1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you. Hear thought. I made myself perfectly clear. 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: But you're a guess to me. You gotta come to 3 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: be empty, and I said, no, guests, your presence is 4 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: presence enough. I already had too much stuff, So how 5 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: did you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm bridgerd Weininger. Time 7 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: is passing by. It's been a week. It's maybe maybe 8 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: been a month for you since you last heard from me. 9 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 2: Maybe it's been years. Time is passing is closing in. 10 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: I'm so happy you're here. I hope you're feeling well. 11 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: If you're not, hopefully by the end of the podcast 12 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 2: you'll be feeling terrific. Today I'm here with a one 13 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: of the funniest people maybe on the planet. She's a 14 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: comedy writer, but she's also now a big time author, 15 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: Best Calp. Welcome to the show, Bess, Thank you Bacher. 16 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: This is my author voice. It's beautiful. You need You've 17 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: been developing this for years. 18 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 4: Yes, can you hear my glasses? My Eileen Fisher tunic. 19 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 2: I'm visualizing right now. My hair is graying, just cascading 20 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: over your shoulders. You haven't conditioned in weeks now I 21 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: live in. Bess has a new book. It's called Nobody 22 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: will tell you this but me. I have read the 23 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: book and it's incredibly funny but also made me cry 24 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: multiple times. And so this is an exciting time for you. 25 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: I mean, just a few things about Bess. She's a 26 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: new mother, she's moving into a new house, she's got 27 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: a new book, and so obviously big priority is being 28 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: on my podcast. That's right, taking the time out of 29 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: her Saturday to come here and listen to me talk best. 30 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: What should we get into first? You're moving into a 31 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: new house. How I am? I am? 32 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: It's a It's a NonStop joy ride. 33 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 2: It's been so easy. Of course, there's been love. It's 34 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: been lovely. I don't even think about it's been a 35 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean I feel like you have had as someone 36 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: in a one bedroom apartment, I just have avoided this 37 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: sort of thing. But once you start getting into a house, 38 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: you start dealing with people. That's right. 39 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 5: You've dealt with some tough types. Yes, I've dealt with ruffians. 40 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 5: I've dealt with I've dealt with that abouts. You've dealt 41 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: with gout her snipes, bureaucrats. 42 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: I've dealt with. I've dealt with. 43 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 4: I dealt with the man I have. It's not the 44 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: worst the worst thing I, as Bridger knows. And and 45 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: now America, and let's be honest, the world will know. 46 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: The world is watching someone deep in Japan right now. 47 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 4: Someone someone in deep Japan, forest, subterranean, just a little transistor. 48 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Radio, someone taking a forest bath. They're trying to relax, 49 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: and they're about to just be the smell of cherry bloff, 50 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: filled with anxiety over bureaucracy and getting a home finished. 51 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: That's right. 52 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: I went up against the Los Angeles Department of Water 53 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: and Power, nine months pregnant. I used myself as my 54 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: I use my unborn child as my own prop to 55 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: see if expedite. 56 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: E, would you have a child? 57 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: I know this was it. This was This was a 58 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 4: precisely timed long con. Mommy is a little con jop. 59 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: No. I I used my child as a prop and 60 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: they laughed me out. Well was it over? It felt 61 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: like to me this vote from what I recall, somebody 62 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: who just needed to feel some control in their life, 63 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: some power over another human being. I'm going to say 64 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: the most horrifying sentence that has been recorded, which is 65 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: this person graduated college in twenty sixteen. Oh God, Grave, 66 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: you were dealing with a fourteen year old boy. Yeah, 67 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: he's just a mean street. 68 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 4: I know, with his with his spots on his face, 69 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: his glass is held together by tape, grass stands on 70 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 4: his No. 71 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: I mean he looked like a man. And I was just. 72 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: This, this hormonal cow with a wikipedia's knowledge the way 73 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: cable is run from the street to a home. And 74 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: as man looked at me and said, we can't air 75 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: condition you are baby. 76 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: This is so. This was just power the air conditioning. 77 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: This was just a power the air conditioning. 78 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: And you know, not to be not to you know, listen, 79 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 4: every body can tell that I am covered in times 80 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: and first not to not to be that, but also heat. 81 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 4: I would have loved heat too. And he told he 82 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 4: told mommy's baby. 83 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: No, and what was his Also, I don't want to 84 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: get you into any legal trouble beyond I will defend 85 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: the sky. Listen. 86 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: I've seen every episode of Damages, as you know, most 87 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: episodes of the Good Wife, the sexiest ones. And I 88 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: can stand before a judge and say, this is a. 89 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: Fishing absolutely, your honored, this is a fishing extra And 90 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: I bet he would stand up and clap, and I 91 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: bet he would cry. Yes, he would probably connect with 92 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: you as a good wife watcher. That's right, you could talk. 93 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: That's right. You go. I'm sorry you teamed Florida. It 94 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: means nothing to me. That means everything to the manager 95 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: listens to. 96 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: I said, no gifts and the good fight, good fight, 97 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: the good averse. This is my good fighting side. And 98 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: and so what. 99 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: We're what what? What? 100 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: What? 101 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: What are we talking about? Okay, so here, here's what 102 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: it was. We bought a falling. 103 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: Down old hash Sure, essentially. 104 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 4: It was it was it was there was sort of 105 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: a rat enjoying a bean. 106 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: Anyway, We had this old house. 107 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: I wanted to put it up to code, and I 108 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: had to beg a young bureaucrat to do that in 109 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: a reasonable timeline. A few months and he said eight months. 110 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: And he said it will be eight months, two and 111 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 4: nine months pregnant. So we were moving. 112 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: Now. 113 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 4: My son is now a gynecologist, respected, a. 114 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 6: Revered, a disgraced enough time to be revered, and then 115 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 6: has fallen from absolutely canceled. 116 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: We all thought he was going place. We did. We did. 117 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: The amount of money I poured into that baby's education best. 118 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: You and I have known each other I think for 119 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: about five years, yes, former co workers. Yes, we've been 120 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: through a lot together. Yes, I mean. One big event 121 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: I can say right off the bat is we've been 122 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: to the Scientology Center and just lied, lied to the people. 123 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: I mean, should I be mentioning this religion? Maybe we 124 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: should change its name, maybe we should call it Scienceology. 125 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: We've been to the Scienceology. We went and got our 126 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: personality test. 127 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: We did. 128 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: We got the Oxford personality test. Here's I mean for 129 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: four men in hakone let's explain. So we bridge and 130 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: I we read, we read going clear? 131 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: Yes, And what was the other one? Inside Scientology? I 132 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: read I really oh deed in about twenty fourteen. I 133 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: went all over it, all overboard. Yeah. But we were curious, right, 134 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: and I did what I do, which is I read 135 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: like the first eighty pages of something and then never 136 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: stopped talking about it. Well, I think with Scientology, you've 137 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: got the idea. Yes, but we were both angry, yeahc 138 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: to say, we were both steaming mad, but also so intrigued. 139 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: Yes, And we were sitting there in our office with 140 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: our dear lovely friend Jeff, who wanted to die put. 141 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Up with what's happening here for about eight hours a day. Yes, 142 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: this was right. Now. 143 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: If Jeff is listening to this, it is because it's 144 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: part of exposure therapy that his therapist is making him do. 145 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: He listened to us, right. Part of a romance novel. 146 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, part of four romance novels. It was a quadrilogy, 147 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: a google. 148 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 2: The guarantee was going to be that every page someone 149 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: would have sex. Yes, and we stayed true to that 150 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: promise until we stopped writing a book. 151 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I would say, I would say the book delivered NonStop, 152 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: passionless sex written from the perspective of I would say, 153 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 4: a middle aged woman who very clearly has never had. 154 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: Never even maybe even seen some like a visual representation 155 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: of sex, Like I'm talking to someone who guessed textures, guests, 156 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: an alien kind of poking in the dark at the 157 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: idea of human sexuality. Right, Maybe she'd. 158 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 4: Seen a diagram, possibly, but maybe just a constellation where 159 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: they said that's a woman, that's a man. 160 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: No, just have him go at it. It's somewhere in 161 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: the New England countryside. 162 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: It was. 163 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: It was New England, both in the universe, in the 164 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: quadri in the quadrilla verse. 