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Speaker 1: Well, hey, there you you, and you welcome to I

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Speaker 1: saw what.

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Speaker 2: You did the bonus episode.

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Speaker 3: My name is Millie, I'm Danielle, and we're here to

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Speaker 1: Chit chat, some clackity clack what else.

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Speaker 2: So get to know a little bit about us, A

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our first bonus episode was about quarantine. And have

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Speaker 3: you felt eddy better knowing that there is maybe a

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what I'm thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: I do feel better, but I also feel the way

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Speaker 4: I feel about being an early adopter of Apple products,

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Speaker 4: which I'm not, Like, I'm always gonna want to wait

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Speaker 4: some psych Like I'm psyched that there's there's hope that

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Speaker 4: I feel like it ain't happening anytime soon.

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Speaker 3: Guys like still, you're still in a contract with your

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Speaker 3: old virus, and you're gonna wait at least six months

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Speaker 3: then you'll get it eventually.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So.

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Speaker 2: All right, first note, Millie, I love your lipstick.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so good.

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Speaker 2: I just want to get that out of the way.

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Speaker 3: I have to talk about this because this is I

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Speaker 3: just bought this today. This is shameful because essentially this

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Speaker 3: is Kylie Jenner's lip paint.

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Speaker 4: Oh my, it's fine. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's like, like, do we need to make

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Speaker 3: those women any more rich, any more famous? And I

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Speaker 3: hate to say that because you go girl, but I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying, like, not for them.

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Speaker 4: Here's a secret. Here's a secret that I learned though.

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Speaker 4: The place where Kylie Jenner's makeup comes from is the

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Speaker 4: same exact company that makes color Pop, which is like

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Speaker 4: five dollars a fucking tube.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that like British thing.

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Speaker 4: So if you want to just get that red in

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Speaker 4: color Pop, that might be the way to go. Okay,

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Speaker 4: but it looks great, so I will give her that.

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Speaker 4: It does it does. It does look great.

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Speaker 3: So it's this this thing that comes in this like

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Speaker 3: It's a matt lip stain and a pencil, and so

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what this is the magic. This is why

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we learned that in like nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like I thought it was going to

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Speaker 1: Essentially they just did instruction to tell you put.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, legitimately the move I had in high

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Speaker 2: Could have been a billionaire off of that shit, I know.

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Speaker 3: And listen, I have to tell you, if you're expecting

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Speaker 4: And then I was just like, Danielle, come on, you

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Speaker 3: Because I even just call myself saying that, right, because

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Speaker 3: And I encourage them to and I buy from them often,

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's the next level situation for them.

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Speaker 3: And first of all, I'm also in this mindset of like,

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not even like an Esday latter. But i

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Speaker 2: That's not like it to me. It doesn't feel like

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Speaker 4: But that's also because I don't know shit about makeup

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Speaker 1: That's the thing about Glossier. I think that makes me.

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Speaker 4: I can't fucking contouring or anything like. I don't do

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Speaker 4: However, I gotta say I'm deeply confused by this new

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Speaker 4: most of the Glossier stuff I can't fuck with because

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Speaker 4: The first time I rolled up to the Glossier store

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Speaker 4: I'm like, no, Dannielle, be a little bit more environmentally

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Speaker 4: And I looked at her and I was like, I

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Speaker 4: if even post COVID, like I'm not lining, I will

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Speaker 4: get everything I need from them online because I'm not

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Speaker 4: standing in a line full of like very excited like tweens,

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Speaker 4: very excited tweens and I also, I don't need the

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Speaker 2: I don't need any of the stuff.

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Speaker 3: I know, Oh the tote bag, the makeup pouch or

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Speaker 3: whatever that thing is. It comes in like that plastic thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, you know, samples, Like.

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Speaker 4: I can't do a sample now, although I will say,

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Speaker 4: like when I go to ASoP, give me all the

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Speaker 1: Well, ASoP is a whole of that's like that is

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Speaker 3: Now it's like there's so everyone has a makeup line everyone,

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Speaker 3: The makeup that were the most is probably Nars. That's

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean maybe it's maybe is Kylie Jenner.

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Speaker 4: You feel weird about this?

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Speaker 3: Instantly, OATA, there's like Nirvana Incesticide shirts hanging over, like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, like I I'm I'm totally fine

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Speaker 3: But it's it's harder because I think it is exciting

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Speaker 1: So then there's this moment where like, you just look

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Speaker 3: High school, you know what I mean? Like, I still

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Speaker 4: I many clothes I still wear that I wore in

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Speaker 4: But there are some things that I feel like, all right,

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Speaker 4: Like we can't make everything cool.

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Speaker 3: Well, right, I mean, everybody wants to dress like Seinfeld characters,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've had it, but I'm like, eh, it's

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Speaker 3: rest of your life. I'm not.

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00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what retinal is, don't I still don't

439
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 4: know what a BB cream is.

440
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what.

441
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. And I'm like, what's

442
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 4: the difference between the Bby cream and the moisturizer and

443
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 4: it's one gonna make me look sweaty or not. And

444
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 4: also there's so many chemicals going on.

445
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: Skin right now.

446
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 4: I feel like everything that people talk about in regards

447
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 4: to makeup is a like.

448
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: A hardcore chemical where they're like.

449
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 4: Let's do a glycolic peel at home, and I'm like,

450
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 4: that sounds like some science fiction shit to me.

451
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 2: It sounds like Hulk.

