WEBVTT - Danielle Harris Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys remember the thumb ring I used to wear.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a Yin yang thumb ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wore it't for like years, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little superstitious about it, even though I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like a superstitious type of person. And then I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I just decided I no longer cared about it at

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<v Speaker 1>all and ripped it off and have never thought about

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<v Speaker 1>it again. I have no idea what happened to her,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we had this spin.

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<v Speaker 4>I had spinny rings. Anybody else like you'd fidget with them?

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<v Speaker 4>That was like the original fidget spinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a little sent.

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<v Speaker 5>That makes sense because I would totally do that because

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<v Speaker 5>I always if I had a ring, I'd taken it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a big I was. I was big into

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<v Speaker 2>mood rings. I had a ring for years. While what

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<v Speaker 2>do you say about me? I was just mopey back then.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it wasn't just that back then.

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<v Speaker 4>So yesterday, you know, as everybody knows, we're we've got

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<v Speaker 4>some live shows coming up and some stuff to do.

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<v Speaker 4>So we have somebody that comes and helps us. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I have somebody that comes and helps me dress myself.

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<v Speaker 4>That we met from Danielle and we were all we

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<v Speaker 4>also and we're seeing what they look like. And she

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<v Speaker 4>held up a picture of what's Rider's wearing and she

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<v Speaker 4>looked at me and she.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, why doesn't he smile?

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<v Speaker 6>And it's a picture of Rider dress just really nicely

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<v Speaker 6>with this face.

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<v Speaker 3>On, Like, I can't believe I have to wear clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't smile for pictures? Is that crazy?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, do you not like I smile life?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't I just smiling?

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<v Speaker 7>You laugh?

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<v Speaker 3>You're easy to laugh.

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<v Speaker 5>And but but I think, yeah, I think at some

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<v Speaker 5>point I learned to just not make any expression. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and our and our promotions for Punmets World, they look

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<v Speaker 5>like I'm gonna kill somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, I have jump off.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, man, I guess there's all those teen magazine sheets.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It got me into the idea that like, if I

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<v Speaker 2>smiled too much, I just looked young.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, no, well that must.

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<v Speaker 4>Work, because when I noticed pictures myself now, and I've

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<v Speaker 4>been smiling and laughing my whole life, and I smile

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<v Speaker 4>and the whole top half of my face just wrinkles up.

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<v Speaker 3>Like alrighty, like hi, it's oh yeah, man, I earned those.

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<v Speaker 3>I earn those lines. I earned those.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh boyl boy rider, Why did you do your background

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<v Speaker 8>just like Danielle?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you decided I.

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<v Speaker 5>Snuck into Danielle's house took a photo grab. No, my,

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<v Speaker 5>just every time we should do that.

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<v Speaker 6>No, aud I am at.

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<v Speaker 2>At Danielle official and uh Jensen carp husband, producer of

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, producer husband of this podcast. I'm at their

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<v Speaker 2>house right now because we were going to do a

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<v Speaker 2>shoot later today. I get the I get the special chair,

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<v Speaker 2>I get the host chair. Yeah, I'm the host.

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<v Speaker 1>Put spot so that he didn't have to sit in

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<v Speaker 1>some janky corner of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I would totally take a corner.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>You look great though. To hold up today's paper, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 4>so we know you're safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Here it is.

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<v Speaker 6>My notes for today's show. I promise I'm fine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, what an exciting day we have. Welcome to pod

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<v Speaker 1>meets World. I'm Daniel Fischl, I'm right or strong, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Wilfredell. So today's guest is someone who, during our

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<v Speaker 1>podcast rewatch of season two just absolutely blew us away.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, looking back, we are still children flailing as actors.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this seasoned veteran came in and showed us

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<v Speaker 1>how it's really done, so much so we wondered why

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't come back beyond one episode or even get

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<v Speaker 1>her own spinoff. She is a legit iconic Scream queen

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<v Speaker 1>and an inductee into the Fangoria Hall of Fame, appearing

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<v Speaker 1>in What So's So Cool?

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<v Speaker 2>I subscribe to Fangoria when I was a kid?

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<v Speaker 3>So really cool?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah it's yeah, it's pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>She is.

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<v Speaker 1>She has appeared in four installments in the Halloween franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>including Halloween four and five. In the late eighties as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, She's starred in the movies like Marked for Death,

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<v Speaker 1>Don't Tell Mom, The Babysitter's Dead, The Last Boy, Scout,

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<v Speaker 1>Free Willie, and Daylight, alongside another Boy Meets World alumni

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<v Speaker 1>Trina McGee. She was also the voice of Debbie Thornberry

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<v Speaker 1>in the long running Wild Thornberry's and Here are just

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<v Speaker 1>some of her endless TV credits. One Life to Live

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<v Speaker 1>at Age Seven, Spencer for Hire, Eerie Indiana, a recurring

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<v Speaker 1>role on Roseanne, Charmed, The West Wing, and psych and

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<v Speaker 1>she was even recently seen in Quentin Tarantino's Once Upon

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<v Speaker 1>a Time in Hollywood. But today we will focus on

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<v Speaker 1>one twenty two minute sitcom episode called Sister Teresa in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety four, where she brilliantly played Harley's badass sister TK.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's please welcome Danielle Harris.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, y hi, hi, we'd like to yell people into

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<v Speaker 3>our podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, is that somebody behind you? What is that?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's one of the monsters from one of the movies,

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<v Speaker 7>but he's in different outfits. He's like Victor Crowley from Hatchet,

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<v Speaker 7>but he's wearing the Jason mask and she's holding them

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<v Speaker 7>Michael Meyer's head, you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>It's so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Are you?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you afraid of scary movies?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I'm just I can't watch them without picking them apart,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, and like see everything like oh they did

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<v Speaker 7>that really well or oh she did that really poorly,

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<v Speaker 7>or you know, like right, make it just like Knoppy bias.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>You just directed your first Was it your first feature?

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<v Speaker 7>I did, but it was that was like two that

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<v Speaker 7>that was like about twelve years ago. I'm still working

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<v Speaker 7>on and I know you were actually going to do something,

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<v Speaker 7>and then I think it didn't. You did do it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>there was something else I thought came through that you

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<v Speaker 7>might have been directing that I was trying to like

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<v Speaker 7>swoop in, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>What to end up happening. Daniel up against each other.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, I wanted.

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to be in your movie you were directing.

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<v Speaker 6>How exciting, I wonder. Yeah, so probably wasn't classmates. Was

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<v Speaker 6>it classmates? Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>No, it was something else. But I think maybe your

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<v Speaker 7>mom told me about something. And then I was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 7>your mom has done my hair before.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, Oh that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>She did tell me that my mom is a makeup

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<v Speaker 1>artist and a hairdresser.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's right. She told me that she You guys

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<v Speaker 6>work together.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 7>What a small ess.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the smallest world every time.

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<v Speaker 6>Come on, it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow. Okay, so we're all intertwined, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure you kind of understand that we are

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<v Speaker 1>basically watching Boy Meets World for what feels like the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, because even if we saw it when it

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<v Speaker 1>was originally on in the nineties, we have barely seen

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<v Speaker 1>it since, and so one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 1>like most just awe inspiring moments for us rewatching was

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<v Speaker 1>your episode of Boy Meets World, Sister Teresa, you are

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<v Speaker 1>so incredible, okay, so incredible, Like it really just put

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<v Speaker 1>us all to shame.

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<v Speaker 2>We were like, you come on the show and the

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<v Speaker 2>show becomes yours.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh this is its own, this is its own show.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what's crazy is that I've only I've after

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<v Speaker 7>I did that episode. I never did another sitcom, another

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<v Speaker 7>live audience show until I came back on The Conners

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<v Speaker 7>last year. It had been thirty years since.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that my choice? Did you actually say like that?

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<v Speaker 7>No? No, but I just couldn't get cast in anything.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. I just I just started doing more

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<v Speaker 7>dramatic stuff. But I much prefer Actually, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I couldn't do what you guys did that learning all

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<v Speaker 7>that after that many years and a date like, forget

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<v Speaker 7>about it. There's no way my brain can't retain, at

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<v Speaker 7>my age anymore that that much dialogue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is a lot of dialogue. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I could do it now either. I know when

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<v Speaker 1>we were kids it was so easy, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even sure. I'm not sure it was the girl you

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<v Speaker 1>just did it like five year years ago Okay, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>but you didn't have kids yet.

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<v Speaker 7>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true. That's the difference you get. Just man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's dad brain too, right too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's like a whole part of your brain is

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<v Speaker 5>just always occupied, just always worried, always occupied.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, adding it to the list.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, can you tell us how that episode came about

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<v Speaker 1>for you?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you remember your audition? Like, tell us everything about that.

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<v Speaker 7>So the show was such a big deal in our

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<v Speaker 7>you know at that time when it was second season

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<v Speaker 7>and I had actually auditioned that particular episode. Was my

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<v Speaker 7>thirteenth time going to producers for your show. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 7>I know I would.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought maybe you just got offered the part because

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<v Speaker 5>you were so well established, because I mean, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I totally assume that they like basically wrote the part

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<v Speaker 5>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, thirteenth thirteenth time for just that role.

