1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It's a Memorial Day out there. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: I hope people acknowledge what it's actually about. The barbecues, 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: all that stuff is fun, but what it's actually about 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: and what those lost souls meant to our country and 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: all that. Hope we take time to appreciate that. We 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: are going to take time to first acknowledge that apparently 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: the New York Knicks are not ready to just lay 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: down and give up here, LaVar Arrington. They're not ready. 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 2: They have now made this a series for now, and 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: they come back pull off a comeback win of their own. 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Allah what the Indian Indiana Pacers did to them in 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: Game one. In Game two, and the Knicks get it 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: done on the road in Indiana somehow, some way and 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: bring this series. 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 3: To two to one in the Eastern Conference Finals. 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 4: Being the son of a Vet that almost lost his 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: life in Vietnam, always to make sure I take my time, 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 4: especially being on air on Memorial Day, to make sure 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 4: I do honor and remember our brave men and women 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: who pay the ultimate price and made the ultimate sacrifice 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 4: for our freedom. So I just want to say I'm 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 4: so appreciative and I'm so happy and proud to be 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 4: the son of a military VET, proud to be a 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: part of generations of military service members who have taken 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: pride and representing our country and fighting for our freedom. 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 4: So I would be remiss if if I didn't say 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: that quickly. Thank you to all the memories of those 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: who live in our hearts in our minds that gave 30 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 4: us the right and the opportunity to have these freedoms 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: just to talk on the radio and. 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: To talk sports. So thank you to all of you. 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: Enjoy your day, but just remember to remember those that 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 4: not only are are gone and have given their lives 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 4: for our country, but those who are still here because 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 4: they well, they need our attention and they need our 37 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: love more than anyone. So make sure you hug a 38 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 4: vet today, make sure you show them some love, and uh, 39 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: enjoy your Memorial Day. Uh. And it was not a 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 4: Memorial Day for the New York Knicks. So so to 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: get to your point, you finally saw a team that 42 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 4: had to to, I guess, feel the pressure of the 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 4: series coming to a unceremonials unceremonious end. It did not 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 4: look like it was going to be a good series. 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: It looked to be the same yesterday's game as the 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: Indiana Indiana Pacers. Uh took took the lead and was 47 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: up quite a few I believe it was a twenty 48 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: point deficit that the New York Knicks erased. Uh. I'll 49 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: say this, Indiana did it to them. You know, New 50 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 4: York was up. New York had the opportunity to win 51 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: the game, and they choked on it. And and now 52 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: you saw the Indiana Pacers proverbial choking take place. And 53 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: yesterday's game, they had a game. This was an opportunity 54 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: being up by the amount they were in by to 55 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: basically put maybe put the stamp on it, you know, 56 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: put put the toe toe tag on the next the 57 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: Knicks fought back. Karl Anthony Towns looked like two different 58 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: people in the game. Jonas first half, it was like, 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: come on, what are you doing? Probably need to bench him, 60 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: Probably need to just leave him there and just see 61 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: what's going to happen. And then in the second half 62 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: Cat fueled them. And it only goes to serve the purpose. 63 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: What the conversations have been since they made the trades 64 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: of of you know what, Randall going to Minnesota and 65 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: and Towns coming to the Knicks is that Karl Anthony 66 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: Towns has to play like an all star if this 67 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: team is to have a chance to win this series 68 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 4: and to have it remotely any chance of not being 69 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 4: a sacrificial lamb in the next in the next series. 70 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: So Carl Anthony Towns, as you mentioned, he had the 71 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: monster fourth quarter which fueled to comeback for the Knicks, 72 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: and he spoke afterwards about what went into his performance. 73 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 5: That's opportunity to utilize all those hours I'll put into 74 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 5: the gym, and the game wasn't looking great for me 75 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 5: as well, but for all of us, and I just 76 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 5: wanted to do whatever it takes to help put us 77 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 5: in a position to win. 78 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 6: And like I said, it's it's a testament to my teammates, 79 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 6: you know, having trusted me and giving me, you know, 80 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 6: putting me in spots where I could see seed and 81 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 6: and utilize my talent. So that's just testing, you know. 82 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 6: Shout out to the guys in the locker room. You know, 83 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 6: this is a great team win. But we got we know, 84 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 6: we gotta be better than we were tonight if we 85 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 6: expect to find a way to get another win. 86 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean so he has to put himself in 87 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: better situations to have better games earlier. Yeah, how you 88 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 4: feel about it, he has to do that. 89 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: It's I mean, this is a wonderful moment for for 90 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: the Nicks and for that fan base. This is great 91 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: and and now it makes sense why they celebrated the 92 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: way that they did after they beat Boston, because because 93 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: they knew that it was over. And this is a 94 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: fun story. And it's great that we're going to get 95 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: TNT with another game. We're going to get another opportunity 96 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: to see the NBA on T n T again, which 97 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: we've grown with over the past couple of decades. But 98 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: you watched the game last night, and I don't know 99 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: if anybody else the way I see it, but I 100 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: look at the game and I go Indiana is by 101 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: far and away the better team. They're deeper. Even though Tibbs, 102 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: you know, adjusted his lineup, adjusted his rotation. He put 103 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: in Mitchell Robinson, he took out Josh Hart. All of 104 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: that being said, I find it hard to believe that 105 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: Indiana comes out and goes cold in the second half 106 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: like they did last night at home. I just don't 107 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: see it happening. This is going to play out the 108 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: way it played out against Cleveland. For Indiana, they lost 109 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: game three at home, they came back in game four, 110 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: they annihilated the Calves and it was over. So this 111 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: is a fun story. It's fun the Knicks fans finally 112 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: got to see their team win an Eastern Conference championship game. 113 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: But that's a wrap, folks. This is done. It's over. 114 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: And I just you just watch the game and not 115 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: the you know, the the parts where Indiana is struggling 116 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: to find a shot, like even their like shot selection offensively, 117 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: this weird. It didn't look like what they were normally doing. 