452
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 4: In the lab is going to turn into a monster

453
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 4: in a minute because he put fucking glycolic whatever on

454
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: his face. I don't I truly don't get it. I

455
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 4: truly don't understand like the benefits of it. I don't

456
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: understand why everyone is so comfortable with it, like I

457
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,479
Speaker 4: do not. I wash my face with sugar. Yeah, that

458
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 4: is my skin scrub is sugar. I mean, it's essentially

459
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 4: what you would buy. That's like it, that's what they

460
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 4: sell is. It's just all of oil and sugar.

461
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: Basically scrub that's scrubs.

462
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 4: That's the scrub. And then if every once in a while,

463
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 4: like legitimately every four or five months, I'll put like

464
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 4: some oils on my face, Like I have almond oil

465
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 4: that I use in my hair, and I'll just like,

466
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 4: all right, so my hair is also on my face

467
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: and I just put like a hot washcloth on it

468
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 4: and it feels super moisturizing. In the winter, I do

469
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 4: it once in the winter once.

470
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all I do.

471
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 4: It's all I need to.

472
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, like less is more if you are

473
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 3: lucky to have like a very natural, old school skin routine,

474
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: like now since quarantine, I only use witch hazel, which

475
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 3: is the thing that I remember my mom. There was

476
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: like two things that I remember from my mom. And

477
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 3: you know, my mom's from the Philippines, so she looks amazing,

478
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 3: like she's always gonna have amazing skin. But it's like

479
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: she used Ponds cold cream, yes, and witch hazel. Those

480
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 3: are the only two things I remember from growing up.

481
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: And if you have some kind of real low maintenance

482
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: thing that like completely works for you, stay because you

483
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 3: don't want to be where I'm at. Where it's like

484
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm in the middle of a Sephora and I want

485
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 3: to spend five thousand dollars and I don't know what

486
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: to buy, you know, don't be like, I mean that

487
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: is not a pleasure for me as much as it is, like, Oh,

488
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: consumerism is fun. It makes me feel better about myself. Yeah, yeah,

489
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: yeah it's not.

490
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I still.

491
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: Feel like a mark when I walk into a Sephora.

492
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: Oh definitely.

493
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 3: And don't you dare ask a person because they will

494
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: tell you exactly what's wrong with you and what's not

495
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: wrong with you.

496
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: Oh one hundo percent.

497
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: I asked once the last time I went to a Sephora,

498
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 4: and I went in and I said, I feel like

499
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 4: and it was very upfront, like I am in my

500
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 4: mid forties. I'm approaching my mid forties. I do not

501
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: moisturize my skin at all, and I feel like I

502
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 4: should start moisturizing my body beyond like the vacileine pump

503
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 4: I grew up with, So like, what kind of body

504
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 4: moisturizer is good for?

505
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: Like dry skin?

506
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 4: This motherfucker showed me, just kept steering me around products.

507
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 4: Nothing was less than one hundred dollars a bottle. Yeah,

508
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 4: everything made promises like it'll wake you up in the morning,

509
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 4: it'll give you a blowjob, like it was just like

510
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 4: the promises we're getting more and more heightened, to the

511
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: point where I'm like, am I in the middle of

512
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 4: the movie the game where I'm getting super Punks? It

513
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 4: was to the point where I was so overwhelmed that

514
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: I was genuinely like, you know what, vacline and the

515
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 4: Pump's okay, it's fine, Like I don't need any of this,

516
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 4: and everything sounded like a science experiment. I just I couldn't.

517
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 4: I couldn't go there. I'm such a fucking mark.

518
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they'll they'll come with They're like, hey, come

519
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 3: and get your skin tested with this like X ray

520
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 3: iron Maiden thing that we have.

521
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, then we can.

522
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 3: Just tell you, look at all this crap that's under

523
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: your skin. You need to buy all this shit to

524
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: like get it all out. And you know, I mean

525
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: that to me is obviously like so crazy, and I

526
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: want to think, oh, I'm better than that, Like I

527
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: know that I know the routine, but there are moments

528
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 3: where you do walk in those places to feel better

529
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 3: about yourself. And then if somebody tells you you look

530
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 3: like shit, You're like, well, what's going to make me

531
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 3: not look like shit? And then I'll just plunk the

532
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: credit cards out.

533
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 4: Oh, Keel's got me on that the first month. No,

534
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 4: maybe it was like a few, like six months after

535
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 4: I moved here. And Keel's has always been my go

536
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 4: to for like I'm going to get a face moisturizer,

537
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do my hair like It's just been such

538
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 4: a great brand for me throughout my life. So I

539
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 4: walked in just feeling like I'm gonna get what I

540
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 4: usually get. I'm just I'm just restocking, and the very

541
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 4: nice young woman behind the counter said have you checked

542
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: your skins dryness or like she was looking at the

543
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 4: products I was buying, and she's like, oh, we have

544
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: this other thing. Have you checked your dryness levels? And

545
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 4: I was like, not even close. Have I checked, like

546
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 4: not ever in life levels levels? What do you mean,

547
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 4: like it's either dry or not right? And so she's

548
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: brought out this wand and, which now sounds horrific in

549
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: COVID world because she's proably rubbed it on eight hundred faces.

550
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 4: But she brought out this wand and kind of rubbed

551
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: it on my cheek and was like, Oh, your skin's

552
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 4: at about a sick and it's normally a normal level.

553
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: Is like an eighteen.

