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Speaker 1: Every day, pick up the breakfast club morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is the j Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne de goud

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Speaker 2: We are the breakfast Club La La Roses here as well,

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Speaker 2: and we got a special guest in the buildings.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Ari Lennox, welcome back already.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling.

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Speaker 4: Feel a good?

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Speaker 1: How's your energy this morning? Good?

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Speaker 4: Amazing? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And holly favored?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, me too.

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Speaker 1: Vacancy is out right.

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Speaker 4: Now, that's right. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Vacancy can mean a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: It can mean emptiness, yep, it can mean opportunity.

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Speaker 5: What exactly became vacant in your life that allowed this

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Speaker 5: version of Ari Lennox to exist and create this project.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just the repetitiveness of my dating life. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The album encompasses avoid that needs to be filled, and

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Speaker 4: that can be romantic, it can be platonic. It can mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, in a business way, it's just a metaphor

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Speaker 4: or whatever that means to you.

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Speaker 1: You know, is it platonic?

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Speaker 6: We got let's forget biopic biopics. I think depending on

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Speaker 6: how you.

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Speaker 1: Can be having us saying the wrong word, is it

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Speaker 1: supposed to be?

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Speaker 4: Yes? You're the person, all right, camera, that's lovely.

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Speaker 6: So on this project, you go in and out of

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Speaker 6: your space, whether it's your heart, your physical space, and

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Speaker 6: maya energy being vacant then being occupied then not. It's

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Speaker 6: all over place. But it's a good journey. But so

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Speaker 6: where are you in real life after this album? In

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Speaker 6: the dating world? Like what like?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just alone, but.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 4: It is thirty four years of like romantic loneliness. But

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Speaker 4: it's cool. No, it's all right. I'm doing great. I'd

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Speaker 4: rather be by myself than in anything toxic or unhealthy.

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Speaker 4: So it is what it is, you know, I'm okay,

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Speaker 4: turn it up though, I to turn up, which is

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Speaker 6: You own house Cats, you said you be wanting.

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Speaker 4: To and right here, I have this hot water.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have no damn t in

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Speaker 2: the club that night.

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Speaker 4: But you saw me years ago, years ago.

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Speaker 2: No, I was like, what two years ago?

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Speaker 4: Last year? Last year? Oh yeah, I had my hookah

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Speaker 4: I stopped. I had to stop though. Yeah, I made

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Speaker 4: a pack of the man. It's okay. I mean last

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Speaker 4: year I wasn't singing, but this year I am. So

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Speaker 4: we got a tour coming up, you know, the Vacancy

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Speaker 4: tour starts April twelfth, So yeah, I want to be

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Speaker 4: vocally prepared for it. So no more hookah for me.

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Speaker 6: But so, but you're still on your sobriety journey right

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Speaker 6: drinking want but you said you made a pack with

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Speaker 6: the man. That's what made you stop? Yes, what happened

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Speaker 6: to that made you said? He was horrible, he.

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Speaker 4: Was trifling, he had a secret girlfriend, or he had

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Speaker 4: a girlfriend. I guess I was the secret and I

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Speaker 4: had no idea and I haven't spoke to him since

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Speaker 4: once he told me. So you don't like her?

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Speaker 1: You never liked the Escape song You're my little Secret.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't be I do.

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Speaker 4: Love that song. I love escape, So yeah, I could

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Speaker 4: not be a secret. No, but I do love that song.

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Speaker 4: They was singing, somebody want to keep You a Secret.

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Speaker 4: I think it just speaks to the state of dating

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Speaker 4: out here. It's just incredibly depressing. I feel like for everybody.

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Speaker 4: You know, So it is what it is?

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Speaker 6: Are there songs on this project about him? I know

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Speaker 6: that you've been working on this for some time from him?

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Speaker 6: Hell no, okay, because under the Moon talks about somebody

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was someone else. Oh that was one of

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Speaker 4: my exes. And I don't even know if he counts

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Speaker 4: Oh, my god Jesus, like, thank yoush face than you

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Speaker 3: Don't look confused, he was confused.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: You know that that depends, right, Did you have a

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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I don't feel like I loved him. I

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Speaker 4: I don't believe it was love at all. Probably just infatuation,

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Speaker 4: which I said it is just that repetitive theme. I

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Speaker 4: I'm a lot more aware of it now, those red

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Speaker 2: Do you like trust fast when it comes to dating?

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Speaker 4: I do, I do, But I don't think it's love.

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Speaker 5: Why can't you just love sexual? If somebody flips you

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Speaker 4: A song, I love it.

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Speaker 5: Why can't you just love the physical act?

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Speaker 1: Why does it have to be anything else.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to be in love clearly?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Do you think you've ever been?