118 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's because they got comfortable, 119 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. 120 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 3: They still went up twenty. 121 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just so what you're saying is true. 122 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: That's so damning because they still in the game where 123 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 4: you felt like they didn't do as well as they 124 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: should have done, they. 125 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: Still went up by twenty. 126 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the fact that they gave twenty I guess 127 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: to your point, it's the fact that they gave a 128 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: twenty point lead away. 129 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: They just kind of didn't it look like in the 130 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: in the second half, they were just kind of lacks 131 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: of days ago possessions. They were just whatever, but just 132 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: almost like playing with their food, like well, yeah, no, 133 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden they're down two and 134 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: it's late and it's like, no, now you need a 135 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: shot from Siakam to try and tie the game, and 136 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: now they're in a battle. I just I think they respond, 137 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: and I think they hammer the Knicks in game four. 138 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: It's possible it could play out that way, but it 139 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: is also the idea of that's exactly how the Knicks. 140 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: You could probably say the Knicks lost their first game. 141 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: I would say the second game was the one game 142 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: where I'd say Indiana won that game, but the first 143 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: game that was the next game. They let that thing 144 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 4: get away, and it is what it is. It happened 145 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: the way that it happened, and they have to live 146 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: with it the same way Indiana Pacers have to live 147 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: with the way they let yesterday's game get away too 148 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: close to being an up three to zero, and we 149 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: all know being up three to zero in the series 150 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: is almost like a death sentence to the series. 151 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: Now you get that one. 152 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: Victory and you overcome crazy circumstances, crazy odds to get 153 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: to that victory. This is now a gut check for 154 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 4: both teams because the New York Knicks they got to 155 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: do it one more time in Indiana, just like Indiana 156 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: had to do it in New York. If they're able 157 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: to pull this series even in the next game, if 158 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 4: they're able to pull this game even in Indy, this 159 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: is a series, and I don't know it's and I 160 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 4: don't know that it's a series that Indiana can pull 161 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 4: out if they hit a tailspin where the Knicks get 162 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: to take it back home with a two to two tie. 163 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: Now I do believe it'll go to seven games. But 164 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 4: with that being said, it now turns into not a 165 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: cruise control series for the Indiana Pacers. With everybody talking 166 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: about how good this roster is and they're the Eastern 167 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: version of the OKC Thunder, and this is gonna be 168 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 4: a great matchup in the in the NBA Finals, even 169 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: though nobody's gonna watch it because it's not great markets. 170 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 4: I guess that want to watch the game. It's not 171 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: the big markets. It's not the Boston Celtics versus the 172 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: Lakers or anything like that. But with that being said, 173 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: I don't know that Indiana can get out of this 174 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: series alive. If they do not put this game, this 175 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: game five away or game Excuse me, I do not 176 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 4: know that if they don't win Game four that they 177 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: can get out of this series. Now ties even and 178 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: it's anybody series, and I get that, but I think 179 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: the emotional mental kind of impact that that would have 180 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: on the team. They're going to have to find a 181 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: way to suck it up and they're going to have 182 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: to find a way to get out of the series, 183 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: even though they are the better team on paper. 184 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: Jonas. 185 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 4: But I'll say this, Karl Anthony town said his teammates 186 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: got him in position to take advantage. I'll say this, 187 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: if he decides that he wants to be the player 188 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: he's supposed to be and not chuck up all them 189 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: three pointers and stay on the outside and on the 190 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: perimeter and play that soft ass style of basketball at 191 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: times that he's been known to play, and he puts 192 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: his head down and he plays like a big man 193 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: that can shoot from the outside but can score on 194 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 4: the inside and make things uncomfortable, almost like a Yokic, 195 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: like a different version. But I'm just saying, same type 196 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 4: of skill set. You could shoot from anywhere on the court, 197 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: but you have the size and the ability to be 198 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 4: able to do it on the inside. If Carl Anthony 199 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: Towns takes away from that game that he can do 200 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 4: that in any of these games, the Pacers are in 201 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: trouble and the team they played, they face after the Pacers, 202 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: if they were to win the series, would be in 203 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: trouble too. But that has to be a big if 204 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: that comes to fruition with Carl Anthony Towns being the catalyst. 205 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: Obviously Brunson is going to be the facilitator. And you 206 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: gotta have the different guys that you know, Bridges could 207 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 4: have had a better game. You know, Annonobe had a 208 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 4: good game. He could play better. There are guys that 209 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 4: could play better. Mitchell Robinson could play better. There are 210 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 4: guys that could have played better in yesterday's game for 211 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 4: the Knicks as well. So this could turn into a 212 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: serious matchup. 