1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Uh, it's could it's happened? Could hear Robert Evans The 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: podcast that is now begun. Um. This is a show 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: about how things are falling apart and occasionally how to 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: how to maybe deal with that, maybe you try to 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: steer things in a better direction. We talk about a 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff today. We're gonna be talking about more 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: supply line um um stuff. And and and in order to 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: kind of introduce this episode, we wanted to bring in Alexis, 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: who posted a threat on Twitter um about some of 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: their experiences in the industry in which they work that 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: that we all found very interesting. And so we just 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: wanted to bring Alexis on and uh and and first off, 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: have you kind of go over what what you went 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: over in that threat and then um kind of zero 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: win and talk about that. So Alexis, welcome to the show. Hi, 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Um. Yeah, I'm gonna let you 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: take it from here and then we'll we'll drill in 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: once you once you get through your your piece, all right, 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: So I'm just going to go ahead and read the 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: thread that I posted and then yeah, we'll go from there. Uh. So, 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: labor shortage discourse time. I work for a food manufacturing company, 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: specifically bottling and canning various beverages, and we are desperately understaffed. 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: The wages are competitive, but they can't keep anyone on 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: after they hire them. Why, because we're short on people. 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: As soon as someone is trained, they start throwing massive 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: amounts of mandatory over time on them to try and 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: cover the missing pieces while they look for more people 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: to hire in. Folks get burned out and quit. And 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: this is where my hate of just in time manufacturing 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: comes in. Obviously, in food manufacturing, you can't just stock 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: a warehouse with stuff and let it sit for a year, 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: but you can keep a couple of weeks worth stock 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: rotating at all times if you devote the warehouse space, employees, 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: et cetera to doing so. This would give you some 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: flex time to train your new people without having to 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: run everyone into the dirt. So, even with a place 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: that is offering decent money and benefits, because this is 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: a union shop, we can't keep people because we're making 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: a conscious decision to only ever have one to two 40 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: days of stock on hand to increase profits. Meanwhile, thanks 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: to lean manufacturing, we don't keep a ton of spare 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: parts for our equipment on hand. Thanks to the supply 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: chain just disruption, We've got packaging equipment that's been waiting 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: on replacement parts for six months, which further fux our 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: productivity doomed to downtime, which makes the company's schedule even 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: more overtime to try and make up for the lost 47 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: cases from equipment downtime, which burns out more employees, which 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: puts us in an even deeper labor hole. I've been 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: warning about just in time being a time bomb in 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: the making for over a decade now. When it works perfectly, 51 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: you're fine. A single interruption causes cascade effects. And since 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: everyone has been doing the just in time thing, there's 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: zero slack anywhere in the system. Grocery stores don't have 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: any extra soda in the back they get behind demand 55 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: builds up. Distribution doesn't have any pallets in the warehouse, 56 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: ha what warehouse, so they can't answer the surgeon demand 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: from grocery stores. Manufacturing doesn't have spare parts for aging equipment, 58 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: so we can't boost production. Spare parts makers don't have 59 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: stock build up, so and on it goes. The actual 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: approximate cause of this is deregulation of capitalism that is 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: incentivized quarterly profits and made long term thinking anathema to 62 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: c e O s. But sure, conservatives blame California for 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: not letting old trucks offload at the ports. That's it, 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: and that's that's the essence of my threat. I then 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: plug my podcast at the end. Yeah, so I wanted 66 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: to I'm curious as to kind of like, uh to 67 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: what it like. I'm trying to understand, like what the 68 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: solution is. Like We've talked a bit about Okay, just 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: in time, manufacturing is is problematic for a lot of reasons. Um, 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: keeping more like on the shelves is going to allow 71 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: you to avoid these crunches and is going to like 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: make supply line issues like the ones we've experiencing since 73 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: the start of the COVID pandemic less severe and less common. Um, 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: But how do you actually how do you actually make 75 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: that happen? Because I guess the traditional free market thing 76 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: is that, like, well, because this has been such a 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: problem for companies, um, you know, they'll naturally change the 78 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: system in order to avoid this in the future. I 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: don't feel like that's likely to happen. Um, And I'm wondering, like, 80 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: what do we uh what what what do you think 81 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: is the way forward here? Well, because some of the 82 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: problem is is right now, like most most companies, you 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: will pay taxes on stuff that you have stored in 84 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: a warehouse, things like that. Um, so no company is 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: going to voluntarily lower their profit margins if the other 86 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: companies don't do it themselves as well. So really there's 87 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: going to have to be some sort of forcing of 88 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: companies to uh have that on hand. And I don't 89 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: see just being able to write a law that says, oh, well, 90 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: you're required to have this much backstock on hand as 91 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: as being a functional way to work. And really, as 92 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, Robert, I know you're well aware 93 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: the capitalism itself is kind of the problem. But as 94 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: far as I guess, a solution to this sort of thing, um, 95 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: you would have to disincentivize the quarterly profits above all 96 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: in order to force companies back into long term thinking. Now, 97 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: from a purely like mechanical standpoint, um, I guess if 98 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: you if you did something to incentivize companies having backstock 99 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: or flex stock on on hand, that might help. But um, 100 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I'm just a cog in the machine. 