1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Michael Varry Show is on the air. A number of 3 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: you reached out during the worst of the cold weather 4 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: and concerns over the roads and the infrastructure, noting that 5 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: you hadn't seen the Comandante, the corn Roll Comandante had 6 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: had gone missing, and that will remind you this is 7 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: not the first time the Corner Roll Comandante has gone missing. 8 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: The last time she went missing, we had to dedicate 9 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: a song for it from Chance McLean. Where are you? 10 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: They say, left brom Texas, Blena Lena Boom. 11 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Where are you? 12 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: It's always happened, bet with progresses every time a feeling 13 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: the rubber shades excuse they have depends off breakdown high 14 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: behind the guard of a victim card to avoid the 15 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: legal shakedown, and it's intainas in between a legal rock 16 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: can up. The are hard graves here going free and 17 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: Lena you can try. 18 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: To ride behind and Reacciata. 19 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: States, We'll wait recouper rate Blena Lena Boom, get the 20 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: betters the love dear an be rested. 21 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: Theres as soon as. 22 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: You get back, gonna hear the black over coast the 23 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: short arrested. 24 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: I saw a report from Boston News federal agents conducting 25 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: raids and detaining individuals and apartments across Boston, a designated 26 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: sanctuary city. What's going to be interesting is public opinion 27 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: is going to take something of a wait and see approach. 28 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: While people want deportations, we've got a real serious what 29 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 1: I have referred to as the nice neighbor problem. Everybody's 30 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: been told to be nice. Mommy told you to be nice. 31 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: The woman teacher at school said to be nice. This 32 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: is why kids are prescribed all of these lower level, 33 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: otherwise hardcore drugs to keep them calm. Little boys, not girls. 34 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Little boys because we don't want little boys to be 35 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: little boys. We don't want them fidgeting, wrastling, climbing stuff. 36 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: We'd rather they be zombies, because that's what women want 37 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: boys to be. They don't want boys growing into men. 38 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: They want boys to be just like little girls. Play 39 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: with the dolls over there and be soft and be quiet. 40 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Little boys are different than little girls. There is no 41 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: doubt little boys are different than little girls. And so 42 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: you have this situation where the nice neighbor problem is. 43 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: You have a lot of people who've been raised this 44 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: is the boy who he's got his girlfriend. And on Saturdays, 45 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: you see these guys on Saturday, they're at bed bath 46 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: and beyond counting the thread count or comparing the thread 47 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: count in the sheets, and they have absolutely they have 48 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: absolutely fallen prey to the bridle registry and how many 49 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: items are going to be on there? And look at me, 50 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: and they've lost any testosterone that they otherwise would have had. 51 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: And they're still in their twenties. So these people are 52 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: perfect little corporate worker bees. These are people who learn 53 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: what word you can use and what word you can't. 54 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: They learn proper Twitter protocol, what to post and whatnot, 55 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: what to say. Always apologize for your white hood. Always 56 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: express the privilege that you have enjoyed, the guilt you 57 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: have over it. Be willing to promote other people who 58 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: don't look like you over the other person who looks 59 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: like you, because he still want to take care of yourself. 60 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: Be willing to talk about how racist your parents and 61 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: god knows your grandparents, Oh grandmother she was, you wouldn't believe, yes, 62 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: But here i am. Here, I am, I have persevered 63 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: beyond that. Look at me, I have arrived today. I'm 64 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: not like those people. This is what Obama preyed upon 65 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: when white kids would go home from college at Thanksgiving 66 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: to lecture their parents and grandparents to withhold the affection 67 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: that they live off of they live for unless they 68 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: voted the way you wanted them to vote. So what's 69 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: going to happen is as these deportations begin, the media 70 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: is not going to cover the fact that this guy 71 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: was pulled out and he's killed ten people, and this 72 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: guy was pulled out. He's a sex trafficker of eight 73 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: year old girls. And this guy was pulled out and 74 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: five people have died as a result