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Speaker 3: It shall be done, folks. Twelve more sleeps, Florida Boxing

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Speaker 3: Commissions on board. It's Monday, April twenty seventh. Good to

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Speaker 3: have you with us, Episode two forty seven of this year,

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Speaker 3: Anak and Florian podcast starring the Great Kenny Florian. But

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Speaker 3: he got a new television light in your studio today,

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Speaker 3: You're looking good.

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Speaker 4: It's that special light now. I was like yeah on

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Speaker 5: Now you can see my face for better or worse.

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Speaker 3: So my son smashed his head on the pavement like

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Speaker 3: day three of quarantine, and he waited till day forty

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Speaker 3: two to smash his head on the tile floor this morning. No,

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Speaker 3: I know, the forehead, in the front of the head

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Speaker 3: is like the hardest part of the head, right, But like,

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Speaker 3: this can't be good for these kids to be doing this,

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Speaker 3: you know, just smashing their head on tile, probably falling

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Speaker 3: It didn't break the skin last time it broke the skin.

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Speaker 3: so that means running on the pavement and going head

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Speaker 3: first against doctor's orders. Guy's got to learn somewhere, and

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Speaker 3: It's just I don't know, I don't know little maniac,

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Speaker 3: all right, So a lot coming up on the show today.

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Speaker 3: We are going to talk to Michael Chandler, one of

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Speaker 3: the best pound for pound fighters in the world and

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Speaker 3: for a long time. Also Ken Flow's right hand man,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Hall, UFC featherweight contender number fourteen in the world

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Speaker 3: we'll catch up with Ryan Hall. Also long going of course,

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Speaker 3: Since we were last on the air, it was announced

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Speaker 2: Of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would agree with you on the timeline.

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Speaker 3: Right now from Las Vegas, Kenny Tony ferguson the minus

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Speaker 5: So that's just a hard one to gamble on.

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Speaker 4: Regardless, you know, I think it does make sense that

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of question marks. And for Dominic Cruz,

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Speaker 4: But Dominic Cruz and his intelligence and his approach to

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Speaker 4: Just great match all the way around.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up Sahudo's shoulder surgery because it

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Speaker 3: I would also submit to the people that want to

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Speaker 3: Know that I believe that al Jamaine Sterling is the

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like he needed all of these circumstances

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Speaker 4: And that's what it comes down to you, right First

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Speaker 3: This is this is an all some fight, and we

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Speaker 3: don't know what the internal discussions were, and you bring

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Speaker 3: Jamaine Sterling was a guy who was considered, but Henry

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Speaker 3: But looks like Michael Chandler is ready and he's one

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Speaker 3: all right now? With us in man, are we happy

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Speaker 3: to have him? This is long overdue. He's one of

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Speaker 3: three time lightweight champion, I said, friend of the show.

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Speaker 7: What's up, buddy, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just living the dream man, living that quarantine life.

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Speaker 3: So anytime that I've seen you in passing over the years,

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Speaker 3: So I guess I asked this question with all the

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Speaker 3: respect befitting a Hall of Fame martial artists, But would

434
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Speaker 3: you be satisfied feed up in retirement if you didn't

435
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Speaker 3: scratch that UFC itch or at the very least have

436
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Speaker 3: some of those fights in matchups that I know you've

437
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Speaker 3: fantasized about at times over the years.

438
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can't. You know, you can't be

439
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Speaker 2: a fighter and not look at every single guy in

440
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Speaker 2: that in that top ten, look at every single guy,

441
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Speaker 2: every single guy, even if you know that they are

442
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Speaker 2: the flavor of the week, you still think, man, I

443
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Speaker 2: wish I could step into the casion, dude, you know,

444
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Speaker 2: And you see it so much these days. Guys who

445
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Speaker 2: guys who haven't necessarily been perennial top tens for any

446
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Speaker 2: substantial amount of time, all of a sudden become a

447
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 2: flash in the pan and they're a huge name for

448
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Speaker 2: a second. And this sport is very much entertainment and

449
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 2: very much athletics, and I think for me, I've always

450
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Speaker 2: looked at it like athletics, and I'm you know, I

451
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Speaker 2: think I put on phenomenal shows when I step into

452
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Speaker 2: the cage, win loser, draw. I've met had some had

453
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Speaker 2: some losses that we're still probably more entertaining than if

454
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Speaker 2: I would have won. And I've had some some interesting

455
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Speaker 2: stuff happening inside the cage. And my career has constantly

456
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Speaker 2: been ups and downs and coming back. But you know,

457
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Speaker 2: for me, it's always been about stepping inside the cage

458
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Speaker 2: and and outperforming my previous self and breaking the chains

459
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Speaker 2: of of that that small guy from that small town

460
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Speaker 2: who was taught to do small things. And I've I've

461
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 2: continued to build on the you know, the the experience

462
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Speaker 2: and the and the and the gifts that I've been

463
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Speaker 2: give and I have. I've gone through I think different

464
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Speaker 2: little plateaus in my career where you know, at there's

465
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Speaker 2: I can't I'm not gonna lie and say there's not

466
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Speaker 2: a day that goes by sometimes that where I'm just

467
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Speaker 2: wish I could scratch that itch. But then also you

468
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Speaker 2: look at it, there's so many different pieces of the

469
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Speaker 2: puzzle that you guys, you guys know more than even

470
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Speaker 2: the fans that are listening right now. You know, both

471
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Speaker 2: as as a fighter as well as a guy who's

472
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Speaker 2: intertwined in the sport and has these constant, constant conversations

473
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Speaker 2: with with fighters at times. So from a competition standpoint, yeah,

474
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Speaker 2: from the from the basis of the perception of the

475
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Speaker 2: media and the analysts and the guys who say, hey,

476
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Speaker 2: these guys are the top top guys in the world,

477
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Speaker 2: and this guy may never be if he doesn't fight

478
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Speaker 2: X Y and Z. But those those X Y and

479
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 2: Z s, those guys are changing every single year. You know,

480
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 2: just two years ago, whenever I signed my last deal

481
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Speaker 2: with Bellatur, the landscape looked a lot different. Now Here

482
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Speaker 2: we are twenty two months later, and the landscape has

483
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Speaker 2: changed so much more. And guys, all those guys who

484
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Speaker 2: were up there are still up there, but there's new

485
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Speaker 2: guys that are coming in. And the age of all

486
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Speaker 2: these guys in the and how long these guys are

487
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: having these tenures inside of mixed martial arts is getting

488
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: longer and longer, and the stakes are getting higher and

489
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: higher and bigger and bigger, bigger, And you look at

490
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Speaker 2: what Bellator's doing. Belotor is growing like crazy.

491
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Speaker 6: You know.

492
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Speaker 2: We just did a huge press conference which coincidentally was

493
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Speaker 2: March eighth, right in the middle of the epicenter of

494
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Speaker 2: where the coronavirus is right now, which is crazy, uh.

495
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: And there was guys from all corners of the globe

496
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Speaker 2: there and networks all over the world. So it's it's

497
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Speaker 2: I guess the short answer to your question is I

498
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Speaker 2: have always just fought for the competition and it's and

499
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Speaker 2: also taking care of my family. So trying to navigate

500
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Speaker 2: both of those and weigh their pros and cons and

501
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Speaker 2: look at the pie chart, the metaphor pie chart, if

502
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Speaker 2: you will, has always been a tough thing to do.

503
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Speaker 2: But I always feel like I've made the right decisions,

504
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Speaker 2: and currently right now, I feel like I'm making the

505
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Speaker 2: right decision where.

506
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Speaker 3: I'm at, and I know you spent six or seven

507
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Speaker 3: years now probably hearing from UFC fans constant Lee who

508
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Speaker 3: love and think there's so many favorable matchups for you

509
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Speaker 3: in that top ten. So I know you got a

510
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Speaker 3: lot of respect for that noise, and I think for

511
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: a lot of us who know you as a human being,

512
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: we just want you to have every spotlight and every

513
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Speaker 3: platform possible to see what you get to do with it. Right,

514
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Speaker 3: So I might feel short changed as an MMA fan

515
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Speaker 3: if I never get to see Kabib Tony and I

516
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: never get to see you know, gae Chie Chandler under

517
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: a UFC banner, And that might just be something as

518
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Speaker 3: a UFC fan that I got to deal with, you.

519
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Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, you can't always get.

520
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Speaker 7: What you want in life exactly exactly, but.

521
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Speaker 2: I would definitely never say never. I mean, man, first

522
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Speaker 2: of all, you Ring Gates, you that fight, that fight

523
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Speaker 2: as a as a guy who man, I just want

524
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Speaker 2: I'd love to be able to man me and Eddie

525
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 2: slugged it out for fifty minutes inside the cage. Man,

526
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Speaker 2: Justin Gates you. If I would Justin Gates you would

527
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Speaker 2: be something I would love to do. That's that is

528
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Speaker 2: the I think that's the fight that that I think

529
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Speaker 2: it's bigger than winning any title, bigger than winning any belt,

530
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Speaker 2: even if he wasn't any kind of champion. Man, that

531
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: fight where I could say, well, this is who I am.

532
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: Let's draw a line in the sand. I'm gonna go

533
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: down and bite down on those mouthpiece and show everybody

534
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: who I am. Right, That's that's the fight. And and uh,

535
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: you know, he got he got that fight when he

536
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: first came into the UFC, his his first fight, he

537
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: got Michael Johnson, top ten opponent, and then he's been boom, going,

538
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: going going. But man, that's that's an exciting fight. But

539
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: there's there's fights in Belto with that Patricio fight. I

540
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: want to get back this fight against Benson Henderson. I

541
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: keep saying that Benson Henderson is not the most talented

542
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: guy in the lightweight division, uh anymore, But he was

543
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: a dominant champion for a while. And he is hard.