554
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 4: And I looked at her and I'm like, we do

555
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 4: live in a desert, so that's expected. I can just

556
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: slap on some this moisturizer that I'm buying more than

557
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 4: once a day if I need to. She's like, no,

558
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: all you need to do is get this hydration gel

559
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 4: and put this on underneath. Put it on first, and

560
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 4: then put on your moisturizer because your skin is really.

561
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: And I did.

562
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: I bought it. I bought it because she sold me

563
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: on the fact. She made it sound like I was

564
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: sitting in a beef jerky hydrator like dehydrator all day

565
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 4: and I was going to shrivel up if I didn't

566
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 4: use this stuff. And I was like, you know what,

567
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 4: all right, I got it, and you know what it did.

568
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: It made me look super fucking sweaty sweaty. Of course,

569
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 4: they just don't. They don't under truly understand what it happens.

570
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 3: Like they'll they can, like at best sort of just

571
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 3: sort of tell you that you'll get hydration, but they

572
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: don't see that it makes you look like you've just

573
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 3: run like the Boston Marathon, like it's just not And

574
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: to be completely this is me, this is my assessment

575
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 3: of what has made me actually look the best in

576
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 3: my life, and that is quitting smoking and quitting drinking.

577
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: That's it.

578
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: That's it. It's like, doesn't take any beauty product.

579
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, if you just like don't drink all

580
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: the time and don't smoke cigarettes, you'll look fucking amazing.

581
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: You will have the youthful glow. You don't need fillers,

582
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 3: you don't need collishit. It's just like, quit drinking and

583
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 3: smoke and get some sleep.

584
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 4: That's it.

585
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: This is the this is the real deal.

586
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: My skin started looking better when I started sleeping more

587
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 4: and getting like not going to bed at four am

588
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: and waking up at seven for work. And when I

589
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: started like all the stuff that they tell you you

590
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 4: need in your twenties because you're actually not taking care

591
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: of yourself, is what you actually need to do. Like,

592
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 4: if you just like you said, get a good night's sleep,

593
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: drink enough water. Doesn't even have to be a.

594
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: Ton of water.

595
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 4: Just drink some water throughout the day, get your eight

596
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 4: hours in, don't drink, don't smoke. You're gonna look like

597
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: a cover model. Yeah, for the most it's the only thing.

598
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the only thing.

599
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 4: That has.

600
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: It's just like all that basic essential shit, Like, I mean,

601
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: it's so incredible though, how how much I will chase

602
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: the chase down the products in order.

603
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, the products are making me different.

604
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: They're definitely, although I will say Latis is working out there.

605
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 4: I love Latis. It's the only and that's the chemical

606
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 4: that I'm putting right in my eyeball. Basically, yeah, thank

607
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: you for that. You are so welcome. I went in

608
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: so listeners, just so you know, while we're both on

609
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: the Latis train. I went in for my annual eye exam,

610
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: and I have this thing called blepharitis, which is like

611
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: an inflammation of your eyelids and it causes your eye

612
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 4: lashes to fall out. And it's just like basically the

613
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: mites that we all have in our eyes. Mine work

614
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: a little over time, so I'm constantly having to like

615
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: wash my eyelids with teacher you and all this kind

616
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: of stuff. But I don't have eyelashes, Like I haven't

617
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: had eyelashes for years. So I went into my optician

618
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 4: or my autometrist, and I was like, look, regardless of

619
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: the astigmatism or whatever else I have going on, I

620
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 4: used to have long, curly eyelashes, and I would like

621
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: something again, even if they're not what they used to be.

622
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: So she prescribed latise and I was like, is this

623
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: that Clara Day and shit? And it is and it

624
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: works and it's basically she was going through the checklist

625
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 4: and she's like it might change the color of your eyes,

626
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 4: and I'm like, my eyes are black.

627
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.

628
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: And she was going through all this stuff and I'm like,

629
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 4: will it grow eyelashes? And she's like, it won't grow eyelashes.

630
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 4: It was developed, I guess for glaucoma patients, and they

631
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: had like the eyelashes were like a side effect of

632
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 4: this medicine they were trying to give people who had glaucoma.

633
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, let's let's do it all, let's

634
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: try it. It's the one thing, the one point of

635
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: vanity that I true we have because it's something that's

636
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 4: missing and I feel like I need it back. So

637
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: I started it and within a week, those little spurts

638
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: were starting to come out, and then within two weeks

639
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: I had like actual eyelashes again. And I still have

640
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: to manage the blufferitis, you know, I still have to

641
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: like do my wipes and everything. But I have eyelashes again.

642
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: So my issue again.

643
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: Like I've not this is the I've never done anything

644
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: like this before in my life, Like I've never had

645
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: a plastic surgery thing.

646
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: I've never I've never taken anything like that.

647
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: No, So I have a I sleep on my face,

648
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: which we've talked about because when you told me about Latiz,

649
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: like I also heard about Latise via the Clared Danes

650
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: commerces and you know, as she is a relic of

651
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: our childhood, I was like, fucking clar Edanes is out

652
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: here getting these eyelashes.

653
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: Holy shit.

654
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: One day when I got it like that, I'll I'll

655
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: get those eyelashes too. But I've always had fine eyelashes.

656
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: Like my eyelashes are okay, but on my right side.

657
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: So I sleep on my face and I kind of

658
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: sleep at this angle where the pillow is like on

659
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: my right eye. I don't know why I sleep like this.

660
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: You just want to sleep with like a little eye pitch.

661
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a little like you're not none of

662
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: you can see me right now, but it's like take

663
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: your hand and put it over your right eye.

664
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: And that's kind of like how I sleep.

