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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: right off the bat. Yeah, better hands than Odell Beckham.

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast, our big recap of all

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Speaker 1: the action. Hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: with a big contract extensions along and by the way,

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Speaker 1: thanks West for volunteering. You do all those Manzel post alright? Um, alright,

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Speaker 1: So the Ravens and the Browns both go down. What

430
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: about the Steelers another DoD Pittsburgh look flat and listless

431
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 1: in their own building, getting out played and all facets

432
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Speaker 1: of a thirty thirty two loss to the Saints. And

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00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 1: don't be misled by the final score, guys, sixteen points

434
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: in garbage time by Roethlisberger. It doesn't hide the reality

435
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: that Steelers A cannot be trusted and b the Saints

436
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 1: after three straight weeks of getting beaten in their own

437
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: building and and still staying at top of the NFC South,

438
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: but looking so bad as a team. This is a

439
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: really nice win by a team that needed it. The

440
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: battle of lethargy, why that ben fold? Ben fold five?

441
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: The battle of who could care less? Bff drop? This

442
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: was my super Bowl pick before the year, and well,

443
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Speaker 1: listen had to gate. If a Super Bowl was like

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Speaker 1: this thirty five thirty two, I wouldn't have an issue

445
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Speaker 1: inviting me to do my toilet bowl joke again. Yeah,

446
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just opening. I won't do it. I won't

447
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Speaker 1: do it. I don't know. I look at this, I

448
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: look at this team, the Steelers team, and I wonder

449
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Speaker 1: some of it. A lot of Steelers fans are so

450
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: frustrated with Mike Tomlin. Does some of this come back

451
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Speaker 1: to coaching? I mean, why, why is their performance and

452
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: really that even there's some motion on the field so

453
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: up and down? No way to figure this team out?

454
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: And west this is You were so high on them,

455
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: and I get it because we saw enough games where

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Speaker 1: they looked like one of the top teams in the

457
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Speaker 1: a f C, but have had too many of these

458
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: games now where you can never really get behind them

459
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Speaker 1: as a true AFC contender. They are what they are.

460
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: They're an up and down team. They're maddening. They have

461
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: a lot of talent, but they don't know how to

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Speaker 1: put it together. Was Big Ben hurt in this game now?

463
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: Because I saw him, he looked he had Uh. If

464
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Speaker 1: you're a fantasy owner a Big Ben, you're happy with

465
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Speaker 1: his four hundred and fifty yard two touchdown performance. But

466
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Speaker 1: that was the most misleading statistical line I think I've

467
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Speaker 1: ever seen in a game. He was very, very bad

468
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: all game and it started early on where he gets

469
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Speaker 1: hit on a follow through on his on his right wrist,

470
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: and it hurt him enough. And you know, he's a

471
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: big ox Ben Roethlisberger, He's never he never missed his games.

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00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: He always stays in. He's a tough guy. He he

473
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: was handing the ball off left handed initially after that

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Speaker 1: injury happened. Uh, And then he was missing high consistently

475
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: throughout the game. So I wouldn't be surprised if it

476
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Speaker 1: was the type of injury that wouldknock another quarterback out.

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00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: This box scores goofy Yeah. The Saints wide receiver. The

478
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Saints receiving totals begged the question who was covering Kenny

479
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: Stills hundred and sixty two yards and at and no

480
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Speaker 1: one else. Jimmy Graham didn't have a catch in this game.

481
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: And yet uh and Drew Brees and let's give him critics.

482
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: We've been giving him some heat this year for some

483
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: ill time, turnovers and the like, but he played like

484
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Speaker 1: the Drew Brees we know and love through well, I

485
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: don't know if I love Drew Brees, but he threw

486
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Speaker 1: five touchdown passes without an interception and did it. He

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Speaker 1: did it without Jimmy Graham somehow. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: that happened. Um, yeah, but the stat do not. I'm

489
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Speaker 1: one guy who's really upset today, even though his team

490
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: one was Rob Bryan, because the Steelers picked up two

491
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: touchdowns and two point conversions in the last like three

492
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,959
Speaker 1: minutes to make this look like a game, but this

493
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: was not a game. Don't get fooled by that. So

494
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: the Saints are in decent position and playing better now.

495
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: And Rob Bryan's also not happy because he was named

496
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: in a report before the game started that he wasn't

497
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: getting along with Sean Payton, and it sparked Sean Payton

498
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Speaker 1: to go on this huge rant, a bunch of questions

499
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Speaker 1: to start his press conference where he he goes after

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00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: CBS reporter by name, he goes after ESPN and then

501
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: he and then he says, anyone else got anything for me?

502
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: And then they asked Ian Rappaport our NFL media in centers,

503
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: and at that point he was sick. He just said, like,

504
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: next question, I'm done with that. That dude's crazy. But

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Speaker 1: Basically what it said was, we're the best place. How

506
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: did my boy look your lean Mark mark Ingram? I lose.

