1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Can you remember when your 2 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: children were just three months old? How sweet, how precious, 3 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: how defenseless they were? Your job, job number one, to 4 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: keep them alive. How does a three month old baby 5 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: disappear for weeks on end and the parents don't know? 6 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: How does that happen? Just curious because you have to 7 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: carry the baby everywhere you go, so no one ever thought, Wow, 8 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: I left the baby in the house, I left the 9 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: baby in the car. That never happened. I'm talking about 10 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: a beautiful little girl, Angel Nicole Overstreet. I mean it. 11 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: See Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being 12 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and series XM one eleven. 13 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at WOWKTV Breaking news. 14 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Huntington police are looking for this missing baby, Angel over Street. 15 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: The last time anyone saw her was May eighth. Teleprojective 16 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Service Agents believes she may be with her father. The 17 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: police department also says that the father turned Angel over 18 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: to CPS two weeks ago, but CPS wasn't able to 19 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: confirm a custody exchange. Now. Angel is three months old 20 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: with blue eyes and dark hair with a reddish tint. 21 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: She also has a strawberry shaped birthmark on the back 22 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: of her neck with me an all star panel to 23 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: make sense of what we know right now in the 24 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: search for Angel Overstreet, a defenseless baby. First of all 25 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: Icon and the crime Fighting World, founder of Class Kids 26 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Foundation and on Twitter at Polly Dad Mark class is 27 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: joining us. Kathleen Murphy, family lawyer out of North Carolina 28 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: at NC Domestic Law dot com. Renowned psychologist joining us 29 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: out of Manhattan. Karen Stark, She's at Karen Stark dot com. 30 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: That's Karen with a see Special Deputy Sheriff Johnson County Sheriffs. 31 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: You can find him at Kelsey's Army dot com. Greg 32 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: Smith joining us, but first to Alexis Terreschuk, crime online 33 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: dot com investigative reporter. First of all, describe for me 34 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: what does Angel Nicole Overstreet look like? I mean, you know, 35 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: you've got a baby. It's hard for people, if it's 36 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: not their baby, to really distinguish amongst other babies. Like 37 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: when I have the twins, people would say, well, which 38 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: one is Lucy and which one is John David, And 39 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: to me it was so apparent. So it's kind of 40 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: hard to get a description on an infant. For non parents, 41 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: but give it your best. Can see the last time 42 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: she was seen she was three months old. She has 43 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: blue eyes. She has a dark colored hair, kind of 44 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a reddish tint, but not very 45 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: much of it. She's like tuft of hair on top 46 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: of her head. The one thing that would stick out 47 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: is she has kind of a strawberry shape, so how 48 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: much you know, like a heart shaped mark on the 49 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: back of her neck. But she is a white baby, 50 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: and she is probably I mean, I don't even know 51 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: if she weighs twenty pounds. She's funny looking at her 52 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: and you can see they Yeah, I can see a 53 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: red red tint to her hair. She doesn't have much hair, 54 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, she's a little baby, but I can definitely 55 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: see the red hair growing out In a layer photo. 56 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're looking at the one I'm 57 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: looking at. She's got on a light brown onesie covered 58 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: in daisies. With that one, you can really see the 59 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: red hair is growing out. The earlier pictures that sadly 60 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: I believe law enforcement was using. I don't know that 61 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: a non parent could tell her from another baby, but 62 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: the one with the red hair growing out, I mean 63 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: Mark klass. Let me ask you, because your whole world, 64 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: your life is devoted to helping finding missing children. There's 65 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: not that many red headed people in the world, unless 66 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: it's from a bottle, okay, and I certainly don't have 67 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: a leg to stand on for that. But a redheaded baby, 68 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: that's not that usual, is it. I don't think it is. 69 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we should go if you look it up. 70 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: How often does red hair occur? My daughter and I 71 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: were looking up green eyes versus blue eyes, versus hazel 72 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: eyes versus brown eyes, and then the two of them 73 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: started looking up hair color. And I can remember that 74 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: it was very rare. So mark a baby missing, a 75 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: baby missing with red hair, and certainly that hair change 76 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: over time. But listen, this child is hellooa red hair 77 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: mark class. I don't think red hair changes over time. 78 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: It does. Blood hair changes over time. Well, it gets 79 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: darker and darker unless you're modeling it out, doesn't it. 80 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, people I know that are of age that 81 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: have red hair have much darker red hair than a 82 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: little ginger, little ginger headed kid. It's still red. Well, 83 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: I got it. I got some data. One to two 84 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: percent what one to two percent of the world population 85 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: as a natural redhead, So that would I'm extrapolating Mark Class, 86 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: one to two percent of missing children are redheaded, so 87 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: that narrows it down. I mean it helps a little, 88 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: It helps a little. Books, What exactly are we looking for, Nancy, 89 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Mark Class? It seems to me, and this is anecdotal. 