213 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: Your point is spot on about if Carl Anthony Towns 214 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: just stays in the post or back, he can get 215 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: a basket at the rim anytime he wants. And they 216 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: were talking about a postgame and that sort of shacks 217 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: frustration with him and a lot of people's frustration with him. 218 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: That was you know, last year, it was Anthony Edwards 219 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: frustration with him when he spoke about it afterwards after 220 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: games for the Timberwolves last year. He can score in 221 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: the post whenever he wants. He can get a basket 222 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: there whenever he wants. Now that being said, in watching 223 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns over the past couple of years in 224 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: the playoffs, what do you think is more likely to 225 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: happen this next game since he was dominant down low 226 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: against Indiana, that he does it again, or that he 227 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: starts chucking up threes again, because I'll take the ladder. 228 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: He's just start again. That's what he does. But if 229 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: he sees. 230 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 4: It on film, Like, Carl Anthony Towns is a very 231 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: cerebral guy, right, super intelligent dude. And you know if 232 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 4: you you see what you're capable of doing on on film, 233 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: And I know they're going to get the opportunity to 234 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: watch this game on film and go over it and 235 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: study it. And and that coach and his teammates have 236 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: to sit there and they gotta be like Cat, we 237 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: know you love shooting that three ball, bro, we know 238 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: you love that long game, Pausle, but you got to 239 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: take it on inside, my guy, Hammers, Willie. 240 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: You gotta take it on inside. 241 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: My guy, Hey cat, you gotta be the big cat, 242 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: and you gotta take it on inside. 243 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: And I think. 244 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: I think he's going to come out, and I think 245 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: he's gonna he's going to try to push that thing 246 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: inside and be be a little more. 247 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: He's just not He's not a shack. 248 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: I can understand Shaq's frustration because you have you have 249 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: more skill shooting the ball than Shaq does. 250 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 3: I mean, you're not as dominant and. 251 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: As dog as as Shaq is in playing on the inside, 252 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 4: but you have the size and you have the ability 253 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 4: to be able to do some of the things that 254 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 4: Shaq did down low in that post, especially in an 255 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 4: outside game NBA where you're looking at an Indiana Pacers 256 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: team that plays very very good perimeter defense. Take a 257 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: down low cat, do what you need to do, and 258 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 4: you might have the opportunities to shoot those threes. But 259 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: I think him shooting all of them threes was the 260 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: reason why they got down so bad, Like he just 261 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 4: chucking it up like bro At least give us that 262 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: that grimy, gritty dog type of approach to the game 263 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: early on in the game. Let's establish that we can 264 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: score down low early on in the game, because, like 265 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: you said, both teams didn't seem to be hitting shots. 266 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: It was poor shooting. And if you're having poor shooting, 267 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: you should be putting points on the board the old 268 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: fashioned way, which is get as close to the rim 269 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: as you possibly can. And if Karl Anthony Towns, to 270 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: answer your question, if he is willing to take on 271 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: that weight, which why wouldn't you be Why wouldn't you 272 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: be willing to take on that weight. If he's willing 273 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 4: to take on that weight and really assert himself and 274 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: apply himself in a big man's type of form, not 275 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: in the outside shooting three pointers all game and that 276 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: never going down low seven foot or no. If he 277 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: applies himself and asserts himself, this could get bad for Indiana. 278 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: Will he do it? 279 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, I'm fifty to fifty on the on 280 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: the fence. 281 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: No, you're not. He's going to try to shoot out there, 282 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: he is. 283 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: He's gonna he's going he's gonna shoot outside first before 284 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: he decides he's going to have to see if he's 285 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: missing first, before he decides he wants to smoke down. 286 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 287 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 7: Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 288 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 7: sure to catch us live every weekday more nine to 289 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 7: noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 290 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,479 Speaker 7: Find your local station for The Danpatrick Show at Foxsports 291 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 7: Radio dot com. We're stream us live every day on 292 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 7: the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 293 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: You know, some people have said, are you guys you 294 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: know what? Is this like a Memorial Day takeover of 295 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: The Dan Patrick Show? I mean kind of, I guess. 296 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what our job is here, that's what 297 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: our duty is. And apparently there's another takeover that's happening, 298 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: and it's the NFL continuing their takeover, and the takeover 299 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: is holiday and holiday action and holiday action when there 300 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: happens to be another league who's had that holiday all 301 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: to themselves for several several years now, So much so 302 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: that Jason Kelsey was on his New Heights podcast talking 303 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: about how he's a fan of the NFL playing on 304 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: Christmas and on these major holidays and had this to say. 305 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 8: Now, I'm also just a fan of playing on more 306 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 8: primetime times like that's when I'm watching TV, and I 307 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 8: like you when football is on the television. So let's 308 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 8: keep putting good football games on television when everybody's watching. 309 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's just good for the game. 310 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 8: Let's keep taking over all the holidays or taking over Thanksgiving, Christmas, NBA, 311 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 8: you're never getting that back. I mean, it's it's that's the. 312 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: Way it is. And he's one hundred percent correct. He 313 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: ain't live. They're never getting it back. 314 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, like what once the NFL realized, I'll wait, like 315 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: this is doable. Yeah, we're gonna go ahead and take 316 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: that too. And then it, you know, became one game 317 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: and two games, and it's just this is where we are. 318 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: And I don't know what the plan would be for 319 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: the NBA, but if you're the NFL. And by the way, 320 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: for those of you wondering, well, it's just because you 321 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: know Christmas falls on certain days of the week. 322 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: No, it's over because. 