544
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Speaker 2: He's hard to he's hard to beat. He's hard to

545
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: he's hard to have a good performance against. So I

546
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Speaker 2: don't know if you call that skill or if you

547
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: call that just mannerisms and and and and just the

548
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: way that he is and the way that he moves

549
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: and how durable he is. Uh. But man, oh man, yeah,

550
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: that justin gats you fight. I'm a fan, you know.

551
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: But that's that's the thing about about me about mixed

552
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 2: martial arts is because I just did an interview with

553
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Speaker 2: with the pastor oft my church and he was talking about, man,

554
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: how do you guys, how do you guys beat each

555
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: other up? And then you hug each other after, and

556
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: you're like, and you and you just gotta He doesn't

557
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: understand because he's never done it. But the amount of

558
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Speaker 2: respect that you have for somebody when you step into

559
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 2: the cage, you you get done with the fight, and

560
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: you say, man, I'm a fan of your heart, of

561
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: your soul, of your desire, of you as a human

562
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: being putting yourself out there and going out there and

563
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: being a metaphoric warrior, uh, for everything, And it is

564
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: that it is you that you believe in. So yeah,

565
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Speaker 2: thanks for bringing him up, because I freaking want to

566
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Speaker 2: fight him out.

567
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Speaker 3: I know you do, ken Fl I know wants to

568
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: jump in here and we do want to get your

569
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Speaker 3: thoughts on Ferguson and Getchee at some point. But I

570
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Speaker 3: got to get to Domina Cruz, because I know you

571
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: have a special bond with that man, and I know

572
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Speaker 3: you're probably not the least bit surprised to see him

573
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Speaker 3: competing at his championship setting here in a couple of weeks.

574
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Speaker 3: I guess I would ask you your thoughts on his

575
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Speaker 3: return and what you think might be his biggest challenge

576
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Speaker 3: in this sahudo fight in particular.

577
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I saw your I saw your post.

578
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: I think it was this morning. You're talking about Dominic

579
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: and how you've shared shared the booths with him for

580
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: so many hours, and you've spent so many trips and man,

581
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Speaker 2: for me and Dominic, we train together for so long,

582
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: and I moved from Las Vegas to San Diego to

583
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Speaker 2: literally just be around him, be around the championship aura

584
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 2: that is, that is Dominant Cruz. And for a guy

585
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: who has had so many, you know, strings of bad

586
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: luck and injuries and those kinds of things, man, you

587
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: just want to see him be successful in a comeback

588
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: like this. And I think the good thing is you

589
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: see how hard he's training. You know his mind is sharp.

590
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: You know he he doesn't believe in ring rust, thank God,

591
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: whether that is a real thing or that is just

592
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: in his mind. But you know, ignorance is bliss at times.

593
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: And what you truly believe in is the circumstances that

594
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: are that are at hand. And I truly believe he's

595
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: going to go out there and be able to put

596
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: on a good old fashioned dominant cruise butt whooping. You know,

597
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: I think Henry Sujudo is He's good everywhere. I think

598
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 2: the one thing that surprised me about Henry Suhuddo right

599
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: out of the gate he came in. He didn't just

600
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Speaker 2: start wrestling guys. He had that good He just had

601
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: a really good pressure boxing style and was able to

602
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 2: put on, you know, put hands on people and make

603
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: him fear the rest and then fear his hands and

604
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: then mix it up really well. And he's going to

605
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: do much of that, I think against a guy like Dominic.

606
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: But there's a big difference difference between laying hands on

607
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 2: people and then swinging at people, swinging at somebody and

608
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: not being able to hit him. And I think that's

609
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: what Dominic brings to the table as well as his cardio,

610
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: and I know he has switched up his strength and

611
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: conditioning routine, which I had told him probably two years

612
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: two years prior to you know, us training together as like, man,

613
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: you need to start lifting more weights, heavier and and

614
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: you'd be very surprised how less brittle the body is.

615
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 2: And I think I haven't been I haven't had a

616
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: you know, I haven't had many injuries because I lift

617
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: so many weights and put so much external force on

618
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: the body. So I know he's changed up his strength

619
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: conditioning routine. He's been training with my strength and conditioning

620
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: coach out in San Diego. So I'm excited to see

621
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: Dominic Cruz two or three point zero, whatever whatever we

622
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: want to call this one.

623
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Speaker 3: You're right in terms of your health when I was

624
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: sort of breaking down your strength, of schedule and just

625
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: the activity over the years. Man, you know been very

626
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: few years, maybe two thousands seventeen, the only one in

627
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: which you only were able to compete one time, you know,

628
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: So I give you a lot of credit for that.

629
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: I got to get to some of your wrestling stuff.

630
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: But before I do that, any quick thoughts on on

631
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: Ferguson and Getche. I mean Eddie Alvarez and Paul Felder,

632
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: a couple of elite lightweights have both come out and

633
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: said they think Gaechie wins. They love the matchup for him.

634
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: Any thoughts on Tony and Justin here in a couple of.

635
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: Weeks, I you know, we just got done talking about Gaeche.

636
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a huge fan of his, of his style,

637
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: his heart. He punches hard, he is relentless, He's good

638
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: in the clinch, and he throws those lake kicks like crazy.

639
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: But man, Tony Ferguson without without you know, without trying

640
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: to ever bring up any kind of mental actual mental conditions,

641
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: which I know people have said, I'd be like, I

642
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: think he's one of the most psycho psychopathic guys in

643
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: the in the division from a fighting standpoint, right, he

644
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: just he's he just goes. I mean the Edson Barboza

645
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: fight where he was rolling underneath and grabbing and and

646
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: then he's cutting everybody up, and he's he's just absolutely

647
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: a wild card. He's he's the guy at the wrestling

648
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: tournament that that you don't don't want to you don't

649
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: want to draw first round. He's the kid with he

650
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: doesn't have the nicest shoes, and he doesn't have you're

651
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: not quite sure where he came from, but he's got

652
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: a freaking heart. He's got a he's got a heart

653
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: that can't be stopped, and he's unorthodox, and you feel like,

654
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: since he's unorthodox, you're supposed to be able to beat

655
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 2: him because you're more talented than he is. And luckily

656
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: for a guy like Justin Gates, I don't think Justin

657
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: gatesie cares about his talent talent. All he cares about

658
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: is being a warrior and going out there. So I

659
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: would not ever bet against Tony Ferguson, especially on his

660
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: what is he twelve fight win streak, thirteen fight win streak,

661
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and and his ability, his ability to

662
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: never get tired. I think we have seen Justin after

663
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: he gets rocked and get get getting hit, get hit

664
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: a couple of times he does. He does have a

665
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: tendency to slow down a little bit. You don't really

666
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: see that much with uh. With Tony Ferguson, he's just

667
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: too he's too uh, he's too in it. He's too

668
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: in it to uh to get tired. So I would

669
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: actually go, I would go Tony Ferguson. I don't. I

670
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: don't think we're going to see a finish. If we do,

671
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a late type of submission that

672
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: justin she just kind of gets get so tired that

673
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: he ends up falling into a triangle or something like that.

674
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: It's interesting you mentioned the wrestling bracket because a guy

675
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: you wrestled at the two thousand and nine NCAA Championships

676
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: at one hundred and fifty seven pounds, Gregor Gillespie, has

677
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: told me the toughest matchup for him at fifty five

678
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: is Tony Ferguson, because it's just to a lot of things.

679
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: You said, you know, just you don't know what you're

680
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: gonna get, So all right, last thing, So, if my

681
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: research is correct, you walked out as a wrestler at

682
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: the University of Missouri a hundred career wins, four time

683
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: NCAA qualifier, also three letters in football in high school.

684
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 7: What was the extent of your high school football career?

685
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: Not much. I was I was wanted. I went into

686
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: high school a one hundred pounds and graduated at one

687
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty. We were one and nine pretty much

688
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: every year, so we did. We're in a very good

689
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: football team. So I you know, I broke my wrist,

690
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: like going into my senior year, I broke my wrist

691
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: and football going into my senior year, but I everybody

692
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: gave me crap for not finishing the season in football,

693
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, I got a cast on my hand.

694
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: Wrestling is my real deal, you know, wrestling. Wrestling might

695
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: actually get me a scholarship, and it ended up giving

696
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: me a couple all scholarship offers. But like you said,

697
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: I walked on the University of Missouri.

698
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: So was there one moment when you were walking on

699
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: one match that that you could point to that there

700
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: was just so much pressure when you were trying to

701
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: accomplish that without a scholarship at the time.

702
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: You know, I think even, yeah, the matches weren't the

703
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: problem because I wasn't really expected to I wasn't even

704
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: really expected to win. First of all, I wasn't even

705
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: expected to I wasn't even expected to really stick around.

706
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: You know. Coach Coach Smith knew one kid in particular

707
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: on the team because he had had him at camps

708
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: and whatnot, and he was he was a guy that

709
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: he knew wasn't gonna make it for very long, and

710
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I was his roommate. He put me with him, so

711
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: he figured these two guys will probably end up just uh,

712
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: you know, fizzling out. Whatever. Coach Smith, our our head coach,

713
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: didn't look at me for the first year, didn't really

714
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: talk to me for the first year. I think it was,

715
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: you know, I think it was the it was the

716
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: pressure of just looking around and being like, man, none

717
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: of these people think that I am any good at all,

718
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: and I cruisefully. I wasn't, you know, but it's like,

719
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: you know, you you can only beat on that drone

720
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: for so long before you start to learn, and then

721
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: you can only you can only have that perseverance for

722
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: so long before you look around and you think, okay,

723
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: well this guy was a state champ in California, but

724
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: he likes to party too much, as from state Champford, PA.

