1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goals Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dailly here with Matt wins in 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Week two of the NFL is in the books, heading 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: on to week three, Head on to week three. Things 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: happen pretty quick. And we've got a game what two 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: days from now? And you know Steelers are gonna be 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: back at it here preparing for the Bengals, of course. 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: And do you move on? Yeah, yeah, things happen quickly. 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: This is what people you know, the NFL season move 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: so fast. Uh, you get three practices a week to 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: get ready for your next game. It sounds like seven games, 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: but they're seven days. But and it is. But it's 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: really essentially to lead us to the next topic here, 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: like the first two days of that our players getting health, 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: like very healthy and treatment and resting their body, resting 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: their bodies. Yeah, absolutely, obviously you know where you're going 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: with that, because there's a lot of talk about in 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: that front. Absolutely is Mike Tomlin having his press conference 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: today revealing that, in addition to the injuries that we 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: already knew about, Ben Roethlisberger, dealing with a left pectoral 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: muscle injury and Alex Highsmith now listed with a groin 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: injury as well. So that the groin injuries is you know, 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: it's funny, um, and sometimes you'll have a rash of 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: injuries like this at one. It's funny when it's not 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: your growing, Yeah, when it's not you. But I had 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: somebody comment on my story. I wrote about this obviously 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: on the d K Pittsburgh Sports and one of the 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: comments was, the Steelers have more of these groin injuries 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: than any other team historically. I'm like, what that one? Right? Yeah? 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: I actually they blamed Hines Field and all this. I'm like, no, 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: that's they're not conditioned well enough. P J didn't work 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: hard enough in the preseason, and you know, come on, 34 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: it's just an odd coincidence. It's it's a yeah, exactly, 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: it's a coincidence. You know, it seems you know, it 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: could have just have easily been hamstrings or it could 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: have been It's like when you know a few years 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: ago when all the defensive lineman it was this was 39 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: around the league. We're suffering, suffering like bicep injuries. Yeah, 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, it just happens. I am a small believer. 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't like talking injuries because I know I don't know, 42 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: but I do think there's more strains and pools and 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, things like that early in the season with 44 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: the heat, you know, hydration and things like that are 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: a bigger deal. And they're not quite as in good 46 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: football shape as they are on Week ten and things 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: like that. But it's no different than any other team 48 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: or any other year. Yeah, I've been I've been asked. 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the the Raiders injury report last 50 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: week had nineteen guys on it, right, right, and now 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: they didn't all miss time. And I would expect um 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: that some of the Steeler injuries, the guys who are 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: hurt are going to play. I mean, it's early, earlier 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: in the week, and we'll see how it goes over 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: the course of the we Like I would expect Ben 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger to play. I mean, I guess it's better it's 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: his left than his right. It's a it'll be a 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: pain tolerance, and obviously, I mean, I'm sure throwing a 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: football probably won't feel good early in a week with 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: a pricking your body and you know, getting your shoulders 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: around and you know, even swivel in your hips. I 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: mean that's a big muscle. I mean your packtoral muscles 63 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: a big muscle. But once you get into the game 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: play like you know, I played sports and I did. 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Once you get yeah, you might be a little stiff, 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: you know, when you're limbering up for the game and stuff. 67 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: But once you get out time, you get out there 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: and you start playing, you forget about all that stuff 69 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: and then it comes and gets you later. Yeah, the 70 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: next day you're you're hurting again. Yeah, that's part of 71 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: being a thirty nine year old quarterback too. So who 72 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: are we looking at now? Then it's a pretty good list. 73 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: So you got the growing list which will be the 74 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: crew here high Smith, Hayden and whom I'm missing Bush? 