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<v Speaker 7>Or no show.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you had auditioned to be every girl on our

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<v Speaker 5>show up until that point.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, and I kept feeling like at some point, like

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<v Speaker 7>I kept seeing in the waiting room, like the girls

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<v Speaker 7>the same twelve girls started and then like one would

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<v Speaker 7>disappear because she would get that week and then the

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<v Speaker 7>next episode that girl would disappear from the producer session.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the same of us young actress that was it.

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<v Speaker 7>So I finally I was like, oh, maybe there's a

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<v Speaker 7>shot now, and then that one came up and it

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<v Speaker 7>was so apparent once I once I got those sides

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<v Speaker 7>that I was like, Oh, I can get this one.

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<v Speaker 6>This is like, you know, this is.

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<v Speaker 7>This is kind of me more or less than the

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<v Speaker 7>other characters I'd auditioned four So but yeah, thirteenth time.

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<v Speaker 7>Thirteenth time was a charm and I had known so

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<v Speaker 7>I had known David Traynor, producer director, because he directed

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<v Speaker 7>a pilot that I did about two years before that

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<v Speaker 7>with Ryan O'Neill, so I kind of knew him. So

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<v Speaker 7>when he was in the room this time, I was like, oh, yay,

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<v Speaker 7>he's gonna like be nice to me and give me notes.

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<v Speaker 1>A familiar face who knows that what I'm capable of.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I directed and all those things.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes that wants to take a minute to sort of

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<v Speaker 7>work with me. And then you know, rewatching the episode,

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<v Speaker 7>which I did last night, I'm so Harley Kiner's sister,

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<v Speaker 7>like right, you know, like I was actually a little

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<v Speaker 7>surprised after like years later, I was, you know, of

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<v Speaker 7>course watched it for many years after our episode, and

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<v Speaker 7>and I thought, God, I totally should have come back

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<v Speaker 7>and like been his girlfriend. I could have used some

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<v Speaker 7>fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what we said. We said, this is a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>We really want to see where this goes. Especially seeing

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<v Speaker 1>you in the Matthew's kitchen in that tag where you

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<v Speaker 1>are just so you just so stand out with that family.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, this relationship really should have gone somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually discussed it. You were so you were working

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<v Speaker 1>so much during that time. We actually discussed whether or not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they would have definitely like wanted you to,

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<v Speaker 1>but you wouldn't have been available for us.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh dude, I totally would have done it. Oh yeah, No.

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<v Speaker 7>That was actually the time that I was just kind

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<v Speaker 7>of getting out of the child actor phase and really

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<v Speaker 7>slowly starting to get into the team. So I was.

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<v Speaker 7>I struggled during that time for a little bit right

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<v Speaker 7>after that, where I had a hard time getting jobs.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think that you know, I cut my hair

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<v Speaker 7>and I put on weight, and I was like rebelling

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<v Speaker 7>against all the things that Hollywood was pretending to be

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<v Speaker 7>at that time when yeah, you know, all the girls

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<v Speaker 7>weighed like eighty pounds and that was like the thing,

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<v Speaker 7>and I just I just wasn't that. I wasn't WB

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<v Speaker 7>or whatever the hell that was at that ty material.

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<v Speaker 7>So so I didn't work for a little bit or

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<v Speaker 7>I struggled to get steps. So I totally would have

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<v Speaker 7>would have come back. And I know when you guys

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<v Speaker 7>did Girl Mats World, I was like, Oh, now's my chance.

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<v Speaker 7>The way everybody back and then yeah, yeah, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I that didn't happen either, But uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder, I wonder how much of it also had

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the fact that Danny didn't really come

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<v Speaker 1>back too much longer, you know, Danny.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, yeah, possibly. I also think there were so

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<v Speaker 7>many girls that they wanted to have on the show.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe for them that it just was like, oh, we'll

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<v Speaker 7>see if that comes about. Let's let's keep bringing on

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<v Speaker 7>new people and keep it fresh until, you know, until

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<v Speaker 7>they needed to do something else, right, we do.

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<v Speaker 3>We always talk about though.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things we had a big discussion about

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<v Speaker 4>after we watched the episode was the path not taken

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<v Speaker 4>and just the dynamic of adding your character into the

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<v Speaker 4>friend group, you know, seeing an episode with TK and Tipanga,

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<v Speaker 4>in an episode where maybe TK and Sean started.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you could have gone a whole different way

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<v Speaker 3>with the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're talking about inventing a time machine, and we

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<v Speaker 4>realized the first thing we have to do is actually

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<v Speaker 4>invent it. So if you have any plans or know

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<v Speaker 4>anything about that, super helpful.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, I just actually was watching something I

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<v Speaker 7>just interviewed for our show. I interviewed Jamie Kennedy last week,

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<v Speaker 7>and he and I had done this show for Disney

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<v Speaker 7>and ABC called Oh God No, I'm Forgetting It Hollywood Lives,

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<v Speaker 7>and it was like a reality show that was focused

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<v Speaker 7>on There was like seven or eight of us that

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<v Speaker 7>this crew followed us around on all of our jobs

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<v Speaker 7>and all of our auditions. And I actually was doing

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<v Speaker 7>this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I've seen this, yeah, this to us.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, after our podcast episode came out, people sent this

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<v Speaker 5>to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was really so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean now, like I can't imagine how nerve racking

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<v Speaker 7>that must have been for me to have only done

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<v Speaker 7>one other sitcom essentially before coming onto your show, and

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<v Speaker 7>then having this camera crew like follow my every move

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<v Speaker 7>and oh my god, I don't know how. I don't

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<v Speaker 7>know how we did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought it up because we actually have

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<v Speaker 1>a clip from Hollywood Lives.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's play it now so we can discuss.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, since.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been this business since I was four or five

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<v Speaker 7>years old, I feel like I have grown up too fast.

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<v Speaker 6>Thing I missed it on going to high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been in a high school since ninth grade.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm already a senior miss and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always wanted to be a cheerleader.

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<v Speaker 6>You know we're now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because I didn't have that.

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<v Speaker 7>I like, I go.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to go to the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be a cheerleader.

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to be on the yearbook, to mean, I

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<v Speaker 6>want to do all these things.

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<v Speaker 7>Didn't get a chance to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is that?

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<v Speaker 7>That isn't even salad?

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<v Speaker 6>I know, such a little girl voice.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, that's crazy. I still want to do

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<v Speaker 7>all that stuff, but I didn't get Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>we're all kid after so you have when you finally

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<v Speaker 7>have your own family, you're able to go back and

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<v Speaker 7>do all of those things that you couldn't do. Like

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<v Speaker 7>my kids, you know, I'm out, Like we moved. I

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<v Speaker 7>moved to the country because I've got two boys, and

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<v Speaker 7>like we go camping and we ride dirt bikes, and

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<v Speaker 7>we go in the lake and like all those things

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<v Speaker 7>that we weren't I particularly wasn't allowed to do because

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<v Speaker 7>I couldn't get hurt. You know, we were working and

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<v Speaker 7>there was no time for any of that stuff. So

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<v Speaker 7>that's really important to me as I now am able

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<v Speaker 7>to sort of do it over again with with kids.

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<v Speaker 7>But how sad I still didn't go to prom.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so funny to talk about. I mean, we talked

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<v Speaker 5>so with so many child actors, and it's always seems

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<v Speaker 5>to be like all we all craved was normalcy, right,

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<v Speaker 5>like whatever that was. And then of course when we

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<v Speaker 5>were in those normal situations, if we got lucky enough,

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<v Speaker 5>all anybody would do is like point us out as

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<v Speaker 5>like you're the person on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Which we hated.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And it's like that's why we all hated being

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<v Speaker 5>things like as long as we liked the work, we

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<v Speaker 5>didn't we wanted to be able to like flip a switch,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and just be like go back to normal.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think that's why a lot of us were

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<v Speaker 7>we stayed friends with each other or we rolled in

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<v Speaker 7>the same group because nobody ever talked about what they

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<v Speaker 7>were working on. Nobody ever talked about anything. But I

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<v Speaker 7>know we were all eighteen and like owned our own

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<v Speaker 7>homes or like close to it, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>that's nuts to think about all that. And we also

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<v Speaker 7>grew up in Hollywood in the nineties. Like I can't

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<v Speaker 7>imagine what these kids have to go through now. We

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<v Speaker 7>we got out just in time, I mean, just in life,

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<v Speaker 7>by the nit.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>I said about my marriage too, I'm like, I married

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<v Speaker 7>you before the dating apps, thank god, because that could

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<v Speaker 7>have been a breaking disaster, you know. So I think

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<v Speaker 7>that's the same thing. Like we we really we we

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<v Speaker 7>had it really good in Hollywood in the nineties. At

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<v Speaker 7>least I did. None of us like went down that

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<v Speaker 7>dark that dark path that we could have gone down. Thankfully. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely. Today we announce our biggest undertaking yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Pod Meets World is going on the road with a

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<v Speaker 5>We are thrilled to be traveling the country, eating regional

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that might be too much.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk a lot too, especially when we talk to child.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever experience and it sounds like you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever experience any type of like burnout where

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<v Speaker 1>you were like, that's it, I'm done, i don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this anymore. I'm just gonna go away. And

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<v Speaker 1>if so, what was that like for you? And when

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<v Speaker 1>did it happen? What sparked it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>Girl, it's still happening. But I think I moved to Texas.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't stand Hollywood. Yeah, I mean I think it

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<v Speaker 7>really was around the transition period where I was no

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<v Speaker 7>longer and I'm still going through. You know, I'm forty

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<v Speaker 7>six and when I get calls, which never really happens,

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<v Speaker 7>but if I do, it's for you know, an episodic

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<v Speaker 7>where I'm playing it's like forty five to fifty five,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm like, I'm never going to get this. I

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<v Speaker 7>just feel so dumb. And I think that around that

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<v Speaker 7>period too, I just felt like I couldn't quite find

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<v Speaker 7>my thing. I always played kind of the tough girl,

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<v Speaker 7>but they were I wasn't like the lead. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>quite like the sidekick. I was sort of in between.

