
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Speaker 2: only do your best for yourself but also help your

466
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Speaker 2: teammates as the leader of that defense.

467
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean for me, it's been awesome, right, Like

468
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Speaker 8: getting no NFL defense, speaking with NFL coaches and learning

469
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Speaker 8: the why behind it, right like that allows you to

470
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Speaker 8: actually fully understand it. Yeah, and then it allows you

471
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Speaker 8: also help elders and tell els and understand the full picture.

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Speaker 5: Right.

473
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Speaker 8: It's all just pieces to a puzzle at the end

474
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Speaker 8: of the day. And so it's been great to be

475
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Speaker 8: able to you know, dive into that, get that you

476
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Speaker 8: know under your belt, and then also help guys around

477
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Speaker 8: you and see everybody play fast and play together.

478
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Speaker 2: All right, I want to ask you about three your

479
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Speaker 2: teammates real quick. Two guys with Johnny connecttions, rj Obin

480
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Speaker 2: and of course how across the third both dads played

481
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Speaker 2: for US. I'm friends with both their dads. Talk about

482
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Speaker 2: those guys as players and people.

483
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Speaker 8: Yeah, just first off, let's start with the people part,

484
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,719
Speaker 8: like just special people. You go notre dame to be somebody, right,

485
00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,320
Speaker 8: not to be a football player, but to be a

486
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Speaker 8: whole person. And to see those guys and just see

487
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Speaker 8: how well they belonged in the locker room and the

488
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Speaker 8: type of dudes they were in the work ethic. Just outstanding,

489
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Speaker 8: outstanding men. Football players like you know, they make plays, right,

490
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Speaker 8: Howard Cross is so dynamic inside a little bit undersized,

491
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Speaker 8: but he's so twitchy and powerful and his hands are massive.

492
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Speaker 6: Just mits on him and.

493
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Speaker 2: You guys put those tackle and he's playing nose tackle.

494
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Speaker 8: Yeah exactly, and he's holding up against six hundred pounds

495
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Speaker 8: and he's not moving an inch. And then R j

496
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Speaker 8: Oben like coming in this year just being a guy,

497
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Speaker 8: put his head down, work, do whatever we asked of him,

498
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Speaker 8: and then come out with some massive plays throughout the year.

499
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Speaker 8: You know, you look at the Georgia game, the strips

500
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Speaker 8: Act that changed the whole game absolutely, and so just

501
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Speaker 8: you know, very fortunate be teammates with those guys, and

502
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Speaker 8: glad to be here with r J.

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Speaker 6: Jack.

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Speaker 2: Good luck to resolutely.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I went, I spet your interception the other day

507
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Speaker 2: in practice. Take us to the play and how you

508
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Speaker 2: got it.

509
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a little boot or play action play,

510
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Speaker 8: so you know, took the play action, turn around radar,

511
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Speaker 8: find the receiver, find the crosser, and get your eyes

512
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 8: back to quarterback and ball was there. And so yeah,

513
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 8: just you know, doing the right things and and you

514
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Speaker 8: be in the right position.

515
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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's big for you, because I'm sure being

516
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Speaker 2: getting coverage is one of your big goals this year.

517
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Speaker 8: Write to check off for gotta check that off for sure.

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Speaker 2: Jack, Good stuff man, goodluck friend, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: All right, now we're joined by Argon wide receiver test

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Speaker 2: Johnson Tests Hawaii.

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm doing good, Blessed. Yeah.

532
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Speaker 2: So you were three years of Troy before you went

533
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Speaker 2: to Oregon for a couple of years. I think I

534
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Speaker 2: probably know the reason, but I'll ask anyway, what were

535
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Speaker 2: some of the reasons that you decide to make that

536
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Speaker 2: transfer go to Oregon? And did to kind of meet

537
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Speaker 2: all of your expectations?

538
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Speaker 5: And when I first started at TOY, I was I

539
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 5: wasn't good at first, but the two years, like after

540
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Speaker 5: my first year to the next two years, I started

541
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Speaker 5: to progress and figure out like I okay, like I'm

542
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 5: good at football, Like I'm really good at football, And

543
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 5: the game was just kind of easy for me in

544
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 5: the Sun Belt. And not just saying that as a

545
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 5: been a cocky dude. I'm just saying like the coaches

546
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 5: knew in the and the fans absolutely knew, and they

547
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Speaker 5: knew like they was pushing me like, hey, like you

548
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 5: have to go somewhere else, like you're you're a different cat.

549
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 5: You gotta go somewhere else. And I hit the portal

550
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Speaker 5: and jokingly. Uh, I asked both. No, I asked both seriously, like, hey,

551
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Speaker 5: you think or goanna take me? Him jokingly saying no,

552
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 5: probably not. Yeah, just messing with me because he know

553
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Speaker 5: Organ is my dream school, Like no, like since the

554
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Speaker 5: little kid, Oh really yes, since I was since I

555
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 5: could remember football, Organ was the the school I wanted

556
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Speaker 5: to go to, no matter what come out of high school,

557
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 5: that's school I wanted to go to. And when he

558
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Speaker 5: said that, it kind of crushed me. I was like, Okay,

559
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to Memphis or Louisville or something like that. Houston.

560
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Speaker 5: And he come home from with Izzy, his wife, leaving Birmingham.

561
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Speaker 5: I see him walking in with a bag, but I

562
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Speaker 5: didn't know what it is. And I get a call

563
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Speaker 5: from a Cali area code and I've never in my

564
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Speaker 5: life got a Cali area code call my phone and

565
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 5: its coach Junior Adams. He called me and said, Hey,

566
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Speaker 5: this is coach Adams from University of Organ. And I'm like,

567
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Speaker 5: right where you sitting right now? I'm looking at my

568
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Speaker 5: mom like, hey, it's an Organ coach on the phone,

569
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Speaker 5: Like he talking to me right now. She was like, well,

570
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 5: put it up to you as soon as I put

571
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Speaker 5: the phone back to my ear, I was like, hey, coach,

572
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Speaker 5: I'm committed. Like there's nothing else you can say to me.

573
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Speaker 5: I was committed out of everything. Else was out the window.

574
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Speaker 5: But yeah, it was one of those things. I didn't

575
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Speaker 5: know Bo was coming back at the time until they

576
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Speaker 5: came out with the video.

577
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Speaker 2: Oh interesting.

578
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Speaker 5: So when they came out with the video, I was like,

579
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Speaker 5: oh wow, Yeah, now that we finished Oock the world

580
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 5: for real, Like it's now it's gonna be a different

581
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 5: type of story, a different type of lifetime, and like

582
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Speaker 5: it's a chance for me to go get better somewhere

583
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Speaker 5: else and take my game to another level.

584
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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a great story. So for the fans

585
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Speaker 2: that might not know, tell me about your relationship with

586
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Speaker 2: with Bo Nicks, which is more than just about football.

587
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he bow Nicks is my brother literally, so I

588
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 5: have I have three brother four brothers. I have four brothers,

589
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Speaker 5: and he's the oldest out of all of them. And

590
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Speaker 5: I got adopted by the Knicks family sophomore year in

591
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Speaker 5: high school, so I was like fifteen sixteen. One of

592
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Speaker 5: those got adopted, and I was terrified of him early

593
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Speaker 5: because he the way he moved the way he he

594
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 5: was so intense, like he prepared, like he was already

595
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Speaker 5: in college. But I watched it from a distance, like

596
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Speaker 5: I was like walking in his footstep from a distance.

597
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Speaker 5: I was on a receiver of quarterback. And when he

598
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Speaker 5: used to say, Hey, let's go to the field, let's

599
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 5: go throw, I never knew why, Like early, I never knew,

600
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Speaker 5: like why you wanted to be on the field six

601
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Speaker 5: o'clock at night, seven o'clock just to throw a football.

602
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Speaker 5: Because my hand's hurting obviously from catching the ball all night,

603
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Speaker 5: and my gloves is ripping.

604
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he ripping the football in high school.

605
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Speaker 5: And if you knew me, like I couldn't catch a

606
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 5: lick before that time. And I'm like, okay, my hands

607
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 5: start getting better. My first game I ever played in

608
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 5: high schools against George Pickens, who high school, I had

609
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Speaker 5: a really good game.

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Speaker 2: He's a freak show too.

611
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Speaker 5: I've seen him. I've seen him in person so many

612
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 5: times and were really close with each other. So it's

613
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Speaker 5: one of those things that you you don't take for granted.

614
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 5: You learned from You just happy you've been through it

615
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 5: at a young age because you learned from those things

616
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Speaker 5: and still carrying with you today.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, I think that's terrific. All right, So, look,

618
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Speaker 2: no one's been able to cover you the last two days.

619
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Speaker 2: I've been in every practice, I've watched pretty much every

620
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Speaker 2: rep of their live We're on tape, and no one's

621
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Speaker 2: covering you. Why do you think you've been able to

622
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Speaker 2: have the success that you've had in some of these

623
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Speaker 2: one on ones and in the team portions over the

624
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Speaker 2: course of the first couple of days of practice.

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Speaker 5: I'm just being poised, uh, just going out there and

626
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 5: just being able to be myself, not thinking I'm bigger

627
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Speaker 5: than what I am, being able to know what the

628
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 5: defense is gonna do, been able to know when like

629
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: it's it's time to get open and show people like

630
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 5: you can separate, like be the X Factor. Obviously, I

631
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 5: get help from guys like Tank Dale and Cooper Cup

632
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Speaker 5: and Tyler Lockett. Well not I really didn't talk to

633
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 5: Tyler like it, but I watched his film from like YouTube.

634
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 5: But Cooper Cup is one of the guys that actually

635
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 5: know and talk to me, and also Tank Dale, So

636
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 5: those guys definitely helped me because Tank definitely say like, hey,

637
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 5: you can do this release next time, or you can

638
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 5: just be able to show them this right here, like

639
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 5: you got to be able to separate. So I definitely

640
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 5: took that with great pride and honor and blessed that

641
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 5: he gave me those ideas because obviously when he was

642
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 5: here he shut the whole singing bow down.

