1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,519 Speaker 1: Time to take this submarine back up. But it's tax 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: season up there. Captain, you know all that stressing over 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: taxes isn't necessary with Tax Act? How did you get 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: April here to remind you that with Tax Act you're 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: guaranteed your maximum refund while filing for less me's being 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: submerged for another month. Make Captain to your stations. We're 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: headed home. 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Welcome to 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she has the 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing a Brandon expert 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me advice to 29 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: many occasions. In occasion didn't notice I'm not broke. You know. 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: He'll be interviewing celebrity CEO, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to do. It's what he likes 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: to share. Now it's time to hear from my man, 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations here we come. Welcome to 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. I am your host for Sean McDonald. 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Every week, I tell everybody's time to stop reading other 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: people's success stories and start writing your own. Also tell 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: people when you talk about your gifts, your passion to 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: leave with your gifts and don't let your age friends 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: family or co workers stop you from planning or living 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: your dreams. My interviews that I have on money making 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: conversations involved celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs, and what I like to 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: call industry decision makers. My next guest is truly an 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: industry decision makers. Dr Steve Perry, Doctor PARR, is a 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: national leader in the education revolution, a change agent who 45 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: is tireless in his fight for providing equal and competitive 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: opportunities for children who otherwise will not have a voice. 47 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: His mission is to provide high quality education with college 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: bound opportunities for children in poverty. In twenties, Dr Steve 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: Perry opened his fifth school campus in Bronx, New York, 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: and all students are admitted to the schools by random 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: lottery in order to ensure equal access to all students 52 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: regardless of socio economic status. Academic history, Dr Steve Perry's 53 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: mission is to provide historically disadvantaged students with the college 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: and career readiness skills needed to become responsible, engage citizens 55 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: for social justice and offering a rigorous college prof curriculum 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: and the collective variety of athletic programs, project based learning, 57 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: and multi prong faculty support please work with the money 58 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: making conversation. Dear friend, my man, Dr Steve Perry, how 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: you doing, sir? Having the time of my life? Brother? 60 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Really genuinely, I am, and forgive me. I am in Harlem, 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: so you will hear the sounds of the city. I 62 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: have no control over that well, the sounds of the city. 63 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: If you're New York. I always tell people like I 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: think basically seven million people living New York proper in 65 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: Manhattan proper, and on a given day, seven to eight 66 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: million will enter New York. So you can look at 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: from Twitter to fifteen million people on that island. So 68 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: when you say noise in New York, I say, okay, right, 69 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: I have to say that everybody is not as familiar 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: with our home as as you are. So uh, you 71 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: you know from your time here at the Apollo that 72 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: this is allowed little place we know it. Start, Steve Perry. 73 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: It's really interesting that you know New York. I moved 74 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: to New York like an eight first time I went 75 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 1: up New York and lived there, and it was in transition. Remember, 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't catch a cab if I was in Lord, 77 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: New York to come to. If you say you're going 78 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: across a hundred fifth three. They wasn't gonna you might 79 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: weren't not even getting the cab because they weren't gonna 80 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: take you. And then we went through this, you know, 81 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: the Central Park jarger, you know situation where the five 82 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: being were convicted, and and then we then we transitioned 83 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: into their pick you up and take you up there. 84 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: And then you look at New York a hundred street 85 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: and white people that two am are walking their dogs. 86 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: And so this morning trip is tripping me out, like 87 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: is really tripping me out? And so would you in 88 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: there now? What is why is it important? Because we're 89 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: talking at a different hall of now, not the hall 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: of my new not the hall of you reading the newspaper. 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: What hall of are you working in? Now? What's the 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: environment of hall that you're tied to? Now? That's that's interesting, 93 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: Um I am. Our school is currently located on a 94 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fourth and fifth Avenue, which, if you know 95 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: anything about New York, is right across the street from 96 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: Central Park. I mean I can see the botanical garden 97 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: right outside my window. And um, excuse me, we are 98 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: on what's called a museum mile, which is just what 99 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: you just aptly named behind me is the African American Museum. 100 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: Beneath me is Al Museo, all the way down to 101 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: the Museum of Natural History. So this area is a 102 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: gorgeous area as areas go. Similarly, UM, you are seeing 103 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: a conversion of the roundstones purchased by mainly. We can't 104 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: just be middle class, you gotta be upper middle class 105 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: to wealthy folks, many of whom appear to be white, um. 106 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: And for them, Harlem is a place of a cultural experience. 