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: To me, I think Bush might be the most serious one. 76 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Um like Joe Hayden went out and warm ups on 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: Sunday and try to test it out. So he was 78 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: considering it. They were, Yeah, they're at least giving him 79 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: a chance to play. I would expect that he probably 80 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: at least gets a chance to do so again Sunday 81 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: against the Bengals. We'll see. I saw T J. Watt today, 82 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: so This is the thing about growing injuries that that's 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: kind of tricky. They don't hurt you when you're just 84 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: walking around. It's when you start trying to cut or 85 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, trying to you know, explode, you know, any 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: kind of explosive movement. Is it more of a lateral thing? Yeah, okay, yeah, 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: you know that's when you feel at the most. So 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, I don't know whether he you know, 89 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: felt something catching there in the game on Sunday or 90 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: if he felt an actual oh or something popped. There's 91 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: a difference difference. O um. Again, hard thing to comment on. 92 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like it's a broken bone, six 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: week boom, put a cast on it, that type of deal. 94 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: Some of them heal quicker than others, I'm sure, of course, 95 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of different treatments for it, none of 96 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: which I know. Again, you know, sometimes you see guys 97 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: return in a week, sometimes it's three or four, and 98 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: they linger a little bit. And that's what things like 99 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: comment on to I had to comment, like, you know, 100 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: the old time Steelers they did they didn't have these things. 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah they did, Yeah, they did. They call them something different. 102 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: There wasn't Twitter the injury reports were different, right, I mean, 103 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: the groins aren't new. No, everybody's sitting time. It's actually 104 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: if you pretty much every athlete um has some kind 105 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: of little tear in their growing um. That's just the 106 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: reality of you know, your body is not Yeah, he's 107 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: not meant to do some of the things that you're 108 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: that you do with these things, you're not meant. Bodies 109 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: aren't meant to run into each other at high speeds 110 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: on a consistent basis, or lean on a you know, 111 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: try to get gain the edge on a three pounder, 112 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: things of that nature. Saying, I mean, it's probably like 113 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: when you find you know, cadavers from the ice age 114 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: and you know, if you if you look at football 115 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: players and be like, what do autopsies after the fact, 116 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: Like this guy looked like he was from you know, 117 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: back whenever you to fight saber tooth tigers. You know. Yeah, right, Um, 118 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: So yet those four guys, so you're not predicting any 119 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: of these guys playing or not yet. Ye, Friday will 120 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: be the big day because I wouldn't expect any of 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 1: them to get back on the football field until Friday 122 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: at the earliest. Mike Tomlin again reiterating his his typical 123 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: stance on that uh, saying, you know, look veteran guys, 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: and they're all veteran, even high Smith has has played 125 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: some snaps. Um, they're all guys who could perhaps play 126 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: Sunday without having any practice time. I mean they enough. 127 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean if Bush is fine or Hayden fine, they're 128 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: playing them without practice time against there's a common opponent 129 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: to this. This is somebody they play two times a year. 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: It's not like, oh hey, I don't know this. You 131 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: know they're not playing the Rams, but conceivably we know 132 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna be without two and a Lulu. They could 133 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: be without Watton, high Smith, in Bush and Hayden, I 134 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: missing anyone else on D No. I think that's pretty 135 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: much it's about it. So, I mean that's kind of 136 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: what they dealt seriously. But it's it's four fifths of 137 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: your front five, which which was the best in the 138 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: league exactly, and you know Bush's makes with the front seven, 139 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: which it's really strong too. So obviously this is worrisome. 140 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, no matter who you're playing, I will say. 141 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: And Mike Tomman brought up the point that that I 142 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: made um last week that I guess Sunday. Actually that 143 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: when these kind of injuries happen and you know about them, 144 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: like it's it's it's easier for a team to deal 145 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: with this. It's the Raiders Steeler example. In preparation, at 146 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: least you can prepare less. Ackle is gonna be bad. 147 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna pass protect accordingly. Yeah, you know you lose 148 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Hayden and Bush on Friday. Yeah, the Hayes already in 149 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: the barn in terms of preparation. Oh yeah, all the 150 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: tape works done, all the game plans. Those guys get hurt. Yeah, 151 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: they get hurt and practice. It's not like you you 152 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: bring everybody back. Hey, guys, we gotta come back and practice, 153 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, twice on Saturday because we have we gotta 154 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: change that. We gotta change the game plan. You have 155 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: a walkthrough. No, no, that's a good point. And then 156 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: of course you lose people in the game. It's hard. 157 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: It's hard because you've already made your you're lying or 158 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: your roster is what it is at that point. On Sunday, 159 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: you can't, Hey, can we bring that up the practice squad. 