165 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: Uh, the it was a small sleepy town. I don't 166 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: want to give away too much. 167 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: Because it's going to be I mean, you're now an author, 168 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: you have power to get this thing. People after your book, 169 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: they're going to be said, where's the sex? That's right, 170 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: they would say, I loved the Grandma book. I loved it. 171 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: Where was the heat? Where was where? Where was the 172 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: The bodice was unripped. I felt nothing below my waist. 173 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: You could stab me in the leg. It was completely numb. 174 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: I was numb. I had ayelchair. 175 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 4: This book is my current book is I would say 176 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 4: it is an epidural. You could have your legs cut off, 177 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 4: cut off. You could have your legs cut off our book. 178 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: On the other hand, you're gonna have to watch, just 179 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: your watch. 180 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: I can't read. You're gonna have to. You're gonna have 181 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: to read in a padded room. You're gonna have to. 182 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to. 183 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: Let's just put it this way. It's a it's a 184 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: box of tissues a page. God, it's a horny book. 185 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 4: But no, what we were doing with scientology was back 186 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: to back to scientology. This is a linear conversation and kind. 187 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: Of just stay on topic and really dig into something 188 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: rather than bouncing a to b to see a handshake 189 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: and we leave. People are always they know what's going on, 190 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: and that's what's important. Right. People have many tabs. You 191 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: can pause and come back and you'll know exactly what was. 192 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have missed a beat and you will follow along. Okay, Scientology. 193 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: So I think we were both. We were titillated and mad. Yes, 194 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: and they are begging people to come down and get 195 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: their personality told to them. That's right, and through what 196 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: kind of a scantron test? Yes, it was. It was. 197 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 2: It was triggering. Yes, you go, So you go down 198 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: to Scientology HQ. Right before we got there, though, we 199 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: had to agree on a series of bizarre something more bizarre. 200 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: We decided we were going to not give our name 201 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 2: and also leave our driver's licenses in the car, that's 202 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: in case we were asked for them and park around 203 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: the corner. Park around the corner. They had cameras take 204 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: care a license. Late. 205 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: At this point, while we're planning this in the Jeff 206 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: has just started saying, don't do this. This is a 207 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 4: bad idea. I'm going to have to rescue you, which 208 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: I think eventually you two will be with Shelley miscavige. 209 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: But we agree in the conference room in Florida. 210 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: I hope not Jesus Christ, Shelley, if you're out there 211 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: and probably in Japan. 212 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: Shelley, you're in Japan, Shelley, you're living a I like 213 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: to think that she's in that hot tub. 214 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: She's who we're talking. Our voices are crackling through, and 215 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: she's just thinking, Oh, I'm not I haven't vanished completely. 216 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm alive. Yeah, David, I'm David. I'm a prune. I'm 217 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: hungry for a little fish. I would love a little fish, 218 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: a little rice. Just lie down. 219 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: On the mat. 220 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: I love that she's listening from Japan. You. Yes, Shelley, 221 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: this is for you, your revenge. This is your revenge. 222 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: I love this episode. So we park around the corner. 223 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: We leave our goddamn driver's licensees in your glove compartment, 224 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: and we agreed on names. I can't remember your name. 225 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: Should we tell our fake name? We can't, I can't record. Yeah, 226 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: So at this point my name was Damon Mountaineer. 227 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: And my name was Helena Troy. God damn it, I'm 228 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 4: a drag queen. 229 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: I think we bought a really good Helena tro Troy's gorgeous. 230 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: I have to change it because that's true. My name 231 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: was Helena Crusoe. Okay, so we went in. 232 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: With these fake names. But I think that was kind 233 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: of the only information we agreed on, which was maybe 234 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: not a great idea. Rest was fly by the seat 235 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: of but we worst pants at the time. We didn't 236 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: realize that when you go into what is kind of 237 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: like this lifeless cubicle space. 238 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's in a former hospital. It's in the 239 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: hospital on something. Yes, painted blue, painted a horrible blue, 240 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 4: which is their worst. 241 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: The weirdest blue possible. Yes, clearly bought on clearance or 242 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: something hardware store was closing down the color. Yes, that's 243 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: why it's on clearance. In their right mind would paint 244 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: something the color of painters tape. You don't know where 245 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: the this is somehow made a hospital look worse. Right, 246 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: let's make people more anxious. But they kind of guide 247 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: you into this room and then immediately separate you, which 248 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: is something we had not counted. 249 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: All right, We did, I think, agree on one thing, 250 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: which is don't let them tear. 251 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: Us apart, and we immediately gave up killer goodbye. No, 252 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: I was, I was. I was terrified. I was. 253 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 4: I think we were both I'll say it. I think 254 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: we were both more scared for the other person than 255 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 4: for us. 256 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: Of course, of course, but we're also willing to betray 257 00:14:59,240 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: the other's right. 258 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: As soon as the slightest, the slightest provocation, I would 259 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: kill I. 260 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: Would have asked to do it. I would as as 261 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: as your dear friend. I would have wanted to be 262 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: the one, and of course to throw out. But yeah, 263 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: they so they separate you from maybe like a half hour, 264 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: would you say, protest, which is but we. 265 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: Did agree on how our personalities would be different because 266 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: we wanted to game the system. 267 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember plan I'm. 268 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: Being this is this is the part where Jeff said, 269 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: you're going to forget this. 270 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Neither of you can commit to this. Good at improv 271 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: neither of you are good at anything. Neither of you 272 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: can even come up with a coherent storyline. Look at 273 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: your book. 274 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: Yes, it delivered the it delivered the titillating Can I say, 275 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: can I say jizz? You can say, yes, it delivered 276 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: the jizz Jeff Yellow listen rated XOCA podcast, and but 277 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: it didn't deliver the coherent narrative you expect from two 278 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: people who in conversation. 279 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: Are so very are just kind of very very and 280 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: easy to understand. What's going on a flowing river. You 281 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: would be a psycho, a psychopath who would be definitely 282 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: committed to sea or I was going to be somebody 283 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: there ready to be part of the organization. 284 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 4: Yes, and I would try to be an officer, and 285 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: it required you to be erratic, show signs of severe trauma, 286 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: and love the sort of prison industrial complex, and love authority, 287 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: the perfect guy. Describe a toilet for a tooth billion years. 288 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: And I would have This is I've been talking back 289 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: to me. Remember I sent in one hundred. But this 290 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: is okay. But what you're about to say is not 291 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: how we planned on it. This is where it became 292 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: a problem, right, because we kind of agreed on these 293 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: basic qualities. We went into the things and interviewed, but 294 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: our stories became started to go in a way that 295 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: was not good for because later they would reconvene and 296 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: talk about us, and I was telling I essentially told 297 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: them that I was a drifter with a gambling problem 298 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: who had seen his brother die in a lake. That's 299 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: right from the Phil Collins. But you are also fine. 300 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: You were also my financial you were my yes, was 301 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: in charge of your moment. You're the guardian of my estate. 302 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: But meanwhile you're telling them. 303 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 4: I'm telling them I've been this. So I wanted to 304 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: be an officer. And by the way, with that scantron 305 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: test I paid, I was sweating. 306 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: I was working harder than when I took the SAT God. 307 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: I needed to get every question right because I had 308 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: to be an officer and the questions, the questions of 309 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: the scienceology test were difficult because no circle is answer 310 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: right right right there. But I so I told them this. 311 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: Helena's backstory was she was grieving because that's a big cell. 312 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: It's like, we can get you over, agreed. They ask 313 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: you like, tell us about some traumatic things have happened 314 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: to me best. That's where my leg story came from. 315 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: And what my father, Yes, and who was in charge 316 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 2: of a telecom. 317 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: Or he was big in Hollywood and he his money 318 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 4: was from big telecom, which if you had a gun 319 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: to my head, I couldn't tell you what that means. 320 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: I think that means he installs phones. Yeah, I mean 321 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: I think at this point it's kind of a succession 322 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: style Roy Star had in this situation. Is this character 323 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: on Succession. You were the drifter who watched it. I 324 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 2: was the guy who dies in the lake. You were 325 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: the guy who dies a spoiler. That's a spoiler of 326 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: season one. But I'm sorry. You were the sexy waiter. 327 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: I was who was. 328 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: And I was in a turtleneck and pants with an 329 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: ask them. 330 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: Kind of claying every side. I was, yeah, well, I'm 331 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: kind of just being forgotten and kind of tweaking in 332 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: your in your water logged car. Yeah, kind of the 333 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: only person who remembers me is Kendall Roy. Oh, I forgot. 334 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: I'll never forget you. But yeah, So I was telling 335 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: him I wasn't somehow you were telling them I was 336 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: in charge of your money. Well, I was telling them 337 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: I had a gambling The. 338 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 4: Other thing, the other thing that we had agreed on, 339 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 4: which is we can't give them money because we both 340 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 4: I think knew how week we were. 341 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: I think having to agree that we weren't going to 342 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: give them any money. 343 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 4: Implicitly in that is we're going to be separated and 344 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: we're going to do whatever they. 345 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: Yes, it's essentially a sales situation, and I will buy, 346 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: I will buy so but yeah, that's uh. And then 347 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: later they obviously I think mine ended a little bit 348 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: before yours, and so I was shuffled off into something 349 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: to watch a video about suicide or some dark that 350 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 2: got going on. And then you were inside and then 351 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 2: they they took me to the inter Sanctum. That's right. 352 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 2: They took you to a place. I think they were like, oh, 353 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: this guy, because the last thing I told him I 354 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm sorry, I can't come to any meetings. 355 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: This is this weekend. 356 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: I'm going to Reno, right, a place where only a 357 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 4: drifter would go. We just there goes our Reno audience. 358 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 4: And then they took you into some other They gave 359 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 4: me banana chips, which was very luxurious because I was 360 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 4: very hungry at this point, and I think they knew 361 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: that that's insane. 362 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: It was hungry because I was. 363 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: I think they saw how much potassium I had lost 364 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: through my sweat, and you know, baby needed gorp. But 365 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: I but look, I so I did what very I'm 366 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: here to tell you and Shelley that I did very 367 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 4: well on the Oxford Personality Test because I answered according 368 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 4: to what I knew. They were looking for sure we 369 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: were trying to game them, that we were being hopelessly gamed. 370 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: I said all of the right things. I said that 371 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: I love. One of the weirdest. 372 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: Questions was how comfortable are you with being punished without 373 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: an explanation? And I was I was like, great, I 374 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: love it. I love it. And I also said I. 375 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 4: Love doing the punishing. And I think as I answered that, 376 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, this is the first 377 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: time I've been honest with myself. 378 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I mean, to this day, it's like, 379 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: what was the most wormative experience? And really, but it's 380 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: like when I joined idology, because from that day forward 381 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: you found yourself. 382 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: But here's where I really used the craziest part of 383 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: my brain. 384 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: This is I don't love this about me. And so 385 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: I'll tell everyone. 386 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: You're given an E meter reading yes, and there's no 387 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 4: way to fake that because it's fake nonsense. And so 388 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: they'll like, you know, you put lotion on your hands, and. 389 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: They put like a cheap Yeah, for all that money, 390 00:21:50,480 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: Tom Cruise, for all that movie money, movie stars. 391 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 4: Stars on the planet, I don't know why about I 392 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 4: still think I have a chance with Tom Cruise, And 393 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 4: that's why that's I think we all do. 394 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: I think we all? You and I both this is 395 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: our next gambite us Tom's number. Let us Tom. It'll 396 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: be like a competition. That's right. Honestly, I would watch 397 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: this movie. I would write the first four pages of 398 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: this movie and forget about it. A Google doc with you. 399 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: Okay, so we so we're then after our E meter reading, Uh, 400 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: interviewed by two people, and you had an older South 401 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: African woman. 402 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: That's right, I told you have My memory is truly horrified. 403 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: Again, the most important day of my life. I learned 404 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 4: about myself. 405 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah maybe like a fifty five year old South African largest. 406 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. She was really a beautiful uh probably at 407 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: some point hopeful individual. She sort of had the vibe 408 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 2: of Holly Hunter in Top of the Lake. 409 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 5: Yes, like. 410 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: Amazing gray wisdom, but the earthiness just pull. 411 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 4: She was in her polyesters caterer style at the worst 412 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: cousin's wedding. That's right, like, oh the shrimp is warm. 413 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: I can't believe you remember that. Okay, So they take 414 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: you off, they give you banana chips, which is so 415 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: just say that. 416 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: This is where I say that I'm a psychopath, and 417 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 4: and why I why I am absolutely bad is that 418 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: my person who I was interviewed by was clearly sick. 419 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 4: He had the flu, and in scienti science ology, you 420 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 4: can't get sick. Yeah, that's right, And so he was 421 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 4: denying it the whole time. This guy with red, puffy eyes, 422 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: runny nose, like sleepy and yellow, you know, he was 423 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 4: just like sallow. 424 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: I think maybe he had jaundice. I'm sure he clearly 425 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: had the flu. And this bro who was like a 426 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: he was like a. 427 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 4: He was a bro kind of guy who would like 428 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: go into banking, but wasn't smart enough to actually make 429 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: a lot of money, so just did coke and that 430 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 4: made bad friends. And so this bro who got sold 431 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 4: up the river by scientology looks at me and goes, 432 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not sick. 433 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: I just I'm not sick. I that I've lost my 434 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: voice from talking to people all day. And so I megged. 435 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: Him throughout the whole time he was interviewing me. I 436 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: was like, if you're not feeling well, we can do 437 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: this another time, I could talk to someone else. Or 438 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 4: if you're not feeling well, do you need a cough 439 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: chop or a tissue yourself for some grapefruit juice. I 440 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: may as well, but I kept saying, if you're not 441 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 4: feeling well, I reclaimed the power. 442 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: That's incredible. If she promoted me, I know, because I 443 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: know that he can't be sick if he's and so 444 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: I kept telling him that he was sick. This little bitch, 445 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: you absolutely could take over too. I think that's how 446 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: we get Shelley back. Yeah, you just rise up. Listened 447 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: to this except for Shelley us turn off now, d now, David, 448 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: move on. If you meet like a young, uh gorgeous, 449 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: ambitious woman feels like she's climbing the ranks at a 450 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: really fast rate, promote, promote. It's funny because I look 451 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: so bad because I haven't slept in three months. 452 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 4: No, I'm an infant. 453 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: The Yeah, so that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna 454 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: rise up the ranks. I'm gonna take it down. 455 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: And I guarantee that's how everyone in scientology. 456 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 2: It's full of people who came in like us and 457 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 2: ended up being like, you know, it's a practical, it's 458 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: a philosophy. I got a you know, kind of a 459 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: family at this point. Yeah, I got a ani de presence. 460 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 4: And now I'm just perversely attached to my mentor here 461 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 4: because I'm hanging on mentally by a threat. 462 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: I was looking for a community that smokes right, community 463 00:25:52,560 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: that just talks to people on the street. No, Bess, 464 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: of course this podcast is called I said no Gifts, 465 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: and I invited you you here maybe last week and 466 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: made it pretty clear what the title of the podcast was. 467 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: I feel like it's kind of explains the one ground rule. 468 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: And then I hear you kind of clicking down the 469 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: hallway towards the studio earlier, and you come through the 470 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: door holding a bag. Yes, did you bring me a gift? Bride? 471 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: I hate to say it, I brought you a gift. Unbelievable. 472 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. So do you want me to open it 473 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: now on the podcast or is this something I should 474 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: wait till later. This is the only time either of 475 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: us can carve out of the day for us, I'm 476 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: very busy. I know that you don't have much going on, 477 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: and so no. As I said, the move is easy. 478 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 2: Everyone should move with an infant. It's easy. It's nice 479 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: move once a year, foliating. Just it is. 480 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 4: My skin has never looked better from packing boxes and crying. Okay, 481 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 4: I brought this bag. And the bag I guess you know, Shelley, 482 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: if you're still listening, the. 483 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: Bag is amazing, because would you go ahead and read it? 484 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: It's a CBL fine art. West Orange. 485 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 4: West Orange is a town in New Jersey where my 486 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 4: grandparents live. My sweet grandparents came across the country to 487 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 4: meet their great grandson with a bag of gifts in 488 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 4: the bag. 489 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: From the art store that they got it. 490 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: My grandma held this bag on my living grandma, my 491 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 4: grandma Judy, who I love. 492 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: She held this on her lap on the airport. Oh, 493 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: that's incredibly sweet, and took. 494 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 4: Out all kinds of noisemakers that I immediately threw. 