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Speaker 5: You're in therapy, right, And I go to therapy a

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Speaker 5: you that your first, last, and best love is self love,

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Speaker 5: Like you can't love anybody else. Yeah, until you truly

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. My therapist is amazing. She has me doing these

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Speaker 4: how long therapy has happened. She's been telling me that

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Speaker 4: I need to read this book called The Courage to Trust,

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Speaker 2: Is it the trust issues?

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Speaker 4: Huh?

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Speaker 2: Is it the trust issues because you are a celebrity?

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Speaker 2: You are, so it's understanding why somebody's coming into your space?

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Speaker 1: Is it because they really like me?

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Speaker 2: Is it they love the idea of what's going on

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Speaker 2: that a big trust issue when it comes to you?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, how do you.

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Speaker 4: I have every right to have trust issues in that regard.

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Speaker 4: I think men think I'm this barbie like they see

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you learned?

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Speaker 3: Like you learned, you learned something new about yourself and

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Speaker 4: Like I realized, oh, okay, I have an anxious attachment style,

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Speaker 4: And I think until like heal that more, I don't

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Speaker 4: I think that's always going to be that block.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so interesting because when I listen to your music,

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Speaker 5: I hear a self awareness, right I do you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean at least or at least that you're

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, and who you're doing it with.

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Speaker 1: That's where I get from it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but what you mean, like, and so you think

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Speaker 4: that means you're confused about me having trust issues? Are

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Speaker 4: you saying?

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Speaker 5: Because I feel like you got to trust yourself enough

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Speaker 1: To be able to even move like that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Well the music that you make, that's easy.

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Speaker 3: The music that you make is like it resonates with

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Speaker 3: it is kind of hard to here you sit here

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Speaker 3: and say like the opposite. No, like it's hard for

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Speaker 3: or just everything that you feel, like you said is

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Speaker 1: I don't feel that in your music.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, like, oh you got it all together? This

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't feel like it was done. So

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Speaker 4: Let me see? No, I feel like I've That's the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's wonderful.

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Speaker 4: Oh? Between Justin and the labels, they put together a

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Speaker 4: WHOA? Never? Not yet?

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Speaker 2: Do you cross that line, because it seems like you

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Speaker 2: said you cross that line? Do you cross that line

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think all the time. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Are right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Yeah, you only got to say that to

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you only say because you know, if you know

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Speaker 4: No, that was the first time me and this person

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Speaker 6: That it did.

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Speaker 5: But you're a communicator, You write songs, you actually communicate

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I do. When things get really spicy,

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Speaker 4: Oh, this was just what happened. He didn't like it.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember, but he was holding his ship so

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Speaker 4: It's just it was just atch in North Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: You didn't ask me how we should stretch. He didn't

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Speaker 3: I came to But if she was having that like.

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Speaker 4: A praise dad God, I love God.

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Speaker 3: I just think if you if he was, if he

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Speaker 3: I don't want to pray with you right now.

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Speaker 4: No, it was just all of it combined. And then

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Speaker 4: You remember the conversation, I know, that's all I remember.

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Speaker 4: I just know we were just going back and forth,

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Speaker 4: and I eventually said, this is not gonna work, which

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Speaker 4: I think, I don't. It's something I heard my dad

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Speaker 6: When your dad was saying it, was it just about

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Speaker 4: To just everything, any type of argument he would have

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Speaker 4: this isn't gonna work. And I just feel like I

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Speaker 4: don't have to be that extreme, you know, every time.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sure that was really hurtful.

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Speaker 5: To him, you know, and words that power if you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: you said, my beef first spicy. So do you sign

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Speaker 3: I'm an Aquarius?

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Speaker 4: Wonderful and aquaries Cole that's right?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't. I don't know that. I

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I got that from the Departed. That was a movie.

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Speaker 4: I love that movie, Leonard movies like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna what is going on?

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Speaker 3: Do you think somebody's zodiac sign plays the part in

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Speaker 4: No, I will state I will still date anybody and

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Speaker 4: I don't believe we are very compatible. I think they

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Speaker 6: Bottom of bottom up.

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Speaker 5: Chip.

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Speaker 4: No, he was, well, I ain't gonna tell you who

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Speaker 4: he was, and't gonna put it wasn't Oh he was

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Speaker 4: he was a Pisces. Yes, secret family. I feel like

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Speaker 4: there's something in me. I think they think I'm something else,

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00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 4: and when they realize, oh there's something deeper here, I'm out.

443
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 4: You know.

444
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 6: Are these men like celebrities or they're like like what

445
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 6: are they?

446
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: Uh?

447
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 4: No, no one really knows them. No, okay, yeah, do

448
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 4: you purposely date like out of the industry? Honestly, I would, Oh, well,

449
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 4: I would love to date someone that's well known, but

450
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: I would like to date someone that's not in the industry,

451
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 4: like a scientist or a historian. I think could be

452
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 4: really nice because I like history, I like science and

453
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 4: things of that nature. So I want somebody that I

454
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 4: can completely just kind of silence my music world. I

455
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 4: don't want to talk about music all day unless it's

456
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 4: old school stuff like that's fun, you know, but like

457
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 4: the studio stuff and like songs, and like, I couldn't

458
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 4: date a songwriter. I think I would get really exhausted.

459
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 4: I have gotten exhausted. What they want?

460
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: He always wanted you to hear lyrics?

461
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 4: Yes, or exactly or songs and I just write for

462
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: you right exactly, you know, I just I just want

463
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: something completely opposite, gotcha.

464
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask before, you know, when did you

465
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 2: know it was time to leave dream Field. We've heard

466
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: you complained it for years and how you wanted to

467
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: be independent and what you wanted to do on yourself.

468
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: When did you know it was the right time?

469
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's just a feeling. I think

470
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 4: after when my song Smoke dropped, it just felt like

471
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 4: we weren't aligned. And it's not their fault. I don't

472
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: know what happened. I think perhaps they didn't know, like

473
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 4: the date of it or something. And I think as

474
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 4: it dropped, it was just I could feel like there

475
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 4: was no marketing behind it and I and I mean,

476
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 4: you were right.

477
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 5: I vocally said that I never felt like they supported you.

478
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: Oh I do feel like they supported me overall, Like

479
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 4: I don't believe that I would have gotten this far

480
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 4: without them. J Cole was the greatest co sign I

481
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 4: could have ever had. As a neo soul artist, people

482
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: sleep on our genre so incredibly so he changed my

483
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: life and introduced me to people that probably might not

484
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: have received me the same if they heard me outside

485
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: of you know, his camp. So the marketing overall, like

486
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 4: ow is incredible, But honestly, I think they were in

487
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: the middle of a deal separating Dreamville from Interscope, and

488
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 4: I think that's what I was feeling at the time,

489
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: and that's why they were unable to really hone in

490
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: on what's going on. I think over the years also

491
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 4: I have to take accountability with a lot of just

492
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 4: my little things on the internet, with just speaking up

493
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 4: about different things, I think probably created some tension for sure. No,

494
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 4: not even the label, just like just a little things like.

495
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: A Martin fan, and they didn't like.

496
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 4: No, I don't even think so.

497
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 6: Around the time that smoke dropped, you Will posted online

498
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 6: that you were exhausted by Dreamville, that you were tired

499
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 6: of people treating you like you were to face of

500
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 6: mental health. You're okay, you're happy, but they're not. They're

501
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 6: not marketing you well, they're not protecting you. You wish

502
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 6: labels knew how to do that.

503
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 4: I felt that way about Interscope too. It wasn't just

504
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: all Dreamville and Interscope has. Really they've really shown me

505
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 4: a lot of love and support and things of that nature,

506
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: and I think it just was a really emotional time

507
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: for me and I I think I was I regretted. Honestly,

508
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: I feel like I should have never taken it to

509
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: the internet Internet. But like you know, I do want

510
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 4: to apologize to j Cole. I've been I sent him

511
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 4: a message on Instagram, I sent him a voice note.

512
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: I'm a little afraid to give them a call, but

513
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 4: I do apologize.

514
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love that.

515
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: None of those got well you know, well they don't

516
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 4: deserve apology. But it was never cold. Cole was never

517
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 4: the issue. I think it just was literally like a

518
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: marketing thing in it. But it is what it.

519
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: Is, see for me, and I'm sure you know so

520
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: you're right.

521
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 5: So I guess just on the outside looking and you're like, well, damn, Cole,

522
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 5: why don't you stand next to you, next to somebody

523
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 5: like that.

524
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 3: More often regarding because that can help him marketing a lot.

525
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 4: He This man flew all the way to London for me.

526
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 4: I was performing. I mean it was beautiful time, sold

527
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 4: out two nights. I forgot the venue, but it was

528
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: beautiful and it was massive. This man surprised me as

529
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: I'm performing Shade butter Baby and I cried like a baby.

530
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 4: I sounded like a walrus. I could not get the

531
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: words out because I was so shocked, Like that's how

532
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 4: loving and selfless he is, so cold himself, like I

533
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: will always care and respect him because London across the

534
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 4: pond for little old me is like what you know,

535
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 4: he just.

536
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: Liked to ride bikes and stuff. That phone?

537
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: Oh my god, no call?

538
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: Like, how did you call him and tell him you

539
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: wanted to be released? Do you remember that call? Did

540
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: you speak to him directly? I?

541
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 4: Sadly, with my avoidant nature, I sent him a voice

542
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: note about it, and it's sad I should have called him. Yeah,

543
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: for sure?

544
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: Did he respond?

545
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 4: I was I wasn't ready to face like my own

546
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 4: my own ways. I wasn't ready to be accountable for myself.

547
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 4: And then I don't believe. I was just scared about

548
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: Like there's a lot of things that I wish I

549
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 4: just talked to him about before taking it to the internet.

550
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 4: So I really feel like those things created that tension.

551
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: Did respond did he respond to?

552
00:27:59,280 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 4: He did respond?

553
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: He did respond.

554
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 4: Come on, But that's why that's why I apologize.

555
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 6: If you want to share with it. When he responded

556
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 6: with that, he said, because he's normally very like warm

557
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 6: and comforting when.

558
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: He talks about you. Yeah, he said he wished I

559
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: called him.

560
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 5: So yeah, when you look back now, it was the

561
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 5: frustration about marketing, creative control, and just feeling misunderstood as

562
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 5: an artist.

563
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 4: There's things I didn't understand about, like how you're supposed

564
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 4: to move in a in a label. I didn't know. Yeah,

565
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: what's the question again? Sorry, I got my ADHD.

566
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't forgot to.

567
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 6: Marketing. Was it marketing being.

568
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 4: Artist? Was it creative control or being miss Oh? I

569
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: just know I feel like they understood me. I think

570
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: they understood me. Well, I think uh, like I said,

571
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: I think there was a lot of things going on

572
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: at that time where they couldn't focus on the artists

573
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 4: at that specific time. But they did all them other

574
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 4: years before, but at that specific time, I think they

575
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: were parting ways with Innerscope, So like I got lost

576
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: in like that and I didn't know that until after,

577
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 4: and then it's just like damn, I wouldn't have said

578
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: anything like yeah, but it's also not my business, like

579
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 4: they are a business and I should have known that

580
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: and respected that, you know, as an artist like this

581
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: is a business and I'm learning that.

582
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: And I don't think stood.

583
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: I don't think Cole ever stood next to any of

584
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: his artists. He always played the background.

585
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 4: No, he stood next to us with our features and

586
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 4: on stage and putting us on. We opened up for him.

587
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: All them collaborations we've done together, Boss has done together.

588
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, them Dreamville albums. Yeah, he stood next to us.

589
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: He didn't have to.

590
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 6: What's one thing that because I think when people talk

591
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 6: about you Dreamville, J Cole, it's always this stuff. What's

592
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 6: one thing that you wish people would talk more about

593
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 6: when they talk about you Dreamville and J.

594
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: Co Oh wow, I don't know just just how sweet

595
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: he is, how selfless he is. I remember before For

596
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: Your Eyes Only dropped, he was driving around. He was like,

597
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: let's listen to my album, y'all, and like we got in.

598
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 6: The car and me, Jake, he's been driving.

599
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: One of a big old well I don't know if

600
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: I shot I should tell you his car. It wasn't

601
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: a Honda, not that there's anything, but it was a

602
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: big old truck. Yeah. Yeah, listening to his music and

603
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: I that was a very special thing to do, Like

604
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: I for me to be able to get the first

605
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: listen in the car with him an elite and I

606
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: believe someone else was there. Sorry to that person, I

607
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: don't remember, but it was beautiful. It was beautiful. It's

608
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: just things like that, and then beautiful conversations he would

609
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: have with me about like just me feeling down or

610
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: financial intelligence. He really instilled in me and wanted to

611
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: prepare me for and thank god he did. I made

612
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: certain decisions, like with investing in properties and because I'll

613
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 4: spend some money, like I'll spend some money, so that helped.

614
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: Those homes that I invested in are kind of like

615
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: a savings account for me. And I feel like he

616
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: put me on a certain thing.

617
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: So what's the hardest part of closing that chapter?

618
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: Hardest part is just just wishing things didn't in the

619
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: way that they did. I know I didn't help, but

620
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: it was funny because it was all kind of vending anyway.

621
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 4: I just wish I knew that, but you know, I

622
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: have to be accountable, So I think that's the hardest part. Yeah,

623
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 4: just knowing that I you know, I was unprofessional and

624
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: really emotional.

625
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, how did that experience change the way you view

626
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: the music industry?

627
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: Well, Honestly, my experience has been relatively good. I'm really lucky.

628
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 4: There's a lot of labels that would have dropped me.

629
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: There's a lot of labels that could have assaulted me,

630
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: all kinds of things. Dreamville was really a protective energy.

631
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: They I remember there was one time I got drunk

632
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: as hell in Australia and I was dancing and I

633
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: was making out with this guy. It was terrible on

634
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 4: the dance floor and I went home. I went to

635
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 4: the hotel and this man was I guess he was

636
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: tagging along or he was trying to get My friend

637
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: said he was just like trying to get into my room,

638
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: and said was like absolutely not like all and I

639
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: was so drunk it could have been bad. And yeah,

640
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 4: there were times where, you know, outside of Dreamville, where

641
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: like things happened where I wasn't very coherent because of liquor,

642
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 4: and so yeah, and that moment, it's just like, I

643
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: really appreciate having my brothers there to stop this man

644
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: from who knows what.

