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Speaker 5: This episode of RL podcast is powered by boost Mobile. Okay,

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Speaker 5: from left Rock City right to platinum plaques to being

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Speaker 5: a pioneer of the podcasts era, Today's guest has lived.

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Speaker 4: In many chapters of hip hop.

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Speaker 5: He is an artist, a mogul, a husband, now a grandfather.

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Speaker 5: From a drink chap to a run chap please walk up, happy.

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Speaker 4: Mean you many times over the years, but this is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people might not know this story.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a very different season for me because

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Speaker 4: They would let us do the things. But wait, so

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Speaker 5: Where you get that like hustler spirit, that like work,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, my father was a people's person to this day.

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Speaker 1: He had a mirror when he was alive. You know

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Speaker 1: It was because he was a boxer. Everything that my

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Speaker 4: It always happens to become your parents.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you grew up both of my parents.

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Speaker 2: He always wears tank tops and he had always a

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Speaker 1: Like and he was the he was the real, real,

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Speaker 2: And that's why my neighborhood loved him.

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Speaker 5: And so you lived in left Rack about the whole time, right, yes,

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Speaker 5: I like, oh, I was like, hold on, I love that.

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Speaker 1: And you know that's kind of dope for me because

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Speaker 5: But the truth about you in your life, First of all,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm just saying, this is how I live. Because

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Speaker 1: do this? You're gonna cheat me that ship? Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: the how the fucking I be? You know, you know

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Speaker 1: All the time, is there's some people who you know

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Speaker 1: you don't know.

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Speaker 4: Also, you don't always know what goes on in other

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Speaker 4: Coming crazy, going crazy. But you don't hear that a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe. I believe that.

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Speaker 1: I believe I just heard this one, but I believe,

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Speaker 1: like it's karma like and you do right by people

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Speaker 1: It's like you can't buy being lawyer, Like you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you can't like a person sees that.

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Speaker 1: and that's all I can see, right, And you're like,

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00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,120
Speaker 1: oh man, she's pretty right boom. But then when you're like, yo,

443
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't want that. I don't want her, you take

444
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 1: the power away. So much like when a woman, like

445
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,560
Speaker 1: a woman who's used to, you know, manipulating her beauty,

446
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 1: sees you and she can't Like I find it. I

447
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 1: find it like the most enthusiastic thing, the most vigorating

448
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,159
Speaker 1: things for me to go to a strip club and

449
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,160
Speaker 1: be like, don't touch me, but I'm gonna pay. I'm

450
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,440
Speaker 1: gonna make it rain, Like just stay right there, I'm

451
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna look. I don't want to be touched and I

452
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,680
Speaker 1: don't want no no, no lap ask, no sitting on me, nothing,

453
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 1: but I'm going to make it pain. I'm going and

454
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look. You know, that's it. And I find

455
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,399
Speaker 1: it because it's like this power has nothing over me,

456
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,679
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, and it's not and

457
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 1: it's not the strippers is not that. It's just that

458
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm in control of my own life and as opposed

459
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 1: to me when I was a young boy, I can't

460
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 1: say no to nothing, you know what I'm saying, Like,

461
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 1: I guess you know I met my wife at the

462
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 1: white time because I got all that ship up out

463
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 1: of me. But yeah, being a rappers hard, it's hard.

464
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 5: Was there a shift in your life that's something that

465
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 5: something happened or did you decide that you wanted to

466
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 5: be in a you wanted to have this relation with

467
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 5: the relationship just happened.

468
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 1: You know. Me seeing this is a this is definitely

469
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 1: a mess of bands, but me seeing other people in

470
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 1: relationship fell I was like, man, I think I can

471
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 1: make let me make my shit work because I would

472
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Speaker 1: see how like I would see how terrible other people

473
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 1: relationship And this is my my girlfriends too, like my

474
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 1: platonic girlfriends as well. Like you know, I would see

475
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,239
Speaker 1: them wanting one hundred percent out of there, man, and

476
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 1: then they're they're going out and doing crazy shit and

477
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 1: then coming home and be like arguing, and I'm just like,

478
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 1: if you're not giving it one hundred percent and he's

479
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 1: not giving one hundred percent. None of this will work.

480
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Speaker 1: And I just realized I had somebody that was giving

481
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Speaker 1: me one hundred percent. Like you know, my wife was

482
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 1: was helping me raise my kids, and I was just like,

483
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 1: this is something I did and I made a partner.

484
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 1: Like you know, we went through COVID and we couldn't

485
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 1: order nothing, like we wanted to be healthy, and she

486
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: was like, yo, man, open up a juice bar, like

487
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: cause we had to go all the way to towns

488
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Speaker 1: over to get a juice to get a set of

489
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Speaker 1: because you know, they was telling you to do. So

490
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: my wife invested in that and now we have two

491
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 1: juice bars. We love that the original juice ball. Yeah,

492
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: now we have one on the beach.

493
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Speaker 5: So so you got love, right, what is the what

494
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 5: is the best part of that?

495
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 4: What is the like what have you learned about yourself?

496
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 5: But what is something that you just really appreciate about

497
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 5: having a long term marriage.

498
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: It's just happened somebody that got your back, you know

499
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, like, the one thing I wasn't

500
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: doing this year was saying no right every year, I said,

501
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 1: you know, next year, I'm gonna do this next year.

502
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to Portugu. Next year, I'm gonna go

503
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: to uh Spain.

504
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,239
Speaker 1: Next year, I'm going to Meeking those and then I

505
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: swear to god, it was just like whoever invited me

506
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 1: anywhere this year?

507
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: I was just like, yeah, so and.

508
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: So that's that's probably the best part is because you

509
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 1: know our kids have grown now. You know, they got girlfriends,

510
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,719
Speaker 1: and they got beards, and they got their own barbers.

511
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know what,

512
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: we did a good job. They all in school.

513
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 4: So now you're enjoying life, yes, and now we're enjoying it.

514
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: And the one thing about her, I tell you this

515
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: is the best part. You asked me the best part.

516
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: The best part was I met her. I was miserable.

517
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: Winning sounds horrible, right, I was winning, but I was

518
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: miserable because I was used to traveling around the world

519
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: and I got I got like, I got like, oh whatever,

520
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: going back to Paris?

521
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: Who cares like going to Dubai?

522
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: And when I got with her, she was like, who

523
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: the fuck complains about going to Paris? And I was like,

524
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how I sound like because I've been

525
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: there like seventeen times prior to that. And then we're

526
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: going to London, We're going to Germany, and I'm traveling

527
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: all over world.

528
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: But she doesn't.

529
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: Realize I have to be here, so I have to

530
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 1: be have to pay the if I don't take these

531
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: these tours. They come a time in every artist's life

532
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: where America is just not messing with you. But if

533
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: you go to Europe you can still live like a king.

534
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: So I figured that out. And what I was doing, Andrews,

535
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: I was miserable. I was checking to the hotel. I

536
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: would watch Jerry Springer or Maury Povie or something like that,

537
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: and they'll be in their language, and I just figure

538
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: it out because I saw every episode anyway. And then

539
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: I was I'll sit there and then and she would

540
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: be like when I finally like, you know, we got

541
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: together and she came to me to Paris.

542
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: She woke me up and was like, we're going to

543
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: the Eiffel.

544
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: Tower, all all the ship that you think you think

545
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: is corny, Like you know, we don't go to the

546
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: fucking Statue of Liberty.

547
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: I've never been to the Statue of Liberty.

548
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: I know now. She made me do all that. She

549
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: made me go to the restaurants, she made me try,

550
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: she made me try a duck, and then I just

551
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: started and then I started to love this ship. And

552
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,239
Speaker 1: then I realized that, you know, but I realized I

553
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: was frequent these places and some of these people that

554
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: I met wearing groupies, some of these people were real allies.

555
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: And I realized, I have to come to Germany seven

556
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: times a year. So I formed the crew in Germany.

557
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: Dudes who dog in Germany. I formed the crew in Berlin,

558
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: formed the core at Frankfurt, and they were all represented

559
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: by crew. So when people will come to the how

560
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: the fucking crew in Germany? Because I would be there

561
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 1: seven to eight times a year. Wow, I figured out

562
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: how to make it living. So the best thing that

563
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 1: it's hers. She she made me live. She didn't make

564
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: me just work like you know what I mean. She

565
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: didn't be a part of me just working. She was like, yo, listen,

566
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Paris and you got work there,

567
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: but we're gonna enjoy ourselves, run around and we're gonna

568
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: eat with some ship craps, craps whatever, crap crapy yeah, crape, Yeah,

569
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna eat the Chocolate King and the cheesecrd.

570
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know they had that ship.

571
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 4: You deserve it, man, you deserve it. What about parenting

572
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 4: and now grandparenting? What does that taught you?

573
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 5: Because it was it's probably very different from when you

574
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: first became a father.

575
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: Yes, you're a different human. How about is your oldest

576
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: I believe he's thirty. He believes well, but my grandson.

577
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: It's terrible because I'm saying this on camera. He's going

578
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: to be the most spoilous kid. Yeah, he has my

579
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: face like he actually like I can pick him up

580
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: and I can tell like like he wants my cell

581
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: phone or something, and I'll hold him and.

582
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 2: Then he'll just give me that look like let me

583
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: get thirty seconds. And then he'll take.

584
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: My phone and he'll slob on it and I'm like, oh,

585
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: and I'll wipe it down and I look around.

586
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: I just give it to him again, like I'm just

587
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: he's not. He's not. I didn't realize that, you know.

588
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: You know, one, I never never pictured myself as a

589
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: as a grandfather, and I actually wanted to have another baby.

590
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: And then me seeing him, I was like, this is

591
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: even better. I can see you what I want. But yeah,

592
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: it's it's a spiritus, it's a spirence that I'm enjoying, Like,

593
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'm enjoying it, and uh your mush, Yeah yeah.

594
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: I love that he's coming to see me and and

595
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling his parents, uh to go vacation and they're chilled.

596
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: You know, He's gonna just be with me.

597
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: Even my wife is like, I was like, you know what,

598
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: I need to reiterate how to learn how to change patterns.

599
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do it, and he's gonna scream and

600
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be It's.

601
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 4: Gonna be great.

602
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great. So I'm looking forward to being

603
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: throw up on and peed on.

604
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Speaker 4: I don't even what is he gonna call you? Well, Papa, okay,

605
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,240
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606
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: And he's like halfway calling and ship so it's like

607
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: it's dope.

608
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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it as long as shape

658
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: like right, getting older and not having it together, but

659
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: getting older and being aware of your environment. You know.

660
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: There's people who there's people who don't get older.

661
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: Right. They have a friend, he's been some other drugs

662
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: his whole life. He has nothing. So maybe he's fifty five,

663
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: but in his heart he's never left fifteen. He has

664
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: no aspiration. Here has no inspiration, He has no motivation.

665
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: So when you have to answer your question, getting older

666
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: is something dope? Like if you ever ever see that

667
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: guy that you know what I'm saying that ask that

668
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: gray beard on and he's coming down and he got

669
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: this tight ass shirt on and he's he's getting in

670
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: his Lamborghini and shit like, this guy's happy. Man.

671
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: You know why, he's been through life.

672
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: He saw a life so and he didn't short change life. So,

673
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, getting older I believe.

674
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: I believe it's dope.

675
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: I believe it's dope as long as you like, you know,

676
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: keep it together, you know what I'm saying, because and

677
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, don't try to be like the youngest I

678
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: get I get that. They say hip hop is a

679
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: young age. Four tour four album is probably one of

680
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: the best albums ever and Jay made it. What it's

681
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: forty eight years old or years old? I mean, cater

682
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: to your audience. I love what NAS is doing. Like

683
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: NAS is not talking to the eighteen year old in Queens.

684
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: Where's He's talking to the forty four year old that

685
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: works at ups Now. He's talking to the you know,

686
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: the guy who has a career who grew up with him.

687
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: This is allmatic and I believe that we can grow

688
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: with our fans and we can grow like that in life.

689
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: Like who the thought.

690
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm forty eight years old and this is the this

691
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: is the time I want to run a marathon. Yes,

692
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: this is the time. Come on, bro, like you.

693
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't believe you have to this.

694
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't work for this guy at all.

695
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't this guy named Brian Johnson, right, just look

696
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: him up, right, he's he's a white guy.

697
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: He sold his company for like a billion dollars.

698
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Right. So I was on YouTube one day and I

699
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: just scrolled across his his I was watching David Goggins.

700
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how David Gogin is related to this guy, right,

701
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: And then Brian Johnson comes on and he says, hey,

702
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: I think we could live to one hundred.

703
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: This is something that I wanted to hear, like you're

704
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: interested here here.