90 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: I don't have a stat on this, but I bet 91 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: you do. The children that we typically deal with that 92 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: have gone missing, are you know, three or four years 93 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: old at east or older? I don't typically hear of 94 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: an infant. God, Missy, Well, it happens. It happens in hospitals, 95 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: not nearly as much as it used to people that 96 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: want to claim a baby for their own. But this 97 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: is a situation where you have a red haired baby 98 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: that was supposedly turned over to CPS. The fact that 99 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: the baby had red hair should give CPS some ability 100 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: to track the child Class. You know what, you are 101 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: an icon and a living legend in my mind, a hero. 102 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: But are you really giving any credence to CPS child 103 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: Protective Services? I mean, Mark Class, how many cases have 104 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: you and I investigated where Child Protective Services leaves the 105 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: baby and a horrible situation and then we're covering a 106 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: murder because if CPS leaving the children in the situation, 107 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: then they're abused, tortured, starved for another few months before 108 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: they're killed. I mean, really enjoying CPS and a derelict parent. 109 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't know which one I would trust more. Well, Nancy, 110 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I would trust CPS more because they have a massive 111 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: caseload and you're absolutely corrected way more cases than either 112 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: of us would want to admit. CPS is somehow involved 113 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: because of their misguided efforts or their incompetence, but there 114 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: are also a lot of cases where they get it 115 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: right and where they do to protect the children, and 116 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: that's exactly what they're there for. And they have absolutely 117 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: no record of this little red headed girl. Well put 118 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: mark class. Guys. Let's hear from the Chief of Police 119 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: of the Huntington Police Department. This is Ray Cornwell addressing 120 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: this baby's disappearance, a matter that has been brought up 121 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: some folks of question why the Amber alert system was 122 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: not utilized in this situation, and the Amber alert system 123 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: would not be applicable in this situation. We actually consulted 124 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: with the office that issues those alerts, with the West 125 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: Virginia State Police and the Amber Alert system is used 126 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: to put out information that is fresh, immediate, and ongoing. 127 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: And by the time the information came to us that 128 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: the last known contact with the child was over two 129 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: weeks away, so we did not have fresh information, any 130 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: vehicle descriptions or anything like that. We did consult with them, 131 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: but it was determined that this matter did not qualify 132 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: for an Amber alert. You know, bout g Mark Class 133 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: said another one of your specialties, does the name Cherish 134 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: Periwinkle ring about? Oh my god, the little girl in 135 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: the Walmart? Yes, and the mom Rain who has her 136 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: children at Walmart and some guys they meet at Family Dollar, 137 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: gives them a ride over there. He strikes up a conversation. 138 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: They keep talking. It's getting toward closing time, and there 139 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: happens to be it's a superstore, a Walmart superstore. You 140 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: can actually see and the surveillance of video you can 141 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: see that perv. The little the children are hungry, and 142 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: he goes, oh, I'll just walk him up front. We'll 143 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: get some cheeseburgers. Because the McDonald's is part of the Walmart. Again, 144 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: it's one of those huge superstores. And the mom goes 145 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: okay because it was inside the store, she tells me, 146 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: So she wasn't worried, and you can see the two 147 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: of them walked straight by the McDonald's and out the door. 148 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: At my point, they police did not listen to the mother, 149 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: thought this was some custody problem and did not issue 150 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: an Amber alert. And almost instantly, when many hours later 151 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: they do issue the Amber alert, somebody calls in and 152 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: they recognize the car, and they've seen the car, and 153 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: they go and the child is dead. So here once again, 154 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: no Amber alert. What do you make of it? Mark 155 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: class Well, I actually agree with the police chief. The 156 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: Amber alert is about children that have just been taken 157 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: and the ability of the public to assist in bringing 158 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: that child back. This is an entirely different situation. This 159 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: is a child that had been gone for weeks already 160 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: that CPS said they didn't have. So how do you 161 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: wish you an Amber alert? What kind of information do 162 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: you let go? Except for the fact that it's a tiny, 163 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: tiny little baby with a little tuft of red hair 164 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: on the top of her head. I can understand why 165 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: the police chief did what he did. I'm not a 166 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: huge fan of many aspects of the Amber alert. To 167 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: begin with, but I think that he was justified in 168 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: his action in this case. What do you mean by 169 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: that that you're not a fan of certain aspects of 170 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: the Amber alert, Well, it was something that he mentioned. 