101 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: Getting ground up. So as far as like big solutions, 102 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: that's I mean, I've been looking at it ever since 103 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: I worked in a freaking casket factory and we started 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: doing just in time there, and just every time that 105 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: I've been in a place, a manufacturing place and seen 106 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: it happen, I'm just like, oh, this is gonna go 107 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: wrong because you can't. You can do just in time 108 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: if all of your suppliers are local, but having it 109 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: stretched across the global supply chain, it just it's inevitably 110 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: going to collapse in on itself. I'm sorry that I'm 111 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: not more helpful. No, no, but I mean this is 112 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: this is like the problem because there's a lot of 113 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: reasons why this supply chain is global. Some of them 114 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: are like labor related reasons, some of them are cost cunning, 115 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: some of them are just like pure pragmatism. UM. But 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: it's trying to like I I don't. I feel like 117 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: it's it's one thing to say, like, well, part of 118 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: the problem is that like all of these different pieces 119 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: come from different countries, um. And there's a number of 120 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: shady reasons for aspects of that. UM. But it makes 121 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: for greater problems when there's a pilin shortage and then like, Okay, well, 122 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: what are we what are we gonna Are you suggesting 123 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: that we make everything domestically because I don't feel like 124 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: that's a realistic solution. Um. Yeah, And it's like it's 125 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: just it's I'm trying to get a handle on there's 126 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: a couple of angles on this. There's there's what we 127 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: think is going to happen, um, and then there's the 128 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: question of like, is there a way that the system 129 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: as it exists could make this whole thing less vulnerable? 130 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: And and a lot of ways that's going to be 131 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: separate from the question of what would be better for 132 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: everyone to happen, because a lot of what would be 133 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: better for everyone to happen is a white A significant 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: chunk of these things that we have constantly stocked on 135 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: the shelves are no longer parts of our life, right. Um, 136 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that are made that we 137 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: do not need and that are there's an environmental cost 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: and a show social cost and YadA YadA, YadA. Um. 139 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: But I guess first I'm kind of curious to drilling in, 140 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: like how realistic do you think it is that the 141 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: system as it exists is going to like mitigate this 142 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: and come up with better ways to to do this 143 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: that render us less vulnerable to these supply crunches. Like 144 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: is there. I don't see a great financial incentive in 145 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: it for them yet, um, because they don't seem to 146 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: be hurting, right, Like that's that's the thing. Well actually, 147 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: and and again, please keep in mind this as limited 148 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: anecdotal evidence. Yeah, because it's gonna be definitely John Deer, 149 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: I know, was making record profits before all the this 150 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: union stuff happened, but like that's not everyone, right. So again, 151 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: I work for a soda manufacturer. So every time you're 152 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, enjoying your your schmetzy Schmola or your or 153 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: your Chmago whatever whatever, I'm not going to explain which 154 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: company I work for because I don't want to get 155 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: in trouble. Um. And we're we're actually a captive bottler, 156 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: which means that it's a separate company, but we work 157 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: for the big soda corporation. I think that in certain 158 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: instances those things will change, because for example, just last week, 159 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: we had one of our four lines go down, so 160 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: our production capacity went down because we had a motor 161 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: burnout on the rollers that would move a full palette 162 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: out to be picked up by a forklift, and there 163 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: was no replacement motor in stock, and so we had 164 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: I think forty eight hours of downtime on this. Now, 165 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: all the way up at the top, the company executive, 166 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, we're one of thirty some plants, they don't 167 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: care about why it was down, just that it was down. 168 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: So in our position here, um, the people a little 169 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: higher up the food chain than me are insisting like, hey, 170 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: we've been after you guys for months that we need 171 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: spares like this. And I think that as that sort 172 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: of stuff happens, as it cuts into potential future profits, 173 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's not dropping their profits, but it's keeping 174 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: them from being even higher, maybe certain companies are going 175 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, maybe we do need a couple 176 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: more spares on the shelves. As far as on the 177 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: production side of it, I don't see that happening. I 178 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: think we're still going to be shipping out palettes of 179 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, palettes of corn syrup infected carbonated water as 180 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: fast as we can make them. Which you and you 181 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: were talking about the environmental costs, like you do not 182 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: want to know how much water it takes to make 183 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: a single leader of soda. You really don't um. But 184 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: on this on the production like input side, I think 185 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: that companies are going to start stocking spare parts because 186 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: it has been and I still have friends who work 187 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: for other companies that I used to work for. It 188 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: has been all throughout the system, and I live in 189 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: them West. Every company is going through this where they're 190 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: having huge amounts of downtime because the things as small 191 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: as a gasket or an O ring are not on 192 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: the shelf, and they're finally companies are finally going to 193 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: listen to what their maintenance people have been screaming at them, 194 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: that we can't just stagger along and then oh, well 195 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: it's next day delivery. Yeah, and then you freak out 196 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: that this line was down for twenty four hours now 197 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: that it's not even next day delivery, it's next week delivery. 