323 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: Christmas is a Thursday this year, a Friday of the 324 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: year after a Saturday after that, a Sunday a month. Like, 325 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 2: it's going to be a long ass time before anybody 326 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: can make the argument, well, depending on the day of 327 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 2: the week it falls, it's not great for the schedule 328 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: and the players. The NFL is going to take this 329 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: over and it's going to be theirs moving forward. 330 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: I mean, what else is there to say? You know, 331 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: Kelsey nailed it, and I think you put a bow 332 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 4: on it if it's good football. And listen, I look 333 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 4: at it like this during the holiday season. The one 334 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: thing that you get yourself set for during Christmas time, 335 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 4: pre Christmas, post Christmas and New Year is college football. 336 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: So if we're being honest, I don't think about the 337 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: NBA on Christmas maybe Christmas Day, you're right, but I 338 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: don't think about the NBA. I think about college football, 339 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: and I think about bowl games. And now that you 340 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 4: have to playoff it now makes it even more intensified 341 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: getting into that corridor of the year coming to an 342 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: end and rounding it out by having, you know, Christmas 343 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: and then New Years. So if you're putting on a 344 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 4: quality football game from the National Football League and that's 345 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 4: on Christmas. 346 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: Day, Hell, if you put two three. 347 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 4: Games on on Christmas Day that are quality matchups of 348 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: the National Football League, I can guarantee you guar runtee 349 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 4: that you're going to have a tremendously large viewing audience 350 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: of those games that are taking place. 351 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: Totally agree. Yeah, And I look at it and I 352 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: go if you're the NBA. I mean, what do you do? 353 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: You just keep trying to chuck along, you know, chuck 354 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 4: them up, like like Karl Anthony Townsend. 355 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: Hope something goes in and just. 356 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: You know, like for example, you know the the Christmas 357 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: schedule for the NFL coming up this year, Cowboys, Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Broncos, Chiefs, Like, 358 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: all of those are compelling matches. 359 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: I watch all three, every single one. There would have 360 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: to be a dope ass Bowl game on and that game. 361 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: I would even be switching in and out to all 362 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 4: the games depending on what the times that are are playing. 363 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 2: And I'll be honest with you, if you like, who 364 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: do you think the two worst teams in the NFL 365 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: are going to be this year? 366 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: Like if you if you had to right now, guess. 367 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: The Saints, Yeah, and maybe the Browns. 368 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: If the Saints and the Browns are playing on Christmas, 369 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: are you watching that or an NBA game? 370 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm watching the NFL game. I'm sorry, I'm. 371 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: Sorry, just I don't know. It depends. 372 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 4: Give me the match up of the NBA game, give 373 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: me the matchup of the NBA game, then give me 374 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: what best case scenario. 375 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean, if you wanted, you know, 376 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: best case scenario, you know, maybe it would be a 377 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, a Thunder Celtics match or no, I mean, 378 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: Tatum's going to be out for majority of the year. 379 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: So let's say Thunder Pacers NBA Finals rematch. I'm watching them. 380 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: I'm watching the Saints Browns. 381 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm watching the Saints Browns. 382 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 4: It's it sounds more interesting, it sounds more intriguing. What 383 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 4: what's at Steak in December for the NBA for them 384 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: NBA games? 385 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 3: Nothing? 386 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 4: What's at Steak? I mean, We're we're heading into June, 387 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, we're heading into June 388 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 4: and basketball NBA season is still going. I don't see 389 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: there being enough importance to you. 390 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 3: Don't. 391 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: Again, I don't believe the NBA has a player right 392 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: now or players. 393 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: Outside of you. 394 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: Being a avid NBA fan, an avid sports fan. 395 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: I do not leave the NBA has. 396 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 4: The type of player that can drive the viewership the 397 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: way that you've had it in decades past. 398 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: Let me paint this scenario for you, all right, Just 399 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: imagine the NBA to counter program does that rematch of 400 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, and it is Pacers and Thunder and 401 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: the NFL. This is a pre example. This is not 402 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: the matchup, but this is the worst. If you had 403 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: to pick the two worst teams in the league, and 404 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 2: the NFL rolls out Tyler Schuck versus Dylan Gabriel and 405 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: would do better numbers than the NBA showing a rematch 406 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: of the finals. 407 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 4: But I think it classically comes back to the way 408 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 4: the popularity has been grown and the way the popularity. 409 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: Has been built. 410 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 4: National Football League has always made it a point to 411 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: make the shield the most important branding that takes place, 412 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 4: not to mention guys wear helmets. So you can look 413 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: at a matchup, but you'll ultimately find the reasons why 414 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 4: that is an intriguing matchup, even if it's two trash teams. 415 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: And it's also because the NFL doesn't play nearly as 416 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 4: many games as the NBA, so it's almost these days, 417 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 4: which is one of the best things that the NFL 418 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: could have ever done, is these days, they've made every 419 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 4: game matter more and they're continuing to figure out ways 420 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: to reward the teams that take every single game and 421 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 4: every single week take it seriously, like you know, you're 422 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: not sitting there like, ah, you know, well, there's more 423 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: games to be played, we will be fine. It's almost 424 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: taking on the same type of characteristics in some ways 425 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 4: in regard as college football. And that's the reason why 426 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: we love college football so much historically speaking of course, is. 427 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: That you couldn't lose. 428 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: If you lost, that meant that your season was in jeopardy, 429 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: jeopardy after one loss. Now you can lose one, maybe 430 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: even two games and get into the college football playoff 431 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 4: and who knows what happens there. 