495 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: Out bothering me. No, I didn't have the baby for 496 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: it to developmentally learn. I had a baby. I had 497 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: a baby to scam the city. Those toys have all 498 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 2: been given to your cats. 499 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 4: They've been given to my cats, who are currently humping 500 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 4: them at home, my real baby. 501 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: So this I did not know that. 502 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 4: I did not know that we would be telling our 503 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 4: scientology story on the podcast. 504 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: Oh your kid not play interesting? Oh, I'm very excited 505 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: to see whatever lies thematically it is, I would say 506 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: linked Oh, my good grief. I can't wait to open 507 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 2: whatever what Basically Bess has just removed something from the 508 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: bag that is I would say, roughly ten inches by 509 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: ten inch square, wrapped in a blue tissue. 510 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: Paper wrapped is nice? Im me try this is? This 511 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: is like a me level wrapping. I would say, maybe 512 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: a little bit better than I would do. 513 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say, I'm normally a very good I 514 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: feel like you would be a good wrap gift wrapper. 515 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: And I take giving you gifts very seriously. 516 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: You are. I mean, you've given me some beautiful things. 517 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: I gave you a tombstone for a cat you didn't have. 518 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: It was incredible, which lies in my closet for the 519 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: next cat I get to die. So we're looking like 520 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty years down the road, this thing will 521 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: be left hopefully a thirty year old cat still living 522 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: him through college and then try to get him out. 523 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: But then what else is new you? Let's see, you've 524 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: also given me just a desk which is in my 525 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: bedroom currently lamp bedside lamps. I mean, basically, my I 526 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: am that person who's taking advantage of you. I'm that 527 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: person you would just let me control your finances. Let 528 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: me okay, let's see what's happening here. We'll get some, 529 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: you know, for the gift wrap freaks. This is the 530 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: sound that you love. Just unwrapped this. Let's see here. Okay, 531 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: so this is Oh my goodness, this is a is 532 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: this tarot cards? Read who it's from? It's oh, show 533 00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: the discretion. Wait, I don't know, show God, see what 534 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: is it called? 535 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 4: I want to say, no country for old wild wild country. 536 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: This is. 537 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: Credible. This is this is the life all of the 538 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: salad barsson, the salad bars and something. 539 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 4: So this is life advice from a man who got 540 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 4: his best course of action was to poison a town. 541 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: Oh, this is incredible. He spread kind of like fecal 542 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: matters throughout salad bars, followers poop in the Oregon. I 543 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: need to go back to looking cat. It looks beautiful 544 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: and everybody in red and red kind of time of 545 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: your life? Who was number two in the organization? I 546 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: loved her? Sheila, Sheila man a Sheila man a Sheila 547 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: queen and a goddess who actually made good. This I 548 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: mean to me, this makes me think there's some sort 549 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: of power with O. Show I do too, because why 550 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: else would we have been talking about another powerful cult. 551 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: This whole thing is show. I have to stress that 552 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: there was no this is this is in a Vegas 553 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: style hand. 554 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: And neither of us are good enough actors to pull 555 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 4: off this. Actually Bridger is of course, of course castaway. 556 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 4: This is I'm opening. I'm just frantically opening. 557 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this okay. So I've got the Tarot 558 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: cards out. I wish I knew how to read tarot, 559 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: because I would do your tarrort. 560 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 4: I don't know how to read tarot either. The reason 561 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: I got this is it was on super sale because 562 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 4: after Oceha went down, this has been this has been 563 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: in my house for. 564 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: A long time. 565 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 4: I couldn't say no to it because they sold this 566 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: to me from a bookstore for one dollar ninety nine cents, 567 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: which it was right, I'd rather not say this. 568 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: Was Let's just put it this way. 569 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 5: Skylight, Skylight, wonderful bookstore in California. 570 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 4: But once, but once, once the Wild World Country came out, 571 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: they could nobody's You wouldn't line a dog craid with this. 572 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 4: This is ya man who put poop in a beautiful 573 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: town's a beautiful retirement town. 574 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: Salad with that watch them die. 575 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: But honestly, it looks gorgeous, and it's multi denominational. 576 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: You and I come from different faiths, and but I 577 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: think this is now our face. I think we're both 578 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: going to just say good us. We both would look 579 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: really interesting in red. Red is certainly not my color. 580 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: Do you feel like I feel like you look. 581 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 4: Good in a red You were saying that, but I 582 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 4: think I would look I would look like a corpse. 583 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm so albino. And yeah, I think neither of our 584 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: skin tone works. They would say that corpse bled out. 585 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, what do what? So I bet 586 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: you would look rosy. I don't think I would look 587 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: There's no elements where people have been like, oh, yes, 588 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: color and picture other than when I'm deeply sunburned. But 589 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: we've got to do it. Yeah, it's what it's taught us. 590 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: In a jumpsuit holding a machine gun. Can do purple, purple, Yeah, green, purple. 591 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: Like I was wondering recently, would yellow be a color 592 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: I could with that work on me? Oh, show allowed purple, purple, 593 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: Let's see purple. Yeah. Yellow. By the way, the answer 594 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: is yes, you'd look yellow. 595 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 4: Yes, because Oscar dress Jessica Chastain, Where is that yes, 596 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 4: but she can have to do a red lip. 597 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: She looked like Jessica Rabbit, which I would love, of course. 598 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: So I wonder if he did the art on these or. 599 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 4: What probably had one of his sex lives. 600 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's true. He had thousands of people just 601 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: the kind of he was in his Yes, and he was. 602 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: In the roles shooting guns, farming and having the time 603 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 4: of their lives. 604 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: Running like a gift shop. Yes, because that's how they 605 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: get you. Yeah. Can you imagine going to a sail 606 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: at that gift shop? I would be in hogham and Ritchie, 607 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: you should go? Does it that em? I know it's 608 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: still there. 609 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: So I looked up when I when you said I 610 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 4: said no gifts, I was like, finally there's somebody to 611 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 4: give my oshow Taro deck to. 612 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: Sure I would have given it to you even if 613 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: it weren't in this setting. 614 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 4: But the I looked up, I was like, please let 615 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 4: this really be oh show, because I know when I 616 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 4: bought it it was discounted to the extent that there 617 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 4: was something horrible, that's right, And so. 618 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: I googled the the thing on the back of it, 619 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: and it tried to get me to go to poone 620 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: India to their to their meditation for treat and he 621 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: is I want to say dead. She was still alive. 622 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 2: She was alive and it works Denmark, Yes, works with 623 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 2: special needs that she had kind of amazing. I mean, 624 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: despite like maybe being responsible for someone else. 625 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 4: That's bad and also just taking advantage of thousands of 626 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 4: manipulating them. 627 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 2: Children were involved, but it started off as a mother. 628 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: I would never manipulate No, not in a million years. 629 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, so somebody is still running the thing, but 630 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: it's kind of become chill. There's like a corporate element 631 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 2: to it on some level. Right, How beautiful this is. 632 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 2: It's kind of got a salmon color. It's like somebody 633 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: water colored this hand painting. And it has sixty beautiful 634 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 2: cards illustrating parables and teaching stories from the world's greatest 635 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: wisdom traditions, oh, Zen, Buddhism, all sorts of things here. 636 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: It's a veritable salad bar. Yeah, of course, this is 637 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 2: why you said best is one of the funniest comedians. 638 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: This is it. This is you finally finally embarrassing all 639 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: over his face. He's brought this woman on his podcast 640 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: and she is done after done, just sort of whiffing. 641 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: I keep saying what I can't hear you. I literally 642 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: can't hear you. I was thinking recently maybe a new 643 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: another podcast would be called Don't You Tell Me to 644 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: Calm Down? And it's just two people kind of screaming, 645 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: screaming at each other. If Jeff came off, I just 646 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: feel him disapproving of. 647 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 4: Us screaming I I really do want to. It's one 648 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 4: of the funniest things I've ever read. Is a tweet 649 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 4: that you wrote that was I. 650 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: Just want to and I'm gonna I think nothing that 651 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: I think there's nothing you would like better than me. 652 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: Of course, kind of in the silence. 653 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 4: I've never seen bridgermore quiet than when I said one 654 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: of the funniest things I've heard. 655 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: You may as well have started, but you could start 656 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: playing a harp. Just give it just a little, just 657 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: a lovely little atmosphere behind it so people can drink 658 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 2: it in. But no. One of the truly is one 659 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 2: of the funniest things I've ever read. It's a recent 660 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 2: one and he said, I just want to get to 661 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: the point in my career where I can end a 662 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: phone call screaming. Figure it out. That's a real feeling. 