665
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So my eyebrows are sparser over on this side.

666
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: I've had it mentioned to me literally by every threading

667
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: woman that's ever looked at my eyebriis.

668
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: She's like, you know that your right eyebrow is Like,

669
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm like.

670
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it's fucked up. I sleep on my face. I

671
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: don't know how to not sleep this way.

672
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: Like you know how I sleep. I face plant every day.

673
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.

674
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: I literally face plant and then I just wake up.

675
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: So give me a fucking break, work with me, okay.

676
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: So then I've noticed that what happens is now on

677
00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: my right eyelashes they grow crisscross because they're not you know,

678
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: obviously they're not going straight.

679
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: So if you look on the corner of my.

680
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: Right eye, all the eyelashes they are so irritating because

681
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: when they grow crisscross, they just get irritated. My eyes

682
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: are always watering. So I'm like, I basically have this

683
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: like weird ingrown eyelash problem. Yeah, And so because of that,

684
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: I was like essentially pulling out eyelashes because I'm like,

685
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: I can't.

686
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: Take it anymore.

687
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: That's a bluff, righty thing.

688
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 4: Because when they grew back, they grew back at odd

689
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: angles and some of them grow straight down, so they're

690
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: like right in your line of vision. And I was

691
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: just plucking out eyelashes all day.

692
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, may Evander, we have the same thing. Wouldn't

693
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: that be fucking crazy. I've never had I never was

694
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: diagnosed with that, but like now I'm like, shit, maybe

695
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: I got this.

696
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: Shit I need to go.

697
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: But so essentially like this was it was like my

698
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: left eyelashes were totally great, totally fine, but then the

699
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: right ones looked jacked and it was patchy and all

700
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: that shit. So when you told me about latise, it

701
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: all just clicked where I was like, oh man, I

702
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: got to get some latise. I got a clar eddans

703
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: like it all was rushing back. So I went to

704
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: my dermatologist and basically was like, can we work on

705
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: this eyelash? And She's like, okay, fine, And so I've

706
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: been using it for like a month and that shit

707
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: is I'm like, wow, I can actually see growth there.

708
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: That's crazy to me.

709
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it's still has a ways to go, I think,

710
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm like, wow, like I

711
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: can't believe shit works.

712
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: I don't know why I thought it wouldn't, but I'm

713
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: actually works cool.

714
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: It's a prescription, Like why why it would never work

715
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: on me?

716
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 4: And also like I keep getting she gave me like

717
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: a three month prescription and the bottle lasts a long

718
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: time because you know, I use it pretty much every day,

719
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: but some days I don't, and I keep getting called

720
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: by my pharmacy and they're like, we have your prescription,

721
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 4: can you come get it, and like I'm not done

722
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: with this one yet, And now they're starting to like

723
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: threat They're like, we will restock, we will reshelve this

724
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: in seventy if you don't come get it, and I'm like, don't,

725
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: don't get your laties, bitch, don't you threaten me with latise.

726
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid to let that shit go back on

727
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: the shelf. I'll come get it another day. You still

728
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 4: have to fill the order for me. Maybe feel it

729
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: what I asked for it? How about that?

730
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

731
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Exactly? Why are you trying to do the ship way

732
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: in advance?

733
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

734
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 4: I don't need it right now. I just got on

735
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: this eyelash game. Let's like, calm it down, fucking Walgreens, chill.

736
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 3: I know, I mean, honestly, I'm I'm super excited because

737
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, when this latise is over and we

738
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: get a vaccine, these new eyelashes are going for a walk, bitch.

739
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm putting on like.

740
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: Triple dipple bad gal lash, Like we're going out on

741
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: the town with these new eyelashes. Can't catch me doing

742
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: the crisscross shit anymore. It's gonna be on.

743
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get a boom box and we're gonna play

744
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: that Diana Ross song. People are gonna be like, why

745
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: are they blinking so much? And I'm like, have you

746
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: seen the lash? Why does she yeah?

747
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: Exactly?

748
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: Why does she look like she's like being courted by

749
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: pepe leapwe from an old cartoon?

750
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 4: What's up with this woman?

751
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: She's obsessed with flirting with her eyes.

752
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 4: She smiles it all over the place. What's her problem?

753
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: Check out the lash, That's what's up. No.

754
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: I love that tip though, I mean quite honestly, like

755
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: I mean to me, it is so interesting about quarantine

756
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: makeup and sort of like because right now I'm not

757
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: wearing any makeup except for this stupid Kylie Jenner lipstick.

758
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: But you mean, well a lot of it too. Is

759
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: I'm sitting under a light, which I never realized is

760
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: a thing.

761
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, here's how we do it.

762
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: We get enough sleep, we don't drink, and we carry

763
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 4: an overhead lamb at all time. Yeah.

764
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: I mean the key is to just be lit. I

765
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: don't really know how or why. I mean, honestly, like,

766
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: it was that thing where I felt like, that's an

767
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: idiot getting a ring light, like when Quarantine first happened.

768
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: Like one of my co workers, Jacob, he's a producer

769
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: over at TCM. He's like a young guy like his

770
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: like late twenties, early thirties, and I remember we were

771
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: in a meeting like rural early in Quarantine and Jacob

772
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: gets on this fucking zoom call and he looks like

773
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: he just got back from like fucking Saint Bart.

774
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, where have you been.