160 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: We're down a linebacker right now, and no one's making excuses. 161 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: These are just the way it goes. I mean, it 162 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: wasn't like the Raiders. We're super fortunate to not have 163 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: Incognito and good and Jacobs. You know, right, it wasn't 164 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: like but they knew they at least they came planned accordingly. 165 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: And you would imagine the Steelers on defense weren't gonna 166 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: blitz a ton. You know, we're gonna play a lot 167 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: of zone. We're gonna dedicate extra resources to Waller with 168 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: the assumption that they have a real good match up 169 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: with four rush is gonna get there right then lots 170 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: of a lot better and their right tackle too, so 171 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: you know it'll be easier to double Waller when they 172 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: keep an extra tight ending on the right side or 173 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: the back in there. And you know, and then all 174 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden they don't do that. People say, well, 175 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, they lost Leatherwood in the game to him, 176 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: like that might have been because of I forget who 177 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: replaced him. But he played better than Leatherwood. He may 178 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: have got your challenge. He may have gotten pulled from 179 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: for cause. Yeah, he might be just fine. You give 180 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: up a sack and two penalties, what only played sixteen snaps. 181 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's not like he was like two penalties 182 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: in a sack in sixteen snaps against No, it's not 183 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: like Inger the walk in the park either, but still, 184 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: I mean Leatherwood was really bad and he um so 185 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, I it changes. You know, I heard got 186 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: the the well the Steelers didn't adjusted in the second half. 187 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: We have they did. They started blitzing because they realized 188 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: they couldn't get there with their front four because they 189 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: didn't because they didn't have their front differentis and they 190 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: planned on of course, and every coach is dealt with 191 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: these things. I mean, this isn't a unique problem to 192 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: Sunday a couple of days ago in hindes Field. People 193 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: lose people during the games all the time. But still 194 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: it absolutely makes it more difficult, I mean very difficult. 195 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: And I thought the Racers played great. You can't. That's 196 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: the thing. No one ever wants to give credit to 197 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: Nobody never wants to give credit to the other team. 198 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: Like Derek Carr, we just you know, we just hit 199 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: the two touchdown passes he through we're really good throws. 200 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean he's been great all year. He's been a 201 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: really good player. And we just say in college, like 202 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: the other guys are in a scholarship too, you know, right, 203 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, I mean like it's there's not a lot 204 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: of room for error here. It's the NFL. You know 205 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: you're not playing you know McNeese state here, right, you 206 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: can't roll out your twos and be fine. It's a 207 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: wonderful institution. But Deonte any thoughts on him? Uh, Tomlin 208 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: said he is doing better, good, but not great. I mean, 209 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure I was like everybody else watch on TV 210 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: go and this does not look good. I mean to me, 211 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: it was scary just the way he reacted and all that. 212 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: At the end of the game. I was like, oh, man, yeah, 213 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: insult to injury or injury to insult in this case. 214 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: But that's promising, I guess. Yeah, we'll see. And in 215 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: some ways, if Deante Johnson we're not able to play 216 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: this week, I don't know that that would be the 217 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: worst thing of the world of guys of quality, high quality, 218 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: obvious starters to lose. I think I know what you're 219 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: doing with this. I don't know how to percent disagree. 220 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: It's not that he doesn't deserve all these targets. He's 221 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: really good, yeah, but he's not a b Well, here's 222 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: the things here's the other thing about it, because I 223 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: keep getting getting asked questions about Derek Watt about, you know, 224 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: the use of the fullback, the use of more tight ends, 225 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: and I keep saying, who are you taking off the field? Well, 226 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: that's the problem. You gotta take one of those. You 227 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: gotta take one of those wide receivers off the field 228 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: to bring Derek Watt into the game. You gotta take 229 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: if you're gonna use both tight ends at the same time, 230 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: you gotta take one of those wide receivers off the field. 