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Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, you're in

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Speaker 2: Taylor hit Buddy Counts.

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Speaker 3: End of the end zone, touchdown, ind Why.

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Speaker 4: How can we like you mentioned as Pillars, as guys

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Speaker 5: How can we turn that around?

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Speaker 2: Play action? Now he's in trouble and he's going to

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Speaker 4: Never quit, I never know fault, I never not compete,

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Speaker 4: and I will always the team to be a great,

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Speaker 2: And now he checks it down left side looking for

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Speaker 2: Nine more days, nine more days like the longest?

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Speaker 4: Does this feel like just the longest off season build

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Speaker 6: It just feels like it's been so extensive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nine days away, but it feels like it's like

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Speaker 2: Really, It's like Ferris Bueller nine more days. The hypotheticals

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Speaker 2: And it's coming. The sun is starting to rise over

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Speaker 2: with that of mind, well, what is the pre draft topic?

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Speaker 2: you're going to be excited? Is in the rear view mirror.

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Speaker 4: I think all of the conjecture on moving up, moving back,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back the former head coach of the Colts. He's

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Speaker 2: the eleventh annual Chuck Strong Gala Gala. Do you guys

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're kind of split here. We got this

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Speaker 2: I always said gala, correct Gala.

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Speaker 3: No, Chuck's Strong the wrong guy to talk to you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you only have right, You only have to have

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Speaker 3: But I kind of game this out just for fun,

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Speaker 6: You would do if you'd move back right to that.

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Speaker 3: Same I got to. I got to eight contingency plans

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Speaker 2: Yes, right now, and we all think that's Bryce Young

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Speaker 3: People right now. That still could change, but right now

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Speaker 3: So in I think six of these scenarios I gamed out,

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Speaker 3: To me, the draft starts at Houston with what they do.

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Speaker 3: And if you believe a lot of the chatter out there,

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Speaker 6: I'm with you here, Houston.

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Speaker 3: But they could take a quarterback at twelve, so they

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Speaker 3: If Houston goes off their draft board and they're like, okay,

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Speaker 3: we have say Tyree Wilson from Texas Tech sticking out.

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Speaker 3: Why would you not take Tyree Wilson If you think,

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Speaker 3: You could still maneuver in this year's draft, or you

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Speaker 3: they are not a definite need to get a quarterback team.

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Speaker 3: You just have a you have a first year defensive

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Speaker 3: then you take that guy. Quarterback becomes the deciding the tiebreaker.

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Speaker 2: there's one more quarterback that's available to us that we

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Speaker 2: the Colts would have to have that competitive trade package,

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Speaker 2: That contingency plan needs to be pre planned. That's another

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Speaker 2: contingency pre plan. Yep, your package offer for a trade,

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Speaker 2: That to me is the biggest contingency plan the Colts

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Speaker 3: Through right, and and you're absolutely right about pre planning this.

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Speaker 3: No team, no team that is operating properly, is going

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Speaker 3: So Arizona and Arizona's probably having these discussions already. They're

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Speaker 3: probably calling up the Colts, the Raiders, the Falcons, the Titans,

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Speaker 3: They're probably calling that Mantiasin's for It's probably like, all right,

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Speaker 3: oh man, we got compies. I can't believe that happens.

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Speaker 3: The Titans actually don't make me nervous. No, if Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm saying in terms of moving up to that position,

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Speaker 4: saying they make me nervous. Is I do think that

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Speaker 6: That's what they make.

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Speaker 3: This is why I don't This is why they don't

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Speaker 3: Tennessee and you take if you trade up to get him. Now,

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Speaker 3: you can still address some of those needs later in

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Speaker 3: didn't think he was going to be there. Let's go

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Speaker 3: get him, right, Let's figure out the rest later that

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Speaker 3: I could see that happening. But I just first year

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Speaker 3: to me, all that chatter about Tennessee potentially moving up

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Speaker 2: So that report from ESPN last week, there's six teams

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Speaker 2: You don't think what is.

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Speaker 3: Flirting with really mean? Does that mean we've made one

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Speaker 3: you know, Texas, you texted him after that was fun

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe we'll do this again sometimes let's split

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Speaker 3: We're onto a you know, second or third date now

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Speaker 3: and this is getting a little more serious.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys watch that dating show that aired like

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Speaker 6: Watching my dorm room Foster Harper shut out Terrible. You know,

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Speaker 6: I do you remember that terrible show?

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Speaker 6: What was that?

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Speaker 2: It was like a TMZ type show, but for sure

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Speaker 4: I don't know, because I don't think it's set where

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Speaker 2: That just in yes or no. Cardinals trade to pick Yes? No,

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Speaker 2: I think they trade the pick.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they do.

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Speaker 3: I that the more I'm and maybe I'm just getting

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Speaker 3: Hooker going before Will Levis this week. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: we really want to go trade a future first when

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Speaker 3: we already traded a future first last year for Devontae

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go up and now we're gonna burn another

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Speaker 3: I think Arizona's going to have a harder time trading

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Speaker 2: because you have so many quarterback desperate, needy teams that

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Speaker 2: Just plenty more draft busts than there are draft hits.

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Speaker 2: But that's what happens. Quarterbacks get thrusted up the board,

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, real quick, who do you think is the

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Speaker 2: Where are they at where they are at nineteen and

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Speaker 3: It would take a lot, a bad bunch. The Baker

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Speaker 3: lot there, and they're in a position where they need

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Speaker 3: a they need to have a cheap contract to quarterback

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Speaker 3: to kind of work through some of the post Tom

438
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Speaker 3: Brady era them or I don't think the Vikings would

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Speaker 3: trade up, but they're kind of another sneaky team too

440
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Speaker 3: that could be in the market if a quarterback falls

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Speaker 3: to go up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yep. It's gonna be a lot of hooting and hollering

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Speaker 2: on day one of the draft, Thursday night. You can

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Speaker 2: join in that regard. The Colts are hosting their official

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Speaker 2: draft party. It's presented by bud Light and it said

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Speaker 2: of all ages. Activities will include appearances by several Colts legends,

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Speaker 2: Gary Brackett's gonna be involved, Marlon Jackson, Jack Doyle and others,

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Speaker 2: Colts cheerleaders, giveaways, and other fan and family friendly opportunities.