705
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: You don't hear nobody say yo, I think he would

706
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: live to one hundred. So I start following this guy.

707
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: I bore all of his his his products. And why

708
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't I listen to somebody like that? Why wouldn't I?

709
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: How old is he? He's he's not a hundred. No,

710
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: he's not a hundred, but he does. I'm gonna be

711
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: honest with you.

712
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: He doesn't look no age.

713
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: I can't even tell you.

714
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 5: You know what I.

715
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: Sobows is it Bob Johnson or Brian Just I forget?

716
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: But he he sold his company and he runs this thing.

717
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: It's called Longevity Mix, Right. I took it. I love it.

718
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is I think I know what

719
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: you're talking about.

720
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, in fall short right of wanting to live one

721
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: hundred forever and you fall short at eighty nine. It's

722
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: pretty It's something pretty dope, like there's there's there's there's

723
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: things that happened, and that's not what we learned in

724
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: the hood. You know what I mean? Like, I read

725
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: a book called uh, how to Eat to Live Biologic Muhammad,

726
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: and I've read that twenty twenty five years ago, and

727
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: that's that's number one diet right now. It's a minutely

728
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: fast he said this in twenty five years ago. You

729
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

730
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 4: It all comes back, It all.

731
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: Comes back or ozimpic. That's it, you understand, that's it.

732
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: It goes about ozimpic people.

733
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: You know you're talking.

734
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 5: About before running for beers and stuff and people always

735
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 5: trying to give you. How does because you've created this

736
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 5: whole brand around drinking, Yes, so do people expect you

737
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 5: to drink all the time? How does that align with

738
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: how you're trying to live this new life?

739
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: The worst it's the worst thing in the world of

740
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: me walking through the airport and it's like and it's

741
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: like I related to like what what right?

742
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: When I had this song?

743
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: What what?

744
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: People comeing to me?

745
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: What what?

746
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: What? I'm like, you know, I'm having a coffee, like

747
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm having a muffing, Like I'm with my kids, teacher,

748
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: we're here, we're discussing and people what what what?

749
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: But that's that's my life.

750
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 5: But if you had to like even personally like regulate that,

751
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 5: because yeah.

752
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Because right now I'm not drinking at all. Even on

753
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: on the podcast, we just had the Eulyssa's brothers and

754
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 1: they God blessed them.

755
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: This is a classic episode. They got so drunk.

756
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: Then you weren't drinking. They didn't even notice I wasn't drinking.

757
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: So why are you not? Because you're training?

758
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna hold it down,

759
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: uh until the quoit release.

760
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: Quite Nas has a restaurant in Las Vegas, uh called.

761
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: Well, he has one in Miami and he has one

762
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: in New York, but they opened it in one of

763
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: in Vegas and they invited me to that, and I

764
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: told you, I'm not saying nothing that no to nothing.

765
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: So I'm going out there. I love that. That's why,

766
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you notice you called me.

767
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, so we're trying to do that.

768
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I was like, yeah, I'm in Miami.

769
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: I know we were trying to do the podcast.

770
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I'll be there.

771
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, okay, I didn't even tell you

772
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: where or when.

773
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: Okay.

774
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: Cool.

775
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: If you ever seen Jim Carrey movie.

776
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Yes Man, I'm a yes man.

777
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what is that?

778
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: What is that about?

779
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: Oh you never seen?

780
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: Yes I have, But like, what is your reason for

781
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: being yes?

782
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: Well, because I've always been like I'm a virgo, so

783
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: like I'm like I overthink everything.

784
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: So I've been doing that for years, for years, like

785
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: somebody will say, and I'm having my birthday at tex

786
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: and Kikos, and you give me an ampler amount of

787
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: time for me to prepare, and then I forget and

788
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh okay, and then I don't. I

789
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: wound up not going. And I've missed so much things

790
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: in my life because of that, because me not being

791
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: on point and me saying, you know what, I'll do

792
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: it next year.

793
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: I'll do it next year. And this was finally this

794
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: year it was just.

795
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: Like, you know what, So I've done I've really pretty

796
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: much done everything, including Bad Bunny.

797
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: What I said, I'm on everything, including Bad Buddy.

798
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: Let me hold on going to see Bad Bike.

799
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: Didn't going to see Bad Bunny.

800
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: When I look at reggae Throe, reggae throne is something

801
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: that I kind of like risted my life for, right,

802
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: you know, one of my best friends, not just my

803
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: rapper best friend, but one of my best friends is

804
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: Fat Joe, and Fat Joe actually had a meeting with me,

805
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: Like he sat me down and was like, I don't

806
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: want you to do reggaeto man. The fen is also

807
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: one of my best friends. The friend had the same

808
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: meeting with me. Fado had be in New York.

809
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: Friend had it with me.

810
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: They didn't see reggae throw right, they didn't see when

811
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: it was going. But they also wasn't traveling to Puerto

812
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: Rico frequently like me. Like I was going there seeing

813
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: my aunts. I was going there seeing my brother. My

814
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: brother had a house out there at the time, and

815
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I was seeing and I was also seeing this beautiful

816
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: dance scene when you see a latina dancing and you

817
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: know it's very sexual, but it's just like it's something

818
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: about this that you know, there's no fight's gonna happen tonight.

819
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: And I was used to bang banging gon Y and

820
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: everyone that gets in the head of the bottle of

821
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: my wet it's like this, if if they don't fight,

822
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I did the show, you know

823
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

824
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: So and then I go to reggae Throe.

825
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: And so my point of bringing this up is I

826
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: definitely doesn't have anything to do with the invention of

827
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: reggae throng. But when it comes to reggae thro invading America,

828
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: I was the forefront of that. People you know, including

829
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: my own friends, was telling me not to do it.

830
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: And the first time you ever heard of reggae throne

831
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: record on Hot ninety seven is me.

832
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: The first time of reggae throne record was.

833
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: Then the first time ever was added to a power

834
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: one on five station K two U station in America

835
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: and in full rotation, I had one hundred and ninety

836
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: three million in audience. I was beating Mariah Carey. Yes,

837
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: this is the truth. We can stand up to this.

838
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: The first time a reggae don't added to MTV and

839
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: regular rotation me, first time there is BT regular rotation me,

840
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: first time the award show at BT ME Like I've

841
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: done that. I've sacrificed so much. And no, I don't

842
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: know bad Bunny, but in some way.

843
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: I got something to do with you.

844
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: I got something to do with your success. And I

845
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: say that playing around, but I don't say it playing

846
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: around me. You feel connected to anything that comes and

847
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: and and again. One of the one of the best

848
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: feelings in the world was when Joe had the second

849
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: meeting with me, and you know, this is my friend,

850
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: Like it didn't matter if he disagrees with me. I

851
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: disagree with certain things he does. But he sat down

852
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: and he was like, I'm sorry, and I was like,

853
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: I should have met the world to me. He's like, yo,

854
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I should I should have rolled with you.

855
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: I should have I should have seen how how you

856
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: saw And then he offended the same thing. They was like, Yo,

857
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bro, And I was like, you know, it's okay.

858
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 5: I love that you have those friendships too, that you

859
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 5: can have those type of conversations and they could be

860
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 5: sorries after you always seemed to have really good relationships

861
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 5: in your career, like and not just business relationships, like

862
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 5: even that you and Nas are still friends to a

863
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 5: point where you're gonna go to Vegas to support him.

864
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 5: And I know you and Joe's friendship obviously. I just

865
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 5: because male friendship is interesting today because not everybody Sometimes

866
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 5: guys don't girls always like you know, they're known to have,

867
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 5: like we can be emotional and vulnerable. I always wonder

868
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 5: about male friendships, how much you guys actually share with

869
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 5: each other.

870
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: What makes a good friendship?

871
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 5: Like you seem to have managed him for a long time,

872
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 5: but what do you think makes a good friendship?

873
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: You know, see it's different, right, Rapper friendship is something different, right,

874
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: tell me And this is this is gonna sound really crazy,

875
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be. My rapper friendship taught me more

876
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: than my street friendship and my people that like, I

877
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: just know, you're in real life, your real life friendship

878
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: if you if you have, and you're gonna notice, But

879
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this to the audience. You can hang

880
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: with a rapper for five days straight, y'all getting along everything,

881
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: and then this guy will just disappear. You might have

882
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: never speak to this guy again. This guy done changed

883
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: his number. He got a number one. Here he's duggie

884
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: now like he's clapping his hands. And these guys will

885
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: change on you. And and this this this period of

886
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: time that you guys spent is he rased and you

887
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: have to actually adapt to that as opposed to the

888
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: streets where you have like oh, I don't want to

889
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: say the streets, but like you know, non rap where

890
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: you have a friend y'all hit it off and nothing

891
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: really kind of gets in between that. Like, that's why

892
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: I love my relationship with bust of Rhymes. Like Bustin Rhymes,

893
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't have to speak to bust of Rhymes six months.

894
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: I can see bust A Brons somewhere. You gone, and

895
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: I know he's gone. He's gonna hug the shit out

896
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: of me. He's going. I gotta shut up, like I

897
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: can't be like you hugging me to No, this is

898
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: this is my friend, He's not my rat friend. Buster

899
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: has been there for me and that's that's that's a

900
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: that's a great relationship. But then there's other people like

901
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, like one thing about being in this game

902
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: twenty five years, you see people go up and you

903
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: see people go down. I've never prayed on people go down,

904
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: but I've seen that attitude of when they go up,

905
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, kid, you haven't many You have

906
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: no idea how many other people in your same position,

907
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: and they were asshole and when they came down, no

908
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: one gave him a parachute.

909
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: No one gave him a parachute.

910
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

911
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: Like, oh my god, there's so many of those like

912
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 5: there's people sometimes and I'm like, why is that person?

913
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: That person had.

914
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 5: Significant impact when they were popping, Why is there Why

915
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 5: did their legacy not sustained through assholes? Because people don't

916
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 5: want to shout your name or remind people of your

917
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 5: contributions when you.

918
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 4: Were not good to people.

919
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 5: And so that really is a testament to like, how

920
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 5: you treat people, it will, you know, affect how you are.

921
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: I remembered, you know what I.

922
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: Wish I learned, Well, you said something earlier, right, and

923
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: he said, it's will go out relationships. The thing about

924
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: it was when I was on the streets, I never

925
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: had the best product. I never had, you know, But

926
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: what I had was I had had to talk. I

927
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't make them feel like crackheads. I would make them

928
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: feel like, you know what I mean, Like I'm hanging

929
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: with them, like hey, what's up man. I remembers like,

930
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, their their their their girlfriend's birthday and its

931
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: like that, and they would be like, all right, cool.

932
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: Even though I ain't have the best ship, they would

933
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: want to come and hang with me or say or

934
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: just just do. And I've transferred that into the music business.

935
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: I always knew, you know, I'm never going to be

936
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: uh that that maybe that a lister right like that,

937
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: like you know the Top, the jay Z, the Kanye West,

938
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: that Byanna's the Nazis. But you know what I'm gonna

939
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: be not minus. I'm okay with that, you know what

940
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm okay with that.

941
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes a B plus sometimes sometimes it be minus.

942
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: It's okay. I'm right there. I go to the same restaurants,

943
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: I have the same watches, I have the same cars,

944
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: but I'm just a step behind. I'm good with that.

945
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: I have to You have to know who you are,

946
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: to know where you're going. And I just enjoyed.

947
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 2: I'm just enjoying this ship, like like.

948
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: This is ship, you know what I mean?

949
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 4: I do I get that. So I heard that you're

950
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: writing a book.

951
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am Simon.

952
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 4: I love this for you.

953
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 5: Yes, I think everybody should write a memoir at some

954
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 5: point in their life, whether you put it out or

955
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 5: you don't put it out.

956
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 4: It's such a therapeutic, dope experience. Have you started?

957
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: He started?

958
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: It's done.

959
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: Oh, it's done.

960
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm holding out until after the marathon.

961
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You have to include it,

962
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: have to include it because I'm including the training right now,

963
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: and the guy's flying out Friday, and so we're gonna

964
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: sit down because obviously the audiobook too, so I got

965
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: to go over that part too. But I can't close

966
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: it without this marathon thing because on one on one hand,

967
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: I believe the marathon is the ending of a chat.

968
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: But on the other thing, I feel like this marathon

969
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: thing is a beginning whole new thing, you know what

970
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because, like, let's just face it, I got

971
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: a show called drink Caps. If you listen to you know,

972
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: all my albums, I'm not representing the healthiest guy in

973
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: the world. So for me to go from that, I realized,

974
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm an extremists. I realize I'm either extreme this way

975
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: or I'm extreme this way. I don't have it, and

976
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: so I have to include that. I have to include

977
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: you know. You know, this is the hardest thing I've

978
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: ever did in my life. You know what I'm saying.