231 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: If you're gonna use what and two tight ends, you 232 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: gotta take two of those receivers off the two good 233 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: players on the sideline, right, And there's absolutely value to 234 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: rotating your your personnel and doing that. Come to think 235 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: of it, the Bengals they really only play with twelve 236 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: guys on offense. They really do very little substitution, but 237 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: they don't have as good two of those two of 238 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: those guys who are going out in pass patterns will 239 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: get three targets in the game. You're talking about, like 240 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: sample and yeah, the ancillary guys all through their three 241 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: main receivers, are they three guys that catch and the 242 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: only ones that really touch the ball, right, I mean really, 243 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: he gets all the touches too, So it's not necessarily 244 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: a bad strategy to live with, you know, just a 245 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: handful of guys if they're clearly better. But if you 246 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: can throw more at people, it's certainly valuable. And I 247 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: almost feel like Watt's kind of a moot conversation. Don't 248 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: you feel like he really in this stage isn't much 249 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: different than cassiem oz Good or Slaters kids, Jackie Slaters. 250 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a special teamer that can play fullback. 251 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: But he's here because the special teams largely, but they 252 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: could do They showed a lot of stuff with him 253 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: in training camp and throughout the off season that okay, 254 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: maybe they start to use this as a weapon, um, 255 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: but it's tough to do that when well, if we 256 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: take you know, we bring him into the game, we 257 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: gotta take Chase Claypool out. Or if you put him 258 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: in the game, we gotta here. Here's the thing, I 259 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: think Friar Muth is demanding more snaps. If you take 260 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool off the field, you're doing the defensive favor 261 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: because now you've taken the big deep threat off the field. 262 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: If you take Deante Johnson off the field to put 263 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: one of those guys, and you're taking your your one, 264 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: your your best guy beating man defense. Yeah, I mean 265 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: you're highly took me the most targeted player by a 266 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: long If you take Juju off the field, you're taking 267 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: your best blocking receiver off the field and your outlet, 268 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, your safety valve with you can't take any 269 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: of those guys off the field. So okay, So they're 270 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: all better than what. They're all better offensive weapons than what, 271 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: by far the defense would much rather see you put 272 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: what on the field. I think they have those three 273 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: receivers on the field. I mean there's one of the 274 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: keys to that sort of thing too, is if you 275 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: put them out there on the first series and they're 276 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: still gonna stay in nickel or whatever. Okay, well now 277 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: we have a big guy advantage in the blocking world, 278 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: and okay, we're gonna stick with that just because we 279 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: like what they have on the field, not not necessarily 280 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: us putting our best players on the field. The one 281 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: thing I want to mention though, is I know what 282 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: hasn't factored in and and frankly, he's small potatoes. I mean, 283 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: he's an interesting player that can maybe do some use 284 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: checks things, not quite as well as use check but okay, um, 285 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: but they haven't playing tight ends. It's not like Gentry 286 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: has played a lot more snaps. I bet that most 287 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: people listening to realize he's been part of the game plan. 288 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: And friar Muth and Ebron have both played around snaps 289 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: each game too. So the tight ends are seeing the field, 290 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: all three of them. And actually, and they actually got 291 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: six targets last week. Yeah right, I mean, it's not 292 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: like they weren't being used. If that was one guy 293 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: getting six targets, you go all, they're using tight end. 294 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: But since it's spread out a little bit more right, right, exactly? 295 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's I don't know, someone's established hunter, 296 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: Henry was your tight end. He got six targets, but 297 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: exactly so, I don't know. I mean, clearly they're searching 298 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: on that side of the ball, and there isn't an 299 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: obvious answer, and none of us have an obvious answer, 300 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: and it's gonna take time. It's not gonna I don't 301 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: think Sunday you're gonna look at like, oh, they figured 302 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: out everything on offense. To your point about what happens 303 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: when you bring the fullback onto the field, how is 304 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: the defense going to adjust? Well, they're probably gonna put 305 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: a lot more big comes on. You're already having issues 306 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: running the football, right right right. Adding another run stopper 307 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: to the equation is not going to help you run 308 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: the football, not when you're struggling as as much as 309 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: you are to You know, one other thing I wanted 310 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: to know too, And I'm not making excuses for the Steelers, 311 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: but when we look back on it, I mean, through 312 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: two weeks, they may have played two pretty good defenses. 