of his Ventanyl 75 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: Street gang. No, none of that's going to be pointed out. 76 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: What's going to be pointed out is the lady who's 77 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: going to be crying that she just wants to live 78 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: here and she went and we're going to be told 79 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: that these people came here for asylum. You can't go home, 80 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: it's too dangerous. They can't go home. Well that's odd 81 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: because they went home at Christmas, and they went home 82 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: for a month the Christmas before you came here and 83 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: presented yourself and said, hey, I need all the free 84 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: stuff I was promised. I'm seeking asylum. I'm scared of 85 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: where I came from, and so all the goodies were 86 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: handed to them, and they would dutifully vote Democrat and 87 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: march in the protest, and then come Christmas they go 88 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: back and visit their relatives. What that's odd? I thought 89 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: that was the place you were fleeing because you were 90 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: being persecuted for being what Hispanic? Because there's a lot 91 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: of other ones there well, Catholic. What exactly were you 92 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: being persecuted for and what exactly are you running from? 93 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Truth is, everybody knows somebody that you've met over the years. 94 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: It's a very nice person that came to this country illegally, right, 95 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: So what do you do? You make laws over the 96 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: long term that accommodate people who are checked, verified and 97 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: allowed to come here on work visus for a period 98 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: of time, and after that period of time, a certain 99 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: number will be given an opportunity of a pathway to citizenship. 100 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: But we can't have that system now because the system 101 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: has been so overwhelmed by people just crashing the gates 102 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: like Black Friday, that here we are, here, we are 103 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: with a broken system. The answer to that system is 104 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: not to go back now to what we should have 105 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: done on the front end and simply allow murderers, rapists, 106 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: traffickers to remain here. The American people and the polls 107 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: are showing ce Ann showed one yesterday, the American people, 108 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: including Democrats, do not want the illegal aliens here. They 109 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: do want the importations. But the Democrats and the media 110 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: and some of the bureaucrats who are part of all 111 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: this are going to do everything they can to change 112 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: public opinion that that time is now. 113 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: It's a change. 114 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: My wisdom. 115 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 4: Can tell me. 116 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: We had less lonely boys at the RCC, and I 117 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: think most people, I think a lot of people. Certainly 118 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: everybody that night knew this song, but maybe Senorita, maybe 119 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: maybe Senorita, maybe another for most people now there'll be 120 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: that it'll be a woman who I know all their songs. Michael, 121 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: you're wrong, Okay, great, but our folks didn't know their music, 122 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: just this song. So I can't remember who it was. 123 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: But somebody I know, Doug Trokin' Broad, Tim Holt, somebody 124 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: who was a very active member, finds out that their 125 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: gig somewhere up north wasn't Docy Dough, but it was 126 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: it might have been Doc Dough. Whatever happened that their 127 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: gig had been canceled the last minute, like the last 128 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: last minute, or Tuesday for a Friday night prins and bands. 129 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: What bands draw is often more or less than you 130 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: would expect, but there's something of a science to it 131 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: because what happens is a band that goes on tour 132 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: for any length of time, you establish a price. It 133 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: becomes kind of a market for that band. And so 134 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: there are bands that you would think should be a 135 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars band, but they're ten. And that's 136 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: because while people like their music, people don't buy tickets 137 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: to go see them. And then there are bands that 138 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: you would think would be a five thousand dollars band 139 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: because they never had any big hits, but people love them, 140 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: so they become a twenty five thousand dollars band. But 141 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: my challenge was we weren't really an open to the 142 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: public per se, marketed to the public kind of place. 143 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: We were. We had our members and I had to 144 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: find things. I had to program for what our members 145 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: would like. And it taught me a lot about how 146 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: wrong you can be about what a band is quote worth. 147 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: A band's worth is not how good their music is. 148 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: A band's worth is their ability to draw people out 149 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: to come and see them. So those Lonely Boys, while 150 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: they didn't have a ton of hits, they have something 151 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: of a follow and then Grateful Dead would be the 152 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: best example of a band. They only had the one 153 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: number one hit and that made their fans mad because 154 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: they didn't want the public to know about them. So 155 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: here was a band who kind of became famous for 156 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: having this cult following. That's how a lot of people 157 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: outside the cult knew of the Grateful Dead was because 158 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: of the dead Heads. They became their marketing tool and 159 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: the Volkswagen vans and driving around the country following them 160 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: and the tie die and all that. So they could 161 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: command most any amount of money because you knew, especially 162 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: in a festival setting, you knew they were going to 163 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: be a massive draw. And then you would have other 164 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: bands they would have plenty of hits, but nobody really 165 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: wants to go see them. Not a knock on them. 166 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: It's just a difference. So anyway, Los Lonely Boys was 167 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: something like it was a lot. It was like thirty 168 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: five thousand. Well, there were big draws I could get 169 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: for thirty five thousand, and Low Lonely Boys wasn't going 170 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: to be one of them, but the show had canceled. 171 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: They had looked into us. They liked what we stood for, 172 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: they liked the way we ran the RCC. We always 173 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: treated the artists first class. We paid them before they arrived. 174 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: Nobody in the business did that. A lot of them 175 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: would finish their show and then they would have to 176 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: wait that night. They'd be in the bus and their 177 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: manager would be in there and they'd be counting out 178 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: the cash to pay them. They would argue over, well, 179 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: y'all had four waters and at twenty dollars a piece, 180 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: im a knock off eighty dollars, just really abusing the bands, 181 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: and we treated them like kings under the premise that 182 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: they would want to come back. So I think we 183 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: got them for something like five grand, which was an 184 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: absolute steal. But it also meant we had no time 185 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: to market. So my answer to that was, well, I 186 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: don't want to have ten people at this show, so 187 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: let's make the tickets insanely cheap, you know, two dollars 188 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: or whatever it was. And so because there's no value 189 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: to a free ticket. So I don't remember what we 190 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: did for a lot of our members. I think we 191 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 1: did it free. I don't the numbers escaped me, but 192 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we got them for five thousand, which 193 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: the bar owners and concert venue owners listening are going 194 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: to No way you got them for five We did 195 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: because it was a last minute deal and we agreed 196 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: to take them, and they were routing through they played 197 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: that song. They were probably four or five songs in, 198 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: and there's an energy when the band first comes loose 199 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: Lonely Boys as a band that a lot of people 200 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: have heard of, but they don't know what their songs are. 201 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, and everybody. The thing about concerts, it took 202 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: me a while to understands there are very few people's. 203 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: The same thing is true of NFL games. There are 204 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: very few people who were there because they want to 205 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: watch the quarterback try to connect with the wide receiver 206 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: while the defensive back stops him. There are a lot 207 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: of people who were there because for weeks before that 208 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: they can post on social media where they're going. They 209 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: go get their outfit for it. Here's the day of 210 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: oh we're going to go. You know, well, you know 211 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: I can't do it on Sunday because I'm going to 212 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: the game. We got tickets to the game. My husband 213 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: got tickets a game, and I've got this dress I'm 214 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna wear. So a lot of it is the excitement 215 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: over the event, and there's nothing wrong with that. So 216 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: there were all these people who came for low lonely 217 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: boys in this insanely cheap ticket, and we promoted it 218 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: pretty hard within our email blast, and I probably mentioned 219 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: it on there thirty five times or so. The night comes, 220 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: they get on stage. Our people don't know their songs, 221 