725
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: But all he's doing is chasing girls. And all I

726
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: was chasing was wrestling. And Tyron Woodley, who was a

727
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,239
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty five pounder, so I was one

728
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: fifty seven, so I was smaller than he is. I

729
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: was a good drill partner because I could just wrestle.

730
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: I could wrestle for hours and hours and hours. And

731
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: Tyron Woodley grabbed me, took me under his wing and said, hey, listen, man,

732
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: you're not that good, but I just need you to

733
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: be a dummy. I need you to be two arms

734
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: and two legs. And it didn't matter if he called

735
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: me at five am and wanted to go drill, or

736
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: midnight and wanted to go drill, or he wanted me

737
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: to go, just be on a run with him and

738
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: push him. I was that guy for him for like

739
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: a year, and then he stuck around a coach and

740
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: started to make me believe in myself a little bit more.

741
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: And Ben Askern came into the picture as a mentor

742
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: of mine, a big brother of mine. Those two guys

743
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: were like the big brothers I never had, and the

744
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: coaches weren't taking a look at me. But it was

745
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: kind of that upper classman mentality of those upper class been saying, Okay,

746
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: well this guy right here, out of all these guys,

747
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: you know, these all these state champions, this guy right here,

748
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: this Michael Chandler guy is not a state champion, but

749
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: he really wants to he wants to be good, he

750
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: wants to win, he wants he wants really the approval.

751
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 6: Uh.

752
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: And that's when I kind of really realized that I

753
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: was intrinsically motivated, but I was also a very good subordinate.

754
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: You know, I was reading reading Jocko's new book called

755
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: Leadership Strategies, and uh, he talks about being a great leader,

756
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: you have to be a great subordinate first. So it

757
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: didn't matter if coach wanted me to run through a

758
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: brick wall or walk his dog or do whatever, I

759
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: was going to do it. And that was the kind

760
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: of mentality that I had. And uh it was, uh,

761
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: you know, some of the best five years of my life.

762
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: And then took that into mixed martial arts and here

763
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: we are.

764
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: Well Michael Chandler, it's it's an amazing legacy you put

765
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: on paper, not just as a wrestler, but of course

766
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: as a mixed martial artist. And I'm sure you know

767
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant style, you're gonna put your your biggest imprint,

768
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: uh in fatherhood and haaps a lucky little boy man

769
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: to have you at the Helm, so uh we'll be

770
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: watching your every move man, whatever it is. You know,

771
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: thank you for been on with us today and obviously

772
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Speaker 3: we wish all the best in the future.

773
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Speaker 5: Buddy.

774
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Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, appreciate it.

775
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: Thanks Mike there he is naneful free time bellatour lightweight

776
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: champion Michael Chandler. Hopefully that future is in the Ultimate

777
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: Fighting Championship. I would certainly love to see it, and

778
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: I just love to see him get all the shine

779
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,200
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780
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Speaker 7: I think at this point.

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Speaker 3: Kempflow is the UFC is fourteenth rank featherweight contender at

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Speaker 3: President also on IBJJF World, NOGI World, and European Champion.

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Speaker 3: live from the District of Columbia. I believe what's up man, not.

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Speaker 6: Too much for how you doing man, thanks so much

821
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 6: for having me.

822
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: It's our pleasure. It's good to see you. So how

823
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: is the quarantine treating you there in the northeast?

824
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 8: Man, Well, let's see, they're not a whole hyck of

825
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 8: a lot going on. Yeah, there's mostly that.

826
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: So fifty to fifty Martial Arts Academy. Your academy closed

827
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: until June tenth per state restrictions.

828
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 7: I guess.

829
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: So when you reopen whenever, that is, do you expect

830
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: any long lasting changes for your gym and maybe the

831
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: rest of the jiu jitsu world?

832
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 9: Yeah?

833
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, predicting the future is a notoriously difficult.

834
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 8: Thing, but I would say that I would be shocked

835
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 8: if there weren't, you know, if there weren't some changes,

836
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 8: if only because people's attitudes change. You know, I know

837
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 8: that personally, I'm not going to be altering my lifestyle

838
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 8: in any significant way. But you know, every person is

839
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 8: going to have to make that decision, that determination on

840
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 8: their own, and I guess kind of remains to be seeing.

841
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 6: You know what people will do, you know.

842
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 8: What risk level they are willing to absorb, and also

843
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 8: what risk level they perceive actually exists.

844
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: Right, So I think it was the first week of March,

845
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: maybe ten days before all hell broke loose with the coronavirus.

846
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: It was announced that you'd be fighting former title challenger

847
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: Ricardo Lomas in early May. So obviously that's not happening

848
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: this weekend in Oklahoma City. So any news for us

849
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: in terms of when that matchup might actually go down.

850
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 6: No, no news, nothing really at the moment that you know,

851
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 6: I haven't really heard anything from from UFC.

852
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 8: They nobody's really reached out. I haven't spoken to anyone.

853
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 8: I'm not terribly familiar with anyone's plans. So I guess

854
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 8: it'll be It'll remain to be seen, you know. I mean,

855
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 8: all I can say is that I take more to

856
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 8: do very seriously, and I try to do I want

857
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 8: to put my best work forward, which means getting out

858
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 8: training with Kenny, training with Ferras, training with Ton Lee,

859
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 8: bringing people around.

860
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 6: To to help prepare properly.

861
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 8: And you know, in lessen and so we're able to

862
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 8: accomplish that, it would be, uh, it would be difficult

863
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 8: to accept to fight. So I guess we'll we'll kind

864
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 8: of have to see what all what all plays out.

865
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: When you hear Dana White say publicly, and maybe you

866
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 3: don't hear him say this that essentially, once we get

867
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: one in, we might go every Saturday for the rest

868
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 3: of the year. Does that push up your timeline? Does

869
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: that create any urgency in your mind knowing that in

870
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: all likelihood it will be an abbreviated camp or are

871
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: you're not gonna sort of allow that to be a

872
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: circumstance for you.

873
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 8: All that stuff sounds cool, but the reality is that,

874
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 8: you know, it's you know, things will will kind of

875
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 8: go as they do go. If it's if other people

876
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 8: would like to drink you know, unletted gasoline, that's that's

877
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 8: on them. You know, I've never really been wanting to

878
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 8: jump on just because people are doing it. I encourage

879
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 8: the UFC to get back to their normal businesses early

880
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 8: as they reasonably can, and they think they can do

881
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 8: a good job. You know, their plans and my plans

882
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 8: sometimes kind of interact sometimes don't. So I guess, you know,

883
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 8: it'll be interesting to kind of see what all happens now.

884
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 8: I guess I'm hoping that maybe, you know, in the

885
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 8: fallout of all of this, there'll be some more people

886
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 8: who might be willing to fight at whereas they were not,

887
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 8: you know, they were a little bit more hesitant prior.

888
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 8: But as far as it goes personally, if the UFC

889
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 8: wants to put on the show every other day, I

890
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 8: support them and I hope that they can accomplish whatever

891
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 8: they want to accomplish, provided that they're doing the due

892
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 8: diligence and doing what they need to be doing, you know,

893
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 8: in terms of safety and health consciousness and whatever all

894
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 8: that is. But no, I will not be accepting fights.

895
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Just to do it.

896
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 8: I'm not in the financial situation where I need that money,

897
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 8: and as a result, I will take.

898
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 6: The fights that make sense at the time they make sense, you.

899
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 4: Know, Ryan, I think that the situation as far as

900
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: training for everyone differs as far as you know what

901
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: training partners you have available, you know your gym and

902
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 4: it's proximity to you and all those things. Your coaches

903
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: can you kind of explain a little bit of the

904
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: challenges that you've experienced during this time and act and

905
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: actually having a training camp, because I don't think a

906
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 4: lot of people maybe at home, understand what goes into

907
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 4: a training camp, especially for someone like you who invests

908
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: you know a lot, both financially and energetically.

909
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 8: Well, thanks, Kenny. I guess what I would say is

910
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 8: that you know, some guys and some girls that are

911
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 8: on the roster, you know they live near let's say,

912
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 8: for instance, in an American top team or a TriStar,

913
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 8: which of course is closed right.

914
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 6: Now by law. But you know for those of us

915
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 6: that I have.

916
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 8: My own academy in Washington, the DC area, and you know,

917
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 8: I have a number of people who I'm responsible for,

918
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 8: people that work here that I need to do my

919
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 8: best to take care of and when it comes to

920
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 8: you know, a camp. Personally, I do a great deal

921
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 8: of travel obviously, you know we train. I go out

922
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 8: to LA almost invariably, and oftentimes you get out here,

923
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 8: I go to TriStar.

924
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 6: At you know, for a couple of weeks prior.

925
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 8: To always to work with for ras one of my

926
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 8: closest friends and training partners, Tom Lee. He and I

927
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 8: are back and forth between here and New Orleans all

928
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 8: the time. And that's the same nothing of the like

929
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 8: probably a dozen other people that are flown from various

930
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 8: places around the USA, Canada and sometimes the globe to

931
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 8: help us prepare properly. And Tom, for instance, also has

932
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 8: he was signed to fight for the title in ONEFC

933
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 8: against Martin Wynn in Singapore when all of this went down,

934
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 8: and that's been pushed back in definitely, hopefully not too far.