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Speaker 2: For all the details and where the players are going

452
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Speaker 2: to be, head to Colts dot com slash draft. All right,

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Speaker 2: as promise, let's break out the what if machine? All right,

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Speaker 2: what if I told you remember that back in the day,

455
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Speaker 2: remember that the thirty for thirty guy? What if I

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Speaker 2: told you?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely?

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Speaker 2: What if I told you there was a great one

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Speaker 2: before the great one? Remember that? All right? So let's

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Speaker 2: react to some statements. I'm going to bust out some

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Speaker 2: statements to you guys, and I just want you to

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Speaker 2: tell me how you feel or how you would feel

463
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Speaker 2: if they came true. Give me your gut reaction. Okay,

464
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Speaker 2: So what if I told you? What if I told you?

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Speaker 2: What if I told you the Colts JJ move up

466
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Speaker 2: to the third overall selection, so they are the team

467
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Speaker 2: that trades with the Cardinals jump up to three, and

468
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Speaker 2: they draft Anthony Richardson. What if I told you that?

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Speaker 3: To me, that would tell me that the Colts have

470
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Speaker 3: a very high grade on Anthony Richardson, that there would

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Speaker 3: be a gap between him and potentially the third quarterback

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Speaker 3: or the fourth quarterback on the board, depending what Houston

473
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Speaker 3: does right, and they couldn't risk not getting him. So

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if that happened. If if the

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Speaker 3: draft starts playing out, you know, next Thursday night, and

476
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Speaker 3: the Colts we cannot risk missing out on Anthony Richardson

477
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Speaker 3: because the gap between him and the next guy on

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Speaker 3: our board is so significant that yeah, we're willing to

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Speaker 3: burn whatever it takes to go get him. That wouldn't

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Speaker 3: surprise me as a scenario.

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Speaker 2: You know what's fascinating about Anthony Richardson as it relates

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Speaker 2: to the Colts. Chris Ballard has routinely talked about the

483
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Speaker 2: quarterback traits that he covets the most, and what is that.

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Speaker 2: It's accuracy. And Richardson last year was sub sixty percent

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Speaker 2: by a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean he was fifty three percent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like fifty three percent. He finished thirteen

488
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Speaker 2: out of fourteen SEC quarterbacks last year in accuracy. And

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Speaker 2: there's people, I mean, I've talked to people on our

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Speaker 2: inside the Draft series previewing the draft. There's people out

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Speaker 2: there that think that if he throws to NFL receivers,

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Speaker 2: if he has an NFL offense around him, his completion

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Speaker 2: percentage is going to be fine. Because, right, if you.

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Speaker 4: Give Anthony Richardson the receivers that Bryce Younger CJ. Stroud had, right,

495
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Speaker 4: and the offensive line that each of those guys had

496
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Speaker 4: in the run game, each of those guys had, like

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Speaker 4: what would his You know, that's.

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Speaker 2: A big leap though, to go from fifty three to

499
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Speaker 2: the high sixties, graduating up in competition and completion percentage,

500
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Speaker 2: and so again, Chris Ballard has said multiple times quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: have to have a capability, they have to have that

502
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Speaker 2: playmaking ability, but eventually they all come down to delivering

503
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Speaker 2: in the pocket. The game comes down to accuracy and

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Speaker 2: making plays behind the offensive line. So it's still about

505
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Speaker 2: throwing the ball and putting it where it needs to go.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's a mystery. There's people that think Richardson's

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Speaker 2: not worthy of a top five pick, and then there's

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Speaker 2: other people that say his supporting cast at Florida really

509
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Speaker 2: let him down with the drops and they didn't have

510
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Speaker 2: great playmakers. He's just this enigma that we've never seen before.

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Speaker 2: He's projected to go in the top five JJ, but

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Speaker 2: his resume screams day three project.

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Speaker 3: Well potentially or look at him and you say, this

514
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Speaker 3: is the most at literally the most athletic quarterback prospect

515
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Speaker 3: we have ever seen. You have to balance that and

516
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Speaker 3: so to kind of balance out what Chris Ballard said.

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Speaker 3: And I would love to be privy to these conversations,

518
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Speaker 3: I won't be, But Shane Steichen has said accuracy can

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Speaker 3: be schemed, it can be coached, and it can be

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Speaker 3: improved through scheme and through coaching. To me, what I

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Speaker 3: want to know about these prospects what flawed? Because they're

522
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Speaker 3: all flawed. Every single quarterback prospect in this year's draft

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Speaker 3: is flawed in some way, shape or form what flaws

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Speaker 3: are fixable and what flaws can you what flaws are unfixable,

525
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Speaker 3: and then what flaws are maybe not fixable but you

526
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Speaker 3: can work around. Like Josh Allen is never going to

527
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Speaker 3: be the most accurate quarterback, He's not always gonna throw

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Speaker 3: with touch, but man, the Bills worked around whatever flaws

529
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Speaker 3: he had in his game and it turned out he's

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Speaker 3: a top three MVP candidate.

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Speaker 2: To he was definitely the exception, right, he is right,

532
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Speaker 2: definitely proving that because he was sub sixty at one ioming,

533
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Speaker 2: maybe not fifty three percent, but he was definitely on.

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Speaker 3: He was sixty first year in the NFL, fifty two

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Speaker 3: percent completion percentage, second year fifty nine percent, then it

536
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Speaker 3: jumps to sixty nine percent. Then it's settled around sixty

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Speaker 3: three percent the last couple of years. If you could

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Speaker 3: get Anthony Richards into the sixty three percent completion percentage

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, that'd be really good. Yeah, that would

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Speaker 3: be that would be incredible. That'd be great coaching package

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Speaker 3: that with his skill set. Boy, but you have to

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Speaker 3: believe in your development of the guy.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: But we've also seen quarterbacks come out like Sam Darnald

545
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Speaker 3: one of his flaws coming out was pocket presence, and

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Speaker 3: that never was corrected. I don't know if you can

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Speaker 3: correct that. Pocket presence is a hard thing to work

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Speaker 3: on at the NFL level, and Sam Darnald one of

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Speaker 3: the reasons why he he has struggled to find a

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Speaker 3: foothold in the NFL is because he hasn't had very