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: but you could not help but love these guys because 222 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: they were so classy and by which I mean they 223 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: were genuinely concerned with entertaining the audience. And they realized, 224 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: you know what, these aren't our typical fans. A little 225 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: bit older, it a bit whiter, because they're more of 226 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: a Chicano audience. So not Spanish language speaking primarily, but 227 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: you know people from the valley that live in this 228 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: country and speak English, and but their last name happens 229 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: to be Peine or Rodriguez. No, not Roebliss. You do 230 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: not qualify you the least you always try that. Anyway, 231 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: they start singing Heaven about five songs in and our 232 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: crowd realized, oh, I know this song. I swear they 233 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: had to do a twenty minute condition of the song 234 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: like they just like they gave a concert of that 235 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: song and nobody minded and it was just awesome. They 236 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: hung around afterwards, they signed every autograph, so low songios. 237 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: It comes up from me, Larry Derker, to talk about 238 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: Billy Wagner coming up drum and whole song. The son 239 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: came up today yesterday we celebrate the announcement the night before. 240 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: Billy Wagner was the ninth player to ever wear an 241 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Astro's jersey at some point in his career, played over 242 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: half of his career in Houston to make the coveted 243 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. His coach for most of those years 244 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: while he was in Houston was mister Astro Larry Derker, 245 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: and he's our guest coach. Welcome to the program. 246 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, it's a good program. Thank you. 247 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: What a nice thing to say. What was your reaction 248 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: to the news that Billy Wagner, in his tenth and 249 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: final year of eligibility made. 250 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: It relief. 251 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: Which is a funny word for her, not a funny 252 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: but a word. 253 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: That goes along with relief pitchers. But it was his 254 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: last chance to make it without going to the Veterans Committee, 255 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: and I felt that he was deserving of going in 256 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: on the first round, but I knew that was doubtful 257 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: and the way things have gone in the past. But 258 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: after that, I think, other than Marianna Rivera, I don't 259 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: think there's another closer in the history of baseball that's 260 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: better than Billy Wagner. And I just couldn't believe the 261 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: year after year they passed him by. 262 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: Why do you think that was? Was it playing in Houston. 263 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit more difficult to get 264 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: attention playing in Houston, But I'm not sure it was 265 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: that because there are other relievers that I think belonged 266 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: there that are not in there. And you know, I 267 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: hesitate to say this. It's like the Kansas City complaining 268 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: about the referrera of people complaining that the Chiefs get 269 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: a break from the referees. But I think relief pitchers 270 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: in general have more trouble cracking the Hall of Fame 271 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: criteria than any other position, the. 272 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: Punter of baseball. It's a good point, very interesting point. 273 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on Billy Wagner as a coach 274 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 1: of him as a player. 275 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: Well, he was terrific. You know, he didn't complain about anything. 276 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: He always wanted to pitch. He wanted to pitch in 277 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: some games that I didn't want him to pitch in 278 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: because he'd been throwing too much in previous games. And 279 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: there was, you know, one a couple of incidents where 280 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: I made a mistake and got him in a game 281 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: when I shouldn't have. But in general, what you like 282 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: to have is a guy that throws near one hundred 283 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: miles an hour and is ready to go every day 284 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: and able to throw strikes. And that's what he was. 285 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: You were in the broadcast booth when he became an astro, 286 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: and then Collins is out. You're in visu and Bagwell 287 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: want you in. You're a player's coach. You're a real player. 288 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: You understand what they do when you went from the 289 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: broadcast booth to the dugout as a coach. How was 290 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: he different as a player than you had expected? 