775
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: You're like super tan, you look super handsome, like you

776
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: just got a glow, Like where where did you just

777
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: go somewhere? Like this pandemic just started. And he was

778
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: like it's a ring light, dumb ass. And I'm like,

779
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 3: excuse me what? And I was like, okay, So in

780
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: order to look tan, you have to get a ring light.

781
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: In order to look good on the internet, you have

782
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: to get a ring light. And then I was like

783
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 3: taking my stupid fourty year old ass.

784
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: To best Buy it.

785
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, what do a vloggers use? Can I

786
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: get something for that?

787
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 4: Like?

788
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: And it was literally a blogger kit that had a

789
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: ring light and like it had like a little shitty tripod.

790
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: And the moment I got one, I was like, now

791
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: I understand.

792
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I understand. I have no lighting right now

793
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 4: going on and all you see is shadows, Like it's

794
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 4: just shadows all over my face. So I think I'm

795
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 4: also going to invest in one because it does make

796
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: a difference, right, oh my god, Like, and it's not

797
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: I can't tell you.

798
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: It's not about vanity now, it's about like, oh, it

799
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: just makes you look like.

800
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 4: You're not dying.

801
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, you're not dying, like your coworkers will

802
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: you can come to the meeting and your coworkers are like,

803
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: she isn't dying. Yeah, she doesn't have you know, she's

804
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: not like locked away in a cellar. She hasn't been kidnapped,

805
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 3: she's not taking this meeting from under the table.

806
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs has not captured her.

807
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 3: She looks okay and so that's why I'm like, it

808
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 3: doesn't even to me. Now, it's just about like, okay, well,

809
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: it's like turning a light on so that people can

810
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: see you.

811
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: That's exactly it. That's exactly it.

812
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: They're like extremely cheap.

813
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I thought it was going to be this

814
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 3: big undertaking. It's really cheap. It doesn't take a lot

815
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: to light something. And so I was like, okay, well,

816
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: so these are tips, like I you know, if I

817
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: just like sleep, don't smoke cigarettes, stop drinking a lot,

818
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 3: and get a ring light, I might.

819
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: Have a shot.

820
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: I might have a shot at continuing to live. Otherwise

821
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: the world will accept me. I was five seconds away

822
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 4: from getting booted off planet Earth, but now I have

823
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 4: a chance.

824
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: They're throw me into a pit in death Valley.

825
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 4: Holy shit, Oh those are minimal things we can do. Minimal.

826
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: So I watched watched for the first time when I

827
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: was in the hospital. When I was I had a

828
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: surgery a couple of years ago, and I was in

829
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 3: the hospital for a couple of weeks and basically was like, hmm,

830
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: I should watch this show about surgery.

831
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: That's how you know you're on those like great A drugs.

832
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're in a hole, like, yo, this is

833
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: triggering as.

834
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Fuck, But do I care?

835
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 4: No? Uh?

836
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: So I watched Botch, which is essentially that show where

837
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: people go into these two plastic surgeons and say, I

838
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: fucked myself up beyond all recognition.

839
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: I need you to fix me right.

840
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: A lot of like breast inplant nightmares, a lot of

841
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: like too much lip filler, broken noses, whatever. And it

842
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: was funny because I, like, I have not had like

843
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: I said, I never had plastic surgery. The idea of

844
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: plastic surgery for me was always like something that rich

845
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: people did, and so I was kind of like, well,

846
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: I'll never even be able to afford plastic surgery anyway,

847
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: so it doesn't really matter.

848
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: But then now and.

849
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: It's funny because after the Latist situation, was like, oh,

850
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: Latisa is actually not as expensive as I thought. I mean,

851
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: it's still like not cheap. It's a prescription you're and

852
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: you don't. It's never covered by insurance, so it's like,

853
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 3: you know, like a hundred bucks. But I'm just like, huh, well,

854
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: would I ever get any other plastic surgery? Whenever plastic surgery,

855
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: it's not it's not I I'm not equating the two. However,

856
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: once you go down the road, it's just a little bits.

857
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 3: You're like, but what if I got like a couple

858
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 3: of pumps in my lip, Like, look at this upper lip.

859
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: If I just got like two pumps, just stupid.

860
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 2: One here.

861
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I gotta go like full on duck bill,

862
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: but like, look at this, if you just gave me

863
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: a little bit of real estate, like right there, just

864
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: so I don't have like I have no upper lip.

865
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: That is a Filipino thing, thank you, mom. But I'm

866
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: just saying, if I got like two pumps, look at.

867
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: That, that changes a lot, right, it looks like the

868
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: wax lips. I wouldn't touch these.

869
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: The lower lip is fine, but if it's just like

870
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: just do a little left right.

871
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: Hair, Oh good.

872
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: Hell.

873
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm always about and I used to be very anti

874
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: plastic surgery, and like, this is ridiculous. I don't want

875
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 4: it for myself, But I also realize that we can't

876
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: have it both ways. Where we grew up in a

877
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: culture that continually tells people that they are fucked up

878
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: looking and then not expect them to want to do

879
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 4: something about it. So I get it. I get it,

880
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 4: but I also feel like I don't want you to

881
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 4: have plastic surgery and go unpunched. But also, but those

882
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: stories are fascinating to me because it's like I can't

883
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 4: watch that show for the most part, because I can't

884
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: watch surgery is happening, yes, like even in like watching

885
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 4: all the things the suction and like, I can't watch it.