313 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: They might very well have. Buffalo's defense was awesome. They 314 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: had six sacks in Miami and pitched the shutout pitch 315 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: to shut out and really controlled that. You could say, well, 316 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: they knocked the quarterback out of the game. Jacobe Brissett 317 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: might be the number might be the number one backup 318 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: in your league, right right. I mean, the defense top 319 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: to bottom owned that game for Buffalo. And I've kind 320 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: of laughed at the Raiders defense, but they did a 321 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: lot better against the Ravens than the Chiefs did, and 322 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: they did pretty well against Steelers. So yes, this you 323 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: can't just look at it through a black and gold lenses. 324 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: All the time and be like, well, this offense stinks. 325 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: They can't do anything. We might look back at the 326 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: end of the year and be like, Wow, the Raiders, 327 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: they've gotten a lot better. And the one thing that 328 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: still have to be with the Raiders the they don't 329 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: have holes anymore. They used to have three holes, like 330 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: we go that guy that got I mean, now they 331 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: may not have stars or household names, but they at 332 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: least field eleven dudes that aren't liabilities. I would have 333 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: liked to have seen the Steelers maybe attacked the middle 334 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: of the field a problem for a year and a 335 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: half two because Denzel Perriman was and if there was 336 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: a hole there to be exploited, it was. It was 337 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Denzel Perriman, an inside linebacker. And I'd like to challenge 338 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: kJ right. I mean, he's been great in his career, 339 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: but is he still I don't know. Now. I think 340 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: if somebody could attack. You know, we did see some 341 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: usage there by you know, you saw Nausea Harris catch 342 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: four passes. You saw Firemouth catch for maybe it's five 343 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: passes four passes from Pat f Ironmouth. So they did 344 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: attack that a little bit, but not with any depth 345 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: to it. It was all kind of shorter stuff. I 346 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: feel like that could sort of be the answer. I mean, 347 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: to me, the first problem they have to solve is 348 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: throwing the ball to I always keep saying more blades 349 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: of grass, you know, I mean attacking all levels of 350 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: the field with without predictability, and just showing these guys 351 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: that you can linebacker depth in deeper, you know, and 352 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: throw over linebackers heads in front of safetyes, crossing routes. 353 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: And I think Juju would be fine with that too. 354 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean, sit down like he is now, but ten 355 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: years or ten yards further down the field, not two 356 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: yards of yards exactly exactly. And I do think the 357 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: tight ends are very adept at doing it. You don't 358 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: have to protect that long. I'm not talking about fifty 359 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: yard bombs away after you know, seven step drop after 360 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: seven step drop. You got to back those guys off 361 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I also think, you know, throwing 362 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: to Harris play action and then throwing the ball to 363 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: Harris helps slow down the guy's attacking the line of 364 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: scrimmage as well your your offensive line that question, because 365 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, those linebackers aren't just 366 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: consistently crashing the line of scrimmage when you when you 367 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: fake the hand off to the running back, because now 368 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the running back, well, we can't 369 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: let him get behind us, because if he starts running 370 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: through our secondary, that's an issue. I think we both 371 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: agree on this. I mean, you watched every practice. I 372 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: think they're just scratching the surface of what he could 373 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: be as a receiver. You know, I mean in terms 374 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: of I think leave bell or you know, even catching 375 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: bad balls over his head and contorting. He's gonna put 376 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: a highlight tape together of catches and rout that is 377 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: yet to be seen. Yeah, it's it's going to continue 378 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: to grow. And that's the one thing that Tomlin said 379 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: today is like, this is this is a running back 380 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: who's played eight quarters of real football. Um, you know, 381 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: you could they could get him as prep prepared as 382 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: they could in the preseason, but the reality is it 383 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: was still preseason. And I have it somewhere here, but 384 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: they played a lot of rookie snaps over to two games. 