935
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 8: But you know, the amount of the amount of just

936
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 8: logistics that are behind all of this are significant. And

937
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 8: I can say that at least, sitting at home, I

938
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 8: don't have people to grapple with.

939
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 6: I don't have people to spar with right now.

940
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 8: So it's not as if you can just call up

941
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 8: your buddies who are also at a various you know,

942
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 8: various levels of experience and lean on their help because

943
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 8: they live in other parts of the country and you

944
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 8: understand that they have other concerns and they have other things,

945
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 8: and they're responsible of their family and the people close

946
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 8: to them.

947
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 6: So you know, I think that there are people maybe who.

948
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 8: Feel like they would like to fight right now because

949
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 8: they maybe their training situation. You know, as long as

950
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 8: it's the people that within reach, it hasn't altered significantly.

951
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 8: And other people may elect to fight right now because

952
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 8: they may be in dire financial straits and need that money.

953
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 6: I am in.

954
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 8: Neither of those boats. I'm neither in dire financial strates,

955
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 8: nor do I have even reasonable training right now. So

956
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 8: you know, I just don't feel that it would be

957
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 8: a responsible decision to put myself in that spot. I

958
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 8: take very seriously if wor It's hard my entire life

959
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 8: to get to the point that I've gotten, and I

960
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 8: want to fight the apps, the best in the world,

961
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 8: and I want to show up at my best, and

962
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 8: I want them to show up at their best too, Ryan.

963
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: You were supposed to fight Lamas, as John mentioned. Obviously

964
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 4: that didn't go through. Do you see yourself, you know,

965
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: getting another fight against him in the future, or do

966
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: you see maybe someone else stepping in, you know, to

967
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: take that opportunity.

968
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 6: Man, I'm kind of curious.

969
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 8: I wonder you know, the UC has his own concerns

970
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 8: and other people have their own concerns. If Ricardo needs

971
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 8: to fight in short order, then I'm certainly not his guy.

972
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 8: So I wouldn't be shocked if he decided to find

973
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 8: himself under their opponent. You know, I was willing to

974
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 8: fight out of the rankings against the guy of Riccardo

975
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 8: because I respect him. He's very, very good, very dangerous,

976
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 8: and regardless of whether or not there's a number next

977
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 8: to his name, he is a very, very serious opponent

978
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 8: and someone that I would love to compete with. But

979
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 8: in reality, there's nothing special about him on an individual level.

980
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 8: I don't mean that about his skills. What I mean

981
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 8: is what he represents is special. But there are the

982
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 8: people who represent that challenge as well, and I just

983
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 8: would hope to have the opportunity, whether it's for Arto,

984
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 8: a great opponent and a great fighter, or someone else.

985
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 6: In a similar situation.

986
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 8: You know, maybe you know who knows Jose Aldo is

987
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 8: no longer fighting for the one thirty five title. I

988
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 8: haven't no idea what's going around, and he's still occupying

989
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 8: a spot in the featherweight rankings, the arbitrary featherweight.

990
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 6: Rankings that go up and down all the time.

991
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, well I would have I would have

992
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 8: dropped me to.

993
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 6: But basically, yeah, the arbitrary rankings that are there.

994
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 8: So you know, as far as I'm concerned, Riccardo Lamis

995
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 8: was number ten when he fought last. He lost the

996
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 8: fight to another great fighter, Calvin Catter. You know, there's

997
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 8: no shame in that. That's for dang shore. Either person

998
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 8: could have come out of there with the w and

999
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 8: Riccardo is a great fighter, very much and but I

1000
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 8: guess as far as I'm concerned, I just would look

1001
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 8: forward to someone at that level.

1002
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 6: And uh, but.

1003
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 8: At some point in the future when all of this

1004
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 8: has come down a little bit and I'm able to

1005
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 8: actually get something approaching you know, reasonable training.

1006
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 4: And Ryan, just in regards to the rankings, obviously you

1007
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: want to fight the best guys possible. You haven't been

1008
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 4: able to get those ranked guys that you wanted in

1009
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 4: the past. How can this whole thing kind of be rectified?

1010
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: As far as I don't know that the ranked fighters

1011
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 4: fighting each other so they can move up the you know,

1012
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 4: move up the ladder so they can get that.

1013
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 5: Championship ship up.

1014
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not really sure, man.

1015
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 8: I mean, I guess I was really curious what you

1016
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 8: guys think can because you know, obviously I want do

1017
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 8: you feel that the UFC did operate similarly when when

1018
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 8: you were in or what's your what's your experience like?

1019
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I felt like back in the day

1020
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 4: when you had the top guys, they all fought each

1021
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 4: other and it was it was just a matter of

1022
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: getting the right date and it was going to happen. Now,

1023
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, the business business decisions behind

1024
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 4: it and and everything else kind of make it really complicated.

1025
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 6: You know.

1026
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: I don't know what you think about that whole thing,

1027
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 5: John Well.

1028
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: I feel like if josh Emmett, who is ranked number

1029
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: eight in the world, gets offered Ryan Hall, who's ranked

1030
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: number fourteen, josh emmat should have to accept that fight

1031
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: within reason. I'm not picking on josh Emmett right now,

1032
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: but from a managerial perspective, Ryan, I've said this to you,

1033
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: if not publicly, I think you present as unique and

1034
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: challenging a style and a fight to anybody in that

1035
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 3: top ten.

1036
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 5: Right.

1037
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: So if I'm if I'm representing guy you're Rodriguez, I

1038
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: have pause. Even though your credentially you haven't lost since

1039
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: two thousand and six, So I do think your dangers

1040
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: sometimes work against you from a matchmaking standpoint.

1041
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess on the one hand, I appreciate this

1042
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 8: very kind of you, John, But I guess on the

1043
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 8: one hand, it's it's kind of weird because you know,

1044
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 8: I it's flattering that people are are hesitant to accept

1045
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 8: the fight sometimes, But at the same time, at a

1046
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 8: certain point, flattering doesn't move you anywhere, you know, And

1047
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 8: I guess you want I know that I can beat

1048
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 8: any of these people, and I know that they can

1049
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 8: beat me.

1050
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not afraid to I'm not afraid to win,

1051
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 6: and I'm not afraid to lose.

1052
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 8: You know, I've come a long way in the martial

1053
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 8: arts you know journey, you know, and a lot of that,

1054
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 8: honestly has been been down to the other guy on

1055
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 8: this call, Kenny. And you know, I've I've been incredibly

1056
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 8: fortunate to have good friends and mentors who continue to

1057
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 8: help me grow as a as an athlete but also

1058
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 8: as a martial artist and as a person who kind

1059
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 8: of keep me on the right path. And you know,

1060
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 8: it's I've come too far to waste my time on pumps.

1061
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 6: Man. I'm just not into it.

1062
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 8: And at the same time, I also have other things

1063
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 8: that I'm trying to do with my life. And if

1064
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 8: I end up getting frozen out of this, would I

1065
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 8: be incredibly disappointed. Yeah, there's there's I'll be lying if

1066
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 8: I said not. But I'm also not begging people to

1067
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 8: get in the ring either. It's it's weird and uncomfortable,

1068
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 8: and I just want to have the opportunity to compete

1069
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 8: against the best. And I was looking forward to facing Ricardo,

1070
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 8: because I definitely believe that he is of that caliber.

1071
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 8: But maybe through at the end of all of this,

1072
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 8: who knows kind of who's available. When you know people

1073
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 8: will be, we'd be willing to get involved in her.

1074
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 8: The Chaane Burgos just retired and resigned with the UFC.

1075
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 6: That's good news.

1076
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 8: I know Josh emmitts on his last fight on his

1077
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 8: current contract, so I know that there are a lot

1078
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 8: of concerns, but this is it is weird and at

1079
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 8: the same time, honestly, I'd be ahead of a lot

1080
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 8: better if I got to fight twice or three times

1081
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 8: a year than if I only get to fight once

1082
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 8: every other year. It's you know, I've got a lot

1083
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 8: of competitive experience and I think that that helps me.

1084
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 6: But there is nothing like being sharp.

1085
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 8: You know, it's now, it's going to be in another

1086
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 8: twelve months since the last fight before I get in

1087
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 8: the ring, and you know, I'm unfortunate to not have

1088
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 8: too much mileage physically, but you know, time will get

1089
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 8: us all.

1090
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 5: So that's the truth.

1091
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: And if you don't know, Kenny Florian a member of

1092
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: Team Hall long standing corners right in the UFC, when

1093
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: now more.

1094
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 8: The other way around. I think I'm on Team Florian.

1095
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 8: I just get to get to like satellite it out.

1096
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes I was gonna say corners Ryan Hall when his

1097
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: celebrity schedule allows, but well, we got to talk about it.

1098
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 3: Also at some point we got to talk offline about

1099
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: the hierarchy of Team Florian, because I always have considered

1100
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: myself the president of Team Florian, and.

1101
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 6: Not I would agree with that assessment.

1102
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, good, all right, all right, we got

1103
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: some rapid fire questions here with the great Ryan Hall

1104
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: on the way out. First of all, I guess I

1105
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: was just curious, and I don't know how rapid fire

1106
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 3: this is. But the best grappling match accomplishment of your life,

1107
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: the most satisfied you ever felt in a competitive sense

1108
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: in the jiu jitsu world walking off the mat?

1109
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 7: Is there one match in particular.