198 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: I think that side of it they're going to probably 199 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: try and fix. But the other side, shipping to the consumer, 200 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: I really don't see that they're going to change that. Yeah, 201 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean that makes that makes sense, and we are 202 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: you are kind of lad thinking about this inevitably to 203 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: like two conclusions. One of them is that I have 204 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: my I'm sure parts of this the system will adapt, 205 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: as it already has been, in fact, which is why I, 206 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: like you haven't seen toilet paper run out as bad 207 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: as it did at the start of the pandemic. Again, right, 208 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: there is a degree to which the system is capable 209 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: of adjustment, but kind of in a larger sense, um 210 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: this is number one. I'm kind of left with the 211 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: feeling that because of the way this system was set 212 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: up and the fact that it was disrupted so severely, 213 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of impossible to get a percent back on track, 214 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: especially considering the disruptions are going to continue, not just 215 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: waves of COVID, but you know, in natural disasters and whatnot, 216 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: shortages of of things like truck drivers, Like these different 217 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: little hits are going to keep coming, and I just 218 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: don't know that wherever going to like catch up everywhere 219 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: enough that like shortages of some sort aren't an aspect 220 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: of our lives kind of forever. And this is one 221 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: of those things that if you've spent a lot of 222 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: time outside of the United States, that's something a lot 223 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: of people have been dealing with for years. It's just 224 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: not something Americans are used to dealing with. And I 225 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: think I kind of feel like that's just where it 226 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: is now. Like I don't feel like every aspect of 227 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: our our production and consumption system is going to get 228 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: back where it to where it was February. I think 229 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: maybe that's never happening again. No, absolutely, it will not 230 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: ever happen. You were saying earlier that you know, there's 231 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: some practical reasons for the global supply chain. Like one 232 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: of the things that we've had such hard time getting 233 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: in is any of our concentrates that contain real vanilla. Obviously, 234 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: we can't grow vanilla in the United States. That's the 235 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: thing you have to I mean, that's part of why 236 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: colonialism exists, right, you need to go get vanilla. Yeah. 237 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, So, like there are certain things that are 238 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: going to be stay have to stay global if we're 239 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: going to continue to make the things that we make, 240 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: and just from my side of it, being able to see, oh, well, 241 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: why can't we get this concentrate in oh because it 242 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: has vanilla as an ingredient, and there's been a bunch 243 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: of draughts and ship and so vanilla is in a crunch, 244 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: you know that sort of thing. So I just, um, 245 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: you're right in that, Yeah, we're going to have shortages. 246 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: There's it's you know, and it's not just the mechanical 247 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: side on ours. It's like we can't get can in, 248 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: we can't get concentrated in, we can't you know. Whatever 249 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: it is that we can't get in is going to 250 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: slow us down and demand will build up. I did 251 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: have somebody in that thread respond and say, I don't 252 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: see how demand for soda will build up, And I'm like, now, 253 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: I have a friend who's like a diet Dr. Pepper fiend, 254 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: and as soon as diet Dr Pepper shows up, now 255 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: she buys like packs. Demand will absolutely build up for 256 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: stuff When people feel like they're being deprived of something, 257 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: when it becomes available, they are going to hoard it 258 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: as best they can. Yeah, And that's again with soda, 259 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: just kind of an annoyance, although that can because individual 260 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: people can react in extreme ways, can snowball. I'm not 261 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: gonna be surprised if one of these days we have 262 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: somebody shoot up a fucking grocery store because they're whatever 263 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: was out. Um, But that's also not a necessity. And 264 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: I think that, like the concern is that especially when 265 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: you look at stuff like you know, there's a couple 266 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: of states that have like their wheat harvests and corn 267 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: harvest that were like half or less than half of 268 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: normal big chunks of a rack. It was like down 269 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: by I think like seventy um. Like these massive shortages 270 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: of growing basic food stuffs. Um. And that's all that's 271 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: all tight into this, Like it's not the same business 272 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: that you're on, but it's all tied into aspects of this, 273 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: and it's all tied into like a lot of our 274 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: ability to get that food out of the field is 275 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: reliant upon different kinds of mechanical harvesting equipment. The materials 276 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: to which to like fix and replace it are often 277 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: like caught up in this whole just in time problem 278 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: because they don't make enough of them, and sometimes they 279 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: don't have them in stores, and then there's like a 280 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: strike at John Deer and so more aren't getting made 281 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: and so there's not what you need to repair the 282 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: equipment in time to get stuff out of the field everywhere. 