Speaker 1: Do you guys remember the thumb ring I used to wear.
Speaker 1: I had a Yin yang thumb ring.
Speaker 2: Familiar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wore it't for like years, and then I
Speaker 1: was a little superstitious about it, even though I wasn't
Speaker 1: like a superstitious type of person. And then I guess
Speaker 1: I just decided I no longer cared about it at
Speaker 1: all and ripped it off and have never thought about
Speaker 1: it again. I have no idea what happened to her,
Speaker 1: and that's it.
Speaker 3: And then we had this spin.
Speaker 4: I had spinny rings. Anybody else like you'd fidget with them?
Speaker 4: That was like the original fidget spinner.
Speaker 2: Have a little sent.
Speaker 5: That makes sense because I would totally do that because
Speaker 5: I always if I had a ring, I'd taken it.
Speaker 2: I had a big I was. I was big into
Speaker 2: mood rings. I had a ring for years. While what
Speaker 2: do you say about me? I was just mopey back then.
Speaker 3: I guess it wasn't just that back then.
Speaker 4: So yesterday, you know, as everybody knows, we're we've got
Speaker 4: some live shows coming up and some stuff to do.
Speaker 4: So we have somebody that comes and helps us. Well,
Speaker 4: I have somebody that comes and helps me dress myself.
Speaker 4: That we met from Danielle and we were all we
Speaker 4: also and we're seeing what they look like. And she
Speaker 4: held up a picture of what's Rider's wearing and she
Speaker 4: looked at me and she.
Speaker 3: Said, why doesn't he smile?
Speaker 6: And it's a picture of Rider dress just really nicely
Speaker 6: with this face.
Speaker 3: On, Like, I can't believe I have to wear clothes.
Speaker 2: I don't smile for pictures? Is that crazy?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Uh, do you not like I smile life?
Speaker 2: Don't I just smiling?
Speaker 7: You laugh?
Speaker 3: You're easy to laugh.
Speaker 5: And but but I think, yeah, I think at some
Speaker 5: point I learned to just not make any expression. But yeah,
Speaker 5: and our and our promotions for Punmets World, they look
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna kill somebody.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I have jump off.
Speaker 2: Look, man, I guess there's all those teen magazine sheets.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It got me into the idea that like, if I
Speaker 2: smiled too much, I just looked young.
Speaker 3: So I was like, no, well that must.
Speaker 4: Work, because when I noticed pictures myself now, and I've
Speaker 4: been smiling and laughing my whole life, and I smile
Speaker 4: and the whole top half of my face just wrinkles up.
Speaker 3: Like alrighty, like hi, it's oh yeah, man, I earned those.
Speaker 3: I earn those lines. I earned those.
Speaker 8: Oh boyl boy rider, Why did you do your background
Speaker 8: just like Danielle?
Speaker 3: Oh you decided I.
Speaker 5: Snuck into Danielle's house took a photo grab. No, my,
Speaker 5: just every time we should do that.
Speaker 6: No, aud I am at.
Speaker 2: At Danielle official and uh Jensen carp husband, producer of
Speaker 2: this podcast, producer husband of this podcast. I'm at their
Speaker 2: house right now because we were going to do a
Speaker 2: shoot later today. I get the I get the special chair,
Speaker 2: I get the host chair. Yeah, I'm the host.
Speaker 1: Put spot so that he didn't have to sit in
Speaker 1: some janky corner of the house.
Speaker 2: I would totally take a corner.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: You look great though. To hold up today's paper, Danielle,
Speaker 4: so we know you're safe.
Speaker 2: Here it is.
Speaker 6: My notes for today's show. I promise I'm fine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, what an exciting day we have. Welcome to pod
Speaker 1: meets World. I'm Daniel Fischl, I'm right or strong, and
Speaker 1: I'm Wilfredell. So today's guest is someone who, during our
Speaker 1: podcast rewatch of season two just absolutely blew us away.
Speaker 1: I mean, looking back, we are still children flailing as actors.
Speaker 1: And then this seasoned veteran came in and showed us
Speaker 1: how it's really done, so much so we wondered why
Speaker 1: she didn't come back beyond one episode or even get
Speaker 1: her own spinoff. She is a legit iconic Scream queen
Speaker 1: and an inductee into the Fangoria Hall of Fame, appearing
Speaker 1: in What So's So Cool?
Speaker 2: I subscribe to Fangoria when I was a kid?
Speaker 3: So really cool?
Speaker 6: Yeah it's yeah, it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 4: She is.
Speaker 1: She has appeared in four installments in the Halloween franchise,
Speaker 1: including Halloween four and five. In the late eighties as
Speaker 1: a kid, She's starred in the movies like Marked for Death,
Speaker 1: Don't Tell Mom, The Babysitter's Dead, The Last Boy, Scout,
Speaker 1: Free Willie, and Daylight, alongside another Boy Meets World alumni
Speaker 1: Trina McGee. She was also the voice of Debbie Thornberry
Speaker 1: in the long running Wild Thornberry's and Here are just
Speaker 1: some of her endless TV credits. One Life to Live
Speaker 1: at Age Seven, Spencer for Hire, Eerie Indiana, a recurring
Speaker 1: role on Roseanne, Charmed, The West Wing, and psych and
Speaker 1: she was even recently seen in Quentin Tarantino's Once Upon
Speaker 1: a Time in Hollywood. But today we will focus on
Speaker 1: one twenty two minute sitcom episode called Sister Teresa in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, where she brilliantly played Harley's badass sister TK.
Speaker 1: Let's please welcome Danielle Harris.
Speaker 3: Hey, y hi, hi, we'd like to yell people into
Speaker 3: our podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, is that somebody behind you? What is that?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's one of the monsters from one of the movies,
Speaker 7: but he's in different outfits. He's like Victor Crowley from Hatchet,
Speaker 7: but he's wearing the Jason mask and she's holding them
Speaker 7: Michael Meyer's head, you know whatever.
Speaker 6: It's so cool.
Speaker 2: I love it. Are you?
Speaker 6: Are you afraid of scary movies?
Speaker 7: No, I'm just I can't watch them without picking them apart,
Speaker 7: you know, and like see everything like oh they did
Speaker 7: that really well or oh she did that really poorly,
Speaker 7: or you know, like right, make it just like Knoppy bias.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: You just directed your first Was it your first feature?
Speaker 7: I did, but it was that was like two that
Speaker 7: that was like about twelve years ago. I'm still working
Speaker 7: on and I know you were actually going to do something,
Speaker 7: and then I think it didn't. You did do it. Okay,
Speaker 7: there was something else I thought came through that you
Speaker 7: might have been directing that I was trying to like
Speaker 7: swoop in, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: What to end up happening. Daniel up against each other.
Speaker 6: No, no, I wanted.
Speaker 7: I wanted to be in your movie you were directing.
Speaker 6: How exciting, I wonder. Yeah, so probably wasn't classmates. Was
Speaker 6: it classmates? Oh?
Speaker 7: No, it was something else. But I think maybe your
Speaker 7: mom told me about something. And then I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 7: your mom has done my hair before.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, Oh that's right.
Speaker 1: She did tell me that my mom is a makeup
Speaker 1: artist and a hairdresser.
Speaker 6: And that's right. She told me that she You guys
Speaker 6: work together.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 7: What a small ess.
Speaker 3: It's just the smallest world every time.
Speaker 6: Come on, it's so funny.
Speaker 7: Wow. Okay, so we're all intertwined, I know.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure you kind of understand that we are
Speaker 1: basically watching Boy Meets World for what feels like the
Speaker 1: first time, because even if we saw it when it
Speaker 1: was originally on in the nineties, we have barely seen
Speaker 1: it since, and so one of the one of the
Speaker 1: like most just awe inspiring moments for us rewatching was
Speaker 1: your episode of Boy Meets World, Sister Teresa, you are
Speaker 1: so incredible, okay, so incredible, Like it really just put
Speaker 1: us all to shame.
Speaker 2: We were like, you come on the show and the
Speaker 2: show becomes yours.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh this is its own, this is its own show.
Speaker 7: You know what's crazy is that I've only I've after
Speaker 7: I did that episode. I never did another sitcom, another
Speaker 7: live audience show until I came back on The Conners
Speaker 7: last year. It had been thirty years since.
Speaker 2: Was that my choice? Did you actually say like that?
Speaker 7: No? No, but I just couldn't get cast in anything.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I just I just started doing more
Speaker 7: dramatic stuff. But I much prefer Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I couldn't do what you guys did that learning all
Speaker 7: that after that many years and a date like, forget
Speaker 7: about it. There's no way my brain can't retain, at
Speaker 7: my age anymore that that much dialogue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a lot of dialogue. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I could do it now either. I know when
Speaker 1: we were kids it was so easy, but I'm not
Speaker 1: even sure. I'm not sure it was the girl you
Speaker 1: just did it like five year years ago Okay, you're right,
Speaker 1: but you didn't have kids yet.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's the difference you get. Just man,
Speaker 2: it's dad brain too, right too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a whole part of your brain is
Speaker 5: just always occupied, just always worried, always occupied.
Speaker 3: So yeah, adding it to the list.
Speaker 1: Well, can you tell us how that episode came about
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 6: Do you remember your audition? Like, tell us everything about that.
Speaker 7: So the show was such a big deal in our
Speaker 7: you know at that time when it was second season
Speaker 7: and I had actually auditioned that particular episode. Was my
Speaker 7: thirteenth time going to producers for your show. Oh my god,
Speaker 7: I know I would.
Speaker 5: I thought maybe you just got offered the part because
Speaker 5: you were so well established, because I mean, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I totally assume that they like basically wrote the part
Speaker 5: for you.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, thirteenth thirteenth time for just that role.