432 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: We had a two loss team win the championship this year. 433 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, So at the end of the day, I 434 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 4: think that there's a level of intensity and that the 435 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: Shield does an excellent job of creating this intensity and 436 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 4: passion for consumption of the talent that's going out there 437 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 4: on the days that they're playing. And you're right, you 438 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 4: only get so much time with the game. Like people 439 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 4: be going through and I'm one of them. We be 440 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 4: going through like like postseason, like fallout, like like withdraw 441 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 4: like did I love the fact that the players get 442 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 4: an opportunity to play in the UFL and try to 443 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: make it into the NFL. It does not quench my 444 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 4: thirst for football NFL college. 445 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: It does not. 446 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: It still feels like there is a departure from what 447 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 4: life should be like when football season is not here 448 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 4: and to be to have been able to create that 449 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 4: type of buy in from a consumer, man, that's an ultimate. 450 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: Product, and it's very hard. It's very hard to. 451 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 4: Fight your way back from that type of established fandom 452 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 4: and viewership and buy in to a particular league of 453 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 4: particular sport. 454 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 2: So there's this old saying that nobody cares about your 455 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: fantasy football team. Like it just in general, when people 456 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: start complaining about their fantasy football team, it's what, like, man, 457 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: nobody cares. I don't want to hear about your fantasy team. 458 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: You know who does care about your fantasy team? The NFL, 459 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: Because I think fantasy football is as much to do 460 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: with this as anything because it's basically gambling, and it 461 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 2: was the I guess the show before the gambling show 462 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: started was fantasy football. So that was sort of your 463 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: appetizer to get you into what gambling could look like. 464 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: In the NFL, these games late in the season, like 465 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: that on a Christmas you could look at a Saints 466 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: Browns matchup just for example, that's not going to be 467 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: the matchup because the NFL realizes those teams are terrible. 468 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: That's why New Orleans and Cleveland don't have a primetime game. 469 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: But you could set that game up and there's going 470 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: to be an audience because somebody's going to have a 471 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: player from one of those teams on their fantasy team. 472 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 2: Somebody's going to have money invested in it. They've just 473 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: done more to make the sport presentable and interesting to people, 474 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: even if they don't. 475 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: Have a team. 476 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: And we've talked about this before you and I grew up, 477 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: it was like you had to have a team. Who's 478 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: your team? 479 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: And now and you've made the point because of fantasy football, 480 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: it isn't about that your team is your fantasy team. Yeah, 481 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: like listen, that's cool. You know so and so places 482 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: for this team, Like he's not on my team. That's 483 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: what's important. And I think the NFL recognized that, and 484 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: the NFL has taken advantage of that. And I think 485 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: fantasy football and gambling is the biggest reason why they 486 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: could just continued to take over because you could put 487 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: any matchup you wanted on and counter the NBA's matchup, 488 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: whatever it is, whatever interesting storyline the NBA things they have. 489 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: More people are gonna watch the NFL, because the NFL 490 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: has done a better job of making their product and 491 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: their league presentable and interesting to the consumer, and that's 492 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: why they've seen the spike in the numbers. 493 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: And the not you can do about it. You don't 494 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 4: have a Michael Jordan that can combat a Walter Payton. 495 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: You don't have a Shaquille O'Neill that can combat a 496 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: Ray Lewis. You don't have a Kobe Bryant that can 497 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 4: combat a Peyton Manning. You don't. You don't have the 498 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 4: star power. And that's no shape, I promise, that's no 499 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 4: shade towards towards the you know, SGA's or the Anthony 500 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: Atwards in the league, the Jason Tatum's or whoever else 501 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 4: you have as the Jannis or the Jokich's. It's no shade, 502 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 4: I promise. They just don't have the draw that a 503 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 4: Shaquille O'Neill had. You had an opportunity with Shaq, You 504 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 4: had an opportunity with Kobe. You had an opportunity with 505 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: mj and Scottie Pippen and even the mailman like by 506 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 4: by Market, you know, Magic Johnson. You had the opportunities 507 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 4: to have a captive audience and a large, tremendously passionate 508 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 4: viewing audience. When you develop those brands, but you're you're 509 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 4: at the risk of having strong branded players in the 510 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 4: NBA versus a strong brand the Shield that continues to 511 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 4: prove that even if Peyton Manning leaves, even if Tom 512 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 4: Brady he leaves, even if any of the best of 513 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 4: the best players that play in the National Football League 514 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: retire and are done, this league just continues. 515 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: To grow more and more and more, and. 516 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 4: They're finding more ways to expand and they build that 517 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 4: off of the brand of the Shield. And that might 518 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: have been the best asset created by the NFL owners 519 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: and and and what we've watched Paul Tagliaboo start and 520 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: and and have watched Roger Goodell continue to grow and build. 521 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: It's just it's. 522 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: They have created something so strong that they continue to 523 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: widen the gap between other sports, at least domestically. 524 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: And also to your point on Goodell, I don't think 525 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: he gets enough credit because a lot of it's, you know, 526 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: it's the cool thing to do booth the commissioner, Like uh, 527 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: you know, like the cool thing to do is booth 528 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: the commissioner. You know, when when Gary Bettman comes out 529 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: on the ice, they boom in the NHL, you know, 530 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: like Rob manforgets boom And he said some dumb things 531 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: before in the past, but that's the cool thing. Goodell 532 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: gets booed all that stuff. The one thing you can 533 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: be critical of maybe the way he handled punishments and 534 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: the NFL having too much say when it came to 535 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: off field crimes. And you know, there was obviously the 536 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: mismanagement of the Ray Rice video and what happened afterwards. 