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Speaker 1: Podcast announcement starts. Now, what's up, everybody. It's Sam and

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Speaker 1: I'm here with some official business. That's right, podcasts can

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Speaker 1: have official business to grow up. But seriously, I have

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Speaker 1: an announcement, a few announcements. First up, we are doing

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Speaker 1: a special episode for Thanksgiving. We're doing an Earnestness Bonanza, which,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know, is when George and I dropped

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Speaker 1: the bit and we are as earnest as we can

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Speaker 1: possibly be while answering your questions. So you can email

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Speaker 1: us questions at Tradio Lab at gmail dot com view

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Speaker 1: that the next few weeks we're gonna record relatively shortly,

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Speaker 1: so get those questions in for our earnest to bananza,

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Speaker 1: and we are gonna you know, ironic attachment found dead

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Speaker 1: in a ditch. It's only being sincere, so um email us,

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Speaker 1: ask us whatever. And we're excited for that. And then

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Speaker 1: we have three live shows. Okay, that's crazy, but it's true.

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Speaker 1: Three live shows. The first one is on November nine

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Speaker 1: at the Bell House in Brooklyn, New York City City.

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Speaker 1: Then Never Sleep as part of the New York Comedy Festival,

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Speaker 1: and we just founced the lineup, which is to die

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Speaker 1: for it's Macy Rodman, River El Ramirez, Rigatte Serresh and

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Levic. That's gonna be huge. And then we have

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Speaker 1: two shows in l A, Los Angeles, Baby Hollywood, California.

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Speaker 1: The first one is a part of Vulture Fest. That

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Speaker 1: is on November twelve at six pm. We're doing a

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Speaker 1: special format for that, which I'll announce soon. And then

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Speaker 1: we're doing a classic Tredeo Lab live on November fourteen

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Speaker 1: at the Allusian Theater, Damn crazy, and we'll announce line

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Speaker 1: us for those soon. But tickets are available right this second.

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Speaker 1: Either go to those websites or go to our We

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Speaker 1: have them in our Instagram bio, which is pretty punk

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Speaker 1: rock of us. Um actually, I guess punk rock is

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Speaker 1: alive and well and it's in our Instagram bio. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think that's everything. Enjoy this episode. I think you know.

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Speaker 1: I can say without any doubt or question that it

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Speaker 1: is one of the greatest casting episodes of all time.

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Speaker 1: And that's it. Okay, have fun by Okay. Podcast starts now.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody, and welcome to Stradio Lab, the greatest

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Speaker 1: podcast to ever exist. George, how is it going? It

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Speaker 1: is going, well, you just got back from Boston, drag me.

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Speaker 1: I went to Boston for a comedy show. Expose him.

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Speaker 1: It was, yeah, you were exposed. Yeah, well it's illustrious

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Speaker 1: guest exposed me. I tried to hide it from the

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Speaker 1: general public, but I actually did do a show in

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Speaker 1: Boston on Friday night. Today is Sunday. So I'm did you, like,

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Speaker 1: can you remind me of your history with Boston? How

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Speaker 1: much time have you spent? I have spent a total

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Speaker 1: of one weekend in Boston in my life, including this one.

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Speaker 1: We can count it as a long weekend now, okay,

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Speaker 1: but I went there literally ten years ago for an

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Speaker 1: improv festival. Are our guests ears perking up? Was it

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Speaker 1: the Boston Comedy Festival? Um? Yeah, I think actually was, No,

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Speaker 1: wait it was it was the There's one. There's it

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Speaker 1: was at the Boston Comedy Arts Festival. That one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so there's Boston Comedy Festival. This is everyone loves that

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Speaker 1: comedy festivals. One is called the Boston Comedy Festival, and

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Speaker 1: it is a stand up competition festival. So you like,

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Speaker 1: the town of Boston. No offense to anyone who is

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Speaker 1: resorts people were like, see this, it is nice. It's relax,

429
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Speaker 1: like the Great Gather, very kind of like party, party, party,

430
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Speaker 1: which but which, to be fair, there was a full

431
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Speaker 1: theme party every afternoon and and every night, so there

432
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Speaker 1: was two. There was two theme parties every single day.

433
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Speaker 1: What are some themes? One was like Alien's Last Space,

434
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Speaker 1: one was Tropical seven, one was seventies, what was eighties?

435
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Speaker 1: One was White Party, and that was very much like prom,

436
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: like that was on Thursday, and it was like that

437
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: was on Thursday. It was very like all Thursday, people

438
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: like I cannot believe it's already white party tonight. I

439
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Speaker 1: cannot believe it's already white party. To night. I was like,

440
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Speaker 1: I know, so crazy, ab so fast and do what

441
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Speaker 1: else were the themes. Then one night the theme was

442
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Speaker 1: that there wasn't a theme. That's crazy, that kind of

443
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 1: feels underground. I feel like your fans would love that

444
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: thing because they're like, oh, this is kind of out

445
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: of the counterfeture. This is fabulous, it's bizarre, it's weird,

446
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: it's strange, fabulous. Um um So, like there were what else?

447
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: Basically I befriended this one married couple. It was like

448
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Speaker 1: a thirty nine old and like he's probably fifty plus

449
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Speaker 1: his husband and met in the first night. Never quite

450
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: like absorbed, absorbed, absorbed their names, but I saw them

451
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: like every day, like four times a day, and so

452
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: like it at the point where I obviously couldn't ask,

453
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: but but they were kind of the ones who would

454
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Speaker 1: tell me what the theme was. And like, also their

455
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Speaker 1: vibe is you know like in cartoons when there's like

456
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Speaker 1: a duo and one of them always talk to the

457
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Speaker 1: other one is mainly silent. Yeah, and Bob was pinky

458
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Speaker 1: in the brain, isn't that but like something like that,

459
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Speaker 1: But it was, um so that was that in the

460
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Speaker 1: bottom was the one who talked, and so like even

461
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Speaker 1: though I feel, oh, that's empowering, that's really empowering. Yeah,

462
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of like he was like kind of like

463
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Speaker 1: you know, in the way where like this is so

464
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Speaker 1: just for anyone, for anyone listening at home. Pat was

465
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: just doing a kind of dance moth kind of gave

466
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Speaker 1: very limp to show that the bottom. So the bottom

467
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Speaker 1: is kind of like limp wristed and kind of dancing,

468
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: so the bottoms fag you pretty much what you're talking.

469
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Speaker 1: He's kind of like just on a dick, just like whooo,

470
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Speaker 1: like going from one direction the other. And fact I

471
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: also wanted to I wanted to clarify something. Did he say, hi,

472
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Speaker 1: my name is like Ronald, I'm the bottom, or did

473
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Speaker 1: you watch them have sex? Or how was this introduced

474
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Speaker 1: as well? Sometimes you know, I mean he was really limpstah,

475
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: he was just super faggy. It was like he was

476
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Speaker 1: really fagging gay and like the bad way, like in

477
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Speaker 1: the way that like when people don't like gave people

478
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Speaker 1: that's what they're talking about. Like he's just like really gay.

479
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Speaker 1: So needless to say, he was getting sucked. I don't know,

480
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Speaker 1: I don't know what that he had bones unberneath his

481
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Speaker 1: elbows and it was just so but he's kind of

482
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Speaker 1: like that stereotype that like he's the reason we like

483
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Speaker 1: people don't like like people don't want gay people have. Right,

484
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Speaker 1: It's like like I kind of like he. I was

485
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Speaker 1: embarrassed by him when I was like close to him.

486
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Speaker 1: He's actually I believe he's been banished to the resort

487
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Speaker 1: because if he's in president, if he's normal, society are

488
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Speaker 1: rights will get taken from us. Well back in the

489
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Speaker 1: Obama administration, President Obama banished gay acting gay to resorts

490
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Speaker 1: because he was like, well, we need kind of like

491
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Speaker 1: the more Pete Buddha Jedge r ot C crowd, you know,

492
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Speaker 1: to make it palatable. I will say, like I when

493
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Speaker 1: I met them, I didn't know immediately what the what

494
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Speaker 1: the deal was, but ultimately, I mean, I can't. I

495
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: hope they don't listen cause I don't mean any of this,

496
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: and like like they are my closest friends I have

497
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: in this world, and like I love them to absolute death,

498
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Speaker 1: and like they took care of me this week and

499
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Speaker 1: I don't mean anything but but whatever. But just as

500
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Speaker 1: an artist for which everything is fodder, I do have

501
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Speaker 1: to discuss like my relationship with my relationship, my relationship

502
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: with my relationship with them if that makes sense, of course,

503
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: and and listen, hey, listen up. My risks are bendy powerful. Listen,

504
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: be careful. You know, the corporate powers that be are

505
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: about to ship you off for the rest of your life.

506
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Speaker 1: You know what I've always said, you know your risk

507
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Speaker 1: maybe bendy, but they bend towards justice. That is the

508
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Speaker 1: difference question mark. Uh, But I knew the deal like

509
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Speaker 1: putty much a sent like immediately and then through chatting

510
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Speaker 1: with him whenever, like it eventually was confirmed of course,

511
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 1: of course, of course. But he's very much like I'm

512
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna get some dick tonight or like I would see

513
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Speaker 1: him in and I big how's your guys day? Like

514
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Speaker 1: how's a big good? I got him dick finally and

515
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: like punches like not like and like kind of slaps

516
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Speaker 1: the wall, like the guy at the top, and it

517
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Speaker 1: was like slaps a random person walking by hip bitch

518
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Speaker 1: bitch or the top struggle the top was like it was.