645
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 6: You know, So you have been so blessed when it

646
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 6: comes to that. I heard another story you told about

647
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 6: when you were in an airport and you it's kind of

648
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 6: the same thing, Like anybody could have did anything. You're

649
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 6: blacked out from drinking.

650
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: Anybody. I was drunk. I was always drunk in the airport,

651
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: especially when before the flight. Yeah, okay, before the flight

652
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: to get through the flight. I've just always been terrified

653
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: of flying. And it's that's the amazing aspect of sobriety

654
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: is that I can actually heal and like face these

655
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: issues because I'm not prolonging it or you know, with

656
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: numbing myself. So that's been great, Like now flying is

657
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: a lot easier.

658
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: Well, good, Yeah, what do you think you were trying

659
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: to run from? Like what do you think? Why were

660
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: you drinking so much?

661
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: What was oh?

662
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: Everything? Really it was the flying that really spearheaded like everything.

663
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 4: It was just the fear of dying, a horrific death

664
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: from the guy.

665
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 5: How anxiety works, I don't want to call it any

666
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 5: irrational fears, whatever fear you have, it's multiplied times one hundred, Yeah, exactly.

667
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I just wanted to numb that. I

668
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 4: didn't want to be screaming on the plane and embarrassing myself.

669
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: But now like I know what the plane sounds like

670
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: when I'm taking off, I know I'm starting to like

671
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 4: how it feels. It's still I feel like a rocket

672
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: going into space, but you know, it's it's gotten easier.

673
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: Do you feel like an artist personality is just as

674
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 3: important as their talent.

675
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: Ah, I do, and I feel like it can be

676
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: damaging if you're too honest, too open, too opinionated. Yeah,

677
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 4: there are things I wish I never opened up about online.

678
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: But you know, you get one life, and I hate

679
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: to regret anything at eighty like I should have said this,

680
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 4: should have did this, should have this person should have

681
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 4: because they can see is sexy as hell.

682
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, and good sex.

683
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a manifesting because I am having sex. It's

684
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: been three years, so you're yeah, so you're celeb Well good, Yeah,

685
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 4: well actually I did have a I shouldn't have said.

686
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: I didn't want to lie. Well it was almost three years. Okay,

687
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 4: well no it was three years. It was it could

688
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: have been longer, but yeah, no, I'm not a liar.

689
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: That's my.

690
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: But you. I don't want my mom to know how

691
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 4: it was just a little moment.

692
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 6: So I want you no more questions.

693
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 4: Actually it was all right.

694
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: She said, she want to ask you no more questions.

695
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 6: Okay, so what because when people say that they've been

696
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 6: celibate for like three years, five years, I'm like, how

697
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 6: do you not run into like instances of just like

698
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 6: the feeling of like wanting to masterby at all?

699
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: Oh no, I do that every night.

700
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I thought, but because there are certain levels

701
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 6: of celibacy, like I know, people can sell it to

702
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 6: the point where.

703
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 4: They're not even trying to do No, I could never

704
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: go that long without doing that, And I feel like

705
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: my whole down there would completely change, like it would

706
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 4: completely collapsed if I didn't make sure she was good.

707
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 6: So what was the running you had that almost like

708
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 6: messed it all up or kind of sets you back?

709
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 6: You said, Oh, I.

710
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: Don't think it set me back. I feel like I

711
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 4: needed to get that energy off me. I feel like

712
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: I was really becoming decrepit a bit, and like and

713
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: just I just was too. I just felt in my energy,

714
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: my energy was exuding prudeness and honestly, there's nothing wrong

715
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: with that, and I feel like celibacy is a beautiful thing,

716
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 4: but me personally, I just needed a nice restart of

717
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: And so yeah, now we're back.

718
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, what's the clock at now?

719
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 4: What do you mean? In general? I don't know.

720
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: Now, listen, you're what would you call yourself?

721
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 4: R and B soul, R and B soul, neil soul.

722
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 4: I like to play with alternative sounds under the moon.

723
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 4: This record I have, I'm howling like I love it.

724
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: I love things like that. So I like to get

725
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: in the pop space one day, but I wanted to

726
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: feel authentic. I love all kinds of music. I love zed,

727
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 4: I love red Hot Chili Pepper, System of a Down

728
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: you already on the album. Yeah, company is everything, and

729
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: he's my one and only features.

730
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 5: So I wonder when it comes to these labels, right

731
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 5: for somebody like you, who's a sofa R and B artist,

732
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 5: you don't necessarily fit the pop or hip hop marketing machines.

733
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: I wonder does anybody know what to do with it.

734
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 4: I think they're doing the best that like they can,

735
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: and I think they're they're doing pretty well. I think

736
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 4: I just gotta do this. I gotta be in the streets.

737
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: I gotta talk to people. I gotta sing my ass

738
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 4: off and like make people understand, like you know, I'm

739
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 4: good at this, and come see my tour, you know,

740
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 4: come to my tour, Come listen to the album. I

741
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of work I have to do.

742
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 4: I do.

743
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 5: I agree with you, because every time we've had conversations,

744
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 5: you know, on this air, I'm like, yo, she's such

745
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 5: a nice person, like she got such a personality, right,

746
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: but if you just see what you do online, you

747
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 5: think all she does is complain, Like we can't even

748
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 5: watch Martin without her complaining.

749
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: Please watch Martin.

750
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: Yes, advocate, I can break, I know.

751
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: And it meant the world to me because he was

752
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 4: so gentle in his response, and oh I I didn't

753
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 4: expect that. I actually when I responded to she did

754
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: she did.

755
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 6: Response?

756
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 4: I did cry? Yeah, yeah, because you know, he didn't

757
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: have to respond so beautifully the way that he did,

758
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 4: and I didn't feel it was invalidating, you know what

759
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But he was also you know, true to

760
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 4: himself and I respect that completely as a big fan

761
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 4: of him. It meant the world to me because he's

762
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 4: a legendary comedian. He could have dragged me to hell

763
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 4: along with the world street exactly. It was heartbreaking. It

764
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: was a heavy time for me because I felt like

765
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 4: I isolated myself from every black person in the world,

766
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: So like I was ruminating heavy, but luckily the album

767
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 4: like pulled me out of the dumps and therapy and

768
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: things of that nature.

769
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, is confident enough to understand Martin?

770
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm sure she. She loves it. Yeah yeah.

771
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: Do you have a black therapist who?

772
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, theist. She's lovely, beautiful, beautiful natural hair. She's great. Yeah, yeah,

773
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: she's wonderful.

774
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 6: I think what you just said, though, is important for

775
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 6: people to hear, because so you get online, you say it,

776
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 6: people talk about it, to discuss it, they make their jokes,

777
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 6: they move on. But for you, you said it actually took

778
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 6: you to like a really dark space. Oh yeah, because

779
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 6: we think that you because afterward you came back on

780
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 6: you readdressed it. You you know, you stood tend toes

781
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 6: down on. This is how I felt. So for me,

782
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 6: I thought she said what she said, she moved on.

783
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 6: But in real life it doesn't stick like that with.

784
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: You, right right, it doesn't. Yeah? Yeah, like yeah, like

785
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 4: I said, it was, it was just really heavy. But

786
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 4: you know, I think it helped kind of just accepting

787
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 4: that everyone is going to have their own opinions about

788
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: it and it's okay that I have mine.

789
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: And yeah, absolutely, what boundaries that you set for yourself

790
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 5: this era that the younger are linux didn't have.

791
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: I think this year, this era, I just don't want

792
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: to respond anymore. I just want to really be intentional

793
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 4: when I'm on the internet about being sexy and also

794
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 4: like just promoting my album and just promoting like what

795
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 4: I stand for in relation to like my personal experiences

796
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 4: growing up and my music.

797
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: You know, let's stay there for a walk.

798
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 5: In social media, like you've been talking about, been a

799
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 5: complicated relationship for you over there.

800
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

801
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 5: Do you feel artists today have to sacrifice peace of

802
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 5: mind just to stay visible, just to promote this stuff?

803
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, all, it's all in the game. Yeah, this is

804
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: the game. This is what we signed up for. So

805
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 4: it is what it is. But we want people to

806
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: buy our tickets, we want people to buy our albums,

807
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 4: So it is what it is. And it's just realizing

808
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: the power that we hold as artists and you know,

809
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 4: people will. We have to just understand that with everything

810
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: we say and do, like we could spark we could

811
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: light a fire if we're not careful. So yeah, it's

812
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 4: a lot of things I've been learning. I'm trying to

813
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 4: just you know, not talk too much because I didn't

814
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: know it would be such a big deal me saying

815
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 4: what I said I had. I had no idea, but

816
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 4: you know, now I do you know, I you know,

817
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 4: you would have thought I came out as a MAGA

818
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 4: supporter or you know, yeah, yeah, girl. I was just like, damn,

819
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: I didn't know it would be so intense, But you know,

820
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 4: now I know, And it's just like it's just best

821
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: for me to just.

822
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 6: The conversation you were trying to have is a conversation

823
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 6: that can be had. I just don't know if it

824
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 6: like everybody doesn't agree with it being applied to Martin, right,

825
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 6: But the conversation about like dark skin light skin, it's

826
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 6: a conversation we have. And I think that I hope

827
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 6: that you feel on social media too, that there's a

828
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 6: whole movement of black women that we played new Apartment

829
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 6: every time we move we soft girl era, Like do

830
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 6: you feel that too as well?

831
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 4: I feel the love and support and I felt supported

832
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 4: in that. But I think I have this issue where

833
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 4: in general, sometimes it's easier to focus on the negative

834
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: and like how loud it is and just certain things

835
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: people said. It's just like damn, like, well, I know,

836
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: I'm not lame, like I just had. I just I

837
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: spoke from a space of being a little girl and

838
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: like consuming you know the show the way I consumed it.

839
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: But there's so many beautiful memories around Martin, you know,

840
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 4: watching it with my grandmother, Like she'd be pissed honestly

841
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 4: along with everyone else about Like what I said, But

842
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: that was your experience, yeah, like you know, yeah, but

843
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: look of experiences.

844
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: How is it Performing in South Africa at the Jazz

845
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: Festival last year?

846
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 4: It was amazing.

847
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: It was connection with the people, It was fantastic.

848
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: You like, Yeah, I was afraid to go because that

849
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: was my.

850
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 3: First time and that was a long flight.

851
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: That's a long flight. Well that and I was beefing

852
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: with some people from South Africa on Twitter, I did,

853
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 4: but once I got there, the whole I started a

854
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: lot of ship but not intentionally, I swear. But but yeah,

855
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 4: so girls, it is really we do love I mean,

856
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 4: I mean, well, but I really thought it was gonna

857
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 4: be beef. Came there, everyone was nice, people were beautiful,

858
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 4: sweet jamming. They really had my back. I love them.

859
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 4: So it was a dream of South Africa. I can't

860
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: wait to go back.

861
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 6: Yes, did you do an interview while you were there.

862
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: No, I don't remember.

863
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 6: Because that was a part of you saying like you

864
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 6: weren't going to do any interviews when you went at

865
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 6: one point a good yeah, you was like, I'm not

866
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 6: going back, I'm not doing interviews. I'm not this.

867
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: I would do an interview. I have no this is

868
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 4: great but yeah, yeah, I don't think I did an interview,

869
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 4: but I would do an interview. I'm not afraid anything.

870
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 6: It was a joke.

871
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: But you know, it's interesting A lot of this was

872
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: just fueled by alcohol. You could just say he was drunk,

873
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: no raging alcoholic back then, I don't have.

874
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: To I was raging, chilling in it.

875
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: What does it mean to put the whole in high school?

876
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 4: Oh? I mean.

877
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 6: Girls ahead.

878
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: You know, it's just like, why did you play with me?

879
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: Why did you let me down? I thought you were

880
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: so wonderful and I gave my heart to you and

881
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 4: you just obliterated it. Yeah, all of their signs. There

882
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 4: was a scorpio. The scorpio wasn't even a relationship. It

883
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 4: was just one day. He was just a waste of time.

884
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 4: And uh, the tours we talked about Oh fuck nothing. Yeah, yep, you.

885
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: Broke a window before flatten the time.

886
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 4: Before, no never, never, no, no, we have.

887
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: To think about it. What did you do?

888
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 4: Oh? I won't tell you what I did that that

889
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: wasn't towards of me and a family member had a

890
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 4: beef along time, but it wasn't bleach. But it was

891
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 4: something I could not say, no, no, nothing, you guys something.

892
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 5: Never in my life have I wished a woman's exes

893
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 5: could sing. I wish them could sing. I wish they

894
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 5: could make their own songs. I need to hear the

895
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 5: other side.

896
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: I need to hear the other.

897
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: Side of them.

898
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 5: Yes, I need to hear what they I need to

899
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 5: hear what they would say about you.

900
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: I probably do too. I probably do too. It would

901
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 4: probably help me a lot understand why they were so trifling,

902
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah no, But honestly, it'd be cool to

903
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 4: get some pointers like okay, fine, Like maybe y'all could

904
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 4: work on this. You know, but I already know, I

905
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: already know.

906
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to attend this tour. Girl Alam one

907
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: of them stops.

908
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: Thank you, you appreciate hear.

909
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: You sing and just see your show. I love you

910
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: so much.

911
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: I love you too, sure you too.

912
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 5: Just my last question if you had to explain I

913
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 5: guess your career in like three different chapters. Right, you

914
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 5: got Dreamville Ari. I don't know if I would say

915
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 5: frustrated Ari, that can come and go. But now vacancy,

916
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 5: But now vacancy. Right, which version of yourself feels the

917
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: most honest?

918
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I think vacancy. I'm just literally unapologetic, like

919
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: this is who I am. Also in the same breath,

920
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 4: it's just like, just let me remind people, like I'm

921
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 4: not playing. I'm a soulful artist. I'm R and B artist.

922
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 4: I know how to write music. I know how the

923
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 4: same music. I'm good at this, And let's just get

924
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: back to the music you know, like I and I'll

925
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 4: keep it there. I'll try my best to keep it

926
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 4: there for the world, for the sake of black cultures.

927
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: Culture.