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Speaker 3: good pocket presence. He hasn't been able to see the

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Speaker 3: field very well. You remember that game against the Patriots

553
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Speaker 3: where he said he was seeing ghosts. You never want

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Speaker 3: to hear that from your quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: There are just certain traits that quarterbacks have that are

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Speaker 3: both unfixable and you can't work around them. You can't

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Speaker 3: find ways around them. And to me, that's where the

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Speaker 3: Colts football operations staff are. Our great scouting department has

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Speaker 3: to be able to identify what are those traits that

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Speaker 3: these quarterbacks have that are are strong, and then what

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Speaker 3: are the ones that they have that you can't really

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Speaker 3: you can't really work around. Like you could probably work

564
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Speaker 3: around Bryce Young's size, that is his probably that is

565
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Speaker 3: his biggest flaw. You could probably work around that, you know,

566
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Speaker 3: But are there certain flaws that these guys have that

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Speaker 3: you can't work around. And the question about Anthony Richardson

568
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Speaker 3: is is accuracy that flaw? Can you work around it?

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Speaker 3: Or is it unfixable? And that's gonna be a big

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Speaker 3: question that every team is sort of answer.

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Speaker 2: To what degree is it fixable? Right?

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Speaker 3: To what degree?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Is it fixable? Fixable to the point where okay, he'll

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Speaker 3: be a you know, high fifties completion percentage.

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Speaker 2: Can you live with that? Can you win with that? Right?

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Speaker 2: All right? Number two? What if I told you, Lara,

578
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Speaker 2: the Colts will not They will not. They do not

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Speaker 2: draft a quarterback with the fourth overall pick.

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Speaker 4: Reaction holy mine, to steal alive from my colleague Matt Tool,

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Speaker 4: Holy mine. I do think that. Yeah, I think that

582
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Speaker 4: it would catch a lot of people off guard. However,

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Speaker 4: I think that would mean that they use that very

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Speaker 4: high second round pick to get a quarterback that you

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Speaker 4: plan on developing and give him somewhat of a red

586
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Speaker 4: shirt year, and you have a long term plan in

587
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Speaker 4: place for a guy who you don't want to necessarily

588
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Speaker 4: spend the capital of being that high in the draft on.

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Speaker 4: But you do see promise, and you see a lot

590
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Speaker 4: of things that you know give you the indication of

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Speaker 4: the potential he could have with time. But when you

592
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Speaker 4: take a guy at number four, you expect that guy

593
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Speaker 4: to kind of walk in and be an impact player

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Speaker 4: rookie year.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: You think about guys who the Colts have taken in

597
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Speaker 4: the top ten picks. They're guys who've walked in the

598
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Speaker 4: door and started. You don't feel like, maybe there's a

599
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Speaker 4: guy who has the ability to do that. You have

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Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield here. You give a guy this next year

601
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Speaker 4: to develop, and then you see where he is a

602
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Speaker 4: year from now after learning the system, getting up to speed.

603
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Speaker 4: Maybe he starts some games later in the season for you,

604
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Speaker 4: and then you kind of plan on twenty twenty four

605
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Speaker 4: as being the real opportunity for him to be the

606
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Speaker 4: primary quarterback for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was like, we were just talking about Larra with

609
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Speaker 3: the Colts draft board, where if you stack it to

610
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Speaker 3: your top four guys and three of those four guys

611
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Speaker 3: are gone, you're probably gonna take the fourth guy, and

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Speaker 3: that might not be a quarterback. That's if the Colts

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Speaker 3: come out of this draft, by the way, not taking

614
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Speaker 3: a quarterback in the top five, but they get like

615
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Speaker 3: the you know, the next great defensive player in Colts

616
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Speaker 3: history in ten years, no one should be mad about that. Like,

617
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Speaker 3: if you got a great player fourth overall versus reaching

618
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Speaker 3: for a quarterback fourth who you don't really like. That

619
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Speaker 3: guy could set you back longer as a franchise if

620
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Speaker 3: you get it wrong and you reach for someone who

621
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Speaker 3: is lowered down on your board. The thing that would

622
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Speaker 3: surprise me in this scenario would be if the Colts

623
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Speaker 3: didn't try to trade out of that pick. Like if

624
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Speaker 3: they're sitting at four and they're not going to take

625
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Speaker 3: a quarterback, you got to figure there that probably means

626
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Speaker 3: a couple of quarterbacks have gone ahead of the Colts,

627
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Speaker 3: and maybe there's a run on quarterbacks at this point,

628
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Speaker 3: and the Colts.

629
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Speaker 2: Say, hey, you know, maybe a three quarterback.

630
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Speaker 3: We'll see someone. We'll see if someone likes that the

631
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Speaker 3: fourth guy or the third guy who maybe we don't

632
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Speaker 3: like as much, and we try to trade out of

633
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Speaker 3: it and accumulate a little more draft capital later to

634
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Speaker 3: continue to build out the roster. And maybe you have

635
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Speaker 3: to use that draft capital to go back into the

636
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Speaker 3: first round late in the first to still go get

637
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Speaker 3: that you know, more developmental quarterback. He still might have

638
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Speaker 3: to do that. We've seen teams do that. You know,

639
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: the Vikings traded back to thirty two to get teddy Bridgewater.

640
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Speaker 3: The Ravens traded back into the first round to thirty

641
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Speaker 3: two to get Lamar Jackson. That's something the teams have

642
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: done in the past. Maybe that's something the way, you know,

643
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: some way the Colts have to go in this draft too.

644
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Speaker 3: We'll see.

645
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of these four teams is not going to

646
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Speaker 2: draft a quarterback.

647
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Speaker 3: I agree with I'm with you.

648
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, teams, like I said, get desperate to find

649
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: their quarterback of the future and they sort of talk

650
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Speaker 2: themselves into drafting players who are flawed prospects. And again,

651
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Speaker 2: like I said, for every great one, there's two or

652
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Speaker 2: three bus But Chris Ballard has shown that he is

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Speaker 2: he's determined to not make that mistake. But at the

654
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Speaker 2: same time, he's never the Colts have never picked this

655
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Speaker 2: high before under Chris's guidance, and they need a quarterback.