171 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he mentioned the fact that they didn't have 172 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: any vehicle identifying information. And the reality is is that 173 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: if a predator is stealing a child, as Richard Allen 174 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: Davis told my Paullie, they're not going to leave their 175 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: vehicle information behind. They're going to work in the shadows. 176 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: They're going to work in stealth. Therefore, the only therefore, 177 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: in the vast majority of those cases, in Pauli's case, 178 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: and Adam's Walsh's case, in Elizabeth Smart's case, and none 179 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: of those cases would an Amber alert ever have been 180 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: issued because they did not have vehicle information. The only 181 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: thing that the Amber alert is good for in many 182 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: states are parental types of abductions or when you actually 183 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: see when you actually have a vehicle description. Runyan Runyan, 184 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: do you remember the Samantha Runnian case in a vehicle? 185 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: I think Samantha Runyan was a three year old little 186 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: girl playing in her grandmother's front yard, Grandma with another 187 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: other children. The grandmother was looking out through the kitchen window. 188 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: A car came got Samantha and shook off with her. 189 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: I believe that was a Green Hondre and you got 190 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: a good memory. Yeah, that is great for an Amber alert, 191 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: and I have to agree with you. Typically I'm furious 192 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: when Amber alerts are not issued the way it should 193 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: have been a Cherish periwinkle, because they actually had the car, 194 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: the truck, the van. It was a white van on 195 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: video where the Cherish periwinkle and the killer walked to 196 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: the van, but they didn't do it in time. But 197 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: in this case, I agree with you, and I rarely 198 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: agree when an amber a lord is not issued. But 199 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: in this case, they didn't have anything to go on, 200 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: so I cannot lambasted the police officer, the chief of police. 201 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: They had nothing that they could do with it. Guys, 202 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: we have an all star panel makes sense of what 203 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: is happening right now. Angel Overstreet, just three months old, 204 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: has not been found. We don't have a resolution to 205 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: her disappearance. We don't know where the little red headed 206 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: girl is. Um I started calling her that when I 207 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: first heard about the case. After Charlie Brown, who loved 208 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: the little red headed girl. This little girl is so beautiful. 209 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Kathleen Murphy, you're you title yourself 210 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: family lawyer, and you know how that drives me crazy 211 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: because there's nothing warm and family like at all about 212 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: what you do. You are a tiger stars say pit bull, 213 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: but I don't want to help, but he jump in. 214 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: What were you saying, so, Nancy? This baby that's redheaded? Aye, 215 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: tell all of my children, I have two blonds, three 216 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: blondes at a brunette, and I I alway gets out to them, 217 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: why you couldn't be redhead? Why couldn't you have curly hair? 218 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: My heart breaks for this baby, and Nancy, I don't 219 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: know how a three month old child nobody. It's actually 220 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: not at all what I was going to ask you. 221 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: And you're a line of business. You handle a lot 222 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: of adoptions, you handle private adoptions. A little baby that 223 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: looks like this with the beautiful red hair and the 224 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: big brown eyes, I bet that baby go for sixty 225 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars on the private market in a New 226 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: York minute, which is totally wrong. I'm saying that that's 227 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: the reality. Baby shouldn't go to the highest bidder. But 228 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: guess what, in certain circles they do sue or false 229 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: smart class. Well, I think that sometimes that human trafficking 230 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: aspect is overblown a little bit and most definitely occurs um. 231 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: But the idea of this situation ending up in some 232 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: kind of an auction or ana doesn't really you're going 233 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: off on a tangent. I asked you in the private market, 234 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: private private adoptions, a baby like this with a very 235 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: rare the red hair or that precious at that age, 236 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: when they're so lovable, it's like a little baby doll. 237 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: That child would probably be adopted for about sixty grand. Well, 238 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: there should be a record, then, there should be a 239 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: record of that somewhere. Is that Shane Kathleen Murphy? Are 240 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: there public records of secret adoptions? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely, there's 241 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: records of this in all the newspapers, and Nancy, A 242 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: lot of mothers that are pregnant and don't want to 243 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: keep their child can go into a private adoption scenari 244 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: and have all of their expenses paid for while they're pregnant, 245 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: and then placed this baby in a loving at home 246 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: where this baby's actually wanted. But instead we don't know 247 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: what happened to this little girl's mother. We don't know 248 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: anything about it. We know very very little. Take a 249 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: listen to again the Chief of Huntington, PD, Ray Cornwell. 250 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: May twenty four, twenty one, we were contacted by Child 251 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: Protective Services in West Virginia out of concern for three 252 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: month old angel Nicole over Street. CPS here in West 253 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: Virginia had been asked to contact her father, Shannon Overstreet 254 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: of Huntingdon, by authorities in Kentucky regarding some custody issues. 255 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: The child's mother was not currently cohabitating with mister Overstreet, 256 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: but the child was last known to be with mister Overstreet. 257 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: The child was last known to be with mister Overstreet, 258 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: according to the mother. The mother, okay, so how reliable 259 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: is that information? I don't know if you If you 260 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: guys remember a case we were just covering in the 261 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: past weeks, the case of little Harmony Montgomery. Take a 262 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: listen to our cut one is Diane Show NBC ten Police. 263 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: A seven year old Harmony Montgomery was last seen at 264 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: a home in Manchester in October of twenty nineteen, but 265 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: authorities day they weren't notified until just this week. We 266 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: have spoken with family members of Harmony and despite doing so, 267 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: our concerns for the her bouts of her remain the 268 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: same police now working around the clock trying to find 269 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: the blonde haired, blue eyed little girl. People are going 270 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: to say that, and they're gonna ask, well, again why 271 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: two years we cannot investigate things if they're not brought 272 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: to our attention. And when this was brought Lauranic authorities 273 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: say they don't have enough information to issue an amber 274 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: alert at this point because they don't know who she 275 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: could be with or the car she might be seen 276 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: in the circumstances surrounding this prolonged absence of very concerning 277 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: and I'll thoroughly be investigated as we speak. And once 278 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: again there Mark Klaster could not be an Amber alert 279 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: because there wasn't fresh enough evidence to attach her disappears 280 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: to any particular car mark. It shouldn't be about the car, 281 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: it should be about the child. In all situations. For instance, 282 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: if we had known about the disappearance of Little Angel beforehand, 283 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: we could have looked for a redhead girl. But right 284 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: now we're in a situation where she's been gone for 285 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: a long time, as was the other out And you're 286 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: absolutely right, you can issue an amber alert. But I've 287 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: always thought that the car. Part of this amber alert 288 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: situation is nothing but a red herring and it does 289 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: nothing but come the works up. Take a listen again 290 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: to our cut eleven. This is reporter Scott wmu R 291 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: News nine regarding Harmony. These are the most recent photos 292 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: of Harmony available. We're told they were taken when she 293 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: was about five years old. When last scene, Harmony was 294 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: about four feet tall. She has blonde hair, blue eyes, 295 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: and is blind in her right eye, so she may 296 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: be wearing glasses. Police say she may have been going 297 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: to school in Massachusetts. One last scene. Who care if 298 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: you saw this young girl a year ago? When you 299 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: think it's irrelevant, call us and say I saw her 300 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: a year ago, I saw her eighteen months ago, I 301 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: saw her a week ago. Let's lessen that two year 302 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: window and keep bringing it, keep shrinking that two year 303 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: window to the present, day to day, and let's chase 304 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: down every possible avenue with the hopes of fighting Harmony. 305 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: And Manchester Police tell us they just found out earlier 306 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: this week that Harmony was missing again. They're asking anyone 307 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: who may have seen her in the last two years 308 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: to give them a call. And as in the current 309 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: case with missing Angel, over Street. Harmony was between mom 310 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: and dad. They lived separately in two different areas. The 311 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: mom says dad has him, the dad says, no, I 312 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: didn't have him. Same thing is happening here Prime Stories 313 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Straight out to Karen Start joining us, 314 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: a renowned psychologist in Manhattan, Karen, the reality is when 315 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: parents are separate or divorced and they're trying to co parent, 316 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: a lot can go wrong. But seriously, you don't know 317 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: where your baby is. Neither parents seems to know. Well, 318 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: that makes you an answer without a doubt question the 319 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: kind of parenting that this little girl has had. And 320 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: it's very as I read about, very confusing to me 321 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: because he the father, said that he handed her over, 322 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: and is he handed her over? What did that mean? 323 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: That he was just having a visit with her and 324 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: she didn't live with him? Straight out to you, Greg 325 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: Smith joining a special Deputy Sheriff Johnson County Sheriff's Office. 