Speaker 7: Or no show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you had auditioned to be every girl on our
Speaker 5: show up until that point.
Speaker 7: Oh, and I kept feeling like at some point, like
Speaker 7: I kept seeing in the waiting room, like the girls
Speaker 7: the same twelve girls started and then like one would
Speaker 7: disappear because she would get that week and then the
Speaker 7: next episode that girl would disappear from the producer session.
Speaker 2: It was the same of us young actress that was it.
Speaker 7: So I finally I was like, oh, maybe there's a
Speaker 7: shot now, and then that one came up and it
Speaker 7: was so apparent once I once I got those sides
Speaker 7: that I was like, Oh, I can get this one.
Speaker 6: This is like, you know, this is.
Speaker 7: This is kind of me more or less than the
Speaker 7: other characters I'd auditioned four So but yeah, thirteenth time.
Speaker 7: Thirteenth time was a charm and I had known so
Speaker 7: I had known David Traynor, producer director, because he directed
Speaker 7: a pilot that I did about two years before that
Speaker 7: with Ryan O'Neill, so I kind of knew him. So
Speaker 7: when he was in the room this time, I was like, oh, yay,
Speaker 7: he's gonna like be nice to me and give me notes.
Speaker 1: A familiar face who knows that what I'm capable of.
Speaker 1: And then I directed and all those things.
Speaker 7: Yes that wants to take a minute to sort of
Speaker 7: work with me. And then you know, rewatching the episode,
Speaker 7: which I did last night, I'm so Harley Kiner's sister,
Speaker 7: like right, you know, like I was actually a little
Speaker 7: surprised after like years later, I was, you know, of
Speaker 7: course watched it for many years after our episode, and
Speaker 7: and I thought, God, I totally should have come back
Speaker 7: and like been his girlfriend. I could have used some
Speaker 7: fun stuff.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what we said. We said, this is a relationship.
Speaker 1: We really want to see where this goes. Especially seeing
Speaker 1: you in the Matthew's kitchen in that tag where you
Speaker 1: are just so you just so stand out with that family.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, this relationship really should have gone somewhere.
Speaker 1: We actually discussed it. You were so you were working
Speaker 1: so much during that time. We actually discussed whether or not.
Speaker 1: You know, they would have definitely like wanted you to,
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't have been available for us.
Speaker 7: Oh dude, I totally would have done it. Oh yeah, No.
Speaker 7: That was actually the time that I was just kind
Speaker 7: of getting out of the child actor phase and really
Speaker 7: slowly starting to get into the team. So I was.
Speaker 7: I struggled during that time for a little bit right
Speaker 7: after that, where I had a hard time getting jobs.
Speaker 7: So I think that you know, I cut my hair
Speaker 7: and I put on weight, and I was like rebelling
Speaker 7: against all the things that Hollywood was pretending to be
Speaker 7: at that time when yeah, you know, all the girls
Speaker 7: weighed like eighty pounds and that was like the thing,
Speaker 7: and I just I just wasn't that. I wasn't WB
Speaker 7: or whatever the hell that was at that ty material.
Speaker 7: So so I didn't work for a little bit or
Speaker 7: I struggled to get steps. So I totally would have
Speaker 7: would have come back. And I know when you guys
Speaker 7: did Girl Mats World, I was like, Oh, now's my chance.
Speaker 7: The way everybody back and then yeah, yeah, I think, yeah,
Speaker 7: I that didn't happen either, But uh.
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder how much of it also had
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that Danny didn't really come
Speaker 1: back too much longer, you know, Danny.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, possibly. I also think there were so
Speaker 7: many girls that they wanted to have on the show.
Speaker 7: Maybe for them that it just was like, oh, we'll
Speaker 7: see if that comes about. Let's let's keep bringing on
Speaker 7: new people and keep it fresh until, you know, until
Speaker 7: they needed to do something else, right, we do.
Speaker 3: We always talk about though.
Speaker 4: One of the things we had a big discussion about
Speaker 4: after we watched the episode was the path not taken
Speaker 4: and just the dynamic of adding your character into the
Speaker 4: friend group, you know, seeing an episode with TK and Tipanga,
Speaker 4: in an episode where maybe TK and Sean started.
Speaker 3: I mean, you could have gone a whole different way
Speaker 3: with the whole thing.
Speaker 4: So we're talking about inventing a time machine, and we
Speaker 4: realized the first thing we have to do is actually
Speaker 4: invent it. So if you have any plans or know
Speaker 4: anything about that, super helpful.
Speaker 7: And you know, I just actually was watching something I
Speaker 7: just interviewed for our show. I interviewed Jamie Kennedy last week,
Speaker 7: and he and I had done this show for Disney
Speaker 7: and ABC called Oh God No, I'm Forgetting It Hollywood Lives,
Speaker 7: and it was like a reality show that was focused
Speaker 7: on There was like seven or eight of us that
Speaker 7: this crew followed us around on all of our jobs
Speaker 7: and all of our auditions. And I actually was doing
Speaker 7: this episode.
Speaker 2: Well I've seen this, yeah, this to us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, after our podcast episode came out, people sent this
Speaker 5: to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was really so fascinating.
Speaker 7: I mean now, like I can't imagine how nerve racking
Speaker 7: that must have been for me to have only done
Speaker 7: one other sitcom essentially before coming onto your show, and
Speaker 7: then having this camera crew like follow my every move
Speaker 7: and oh my god, I don't know how. I don't
Speaker 7: know how we did that.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up because we actually have
Speaker 1: a clip from Hollywood Lives.
Speaker 6: Let's play it now so we can discuss.
Speaker 3: Oh god, since.
Speaker 7: I've been this business since I was four or five
Speaker 7: years old, I feel like I have grown up too fast.
Speaker 6: Thing I missed it on going to high school.
Speaker 1: I haven't been in a high school since ninth grade.
Speaker 6: I'm already a senior miss and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be a cheerleader.
Speaker 6: You know we're now.
Speaker 2: It's because I didn't have that.
Speaker 7: I like, I go.
Speaker 6: I want to go to the problem.
Speaker 2: I want to be a cheerleader.
Speaker 6: I wanted to be on the yearbook, to mean, I
Speaker 6: want to do all these things.
Speaker 7: Didn't get a chance to do.
Speaker 2: Who is that?
Speaker 7: That isn't even salad?
Speaker 6: I know, such a little girl voice.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, that's crazy. I still want to do
Speaker 7: all that stuff, but I didn't get Yeah, you know,
Speaker 7: we're all kid after so you have when you finally
Speaker 7: have your own family, you're able to go back and
Speaker 7: do all of those things that you couldn't do. Like
Speaker 7: my kids, you know, I'm out, Like we moved. I
Speaker 7: moved to the country because I've got two boys, and
Speaker 7: like we go camping and we ride dirt bikes, and
Speaker 7: we go in the lake and like all those things
Speaker 7: that we weren't I particularly wasn't allowed to do because
Speaker 7: I couldn't get hurt. You know, we were working and
Speaker 7: there was no time for any of that stuff. So
Speaker 7: that's really important to me as I now am able
Speaker 7: to sort of do it over again with with kids.
Speaker 7: But how sad I still didn't go to prom.
Speaker 5: It's so funny to talk about. I mean, we talked
Speaker 5: so with so many child actors, and it's always seems
Speaker 5: to be like all we all craved was normalcy, right,
Speaker 5: like whatever that was. And then of course when we
Speaker 5: were in those normal situations, if we got lucky enough,
Speaker 5: all anybody would do is like point us out as
Speaker 5: like you're the person on TV.
Speaker 2: Which we hated.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's like that's why we all hated being
Speaker 5: things like as long as we liked the work, we
Speaker 5: didn't we wanted to be able to like flip a switch,
Speaker 5: you know, and just be like go back to normal.
Speaker 7: And I think that's why a lot of us were
Speaker 7: we stayed friends with each other or we rolled in
Speaker 7: the same group because nobody ever talked about what they
Speaker 7: were working on. Nobody ever talked about anything. But I
Speaker 7: know we were all eighteen and like owned our own
Speaker 7: homes or like close to it, you know. I mean,
Speaker 7: that's nuts to think about all that. And we also
Speaker 7: grew up in Hollywood in the nineties. Like I can't
Speaker 7: imagine what these kids have to go through now. We
Speaker 7: we got out just in time, I mean, just in life,
Speaker 7: by the nit.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: I said about my marriage too, I'm like, I married
Speaker 7: you before the dating apps, thank god, because that could
Speaker 7: have been a breaking disaster, you know. So I think
Speaker 7: that's the same thing. Like we we really we we
Speaker 7: had it really good in Hollywood in the nineties. At
Speaker 7: least I did. None of us like went down that
Speaker 7: dark that dark path that we could have gone down. Thankfully. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Absolutely. Today we announce our biggest undertaking yet.
Speaker 2: Pod Meets World is going on the road with a
Speaker 2: brand new show.
Speaker 3: It's the Kids Want to Jump Tour.
Speaker 5: We are thrilled to be traveling the country, eating regional
Speaker 5: fast food and meeting our listeners.
Speaker 6: We'll be telling even more backstage stories, taking your questions,
Speaker 6: recreating classic scenes, offering some meet and greet action, and
Speaker 6: holding a costume contest in every city.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dresses anything from Boy Meets World or Pod Meats World,
Speaker 3: from main cast to wildly obscure, and will be picking
Speaker 3: a winner to get an official Boy Meets World shooting script,
Speaker 3: the actual one I use in the nineties, signed by
Speaker 3: all of us. Good luck finding one of those the
Speaker 3: PONWDN shop. No, really good luck, because I sold a few.
Speaker 3: Let's just say I was a quibi investor.