663 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 2: I know that it wasn't a joke. That's why I 664 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 2: bring it up. I know, you know people are like, ha, 665 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: what a cookie take. But I read it and I 666 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: just said, yes, I'm ready. I'm ready to just start 667 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 2: get their baby. And I would say, I want to 668 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 2: be the person on the other hang up and go oh, 669 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: I want to just want to die. She's a nightmare, 670 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 2: he said. He looks amazing and purple, but he's a 671 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: freaking nightmare ever since I got the tarot. No, yeah, 672 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: this is going to change it. Let me ask you, 673 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 2: how do you what is your general feeling on tarot bad? 674 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: They were like, you don't enjoy any element of First 675 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: of all, I don't want to know. I don't want 676 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: you don't want to too much eyeliner telling me my 677 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 2: how I'm going to die. 678 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 4: I know how I'm going to die. And it's private, 679 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 4: that's your little secret. It is roller blade underneath a 680 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 4: low flying plane. 681 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 2: Just kind of ripped off by the No, I di 682 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: have a heart attack. It's not that low. Your heart 683 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: already splashing, but the rollerblades take me down. She was 684 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: dead before they yes, yes, she died three times. She 685 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: kept coming back. Yeah, Taro. 686 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 4: Here's what I think. I think it's nonsense. I think 687 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 4: if you believe in it, then you know, more power 688 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 4: to you. 689 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: But you're an idyho. I mean I'm basically on the 690 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 2: side of that. But in the last couple of years 691 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: I've come to on some level with Taro and this 692 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: sort of thing. It's like it's almost an as Mr 693 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: level thing where I get to sit with someone and 694 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 2: they get to say things to me, and I get 695 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: to just kind of project whatever I feel onto the 696 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 2: things they're putting in front of me. Right now, I 697 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 2: really want to get I really want to get my sincerely. 698 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 4: I know that. 699 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 2: I mean I would know. I would like, I'm dying 700 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 2: that I can't do this for you know, we're too stupid. 701 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just gonna lay out three cards and 702 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 2: describe what they look like readers. I know, it's like 703 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 2: eight cards. 704 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 4: Maybe that's what's powerful about Taro is that there all 705 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 4: it's always something general and then you can project exactly 706 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 4: stuff onto it. 707 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 2: And that is what therapy is. 708 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 4: So I'm someone going, oh, tell me more about that, 709 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 4: and you're like, you know what, she's a genius. 710 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 2: She went to Colombia and that I'm going to look 711 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: at the carpet for thirty. 712 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,439 Speaker 4: Minutes comfortably, and by the way, lie through my teeth 713 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 4: if I just want to. 714 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 2: Like me, I'm not giving you any any entrance into 715 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: what I actually have. Definitely not. Okay, So I'm putting 716 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: down one card now. This first card is kind of 717 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: two men kneeling in robes tossing no one Okay, so 718 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 2: one is I think, tossing roses in the air. The 719 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 2: other man has arrows flying down at him. Okay, so 720 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 2: one's afraid. One is kind of joyous. It means, oh 721 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 2: do I wait. Yeah, I'm gonna lay down. I'm so sorry. Fine, 722 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 2: there's a science to taro that I'm very serious about. Good. 723 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 2: Second card, we've got what I can only describe is 724 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: the boyfriend teaching the girl how to throw a football 725 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: style pose of a man behind a woman teaching her 726 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: to shoot a bow and arrow, which is explaining catness. Yes, 727 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 2: and he's kind of in a flowing like his robe 728 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: is could very well be open, and he's obviously nude 729 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: beneath that. 730 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 4: While we're going to be wearing that's a red robe. 731 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 4: That's what we're gonna be wearing when we. 732 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 2: Live in poo. Yeah, and she's kind of in an 733 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: Esmeralda style turquoise dress shooting a bow and arrow. And 734 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 2: then finally we've got like a mother and a child 735 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: with a plate they're approaching, a man with blue hair, 736 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: topless man, so and each til a top topless boy, 737 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 2: too topless boy. Yeah, we've got too topless males and 738 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 2: a woman that okay, yeah, I'm going to say that's 739 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 2: the mother or older friend or you know, May September, 740 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 2: May November. Is that what the relationships called? Okay, so 741 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 2: mastery of that's just that's just called Malibu Baby. That's 742 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 2: Malibu living hoop in my corvette, single pointedness, and wait renewal. 743 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 2: I was listening. Mastery of moods is kind of also 744 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: a listening exercise for both of us. We're going to 745 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 2: listen to another now. So for this first card with 746 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 2: the men throwing the roses and also being murdered, I'm 747 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 2: going to say, this is your upcoming year. You're going 748 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 2: to have some you're gonna have praise, you're going to 749 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: have the you've got the book coming out. People are 750 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 2: going to be going crazy throwing down the rewards of 751 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 2: the book. But at the same time, you've got murder murder, 752 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 2: you're moving into a new house. You're talking about two 753 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 2: separate cults. On a podcast, you're making yourself a target. 754 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I shouldn't have given my address so 755 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 4: many times. 756 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: I know, but that's what happens on a podcast. You 757 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 2: get a little loose. And but I'm now noticing another 758 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: detail on this. It says this too shall pass. Oh, 759 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: so that maybe that goes out to Charlie, your husband 760 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 2: and your son, who now have to move on without 761 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 2: their mother. That's right, Mommy, Mommy got murdered. Mommy got 762 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 2: murdered by oh show, Oh show came back dead. It 763 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 2: was never dead. 764 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 4: That tricky guy, of course, he's he's being That was 765 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 4: a tax thing, another tax thing. 766 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 2: He read the book and there was some level of jealousy. 767 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: He wants to be a published author. That's right. 768 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 4: Second, Oh, I'll introduce you to my it or she's love. 769 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 4: You didn't have to try to murder. Get in touch, 770 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 4: dm me. We follow each other. 771 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 2: Second card, So man'splaining. I mean, I think we're I mean, 772 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 2: I don't even want to get into this could mean. 773 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 2: Why don't you tell me what it means? I don't 774 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: even want to talk about the current state of affairs. 775 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: This cancel culture. Cancel culture is a big theme of 776 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 2: this podcast. I try to cancel somebody every episode. That's right. 777 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 2: Usually it's my guest. Something we've said in the last 778 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 2: there's always somebody just like nipping at our heels. But maybe, 779 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,439 Speaker 2: but let's just say surface level, somebody's going to teach 780 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: you how to shoot a bow and arrow, but you're 781 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 2: not going to learn enough to defend yourself in your 782 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 2: own home. 783 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 4: From O Show, back to the Dead, to pass over 784 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 4: my boy and husband topless. 785 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 2: Here, topless here. Yeah, next thing, what's going to be 786 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 2: able to dress? Because mommy's not home? Of course, the 787 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,919 Speaker 2: only woman in the picture at this point is your 788 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: son's older girlfriend. But I'm his girlfriend. 789 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 3: Until you've seen me with the baby, you've seen me 790 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 3: tell him, no one will ever love you like mommy 791 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 3: loves you. 792 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like he believes it's Oh my god. 793 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 4: I mean I am literally my plan for my son. 794 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 4: If I defy oh show as murder, if I actually 795 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 4: have good my aim is true and I and I 796 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 4: both and arrow him. 797 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 2: Today, sure, which I would because he's a murderer. And 798 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 2: that's that's okay. Also, just a Rolls Roice owner to cancel. Yeah, 799 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: let's cancel Rolls Rooice owners in this account? Is the 800 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 2: thinking behind somebody who makes that purchase. I don't know. 801 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. How does it not go through your 802 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 2: mind that you're just people will hate me? Yes? I 803 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 2: think if you're an elderly. 804 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 4: Woman in Pobby, Florida, and you've. 805 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 2: Paid your dues, this is murdered only acceptable, and like 806 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 2: maybe have a dog for coat, Yes, a dog for 807 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 2: coat and a dog. 808 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 4: Also in a dog for coat because that's how much 809 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 4: gaslighting you do. Then you can drive a Rolls Royce 810 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 4: and I respect you. Yeah, that's the only other person 811 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 4: anyone else. 812 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 2: I'm not buying it. If you're below eighty years old 813 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: and you're in a Rolls Royce out of Yeah, so 814 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: that's interesting. I'm trying to think of how we got 815 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 2: to Rolls Royce. Well, no, I will. 816 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 4: I will say about marrying the baby, Yeah, yes, of course, 817 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 4: because now I'm now I'm very sad because my I 818 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,479 Speaker 4: don't want to die before I can marry my son. 819 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 2: And please let that be, Please let that be the 820 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 2: que or whatever that is. Please let mommy live long 821 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 2: enough to marry her baby boy. I've told you that 822 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 2: I am at my son's wedding. 