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Speaker 1: The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. This is

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Speaker 1: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. It is I am

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Speaker 1: Dale Lolly, you are Matt Williamson. You only bring the

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Speaker 1: facts on this show. That's all we do. We just

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Speaker 1: bring you straight facts, big stuff here the end of

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Speaker 1: the week. Coming in here with some energy. Steelers want

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Speaker 1: to know. We've got a game in the books for

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Speaker 1: a week two and the Raiders are coming in. The

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Speaker 1: Raiders are coming to town. Uh, interesting game, lots of

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you know when you look at

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, um, what they have been over the last

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Speaker 1: few years and what they may be now. Uh did

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Speaker 1: Monday Night's game with them beating Baltimore change your perspective

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Speaker 1: on your outlook on the Raiders at all this year?

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Speaker 1: Maybe a little because I was unbelievably down on them,

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Speaker 1: to be you were like right right, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: my podcast, I often would say my favorite over under

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Speaker 1: beeth of wind Totals is going under on the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: I think there were eight or eight and a half

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Speaker 1: something like that, which is probably still too high and

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Speaker 1: so they guess too high in that division. But I

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Speaker 1: thought this team had a chance to be really bad,

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Speaker 1: and that probably was a little unfair. I mean there

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Speaker 1: last year they were a definition of a mediocre team.

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Speaker 1: You know, the offense was really good, defense really bad.

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Speaker 1: Yards for play ends upright around zero. You know, They've

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Speaker 1: won eight games, lost eight games. And I think Gruden

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Speaker 1: is a good coach, But I think Gruden's a bad

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Speaker 1: team builder, you know. And I think he gets enamored

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Speaker 1: with offensive weapons and forgets things like guards and defensive

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Speaker 1: tackles and linebackers and whatnots, Yeah, cornerbacks and things like that,

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Speaker 1: and defense in general. Um, But I also think that

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Speaker 1: opening night in a stadium like that, you know, all

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Speaker 1: those fans couldn't do anything last year. And I look

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Speaker 1: at Week two for the Steelers and Green Bay and

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Speaker 1: Seattle and some awesome fan bases that are gonna have

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Speaker 1: host their first game. It's gonna be really tough on

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Speaker 1: the opponent as well, you know. So I think there

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Speaker 1: were some emotions involved there. And frankly, the Ravens are

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Speaker 1: in a bad place right now, you know, it's really

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Speaker 1: bad place. Might have more to do about the Ravens

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders, yeah, and they'll be without Ronnie Stanley

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Speaker 1: again this week. They're they're starting left tackle. It's not pretty.

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Speaker 1: It's not pretty at all. I mean, besides the mare,

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Speaker 1: maybe Humphrey is the only guy they could afford to

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Speaker 1: lose less than Stanley, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 1: I guess Owl's moving to left tackle. I heard, which

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Speaker 1: maybe he's better than the right tackle, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think either one. The tackles are gonna be a problem

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Speaker 1: and they lose loss of started guard and down the

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Speaker 1: running backs and receivers are low, and you know, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens are in a bad plays. They're in a bad place.

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Speaker 1: It's a big game, Matt. It is because one of

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Speaker 1: these teams is going to go to two and l

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Speaker 1: presumably if unless there's a tie. Yeah, he assumes right.

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Speaker 1: Since nine and we talked about the other side of

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Speaker 1: this yesterday, if you start owing to how yeah, difficult

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Speaker 1: of this to make the playoffs. Since nineteen sixty two

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Speaker 1: point seven percent of the teams that began this season

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Speaker 1: two and oh have made the playoffs. And that's a

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Speaker 1: little different, but still, well, it can't be too big difference.

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Speaker 1: Last season with the expansion to fourteen teams, right, nine

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Speaker 1: and oh interesting, I guess that's not surprising. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Even just like watching last night's

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have a tough climb. They were desperate, they

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Speaker 1: played desperate. They both played desperate. Already, you lose two

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Speaker 1: I guess to say it's true if you can get

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Speaker 1: your division. Um, I think it'll be a bigger for

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Speaker 1: They'll probably get back to their winning ways against Houston.

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Speaker 1: it's interesting that that, you know, you don't you hate

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Speaker 1: but that's yeah, there's only since that the Pirates losing

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Speaker 1: we won seventeenth of your record, right and you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of these teams are Yeah, I don't want

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Speaker 1: you make of this one? Matt So last year, in

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Speaker 1: in home games, t J. Watt had sixteen tackles for

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Speaker 1: see if they like if his splits were like that

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Speaker 1: his sacks came in home games last year with no

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Speaker 1: away as flukey. If it were any other year, I

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Speaker 1: and I mean Alex Leatherwood. Yeah, first, you know, row

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Speaker 1: he was a heavily penalized guy. And he's a grabber

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Speaker 1: How many times have we talked about though, just even

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Speaker 1: rushing teams are going to benefit from this more than anyone.

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Speaker 1: And they're the best pass rushing team. How about this

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Speaker 1: the young blood It's a hundred sixty one is the record.

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Speaker 1: It's not like Lawrence Taylor and his brother that's never played,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking I had someone had to be awesome and

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Speaker 1: I'm drawn a blank. Clay Matthew, the Matthews has had

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Speaker 1: a hundred six the opposite. It wasn't a great great

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Speaker 1: right they had they had a hundred sixty one, So

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Speaker 1: what brothers with a hundred fifty two and a half,

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Speaker 1: Did they just pass the longs? Did you say? Or

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Speaker 1: J's he's got fifty one sacks in his first like

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Speaker 1: the Boases have a lot to shoot for. Maybe Derek

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Speaker 1: All right, but yeah, how much a little you got

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Speaker 1: that little bit? Okay, this is when you sent me,

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Speaker 1: and I'd already seen this one as well. But Mike

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Speaker 1: Tomlin's team have been an underdog fifty eight times in

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Speaker 1: a regular season, which actually isn't that much much much

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Speaker 1: at all. He'sn't year fifteen here, and he's been under

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Speaker 1: all fifty eight times. It's like nothing. Um, they've covered

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Speaker 1: sixty six point one percent of those games covered, they've

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Speaker 1: won them outright thirty of them. That's a big number.

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Speaker 1: More than fifty of games there have been dogs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think many times they've been ten twelve point

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Speaker 1: were six dogs last week and wanted out right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's it was. It was a seven point serial. It

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Speaker 1: was basically a third teen point swing from what Vegas

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Speaker 1: thought that game was going to be, right right, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all those numbers are almost equally as impressive,

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Speaker 1: let alone covering I mean more than how many times

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Speaker 1: actually win the game? I bet it's because usually you're

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Speaker 1: on the road. You're very rarely a home underdogs if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're a decent team, right exactly. So, I

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Speaker 1: mean I just wonder how many what percentage of underdogs

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Speaker 1: the tomlin A very slim way under and he's a

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Speaker 1: fifty percent on that. That's a big deal, ye it

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Speaker 1: is when they get to this because we always need

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