283 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: And in a year when you already have a reduction 284 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: of harvests like that cuts down on it further. UM. 285 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: Like I I think I don't know, it's it's this. 286 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: There's always a couple of things to look at, which 287 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: is like number one, as we've talked about like how 288 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: is the system uh going to try to handle this? 289 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: What ways are they going to be successful, what ways 290 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: they're going to fail? What things are you going to 291 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: have to endure? And what things? I think what I 292 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: want to talk about next is like what things do 293 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: we need to change, uh in order to like, as communities, 294 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: be more resilient to this stuff, which you know has 295 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: less to do with soda, which again is not a necessity, 296 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: but more to do with figuring out how to anticipate 297 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: and endure supply line disruptions right absolutely, And and while 298 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm currently in soda, I have been in everything from 299 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: automotive too, I think as a or casket manufacturer, so 300 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: you know that. But when I can go through a 301 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: casket a week, you know, especially when you're driving your Yeah, 302 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: when I'm drunk driving in a boy right right through 303 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: a trailer park, I mean you're you're I mean, your 304 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: casket order has got to be through the roof. It is. 305 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: It is a lot a lot of people. Yeah, I 306 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: mean I I do actually wonder how fuck um I 307 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: mean like I do actually wonder how much like the 308 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: casket industry and something that has been affected by the 309 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: by like by the pandemic with the you know, an 310 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: influx of dead people, and how that's how how that's effective. 311 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Thinks That's something I've been wondering about, but I have 312 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: not actually spent time looking into. I can't speak to 313 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: the pandemic specifically. I quit. I quit the casket industry 314 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, but I do recall my boss, 315 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: the owner at the time, being very very upset that 316 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: Hurricane Katrina had a lower death toll than he anticipated, 317 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: because that's really she had over ordered the sheet metal 318 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: to make the caskets, and he was very piste off 319 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: about having all that extra stock because they were just society. Yes, 320 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: so that's that's good to hear. Yeah, great, he was 321 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: in a bad mood for like a month after Katrina 322 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: because it hadn't reached his expectation. Well, sure, that's a 323 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: real problem for for absolutely, he's got that's all the 324 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: sympathy critical support. That job was grim. I'm just gonna 325 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: say that that sounds like it. I have a through 326 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: a through a loved one, a connection to somebody who 327 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: is like works for a company that makes body bags 328 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: and was amazing for them. They did incredible in um. 329 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: I didn't hear any ghoulish stories. It's just like, yeah, 330 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: of course you guys made a bunch of extra money. 331 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: Sounds like that was great for you putting it. Putting 332 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: in a mental note to go through a bunch of 333 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: the campaign contributions of people who make body bags and 334 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: check if they're supporting anti mess Yes. Yeah, see if 335 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: big Corps got into this at all. Yeah, I mean, honestly, 336 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: the thing that the thing to do is, you know, 337 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of the stock market in general, 338 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: but next time, the next time that there's a pandemic, 339 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: find out which companies make body bags on the stock 340 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: market and invest in those as soon as as soon 341 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: as the pandemic starts. I mean, I can tell you 342 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: what I'm I'm putting money into big corps as soon 343 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: as uh as soon as the next pandemic hits. That's 344 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: absolutely gonna happen. Oh boy, all right, Yeah, that's gam Yeah, 345 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: I think it's fine. There's a reason why after after 346 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: I started working there, I immediately told my husband, Hey, 347 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: make sure if I die before you, I'm cremated. So yeah, 348 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to give these monsters any of my money. 349 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: What I what I'm looking into is just full full 350 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: body stuffing that people can pose me around it. But 351 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: that's a set for topic. Yeah, you talk about that 352 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: a lot, Garrison. What I did want to med ship 353 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: is like, actually, when you were talking about how they 354 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: hire in a lot of employees and they make them 355 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: were horrible hours and then they you know, they quitness 356 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: is kind of a constant kind of process and like 357 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: this isn't exclusive to that industry at all. Think one 358 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: of the worst defenders of this is actually the Postal Service. UM. 359 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: I think that the Postal Service has like the lowest 360 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: employee satisfaction out of any shipping company. Um And like my, my, 361 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: my fault. I worked for the Postal Service for a bit. 362 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: And when you first join up, you join as like 363 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: you join as a on like a non career employee path, 364 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: and then you can get promoted to a career employee 365 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: path after a few years. But the turnaround for the 366 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: non career employee paths is massive, Like local branches can 367 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: say after like people who start working at the Postal 368 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: Service will end up quitting within the year. Now that 369 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: number can be different based on nationally and for based 370 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: on like you know, based on what state you're in, 371 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: but but across the board, it's it's always around at 372 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: least fifty for employee turnaround for people who join up 373 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: the Postal Service on these like a city carrier assistant positions. 374 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: It's fascinating, yeah, because because when when you when you're 375 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: a non career employee path, you have to work seven 376 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: days a week and you can be called into work 377 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: basically any time, usually working around ten to twelve hour days. 378 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: All of the career employees all of the sounds but 379 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: like all of all of like all of like the 380 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: regular carriers get to work like their specific route and 381 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: that's it. That's their whole day. For the for the 382 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: people who are new to the job, they're forced to 383 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: work tons of routes um all in whenever someone else can't. 384 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: And we constantly be doing over time um and working 385 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: like basically NonStop NonStop with only like two like only 386 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: two holidays off a year or something. It's it's pretty intense, um, 387 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: which is why you know, when the postal service comes 388 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: have problems and because and and because there's so few, 389 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: there's generally not tons of employees. I mean like there 390 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: is lots like comparedively, like like like the Postal Service 391 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: is one of the bigger employers in the whole country. 