291 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: Actually he was about what I expected. He wasn't as 292 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: good as he would become, because it's almost assured that 293 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 3: if you have a picture that throws that hard, that 294 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: when they're young, they'll have some control problems. I may 295 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: have had a couple of games myself where the ball 296 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: just just felt like I was jumping out of my 297 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 3: hand and I couldn't get it down. I couldn't I 298 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: couldn't throw a strike. And so Billy and Nolan and 299 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: those guys they. 300 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 4: Throw like that every game, and so it takes a 301 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 4: while to zero in. 302 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: And as he did, he kept getting better and better. 303 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: And one side comment that I would make is that 304 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 3: when I was a player and I was on the 305 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: mound and we were getting to the benninger, I would 306 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 3: look down to open and I think I'd better try 307 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 3: to finish this game. If Billy had been warming up, 308 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have had that thought. So I probably would 309 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 3: have pitched fewer Complay games, and I probably would have 310 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: lasted a couple more years. But you know, that's that's 311 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: just speculation. 312 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: What an amazing run you've had. I know we're talking 313 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: about Billy Wagner, but you're signed by the Colts at 314 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: seventeen in a bidding war. You pitch your first game 315 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: on your eighteenth birthday. You strike out Willie Mays. That's 316 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: what nineteen sixty three, and we're talking about you year 317 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: before sixty four, we're talking about you coaching a guy 318 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: almost forty years later who twenty years after that makes 319 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. That's a pretty good ven diagram 320 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: of Larry Derker's career in life as a ballplayer, broadcaster, coach, 321 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: and now just a guy that loves life and offers 322 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: commentary over the course of sixty years. You're a lucky man. 323 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: Yes, I have really been blessed, Michael. It's like one thing, 324 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: one door closed, and I prove a lot of innings 325 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: in my twenties, and I was finished pitching when I 326 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 3: was thirty. I wish I'd been able to go on 327 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: a little bit longer. 328 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 4: But it seems like as soon as I got off 329 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: the mound, I got into. 330 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: The broadcast mooove. And I love that I enjoyed it 331 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: more in those first few years than I did the 332 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 3: last few years of pitching, because the last few years 333 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 3: pitching was a challenge just because of arm injuries. And 334 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: so then Drayton McClain, who always liked to do things 335 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: that were unconventional, talked to Tal Smith about the possibility 336 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 3: that I could manage the team, even though I've never 337 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: even coached my son's little league team. Anyway, they interviewed 338 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: me and the. 339 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: Next day I became the Astros manager, and that was 340 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 4: hardest job. 341 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 3: There's a really hard job. One thing that I recall 342 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: and made a few notes as you have, I can 343 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: see you prepared, is that when we had a horrible 344 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 3: season in two thousand, the first year at the new ballpark, 345 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: and that new. 346 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 4: Ballpark was n Ron Field, and what was going on 347 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 4: that year with Enron is. 348 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: That they were about to implode. And so when I 349 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 3: think about how much trouble you had that first year 350 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 3: at Enron, I think, what is there at least part 351 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: of the blame. 352 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: Anyway, And I guess the question as to how you did. 353 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: Four of your first five years the team finished in 354 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: first place, So I'd say you had a pretty good 355 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: run as coach. 356 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: Coach. Oh yeah, yes I did. But in that year 357 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: two thousand, even Billy Wagner struggled and we were. 358 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: Maybe in May, maybe thirty forty games. 359 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: Into the season in last place, and he came in 360 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: to try to save a game against the Reds. At 361 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 3: that point, Ken Griffy Judy was playing for the Reds 362 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: and he hit a home run off Billy, and he 363 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: went from getting saved to getting a loss. And so 364 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: I always had my office taking questions after the game, 365 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: and somebody asked me what was wrong with Wagner, because 366 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: this wasn't the only problem he'd had, and so I said, well, 367 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: as far as I can tell, there's not anything wrong 368 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: with him. It's just that they seemed to be able 369 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: to square up his fastball and when usually they went 370 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: under it or fall it back. But when I called 371 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 3: down to the bullpen, he's ready in three minutes, just 372 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 3: like he always was. And then when it comes into 373 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 3: the game, the radar gun says he's. 374 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: Strowing just as hard as he ever had, And so 375 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 4: I said. 376 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: I don't know why they're able to to make good 377 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: contact against him. It doesn't make any sense. And so 378 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: they immediately run over to Billy. 