979
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: It's like.

980
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: I can hire a trainer, I can hire people to

981
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: run with me, but no one can't run for me,

982
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

983
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: So that's the reason why I like and I've had doubts.

984
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: Listen, I woke up when I did the twenty miles

985
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: and now you know, you gotta love Instagram and I

986
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I'm scared and there was just nothing

987
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: but people just sitting me. Fuck fuck you're scared of

988
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, like, Yo, you can't be scared.

989
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: To run twenty miles.

990
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: Can't you have me, the toughest guy in the world

991
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: out of here?

992
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: The holiday season is upon us.

993
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: I know it came so fast, right.

994
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 5: So one thing I am working on in my home

995
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 5: is trying to make my home feel festive. And also

996
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 5: I have a lot of people over for the holiday,

997
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 5: so sometimes that means any extra chairs and things. And

998
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 5: I started thinking about my grandmother, my grandmother. I come

999
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: from a family where my grandmother would host every year

1000
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 5: with second cousins, third cousins, and she had a very

1001
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 5: small home, but she hosted a big party and everything

1002
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 5: in the house would be dripping in holiday things. I

1003
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 5: mean everything for the toilet had like a Santa Claus

1004
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: on the toilet. The napkins in the house were Christmas napkins.

1005
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: I mean, if there was an inch of her.

1006
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 5: House, it was dripped in holiday And I don't want

1007
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 5: to do that, but I do like the idea of

1008
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 5: recreating that much joy and that much festiveness in my home.

1009
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 5: And there's so many things at Wayfair that you can

1010
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 5: get for that, and they don't have to be like

1011
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 5: the Santa Claus on the toilet, whether it's candles or

1012
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 5: tablecloths or just extra seating because I do have extra

1013
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 5: people come in the house. Folding chairs. You can get

1014
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 5: great folding chairs at Wayfair. And the good thing too

1015
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 5: is you can order that stuff and it comes right

1016
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 5: to your house without having to pay for delivery, which

1017
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 5: is super helpful or out lugging it having to run

1018
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 5: to the store and get all that stuff and packing

1019
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 5: the car and then packing out it.

1020
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 4: Know who wants to deal with that.

1021
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 5: So for the holidays, really it is a great It

1022
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 5: is my go to place for just like judging up

1023
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 5: the house to feel festive around the holiday season and

1024
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 5: also setting up to host to invite people over and

1025
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 5: the more people that are normally in my house and

1026
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 5: to accommodate for that, which usually means extra chairs. Maybe

1027
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 5: you wanted to get some new you know, plates or tableware,

1028
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 5: and of course Wayfair.

1029
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 7: Has all that great stuff and all the things to

1030
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 7: make you feel really festive. So I'm gonna be spending

1031
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 7: a lot of time with Wayfair over the next month

1032
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 7: getting my home ready for there, so you can take

1033
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 7: it vantage of some of these Wayfair deals that are

1034
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 7: going on right now.

1035
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: Don't miss out on the early Black Friday deals. Those

1036
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 5: are happening and they're big. Head to wayfair dot com

1037
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 5: now to shop Wayfair Black Friday deals for up to

1038
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 5: seventy percent off. That's Wayfair w A y f ai

1039
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 5: r dot com and the sale ends December seventh. What

1040
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 5: was the what was the hardest part of the book

1041
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 5: to revisit?

1042
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: I talk about my father has down. Yeah, talking about

1043
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: my father and talking about Pun because I didn't realize

1044
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: one how young me and Pun was at the time.

1045
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: You know, you feel like you're grown. You're platinum. He's platinum,

1046
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: and he got the big TS chain on and he

1047
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, we were running around, We're going everywhere like

1048
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: like uh, like I told you, it's one of the

1049
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: best stories of my life is me going to get

1050
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: him in the fat farm and him making me go

1051
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: get him fried chicken and COR's light and tell him me,

1052
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: uh the skin off, like and like, I didn't realize

1053
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: how much of a great person poet was and I

1054
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: didn't realize how much of him missing.

1055
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: Changed the whole trajectory of life after.

1056
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: That for you, Like, I mean, for you, what did

1057
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: I watch the other day and I fucking got emotional?

1058
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: Are you an emao guy? What was the last time

1059
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 4: you cried?

1060
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Ah? When I actually booked my room for the New

1061
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: York City Marathon, it's because real, yeah, because it's real

1062
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: to me now, Like it's real, Like I got the

1063
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: congratulations email and it's like, I want to do this.

1064
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: I know my father is looking at from heaven. I

1065
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: know my mother. My mother is worried about me. She

1066
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: cannot stop being my mother because of her birthday is

1067
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: on my fourth, so I'm running it on the second.

1068
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: So I want to celebrate her birthday the day before

1069
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: and I want to take her out to the city.

1070
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: And she's like, but you're going to need rest, baby,

1071
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: and like your son is a superhuman. Don't worry about it.

1072
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: Just come outside and come get some food and celebraid

1073
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: and get some balloons and flowers and you know what

1074
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean. But yeah, that's amazing. Tears, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1075
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: Because again I don't this is crazy. I don't promote

1076
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: running to people who don't run. Right. I know that

1077
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, right because he sounds stupid. What do you

1078
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: mean I would this? This is a perfect example. If

1079
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: you're not a runner, I'm not gonna actually get in

1080
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: a conversation with you about running. I'm just I'm just

1081
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: so sorry because I realized I sound stupid.

1082
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: I realized, like, that's like me with golf.

1083
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: I mean talking to people. People are looking at me like,

1084
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: you know what, you're not gonna relates. God comes up

1085
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: to me because he sees people taking pictures of me,

1086
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: so obviously with I mean, he wants to me, He's look,

1087
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: who are you? And I don't want to.

1088
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: Be like, yo, I'm a rapper or my podcast.

1089
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 3: I don't want to say all that, so I have

1090
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: to run thing on. I was like, all run, that's

1091
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: what you said.

1092
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: I'm a runner.

1093
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: He goes, really, so what do you do? So I

1094
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: go places and I run and I collect medals. He goes,

1095
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: what do you get? So I get the medals? Sir,

1096
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, you go, so, how much do you get?

1097
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: And then I was like, I'll get nothing. In fact,

1098
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: I paid to get in the race, and he's like,

1099
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: so do they fly you out? Here. I was like, no,

1100
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: I put myself out here. And he's like, do they

1101
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: vide a car service? And I was like no, And

1102
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: I realize how stupid I sound. I was like, yo

1103
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: to this guy. He's like, this.

1104
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: Guy is out here, so it's whole life. And so

1105
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: I don't really.

1106
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: Promote it to the people who don't run no more

1107
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: like I just understand it's okay, I get it, I

1108
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: get it.

1109
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 5: But I do think it's important for people to find

1110
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 5: whatever their thing is.

1111
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: That's why.

1112
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 5: And as a generation, I don't think we spend enough

1113
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 5: time look for those like I wish to god I

1114
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 5: would have found golf so much earlier number when I'd

1115
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 5: be way better at it.

1116
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 4: Y'all, watch, it's not too lay for you. You can

1117
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 4: come out all right.

1118
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put you in my in real life balls

1119
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 5: or in real life questions.

1120
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: What I do anyone?

1121
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 4: One? Yeah?

1122
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: Coolick one?

1123
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: Watuning cookie?

1124
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: Okay, fortun cookie question.

1125
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: This is a financial decision you're proud of, and one

1126
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: you learned the hard way. Oh what I learned the

1127
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: hard way is.

1128
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: Lending money. Lending money. I'd rather just them acts.

1129
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: Can I get because when you use that word lend

1130
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: and I got you on Tuesday. It's just just wait

1131
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: till Tuesday then, right, and then you'll have it. You

1132
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: have yourself, right, you can always say that. But lending

1133
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: money is a terrible thing and it changes the relationship.

1134
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: You got to really really trust this person or really

1135
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: really trust the situation.

1136
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: So that's the worst thing I did.

1137
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: Some of the best things I did was, you know,

1138
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: going to have coffee with these watch people and just

1139
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: sitting down and buying a watch for seventy five thousand

1140
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: that winds up being five hundred thousand, you know what

1141
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, and you can actually enjoy your art, Like,

1142
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, you could buy a boss gyat right now,

1143
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: but who how many people are going to invite to

1144
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: your house? Like, you know, you you could buy an

1145
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: Andy Warhole, but like, how many people who's coming to

1146
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: your house a year? Like it's it's probably only like

1147
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: five to ten people you trust, right, like like really

1148
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: really trust, like and they don't give a fuck a

1149
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: bunch your boss yt I can have. So you invest

1150
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: in watches, Yeah, I invest in watches. I invest in

1151
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: other things. I don't want to, you know, blow up everything.

1152
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's one of the things that I

1153
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: invested and I enjoy in and I can actually write

1154
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: off if you if you do it the right way,

1155
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's something I'm very

1156
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: very very very interested in and I did can get

1157
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: into it watch collecting to make money at all. I

1158
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: got into it because I love it, and it's something

1159
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: like again, you know, we need hobbies, man like we

1160
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: need like and I love my three I'm not flassing.

1161
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: My three watch consultants is Jay Z, Kevin Hart, and

1162
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: Mark Warburg. Okay, Mark Warburg always hits me back, whether

1163
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't like to watch or not.

1164
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: How does this go?

1165
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: What do you do?

1166
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: Heart hurts my feelings.

1167
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart will give me the thumbs down so fast,

1168
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know how you about the wire?

1169
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: And Kevin Hart he'll take like an hour or something like,

1170
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: he won't hit me right back, and then he'll hit

1171
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: me the thumbs down. I'm like a hold up. And

1172
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: then Jay, if he doesn't like the watch, he's such

1173
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: a respectful guy, he just ignores me and I take it.

1174
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: I get the answer.

1175
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: I'd be like, all right, cool.

1176
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: But then if he likes to watch, he'll say something

1177
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: like get that bitch, and I'm like, how I'll read it.

1178
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's saying it that way, but yeah,

1179
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: probably get that. And yeah, so I enjoyed that.

1180
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: And like like I like, I have whole conversations with

1181
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: Mark Warburg. We have never spoke about a movie or podcast. Nothing,

1182
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: will just be speaking hours about watches. And it's just

1183
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: like it's another hobby of mine and I fully enjoy it.

1184
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 4: Okay, rich hobby.

1185
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: That's a that's a rich rich because I just want

1186
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: to omeg us watch and I got so many compliments

1187
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: from this. I got two of them too, and and

1188
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: everyone thinks it's like ten thousand, that's a three hundred

1189
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: dollars watch.

1190
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: That's what I don't have the heart to tell them.

1191
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: Okay, but yesterday, but generally watch. It's a rich fan sport,

1192
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: all right. Another one?

1193
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 2: Where is your regret? What is one regret?

1194
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: You have? My one regret? I have? Well, I have two.

1195
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: The Nettunes at one point came to me we did Superdug.

1196
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: Super Dog was number one at the time. People were

1197
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: still getting beasts from them, but I was like their

1198
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: best salesman, Like I was like because because I was

1199
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: like the first person even though there's other people that

1200
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: worked with Neptunes prior to that, I was. I was

1201
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: the one promoting them, like I actually put their name

1202
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: in the record in ep TU and esked the way

1203
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: they used to be like one of the best. I

1204
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: remember me asking for Real to actually go in the video.

1205
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm a behind the scenes guys, like, no,

1206
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: you're not something about she was behind the scenes, sir,

1207
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: like you're good there, and Chad did it and they

1208
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: actually they basically came to me and was like sign me.

1209
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: And I was so young in the game. I was like,

1210
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign you the Tommy Boy, I'm going to

1211
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: bring you to jay Z, I'm going to bring up

1212
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: I brung them to everybody but myself.

1213
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: I could have and I'm not saying I could have

1214
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: pulled that deal off.

1215
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: What I'm saying this, at least I had that opportunity,

1216
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: and I was so young and so dumb that I

1217
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: couldn't even They were like, hello, like Uniferson, that can

1218
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: help me because I was ill. And my second regret

1219
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: is the same exact thing. Daddy Yankee is same thing

1220
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: Daddy Yankee. He again, I don't know if I could

1221
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: have pulled this deal off. But he was basically saying, yo, bro,

1222
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: you introduced me to the Americans, want me to do

1223
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: to America? And Dame, I'm not talking about you. I'm

1224
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: just saying about this is the situation, this situation. I

1225
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: don't want no smoke, we don't need no Dame. But

1226
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: but it hurt me. I brung him the Dame dash

1227
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: and Dame looked at him up and down and was like,

1228
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: give him some rocket wear gear. M I was crushed

1229
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 1: because I'm like, that was the worst response this guy.