643
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Speaker 2: Dude. It's funny. I was going to ask you about

644
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Speaker 2: Tank del because I was here two years ago when

645
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: he was doing what you're doing now, and he's dominating.

646
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Speaker 2: And you guys similar size too, right, He's not the

647
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: big like his big whole thing coming in. Oh, he

648
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: doesn't weigh and off, he's gonna struggle. He's gonna have problems.

649
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 5: Yea.

650
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Speaker 2: So how do you know Tank? How are you guys

651
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: got to know each other and just walk the similarities

652
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: in your games? How was that that advice kind of

653
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: helped you?

654
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 5: Okay? So when I was at Troy, actually he was

655
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 5: at Indy when I first got there, because that was

656
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 5: like COVID year and stuff like that. He was at

657
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 5: India like I think it was Juco and he transferred

658
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 5: to Alabama and m So I kept up with him

659
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 5: like through the net because I knew it was another

660
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 5: guy out there just like me. Somehow someway because before

661
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 5: then I didn't I used to watch people like Stefan Diggs,

662
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 5: but he was a bigger guy. So I was like,

663
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 5: I need to find a guy that's I'm like, I

664
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 5: started watching Tyrek Kill stuff like that, but I was like,

665
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 5: he's really fast. I'm fast too, but I'm like, I

666
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 5: need something different and yeah big, like yeah, And I

667
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 5: watched tank Dale, Alabama and them, and then he left

668
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 5: to Houston and this one he started to pop on

669
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 5: the scene, and I was like, I've been watching this

670
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 5: guy like since I could remember when I got to

671
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 5: Troy and everybody was just getting turned on to him,

672
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 5: and I'm like, how do you guys miss a kid

673
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 5: like this? Like he's he's one of those guys that

674
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 5: can change a game. And I was watching him and

675
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 5: when he went to Houston and we was moving moving similar,

676
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 5: and I got the chance to go to Oregon, I

677
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 5: started modeling his game and I was like, Okay, he

678
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 5: can do that. I can definitely do that too. Like

679
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 5: we're the same guy, and we move the same you

680
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 5: do really with the same size. The speed is quite different,

681
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 5: for sure, but we're very smart similar don't take that

682
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 5: many hits like we get open, we create separation because

683
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 5: for our size frame, you that's what you have to have.

684
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 5: So being able to take a fire yard game to

685
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 5: a six yard touchdown is one of those things a

686
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 5: team to be like, Okay, well we get we need

687
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 5: this guy. So yeah, I just watching Tank and him

688
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: calling my phone or something like that and like hey,

689
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 5: how you doing and devastating what happened to him in

690
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 5: this season is one of those things that is you

691
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 5: don't even know how it happens. You just like, ah,

692
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: praying for him and when I know when he gets

693
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 5: back into the when he get healthy, it's gonna be

694
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 5: a long season for a lot of dvs when you

695
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 5: get back.

696
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: So for sure, so I'm sure you've heard your whole life.

697
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 5: He's too small.

698
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: It's five nine, one fifty six that you's the way

699
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: to that house. He's not going to survive the NFL.

700
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 2: It's not going to stay healthy. So when you get

701
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: those questions, even I'm sure the NFL evaluates and the

702
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: scouty that's the same thing, right, So when they ask

703
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: you that, what are you telling about how you at

704
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: five nine, one hundred and fifty six pounds succeed and

705
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: just survive in the National Football League. What do you

706
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: tell me?

707
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 5: Let me just tell you this, like this, this whole backstory,

708
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 5: just to give you a picture. Can I tell you

709
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 5: when they what they said? When I entered high school

710
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 5: for the very first time true freshmen, I was eighty

711
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 5: two pounds. I was a premature kid. Oh wow, it

712
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 5: was crazy. I was eighty two pounds premature. I was

713
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 5: premature baby. So the highest I ever got in high

714
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 5: school was one thirty. Went to college at one thirty five.

715
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 5: Just game five pounds before I left Troy, I was

716
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 5: won forty five. It was like the d one effect

717
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 5: for me. I just adapted to the level of play.

718
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 5: Got to Organ at one forty, lost five pounds through

719
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 5: that process, and then I got all the way up

720
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 5: to I got to one sixty twice Organ and it

721
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 5: was against Idaho and Portland State the first game. Never

722
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: got back up to one sixty after that.

723
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: Well, it's hard once the season starts in your year.

724
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 5: I'm running so much and it takes me when I

725
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 5: see guys eat candy and can game three pounds and

726
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: I got my own personal chef and nutritions.

727
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: Oh one of those guys you can eat as much

728
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: as you want to, just can't.

729
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 5: Gain any metabolism just so fast. But I know team

730
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 5: was going to ask me that, and I'll be like,

731
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 5: you're your biggest guy, Like your biggest receiver has a

732
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 5: pretty high percentage of getting hurt way before I do.

733
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 5: God bless me with a sleather frame that plays the

734
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: game totally different from your bigger guys. I know you

735
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 5: want to be physical, get down to dirty, and that's great,

736
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 5: that's great, but don't just think once that a little

737
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 5: guy can't get in there and block of the end.

738
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 5: And I know for a fact a lot of people

739
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: going to hear this and be like he can't. Well,

740
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 5: turn on the tape, Like you can turn on the

741
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 5: tape and see it because it shocks big guys and

742
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 5: be like, oh, I think he was gonna do that. Yeah,

743
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: God just blessed me with a slithered frame that can

744
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: change the game. Like you go watch the tape of

745
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 5: me and you see what I do in the game.

746
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 5: In the game, it literally you can see the momentum

747
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 5: shift through the screen. It's one of those things like

748
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 5: it's electrifying when you turn it on. It's like when

749
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 5: back in the day when the kids used to watch

750
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 5: Danthon Thomas in Table on Austin. Sure, it's like that

751
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 5: when you turn it on, you be like, oh wow,

752
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 5: this guy is good. So it's one of those things

753
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 5: I definitely take. The heart when they ask.

754
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: Me is yeah, So I'm going to ask you this,

755
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: how do you turn it into an advantage? Because I

756
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: got to imagine and I saw you wind up a

757
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: few times against the bigger Florida State corner right, who's

758
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: like six to two as a ray right, and he's

759
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: trying to press you, and you're a little bit lowd

760
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 2: of the ground than he is, maybe a little bit

761
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: quicker side to side. So how do you then, especially

762
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: I'll specifically talk about when a bigger guy's trying to

763
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: press you, how do you use your stature as an

764
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: advantage to beat them?

765
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 5: Well, my patients like, I'm very very patient when it

766
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 5: comes to guys like that because if you got to

767
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 5: think alone, dB, they want to get hands on. They

768
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 5: definitely want to get hands on. Stop you before you

769
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 5: even get going. But I always say it's a game

770
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 5: of chess or spades if you call it. They show

771
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 5: me their hands first, not literally their hands, but they

772
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 5: show me what they're gonna do first. If you walk

773
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: up to the line and you are your toes, it's

774
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 5: a pretty hoigh percentag. You're finna try to jump jammy

775
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: or you want to get hands on. If you count

776
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 5: on your heels, you want to get out of there,

777
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 5: you want to cover ground, you want to get be deep.

778
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 5: But if you just flat footed and you just hands down,

779
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: you're just staring at me. Your hips are lot like

780
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 5: I know exactly what you're finna do every time I

781
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: walk up to the line, and I'm aware of it

782
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 5: before you even is. You don't know what I'm finna do.

783
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: So and it's a little bit harder for dvs because

784
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 5: they got to digress the progress, you know what I'm saying.

785
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: So and they gotta go backwards. Yeah, they gotta go

786
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 5: backwards and I'm going forward. And it's one of those

787
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 5: things that you look at and you watch film on

788
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 5: and you study these guys. Like when I'm watching Cooper

789
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 5: Cup and he going against the corner, You're like, okay,

790
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 5: like how did he get open? What did this DV

791
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 5: do to try to even cover it? And they don't

792
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 5: cover I'm like, okay, I see exactly what he saw

793
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: and I'm honestly, I didn't know a lot of these

794
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 5: things until I got the organ. Thank god for Junior

795
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 5: Adams and the opportunity he gave me, because when I

796
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 5: first got the organ, he literally looked at me in

797
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 5: my face and said, like, hey, you're gonna have to

798
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: run some routes. You're gonna have to blow You're gonna

799
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 5: have to know pre snut reeze is one of those

800
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 5: things that you're gonna have to do or you're gonna

801
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 5: continue to be the guy that you is today. You

802
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 5: want to take your game to another level. And because

803
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 5: look at you, he said, look at you, not the veggas,

804
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 5: but you're gonna take your game to another level. And

805
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 5: when he told me that, I kid you not. It

806
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: was one of those things I said, Okay, I'm going

807
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 5: to attack this full head of steam and be the

808
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 5: best I can be at my flaws that people think

809
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 5: I have.

810
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, and watching you run your routes, I do

811
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: see some Cooper cupping there. To be honest with you,

812
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: like you go up your stem, you have a little

813
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: shoulder shake, you turn the corner back around, you end

814
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: up going the other way. How did you learn some

815
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: of those subtleties in the route running. Was it from

816
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: these your mentors, wasn't to your point, from your receivers

817
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: coach at Orgon, where'd you learn some of the nuances

818
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: where it's not just your speaking the open but it's

819
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: some of the little.