107 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: They come, many of them come to be immersed in 108 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: what they believed to be the culture of Harlem. But 109 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: there's still that group right over there in the Union 110 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: housing projects, which is on the other block. So again, 111 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: if you're not from New York, what I'm explained to 112 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: you would seem unconscionable that so much happens in in 113 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: so few square feet. But in the h two yards 114 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: that this block is, on one side you have some 115 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: of the wealthiest real estate arguably in America, and then 116 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: just two yards on the other side you have a 117 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: couple of housing projects. Um. And then then on the 118 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: other side you have a new high rise. So butchers 119 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: between these, uh are stuck between these two pretty expensive 120 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: pieces of property. You have housing projects and rent controlled places. 121 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: One of my colleagues lives in approximately, I want to 122 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: be polite, seven hundred square feet. It feels like five hundred, 123 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: but seven hundred square feet efficiency and she pays twenty seven. 124 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: That's my right, that's right. So you're not scaring me 125 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: with those numbers. See that was in the five d 126 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: square feet. I was happy. I was happy. But but 127 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: but so that's what it looks like. But what I 128 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: worked with, I work with some of the four kids 129 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: in America. I worked with some um, some of the 130 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: most talented, beautiful, some poor black Latin children. UM who 131 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: wow around them? There is uh call it renaissance. I 132 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: don't know as you call it a renaissance. We're not 133 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: going backwards, um, but it is a a resetting on 134 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember what the path mark 135 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: used to be that place. Yeah, so the path mark 136 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: used which is just which is just a block away from, 137 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: um the train station. That building was just torn down. 138 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: They're about to build they're about to be excuse me, 139 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: a very very very nice uh set up there. However, 140 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: on the ground level, it's like the land of the Dead. 141 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: A bunch of zombie people walking up and down looked. 142 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: It's rough. I don't know if they're homeless. 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Learn how it Belonging begins with us 178 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: dot org, brought to you by the AD Council. Welcome Out. 179 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: You know the thing about it is that to make 180 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: people understand the relatability of what he's saying, is that 181 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: because I lived in New York three times and we 182 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: always threw me off, was that you can't walk from 183 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: wealthy to poverty in a block. And I mean you 184 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: can walk on the same block. Is the same way, 185 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: whereas in if you're a traditional city, you drive to it. 186 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: You drive, you drive to a housing project in New 187 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: York City, you walk past it. You know, you you 188 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: walk past the doorman who secured building, and you go 189 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: to the next block and you're like, Okay, where's my security. 190 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: Where's my doorman to get me through this block? So 191 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: there's a right there, that building right there as a security. 192 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: I think that the condos in there and they have 193 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: to start in the load ones millions like right there 194 00:11:54,360 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: and right there, separated by two hundred uh two yards 195 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: is public housing that just separates. Just that's what it is. 196 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: And so it is a tale of two nations that 197 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: we're in. And what's interesting to me is how the 198 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: midst obvious, well, how the systemic barriers of racism are 199 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: so effective as to allow for them the coexistence of 200 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: two vastly different groups of people, and they they never 201 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: seem to understand one another. And my children don't often understand. 202 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: I have explained it, like do you know who we are? 203 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,599 Speaker 1: I mean they right here? Do you know people call this? No, 204 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: it's the museum mile like this is one of the wealth, 205 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: like this stretch right here, it's like the wealth like 206 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't again, put it this way. So on the 207 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: other side of the part, just for people to understand. 208 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Just over there it's Trump Tower. So I'm here, I 209 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: can almost see it over there. So we're talking about 210 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: the kind of wealth that's jaw dropping right there, and 211 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: the kind of poverty that's equally jaw dropping. And here 212 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: we are in the middle, attempting to carve a new door. Because, 213 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: as you know, Carter G. Woodson said that if you 214 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: send a man to the back door now and there 215 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: is no back door, when he gets there, he will 216 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: cut one for himself. M hm. So we're trying to 217 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: teach our children to go through a different door, really, 218 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: the children and the parents simultaneously. We've been doing this 219 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: for a long time. Do you ever get what frustrates 220 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: you about the process of what you're trying to do. 221 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: What really frustrates me uh. And really trips me out 222 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: is that though we'd be done by now. Honestly, I 223 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: thought when I thought when charter school started to open 224 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: and we were able to show that you could take 225 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: the same Black children, same Latin children in the same address, 226 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: from the same families, and put them in a different school, 227 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: and those children would be able to read on grade level, 228 