507
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: I lose track sometimes marketing who has a bigger who

508
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: has a bigger room in the stable? Lean Bell or

509
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 1: market Ingram. I feel like Ingram because everybody knows by

510
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Speaker 1: now that Levy on Bell's green Ingram back on track. Uh,

511
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Speaker 1: he ran for a hundred and twenty yards. I believe

512
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Speaker 1: you look a lot better, you look healthier, and it

513
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: looked more explosive he did. He looked a lot better.

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Speaker 1: The less two weeks I know he had. He was

515
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Speaker 1: around fifty yards each week, so he You know, when

516
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Speaker 1: they have the when you have Ingram running like that

517
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: and Breeze playing cleaner football, That's why anybody that's gonna

518
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Speaker 1: rule out the Saints, uh, surprising someone in January. I'm

519
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: not saying they're gonna go on in a deep run,

520
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: but anybody thinks they can't knock off any team in

521
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: a one game is crazy. This they still could be dangerous,

522
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: want to say, like the the the Yeah, this is

523
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: not going to be a Super Bowl preview, that's very

524
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: obvious at this point, but both could get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to deal with either one of these.

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00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: In a peak performance, they could wipe out almost anyone.

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00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: That's true, So the Steelers, Browns, and Ravens all go down.

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00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: How about the Bengals winners? Uh winning just barely though

529
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals overcame three first half interceptions from Andy

530
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Speaker 1: Dalton to hand the Tampa Bay Buccaneers a fourteen thirteen loss.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling the mail Man tell us how a twelve

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Speaker 1: men on the field penalty might have saved since from

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Speaker 1: a gruesome defeat. Josh McCown hits Louis Murphy for a

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Speaker 1: twenty one yard catch, putting the Bucks in easy field

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Speaker 1: goal range. Marvin Lewis notices the Bucks. I don't know

536
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Speaker 1: if I've ever seen an offense line up information with

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00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: twelve players. Kind of a genius move if the other

538
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: team doesn't catch it, but Marvin Lewis caught it. Challenged

539
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 1: the play. It's not challengeable, but the refs were already

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00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: going to review it anyway, so they end up looking

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Speaker 1: at it and overturning the call. Pushes them out of

542
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: field goal range and they lose the game. This was

543
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: a crazy moment, not crazy in the newsroom. But an

544
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: interesting moment Burger, who's a producer for the network, sitting

545
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: behind his big, big Cincinnati fan, Michael ber It's you

546
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: make it sing. He's one name like Madonna the NFL

547
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: the show I forgot. I didn't even I forgot his

548
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: name is Michael. I just knew him as Burger. But

549
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: he he's a big Bengals fan and he's screaming at

550
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: at Marvin Lewis saying, how is he called? Why would

551
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: he call time out there? He's on the rules committee.

552
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: But Marvin Lewis give him credit. He well, he got

553
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: give credit to the guy upstairs who in his earpiece

554
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: was saying challenge a challenge to do something because they

555
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: have the twelve men and that I mean just a

556
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: wild play. You don't see a lot. And Dean Blandino,

557
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: the VP of Vision, he says for up for all

558
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: the good work that Marvin Lewis did, He says, it

559
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't have mattered that they had already flat that they

560
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: can't stop until the moment that the bucks line up

561
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: to snap it, So they have to wait until that

562
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: moment to then stop it. For some reason, it saved

563
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: the Bengals from Well. Andy Dalton had one of the

564
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: worst first half of any quarterback all year, and in

565
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: his defense, Marvin Lewis said, he was thrown up all

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Speaker 1: night and we did a couple of I vs. To play.

567
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: It was like it was like the Michael Jordan's flew game,

568
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: except he actually stunk. Yes, that's a great that's a

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00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: great comparison. Greg, He's exactly like the Michael Jordan. I

570
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: want us. I nominated us to have any different Michael

571
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Jordan's analogy every week on Andy Dalton falls a tad

572
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: short of Odell Beckham. If the Bengals weren't the Bengals

573
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: and they didn't have a very difficult schedule down the stretch,

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00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: you'd have to say they almost have the Division one

575
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: at this point. A game and a half with four

576
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: to play is is pretty huge lead. It's essentially a

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00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: two game lead with four to play. But their schedule

578
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: is tough, and they are the Bengal. Those are two

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00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: very big but they are the Bengals. But are the

580
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: Bengal is more known for blowing it once January hits.

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00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: I feel like they're they're not the team that will

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00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: tank in December. They'll probably win what they need to

583
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: get in team doesn't have the field of me of

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00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: one that's gonna totally nose dive over the next month. Right,

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00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: I guess what I mean is two and two from them.