820
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 5: Things honestly, like you said, Like I said, my coach

821
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 5: Junior Adams and Cooper Cup, both of them together. Because

822
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: my coach Junior Adams, he coached Cooper Cup. He put

823
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: me in point of contact and you can see like

824
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 5: we're in a group message together meet him. And I'm

825
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 5: in the middle of the mall saying what if I

826
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: do this release here? And Cooper sent back, Now, I

827
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: don't like that one. You're a different guy than what

828
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 5: I am. Try to try what works for you. And

829
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 5: he's in his backyard up under his goal on the

830
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 5: turf field, like, hey, do this one right here, and

831
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 5: I'm in the mall trying to get a pedicure. I'm like, okay,

832
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 5: I got to get into the hallway and try this

833
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 5: real quick. And I'm getting filmed from it and just

834
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 5: being able to like send feedback. And he was just

835
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: hands on with me, both of them. They were just

836
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 5: hands on and my coach Junior Adams and they're like, wow,

837
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 5: I never knew that either. Like we're all learning as

838
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 5: a group, and that that right there just changed my

839
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 5: game far as decision making on the option route being

840
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 5: able to cut the shoulder. HOWO he told me one

841
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 5: thing like how your spine move and like how your

842
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 5: low center of gravity can get you open in so

843
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 5: many ways, And I never knew that, like spine movement

844
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 5: and stuff like that. It's so many things I didn't know.

845
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: I didn't know that I that he coached me in

846
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 5: this past offseason that I've added to my game, and

847
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: it was like, Okay, let me add this to my

848
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 5: game in my bag and see what happens. And I

849
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: added in this and it's hard for defenders to keep

850
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 5: up with it because they don't know what are you

851
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 5: finna do?

852
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 2: So talking to here is pretty clear your very detail

853
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: oriented person and you do a lot of preparation for this.

854
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: So I'm curious what were some of the things on

855
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: your checklist that you wanted to accomplish here to either

856
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: show NFL scouts on the field or tell them in

857
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 2: the meetings you're gonna have with them. What were your

858
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 2: goals this week? To maybe a misconception you think people

859
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: might have about you or your game that you want

860
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: to get across, either with your play or in the

861
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: meeting rooms this weekend.

862
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 5: Mobile, they're fearless. I wanted to make sure that every

863
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 5: scout here know that I'm fearless and everybody here is

864
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 5: gonna be feared of me and what I'm gonna run

865
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 5: on the field. So it's one of those things that

866
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 5: I want to show them. I'm a leader. I want

867
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 5: to show that I'm going to communicate. I'm be that

868
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 5: energizer bunny for you. So I'm gonna be one of

869
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: those guys to be like, all right, hey, this is

870
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 5: what we're finna do. Let's break this huddle of urgency

871
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 5: and let the defensive line feel I'm talking to the

872
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 5: old line. I'm the one that's gonna be out there

873
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 5: calling the huddle, yelling at the guys. And I know

874
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks supposed to say huddle or the center, but

875
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 5: they tend to be so tired that they can't really

876
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 5: say it a lot as they wanted to. So I'm

877
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: the guy that going to be like, hey, huddle, Like,

878
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 5: let's get in this whole breaking with urgency. Let him,

879
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 5: fill you up top and let's break and let's have

880
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 5: a great player. And that gives everybody confidence. It's not

881
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 5: just me knowing the players, like everybody just being able

882
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 5: to feed off my energy. So it's one of those

883
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 5: things that I've knew coming in. I was like, hey,

884
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 5: these scouts got to be able to set you apart

885
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 5: from a lot of guys, and how do you separate

886
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 5: yourself and whether that's me waking up at five am

887
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 5: here just like I would do it organ just to

888
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 5: get a look at the playbook. So I'm up before

889
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 5: everybody here. It's one of those things that I take

890
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: with pride for sure.

891
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: This is awesome, man, It's been great gat to know you.

892
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: This has been great, great answers, and it was good.

893
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: Best to luck dude. A lot of skill and I

894
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: can't wait to see you do what Tank has done

895
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: in the pros. Because you're right, you guys are very similar.

896
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 2: Thanks so much of the.

897
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 6: Time, man, Thank you very much.

898
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: All right, we're joined by Miami tight End Elijah or

899
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: Royal Elijah.

900
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 6: How are you man?

901
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: I'm doing great? So how do you think practice is

902
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: going for you? The first couple of days.

903
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 6: This week, it's gone.

904
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 9: Well, I've been able to showcase, you know, just some

905
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 9: of the things I can do on the field. You know,

906
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 9: I've been having fun getting better and it's great to

907
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 9: be out here with you know, all the talented guys.

908
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: It's a fun experience.

909
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: So if a fan had not watched your game, how

910
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: would you describe it to them?

911
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 6: As a tight end dynamic? I can do it all.

912
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 9: I feel like, you know, as a pass catcher really

913
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 9: just like a big receiver out there in the run game.

914
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 9: You know, I'm able to dominate as well. You know,

915
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 9: I'm not scared to throw my head around.

916
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: Is that something that you want to show evaluators this

917
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: week that in the run game you are willing to

918
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: kind of stick your shoulder in there and then do

919
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: some damage.

920
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 5: Of course. Yeah.

921
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 9: My blocking, my physicality, that's something that I take pride in.

922
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 5: You know.

923
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 9: I feel like some people see my route running and

924
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 9: think like, oh, he's just a big receiver. I want

925
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 9: to be able to emphasize that, you know, I'm a

926
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 9: complete tight end.

927
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I watched it on tape and the effort

928
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: on the blocking is there. It's funny, but I had

929
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: not looked at your measurements when I watched you and

930
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: the way you moved, I thought you would come here

931
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: and to be like, ah, he's you know one of

932
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: these two hundred and thirty two pounds tight ends just

933
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: because you moved so well, then nicely you came into

934
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 2: two fifty. I'm like, whoa, this is real two way

935
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: tight end potential. Right, yes, sir, So talk about your blocking.

936
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: A lot of people think it's just willingness and it's

937
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: strength and toughness, but there's technique involved in that too, right,

938
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: so one of the.

939
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 9: Things I mean, yeah, go ahead, so I have you know,

940
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 9: I feel like I have a couple of things I

941
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 9: need to fix up as far as you know, just

942
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 9: footwork and hand placement. But you know, at least at

943
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 9: the college level, you know effort, Trump's a lot of that.

944
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 9: So you know, as long as you're in there you're

945
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 9: willing to block, you know, things are gonna work out.

946
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: But it's not quite like that in the NFL. Right,

947
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: you got to make sure you have that well.

948
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 6: Of course, it's definitely room for improvement.

949
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about you as a receiver,

950
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: because I agree dynamic is a good way to put it.

951
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of possession tight ends

952
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: out there. They're on like, you know, little option routes,

953
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: five six yard catches, you know, play action flat that

954
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. You're used in downfield routes. You're running

955
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: up seams, you're running flag routes. Talk about your development

956
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: as a wide receiver in terms of the art of

957
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: playing the position and kind of how's that has improved

958
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: over your time in Miami.

959
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 9: I would say, really, you know, just my my speed

960
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 9: and being able to play fast. You know, when I

961
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 9: first got to college, you know, it's a big adjustment,

962
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 9: but throughout the years I've been able to, you know,

963
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 9: really stick my head in the playbook, kind of learn

964
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 9: defenses a little bit better. And yeah, it's been it's

965
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 9: been an easy transition for me, just because you know,

966
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 9: I can play smooth, I can play fast, play free,

967
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 9: and you know, you just you look a lot faster

968
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 9: when you're playing smooth when you know what you're doing.

969
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: Smooth is slow, but smooth as fast, right, exactly exactly

970
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. So I did the numbers here. In

971
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: your first three years of Miami, you combined for eleven

972
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: catches one hundred and sixty three yards in a touchdown

973
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: your last year at Miami more than all those three

974
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: years combined, thirty five catches, five hundred and ninety yards,

975
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: seven touchdowns. Why the pop? What clicked for you in

976
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: that fund year that allowed you to be just so

977
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: darn productive us?

978
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 5: Really?

979
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 9: Uh, you know, I've had an unfortunate, unfortunate series of

980
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 9: injuries throughout my career, but you know it, I feel

981
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 9: like it helped me in the long run.

982
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 6: You know, it made me the player who I am today.

983
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 9: When I got hurt, you know, I was really able

984
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 9: to take a step back and really you know, learn

985
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 9: the ins and outs of the offense as well as

986
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 9: you know, just getting different hints from the defense.

987
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 6: So you know, I came back with my head on fire.

988
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 9: And yeah, I've been able to play smooth, play fast,

989
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 9: and you know there's something that you know, I always

990
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 9: knew I could do. I just had to put everything together.

991
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 9: And you know, we had a great year this year.

992
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 9: We had a lot of good people coming back as

993
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 9: well as you know, we had a new quarterback.

994
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 6: You know, everything just came together.

995
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: I'm want to talk to you about the quarterback in

996
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: a second. Have you got questions from from some of

997
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: the from the teams in the meetings about your injuries

998
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: and whether or not you're back one hundred percent and

999
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: kind of good to go.

1000
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel like, you know, that might be team's

1001
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 9: biggest concerns right now. A lot of them asked me

1002
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 9: about my injury history. But you know, I feel great.

1003
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 9: This is the best I felt. You know, I'm flying

1004
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 9: around having fun, and you know, I really understand how

1005
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 9: to take care of my body right now. I treat

1006
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 9: my body and my mind as you know, as a professional,

1007
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 9: as I should.

1008
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: If you don't mind sharing, because a lot of times

1009
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: the colleges don't release all of the injury details. What

1010
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: were your injuries that that kind of knocked you out

1011
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: the last couple of years?

1012
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 9: So I had an ACM, I had some hamstring issues

1013
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 9: in an ankle, spring.

1014
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: Like stuff for tight ends are tough. But yeah, it's

1015
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: it's good. You're finally healthy, man, and it shows out

1016
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: in the field. You're doing great. Yes, you mentioned cam Ward.

1017
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: How did he help impact your game? And what makes

1018
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: him a special quarterback that that could be worthy of

1019
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: the top three top five pick this year.

1020
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 9: Man, he's got it all, you know, he's got the

1021
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 9: whole package. First of all. You know, he's a great person,

1022
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 9: great leader. He brought us all together from day one.

1023
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 9: He came in and he said, you know, we have

1024
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 9: a go to achieve and you know I'm gonna hold

1025
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 9: us to that standard, hold everybody accountable. And that's what

1026
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 9: he did. I feel like, you know, on.

1027
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 6: The field, just he's a very smart player.

1028
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 9: You know, you know, people talk about his arm talent

1029
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 9: and his pocket presence, but I would say, you know,

1030
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 9: his his IQ and you know he's something different. Just

1031
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 9: the freedom he had to you know, check what he

1032
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 9: wanted to.

1033
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: Oh did he row so he could do stuff with

1034
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: the line, yes.

1035
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 9: Sir, that they gave him a freedom to do that

1036
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 9: this year. So he checked us out of a lot

1037
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 9: of you know, bad plays, and he came out and

1038
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 9: you know he did his thing.

1039
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 5: That what he's supposed to do.

1040
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: The one thing that jumped out to me watching him,

1041
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: the dude never looks stressed. He could have rushers around

1042
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: him in the pocket, guys running at him even when

1043
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 2: he's scrambling like he's going fast, but it doesn't look

1044
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: like he's running full. He's just gliding everywhere. What is

1045
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 2: it about whoops? What is it about his demeanor that

1046
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: that kind of just keeps the whole team calm when

1047
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: he just never seems like he's under any pressure.

1048
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 9: Like you said, man smooth as fast. You know, he's

1049
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 9: always you know poised. He never really lets any type

1050
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 9: of situation define him or you know, affect his mentality.

1051
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 9: You know he's gonna go in. I know you saw

1052
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 9: the first game when we played Florida. He threw that

1053
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 9: first pick and he jogged off the field like he

1054
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 9: didn't care does a boss drive. He came out, you know,

1055
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 9: slaying it again. So you know that's something that I

1056
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 9: admire about him. I feel like that's something that you know,

1057
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 9: the rest of the team picked up on this year.

1058
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's absolutely true. Right, you got one

1059
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: more day of practice here. What are some of the

1060
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 2: things that that you're still trying to achieve and show

1061
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: evaluators out there on the field.

1062
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 9: I want to continue to establish my presence in the

1063
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 9: run game as well as well as continuing to you know,

1064
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 9: showcase what I can do in the past game. I know,

1065
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 9: as far as team reps and seven on seven, you know,

1066
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 9: I've been doing a pretty good job getting open, but

1067
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 9: you know, I want to be able to get the

1068
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 9: ball turned down field. We also got red zone coming

1069
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 9: in today.

1070
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: So okay, that'll be exciting.

1071
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 9: I like to call that the tight end zone. So

1072
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 9: it is the tight end zone, yes, sir. So let's

1073
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 9: we got to go in there and you know, have

1074
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 9: some fun.

1075
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: And you had seven touchdowns. You did a good job

1076
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: in the red zone this year. For for Miami? What

1077
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: has it been like being coached by Mike Kafka, he's

1078
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: the Giants offensive coordinator.

1079
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 6: It's really good. Uh, it's fun.

1080
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 9: You know, I'm really being able to open my eyes

1081
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 9: and see like what it's like being coached at the

1082
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 9: next level. But yeah, he's kind of making it simple

1083
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 9: for us. Not it's not anything too crazy, but I'm

1084
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 9: enjoying it during the whole process.

1085
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: I know it's a simplified version. But what is it

1086
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: has been like trying to learn an NFL offense in

1087
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: the span of like seventy two hours.

1088
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 6: Man, it's just a lot. It's stressful.

1089
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 9: But you know, as long as you're into your playbook,

1090
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 9: you know you're you're dialed into the stuff you want

1091
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 9: to learn. You know, it's you know you're capable of

1092
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 9: doing it.

1093
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna ask you about a couple more

1094
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: of your teammates if you don't mind. Zevie Rostreppo, your

1095
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: slot receiver here. Not the biggest guy, not the fastest guy,

1096
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: yet he's always open. How does he do it?

1097
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 9: Man, I'm still trying to figure that out myself. I've

1098
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 9: been taking notes for him. But you know, he's a

1099
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 9: guy who's a very smart player. Like I said, smooth

1100
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 9: as fast, So you know, he's one of those guys

1101
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 9: that the game moves very slow for him. So he's

1102
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 9: able to, you know, really take advantage of you know,

1103
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 9: different leverages, and you know he knows how to get open.

1104
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he absolutely does. Looking I want to ask you

1105
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: about I had not watched him before I got here,

1106
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: and I've been extremely impressed with him, especially in the

1107
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 2: one on ones and some of the team stuff. Jialwen Rivers,

1108
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: your offensive lineman. He's been fantastic. Talk about him as

1109
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 2: a player and a guy, and and why team should

1110
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: be looking to draft him.

1111
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 9: First of all, he's a great person, great leader. He

1112
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 9: kind of has an old so I call him old

1113
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 9: man Rivers just because you know, like that he's only

1114
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 9: a year older than me. But you know, since I

1115
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 9: came into college. You know, he's always had that mindset

1116
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 9: of a pro. You know, he treats himself as a professional.

1117
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 9: He does everything right, and he's just he's a very

1118
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 9: smart guy. He's a very just good person overall. You know,

1119
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 9: I feel like, you know, the the reps he's been

1120
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 9: getting this week, the way he's able to dominate, you know,

1121
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 9: that's he He deserves all of that. I know he

1122
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 9: missed a few games because of injuries this year, but

1123
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 9: before this he started. I'm pretty sure he started off

1124
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 9: four years. So you know, he's a guy with a

1125
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 9: lot of experience. He knows what he's doing.

1126
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: And then finally Damian Martinez, the big running back, he's

1127
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: It's funny. I was talking to Damien two days ago

1128
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, you're two hundred and twenty six

1129
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 2: pounds back. You're a big back, and it's only rushing

1130
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: in like fourteen fifteen times a game. We ever like

1131
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: given to me twenty five times a game. Let me

1132
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: just pound you know the you know what out of

1133
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: these guys, you know, i'd be have other good backs

1134
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: for sharing the load. What is about Damien that that

1135
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: that makes him special?

1136
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 11: Man?

1137
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 9: I admire him. You know as a running back, I

1138
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 9: know that used to get in the ball a lot.

1139
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 9: I mean he did get the ball a lot, but

1140
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 9: you know, we we kind of had to spread the wealth.

1141
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 6: And you know, he's a very selfless player.

1142
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 9: You know, I feel like we had a lot of

1143
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 9: guys on this offense who, you know, really truly put

1144
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 9: the team first this year and nobody ever complained about

1145
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 9: not getting the bar or any of that. And you know,

1146
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 9: when he was out there, he took advantage of what

1147
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 9: he was supposed to do. He had a thousand yards

1148
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 9: this year. I was very proud of him for that.

1149
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: Over six yards of carrier too, man, and he really

1150
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: runs with pop like he is twenty.

1151
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 6: Six, right, Yeah, yeah, he uses all of it.

1152
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 9: And you know it's just crazy being able to black form,

1153
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 9: being able to watch what he's able to do. It'd

1154
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 9: be some plays, you know, I think it plays about

1155
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 9: to be over. He just breaks the tackle, keeps running

1156
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 9: for like thirty forty more yards. It is crazy, But

1157
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 9: you know, it's been really fun playing with him. You know,

1158
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 9: that's a Texas guy as well. Uh So we got there.

1159
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 6: We have fun.

1160
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 2: And here's the biggest game in the Pop Tops Bowl

1161
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: for for you guys to kind of end your season.

1162
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: Did you try any of that giant pop tart that

1163
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: came out of the toaster at the end of that game? Nah?

1164
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 6: We lost, so I couldn't do.

1165
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: I wasn't trump if they spread the wealth of that

1166
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: thing or not. Elijah, good stuff, man. I appreciate the time.

1167
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 5: Man.

1168
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: Good luck this week. It's been a lot of fun

1169
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: watching you.

1170
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1171
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: All right, We'll joined by Chamare Stewart Chamorrow. How do

1172
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: you think practice the first few days have gone.

1173
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 5: I feel like I did all right for first two practices.

1174
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: All right, you say, all right, you don't seem super enthusiastic.

1175
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: So what are some things? He looked back. You're like,

1176
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: all right, I would wish I could have done or

1177
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna work on it and try to do a B

1178
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 2: or C better.

1179
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 6: I wish I could. I don't know.

1180
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes my hand be my hand placement.

1181
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 12: Be getting me into bad positions, and I wish I

1182
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 12: could take those back at least hit my mark sometimes

1183
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 12: so that one those would really be irking me.

1184
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 5: At the end of the day.

1185
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: Is that in the team stuffer in the one on ones,

1186
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 2: one on ones, most mainly one on ones So if

1187
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: a GM asked you, what's your bread and butter as

1188
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: a pass rusher that you kind of rely on, that's

1189
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: the center of your game that you kind of work

1190
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: your counters off of. What would be you think that

1191
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: bread and butter.

1192
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 12: I'll say a bull rush, and I could work my

1193
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 12: staff series off of it, my long alarm series.

1194
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 5: There's a lot they're going to do. A power that opened.

1195
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 5: Power opens a lot of doors for me.

1196
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: As you head into the lab. Now you leave here,

1197
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: when you're done with the senior ball, you go you

1198
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: try to get better, get ready for the NFL. What

1199
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: are some of the things technique wise? They just try

1200
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: to find, tune and work on.

1201
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 5: I mean my ben, my ben.

1202
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 12: Obviously, I always need to get stronger because at the

1203
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 12: end of the day, I'm about to be going against

1204
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 12: thirty year old men with a whole five kids at

1205
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 12: home wait for them.

1206
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: So, oh, mine's a lot.

1207
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, some people out there like that. So I definitely

1208
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 12: gotta get get up in the weight room, get stronger,

1209
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 12: and definitely continue to build my craft.