656
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Speaker 2: So we really don't know how this is going to

657
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: go down. Again, I think this all kind of depends

658
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: on what the Texans do at two. Right. If the

659
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: Texans don't take a quarterback for the Colts, it then

660
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: becomes do we trade up to three and get the

661
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: guy we love, or do we sit at four? And

662
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: if they have sit at four, that would tell us

663
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: as fans that they have similar evaluations on two players

664
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Speaker 2: and they would be comfortable taking either guy at four

665
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: if indeed they pull a trigger on a quarterback. Fascinating

666
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: stuff because there's all these things that we can go

667
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Speaker 2: off in terms of the history and the things that

668
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard has said. But at the same time, he's

669
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: never been in this position before to draft a quarterback

670
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: in the top five. That's it's a clear need. That's

671
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: the gaping need on their roster right now.

672
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, it's and it's Jim Mersey talked about this

673
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: at the owner's meetings. But the benefits of having a

674
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: quarterback on a rookie contract for the way you can

675
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: build your roster mass significant. The Colts haven't had that

676
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: since the first couple of years of Andrew Luck's career

677
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: because then they made him the highest paid player in

678
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: NFL history and have been cycling through veteran quarterbacks.

679
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Speaker 2: And they were going eleven and five year right right then.

680
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: But you know, since since Luck got that extension, it's

681
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: been you know, you're paying your quarterback a pretty significant

682
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: chunk of the cap every single year. This is an

683
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: opportunity to kind of reset that, and the advantages to

684
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: building your roster are pretty significant at that point.

685
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: What if I told you, what if I told you

686
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: number three, let's go right here, right now in house Lera,

687
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: what if I told you the Colts defense will be

688
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: drastically better next season than they were last season in

689
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two gout reaction.

690
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Speaker 4: Believable, absolutely, because you've retained a lot of guys who

691
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 4: are impactful players. I mean, the kind of biggest notable

692
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 4: departures being Stefan Gilmour, Bobby Ocarake. From the defensive side

693
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: of the ball, You've got the major Well and Unique

694
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: and Gacway as well.

695
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Speaker 6: We should add that in.

696
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Speaker 4: But you know, you have impactful guys up front who

697
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: are growing within this system. We know how much this

698
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: defense kind of struggled to just learn the playbook and

699
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 4: really embrace Gus's scheme. I think that they will be

700
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Speaker 4: And this is something that I really wanted to you know, actually,

701
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: it was something that we talked with Zire Franklin about

702
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: last week. Ja Jamers sit in the media room, I

703
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 4: asked him about the bar that is set from this defense,

704
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: especially being that you have a second year in the system.

705
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: For all that has changed within this organization, new head coach,

706
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 4: entirely new offensive staff with a few, you know, despite

707
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: you know, Reggie Wayne and Brian Bratton being a few

708
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 4: carryovers from last year, but for the majority, the entire

709
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: offense is new. You have a new head coach, but

710
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: defense has all of that continuity. So I asked him

711
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: about that expectation, and he said that expectation does not change.

712
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: They do want to be better at taking the ball

713
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 4: away this year. And you also, let's also think about

714
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 4: you should have Shack Leonard for more than two football

715
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: games this.

716
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Speaker 2: Year, more than seventy four snaps.

717
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you should have him for more time than

718
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: that two games, right am?

719
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: I am correct on that too, I thinks, okay, but

720
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: it was seventy four total snaps.

721
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Speaker 4: Okay, so right there that one edition, it should make

722
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: you better. And then also thinking about just being able

723
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: to build upon for this team, you know, having that knowledge,

724
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 4: having the comfort within this system and just knowing also

725
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: where they fell short last year is going to motivate

726
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 4: this group a lot.

727
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Speaker 3: Yeah, to me that this comes from more turnovers, and

728
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 3: turnovers can come from continuity when you have guys who

729
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 3: you know, like Zaire was talking about last week, how

730
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: you know you can you can play just that that

731
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: half second faster when you you know the scheme, you

732
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 3: know that everyone around you knows the scheme. And then oh,

733
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 3: by the way, add in the best turnover creating off

734
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: ball linebacker in the NFL, maybe an NFL history, back

735
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: into the lineup. Hopefully, Uh, that's going to be pretty good,

736
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Speaker 3: I think. And you know, the defense fell off last

737
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: year in the latter half of the season. I don't

738
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: think any of us are you know, probably holding that

739
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: against them. Just the way that the season ended was

740
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: challenging for the defense.

741
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Speaker 2: You know.

742
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: I was almost surprised to see that, like, hey, wait

743
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: a minute, the Colts allowed twenty five point one points

744
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: per game. That was tied for third worst in the

745
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 3: NFL last year, and I was kind of like, really, yeah,

746
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: it didn't It didn't feel like that.

747
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: And it went up to thirty points per game in

748
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: the last eight games of the season when it had

749
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: all that chaos and Frank Reich and got you know,

750
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: Jeff Saturday came in. So yeah, you're exactly.

751
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: The defense. The defense was pretty good the first half

752
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: of the season and then things got chaotic, and you

753
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: know that it started to fall off. And that doesn't

754
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: mean that the defense doesn't bear some responsibility here, certainly,

755
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: but I kind of feel like they were a middle

756
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: of the NFL defense last year and this year they

757
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: could be a top ten defense. Yeah, if things go well.

758
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the basics have been installed. The initial learning

759
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: process is over. So now is where you see guys

760
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: in year two play faster, more freely within this system,

761
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: focusing on the details, not thinking so much, is going

762
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: out there making plays. I like it.

763
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Speaker 6: What if I told you, if.

764
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Speaker 2: I told you I'm hungry right now, I'm ready for

765
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: ready for lunch coming up in just a bit. Lair

766
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: Overton's over there saying I need more coffee. You got

767
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: to liven up here. I know you've got a big

768
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: guests coming up right now.

769
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Speaker 6: I know.

770
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phone lines. All right, let's go

771
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Speaker 2: to the phone lines. Welcome in our special guest of

772
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: the podcast today. It's always an absolute pleasure to talk

773
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: to this guy. We teased him at the top because

774
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: of what he still means to the colts in the

775
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: city of Indianapolis and the good that he's still doing

776
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: for an unbelievable cause. Joining us now former Colts head

777
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Speaker 2: coach Chuck PEGANO, coach, how you doing today? Thanks so

778
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: much for the time.