537 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: All of that is fair criticism. He did not do 538 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: a great job. But if from a business standpoint, he's 539 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: hitting out of the park. Like from a business standpoint, 540 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: there's a reason why the owners re elect him every 541 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: single time because he has had an eye to that 542 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: to your point, and he has recognized there's an ability 543 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: to grow the game and to cater to an audience 544 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: that if we do that, we will far surpass any 545 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: other quote unquote competition that's out there. And I think 546 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: that's what's happened and he deserves a lot of that 547 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: credit as well. 548 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 4: Well, you hit it earlier, and I just end with 549 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: this the mic drop is Goodell being able to be 550 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 4: able to incorporate and implement gambling and it being. 551 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: A legal deal where you're able to do it. 552 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 4: They're they're opening up sports books in in UH, in 553 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 4: the arenas, in the stadiums. Now, that's probably the singular 554 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: pad on the back that a boy that Roger Goodell 555 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: gets from these owners because it has probably taken revenues 556 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 4: up significantly, uh in terms of what they're able to 557 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: bring in and what what they weren't able to bring in. 558 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 4: But it still was out there and it's still existed Jonas. 559 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: Now they're able to bring that into their doors and 560 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: add that to their bottom line. So yeah, I mean 561 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: the things that they've done, the things that Roger Goodell 562 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 4: has done, have been very strategically sound, very intentional and 563 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 4: purpose and placing, and it's working. 564 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: You're seeing it work. 565 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 4: As you mentioned, You're you've created a larger fan base 566 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 4: based upon fantasy football. People who aren't even serious football 567 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 4: fans and still get involved with fantasy football. So and 568 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 4: even if it's not an aggressive way, a passionate way 569 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 4: of getting involved with the game, you still have people 570 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: that are passive, passive fans that are still getting involved 571 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 4: with the game because fantasy football brings them together. It's 572 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: like a night of Sorry or night of Monopoly or 573 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: whatever it may be, you know what I mean. 574 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: So it's super smart man. 575 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: And by the way, speaking of sorry, lead to Lap 576 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: is our executive producer here, Lee. 577 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: How many fantasy football. 578 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: Leagues are you in each year? 579 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: At least four, but probably closer to five. Okay, Like 580 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: he's a degenerate, I mean. And by the way, he 581 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: still hasn't paid anybody first. 582 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 4: I have paid them on he said he paid it all. 583 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: He said he he holds the money people. 584 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if that's the league, I would never enter. 585 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: I would never enter a league where lead the Lap 586 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 4: holds the money for the prize winners. Just wouldn't happen. 587 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 4: That's a bad mistake right out the gate. You're already 588 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: off to a. 589 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: Bad starts of Lead to Lats holding the money. That 590 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: means at some point Prestige Liquor in Burbank is. 591 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: Holding the money. That is very true. But I was 592 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: just layaway. That's the bank that's holding the money. 593 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: Right by the end, I'm just holding a win and 594 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 4: nuts so I don't have to pay out. 595 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, right. 596 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 7: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 597 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 7: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 598 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 7: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 599 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 7: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 600 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 7: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock Act. 601 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: It is time to get back into the discussion that 602 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: has run rough shot over the NFL and sports media 603 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: over the past several weeks, and it was the tush push. 604 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: Was the tush push going to be banned? Where they 605 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: going to get rid of the toush push? Well, apparently 606 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: somebody who doesn't even really play a key component to 607 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: the tush push, Saquon Barkley. He was on The Exciting 608 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: Mike's podcast, which is just a phenomenal name. Cooper de 609 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: Gene Reed Blank and Ship the Exciting Whites. They have 610 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: a podcast called The Exciting Like, yeah, they're called the 611 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: Exciting Whites. Oh yeah, they said it not me. 612 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: No reason to hate on them. They are exciting and 613 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 3: they're white. Well there you go. Actorate. 614 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: So Saquon Barkley, their teammate, was on their podcast and 615 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: had this to say about the potential of the tush 616 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: push possibly being banned before it was overruled. 617 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 9: But the banning thing of it, I think it's kind 618 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 9: of I think it's soft, to be honest, like the 619 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 9: teams that want to be in it, because everybody can 620 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 9: do it. Like it's not like a play that like 621 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 9: we only can do. Everybody can do trademark. Yeah, and 622 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 9: they're just we happen to have one of the best 623 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 9: and biggest old lines and Jalen Hurts can squat six 624 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 9: hundred pounds, Like that's not our fault. 625 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: Like Josh Allen is super big. 626 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 3: They're not successful with it. 627 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is one of the best running quarterbasketball time. 628 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: They're not successful with it. 629 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 9: So it's not something that like everyone can't do, so 630 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 9: like them trying to eliminate it. It's just like I 631 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 9: think that's kind of lane. 632 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, soft asses trying to get rid of the tush 633 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 4: push think about that Ibar that. 634 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: I mean, he's not wrong. If you can't beat them, 635 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 3: join them. 636 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: So basically what you're saying is is that that and 637 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 4: that play in that formation. The Philadelphia Eagles are bigger, stronger, 638 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 4: badder asses than you are everybody who's against it. All 639 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 4: you're basically saying is you're conceding the fact that the 640 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles are bigger, stronger, and better at doing this 641 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 4: play than any other team, and we don't want to 642 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 4: see them do it because it's an unfair advantage to 643 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles. 644 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 3: I can I ask you a question. 