1210
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: Now you are two eighty, you're you're like a bigger

1211
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: edge guy. There are edge guys here that are like

1212
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: two forty eight two fifty two. Right, So do you

1213
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: like playing hand in the dirt or do you like

1214
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: standing up? What do you what do you prefer?

1215
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 5: I'll do whatever. It just depends on what the coach

1216
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 5: DM to do.

1217
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: Do you have a preference though? Big third down? Like

1218
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: third and eight, fourth quarter? You gotta get into the quarterback.

1219
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: You want your hand in the dirt, you want to

1220
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 2: stand up?

1221
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 5: I will take my hand in the dirt.

1222
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 12: Why I feel like I get up fast to get off?

1223
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: What was the key to your defensive line in front

1224
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 2: being so effective this year?

1225
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 12: We were just all dogs that we all had to

1226
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 12: ben tell you that it's on us or it's on nobody.

1227
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: Tell me about some of your teammates at Texas A

1228
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: and M. You got a lot of dogs up there

1229
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 2: with you up front, like.

1230
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 5: Like Nick Schamar Albert.

1231
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 12: I'ma say the guys I started that started along the

1232
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 12: line with me.

1233
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 5: We're all dogs. Albert held it down.

1234
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 12: Inside five Watso held it down inside and Nick created

1235
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 12: it creating a FASTI.

1236
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 5: Us like we just had a we just goons. That

1237
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 5: was our thing.

1238
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: We talked about it on the field. How about when

1239
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: you meet these gms and coaches this week? What are

1240
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: you trying to get across them about you as a person.

1241
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 12: I'm extremely humble, god fearing, you know, and I put

1242
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 12: a team above everything else. And I'll continue to get

1243
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 12: better year and a year out there and never be

1244
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 12: a point where I just feel like I made it.

1245
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: That's a great answer, scham our best luck the rest

1246
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: of the week. Thank you. You love turf, You're good

1247
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: at it.

1248
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 10: So you start a turf biz.

1249
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 7: Business grows, your savings grow, become the most celebrated name

1250
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 7: in turfs.

1251
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 5: Are you ready for all that life brings?

1252
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: All right? We're joined by Notre Dame outside linebacker rj Oben,

1253
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 2: a member of the Giants family. Is dad Roman wants

1254
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 2: a giant, always a giant?

1255
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 9: Rj?

1256
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: How do you think the first couple of days is gone?

1257
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 6: Man?

1258
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 13: But I think this has been great, you know, just

1259
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 13: be out here at the competing amongst the best, and

1260
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 13: you know, chocus my talents in front of scouts, GMS,

1261
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 13: coaches and just taking everything in, you know, learning, learning

1262
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 13: from the best, and just happy to be here.

1263
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: How do you think it helped you having a dad

1264
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: that played in the league. You were around the Giants

1265
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: facility a lot growing up, like you get what this

1266
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: is about. How do you think that's kind of helped

1267
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: you get to today where you're being evaluated to make

1268
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: it into the NFL. Yeah.

1269
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 13: Man, well I think that you know, just the fact

1270
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 13: that you know, no stage is you know big enough

1271
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 13: or it is too big for me. You know, knowing

1272
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 13: that you know, going to you know games is enuf

1273
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 13: as a kid and being surrounded by you know, NFL

1274
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 13: talent and going to games and stuff like that. I

1275
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 13: would just say, you know, my emphasis on you know,

1276
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 13: my technique and my knowledge of the game is something

1277
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 13: that he's instilled in me even before I started playing football.

1278
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 13: I didnt start playing until seventh grade, but you know,

1279
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 13: since I was about five years old, you know, we're

1280
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 13: watching film together and you know, working through moves and

1281
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 13: you know, working hand stuff like that.

1282
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 6: So definitely appreciated that perspective from him.

1283
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 13: You know, obviously, you know, advice in terms of you know,

1284
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 13: interviews and stuff like that, and the minor details of

1285
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 13: you know, this process of what things look like.

1286
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 6: Obviously, you know, always getting to.

1287
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 13: Talk to him and having be a a resource of

1288
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 13: something that's great and valuable to me.

1289
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: Take me through some of your key moments or decisions

1290
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: throughout your college career that got you to Notre Dame

1291
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: and kind of got you to here today.

1292
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 13: Man, I would just say, obviously, you know, the decision

1293
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 13: coming Duke in the first place, you know, just deciding

1294
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 13: to go to university that was uh, you know, emphasis

1295
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 13: on you know, academics and athletics. That was something that

1296
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 13: I think going into transfor Porto that I think Notre

1297
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 13: Dame valued in terms of you know, kind of guys

1298
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 13: that they were looking for for sure. And you know,

1299
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 13: I just think, you know, my ability to you know,

1300
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 13: adapt to you know, different coaching staffs and different defenses,

1301
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 13: you know, just influence my decision to and confidence to

1302
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 13: you know, be able to hit the chen reporto and

1303
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 13: have comments that I could go to another university and

1304
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 13: perform at a high level and continue to improve myself.

1305
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 5: So I would say definitely those.

1306
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: Things, Yeah, I mean going to Duke to the other Dam,

1307
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear that academics where we're central

1308
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: for I only your dad would have it any other way.

1309
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: So when you got to know Dam, why do you

1310
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: think it worked out the way it did? And you

1311
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 2: were able to be so effective in that program.

1312
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 13: Yeah, man, I just think you know, the coaching staff

1313
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 13: you know, just pushed me to be the best person

1314
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 13: of myself and improve every day.

1315
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 6: You know, once you get you know, late in.

1316
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 13: Your college career, you know, it's harder to you know,

1317
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 13: increase and incremental incrementally every day. And I think, you know,

1318
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 13: the coaches pushed me to you know, be the best

1319
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 13: version of myself. And obviously my teammates, you know, just

1320
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 13: working over with those guys. You know, there's such a

1321
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 13: strong culture a Notre Dame. You know, even when God's

1322
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 13: gotten down, you know, guy's stepping up, you know, willing

1323
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 13: to compete, and just the fire I got from the

1324
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 13: young guys you know, throughout the season and you know,

1325
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 13: just learning and line and just and just loving to

1326
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 13: spend the monment with my brother. So I would just say,

1327
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 13: you know, definitely credit to my teammates and my coaches

1328
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 13: for that.

1329
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: Now you're an edge rusher, so you're trying to get

1330
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: after the quarterback. Your dad used to try to protect them.

1331
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: How is he tried to help you knowing how offensive

1332
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: linemen are trying to block guys like you, and how

1333
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: has that kind of helped you develop your game? And

1334
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 2: some of your technique and some of your pass rush plan.

1335
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, of course, man, I think he's you know, from

1336
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 13: a younger age. He you know, introduced the idea of

1337
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 13: you know, film sletter to me and you know, watching guys,

1338
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 13: you know, being able to watch Office A lineman and

1339
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 13: you know seeing weaknesses in them, you know, kind of

1340
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 13: showing me those you know, throughout the game and watching it.

1341
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 13: You know, you can watch an NFL game you can

1342
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 13: kind of tell me, like if a god gets it sack,

1343
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 13: you know what he did wrong with the other guy

1344
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 13: to write, you know, things like that nature. You know,

1345
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 13: he can watch my games and you know, watch my

1346
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 13: tape and kind of see, okay, you know you're doing

1347
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 13: this and this is what the Office ave lineman watch

1348
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 13: you to do. And if you kind of change this up,

1349
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 13: you know this can kind of help you in the future.

1350
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 13: So you know, just those kinds of conversations have helped.

1351
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: Me out and up the okayer all right for you

1352
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: heading into this game. One was on your checklist that

1353
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 2: you definitely want to show NFL scouts here, whether it's

1354
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: team one on ones, practice the game. What were the

1355
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 2: things that you definitely wanted to put on display for them.

1356
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 13: Yeah, I just want to think, you know, my technique,

1357
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 13: my ability to you know close them the ball, and

1358
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 13: my physicality is something that I wanted to show that,

1359
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 13: you know, it was among the best you know in

1360
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 13: the country. You know, especially you know s playing this

1361
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 13: lad into the season and you know, having a late

1362
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 13: season but still deciding to come and play in this

1363
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 13: game and you know, showing that to try to be

1364
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 13: the hardest working guy out here. I'll think something I

1365
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 13: can show the coucies and send a metic of you

1366
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 13: know the player I am.

1367
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: I haven't watched all your one on ones. I know

1368
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: your first one. I think you get against Emory Jones

1369
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: LS you tackle, nice, double swipe, move around the edge.

1370
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: How do you think those one on ones have gone

1371
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: so far?

1372
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 13: Yeah, I definitely wouldn't say I have won everyone, but

1373
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 13: you know I got to get to go against.

1374
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 5: A couple of LSU guys, which has been cool.

1375
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 13: You know, going against SEC guys, you know, even in

1376
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 13: the run stuff, you know, sending the edge of something,

1377
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 13: you know, showing those showing that the scouts and you know, uh,

1378
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 13: just playing that you know, physical battle and challenges is

1379
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 13: something that I was definitely very appreciative.

1380
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 5: Of and you know, looking forward to you know, continuing

1381
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 5: that throughout this week.

1382
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, finally you told about sending the edge, right, you

1383
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: waited a two fifth, So you're now one of these

1384
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty pounds four three defensive end types.

1385
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: How important is it for you to show these evaluators say, Look,

1386
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: I might be two fifty five. That doesn't mean I'm

1387
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: not going to be physical. I can't take on an

1388
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: offensive tackle, I can't take on a you know, a

1389
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: pulling tight end or something like that and set the

1390
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: edge of the running game.

1391
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, of course, man, obviously, you know looking at you know,

1392
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 13: some of the guys that are a little higher in

1393
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 13: the weight, you know, pushing three hundred pounds, you know,

1394
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 13: to show that if I get be able to show

1395
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 13: that I'm able to be just as physical, if not

1396
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 13: more than those guys, and you know, show and even

1397
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 13: showing my feet around the edge, and you know my

1398
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 13: technique and you know my soundness and my football intelligence.