379 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: And they and one of them and I won't cast 380 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: any blak because I don't know who did it. 381 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: But one of the members of the media said, Billy 382 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: Derker says, you lost your fastball. 383 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: Well he thinks it's that easy. 384 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: Let him come out and try it, you know, And 385 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: that's that's what I had. To go sit down with 386 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: him and just have a you know, his emotions got 387 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: back to normal and he was willing to talk about 388 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: all this, and I said, you just have to watch 389 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: the media because they're going to try to get you 390 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: to say things. 391 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: Like that, and what I really, we love you, thank 392 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: you for being available, my friend. I never told you 393 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: the first time I met Mary so end Run was 394 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: maybe in its second year. It was early on, and 395 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: they had a little bar right there on Texas and 396 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: I think it was called Drkers or so Larry Durkers 397 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: or I don't remember. It was a kind of a 398 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: Hawaiian themed bar. Remember, he always wore a Hawaiian shirt. 399 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: He still does. And so I was down there and 400 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: I went into the bathroom and he would do a 401 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: broadcast from down there. And I go into the bathroom 402 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: and I'm standing at the urinal and some guy walks 403 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: in and says something about did you listen? Are you 404 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: listening to the show? And I said, yeah. I love 405 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: Larry Darker and I love that he's always wearing a 406 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: Hawaiian shirt. I think it's so cool. So fortunately, you know, 407 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: it's just as easy to talk bad about somebody and 408 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: not mean anything of it. You just it's kind of 409 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: you're in a mood. And I'm going on and on 410 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: about Larry Darker and it's very rare for me to 411 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: wash my hands after I pee because and I know 412 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: that grossest woman out study after study has told the 413 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: world that they refuse to understand it. The pepe's not dirty, 414 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: your hands are filthy, So you really ought to wash 415 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: your hands before you touch your pep instead of after 416 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: you do it. But there's this old idea that you know, 417 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: man's peepe is so dirty. It's clean, it's not nothing's 418 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: getting to it. Well, I'm washing my hands. And again 419 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: what makes this story so weird is I never wash 420 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: my hands, but I'm washing my hands and out of 421 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: the stall the second stall over, I believe there were 422 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: two stalls with the forestall. I didn't realize there was 423 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: somebody in there. And some dude walks out. Drker's tall. 424 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: Dirk is a big dude. Dude walks out and he's 425 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: wearing his Hawaiian shirt and he's got a smile from 426 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: ear to ear and I, oh, oh, he goes well, 427 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: I thank you, and I said, oh, it's a good thing. 428 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: I said nice things, huh, And I got a laugh 429 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: and I walked out. And it was one of those 430 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: who that could have been a very awkward if I'd 431 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: have said that's stupid Hawaiian shired it, but instead I went, yeah, 432 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: it was. That was my first time to meet him. 433 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: True story true story. June eleventh, two thousand and three, 434 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: a fascinating thing happened. Roy Oswald pitched one inning. He 435 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: had an injury. Pete Munroe would come in for two 436 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: and two thirds. Kirk Sarluis would come in for one 437 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: in one third inning, Brad Ledge would pitch two perfect innings. 