385 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: In general, two it's right around like two or fifty 386 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: snaps a game have gone to rookies. Both games are 387 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: about equal, you know, the first two games are gonna 388 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: be tough. I mean, Jack Wilson's not playing some great 389 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrences and playing so great. You know, the top 390 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: drafted rookies, you know what I mean, they're all struggling. Yeah, 391 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: I would agree. Um. Tomlin was asked if if he's 392 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: considering making any offensive line changes people. I don't. I 393 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: don't know who you expect him to put in there. 394 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: It's funny. My dad came over today and he's a 395 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: big talk radio guys probably listening now, Hey Dad, and 396 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know what's up with this town. 397 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: He's like everyone every station I listened to or every 398 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: talk show I and too, except for you guys. I 399 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: think that Zach Banner's gonna come in and just save 400 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: the world. That this guy is. He's like Zach White, 401 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: and my Dad's like, Zak might be fine, but what 402 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: does he ever showed us? Do we think he's like 403 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: he could come in a white horse and he could 404 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: come in the best right tackle in football? Right, right, 405 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: You're still gonna have issue. No, not at all that, Anthony. 406 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: But one guy isn't isn't fix more than one problem. 407 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: It's not just boy. We've been talking about this too. 408 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: Boy Chukes thinks he's he's the one in stealer Nation's 409 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: doghouse right now, Bud, spend some time there, Edmonds, and 410 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: spend some time there, and all of a sudden, you 411 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: can't do right if you're that guy until you turn 412 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: into Bud the preed laking career. And I'm not saying 413 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: Chukes is good or great or whatever, but he's not 414 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: noticeably worse than the other four, you know, but they'll 415 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: show the one low light. You know, that's I saw 416 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: it up put out there yesterday. Max Crosby ran him over. 417 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: And you know, Max Crosby's good football player, probably to 418 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: go to a Pro Bowl or two in the next 419 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: couple of years. And he's that's a mismatch in the 420 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: raiders favor. It's not okay, you know. I mean, Tuts 421 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: is far from a perfect player, but he's far from 422 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's the weak link though either. 423 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: You know, that's just him and oh my god, you 424 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: know these he can't play, and you know, like you 425 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: talked about the injured guys, I wouldn't mind adding a 426 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: little McFarland to the mix. I'd really like to see 427 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: some to it in the defensive mix, considering the injuries 428 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: make a big difference. That's a guy coming in on 429 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: a white horse to save the world. Banner might be better. 430 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's their best right tackle, 431 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean he's an unknown to me. I mean, 432 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: it's one more option. Fine, but I don't think the 433 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: line problems are going to be solved in the next 434 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: week or two. And there's nobody's sitting out there waiting 435 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: to be there. Aren't you know offensive lineman who aren't 436 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: in the league right now waiting to be signed. It's 437 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: just watch some games around the league. Watch this Bengals 438 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: team this weekend. I mean, my Ami, we talked about Buffalo. 439 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: We thought Steelers had a tough time against Buffalo's front 440 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Miami guard. They were storming the castle in Miami. In 441 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: Miami totally owned it. Yeah. In again, you know, in 442 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: a game in Miami's home stadium. Um, you know, to 443 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: me the fact that and if you look, I looked 444 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: at the next gen stats on Roethlisberger. The Raiders fastest 445 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: sack in that game was like four and a half seconds. 446 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: I didn't they were coverage sacks. They were coverage. He's 447 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: been taking some hits, but I haven't thought the protection. 448 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: You don't just seeing guys get whipped left and right. 449 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's not great again, I mean collectively, it's 450 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: not fantastic. And there's no star power up front right now. 451 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: But you're right, it's not like there's no chance for 452 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: offense to develop because he's getting hit with you know, 453 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: two seconds, two point five seconds. You know, they just 454 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: gotta I think it's on on Canada a little bit too. 455 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 1: Create some plays here that you know, again, when he 456 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: was when he was hired for this job, all he's 457 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: gonna be all creative and he's gonna do all this stuff. 