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: right on grade level, do math on grade level, go 229 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: to college at the rate of anywhere from nine upon graduation. Again, 230 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: I told you you canna hear us um it is uh. 231 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: I figured this country, and for what it's worth, the 232 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: president who got us started down that road was President 233 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: Bush too, but the person who really kicked it into 234 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: um full gear was President Obama. So I figured, as 235 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: soon as we show that you can take children from 236 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: wherever they come and help them ascend to the highest 237 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: highs that I mean both sides of our I figured, 238 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: maybe the Republicans are tripped because they're not as committed 239 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: to black and brown people as the Democrats say they are, 240 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: so maybe there'll be some rub there, But other than that, 241 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: we should be cool because their freedom loving people, and 242 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: they want the freedom of school tchice. That's what I 243 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: thought I could not be more wrong. The Democrats have 244 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: been the most ardent opponents of the very escape route 245 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: that we need to use to get out of the 246 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: poverty that in many cases there policies have plunged us into. Sadly, 247 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: the Republicans are so uh in apt around issues of 248 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: class and race that anything that comes out of their 249 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: mouths people think is racist, even when they're making headway 250 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: and policies of school choice. So what frustrates me is 251 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: that I find myself with these lying politicians all the time. 252 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they get on my nerves. I'm not even 253 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: replying to you. Just some of them are people who 254 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: I know, like friends, people in my house. It is, 255 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: it is a peculiar paradox that I find myself and 256 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: because I you know, I just didn't walk through and 257 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: one of our schools here in Harlem and had to, 258 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, tighten up some kids. But I'm not being 259 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: a uniform the way that's supposed to be doing that 260 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: very micro thing. But then from there I have to 261 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: have a macro conversation with the legislator about something that's 262 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: just it's just foolish, man. I don't even it sickens 263 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: me that we're still having these conversations. It is, and 264 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: I might add where I really, really, really really really 265 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: was wrong was I felt like if I, as a 266 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: black man, committed to the Black commune and she came 267 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: to members of the black community and I'm being completely transparent, 268 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: because you're my god, I felt like I would be 269 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: able to get from black legislators, um, black wealthy people 270 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: the kind of support that our children need. And let 271 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: me be clear, They're not putting any money in my pocket. 272 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: They're not increasing my salary. They don't make my house 273 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: bigger at all. Actually, when they give money to us, 274 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: when they create legislation that creates more opportunities for schools 275 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: like ours to open, my salary does not move, you know, 276 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: despite my wife's interest and son's interest in my salary moving. 277 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: In fact, one of my sons, one of my sons, 278 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: goes to school with a person who runs a large 279 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: charter network and she makes a considerable amount more than 280 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: I do. And he said, he said, see me all time. 281 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Do you ever get for treated by that? I don't. 282 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: I didn't get into this that I got in because 283 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: I feel so blessed to be a part of our 284 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: children's lives. I can't believe that God wakes me up 285 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: all the people othershan, I'm telling you I can't. And 286 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: you know this, And this is what we talked about. 287 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: When there's no cameras on, nobody watching, there's no bs anything, 288 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: I can't believe that God wake this to uh get 289 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: part of like I just like in this way, it's 290 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: just the most awesome experience. So, I mean, do I 291 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: enjoy earning a living? I do, But I want to 292 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: make it clear and and and if I made sixty 293 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: billion dollars doing it because I help kids, would that 294 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: be a bad thing? Be people who do great things. 295 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: But that's not what happens. What actually happens is when 296 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: they give money, when they create legislation, it presents opportunity 297 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 1: for us to be able to serve more children. What 298 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: that means is I can hire more people who can 299 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: create more classroom so that we can have more children. 300 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: That's it. Dr Berry, Hi, everyone, Al Roker here as 301 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: a guy with his own catchphrase. 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Sure you know what else grows in the forest. 320 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 1: Our imagination, our sense of wonder, and our family bonds 321 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: grow too, because when we disconnect from this and connect 322 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: with this, we reconnect with each other. The forest is 323 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: closer than you think. Find a forest near you and 324 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: start exploring. I Discover the Forest dot org. Brought to 325 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: you by the United States Forest Service and the ad Council. 