779
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 5: Doing great, Thanks for having me. It's always great being

780
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 5: with you guys.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, so this Friday, the Colts are hosting the eleventh

782
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: annual Chuck Strong Tailgate Gala back in town to raise

783
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: awareness and funds for cancer research at the Indiana University

784
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: Simon Cancer Center. And today, coach, you guys have raised

785
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: more than twelve million for cancer research throughout corporate sponsorships,

786
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: live and silent auctions, generous contributions from you and your family,

787
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: the jim Ers family, and event And guess how much

788
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 2: does this event still mean to you? And what does

789
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: it mean to the Colts support this and they put

790
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: it on at the team facility every year.

791
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 5: It means the world to myself and my family. So

792
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 5: grateful and thankful that I mean to think we're eleven

793
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 5: years into this deal. I was at the right place

794
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 5: at the right time, obviously, and got the best care

795
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 5: that anyone could get at that time. And again think

796
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 5: we're this is Chuck strong eleven point zero, the generosity

797
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: and support from from Jim Irsay and his family, the

798
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 5: Indianapolis colts. I mean, you don't see something like this

799
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Speaker 5: very often, you know, the way things that you know

800
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 5: went down and how things transpired, but it's it's just amazing.

801
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 5: And to the donors and the sponsors and everybody involved,

802
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 5: everybody at EYEU Assignon Comprehensive Cancer Center, it's just incredible.

803
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 5: And you know, Matt, we said, if we get through this,

804
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 5: we get on the other side of this thing, and fortunately,

805
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 5: you know, we did and cancer free now over ten years,

806
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 5: that we were going to pay it forward and we

807
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: were going to give back as long as we were

808
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 5: living and breathing and everybody wanted to still do this thing,

809
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: that we were going to do it. So many people

810
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 5: reached out to me that I didn't know. I was

811
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 5: barely in Indy six months, seven months, whatever it was.

812
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 5: And the support and encouragement that we got at that time.

813
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 5: Now it's an opportunity, you know, for us, like I said,

814
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 5: to keep paying this thing forward and help UH and

815
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Speaker 5: help others get through their circumstances Chuck.

816
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 4: In addition to all the money that has been raised,

817
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: to fund the research and the programming.

818
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Speaker 6: Chuck Strong as a mantra.

819
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Speaker 4: And just what you have meant to the community has

820
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 4: really helped break some barriers in terms of just having conversations.

821
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Speaker 4: How impacted have you been by when you were at

822
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Speaker 4: whether it's these functions, or you're out and about and

823
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 4: you're at games or whatever it might be, where people

824
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: stop you and they are able to share their stories

825
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 4: or able to share what they went through and their experiences,

826
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Speaker 4: or maybe how you helped them confront their battles even

827
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: more so and be stronger through their own journeys because

828
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 4: of how you stood up and how vocal you were

829
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: and how forward facing you were throughout your journey and

830
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Speaker 4: how much you have campaigned for all this research since.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, great question, Laura. It's amazing again. Just going back

832
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 5: to going through my cancer journey again, all those people

833
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 5: that reached out to me and supported me, told me

834
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 5: of their stories what they went through, everyone from a

835
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Speaker 5: you know, five six year old young boy Uh, reaching

836
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 5: out to me to to whoever. Uh. These are the

837
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: things that you can expect, Coach. These are going to

838
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 5: be some of the side effect chemo. Uh, you can

839
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 5: do this. You got this uh, to stay strong, keep

840
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 5: the face all that stuff right. And now it's you know,

841
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 5: it seems like it's it's daily where we have opportunities

842
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 5: to do the same thing and help others and give

843
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 5: other people home because I mean these stories of you know,

844
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 5: overcoming adversity and these obstacles and winning these battles again.

845
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: You know, we're still having to say goodbye you know,

846
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 5: to loved ones way too soon. But it just seems

847
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 5: like there's there's a lot more you know, success stories

848
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 5: than than the others. Uh. It just it's it's incredible

849
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 5: and to be sitting in the position it's so unique,

850
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 5: especially to that community, that city, the people of Indiana

851
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: and Indianapolis. Uh, it just it's just really really special

852
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 5: to be able to you know, to help and encourage

853
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 5: others and share, you know, the things that we've been

854
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: through with others and to see them come out the

855
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 5: other side of this thing, you know, healthy and cancer free.

856
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 4: It's always such a star studded lineup this year, no exception.

857
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 4: Ray Lewis is going to be one to join you

858
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: this year. And then someone who just as you mentioned,

859
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 4: has been through this, has experienced it first at hand.

860
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: Washington commander's head coach Ron Rivera, How excited are you

861
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 4: to have this group together and how meaningful is it

862
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 4: for you to see the number of guys from across

863
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 4: this NFL community who are so eager to step up

864
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 4: to come in and support this organization, support this cost.

865
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's crazy. I've always talked about the relationships,

866
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 5: you know, and being out of football right now, Lara,

867
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what you miss is the is the guys,

868
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 5: the camaraderie, the relationships, the locker room, the competition. But

869
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 5: it's amazing and Ron, Ray, Reggie, everybody that's come back,

870
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 5: you know, year after year. And then to be able

871
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 5: to have a guy you know, last year was so cool,

872
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: you know with Ba coming in and being on stage

873
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: with Ba and and sharing most people kind of knew

874
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 5: most of that story. You know, we did our little

875
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 5: deal with you before that that you know last year,

876
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 5: and then you know, to be able to give you know,

877
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 5: people behind the curtain, you know, uh, you know, seeing

878
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 5: if you will of actually what we went through. And

879
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 5: then uh, you know, knowing Ron for all these years

880
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 5: from Afar and watching his coaching career and him and

881
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 5: his wife Stephanie given of their time, uh, to come

882
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 5: up and support the Chuck Strong, you know, Gallon event

883
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 5: and share his his cancer journey. And then a guy

884
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 5: like like Ray you know, uh, we know how busy

885
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 5: you know these people are, and how busy he is,

886
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 5: and and Reggie and and all the guys and coming

887
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 5: in and and and sharing. It just means it means

888
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 5: the world again to me and my family and selfless individuals,

889
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 5: I mean, just as good a people as as there

890
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 5: are to be able to come and and and do

891
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 5: these things and give back. And yeah, it's it's it's

892
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 5: pretty special. And again it just goes back it's all

893
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 5: about the relationships Chuck.