438 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: Oktavio Dotell, Well his name I hadn't heard in a 439 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: long time, pitched one inning and Billy Wagner comes in 440 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: for an inning for the save. Is a very rare 441 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: occasion in Major League Baseball that you get a combined 442 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: no hitter, that is, a sixth pitcher no hitter. The 443 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: Astros would score more runs than the Yankees had base 444 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: runners six It was the franchise's largest margin of victory 445 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: in a no hitter. Since Oswald didn't complete enough innings 446 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: to qualify for the win, the official scorekeeper named Brad 447 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: Lidge the winning pitcher after tossing two perfect innings. Here 448 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: is that call. 449 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 5: The Yankees are three outs away from being no hit 450 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 5: for the first time in forty five. 451 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: Years Lydge Dotel and Wagner the two too. He he 452 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: struck them out swinging fastball away. It's almost impossible to 453 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: catch up with a fastball away from Wagner. It'll be 454 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: a one two to travel. Hey struck amout swinging ball, 455 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: flew them away at one hundred miles an hour. The 456 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: last man between the hes had a Houston no hitter. 457 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 5: Everybody is standing insuring, and I'm just not entirely sure 458 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 5: for whom or for what, you know, because they're here 459 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 5: on an occasion, an event as a no hitter. Lofty 460 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 5: to Lofty, the pits has grouted the first backball fields 461 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 5: flips to Wagner in time a no hitter, A no 462 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 5: hitter for the Houston Astros, A combined no hitter from 463 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 5: roy Oswalt, Peter Monroe, Kirk Sarlous, Brad Lynch, Octavio Dotel, 464 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 5: and Billy Wagner. 465 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: Baseball broadcasters are a breed apart, aren't they. Vin's Cully, 466 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: Joe Garagelo. I mean, those guys would make the game 467 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: come to life. Harry Carey with his drunk ass. I 468 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: mean Joe Buck's dad, which was the reason Joe Buck 469 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: got into the business or was given such because his 470 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: dad was so well respected. Those guys man they painted 471 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: a picture. Baseball was the sport to listen to on 472 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: the radio, and so many times did we. When I 473 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: first came in to run the AM stations for what 474 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: was then Clear Channel, we had nine to fifty which 475 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: we made into Radio Mojo, which is supposed to be 476 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: kind of a manly radio because you had to cross 477 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: program against Russi and Sean, so you didn't want to 478 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: and the news heritage news station. You didn't want to 479 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: do something that was just going to pull away the 480 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: same listeners. So the idea was to make it kind 481 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: of a cross between the Buzz and a talk radio show. 482 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: So that's what we did with Radio Mojo, another of 483 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: my brilliant ideas that didn't last. So there was nine 484 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: to fifty AM, there was seven ninety AM, which nine 485 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: to fifty was KPRC, which was Port Rail and Cotton 486 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: old station, heritage station. Then seven ninety am was KBME, 487 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: which was Best Music Ever, which was an oldies station 488 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: many many years before. But of course we had flipped 489 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: it to a sports station. It was a sports animal 490 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: when I took over, and I thought that was the 491 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: dumbest name ever. So we just called it sports radio 492 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: because that's what it was. And then of course the 493 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: Heritage station, the heritage blowtorch fifty dollars, fifty thousand watt blowtorch, 494 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: maybe fifty thousand dollars too. KTRH come to the right hotel. 495 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: I thought, hey, we should put more talk programming on 496 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: because you know, we could move the astros over and 497 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: the station would make a lot more money if we 498 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: maybe did a Rush rerun. You know, there's a there's 499 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: an endless appetite for Rush. What if we look at 500 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: doing Rush? So I go to Eddie Martinez and I said, hey, 501 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: let's move the astros over to the sports station. That's 502 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: where it belongs. And very wisely, he said, oh no, no, no, 503 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: there would be a riot. We took the astros off 504 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: of KTRH. That's that is a relationship, that is part 505 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: of our identity. And I didn't realize to what extent 506 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: that was true, but it is. You know, in those days, 507 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: you thought of k t r H as news, Rush, 508 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: Hannity Talk and the astros and weather and and uh 509 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: garden line on the weekend that and to a large extent, 510 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: it's still part of that whole. You know, there's still 511 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: a lot of our listeners for the kids of people 512 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: grew up on Dewey and and you know those folks 513 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: going back to Mylow Hamilton and and Dirk and Gene 514 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: Nelson and all. You know that whole history. Paul Harvey 515 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: five forty five and seven forty five, that's quite a heritage, 516 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: quite a heritage. We're lucky, Vermont we get to be 517 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: on this. It was a good Dirker story. I might 518 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: have taken too long to tell it. 519 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: High left them