1230
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: Did you know what he wound him getting like twelve

1231
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: million dollars and Dame, he would have he would have

1232
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 1: probably took a million.

1233
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: He probably took five hundred thousand.

1234
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: He just wanted to be He's wanted the this is

1235
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: reggaeto and.

1236
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: It was like Dame two weighted. He said it in

1237
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 2: his face.

1238
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 5: I'm going to push you a little bit because I

1239
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 5: think those are work regrets.

1240
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: Okay, work regrets you my life.

1241
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 5: I'm talking about in real life, like real life regrets,

1242
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: like do you have any things that you've done or

1243
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 5: ways you treated someone I don't know, just anything, ways

1244
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 5: you've managed situations or I don't know any.

1245
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: Real life regrets. I know it's a harder question, right,

1246
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 4: A lot.

1247
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 1: Of life regrets.

1248
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: Really.

1249
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, my friends, it's crazy because we spoke about

1250
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: bust and rhymes earlier, my friend's steph, before we heard

1251
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: of mental.

1252
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: Health and all that shit.

1253
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: Like I knew what mental health was, and he was

1254
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: like my he's like my friend. We grew up and

1255
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: he went to jail and he came home and I

1256
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: could tell he was a step like, you know, like

1257
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: a step behind, and instead of me trying to get

1258
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: help for him, I just hung hung with him and

1259
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: I acted like I ignored it. And that's another regret too,

1260
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: is with Pun. Pun showed me signs that he was sick.

1261
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: I ignored it, like that sleep happening airy thing, Like

1262
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: I would talk to him and he would fall asleep on.

1263
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: Me, and I would think I was boring. I would

1264
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: think it was.

1265
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: Me, so like, let me step by game up when

1266
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: he when he wake up, they'll wake up. And I

1267
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: would do that. And those are the two regrets. Is

1268
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: because maybe I should have said something. I don't know

1269
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: if I could have helped, Like I remember flex rest

1270
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: and peace flex as well me sitting at Pun's casket, yeah,

1271
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: terror car flex resting piece, and he rubbed it on

1272
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: my shoulder because you remember, like everyone had like.

1273
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: Two minutes or five minutes, and I was just kind

1274
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: of like numb.

1275
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: I stood there in my my knees kind of like buckled,

1276
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: and I was just sitting there because like Pum was

1277
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: really like my friend, and I'm just sitting there. And

1278
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: I remember Flex rubbing my shoulder like, yo, he's in

1279
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: a better place now, he's not suffering. And I remember

1280
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: me looking at Flex like what you mean suffering? And

1281
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: I understand how naive I was. Like when I was

1282
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: seeing it, I related it to everything else but what

1283
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: it was. And I don't know if I was naive

1284
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: or if I was just ignoring it or if I

1285
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: was we were just having so much fun at the time.

1286
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: It was just like I don't want to deal with reality.

1287
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what's three of it, or maybe it

1288
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: was all three. But that's something I regret him, like

1289
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: every time I jog and every time I feel like

1290
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: my skin is melting off of me, and you know,

1291
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to reverse my ageism and I'm trying to

1292
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: live forever.

1293
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: That's the first thing I think about, is Punt. Really

1294
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: it's the first thing I think about.

1295
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 4: What would you have done? Though? What could you have done?

1296
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: You know? You know I was very influential on Punt

1297
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: and Plumb was very influential on me ignoring not ignoring

1298
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: the signs, but not like being proactive and a person

1299
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: life that I could have helped, you know what I'm saying.

1300
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: And but but that wasn't like financial or nothing like that.

1301
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: But my friend Steph I could have helped out financially.

1302
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: I knew there was something wrong, but you know, in

1303
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: the hood, like we're so tough people like. It was

1304
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: a hard conversation with me to say, like, yo, you

1305
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: want to go see somebody like you want to like

1306
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: And the night we interviewed Busta Robs, they told me

1307
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: my friend Steph had killed herself but he did it

1308
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: like o Dan. And it was crazy because the next

1309
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: day Buster Robbins calls me and goes, there's something wrong

1310
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: about you. And that's how much me and him is

1311
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: like friends too, like because you know, I'm a tough

1312
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: guy too.

1313
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be a tough guy.

1314
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: So and that's the one and only time we've never

1315
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: used to drink champs every other time.

1316
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't care if the person throws up, don't.

1317
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 4: What do you mean to use it?

1318
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: We didn't use it.

1319
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: I was. I look back at the footage and I

1320
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: could just see myself dozing off. I can see myself

1321
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: like I was in a zone like because and then

1322
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: I had that guilty conscious of damn, you knew that

1323
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: with pun. How could you let this slip with him?

1324
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I'm dealing with that.

1325
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: And then and and Buster like the friend that he is,

1326
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, he called me the next day and

1327
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: he's like, there's something wrong about you. There was something off,

1328
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: And I was, and I went I looked at the

1329
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: footage and I was like, oh shit, I was like, we.

1330
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 4: Can what could you have done there? Though?

1331
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 5: Either also maybe offered help or but I mean, really

1332
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 5: you can't. You can't. Sometimes you can't. It's you know

1333
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 5: what I mean, I don't know what you could have done.

1334
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 1: I guess it's just the human side of me, Like yeah,

1335
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's just the human side. You

1336
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: always feel like you could have did more, you know

1337
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You always feel like you know, you

1338
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: could have been a better friend. And that's that's just

1339
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: how I felt.

1340
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 4: Do you do you believe in therapy?

1341
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: Like do you you actually do believe in therapy?

1342
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 4: Do you like it?

1343
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: I like it? I like it.

1344
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: I've done it in marriage boot camp.

1345
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: I've done it.

1346
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: Actually, I grew up in my mother is a social work,

1347
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: that's right.

1348
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: Yea.

1349
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 2: So we had like family therapy and that I believe.

1350
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: I believe.

1351
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: You know, not holding this this end like you know

1352
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you you like this life is crazy,

1353
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. So like you have

1354
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: to talk talk to somebody, and sometimes talking to a

1355
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: stranger is kind of easy, you know what I'm saying,

1356
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: Because like I talked to mister Lee right now, right

1357
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: and I said, I'll throw some some deep shit on them, right,

1358
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: like some deep shit on them. You don't never know

1359
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: five years from now we be arguing, like man, you remember, man,

1360
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: you you know how to tell your shoes.

1361
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: Since you was sixteen.

1362
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: You know what y'all told you that in a confidence

1363
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: you know, like like it can happen like that.

1364
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: You know that therapist will never do that, you know

1365
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1366
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, I believe I believe that people from the hood,

1367
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: we just we it's meant for us to release and

1368
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: to talk. Yeah. Yeah, that must have.

1369
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 5: Been interesting for you to be because I'm if I'm

1370
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 5: thinking of you as a kid doing therapy and left right,

1371
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 5: I'm sure not all your friends were doing the same.

1372
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: No, no, but but you know what is crazy, Like

1373
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: I said, my mother.

1374
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: Was a social worker, so.

1375
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: You know, birth control pills and all that. Girls us

1376
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: to come to my career and getting for my moms.

1377
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. My moms used to be

1378
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: like like hold them down, help them get pregnancy tests

1379
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: and things like that, and you know what I mean.

1380
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 2: So they were kind of used.

1381
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: So when we were going to therapy, I guess we

1382
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: was going to a family therapy, you know what I'm saying.

1383
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 5: So with your parents, what a beautiful way to set

1384
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 5: your kids up to them know how to have a

1385
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 5: seventeen year marriage later in life.

1386
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 4: What is something that stayed with you from family therapy?

1387
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if I.

1388
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: Learned this from family therapy or this is my father

1389
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: is instilling this from family. It was like, yo, if

1390
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: one of y'all fight, y'all all fight, Like, what do

1391
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: you mean my brother, Like yeah, and like we just

1392
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: we stuck together.

1393
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 4: Like, you know, I feel like that was probably your father,

1394
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 4: I feel.

1395
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: Like saying in front of the therapist, Yes, yes, but

1396
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: I just what I really learned is family come.

1397
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: First, you know what I'm saying, Like.

1398
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: Like I've been that kid that grew up having thanksgivings

1399
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: all the time, Like you know what I mean, Like

1400
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: I didn't miss no thanksgivings. And I had grandparents too,

1401
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: so it wasn't just like I had. You know. Fortunately, Uh,

1402
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: both of my grandparents was probably a racist. My black grandfather.

1403
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: He had the worst Puerto Rican jokes. You know. We

1404
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: used to say to me, my black grandfather, No Joseph side.

1405
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: I used to walk into the things. He's be like,

1406
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, they here, how the silverware? You know,

1407
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know how racist that was

1408
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: back then.

1409
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 5: So in real life questions, you ready, Uh, in real life,

1410
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 5: what do you pray for most?

1411
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: That's a great question in real life, But I played

1412
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: for most. And I know it's gonna sound cliche, but

1413
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: I really pay pray for peace, you know what I mean.

1414
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: I believe we live in a we're living in a

1415
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: bad time.

1416
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: I believe a lot of people are not sincere, a

1417
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: lot of people are using people. And I like, so

1418
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: I pray for like peace, like pray for peace in

1419
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: my in my circumference because like again, I can't really

1420
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: I can't really change people unless I changed my own environment.

1421
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: Like like right now, I'm you know, like I said earlier,

1422
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm forty eight years old, I don't I don't like

1423
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: to use the word the N word, right, it's me right,

1424
01:04:55,160 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: like you know, rode in the elevator and I've seen

1425
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: one of my friends just saying nigga. And I've seen

1426
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: this old black lady. He couldn't differentiate really was he

1427
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: was he being racist? Or was he'd be on that?

1428
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: So like I just wanted to be away from that stipe.

1429
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: So I'm different now, you know what I mean? And

1430
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: mm hmm, yeah, so.

1431
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 4: That's a shift.

1432
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm totally different now.

1433
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: So moves the crush. I'm sorry. I pray for most

1434
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: so so yeah, so I pray for that. So like

1435
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: I did a retreat, and in the retreat, I counted

1436
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: how many of my boys said the N word, and

1437
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: we made them do burpies every fifteen time, and we

1438
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: all left not saying the N word. So it's just

1439
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: like I love that so sore. I really what I

1440
01:05:54,760 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: pray for is peace because I sorry, this sounds so crazy.

1441
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: That's why I believe like like like Runnings kind of

1442
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: like saved my life, is like or like it gave

1443
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: me a hobby. It gave me something that I needed

1444
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: because you can start to finish line with a billionaire

1445
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: right here. And this guy works at Costcos right here.

1446
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: This guy shoots water guns for a living. This guy

1447
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: opens up fire hydrants, this guy works at conn Edison,

1448
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: this guy works at Florida whatever. This guy owns the

1449
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: jet companies. But guess what, everybody's on the same level

1450
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: with that starting line. Everybody's and so and it's all

1451
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: at piece like that euphoria of a mania. Are you

1452
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: wanting with a maniac?

1453
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 4: Like?

1454
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: I hope she doesn't get you mad at me. But

1455
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: I always thought these run clubs were like like Corney.

1456
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: So one day I just went and it was this

1457
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: girl there, and I called it a Tasmanian devil. I'm

1458
01:06:58,480 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: so sorry, Like.

1459
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 6: She kept making her mouth and then turning around and

1460
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 6: getting everybody and she and you know, for lack of

1461
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 6: a better term, this is probably somebody I've never speak

1462
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 6: to in my life.

1463
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like that after we say cut, I would

1464
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: probably never speak. But during the run, she was like,

1465
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: let's go, guys, you who got this? And I was

1466
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: just like, I do got this? That to me is peace,

1467
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, where you can get

1468
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: together with all walks of life. And the only other

1469
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: thing that I like better than running was when I

1470
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: did the Food Show. I remember being stuck in Russia

1471
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: and that's when I knew that music and food is

1472
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: a universal language. I'm just stuck in Russia in the

1473
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: VIP and this is this Russian guy and he can't

1474
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: speak English, and obviously I don't speak Russian. And he's

1475
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: going like this to me, pointing at the food, and

1476
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm going and then he going yeah, And then were

1477
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: taking shots of vaka and we stood there for six hours.

1478
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: Of course, he did sign language. We didn't even attempt

1479
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: to move our mouth. We knew that. I love that,

1480
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: but that and that was a sign up piece like

1481
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: that's what I pray for, you know what I mean.

1482
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: I pray for that, you know what I mean.

1483
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 4: That's a good prayer. So who are you running in

1484
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 4: the marathon.