894
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: Kind along those lines. What does it mean to you

895
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: that you get to host this event in Indianapolis at

896
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: the Colts facility every year with the support of the Colts,

897
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: you know, starting with mister Orsay and and his family,

898
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: and just to be able to continue to hold this

899
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: event in in this place, in such a special place.

900
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, again, it's it's kind of surreal, to be honest

901
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 5: with you, because you know, there's a shelf life for

902
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 5: all these jobs, right, and I was fortunate, you know

903
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 5: to get six years, six great years there in indian

904
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 5: and sometimes they all don't end the way you want

905
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 5: them to end, and there's a there's a few magical

906
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 5: endings to a lot of these things, and uh, but

907
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 5: it's just it's just incredible and it just kind of

908
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 5: blows you a way to think that, you know, we're

909
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 5: still doing this. Jim is still supporting this thing, the Colts,

910
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 5: you know, supporting this event, having it at the Colts facility,

911
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 5: being back there, being back in Indianapolis and hanging out

912
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 5: with those people. It's like it's like coming back a

913
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 5: year ago and you know, pounding the anvil. I mean,

914
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 5: who the thunk? I mean, who? I don't you know,

915
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 5: it's just because of the circumstances you know that we

916
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 5: all went through back in twenty twelve, and then again

917
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 5: the the kindness and goodness of the people there in

918
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 5: that organization, starting at the top with Jim, that that

919
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: we're we're still doing this and and it's it's it's

920
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 5: impacting so many people and helping so many people, and

921
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 5: all the funds that are raised, as we all know,

922
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 5: every penny goes to cancer research there at at IU,

923
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 5: you know, Signmon Comprehensive Cancer Center. And it's just it's wild,

924
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 5: it's crazy, Tina and I love coming back for this deal.

925
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 5: We're grateful that we're still doing this and hopefully, you know,

926
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 5: this one will be this one will be awesome, and

927
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 5: who knows, maybe we get another decade you know, of

928
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 5: dominance in this.

929
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: Area, Chuck, This isn't a question. It's more of a

930
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: statement of gratitude. But as we've talked about, you know,

931
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: people you've impacted through your journey. One of those was

932
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 3: a mentor to me, John Moon Mullen, who I worked

933
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: with very closely when I covered the Chicago Bears when

934
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: you were the defensive coordinator up there right and Moon

935
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: was you know, he was diagnosed as stage four pancreatic

936
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: cancer in December twenty nineteen, and he talked to me

937
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: a lot about the conversations you two had and how

938
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: you encouraged him to have a certain mindset in fighting

939
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: his battle. And Moon lived two and a half years

940
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: with stage four pain creatic cancer before he passed away

941
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: last year. And I don't know if Moon makes it

942
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: as long as he did without some of those conversations

943
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: he had early on with him. So it's more of

944
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: a statement of gratitude and a thank you, you know,

945
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: just having seen the direct impact you can have on

946
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: a person.

947
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was that was a special time, you know

948
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 5: for for me, you know, when when Moon was diagnosed

949
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 5: and then you know, obviously getting to getting to know him,

950
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 5: you know there when I was you know, early on

951
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 5: it on a the Bears. But I mean that's again,

952
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 5: that's that's what it's all about. And the way that Moon,

953
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: because we all know like stage four and creatic cancer diagnosis.

954
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if you can count on

955
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 5: one hand any you know, that's we all know what

956
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 5: that diagnosis is and what that means. And for the

957
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 5: way that Moon battled with such you know, strength and

958
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 5: perseverance and dig dignity. It was. It was unbelievable and

959
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 5: that gave that gives you know, so many other people

960
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 5: so much hope to see that that that you know,

961
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 5: they could come out on the other side of it.

962
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 5: But I was grateful for that, that relationship with Moon.

963
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 5: What a stud what an all star, what an amazing man,

964
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 5: and what he did in his career in his lifetime,

965
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: his legacy will obviously live on forever, what he what

966
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 5: he accomplished, and what he did. But again to watch

967
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 5: watch him persevere and fight the way that he did

968
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 5: and his attitude, I mean, just incredible, What an incredible

969
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 5: human being. And I know he's he's dearly missed and

970
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 5: those kinds of things, but the way that he did it,

971
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 5: I know it's helping others.

972
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: You know, Coach kind of going along with with JJ.

973
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: This is more of a statement, but you know your

974
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 2: first year with the Colts was was my first year

975
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, and I just I can't forget that speech

976
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: that you gave in the locker room late in the

977
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 2: season after a home win. You know, that speech about

978
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: talking about your circumstances and not letting circumstances define you

979
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: no matter what it is that you do. You talked

980
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: about beating cancer so that you can be there with

981
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: your family, to be a great husband, walk down the

982
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: aisle of your daughter's weddings, and I know you've already

983
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: been able to do a lot of those things, And

984
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: you know that speech still gives me chills because of

985
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: your dedication to this, A lot of people are, you know,

986
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: they're being able to live those moments and have those

987
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: same moments that you wanted to share with your loved

988
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: ones because of the work that you're doing. I mean,

989
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: this has just got to be so incredibly satisfying being

990
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: able to share in those moments and to hear those

991
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: stories from other people.

992
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's again, it is amazing. I sure that a

993
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 5: lot at that moment. Again seems surreal to me to

994
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 5: number one get out of the hospital after a month

995
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 5: and they're basically almost a month and then be at

996
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 5: home and then have the ability to be able to

997
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 5: come to a game and and wasn't supposed to be

998
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 5: around the team, but they snuck snuck me down after

999
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 5: after that great win and uh and and got to

1000
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 5: share that that moment, uh with the coaches and the

1001
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 5: players after being away for for some time. Uh So

1002
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 5: what I usually share with people is, you know, living

1003
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 5: vision and and not circumstances. And it's a it is

1004
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 5: a mindset and you get that vision in your mind

1005
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 5: and and uh and it's it's it's it's attitude, and

1006
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 5: it's it's all that stuff. But you can you can

1007
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 5: overcome a lot with with just you know, having having

1008
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 5: that vision and and that mindset. I got one more

1009
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 5: daughter to walk down the aisle, uh, Like you said,

1010
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 5: I got to experience, you know, one of them. Torri

1011
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 5: got married in eighteen and and got to do that

1012
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 5: one and and now you know, every every day is

1013
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 5: a blessing. We know life's hard. As we figure that out.