823 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 4: Yes, my son, whose name I won't say because I'm 824 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 4: fiercely protective of only one thing. 825 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 2: Let's just call him. 826 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 4: What do we call him? Let's call him Sparkle Little, 827 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 4: So it's Sparkles's wedding. I will go up to the 828 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 4: man or woman that he is marrying, and i will 829 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 4: whisper into their ear. 830 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm wearing his hair in a locket around my. 831 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 4: Neck, and then I'm gonna watch that person walk down 832 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 4: the aisle toward my son and have the time. 833 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 2: Of my life. Just she is complete? He or she 834 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: yes here or she yes is completely. Let's be honest. 835 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 2: It's my child. He absolutely, he is scared of He 836 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 2: scared of mommy in law, a monster in law. At 837 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 2: that point, they're going to be remaking the movie as well. 838 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 2: I'll do it. Yeah, of course, I'll do right it, 839 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 2: write it now, put it decided. Then it will be 840 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 2: a period. 841 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,959 Speaker 3: That's right, put it decide. It'll be a quaint catch fire, yes, 842 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 3: like the early twenty twenty. 843 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 4: Yes, they're going to be like, oh we wore, we 844 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 4: wore Coulottes o we love people. 845 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a direct dig at me. I wear a 846 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 2: lot of jumps Well, I want to wear a jumpsuit, 847 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: but I just feel like I keep I keep thinking, 848 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 2: am I too late for a jumpsuit? Then I'll go 849 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 2: to a party and see someone in a jumpsuit. I think, oh, 850 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 2: I'm maybe now, But then I wait up wearing the 851 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 2: same jumpsuit. 852 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 4: We've already talked about, right jumpsuits. At this point, we 853 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 4: are We're circling the drain here. What this podcast is 854 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 4: telling us is that we need to be embraced that 855 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 4: we are autumns. 856 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 2: We are absolutely autumns. 857 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 4: We need to wear a maroon colored jumpsuit and join 858 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 4: the cult that'll let us do that. 859 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: Yes, just give us the freedom. Yeah. Well, I think 860 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 2: we're at a point in the podcast where we could 861 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 2: play a game. I've got a game called Gift or 862 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 2: a Curse, And basically the rules are, I'm going to 863 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: name three things, okay, and you're going to tell me 864 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 2: if they're if you consider them a gift or a curse, 865 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 2: and then you're gonna tell me why you're going to 866 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 2: defend that, and then I'm going to tell if you're wrong, 867 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 2: because I'm right. So, but first I'm gonna need a 868 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 2: number between two and ten. Seven. Okay, I have to 869 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 2: go into my calculator. I understand ancient computer. Huh let 870 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 2: me seven. Okay, Bridger is moving the beads of an abacus. Okay, 871 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 2: we're almost there. Oh, this is this is a good 872 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 2: I think that we've got some good ones here. Okay, 873 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: so number one? Best? Do you think gift her a curse? 874 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,919 Speaker 2: Scented candles? Curse? Curse? Why? 875 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 4: That's the fastest answer I can give. Scented candles. Listen, 876 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 4: I'm not a I'm not a Yankee candle gal. Sure, 877 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 4: I am very sensitive to smells. 878 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 2: Okay, sure, sure. 879 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 4: And if I don't pick out the scent. If someone 880 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 4: else is telling me what my home, my Mickey Mouse 881 00:48:54,760 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 4: home should smell like, then that my friend is a curse. 882 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 2: That's an invasion. That's an invasion that I would I 883 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 2: would say that's an assault. No. But okay, so you're saying, 884 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 2: if somebody gives you a scented candle, that's an absolutely yeah. 885 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 2: I agree on that level. But oh the concept of 886 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 2: oh I love a center. 887 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 4: Because I was gonna say, oh, you know that I 888 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 4: have scented candles in my house. 889 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 2: I feel like everyone does. What sort of scented candles? 890 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 2: I feel like you've got kind of some. I feel 891 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 2: like kind of earthy smelling. 892 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 4: Candle, sort of like an androgynous Yeah, yeah, I have 893 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 4: sort of like a very like bespoke bullshit handle. You 894 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 4: walk in and you're like, oh, this person saw what 895 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 4: was on sale at APC. 896 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 2: You know, do you have a favorite scent? I was 897 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 2: given immediately back on what you said, You're alive. 898 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 4: I'm a psychopathic. Can we admit to anythinggie? Is that 899 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 4: a little stuffy? 900 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: No? 901 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 4: I think that's right. I think the only consistent thing 902 00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 4: about me is on. 903 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 2: You read my pillow. I think the tarot worked. 904 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 4: I'm finally realizing who I am, which is a pathological 905 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 4: fool you. 906 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 2: I will say this every few years, and then you'll 907 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 2: realize who you are. 908 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 3: The strongest man. I know I am the strongest man. 909 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 3: I know I'm a strong man in a lot of lives. 910 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: That's right, That's right, A lot of love. 911 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 4: I think A scented candle I like this one from 912 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 4: the former Stephen Allen outlet on. 913 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 2: Hillhurst, which closed because I was the only person who 914 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 2: ever went yeah, I was going to say, I'm not 915 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 2: familiar the discount store of nice clothes? 916 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 6: Now? 917 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 2: Is this the place that was taken over recently by 918 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,760 Speaker 2: an expensive candy which will be closed? 919 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 4: I'll never go You'll never go there. I'll go there 920 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 4: as soon as my child is of age. Every day, 921 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 4: get him lollipop so that he marries mommy. The Yeah, no, 922 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 4: I I like one from there. I don't remember what 923 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 4: it's called, Mary Lewis Louis. It has like little Sarah 924 00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 4: font in a big white Sure. 925 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 2: It was kind of like a mysterious nice smell. Yeah, 926 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 2: it's like it's it's like a eucalyptusy woodsy tobacco e okay, 927 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 2: something that it's like a man lives here too, tobacco. 928 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 2: It's an interesting We're totally okay with it. But when 929 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 2: my Downsenter's neighbors are smoking, I'm called the police, Absolutely, 930 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 2: the police. I hate these Yeah, I need the tobaccos constantly. 931 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 2: What in the house. Yes, I mean we're not going 932 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: to get into this now, but that's I'm at war 933 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 2: with these two French Canadians. Of course they're French Canadians. 934 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 2: Don't you know that. 935 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 4: I don't care if we lose that whole audience of 936 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 4: like TOOI they don't speak They speak French, but they 937 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 4: speak it with the shittiest accent. 938 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 2: Okay, now back off. There may we have one listener 939 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,959 Speaker 2: in Japan, that's right, possibly somebody in Montreal. I would 940 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 2: love to live in Montreal, smoking and listening to this 941 00:51:53,440 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: in the bank. Yeah, leave me alone. Okay, So okay, 942 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 2: so I actually agree. Candles are scented candles for the 943 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 2: most part, when you're in control of the situation. Or 944 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 2: a gift, yeah, you know, you can get your house 945 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 2: smelling nice. Yeah, let's move on to the next thing. Okay, 946 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 2: gift or a curse? Carpeted bathrooms? I mean, what what worse? Pestilence? 947 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 2: What that is? A plague? That's not a curse? A 948 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 2: carpeted bathroom. You're just saying, I would like to be 949 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 2: stepping on infinite P. I would like to be stepping 950 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 2: on P, and then track that it's a litter box. 951 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 2: A carpeted bathroom is a human litter box, and you're 952 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 2: tracking it all over your house. What have you ever 953 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 2: been in a carpeted I've never been. You've never been 954 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 2: in a carpeted bathroom. 955 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,479 Speaker 4: It is, Oh, you don't go to like Sean Wayne 956 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 4: Gacy's house, carpeted bathroom. 957 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 2: There are two things that are truly architectural insanity, which 958 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,879 Speaker 2: are a carpeted bathroom and a light switch outside of 959 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 2: a room, Oh, controls the light. That's that's if you're 960 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 2: in a carpeted bathroom and then you realize there's no lights, 961 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,280 Speaker 2: which you're Okay, there's gonna be blood all over this carpet. 962 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 2: I'm going to slip over the state. I mean, I've 963 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 2: been in maybe more carpeted bathrooms than i'd like to. 964 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 2: Is this a Utah thing? I might say a Utah thing? 965 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 2: I mean because I'm you know, I'm from Utah. I 966 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 2: don't recall. 967 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 4: Is it that it's cold, and because I understand people 968 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 4: not wanting to have their feet on cold bathroom. 969 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 2: On some slippers, put on some sucks. Have a bath mat. 970 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 2: Here's what I do. I have a bath mat. 971 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 4: We have one bathroom in our house. I have a 972 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 4: bath mat in front of the sink and a bath 973 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 4: mat in front of the shower. 974 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 2: That's all you need. But not in front of the toilet. 975 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 2: You're getting a mildew all over that carpet. There's no 976 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 2: way that's ever getting clean, not just the pea, the water, 977 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 2: a carpeted bathroom. 978 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,919 Speaker 4: You did have a friend growing up whose parents had 979 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 4: a plush toilet seat. 980 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 2: Oh, that sort of thing is discussed, so discussing. But 981 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 2: at the time I thought, this is the lap of 982 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 2: literal lap of lovetury. At the time, I like, I 983 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 2: couldn't wait to go over. 984 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 4: And I will not say her name, she should be disgraced, 985 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 4: But I couldn't wait to go over to her house. 