1485
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: With I'm running well, my son Naka is picipaying my

1486
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: two run chance partners Mitch and Lowe's. We also got

1487
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: too d Z from uh Philadelphia, amazing else who got Henry?

1488
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 2: We got a whole bunch of people.

1489
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: Your son is eighteen, he's eighteen.

1490
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 2: I'm the oldest. One other person that's older than me

1491
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 2: and this guy, mister lead.

1492
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: That's it. Twenty two people out of all seventeen of us. Well, yeah,

1493
01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm the oldest. Uh so you have all boys, right, Yeah?

1494
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: I got I got a daughter though, too.

1495
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 5: Daughter.

1496
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to get well. She jogs a

1497
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: little bit.

1498
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 4: How are you guys with a girl like.

1499
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's I called her mother, Uh the mother. Yeah,

1500
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: She's like she's like my mother. Yeah yeah, so yeah, yeah,

1501
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: I'm definitely yeah. I don't say no neither.

1502
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 4: I was who was I talking to about all Carti?

1503
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 5: I was asking Cardi in the last episode about watch

1504
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 5: the advice because you know, as a woman raising a son,

1505
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 5: sometimes it's like you want your son to learn certain things.

1506
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 5: It's like, what do you teach your sons? And she

1507
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 5: was saying one of the most important things teach your sons.

1508
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 5: Is that when a girl says no, even the slightest

1509
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 5: hint of a no, hits a fucking no. Like that

1510
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 5: was one of Carti's hard things.

1511
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 4: What about you? What is the thing that you had

1512
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 4: to teach your sons?

1513
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 5: And it's important for your daughter to know whoa as

1514
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 5: a parent, as a father.

1515
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: Uh is to have respect, you know, it's to have

1516
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: respect for for other people, Like you know, obviously I'm

1517
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: a cool dad. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,

1518
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: I might we might be opening up Christmas presents and

1519
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: I might fart, know my bad guys, you know what

1520
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But you can't do that in front of

1521
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: other people, you know what I'm saying. And I won't

1522
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: do that in front of other people. And that's what

1523
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: I really want them to know, Like you know, when

1524
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: we're having you know, are like, I want them to

1525
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: respect other people because people are gonna judge them anyway,

1526
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: i mente. They find out that they're that they're are

1527
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 1: you know of uh, you know a famous person's kids.

1528
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: They hold them to different standards. So I don't want

1529
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: them to have a feel like they're better than anybody,

1530
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean or I want them

1531
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: to be decent children. So that's that's that's what, that's

1532
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: what I like. I embarrassed my son the other day.

1533
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: I went to UH because I said to myself, I

1534
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: get under two hundred pounds, I'm gonna get a convertible.

1535
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: So I went convertible and I didn't realize that we

1536
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: had to go get him because we didn't drop our

1537
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: other car. And I pulled up in front of him,

1538
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: and all of my son's friends are sitting there like ship,

1539
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: look at that car. And then my son looked at me,

1540
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 1: goes because he's trying to be normal as much as can.

1541
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: And then here I go picking him up and look,

1542
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: god damn drop tipping out. He's like dad, and like

1543
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: from the way he said Dad, I was like, fucked up? Right?

1544
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, kind of like I want to be

1545
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: like normal, and like, how can up? How can I

1546
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: go back to normal? Everyone's gonna ask me about and

1547
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: I want them to be yeah, decent, decent people, because

1548
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: that's how I got in life is his relationships and

1549
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: you know, treat people with respect, you know, coming on

1550
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: time to places and doing things and not wasting people,

1551
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: you know time and never thinking I'm better than anybody,

1552
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And so that's what I

1553
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: wish for them.

1554
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 5: How often in real life do you think about your

1555
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 5: legacy music, legacy, No, just your legacy life.

1556
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: I want to answer it like how Mike Tyson as

1557
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: they remember then the little girl asked, Mike Tyson was

1558
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: like football legacy.

1559
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like bike away from the girl.

1560
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: Get It's not something like because I feel like I'm

1561
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: living in real time. I feel like I got more

1562
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: to do, I got more to accomplish, So I don't

1563
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: think about it as much as I do, like you know,

1564
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: every now and then, you know, I'll be around somebody

1565
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, hey, yo, you made the war report,

1566
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: you did this, you did that, and it's like it's cool,

1567
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: but I'm not done yet, you know what I mean.

1568
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: So I'm not here to celebrate something that. So I

1569
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: think about the legacy, but it's something that I want

1570
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: to keep, continue to build, and I want to you know,

1571
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: keep just going. I want, you know, I want more,

1572
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: So I don't really think about past like that.

1573
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 4: What do you like most about yourself in real life?

1574
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 2: Is that I keep it real with myself.

1575
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: What I mean, like like if I'm falling off if

1576
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: I'm doing something bad, like I dis myself, like I'm

1577
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: like hey, yay hey, I'm like, hey, hey, yo, you

1578
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: didn't you didn't do this, this and that. Said. One

1579
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: thing is I'm my worst first critic. Like if I

1580
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: say to myself, all right, cool, you know you're two

1581
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: hundred and five pounds.

1582
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: I want you to wake up and be one ninety nine.

1583
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: I want you to do ten piles ten miles an

1584
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: hour and then going to sauna, put on a sauna soup. No,

1585
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: don't drink water till five years. I really will get

1586
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: dedicated just like that. That's what I like about myself.

1587
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: Discipline is when I want to be Yeah, but I

1588
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: could also be disciplined in the worst way. I can

1589
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: also say, hey, I want to I'm gonna have fun

1590
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: for three days straight.

1591
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: And I'll do it.

1592
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: So but that's what I like the most is like

1593
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: when it's comes time to like to like knock it out,

1594
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:07,799
Speaker 1: I'll get focused.

1595
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: No one could get in my way, like not even

1596
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: my wife.

1597
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: My wife admires that about me because like when I

1598
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: say I'm not drinking for thirty days or I'm not

1599
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: doing you know nothing, and then I encourage my wife.

1600
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I pour her glass of wine and

1601
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: she's like, no, it's okay. I'm like, no, no, I

1602
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: need I don't need you to change. I need me

1603
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: to change. I need me to get back and the focus.

1604
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: And so that's that's what I like about myself the most.

1605
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: That's super dope.

1606
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 4: Okay, in real life, what are you no longer available for?

1607
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: I am no longer cigarettes. Yeah, yes, I'm ten years

1608
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: but I'm not even available like my friend Sonny, he's

1609
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: my friend. And I started smoking American spirits. I stopped

1610
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 1: spoking ten years ago, but I stopped smoking American spirits

1611
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: because Americans. I started smoking American spirits because they like

1612
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 1: call it water cigarettes. They quote unquote say it's organic cigarettes.

1613
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: But this is the cigarette that you're supposed to be

1614
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: on to get off. Him and Dave Chappelle smoked this

1615
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: cigarette and they are not playing it on getting off.

1616
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: So but.

1617
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't bother me as much as it used.

1618
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: To, like I used to like crave it still. And

1619
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean I went to see Dave Chappelle three nights

1620
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: in a row in the hard Rock and when I

1621
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: tell you, he smoked every five minutes. Yeah, No, he

1622
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: smokes a lot, and I mean he was smoking with

1623
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: a smoke like he was like I'm looking at him

1624
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: like damn. And I used to be like that. So

1625
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking like the old version of myself. I remember

1626
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: hogh ninety seven. We used to smoke in the bathroom

1627
01:15:53,720 --> 01:16:00,759
Speaker 1: like yo, downstairs, go downstairs, like yo, what Yeah, that's

1628
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: what I'm not here for. Like that. The cigarettes, that ship,

1629
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: that that that was something that part of my life.

1630
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: I even had a Newport chain I was. I remember

1631
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: that control man like ya. I used to think I had.

1632
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: My cigarette habbit was so bad right that I couldn't

1633
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: fly straight from New York to LA I would have

1634
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: to connect in Houston. And that's how bad my cigarette

1635
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: habit was. I had never took a straight flight until

1636
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: ten years ago.

1637
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:27,879
Speaker 4: Because you needed to stop for a cigarette.

1638
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh I needed to stop for a cigarette. Wow. And

1639
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: now that I look at people, I'm looking at I

1640
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 1: kicked that ship.

1641
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 5: Now I'm glad you kicked that happy that you can't

1642
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 5: be twenty twenty five.

1643
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 4: You can't run. There's no way you're run the marathon

1644
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 4: smoking cigarettes.

1645
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not even a lot of you. You

1646
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: was one of the reasons too. We was at the

1647
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: station one day and I was like, you got a cigarette.

1648
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: I was like, that was so ten years ago. I

1649
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: was like, like, damn man. I was like, oh shit,

1650
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: but it was sudden, so slimmer like that. I was like,

1651
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: she's right, yo, I've been doing this too. Yeahs like when.

1652
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 5: That was probably that was probably in two thousands. I

1653
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 5: said that to you in twenty ten. I probably said that,

1654
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 5: what do you think in real life your parents, because

1655
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 5: you talk about lot about your growing up and the

1656
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 5: fact that you had this household, and what do you

1657
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 5: think they're most proud of about you?

1658
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 4: Have they ever told you that?

1659
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: Well, my mother, my mother, My mother has to be

1660
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: most proud of me from my relentless things like like

1661
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: she she knows, she knows when I snapped onto like focusedness,

1662
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: she knows that, and obviously she likes that version of

1663
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 1: me better.

1664
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 2: But I believe that's what it is.

1665
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: It's like that they love that, and they love that,

1666
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, my family camaraderie. Like you know, like every

1667
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: year I do a family trip, and I do it

1668
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: mainly most of the time on my birthday, So I

1669
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: don't even celebrate my Birthday, Like I brung them to

1670
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: turch and Keikos, the Prince House. I brought them to

1671
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico and El Dorado and like, you know, just

1672
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: just maybe the I don't want to see the foods

1673
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: of my labor, but maybe you know, the same house

1674
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: that can guard Dashian rents and you know they hang

1675
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: out with with with with their family. I do the

1676
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: same exact thing, you know what I'm saying, But I

1677
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,560
Speaker 1: hang out with people that's not famous. You know what

1678
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I hang out with my aunts, and

1679
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 1: you know, so I think that's what your family loves

1680
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: the most. Is like like right now, I want to

1681
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: spend Thanksgiving together. I want everybody. I want my whole

1682
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: family spend Thanksgiving together. But then that's a dilemma itself, right,

1683
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: because how the hell I'm gonna hire a chef on

1684
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving When you got all these strong black women, they're

1685
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: not gonna let a chef. They're not gonna But then

1686
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't want them to work on Thanksgiving.

1687
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 5: Well that's part of the joy, you know, Okay, put

1688
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 5: them in a nice kitchen in a nice, a nice place.

1689
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: I know my mother she's gonna see, like somebody like

1690
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, cooking sweeper Tata pie with marshmallows in there,

1691
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: and she's goes, whoa does that?

1692
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 2: Does that collar? Greens have turkey in there?

1693
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: Oh no, you gotta hamming it all.

1694
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: Take that out, like you know what I mean?

1695
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, so I can see that, So I gotta

1696
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how to navigate that, but to answer

1697
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: a question thoroughly is my neck? Yeah, And I think

1698
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: that the more that I, you know, uh, grew up,

1699
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: I realized how much more family is worth, you know

1700
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like like just sitting around and like

1701
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: like I even like me and I even enjoy arguing

1702
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: with my sister like like like it's like something that

1703
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: we did as kids. So like every like you know,

1704
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: six months to a year, like we'll have like a

1705
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 1: blowout argument and then the next day we like it

1706
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,879
Speaker 1: didn't happen, and you like that. Yeah, I mean comes balance,

1707
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: it's kind of balance. Like I need her to always

1708
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: tell me I ain't a piece. I'm a piece of ship.

1709
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: And I'm always her little brother, and I'm like, you

1710
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: know what I am. I will never grow up being

1711
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: your little brother. And I guess what, Sometimes I do

1712
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: need to hear that. I don't need to hear that

1713
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: I was. I was a bad kid and she helped

1714
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: me down. Fuck it. I act like I don't like

1715
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: it at the time, and the next day we just

1716
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: act like it's nothing happened. We just go to eat

1717
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: corn bread together. It's okay. Oh that's family. What about

1718
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: your dad? What do you think your dad is most

1719
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: proud of My dad is most proud of me holding

1720
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 1: out my mother. That was something that he told me.

1721
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: He was like he wanted I'm not sure if my

1722
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 1: father knew that he was sick or this was just

1723
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: something that he was saying, but he was like, yo,

1724
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: I wanted you to protect your mother, you know what

1725
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean. I got all calls and I don't know

1726
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: if he meant that physically or I don't know if he

1727
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: meant that financially. I don't know if he's meant it.