519
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: He was very much like you know, I was obviously

520
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: in New York constant anxieties as someone who on the

521
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: second day had a terrible show and then just was

522
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: at a gate was worked by myself. The rest of it,

523
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: like I was in your constant anxiety spirals, and so

524
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: they worked people I would kind of land with and

525
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: like be like, this is what I'm struggling with right now,

526
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: and they are not people I think that fuel a

527
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: ton of anxiety, and like you know, in New York,

528
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like everyone's struggles and like at a

529
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Speaker 1: gay resort, almost no one struggles. And so I was like, um,

530
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: I forget what I was like spiring about. But he

531
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: was like he had all these things, like he was like,

532
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: what do you do with the balloon? I was like what,

533
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: He's like, what do you do the balloon? You blow

534
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: it up and let it go? And you mean, like,

535
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: let me go. You blowed up, let it go, Let's

536
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: pung to some deck. Like he was all about like that,

537
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That's actually really helpful. Yeah,

538
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: in a sense, but that's kind of not what you

539
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: do with a balloon. That's true, to blow it up.

540
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: It's not what you do with the balloon. Also, if

541
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: it was what you do with the bloon, which you've

542
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: agreed on, it isn't. The blow it up part is

543
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: completely superfluous to the analogy, Like he let it go

544
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: let it go. Yeah, here's what I'll say if I

545
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, let's say I brought balloons to party and

546
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: then people were like, how do you do this? And

547
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: I was like, let me show you. I blew it

548
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: up and then just let it go and just did

549
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: that repeatedly, with each balloon, each different color and shape.

550
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: I would not be a hit at that party. Someone

551
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: was only such a cursory knowledge of balloons would be like,

552
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: I think you're not doing that, right. I mean, that's

553
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: not that's not what these these mechanisms are for. Um.

554
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: So he was like that. He also like this was

555
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: so much that they were big fans of Hacks, which

556
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: I write for. And uh. He did say to me

557
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: in our first conversation that he didn't even he loved

558
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Has so much. He didn't know anything about Debra bands

559
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: until Has started. I love them to death, will die

560
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: for them at any given. He's smarter than me, He's

561
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: cooler than me. They were both smarter. They were both

562
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: He was actively a hundred times smarter than means. But

563
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: I'll say like he made me laugh so hard all

564
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: week long. Okay, this does remind me of when I

565
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: was describing the plot of Tar to my mother the

566
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: movie with Cape Lanchet that is out, yeah, And I

567
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: was like, so she plays this conductor who's like really famous.

568
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: She's an egot. She's like both in the classical music

569
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: world but also has like broken through and written stuff

570
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: for movies and plays and and whatever. And and then

571
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: this happens in Mom and I was playing the whole plot.

572
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: I was talking for like five minutes, and then my

573
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: mom goes and so is She's still alive? And I

574
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: realized she thought that I was describing a real person. Yeah. Yeah,

575
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: I do think like we have to have a compassion

576
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: for these people because it's like, you know, in this

577
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: world where there's docs and there's scripted versions of docs,

578
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: and then there's bio biopic, not to mention auto fiction docuseries,

579
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: life is blurred. Reality is blurred. Reality and fiction are blurred.

580
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: And in it in a world where reality is blurred,

581
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: as it's become with with you know, the and alb

582
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: doc etcetera, we have to have compassion for our neighbors well.

583
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: And it's really tough. I think this is a good

584
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: point because it's especially with shows about comedians. So many

585
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: times it's like a comedian playing instead of Sam Taggard,

586
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: it would be Dan tag Rat And it's like yeah,

587
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: and so it's like yeah, I mean, you're playing yourself,

588
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: So I could, I would believe that Debra Vance is

589
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: actually a woman named Deborah Stance who wrote the show

590
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: Hacks about. I mean, it is Hannah horrve At, the

591
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: real person. Yes, her name is Linda Donald and she's real. Yeah,

592
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: she's real. Yeah, best start believing in HBO's girls. You

593
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: are in it, yes, and quote to quote vulture vultures, hateful,

594
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: anti hacks, anti hacks campaign, and here we go and

595
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: here we go, and this is why you're here, and

596
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: this is why you're here tonight. Just to clap back

597
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: at the haters. They've gone two articles, one entitled is

598
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 1: hacks bad Actually? And one more an article which they

599
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: didn't answer the question. It was kind of not an opinion.

600
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: It was just like, let's talk a little bit of

601
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: shot enough where we don't have to actually say anything.

602
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: And if you want to hear more about either of those,

603
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: come to our show at Vulture Fest thirteen. Well, you

604
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: guys are vulture darlings, which is cool, which is really cool.

605
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: You know, well, I feel like a vulture pariah. Often

606
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: I'll say this, The power of Vulture is that Ruin

607
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: kind of feels like a Vulture pride. But you guys,

608
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: don't I listen. I have never been in any of

609
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: their lists, That's all I know. Yeah, yeah, I mean

610
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship with the Vulture where I've done

611
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 1: work for them. I sometimes feel like I'm literally like

612
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: at the Vulture holiday party, like whatever, and then they'll

613
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: fully come for me. I feel not take that that

614
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't need come for me. I mean, like they

615
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: famously so they put me on their list finally, and

616
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: then they in the list so that I go for Hacks.

617
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: And then in in that article about me where they

618
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Speaker 1: says Hacks was hyper them to their own articles saying

619
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Speaker 1: asking if Hacks was that, which is just an interesting

620
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Speaker 1: it isn't really interesting. Choice isn't really interesting? Choice? Is

621
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: so funny to put you on a list of up

622
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: and coming comedians and then link out to their own

623
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: article asking if your show is you have to ask

624
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: the question like what are you what are you thinking?

625
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: But it's so funny. It's just interesting. That's the power

626
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: of the is they have to be hot and cold

627
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: like that. It's like that's the whole deal. I think

628
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: it's So it's also funny because you, specifically more than

629
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: most people like pick up on things like get we'll

630
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: get annoyed by that and we'll not let it go

631
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: in a way that I absolutely love. Well, it's just

632
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: like I awfully did a bit about knopping at us

633
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: for years and years and hearest, so it's also funny

634
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: high to be on it, and then also to be

635
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: on it and also like be absolutely jagged. It's funny.

636
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: And then yeah they were like you're on it, but

637
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: no your place. And then there are my podcasts and

638
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: just thinking like when it first started, but they liked

639
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Speaker 1: it and then they would like not acknowledge it for years,

640
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: and then they did include us in like a these

641
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: these are podcasts, like these are examples of podcasts. And

642
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: then but then it's like then they'll go then they'll

643
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Speaker 1: go cold again. It's it's so interesting. Um, well, I

644
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: do want to say, you know, it's funny. When we

645
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Speaker 1: asked you about the resort Um, you said, well, I

646
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Speaker 1: don't want to say too much about it because of

647
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: course I want to talk about in my own podcast,

648
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: and then proceeded to actually perform a full one person show,

649
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: ready ready for HBO Max even sweetheart, Sweetheart, Um that

650
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Speaker 1: that tip of the iceberg, wise on the Titanic, heading

651
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Speaker 1: towards the only tip of an iceberg here, tippo on

652
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: iceberg that, like the famous line says, tip on iceberg

653
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: dead ahead, Yeah, tip of the iceberg. We are on

654
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Speaker 1: the Titanic and we're only about to hit the tip. Um.

655
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Speaker 1: I've I've never performed at a gay resort, pat, but

656
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: I have been to one multiple times. I went to

657
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: one in Michigan. Um, there's a gay town in Michigan

658
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: apparently called Saga Tuck and it's like forty five minutes

659
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: from my parents house. I never knew this, and I

660
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: went to the They have like a gay like hotel

661
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: thing with a pool called the Dunes, and it actually

662
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: was miserable to see the same people over and over.

663
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean I was only there for three days, and

664
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Speaker 1: I was like, get me out of here, like if

665
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: I because sometimes chosen family is actually not chosen and

666
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Speaker 1: it's just people that are there at the same time

667
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: as you and totally you are forced to be their family.

668
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Speaker 1: And I was like deeply miserable, and I even tried

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Speaker 1: to leave the resort and go to just a restaurant

670
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Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm so tired of like hearing

671
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Speaker 1: club music. I want to look at a duck in

672
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Speaker 1: a pond, like I just need quiet. And you would

673
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Speaker 1: not believe who came to the restaurant the entire group

674
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Speaker 1: of ten gay people that have been like forcing shots

675
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Speaker 1: down my throat for two days. And I was like,

676
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Speaker 1: I need, I so need to be alone. I have

677
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: to say I have to. I'm gonna shot them out

678
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Speaker 1: of my own pipe too, but I have to say

679
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Speaker 1: Saving Graces were like other performers were. Um, one was

680
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: this jig queen called Miss rich Field and she's so

681
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: she was so funny. She's like huge in Provincetown and

682
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Speaker 1: Mr Riche literally so funny. Is that her full name? Yeah,

683
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Speaker 1: Prema said that she like won a Mrs Ridgefield pageant

684
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: and I'd tell you, I'm yes, no, Pat, I get it.

685
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Speaker 1: She was so funny. She had this whole story about

686
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Speaker 1: like how she was doing like because she she's like

687
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Speaker 1: like o g like was doing it back in the

688
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Speaker 1: eighties with like you know, I'm not famous Route Paul whatever,

689
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Speaker 1: and you know she was. She just so funny she's

690
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: doing this. It's not going to translate. But she was

691
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: doing this like bit where she was but not even bit.

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Speaker 1: She saw a story about how she was like doing

693
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Speaker 1: a like a reading hour of her kids at her

694
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Speaker 1: local library because they asked her to, and she was,

695
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Speaker 1: I'll be fun. But then there was like this one

696
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Speaker 1: woman sort of like collecting signature is to get it canceled.

697
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Speaker 1: And then but but just when she was dying it,

698
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Speaker 1: she just kept calling at the library and then she

699
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: kept calling them the librarians, and it was making me

700
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Speaker 1: hall the Librrian And I said, it was just like

701
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: it was just making me laugh so hard for some reason.

702
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: But I don't know. But she's going to be in

703
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Speaker 1: New York November four, and I think I try out

704
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Speaker 1: on the upper at side of ok now you're fully promoting.