1014
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 5: I used to tell the players all the time, he

1015
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 5: life's hard. As soon as you figure that out, it

1016
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 5: starts getting a lot easier. Just how it is. Yeah,

1017
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 5: and we're going to deal with stuff. We're going to

1018
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 5: deal with circumstance, We're going to deal with adversity. But

1019
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 5: you're not alone, NFA. Right, we always talk about nobody

1020
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 5: fights alone. So we get the opportunity to continue to

1021
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 5: do this thing and help encourage others who are going

1022
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 5: to battle. So very very blessed and grateful and thankful

1023
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 5: for that.

1024
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: Indeed, Coach, I'm sure you can picture it in your mind.

1025
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: We're in that same radio studio right now where you

1026
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: did those countless interviews in your six years as a

1027
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: head coach of the Colts. So I just want to

1028
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: say thanks for being so great to work with back then,

1029
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: and thanks for your time today, best of luck with

1030
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: the gala coming up on Friday, and continued success with

1031
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: all that you do and all the best of you

1032
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: and your family. As always, thank.

1033
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 5: You so much, very very fond memories. Grateful for all

1034
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 5: you guys and what you did for me during that time.

1035
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 5: So appreciate you having me on.

1036
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: That's Chuck Pegano Chuck Strong coming up this Friday, the

1037
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 2: eleventh annual event here at the Indiana Farm Bureau Football Center.

1038
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 2: For more details on that, again, be sure to visit

1039
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: Colts dot com. Fantastic stuff as always. I mean, Chuck

1040
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: was so easy to work with, Lara. I mean, he's

1041
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 2: great on the airwaves, but he was better off the air.

1042
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I wish some of those

1043
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: off the air conversations before you know we went live

1044
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: or hit the record button could have made because he

1045
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: was just so candid and down to earth.

1046
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 6: Well, and I got to work with him.

1047
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 4: I was freelancing over here and working at Fox fifty nine,

1048
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 4: so I didn't get to work with him as intimately

1049
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 4: as you did, but have had so many just incredible

1050
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 4: opportunities to be here in the building with him, and

1051
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 4: one of them last year is, to me, the most

1052
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 4: memorable was sitting with Chuck and with Bruce arians when

1053
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 4: we were talking about the tenth anniversary of the Chuck

1054
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 4: Strong Game to come back over the packers, and there

1055
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 4: was so much one we had to leave on the

1056
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: cutting room floor just for times sake, but then also

1057
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 4: before they got miked up and afterward and just walking

1058
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 4: around the building and hanging out with them and going

1059
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 4: over to like kind of the cocktail party and the

1060
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: reception to see people and just how they flock to

1061
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 4: each of those guys and how much they mean, the

1062
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 4: impact that they've made on this community, on this team.

1063
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 4: It is just so much fun and you love that

1064
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 4: despite the fact that they've all moved on and had

1065
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 4: great success even after their colt's careers, there's such a

1066
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 4: big part of this franchise still.

1067
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 6: It's so much of the part of the family that

1068
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 6: they are.

1069
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So again Friday Night, the Big Night,

1070
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: the Chuckstrong. We're going gala over gala, but it should

1071
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: be a fantastic time. Nonetheless, again Colts dot Com for

1072
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: all the details. It's always gonna be great to see

1073
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: Chuck back in town. All right, let's close out, Let's

1074
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: get weird and the random thought of the week. I'm

1075
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: bringing back the intro random thought.

1076
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: And why is the carpet all went Todd?

1077
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 4: I don't know, Marco, you guys going out of town.

1078
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: Don know if it's cold there for these vans can't

1079
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 4: shut up?

1080
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: Shut up, shut up, shut shut up? All right, I

1081
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: am passing the torch or the baton over to Lerra

1082
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: this week.

1083
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Speaker 6: Okay, this has no like timeliness whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: It's just something that I love to toss out to

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00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 4: people as a conversation starter. So feel free to steal

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00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 4: this for your next cocktail party or.

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Speaker 2: You know group, got whatever enough to break the eyes?

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00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: How you do it?

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00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: Oh?

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00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 6: Okay.

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00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 4: When Edrin James was inducted into the Pro Football Hall

1092
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: of Fame, he selected Colts owner Jim Ersay to introduce him.

1093
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning had his dad introduce him. Right, that's always

1094
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 4: a big deal. If you were to be inducted into

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00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 4: a respective hall of fame, whatever it might be, who

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00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 4: would you select to introduce you as your yes, who

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00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 4: would be the one to present you? Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: I can start, since I've had time for this. So

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Speaker 4: my coll coach, Judy Wilson, she was my track and

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00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 4: cross country coach at Indiana. I always call her she

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00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 4: is my Hall of Fame human. That's what I call

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00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 4: her all the time. And I joke that she is

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00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 4: the person in my life who has impacted me most

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00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 4: who is not genetically or legally bound to me.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that so.

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00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: They don't they don't have to support you.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, so she just was the one who gave

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Speaker 6: me a chance.

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00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 4: She saw promise in me when I was just like

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00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 4: this very wide eyed, overwhelmed kid that was not nearly

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00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: probably you know, talented enough or quite fast enough to

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Speaker 4: be worthy of as much attention as she gave me

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Speaker 4: as a high school junior and senior to recruit me

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Speaker 4: to go to Indiana and going to Indiana running track

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00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 4: competing across country, the teammates that she surrounded me with

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00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 4: the amount of conviction that she had in me. It

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00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: absolutely instilled in me what it would take to go

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Speaker 4: on and create the trench actory of the rest of

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00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 4: my life. And I am forever indebted to her. And

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Speaker 4: she also tells hysterical stories, so I think you got

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00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 4: to think about that as well. She's one of the funniest. Absolutely,

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00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 4: she's so so funny, So undoubtedly she'd be entertaining as well.