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00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: With the results that happened today, there's a good chance

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00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: that two and two gets them the a f C

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00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: North title. That's all you gotta do. Then we get

589
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: to the playoffs where they could mess up a junkyard.

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00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: All right, So the Bengals gained some breathing room atop

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Speaker 1: of their division. The Cults, meanwhile, kept their cushion a

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00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: top the a f C South thanks to Andrew Luck.

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00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: I like that the great TV who passed for three

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Speaker 1: seventy yards and five touchdowns and win over the Washington Redskins.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, I turned to you once again. I heard

596
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: you're excited yelps and moans while watching this one. Andrew

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00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: Luck was at his best after a shaky start. Wasn't well.

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00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: A lot of this was about the defense he was playing.

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00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: What was going on in my deads t The quotes

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00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: have wide receivers running free all game. Just a game

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00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: full of blown coverages by the Redskins. The Colts are

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00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: the first team since nineteen sixty six. Was six touchdowns

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00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: over thirty yards in one game. Um, Kobe Fleaner looked

604
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: great again except for the worst drop. It would have

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00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: been a fifth another fifty two yard touchdown. Nobody within

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00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: thirty yards of him. He's got the whole field to

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00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: himself and dropped the ball. But he looked good. And

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00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: to me, they finally moved Dante Moncrief ahead of a

609
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: Cheam Knicks and it's a much more explosive offense because

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Speaker 1: it's clear of the last month that Reggie Wayne lost

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Speaker 1: the staff. He missed two big plays last week because

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Speaker 1: he didn't have the speed. So Mine Creef gives them

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00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: a big weapon and Fleaners playing great. Those two guys,

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00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: to me, are better than Wayne right now. I love

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Speaker 1: this from the box score. Boom Heron eight carries eighty

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Speaker 1: eight yards, Trent Richardson eight carries twelve yards. Can we

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00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: just move on? Just where were all the plays? There

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Speaker 1: were no plays by the Colts, like how did Andrew

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Speaker 1: luckily have twenty seven throws? And you just mentioned those

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Speaker 1: rushing totals? Tell us about t rich though, that's that's

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Speaker 1: it's abundantly clear that he's he's no good in boom

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Speaker 1: Herron's averaging almost eight yards of carry since a Mob

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Speaker 1: Brad show went down for the season. But he's also

624
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: put the ball on the carpet three times in two weeks.

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00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: That's how good the Colts are. That they scored forty

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Speaker 1: nine points in forty nine plays. I've never heard such

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Speaker 1: a thing. Well, I mean, that's an unbelievably low number

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Speaker 1: of plays, especially considering you scored forty nine points in

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Speaker 1: the game. We know they murder bad teams. I mean

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Speaker 1: they just they take bad teams apart, and they don't

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Speaker 1: do as well against good teams. Luck has nine four

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Speaker 1: hundred yard games this year, which is more than Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning ever had for the Colts. Wait, Colt McCoy three

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Speaker 1: d and ninety two yards and three touchdowns talking about

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00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: the real cult in this game? What is the box?

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Speaker 1: Were naow in there is? Qbr was twenty six point seven,

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00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: which is pretty bad, so the box scores. Obviously, he couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Luck turned the ball over on the first two series

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Speaker 1: of the game, and quote McCoy couldn't respond with any

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00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: kind of movement on offense. They didn't really move the

641
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: offense until the last drive of the second half, and

642
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: this game kind of got out of control with the

643
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: nature of it, and he was able to lead a

644
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: couple of scoring drives in the second half, but it

645
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: really didn't impress me at all. They had nineteen yards

646
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: I believe, with like a few minutes left in the

647
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: first half, so they were always trailing. But still it

648
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: is crazy how much the numbers are devalued. That like

649
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Coote McCoy doing three whatever, Yeah, you know, I mean

650
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: that used to be in the in fantasy football in

651
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: two thousand five. It's like, oh my god, everyone's talking

652
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: about the crazy game. Same thing to what you said

653
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: about the Luck Manning thing. It's just four yards is

654
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: like the new almost right. Yeah, you expect the Colts

655
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: to get four hundred yards every week. And one of

656
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: the reasons Coote McCoy played well his numbers coincided with

657
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: Vante Davis leaving with a concussion, and we've seen the

658
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: Colts defense now without they Vante Davis also got injured

659
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: in the game where where Ben Roethlisberger went wild with

660
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: one of the best games ever. It's good news for

661
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: Johnny Man's heel. Potentially next week. No Vonte Davis big

662
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: game against the Colts. Alright, we move on. Hey guys,

663
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders stank. Oakland responded to its first win of

664
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: the season by getting horrifically embarrassed fifty two nothing to

665
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: the St. Louis Rams. Give it up, Mark Sessler. The

666
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: Rams are the best five and seven team history. Man.