705
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna go. I think people should go

706
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Speaker 1: because I just think she's so funny, you know what

707
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean. We're all going, We're all going. Also, Natalie

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00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: Joy Johnson, who played Paulat on Legally Bottom Broadway, was

709
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Speaker 1: there and she was so funny. She left so hard

710
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: and she was a shoot singer and she answered, when

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Speaker 1: you are kind of Member eleven, and I think, yeah,

712
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: I know, they just were my I just thought they

713
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: were so brilliant, both of them, and I just had

714
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: to like, yeah, we can't. We can't make it to

715
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Speaker 1: that show on November eleven, because we're actually gonna be

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Speaker 1: in l A for Vulture first for Vulture. Wow, you

717
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Speaker 1: know I can't make it. I don't think, cause I'm

718
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Speaker 1: gonna I'm headed up to Boston that week. I'm peaking

719
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Speaker 1: for half marathon, and I'm hoping, you know, I have

720
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Speaker 1: some big golds and I'm really hoping to tackle some

721
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Speaker 1: of them to take a step forward on my journey

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00:36:52,719 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: that weekend in Boston. Well, should we do our first segment?

723
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: We are, um, I want to say forty minutes in,

724
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Speaker 1: I know we need to do our first segment. The

725
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Speaker 1: one thing I just kind of wanted to add about resorts,

726
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 1: gay resorts and gay cruises, there's a certain hubris where

727
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: it's like, like, don't mess with the perfection of a

728
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: gay club or bar, like don't make it bigger than

729
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: it needs to be. The good thing about being in

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Speaker 1: like a small gay space is that you can You're

731
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Speaker 1: so grateful that you're there with your chosen family. You

732
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: can look at the window, you know, see straight people

733
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Speaker 1: and be like, oh, thank god, I'm not with them.

734
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Speaker 1: I'm here. But if you're but then if you're suddenly

735
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: with twenty thousand gay people, you're like, honestly, I kind

736
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: of wish I was with the straight people. Well, yeah,

737
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: the problem is gay men are really really annoying, so

738
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Speaker 1: if you have to be on them for too long,

739
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: it could be really bad for your mental health. Can

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00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: I get more mad at the music? To be honest? Like,

741
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: I love bad club music, It's my favorite thing in

742
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: the world, But I don't love it from starting at

743
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: noon to three am. Like, play it starting at nine

744
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: p m. Would be huge, and maybe have a little bill.

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00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: Maybe we have like some quiet music in the afternoon

746
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: and slowly build to the club tracks. But it's just

747
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: do you know what I want to do? What? Oh?

748
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if you talk about this? Yeah, I

749
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: just wait, let's do our first segment and then we

750
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Speaker 1: will and then we will um no, yeah, yeah, I

751
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: don't even know if I want to talk about that,

752
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: Like you like withholding it makes me want to talk

753
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: about it more. Whatever it is, I know, I mean,

754
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: it's it's literally the one thing I want to talk

755
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: about now, but what we actually have to do our

756
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: second first Hat Reagan, our first segment it's called straight Shooters,

757
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: And in this segment we gage your familiarity with in

758
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: complicity and straight culture by asking you a series of nonsensical,

759
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: rapid fire questions where you have to choose one thing

760
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: or another thing. And the one rule is that you

761
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: can't ask any follow up questions about how the game works.

762
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: Do you I do remember and copy? Okay? Hat watching

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Speaker 1: Law and Order SPU or having leftovers of chicken vindaloo,

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Speaker 1: watching on a recipe, Pat random House or Awkward Sauce,

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Speaker 1: Awkward Sauce, Big Time Pat, Angels in America or Women

766
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Speaker 1: in Hollywood Angels in America. Hat, there's something about Mary,

767
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Speaker 1: or we need to talk about Kevin m. There's something

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Speaker 1: about Mary. Hat finite resources or infinite jess Oh, that

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Speaker 1: one's hard. Um infinite infinite okay, Pat. Being out of

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Speaker 1: touch with the youth or being in touch with your

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Speaker 1: financial planner named Ruth. Being out of touch with the youth.

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Speaker 1: A tall glass of water, a hot cup of Joe,

773
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: or this old bag of bones, um, this tall class

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Speaker 1: of water. Okay, beyond days Love on top or Dannen's

775
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: fruit on the bottom. Wow, well Beyonce found dead? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: definitely Dan the bottom. Next note, no question, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to think about that one. Beyonce Danny. I love her,

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Speaker 1: I love her work, and I can slay Mama Queen

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Speaker 1: Dan Danna is not even the Beyonce of yogurt. No who,

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Speaker 1: I would say Joe Bonny. In my world, fi A

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Speaker 1: is the Beyonce of yogurt. To understand that, No, Fia

782
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Speaker 1: is not the Beyonce. Yoga is like Grimes No, no Fris,

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Speaker 1: not even Grimes fives almost like Brittany is almost like

784
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Speaker 1: Brittany because it's been around forever, and but sometimes it's

785
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Speaker 1: like how's she doing? Yeah, it's like, is it okay?

786
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Speaker 1: How do you arn all of these new girls in

787
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Speaker 1: the mix? Beating eyes to her? Siggis is FKA Twigs

788
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Speaker 1: a hundred percent nothing. No comparison has ever been more apt.

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Speaker 1: I want to do more. I want to be more.

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00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: Um yo play is Mandy Moore? Yeah? Yeah for sure.

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00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: Maybe like Mandy Moore, like like ten years ago, before

792
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: this is us, before this is who would be many

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00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: more than what would be Mandy Moore now has gone

794
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: through I think that you has gone through a similar

795
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Speaker 1: evolution as Mandy. You're a you know what, you're winning

796
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: me over where It's like Yo Play did also get

797
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: a big break about five years ago. Yeah, yo Play.

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00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: It was like kind of this like airy whatever yogurt.

799
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: So you know, wait, I have a really good one.

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00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: Go gert is pink. Oh my god, that is really good.

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00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: That's really it is original, but in like the most

802
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Speaker 1: kind of mainstream commercial way. Okay, tricks yogurt is I'm

803
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: to sign between two which way I want to go

804
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: with it? But I think it's I think it's joy.

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00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. Yes, I almost once

806
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: say Miley just because it was like a kid tricks

807
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: over it was a kid once since it was Miley.

808
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: It is Jr. Because it's like based on a cereal

809
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: and Jojoicy was based on like, based on based on

810
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: YouTube and was based on dance so well. And there's

811
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: always been like a queer feeling to Tricks to like

812
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: totally rainbow, yeah, Rainbow like not her Rabbits. Famously famously

813
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: Farness is not her Rabbits always been a gate keeping

814
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: element to Tricks, which is a big part of the

815
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Speaker 1: queer community. Totally, totally, totally, totally what's the famous frozen

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Speaker 1: yogroup rand and um Pinkberry, Oh, pinkberry. Pinkberry was the

817
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: Pinkberry to me is like hedgemonic froyo. It's like non

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00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: indie throw you yeah, yeah, yeah, Pinkberry could be like

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00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: dou Alipa. It's too old, Yeah, it's too old. To

820
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: drag Perry. I think it's Katy Perry. It's Katie Perry.

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Speaker 1: Sterile about Katie, isn't there that I think align Well,

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Speaker 1: don't don't get Sam started. You cannot talk about you

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Speaker 1: do not like her, you do like her. We can't

824
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: talk about Katie Perry. It's not a matter of liking

825
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: or just Sam will quit on the spot. I actually

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Speaker 1: it's just a matter of her being impactful and being

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Speaker 1: and living out loud and being a true image of

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00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: what a pop star is. And you know what, I'll

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00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: say this, I roll my eyes of Pinkberry, of course,

830
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Speaker 1: But then again, in a recent apartment of mine, I

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Speaker 1: live close to Pinkberry. It was the most incredible part

832
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: of my month. Once a month I would go and

833
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: I'd be like, you know what, I'm getting fingers. Yeah,

834
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: but that's why Pinkberry is Katie Party because you roll

835
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Speaker 1: your eyes out it you feel superior, and then you

836
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Speaker 1: have it and you get it. Yeah, and then and

837
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: then Harley's in Hawaii comes out and you're like, oh, okay,

838
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: is the MacArthur genius Grant still giving out a word?

839
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: But this all begs the question like what is Taylor?

840
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: And also does feels like it has to be in

841
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: conversation with Katie being Pinkberry? Do you know what I mean? Yeah?

842
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: To me, Taylor is like a non dairy option, but

843
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: not the cool one. Really, I was racking my brain.

844
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: I was thinking. I was say, thinking the other day

845
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: about like Katie Party and Tellership not like each other,

846
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: Like how much that once meant to me and how

847
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: like a little a part of my life it is today.

848
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just forget it all that it used

849
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: to be a huge part. I know this isn't yogurt,

850
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: but I do think it's like we're like kind of

851
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: moving on. Like I think Taylor is cold Stone Creamery.

852
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but it's almost like I hate to say it,

853
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: like cold Stone almost, so I'm gonna, you know say,

854
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: I always tell this story. Is it the story? I

855
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: don't know, but it is me watching. I always tell

856
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: my students this story. I was all the students this story,

857
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: and it's an amazing teaching story about when you're trying

858
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: to get your students to be able to identify what

859
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: yogurt tailor is. And so I was about her, like Vogue,

860
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: however many questions you remember, Yeah, and so they said

861
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: she was in her kitchen and one of the questions

862
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: was favorite food. And she looked at the camera and

863
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: she said, if calories don't count, chicken chi contenders, and so,

864
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: like I fought with that answer. She can't be called stone,

865
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: which is kind of and I kind of indulge in, Yeah,

866
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: she needs to be a little more diet. Yeah, she

867
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: needs to be almost like not halo top, but like

868
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: maybe halotop. But that's like so focused on the calories.

869
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: It's like it's actually it's literally like you know what

870
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: she she is. She is Hogen Dah's sorbet because it's basic.

871
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: But it's like, all right, it's something different at least, yeah,

872
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: it's like something different. And then you're like, I guess

873
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: I think mostly what we're heading on is like the

874
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: type of yogurt the Taylor Swift is is ice cream. Yes,

875
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: there's no we've only we've only just in casting this,

876
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: we've only discussed ice cream. Yeahom out and like to

877
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: do that. That's what we already have it. Wow. Wow,

878
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: I love I do love Taylor. I have to say

879
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't actually know how both

880
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: you feel about her. George you like her, and Samy

881
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: you are not obsessed with her, not obsessed with her.

882
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: I am not obsessed with her either. I My thing

883
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: with Taylor was, you know, I've had to kind of

884
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: embrace and not be as much of a critic the

885
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: older I get. You know, I used to be honestly

886
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: like bothered by Taylor. I used to be like, is

887
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: everyone stupid that likes this musician? And then I think

888
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: around the time of reputation, when I actually kind of

889
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: appreciated how I kind of appreciated how how like ridiculous

890
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: reputation where I was like, oh, you're being so aggressively uncool,

891
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: and like it's like she does. I do think it

892
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: is like that, I appreciate it. I was like, does

893
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: Taylor have the Hannover about the omer because it's like

894
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: the way people talk about her, they would never talk

895
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: about any other singer, where it's like you need like

896
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: the way that some people like, the way that the

897
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: general public speaks about it. It's like unique, this is

898
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: a youth thing, you know what I mean? Of course,

899
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: of course, but there is I think what I remember

900
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: specifically this was during the era what was the album

901
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: before reputation? Yes, so that was a huge hit. Yeah,

902
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: I mean ninety nine is so good that I could

903
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: cry talking about it. Even my dumbass was nine as

904
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: a hater, so that was like my peak. That was

905
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: my peak hater era where I was like, I remember

906
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: being so annoyed that the cover is literally like a

907
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: hipstomatic Instagram print, where I was like, this is not

908
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: cool anymore, Like how is how how is she tricking

909
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: everyone into thinking it is okay for her cover to

910
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: be a Hips thematic print? Yeah, that's fair. Next to

911
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: me too, where you been a showing so so then

912
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: I remember her being like literally and then oh my god,

913
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: look at that face. He looked like my next mistake. Yeah,

914
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: it's a game I want to play. Incredible, you know what?

915
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: This was pique the era of and Sam and I

916
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: have talked about this straight men being like Taylor Swift

917
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: is a like blank Space by Taylor Swift is a

918
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: perfect pop song, and like it's actually a perfect pop song.

919
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: And then that the combination of like that's not her fault.

920
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: I know it's not her fault, but I think, like

921
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: I think that was what really turned me into haitter.

922
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: It was like it was like straight men saying it's

923
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: a pop song. It was her being on the cover

924
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: of like Bloomberg, and it was like it was her

925
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: face and it was like, I might be a little

926
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: off about this, but I think the headline was literally

927
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: like Taylor Swift is the music industry? Like that was

928
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: like that, it was like her face with that headline,

929
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: and there was something about it where I was like,

930
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: why is everyone being insane? Like she's fine, but you know,

931
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm like there are people doing like why isn't anyone

932
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: talking about I don't know, art pop an equal measure.

933
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: There was like the rhetoric of like charged had six boyfriends?

934
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: Is that okay? Because she's gonna take pen to paper

935
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: and writ ash song about it. It's like you know

936
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: what she were dead and what you were dead? Like

937
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: I mean, like all women she has been crucified by

938
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: the meeting. Yeah, yes, yeah, but the other side of

939
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: crucification is you know, being christ So. But by my

940
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: point being that after when I was like at my

941
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: peak hater, then Reputation came out and I actually became

942
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: the defender where I was like, people were making fun

943
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: of Reputation and I was like, no, no, no, no no,

944
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: this I like, I mean, Delicate is such a damn smash. Yeah,

945
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: delicate dress. Yes, I'm gonna delicate. You know my kank

946
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: is listening to Endgame and thinking about my prushures. I

947
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: love Endgame, I mean I love Reputation is a great album. Yeah,

948
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: except for that one terrible song, back it Up, whatever

949
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: it's called. Look what made me do? What about that one? No? One?

950
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: Actually I kind of think it's funny. Wait oh, then

951
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the one shake it Out that's like

952
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: maybe one of the worst songs ever written. That's that's

953
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: my at least that is tied with the Welcome to

954
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: New York. I was like, well, the two things that

955
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: that really bring into into the shadowsphere of more of

956
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: mortals where it's like, Welcome to New York is the

957
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: funniest funniest song. Well, yeah, Welcome to New York. If

958
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: it's intentional comedy is brilliant. Sometimes not. Sometimes I worry

959
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: that Welcome to New York is an intentional comedy. I

960
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: don't need intent. I don't need intent for to work

961
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 1: bad songs. And also the fact that Jake it Off

962
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: was the lead single that was I was like, that

963
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: was really upsetting. Why was that? I actually had to

964
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: swivel back my X factory chair and say you're not

965
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: ready yet, and see I'm eating the golden buzz. But

966
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: then with reputation, even the bad songs quote unquote bad

967
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: songs I thought were actually so bad, they were good.

968
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: Like I did every song on reputation, I can get

969
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: into wait and girls and girls we have to gave me.

970
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: That was the end of the card. Just that came out,

971
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: come out in New York. This is the line boys

972
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: and you can want who you want? Boys and boys

973
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: and girls and girls. Well wait, wait, we need to

974
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: get into our topic. We actually need to. I cannot

975
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: believe we've been talking about Taylor Swift this whole time. No, no,

976
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: it's okay. And I actually I'm gonna go so far

977
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: as to say I'm gonna go so far as to

978
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: say everything we've been talking about so far actually is

979
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: related to our topic, which is celebrating love. Yeah, celebrating

980
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: abby And I actually would say my favorite Taylor Swift

981
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: eras are the one where she's not celebrating love. That's

982
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: why I did not like love her. I did like lover,

983
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: I didn't, but I don't like Yeah, so celebrating love, Sorry,

984
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not. I will not be doing on

985
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: us celebrating love. Tell us what you think is straight

986
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: about celebrating love? Okay, Celebrating love to me is very

987
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 1: like Okay, it's like and the only word that's coming

988
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: to mind about celebrating love, and you're not gonna be

989
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: using this word, um, but it's like choogy, you know

990
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's very like I've never used

991
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: that word in my life. Expert in this moment to

992
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: explain how you go about people celebrating love, and it's

993
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: very celebrating love is like, you know, there's an epidemic

994
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: right now with straight geriatric millennials, straight thirty something's low

995
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: thirties where they but they'll be doing is load a

996
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: mid load a mid thirties. But they'll be doing is

997
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: they'll be going to weddings every single weekend and they'll

998
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: do full grid posts that for each wedding, and they'll

999
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: they had so much fun celebrating at Brian and at

1000
00:52:54,280 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: Amanda in his love And it's like, okay, like, why

1001
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: are you saying it like this? Yeah, why are you

1002
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: telling me that you have fun celebrating your lot? You

1003
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: should literally comment, why are you saying it like that?

1004
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: Just say, just say wedding. I had fun at Brian

1005
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: and at Amanda's wedding. It was a beautiful ceremony. Celebrating love.

1006
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Culture has almost replaced the wedding hashtag, which was a

1007
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: dark time for humanity. Like, I think we're moving away

1008
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: from wedding hashtags, which is I think the right choice

1009
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: for us as a species. I mean, you'd be surprised.

1010
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I don't think we're moving past it. Actually,

1011
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't think we're moving past it. In my orbit,

1012
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: a lot of straight people have been moving past. What

1013
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: have they been doing instead? I mean I do think organizationally,

1014
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: it's nice they've been doing. Had so much fun celebrating

1015
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: at Brian and at and I just love thank you

1016
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: for including us and celebrating your lots. I would actually

1017
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: prefer a hashtag in my orbit. In my orbit, that's

1018
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: what straight's up been doing. Yeah, I want that there

1019
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: are different sides of the same coin. Is this better?

1020
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: Is this? Is this progress? Absolutely? Is there still huge

1021
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: systemic problems? Absolutely? I think that. I think that like

1022
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: in many ways the wedding hashtag was celebrating love and

1023
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: the straight stuff. I think the straights even got embarrassed

1024
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: at the point at certain point, and sometimes share people

1025
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: take it takes a lot for them to get to

1026
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: feel embarrassment, and I think that sometimes they only feel

1027
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: it when it's too late. Yeah. They yeah, they feel

1028
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: about three years too late. They're like, oh, I'm humiliative.

1029
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: Here's here's here's to me. What's emblematic of straight people

1030
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: feeling embarrassment. It's like they will have fully like a

1031
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: wedding on a plantation, and then they'll suddenly feel embarrassment

1032
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: and do and do a land acknowledgement like that. That

1033
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: that is straight people feeling embarrassed. They can't they're like

1034
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: moving too fast to actually be embarrassed as they're making actions,

1035
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: and so then suddenly they'll be like, well, celebrating our love.

1036
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: And also we waited until gay people could get married

1037
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: to get married, right, And I also said that I

1038
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: think that like, yes, so celebrating love was this impulse

1039
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: I think largely by the straight people to make gay

1040
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: people have marriage of quality, like you know, Indu strates

1041
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: kind of like moral conundrum of like should gave people

1042
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: get married or is that kind of an house thing?

1043
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: I they were kind of they were like, okay, they

1044
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: can have it, because they kind of assigned this need

1045
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: to celebrate love to gaze when it's it's that it's

1046
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: like a disease. They struggle out, so they're like oh.