986 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 4: I would drink a ton of water that I actually 987 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 4: I drinking pre son, and I would just sit there 988 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 4: and wait to pee and'd be so happy. 989 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 2: You couldn't go back to hard porcelain. I couldn't. I 990 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,479 Speaker 2: could not that sort of thing. I mean, I don't. 991 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 2: I don't even I can't even begin to figure out 992 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 2: why you would want that on a toilet. See that 993 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 2: seems they make it. They make a it's like a 994 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 2: terry cloth toilet seed. It does harry cloth. It's like 995 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 2: a fluffy this There is no way that's ever been 996 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 2: It was clean when it was installed, and then immediately 997 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 2: playground for bacteria is playground that's the company name, Devil's Playground. 998 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:07,280 Speaker 2: Let's sit down, just sit on Hell. That is welcome 999 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,280 Speaker 2: to Hell. Okay, you know, I think I think you're 1000 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 2: actually two for two. I agree with you there. I 1001 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 2: think that a carpeted bathroom is a curse and also 1002 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 2: just like a sign of mania, you are a lunatic 1003 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 2: person or something's going on and have your voting rights 1004 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,879 Speaker 2: taken away. Absolutely the best final item on the list, 1005 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 2: Quaker Oatmeal Squares. The Cereal Quaker Oatmeal Squares comes in. 1006 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 2: I think it's like a blue box. You've of course 1007 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,760 Speaker 2: got the Quaker oat man. Are you familiar. 1008 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 4: I've I love the idea of this. I've never had 1009 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 4: the cereal. You're not you're You're not talking oatmeal. 1010 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 2: You're talking This is ri cereal dried oatmeal like a 1011 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 2: little oatmeal pillow. 1012 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 4: Are they like a Quaker oats chewy bar? But because 1013 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 4: I like that they have a hint of brown sugar, 1014 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 4: I believe. I don't know if I I have to 1015 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 4: then you still because I've never had this or not, 1016 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 4: you have to decide going deep, you know what I 1017 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 4: I Here's what I think. I am a tough customer 1018 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 4: when it comes to Cereal. 1019 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 2: Sure, what are you eating? I'm eating Moosely. Okay, I've 1020 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 2: never had Moosely. 1021 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 4: I love Moosely. I feel like, here's why I probably 1022 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 4: don't like Mooseley. But it's something my mom ate growing up, 1023 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 4: and so when I could buy my own groceries, I 1024 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 4: bought Moosey, and then you know, I was a lady. 1025 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 4: I think I only eat it because it makes me 1026 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 4: feel grown up. Sure and vaguely European. 1027 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 2: Oh of course. Yeah, that's the one cereal that's going 1028 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 2: to make you feel like you're on the content. 1029 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 4: That's right, And I've gotten there. I don't think this 1030 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 4: needs to be said, but I've gone there via Kiwi 1031 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 4: two beautiful. But the Quaker oatmeal square cereal, I don't. 1032 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 4: I honestly, I think if it were that, I believe 1033 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 4: there's no better snack than that. This really is going 1034 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 4: to sound branded. Okay, and by the way, as you 1035 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 4: neither believe that. But if you were to give me 1036 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 4: the option between like a fancy Whole Foods granola bar 1037 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 4: or just the Quaker the chewy bar chocolate chips, I'm 1038 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 4: going chocolate chips. 1039 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 2: Every time. 1040 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 5: It's a space age snack, it's gooey. It's like something 1041 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 5: it's so sweet. Yes, but it's healthy. It makes me 1042 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 5: happy to picture yourself stranded on the moon like, oh dessert, Yes, glass. 1043 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 4: Ground controlled the major tom I'm eating a snack. 1044 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 2: Got a sweet too? Yes? Do we have to pay 1045 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 2: for that? In the state of David Bowie sues this, Okay, Well, 1046 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 2: so I don't. I think I'm no. I think I'm no. 1047 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 2: You're saying it's a curse. I'm saying I don't. I 1048 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 2: don't want. I don't want that cereal. I want. I've 1049 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 2: asked you, allow you to. I have to get a 1050 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 2: gift or a curse. You're too for two right now, 1051 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 2: right now, you have a third thing. I know you 1052 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: don't want to kill your streak, but I need an 1053 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 2: answer from you. It's a gift, Bridger, It's a gift 1054 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 2: because here's why. I bet it's sweet. That's You're absolutely right, 1055 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 2: that's a gift. I'm not a I don't eat cold 1056 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 2: cereal anymore. I mean the last time I really ate 1057 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 2: cold cereal was probably high school. I want to say, 1058 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 2: but anytime I come across a qua Quaker oatmeal square, 1059 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 2: I think, why are we all eating this? Right? It's 1060 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 2: an incredible not too sweet, a hint of sweetness, the 1061 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 2: perfect crunch. I like, I mean, obviously, right now, I should. 1062 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 2: I should just always have Quaker oatmeal. People would love 1063 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 2: to hear the sound of a mouth crunching oatmeal. Okay, well, 1064 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 2: good job. I don't know. I feel like you did 1065 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 2: a decent job there, and you really a shot shot 1066 00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 2: in the dark. 1067 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 4: I would say that I waffled so much with the 1068 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 4: first question that I can't be I will that was, 1069 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 4: but sometimes you have to, right, So I kicked. 1070 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 2: Into my own goal, so to speak. Yeah, okay, so 1071 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 2: we're we have one final thing to do here. This 1072 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 2: part of the podcast is called I Said No Questions. 1073 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 2: This is for listeners who need some help. People every 1074 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 2: day are in need of help trying to figure out 1075 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 2: gifts for loved ones, friends, enemies, coworkers, colleagues. Did I 1076 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 2: already say colleagues, now, acquaintances, whatever. There's always a new 1077 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 2: opportunity to give somebody a gift. So people are writing 1078 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 2: in and they're getting advice from me and my guests. 1079 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 2: We're going to try to give a couple of people 1080 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 2: some advice. I'm going to read a question from somebody 1081 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 2: and then we'll try to figure it out. God, I 1082 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 2: love the people. We both love the people. And the 1083 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 2: kind of help I know, I know, I know. We 1084 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 2: wake up and we go out. Can I help? 1085 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1086 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 2: What can I do in the world that will just 1087 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 2: bring a little light? I love that we do that. Okay, 1088 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 2: so first up, this first question, says Bridger. And then 1089 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 2: of course they didn't. They don't mention you. I'm sorry, Well, 1090 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 2: I like to I don't like the credit. Of course, 1091 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 2: I need to find a decent gift for my wife Jessica. 1092 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,479 Speaker 2: She wants ear rings, but I buy her jewelry every year. 1093 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 2: She's a super mom and does a great job of 1094 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 2: raising our two kids, both under three, and I want 1095 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 2: her to know how much I appreciate her. How can 1096 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 2: I show her? How can I get her a gift? 1097 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 2: Greg in Berlin, Oh, German? Somebody living in Germany. Interesting, Okay, 1098 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 2: has two small children. I as not a parent, you 1099 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 2: as a parent and a mother. I feel like you're 1100 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 2: probably going to have some decent level of insight into 1101 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 2: this you need under Germany, I have, I have not, 1102 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 2: and I will not. Okay, of course, I you know, 1103 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 2: don't go We'll leave that off we'll come back. It's great. 1104 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 4: Unless I meet anyone over eighty five and I'll just 1105 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 4: automatically kill them. But uh, no, big deal whatever, bygones. Anyway, 1106 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 4: the I'm Jewish? Uh if you couldn't tell, I don't 1107 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 4: know what that means. Okay, I honestly, first of all, 1108 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to give a comedy answer to this. 1109 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 4: Jessica has two kids under three. 1110 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Respect to Jessica, I'm barely able to dress myself every day. 1111 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 4: Yes, I I will say, I dress my child much 1112 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 4: better than I dressed. 1113 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 2: The outfits of Ben. It's hit after him. 1114 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I'm trying to get him, you know, 1115 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 4: some kind of. 1116 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 3: Husband for you you don't want to be. No, no, no, 1117 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 3: no no. He's got to look what mommy's are. And 1118 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 3: so for Jessica two kids under three, Greg, Greg. 1119 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 4: Greg, what she wants and I will speak for her, 1120 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 4: is a let's let's let's let's give it a week 1121 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 4: of making dinner every night. 1122 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 2: Oh this sounds incredible. Of doing the goddamn dishes, sure 1123 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 2: of doing the laundry. Okay, if you do those three 1124 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 2: things for a week, if you make Jessica dinner every night, 1125 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 2: it's for her birthday holidays. 1126 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 4: He doesn't say, okay, So let's go at her birthday 1127 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 4: week a term bridger and high love for both huge 1128 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 4: birthday week. 1129 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 2: Birthday week, birthday month, more birthday week freaks for birthday. 1130 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 2: Every person I come in contact it with into my 1131 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 2: birthday world, just expect that attention. That's right, and so 1132 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 2: for her birthday week, do that. 1133 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 4: I would say the best gift that you can give 1134 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 4: a mother to young children is the gift of. 1135 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 2: Ease, and so doing as much time off, make her 1136 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 2: a decade in dinners every night, or if it's just 1137 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 2: for a one time thing, if it's like a holiday 1138 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 2: the night, then then that's what you pick. 1139 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 4: A great elaborate, let's call it an Odelangi style meal, 1140 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 4: and you have to go to a specialty market to 1141 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 4: get that sumac. 