1728
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 4: But he always tell you that.

1729
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, he told me that as a child, and he

1730
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: told me that like when I came home. When I

1731
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: came home my father, my father thought I was lying,

1732
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: you mean, because because he didn't know what a rapper was,

1733
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 1: and I kept saying I'm a rapper.

1734
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 2: I got a whole album about it.

1735
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: He was like what he's looking at me like like

1736
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: he thought I was saying at the fool of my mother.

1737
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: And then I remember when Superdug came out and we

1738
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: were in Seattle in Washington and it was the BET

1739
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: I believe it was, and it was on BT. Is

1740
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 1: not like I like clicked on BT and it was

1741
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: just on BT. And then my father sees the video.

1742
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: He goes, he goes, come here, and I'm like, what's up?

1743
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: And he just grabbed me. It's probably like the first time,

1744
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: like like he really like and he was like, I'm

1745
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: so sorry. Man. I was like, what what are you

1746
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: sorry for? Because he had never told me, but he

1747
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: was like I.

1748
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: Thought he was lying.

1749
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 1: Man. He's like, I thought this is something you was

1750
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: telling moms and I just phoning it with it because

1751
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: I thought you was you gonna be a piece of shit,

1752
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: like me saying you gonna be a piece of shit.

1753
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 2: I was just like, no, pops, no really, I'm really

1754
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: doing it.

1755
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 4: This is the number one record, And that's amazing?

1756
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: Was it? He got to see the super Dog one

1757
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: time and then like uh, two months later he passed away.

1758
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: Oh wow?

1759
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 4: Was it was sudden? Or did you know what's gonna happen?

1760
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: Because we was on tour, and this is where really,

1761
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: really really thank Chris Lighty. I fell apart. You know, obviously,

1762
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: you know I grew up with my father, but I

1763
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: was on a world tour. I just went number one

1764
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: Super Doug the album, and you know, so Chris had

1765
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: to come see me. Chris said, Chris is managing at

1766
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: the time. Chris managed me ship to me. Right now,

1767
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: he's still managing me, but he came to see me.

1768
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, you know he met my father and

1769
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: he's like, one thing that he knew about my father

1770
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: was my father wouldn't want me to quit.

1771
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 2: So I had to complete this tour.

1772
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,919
Speaker 1: But then I had to pay for like the funeral,

1773
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: So I didn't know how to pay for a funeral.

1774
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that. And then you know,

1775
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: obviously he had staff Claudine and Joseph Lorie Dublin's and

1776
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 1: they all like stepped up and like did that for me.

1777
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: But I remember me going to the to the even

1778
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: to the funeral, and me being so numb because I

1779
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: actually had to go to the the burial whatever it is.

1780
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: The day before that, I had to go to the

1781
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: fruit and then I had to catch a flight that night,

1782
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, and it was like

1783
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: I had never grieved. I had never grieved, And and

1784
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: then right after that punt, it was like, it's like,

1785
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: this is the best, worst year of my life, nineteen

1786
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: ninety eight, go platinum. I do everything that I want

1787
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: to do, and I finally get to meet an industry

1788
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: friend and we become so close, Like when we become

1789
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,799
Speaker 1: so close that we actually called Joe the fun Police

1790
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: like we used to be like yo, Like Joe hates

1791
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: this story, but he knows it's true. Like he wanted

1792
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: us to get money, and so I lost him and

1793
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: I lost my father. And then I was supposed to

1794
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: go in and make this album that gave me all

1795
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: this money. So that's the reason why I say, but

1796
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: mether Flint dropped my whole colasso stop. I can't believe

1797
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: I fucked up and made a half fast album. My

1798
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: excuse is my pops just died, and I ain't want

1799
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: to make music. My pops just die. So that's pretty

1800
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: much what it was. And so I never really grieved

1801
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: at ah. Yeah, so did you ever? Oh no, I

1802
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:13,759
Speaker 1: noticed it sounds crazy because it's it's an industry friend.

1803
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: But I don't think I'll ever get over pun, like

1804
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: like like.

1805
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: I've anything said about Pun.

1806
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: I watch it like even if it's bad, like well,

1807
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: even if it's like somebody opposed to Joe, you know

1808
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: what I mean, Because you know, it's a room or

1809
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: that by the way, I wrote with the rumor, but

1810
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: it's the room that Normale just listens to everything that

1811
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 1: Joe says. And I can see how that looks. I

1812
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: can see how it looks because I wrote with everything

1813
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: Joe says. But if Joe was wrong, I would tell him.

1814
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell him, and probably I was like

1815
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: I can do that to him, but but yeah, I

1816
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: pardon was the first person that made me realize that

1817
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: this is a family, like you can have a family

1818
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: outside of your family, you know what I mean. And

1819
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: and my father, I'll never get over it because I

1820
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: wanted him to see the fruits of my label. I

1821
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: wanted him like he got to see the video, but

1822
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: he didn't get to fill the video. He didn't get

1823
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: to feel the success. He didn't get to feel turks

1824
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: and kgos, he didn't get to feel like you know,

1825
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,440
Speaker 1: us just having fun and like, you know, the Santiago

1826
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: family being something proud of, like you know, Santiago family

1827
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: and for all though, like well, you know what my

1828
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: uncle was was the mayor. My uncle's a crack ad,

1829
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: now you know what I'm saying. He's on the street,

1830
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: on the street, hey man, I like him. Oh my god.

1831
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: Every time I go see him, he's yeah yeah, yeah,

1832
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: like I mean he does. He doesn't feel sorry for usself.

1833
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Like our family name in

1834
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico at that time was like kind of like

1835
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: fucked up, and I like it's like I reinstalled our

1836
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: family name, like the Santiago is something to be proud of,

1837
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, so yeah, that's

1838
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:03,480
Speaker 1: what I would want my father to see. See that. Yeah,

1839
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: and sorry to keep taking around, but I would want

1840
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 1: Pun to see this era.

1841
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 4: Man, your podcast, your pun would have yo.

1842
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: First of all, I would have wanted Pun on Twitter.

1843
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 5: Pun on Twitter would have been crazy. He'd have got

1844
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 5: canceled a few times though, just for glad you'd have

1845
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 5: got canceled.

1846
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I think Twitter would have loved him,

1847
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,560
Speaker 1: But I think Twitter would be like your pun just

1848
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: say it this way, because fun is just hilarious. Him

1849
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter, him on Instagram would have been crazy.

1850
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 5: I never realized how much loss you had because you

1851
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 5: had those two things happen. And then and then Chris

1852
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 5: was a heartbreak into everybody.

1853
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Chris.

1854
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 1: You know Chris's story. U sorry, like take a little

1855
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: wide turn, but Chris's story I never believed, like him

1856
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: killing herself, like you know, whether it was whatever type

1857
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 1: of problems that he had. He's either a great actor,

1858
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: which which is quite possibly, but I didn't see. I

1859
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: didn't see none of that. And you know me and

1860
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: fifty you know, obviously I was one of the like fifties,

1861
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: very f these very two features in the industry was

1862
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: with me, and you know, we spoke about it at

1863
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: Chris Well, No, I spoke about that, but it was

1864
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: something about funny about chris wedding and me and him

1865
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: exchanged words. And then when Chris passed away, I asked him.

1866
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: I was like, do you think Chris took his own life?

1867
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: And he was like, no, if they said that, and

1868
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't think that neither. But I

1869
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: know it's a touchy situation because it's kind of like

1870
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 1: when you say that, you're kind of like blaming other people,

1871
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's a touch of situation.

1872
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't believe that, like and like so

1873
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: instead of grieving his.

1874
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 2: His death, I'm always thinking like was there foul play?

1875
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: Was there? Like and you know, the police didn't find nothing.

1876
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: So but yeah, there's really no resolve for you if

1877
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: you don't know.

1878
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but normally how do you go through all

1879
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 5: that and not have any and not grieve any of

1880
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 5: those losses?

1881
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 1: I grieve it.

1882
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: I just don't agree with it in public, you know

1883
01:27:59,040 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1884
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Okay, don't you do?

1885
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1886
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: I do, of course, but you know, you know and

1887
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: like yeah, I just I just grieve in private, which

1888
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: which doesn't help sometimes too, because you need to grieve

1889
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: to somebody, like you know what I'm saying, You need

1890
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: to like like even this this, like I love this

1891
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: because it's therapy for me, you know what I'm saying.

1892
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: Like you asked me questions, I don't be asked, you

1893
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,879
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like for me, it's like sometimes

1894
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: you just have to And yeah, with that situation, I

1895
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 1: know it's a lot of DMX Okay, yeah, and DMX.

1896
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 4: Know honestly a lot of anybody who came up in

1897
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 4: our time.

1898
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 5: There's so many people that we knew came up with.

1899
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 5: It's like and to have lost so many and all

1900
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 5: the stories that went with it, all the emotion that

1901
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 5: goes with it.

1902
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: Let me tell you.

1903
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 4: Know how many funerals I have spoken at in the.

1904
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: Past two years and Clark kNs.

1905
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 5: In mister c fat Man's school, Serve Gotti, I've spoke

1906
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 5: at all four of those funerals.

1907
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you about DMX. You know, we're

1908
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: DMX just on the road. We did everything. This is

1909
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 1: like the last four weeks of his life. So he

1910
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: calls me, He's like, can I come to the crib?

1911
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 1: So I'm making the DMX impression.

1912
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 4: That's actually not best.

1913
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 1: It's not terrible the cribs.

1914
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, cool, no problem. Last night he

1915
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: came in my crib.

1916
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: He cooked crab legs and beer, and I didn't. I

1917
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 1: forgot to tum he cooked them. Yeah, and if I

1918
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: got to tell my wife, my wife just walks in

1919
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: the house. It's just sees DMX cooking crab legs, and

1920
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn babe, I forgot to text you. Like

1921
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: She's like, you're not gonna text me that DMX is

1922
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: in our house cooking krab legs and fucking beer. And

1923
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm like all right, cool. So then he's like, I'm

1924
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: coming to the crib, like exit, this is a different crib.

1925
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't I don't live in that one, So come

1926
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: over here. So he's like, you got games, and I

1927
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: took offense to it. I was like, coase, I got

1928
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,600
Speaker 1: PlayStation two, I got Xbox, I got everything. He's like,

1929
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: the fuck like Monopoly. I'm like, yeah, you knowing a

1930
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 1: goddamn Monopoly. I'm like sending my kids to the store

1931
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: coat Monopoly.

1932
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 2: He comes over with Janger and.

1933
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: I realized all the success in the world that he had,

1934
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 1: what made him happy was doing normal ship like him

1935
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: getting on the grill, him cooking burgers, him.

1936
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 2: He was so at peace, and I remember.

1937
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: It was a day he challenged j He challenged him

1938
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: and them, and then Swiss called me because Swiss school.

1939
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: I posted and Swiss called me and was like he

1940
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: was a dog and I'm like yeah, and I put

1941
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: it on and then we hit Jay by mistake, like

1942
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: I pocketed out of them, and Jay text me back.

1943
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 1: I guess he's gonna go fast. He must have heard

1944
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 1: the dog in the background was like, hey, like, tell

1945
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 1: my brother, I don't want to be in competition. Will

1946
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: I remember how humble Jay made hisself. He was like, yo,

1947
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: tell him, he's my brother. I don't want to be

1948
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: in competition with him. And then he and they asked

1949
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: me on a film. He's like, tell him come off.

1950
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 1: We're like, yo, he's waving a white flag. Leave it

1951
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: at all.

1952
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 2: Well, for the last four weeks of ex life, he

1953
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 2: was with.

1954
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: Me every day. I didn't know that, yeah, because he

1955
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 1: wanted to start a podcast. And oh my god, yo, yes, right,

1956
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 1: he wanted to start a podcast. So I was meeting

1957
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: him every day and I was telling him, your podcast

1958
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,600
Speaker 1: should be a prayer. Oh like, it should be like

1959
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: at least start and ended with that, you know, and

1960
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: say the truth. Dog, I don't even want you to

1961
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: talk to nobody and yourself. Like I was like, oh,

1962
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: that ship, and so we was putting it together and

1963
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 1: and I remember this is all on film as well.

1964
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: X said, Yo, I'm going to Atlanta. He didn't tell

1965
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: me he was going to New York. He said he

1966
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: was going to because I was. I can't say I

1967
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:53,640
Speaker 1: would have forbidd him from going to New York, but

1968
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 1: I would have been like.

1969
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 2: It was, he was so focused, he was so much

1970
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 2: into the zone.