886
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 4: But the few episodes I've watched, I feel like some

887
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: of the stories are just so tragic to me because

888
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: it's clearly people who are like, we are trying to

889
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 4: fix something that somebody else has told us is wrong

890
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 4: with us, and that's always sad to me. But they

891
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 4: always throw in a little humor one which I tend

892
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 4: to appreciate because it's usually like yeah, yeah, like I

893
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 4: got my lips done and this fucked up, like sidewalk

894
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: plastic surgeon used concrete instead of filler. Yeah, Like those

895
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: are kind again still tragic in their own way, but

896
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 4: kind of more lighthearted when you know it can be

897
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 4: fixed well.

898
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: And yeah, And I think it's more that nobody's asking

899
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: any questions where I would be extremely nervous. I'm just

900
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: that type of person where I'd just be like, wait,

901
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: you're injecting what into my body? This is concrete from

902
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: the ground, Like, this is like stuff that you make

903
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: a parking lot with, Like, what the fuck are you doing?

904
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: I feel like I would have a lot of anxiety

905
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: about that, But then there's just people out there who

906
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: are just like cool, like just do it, just do it.

907
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: In a way, it's kind of like fascinating. That show

908
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: is interesting to me because it is like when you

909
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: see the people who have had like multiple procedures, like

910
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 3: when you're like, they just literally can't stop getting those jobs.

911
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 3: I wonder how much money that's cost them, And how

912
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: do you ever think you're done?

913
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: Here's what I can't help but think when I hear

914
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: stories like that that money would have been better spent

915
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: on therapy, but have had better returns and spent a

916
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: lot less. Yeah, because there's something going on there. We're like,

917
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 4: therapy would be helpful for this thing, probably you know

918
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: what I mean.

919
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: It's just so totally but this is also something that

920
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: I know. Listen, I did not.

921
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: Grow up hot.

922
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: I did not I was not hot ever, Like I

923
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: was never hot, And this is don't trust me.

924
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't need you to tell me that I'm beautiful.

925
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: I'm I'm cool, like well of my self esteem is

926
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: just fine, exactly.

927
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: But I was never like a hot.

928
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 3: Chick, okay, And so there's this moment where I'm like, okay,

929
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 3: well I wasn't that, So I don't know what to compare.

930
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 3: I always thought, well, I'll just hopefully just even out,

931
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: like I'll just be fine as I get older, or

932
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: I'll get to a place of acceptance. I'm never comparing

933
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: myself to this like thing all the time, exactly.

934
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 4: That is such a huge difference, because I think a

935
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: lot of plastic surgery is either maintain what I have

936
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 4: and don't want to lose or bring me back to

937
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 4: a certain moment in my timeline. And I don't have

938
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 4: that at all. I'm like, this is whatever's happening now

939
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: is great, Like I am all about this face that

940
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: I have, and I'm all about the body like it

941
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: is all fine because I've never been like that woman either.

942
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 4: And I think that my friend of mine really made

943
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: a good point because she finished watching The Undoing a

944
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, and she has a podcast called

945
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 4: Everything is Fine, It's Fantastic. It's podcast room number forty.

946
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: But she made the point that Hugh Grant and Nicole

947
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 4: Kidman are only seven years apart. He's seven years older

948
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: than her. His face looks like a wrinkled up towel,

949
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: and her she doesn't even have pores anymore. So it's

950
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 4: like the difference in what men and you know, the

951
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: gender difference in what people have to do to maintain

952
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: the way they look. I think that's where a lot

953
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: of that pressure comes in, and where a lot of

954
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: the plastic surgery pressure comes in. And it's like, you know,

955
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 4: you need some people really feel like the need to

956
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: maintain a certain look or a certain level.

957
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sad, and but it's a thing where I'm like, well, yeah,

958
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: I'm aging.

959
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: I am like I can't.

960
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the thing where can't stand a lot

961
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: of the Glosses store anymore.

962
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: Right, We're not fourteen years old.

963
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: And every day I get a little less judge about

964
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: plastic surgery because I'm like, I know it's coming from

965
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: some other thing, and it's coming from something that I

966
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 3: don't have in that way. But and there are actual moments,

967
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: like I'm saying, there are actual moments where I'm like, yeah,

968
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: what if I did get a couple pumps of this

969
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: and some botox for that. Blah blah blah blah. Would

970
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: I look better? Would I look different? It's fascinating, But

971
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, yeah, I'm I think

972
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: that it gets so complicated when you get older, Like

973
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: when you get older, you really start thinking, okay, like

974
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: are we cool still? Are you cool with this? Because

975
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: what if we threw some like gray pubes in there?

976
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 3: Are you still cool with this Varico's veins?

977
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: Are you ready?

978
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: Like, let's go.

979
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 4: That first gray pube is just a shocker. Nobody needs

980
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 4: that it is. There should be support group set up

981
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: for that shit. It is a shocker. Gray hairs in

982
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: my head fine a great an errant gray eyebrow.

983
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: I can deal the first gray pube.

984
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh god, my body is done, Like my

985
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 4: life is shutting down.

986
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Our friend Chile was Sharp. Who is

987
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: this amazing comic from New York. I've known her for

988
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: a very long time because we grew up in Atlanta together.

989
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: But she has this I think it's a joke. I

990
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: want to say she made it into a bit. She

991
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: definitely has talked about it, like amongst her pals about

992
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: when she found her first gray cube, and it's like

993
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: it was that thing where you're just sort of like

994
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 3: holy shit, like wow.

995
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: It's a new level, it's a different era.

996
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 2: It is looking at.