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00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 4: But I feel like that I just owe her so

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00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 4: much because I would not be where I am today

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Speaker 4: in any facet without gud Wilson love that.

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Speaker 3: To me, the the funniest one would just be if

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00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: I had my wife Betsy do it, because you just

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00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: probably roast me, Like it would be a very very heartfelt,

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Speaker 3: but also it would be I think it.

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00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: Would be fun for nothing better than a roast.

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00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be like you know, like a lot

1132
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 3: of heartfelt things, but also like remember the time this happened.

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00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 6: Like our wedding speeches kind of became roast.

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00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever roasted? Oh god, it's the most

1135
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: fun I've ever had in my entire life. Yeah, can

1136
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: you talk about fishing with a barrel right there? But

1137
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: it was awesome. Is that kind of like blends into

1138
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 2: stand up comedy, which I've done twice. It's the most exhilarating,

1139
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: fun high experience that you can get, Like, and you

1140
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: talk about endorphins, like when you go up there and

1141
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: you like, you're trying to make people laugh, but they

1142
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: want to laugh. But you have to earn it, right,

1143
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: You have to earn that respect of making somebody laugh.

1144
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: And when you go out there and you actually make

1145
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: someone laugh when that's your intention, no better high in

1146
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: the world. It's pretty awesome. So who's your person? Well,

1147
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: I'm never getting in a Hall of fame. I can

1148
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: tell you that, so I don't have to worry about it.

1149
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 6: No random thoughts. I mean, like, I love it you absurd.

1150
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: Probably either my dad because of what he's just again

1151
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: the support like echoing everything that you said, and to.

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00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 6: That I do have to say, my mom is very

1153
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 6: deserving of that.

1154
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 4: But I feel like i'd want my mom next to me,

1155
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 4: and she listens to this podcast, so I am like

1156
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 4: I have to caveat like jump in here.

1157
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 6: Shout out to Sandy.

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00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 4: Sandy, she is absolutely the greatest woman I have ever known,

1159
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 4: no doubt. But I would want her next to me,

1160
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 4: like I think, you know, I need her side by

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00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 4: side because that's where she always is, like in lock

1162
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 4: stuff with me.

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Speaker 6: So I feel like.

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00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: She's going in with you. Yeah, yeah, she's in the

1165
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: same class.

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00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 4: Yes, and no doubt Judy would would pay proper respects

1167
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 4: and honor my mom as well.

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00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 6: So okay, so either your dad.

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00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: Or either my dad or probably the again the echoing you.

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Speaker 2: The person that most supported you, that has had your

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00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: back when they're not related to you is probably coach

1172
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: Leonard down Mike el My College head football coach. Just

1173
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: the most genuine, authentic, unbelievable person that I know that

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00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: I still keep in touch with regularly today, probably a

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00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: couple times a month, if not more, depending on what's

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00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: going on. But yeah, you talk about just He always

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00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: said that where you go to college is not the

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00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: most important decision that you make in your life, but

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00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: it's in the top five.

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Speaker 6: And I would agree with that.

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00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: Going and being part of his program and playing for

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00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: him and learning from him and going to that school

1183
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: was one of the best decisions I ever made because

1184
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: of what it allowed me to do and take advantage

1185
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: of and grow as a person.

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00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 4: I didn't even obviously play for Mike Leonard, but I

1187
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 4: know Mike having covered him and covered his teams and

1188
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 4: have gotten to know him and become friends with him

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00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: through you as well. And I can say I'm a

1190
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 4: better human being just because I know Mike Leonard. Dude, total,

1191
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 4: He's the type of person who he is absolutely shut out.

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Speaker 6: Coachell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so get that speech ready, Coachell, because you're gonna

1194
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: hypothetically never need it, but you're never gonna need it.

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00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: I can tell you that, Hey, closing out inside the

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Speaker 2: draft is back this week, We've got to chat with

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Speaker 2: Ian Cummings. That's up right now. He's from Pro Football Network,

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Speaker 2: as we continue to talk about the draft with all

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Speaker 2: the insiders across the nation. Also this week, JJ, that

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00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: special episode of the Whip Around podcast. We did that

1201
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: a little bit later last week. Now it's back.

1202
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: That's my Whip Around.

1203
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: We talk about the top quarterbacks in the draft with

1204
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 2: folks that covered them so closely in college. Also this week,

1205
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: Inside Football with Rick vent Turrey back a special draft

1206
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: episode explaining what he thinks of all the top quarterbacks

1207
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: in this draft ahead of round number one. So we're

1208
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: doing that a little bit later. And then the last

1209
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: word on Friday's special guest not Jeffrey Gorman, but Chris

1210
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: Ballard following his pre draft press conference, so stay tuned

1211
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: for that. On Friday, we'll hear from the GM of

1212
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: the Colts about five six days away from the draft

1213
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: and his thoughts on what's going on and setting the

1214
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: draft board and all of that. But to close out,

1215
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: Larra with the next pick, it's coming out right coming

1216
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: up on Thursday.

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01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 6: Look for it later on this week.

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01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: All right, JJ, what are you writing about this week

1219
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: going into the weekend?

1220
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 3: Before the draft, so just you know, still going through

1221
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: mock drafts and stuff. Chris Ballard talks to the media

1222
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: on Friday and noon, so I'll have some stuff from him.

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01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure he will reveal to us what the Colts

1224
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 3: draft plans are, exactly what they're gonna do. Do they like, Yeah,

1225
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: who they don't like? Right, It'll be very informative press conference.

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01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys know what it's going to sound like. Yeah,

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01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: but I'll still have something off of that. And then

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01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 3: next week we're into the draft YEP. Finally we'll make

1229
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: it YEP.

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Speaker 2: One more week to GOO April twenty seventh, Round number one.

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Speaker 2: We'll have all the coverage for you Colts dot Com,

1232
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: the Colts Audio Network, and as always, thanks for listening.

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01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: Our thanks again to Chuck Pegana who joined us a

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01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,479
Speaker 2: little bit earlier in this podcast, as well for Lara

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01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 2: Overton JJ Stegowitz. We'll do it again next Tuesday on

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01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 2: another episode of the Official Colts Podcast. I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week. So long