1399
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 13: You know, throughout this week, I think that can show

1400
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 13: a huge message of the scouts.

1401
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 2: I got asked about one of your teamates, another member

1402
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: of the Giants family, Howard Cross. He is not in

1403
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: one of these two games. I know he's dealing with

1404
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of an injury stuff at the end

1405
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: of the year. Talk about him as a player and

1406
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: as a guy and as a teammate and why NFL

1407
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: team should draft him.

1408
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 13: Yeah, man, Howard's great man. I mean I've been going

1409
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 13: against him since my freshman year, you know, playing the

1410
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 13: freshman ball.

1411
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 5: Trying to block him was was you know, hell for me.

1412
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 6: But you know, just just definitely a tremendous privilege.

1413
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 13: You getting played with him on my last year, you know,

1414
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 13: knowing that we were in the same class, coming in

1415
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 13: together and leaving together was definitely an amazing you know,

1416
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 13: He's a guy that he's always hard working. You know,

1417
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 13: it's hard to be in this laying your career, especially

1418
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 13: stay in the university for six years to you know,

1419
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 13: continue to you know, get better every day and especially

1420
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 13: going through injury, being hurt. But he you know, he's

1421
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 13: definitely the anchor of our deepensive line. And uh, you

1422
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 13: know a guy that you know, he's able to go

1423
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 13: to work and puts balls in the wall whatever he

1424
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 13: has every day. So definitely respect Howard and his game

1425
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 13: and his technique and his quickness. But I think he can,

1426
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 13: you know, show that off heavily at the next level.

1427
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: Ah J We're proud of you, man. Good luck the

1428
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: rest of the way and hope you get drafted nice

1429
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: and Hi, my man, thank you appreciate that.

1430
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 5: All right.

1431
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: We're joined by Josia Stewart. J. Hi, how are the

1432
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: first couple of days of practice GON for.

1433
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 6: You been great?

1434
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 11: I mean I feel like the competition has been high.

1435
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 11: I mean the level of competition year is great. I

1436
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 11: mean going against the best of the best, you know,

1437
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 11: each and every rep and you can only get better.

1438
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 11: I mean you're not gonna win every rep for sure,

1439
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 11: but you can take from your get losses and they

1440
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 11: can take a lot from him. Going against the best

1441
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 11: has been a great week. But you're allowing these coaches would.

1442
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: Have been a couple of things that you want to

1443
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: kind of check off your checklist of things that you

1444
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 2: want to show coaches executive scouts out on the field

1445
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 2: this week at the Senior Bowl.

1446
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 11: I just thought of, like, I'm able to learn a

1447
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 11: new scheme a defense. You know, they have us in

1448
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 11: the whole new NFL type of scheme, so just making

1449
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 11: sure they know that I'm able to adapt in any

1450
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 11: any scheme, no matter you know what where.

1451
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: When I line me at, what's been the challenge and

1452
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: how has that gone trying to learn that system as

1453
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: quickly as you can. Now you're coming from pro system

1454
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: with moren Dell in Michigan. Now he was with the

1455
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: pros a long time, it was with the Giants. So

1456
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: has that made the transition a little bit easier?

1457
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 5: For sure?

1458
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 11: And also I'll play with you know, three different defensive

1459
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 11: coordinations in four years, So it's being able to adapt

1460
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 11: playing in different type of fronts.

1461
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 5: You know, it's definitely helped a lot.

1462
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: Now you wait in it just over a lot of questions.

1463
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 6: I got a question for you.

1464
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 5: I'm sorry he got the next question, Joe, I'm sorry

1465
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 5: to cut you off. What was the best part about

1466
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 5: being a Michigan man?

1467
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 11: Uh, you know, being a teammate networks man. He's been

1468
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 11: a great team a fellow captain here. I mean he's

1469
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 11: been I mean he hasn't gotten me ever since I

1470
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 11: got there.

1471
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 5: I mean just been the guy. Yeah, yeah, you man,

1472
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 5: but yeah, for sure, this guy right.

1473
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: Here, dude, you're good. I was talking to domin the

1474
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: other day. So you waited just under two fifty. Right,

1475
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: But I think watching you in preparation for this, it

1476
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 2: was pretty clear that you're an edgesetter, right. Is that

1477
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: something that despite where you measure that you want to

1478
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: show executives that, look, you can trust me to do

1479
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: the dirty work on the edge as well as rushed

1480
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 2: the passer.

1481
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 6: That's right.

1482
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 11: I mean I actually enjoy, you know, stopping the run

1483
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 11: a lot more than that the rush of the passer,

1484
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 11: even though it may pay us a lot more.

1485
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a lot more.

1486
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 11: Fun when you can do moralize on offense and stop

1487
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 11: the run and on the man in front of you,

1488
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 11: you know, just stop going from moving forward. So I

1489
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 11: mean it's a lot of fun.

1490
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: And yeah, but the fun stuff is rushing the passer

1491
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: for a lot of people and you get those one

1492
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: on ones this week. So what did you want to

1493
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: flash in terms of pass rushing those all important one

1494
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: on one drolls during the course of the week.

1495
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a.

1496
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 14: Different arsenal, you know, showing showcase of different moves go

1497
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 14: ahead against you know, different different types of talent, different

1498
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 14: types of sets, and how I react and just making

1499
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 14: sure I'm staying positive within myself, you know, either for

1500
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 14: win or lost, don't get too high and get to low.

1501
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: Thanks you, so I appreciate it. But we're joining by

1502
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: argon Offensive tackle Josh Connolly. Josh, how do you think

1503
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: things have gone so far first couple of days out there?

1504
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I feel like it's been okay. Also

1505
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 15: up saucy downs, but you know the upside lagh to down.

1506
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 15: So I mean, I feel like that's what That's what

1507
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 15: I'll kind of look forward to, is making more of those,

1508
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 15: you know what I mean, having more ups than anything,

1509
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 15: and learning from all my downs and continue to just

1510
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 15: fight and.

1511
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: Thrives all important one on ones in past pro You're

1512
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: never gonna win all those rests because its advantage the

1513
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: defense in those. It's always advantage defense in those. What

1514
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, No, I don't think enough people do. To

1515
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: be totally honest with you, but what are the things

1516
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: that you wanted to show in those drills to scouts

1517
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: and personnel when you got into them that you can

1518
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: do at the next level.

1519
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that I can just get out in space.

1520
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 15: If I have to, if I have to go one

1521
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 15: on one to protect their franchise quarterback, That's what I'll do.

1522
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: You measured with thirty four in charms. I think it

1523
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: was a really nice measurement for you. How do you

1524
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: use how do you how do you utilize that length

1525
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 2: in your technique in terms of how you pass protect?

1526
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 15: I thought like it allows me to strike a little

1527
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 15: earlier and once when the lands, I keep them off

1528
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 15: my body and away from the quarterbacks.

1529
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 2: Tho, now I know they've they've moved to a couple

1530
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: of different positions. What has it been like trying to

1531
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: show off that versatility NFL scouts that are here.

1532
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 15: I mean, that's all I'm trying to do is just

1533
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 15: so off that versatility. It's it's a little uncomfortable, but

1534
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 15: at the same time, you gotta get uncomfortable to grow.

1535
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 6: So that's how I kind of look at it.

1536
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: How much had you done anything at right tackle, either

1537
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: in games or in practice leading up to this this

1538
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: this event today.

1539
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 15: Really only individual drills. I haven't done a lot in practice.

1540
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 15: I've probably had a few, like I've had a few

1541
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 15: reps live and not not barely any.

1542
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I talked to offensive lineman all the time

1543
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: in the NFL, and they tell me, like, try right

1544
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: with your left hand right, if you're alrighty, try batt

1545
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: and lefty. If you're a right hand right it's really

1546
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: really tough. What was the toughest part of trying to

1547
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: make that quick transition? Is it the footwork? Is it

1548
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: the punch in the hand placement? What's the toughest part

1549
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: of that for you?

1550
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 15: I think it's all footwork and then really just being

1551
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 15: able to sit in that stance.

1552
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: So awesome, Well, Josh, good luck the rest of the week.

1553
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: We appreciate the time in and hopefully you get drafted

1554
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: nice and high right for sure. All right, We're joined

1555
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: by North Dakota State offensive lineman Gray's Abel Gray was

1556
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: a teammate of Giants offensive lineman Jay Kubas at North

1557
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: Dakota State. Gray, how was the first couple of days

1558
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: of Senior Bowl practice you think gone for you?

1559
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gone.

1560
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 16: Well, There's a few things I'd like to clean up,

1561
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 16: maybe a few sets or plays that i'd like to

1562
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 16: have back, but that's the game of football.

1563
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 5: You just got to move on and keep going to

1564
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 5: the next place.

1565
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 16: So I'm excited to get back out there tomorrow and

1566
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 16: see the improvement that I can make from today.

1567
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: What kind of advice did Jay give you heading into

1568
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: this process about being ready to go this weekend.

1569
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think the main thing you really appreciate me

1570
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 16: was never take a snap for granted, you never know

1571
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 16: when your last play is going to be, and you

1572
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 16: got to appreciate every single time you get to put

1573
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 16: the pads on, because after today, you don't get to

1574
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 16: put them on again until August their July. So to

1575
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 16: understand that kind of makes you appreciate the game of

1576
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 16: football a little more.

1577
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: What's been the biggest challenge for you moving from outside

1578
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: in college now you've been a left guard, right guard,

1579
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 2: and center. What's the biggest challenge of that adjustment having

1580
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: kind of those defensive I'm right on top of you,

1581
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: working with a little bit less space.

1582
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think you hit it right there as you

1583
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 16: kind of explain it, they're just right on top of you,

1584
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 16: and it's a lot quicker. Everything happens way sooner finding

1585
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 16: that out now, so just being able to throw your

1586
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 16: punch faster. And then in the wrung scheme, I mean,

1587
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 16: they're they're going to be on your right away in

1588
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 16: that guard is you're kind of setting the double team.

1589
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 16: You're setting the physicality for the double team. So understanding

1590
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 16: that's really critical.

1591
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: How much had you worked on doing the snap and

1592
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: getting that handed really fast? You kind of have to

1593
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: the first part accountact get to the snap is going

1594
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 2: to be one hand, right, So how much did you

1595
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: work on that heading into this knowing that they might

1596
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: try to work you at some center?

1597
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I snapped in high school and then

1598
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 16: I snapped the first few years of college, so being

1599
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 16: able to understand what it took. I always talked about it.

1600
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 16: It's like riding a bike once. Once you figure it

1601
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 16: out and master it, it might take you a little

1602
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 16: bit to get back on it. But uh, it's been

1603
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 16: good so far. And that's what I appreciate is kind

1604
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 16: of understand of, Hey, you gotta be quick at center,

1605
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 16: and you gotta be fast, and you.

1606
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 5: Use that to your ability.

1607
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: Now we all know North Dakota State likes to run

1608
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: the football a little bit. You guys are not a

1609
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 2: pass first offense. So what were some of the things

1610
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: you wanted to show in the one on one pass

1611
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: pro drills here? Which I'm sure we're critical for you

1612
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: to show these evaluators that, look, you want a guy

1613
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: that could pas protect. I'm not just a one game guy.

1614
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: I can do that too.

1615
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think that's a big part of your job

1616
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 16: is protecting a quarterback and making sure he stays upright

1617
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 16: at every single place. So we always pride ourselves at

1618
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 16: North Dakota State that there isn't a time limit and

1619
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 16: pass pro.

1620
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 5: You got to pass pro as long as it takes.

1621
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 16: So just having that mindset here in the one on

1622
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 16: ones was really critical and it helped me great.

1623
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: Good luck the rest of the week. You've been awesome.

1624
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the time.

1625
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me all right.

1626
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: Now, we're joined by running back Marcus Yarns out of

1627
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: the University of Delaware. Marcus, how do you think the

1628
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: first couple of days of practice we've gone for you?

1629
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 17: I think they went pretty well.

1630
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 9: You know.

1631
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 17: I've been getting in go work with the linebackers in

1632
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 17: the team period, so I feel like things overall has

1633
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 17: been as good for me. I've been having a good

1634
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 17: success in running and getting out with my routes and

1635
01:03:59,120 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 17: knowing my assignments.

1636
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed watching you leading up to this, especially

1637
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: you're working in the past game. How did you develop

1638
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: into such a good receiver coming out of that running

1639
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: back position?

1640
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 17: To be honest, like this, growing up, I used to

1641
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 17: always compete with not only my brothers, I used to

1642
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 17: compete with my cousins and friends as well, just in

1643
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 17: the backyard, getting one on ones, and I never wanted

1644
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 17: to lose, you know, So that that just sharpened me up.

1645
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 17: And then from there just chaining and honing in on

1646
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 17: my skills.

1647
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: It helped me out anything in particular, you're trying to

1648
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 2: show evaluate this here once you get on the field

1649
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: in these practices that yes, I can do that.

1650
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 17: Like you said, running them routes, that's one thing. Being

1651
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 17: able to make reeze in the run in the run

1652
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 17: game and explosive and try to stay explosive. Not only that,

1653
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 17: but I wanted to prove that I could put my

1654
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 17: face in the past.

1655
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: Bro.

1656
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: I was about to ask you about pass protection, but

1657
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: you know the deal man, third down, if you can't

1658
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: protect the quarterback, doesn't matter how good you could catch

1659
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 2: the ball, you ain't gonna play right one hundred percent.

1660
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: So for you, what's the biggest challenge in trying to

1661
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: improve your pass pro that you're really trying to work

1662
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: on to get better at? Just staying under staying in

1663
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: my frame.

1664
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 17: A lot of times in this past season, I will

1665
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 17: get outside of my frame and I would lose my power.

1666
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 17: So just try and get with that, and then not

1667
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 17: only that, working on my strike as well, not letting

1668
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 17: them get hands on my chest. I want to get

1669
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 17: hands on first.

1670
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: So this little things like that. I know a lot

1671
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: of people think pass pro it's just you know, is

1672
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: he willing to throw his body in there? But it's

1673
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: a lot more. There is a lot of technique to it, right,

1674
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: you're what like two or five? Is that what you're

1675
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 2: way down? And give it a take one ninety? Sorry,

1676
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 2: you're right, I have it in front of you. I

1677
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: as the number was. So, So you're trying to pick

1678
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: up two hundred and thirty pound blitzing linebackers two hundred

1679
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: and seventy pound edge players. Your technique has to be

1680
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: good otherwise you're gonna be on the wrong end of

1681
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: a charging bull.

1682
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 17: Right, Yes, sir, you're absolutely right.

1683
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: So you mentioned the hands part of it. How much

1684
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: is that? Also having your film study down and recognizing

1685
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: where those butcher's gonna come from so you're in the

1686
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: proper position.

1687
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 17: Oh, that's a huge factor as well, you know, just

1688
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 17: recognizing the pressures, knowing who's going to be hot, or

1689
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 17: knowing who's likely to come that play is a big part.

1690
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: And it's just like it's like a cheak hole.

1691
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 16: You know.

1692
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 17: If you get those little things down, those little details down,

1693
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 17: then that just helps you get one step ahead a

1694
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 17: yell opponent.

1695
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: You talked about making reads in the run game, right,

1696
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: What if teams talk to you about being used in

1697
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: between the tackles and not just as a receiver because

1698
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 2: you you did plenty of that and Dell or obviously,

1699
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: what have those conversations been, Like conversation has just been

1700
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: is like am I willing to do it?

1701
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 17: And not only that, it's like cannot do it because

1702
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 17: I was undersized, you know, So I just want to

1703
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 17: go out there and showcase.

1704
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 5: That I can.

1705
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: What are you trying to you talk about what you

1706
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: do on the field when you're in meetings with these teams.

1707
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 2: What are you trying to get across about Marcus Orange

1708
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: is a dude, and how you approach the game?

1709
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 17: You know, I just wanted to get across my personality honestly,

1710
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 17: just to get them to know what type of guy

1711
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 17: I am. And outside of that, just so that I

1712
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 17: have football IQ as well. I'm just not out there playing.

1713
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 5: I actually know what I'm doing now.

1714
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 2: You had a you're at the end of the competition

1715
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: period in the practice that got you one on one

1716
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 2: and I'm not surprise one of them with the linebacker

1717
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: you won. Just we have video that take us through

1718
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 2: that play and kind of how you set up the

1719
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: linebacker to beat him outside. I think you want again

1720
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: it's a Eugena Sante correct.

1721
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 12: Oh.

1722
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 17: Well, first off, I want to give it a huge

1723
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 17: shout out to Eugene. You know, he's a great player

1724
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 17: in itself, you know. But as far as the play,

1725
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 17: go uh Art released it just to see how he

1726
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 17: was gonna play as diverts. He stayed square, he stayed

1727
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 17: he stayed down, He was patient. So I had to

1728
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 17: set it up and just take a little bit more time.

1729
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 17: As far as the one two, that's just one of

1730
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 17: my go tos, you know. But I just recognized that

1731
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 17: he was sitting on it, and once I got on

1732
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 17: the bite, I knew it was over it.

1733
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: Margus. Has been fun watching you. Good luck the rest

1734
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: of the way. I hope to see in the NFL

1735
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: suit man. Yess sir, I appreciate you all right. Now

1736
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: we're joined by Tennessee defensive oneman Omar Norman lot. How

1737
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: was the first couple days of practice?

1738
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 18: Man, it's always a good time when you get to

1739
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 18: put them in with the shorter pads on. Honestly, always,

1740
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 18: I'm blessed.

1741
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: How did it tate to kind of get used to

1742
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: having the pads back on after you know, a month

1743
01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: and a half without.

1744
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 5: Him the whole practice day?

1745
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 18: Honestly, Usually that usually takes like two three days to

1746
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 18: get back into the groove.

1747
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 5: But it was a good day, good first day, good start.

1748
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: How do you think you did in one on ones

1749
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: once you kind of got into that groove.

1750
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 5: Uh? Think I did legitimate.

1751
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 18: You know, my get off is always there, so that

1752
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 18: looked good to me. And I think I just need

1753
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 18: to be a little bit more active as far as

1754
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 18: my hand handwork, Like, like we were just talking about

1755
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 18: this the first couple of days, I'm still tuning up.

1756
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 18: I don't think I felt comfortable enough to throw my

1757
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 18: speedball pass rust moves, so I just kind of bore

1758
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 18: rush a lot and worked off of power just to

1759
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 18: get myself going.

1760
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, now during the year, you played up and

1761
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 2: down the line, right, so big third and ten fourth quarter,

1762
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: big game. You need to get after the quarterback. Where

1763
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: do you want to line up along the defensive line?

1764
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: You're a three technique guy? Do you like being a

1765
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: little more outside? Where do you want to line up?

1766
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1767
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 18: That lining up on the guard like a wide almost

1768
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 18: like a four eye going to work. It'd probably be

1769
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 18: like a jet front two threes with the linebacker and

1770
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 18: mugged up over the cinate. So I know I got

1771
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 18: the one on one and yeah, that's that'd probably be

1772
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 18: my dream. That's the chef's kiss.

1773
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: As you talk to teams, where are the envision playing

1774
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 2: you on the next level? What do they think you

1775
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 2: fit in the best.

1776
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 6: Three tech tech?

1777
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah? Three down three tech.

1778
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that makes total sense. By the way,

1779
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: hundred percent you mentioned hand youw says this week is

1780
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: something that you're kind of getting back into the groove.

1781
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 2: And when you leave here and you hit back to

1782
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: the workshop trying to get ready to for the NFL,

1783
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: what are some of thing that you're still trying to

1784
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 2: fine tune in your game?