997
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 4: Your body from the outside inn in a way that

998
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: you never have because also I got to say, hot

999
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: on the heels of the gray pube is the gray

1000
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 4: chin hair? Oh yeah, you have about three minutes to

1001
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: adjust to those black, sudden, surprising, thick ass hairs coming

1002
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: out of your chin, and then the next week it's like,

1003
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: oh and now they're all gray and you look like

1004
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: a fucking wizard and you're like, what is happening right now? Oh?

1005
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: It is a rough.

1006
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: Transition, that is That is something I still cannot when

1007
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: I see the gray chin hairs. I don't have enough

1008
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: time in the day to put all the energy that

1009
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 4: I want you into thinking about that.

1010
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: What about ear hair? That's my thing where I was like, oh.

1011
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 4: Man, inside the ear because I'm not there yet.

1012
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, inside the ear. I can always show it

1013
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: to you. And this is not a visual medium, but

1014
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: it's basically it's it's outside.

1015
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: But I saw one on the inside, like right at

1016
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 3: the entrance to the cave.

1017
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: Let's just say that. And I was like I'm going

1018
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: to freak out.

1019
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: Right now, you go catatonic.

1020
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: It was like, do I need one of these ear

1021
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: hair razor things that the sharper image probably makes like

1022
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: because it's for old men.

1023
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they got the tools.

1024
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 4: But it is a no one emotionally prepares us for

1025
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 4: those moments, and that is not something to take lightly

1026
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 4: where you're like, my body is doing things that I

1027
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: cannot control in a very disconcerting way.

1028
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: That is not right. It doesn't feel awesome.

1029
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: I'm not about it. That is again. And it's not

1030
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 4: even it's barely a vanity thing. It's more like, I

1031
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 4: don't understand that this is the moment where this is.

1032
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: I expected this so many years later, like so many more,

1033
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: I thought I had so much more time. I just

1034
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: thought I had more time. And that's what freaks me

1035
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 4: out every time it happens, because I'm like, oh no,

1036
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 4: I'm knocking on the door of menopause. That's right, it's coming.

1037
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 4: And I asked my grandmother because I know it. Sometimes

1038
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 4: it's very genetic in terms of when you get it

1039
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: and how it goes. And I asked my grandma, like,

1040
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 4: you know, what was menopause like for you? And she

1041
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 4: was like, well, you know, I got hot for like

1042
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: a year and you know then it was done. But

1043
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 4: she was sure to throw in but I've had kids,

1044
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: so it'll be different for you. Yeah, And doctors also

1045
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: love to do that where it's like you didn't use

1046
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: your uteruss, so you're gonna have some fucked up shit

1047
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: happening later in life. And I'm like, or not, maybe not,

1048
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 4: Maybe it'll be fine and I'll just have the fucking

1049
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 4: gray Wizard gin hairs to deal with, and you'll give

1050
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: me some goddamn drugs for the rest of it, Like

1051
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 4: what the fuck, Give me some goddamn mug wart or whatever,

1052
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: and let me get on with my day. Stop damning

1053
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 4: my utery.

1054
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I say, like I say these things now,

1055
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: but it is like, well, it's a wait and see.

1056
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 3: It's a wait and see game, because quite honestly, like

1057
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: there are moments where I do catch myself being like,

1058
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 3: oh I'm old today, Like I have the old walk today.

1059
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got out of the wrong side of bed,

1060
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 3: or I simply just got up, you know, like I'm

1061
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 3: just getting up and I'm like, oh, I have the

1062
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: old lady walk where I'm just like hunched over and

1063
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, oh, on the's time to go

1064
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 3: put on my like giant shoes and go for like

1065
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 3: a little walk in the neighborhood.

1066
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you catch yourself in these moments.

1067
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: But then I'm like, I'm a cool young person still

1068
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: right too, Like I have a podcast that's a young

1069
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 3: person thing.

1070
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 2: I know, how do you do my voicemail? That still

1071
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: makes me young?

1072
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: Right, It's like I'm still showing my parents how to

1073
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 3: use an Apple TV like I'm a young baby.

1074
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel the same way.

1075
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: I also feel that way whenever I consider getting another cat,

1076
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 4: because I'm like, oh, I love carrots so much, maybe

1077
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 4: he wants a little friend. And then I have to

1078
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 4: stop myself and think, like, you're single and you are lonely,

1079
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: and if you get a second cat, is that just

1080
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 4: like you're condemning yourself to that life, like you can't

1081
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 4: have I can't get another cat until I have sex again,

1082
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 4: at least one more time, because I will feel like

1083
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 4: the most aged person if I'm like, I'm collecting cats

1084
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 4: and I'm just the gray pubs and the gray every like,

1085
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 4: but I'm collecting cats, like I can't colle like cats

1086
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 4: until life sex again. It is.

1087
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: It is such a thin line between should I get

1088
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: the second cat to like your full on gray gardens

1089
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 3: where you're like feeding raccoons out of the pots and

1090
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 3: pans in your kitchen.

1091
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: It comes out and I just wandered into the house.

1092
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it comes at you fast, and I'm in an apartment,

1093
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 4: so I can't be living that raccoon life just yet. No,

1094
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: you will definitely be my neighbor.

1095
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 3: That's like, you know, essentially screaming at animals all day

1096
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: and night and you just hear that. You hear the

1097
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 3: dry food just hit the floor, and you're like, fuck,

1098
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 3: it's on, baby, this bitch is getting wild tonight.

1099
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 4: You know what's exciting though, now that we got latis

1100
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: gray eyelashes. I'm ready for it.

1101
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 3: Hey, these papers are growing thick, long and gray ring them.