326 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: When we talk about the five schools that you have, 327 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: this is from our audience who's listening and who also 328 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: are watching. And basically, what is the attendant size of 329 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: the school, what is the age rain of the curriculum, 330 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: scharacter the new one that you have, and in the Bronx, 331 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: how does that work? Because we know about the lottery 332 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: system to get in are they all located in the 333 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: New York Connecticut? Are where they located these five schools 334 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: they are? Thank you so much for asking a thoughtful 335 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: question like that because most people don't. Um, so we 336 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: have we have two sites in Connecticut and Bridgeport, what 337 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: actually three? So if one in Hartford, I'm not affiliated 338 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: with that one anymore. I'll explained to you at a 339 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: moment um. That was the first school. And then um, 340 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: we have two sites in Bridgeport, Connecticut and they're about 341 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: four hundred apiece, and then we have uh in Harlem. 342 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: We have one that will be about eight hundred, and 343 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: then we have one in the Bronx that will be 344 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: about eight hund So the one we did in Hartford 345 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: is what was around eight hundreds, so and then some 346 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: of them are broken into multiple sites. So that's where 347 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: the numbers are. Three mm hmm. Look, and so when 348 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: you when you reach them, there's three thousands to that 349 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: because you you get the hard student, poverty driven students. 350 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: So three thousand students that you're given a different way 351 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: of life. They wouldn't have that different way of life 352 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: academically if you didn't have a vision or feel blessed 353 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: to get up. It's not about the money. It's about 354 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: providing an opportunity and escape to a better life. Basically 355 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: what you're doing with these students and their families too, 356 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: because the kids benefait they they do the things they're 357 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: supposed to, go to college, hopefully can pay forward and 358 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: go pick their family and move them forward as well. 359 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: That's your dream politicians. People who think they're undertones of 360 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: greed tied to this, what do you do you want 361 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: out of it? Those those frustrating lanes, But then you 362 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: see the results the students who have left your school. 363 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? Again? So this weekend, 364 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: great question? Great question. So this weekend I went to 365 00:22:53,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: two graduation parties, college graduation parties, and they have how 366 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: have those parents? One one graduation. I went to UM, 367 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: then way to graduated from Cton Hall and UM to 368 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: have the parents who are no longer together actually recently divorced, 369 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: to have them each separately come over to me and 370 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: thank me. I don't feel worthy. Um, It's what I 371 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: honestly feel when Dad came over to me and he said, 372 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, she couldn't have done around you as a brother. 373 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: Come on, I'm just a spectator and this and like, no, 374 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, school, and I appreciate it, and I'm gonna 375 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna thank you for the flowers that you're giving 376 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: me while I'm still up here, and I'm gonna appreciate that. 377 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: But I current, come on, this is this. No person 378 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: can do this. This is not what people can do. 379 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: This is God. So um. But what you know, Dr Parry, 380 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: Dr Perry, I can stop you right there because I 381 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: know it a long time, because you are and I've 382 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: always criticized you for your humbleness. You know, you know 383 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: you are a vessel. It is God's work. But you 384 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: get up. I know your wife, I know your boys. 385 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: They sacrifice. Okay, it's a time you're going the road 386 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: to speak to kids that you don't know I've seen it. 387 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: You go to camps hot in the summer talking to 388 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: boys you don't know, trying to just give them a 389 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: nugget of information that would change their life. And so 390 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: I got the humbleness. But they're right, you're that blessing, 391 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: You're that You're you're the kid, You're the kid who 392 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: grew up become a man and say no, somebody want 393 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: to make a difference, and that difference has to be 394 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: and other people. So what triggered that? That's why I 395 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: need to know what triggered that. I appreciate that. I, 396 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: as you know, I'm I'm wickedly competitive. I understand somebody 397 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: has to lose. It just never has to be made 398 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: so um So for me, I want to be the 399 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: when this thing is done, when when the box is 400 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: mine and the dirt drums on top of it, I 401 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: want to be the best who's ever done it. I don't. 402 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I want to. That will be evidence that 403 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: I took what a little bit that I came into 404 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: the game with and and I flipped it. You know, 405 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: I look at cats who who are comparably positioned in 406 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: their industries, who do things differently different than I do, 407 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: who earned you know who do something different than I do, 408 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: because you mean, I see where they are and I 409 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: think I want to be even them. Yes, but but 410 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: the beating part is less about ego and more about 411 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: surface meaning that when I win, we win. But one 412 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: of the things I've always appreciated about you, Sean is 413 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: that you are committed to extend blessings to other people, 414 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: to give and give opportunities to other cats, and identify 415 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: talented individuals and help them build whatever it is that 416 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: they have and and have that turned into something meaningful. Um, 417 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: when when you are that kind of person, you build 418 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: a team of people who will always be there for you. 419 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: And so to your point, um my farewell wells comments 420 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: to the first school that we were at, the school 421 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: that we founded. Um, when I left, what I said, 422 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: my sons attend my schools, And um, what I said 423 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: was thank you to them for all of the nights 424 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: that you went to bed and I wasn't there, all 425 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: the morning that you woke up and I wasn't there. 