645 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 2: If the Titans did the tush push, is there even 646 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: a discussion about it getting banned? I think part of 647 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: this is because it's Philly, and because they're a bit 648 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 2: obnoxious at times, and they're a bit boisterous at times 649 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 2: about how they do things. 650 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 3: And you got their head. 651 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: Coach calling it first and nine whenever they get the ball, 652 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: because they're just going to get that final yard. 653 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: If it was if it was fire, it's great. 654 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: But if it was and if it was Tennessee or 655 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: or another organization that wasn't as lowed. I don't even 656 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: think this is even being talked about. I don't I 657 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: don't think people would care. 658 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 4: I think it is, and I think it is talked 659 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 4: about just because of the nature of the play, but 660 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 4: the intensity of it. The different storylines that have resonated 661 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 4: from it are purely because it's Philadelphia. It's purely because 662 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 4: it's Nick Sirianni. It's it's purely because of UH, this 663 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 4: team being UH that it fits the reputation of the 664 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 4: city of brotherly love. So to me, I think it's 665 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 4: a perfect storm play for the market, for the team, 666 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 4: what Philly represents. 667 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a tough, gritty, hard knows you know city. 668 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 4: Anybody who knows about Philadelphia, they know about the different 669 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 4: boroughs and the different different areas you know of a Philadelphia, 670 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 4: the suburbs, the inner city parts. They know about all 671 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: of it, and everybody has a certain way of how 672 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 4: things are done. And most would say, most would say 673 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 4: that it is a very very edgy, very gritty type 674 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 4: of place. So this play is the perfect fit for 675 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 4: what the Philadelphia Eagles represent to their fan base. So 676 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I tend to agree with Sakwon though. 677 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 4: If you got such an issue with it and you 678 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 4: feel like it's it's not a stoppable play, why don't 679 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 4: you adopt first and nine? 680 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 3: Why don't you adopt. 681 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 4: The ability to be able to run the toush push 682 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 4: knowing that you can get one yard at least one 683 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 4: yard when you need it, whenever you need to get it. 684 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you adopt that first and nine? That's what I mean, Great, 685 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: it's great putting it on the table. 686 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: Say this is what we're doing. Dare you, we dare 687 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 2: you to try and stop it. This is what we're doing. 688 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: It's first to nine, just so you know, like it. 689 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: But I and I watch it and I go this 690 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 2: has really become the biggest talking point of the NFL 691 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 2: off season as far as on the field stuff goes. 692 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: And it was this and then it turned. 693 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 4: Into this heated debate where you've got you know, Jeffrey Lorie, 694 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 4: you know, doing a comparison to a teenage boy's. 695 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 3: Wet dream and all that. 696 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: Like Philly's just they're in a place right now where 697 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: they know they're the champs. They're going to let everybody 698 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: know they're the champs. And I think next year they're 699 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: going to go out of their way to make an 700 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 2: example of people with this play. And we brought up 701 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 2: the possibility of this. Oh yeah, but we brought up 702 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: the possibility this on our show that they open up 703 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 2: the NFL season against the Cowboys. I would not surprise me. 704 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: The first chance they get first down, say it their 705 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 2: own twenty five thirty yard line, and they're just gonna 706 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 2: go tush push on the first play of the season, 707 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 2: just to stick it to the league and stick it 708 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: to everybody else's, Saquan pointed out, you know all the 709 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 2: lame asses out there who are soft enough to vote 710 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 2: against it, Like I think that's the way Philly's gonna 711 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: handle this, Like they know, Look, we may be on 712 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 2: borrow time. Eventually, they're gonna want to try and get 713 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 2: this taken out of the game. While we've got it, 714 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and stick it to everybody for as 715 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: long as we can. 716 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: Feels like something they would do. That feels like an 717 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: Eagles move. 718 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 4: I mean, why wouldn't you. And it don't look like 719 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 4: they slowing up. Look at what they they're doing personnel wise, 720 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 4: like they ain't slowing up. So don't think that they're 721 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 4: just going to go quietly into that good night. 722 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 3: They're not. You're gonna have to deal with us, you know, 723 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 3: I mean them. 724 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 4: You know, I'm Pittsburgh, dude, but I do love Pa 725 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 4: and I do rep Philly. You're gonna have to deal 726 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 4: with the Eagles, man, And that's just it is what 727 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 4: it is. They have a very very nice like this 728 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 4: is what you got to say, because you can't limit 729 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 4: them to just being one play, right, The Philadelphia Eagles 730 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 4: just won the Super Bowl. People like quick reminder, they 731 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 4: just won and they knocked off them boys, and I 732 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 4: ain't talking about Dallas. So when you look at what 733 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 4: they've been able to pool together, and it hasn't come 734 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 4: void of drama, hasn't come void of adversity. But adding 735 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 4: Saquon to this team was the single biggest move in 736 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 4: all of the National Football League in my estimation, having 737 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 4: what they already had on the defensive side of the 738 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 4: ball and continuing to add as some of the guys 739 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 4: like Brandon Graham retiring some of these guys leaving. They 740 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 4: are so deep with talent that looking at them, it's 741 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 4: almost crazy to think that most of these guys are 742 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 4: literally on rookie contracts, man and having the ability to 743 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 4: grow your team and figure out where to to you know, 744 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 4: mix and match