1047
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: They felt like they finally like it clipped for them

1048
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: when they were like, okay, you should be able to

1049
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: celebrate love. Well, love is love, love will love is love,

1050
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: and it needs to be celebrated in any form it

1051
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: does take exactly Well, it was kind of like what

1052
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: about two guys and they were like, well no, and

1053
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: then it was like, but what if they were in love?

1054
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: And then it was like yea, would you not want

1055
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: to celebrate that? I mean, it's why yeah, oh well

1056
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: then that needs to be celebrated. And they're like, oh

1057
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 1: wait a minute, my mind has been changed, and that's

1058
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: why conversation between opposing sides is so important and exactly right. Right,

1059
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: But yes, but I think what was I saying before

1060
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: he started? How did I get into this? But that's

1061
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: why I think the Game Marriage has largely been a

1062
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: flop at the box office. They can it's kind of

1063
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: because it's been couched in this like celebrating love. That's

1064
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: not what's appealing about it. In the way that the

1065
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: marketing campaign for the film, Bros. I think failed it

1066
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: because it was it focused exclusively on its importance and

1067
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: not on like what was fun about it was just

1068
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: which too to put it in gay marriage terms. What's

1069
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: fun about it is that it's so silly because it's

1070
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: two guys or girls getting married, right, it's inherently funny.

1071
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it doesn't matter the intent, they should

1072
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: be different, but they're the thing. You know, was it

1073
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: a box office flop? I now pronounce you chunking Larry

1074
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean. You do not have to tell

1075
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: them that time. We are leading the campaign to bring

1076
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: that film back. Okay, this is actually that you're actually

1077
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: making such a great point, which is that Game Marriage

1078
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: it's marketed all wrong was promoted using the Bros. Marketing

1079
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: campaign round than the now pronouncy check in Larry campaign,

1080
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: which is it's just silly, it's just silly, it's just playing,

1081
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: it's just playing silly. It should have promoted as a rump. Yeah,

1082
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: it was like, no one prop it's just silly. It

1083
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: should have been promoted even pointing to sort of it's

1084
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: gross out elements say can you believe this? You're gonna

1085
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: want to see this? Oh, you know, yeah, I've been

1086
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: wondering lately if I am gay. I tell you guys

1087
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: that I just I'm like, and then you've been wondering

1088
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: if you are not gay. Sometimes I'm like sucking a

1089
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: dick and I'm like, shouldn't I be liking this? More

1090
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: like but in a way that You're like, why is

1091
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: this so I'll be sucking deck? And all bid is

1092
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: actually gross to me? Right now, I understand it's like

1093
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, because I must be straight, and gay's fantasy. Straight,

1094
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: gay's famtasy gross to straight people. Are you feeling potentially

1095
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: by are you feeling attracted to I'm no, definitely not

1096
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: by by any mean, just not gay, decidedly not gay.

1097
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you're just going through a less you're you're going

1098
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: through a less horny phase. Not also not any sexual

1099
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but I am so horrid. It's I'm back.

1100
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: I forgot how I get when I'm single, which is

1101
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: that I get very obsessive around hook up culture and

1102
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: then when it comes to brass tacks like when I'm

1103
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: in it, I'm like, oh God, like, how do I

1104
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: get out of this? Like oh this is terrible? Like

1105
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: you have to do all these things to this person,

1106
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: Like that sounds awful, Like this is gross, Like you

1107
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: like it. It's okay to say, I don't know, it's

1108
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: very powerful to say. I mean, I cannot relate at all,

1109
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: but I can say that you are beautiful and you

1110
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: are valid. And I was saying, oh um, yeah, I

1111
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm I'm mostly kidding, but I am kind

1112
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: of like, what is my deal with sex? I do

1113
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: think it's just shrouded in and if I do look

1114
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: up with someone, there's so many levels of shame to

1115
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: work through because it's like, for one, just like in

1116
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: general sucks, Like even if I was straight, I think

1117
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: I would still feel a sham or on sets and

1118
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: for two gay sets that it's been so ingrained of

1119
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: like this is so bad and if you do what

1120
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: you are so actually bad. So then there's that to

1121
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: like kind of unpack, you know, the day after. And

1122
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: then there's this other level of him that has finally

1123
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: been able to like acknowledge and sort of been like

1124
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: where I feel we were guilt or something, or like

1125
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the other person, where I'm like

1126
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: and that's just like a meet thing where I'm like,

1127
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: oh that sucks. Like I'm like, oh that sucks. They

1128
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: had to cook up with me, Like I feel so

1129
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: bad for them, like actually like said I say sorry

1130
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: or something, or I should say like actually, like I'm sorry,

1131
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you had to do that. I'm so sorry.

1132
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: I feel no. But the last thing I relate to,

1133
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's this kind of like it's this insane

1134
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: insecurity when even in the pro even you will literally

1135
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: be having sex with someone and there's a part of

1136
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 1: you that things do they like me? Do they want to? Yeah,

1137
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: they're they're they're like throwing your bone like oh my god,

1138
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: I hope you know what I mean, Like I should

1139
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: let them out of that, you know you or something. Yeah,

1140
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: you're like wait, let's zoom out just f y, I'm

1141
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: sorry about my body. Yeah, I'm really, really deeply sorry.

1142
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: I know I can tell you wish it was a

1143
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: different body, and I apologize for that. I can tell

1144
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: you feel tricked and I want to say I'm sorry

1145
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: for that. But anyways, it's tough one of the time,

1146
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'll say this, one of the toughest things

1147
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: is having that is feeling no shame about sex and

1148
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: yet still struggling to feel comfortable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, elaborate.

1149
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm confused. No, all I'm saying is that, like I

1150
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: relate only to Pat's final point, which is about like

1151
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: about insecurity, where I'm like, I'm it takes a lot

1152
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: for me to be like, Okay, I am comfortable being

1153
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, being naked with someone it sex itself is

1154
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: not shameful to you. Yeah. No, no, sex is not

1155
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: shameful at all. I have no hang ups about it.

1156
01:00:50,840 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't like I was back back, Okay, I'm being

1157
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: the bottom of members where you're totally the bottom has

1158
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: influenced you in such a powerful way, your risks have

1159
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: never been limper. It is fully the insecurity of like

1160
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: at any given point, someone could change, could could be like, oh,

1161
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: you thought I liked the fact that we are currently

1162
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: in the middle of having sex that I initiated, you

1163
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: must be stupid. Yeah, yes, totally um. And also yeah,

1164
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: take I just have another like celebrating love thing where

1165
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: that I also feel like part of I'm sure you've

1166
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: discussed this in the mob, but I also feel like

1167
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: part of celebrating I don't know how this connects, but

1168
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: like part of celebrating love culture is also somehow gender

1169
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: reveals because it's also like this weird thing where it's

1170
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: like it takes these sex these people have had and

1171
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: it makes it like their families around and they're popping

1172
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: a balloon full of like glitter or what do you

1173
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And it's like literally desexualizing sex.

1174
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: Like the celebrating love thing is fully taking sex out

1175
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: of it. That's like what the gay marriage argument was,

1176
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: was it like, well, don't forget that we're also horny

1177
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: and crazy and we're allowed to be that way. Total. Well,

1178
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: the other thing with all of this stuff is that

1179
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: it is celebrating the most normal, conventional It's literally like

1180
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: let's have let's have a celebration because we dated for

1181
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: two years. Let's have a celebration because we got pregnant.

1182
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: It is celebrating the quote unquote normal like heteroonormative course

1183
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: of life. At every stage, you have to have a party. Yes,

1184
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: would you guys call me if I got where I

1185
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: got some mortar? Really correct? Please? Okay, we'll talk. So

1186
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: how do you think this is going? I think that's

1187
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: doing really really good. I agree. You know, I thought,

1188
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, this is someone who is a is a

1189
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: veteran of the podcasting industry, and I thought maybe he

1190
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: would come in, he would be kind of you know,

1191
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: we'd be beneath him. He wouldn't want to share things

1192
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: because he was holding them for his own podcast. And

1193
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: I actually think if anything, he's talked too much. I

1194
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: would say he's been so so selfless in that he's

1195
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: been talking a lot and giving a lot of information,

1196
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: personal details and even opinions. Yeah yeah, even even talking

1197
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: over us and actually kind of like monologuing in a

1198
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: way that some people might find to be you know,

1199
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: it's like enough, right, Yeah, you know, I've I've been

1200
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: sort of going along for the ride because I do

1201
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: find that Pat is one of those performers where it's

1202
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: it's sort of um almost like a Republican meme of

1203
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: like either buckle up, Buttercup and get on board. Um.

1204
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: And I feel that way when I'm around Path, and

1205
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: I actually find it to be such an interesting journey um,

1206
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: and an interesting approach of you know, speaking up when

1207
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: you need. When we're talking about to the Swift too much,

1208
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: you say, actually, let's stop this. I don't want to

1209
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: be talking about to the Swift any longer. He did that. No,

1210
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: I did that. I was like, let's move on to

1211
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: the Well. It's kind of nice because is so intelligent

1212
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: and so naturally funny that you kind of don't have

1213
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: to feel bad for like hunting him in a different direction.

1214
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: He's like talking, talking, talking, and you can be like

1215
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: okay and now switched to the topic and he's like,

1216
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: oh god, it's talking again. I actually do find that

1217
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: to be such just like he's not offended. Yeah, no,

1218
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: it's just perfect. And that's such a natural he really is.

1219
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: What as about what are you guys talking about? Oh? Nothing,

1220
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 1: you were talking about your performance so far? Yeah? Oh wait,

1221
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: good or bad? Really good? But we were just saying

1222
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: you're such a natural at talking through ideas that when

1223
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: we want you to change topic, we can just like

1224
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: tell you and then you're back, You're on a different

1225
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: topic immediately, Oh my god, good okay. Per five, we

1226
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 1: can just be like no more Taylor Swift topic now,

1227
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 1: and then you're like okay, here we go, oh fine, okay, good.

1228
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: And it's really actually amazing to see. Oh my god,

1229
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: people's brains work differently than mine. I feel like when

1230
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: I watch you talk and think, I'm like I'm the slowest,

1231
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: dumbest person alive, Like I'm like, why don't we talk

1232
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: to tell that the speed I'm like really support I

1233
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: would say, I do think. I'm like I think that

1234
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: I have like an hour and then like of like

1235
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: really kind of focused mental energy, and then like once

1236
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: I spend it, then it's very much like my brain feels,

1237
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: for a lack of a better word, inflamed, like my

1238
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: brain took. I feel like it's swollen and too large

1239
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 1: for my skull, like or something like it's worked too hard,

1240
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: and then literally like you're overheating. You're you're literally like

1241
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna do this. You're literally eleven from stranger things,

1242
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: and then you're using your power and then you have

1243
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: like a nose bleed afterwards, yeah, you're bleeding out of

1244
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: your eyes. Literally, I'm a laptop that's on your lap,

1245
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: in your bad and it's so hot because you have

1246
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: too many tabs open. That's like a beautiful poem that

1247
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: sounds that could be like a little emo song lyric.

1248
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I love pop punk. That famous pop

1249
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: punk coun start. That's happening, that famous one way? Can

1250
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: I go pee? And you guys talk about my performance?

1251
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: What the hell to be so bad? Okay, you guys

1252
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: talk a gopee. I know there's a sort of beautiful

1253
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: symmetry to you getting water and shampeding. Yeah, totally. I'm

1254
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: so glad lately I've been like really drinking water, like

1255
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: in a focused way. I actually, you know, it's one

1256
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: of the few things I really believe. It's one of

1257
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: these kind of conventional things everyone talks about that they

1258
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: are right about. It's so true. Drinking water is so true,

1259
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: And then every now and then people will At some

1260
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: point someone was like, it's such an American thing to

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01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: drink water. In France, they don't drink water, and I

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01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,959
Speaker 1: was like, I don't care. I don't care. I don't

1263
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: believe that. Yeah, you're wrong. I actually feel like drinking

1264
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: water connects us all over the globe to each other. Yes,

1265
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: I think that, But when argument for drinking water that

1266
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: I actually don't believe in and then I actually want

1267
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: to lobby against, is like some people like you need

1268
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: to be drinking water because your body is actually percent water.

1269
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: If you're not drinking water then and like even if

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01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: my body was literally all water and I was a

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01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: water being and I was made of water, like even

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01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: still I don't believe. So you're saying I gonna disappear

1273
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: if I don't drink water because there will be no

1274
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: more water for me to be. What are you talking about? Like,

1275
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: shut up? So it's like that's like saying, like you

1276
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: should really be eating bones because you have a lot

1277
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: of bones, because you're made of bones. I just want

1278
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: to say, I'm like not impressed by the fact that

1279
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: there was a lot of water in my body. That

1280
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: is something that does nothing for me. I don't care

1281
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: if it's fifty percent or sixty or seventy percent. I

1282
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: actively don't care about percentage of water. I am like,

1283
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, many things are many things are water, and

1284
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: many things are liquid, and that also makes sense for

1285
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: inside your body totally totally. We don't. I mean, if

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01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: you were to tell me, you know, fift of my

1287
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: body is solid carrot gold, then I'd be impressed, totally totally.

1288
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: It's like I don't care how much of my First

1289
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: of all, I also it's like a lot of my

1290
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: body is bones. A lot of my body is a lot.

1291
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: No one's ever talking about that. No one's ever like,

1292
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, did you know actually twenty percent of your

1293
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: body is bones? Um? Wait, what was he just gonna say?

1294
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: It actually crucial to this, It's actually crucial with this conversation,

1295
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: but I can't remember. It'll come, It'll come. Even want

1296
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: to counterpoint George's point of um, if your body was

1297
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: seventy gold, that it would matter a lot. I still

1298
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't care. I would still be like, okay, like unless

1299
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 1: I guess by that point if we would know it, like, yeah,

1300
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: it's gone, I'm gonna make a ring out of that. Well,

1301
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna harvest my body gold. No, I'm gonna just

1302
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: go to work like I always do. And sometimes says water,

1303
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well drink me, bat drink The other

1304
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: thing with every learning facts that are true of every person,

1305
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: it's like, well, that's not interesting because it's true for everyone.

1306
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, show me, like, show me the Guinness World

1307
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: record of most water someone has in their body, and

1308
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 1: then I'll be impressed and even least and even least,

1309
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: I mean that would actually be even more impressive if

1310
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: you're like literally dried out, but you're still going to work, right.

1311
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: It's it's like, is it interesting that I'm made of water? No?

1312
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: Is it interesting that I'm a scorpio? Absolutely, because that

1313
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: it's inherent to me at the percent. And actually that

1314
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: goes back to the celebrating left thing, because it's like,

1315
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: what's interesting about gay people is not that they also love, No,

1316
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: it that they have anal sex. You know, I've been

1317
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: talking a lot about this idea of side. You know,

1318
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: you guys know about sides. Oh yes, Sam taught me that. Okay.

1319
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: So my experience on sides is that I didn't say

1320
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: what they are. Okay, I didn't know anything. I have

1321
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: to for me to get there, I have to explain

1322
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: how I learned what they were that I didn't. I

1323
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about sides at all. And then I

1324
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: was thinking when I was abroad about downloading an app

1325
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: like a hookup app or something, and so I ended

1326
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: up googling around, like in this country, I'm in what absolute?

1327
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: What absolute people? Because I wasn't sure if it was

1328
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: the same. Somehow, in that Google search, I ended up

1329
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: reading this article that was had nothing to do with

1330
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: what I had googled, and it was about It was

1331
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: this very self important kind of article that was saying,

1332
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: how grind, How in a huge revolutionary moment, Grinder was finally,

1333
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: at long last offering sides as a position, side as

1334
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: a position as opposed to just the famous three of

1335
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: top bottom, reverse, And so it was like, this is

1336
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: finally happening. This is so good and important, and like

1337
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: this is amazing, like progress is being made. You can

1338
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: now say you're aside. It was on the A. C.

1339
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: L U website. Yeah, yeah, And so my favorite quote

1340
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: from the article because there were some quotes from different

1341
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: sides about about the big about the big change ruling,

1342
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: about the big ruling that side right about adoption, and

1343
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: so there was one quote from an older side who

1344
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: had been aside for his whole adult life, and his

1345
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 1: quote was we've always been here, but now we're stepping

1346
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: into the light. And so what sides are people that

1347
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: don't have anal sex and so they do oral and

1348
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: they do quote frictional stuff, and and the art quality

1349
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: said that some people that they often call the frictional

1350
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: stuff outer course, which is interesting, kind of a fun

1351
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: plan on words. That is a fun plan words. I'm

1352
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: always calling sex intercourse, saying me and my friends are

1353
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: having intercourse tonight. Sam is always saying intercourse employs the

1354
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: existence of outer course. So it was really cool when

1355
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: that was validated. Finally, Yeah, that was amazing when I

1356
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: was validated, Yeah, I um. And then yeah it was

1357
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: on you know, I did join Tinder just as a joke,

1358
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: A joke at myself. Sounds like already laughing, hilarica. It

1359
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a joke, sounds like a sincere statement.

1360
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: It's so interesting how people are in that on the application,

1361
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: because what will anyway, they stop our sound into last night,

1362
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: and there was their whole bio and then the last

1363
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: sentence of their bio was oh, and I'm aside by

1364
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: the way, It's like okay, step into the light. And

1365
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: and and one thing that I'm actually obsessed with, which

1366
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: is a huge part of Tinder that I've noticed this

1367
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: culture around the amount of countries you've been to where

1368
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: everyone's many. People are always saying how many they've been,

1369
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: so there will be like a normal sentence might be

1370
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: thirty three countries and counting who will join me on

1371
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: my next country? Oh my god, I don't care how

1372
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: many countries you've been to at all. And then one

1373
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: person one of their pictures was literally a world map

1374
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: with the countrys they've been too highlighted, and it's like,

1375
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: why are you talking about? Wow, I've actually never heard

1376
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: about this, Sam, have you? That is so weird? No,

1377
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: I've not heard of this? Is that? Because they're like,

1378
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: is that like a dog whistle for like, I'm rich

1379
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: and I want you to be rich? I will say

1380
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: I did set my things to like I can only

1381
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: see you if you're a thirty seven or older. So

1382
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: maybe it's like an older person thing. I don't know. Uh, okay,

1383
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: first of all, put a pinem wapped, but I am, um,

1384
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: it's so interesting. I mean this is not an original statement,

1385
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: but like in dating apps, you know, you have to

1386
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: find different ways essentially to identify, and you kind of

1387
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: run out of the obvious ones pretty soon. I mean,

1388
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: you know you age, uh, location and whether you're or

1389
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: not you are a side, and so when you run

1390
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: out of those, then suddenly you start listing countries like

1391
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: talking about like like my favorite is when people do

1392
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: like fake aggressive things when they're like, you know, devil

1393
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: worse pot is the best romantic comedy. Don't at me.

1394
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to Yeah, yeah, no one wants to

1395
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,839
Speaker 1: debate you. My favorite thing about like any of the apps,

1396
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: And this has been going on for a long time.