392 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: But for people when when when employees drop off, filling 393 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: those positions can be really hard in times of like crisis. 394 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: So like you know, last year, when there's all these 395 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: problems with the Postal Service, all of these kind of 396 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: issues around the supply chain and how people treat their workers, 397 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: all of them like like you know, compound to create 398 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: one like much bigger problem which we saw last year 399 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: with the Postal Service and like late in like the 400 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: late summer um. So I just find it interesting how 401 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, these same issues around like how 402 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: we treat workers is adding on to this problem of 403 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: like supply chains and getting stuff delivered and all this 404 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And so what what I find interesting 405 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: there is so you're you know, talking about the employee issue, 406 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's sure. So I've been, uh the plant 407 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: I was working in, which is twenty minutes from my house, 408 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: closed down and now I'm working ninety miles away literally 409 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: an hour, and I am I am working four twelves 410 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: a week and I'm crashing at my parents house, which 411 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: they live about sixty miles away, so it's a little 412 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: bit better. Um. But also yeah, and my parents are 413 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: hard right evangelicals who do not agree with you know this, 414 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: so that's fun. But um, the plant that I was 415 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: in was a non union plant and the one I'm 416 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: in now is a Union plant. And one of the 417 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: things that I've noticed that's actually kind of different is 418 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: for once in the non union plant, things were actually 419 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: better because what we could do, what what what could 420 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: be done is, all right, we're all working seven days 421 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: a week. We have enough staffing that if nobody calls in, 422 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: we have one spare person who normally goes around and 423 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: gives aches and stuff like that. Well we could you know, 424 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: basically all take turns taking a day off during that 425 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: seven day week. At the Union plant that I'm at now, though, 426 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: it's all seniority based, so any time that they force 427 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: over time, they go from the bottom of the seniority 428 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: list on up. So the people the people who are 429 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: being forced into those which I described in the thread, 430 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: I think it was it was split off in the thread, 431 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: but the people who were being forced to stay over 432 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: four hours and then come in four hours early, where you, Oh, 433 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: you were working six to two. Now you're working, you know, 434 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: six to six, and then you're coming in at two 435 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: in the morning instead of six in the morning. The 436 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: next day. Are always the people who are the lowest 437 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: on the seniority list, which is same same thing with 438 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: the postal service. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's not there's 439 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: a number of different I mean I've heard that complaint 440 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: from a couple of different union gigs, um, and it's yeah, 441 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: it's a problem. Yeah, And it's that's why we get 442 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: these new people and they get trained up and now 443 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: they're trained and they're signed off, and then they immediately 444 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: go from because when you're training, you're not you can't 445 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: train on over time or whatever. But now it's oh, okay, 446 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: well now you're working every weekend. You're being forced over, 447 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: you're being forced in early, just NonStop. And so yeah, 448 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: they get trained for a month and then a month 449 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: after that they quit because they went from working a 450 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: relatively same amount to an absurd amount. We went fifty 451 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: eight days at one point without a day off. Yeah, 452 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: Like my dad went like almost i think like three 453 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: hundred days without with without a day off when he 454 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: started the postal service. A kind of funny thing is 455 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: like when you hear the Postal Service talking with this, 456 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: like from the in their own reports and on their 457 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: own website, what they find a problem with is not 458 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: not the turnaround in and of itself, but how they're 459 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: basically wasting money on trainings for people that don't end 460 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: up working. It's like that is their main concern, is 461 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: that they're spending all this money on training for people 462 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: that don't stick around often. Um, And like, yeah, well 463 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: maybe you should address why they don't stick around often. 464 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: That's that seems to be kind of the actual issue here. Yeah, 465 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: And what I've been pushing for, and I know this 466 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: is more on the labor side than on the on 467 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: the supply chain side that we were focusing on. I've 468 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: been pushing for instead of three shifts where we keep 469 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: just getting just hammered with this stuff, I want us 470 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: to do four shifts, twelve hour days and do like 471 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: a two on two off, three on three off type 472 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: swing shift where you have like one shift that works. 