426 00:26:54,280 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: And that my hope and prayer is that one day, 427 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: when you feel like I'm the worst human being on earth, 428 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: you will come across somebody who will take the time 429 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: to say thank you for the time that you contributed 430 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: to my life by allowing your father to help us 431 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: to build the schools in our community. I mean, one 432 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: of the things that trips me out reshund is I 433 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: don't understand how people do. When I don't how people do, 434 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: what I do could ever be seen as controversial. I 435 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: don't know what's controversial about black people open up schools 436 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: in the black community, except for the fact that there's 437 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: black people open up schools in the black community, which 438 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: means sensibly self determination. It means that when I waiting 439 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: for him, I'm not asking, but I'm not asking anybody permission. 440 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't ask when we're writing curriculum, I don't say, 441 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna offend people? As anybody not 442 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: my that's not my problem, doesn't defend me. So aveng you. 443 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: They don't go send your child in my school. But 444 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: you know the beauty of you. Dr Steve Perry one 445 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: of the leading voices, you know when he says that 446 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: by his sons, I remember it was a run that 447 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: every year I watched them grow, you know, I watched 448 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: them grow everything pop up, your annual sophomore year. You 449 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: know you know and go to the camps and Steve 450 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: Harvey and then go to the Dreams Academy. So at 451 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: least twice a year I watched them grow up, you know. 452 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: And the beauty of that is that respect. They understood 453 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: their dad, they understood the small Then they knew the 454 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: value of of effort. They knew the value of UH 455 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: making a difference. And when I look at you and 456 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: I look at the progress that you made as a person, 457 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: I've honestly meant that, you know, we we the television 458 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: route has been made available to you. You just did 459 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: the Fix My Life episode series her last season. Where 460 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: is that in your life? Is is being on television 461 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: a new priority? Or what's going on in your life 462 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: from a television perspective? Dr Stephen, You know, television for 463 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: me is a vehicle to tell the story of the 464 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: work that we're doing in the community, as you know, 465 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: and what your viewers are getting access to. As a 466 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: kind of conversation that you and I have had two 467 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: or three hundred times, it's the same conversation where you know, 468 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: you've seen people present me with TV projects and I've 469 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: never I don't turn them down. It's not my thing, 470 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: but my focus is primarily on running the schools. I 471 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: know that's crazy for some people who who whose air 472 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: is to be seen by people, But I know that 473 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: there's another side to that, and there's a cost to 474 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: that as well as you well know, and you can't 475 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: undring that bell. Uh So, I am so grateful to 476 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: uh Ayana and Oprah for the opportunity and the opportunities. 477 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: You also know this. You never know what's gonna happen 478 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: with televisions. So the conversation is I'll put it this way, 479 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: and you know you understand this as well. I'll be 480 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: as specific as I can without there you getting myself 481 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: jammed up. Um, there is fevered conversation between a number 482 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: of entities as to what to do because there's there's 483 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: been a there's been a long interest from far back 484 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: is when we did, say my son of extending that work. 485 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: There are people who are still very interested in that. 486 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: Some of those people in positions of power networks, some 487 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: of them are at streaming services, and I think that 488 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: they wanted to see how how the most recent you know, 489 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to see if I still got it, 490 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: but they wanted to see it again in person. So 491 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: they got to see that again. And UM, I think 492 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 1: that I think that the Open Win Free Network, among others, 493 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to be really frank with you. I think 494 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: that the Oprah Win Free Network, among others, UM saw 495 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: the Universal University positive reaction to the work. I think 496 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: that people were I think I'll just tell you what 497 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: people said. The internet was a buzz with very very 498 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: very high positive and you know how hard that is 499 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: to achieve. I would just tell you this. You know, 500 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: because we know where we're going. Everybody sees you serious. 