1110
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 8: I guess get into when I when when Jeff Glover

1111
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 8: and I wrestled, probably for third place at ADCC in

1112
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 8: two thousand and nine, was probably the neatest one grappling wise.

1113
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 8: You know, it's been weird because I haven't gotten the

1114
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 8: opportunity to go back and take a second shot at

1115
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 8: a lot of the people that beat me when I

1116
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 8: would have been training for four years. But Jeff, I'd

1117
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 8: lost to Leo Vieira the prior day and in a

1118
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 8: very very close match that uh the referee helped Layo

1119
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 8: out in and then Layo helped himself out by guillotine

1120
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 8: and me, which definitely was that was all layout, but anyway,

1121
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 8: you know, it was it was interesting because I'd never

1122
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 8: that was my first time getting to be on the

1123
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 8: same stage as the other great grapplers in the jiu

1124
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 8: jitsu world, and you know, as a brown belt, I'd

1125
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 8: just come back from from a massive surgery and it

1126
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 8: really really I've been training for about eight months to

1127
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 8: get ready for that. I was able to win the

1128
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 8: ADCC trials, submitting everybody in about and a half each

1129
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 8: and you know, in a very very tough division, and

1130
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 8: then to you know, win the first round against a

1131
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 8: tough guy Jeff Kern, who was a very very good

1132
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 8: MMA fighter, particularly at the time, and then to wrestle

1133
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 8: Lao was one of my heroes, was really neat. And

1134
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 8: then even though I didn't get the outcome that I

1135
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 8: was looking for against Leo, it ended up putting me

1136
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 8: into the third place match against Jeff Glover, another one

1137
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 8: of the best guys at my weight and someone that

1138
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 8: I looked up to since.

1139
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 6: I was a white belt.

1140
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 8: Actually I gave him a ride to his to my

1141
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 8: first jiu jitsu tournament ever. Who was a some dude

1142
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 8: in the in the lobby who asked for a ride

1143
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 8: and I had no idea who he was, and then

1144
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 8: I just watched him go out there and slaughter everybody

1145
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 8: as a purple belt. Anyway, it was pretty neat and

1146
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 8: just a good friend and the great grappler, and it

1147
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 8: was really neat to be able to have a competitive

1148
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 8: match with him, particularly with so much on the line,

1149
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 8: and it was I just I had overcome a lot

1150
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 8: to get.

1151
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 6: To that point, and that was I think that's why

1152
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 6: that meant the most of me.

1153
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,479
Speaker 7: Cool, really cool.

1154
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: So in terms of your isolation circle, right now, we

1155
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: have set the total at one and a half over

1156
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: under one and a half able bodied grapplers in your isolation.

1157
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 6: Circle zero point, so we'll take the under.

1158
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 3: I know Ken Flow knows even deeper what that exactly means,

1159
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: so I'll just leave it at that, all right. Most

1160
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: likely opponent for Ryan Hall in twenty twenty, Jose Aldo.

1161
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 7: You took the words out of my mouth a little bit.

1162
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 3: Arnold Allen, Josh Emmett, Danny Gay, Shane Burgos or Jeremy Stevens.

1163
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 7: And if you get it right, you get two hundred bucks.

1164
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 7: Anak and Florian LLC.

1165
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: You need one name out of there you think the

1166
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: most likely opponent this year for two hundred dollars.

1167
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 8: All right, let's let's let's go for that law of

1168
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 8: attraction bullshit, Jose, I'll.

1169
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 4: Do there, go all right. I didn't approve this two

1170
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: hundred dollars to Ryan Hall. I know, I know.

1171
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna spend it on booze and hookers.

1172
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 5: Okay, fine, send us pictures, that's fine.

1173
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: A factor fiction Ken Flow and his wife Clark will

1174
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: have a second child.

1175
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say fact. I'm gonna say fact.

1176
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 7: On that kids. Just asking.

1177
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 5: She'll have to catch me first.

1178
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 6: Yeah right, natural splinter very dangerous over short distances.

1179
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: If he's as smart as I think he is, the

1180
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 3: answer has got to be fiction, all right. Last thing,

1181
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: Jill sun And had another submission grappling event last night.

1182
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 3: What is your appetite right now or in the future

1183
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: to grapple for money on a circuit like that?

1184
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 8: I'll almost zero. To be honest, I did get to

1185
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 8: watch Craig Jones and Vinnie Magulas. Is a great match.

1186
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 6: You know.

1187
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 8: Craig is fantastic, Vinnie's fantastic. Holy moly, Vinnie is a

1188
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 8: tough dude. That that looked awful. And Craig the entry

1189
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 8: to that was was amazing, was beautiful to finish beautiful, and.

1190
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, that was that was a neat show.

1191
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 8: I didn't really see the other matches, but uh, I'll

1192
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 8: be honest, man, Like I like grappling, but I just

1193
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 8: straight up don't care.

1194
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 6: I like grappling.

1195
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 8: I know where I stand with a lot of the

1196
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 8: best guys in the world now. I don't need to

1197
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 8: find that out anymore. And I would love to roll

1198
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 8: with everybody. I love to train with everybody, But I

1199
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 8: want to fight. That's what I care about for as

1200
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 8: long as I'm left around in martial arts.

1201
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 6: Want to fight. There's no time for anything else.

1202
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: All right, my man, Well, we appreciate your time as always.

1203
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: Wish all the best with the gym and getting it

1204
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: reopen in a safe and efficient manner. Ryan Hall number

1205
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: fourteen in the world and moving on up. All the

1206
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: best in your next fight and beyond. Brother, thanks for

1207
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 3: your time.

1208
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 6: Thanks so much and I really appreciate it. I'm doing best.

1209
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 6: Thanks getting great See you guys.

1210
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: D It is Ryan Hall with us here on the

1211
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 3: Anicmploring podcast and Ken Flow. You felt like the Ricardo

1212
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: Lamas matchup right, did check a lot of boxes for Ryan,

1213
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 3: even though he wasn't ranked, you know, even though it

1214
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 3: maybe didn't give Ryan the opportunity to hop into that

1215
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: top ten, at least it's a credential former world title

1216
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: challenger who spent most of his career entrenched in that

1217
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 3: top ten, if not top five.

1218
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and listen, he's done some great things in the sport,

1219
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 4: has a ton of experience, and for me, I feel like,

1220
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 4: you know, we forget about it, but every time you

1221
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 4: have an experience, you have a fight with someone like

1222
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 4: that at that level, who carries all that knowledge, carries

1223
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 4: all that experience, it transfers over to you. You know,

1224
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 4: you're gonna gain so much from that. You're gonna see

1225
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 4: a lot more than you didn't see in the other fight.

1226
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: So I think it was a perfect fight for where

1227
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 4: Ryan was that to kind of move up the ladder. Now,

1228
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 4: ideally it should have been someone ranked in my opinion,

1229
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: but someone who has accomplished what Lamas has accomplished. I

1230
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: think it was a great kind of plan B. And

1231
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 4: we'll see if that gets put together again. You know,

1232
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind that matchup. If he can get a

1233
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: higher ranked opponent, that would be great just for you know,

1234
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: Ryan's ability to get closer to that title shot. But

1235
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 4: either way, you know, I like both those matchups, whether

1236
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 4: it's top fifteen or you know, someone like Lamas dan

1237
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 4: IgA you mentioned, I think would be awesome. He's a

1238
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 4: he's a killer right now, has a lot of momentum.

1239
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, I.

1240
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: Don't know if it's called dry humor or if it's

1241
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 3: just like his intelligence humor.

1242
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 7: But the kid fuck tracks me up.

1243
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: Man, you know it fucking cracks me up as long

1244
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: as he knows where he stands on Team Florian, right, yea,

1245
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 3: My presidency knows no terms.

1246
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 7: So I die and the man gets past.

1247
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 5: You are the Vladimir Putin of the Kent Flow fan club.

1248
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, if to get a tattoo to prove it, I'm

1249
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 3: certainly not apposed to doing that. But we got to

1250
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: keep this guest train moving. Let's get to the Ray

1251
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 3: Longo minute.

1252
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: Now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

1253
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 7: And I'm gonna punch a hole in this.

1254
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 6: That's what I want.

1255
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: The Ray long Minute, John and Kenny Florian podcast.

1256
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 3: Oh the Great Ray Longo now joins us live TJ

1257
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: did everything in his power to put you on camera today.

1258
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: I know you have Skype, Ray, I mean, I'll put

1259
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: it in English.

1260
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 7: The fuck is going on over there?

1261
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 9: You know what I tell you, that's the type of

1262
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 9: English I like, I understood that from you. I don't know,

1263
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 9: I don't know. I'm definitely on there. We're going to

1264
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 9: figure it out this week, because all right, I refused

1265
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 9: to get my haircut until you make fun of my lettuce. Yeah,

1266
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 9: it's it's all over.

1267
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 7: The place, fucking romaine going everywhere.

1268
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: So a couple of weeks ago, Ken Flow was talking

1269
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: about your roof needing repair, and uh, it was kind

1270
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 3: of like the Anak and Flooryan podcast to the Rescue.

1271
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: Last week we talked about your haircut and now you got,

1272
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: like what every barber in New York State reaching out

1273
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: what's going on?

1274
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 9: I mean, Kenny, this is amazing. I really I hope

1275
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 9: I hope John sends you the text that I got. Well,

1276
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 9: a big fan of Os, was willing to come to

1277
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 9: my house and cut my hair, so see what happens.