Speaker 1: We have already announced our first seven days. We're kicking
Speaker 1: it off in Minneapolis on July.
Speaker 3: Twentieth, Milwaukee on July twenty first, and Royal Oak, Michigan
Speaker 3: on July twenty second.
Speaker 6: Then we are off to Nashville on August fourth.
Speaker 5: I know one good friend you might join us there,
Speaker 5: Saint Louis on August fifth.
Speaker 6: And also Kansas City on August sixth.
Speaker 3: And then we're coming to Orlando on September eighteenth. It's
Speaker 3: a different show every night, and we'll have all new March.
Speaker 6: Pre sales starts this Wednesday, May third, at ten am
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Speaker 5: And public on sale starts Friday, May fifth, also at
Speaker 5: ten am local.
Speaker 3: You can go to podmeetsworldshow dot com now for more
Speaker 3: info and links on how to purchase early on Wednesday.
Speaker 6: Maybe just keep refreshing until then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be too much.
Speaker 3: Pod Meets World. The kids want to jump to our
Speaker 3: be coming to you. Don't miss it.
Speaker 1: We talk a lot too, especially when we talk to child.
Speaker 1: Did you ever experience and it sounds like you did.
Speaker 1: Did you ever experience any type of like burnout where
Speaker 1: you were like, that's it, I'm done, i don't want
Speaker 1: to do this anymore. I'm just gonna go away. And
Speaker 1: if so, what was that like for you? And when
Speaker 1: did it happen? What sparked it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 7: Girl, it's still happening. But I think I moved to Texas.
Speaker 7: You can't stand Hollywood. Yeah, I mean I think it
Speaker 7: really was around the transition period where I was no
Speaker 7: longer and I'm still going through. You know, I'm forty
Speaker 7: six and when I get calls, which never really happens,
Speaker 7: but if I do, it's for you know, an episodic
Speaker 7: where I'm playing it's like forty five to fifty five,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, I'm never going to get this. I
Speaker 7: just feel so dumb. And I think that around that
Speaker 7: period too, I just felt like I couldn't quite find
Speaker 7: my thing. I always played kind of the tough girl,
Speaker 7: but they were I wasn't like the lead. I wasn't
Speaker 7: quite like the sidekick. I was sort of in between.
Speaker 7: So I was just like, I'm done. I'm cutting my hair,
Speaker 7: I'm gaining weight, I'm doing that I want to do.
Speaker 7: I got my real estate license. I was like, I'm
Speaker 7: going to do this. I'm going to try something totally different.
Speaker 7: That lasted for about a month, and I was like,
Speaker 7: I hate this. I don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 7: This is awful. Everyone thinks I'm like fifteen trying to
Speaker 7: sell them a house. So I just kind of dug
Speaker 7: my heels into the horror community, which really was the
Speaker 7: only thing that welcomed me back and gave me those,
Speaker 7: you know, those lead roles that I wasn't going to
Speaker 7: get doing any other genre. I was able to like
Speaker 7: flex my acting muscles and really carry a film and
Speaker 7: not have to be on this a list, so to speak.
Speaker 7: So I sort of went, well, maybe I should sort
Speaker 7: of lean into that and not worry so much about
Speaker 7: I got to be on a show. I got to
Speaker 7: be series regular, and I need to be in Hollywood.
Speaker 7: I need to do this and that, because that wasn't
Speaker 7: paying the bills anyway, right, I mean, I definitely do
Speaker 7: better financially because of the horror community. I mean, you're
Speaker 7: directing court like that. World is unbelievable. And it's also
Speaker 7: like the pop culture. I mean, it's the it's the
Speaker 7: same thing. It's the kids of the nineties, Like there
Speaker 7: are age now. When I do these appearances, it's not
Speaker 7: young kids. It's like everybody our age. Everybody comes up
Speaker 7: to me at a horror convention and I would say
Speaker 7: one out of every ten people are talk about boy
Speaker 7: muse world Wow constantly, constantly, constantly. I love it. I
Speaker 7: even have the picture on my table.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's so great.
Speaker 7: I'm like, this is this is I mean, that's just
Speaker 7: what we It feels good, you know, nostalgia. And I
Speaker 7: think this may maybe I shouldn't go about this, but
Speaker 7: I know when like Girl Meets World came back and
Speaker 7: they were starting bring kind of some people back again,
Speaker 7: and and I thought, God, they're missing they're missing something
Speaker 7: here because who they think is watching it's not who's watching.
Speaker 5: Right, they're aiming for the kids. They're aiming for eleven
Speaker 5: thirteen year olds, and you're like, no.
Speaker 7: No, they're on they're on YouTube. They're not. They're not,
Speaker 7: They're not.
Speaker 5: Should have a show. It should have been it should
Speaker 5: have been a grown up ABC show about being parents,
Speaker 5: and it.
Speaker 7: Would have it would have gone in two seconds because
Speaker 7: you had you had all the audience back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why Fuller House worked. I mean, it's exactly
Speaker 3: why full House the same thing. So, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4: Back in the day, though, you did some of the
Speaker 4: greatest films. I mean, you were in some stuff that
Speaker 4: I mean one after another of just it's.
Speaker 2: Are you putting Marked for Death?
Speaker 7: As the.
Speaker 2: Hell, yes i am.
Speaker 3: I'm putting things that mattered to me.
Speaker 5: I never seen Mark for Death. But before we got
Speaker 5: to you, it was like, which one is that? Because
Speaker 5: there's all those like movies that have the same name,
Speaker 5: but they're just like Mark for Death, the how is
Speaker 5: it the como to kill?
Speaker 3: That's yeah, no, but you did. I mean it was
Speaker 3: that in the Last Boy Scout.
Speaker 4: There were films that were were you know, one or two, three,
Speaker 4: four after another that were just phenomenally which were big budgets.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, big budget.
Speaker 7: I mean those don't exist anymore.
Speaker 3: I mean not to that extent.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, is there one that stands out for
Speaker 4: you that from back in the day that really kind
Speaker 4: of was an amazing experience or an experience at least
Speaker 4: that you I mean, don't tell mom.
Speaker 7: The Babysitters Dead was probably like one of the only
Speaker 7: movies that I've done still where they really made a
Speaker 7: point to allow us to be kids on Yeah, you know,
Speaker 7: we had like Nintendo and the trailer we had. We
Speaker 7: were able to go swimming during lunch like that never
Speaker 7: happens where they're like, go in the pool, you guys,
Speaker 7: go swimming. We'll dry your hair after to go back
Speaker 7: to work.
Speaker 6: That's amazing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So Steve and Herrick was really good about making
Speaker 7: sure that we were just kids, and I think it shows.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say that really plays on camera with
Speaker 4: my boy Keith Coogan, who was the greatest guys in the.
Speaker 3: World, So I love him. He's amazing film. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: that I guess that.
Speaker 7: I mean The Last Boy Scout too. I think I
Speaker 7: really didn't know how big that movie was until I
Speaker 7: got much older. There's actually a scene in that movie
Speaker 7: where it probably took me ten years to rewatch it
Speaker 7: again once I got older and watch this audition scene
Speaker 7: and there was a line that I had in the
Speaker 7: movie where I remembered not knowing what it meant when
Speaker 7: I said it, but it's still was funny. And the
Speaker 7: line was, I'm doing this scene where Damon WANs is
Speaker 7: meeting me for the first time and we're in the
Speaker 7: living room and he's got a shaved head, but his
Speaker 7: hair shows a number in the back of his head, right,
Speaker 7: so he's bald, but this like hair number thirteen or whatever.
Speaker 7: And the line is like, Hey, what's that number in
Speaker 7: the back of your head? Is that like a license
Speaker 7: plate in case somebody tries to steal it? And he says, no,
Speaker 7: it's my high school number. And I say, oh, so
Speaker 7: when do you graduate? And stupid, honestly, I didn't realize
Speaker 7: that I was making a joke of the fact that
Speaker 7: he's obviously in his thirties. Yes, I was saying that
Speaker 7: he was seventeen. And I mean, it literally took me
Speaker 7: a decade to go, oh, that's no yet at thirteen,
Speaker 7: you don't know what the hell you're saying. But as
Speaker 7: long as they're laughing, it's all that matters.
Speaker 5: Oh no. We talk about on Boy Meets World the
Speaker 5: amount of references that they had, especially like fifties references
Speaker 5: or even like earlier no clue, like we had no clue,
Speaker 5: and like still to this day, those are usually the
Speaker 5: only references I have to those references.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, yeah, there was a pointys worldline about that.
Speaker 5: And I said it, but I don't know what family
Speaker 5: matter or what was the one that We've also had
Speaker 5: guest stars like will you always point out like so
Speaker 5: and so was on our show from love Bote, I'm like,
Speaker 5: no idea.
Speaker 2: I don't know what love boat is. I don't know
Speaker 2: who that was. But I worked with them for a week,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: But there's also stuff that still went over your head.
Speaker 4: I mean, we watch an episode the other day where
Speaker 4: Danielle and I like, this episode starts with an erection joke,
Speaker 4: and right where who doesn't.
Speaker 8: It's like, what are you talking about the blood flowing?
Speaker 8: Talking about blood flowing as your kids, that's an erection joke.
Speaker 8: He's like, oh, I I probably didn't get it back
Speaker 8: then either, yea at all.
Speaker 7: Maybe that's what makes it so endearing you know, yeah,
Speaker 7: for sure, and actually so writer. So you know, I
Speaker 7: worked with your brother on a pilot. I don't know
Speaker 7: if you know the track it was. It was called
Speaker 7: odd Man Out and it was Shiloh was This Star
Speaker 7: and Hi Hillary Swink was made to show.
Speaker 5: Meredith Sallenger Sallenger Man and you know they redid that
Speaker 5: show after. The writers of that show were Ed Dector
Speaker 5: and John Strauss, who came on to Boy Meets World
Speaker 5: and then they had huge success with There's Something About Mary,
Speaker 5: so they got to make whatever they wanted and they
Speaker 5: went back and did odd Man Out over again with
Speaker 5: a new generation.
Speaker 7: And I think it was on ABC, like T or something.
Speaker 2: It came on, Yeah, and that lasted I think only
Speaker 2: a season or two.
Speaker 3: But I was on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that that's the one you went and
Speaker 5: guested on when I was on show. But you know
Speaker 5: that pilot was so that was a good pilot, That's right.
Speaker 5: I forgot that you were in that with him.
Speaker 7: What a cast.
Speaker 4: That was? That was.
Speaker 5: Chila was supposed to do that show, and when that
Speaker 5: show didn't get picked up, they offered him the Mommies
Speaker 5: or they wanted to network him for Boy Meets World.
Speaker 5: To be Will's character, and he chose the job because
Speaker 5: he didn't want to have to test again, so we
Speaker 5: just took the job on the Mommies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for a whole other way.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 7: I Will obviously like Will, I know you. I met
Speaker 7: you through Jenna. Yeah, you know back and actually you
Speaker 7: were living in the building with jenevan Oi. Right, did
Speaker 7: she got an apartment there?
Speaker 1: No, no, I writer, did you? It was just very
Speaker 1: close with Jenna. Jenna and I spent so much time together.
Speaker 1: She was a few years older than me, and I
Speaker 1: just thought she was the coolest ever Toyota.
Speaker 7: Yes, oh my.
Speaker 6: Own, Oh my god. I was such a fan.
Speaker 4: But that's what we bonded over on our first date
Speaker 4: because she took me out to she was like interviewing
Speaker 4: me like you did Danielle for like sixteen magazine or
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 3: She was doing those as well, and we went out
Speaker 3: and we both said, oh, we're both I'm from Connecticut.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm from.
Speaker 3: Connecticut, and as well, I have a Toyota Celica. She's like,
Speaker 3: I have a Toyota Cela.
Speaker 2: And it was like the end of that night we
Speaker 2: were dating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listeners who don't know. We're talking about jenavon Oy,
Speaker 1: who we all have a connection to on this. So
Speaker 1: that's so that's are you guys still friends?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I saw her. I did a show
Speaker 7: in Nashville like two years ago, and I called her
Speaker 7: and we took our kids out to breakfast. Yeah, she
Speaker 7: is awesome. We still kind of look like we could
Speaker 7: be sister. I mean, I know, you know five ft
Speaker 7: all of us.
Speaker 2: I know, when you're a child actor man being short, it's.
Speaker 7: A bonus's yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1: So going back to your week on Boy Meets World,
Speaker 1: what do you remember, if anything, about either Blake or
Speaker 1: or Danny Ethan? What do you remember about that week?
Speaker 7: So this is actually funny. So I had the biggest
Speaker 7: crush on Blake and I don't know if so I
Speaker 7: had a crush on Blake and he was friends with
Speaker 7: a mutual friend of mine, god, Heidi Lucas and another
Speaker 7: child actor. And I'm sure if you saw her you
Speaker 7: would remember. I have a seen since I was probably
Speaker 7: like my teen, but I think I met Blake on
Speaker 7: your show and then I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: he's so cutie, so cute. She's like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: he's my friend. And that was back in the day
Speaker 7: where there was three way calling where you could like
Speaker 7: not know the other person was on silent. You'd like
Speaker 7: click click them on on your phone. And and Heidi
Speaker 7: called Blake after the show and said, hey, you know,
Speaker 7: so he worked with my friend at Ellen.
Speaker 2: What do you think of her?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And he was like, oh, she's really nice and he's
Speaker 7: being really pecy about it. And then they ended up
Speaker 7: hanging up and I was still on and then you know,
Speaker 7: her and I talked like, oh my god, oh my god,
Speaker 7: a wonderful go out with me, blah blah blah. And
Speaker 7: then at some point I heard I don't know, maybe
Speaker 7: I will, and I was like, he never hung up
Speaker 7: the phone.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, karma, man, that's karma. That was
Speaker 5: like you were trying to trick him and he got you.
Speaker 7: Of course, I immediately just hung up the phone. And
Speaker 7: then they never I never saw him and never talked
Speaker 7: about it ever again.
Speaker 3: Oh no.
Speaker 7: Freaked out. Well, I mean I had I had a
Speaker 7: great time, you know, it was it was really one
Speaker 7: of the Again, I I had just done Roseanne, so
Speaker 7: I didn't have I'd never been on another show where
Speaker 7: where there were other kids my age essentially, and you
Speaker 7: guys were great and obviously all friends and got along
Speaker 7: and it was warm and welcoming, and it gave me
Speaker 7: the freedom to just play I had. I had a
Speaker 7: great time, so and I mean it didn't work out
Speaker 7: between Blake and I. But you know, and Danielle, you
Speaker 7: weren't on the show. I think you were just there
Speaker 7: doing school. You weren't on that episode.
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if I was even there doing school
Speaker 1: because I always went back to my regular school. Okay, right,
Speaker 1: So on weeks that I wasn't in the show, I
Speaker 1: wasn't even on set. So yeah, it was such a
Speaker 1: bummer because watching the episodes then that I'm not in,
Speaker 1: I'm always like, oh man, I bet that was I
Speaker 1: want to be there for the behind the scenes stuff.
Speaker 1: But also I was so rooting to see more of
Speaker 1: your character, and yet had your character really taken off there,
Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't have really ever crossed paths. But like
Speaker 1: Will said, it's it's such a shame that there wasn't
Speaker 1: like a different version of the show where we could
Speaker 1: have the show that we have, because that's great in
Speaker 1: and of itself. But then also I want to travel
Speaker 1: through all the different lines and lives and all the
Speaker 1: different storylines we could have had if we had just
Speaker 1: kept more characters around or never let people go.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's so much fun.
Speaker 7: A bunch of my friends actually messaged me after hearing
Speaker 7: I guess you guys talked about the fourth sister, Sister
Speaker 7: Teresa not too long ago, and everybody was taught and
Speaker 7: messing me like, they're talking about.
Speaker 6: You, but why are you gonna be on the show?
Speaker 7: And I was like, I'm supposed to be on What
Speaker 7: do you mean we're talking about it? I thought I
Speaker 7: was going to do the episode and then they're like,
Speaker 7: oh no, no, you guys do it in two different parts.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I was happy about that.
Speaker 4: It was we were all just so blown away with
Speaker 4: how much more advanced as an actor you just seemed
Speaker 4: than the rest of us, and so to then kind
Speaker 4: of now retroactively hear that this was the second time
Speaker 4: you'd ever done a sick time.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the whole thing is so yeah.
Speaker 5: But but she've been working and she they were four
Speaker 5: or five. Yeah, five, you had so much experience and
Speaker 5: you had done had you done a soap already?
Speaker 2: At this point.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did a soap for two years. Then I
Speaker 7: started doing film and then Movie of the Weeks.
Speaker 5: When that was say, seems like soaps are like a
Speaker 5: great thing for young actors, because the same thing with
Speaker 5: Lindsay Price, like she walked onto our set and was like,
Speaker 5: I can do tears.
Speaker 2: You need tears and it was like those Yeah, and
Speaker 2: she had.
Speaker 5: Done years on a soap, and it's like, wow, what
Speaker 5: a proving ground, you know, because you just have to
Speaker 5: do you know, five episodes a day or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's like you just get that muscle and.
Speaker 3: You just learn it, so you you don't have time
Speaker 3: to get into your character to start crying. You just
Speaker 3: have to start crying.
Speaker 7: It's just and I still don't have time, you know.
Speaker 7: I do like indie horror, so there's still like three seconds,
Speaker 7: twelve you know, twelve pages and eighteen pages a day,
Speaker 7: just in complete insanity. But I think I think I
Speaker 7: I enjoyed your show so much because coming from Roseanne,
Speaker 7: I had a heart. I struggled a lot on that show.
Speaker 7: I had a hard time, you know, the writing. My
Speaker 7: character on that show was always the one that set
Speaker 7: up the jokes for Sarah Gilbert like I was always
Speaker 7: like I never got I never left an episode feeling
Speaker 7: like I did a good job, Like I never got
Speaker 7: the laugh, I never got the direction or the attention.
Speaker 7: It was always do this so we can then make
Speaker 7: her this interesting. So I had a harder time. So
Speaker 7: I think coming back coming to years, I was like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, this is how it could be if
Speaker 7: I just had a little bit of of reassurance and
Speaker 7: you know, positive reinforcement, and and I was given funny
Speaker 7: stuff to say.
Speaker 2: And do you know, episode is yours. It's basically just
Speaker 2: Ben reacting to you. That's the entire episode.
Speaker 5: It's like you come in like a tornado and the
Speaker 5: whole show has to like reorient itself around you. It's amazing,
Speaker 5: but it takes such confidence for that age to be
Speaker 5: able to think.
Speaker 4: You were finding things that maybe wouldn't have been funny
Speaker 4: with anybody else. That was the other thing is you
Speaker 4: were making things where it was like, oh, another actor
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't have gone that route and it wouldn't have
Speaker 4: found the same joke. Yeah, yeah, that was That was
Speaker 4: very impressive with that. As I was watching and it
Speaker 4: was kind of like, oh, I bet that wasn't on
Speaker 4: the page like that was on and she did that
Speaker 4: on her feet like that was.