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<v Speaker 7>So I was just like, I'm done. I'm cutting my hair,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gaining weight, I'm doing that I want to do.

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<v Speaker 7>I got my real estate license. I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>going to do this. I'm going to try something totally different.

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<v Speaker 7>That lasted for about a month, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>I hate this. I don't want to do this anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>This is awful. Everyone thinks I'm like fifteen trying to

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<v Speaker 7>sell them a house. So I just kind of dug

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<v Speaker 7>my heels into the horror community, which really was the

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<v Speaker 7>only thing that welcomed me back and gave me those,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, those lead roles that I wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 7>get doing any other genre. I was able to like

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<v Speaker 7>flex my acting muscles and really carry a film and

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<v Speaker 7>not have to be on this a list, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 7>So I sort of went, well, maybe I should sort

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<v Speaker 7>of lean into that and not worry so much about

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<v Speaker 7>I got to be on a show. I got to

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<v Speaker 7>be series regular, and I need to be in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 7>I need to do this and that, because that wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>paying the bills anyway, right, I mean, I definitely do

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<v Speaker 7>better financially because of the horror community. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 7>directing court like that. World is unbelievable. And it's also

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<v Speaker 7>like the pop culture. I mean, it's the it's the

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<v Speaker 7>same thing. It's the kids of the nineties, Like there

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<v Speaker 7>are age now. When I do these appearances, it's not

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<v Speaker 7>young kids. It's like everybody our age. Everybody comes up

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<v Speaker 7>to me at a horror convention and I would say

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<v Speaker 7>one out of every ten people are talk about boy

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<v Speaker 7>muse world Wow constantly, constantly, constantly. I love it. I

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<v Speaker 7>even have the picture on my table.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's so great.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, this is this is I mean, that's just

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<v Speaker 7>what we It feels good, you know, nostalgia. And I

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<v Speaker 7>think this may maybe I shouldn't go about this, but

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<v Speaker 7>I know when like Girl Meets World came back and

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<v Speaker 7>they were starting bring kind of some people back again,

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<v Speaker 7>and and I thought, God, they're missing they're missing something

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<v Speaker 7>here because who they think is watching it's not who's watching.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, they're aiming for the kids. They're aiming for eleven

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<v Speaker 5>thirteen year olds, and you're like, no.

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<v Speaker 7>No, they're on they're on YouTube. They're not. They're not,

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<v Speaker 7>They're not.

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<v Speaker 5>Should have a show. It should have been it should

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<v Speaker 5>have been a grown up ABC show about being parents,

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<v Speaker 5>and it.

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<v Speaker 7>Would have it would have gone in two seconds because

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<v Speaker 7>you had you had all the audience back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why Fuller House worked. I mean, it's exactly

0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.680
<v Speaker 3>why full House the same thing. So, yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>Back in the day, though, you did some of the

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<v Speaker 4>greatest films. I mean, you were in some stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>I mean one after another of just it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you putting Marked for Death?

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<v Speaker 7>As the.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell, yes i am.

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:28.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm putting things that mattered to me.

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<v Speaker 5>I never seen Mark for Death. But before we got

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<v Speaker 5>to you, it was like, which one is that? Because

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<v Speaker 5>there's all those like movies that have the same name,

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<v Speaker 5>but they're just like Mark for Death, the how is

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<v Speaker 5>it the como to kill?

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<v Speaker 3>That's yeah, no, but you did. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 3>that in the Last Boy Scout.

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<v Speaker 4>There were films that were were you know, one or two, three,

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<v Speaker 4>four after another that were just phenomenally which were big budgets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, big budget.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean those don't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean not to that extent.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, is there one that stands out for

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<v Speaker 4>you that from back in the day that really kind

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<v Speaker 4>of was an amazing experience or an experience at least

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<v Speaker 4>that you I mean, don't tell mom.

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<v Speaker 7>The Babysitters Dead was probably like one of the only

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<v Speaker 7>movies that I've done still where they really made a

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<v Speaker 7>point to allow us to be kids on Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>we had like Nintendo and the trailer we had. We

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<v Speaker 7>were able to go swimming during lunch like that never

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 7>happens where they're like, go in the pool, you guys,

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<v Speaker 7>go swimming. We'll dry your hair after to go back

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<v Speaker 7>to work.

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<v Speaker 6>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So Steve and Herrick was really good about making

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<v Speaker 7>sure that we were just kids, and I think it shows.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say that really plays on camera with

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<v Speaker 4>my boy Keith Coogan, who was the greatest guys in the.

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<v Speaker 3>World, So I love him. He's amazing film. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>that I guess that.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean The Last Boy Scout too. I think I

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<v Speaker 7>really didn't know how big that movie was until I

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<v Speaker 7>got much older. There's actually a scene in that movie

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<v Speaker 7>where it probably took me ten years to rewatch it

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<v Speaker 7>again once I got older and watch this audition scene

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<v Speaker 7>and there was a line that I had in the

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:06.200
<v Speaker 7>movie where I remembered not knowing what it meant when

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 7>I said it, but it's still was funny. And the

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<v Speaker 7>line was, I'm doing this scene where Damon WANs is

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<v Speaker 7>meeting me for the first time and we're in the

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<v Speaker 7>living room and he's got a shaved head, but his

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<v Speaker 7>hair shows a number in the back of his head, right,

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 7>so he's bald, but this like hair number thirteen or whatever.

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 7>And the line is like, Hey, what's that number in

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.920
<v Speaker 7>the back of your head? Is that like a license

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<v Speaker 7>plate in case somebody tries to steal it? And he says, no,

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:33.680
<v Speaker 7>it's my high school number. And I say, oh, so

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<v Speaker 7>when do you graduate? And stupid, honestly, I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 7>that I was making a joke of the fact that

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<v Speaker 7>he's obviously in his thirties. Yes, I was saying that

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<v Speaker 7>he was seventeen. And I mean, it literally took me

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:52.479
<v Speaker 7>a decade to go, oh, that's no yet at thirteen,

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 7>you don't know what the hell you're saying. But as

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<v Speaker 7>long as they're laughing, it's all that matters.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no. We talk about on Boy Meets World the

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<v Speaker 5>amount of references that they had, especially like fifties references

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 5>or even like earlier no clue, like we had no clue,

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 5>and like still to this day, those are usually the

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<v Speaker 5>only references I have to those references.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, yeah, there was a pointys worldline about that.

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 5>And I said it, but I don't know what family

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<v Speaker 5>matter or what was the one that We've also had

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 5>guest stars like will you always point out like so

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 5>and so was on our show from love Bote, I'm like,

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 5>no idea.

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what love boat is. I don't know

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 2>who that was. But I worked with them for a week,

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's also stuff that still went over your head.

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:27.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we watch an episode the other day where

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<v Speaker 4>Danielle and I like, this episode starts with an erection joke,

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:32.919
<v Speaker 4>and right where who doesn't.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like, what are you talking about the blood flowing?

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 8>Talking about blood flowing as your kids, that's an erection joke.

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 8>He's like, oh, I I probably didn't get it back

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:43.479
<v Speaker 8>then either, yea at all.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe that's what makes it so endearing you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>for sure, and actually so writer. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>worked with your brother on a pilot. I don't know

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 7>if you know the track it was. It was called

0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 7>odd Man Out and it was Shiloh was This Star

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 7>and Hi Hillary Swink was made to show.

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<v Speaker 5>Meredith Sallenger Sallenger Man and you know they redid that

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 5>show after. The writers of that show were Ed Dector

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 5>and John Strauss, who came on to Boy Meets World

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 5>and then they had huge success with There's Something About Mary,

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 5>so they got to make whatever they wanted and they

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 5>went back and did odd Man Out over again with

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 5>a new generation.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think it was on ABC, like T or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It came on, Yeah, and that lasted I think only

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<v Speaker 2>a season or two.

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 3>But I was on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that that's the one you went and

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 5>guested on when I was on show. But you know

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 5>that pilot was so that was a good pilot, That's right.

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 5>I forgot that you were in that with him.

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<v Speaker 7>What a cast.

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 4>That was? That was.

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 5>Chila was supposed to do that show, and when that

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 5>show didn't get picked up, they offered him the Mommies

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 5>or they wanted to network him for Boy Meets World.

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.880
<v Speaker 5>To be Will's character, and he chose the job because

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 5>he didn't want to have to test again, so we

0:25:57.600 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 5>just took the job on the Mommies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you for a whole other way.