1278
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 9: But I'm not I'm not going to cut until I'm

1279
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 9: on Skype because I know this is good good. Uh

1280
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 9: you know, yuma for you, John, So I don't want

1281
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 9: to deprive you of that.

1282
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: Right, I'm gonna put this out here now. Is there

1283
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 4: anyone who wants to give Longo a Ferrari? Is there

1284
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: anyone out there was actually that they want to give

1285
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 4: Ray Longo? You know, let's see what happens.

1286
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 9: I'll tell you, I'm liking as Kenny. You got a

1287
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 9: lot of full out there.

1288
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: You forget about me, right, Well, that's because during his

1289
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 3: career I used to give him shit for like wearing

1290
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: like stuff that would ever say New York or ken

1291
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 3: Tho's always had a soft spot for New York. He

1292
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 3: loves New York City right and as a Boston guy,

1293
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 3: I never understood, I don't care what the clothing company

1294
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: is like, I don't. I wouldn't anything that said New

1295
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 3: York on it. So maybe that's why his fan base

1296
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 3: is so deep there in New York State.

1297
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 9: I don't know what John, John, what about Seafort New York.

1298
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 9: Would you wear anything with that on your father?

1299
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 7: Right? Hey, hey, I don't want to talk about my

1300
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 7: dad today. All right, Yes, I spoke to.

1301
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 9: Your father about this. I don't like what I'm hearing

1302
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 9: that you just thrown Long Island in the under the

1303
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 9: bus too many times.

1304
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, I actually got to slow that roll

1305
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 3: a little bit. But uh so, Ray, we got a

1306
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 3: couple of things that we have to get to with

1307
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 3: you in terms of our pound for pound tournament.

1308
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 7: But before we get there.

1309
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: Jacksonville, Florida, May ninth, May thirteenth, May sixteenth, who knows,

1310
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: maybe even May twenty third. All indications are the UFC

1311
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: is going to be back on May ninth. The Florida

1312
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: Commission is going to sanction the event, obviously because the

1313
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 3: Governor Ron DeSantis has deemed it essential business and as

1314
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: data White has said, ad nauseum, when the UFC comes back,

1315
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: they're going to do so at full force. What are

1316
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: your thoughts on potentially three shows within a week in

1317
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 3: Jacksonville coming up next week?

1318
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 9: Yeah? Well, look, man, I'm as long as the safety

1319
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 9: is in place. I think everybody starved, and I mean

1320
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 9: for fights, and that card looks fantastic. So yeah, I

1321
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 9: think everybody's excited. I just hope it goes according to plan.

1322
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 9: And you know again, I hope everybody's safe. And they

1323
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 9: put a lot of guidelines and enforced that'll ensure that.

1324
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 9: And I think let's give it a shot and see

1325
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 9: what we got.

1326
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: So Chris Widman was actually to face Jack hermanson this

1327
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: weekend in a main event in Oklahoma City. I know

1328
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: Chris has gone public with the different fights and opponents

1329
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: he has accepted since being quarantined. And I also know

1330
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: you're not the breaking news type, but anything for us

1331
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: in terms of conversations with Widman or Al Joe or

1332
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 3: raging Al, how soon might we see some of your

1333
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: higher profile guys get back in there.

1334
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 9: Well, it looks like I don't know if this is breaks.

1335
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 9: Looks like it could be Al Joe and Santagan sometime

1336
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 9: in June, right, and uh, you know, Chris, I think

1337
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 9: they were still working listime. I talked to him with Harmanson,

1338
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 9: but I think he now has trouble getting into the

1339
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 9: country again. So Whiteman, the looking at June at July,

1340
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 9: that's all I kind of known give away too much,

1341
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 9: But well.

1342
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 3: No, Al Jamain on Instagram is intimating that he's going

1343
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: to be fighting here pretty soon, so that would probably.

1344
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 9: Put June sixth, and that would be the day to day.

1345
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 3: So all right, unless Kenflo has anything on the way out,

1346
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: I want to get to this right now pound for

1347
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 3: pound tournament because basically what we did, given all of

1348
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 3: this dark space when it comes to the UFC schedule,

1349
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: we're trying to determine the most skilled at UFC fighter.

1350
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: Right now, we have four quadrants. Obviously Anik Florian, Longo Parker,

1351
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: and in your quadrant. The final two fighters to emerge

1352
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 3: into the Elite eight are steep A Miachi is the

1353
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: four seed and Israe a lot of Sonia the five seed.

1354
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: Both guys, at least in terms of our fan vote,

1355
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 3: able to take care of Tyron Woodley and Dustin Pourier

1356
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 3: pretty convincingly. So in your mind, I know step as

1357
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 3: your guy, so this might be a little bit difficult, But.

1358
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 7: In your mind, in a pound for pound setting.

1359
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: If all things were equal, who do you think right

1360
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: now is the better pound for pound fighter in the

1361
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: long Goo bracket and worthy of a final four spot.

1362
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: Step A Miachi is the four seed or the fifth

1363
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 3: seeded Israel A lot of sonya.

1364
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 9: I mean, well, you know what my answer is going

1365
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 9: to be, because I mean I gotta go with loup

1366
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 9: mister blue Colin all the way steep Ba.

1367
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think he of course.

1368
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 9: I think he's proven himself over and over again as

1369
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 9: a heavyweight champion, and I think he stands for the

1370
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 9: right things. And that's where I'm putting my money behind

1371
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 9: mister Steeve b a miachip.

1372
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 3: All Right, so step A is going to advance to

1373
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 3: the final four courtesy of that long go nod, and

1374
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: then the final thing for me, Right, I've talked to

1375
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: Kenny and my twin brother a lot about chill and

1376
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: quarantine and distance learning and homeschooling, so I thought we'd

1377
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 3: have a little bit of fun with this, right, because

1378
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: my twin brother I were trying to figure out, like,

1379
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 3: if you had to have one kid right now during

1380
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 3: this time, how old would you want that kid to be?

1381
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 7: Right, Because Longgo you got your own problems. Ken Flow's

1382
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 7: got his own problems.

1383
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 3: If you got a twelve year old, you got a

1384
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: whole different set of problems. Right, your fourteen year old

1385
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 3: daughter is smoking weed trying to sneak out to see

1386
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 3: your boyfriend. Right, So for me, I think I'd want

1387
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 3: a newborn because they sleep all the time, you know,

1388
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: because I think at every other age going up to eighteen,

1389
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 3: you got issues, you know. So I think for me,

1390
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 3: if I had to have one kid during the quarantine,

1391
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: I'm going like, essentially with a newborn who's waking up

1392
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 3: every two to three hours. Ray, Longo, you got one kid,

1393
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 3: pick the age during a quarantine.

1394
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 7: What age you go?

1395
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 9: You know what they say, John, little kids, little problems,

1396
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 9: big kids, big problems. Now I go, you know, I listen,

1397
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 9: I have my kids home right now, the twenty three,

1398
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 9: twenty four, so at that age is working out good

1399
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 9: for me. Everybody's doing great. So I'm going to go

1400
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 9: with exactly what I got. Twenty three.

1401
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 3: We have Michael Chandler on earlier and he was talking

1402
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 3: about his three year old son Hap and here I

1403
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: am thinking, man, my two year old. That's got to

1404
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 3: be the worst age, Kenny, True is what I just

1405
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 3: turned two?

1406
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 4: True just turned two. Yeah, it's been pretty easy with her.

1407
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 4: I mean, she's she's pretty easy to deal with.

1408
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 5: Man, She's she's been great.

1409
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, been fun all right, Well, long goes the other side.

1410
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 9: Something's going to get Michael Chandler down. I was doing.

1411
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 9: What a great guy, what a.

1412
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: Man?

1413
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 7: All right, well, Ray, we'll let you get out of here.

1414
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 7: We'll talk to you next Monday.

1415
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 3: It sounds like ken Flow's two year old has just

1416
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 3: much better behaved and well adjusted than mine.

1417
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 9: So that means his wife's doing all the work. That's

1418
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 9: exactly what that means, trust.

1419
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 3: Me, all right, exactly, all right, not wrong. Hey, sorry

1420
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 3: for the delay, appreciate your time as always, and uh

1421
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 3: I hope you have a seamless week. No major issues

1422
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: there in New York this week from my man, right Longo.

1423
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 7: Okay, buddy, you.

1424
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 9: Guys are the best man. Stay safe and let's go.

1425
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 9: I'm excited. I'm excited to fights.

1426
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 7: All right, buddy, there he is, Ray long Ago.

1427
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 3: Next week, of course, we'll be giving you his prediction

1428
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: on on Ferguson Gaetge and the rest of this mega

1429
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 3: card that they have put together for UFC two forty nine.

1430
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: All right, right now, Pound for Pound Tournament, we are

1431
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: going to get it down to the final four. To

1432
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 3: that end, let's get to the main event challenge.

1433
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 7: It's the main event challenge, and the time is most definitely.

1434
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: Hi fas fight.

1435
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 5: How do you everything?

1436
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: Both will to win the main event challenge to John

1437
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: Nick and Kenny Florian.

1438
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 3: Podcast All right time Now for the main event challenge.

1439
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: Ian Parker joins us live from South Florida, and thanks

1440
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 3: to our listeners and viewers for the support of this

1441
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: Right Now Pound for Pound tournament.

1442
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 7: This is ken Flow's baby.