Speaker 7: Just been me. Yeah, I mean, I'm you know, I
Speaker 7: grew up in Brooklyn like a kind of like kind
Speaker 7: of was always sort of a tough girl, so I
Speaker 7: think that was Like again, when I read for it,
Speaker 7: I was like, oh I could do this, Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: oh yeah, I got this, this as mine. And then
Speaker 7: I was happy that I didn't get any of the
Speaker 7: other times at that audition because this was a much better,
Speaker 7: more vvorable character being a sister.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a good reminder that, like when when
Speaker 1: things don't seem like they're working out in your favor,
Speaker 1: to just remind yourself, like, no, it is working out
Speaker 1: in my favor. I didn't get the job I want,
Speaker 1: but it's because the better one, the one that's meant
Speaker 1: for me, is around the corner.
Speaker 7: And I didn't know, you know, who knows that they
Speaker 7: had they were thinking about bringing somebody on for a
Speaker 7: sister or you know, I don't, I don't know what
Speaker 7: they what they had already had in mind. So I
Speaker 7: was just glad that I got to be a.
Speaker 6: Part of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were, like you said, the little bit of
Speaker 1: the kind of like tough girl was so part of
Speaker 1: your personality. And yet you also mentioned you're five feet tall.
Speaker 1: You're like a little spitfire, which I just love. But
Speaker 1: you were also a little older than Ben. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what do you remember about your dynamic with Ben and
Speaker 1: working together that week?
Speaker 7: He was petrified of me.
Speaker 2: I mean, he That's why it's so good. It's good
Speaker 2: because it was real.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he really was petrified. I distinctly remember when I
Speaker 7: have to when I like go to kiss him for
Speaker 7: the first time in the I guess like in the
Speaker 7: school school, and every time I would go in to
Speaker 7: do it, it's from rehearsals to like just before we
Speaker 7: were like rolling, he would.
Speaker 6: Like do this, and I kept feeling like scared. He's
Speaker 6: supposed to like me.
Speaker 7: I mean, I am coming on a little strong, but
Speaker 7: to be like, oh god, oh god, and like, is
Speaker 7: she gonna kiss me?
Speaker 5: But I think he was fourteen, No, he probably was
Speaker 5: only thirteen. I think he was only thirteen. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: he would have been thirteen and you were like seventeen.
Speaker 7: Or I was almost eighteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're the same aid you and I made. So
Speaker 4: it was Yeah, it was that, But that was always
Speaker 4: Ben Ben.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did the same thing when I went to
Speaker 1: go kiss him in the pilot and there in the
Speaker 1: in my first episode, it was a I mean.
Speaker 7: When is that? I was like, Oh, I don't know
Speaker 7: what to do. I remember just looking at David like
Speaker 7: I I'm not.
Speaker 5: Sure it works for the episode though. It makes it
Speaker 5: such a deer in the headlights the entire time.
Speaker 7: When the audience comes in like or like are we
Speaker 7: gonna write to be like this? Or I'm not sure
Speaker 7: is he supposed to want to kiss me back? As
Speaker 7: it totally changes how I'm going to react after that,
Speaker 7: you know, right, I think I like, do something with
Speaker 7: his fuzzy head or something and then walk off all saddy.
Speaker 7: But if he's going to be freaked out, then it
Speaker 7: would fall for something else.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which I just remembered too that you are
Speaker 1: actually wearing a skirt thank you that has the sex
Speaker 1: pistols font and it just says sex kitten, sex kitten.
Speaker 7: Oh interesting, What the hell was I wearing?
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I wanted to ask you. Do
Speaker 6: you remember your wardrobe fittings? Do you remember the clothes?
Speaker 7: Yes? So there's actually a story about that. My best
Speaker 7: guy friend at the time he has passed away since
Speaker 7: I used to be Ben's tennis coach or be on
Speaker 7: the same team that Ben was on, I want to say,
Speaker 7: like bell Air or something or other. And I loved
Speaker 7: that black leather jacket. And I remember leaving him telling
Speaker 7: my friend Adam like, I love this jecket, I love
Speaker 7: this jack I love the jacket. And for Christmas that year,
Speaker 7: I think it was the Christmas birthday, he tracked down
Speaker 7: Ben from he had talked to him in like five
Speaker 7: years or ten years or something, tracked him down through
Speaker 7: a mutual friend or something, and Ben got Adam in
Speaker 7: touch with out of wardrobe and bought that jacket for me,
Speaker 7: which of course I probably got rid of it a
Speaker 7: garage so because I don't have it anymore, but you know, I.
Speaker 2: Hold it up right now that was there.
Speaker 7: It is. I still have my leather Like my leather
Speaker 7: jackets are like something that makes me feel very comfortable
Speaker 7: ering confident. And I noticed like I wear them a lot,
Speaker 7: just in movies. If I have a choice of like
Speaker 7: what I'm going to wear, I'll always bring my own
Speaker 7: or it's like my safety blanket. So so yeah, so
Speaker 7: so Ben helped facilitate me getting that leather jacket from Wardrobe.
Speaker 6: Cool, what a wonderful story.
Speaker 4: Yeahs, the rider has the sex kitten skirt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kept that.
Speaker 1: Wears a choice. So you've mentioned a few times pilots
Speaker 1: that you've done. How many pilots have you done? Would
Speaker 1: you say in the course of your career?
Speaker 7: I don't even know, maybe like twenty from Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 7: none of them went literally none of them.
Speaker 6: Actually, okay, I'm.
Speaker 7: Gonna write a book. One day. I had an animated
Speaker 7: what I did an animated series for Nickeoladeon called The
Speaker 7: Wild Thorn Berriers, And then I went on to do
Speaker 7: a show called Uh, Father of the Pride and it
Speaker 7: was DreamWorks and it was about Roy, say Freed and Roy,
Speaker 7: but it was the story revolved around the White Lions tigers.
Speaker 7: So it was me, John Goodman, Chryl Hines, Uh, oh
Speaker 7: my God, like Eddie Murphy, like everyeople came back on
Speaker 7: did you like Donkeys?
Speaker 6: Budget huge?
Speaker 7: So we recorded for a year. We did thirteen episodes,
Speaker 7: cameras in the rooms and you know, did it was
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, the White Life, you know, she
Speaker 7: looked like me, like starting Okay, it's crazy. And then
Speaker 7: we premiered we we were we premier I think one episode.
Speaker 7: It was the first primetime show like that for NBC.
Speaker 7: We premiered our first show. It was a big hit,
Speaker 7: and then Roy got mauled in real life on stage
Speaker 7: by the Tiger.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, all the time that the Tiger ruined your pilot.
Speaker 7: Well, well we had to go back. We were nominated
Speaker 7: for a People's Choice Award, and we had to go
Speaker 7: back and redo all of these episodes because throughout the
Speaker 7: show we're making fun of Sigfried and Roy, like they're
Speaker 7: very dramatic, they're very flamboyant, and now the jokes are
Speaker 7: just not funny because he's literally fighting for his life. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so we were like, oh, of all the times, the
Speaker 7: one time I get on show, on a primetime show, Like,
Speaker 7: what are the odds of this happening? So my career
Speaker 7: has always been a little bit, a little bit funny
Speaker 7: like that. But one day they'll be there are good
Speaker 7: stories to tell at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I mean, any other any other pilots that really stand
Speaker 1: out you want to talk about, just ones.
Speaker 7: That I didn't I didn't get that I wish I
Speaker 7: would have, that would have totally changed my career. I
Speaker 7: tested against nev four party of five. Yes, I can
Speaker 7: see that, and I had tested five times before she
Speaker 7: came out from Canada. I even read with all of
Speaker 7: the Baileyes, like I was there. It was like Johnny
Speaker 7: Whitworth and Scott and Scott got were there together. So
Speaker 7: it was like me in network with the two of
Speaker 7: them reading for it, and I was in there for
Speaker 7: their work sessions. And then I went and tested against
Speaker 7: Ashley Lovitt actually for that role, and then they let
Speaker 7: Ashley go and then I came back and the notes
Speaker 7: were they wanted me to be sexier. It was fox right,
Speaker 7: that's the worst. They wanted me to be sexier. But
Speaker 7: the character like she's fifteen. Yeah. The scene that I
Speaker 7: was reading was me talking to Bailey about how I
Speaker 7: liked this boy and I've never had a first kiss
Speaker 7: and I did understand.
Speaker 2: You know, you only had the sex Kittens truck.
Speaker 3: Yeah tell yeah, So I don't mean that character is
Speaker 3: not sexy at all. No, No, I went in. I was.
Speaker 7: I wore like like a dress, like a low cut
Speaker 7: dress and like heels, like what I thought was sexy
Speaker 7: at fifteen, you know, which was so not probably what
Speaker 7: they were looking for. And then I remember Ned came
Speaker 7: in from Canada and she was wearing overalls and a
Speaker 7: tube top and I was but she's much chessier than
Speaker 7: I was. But I was like, I feel like I
Speaker 7: feel so dumb, I mean, like a dress in heels.
Speaker 7: And she was like nineteen. I was sixteen, but I
Speaker 7: was emancipated, but I was still sixteen, and so I
Speaker 7: didn't get it. She got it. But and you know
Speaker 7: at the end when they take you in in groups
Speaker 7: of like here's Group A, and you're like, oh, they
Speaker 7: all look alike, that's the choice. And then you're in
Speaker 7: the you're like, yeah, group, So like we need to explain.
Speaker 1: We need to explain two things for our dear listeners. One,
Speaker 1: let's talk about what it means to be emancipated as
Speaker 1: a minor.
Speaker 7: So emancipated basically, when you're under eighteen, there are rules
Speaker 7: that production has to follow, like school, certain hours you
Speaker 7: can work. And they don't like that because they want
Speaker 7: to work you as much as they possibly can and
Speaker 7: it restricts them. So you have to go hire an attorney.
Speaker 3: Like this is what I did.