473 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: You know, you work three days one week, four days 474 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: the next week, and you work twelve hour days, but 475 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: really you wind up getting a bunch of days off, 476 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, like that's if you're gonna work seven days 477 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: a week, that's the best way to do it in 478 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: my opinion. Yeah, I mean, like you know, it's there's 479 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: a lot of resistance to well, well, then we have 480 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: to hire these extra people. Will you're hiring those people anyway, 481 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: and then they're quitting. I mean, like you're not even 482 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: getting your value out of them slave drivers. I mean, 483 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: like you said, this is more, this is more than 484 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: the labor side than the supply chain side. But honestly, 485 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: these are these are like the same side, right, because 486 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: if you don't have employee like this is you know, 487 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: this is a fundamental you know thing, and like how 488 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: capitalism works, right, you need to have you know, workers 489 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: to make there have be any value at all. Right, 490 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: So if there's if there isn't any people to working, 491 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: then there is no supply chain. It's gone. Because if 492 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: we need people to do it both on the production 493 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: side and both in like the transportation side, that's like 494 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: you know ups um usps, you know FedEx, you know, 495 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: so like the mail carriers and stuff is very important 496 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: to all of this because you you you need in 497 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: order to for for there to be a supply chain, 498 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: there needs to be the chain part right where you 499 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: carry it from one place to to another. So it's both, 500 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: it's both on the production side and on the transportation side. 501 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: For how all these problems you know? Yeah, and one 502 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: and one of the things that I in the replies 503 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: to my thread which I got into, was that, um, 504 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: part of the the only slack in Just in Time 505 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: manufacturing is employees. They've pulled all of the slack out 506 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: of the system on the mechanical side and on the 507 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: production side of it, on all the physical side. The 508 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: only slack left is people, and they have stretched us 509 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: all to the absolute breaking point. Now I'm lucky, relatively speaking, 510 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: in that I'm salary so like I'm more on the 511 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: inventory side of things, so I'm not doing the hourly production, 512 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: seven day a week thing. Like I said, I work 513 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: four twelves, UM. But I can still you know, and 514 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: that that's this job, every other previous job not the 515 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: same thing. But I can still see where they've taken out. 516 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: Like once again, we used to have spares on the 517 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: shelf so that when something broke down we could fix 518 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: the machine and keep running. Now instead of the spare, 519 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: the spare is people working weekends. That's the spare part. 520 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: And that makes total sense, right, You're you're the capitalist. 521 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: A better spare that is a part on the shelf 522 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: costs you money into terms of like you need to 523 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: have that space, that's extra rent you're paying you need 524 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: to have bought that part. Having your people just killed 525 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: themselves is much cheaper. You can sort of misuse the 526 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: marks here, right. Like one of Mark's things is like, okay, well, 527 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: you know you have you have this increased machinery. You 528 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: have this increased machinery, but that means you're producing less 529 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: value because you know, you've you put more people out 530 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: of work. Was like, okay, well, what if what if 531 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: we just we re extend the work day again and 532 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: sort of you know, reverse all of the gains that 533 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: have been happening, well okay, I say have been happening, 534 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: reverse all the gains that happened between about nineteen thirty 535 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: and like nineteen seventy, and just oh well, what if 536 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: we just make everyone for a twelve hour days again? 537 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: And that that was you know, one of that was 538 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: the thing that would struck me both listening to this 539 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: and reading the threat was that it's it's not even 540 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: just wages, it's just it's it's it's it's it's just 541 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: the fundamental power rebalance. And then it's a fundamental power 542 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: and balance. It's gotten so bad that even like you know, 543 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: the the like sometimes the remains of the union system, 544 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: it's like it's not even you know, like the unions 545 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: like in this picture case like this is they're not 546 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: even it's not even really helping. It's just creating, like 547 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: you have a small labor aristocracy that you have everyone 548 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: else could be getting just like ground down. In this case, 549 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: it's that we've got we've got a small core of 550 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: people who have been there twenty or thirty years. And 551 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: and whereas before, maybe even ten years ago, they might 552 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: have viewed the union as a vehicle to help everybody, 553 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: things have gotten so bad that now it's just okay, 554 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: I'm going to use this system as much as I 555 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: can to cover my own ass because things have gotten 556 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: so damn bad. And obviously, you know, Reagan destroying the 557 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: unions and stuff like that help with that. But yeah, 558 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: it's that I and I feel like the union in 559 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: my job could be very helpful, um, but it would 560 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: require certain people in it too. Instead of looking out 561 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: for just their own interest because hey, I've been here 562 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: twenty five years, so I'm in the clear. Like, actually, 563 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: go okay, maybe I should you know, sacrifice a little 564 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: bit of of that power or that privilege to help 565 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: the people who are just hiring in so that we 566 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: can keep them so that that this doesn't have to 567 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: keep happening. Yeah, And it's you know, this is one 568 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: of the things that has made the John Dear strike, 569 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: that made it so powerful, was these those older workers 570 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: who I mean that they had a tiered system, right, 571 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: So you have workers hired I think before like ninety 572 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: seven got a full pension, and then like after ninety 573 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: seven was like a third of that, and then workers 574 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: hired in the last couple of years weren't getting any 575 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: pension at all. And a big part of the strike 576 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: is like all of the workers saying that's not acceptable, um, 577 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: including the ones who had a full pension, who had 578 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: some of a pension, like saying that like the fact 579 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: that the newer people are getting screwed over isn't acceptable. 