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 7>I Will obviously like Will, I know you. I met

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 7>you through Jenna. Yeah, you know back and actually you

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 7>were living in the building with jenevan Oi. Right, did

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 7>she got an apartment there?

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I writer, did you? It was just very

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>close with Jenna. Jenna and I spent so much time together.

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 1>She was a few years older than me, and I

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 1>just thought she was the coolest ever Toyota.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, oh my.

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 6>Own, Oh my god. I was such a fan.

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 4>But that's what we bonded over on our first date

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:37.880
<v Speaker 4>because she took me out to she was like interviewing

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 4>me like you did Danielle for like sixteen magazine or

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 4>something like that.

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 3>She was doing those as well, and we went out

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 3>and we both said, oh, we're both I'm from Connecticut.

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I'm from.

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Connecticut, and as well, I have a Toyota Celica. She's like,

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 3>I have a Toyota Cela.

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 2>And it was like the end of that night we

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>were dating.

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, listeners who don't know. We're talking about jenavon Oy,

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>who we all have a connection to on this. So

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>that's so that's are you guys still friends?

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean I saw her. I did a show

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 7>in Nashville like two years ago, and I called her

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 7>and we took our kids out to breakfast. Yeah, she

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 7>is awesome. We still kind of look like we could

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 7>be sister. I mean, I know, you know five ft

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 7>all of us.

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I know, when you're a child actor man being short, it's.

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 7>A bonus's yeah, it's true.

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>So going back to your week on Boy Meets World,

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>what do you remember, if anything, about either Blake or

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 1>or Danny Ethan? What do you remember about that week?

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 7>So this is actually funny. So I had the biggest

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 7>crush on Blake and I don't know if so I

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 7>had a crush on Blake and he was friends with

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 7>a mutual friend of mine, god, Heidi Lucas and another

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 7>child actor. And I'm sure if you saw her you

0:27:57.960 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 7>would remember. I have a seen since I was probably

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 7>like my teen, but I think I met Blake on

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 7>your show and then I was like, oh my god,

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 7>he's so cutie, so cute. She's like, oh my god,

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.719
<v Speaker 7>he's my friend. And that was back in the day

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 7>where there was three way calling where you could like

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 7>not know the other person was on silent. You'd like

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 7>click click them on on your phone. And and Heidi

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 7>called Blake after the show and said, hey, you know,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 7>so he worked with my friend at Ellen.

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 2>What do you think of her?

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 7>And he was like, oh, she's really nice and he's

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 7>being really pecy about it. And then they ended up

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 7>hanging up and I was still on and then you know,

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 7>her and I talked like, oh my god, oh my god,

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 7>a wonderful go out with me, blah blah blah. And

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 7>then at some point I heard I don't know, maybe

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 7>I will, and I was like, he never hung up

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 7>the phone.

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh, karma, man, that's karma. That was

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 5>like you were trying to trick him and he got you.

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 7>Of course, I immediately just hung up the phone. And

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 7>then they never I never saw him and never talked

0:28:58.920 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 7>about it ever again.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh no.

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 7>Freaked out. Well, I mean I had I had a

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 7>great time, you know, it was it was really one

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 7>of the Again, I I had just done Roseanne, so

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 7>I didn't have I'd never been on another show where

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 7>where there were other kids my age essentially, and you

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 7>guys were great and obviously all friends and got along

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 7>and it was warm and welcoming, and it gave me

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 7>the freedom to just play I had. I had a

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 7>great time, so and I mean it didn't work out

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 7>between Blake and I. But you know, and Danielle, you

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 7>weren't on the show. I think you were just there

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 7>doing school. You weren't on that episode.

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd be surprised if I was even there doing school

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>because I always went back to my regular school. Okay, right,

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>So on weeks that I wasn't in the show, I

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even on set. So yeah, it was such a

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>bummer because watching the episodes then that I'm not in,

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm always like, oh man, I bet that was I

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>want to be there for the behind the scenes stuff.

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>But also I was so rooting to see more of

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>your character, and yet had your character really taken off there,

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>we probably wouldn't have really ever crossed paths. But like

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Will said, it's it's such a shame that there wasn't

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>like a different version of the show where we could

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>have the show that we have, because that's great in

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and of itself. But then also I want to travel

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>through all the different lines and lives and all the

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>different storylines we could have had if we had just

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>kept more characters around or never let people go.

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, it's so much fun.

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 7>A bunch of my friends actually messaged me after hearing

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 7>I guess you guys talked about the fourth sister, Sister

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 7>Teresa not too long ago, and everybody was taught and

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 7>messing me like, they're talking about.

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 6>You, but why are you gonna be on the show?

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 7>And I was like, I'm supposed to be on What

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 7>do you mean we're talking about it? I thought I

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 7>was going to do the episode and then they're like,

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 7>oh no, no, you guys do it in two different parts.

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I was happy about that.

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 4>It was we were all just so blown away with

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 4>how much more advanced as an actor you just seemed

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 4>than the rest of us, and so to then kind

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 4>of now retroactively hear that this was the second time

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 4>you'd ever done a sick time.

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just the whole thing is so yeah.

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 5>But but she've been working and she they were four

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 5>or five. Yeah, five, you had so much experience and

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 5>you had done had you done a soap already?

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 2>At this point.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I did a soap for two years. Then I

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 7>started doing film and then Movie of the Weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>When that was say, seems like soaps are like a

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 5>great thing for young actors, because the same thing with

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 5>Lindsay Price, like she walked onto our set and was like,

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 5>I can do tears.

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>You need tears and it was like those Yeah, and

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 2>she had.

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 5>Done years on a soap, and it's like, wow, what

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 5>a proving ground, you know, because you just have to

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 5>do you know, five episodes a day or whatever.

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like you just get that muscle and.

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 3>You just learn it, so you you don't have time

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 3>to get into your character to start crying. You just

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 3>have to start crying.

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 7>It's just and I still don't have time, you know.

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 7>I do like indie horror, so there's still like three seconds,

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 7>twelve you know, twelve pages and eighteen pages a day,

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 7>just in complete insanity. But I think I think I

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 7>I enjoyed your show so much because coming from Roseanne,

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 7>I had a heart. I struggled a lot on that show.

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 7>I had a hard time, you know, the writing. My

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 7>character on that show was always the one that set

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 7>up the jokes for Sarah Gilbert like I was always

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 7>like I never got I never left an episode feeling

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 7>like I did a good job, Like I never got

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 7>the laugh, I never got the direction or the attention.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.239
<v Speaker 7>It was always do this so we can then make

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 7>her this interesting. So I had a harder time. So

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 7>I think coming back coming to years, I was like,

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 7>oh my god, this is how it could be if

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 7>I just had a little bit of of reassurance and

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 7>you know, positive reinforcement, and and I was given funny

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 7>stuff to say.

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 2>And do you know, episode is yours. It's basically just

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Ben reacting to you. That's the entire episode.

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 5>It's like you come in like a tornado and the

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 5>whole show has to like reorient itself around you. It's amazing,

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 5>but it takes such confidence for that age to be

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 5>able to think.

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 4>You were finding things that maybe wouldn't have been funny

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 4>with anybody else. That was the other thing is you

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 4>were making things where it was like, oh, another actor

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 4>probably wouldn't have gone that route and it wouldn't have

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 4>found the same joke. Yeah, yeah, that was That was

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 4>very impressive with that. As I was watching and it

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 4>was kind of like, oh, I bet that wasn't on

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 4>the page like that was on and she did that

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 4>on her feet like that was.

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 7>Just been me. Yeah, I mean, I'm you know, I

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.239
<v Speaker 7>grew up in Brooklyn like a kind of like kind

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 7>of was always sort of a tough girl, so I

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 7>think that was Like again, when I read for it,

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 7>I was like, oh I could do this, Oh yeah,

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 7>oh yeah, I got this, this as mine. And then

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 7>I was happy that I didn't get any of the

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 7>other times at that audition because this was a much better,

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 7>more vvorable character being a sister.

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's such a good reminder that, like when when

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>things don't seem like they're working out in your favor,

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>to just remind yourself, like, no, it is working out

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>in my favor. I didn't get the job I want,

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>but it's because the better one, the one that's meant

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>for me, is around the corner.

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 7>And I didn't know, you know, who knows that they

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 7>had they were thinking about bringing somebody on for a

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 7>sister or you know, I don't, I don't know what

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 7>they what they had already had in mind. So I

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 7>was just glad that I got to be a.

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 6>Part of that.

0:33:51.280 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were, like you said, the little bit of

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the kind of like tough girl was so part of

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>your personality. And yet you also mentioned you're five feet tall.

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>You're like a little spitfire, which I just love. But

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you were also a little older than Ben. Oh my god,

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>what do you remember about your dynamic with Ben and

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>working together that week?

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 7>He was petrified of me.

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he That's why it's so good. It's good

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 2>because it was real.

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he really was petrified. I distinctly remember when I

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 7>have to when I like go to kiss him for

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 7>the first time in the I guess like in the

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 7>school school, and every time I would go in to

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 7>do it, it's from rehearsals to like just before we

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.240
<v Speaker 7>were like rolling, he would.

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 6>Like do this, and I kept feeling like scared. He's

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 6>supposed to like me.