Speaker 7: A hire an attorney, and I had to go before
Speaker 7: a judge and basically say, my grades are this, I
Speaker 7: would like to be considered a legal adult so I
Speaker 7: can have all of the same responsibilities and benefits of
Speaker 7: being a legal adult in the workplace. I was. I
Speaker 7: moved out of my house, I bought a house. I
Speaker 7: mean I was. I was an adult.
Speaker 6: And how old were you when you did that?
Speaker 7: I was almost seventeen.
Speaker 2: I have to be sixteen. You can't do it before
Speaker 2: you're sixteen. I did it at sixteen to sixteen.
Speaker 7: I mean, we're already adults at that point. Anyway. I mean,
Speaker 7: I guess, thank god we didn't do I mean, I
Speaker 7: don't know. I don't know what happens. I don't know
Speaker 7: how that works, you know, legally, like if we did,
Speaker 7: if we got in trouble at sixteen and we were mancipate,
Speaker 7: are we trying?
Speaker 3: Yes, you are yes adult yea.
Speaker 7: And also it's emancipated.
Speaker 2: Really, you know you never got emancipate it noither.
Speaker 6: My parents were absolutely not.
Speaker 5: I guess, well, you were still on boy. I was
Speaker 5: doing other jobs. I guess I was still on boy too.
Speaker 5: But it was actually, like I remember, it worked for
Speaker 5: for me to be able to go do party five
Speaker 5: because they were one of the companies that were like,
Speaker 5: we don't hire anybody who's not emancipated. So when I was,
Speaker 5: I got emancipated, and then I got you know, of
Speaker 5: recurring on Party of five.
Speaker 7: I wonder if that's still a thing. I mean, I
Speaker 7: don't know what it is. I don't know how things
Speaker 7: work nowadays with these these young'ins, But I mean I'm
Speaker 7: assuming it's still there's still laws and rules and all that.
Speaker 3: I don't think there are any rules on TikTok.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: You can do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're an influencer, I don't think they're following
Speaker 2: any rules. You know. That's that's what's scary.
Speaker 7: Well. I mean, and I could talk to you guys
Speaker 7: for hours about this. I you know, I still have
Speaker 7: a ton of kid actor friends, and and I've talked
Speaker 7: to Keith Coogan forts and lengths about this as well
Speaker 7: as Corey Feldman and everybody about just really trying to
Speaker 7: push the I still can't believe there's only fifteen percent
Speaker 7: taken out of a miner's paycheck in only what five states?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: How is that still only happening in five states?
Speaker 4: And isn't isn't the actual law based around how much
Speaker 4: money you have to save based on Keith's dad, his grandfather,
Speaker 4: He's grandfather, so.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's Jackie Koh again, yeah, because he you know
Speaker 7: in the thirties is he lost all of his money
Speaker 7: and I, unfortunately, you know, was one of those similar
Speaker 7: support in my family and turned eighteen and I you know,
Speaker 7: they didn't that wasn't happening. And when I lived in
Speaker 7: New York and I didn't move to LA until I
Speaker 7: was thirteen, almost fourteen, so I only had four years
Speaker 7: essentially of that fifteen percent. And what I think they
Speaker 7: should do is flip it yea and have the majority
Speaker 7: like pay art you know, aar taxes, do all that stuff.
Speaker 7: Give the parents. You know, I think if if there
Speaker 7: was seventy five percent on hold, that many more parents
Speaker 7: would not be getting their kids into the entertainment industry
Speaker 7: as cash cows the ones that are doing it for
Speaker 7: the wrong reasons. I think if there was, if there
Speaker 7: was a cap on it and it flipped like that,
Speaker 7: they wouldn't be so inclined to like push their kids
Speaker 7: into the business if they didn't want to be in it,
Speaker 7: which makes.
Speaker 4: More sense because your parents a lot of times are
Speaker 4: acting quote unquote acting as a manager or an agent.
Speaker 4: So an agent gets ten percent, a manager gets fifteen percent.
Speaker 4: There you go, the parents get fifteen percent instead of
Speaker 4: a manager something like that. That definitely seems fair and
Speaker 4: makes more sense because we all know people that worked
Speaker 4: and worked and worked and worked and worked and at
Speaker 4: the end of the day had nothing nothing, and it's
Speaker 4: because somebody took it, somebody invested it, somebody.
Speaker 3: No, I'll don't worry, kid, I'll take care of your money.
Speaker 3: And then, you know, I mean I did it.
Speaker 7: I hired a business manager when I was fifteen because
Speaker 7: my mom my dad had passed. My mom didn't know
Speaker 7: anything about finances, and I was like, I don't know
Speaker 7: what to do. I was making a lot of money
Speaker 7: right around that fourteen fifteen sixteen, you know time period,
Speaker 7: and I had a business manager and I signed over
Speaker 7: power of attorney for him to just make sure that
Speaker 7: I was taken care of. And sure enough came eighteen
Speaker 7: and I had all these years of unpaid taxes that
Speaker 7: I didn't know. I bought my house. I lost my house,
Speaker 7: you know, I had to sell it. They garnished my wages,
Speaker 7: they emptied my.
Speaker 6: Bank account, like, oh that was that's horrible.
Speaker 7: From fourteen fifteen and sixteen of I didn't know my
Speaker 7: taxes weren't paid. I was signing something. I don't know
Speaker 7: where the checks aren't getting sent out. You know, you
Speaker 7: have no idea we trust people. So I had I
Speaker 7: had to start over again, and it took me until
Speaker 7: I was thirty to buy another house. And I still
Speaker 7: like and then that's stuff, and I just feel like,
Speaker 7: you know, I remember calling and being like, well I
Speaker 7: would see commercials back then, and I mean literally a
Speaker 7: human being came and knocked on my like they would
Speaker 7: knock on my front door when I was eighteen from
Speaker 7: the I r s like when a human being shows up,
Speaker 7: it's bad, it's really scary. And my roommate and Natalia,
Speaker 7: actually I think terror. I think Natalia Seglute probably know Natalia.
Speaker 6: So sweet.
Speaker 7: So Natalia and I and Tara Reid were all living together.
Speaker 7: They were in my house and yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 2: Then lends a pilot.
Speaker 7: So nuts and uh and and they would come knock
Speaker 7: on my door and I would hide and and like
Speaker 7: Natalia would get the door and be like she's she's
Speaker 7: not here, She's not here, I mean it was really scary.
Speaker 7: And then we're you know again, so so we're we're
Speaker 7: held responsible for stuff that happens to us when we're minors,
Speaker 7: like a member going and being like, what is this
Speaker 7: pennies on the dollar? Like how can I negotiate with
Speaker 7: the irs? I have no money, I don't know what
Speaker 7: to do. I mean, I'm not working, Like it was
Speaker 7: all around that time where I was like, I can't
Speaker 7: do this anymore and uh, and they were like, pennies
Speaker 7: on the dollar, we'll get our You're only eighteen, like,
Speaker 7: we'll get our money from you at some point, so
Speaker 7: we don't. We don't do that for people like you.
Speaker 7: So you're like, okay, well you just kind of pick
Speaker 7: up and you and you start over, you move on,
Speaker 7: but we're all still standing. So we did something right,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: The other thing we have to explain for our dear
Speaker 1: listeners before we forget is let's explain what it means
Speaker 1: to do twenty pilots or twenty five pilots and then
Speaker 1: for them not to go. We've talked about it a
Speaker 1: little bit where we've mentioned that you know, you audition
Speaker 1: for something, you get a callback for something, then you're
Speaker 1: going to test for something, and by the way that
Speaker 1: makes it sound like it's easy, it's sometimes twelve thirteen,
Speaker 1: fourteen auditions before you get to that point where now
Speaker 1: you're going to test, and before you test for network,
Speaker 1: you get to see your contract.
Speaker 6: You have to agree to the terms of your.
Speaker 2: Career, your contract. You get to see how much you're
Speaker 2: going to make, because.
Speaker 1: It's going to be every year, it's still done. It's
Speaker 1: not that he hasn't changed. So you get to sit down,
Speaker 1: what do I do?
Speaker 2: How's my life going to change?
Speaker 7: And you know that from the time that you walk
Speaker 7: out of the room, so you For me, most of
Speaker 7: the time, I would know before I got to my
Speaker 7: car if I got the job or.
Speaker 5: Not it does and then you'd have to sit around
Speaker 5: and wait for five seven days sometimes just keep you yeah.
Speaker 3: And that's now. Yeah, now, back in the day.
Speaker 5: It was back in the day they would make decisions
Speaker 5: within hours. But no, I feel like the last ten
Speaker 5: to fifteen years they'll just take their time and the
Speaker 5: whole other sessions and keep you dangling.
Speaker 3: Yeah awful, Well it was it was back in the day.
Speaker 4: You. I mean, there were times I was literally in
Speaker 4: a smoke filled room with them smoking cigarettes and would
Speaker 4: bring me back in and if you got the part
Speaker 4: kid like an old school kind of thing. And then
Speaker 4: there's a weird thing where you're you're getting your contracts
Speaker 4: and you're looking at your contracts, and your lawyers and
Speaker 4: your agents have to go through your contracts, and you
Speaker 4: get this combination of everything is mixed signals in this industry.
Speaker 4: So you get the combination of you have to sign
Speaker 4: your life away. This is your contract letter of the law.
Speaker 4: But then your agents and lawyers tell you, but if
Speaker 4: the show's a hit, we can renegotiate everything. It's like,
Speaker 4: well wait, yeah, is it what's on the page?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but.
Speaker 6: Six or seven year contract.
Speaker 1: Everyone understood that around year three there was a renegotiation negotiation.
Speaker 3: Even though you signed, you still even.
Speaker 1: Yeah, three year three ornegotiations, so you try to get
Speaker 1: to the third years.
Speaker 3: So weird I also did.
Speaker 7: There was one other pilot that I did that got
Speaker 7: that to get picked up actually and it got it
Speaker 7: got switched around. It was called That's Life and it
Speaker 7: was on CBS and it was Paul Servino, Ellen Burston,
Speaker 7: w Mazar Kevin Dyllan had their cast cast pilot Crazy yeah, going, God,
Speaker 7: well this one went. But so I auditioned tested as
Speaker 7: a series regular and got the job and got the pilot,
Speaker 7: and then the pilot became U got picked up, and
Speaker 7: I then was turned into a guest star top of
Speaker 7: the show for all nineteen episodes what come on? Because
Speaker 7: they brought on apparently they brought on. They didn't say
Speaker 7: who wanted, either Paul or Ellen or somebody else they
Speaker 7: didn't have at the beginning, and it ate up the money.
Speaker 7: So it was my I could either they're gonna They're
Speaker 7: basically like, we're writing her out as a series regular,
Speaker 7: but we can offer her a recurring for.
Speaker 3: You know, every episode, for every for every episode.
Speaker 7: I did it, and I did it, and I was like,
Speaker 7: under the guise of okay, but if this, if this is,
Speaker 7: if this goes good, then you know, next year they're
Speaker 7: going to do the right thing. You know, they'll make
Speaker 7: me a stories regular. And by the end of that
Speaker 7: first season, I took over that damn show. It was
Speaker 7: I was a storyline and nobody was happy about it.
Speaker 7: And it was me and Kevin Dillon. We got married
Speaker 7: on the show, and it was like a whole thing.
Speaker 7: And then the next year it came back, and they
Speaker 7: still didn't make me a series regular. They brought on
Speaker 7: Titus well Over and they were like, sorry, you know,
Speaker 7: we don't we don't really have it in the budget,
Speaker 7: but if you want to do the show. So there
Speaker 7: was a lot of a lot of like, well, do
Speaker 7: I hold my ground and say no, I'm not going
Speaker 7: to come back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is so terrifying for actors. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: the thing, it's the worst.
Speaker 5: That's the problem with being an actor is that you're
Speaker 5: so you're so disempowered, you know, you just you always
Speaker 5: feel like you have to you want to be the trooper,
Speaker 5: you know, you want to show up and you want
Speaker 5: to get along, to get along and not make any waves.
Speaker 7: And now do you think that that is because we
Speaker 7: were children actors that we were like, you can't be difficult.
Speaker 5: No, I mean I think it's I think it's probably
Speaker 5: increased because of that, sure, but I think it's it's
Speaker 5: a pressure all actors feel, right Like, I feel like
Speaker 5: all actors feel like like we should be lucky that
Speaker 5: we're there, do you know what I mean? But it's
Speaker 5: also there's many people that want that job.
Speaker 4: You know how hard it is to get the job,
Speaker 4: so you know that going to the next one, You're like,
Speaker 4: I have to start over again.
Speaker 3: If I say no to this job that I've wanted
Speaker 3: to do forever, it's and you.
Speaker 7: May never work again. They may never bring you back
Speaker 7: for anything. You may have ruined your you know, value,
Speaker 7: difficult to work with and your and they know that,
Speaker 7: so they play know that. Yeah, so I think. I mean,
Speaker 7: I don't even know how it would be nowadays, Like
Speaker 7: I can't even imagine having this big of a pool
Speaker 7: to have to tell it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I get it.
Speaker 7: I mean the offers. That's why I stay in my
Speaker 7: horror community because the other stuff is like I went
Speaker 7: to my first premiere. I don't if you guys have
Speaker 7: been to a movie premiere in a while, but I
Speaker 7: went to my first movie premiere in the fall, and
Speaker 7: I'd never seen what a red carpet looks like with
Speaker 7: non actors, like they're all I was like, who are
Speaker 7: these people? There were influencers and TikTokers and YouTubers, and
Speaker 7: I was like, what is going on? I don't know
Speaker 7: who anybody is. There was no one from like Hollywood
Speaker 7: that was there, but they were all in a Hollywood thing.
Speaker 4: So it was.
Speaker 7: It was very, very confusing for me. I've been out
Speaker 7: of it for for a long time. I think it's scary.
Speaker 3: It's scary, it is a terrible story.
Speaker 4: But I thought you were going to start by saying,
Speaker 4: and then Paul Starvino was attacked by a tiger.
Speaker 5: Thank god, every show she gets on, somebody gets attacked
Speaker 5: by a tiger.
Speaker 2: Attacked by a tiger.
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm really glad you mentioned the horror community
Speaker 1: again because our fans and our dear listeners would be
Speaker 1: so upset with us if we did not touch on
Speaker 1: your incredible career that you've now you are just a
Speaker 1: bona fide scream queen, which obviously started with your iconic
Speaker 1: role Jamie Lloyd in both of the original films and
Speaker 1: the remakes. But I want to know, like, what do
Speaker 1: you love about the horror scene? What do you love
Speaker 1: about the horror community?
Speaker 7: Then it's a community, I mean, writer, you know, like
Speaker 7: I love it. It's most like there's it's the only way,
Speaker 7: Like no matter what I do, whether the movie is
Speaker 7: I don't know if I can like it could be
Speaker 7: super say they still they love it because you show
Speaker 7: up and you support it and all of the directors
Speaker 7: are also fanboys.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: You never get anyone that is involved in a horror
Speaker 7: movie that doesn't that isn't there because of the love
Speaker 7: of it, And I just don't find that happens when
Speaker 7: I do other things. The community is amazing and it's
Speaker 7: been able to afford me a normal Ironically enough, the
Speaker 7: same thing that sort of took my childhood, you know,
Speaker 7: and the kid actor thing has given me the freedom
Speaker 7: of my adulthood because I do appearances and make more
Speaker 7: horror movies and do podcasts and all that stuff, And
Speaker 7: it's it's giving me the freedom to just be a
Speaker 7: mom and a normal person and choose movies that I
Speaker 7: want to do, you know, not not have to take
Speaker 7: everything that comes in my way, and not have to
Speaker 7: be in the grind of putting myself on tape and
Speaker 7: running into auditions and doing all that stuff while trying
Speaker 7: to be present for my family. So I think that
Speaker 7: it's they've literally given me my career and my life,
Speaker 7: that horror community, and I owe it to them. It's amazing.
Speaker 5: What's amazing about horror, I mean, what's the reason. One
Speaker 5: of the main reasons is that it's one of the
Speaker 5: few genres that can get financing independently without huge actors attached,
Speaker 5: because every other if you're making a movie independently outside
Speaker 5: of the studio system, the first question is like, well,
Speaker 5: what bankable stars is in it, Whereas in horror they
Speaker 5: don't care. They will just do it because it's a
Speaker 5: good script or because it has a cool twist or whatever.
Speaker 5: And what that means is that like blue collar working
Speaker 5: actors can get jobs and can be like the lead
Speaker 5: role or whatever. And it's so and you know, it's
Speaker 5: like in a weird way, it's it's sort of like
Speaker 5: an ensemble of community.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: It's like they the same people keep working and want
Speaker 5: to work together and get hired again, because it's like
Speaker 5: we're all making a movie for its own sake. We're
Speaker 5: not making a movie to like, you know, just make
Speaker 5: a ton of money or whatever. It's like we have
Speaker 5: our fan base that's built in. We can get the
Speaker 5: financing that's built in. It's just it's a great genre.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: It's kind of the last bastion of the independent film
Speaker 3: where it's always will always.
Speaker 5: If you notice all these film companies, like basically you know, Lionsgate,
Speaker 5: like they build themselves off of horror films.
Speaker 2: That's how every one of them starts.
Speaker 5: It was like with Lionsgate, it was, you know, we
Speaker 5: had Cabin Fever was one of their first big buys,
Speaker 5: and then boom they hit it with the Saw franchise
Speaker 5: that launched them.
Speaker 2: I was like, that launched a member artists in films
Speaker 2: that which project. It's like that's what started them, and
Speaker 2: then they get bought by another company.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: It's like and it's like it just keeps happening that
Speaker 5: these companies basically build their entire the foundation for these
Speaker 5: huge studios off of horror.
Speaker 2: That's the way it goes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because that's it's still making money. I mean, people
Speaker 7: still want to go to the theater, they still want
Speaker 7: to buy it. There's still they still want to buy
Speaker 7: the DVD and all the merch and all of that stuff.
Speaker 7: Like that's still a their megan last year.
Speaker 5: It's so huge, and it's like I just love it
Speaker 5: because I also think that there's something to be said
Speaker 5: for the years that like movies get under your skin
Speaker 5: are when you're like twelve, between twelve and seventeen, and
Speaker 5: like that's the horror movie audience, right, It's like people
Speaker 5: who are like, wait, I can go see a movie
Speaker 5: that I'm not supposed to see or that's going to
Speaker 5: scare me. And like what happens is that you fall
Speaker 5: in love with horror films at that age and then
Speaker 5: it becomes a lifelong thing, and so there's always an
Speaker 5: audience for I.
Speaker 7: Mean, single handedly, that's a perfect way to describe it.