1971
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: He was getting big, and like you know how when

1972
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: people get big sometimes that's a bad thing, right, But

1973
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 1: if you were like, you know, on these these substances

1974
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: and you're getting big, that means that means this is

1975
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: out your system. So the fact that you're getting big

1976
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: is actually a good sign in this case. And he

1977
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: didn't he did not want to go to New York.

1978
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: I knew that, but he didn't tell me about the

1979
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: New York part. He facetied me in Atlanta, and then

1980
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: when he went to New York, I can't say that

1981
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 1: I knew it.

1982
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 4: You think he was like he was still battling.

1983
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part Listen.

1984
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: You can meet the guy at dunkin Donuts, right, and

1985
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 1: a guy dunking Donuts can offer you a glazed donut,

1986
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 1: and you love glazed donuts. But you don't know this

1987
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:41,799
Speaker 1: guy dunking Donuts.

1988
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 2: You say, you listen, guy, I'm gonna just take my

1989
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: coffee and I'm gonna leave right.

1990
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: But now this guy this this person that he was

1991
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 1: in fifth grade school with, this person that you used

1992
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,719
Speaker 1: to double dutch with actually for that same glaze donut.

1993
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 1: And they come up with the Christmy Kreme and they're

1994
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 1: saying and and he was saying, damn man, I was

1995
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: the seventh grade with this motherfucker. All right, I take

1996
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: it to Christian clean glow. You can't say no to

1997
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: certain people. And that's the reason why we are so

1998
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: in danger in our hometown. So many rappers are in

1999
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 1: danger in their hometown. And it's not even because like that.

2000
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 2: It's danger. It's because you're in a place that you.

2001
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Don't belong no more.

2002
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 2: You have outrownness.

2003
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: I remember me coming to my hood one time and

2004
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: the god name is fat Wise, and I would park

2005
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: my bends every single day and I would go to

2006
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 1: the hood. And he pulled me to the side one

2007
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: day and he was like, do you know you don't

2008
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: sleep here? And I was like, he was like, yo,

2009
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 1: you give them hope. You come in here, you pull

2010
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: up with the bins. They see there, and it's the

2011
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: minute you're out they fight with each other. He's like, man,

2012
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 1: if you go come around here, park your fucking bends

2013
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 1: around the corner and ride a fucking pedal bike. And

2014
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 1: I did that, and I was like that made me

2015
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: even more normal. And I would park my bens at

2016
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 1: the White Guards and I would come around and I'll

2017
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: be known. And that's what X was. That's what X embodied,

2018
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

2019
01:33:56,120 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 2: Like, well, he X never needed security, you know what

2020
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

2021
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: Like he was he was ill, so like every day,

2022
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 1: like we was doing a podcast, and when he went

2023
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 1: to New York, I just knew something was wrong.

2024
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, God, bless, What do you think happens? I always

2025
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 5: I struggle with that sometimes because we lose all these

2026
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 5: people recently, and it's like, how does it affect you?

2027
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 5: What do you think happens when you're gone? Do you

2028
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 5: still feel like you hear from these folks? Do you

2029
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 5: still feel at present in your life?

2030
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 1: I'll tell you like this, I don't know about everybody,

2031
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: but I know DMX was ordained by God. Dm X

2032
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 1: had a did what it's called. And I called one

2033
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 1: of the pastors that I knew in Jamaica queens because

2034
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 1: it happened to him in Jamaica queens. Excuse me, let

2035
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: me give my sister a props called my sister to

2036
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: call a pastor, that our pastor, and I remember him

2037
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: going to see X in the hospital and him just

2038
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: coming back and and giving me the update. He's like

2039
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 1: that man is with God, not like he passed on

2040
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 1: to God, but like like he he went and prayed

2041
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 1: with X. And when X heard the word of God,

2042
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 1: he woke up. And I remember that's what the pastor

2043
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: telling me, Like, Yo, he's like God is with him?

2044
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: Like what like I came in worried, And so I

2045
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: say that to say, when you say, what do you

2046
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,839
Speaker 1: think happens? If this is a happening that exist, DMX

2047
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 1: is there, He's there. He's there. He might be rolling

2048
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 1: blunts with Timson like, but he's there. But he's there

2049
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure he's there. All right.

2050
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 5: This is what we asked everybody on the pot in

2051
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 5: the bowl, you pickets, I'm gonna ask it to you.

2052
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 4: If God would have text you right now, what would

2053
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 4: it say?

2054
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 1: Good y'all keep going and got a lot more to do.

2055
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 1: And it's gonna sound very very low, but you know,

2056
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 1: I go to restaurants like Sardelli's and I see people

2057
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: in there and they be like, you know, I'll come

2058
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: here for you. I go to restaurants like Carbone, people say,

2059
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: I've never heard of Carbones, heard of you. I go

2060
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: to liquor stores and people say, yo, you know what. Uh?

2061
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: I drink abiki because I see you drinking and bikie.

2062
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 1: I go and I drink saki and the people so

2063
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm in fluent you and a lot of things that

2064
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 1: is negative and I don't realize that, right, I just

2065
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,839
Speaker 1: this is just ship that I like. Right. If I

2066
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: keep you know, come over with this Cuban coffee from

2067
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 1: from one throwing them, then some people are gonna come

2068
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 1: over here to cor Gables and corporate way they're gonna

2069
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: be looking for. So my goal is to have that

2070
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: same influence or something positive, you know what I'm saying,

2071
01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 1: like like like again I said to you, like, I'm

2072
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: not going to promote it to people who who are

2073
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 1: not runners, but that's cool. But for the people who's running, oh,

2074
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk their head off. I'm gonna put it.

2075
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 2: Down because that's what I want to do.

2076
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: I want to be known as much as I can

2077
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 1: be known for you know, fatty foods and you know,

2078
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 1: great alcohol. I want to be I want to I

2079
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: want to show some positive too.

2080
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 4: Well, I will offer you this as somebody who's seen

2081
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 4: your whole career.

2082
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, your entire career for the exception.

2083
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 5: And also from our conversation today, I think, Okay, maybe,

2084
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 5: you know, maybe you've influence on some not not the

2085
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 5: most positive things, but your influence goes beyond that. Your influence,

2086
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 5: I'm sure has inspired people to want to get out

2087
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 5: the hood, to want to pivot in their careers and

2088
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 5: not be afraid to take chances and do different things.

2089
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 5: To be a good friend, to be a good family man,

2090
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 5: to be a good husband, like that is all stuff

2091
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 5: that is super positive. And I'm sure you have had

2092
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 5: great influence in people's lives.

2093
01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you should take I want to keep going.

2094
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 1: Like you know again, you know, we started the Drink

2095
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 1: Champs network. I know we got to get out of here.

2096
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 1: So I'm okay, we started the Drink Champs network. We're

2097
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: trying to finalize or deal with Angela Simon's interview. Oh yeah,

2098
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 1: let's get THEAE time I got.

2099
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 2: You know, I'm such a man. I can't I can't

2100
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:18,959
Speaker 2: ask a girl about.

2101
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: The relationship, like like I'm like, I'm like that old

2102
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 1: school I got to get out of that. But like,

2103
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 1: I was like, because we interviewed her right after you, right,

2104
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 1: and I was it was for the run Champ show

2105
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 1: and I was jogging with her and I was like,

2106
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 1: I was so happy that she asked me that, and

2107
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: she goes, she goes why, I was like, I just

2108
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: as a man, I just I wouldn't have been able

2109
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 1: because I'm cool with him too. Yeah, yeah, I kind

2110
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: of don't want to know the story. Yeah, I kind

2111
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: of like cool, but we've got to drink. Champs Network.

2112
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 1: We got a grumpy old man. We got smoke Champ. Wait,

2113
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: what's gonna be old man? Two grumpy old men talking

2114
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: about grumpy old man ship? It's very grump is it

2115
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 1: out already? Yeah? Yeah, I see that one. Well to

2116
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: gruffo men, grumios right, gruffio g. We got smoke Champs

2117
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: where young really Mike Booth and ching bing, we got

2118
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 1: uh myth Bleak is doing phenomenal out there.

2119
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 4: Please do.

2120
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 1: I love him as a podcast and I ain't gonna

2121
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 1: lie to you, and we are listen, we do not

2122
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 1: We meet check in with the Big Hommie to make

2123
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: sure because we don't want no prop of course, not no, no,

2124
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 1: who else we got. I think he does a.

2125
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 4: Great job of sharing but not violating.

2126
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 2: But I like to think that I don't.

2127
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 1: Obviously I didn't, but I made podcasts kind of cool,

2128
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:41,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like where people like you know,

2129
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 1: can smoke weed and drink. And you know, I'm looking

2130
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 1: at Joe and Jada's podcast right now, and you know,

2131
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: Jada's drinking Ace of Spade and then just looking and

2132
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, back then, nobody wanted to do that.

2133
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: You see the influence, you see your and they both

2134
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 1: they're both they're both under me.

2135
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 2: Jada and Joe, they're both under me.

2136
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: I created that show. Jada's been on Drink Chants eight times,

2137
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: Joe's been on the Drink Chants eight times.

2138
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:08,640
Speaker 2: By God, jolly g they finally got it together. I

2139
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 2: salute them.

2140
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 1: I commend them.

2141
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 2: I think it's is.

2142
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:16,639
Speaker 1: Fun. I think the fact that I Cam and Mace,

2143
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the karate they're showing.

2144
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,799
Speaker 2: I think that we're showing that.

2145
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 1: You can age gracefully and you don't got to put

2146
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 1: all your your eggs in one basket. I love this

2147
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: podcast space. I love what we're doing. I love with

2148
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 1: even even if you don't agree with me and I

2149
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 1: don't agree with you. It's not every podcast I like.

2150
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: In fact, I like true true crime podcasts. Yes, I'm

2151
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: that dude, Like I'm that dude. But I'm glad that

2152
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 1: hip hop has made you know the space where where

2153
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: it's just like this, this is different from your radio show,

2154
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: right from your radio show.

2155
01:40:58,400 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 4: So that was the whole thing for me.

2156
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 5: It's like, I I wanted to have different conversations a

2157
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 5: little bit broader than the stuff I was talking.

2158
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:05,799
Speaker 4: I still love the culture and hip hop.

2159
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 5: And all that and that, and I have that with

2160
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 5: my radio show, but as I had different life experiences,

2161
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 5: I really wanted a platform to be able to have

2162
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 5: those type of conversations. Yeah, well I just say, fuck

2163
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 5: that shit hurt my feelings, ship, fuck this was hard

2164
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 5: as hell, I'm going through this, or just real life

2165
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 5: conversations about real life things and and so. But it's

2166
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 5: always been a little bit kind of my brand, even

2167
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 5: when I was talking to even if were talking hip hop,

2168
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 5: I still was always interested in the human being behind

2169
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 5: this is behind the story. So it's just an elevated

2170
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 5: version of that for me, I think, yeah, right, yep.

2171
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 1: So like again everybody that's podcasts and I know, I

2172
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 1: like took a shot and I was like, my podcast

2173
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 1: is the only one that matters.

2174
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 2: That was a moment, like.

2175
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like like like.

2176
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 4: We're talking shit, It's okay, what is the what is

2177
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 4: the key?

2178
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 1: The key?

2179
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 5: Let's let's and with this because because as in your

2180
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 5: seat on your throne, on your podcast throne, with your

2181
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 5: podcast empire, what is take away all that, the accomplishments, whatever,

2182
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 5: but just the actual connection to people, what people are

2183
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 5: drawn to. Like, what do you think is the key

2184
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 5: to being a fucking good podcaster?

2185
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 1: Well, I would say that the key for me is

2186
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 1: my show. Our show is about giving people they flowers.

2187
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 1: I want people to be appreciated. Now, this is one

2188
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 1: of the best complements I've got. And I'm not going

2189
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: to name these groups, but I was in a party

2190
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: one day and I seen somebody who had absolutely nothing

2191
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 1: going on. It's about absolutely nothing going on, and I

2192
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 1: wanted to see my power and I was like, yo,

2193
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: what are you doing on Saturday? And the guy was like,

2194
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: I ain't doing shit? And I was like, can you

2195
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 1: make it to Miami? The guy said yeah, So he

2196
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 1: made it to Miami. We interviewed him and he called me.

2197
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: He called me crying, and I was like, you know

2198
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 1: what's going on. He's like, yo, I'm getting my quota back.

2199
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: You know, you get to like a certain extent, twenty

2200
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: five thousand, fifty thousand, fifteen thousand, ten thousand, twelve thousand,

2201
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: and then you fall off. They offer you twenty five hundred,

2202
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 1: but you want to pay the real the rent, you

2203
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: want to pay the mortgage, you want to pay the whatever.