667
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: They look good today, and it's this was maybe the

668
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: best effort by Brian Schottenheimer. I've taken a town probably

669
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: seventy five times on this podcast. I like that he

670
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: didn't take his foot off the gas once they got

671
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: up early. They were up to twenty one. Nothing with

672
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: with you know, the first corner wasn't even over, and

673
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: they didn't get conservative, which I think we've seen the

674
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: Rams do. They devolved from whatever their early game plan is.

675
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: They got big performances. You know, this is another box

676
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: score that's a little deceiving because Sean Hill had almost

677
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: all his passing yards in the first twenty minutes and

678
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: then they just kind of they didn't need him to

679
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: make those big plays. But they got a big game

680
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: from Train Mason hundred seventeen on the ground. He broke

681
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: away a big run. Oakland is a disaster they cannot

682
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: run the ball, and they put their rookie quarterback in

683
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: a tough situation every week. What what's disturbing is you'd

684
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: like to see, after what they did to the Chiefs,

685
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: some sustainability, some progress total total opposite this defense they've

686
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: given up. I think it is in the last three

687
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: seasons under mackenzie are their most points allowed year after

688
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: year after year, and like eons and yet we everything

689
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: we hear is that he'll be back for another season.

690
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. And I also and it's

691
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: way too early to make any judgments on Derek Carr,

692
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a little curious because the way

693
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: you hear, you're hearing from their organization that they they

694
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: think they've located that guy. Are you guys convinced that

695
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: he is, uh maybe the guy that's ahead of the

696
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: rest of this rookie class or not at all? He

697
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: has the highest three and out percentage of any quarterback

698
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: since Alex Smith's rookie year. They didn't he doesn't move

699
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: the offense. I'm not convinced either either way with him.

700
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: It's tough to evaluate a guy like him playing for

701
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: that team. But I also don't feel particularly excited. Why

702
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: did we see a mat shop pick six today? Why

703
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: was he in the game because the score? Yeah, it

704
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: was just it's just like, let's not get dere is

705
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: a good tweet from Howard Belzer that just crossed over here.

706
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: Raiders ran seventy five plays average just three point three

707
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: yards per play. The Rams at forty nine plays average

708
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: seven point one. That is the definition of an absolute

709
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: one thing on car. Because I think it is too

710
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: early to say that they've found anything. They don't know,

711
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: but they really he is surrounded by so little. I

712
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: think there's no one helping him on any level. I

713
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: look at this as a clutch performance by Derek Carr.

714
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: You know, he saw that they tied the Jaguars in

715
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: in the wind total. You know with that last one.

716
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Let's not blow this number one pick Jacksonville quarter to nothing,

717
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: get the number one pick. Can we stop acting like

718
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: Tony Sprawno is doing a better job than Dennis own

719
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: They now have a worst point differential under a Sprawno

720
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: than they do under all the balls. This is like

721
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: an elevator where the wires were cut and it's just

722
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: shooting towards the depths of the earth. Nothing halftime. Uh,

723
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: differential was the worst in in franchise history. I know

724
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: we don't want to linger too much on this game,

725
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: but it has to be frustrating for Rams fans to

726
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: keep having this season over and over where by the

727
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: end you're looking at train Mason you're like, Wow, that

728
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: guy is gonna be a star, Like, wow, we got

729
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: Chris longback. Our defense is awesome. But it's just the

730
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: same thing again and again. Seven and nine. That's just

731
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: people like us saying they're the greatest five and seventeen.

732
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: It's like, but that's four years in a row or

733
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: three years. Everybody like everybody padding less need on the

734
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: head and telling what an amazing job he's doing. Every

735
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: single year Fisher has been peeking just in time to

736
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: go seven and nine like they always all right. So

737
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: speaking of stink, Hey New York Football Giants, you stink.

738
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: The Giants lost season hit a low point on Sunday

739
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. They blew one second quarter lead, lost to

740
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, the Jaguars, who entered this game with one win.

741
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Connor Or the Giants have lost seventh straight. And this

742
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: to me, buddy, how are you by the way I'm

743
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: doing well, how are you great? Great? Great? How was

744
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: the library on Thanksgiving? The Haunted Library? Oh it was

745
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: great because he mixed that that old book smell with

746
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: the turkey and the sweet potatoes and fantastic across my nostrils. Now.