580 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: And I've heard different reasons for why that happened, because 581 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: this is this tactic what you're talking about, and kind 582 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: of like what happened to John dear. It was a 583 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: common tactic. You know. It's the thing we talked about 584 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: in colonialism all the time. You want to divide the 585 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: population against you know, each other, each other one way 586 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: or the other, give them like make make them feel 587 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: as if their interests are not necessarily aligned, you know. 588 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: So the people who um. And there's reasons. I've heard 589 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: different reasons for why John Deere was different, including the 590 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 1: idea that like a lot of these are family jobs, 591 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: so it was not people. It was people being like, well, 592 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: my kid's not going to get a pension, and that's bullshit. Um. Anyway, Yeah, 593 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: I just it's it's it's important to talk about like 594 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: that as a problem and also to highlight different strikes 595 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: where that seems to have been overcome by the workers, 596 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: like this fact that they were attempted to be played 597 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: against each other didn't really work out, and where in 598 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: my case it very much is like another another example 599 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: being so we'll have people who are are lower on 600 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: the seniority list, and like let's say, for example, one 601 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: weekend we're running lines three and five and not the 602 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: other two. Well, the the newer people might only know 603 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: stuff online four. But if the new people don't get 604 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: scheduled to do something, even if they're just being forced 605 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: in to sweep the floor. The people who have the 606 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: higher seniority will throw a fit saying, well, they're lower seniority, 607 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: why aren't they in here as opposed to well, because 608 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: they can't run that machine, and then they don't want 609 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: to train them to run that machine. It's it's very 610 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: they've managed to succeed where the John Deer capitalists might 611 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: have failed in making this all about like all right working. 612 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: And I don't blame the people who have the higher 613 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: seniority on this because if my you know, if if 614 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: you're working, conditions are hell and you have the option 615 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: of okay, well, on a short term scale, I can 616 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: screw over this other person and actually see my family 617 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: once in a while. Most people are gonna do it, 618 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: especially if that person is somebody who just hired in 619 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: that you don't know, we'll scare that guy. And that's where, 620 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: once again, if unions were stronger, if there was more 621 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: than what is it right now, like to three of 622 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: jobs or a union job, but unions have been so 623 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: like just weakened that this sort of situation is allowed 624 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: to happen. I guess you could say, and I think, yeah, 625 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: that comes back to just like the solute, The solution 626 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: to the supply chain problem isn't really a solute like 627 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not it's not a logistical solution. It's 628 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: not even really like a capital gained solution, like a 629 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 1: tax solution. The solution is that, you know, you have 630 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: to fundamentally change the balance of power between capital and labor. 631 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean that and that and that 632 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: that can be like you know, I think things will 633 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: get better if it's if it's more unions, but like 634 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: things are going to continue to suck until like the 635 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: capitalists ceased to exist as a class. Yeah, and I 636 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: think that's like that that's because yeah, that's always the 637 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: And it's one of those like we get we get 638 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: critiqued on the internets sometimes because I think people will say, like, well, 639 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, is your only solution to this? You keep 640 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: talking about like mutual aid and anarchism, and like I 641 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: just don't feel like that's a big scale solutions. Like yeah, 642 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: but the current system isn't going to work very well 643 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: on a big scale. Part of what we're always talking 644 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: about is like how to how to get your how 645 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: to get yourself and your people through the situation, because 646 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: that's also important. And it's the same thing with like 647 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: a union, right unionizing you and your fellow laborers and 648 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: your factory, or or making your union more effective and 649 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: more able to like advocate for everyone. That's not going 650 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: to fix the bigger problem. That's not going to deal 651 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: with the the issues that like, that's not going to 652 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: stop climate change, that's not going to stop supply line 653 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: crunches in a grand scale, it's not going to stop 654 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: creeping authoritarianism. But it can make life more bearable for 655 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: you and the people around you. And that's that's also 656 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: part of like getting by in a crumbling world. Absolutely, yeah, 657 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: And yep, it's it requires a bit of more foresight, 658 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: which I think was one of the other purposes behind 659 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: working as many hours as they do is when you're 660 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: so fucking tired all the time from working what you're working, 661 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: you don't have time to stop and think about the 662 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: larger implications of things. M hm and yeah, and that's 663 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: part of what they're going for. Yep. Yeah. So I 664 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: don't know anyone else get anything, well, I guess just 665 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: the clear solution of this is that I need to 666 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: just stuck up on Bang, right. I just need to 667 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 1: buy but I can because I love Bang. I. I 668 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: can't stop drinking Bang. I will. I'm scared of how 669 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: much Bag I drink. I will say. One of one 670 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: of the wonderful mutual aid solutions is if you're very, 671 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: very nice to the syrup mixing people, they will be 672 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: kind to you if you are working a double and 673 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: they will give you a shot of the energy drink 674 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: syrup before it's been mixed. Oh my god, oh boy, 675 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: you should not have told Garrison at a problem. Garrison's 676 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: going to quit his job podcasting just to be able 677 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: to get just gonna be shooting up energy drink here 678 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: on out. That's all I'm doing with my time. I'm 679 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm leaving, leaving the call right now, finding the nearest factory. 