458 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: And we've seen some of that drifted away from in 459 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: the second half. But right, a lot of throws from 460 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: shotguns still, a lot of r p O s, a 461 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: lot of quick hitting throws, A lot of the deep 462 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: shots are similar in nature. Do you look at the 463 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: do you look at the the as you said yesterday, 464 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: the hot charts, and I looked at him, Yeah, I 465 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: bet they're similar to the middle of the field. Anything 466 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: past ten yards in the middle of field is completely ignored. 467 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: A lot of green that that doesn't have the red. Now, 468 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: maybe that's the quarterback. Oh, it absolutely could be. It's 469 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: easy to blame coaches, it's easy to blame um protection. 470 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: All those things could be true. Or Ben's not comfortable 471 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: holding the ball or doesn't throw the ball as well 472 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: as he used to. I mean, it's a long enough 473 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: trend that teams tell you what they think of their players, 474 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: whether it's protection or quarterback. I know it's not the 475 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: pass catchers, right, That's the one thing I am. I'll 476 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 1: say this too. I was I was listening to uh 477 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: to some serious this morning, and Charlie Weiss was on, 478 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: and they're just praising up and down Daniel uh or 479 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: not Daniel Jones, Um, Matt Jones. Okay, you know, oh 480 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: he you know, he twenty two of whatever. Yeah, he was. 481 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: He didn't make the big mistake. Keys. He's just dumping 482 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: it off and throwing the ball where he's That's what 483 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is being killed for. He's getting the ball out 484 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: of his hands quickly and he's just getting it to 485 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: his playmate. You know. Yeah, tons of bad pass mac 486 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: Jones is being lauded for doing this. Roethlisberger is being 487 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: killed for. Well, the Patriots can run the ball and 488 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: they have an offensive line, it helps, Yeah, going hand 489 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: in hand. Mac Jones has been impressive, but more his 490 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: poison looking like he belongs than what he's actually performing 491 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: on the field. This past week, his average depth of 492 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: target was historically low. It was like two point five. 493 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it was unbelievably low and it didn't have 494 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: to be anymore, so that why act him? But you know, 495 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: if Ben would have been doing that, that that they wouldn't 496 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: scored a point I mean, and it would be plaster 497 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: all over over Twitter. He's done. He can't throw the 498 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: football ball, you know, that's all that stuff. I mean, 499 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: he still might throw the ball better. Mac Jones, Which 500 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: one would you rather have starting for your team right now? 501 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Right right? I'm not not five years from to win 502 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: one game against the Bengals. On Sunday you asked, you 503 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: asked Belichick, which quarterback would you rather have right now 504 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: to win next week in whoever, whenever their next year, whenever, 505 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: whenever they when they play the Bills? Who which one 506 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: would you rather have? Yeah? Now, But it's a good 507 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: point on Jones, you know, I mean, he's really game 508 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: managing to no end, and which is good, I mean 509 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback that's passing the test and but 510 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: he's taken no chances none. How about this old guy's 511 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: quarterback stat I found today too, Only Andy Dalton is 512 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: attempting passes twenty yards down field or less or more 513 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: than than Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan is just everything is 514 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: where's the Matt Ryan hate on that? Right? And I 515 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: might seeing any of that? That was last year. He 516 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: was the same guy last year. Like, it's just he 517 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: might be done and the making it worse. The Falcons 518 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: have never had a lead all year, so they're always 519 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: got a bad defense and bad defense. So even if 520 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: it's not the right move, if you gotta push the 521 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: ball down, you know, by the way, they had an 522 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: opportunity this year to draft a quarterback. I think they're 523 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: gonna have another one and didn't do it. Yeah, I 524 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: think they're gonna have another one. Yeah. I bet they're 525 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: picking the top five there close to it. And there's 526 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: some really bad teams. There are some really bad teams, 527 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: and we will talk about that next. We're gonna go 528 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: through its power ranking day. We'll do that. Yeah, let's 529 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: let's do that right after this. 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