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I am coming on a little strong, but

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 7>to be like, oh god, oh god, and like, is

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 7>she gonna kiss me?

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 5>But I think he was fourteen, No, he probably was

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 5>only thirteen. I think he was only thirteen. Yeah, so

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 5>he would have been thirteen and you were like seventeen.

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 7>Or I was almost eighteen.

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're the same aid you and I made. So

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 4>it was Yeah, it was that, But that was always

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 4>Ben Ben.

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did the same thing when I went to

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>go kiss him in the pilot and there in the

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in my first episode, it was a I mean.

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 7>When is that? I was like, Oh, I don't know

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 7>what to do. I remember just looking at David like

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 7>I I'm not.

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 5>Sure it works for the episode though. It makes it

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 5>such a deer in the headlights the entire time.

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 7>When the audience comes in like or like are we

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 7>gonna write to be like this? Or I'm not sure

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 7>is he supposed to want to kiss me back? As

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 7>it totally changes how I'm going to react after that,

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 7>you know, right, I think I like, do something with

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 7>his fuzzy head or something and then walk off all saddy.

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 7>But if he's going to be freaked out, then it

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:55.439
<v Speaker 7>would fall for something else.

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which I just remembered too that you are

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 1>actually wearing a skirt thank you that has the sex

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>pistols font and it just says sex kitten, sex kitten.

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 7>Oh interesting, What the hell was I wearing?

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, but I wanted to ask you. Do

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 6>you remember your wardrobe fittings? Do you remember the clothes?

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 7>Yes? So there's actually a story about that. My best

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 7>guy friend at the time he has passed away since

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 7>I used to be Ben's tennis coach or be on

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 7>the same team that Ben was on, I want to say,

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 7>like bell Air or something or other. And I loved

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 7>that black leather jacket. And I remember leaving him telling

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 7>my friend Adam like, I love this jecket, I love

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.839
<v Speaker 7>this jack I love the jacket. And for Christmas that year,

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 7>I think it was the Christmas birthday, he tracked down

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 7>Ben from he had talked to him in like five

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.919
<v Speaker 7>years or ten years or something, tracked him down through

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 7>a mutual friend or something, and Ben got Adam in

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 7>touch with out of wardrobe and bought that jacket for me,

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 7>which of course I probably got rid of it a

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 7>garage so because I don't have it anymore, but you know, I.

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Hold it up right now that was there.

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 7>It is. I still have my leather Like my leather

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 7>jackets are like something that makes me feel very comfortable

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 7>ering confident. And I noticed like I wear them a lot,

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 7>just in movies. If I have a choice of like

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 7>what I'm going to wear, I'll always bring my own

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 7>or it's like my safety blanket. So so yeah, so

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 7>so Ben helped facilitate me getting that leather jacket from Wardrobe.

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:34.840
<v Speaker 6>Cool, what a wonderful story.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeahs, the rider has the sex kitten skirt.

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kept that.

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Wears a choice. So you've mentioned a few times pilots

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>that you've done. How many pilots have you done? Would

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you say in the course of your career?

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 7>I don't even know, maybe like twenty from Wow. Yeah,

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 7>none of them went literally none of them.

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 6>Actually, okay, I'm.

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 7>Gonna write a book. One day. I had an animated

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 7>what I did an animated series for Nickeoladeon called The

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 7>Wild Thorn Berriers, And then I went on to do

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 7>a show called Uh, Father of the Pride and it

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:26.439
<v Speaker 7>was DreamWorks and it was about Roy, say Freed and Roy,

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 7>but it was the story revolved around the White Lions tigers.

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:37.399
<v Speaker 7>So it was me, John Goodman, Chryl Hines, Uh, oh

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 7>my God, like Eddie Murphy, like everyeople came back on

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 7>did you like Donkeys?

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 6>Budget huge?

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 7>So we recorded for a year. We did thirteen episodes,

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 7>cameras in the rooms and you know, did it was

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 7>all of a sudden, the White Life, you know, she

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 7>looked like me, like starting Okay, it's crazy. And then

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 7>we premiered we we were we premier I think one episode.

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 7>It was the first primetime show like that for NBC.

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 7>We premiered our first show. It was a big hit,

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 7>and then Roy got mauled in real life on stage

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 7>by the Tiger.

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, right, all the time that the Tiger ruined your pilot.

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 7>Well, well we had to go back. We were nominated

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 7>for a People's Choice Award, and we had to go

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 7>back and redo all of these episodes because throughout the

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 7>show we're making fun of Sigfried and Roy, like they're

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 7>very dramatic, they're very flamboyant, and now the jokes are

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 7>just not funny because he's literally fighting for his life. Yeah,

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 7>so we were like, oh, of all the times, the

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 7>one time I get on show, on a primetime show, Like,

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 7>what are the odds of this happening? So my career

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 7>has always been a little bit, a little bit funny

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 7>like that. But one day they'll be there are good

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 7>stories to tell at the end of the day.

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, any other any other pilots that really stand

0:39:57.880 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>out you want to talk about, just ones.

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 7>That I didn't I didn't get that I wish I

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 7>would have, that would have totally changed my career. I

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 7>tested against nev four party of five. Yes, I can

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 7>see that, and I had tested five times before she

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 7>came out from Canada. I even read with all of

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.760
<v Speaker 7>the Baileyes, like I was there. It was like Johnny

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 7>Whitworth and Scott and Scott got were there together. So

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 7>it was like me in network with the two of

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 7>them reading for it, and I was in there for

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 7>their work sessions. And then I went and tested against

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 7>Ashley Lovitt actually for that role, and then they let

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 7>Ashley go and then I came back and the notes

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 7>were they wanted me to be sexier. It was fox right,

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 7>that's the worst. They wanted me to be sexier. But

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 7>the character like she's fifteen. Yeah. The scene that I

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 7>was reading was me talking to Bailey about how I

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.919
<v Speaker 7>liked this boy and I've never had a first kiss

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 7>and I did understand.

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, you only had the sex Kittens truck.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah tell yeah, So I don't mean that character is

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 3>not sexy at all. No, No, I went in. I was.

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 7>I wore like like a dress, like a low cut

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 7>dress and like heels, like what I thought was sexy

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 7>at fifteen, you know, which was so not probably what

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 7>they were looking for. And then I remember Ned came

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 7>in from Canada and she was wearing overalls and a

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 7>tube top and I was but she's much chessier than

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 7>I was. But I was like, I feel like I

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 7>feel so dumb, I mean, like a dress in heels.

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 7>And she was like nineteen. I was sixteen, but I

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 7>was emancipated, but I was still sixteen, and so I

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 7>didn't get it. She got it. But and you know

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 7>at the end when they take you in in groups

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 7>of like here's Group A, and you're like, oh, they

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 7>all look alike, that's the choice. And then you're in

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:56.240
<v Speaker 7>the you're like, yeah, group, So like we need to explain.

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>We need to explain two things for our dear listeners. One,

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about what it means to be emancipated as

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a minor.

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 7>So emancipated basically, when you're under eighteen, there are rules

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 7>that production has to follow, like school, certain hours you

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 7>can work. And they don't like that because they want

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 7>to work you as much as they possibly can and

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 7>it restricts them. So you have to go hire an attorney.

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 3>Like this is what I did.

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:22.479
<v Speaker 7>A hire an attorney, and I had to go before

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 7>a judge and basically say, my grades are this, I

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 7>would like to be considered a legal adult so I

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 7>can have all of the same responsibilities and benefits of

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 7>being a legal adult in the workplace. I was. I

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 7>moved out of my house, I bought a house. I

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 7>mean I was. I was an adult.

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<v Speaker 6>And how old were you when you did that?

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 7>I was almost seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to be sixteen. You can't do it before

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 2>you're sixteen. I did it at sixteen to sixteen.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, we're already adults at that point. Anyway. I mean,

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 7>I guess, thank god we didn't do I mean, I

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 7>don't know. I don't know what happens. I don't know

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 7>how that works, you know, legally, like if we did,

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 7>if we got in trouble at sixteen and we were mancipate,

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:01.479
<v Speaker 7>are we trying?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you are yes adult yea.

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 7>And also it's emancipated.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, you know you never got emancipate it noither.

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 6>My parents were absolutely not.

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 5>I guess, well, you were still on boy. I was

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 5>doing other jobs. I guess I was still on boy too.

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 5>But it was actually, like I remember, it worked for

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 5>for me to be able to go do party five

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 5>because they were one of the companies that were like,

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 5>we don't hire anybody who's not emancipated. So when I was,

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.800
<v Speaker 5>I got emancipated, and then I got you know, of

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 5>recurring on Party of five.

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<v Speaker 7>I wonder if that's still a thing. I mean, I

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 7>don't know what it is. I don't know how things

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 7>work nowadays with these these young'ins, But I mean I'm

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 7>assuming it's still there's still laws and rules and all that.

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't think there are any rules on TikTok.

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 7>No.

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:45.320
<v Speaker 3>You can do whatever you want to do.

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're an influencer, I don't think they're following

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 2>any rules. You know. That's that's what's scary.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 7>Well. I mean, and I could talk to you guys

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 7>for hours about this. I you know, I still have

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 7>a ton of kid actor friends, and and I've talked

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 7>to Keith Coogan forts and lengths about this as well

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 7>as Corey Feldman and everybody about just really trying to

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 7>push the I still can't believe there's only fifteen percent

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 7>taken out of a miner's paycheck in only what five states?