326 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: His daughter Kelsey went missing as well. He is the 327 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: executive director of Kelsey Smith Foundation and you can find 328 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: him at Kelsey's Army dot com. Greg Smith, you have 329 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: been studying the cases of missing children, missing teens, missing people, 330 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: since Kelsey went missing. What should police be doing now 331 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: to find Angel? Well, there's a lot of problems with 332 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: this case already. I mean, one, the amount of time 333 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: between when the child went missing to when it's reported. Two, 334 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: CPS has no records. What's going on. I wish I 335 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: could say that that was something that doesn't happen a lot, 336 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: but it does happen a lot. And yeah, they have 337 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: a huge caseload, and yeah they're undermanned, and yeah they're underpaid, 338 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: but so or police departments and prosecutors and public defenders 339 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: and basically anybody that works for the government. But the 340 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: problem is their number one priority is supposed to be 341 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: that child, and I don't see that happening here. There's 342 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: just too big a delay on this. As we were 343 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: talking about earlier with the amber alert, I have no 344 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: problem with it not being issued. There are certain requirements 345 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: that have to be met to issue those, and that's 346 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: the main reason for that is so that an amber 347 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: alert doesn't go out every single day, because when they 348 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: become commonplace, they become ignored. And it's not I mean, 349 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: we just had a series of really had a heavy 350 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: snow weather here in Kansas, and every two or three days, 351 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: we'd get these huge warnings that there's snow mcgeddon's coming, 352 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: We're all going to die, and I'd wake up in 353 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: the morning. We had an inch on the ground to 354 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 1: the point to where people stop listening. Who cares what 355 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: the other man says? He doesn't know what he's talking about. 356 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: You'll have that same effect if AMBRO alerts went out constantly. 357 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: And so there's a reason for the priority cases, and 358 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be issued right when it happens, not weeks, months, days, 359 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: years after the fact. As a law enforcement officer, the 360 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: first day I'm going to find out for certain is 361 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: where was the child the last time anybody saw it? 362 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even find that, and looking through 363 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: the article, I know that information. I had to research 364 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: and research, make call after call to figure it out. 365 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you, where was the child last? I would 366 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: be looking at the two parents for sure. I'd be 367 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: looking at neighbors, and I would be looking at the 368 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: CPS person in charge of the case. How do I 369 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: know that he or she, probably she didn't have some 370 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: weird psychosis and what their own baby? I mean, I 371 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: would be looking at everybody most connected to the baby. 372 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: What about that, Greg Smith? Absolutely, and then you can look, 373 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: especially if you can establish some probable cause that one 374 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: or more of these people may have caused some harm 375 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: to this child. Now we can go and look at 376 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: things like phone records, location to cell phones, where have 377 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: they been? Those are areas that I would be sending 378 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: officers Tom. You know, I can't find anything in the 379 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: public record of that happening. It may be going on 380 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and I'm not aware about it. If 381 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: it is, you know, kudos to them. If it's not, 382 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: That's where I'd be heading is to try to find 383 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: that information. Right now, we know that police are searching 384 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: a property. Take a listen to our cut six. This 385 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: is Andrew Colegrave w SAZ News. Multiple law enforcement agencies 386 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: are conducting a search at a property along We're out 387 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: thirty two close to Olive Hill and Carter County, Kentucky. 388 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: They say that this property is owned by Shannon Overstreet, 389 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: the father of that little girl, angel Nicole Overstreet, who 390 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: has been missing since early May. Has been a huge 391 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: mystery since then, many attempts to try to figure out 392 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: exactly what happened to her, where she is the City 393 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: of Huntington Communications Director Brian Chambers released a statement earlier 394 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: to night saying that the Huntington Police Department is working 395 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: with multiple law enforcement agencies on this search, also saying 396 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: that at this point, no one has been eliminated as 397 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: a suspect in the child's disappearance. So what would that entail? Mark? 398 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: When they say mark class joining me everyone from Class 399 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: Kids foundation, you can find him at Class Kids. That's 400 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: klaas Kids dot org. