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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. H M m H. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Wally here with Matt Williamson, and we've got

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Speaker 1: As we said, Matt and I are going to do

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Speaker 1: a little this is a fantasy type thing sort of. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: where's my recommendation on the parameters. Okay, one of us

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Speaker 1: gets the first pick. Okay, next one gets next two,

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Speaker 1: and then we go one on one with that. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any coins or anything to flip about

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Speaker 1: this bottle cap? Okay, doesn't have your anthing? Up or downs?

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Speaker 1: What's ups and down? Ups will be that and downs

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Speaker 1: will be that. All right? I went downs ups? It

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Speaker 1: is so you could, I guess you can have one

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Speaker 1: or the next two. You can pick what spot you want.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think I'm going to take

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Speaker 1: two and three. Okay, you go one. I wanted to,

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Speaker 1: and I think Green Bay is the clear one. I

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Speaker 1: don't love their history of losing NFC Championship games, but

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Speaker 1: and frankly most years, like t Bay last year or

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs the year before, we're stronger ones to me

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Speaker 1: than Green Bay is. But they're the easy pick for me. Still.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take Kansas City, yeah, and I am

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Speaker 1: going to take and here's what gets interesting. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: would be my second choice too. I'm gonna take Kansas

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Speaker 1: think is I'm gonna take Buffalo? I don't I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna speak for you. But my logic for taking those

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Speaker 1: lot of it depends who they end up getting the matchups. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what Buccaneers are healthy and that given day and all

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Speaker 1: those type of things. Uh, yeah, I think one of

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Speaker 1: those two AFC teams will get there. I don't have

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Speaker 1: play one less game, they're gonna be my picks. So

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Speaker 1: you got both number one seats. I got both number one.

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Speaker 1: It's not bad. It's not a bad start. Although I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Titans are one of the best four teams.

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Speaker 1: And he comes back and dominates, you know, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: then take I'll take Tampa Bay. I was torn with

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Speaker 1: Tampa and Tennessee. I'll take the Tampa. I'll take the

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Speaker 1: Brady factor. It's just the Brady factor, I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: that's all it is. And that's and they've they've done it,

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Speaker 1: last two Super Bowl champions are on my Yeah, absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Not to mention those three of the last for teams

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Speaker 1: of rings. Mm hmm. I'm gonna go Dallas. Okay. That's

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Speaker 1: But I was just gonna take either Bengals or Patriots.

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Speaker 1: here's what we will do. How we will score this?

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Speaker 1: Before that, I'll trade you my seven for yours. No,

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Speaker 1: get the two teams with buys. That's nice, So I'll

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Speaker 1: give you plus plus two points to start. Okay, they

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Speaker 1: sure Cardinals, Rams counts like someone that's a clear dog, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: three eighty. You can get that right now. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: England is plus okay, the Cardinals are plus put a

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Speaker 1: six thousand. The Steelers are plus nine thousand. I don't

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Speaker 1: I can write a very believable script of how that goes. Um.

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Speaker 1: Can you see the Raiders beating the Bengals? Yeah, me too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have it. You've you've said this before. It's remarkable.

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Speaker 1: course that year with a hundred and eighty four tackles.

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Speaker 1: A hundred and fifty eight of those were um solos.

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Speaker 1: They had as a team seven hundred and let's get

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Speaker 1: a fund. Okay, here is seven hundred in sixty nine

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Speaker 1: as a team. Okay, they had four rushing attempts and

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Speaker 1: three hundred thirty eight receptions against them, good season, that

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Speaker 1: adds up to seven. Yeah, so they had more solo tackles,

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Speaker 1: But you're telling me that every tackle that they made

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Speaker 1: had nobody combined. They only had a hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: like you get two in a game. It's a big,

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Speaker 1: big deal. Ray Lewis, get eight of them, right, some

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Speaker 1: some stadiums pad the stats, and and and it's somebody

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Speaker 1: and they come. It's the same stat crew at the

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Speaker 1: Steelers games every week. Yes, and they don't travel to Kansas.

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Speaker 1: and so one for every building. It's my belief that

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Speaker 1: he breaks the record. Yeah, I thought the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I never said it on the air, but I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: against what if I'm that guy. I've seen it before

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Speaker 1: That was a sack and they know that was a

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Speaker 1: That was a run? Are you talking about? That was

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Speaker 1: a run? The quarterback took the snap, look to pass,

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Speaker 1: started to scramble. That doesn't make it a running play

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Speaker 1: you called a pass. You called a pass. It should

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Speaker 1: be a sack. I think it's got a good chance

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Speaker 1: to get appealed. I think I think it gets overturned. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: remember watching I'm doing. That's a sack. Yeah. The Steelers

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Speaker 1: expected to find out. They appealed to ALIAS almost immediately,

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Speaker 1: and ALIAS Sports Bureau checks all that stuff. It's the

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Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why you see the just

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Speaker 1: we typically do our fantasy segment stat adjustments. Yeah, those

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Speaker 1: are from Elias. Well that was a run play, not

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Speaker 1: a pass. They look at these things closely and then

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Speaker 1: they said, well, no, that ball, that that play that

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Speaker 1: And with all respect of the official scorers, it's almost

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Speaker 1: you know, they don't get to I'm not ripping on

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Speaker 1: those guys, and they don't rewind it ten times. And

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Speaker 1: you know, but immediately, I immediately thought it was a sack.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was the record, and I thought it

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Speaker 1: was blatant. I never heard a good reason why it wasn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So Steelers appealed to hopefully find out tomorrow if that's

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Speaker 1: mean you talk about is that if that happens, if

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Speaker 1: that you had you had get it after the fact. No,

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Speaker 1: but I think seventeen games does I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: all these records where like Cooper Cup breaking is an asterisk.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not quite this. You don't call it

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Speaker 1: like they've never you know, people talked about it with

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Speaker 1: the tight end rookie tight end receiving record, and well,

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Speaker 1: you know, Pitts has a chance to pass past Mike Dicka.

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Speaker 1: Dicky did in twelve games more times at the plate

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Speaker 1: to hit home runs. You know it should help. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Dickie was averaging like eighteen yards of catch, you know,

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Speaker 1: running through people. It's really nerdy and nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: see it in the statue. But you should do it

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Speaker 1: by game. How many home runs did you hit per

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Speaker 1: at fat or or you break it down to the most,

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Speaker 1: the biggest denominator, smallest denominator, most common denominator. Again, my

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Speaker 1: mask skills are not on fire today. Near the guy's

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Speaker 1: talking about the one spreadsheets. I can do that. It's

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Speaker 1: cutting paste and analyze the numbers and say what shows up.

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Speaker 1: But that'll keep us busy in the off season. I

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Speaker 1: got a couple without a doubt, without a doubt, but

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for our show. Today is a

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lali. We want to thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: to this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.