1142 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 2: Yes, there's going to be well made hummus. It's going 1143 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 2: to be a gorgeous chickpie hummus. Make her a decadent meal, 1144 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 2: and I guarantee like that that she will cry, and 1145 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 2: let's be honest, she will. She will get pregnant again 1146 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 2: that night. She'll have to do this all over anymore. 1147 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 4: Right, she's breastfeeding. Congratulations. The license. 1148 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 2: That's how you say cong Okay, I think that's a 1149 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 2: decent Make her a meal, and then, also, I don't 1150 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 2: know a thing. Let's get her a new like a 1151 01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 2: new pair of shoes, shoes, and get her the Zoom 1152 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 2: you for her a Galaxy time, get her a sidewinder, 1153 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 2: get her game gear. That's honestly what. 1154 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 5: I would want. Why don't I have. 1155 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 4: A game boy or game gear from all of these 1156 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 4: late night breastfeeding. 1157 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 2: Yes, just a little something that while the baby is there, Jessica, 1158 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 2: turn it on. I will say this to hell with 1159 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 2: Jessica and her and her rug rats. Send it best on. 1160 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 2: Nintendo Switch. Get me a switch, Charlie, get no, I don't. 1161 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 2: I don't know how to use a switch. I would 1162 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 2: learn immediate. 1163 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you for having that faith. I guarantee I wouldn't. 1164 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 4: I guarantee it would be Charlie's worst nightmare. I I 1165 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 4: think I turned mamolume off. 1166 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So basically, for Jessica, it's either a week off 1167 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 2: or a Nintendo Nintendo either or maybe both, maybe both. 1168 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 2: While she's doing all the housework, oh, she's gaming. Meanwhile, 1169 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 2: she's become a hardcore games Jessica's capsule women. She has 1170 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 2: been tearing down women online. She's just going after her journalists. Yeah, 1171 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 2: she's become a racist. She's a racist. She's been radicalized. 1172 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 4: She's been radicalized through the gaming reddit vertical and she 1173 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 4: needs to be canceled. 1174 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 2: And she's been enjoying these lovely going on Chicken milanaise. Okay, 1175 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 2: all right, Greg, good luck, good luck. Okay, So this 1176 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 2: next one, I mean, the question is pretty long, so 1177 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna sum it up. This guy has written 1178 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 2: in it's his dad's sixty fifth birthday coming up in August. 1179 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 2: Apparently his dad is a terrible gift receiver. Within seconds 1180 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 2: of opening any gift, he immediately says there's something wrong 1181 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 2: with it. He says that he's looking for a mid 1182 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 2: priced gift that his dad won't immediately recognize has problems. 1183 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 2: Maybe later he'll find a problem with it, but by 1184 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 2: then this guy will be gone. This his best Joe 1185 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 2: in Malibu. We've been talking about Malibus. Joe and his 1186 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 2: age inappropriate. Somebody at this in this family is not 1187 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 2: half their age. That's right. Joe's got an earring. Yes 1188 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 2: here you know. I was on Joe's side, but now Malibu. 1189 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm back and forth. Let's assume Joe's in kind of 1190 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 2: a serf shat, Okay, I'll appreciate that. Maybe yeah, Okay, 1191 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 2: he's a palatial I don't know the Rolls Royce or 1192 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 2: a mid price gift soot person. 1193 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 4: Okay, good, he's just a cool stoner who survived the fire. 1194 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 2: Maybe Daddy though, Okay, here's the thing, Uh, that is 1195 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 2: not a father that you are ever going to please, Joe, Joe, 1196 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 2: Daddy is the problem. Your gifts aren't the proper the 1197 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:55,160 Speaker 2: gifts you've been trying every year after Let's assume forty years. 1198 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 4: Forty years and your nineteen year old girlfriend and you 1199 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 4: have to go over to your father's house watch him 1200 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 4: be disappointed year after year. 1201 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 2: Why is he criticized? I don't know that person needs 1202 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 2: to learn to just accept a gift. No, but here's 1203 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,439 Speaker 2: what I say. This person, this father, needs to learn 1204 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 2: what it's like to have no gift. Here's the gift 1205 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 2: that Joe gives. He doesn't show up on the birthday. 1206 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 2: He doesn't show up on the goddamn birthday. Daddy's gift 1207 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 2: is silence and lowliness. Slowly so I can learn in 1208 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 2: the solitude. That's how to accept a gift, especially baby's gift. 1209 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 2: Baby's gift. Your son has been working, working, working, and 1210 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 2: he just wants you to smile and say thanks son, 1211 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 2: your son. I use this polishing Harrison Ford's airplane. 1212 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 4: Yes, make him tips and he this daddy doesn't get 1213 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 4: babies in praced this year. 1214 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 2: No. Can you imagine a father criticizing a gift. I 1215 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't hear of it. Well, look, I mean, Joe, I'm 1216 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 2: going to speak personally here as somebody who I gave 1217 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 2: my dad gifts four years. Every single gift was returned. No, 1218 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. Wait, I think I knew this, but 1219 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm listening to this. That's fine, we love him, but 1220 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 2: this is something that eventually I've stopped giving him gifts, 1221 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 2: right because they would get returned. That's what you have 1222 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 2: to do. You're not a point. Get your father an 1223 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 2: errand yes, so you know, and now we're at peace 1224 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 2: with each other. Good. He doesn't need the gift. Maybe 1225 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 2: I'll get him a gift certificate to a restaurant, but 1226 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 2: you know, it's again for mommy, and it's also something 1227 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,839 Speaker 2: that's just going to get returned. So you just figure 1228 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,760 Speaker 2: that out and then because he bars it up. Turn. Yeah, 1229 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:40,719 Speaker 2: there's a lot your dad's bark that sounds like Dad 1230 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,680 Speaker 2: doesn't get us sixty fifth, maybe seventieth birthday, he'll be 1231 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,679 Speaker 2: ready to accept a gift. I doubt it because they'll 1232 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 2: be estranged by then. 1233 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 4: Because it sounds like this Dad will brow a fit 1234 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 4: if Joe doesn't show up on our advice. 1235 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 2: So we're kind of putting a wedge between father and 1236 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 2: son here, and that's fine. That's what this podcast is 1237 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 2: for us to just get families to fall apart, apart, 1238 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 2: and then you find yourself once you've kind of removed 1239 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 2: yourself from the family. Once you get to poon, you 1240 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 2: join the cult. Yeah, of course, where everyone who isn't 1241 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,040 Speaker 2: part of the cult or join scientology and declare them suppressive. Yes, 1242 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 2: any of these groups allows you a new family that's 1243 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 2: not going to expect any level of gift. All they 1244 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 2: want you is to a lot of money as well. 1245 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 2: Yeah the money. Of course, you're just going to be 1246 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 2: financially yes, and we'll pick up some probably bad habits 1247 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 2: and be mistreated, but in a different ways. Actually, of course, 1248 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 2: there's something to be said about get a cult. You know, 1249 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 2: you know, you know what it's. You know what it is. 1250 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 2: You know at least you know what it is. You 1251 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 2: know there's a Rolls Royce involved Rolls Royce. Someone's going 1252 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,719 Speaker 2: to be fleeing the country in a plane at some point. 1253 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 2: And they say, all right, everyone on the plane you 1254 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,799 Speaker 2: live and wherever now? Yes? 1255 01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 4: And you say, you know what, I know where my 1256 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,160 Speaker 4: next meals coming from. 1257 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 2: It's going to be a full of gruel or Quaker 1258 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 2: Omealed Squares's. We've got some help, please, Quaker. I'm reaching 1259 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 2: out to you. I'm begging you for that. I mean 1260 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:20,639 Speaker 2: sponsor personally. I think it's I think that about dozes 1261 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 2: there anything you'd like to I'd like to give you 1262 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 2: some opportunity to promote. You've got the book. I want 1263 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 2: people to know. Nobody will tell you this but me 1264 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 2: is the title of this book. It's beautiful. It's heart wrenching. 1265 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 2: It's also extremely funny. Go look at that. You can 1266 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 2: read best in the New Yorker. You can read her 1267 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 2: on Twitter. She's all over the place, She's everywhere and nowhere. 1268 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 2: I'm just breastfeeding my baby Sparkle. You can find her 1269 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 2: at her address. It's times. Do please show up we 1270 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 2: do not have a ring. Thank you, Richard, this is 1271 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 2: it's just nice to chat, of course, and thank you 1272 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 2: for the terror I'm going to learn. I'm please go 1273 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,799 Speaker 2: home and read up on this. And if I vanish 1274 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 2: under mysterious circumstances, don't come looking for me. I never will. 1275 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I hope everyone's having a wonderful time 1276 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 2: and we'll say goodbye now. I said no gifts isn't 1277 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,879 Speaker 2: exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris. 1278 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,080 Speaker 2: The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann. You 1279 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,760 Speaker 2: can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter. At I 1280 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 2: said no gifts, And if you have a question or 1281 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,240 Speaker 2: need help getting a gift for someone in your life, 1282 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 2: email me at I said no gifts at gmail dot com. 1283 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,320 Speaker 2: Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast, Stitcher or wherever you 1284 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 2: found me, and why not leave a review while you're 1285 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 2: at it? 1286 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 1: Hello? 1287 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,520 Speaker 2: And why did you hear. 1288 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: Gon? 1289 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 2: A man? 1290 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? 1291 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 2: But you're a. 1292 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:57,040 Speaker 1: Guess to me. You gotta come to me empty And 1293 01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:04,599 Speaker 1: I said, no guests, yours presence enough. I already had 1294 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 1: too much stuff, So how did you dare to surbey 1295 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:09,760 Speaker 1: me