680 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: And my second day on the on the job in 681 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: the soda manufacturing thing, I had a twenty four pack 682 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: of energy drink explode all over me change of clothes, 683 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: and that's when I learned that caffeine and toriing can 684 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: soak through your skin. Oh yes, I mean basically was 685 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: seeing sound Okay, So i I've just been looking up 686 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: inflatable hot tubs. And I feel like if I could 687 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: order enough pure energy drink syrup in an inflatable hot tub, 688 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: I could build basically the equivalent of Baron Harconan's rejuvenation bath, 689 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: but with like pure bangs syrup. That is that is, 690 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: that is my plan. Just be twelve caffeine and Tori. 691 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be. We're all gonna quit our jobs. 692 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: We're just gonna have the same amount of money. They 693 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: get slower over time because we're again spending it all 694 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: on banks. The obviously you need you need the inside 695 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: person to supply you with the syrup. So we'll just 696 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: have sort of an Ocean's eleven situations where you guys 697 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: pull up to the loading dock and with a tanker 698 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: and I'm just hooking the truck up. You know, it's 699 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: gonna be like Scarface, but we're selling pure syrup. And 700 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: then Garrison loses his mind and winds up in a 701 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: machine gun fight in a mansion, and when instead of 702 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: burying his face into a mountain of cocaine, he's instead 703 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: got just a little He's just sticking his hand into 704 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: a bowl of syrup to absorb the caffeinated nutrients when 705 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: it's when I p it's just gonna be straight syrup. 706 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: Now that is yeah. Anyway, well that's the episode where 707 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: if people want to find you a lot, where can 708 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: they find you? So I host, along with my husband 709 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: and our friend Justin, we host a trans comedy and 710 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: pop culture podcast where we also interview interesting people. Um 711 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: it's called the Violet Wanderers. So you can find us 712 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: on Twitter at violet Wanderers or the Violet Wanderers dot 713 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 1: com or email the Violet wanders at gmail dot com. 714 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: And that's basically that's my Twitter handle. And I just 715 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: slowly got sucked into the Twitter hellscape where yeah that happens. 716 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: Originally one on just like oh, I'm gonna just promote 717 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: my show, and then I started responding to people and 718 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: before you know what, I'm writing twenty tweet rants about 719 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: just in time on my stupid gay podcast account. I 720 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: got into Twitter to converse with a Young Justice podcast 721 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: and that's why I created my Twitter accounts and here 722 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: I am now So I was trying to get a 723 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: planet side to beta key and I got it, but 724 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: the consequences were I am now here. Yeah, Twitter, Twitter, Twitter, 725 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: and it's consequences, disaster for your your this you're such 726 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: a child. I remember the first Planet Side Beta today, Chris. 727 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: It was an age and dreamed of Chris and you 728 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: all are welcome to come on the show anytime. I will. 729 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: I will bother you to come on my show sometime. Yeah. 730 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: Plugs plugs probably, Yeah. Like I said, the Violet Wanderers 731 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: were on Apple, were on Spotify, were on podcast Addict, whatever, 732 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, all your major podcast platforms. Uh. The tagline 733 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: of the show is made for no one, so um, 734 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: expect a lot of queer humor, a lot of me 735 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: calling my husband a slut, and us talking about video games, 736 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: comic books, movies, and then occasionally just randomly interviewing really 737 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: interesting people who I harassed in the coming on the show, 738 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: like which Robert I know? You know Daniel Harper from 739 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: I Don't Speak German. He's been on a few times. Um, 740 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: we've had him on and and had some fun talking 741 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: about Nazis, which themes kind of, you know, counterintuitive, but 742 00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of humor that can be found in 743 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: Nazis if you know the right places to look. And yeah, 744 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: I you know what, I just watched a German language 745 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: movie about Hitler that was made in two thousand seven 746 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: by a Jewish German comedian that includes I've watched a 747 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: lot of Hitler movies, you know, periodically, I just get 748 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: on Netflix and Hulu type and Hitler just kind of 749 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: watch whatever is there. This is the first time I 750 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: have seen Hitler fucking in a movie. I've never seen 751 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: anybody who had the courage to do that. And he 752 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: is just yeah, he's it's it's uncoming as one ball 753 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: just swinging in the land. It is. It is an 754 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: uncomfortable scene, but not the most uncomfortable scene in that 755 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: particular movie. Um, it's quite a film that's doesn't say, 756 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: that's pretty amazing. But yeah, come on, come on sometime 757 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: we'll play around vin Selmageddon, which is a game that 758 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: I've created, and uh, you know, if you guys don't 759 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: want to kill yourselves afterwards, then hey, you survived the game. 760 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: As long as I can get some syrup out of 761 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: the deal, that's that's all I want. I will, I will, 762 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: I will smuggle use some syrup out and mail it 763 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: to you. Okay, alright, well that's that's gonna do it 764 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: for all of us here today that it could Happen Here. 765 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: Until next time, I don't know, Go go read, Go 766 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: read The Dawn of Everything. It's good, it's worth reading. 767 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: Check it out. It could Happen Here is a production 768 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: of cool Zone Media. For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, 769 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: visit our website cool zone media dot com, or check 770 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: us out on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 771 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can find sources 772 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: for It could Happen Here, updated monthly at cool zone 773 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: media dot com slash sources. Thanks for listening.