928
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 5: The most interesting thing that we're gonna witness about you

929
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 5: is how you get better with time, Like I can

930
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 5: see it, like your music is gonna get better with time,

931
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 5: plus just you as a person, like your levels of

932
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck are going to get better

933
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 5: as you get older, Like you're gonna be that rich auntie,

934
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

935
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: Who may decide to get married. May not just tart

936
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: to get married. May get married once or twice, get

937
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 1: the boy. But you're going, oh my god.

938
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: Sixteen freaky husband is going to have a beautiful freaky

939
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 4: wife and we are going to be together.

940
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be drip.

941
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: Four the woman her age four.

942
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 4: Yes, cows, cows and lamas and camels and kangarooly.

943
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: Really yes, the whole farm like with and black at

944
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 3: the same time.

945
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: Mexican man, thank you. Yes, I love today, like six three,

946
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 4: it's amazing. Are you being trifling?

947
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: Both of them? Rifle?

948
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm so happy about you.

949
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: So everything you say that you like, I resonate with that,

950
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: like the farm to pick up truck all that, like, yeah,

951
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 3: my husband came all it.

952
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know That's what I want. Just a nice,

953
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 4: peaceful man, beautiful animals. I would love that.

954
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see forty four year old are

955
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 5: thank you?

956
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: Not with a Mexican.

957
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 4: Man, you have a black I would love a Mexican

958
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 4: man or Mexican and black black man. I mean, but

959
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: I'm down for it all. I think Bad Bunny is

960
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 4: very handsome. I know he's Puerto Rican. He's Puerto Rican,

961
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 4: but you know, no not a butt, but I love

962
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 4: Puerto Ricans. Well, I just feen O people very attractive.

963
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy the Super Bowls? What you're trying to do?

964
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 4: I did enjoy you met him? Honestly, I didn't watch it.

965
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 4: Why the d N.

966
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 5: By no reason loved it.

967
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: Exactly. You know, wait for get it. I would love this.

968
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 6: You're going back, You're going out back.

969
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 4: We could talk all day, I promise.

970
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,959
Speaker 6: The whole time. You bought that for support I did.

971
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: I think it was. It's hard for me to do

972
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: both at the.

973
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was saying, you're going back out on tour too, right,

974
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 6: you just announced the tour so way different experience because

975
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 6: that was the thing too, with the whole rod wave situation.

976
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 6: I'm glad we're going to get to see you in

977
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 6: all of your elegance the right way.

978
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 4: I have to be accountable. I did this to myself.

979
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 4: I and I needed the money. I wanted the money, uh,

980
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: and I'm grateful for that money. I just didn't know

981
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 4: I would be shaking like a stripper every night in fear,

982
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 4: but it was, and it builds, it builds integrity, and

983
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: I do believe that made me stronger again. And also

984
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 4: I feel like I learned a lot about the industry.

985
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 4: These people are not my friends. Stop going into business

986
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 4: situations and expecting acquaintances to be my friend and family

987
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 4: and treat me the way family and friends treat me.

988
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 4: So there, it was just a beautiful lesson to learn,

989
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 4: and I really do appreciate Rod Way for giving me

990
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: that opportunity. And now I know stay away from raps,

991
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 4: like opening up for them and in general dating them,

992
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 4: like just don't do it.

993
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: You could be on the.

994
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 5: Stage with the right rappers like.

995
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Foggy Rod J Cole, Yeah, I love Foggy Rod.

996
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 4: He's from the d m VS. From Pg's incredible rapper.

997
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 4: We have a beautiful song out called Stay a While,

998
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean I would still do stuff with

999
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 4: rappers if it was a space where you know what

1000
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: would have helped me and Rod if we had a

1001
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 4: record together. I think his fans would have been more

1002
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 4: receptive to me. But since they didn't know me, they

1003
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 4: were like, who is this old hold this old bitch

1004
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 4: on stage trying to be happy as hell? We want

1005
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 4: to be said, making me happy, bitch, And so yeah,

1006
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: that's what happened.

1007
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 6: Young, Like can we get a song off the app.

1008
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: What you want to have vacancy right now?

1009
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear you.

1010
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: Please soft girl, errorless morning.

1011
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: Thank you?

1012
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: What else you want to do? I'll say cool down.

1013
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 4: It's like a warm hug. It's not about sex. It's

1014
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: about love, and we're manifesting true love in my life.

1015
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 4: The only feature, well, he just really came through for me.

1016
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: I did submit the album to a few different rappers,

1017
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: but they didn't have time.

1018
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

1019
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: Well okay, well thank you for.

1020
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: I promise.

1021
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: Just thing you gotta think with rappers. It's like, no,

1022
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna date rappers. I'm not going to go

1023
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: on tour with them.

1024
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no. It's not for them, girl,

1025
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: not all the time.

1026
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: It's the breakfast club.

1027
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: Good morning, every day.

1028
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: Up the breakfast Club. Y'all done.