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 7>How is that still only happening in five states?

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 4>And isn't isn't the actual law based around how much

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 4>money you have to save based on Keith's dad, his grandfather,

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 4>He's grandfather, so.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, it's Jackie Koh again, yeah, because he you know

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 7>in the thirties is he lost all of his money

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 7>and I, unfortunately, you know, was one of those similar

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 7>support in my family and turned eighteen and I you know,

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 7>they didn't that wasn't happening. And when I lived in

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 7>New York and I didn't move to LA until I

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 7>was thirteen, almost fourteen, so I only had four years

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 7>essentially of that fifteen percent. And what I think they

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 7>should do is flip it yea and have the majority

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.760
<v Speaker 7>like pay art you know, aar taxes, do all that stuff.

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 7>Give the parents. You know, I think if if there

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:57.399
<v Speaker 7>was seventy five percent on hold, that many more parents

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 7>would not be getting their kids into the entertainment industry

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 7>as cash cows the ones that are doing it for

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 7>the wrong reasons. I think if there was, if there

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 7>was a cap on it and it flipped like that,

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.839
<v Speaker 7>they wouldn't be so inclined to like push their kids

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 7>into the business if they didn't want to be in it,

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 7>which makes.

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<v Speaker 4>More sense because your parents a lot of times are

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 4>acting quote unquote acting as a manager or an agent.

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 4>So an agent gets ten percent, a manager gets fifteen percent.

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 4>There you go, the parents get fifteen percent instead of

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 4>a manager something like that. That definitely seems fair and

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 4>makes more sense because we all know people that worked

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 4>and worked and worked and worked and worked and at

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 4>the end of the day had nothing nothing, and it's

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 4>because somebody took it, somebody invested it, somebody.

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 3>No, I'll don't worry, kid, I'll take care of your money.

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 3>And then, you know, I mean I did it.

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 7>I hired a business manager when I was fifteen because

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 7>my mom my dad had passed. My mom didn't know

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 7>anything about finances, and I was like, I don't know

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.479
<v Speaker 7>what to do. I was making a lot of money

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:52.280
<v Speaker 7>right around that fourteen fifteen sixteen, you know time period,

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 7>and I had a business manager and I signed over

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 7>power of attorney for him to just make sure that

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 7>I was taken care of. And sure enough came eighteen

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 7>and I had all these years of unpaid taxes that

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 7>I didn't know. I bought my house. I lost my house,

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 7>you know, I had to sell it. They garnished my wages,

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 7>they emptied my.

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 6>Bank account, like, oh that was that's horrible.

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 7>From fourteen fifteen and sixteen of I didn't know my

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 7>taxes weren't paid. I was signing something. I don't know

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 7>where the checks aren't getting sent out. You know, you

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 7>have no idea we trust people. So I had I

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 7>had to start over again, and it took me until

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 7>I was thirty to buy another house. And I still

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 7>like and then that's stuff, and I just feel like,

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 7>you know, I remember calling and being like, well I

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 7>would see commercials back then, and I mean literally a

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 7>human being came and knocked on my like they would

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 7>knock on my front door when I was eighteen from

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 7>the I r s like when a human being shows up,

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 7>it's bad, it's really scary. And my roommate and Natalia,

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 7>actually I think terror. I think Natalia Seglute probably know Natalia.

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:56.800
<v Speaker 6>So sweet.

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 7>So Natalia and I and Tara Reid were all living together.

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 7>They were in my house and yeah, it was crazy.

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Then lends a pilot.

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<v Speaker 7>So nuts and uh and and they would come knock

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 7>on my door and I would hide and and like

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 7>Natalia would get the door and be like she's she's

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 7>not here, She's not here, I mean it was really scary.

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:21.319
<v Speaker 7>And then we're you know again, so so we're we're

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 7>held responsible for stuff that happens to us when we're minors,

0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 7>like a member going and being like, what is this

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 7>pennies on the dollar? Like how can I negotiate with

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 7>the irs? I have no money, I don't know what

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 7>to do. I mean, I'm not working, Like it was

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 7>all around that time where I was like, I can't

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 7>do this anymore and uh, and they were like, pennies

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 7>on the dollar, we'll get our You're only eighteen, like,

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 7>we'll get our money from you at some point, so

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 7>we don't. We don't do that for people like you.

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 7>So you're like, okay, well you just kind of pick

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 7>up and you and you start over, you move on,

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 7>but we're all still standing. So we did something right,

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 7>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing we have to explain for our dear

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>listeners before we forget is let's explain what it means

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to do twenty pilots or twenty five pilots and then

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 1>for them not to go. We've talked about it a

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit where we've mentioned that you know, you audition

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:20.799
<v Speaker 1>for something, you get a callback for something, then you're

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>going to test for something, and by the way that

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>makes it sound like it's easy, it's sometimes twelve thirteen,

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>fourteen auditions before you get to that point where now

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you're going to test, and before you test for network,

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:33.280
<v Speaker 1>you get to see your contract.

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 6>You have to agree to the terms of your.

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Career, your contract. You get to see how much you're

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 2>going to make, because.

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be every year, it's still done. It's

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>not that he hasn't changed. So you get to sit down,

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 1>what do I do?

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 2>How's my life going to change?

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 7>And you know that from the time that you walk

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 7>out of the room, so you For me, most of

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 7>the time, I would know before I got to my

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 7>car if I got the job or.

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:57.839
<v Speaker 5>Not it does and then you'd have to sit around

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 5>and wait for five seven days sometimes just keep you yeah.

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 3>And that's now. Yeah, now, back in the day.

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 5>It was back in the day they would make decisions

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 5>within hours. But no, I feel like the last ten

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 5>to fifteen years they'll just take their time and the

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:12.720
<v Speaker 5>whole other sessions and keep you dangling.

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah awful, Well it was it was back in the day.

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 4>You. I mean, there were times I was literally in

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:21.479
<v Speaker 4>a smoke filled room with them smoking cigarettes and would

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 4>bring me back in and if you got the part

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 4>kid like an old school kind of thing. And then

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 4>there's a weird thing where you're you're getting your contracts

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 4>and you're looking at your contracts, and your lawyers and

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 4>your agents have to go through your contracts, and you

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:36.320
<v Speaker 4>get this combination of everything is mixed signals in this industry.

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:37.839
<v Speaker 4>So you get the combination of you have to sign

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 4>your life away. This is your contract letter of the law.

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 4>But then your agents and lawyers tell you, but if

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 4>the show's a hit, we can renegotiate everything. It's like,

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:47.800
<v Speaker 4>well wait, yeah, is it what's on the page?

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, but.

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 6>Six or seven year contract.

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Everyone understood that around year three there was a renegotiation negotiation.

0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Even though you signed, you still even.

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, three year three ornegotiations, so you try to get

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 1>to the third years.

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 3>So weird I also did.

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<v Speaker 7>There was one other pilot that I did that got

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 7>that to get picked up actually and it got it

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 7>got switched around. It was called That's Life and it

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 7>was on CBS and it was Paul Servino, Ellen Burston,

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:27.359
<v Speaker 7>w Mazar Kevin Dyllan had their cast cast pilot Crazy yeah, going, God,

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 7>well this one went. But so I auditioned tested as

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 7>a series regular and got the job and got the pilot,

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 7>and then the pilot became U got picked up, and

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 7>I then was turned into a guest star top of

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 7>the show for all nineteen episodes what come on? Because

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:54.839
<v Speaker 7>they brought on apparently they brought on. They didn't say

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 7>who wanted, either Paul or Ellen or somebody else they

0:50:57.280 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 7>didn't have at the beginning, and it ate up the money.

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 7>So it was my I could either they're gonna They're

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:04.800
<v Speaker 7>basically like, we're writing her out as a series regular,

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 7>but we can offer her a recurring for.

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, every episode, for every for every episode.

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:15.800
<v Speaker 7>I did it, and I did it, and I was like,

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 7>under the guise of okay, but if this, if this is,

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 7>if this goes good, then you know, next year they're

0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 7>going to do the right thing. You know, they'll make

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 7>me a stories regular. And by the end of that

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 7>first season, I took over that damn show. It was

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 7>I was a storyline and nobody was happy about it.

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 7>And it was me and Kevin Dillon. We got married

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 7>on the show, and it was like a whole thing.

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 7>And then the next year it came back, and they

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:37.880
<v Speaker 7>still didn't make me a series regular. They brought on

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 7>Titus well Over and they were like, sorry, you know,

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 7>we don't we don't really have it in the budget,

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 7>but if you want to do the show. So there

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 7>was a lot of a lot of like, well, do

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 7>I hold my ground and say no, I'm not going

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:51.319
<v Speaker 7>to come back?

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is so terrifying for actors. I mean, that's

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 2>the thing, it's the worst.

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 5>That's the problem with being an actor is that you're

0:51:56.800 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 5>so you're so disempowered, you know, you just you always

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 5>feel like you have to you want to be the trooper,

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, you want to show up and you want

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:06.720
<v Speaker 5>to get along, to get along and not make any waves.

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 7>And now do you think that that is because we

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:13.320
<v Speaker 7>were children actors that we were like, you can't be difficult.