Speaker 7: I truly believe the reason why I've had such a
Speaker 7: career in horror is because I was ten when I
Speaker 7: did Halloween, and that was right around the time that
Speaker 7: people were going they were ten also watching another ten
Speaker 7: year old, so they grew up with me and continue
Speaker 7: to follow and support and then see all the other
Speaker 7: things and that I did because I didn't do a
Speaker 7: horror movie for twenty years in between. Only Urban Legend
Speaker 7: was one that I did in between Halloween five, which
Speaker 7: was nineteen ninety until two thousand and nine. I hadn't
Speaker 7: done two thousand and seven. I'm sorry, I had never
Speaker 7: I done one horror movie. So and then all of
Speaker 7: a sudden I came back for Rob Zombies and as
Speaker 7: a different character. But it like sparked up this whole
Speaker 7: thing again that I went, oh my god, I didn't
Speaker 7: even know that that was still affect, that could still
Speaker 7: be a thing. But you know, like you said, you
Speaker 7: go to see these movies at ten, eleven, twelve thirteen,
Speaker 7: like it makes me feel something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's Halloween five. Were you like in an
Speaker 6: air duct? Ever?
Speaker 1: In an and and someone was, Okay, that's that's the
Speaker 1: reason I don't.
Speaker 6: Like horror movies.
Speaker 2: That's what That's the other way I can go. Right.
Speaker 5: It can traumatize your So you never want to watch
Speaker 5: a horror Okay, You're like, I got to get this
Speaker 5: feeling back to the.
Speaker 2: Rest of the money.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 6: I was, I saw I had never watched a horror movie.
Speaker 1: I was at a slumber party at a girlfriend's house
Speaker 1: and they put it on and I literally was like,
Speaker 1: this is the worst thing ever.
Speaker 6: Why would we ever want to watch somebody like running
Speaker 6: for their life. I was out of breath. I was like,
Speaker 6: I can't do it. I'm I can't watch movies.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would like a laundry shoot. And they it
Speaker 7: was an air conditioning duct that they turned on its side.
Speaker 7: And then I mean listen, back then, I wasn't even
Speaker 7: hardest in there. I was just edged myself in there.
Speaker 7: And they were dabbing. They were like they were like
Speaker 7: holding my arms and lowered me into it, and then
Speaker 7: they were stabbing with a real knife through because they
Speaker 7: wanted to get the knife coming through from below my life.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I know, I know, I know. It's
Speaker 2: your money, man, it's just sitting in the back just
Speaker 2: like ye do it again.
Speaker 7: Exactly exactly. You're fine, You're fine, You're fine running in
Speaker 7: front of moving cars. I just think remember like my
Speaker 7: social my social worker teacher and my mom like being
Speaker 7: so excited that I was going to be doing this
Speaker 7: awesome scene where I was running in front of a
Speaker 7: moving car in the middle of the night and smoke
Speaker 7: and you know, God for I watch it now and
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh my god, I can't even believe that
Speaker 7: like this this was allowed. It's nuts.
Speaker 6: Totally changed live to tell about it.
Speaker 7: Yes, Yes, thank you well, Danielle.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here and sharing all
Speaker 1: of your amazing stories. I loved all I mean, I
Speaker 1: loved all your stories, but especially loved how much you
Speaker 1: remembered like just fun moments from Boy Meets World.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, and it makes me, it makes my heart so warm.
Speaker 1: To know that, Like you said, like one out of
Speaker 1: every ten person, ten people who come up to you
Speaker 1: says boy meets world to you.
Speaker 7: I just I mean, you got a major mark in history,
Speaker 7: you know. I mean, it's it's a big deal. You're
Speaker 7: You're forever gonna be that no matter what, and that's
Speaker 7: a beautiful thing. So I love that you guys are
Speaker 7: doing this and much success, and that you're all still friends.
Speaker 7: I mean, so far, so good, right, so far so good,
Speaker 7: and I wish you I wish you guys the best too,
Speaker 7: So keep going with this and maybe we'll do a
Speaker 7: they'll reboot it and we can all come back and
Speaker 7: do sled. Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's yeah.
Speaker 1: Any of the information you have on time machines or
Speaker 1: time travel actually.
Speaker 7: Funny, funny story. I'll leave you with before before I
Speaker 7: before I go, just a little blip, randomly, I got
Speaker 7: a DM someone slid into my DMS last week. I
Speaker 7: never checked that stuff and it it was Harley Kiner himself.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's like, I I know it's been a while,
Speaker 7: but if you would like to, you know, maybe meet up.
Speaker 7: And he said pictures of himself.
Speaker 2: I was like, I know who you are.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, so that was really lovely.
Speaker 1: It was nice.
Speaker 6: We tried to we tried to have a reunion with you.
Speaker 6: We wanted you to be a part of our live show.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 7: I was like, if you could do it any other day,
Speaker 7: my flight, I was like, oh my god, time earlier
Speaker 7: in the day. But if you do another one any
Speaker 7: other time, I'm more than happy to come and be
Speaker 7: part of your life.
Speaker 6: We will, we would love to have We will make
Speaker 6: it happen for sure.
Speaker 2: So where are you in Texas?
Speaker 7: I'm in Austin right now. Oh great, great, nice, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm out in I'm out in hill country. I'm literally
Speaker 7: there's like longhorn cattle when you pull into my community,
Speaker 7: just cows and dirt, all right, guys, bye bye.
Speaker 6: Oh man, so much fun.
Speaker 3: Her stories are just so funny.
Speaker 6: She said she's gonna write a book, and I'm man,
Speaker 6: she should.
Speaker 3: I'm here should.
Speaker 5: She's one of the I mean, she's just a legend,
Speaker 5: like she's just like it's it's it's such an interesting
Speaker 5: career because she never had that giant breakout, Like she
Speaker 5: really should have had that series, right, Like she should
Speaker 5: have been the star of her own series for years,
Speaker 5: but it never happened, and so she's just been a
Speaker 5: consistently working actress.
Speaker 2: Four it's crazy.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, crazy.
Speaker 3: And she's right, we're all connected. Oh, your girlfriend was
Speaker 3: my friend and your friend.
Speaker 2: Man, every story was like I was living with, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: but we all.
Speaker 6: So funny.
Speaker 1: Man. Can I tell you, guys, we've talked about it
Speaker 1: now a couple of times. The story about pilots and
Speaker 1: how testing works. Can I tell you my worst ever
Speaker 1: Hollywood testing story?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Please?
Speaker 1: So I was testing for an ABC pilot and there's this,
Speaker 1: you know, group of girls that are testing, four or
Speaker 1: five of us, and then there's another girl that's testing
Speaker 1: and she's being kept separate from the rest of us,
Speaker 1: and she just seems a little down. And I didn't know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what kept drawing me to her, but
Speaker 1: I just felt like I wanted to talk to her.
Speaker 1: And so at one point, after some of the other
Speaker 1: girls had gone in, I made my way over to
Speaker 1: where she was sitting and I said, you know, hi,
Speaker 1: how are you? And she was kind of like a
Speaker 1: little skittish, like why are you talking to me? And
Speaker 1: but she started talking to me and I said, you know,
Speaker 1: when did you have your first audition for this, and
Speaker 1: she goes, oh, I did the pilot and they're recasting me.
Speaker 6: But they're they're not sure they want to recast me,
Speaker 6: so they're.
Speaker 2: Testing me again again.
Speaker 1: But not only were they making her test again when
Speaker 1: she had already booked the role and done the pilot,
Speaker 1: but they're making her test again on the same day
Speaker 1: all the other actresses that.
Speaker 2: I make her test again. You already have footage of her.
Speaker 6: You have the pilot. So I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I was heartbroken for her. She wasn't even from town.
Speaker 1: She was out so then she had flown out here.
Speaker 1: They had put her up at the Universal Hotel, the
Speaker 1: Sheridan over there, and I said, I am so sorry,
Speaker 1: and then it was like time for my audition. I
Speaker 1: went in and I did my audition, and when I
Speaker 1: walked out, she she had already been done with her
Speaker 1: She was waiting for a car to come and pick
Speaker 1: her up, and I said, I will take you back
Speaker 1: to your hotel.
Speaker 6: She go in my car. We're talking.
Speaker 1: We really liked each other, and I said, I've never
Speaker 1: meant it more, but like, good luck, I hope you
Speaker 1: get this again. And as she's getting out, of my car.
Speaker 1: Both of our phones ring, and we looked at each
Speaker 1: other and we knew it was like Danielle said, a
Speaker 1: lot of times, you get that answer before you're even
Speaker 1: home or before you're even.
Speaker 2: To your car.
Speaker 1: And she and I looked at each other, and she
Speaker 1: stepped out of my car and answered her phone and
Speaker 1: looked back over her shoulder at me as I answered
Speaker 1: my phone, and she walked in and I drove away
Speaker 1: and I said it was my manager on the phone.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, Danielle, you didn't get it. And I said,
Speaker 1: do you know who got it? I don't care that
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I just need to know is
Speaker 1: it the girl who originally had it? And he said
Speaker 1: she didn't book it either. Oh, And I just thought, well,
Speaker 1: what are we doing?
Speaker 6: What are we doing with ourselves?
Speaker 5: That's so close to a story I have. I was
Speaker 5: testing for a show and one of the guys had
Speaker 5: was was not from l A and was outtown.
Speaker 2: I knew him.
Speaker 5: We had been up against each other for at that point,
Speaker 5: probably three or four roles. This Ben Feldman. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you guys know Ben.
Speaker 2: He's a great actor.
Speaker 5: So Ben Ben, I was like, Ben, do you need
Speaker 5: a ride to your hotel after we've tested for the show.
Speaker 5: And he jumps in the car with me and he's
Speaker 5: like yeah, And then we're driving and then his phone
Speaker 5: rings and I'm like, just go ahead and get it.
Speaker 5: Manure Adam Sandler had was producing the show, and they're like,
Speaker 5: we need you to come back so you can meet
Speaker 5: with Adam.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I'll drive you back to me
Speaker 2: with Adam. Good luck Ben all the time.
Speaker 6: Well, I love what we do.
Speaker 2: I love it podcasting, not acting. I podcast.
Speaker 3: Wow.
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