or where to fill in and plug 745 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 4: in the gap. They're not just plugging in the gap 746 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 4: with serviceable players. They're plugging in the gap with guys 747 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 4: that are coming out of college that are perennial Pro Bowlers, 748 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 4: perennial All pros, just talented players. So the storyline is 749 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 4: much bigger than one play With Philadelphia, it just becomes 750 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: a funny story, a funny conversation if you ask me, 751 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 4: because it's almost like you, you know, the people who 752 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 4: are having such an issue with this play. It's almost 753 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 4: like you have an issue with the Philadelphia Eagles or 754 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 4: somebody that's a part of the philip Maybe it's Big 755 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 4: Dom you got an issue with. 756 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 3: I don't know who it is, but you got an. 757 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 4: Issue, and you're trying to paint this picture like the 758 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles are only good because of one play. You 759 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 4: could not be further from the truth of reality in 760 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 4: terms of what this team represents. It is a well 761 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 4: built team. It's turned into a well oiled machine. Jonas 762 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 4: so to say it's one one play, like, oh you 763 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 4: do away with the toush push, You're doing away with 764 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles success. Yeah, try that one. Try that 765 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 4: one out. See how that one ages. And I don't 766 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 4: think so. 767 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 3: Do you think? 768 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 4: Because you're a you're a brander, all right, You're you're 769 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 4: all about branding and uh and you know, putting, putting 770 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 4: a stamp on things to make it official. 771 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 3: And get it coverage and making it grow. 772 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking about stick Cicky stick City, Logger stick City. 773 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, getting get a little logger here soon. But it's 774 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: coming like, uh, if you're Anthony. 775 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 3: Barr okay and you're something for well. 776 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean he came up with it and he's nowhere 777 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: to be found. Like he's the inventor of the tush push. 778 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 2: And this was back when you know, he was with 779 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: the Vikings in twenty eighteen. He's a linebacker. He's not 780 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: even on offense. It's his idea, it's his brainchild, and 781 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: he gets none of the love, like, none of the 782 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 2: credit whatsoever. If I'm Anthony Barr, I'm pissed. This is 783 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 2: my invention. 784 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 3: What you're going to get out of it? Yeah? 785 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 1: Can he get like anything? 786 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 3: Way, No, you can't. You can't. 787 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 4: You can't make money off of a play like I mean, 788 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 4: it would be cool if he got money every time 789 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 4: it was. You know, if he was smart enough to 790 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 4: maybe purchase the rights to the name. I wouldn't be 791 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 4: surprised if the name is still available. Somebody might be 792 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 4: looking it up right now and parking it. It might 793 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 4: still be available, because you just wouldn't assume that you could, 794 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 4: you know, monetize. 795 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: I mean I preferred the brotherly shove personally, but you know, 796 00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 2: the tush push. 797 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 3: You know, people you know teach their own. That's what 798 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 3: that's what they like. But what was the official original though? 799 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 3: Do we know? 800 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 4: I don't know that he gave it. Did he give 801 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 4: it a name or did he just say this type 802 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 4: of play? You can't because I remember hearing the audio 803 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 4: of him saying it on the sideline, But did he 804 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 4: give it a play in particular? Like like, for instance, 805 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 4: why am I blinking on his name, the defensive end, 806 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 4: big defensive end, Deacon Deacon? Why was I blanking on 807 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 4: Deacon Jones? All right, Deacon Jones comes up with the sack, right, 808 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 4: and he coined it. He coined the phrase sack the sack, 809 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 4: and they started keeping it. As they said, Deacon Jones 810 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 4: might have had two three hundred sacks. Nobody knew about 811 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 4: it because they didn't keep that stack. And they started 812 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 4: keeping the stat after he was talking about sacking the quarterback. 813 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 3: So if you did it in that way, I see. 814 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if if Deacon Jones was making money 815 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 4: off of the words sack, But imagine every single time 816 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 4: they said the word sack, he got a residual from it. 817 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 3: I mean, that would be pretty dope. I don't know 818 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 3: if that exists here. 819 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 4: In this situation, he just watched Bruce Smith games and 820 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 4: get paid every time every time Bruce made a play. 821 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 4: There's a lot of them out here, man. Sacks are what. 822 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 4: Sacks are just as good as it's like a number 823 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 4: two ranking of a touchdown. 824 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 3: I would assume a sack is it's up there. It's 825 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 3: up there. I mean, you think about it. 826 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 4: The most prized defenders these days are guys that get sacks, 827 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 4: maybe even more so than interceptions. I would say more 828 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 4: so than interceptions. 829 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 2: If you just you could have, you'd be playing an 830 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 2: awful game. If you got one sack a game that 831 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 2: made your game, Like you're going to the Hall of Fame. 832 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 3: That makes your game. 833 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 4: You can if you can touch their one a quarterback 834 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 4: one time in a game and they say sack, you've 835 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 4: done well. 836 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 2: That's a that's a brutal existence for an offensive lineman, though, 837 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 2: Like you shut a guy out for ninety nine percent 838 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 2: of the game, but he got that one time and 839 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 2: because of that he's going to the Hall of Fame. 840 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 2: I mean, if you average one sack of game, that's 841 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 2: seventeen sacks, right, seventeen eighteen games is seventeen seventeen seventeen sacks. 842 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 2: Bro you get seventeen sacks and you have a ten 843 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 2: year career. You do that, Matt, I mean it won 844 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 2: every two games, and you have a ten year career, 845 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 2: you're approaching hundred sacks. You got a shot at being 846 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 2: going to the Hall of Fame. That's it's crazy, man like. 847 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 3: I mean, you're in the conversation. 848 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 2: So listen to Anthony Barr. We're trying, welcome, trying to 849 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 2: get you pays wet you some. We tried all right, 850 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: but the agens up taking it over.