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 5>No, I mean I think it's I think it's probably

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 5>increased because of that, sure, but I think it's it's

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 5>a pressure all actors feel, right Like, I feel like

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 5>all actors feel like like we should be lucky that

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 5>we're there, do you know what I mean? But it's

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:27.879
<v Speaker 5>also there's many people that want that job.

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:29.879
<v Speaker 4>You know how hard it is to get the job,

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:31.759
<v Speaker 4>so you know that going to the next one, You're like,

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:33.239
<v Speaker 4>I have to start over again.

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:35.720
<v Speaker 3>If I say no to this job that I've wanted

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 3>to do forever, it's and you.

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:39.319
<v Speaker 7>May never work again. They may never bring you back

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:41.720
<v Speaker 7>for anything. You may have ruined your you know, value,

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 7>difficult to work with and your and they know that,

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 7>so they play know that. Yeah, so I think. I mean,

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 7>I don't even know how it would be nowadays, Like

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 7>I can't even imagine having this big of a pool

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 7>to have to tell it.

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I get it.

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 7>I mean the offers. That's why I stay in my

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 7>horror community because the other stuff is like I went

0:52:58.120 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 7>to my first premiere. I don't if you guys have

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 7>been to a movie premiere in a while, but I

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 7>went to my first movie premiere in the fall, and

0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 7>I'd never seen what a red carpet looks like with

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 7>non actors, like they're all I was like, who are

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 7>these people? There were influencers and TikTokers and YouTubers, and

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:16.759
<v Speaker 7>I was like, what is going on? I don't know

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:21.360
<v Speaker 7>who anybody is. There was no one from like Hollywood

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:23.839
<v Speaker 7>that was there, but they were all in a Hollywood thing.

0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:24.880
<v Speaker 4>So it was.

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<v Speaker 7>It was very, very confusing for me. I've been out

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:29.720
<v Speaker 7>of it for for a long time. I think it's scary.

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:31.720
<v Speaker 3>It's scary, it is a terrible story.

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 4>But I thought you were going to start by saying,

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 4>and then Paul Starvino was attacked by a tiger.

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:44.920
<v Speaker 5>Thank god, every show she gets on, somebody gets attacked

0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 5>by a tiger.

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Attacked by a tiger.

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually I'm really glad you mentioned the horror community

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 1>again because our fans and our dear listeners would be

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 1>so upset with us if we did not touch on

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:01.600
<v Speaker 1>your incredible career that you've now you are just a

0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:05.320
<v Speaker 1>bona fide scream queen, which obviously started with your iconic

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>role Jamie Lloyd in both of the original films and

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the remakes. But I want to know, like, what do

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:13.879
<v Speaker 1>you love about the horror scene? What do you love

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 1>about the horror community?

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<v Speaker 7>Then it's a community, I mean, writer, you know, like

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 7>I love it. It's most like there's it's the only way,

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 7>Like no matter what I do, whether the movie is

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:27.840
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if I can like it could be

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 7>super say they still they love it because you show

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:35.840
<v Speaker 7>up and you support it and all of the directors

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 7>are also fanboys.

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:38.320
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:40.520
<v Speaker 7>You never get anyone that is involved in a horror

0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:42.279
<v Speaker 7>movie that doesn't that isn't there because of the love

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 7>of it, And I just don't find that happens when

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 7>I do other things. The community is amazing and it's

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 7>been able to afford me a normal Ironically enough, the

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 7>same thing that sort of took my childhood, you know,

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:56.880
<v Speaker 7>and the kid actor thing has given me the freedom

0:54:57.080 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 7>of my adulthood because I do appearances and make more

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 7>horror movies and do podcasts and all that stuff, And

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 7>it's it's giving me the freedom to just be a

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.880
<v Speaker 7>mom and a normal person and choose movies that I

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 7>want to do, you know, not not have to take

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:12.400
<v Speaker 7>everything that comes in my way, and not have to

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 7>be in the grind of putting myself on tape and

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:17.319
<v Speaker 7>running into auditions and doing all that stuff while trying

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:20.480
<v Speaker 7>to be present for my family. So I think that

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 7>it's they've literally given me my career and my life,

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.920
<v Speaker 7>that horror community, and I owe it to them. It's amazing.

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:31.640
<v Speaker 5>What's amazing about horror, I mean, what's the reason. One

0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:34.360
<v Speaker 5>of the main reasons is that it's one of the

0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 5>few genres that can get financing independently without huge actors attached,

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 5>because every other if you're making a movie independently outside

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 5>of the studio system, the first question is like, well,

0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 5>what bankable stars is in it, Whereas in horror they

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:51.279
<v Speaker 5>don't care. They will just do it because it's a

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:53.800
<v Speaker 5>good script or because it has a cool twist or whatever.

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:56.880
<v Speaker 5>And what that means is that like blue collar working

0:55:56.960 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 5>actors can get jobs and can be like the lead

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 5>role or whatever. And it's so and you know, it's

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:04.520
<v Speaker 5>like in a weird way, it's it's sort of like

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:06.840
<v Speaker 5>an ensemble of community.

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:09.480
<v Speaker 5>It's like they the same people keep working and want

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 5>to work together and get hired again, because it's like

0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 5>we're all making a movie for its own sake. We're

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 5>not making a movie to like, you know, just make

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:18.719
<v Speaker 5>a ton of money or whatever. It's like we have

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:20.759
<v Speaker 5>our fan base that's built in. We can get the

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.760
<v Speaker 5>financing that's built in. It's just it's a great genre.

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.879
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of the last bastion of the independent film

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 3>where it's always will always.

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 5>If you notice all these film companies, like basically you know, Lionsgate,

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:35.959
<v Speaker 5>like they build themselves off of horror films.

0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:37.280
<v Speaker 2>That's how every one of them starts.

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 5>It was like with Lionsgate, it was, you know, we

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:41.160
<v Speaker 5>had Cabin Fever was one of their first big buys,

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:43.440
<v Speaker 5>and then boom they hit it with the Saw franchise

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:44.319
<v Speaker 5>that launched them.

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that launched a member artists in films

0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:49.400
<v Speaker 2>that which project. It's like that's what started them, and

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 2>then they get bought by another company.

0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:51.360
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 5>It's like and it's like it just keeps happening that

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:57.480
<v Speaker 5>these companies basically build their entire the foundation for these

0:56:57.560 --> 0:56:58.840
<v Speaker 5>huge studios off of horror.

0:56:59.239 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the way it goes.

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because that's it's still making money. I mean, people

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 7>still want to go to the theater, they still want

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 7>to buy it. There's still they still want to buy

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 7>the DVD and all the merch and all of that stuff.

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:10.359
<v Speaker 7>Like that's still a their megan last year.

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:13.440
<v Speaker 5>It's so huge, and it's like I just love it

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:15.839
<v Speaker 5>because I also think that there's something to be said

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 5>for the years that like movies get under your skin

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 5>are when you're like twelve, between twelve and seventeen, and

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 5>like that's the horror movie audience, right, It's like people

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:29.120
<v Speaker 5>who are like, wait, I can go see a movie

0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 5>that I'm not supposed to see or that's going to

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 5>scare me. And like what happens is that you fall

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 5>in love with horror films at that age and then

0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 5>it becomes a lifelong thing, and so there's always an

0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 5>audience for I.

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 7>Mean, single handedly, that's a perfect way to describe it.

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 7>I truly believe the reason why I've had such a

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 7>career in horror is because I was ten when I

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:52.280
<v Speaker 7>did Halloween, and that was right around the time that

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:56.280
<v Speaker 7>people were going they were ten also watching another ten

0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 7>year old, so they grew up with me and continue

0:57:59.960 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 7>to follow and support and then see all the other

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:03.760
<v Speaker 7>things and that I did because I didn't do a

0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 7>horror movie for twenty years in between. Only Urban Legend

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 7>was one that I did in between Halloween five, which

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:15.840
<v Speaker 7>was nineteen ninety until two thousand and nine. I hadn't

0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 7>done two thousand and seven. I'm sorry, I had never

0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 7>I done one horror movie. So and then all of

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:23.240
<v Speaker 7>a sudden I came back for Rob Zombies and as

0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 7>a different character. But it like sparked up this whole

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 7>thing again that I went, oh my god, I didn't

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 7>even know that that was still affect, that could still

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:34.200
<v Speaker 7>be a thing. But you know, like you said, you

0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:36.560
<v Speaker 7>go to see these movies at ten, eleven, twelve thirteen,

0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 7>like it makes me feel something.

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it's Halloween five. Were you like in an

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 6>air duct? Ever?

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>In an and and someone was, Okay, that's that's the

0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 1>reason I don't.

0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 6>Like horror movies.

0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 2>That's what That's the other way I can go. Right.

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:52.880
<v Speaker 5>It can traumatize your So you never want to watch

0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 5>a horror Okay, You're like, I got to get this

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:56.720
<v Speaker 5>feeling back to the.

0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Rest of the money.

0:58:57.400 --> 0:58:57.560
<v Speaker 7>It was.

0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 6>I was, I saw I had never watched a horror movie.

0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I was at a slumber party at a girlfriend's house

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and they put it on and I literally was like,

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:06.120
<v Speaker 1>this is the worst thing ever.