1785
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 18: Having to counter second working on my second move and

1786
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 18: pass us being faster with it. Of course you always

1787
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 18: throw the second move, but sometimes it's slow if you

1788
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 18: miss your Your first movie got to be now you know,

1789
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 18: it's a game of seconds in inches, so if you're

1790
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 18: an inch late, second short, then you'll be getting blocked.

1791
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 18: So I just think working on you know, my second

1792
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 18: move is something that I'm.

1793
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 6: Going to be working on team.

1794
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: If enough teams ask you, what is your go to trait,

1795
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 2: the thing that you kind of depend on the most

1796
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: that makes you a dangerous defensive lineman, what would to be.

1797
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 4: Probably my hands and then me being first to the fight.

1798
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 18: That me being first of the fight meaning my get off,

1799
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 18: my snap anticipation, you know what I mean.

1800
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: That is like my gift omark. It's been fun watching you.

1801
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: Man appreciated, best luck the rest of the week.

1802
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 5: Thank you for your time.

1803
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: All right, We're joined by Jacksonville State offensive lineman Clay

1804
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: Webb claib. How's it, goll Man, It's going great.

1805
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 10: I'm ecstatic to be here.

1806
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 8: Now.

1807
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: People are gonna put the small school label on you,

1808
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: but of course you're at the biggest school. I mean

1809
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: like there, I mean, let's be honest, Georgia is like

1810
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: the SEC program. So how do you think your time

1811
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: at Georgia helped prepare you for going up against all

1812
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: those SEC pas rushers that you're facing this week.

1813
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 10: Well, I think it helped tremendously because I mean I

1814
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 10: was going against guys like Jordan Davis.

1815
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 2: And Jordan Carter. They're like pretty good, right, Yeah.

1816
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 5: They're just a little good.

1817
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 10: I would say they're okay, they're great guys. I love

1818
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 10: going against them when I was at Georgia. So I mean,

1819
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 10: like just that in the back of my mind, that's

1820
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 10: how I just know, like, oh, guys I'm playing at

1821
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 10: Jackson State aren't quite like this, but I still need

1822
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 10: a lot, you know, take them un seriously like everyone.

1823
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 6: Was an opponent.

1824
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 2: Now, it's okay, we don't like to talk to nice

1825
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: about Eagles all here with Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter.

1826
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 2: It's okay, we don't say too many nice things about Eagles.

1827
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 2: You have to play multiple spots over the course of practice.

1828
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 2: What was that like? Shifting from guard and I think

1829
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: you had some center reps to over the course of

1830
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: the today. So how do you think that transition went

1831
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 2: for you?

1832
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 4: I think it went pretty well.

1833
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 10: I mean I've never played center or right guard in

1834
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 10: a live route, so that's pretty crazy to like just

1835
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 10: hit both of them at the same time in the

1836
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 10: same practice. As left guard, center, and right guard. So

1837
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 10: hopefully that showed off that I do have some versatility.

1838
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: How much had you done it in practice before you

1839
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 2: got here, like in training and stuff like that.

1840
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 10: I've been practicing like center in like my training camp,

1841
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 10: but other than that, I haven't done anything at Jacksonville Stake.

1842
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: All right, So you've been primarily a left guard then,

1843
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: So I mean I've talked to a bunch of giants

1844
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: and they talk about moving from the left to the

1845
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: right or the right to the left. They have more

1846
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 2: interesting language, but they say, it's try writing with your

1847
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: left hand right. It's really hard. So what was it

1848
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 2: like trying to first of all, the willingness to do

1849
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 2: that here? Why'd you decide to do it? And what

1850
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: was trying to figure that out?

1851
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 8: Like for you?

1852
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 10: Well, my coach asked me to do it, so I

1853
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 10: did it. I'm not a very hard guy. I'm not

1854
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 10: gonna be like, oh, I don't want to do that

1855
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 10: because whatever whatever my coach tells me, I'll do. I'm

1856
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 10: a sponge now.

1857
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: James Frenz, I believe he is your offensive line coach, right,

1858
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: he's our assistant offensive line coach. I was watching you guys,

1859
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: one on ones and how after every rep he comes

1860
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: up to you and coaches you, guys up. What has

1861
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: it been like working with him this week and him

1862
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 2: trying to get you ready for the pros?

1863
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 10: Oh, it's been wonderful. I mean, I just love his

1864
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 10: coaching style. I like a coach that'll come over here

1865
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 10: and taught to you, like, Oh, this is what you

1866
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 10: did wrong this week you need to work on. That's

1867
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 10: kind of how I feel like I get better at

1868
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 10: every rep.

1869
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: If you would describe your game for somebody, how would

1870
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: you describe you? More of a power guy? You're more

1871
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: of a finesse guy. You guy that's really going with

1872
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: your feed your hands. If an NFL evaluates said, what's

1873
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 2: the strength of your game as an offensive lineman, what

1874
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: would you answer them?

1875
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,799
Speaker 10: I would say, probably strengthen athleticism. I mean, at Jacksonville

1876
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 10: State we were a very heavy run team. So I

1877
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 10: feel like my film should show that, like I'm able

1878
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 10: to knock people back and then get off blocks and

1879
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 10: get on backers and things like that.

1880
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: I apologize I did not grind my Jacksonville State film

1881
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: before I got here. I should have a little bit

1882
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: most of most of the outside zoned inside zone you

1883
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: a lot a pinpoll or you doing power counter? What

1884
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: what kind of run scheme do you run there? Specifically

1885
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: majority of inside zone with counter and power.

1886
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 10: There was one time in a game two years ago,

1887
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 10: gets North Alabama ran the same inside zone play twelve

1888
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 10: times in a row.

1889
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 2: Did it work?

1890
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 5: It worked well.

1891
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 2: I'd imagine if you canna run a twelve times their

1892
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 2: own better work. Otherwise that doesn't make a lot of sense, right, Yeah,

1893
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: So how tough is it once you get in let's

1894
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: get out of the one on one stuff right where

1895
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: I think you've done really well. By the way, how

1896
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: tough is it to run things like inside and outside

1897
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: zone in a practice when you don't know these guys

1898
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 2: next to you? And that's really very much a feel

1899
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 2: and working together type of situation for offensive line?

1900
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 10: Then right, Yeah, it's been a little difficult, but I

1901
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 10: feel like we're getting better every time we step on

1902
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 10: the field together. I mean, obviously as a unit we

1903
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 10: need to like off. It's the line is such a

1904
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 10: unit that is important to like understand and feel comfort

1905
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 10: with gods next to you. But with like how short

1906
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 10: are rats are and how few practices we have, it's

1907
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 10: gonna be a little bit of a challenge, but I

1908
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 10: feel like we're coming together at the practice.

1909
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: So I love your group. Right, you got you out

1910
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 2: of Jacksonville State. You have Sacramento State, Jackson Slady got

1911
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: Arkansas State, Jacob Barr, you got Alabama and m Carson Vincent.

1912
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 2: You guys have like the small school crew. And what

1913
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 2: has it been like working with those guys and then

1914
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: trying to get yourselves ready?

1915
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 10: That's been awesome. I mean just everyone's such a great guy.

1916
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm having a great time here, all right.

1917
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: Man. Finally, once you glat when you get in front

1918
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: of gms and coaches and scouts and meetings and you're

1919
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 2: talking to them, what do you want to get across

1920
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: to them about yourself as a guy in terms of

1921
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,959
Speaker 2: how you approach the game and what type of professional

1922
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 2: you would be.

1923
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 10: I would just like to say, I'm one of the

1924
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 10: harder workers you're ever gonna get. I'll be in the

1925
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 10: facility earlier than anyone. I'll leave later than anyone. I'll

1926
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 10: do anything it takes.

1927
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: And by the way, I should ask you this, why

1928
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: do you decide to transfer to Georgia to the Jacksonville State?

1929
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 10: Well, after we won the first Naster Championship with Georgia.

1930
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 2: Humble Bragg. That's okay, No, no, no, no, I'm just.

1931
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 10: Saying allows just to set up what I'm about to

1932
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 10: say next, is like just kind of felt like I

1933
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 10: wasn't really as needed at Georgia, if that makes sense.

1934
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you felt like you wanted a place where

1935
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: you could play all the time and get your reps

1936
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: in and do what you got to do.

1937
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 8: Right.

1938
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: Sure that sounds right, Clay, good stuff and good rest

1939
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: of the week, sir, Thank you.

1940
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 4: All right.

1941
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 2: Those are interviews, folks. I did not count them, but

1942
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 2: I got to imagine we've got to be well over fifty,

1943
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: probably closer to seventy interviews over the seven days six

1944
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: and a half days I was in Frisco and Mobile

1945
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: for these interviews again Eric Galco, Jonathan who does coms

1946
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: over there for the Shrine Get Bowl, then in Frisco.

1947
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 2: A great job by them getting all this with players

1948
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 2: for SHRIME. An excellent job again by Jim Mowing the

1949
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 2: folks over at the Senior Bowl for helping us out there.

1950
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Speaker 2: So I know a lot more about these guys than

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Speaker 2: I did before I got there. It was fun talking

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Speaker 2: to them and watching them at practice apply their trade.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for absorbing all this content. Folks. Again,

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Speaker 2: this is just on podcast platforms because they're in audio

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Speaker 2: only interviews, So thank you so much for being with us.

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Speaker 2: Hope you enjoyed our coverage. Next couple weeks, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a little bit slower here on the Giant Shuttle.

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Speaker 2: Just gonna warn you only do a couple interviews a

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Speaker 2: week and that's all we're gonna do, so be ready

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Speaker 2: for that. We'll have Draft season though as well, so

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Speaker 2: we'll stove a bunch of stuff for you, just not

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Speaker 2: as much as you had this week when again Peerson

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Speaker 2: a great job by him getting all this content edited

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Speaker 2: and posted for us back in New Jersey. For everyone

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Speaker 2: that joined me over the past week, I am John Schmelk.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.