747
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, so losing seven or a row now the Giants,

748
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: that's and have lost like this against the maybe the

749
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: worst team in football that's not the Raiders. This is

750
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: how coaches get fired, right, even ones with two rings,

751
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, you know, the way that

752
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: I was looking at it before this game was I

753
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: thought they might be able to kind of pacify their

754
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: fans by firing Perry Fuel at the end of the

755
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: season and then and then letting everything run its course

756
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: like they planned to. But uh, you know, they're They're

757
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: a team that they likes to make sound decisions. But

758
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: when they're embarrassed, I think all cards around the table,

759
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: and they got absolutely embarrassed. There's there's no other way

760
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: to say it. Connor, I heard you say that some

761
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: grizzly rumors are set to emerge from East Rutford. Care

762
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: to go further on that, Well, I think right now,

763
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: like you know this, this is around the time last

764
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: year that that we started kind of hearing about um

765
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: the in fighting, that that people weren't happy with Kevin

766
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: Gilbride in the way that things were going, and eventually, um,

767
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: you know, things happen the way that they did, things

768
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: ran their course. UM. I wouldn't be shocked if, you know,

769
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: we start kind of hearing some things trickle out and

770
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: that will kind of lead us to to to where

771
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: the organization is going to lay the blame, whether that's

772
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: whether they look at someone that's kind of been heading

773
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: their drafts for the last you know, six or seven years,

774
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: whether they look at the head coach, whether the look

775
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: of the general manager. I think it will be interesting

776
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: to kind of see where that goes, because I think

777
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: it could really go either way. And Connor, you used

778
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: to cover them and used to be the beat guy, uh,

779
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: covering the Giants, So you know more than anyone that

780
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: we have a very good chance in West. I know

781
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: you'll be excited about this for this to be a

782
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: big entrell role week in the media. Make it stop. Uh.

783
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: It's uh that that was always one of the worst

784
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: parts of the beat week because you were tired and

785
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: Tuesday was your day off, and then he would go

786
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: on the san and like he would say that they

787
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: were going to go to the playoffs even though they

788
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: were mathematically eliminated, and then you still have to like

789
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: figure out a way to kind of make make something

790
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: of that. But yeah, I know this will be a

791
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: big week for him. I think if I if I

792
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: remember the intro role playbook correctly, this will be like

793
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: the if Tom Coplan leaves, I'm leaving a week or

794
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: something like that. I think I'd rather hear from Joe

795
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: Tisman than Andrell Role at this point. Anything that you

796
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: saw from the Jaguar is that made you say, wow,

797
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: that's interesting. I mean, you know, Lake Bortles wasn't that

798
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: bad down the stretch. I mean, you know, they scored

799
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: a majority of their points on defense, but I mean

800
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: he needed to lead them down the field and put

801
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: them in field goal position at the end of the game,

802
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: and uh he hit markis Lee and stride and it

803
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: was a beautiful stude plant path and then uh he

804
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: ran the read option pretty perfectly. I mean, the Giants

805
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: can't defend the read option. That's been pretty apparent all year,

806
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, he made work of that and

807
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: got them in the field. Goal range. I'm compressed. I mean,

808
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: he made some terrible throws in that game, but I

809
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: think if they get an offensive line, he's gonna be

810
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: a really he's going to be a stud down there.

811
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: He would He led the team in rushing. That's not

812
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: really what they were looking looking for sixty years. Maybe

813
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: that was that was the one thing he did well

814
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: in the preseason. Is the Hurry episode? Maybe that was

815
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: his time. Who smells an m j D homecoming in

816
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen? Yeah? Maybe the Jackson goal radio, that's yeah.

817
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody putting him in uniform next year.

818
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: All right? Are the Toby Gerhard apologists ready to do

819
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: it for that? Or is that? Is that too far

820
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: away from I don't think too soon. All right, Connor,

821
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: thank you for everything, and as always, beware of flying books. Alright, boys,

822
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: So if we're gonna talk about struggling teams, we have

823
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: to touch on the earth. While team of a t L,

824
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings blocked and returned two punch for two

825
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: punts for touchdowns in the first half, getting all the

826
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: scoring they need in a win over the Carolina Panthers.

827
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: Just another lost day in a lost season. Guys for

828
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: the Panthers who can't do anything right. They had a

829
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: chance to to still be playing meaningful games, but now

830
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: they're a game and a half back in the NFC South.

831
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: And maybe now it's time for Ron River and Dave

832
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: Gettleman to just stop talking about contending. And I don't

833
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: know what they can do to look towards next year,

834
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: but in time for the Panthers to not appear on

835
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: this also in the running in the NFC playoffs. Take

836
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: the Bears off? Can take the Panthers off? Can Riverboat?

837
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: Ron be fired one year after signing a contract extension?

838
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Now do you put this on him? I would fire

839
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: him sim pleef for for playing D'Angelo Williams over Jonathan

840
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Stewart when it is so abundantly clear watching the tape

841
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: that one is way better than the other. Stewart, I

842
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't think he started, but he

843
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: did get twelve carries the seven for D'Angelo had a

844
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: nice day twelve or eighty five, So maybe he's listening

845
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: to the podcast. It took him three months. Are we

846
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: excited about Teddy Bridgewater at all? I'm not. When I

847
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: watched him, I think those comparisons to Andy Dalton and

848
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: the people out in the draft, It's like, yeah, that

849
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: seems about right, you know what I mean that that's

850
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: not bad, that's that's better than a bust. But it

851
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: seems like it could be. That's the type of quarterback is.