0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 6>Why would we ever want to watch somebody like running

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 6>for their life. I was out of breath. I was like,

0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.320
<v Speaker 6>I can't do it. I'm I can't watch movies.

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I would like a laundry shoot. And they it

0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:18.479
<v Speaker 7>was an air conditioning duct that they turned on its side.

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 7>And then I mean listen, back then, I wasn't even

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:24.320
<v Speaker 7>hardest in there. I was just edged myself in there.

0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 7>And they were dabbing. They were like they were like

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 7>holding my arms and lowered me into it, and then

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 7>they were stabbing with a real knife through because they

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:36.640
<v Speaker 7>wanted to get the knife coming through from below my life.

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's crazy.

0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I know, I know, I know. It's

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 2>your money, man, it's just sitting in the back just

0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:45.320
<v Speaker 2>like ye do it again.

0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:49.680
<v Speaker 7>Exactly exactly. You're fine, You're fine, You're fine running in

0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:51.880
<v Speaker 7>front of moving cars. I just think remember like my

0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:55.720
<v Speaker 7>social my social worker teacher and my mom like being

0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 7>so excited that I was going to be doing this

0:59:57.680 --> 0:59:59.440
<v Speaker 7>awesome scene where I was running in front of a

0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:01.560
<v Speaker 7>moving car in the middle of the night and smoke

1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 7>and you know, God for I watch it now and

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:06.880
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, oh my god, I can't even believe that

1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:09.880
<v Speaker 7>like this this was allowed. It's nuts.

1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:14.840
<v Speaker 6>Totally changed live to tell about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, Yes, thank you well, Danielle.

1:00:18.760 --> 1:00:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for being here and sharing all

1:00:22.520 --> 1:00:25.440
<v Speaker 1>of your amazing stories. I loved all I mean, I

1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:27.640
<v Speaker 1>loved all your stories, but especially loved how much you

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:30.280
<v Speaker 1>remembered like just fun moments from Boy Meets World.

1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:33.760
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, and it makes me, it makes my heart so warm.

1:00:33.880 --> 1:00:35.840
<v Speaker 1>To know that, Like you said, like one out of

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:38.040
<v Speaker 1>every ten person, ten people who come up to you

1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:40.000
<v Speaker 1>says boy meets world to you.

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:42.520
<v Speaker 7>I just I mean, you got a major mark in history,

1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:44.760
<v Speaker 7>you know. I mean, it's it's a big deal. You're

1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:47.560
<v Speaker 7>You're forever gonna be that no matter what, and that's

1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:49.960
<v Speaker 7>a beautiful thing. So I love that you guys are

1:00:50.040 --> 1:00:52.880
<v Speaker 7>doing this and much success, and that you're all still friends.

1:00:53.080 --> 1:00:55.560
<v Speaker 7>I mean, so far, so good, right, so far so good,

1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:00.280
<v Speaker 7>and I wish you I wish you guys the best too,

1:01:00.400 --> 1:01:02.600
<v Speaker 7>So keep going with this and maybe we'll do a

1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:04.920
<v Speaker 7>they'll reboot it and we can all come back and

1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:06.360
<v Speaker 7>do sled. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Any of the information you have on time machines or

1:01:12.560 --> 1:01:14.560
<v Speaker 1>time travel actually.

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<v Speaker 7>Funny, funny story. I'll leave you with before before I

1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 7>before I go, just a little blip, randomly, I got

1:01:21.440 --> 1:01:25.280
<v Speaker 7>a DM someone slid into my DMS last week. I

1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:30.680
<v Speaker 7>never checked that stuff and it it was Harley Kiner himself.

1:01:30.880 --> 1:01:36.120
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, it's like, I I know it's been a while,

1:01:36.240 --> 1:01:38.440
<v Speaker 7>but if you would like to, you know, maybe meet up.

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<v Speaker 7>And he said pictures of himself.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I know who you are.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so yeah, so that was really lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>It was nice.

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<v Speaker 6>We tried to we tried to have a reunion with you.

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<v Speaker 6>We wanted you to be a part of our live show.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, if you could do it any other day,

1:01:58.120 --> 1:02:00.880
<v Speaker 7>my flight, I was like, oh my god, time earlier

1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:02.720
<v Speaker 7>in the day. But if you do another one any

1:02:02.760 --> 1:02:04.840
<v Speaker 7>other time, I'm more than happy to come and be

1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:05.680
<v Speaker 7>part of your life.

1:02:05.920 --> 1:02:08.520
<v Speaker 6>We will, we would love to have We will make

1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:09.280
<v Speaker 6>it happen for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So where are you in Texas?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in Austin right now. Oh great, great, nice, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm out in I'm out in hill country. I'm literally

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<v Speaker 7>there's like longhorn cattle when you pull into my community,

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<v Speaker 7>just cows and dirt, all right, guys, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh man, so much fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Her stories are just so funny.

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<v Speaker 6>She said she's gonna write a book, and I'm man,

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<v Speaker 6>she should.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here should.

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<v Speaker 5>She's one of the I mean, she's just a legend,

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<v Speaker 5>like she's just like it's it's it's such an interesting

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<v Speaker 5>career because she never had that giant breakout, Like she

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<v Speaker 5>really should have had that series, right, Like she should

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<v Speaker 5>have been the star of her own series for years,

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<v Speaker 5>but it never happened, and so she's just been a

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<v Speaker 5>consistently working actress.

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<v Speaker 2>Four it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's right, we're all connected. Oh, your girlfriend was

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<v Speaker 3>my friend and your friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, every story was like I was living with, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but we all.

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<v Speaker 6>So funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. Can I tell you, guys, we've talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>now a couple of times. The story about pilots and

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<v Speaker 1>how testing works. Can I tell you my worst ever

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood testing story?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>Please?

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<v Speaker 1>So I was testing for an ABC pilot and there's this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, group of girls that are testing, four or

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<v Speaker 1>five of us, and then there's another girl that's testing

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<v Speaker 1>and she's being kept separate from the rest of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and she just seems a little down. And I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what kept drawing me to her, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like I wanted to talk to her.

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<v Speaker 1>And so at one point, after some of the other

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<v Speaker 1>girls had gone in, I made my way over to

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<v Speaker 1>where she was sitting and I said, you know, hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? And she was kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>little skittish, like why are you talking to me? And

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<v Speaker 1>but she started talking to me and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when did you have your first audition for this, and

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<v Speaker 1>she goes, oh, I did the pilot and they're recasting me.

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<v Speaker 6>But they're they're not sure they want to recast me,

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<v Speaker 6>so they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Testing me again again.

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<v Speaker 1>But not only were they making her test again when

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<v Speaker 1>she had already booked the role and done the pilot,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're making her test again on the same day

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<v Speaker 1>all the other actresses that.

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<v Speaker 2>I make her test again. You already have footage of her.

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<v Speaker 6>You have the pilot. So I was like, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was heartbroken for her. She wasn't even from town.

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<v Speaker 1>She was out so then she had flown out here.

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<v Speaker 1>They had put her up at the Universal Hotel, the

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<v Speaker 1>Sheridan over there, and I said, I am so sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was like time for my audition. I

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<v Speaker 1>went in and I did my audition, and when I

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<v Speaker 1>walked out, she she had already been done with her

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<v Speaker 1>She was waiting for a car to come and pick

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<v Speaker 1>her up, and I said, I will take you back

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<v Speaker 1>to your hotel.

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<v Speaker 6>She go in my car. We're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>We really liked each other, and I said, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>meant it more, but like, good luck, I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>get this again. And as she's getting out, of my car.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of our phones ring, and we looked at each

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<v Speaker 1>other and we knew it was like Danielle said, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times, you get that answer before you're even

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<v Speaker 1>home or before you're even.

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<v Speaker 2>To your car.

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<v Speaker 1>And she and I looked at each other, and she

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<v Speaker 1>stepped out of my car and answered her phone and

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<v Speaker 1>looked back over her shoulder at me as I answered

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<v Speaker 1>my phone, and she walked in and I drove away

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<v Speaker 1>and I said it was my manager on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, hey, Danielle, you didn't get it. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know who got it? I don't care that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get it. I just need to know is

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<v Speaker 1>it the girl who originally had it? And he said

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't book it either. Oh, And I just thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 6>What are we doing with ourselves?

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<v Speaker 5>That's so close to a story I have. I was

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<v Speaker 5>testing for a show and one of the guys had

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<v Speaker 5>was was not from l A and was outtown.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew him.

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<v Speaker 5>We had been up against each other for at that point,

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<v Speaker 5>probably three or four roles. This Ben Feldman. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if you guys know Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a great actor.

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<v Speaker 5>So Ben Ben, I was like, Ben, do you need

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<v Speaker 5>a ride to your hotel after we've tested for the show.

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<v Speaker 5>And he jumps in the car with me and he's

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<v Speaker 5>like yeah, And then we're driving and then his phone

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<v Speaker 5>rings and I'm like, just go ahead and get it.

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<v Speaker 5>Manure Adam Sandler had was producing the show, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 5>we need you to come back so you can meet

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<v Speaker 5>with Adam.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, I'll drive you back to me

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<v Speaker 2>with Adam. Good luck Ben all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I love what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it podcasting, not acting. I podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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