1397
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: It's like when people are so micromagy in or buy

1398
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: or about how they want you to talk to them,

1399
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: like just in the app. So like if it's famously,

1400
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: it's like, don't just message me and say hi. Do

1401
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: not if you start conversation with Hi, it's not a match,

1402
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: and say, literally, how else do you want to start

1403
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: in this conversation? Like a quote, like a quote from

1404
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: a Bronte novel, like what are you talking about? You

1405
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like then it breeds like an

1406
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: even worse type where it's like they have like an

1407
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: opening line they send everybody that's like a little clever

1408
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: and a little and it's just like this is worse,

1409
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: Like don't do that, just stay hi. Yeah, just whether

1410
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: or not people say hi, it's so much less important

1411
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: than being the type of person who would write, don't

1412
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 1: message me saying hi. That's what that person doesn't understand

1413
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: is that they are saying so much more about themselves

1414
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: by being the type of person that has that in

1415
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: their bio than anyone else could say with an opening. Yeah,

1416
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: it's like b mask befit like that's that's the other

1417
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 1: one where it's like a mandate, like don't tell me

1418
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: what you could say. This is what I like, but

1419
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: don't tell me as the reader, just me, as a

1420
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: reader who has never met you. Don't tell me what

1421
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: to be. You know what I mean. I'll be what

1422
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: I am. I'll be what I am. No. My favorite

1423
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: is um Midwest gay hook up sites, like when you're

1424
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: in the Midwest and you check them and it's always

1425
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: like looking for saying normal guy outdoor, average plane, Please

1426
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: don't be crazy, and it's like you sound I never

1427
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: please don't be crazy. It's like, this is not how

1428
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: I need, This is not how we as a as

1429
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: a as a human racing to be talking about mental health. Yeah,

1430
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: my set sap by, I was saying please don't be crazy, Like, yeah,

1431
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 1: if I was struggling with mental health, is you. I

1432
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: would love to not be crazy. I have a favor

1433
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: to you because you've asked me to do just for

1434
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: my own well being. Actually, like insanity, we're as crazy. Also,

1435
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: there's another thing people do where they are This is

1436
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: a Tinder because there is obviously like huge difference tonneling

1437
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: and like grinder and Tinder. Yeah, I've actually never been

1438
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: on Tinder. Tinder, it's been I hadn't before this like

1439
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: current like you know, recent foray into single them, and

1440
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: I also like you know, I'm on it in a way.

1441
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: And when I say as a joke, it's also almost

1442
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: anthropological just in a sense of like I don't want

1443
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: to be in a relationship right now and I don't

1444
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: for a while. So it's like I don't want to

1445
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 1: actually you know, meet with these people and like whatever.

1446
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: And I also don't like to go on you know,

1447
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 1: this kind of micro level of like non fame of

1448
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: like I don't want to go on Grinder where it's

1449
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: like literally the only people that I don't know whom

1450
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: I knew who I am, or like gaze in like

1451
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: New York and l A. And so when I'm in

1452
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,839
Speaker 1: those two cities I don't like. I'm also so ashamed

1453
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: of like anything about me being on grind or like

1454
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: how I act, how I am, what I say, like

1455
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: when I'm looking for it's just like I don't want

1456
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: anyone who knows who I am to see that. I

1457
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: want them to see that and so um so anyways, tender.

1458
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 1: There's another thing where it's like guys and and it's

1459
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: the kind of guys that are looking for real relationships

1460
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 1: or something I think where it's because you know, you

1461
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: have this bio, you have these few sentences where you

1462
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,520
Speaker 1: need to convince someone that you're like worthy of love essentially,

1463
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: and so they will be like one line that gets

1464
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 1: that's actually kind of common is in a certain kind

1465
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: of guys, like I have an amazing group of friends,

1466
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: Like they love to say that. It's like time so

1467
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 1: I've seen I have an amazing group of friends a

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01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: lot actually, and then last I saw and then last

1469
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: night I saw this guy that the sentence was judge

1470
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: people by the company they keep. I have an amazing

1471
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: group of great friends who I'm close with, And it's like,

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01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: what are you actually talking about? Like like were you

1473
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: actually talking about? Like it's just so it's just so

1474
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: interesting and that's like and that's what like and then

1475
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: that all does connect to like then like four years later,

1476
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 1: this guy who's like apples are like seven visions is

1477
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: that they've been before two countries and counting and they

1478
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: have an amazing group of friends and don't say hi

1479
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: to them. Now it's like we've fallen in love and

1480
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: now we're like getting married to me to like celebrate love.

1481
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 1: It's it's so yeah, you know what I mean, Like

1482
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: these are when we say we're celebrating love, that's what

1483
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: we're celebrating. Were celebrating. Like two years ago, I was

1484
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: sitting on my couch and like swiping through like Rando's

1485
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: and like you told me not to say how to

1486
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: use my didner, but somehow it's still worse. And like

1487
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: now our fountilies here like at this event space and

1488
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: we're celebrating love now and now my family and like

1489
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: truly eight people from like my like indie improv teams

1490
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: that I did shows, but they're like at the cement space.

1491
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 1: Because another thing I've been seeing in my thirties is

1492
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: like it's so crazy because it's like, you know, I

1493
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: got me to start at you see bitch and so

1494
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: like it's just so interest thing to see, Like, you know,

1495
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: so I have, you know, residually all these people I

1496
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: followed Instagram, who who are wonderful people whatever? Some are

1497
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: still in the comedy space and some are not. And

1498
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: but some of them, you know, it's like those two

1499
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: people from that one indie team used to do shows

1500
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: with at St. Mark's like ended up getting who like

1501
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: hooked up that night at like grassroots, Like now we're

1502
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: getting married, and like all these people from these indie

1503
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: improp teams that you kind of forgot exist there or

1504
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: there and you kind of remember who was on what team,

1505
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: and like it's just so strange. They're all celebrating love together.

1506
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 1: It's actually insane. It's also like the best case scenarios

1507
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: they get married, because it's either the people that we

1508
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: know from UTV are either getting married now or they

1509
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: have become all right yea, or they are celebrating celebrating

1510
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: their love of Q. It's funny because, like, you know,

1511
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: I watched them a lot of reality TV and a

1512
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: lot of like not an ulter reality TV for I

1513
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: guess our demographic where it's like I'll watch like, you know,

1514
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: CBS reality shows are right now. I'm working through the

1515
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: canton of Big Brother Canada, which is actually really good.

1516
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: And that's not in scolding. It's unly you're scolding people, Yeah,

1517
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: I and I. So it's just in the in the house.

1518
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: A lot of times they'll have showmances where you know,

1519
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: a romance that happens on a show, and you know,

1520
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: some of them will happen years ago. In the same

1521
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: part of my brain that is like activated by like

1522
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: showman finding out a showman's from like eight seasons ago,

1523
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: a Big Brother is now married. Is the same part

1524
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: of my brain that is activated by like people from

1525
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: the Indian prophecy and getting married to each other and like,

1526
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: oh so it did. Oh that wasn't just a showman's

1527
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: that didn't happen, you know what I mean? That did happen.

1528
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 1: My question is, Okay, I have not in my life

1529
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: yet been to a gay wedding me neither. Wow, what

1530
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: the hell I've been to two? I believe. Wow, that's

1531
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: a lot. That's a lot. You must be like really

1532
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: traditional family. Yeah, well I really I was kind of

1533
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: I was really on the forefront of sending all the

1534
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: people that were too gay to the resorts so that

1535
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, we could finally have married quality people that

1536
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 1: are too gay. And you know what, judge people based

1537
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 1: on the company they keep. And I have a group

1538
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: of amazing friends and they're all married, and well, I

1539
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: will say those people at the like those kind of

1540
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: those people, like when we talk, the laptop is overheating

1541
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: out those kinds of people who I am one of

1542
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: these type of people. This kind of like very like

1543
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: mainstream gay like Jack from Mull and Grace gay that

1544
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: is the kind of gay that does get married. You

1545
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 1: know what. I know it's interesting that you say that

1546
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: because they're fitting. They're fitting into the straight idea of

1547
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: of capital G gay as used to like you know,

1548
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: for Clinton queer or whatever. Like these people with these

1549
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: are people who don't have mullets. These are people who

1550
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: are lawyers and work in HR and like they are

1551
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: the gay of their all this and they it's like

1552
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 1: it's like my when I was a nanny, the mom

1553
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: of the kids say nanny, it always used to say,

1554
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: because I couldn't cook, but I had to cook for

1555
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 1: the kids. And this is great for you. You know,

1556
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna learn how to cook because you know, um,

1557
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: Andreas and my office who's gay. He always has every game, mangine,

1558
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: know how to cook, and so I so like Andrea's

1559
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: definitely is that kind of gay that maybe we're talking

1560
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,480
Speaker 1: about who would be at this resort, But like Andrea's

1561
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: definitely is someone who's on the app saying like, I

1562
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: have an amazing group of friends because he's after marriage. Yeah. Yeah,

1563
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: when you say you have an amazing group of friends

1564
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: you're after marriage, well it's it's your pointing also to

1565
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: the complicated nature of like the assimilated gay versus the

1566
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: radical queer or whatever, because you would think, oh, okay,

1567
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: if the two genders are assimilation not assimilation, you're like, oh,

1568
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: the masculine gays are the ones getting married. No, no, no, sweet,

1569
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: The masculine gaze have are getting nine loads into every

1570
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: hole at the party, while the feminine gays are getting

1571
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: married at city Hall and then working for the navy. Totally,

1572
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: But I would also add to that. I would also

1573
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: add to that, like the masculine gays in the feminine

1574
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 1: game like there are I do think there are celebrate

1575
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 1: celebrators of love on both the like mask and femends

1576
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: of the they're they're both fitting in in their own

1577
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 1: separate ways to this kind of like straight idea of

1578
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,799
Speaker 1: gay and they both want to get married and almost

1579
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 1: but like they always want to marry kind of each

1580
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: other on the way because then it can ease their brains,

1581
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: it can make sense to them or something. Yeah, when

1582
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: we say love is love, we mean that you can

1583
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: celebrate love, whether whether you're a feminine gay or a

1584
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: masculine game, as long as it's with like the opposite

1585
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: or something like. They still need some level of like

1586
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: of like hetero. I don't know, I don't know that.