852
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: I see him as like Alex Smith, where you're going

853
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: to have to surround him with a strong running game,

854
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: strong offensive line, strong defense. He's got to have all

855
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: that structure around him because I don't think he can

856
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: carry an offense. He's got more around him than you're

857
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Derek Carrs or your Blake Bortles. And there's been a

858
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: couple of games where he's been incredibly unimpressive. I think

859
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: today was one of his better performances though, But they

860
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: it was like last week against Greenby. I was I

861
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: was turning the unexpecting him to play well, and it

862
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: was just like he basically just stayed out of the way.

863
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean even in this game they had two yards total.

864
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't need it because they got two

865
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: blocked Hunt returns for a touchdown that never happens. It

866
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: hadn't happened since insane. I'm gonna invite you guys if

867
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: you want to come join me in the Cordarold Patterson

868
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: cave of sadness. Did not start for the third straight week.

869
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into any caves of do

870
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: we have an echo effect t D behind the glass,

871
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: a cave of we need a cave of sadness. Well, look,

872
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have that. He not only didn't start,

873
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: he didn't play in the entire first half. We only

874
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: took like one snap. Yeah, he got one target in

875
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: the game, no catches, and you know we can't say no,

876
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: we as a group were so high on him. That's

877
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: a major problem for an organization that a guy that

878
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: was supposed to become their star is now completely absent

879
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: from their game one. It's pretty listen practice twice in

880
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: the week when you have Charles Johnson on your roster

881
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: that when you know these shie touted, he's getting more

882
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: targets than anyone Today. He had two catches for he's

883
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: had He's had targets the last two weeks. I shouldn't

884
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: be so excited about this because he could be catching

885
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: passes alongside Josh Gordon in a beautiful world. Well that's

886
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: a fair point, but I wasn't excited to see them

887
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: part ways unless I still want to be right about

888
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: the fact that he'll be good. I want to give

889
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer a little cry. He is having the perfect

890
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: rookie coach season because he's winning just enough to show you, hey,

891
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: here's a good head coach. We're five and seven, we're better.

892
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: The defense has something. But he's not gonna raise expectations

893
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: too high with a lousy team. Now that's a hot take,

894
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Sperrano action with Miami, just

895
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: how to dance on that line of mediocrity like a

896
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: good head coach. I do like this idea of a

897
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: cave of sadness, so maybe other players will be in

898
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: this cave of sadness and then we can It's the

899
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: opposite of West's stable of boy you don't want to be.

900
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: It's like it's basically like your fantasy team you look

901
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: at like, yeah, like a map like the Game of Thrones,

902
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: where I have the different areas sectors. There is West

903
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: of stable boys, Greg stable Boys, jon Sessler's Forest of

904
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: Happiness and wonder, and then the cave of saidness. A

905
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: lot of places like Jonas. I feel like Jonas Gray

906
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: has been in the Cave of Sadness for did he

907
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: run over Belichick's dog on the way something one of

908
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: the facility after oversleeping one of the great opening tracks

909
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: of any nineties album. I love to imagine Jonas Gray

910
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: and I'm sure this has never happened to him in

911
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: his life, and he has no idea that Weezer exists,

912
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: But just driving around in his station wagon listening to

913
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: that song, I'm sure I'm sure he knows, because I'm

914
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: sure a bunch of Dow Foust thirty five year old

915
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: guys in Patriots jerseys have come up to him and

916
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: told them about It's wicked awesome. All right, let's talk

917
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: about a relevant team. The Houston Texans are still in

918
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: the ANFC playoff race. Yes they are, Chris Westling, they

919
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: wrote career performances from west, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and DeAndre Hopkins

920
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: to over the Titans who stink on Sunday to stay

921
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: in that race. Even Chris Westling, the president of the

922
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick Hayter Club, had to tip his hat to

923
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: the Harvard kid. Six touchdowns, no interceptions, a dominant performance.

924
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: I'm just straight dominance. Greg hates uh Also rands who

925
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: are put in the also in the hunt category like

926
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: the Bears, but he delights in seeing the Texans there.

927
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: I do not. I'm happy to make an editorial judgment.

928
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: Get the Texans out of it. There's six and six.

929
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: They can they can hang in the back end until

930
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: they get one more loss. You had dodged the subject,

931
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. This is what this team is. I didn't

932
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: see the game, all right. I saw enough of Fitzpatrick

933
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: this year and in his six or seven year career

934
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: to know that he's not a playoff quarterback. This is

935
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think we all agree with you

936
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: that Ryan Fitzpatrick is not a franchise quarterback or not

937
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: a guy that should be seen as a long term answer.