501 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: You are a fun guy. You know, we're we're realist 502 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: to you. Smile, you know, you're like you know, you 503 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: know where the party is. So so I know that 504 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: you you gotta keep in looping this because I'm telling you, man, 505 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: I cannot let them not see the three the full 506 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 1: three sixty of you. You know, yes, your passion, Yes 507 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: you're driven to change. But man, come on now, can 508 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: we see you smile on tv D Starry, Can we 509 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: see that, can see that? You know when it is, 510 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: you know what it is. It's hard to smile. What 511 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, kids, and that's usually what you 512 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: get to see me do. UM, But they don't get 513 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: to see. They don't get to see uh us in 514 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: Hot Ass, Texas just sitting back cooking meat and laughing 515 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: for hours, literally trying not to get eaten by every 516 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: on earth. Um, they don't see that because it's just 517 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: not an opportunity. But listen to me when I say that. 518 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: When I say that, the reason I'm dropping that into 519 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: your conversation because that's you. Because see what happens. What 520 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: happens with producers see things a certain way because that's 521 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: their minds. I'm telling you you change lives on the 522 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: different levels. You can smile and change a child's life. 523 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: I've seen you do that on a regular basis. I've 524 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: seen you at Disney, I've seen you at camp. I've 525 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: seen you others speaking opportunities. We smile, we walked in 526 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: the room, we make a decision. I'm just telling you, 527 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: if that television opportunity presents yourself, please be you at 528 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: all levels. So that's and I appreciate you saying that. 529 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: One of the challenges. So again, let's just have a 530 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: real conversation. So one of the reasons why the TV 531 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: one thing didn't work out is because I couldn't do 532 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: what I think they wanted. Me to do, which is 533 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: to get up in boys chests and and set your 534 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: ass down. Love. I don't talk to kids like that. 535 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't talk to kids like that. I'll 536 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: talk to mine like that sometimes, but not everybody else's. 537 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: And I can take liberties with mine because they mine, 538 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: but I don't even take I try to avoid take 539 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: them even with them, because nobody responds really well to that. 540 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: I say all that to say, one of the challenges 541 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: there is about capturing that part of the nuances of 542 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: my personality. They wanted something I didn't have. Similarly when Fox, 543 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: when I was doing the daytime piece with Fox, then 544 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: they it's like the poles. They either one the the 545 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, like I'll bush kind of uh Joe Clarkey guy. 546 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: The other one they want is this goofy Wayne Brady character. 547 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not distant Wayne Brady, but you understand what 548 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it's just this goofy uh amorphous. You know, 549 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: you can tell he's African American, but you're not gonna 550 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: hear anything about his cultural underpinnings as they relate to 551 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: come through. They wanted me to be something that almost 552 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: was Kelly Clarkson slash ellensk and sure we can have 553 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: those kinds of conversations, no doubt that's what you and 554 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: I would do. We have those kinds of conversations. But 555 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm not silly. You understand I'm saying like, I'm not 556 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: a silly person. That's I'm just not, never have been, 557 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: never will be. Um, there are different ways in which 558 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: we can laugh and be relatable that are still respectful 559 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: of who we are as man. You're not a silly 560 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't anybody wants say rashan silly like this just ridiculous. 561 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 1: You know, if you laugh, you Joe, you serious chat. 562 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: It's been a lot of time in making people laugh 563 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: for a living, but it's serious about your business absolutely. 564 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: You know. The thing about it we're gonna wrap up 565 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: here is that because I want to talk to some 566 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: stuff offline as well about this, because you're right, that's 567 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: my life. My life is about shaping people's opportunities. My 568 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: life is about giving you some stuff that may not 569 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: even benefit me. And when I look at you, you've 570 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: always been a benefit not only to me, but the 571 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: people around me and the people that I invited you 572 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 1: into the world to make a change. Like to Steve Perry, 573 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: your blessing brother. Your family is a blessing and the 574 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: fact you have five schools is going to be more. 575 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: And when you leave this earth, you will be that 576 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: game changer. You will be that competitive guy that said 577 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: I made a difference. And then people will show up 578 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: and show you as they line up and walk past 579 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: that casket and tell you thank you and cry and 580 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: and remember that he made a difference in my life, 581 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: my children's life, and my grandparents life and may create 582 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: a nixt lefigacy of growth and the opportunity for kids 583 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: who didn't have it. And just seeing you, man, I'm 584 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: just telling your brother, you're special. You've always been special 585 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: to me. Man. And we don't talk enough. I will 586 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: tell you that I will be are we missing not 587 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: saying that? And we need to start talking more. Let's 588 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: do it. And Okay, it's gonna happen. As soon as 589 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: I hang up this this call here, my brother, with 590 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: this video show, we're gonna talk some more. There. I'm 591 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna thank you for coming on money making conversations. Okay, alright, pleasure. 592 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: If you want to hear or see any of my 593 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: money making conversations, please go to Money Making Conversation dot com. 594 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm with Sean McDonald. I am your host. 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