1587
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the actual bass word, but it's like

1588
01:22:54,160 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: heteros the prefects formative. Yeah. Yeah, but it's funny because

1589
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: then you'll see on like grind your like mask. There's

1590
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,759
Speaker 1: like mask for mask culture, but like those those masks

1591
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: for masks I think aren't necessarily getting married to each other.

1592
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: Master for mask is interesting because on the one hand,

1593
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, it's toxic masculinity. On the other hand,

1594
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: what they actually want is the most gay thing possible,

1595
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: which is the manliest possible men fucking Yeah. Yeah, it's

1596
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: so strange. They're like, we need this to be same sex. Yeah,

1597
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: both physically and spiritually. Yeah, I mean we need spiritually

1598
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: to be the same sex. Yeah, it's so strange how

1599
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: everything is. Well, I think we can wrap it up

1600
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: there at life is crazy. It's so crazy how everything is.

1601
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: It's so crazy how everything is. But if you are married,

1602
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: we support you and we are so happy that you

1603
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: have found the one and we would love to tag

1604
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: you on Instagram. So please tag up ahead and tag

1605
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: you back. If you're getting married, please tag the three

1606
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: of us on Instagram so that we can tag you

1607
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: on our Instagram know, so that we can tag you

1608
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: in the comments of your own posts, tagging us. Then

1609
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: we'll just we'll just you'll tag us. You'll do a

1610
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: post celebrating your own love, and then you'll tag us

1611
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: in the post, and then we'll just comment at your

1612
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: own handle in the comments. Must tag us so we

1613
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: can then tag in the comments so we can tag

1614
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: you in you tag you in the comments of your

1615
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: own post, tagging us, celebrating at Bryan and at Amanda's love,

1616
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: ce c at tag and at yours at tagger and

1617
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: then we'll go ahead and just comment at you. We'll

1618
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: tag You'll be perfect. Wow, let's do our final segment,

1619
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: I think. I think we have to time um our.

1620
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 1: Finals segment is called shoutouts, and then we give a

1621
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: shout out anything that we are enjoying. Imagine it's two

1622
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 1: one and you're at TRL shouting out to your squad

1623
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: back home, anything that you like. Yeah, George, do you potentially,

1624
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: by any chance have one? You know what? Yeah, I

1625
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: actually have an anti shout out? Oh, go for it.

1626
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: What's up everybody out there? Everybody, everybody who I love

1627
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: and everybody who loves me, my incredible group of friends

1628
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: who are all married, monogamous, and Republican. I want to

1629
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to I guess kind of

1630
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: the concept of not feeling tied to having one pan

1631
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 1: or one pot recipes. I have noticed a real epidemic

1632
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 1: out there of recipes bragging about being only one pan

1633
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: and one pot, and I want to say, you have

1634
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 1: to embrace the diversity of your ingredients. You have to

1635
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: have the bravery to use multiple pans. And if you're

1636
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: making the pasta, just make the pasta in a pot

1637
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: and make the sauce in the pan. It doesn't have

1638
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: to be the same thing. You don't have to make

1639
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: the dry pasta in the sauce. You don't have to

1640
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: put something in the oven in a sheet pan that

1641
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: has both sausage and broccoli and you're cooking it in

1642
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: the same temperature. Let each ingredients speak for itself and

1643
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: stop trying to make things simple. Stop trying to make

1644
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: things life hacks. Stop trying to kind of you know,

1645
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 1: it's this hustle culture that we're all a part of,

1646
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, I have twenty minutes and in

1647
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: those twenty minutes, I have to make all three meals

1648
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: for the day and for the week, action and after meal,

1649
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 1: plant and put everything in tip where in those twenty

1650
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: minutes and it all has to happen in one pan

1651
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: that's then actually compostable and disposable. How about just cooking

1652
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: a meal with your family and relaxing and not trying

1653
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: to make everything handle all thing? Sweetie, Do you think

1654
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: that's kind of that it's kind of internalized. Celebrate love

1655
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 1: when you throw in with your family. I was like, oh, yeah,

1656
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: celebrating love with that. I do think that is a

1657
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: good anti shout out, I did. I do think it's too.

1658
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's like the boss girl culture of

1659
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: like I only have twenty minutes. Like it's like busy, busy, busy,

1660
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: gig economy whatever. But then it's also like this culture

1661
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: that is straight of like it. Also it also is

1662
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 1: like adulting is hard culture, Like what is a pot? Like,

1663
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I really I keep shoes in my oven, like like

1664
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: what our taxays like when they release those pots that

1665
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: are like all in one where it's like this is

1666
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: it comes with like five different things you can put

1667
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 1: on top of it and you can like fry and

1668
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 1: deep fry and poach, and you're like, it's okay, just

1669
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: have three pots by three pots totally. I just want

1670
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: to say that, like, washing dishes is really hard and

1671
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 1: my hands get really really dry and um, so it's

1672
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: really helpful to have a one pot to clean. I mean,

1673
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 1: I guess Sam. It's also helpful to just wear the

1674
01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 1: same one orange jumpsuit every day. That would certainly me

1675
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: getting dressed easier. But we are people with needs and individuality. Again,

1676
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: it is not interesting that I'm made of water. It

1677
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: is interesting that I am a scorpio. We are different

1678
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: people with needs of individuality. We will not wear the

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01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 1: orange suit, Sam, We will use Sam. Love isn't love.

1680
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 1: Love isn't love um. Okay um, yeah, George, you inspired

1681
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: a food one for me as well. What's up, lovelyse Um.

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01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: I just want to give a huge shout out to

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01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: making having a dinner of exclusively fried food. I went

1684
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: to Julius Gay Bar last night around six pm and

1685
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 1: I had monz Realistics, onion rings and chicken tenders, and

1686
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I felt satiated, I felt happy, and

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01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: most of all, I felt healthy. Media always tries to

1688
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: tell you that a meal of exclusively fried foods is

1689
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: bad for you. Well, then why do I feel so

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01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 1: good today? Huh, sweetie? I love fried foods because guess

1691
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: what you can get anything fried? If a vegetables fried,

1692
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: it's good for you. And chicken tenders fried, yeah, that's

1693
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: actually good for you as well, because it's protein. It's

1694
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: lean protein, because it's chicken, I think. And I Monzarella sticks,

1695
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 1: that's dessert, and I was actually we ordered Montarellow sticks

1696
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: and then we ordered another Monzarella sticks because we were

1697
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: still a little bit hungry, and I could not regret

1698
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: anything less. I felt much better than if I had

1699
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: had potentially a salad. And because I had onion rings

1700
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 1: and that's vegetable meal of fried food. Meal. Fried food

1701
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: is good for you. It's easy, and it's cheap, and

1702
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: it is um egalitarian and I love that. I love equality,

1703
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: and I love a meal entirely made of fried food.

1704
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 1: XO xo Sam. God. Yeah, it's like it's like sampler

1705
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: sampler culture. And I'll tell you a few meals are

1706
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 1: as enjoyable as getting food at Julius. It is so fun.

1707
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it just it's absolutely beautiful. And I've

1708
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: never felt more a part of the l g B

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01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: t Q plus community in New York City than when

1710
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: I am getting Motz Realistics of Julius Bar. Yes, I've

1711
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: never really been to Julius, like I've never pat next

1712
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 1: time we go, we're getting We're going and we're getting

1713
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: some damn sticks. Baby to night is the night to

1714
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Night is night? Um Okay, this is like this is

1715
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 1: the only thing I could be thinking of. Is anything

1716
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: I could be thinking of that it's like that I've

1717
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: been thinking about. I'm like, oh, this is like so good,

1718
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: and I like, I wish I could like talk more

1719
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: about how good it is. But it's not like new

1720
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: or interesting really and it's not like I say, don't

1721
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: judge yourself and just go for it. Yeah, yeah, okay, hi, um,

1722
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, xl XLF forever love you girls. I

1723
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: love seniors oh nine, I love you guys, and I

1724
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 1: love Seniors out too as well. And I just want

1725
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 1: to say, um shout out to the music from the

1726
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: Buffy Driven Her Slayer season sixth episode once More with

1727
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 1: feeling walking the Fire. Um, you are iconic. Um, I've

1728
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:15,719
Speaker 1: got a feeling. Oh my god, it's so incredible. And

1729
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: um yeah wait there's one more um going through the motions.

1730
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so fun, so amazing. So we'll

1731
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: signed by of course SMG. Love you girl, okay, x goodbye.

1732
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: Is that the musical episode? Yeah? Oh got it. That

1733
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: touched the fire and it freeze. We actually, like, I

1734
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: look into attendance, blah, why can't I feel mask insured

1735
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: crack and be here? I want the fire back powerful.

1736
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 1: This is our musical episode. Actually, because she was dead.

1737
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: Because she was dead, she was dead in a coffin,

1738
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: and her friends bore her back to life as a

1739
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: as like a nice thing. But she's actually like why

1740
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 1: did you do that? Actually was so glad to be dead,

1741
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,839
Speaker 1: and then she was like, this is so it's actually iconic.

1742
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: The plant of that episode is that, like she finally

1743
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 1: tells her friends, like, it's actually annoying that you bought

1744
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 1: me back to life because I was like actually like

1745
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: loving being dead. It was some crad Well that sounds

1746
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 1: a dark message. No, no, no, no, because it can no. No,

1747
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: it's celebrating love, but celebrating dead. Yeah, that's not okay

1748
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,919
Speaker 1: with me because then there's also this bridge towards any episode.

1749
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 1: But she goes, have I think I wasn't her no pain,

1750
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 1: no doubt. Unually you pulled me out of it. So

1751
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 1: that's my refrain. I live in hell because I've been

1752
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: expelled from Evan. But it's because, you know, Buffy is

1753
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: about this girl who is trying so desperately to hold

1754
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 1: the weight of the world on her shoulder as well

1755
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: still being eighteen girl with the needs and wants of

1756
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: eighteen girl. Sure, it gets to be so much, and

1757
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 1: she's so siloed and so isolated by her and she