1443
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: About twenty five thousand votes across all platforms, So the

1444
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 3: fans have been the ones who have taken us from

1445
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 3: the Sweet sixteen down to our final eight. So I'm

1446
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 3: gonna share the voting results here with ken Flow and

1447
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 3: with IP and we'll get your thoughts and then we

1448
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 3: will move forward with details on how we're going to

1449
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 3: determine our right now Pound for Pound King. So we

1450
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: will start in the antiquadrant where Johnny Bones took seventy

1451
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: percent of the vote against Francis and Gano, so he

1452
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 3: moved on, as did Connor McGregor seventy one percent of

1453
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: the vote against Alexander Volkanovski, the eight seed, moving down

1454
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: into the longo bracket. This one surprised me a little bit.

1455
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: Stepe A miaciic eighty one point five percent of the

1456
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 3: popular vote over Tyrone Woodley, who got eighteen and a

1457
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 3: half percent of the vote. So steep A moves on,

1458
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 3: as does Israel Otasania Stylebender getting eighty five percent of

1459
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 3: the vote. That was almost the highest total in round one.

1460
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 3: So Steepe and style Bender are in the Elite eight

1461
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 3: out of the Longo bracket. And as you just heard

1462
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,959
Speaker 3: from Ray, he has moved steep A into the final four.

1463
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 3: We move across the bracket into the Florian quadrant. Kabib

1464
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: versus Dominic Reyis and this was the biggest landslide of

1465
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: round one, Kabib taking eighty six point two percent of

1466
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: the vote. So he moves on, as does Tony Ferguson.

1467
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: I thought Kamara Usman the seventh seed versus Tony Ferguson

1468
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: the ten seed was the most competitive Round one matchup,

1469
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 3: seventy three point eight percent of the popular vote to

1470
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: Tony Ferguson. So he moves in to an Elite eight

1471
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 3: matchup with k abieb Nermago Metab.

1472
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 7: He's just gotta love it.

1473
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't even do it on purpose, right,

1474
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 3: That's just the way it went down. And then in

1475
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: the Parker quadrant, Henry Suhudo over Robert Whittaker by the

1476
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 3: narrowest of margins. This was the closest round one matchup,

1477
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 3: Sahudo getting fifty point five percent of the vote as

1478
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 3: the three seed, forty nine and a half percent of

1479
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 3: the vote for Robert Whittaker, who is now out as

1480
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: the fourteenth seed, and then Daniel Cormier with relatively seventy

1481
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: percent of the vote against Max Blessed Holloway.

1482
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 7: So, Flow, we'll start with you.

1483
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: Any major surprises in the round of sixteen before we

1484
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 3: move forward.

1485
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I picked Tony to beat Uzman.

1486
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 4: I figured that most people would actually go with Uzman.

1487
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 4: I really did, just based on his consistency in that

1488
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 4: welterweight division and the fact that he is somewhat similar

1489
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 4: to Abib Normago met Off. But yeah, so that's kind

1490
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 4: of the one that probably surprised me the most.

1491
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 3: Right because Ken Flow made his case for Tony Ferguson,

1492
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 3: I think you swayed popular hitting you, I'll see connotations

1493
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 3: you're not supposed to do that.

1494
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 7: But can Flow fueling the public vote there?

1495
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 6: Likely?

1496
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 3: Ian I mentioned Stepe and Woodley. I expected that to

1497
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: be a little bit tighter. I think that's a close

1498
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: fight in a pound for pound setting anything jump off

1499
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 3: the bracket for you in round one, my met I have.

1500
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 10: To take all the blame for a Winnaker losing by

1501
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 10: that margin. I'm too quick to like all of our

1502
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 10: posts from Cody that I accidentally fucking clicked on Henry

1503
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 10: instead of Whinnaker, and I picked Winnaker last week, so

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01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 10: I think that was actually my fault. And when I

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01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 10: tried to refresh the screen and go back, the answer

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01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 10: was no. I asked Cody, Hey, can we go back

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01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 10: and change it? He said no, So, uh, Bobby knuckles,

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01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 10: I apologize by you losing by that margin.

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01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 11: It is literally my fucking fault.

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01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 3: But whoa poo, how about Yeah, I'm actually glad. As

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01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 3: much as I love Robert Whitaker, truly one of the

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01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 3: classiest guys in the MMA space, I'm glad Sahudo's still

1513
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 3: in because it can We're relevant right now fighting defending

1514
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 3: his title on May nine. So I think it works

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01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 3: out that Sahudo moves forward. The question is will Ian

1516
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 3: Parker move him forward? Because this is what we're doing

1517
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 3: in the nature of time, so essentially we were prepared

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01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 3: to drag this thing out if the UFC wasn't able

1519
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 3: to resume its schedule. But next week is a pay

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01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 3: per view week, so Ian and Kenny are probably gonna

1521
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 3: be giving you ten predictions. So we need to determine

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01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: who is the right now pound for pound king by

1523
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 3: this time next Monday. So to that end, we're going

1524
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 3: to fast forward this thing to the final four and

1525
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: then we're going to allow fans to vote in the

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01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: final four. Then on Friday, go to Anti Florian Pod

1527
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 3: on Instagram. We'll do an IG live on Friday with

1528
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 3: the Duck and maybe Ken Flow will figure it out.

1529
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: But basically on Friday, you'll know the championship matchup and

1530
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 3: ultimately who the champion is on Monday. But it means

1531
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 3: that for you guys in your quadrants, we need you

1532
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 3: to determine who goes to the final four. So Ken Flow,

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01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 3: it's crazy that it down this way, but it's Eibner

1534
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: Mongo Metov the two seed versus Tony Ferguson the ten seed.

1535
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 3: You kind of take the pound for pound part of

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01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: the conversation out because these guys are both lightweights right now,

1537
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 3: so you're basically gonna give the masses today what would

1538
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 3: have been your UFC two forty nine main event prediction.

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01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 7: So no pressure twenty no.

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01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 3: Pressure exactly, Tony Ferguson, fuck up evener Mongo Matov as

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01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 3: they were supposed to do on April eighteenth.

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01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 7: Who's the better man? Flow?

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 5: Well, this is just not realistic. And when would these

1544
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 5: guys ever fight each other. I mean we've been trying to, yeah,

1545
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 5: have things together. There's no way it's gonna happen. There's

1546
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 5: no way. You know, it's great the way it turned out.

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01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 4: I definitely had Habib Tony on my side as well.

1548
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 4: You know, this is one of these fights where I

1549
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 4: kind of go back and forth. For me, I think

1550
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 4: the thing that separates Habib, let's say, from the Uzman matchup,

1551
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 4: was the fact that Habib's submission skills I think are

1552
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 4: superior to that of Kamara Uzman. I don't don't see

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 4: Habib re getting caught with something crazy. If there's someone

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01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,439
Speaker 4: who could do it in that division, perhaps it's someone

1555
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 4: like Tony Ferguson. I do not think it would be

1556
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 4: an easy win for Habim Namaga met Off. I think

1557
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 4: this would be an absolute war over the course of

1558
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 4: twenty five minutes with Habib Nrmaga Metof just getting the nod.

1559
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 4: I just don't see him making a whole lot of

1560
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 4: mistakes out there. And Tony Ferguson thrives when he gets

1561
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 4: you into these brawling situations, and you know, people tend

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 4: to panic and make mistakes. I don't see Habib making

1563
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 4: too many of those mistakes. I see his consistency in

1564
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 4: his undefeated streak just being a little bit too strong.

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01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 7: He has the experience to back it up.

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01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 4: Habib Namaga Metof wins that one by decision, But man,

1567
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 4: I want to see that fight.

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 7: Just make the.

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01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 3: Fight no time September October, unless Justin Gatche messes with

1570
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 3: everybody in the best of ways.

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 7: Justin, we love you, all right.

1572
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,440
Speaker 3: So Habibnamaga Matov, the two seed, will represent the Florian

1573
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 3: bracket in the final four of our Right Now pound

1574
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 3: for pound tournament.

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01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 7: The question is who will he meet in the final four?

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01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 6: Ian?

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 3: Will it be Henry Sahudo or Daniel Cormier. Pretty compelling

1578
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 3: matchup here, especially in a pound per pound situation. Who

1579
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 3: do you give the final four nod to the messenger

1580
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 3: Henry Sahudo or DC?

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: Uh?

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01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, this is this is hard because I think so

1583
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 10: Judo's cardio. Even though d C has been able to

1584
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 10: go five rounds all the time.

1585
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 11: The speed level of Sohudo throws me off.

1586
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 10: And you know, a in a heavyweight light heavyweight division,

1587
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 10: guys don't shoot in wrestle wise the way they're doing

1588
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 10: the lighter weights. I just have a hard time, though,

1589
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 10: seeing Shuto be able to handle DC pressing him against

1590
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 10: the cage and really control them that clinch. And you know,

1591
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 10: for me, boxing wise, I think DC has the better.

1592
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 11: Hands also in that situation. This is this is tough.

1593
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 10: You know, maybe that was karma for laughing at Kenny

1594
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 10: for having a pick HAMI versus Tony. Because even though

1595
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 10: this is not really gonna happen, this is hard, I'm

1596
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 10: gonna lean towards DC in the situation. I do think

1597
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 10: that he'll be able to neutralize the speed by pushing

1598
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 10: Henry against the cage, and Kenny doesn't have any good

1599
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 10: impressions to get him Maye between these two guys right now,

1600
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,959
Speaker 10: So I'm gonna go with Cormier in this situation.

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01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 6: I like DC.

1602
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 10: Like I said, I think the clinch game is just

1603
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 10: will be too much for Henry, and I'm trying to

1604
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 10: pretend like they're both I love I love.

1605
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 5: I love d C as well.