2204
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 1: So you take these numbers and then what I was doing,

2205
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,599
Speaker 1: this is the biggest compliment. And me and FN say

2206
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: all the time, we don't really brag about it, but

2207
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: when we put these people on our platform, they numbers

2208
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: go back up to what they was. You know, I

2209
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 1: give you one example, because they're rich. Okay, I give

2210
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 1: you one example. Eric Sherman. Eric Sherman called me and

2211
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 1: was like, yo.

2212
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 4: Yo, the fact that you still say Sherman and his

2213
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 4: name is Sermon.

2214
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, if you have known you have been jacking

2215
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 5: that Pan's no name decade, yeah, cat, who is your friend?

2216
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 2: But Eric Sherman hit me on.

2217
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: My bad. He said, send me your bank account and

2218
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean? He was like

2219
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: eat pm D. We we got like so many shows,

2220
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: and it's like yo, and I was like, that's the

2221
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 1: exact opposite of what I want to happen. It's like

2222
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm not taking nothing because then that's that's something I

2223
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: did that out of you know. And when I tell you, like,

2224
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: that's like our biggest compliment is like people calling us

2225
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 1: and saying, yo, man, they're paying me for shows again,

2226
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 1: and so that's that's that's that's that's my favorite. Like, yeah,

2227
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 1: I get that well, especially like like I said, I

2228
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: want to see this guy's name so bad, Well, I

2229
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 1: don't want to. I want him to feel like that's

2230
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 1: what he thought I thought about him, you know.

2231
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 2: But like it's been times.

2232
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: I kid you, not like I just I'll just see

2233
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 1: somebody that I'm like that you like, can you because

2234
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 1: the best thing is for them to come to Miami, Right,

2235
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 1: There's something about letting your guard down when you're in Miami.

2236
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 2: New York is one of the best places in the world.

2237
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:56,680
Speaker 1: Is the best city in the world. But you're a

2238
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: point in New York, You're looking around, somebody trying to

2239
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 1: pickpocket you. Somebody's playing three card Marley, somebody's offering you

2240
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: a fucking metro card. Someone's you know, it's it's so

2241
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 1: much shit going on in New York, But in Miami,

2242
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,839
Speaker 1: you look, there's a beautiful person right there, there's cars

2243
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:16,640
Speaker 1: over there, and you go like this, and then that's

2244
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: why I come in and I get you.

2245
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,799
Speaker 4: So that is the kid. Wait till they're vulnerable and their.

2246
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 1: Guards are down, and then get them, get them.

2247
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:31,679
Speaker 2: But I thoroughly like closing up this. I thoroughly thank

2248
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 2: hip hop.

2249
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I thank you. I think

2250
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: hip hop because I know you notice. But I'm gonna

2251
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 1: say something. When I really fell in love with the

2252
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: family of hip hop was that hot night in Jamaica

2253
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 1: when it was all of us in a in a

2254
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: bus and it didn't matter who was who at that time,

2255
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: we was just riding.

2256
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to find footage of this. This is

2257
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 4: a trip. This is a trip. We're all babies, we're

2258
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 4: all young twenties.

2259
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: Yep, he's got a pop.

2260
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 4: His song rules just popping.

2261
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: One twelve, one twelve.

2262
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 4: I think Jay was there.

2263
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 1: It was Jay, not It's birthday.

2264
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 4: It was Jay's birthday.

2265
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 5: We're all in our young twenties and the radio station

2266
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 5: does an event in Jamaica.

2267
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 4: Hot Jamaica, and we didn't we had we weren't.

2268
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 5: Really like world travel that I had a picture of

2269
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 5: me and you Actually I had a fun T shirt on.

2270
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 4: I have a picture of me.

2271
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: I got a rest right in my hand.

2272
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 4: But I also have a video a lot of video.

2273
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 2: For that I remember.

2274
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 1: And but that was the first time we're hip hop

2275
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 1: for like a fraternity to be right, say that right

2276
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 1: like you know, like it felt like like we were one,

2277
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, and I didn't feel

2278
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: like that before. Before I felt like an industry. And

2279
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:46,759
Speaker 1: that was like the first thing that like these benture

2280
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: capital corporate companies right now, they're not gonna understand that,

2281
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and not gonna understand like it's.

2282
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 4: A difference between business and culture.

2283
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: Yes, So at that time I felt like that was

2284
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: business and culture. I felt like I felt like that

2285
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 1: trip in itself was like yo, I felt I was

2286
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: always in love with hip hop. I was always in

2287
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 1: love with the business. I was always in love with

2288
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,640
Speaker 1: the music. But that's would let me fall in love

2289
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:11,600
Speaker 1: with the people, you know what I'm saying, Because I

2290
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 1: was like, damn you know, I was always told, fuck

2291
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: these people in the industry, they're not real people. And

2292
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, all right, so keep your distance. Then

2293
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: we went to Jamaica. We played volleyball and basketball and

2294
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 1: playing spades, and we was drinking and it was like

2295
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 1: everybody is normal.

2296
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 4: Like everybody it was you know, it was community.

2297
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 1: It was community. Like I missed that, like you know

2298
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, I missed that. I missed like And

2299
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 1: then I started to go into like gaping conventions and

2300
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 1: impact advices, and then Reno and I started to realize that,

2301
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 1: you know what, it's crazy when you see other people

2302
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 1: in the industry, you stop, y'all have a drink to talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2303
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: y'all kick it and we live we live in a

2304
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 1: messed up industry. But I'm gonna tell you something. It's

2305
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 1: way more good than bad. Is way more good than bad.

2306
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 1: And but that was the first time I realized that

2307
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: this is a lot easier. My career would be a

2308
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 1: lot easier if I get along with everybody, you know

2309
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. And you've been doing it ever since, Yes,

2310
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 1: I've been doing it, But I want to end it

2311
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: with this. This, This is the funniest shit about it was.

2312
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 1: I remember, it's the only time to reason why he

2313
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 1: hates me. I tell the story and he says I didn't,

2314
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 1: but it's the only time I beat jay Z on stage.

2315
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:32,640
Speaker 1: I stood of gods because I've never got this and

2316
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm taking this.

2317
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I remember he landed.

2318
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:40,599
Speaker 1: It was his birthday, and I remember him ordering crystal.

2319
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: It's like, you give me like sixteen dollars of crystal.

2320
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:45,680
Speaker 1: And I remember the Jamaican guys They're just looking at

2321
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 1: him so scared because they didn't have the heart to

2322
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 1: tell him we don't have no crystal service, and he

2323
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: was just sitting there and they just stood there. And

2324
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:56,799
Speaker 1: now I remember him drinking red stripe. And I remember

2325
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:00,959
Speaker 1: Findy was my hype man. Findy who is FABS manager.

2326
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: Findy was my hype man. Findy was like just just

2327
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: uh uh, just just just do the records. He had

2328
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 1: rehearsed with the DJ and he was just like just

2329
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 1: performing the records. And Findy was doing all that ship

2330
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:19,560
Speaker 1: clean in the house and people like, yo, it's Quezy

2331
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: and the house. So I mean, I'm just what what

2332
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 1: what what I'm doing all these records and Findy is

2333
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: just going as the first time I felt like I

2334
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 1: beat him, Jermaine Duprix, everybody on stage. I felt like

2335
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: I won that one that one years one we do

2336
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 1: with jay Z and j D. That's well, you've managed

2337
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 1: pretty good for yourself.

2338
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:42,600
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm happy.

2339
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying.

2340
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 4: How happy are you on the scale of one to ten.

2341
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 2: On a one to ten, I would say I'm a

2342
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:49,680
Speaker 2: seven because.

2343
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: That that last three has a lot to do with

2344
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 1: me challenging myself for this, this marathon, and me doing

2345
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:02,160
Speaker 1: things that I'm uncomfortable it comfortably, you know what I'm saying.

2346
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,480
Speaker 1: It's a lot of things, uh, that I have to accomplish.

2347
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: It's a lot of things that I have to go through,

2348
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 1: and it's this different there's different steps in my life

2349
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:14,520
Speaker 1: that I have to go back and complete.

2350
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:16,719
Speaker 2: So I would say a happiness is like a seven

2351
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 2: and a half. Seven and a half.

2352
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 1: But like we're already make this about the marathon.

2353
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 4: No, No, it's okay. Really, it is a marathon.

2354
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 1: Really something that you know that's been embedded in me,

2355
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's I've never had an easy run.

2356
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: I've never went outside like I did twenty miles supposed

2357
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: to do the next day. You never have an easy run.

2358
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 1: And the thing about being a runner is it's like

2359
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: a cold girlfriend. Like if you dissed this girl, she

2360
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 1: would diss you back hard, hard. And I'm telling you

2361
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 1: that you can run for seven days straight, you fall

2362
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 1: off for three days. It's like you saw it all over.

2363
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, you saw it all over, Like you

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01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 1: know how you like you guys got the third base.

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Speaker 1: But then they gotta start all over. You got to

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01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 1: go on a date again. You gotta start again. He

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Speaker 1: gotta go right back to the movies.

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Speaker 5: What are you gonna be when you cross that finish line?

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Speaker 1: Where am I going to be?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 1: That I'll probably be a stereough fifteen twenty because one,

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that the people that's putting together

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Speaker 1: looked like me. Big up to my guy. His instagram

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Speaker 1: is named Heck's Dad. He's from Washington Heights, but he

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Speaker 1: ran six marathons. He's Dominican and he ran six marathons.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he he's not famous, but he's famous

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Speaker 1: in the in the running world. And like I'm a

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Speaker 1: fan of him, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, not a fan because he's famous. I'm a

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Speaker 1: fan because of the work that he put in, And

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Speaker 1: so where I'm going to be, I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: very very high h euphorically, and I'm gonna be happy.

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Speaker 1: Me me running makes me happy. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 2: That for you, it's stupid, like it's not.

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01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 4: Stop saying that it's not.

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01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 1: Because it's like, yo, how does hurting yourself make you

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01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 1: feel good? It doesn't make sense that a person who

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01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: doesn't do it. But now I'm into recovery. I'm in

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01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 1: the ice baths, I do all that. I'm in the

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01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 1: songs amazing, I'm in the infrared sarnas, I'm into all

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Speaker 1: that ses Oh.

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Speaker 4: And let's leave it on this. This is a good

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Speaker 4: way to go out because we did it some times today.

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Speaker 5: But whenever I do this pot I always try to

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01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 5: think about where it lands in people's real lives, because

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01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 5: not everybody's a rapper or a podcast or anything.

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Speaker 4: Shit.

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Speaker 5: It's like the lessons of our life, how do they

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01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 5: impact people in their regular lives? And so what do

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01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:44,600
Speaker 5: you say to somebody who is has a dream like

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01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 5: that to run a marathon, or to create a pod

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01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 5: network or to start something new that maybe doesn't even

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01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 5: make sense to them. What do you say to somebody

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01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:57,440
Speaker 5: like that, who's I don't know, scared or reluctant.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I know this as a saying that says,

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01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 1: you know, don't live beyond your means. I don't believe

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01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 1: in that ship. I believe you have to take risks.

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01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:16,639
Speaker 1: I believe you have to be uncomfortable to be comfortable,

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01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,639
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's not gonna feel like the right thing.

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01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 1: Like again, when I did Reggae Thrown, it didn't feel

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Speaker 1: like the right thing, and two of my closest friends

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01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 1: told me I'm crazy, but I went with my heart.

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01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 1: So in deep down inside your heart is going to

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Speaker 1: tell you exactly what to do.

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01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 2: It's on you to ignore it. And then your brain

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01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 2: is a.

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01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: Tricky god too, because your brain likes to fuck with you.

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01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 2: Your brain will tell you man.

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Speaker 1: But so I just feel like, just be genuine and

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01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 1: you know, follow your heart. I believe that just follow

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01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 1: your heart. Your heart is going to tell you what

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Speaker 1: to do and be thorough with it, and most importantly,

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01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 1: do something that makes you happy. You know what I'm saying,

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01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 1: But like you know, you do do something that makes

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Speaker 1: you happy, and do something that money can buy. Because

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01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 1: if if money can only make you happy, you ain't

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01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 1: happy at all. You know what I'm saying. You ain't

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01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: happy at all if money, if money is the only

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01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 1: thing that can make it happy. Nah, you're happy at all.

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01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:19,719
Speaker 1: Love the thrill, love the journey.

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Speaker 4: Whoa, that's how you do it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, thank you, thank you. You ended a stroll.

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Speaker 1: You know how to close out?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Hank Sangria and this is Norman in real life.

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, thanks for watching.

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Speaker 5: Make sure you subscribe, like comments, and check out all

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Speaker 5: of the other episodes we have on Edge.

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