938
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: But this is exactly the game why this guy is

939
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: going to be in the league for another five years

940
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: or so, whether it's going to be as a bridge

941
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: guy like he is now or is a straight backup

942
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: and West. I'm just gonna read the stats because they're

943
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 1: so insane. Six more years of Ryan Fitzpatrick get exciting.

944
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: Twenty four thirty fifty eight yards, six touchdowns, no interceptions,

945
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: and by the way, these were there were some expert

946
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: passes in the mix here and but I'll let me

947
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: give it really give it up to DeAndre Hopkins, who

948
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: is I think the best wide receiver on the Texans.

949
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: He's making the leap, making the leap in a big way.

950
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: Nine for two thirty eight and two t ds. That's

951
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 1: an average of twenty six yards per reception. This guy

952
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: was going nuts in this game. He could not be covered. Yeah,

953
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: but by the way, I mean, this is a total

954
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: aberration for Ryan Fitzpatrick will travel half a decade and

955
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: see nothing close to this ever again from him. But yes,

956
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: I just say it's suddenly the Texans have a playoff

957
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: quarterback leading the Who said that. I don't. I'm not

958
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: saying that that's all now. He just simply they're gonna

959
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: go stunning. By the way, all right, I hope I

960
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: never have nobody like, wow, you just get back to

961
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: your crappy performance from before. I was taking a page

962
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: from the Boss's book. Less rubbed off on you there.

963
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: But let's talk about if you really want to talk

964
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: about an actual big time player. J J. Watt another

965
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: touchdown catch, Oh my god, Well he had to start

966
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: touchdown catch in the year. But he also had two

967
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: more sacks he had a strip, a fumble, strip of

968
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: fumble recovery and the third touchdown six QB hits. He

969
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: inc he also, by the way, and he might get

970
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: fined for that, by the way, because he knocked Zach

971
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: Mettenberger out of this game with a shoulder injury after

972
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: Mettenberger let go of the ball. And if you remember, J. J.

973
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: Watt has some history with Mettenberger because he got on

974
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Mettburger for selfies and things of the like. So I

975
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: think that there's a reason why he kind of pile

976
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: drive them into the turf, good prosecuting at jump all

977
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: over that, and to be honest with you, like I

978
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: think that that seemed the little tiny bit of malice

979
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: involved there. I'm sure what because he was down on

980
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: his knee near him after the injury. Didn't he didn't

981
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: want it to go that way, but he did try

982
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: to punish him and he put him out of the game.

983
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: Of course, Jake Locker comes in. What does he do

984
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: on his first throw interception? I think he threw three

985
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: picks in the game. That guy is terrible. So, you know,

986
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on with Mettenburger, how long

987
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: he might be out if he's gonna miss time. But

988
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: this was the day that the Texans said, take me seriously,

989
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: one more week. Wait to recap. For all the any

990
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Houston like bloggers listening out there, the headline should be

991
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: Dan hansis colon. J. J. Watt's a dirty player. And

992
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: that's pretty much yes for all the different websites. I'm

993
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: a jerk. You've had you've had. Actually, if long time

994
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: listeners will remember, you've had some beef with Houston area people,

995
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: that's true. They laughed on me on national or on

996
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: Houston radio when they came on. I came on the show,

997
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: and then they they came after me for saying that

998
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: the Texans are gonna go eight and eight. This was

999
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: last year, last August, and they said, how dare you?

1000
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: This is a super Bowl team. Then they go, what

1001
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: two and fourteen or whatever it was four and twelve.

1002
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but they try to set me

1003
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: up and then I knocked it out of the park.

1004
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: They don't come back after Dan. He's gonna be right again.

1005
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: Gave me alone, all right. Moving on, which takes us

1006
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: to Sunday Night football where C. J. Anderson went over

1007
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: a hundred yards for the second consecutive game leading a

1008
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: Broncos team that will rely on the run, and got

1009
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: a lot out of the run in the win over

1010
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead. Chris Westling. Usually in

1011
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: these primetime games were used to al and Chris or

1012
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: whoever is doing the game singing the praise of Peyton Manning,

1013
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: but this was not that game. Shocker, blustery night, Wendy

1014
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: cool and Peyton Manning had his lowest completion percentage since

1015
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine in the gather zone and he

1016
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: was in the gabb zone on yards per temple for

1017
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: the first time this season. I think this team they

1018
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: want to run the ball now because it keeps defenses

1019
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 1: from blitzing Peyton Manning, which we saw the Rams do successfully.

1020
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: And their offensive line is maybe the best offensive line

1021
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: since since Manning has been there, with Will Montgomery taking

1022
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: over at center. Luis Fasquet is kicking out the right tackle,

1023
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: and they've been using jumbo packages a lot more to

1024
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: establish the run. Sideist alert c J. Anderson's legit and

1025
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned he's the league leader in yards from scrimmage

1026
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: and rushing over the last four weeks. When they get

1027
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: Ronnie Hillman healthy. Forget Monty Ball. Don't even get Monty

1028
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: ball the BA I mean, that's a nice one to punch.

1029
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: I think they compliment each other well. Anderson has power,

1030
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: he cuts well too, but he makes people miss. He's

1031
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: running people over. Everyone wants to praise the offensive line, sure,

1032
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: but they're not the ones running people over. And another

1033
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: dominant performance by their defense. Who they gave Alex Smith

1034
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: hell for four quarters in this game, and you know

1035
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: DeMarcus ware Um and Ron Miller were in the backfield

1036
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: all game. To me, we've come back to this a

1037
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: couple of times this season so far. This just to me,

1038
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: it seems like a better, more balanced Sproncos team. I

1039
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: guess it matters. The big question is is Manning near

1040
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: what Manning was last year? And if he is, then

1041
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: that they should be in great shape in the playoffs,

1042
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: as much as they seem to be overlooked a little

1043
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: bit right now. Well, I think Manning, as long as

1044
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: the conditions are perfect and it's not Wendy, he's the

1045
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: same guy he's always been. They're not gonna be perfect.

1046
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: Big deal in Denver or Foxborough most likely in late January.

1047
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: I think he's always depended. Well, not always, but since

1048
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: he's come back from the surgery when his arm was

1049
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: obviously one of the weakest in the league. It's always

1050
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: more about win than than temperature. I think there's so

1051
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: much that I don't like about this game. First of all,

1052
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: bad game, Chiefs. You got, you got to the point

1053
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: where we were singing your praises here on the podcast.

1054
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: Then you get on national TV in a prime time

1055
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: game back to back weeks and just stinkers. I mean

1056
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: both games were so bad. Remember we were thinking this

1057
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: is going to be the game for the AC West.

1058
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: From week two until week eleven, they looked, you know,

1059
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: as good as any team in the a f C

1060
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: in the big picture there, well, maybe not that level,

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Speaker 1: but they're playing very well on a week to week basis,

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Speaker 1: and you're right, they stunk out to join them both weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to take them seriously after losing

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Speaker 1: to the Raiders and at home to the Broncos. In

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Speaker 1: a convincing manner, if you're having a hard time getting

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Speaker 1: your kids to sleep, just put the Chiefs game on.

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Speaker 1: This is the most som an ambulant team in the league. Well,

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Speaker 1: they they're playing the who can get out of their

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Speaker 1: funk ball next week in Arizona, get out the phone

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Speaker 1: and that really is a game for both teams that

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Speaker 1: it's like the winner of that game if you look

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Speaker 1: at the schedules, like all right, there, they're in the

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Speaker 1: playoff mix. I mean, the Chiefs almost have to win

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Speaker 1: it the Cardinals. If they can win that, then it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough for them not to make it. I

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Speaker 1: don't like Alex Smith against the Cardinal secondary. My favorite

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Speaker 1: stat of the day was Andrew Luck entered this game

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Speaker 1: with more touchdown passes that traveled over twenty yards in

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Speaker 1: the air. Then Alex Smith had a empty passes twenty

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Speaker 1: yards in the year of this season. Wow. I would

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Speaker 1: love to reanimate James Brown and get get out the

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Speaker 1: fun for next week because I can't pull it off.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to try? Well, I know, I'm just

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Speaker 1: glad the falsett is back in the show. T D.

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Speaker 1: T you got sold and you can't want to do

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Speaker 1: a little James Brown impression. That's hounny, like a little

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Speaker 1: false a little funk from t D. Can you give

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Speaker 1: me a little James Brown. He's not letting you off

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Speaker 1: the hunt there, t D. I was trying to stay

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Speaker 1: quiet the whole show and just go with drops only.

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Speaker 1: But uh, that's right, let's let's trow this again. What

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Speaker 1: is it down for? Certain the bag? All right? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I guess that means you cannot do it. But

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Speaker 1: see if you can reanimate James Brown. That would be

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Speaker 1: weird but cool. All Right, that's it for Sunday's edition

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Speaker 1: of The Round the NFL podcast. We will be back

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Uh so make sure you tune in for that.

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Speaker 1: Check us out iTunes and stitcher and our stuff on

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Speaker 1: NFL Now and all that good stuff that Dan had,

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Speaker 1: the signing up for the Sizzler and the Mailman, the

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Speaker 1: Boss and the Great t d Behind the Glass see

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Speaker 1: Wednesday