1606
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 4: But you do know that Sehudo is an Olympic gold

1607
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 4: medalist in wrestling, right, like he wrestled before, when he's

1608
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 4: seen the clinch before, you know that.

1609
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, But I would also think someone like yourself would

1610
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 10: know there's a big difference between wrestling and MMA wrestling,

1611
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 10: and when guys are able to keep Henry against the cage,

1612
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 10: that kind of changes that a little bit. You know,

1613
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 10: Ken Henry's wrestling when he shoots that outside single and

1614
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 10: brings you down and goes into the side. I think

1615
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 10: it's where he really is able to utilize that wrestling

1616
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 10: the most. But guys, you know, I really don't like

1617
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 10: the way this conversation went. I should have stopped like

1618
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 10: three minutes ago, but I'm choosing DC. Fuck you, Kenny,

1619
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 10: I love you though, But it's a rap rap Yeah, yeah,

1620
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 10: you hear that?

1621
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: Is that?

1622
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 11: Ray hold on?

1623
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1624
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you know, when Henry and DC

1625
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 3: are engaging in the clinchy in that they both weigh

1626
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five pounds for the sexercise, right,

1627
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 3: you know.

1628
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 11: Actually, in my brain they both are two hundred and sixty.

1629
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 7: That's fine. Now, that's fine, right, So.

1630
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 3: Will face cub ibnrmgo Medov in the final four and

1631
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 3: again Anti florianpodcast dot com or YouTube or anti Florian

1632
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: pod on social media, any number of ways you can

1633
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 3: vote on who should be in the championship matchup, and

1634
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 3: then on the other side, we'll go to the antiquadrant.

1635
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 3: So my matchup in the eight the number one seed

1636
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 3: John Jones against ninth seeded Connor McGregor. And you know,

1637
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 3: you know how much I appreciate finishing ability, particularly in

1638
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 3: the UFC. You know, Connor McGregor has an outstanding finishing

1639
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 3: rate in the UFCU. I went back and forth on

1640
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: this all day because I wanted to find a way

1641
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 3: to push Connor into the final four. But I just

1642
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 3: couldn't envision him finishing John Jones. So of all the

1643
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 3: reasons you could make a case for John Jones in

1644
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 3: that matchup, you know, I felt like, over twenty five

1645
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 3: minutes he wasn't going to be finished. And certainly I

1646
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: saw grappling and wrestling and submission advantages, and also I

1647
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: think in terms of the activity and the championship minutes,

1648
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 3: you know, I think that's something that could be in

1649
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 3: John Jones's favor, So I didn't expect to have to

1650
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: do this exercise. But I will give John Jones the

1651
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 3: nod into the final four and he'll take on Stepe

1652
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 3: on the other side of the bracket. So anti Florian

1653
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 3: pot on Instagram on Friday and we will have some

1654
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 3: more conversation and ultimately determine the championship matchup. All right,

1655
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: but those are fake fun fights. I want to get

1656
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 3: some real fights now. It's UFC two forty seven, Ferguson

1657
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 3: versus Gae Chee. Kenny and I talked about this off

1658
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: the top of the show. Ian, I don't want to

1659
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 3: be I don't want to overstate the depth of this card, right,

1660
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 3: but this is a megacrd Ian of the highest order, right.

1661
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 3: I mean Ryan Span and Sam Malvey is the first

1662
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 3: fight of the night. And I'm not sure if Ryan

1663
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 3: Span is ranked right now at light heavyweight, but he

1664
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: is certainly a guy that people fancy as a future

1665
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 3: light heavyweight contender. Niko Price and Vicente lucare fighting on

1666
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 3: the Internet in a rematch that could be on pay

1667
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 3: per view. So you've seen the twelve fight Cardian Parker,

1668
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 3: what do you like about.

1669
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 11: Top to bottom. It's so strong, you know, it's interesting.

1670
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 11: And this is something I think John you mentioned a

1671
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:17,839
Speaker 11: few weeks.

1672
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 10: Ago when Dana's gonna have to play catch up. This

1673
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 10: is kind of what you're gonna get. And I think

1674
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 10: this is gonna all these guys want to fight, but

1675
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 10: I think in regards again their names out there and

1676
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 10: their brand, it may hurt them a little bit. But

1677
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 10: guys like Bryce Mitchell, who's been a huge fan favored

1678
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 10: also he's buried somewhere in that card, right, you know,

1679
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 10: Michelle Waterson and Carlos Barza is out there, and then

1680
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 10: you got Cowboy and Showtime don't even make the pay

1681
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 10: per view. This is crazy, and correct me if I'm wrong.

1682
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 10: But is it your boy Greg Hardy? Is he kicking

1683
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 10: off the pay per view with Del Castro? Is that

1684
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 10: where they're going with this?

1685
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 11: Of course they're going.

1686
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 10: With it that way, because Greg Hardy should be on

1687
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 10: payer view over all these other fucking guys because he's

1688
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 10: obviously earned it.

1689
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,959
Speaker 11: But you know, long story short, this is just insane.

1690
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 10: This is gonna be the first time everyone's gonna have

1691
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 10: to really tune in, especially on the East Coast, from

1692
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 10: like what four PM all the way until the wee hours.

1693
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 11: So I love this car.

1694
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 10: This is gonna be so exciting, bathroom breaks is gonna

1695
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 10: be the only thing allowed. And I'm gonna be texting

1696
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 10: Kenny this all night. So that's all that really matters.

1697
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 3: Well, I think a year ago it was easy to

1698
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 3: say what Greg Hardy hadn't earned, you know, but no

1699
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 3: fighter competed more in twenty nineteen than he did. I'm

1700
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 3: just saying, though, I know, but nobody answered the call

1701
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 3: more than Greg Hardy, who obviously has been featured in

1702
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 3: prominent slots before. But you can argue Serni pettis potentially

1703
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 3: in the featured prelim on ESPN that might be the

1704
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: more desirous slot. Kenny, we obviously talked about the two

1705
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 3: title fights off the top of the show. Just gonna

1706
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 3: throw a few others your way here right now, and

1707
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 3: of course getting the full preview next week. But how

1708
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 3: about Fabricio over Doom, a name we haven't talked about

1709
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: at all, stepping up against Alexiolinic at heavyweight? You got

1710
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: a sparzan Michelle Waterson part of the prelims as well.

1711
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 3: You're Ryah Hall and Jacka Da Sosa we're gonna fight

1712
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 3: April eighteenth, So that was one of the fights that

1713
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 3: held together, as did Hardy de Castro and Steven's and

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Speaker 3: then the featured bout on pay per view Francis and

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Speaker 3: Gano and Jarseno Rosenstrike. So a lot of fighters who

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Speaker 3: have been matched up for several weeks with their opposition

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01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 3: and then another guy in Verdoom just stepping up. Always

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Speaker 3: excited to see him on the card. Any of those

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Speaker 3: matchups peak your interests can.

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Speaker 5: Flow, you know.

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Speaker 4: The Sparza Waterson matchup is very interesting. I think as

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Speaker 4: Sparsa matches up really well against Michelle because of her

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Speaker 4: wrestling skills. Curious to see how Waterson does stopping those takedowns.

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01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 4: But if she's able to keep it on the feet,

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Speaker 4: I see her having the advantage there. That's an interesting fight.

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Speaker 4: I think the Alexi Olinic fight for Fabricio ver Doom

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Speaker 4: is good matchmaking. I do think that ver Doom definitely

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01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 4: has the advantage as the grappler. I think that's the

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Speaker 4: one guy that we divisioned that ol Linick probably doesn't

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Speaker 4: want to fight because of Verdom's experience there. But it

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Speaker 4: will be interesting to see how Verdom comes back from this.

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Speaker 4: This is a big opportunity for him. I know he's

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Speaker 4: been wanting to get back in there and test himself.

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Speaker 4: It's a good fight for him. But Olynic, as we know,

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Speaker 4: you can never count him out. He's dangerous even if

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01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 4: you mount them so crazy strong guy and that card

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01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 4: is just ridiculous. Man Rosen strike and Ghanu. Is there

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Speaker 4: any way that that fight goes the distance?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. If it does, I think we will.

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Speaker 5: We're in for a classic.

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Speaker 7: I think what we're gonna have to do next week.

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Speaker 3: Some of them will be super quick, like maybe Bryce

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01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 3: Mitchell and Charles Ross on UFC five Pass. But we're

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Speaker 3: gonna get twelve predictions from you guys next week, so

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01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 3: we're gonna pick the whole. Sorry to break that upon

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Speaker 3: you right now on live radio, but that's just the

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Speaker 3: way it's going down. Twelve predictions as we get back

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Speaker 3: to what we do best here on the antikin Florin

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Speaker 3: podcast next week on the main Event Challenge in Parker,

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Speaker 3: MMA on social media. Gracious for your time today, sir,

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you the Real Deal returns next week,

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 3: so do your homework.

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Speaker 11: I'm at oh bro, I'm so pummed.

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Speaker 10: There's a few of these out there that I'm a

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Speaker 10: little questioning on those odds. So these bookies every ready

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Speaker 10: because I'm not going to fucking rob them.

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Speaker 3: We will talk about all of these fights from a

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Speaker 3: vetting perspective next week, but we got a bounce on

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Speaker 3: out of here. Thank you to our guest today, Michael Chandler,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Hall, Ray Longo, Ian Parker. Don't forget Anna florianpodcast

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Speaker 3: you all for listening, for watching. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 3: next Monday.

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Speaker 7: Which will be fucking fight week, thank god.

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Speaker 3: Until then, don't text and drive if you're driving anywhere,

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