1102
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 3: I'm here for it all day.

1103
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 4: And we'll go to Glossier and be like, gray lashes,

1104
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 4: what's up. Give me some of that stuff that you got,

1105
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 4: whatever it's called, Give me your your eyelash wax. And

1106
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 4: they'll be like, man, we haven't sold that here and

1107
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: forty five years and you're like, give it to me.

1108
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 3: And in about five years, gray lashes will be a

1109
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 3: total thing, and you're gonna have to sit there and

1110
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: be happy with the fact that you're a fucking natural

1111
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: pioneer and everybody's just trying to ape her style.

1112
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 4: I already feel that way with the gray hair. I'm

1113
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: like I used to hear I don't know if you

1114
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 4: if you grew up with this with your parents, but

1115
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: like my grandmother never dyed her hair and would always

1116
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 4: say like I earned my gray hair, like I earned

1117
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: every one of these, and I was like, all right, lady,

1118
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 4: calm down, I'm not challenging you, but now I get

1119
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 4: it where I'm like when I see a new gray

1120
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 4: hair and I'm like, yeah, like I had to wait

1121
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 4: until I was like old enough to deal with taxes

1122
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 4: and fucking like I got like being audited or like

1123
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 4: like this is like a moment that I have earned.

1124
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: So when people intentionally dye their hair gray, I'm like,

1125
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 4: that's a cute aesthetic, but don't comfort me, Like there's

1126
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 4: a whole other lifestyle that goes with that that you

1127
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 4: are not privy to yet.

1128
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: The thing about gray hair that these young ladies and

1129
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 3: men who are dyeing their hair gray don't know is

1130
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: that actual gray hair has the texture of like any

1131
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: hair you've ever seen in your life, and it'll make

1132
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: you think twice, like you have oh, perfect that, like

1133
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 3: perfect model gray hair. I'm like, nah, this shit comes

1134
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: in all like it's like an old mattress on the

1135
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: side of the road. Like this shit is not silky

1136
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: smooth done at a salon.

1137
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 4: No a gray hair one, a single gray hair has

1138
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: the thickness and the texture of like an old Grecian

1139
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 4: fishing net. But there is nothing so like you have

1140
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 4: to use all different products when you have actual gray hair,

1141
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: because it is stronger than cocobeware.

1142
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: It's stronger than any wrestler you've.

1143
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 4: Ever met, and it's thicker than any rope you've ever seen.

1144
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: And it is unruly.

1145
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 3: It's not fun, and I have been like every gray

1146
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: hair that comes out, it's like do I pluck or not?

1147
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: Do I take this out or do I keep it?

1148
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: And the biggest issue it's not the color, it's the texture.

1149
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: The texture is what fucking flips me out because I'm

1150
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 3: sitting here going like it doesn't stay down with the

1151
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 3: rest of the hair.

1152
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 4: It just ping.

1153
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: It's like literally just sticking up like God.

1154
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 3: Dann Albert Einstein, and I'm just like, if it would

1155
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: just tame itself like everything else, then we're great.

1156
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 4: But it's not. Gray hairs are like they're like the

1157
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 4: surly teenager leaning against the wall smoking a cigarette, Like

1158
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 4: I'll come in when I say, oh, when I'm ready

1159
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 4: to come in. I'm not on your time. I don't know.

1160
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 4: My brake's not over till I'm done with what I

1161
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 4: don't need to do. And you're like, all right, I

1162
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: just want to my hair and put it in a ponytail.

1163
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 4: And they're like, not today, not today.

1164
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: Motherfucker, not today, motherfucker.

1165
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's real bad.

1166
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 3: And I don't know. I'm trying to be at peace.

1167
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be at peace, but this shit tests me. Man,

1168
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: these hairs test me.

1169
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 4: I'm excited about and again, you got to find your

1170
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 4: moments of excitement when these things. And I'm excited about

1171
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: my unruly gray hair. I mean, I really feel like,

1172
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: you know, my wizard whiskers. I feel like there's going

1173
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 4: to be a point where I can just look truly

1174
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 4: wild and be okay with it. Like there's a point

1175
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 4: coming where comfort is going to be exceeded by wild wildness.

1176
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: And it's going to be great.

1177
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1178
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 3: I mean what it all boils down to it the

1179
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: earth will be so ravaged by the effects of climate

1180
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: change that it won't even matter what you look like.

1181
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: Your main operative is to not get burned by one

1182
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: hundred and forty five degree weather that is outside of

1183
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 3: your door.

1184
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: No, Kylie, General lipstick's gonna help with that.

1185
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: No one's gonna look cute.

1186
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 4: You're gonna put the Earth is on fire motor oil

1187
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 4: on your lips just to keep them from japping off

1188
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 4: your face. At that point, we're.

1189
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: Gonna be buffing sores off of our body, so it

1190
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

1191
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: No one's gonna look fucking cute.

1192
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna look old as fuck, and we're just gonna

1193
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: have to get used to it.

1194
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 4: So I'm ready me too. This has been an exactly

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00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 4: right production. Our producer is Lauren Elizabeth Brown. Our engineers

1196
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 4: on Alise Nelson. Our social media assistant is Taren Matza.

1197
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 4: Our theme songs by Tom bry Fogel, artwork by Garrett Ross.

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00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 4: Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstark, Karen Coke, Gareth and

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Speaker 4: Danielle Kramer. You can follow us on Instagram and Twitter

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00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,760
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1201
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 4: us a review on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you

1202
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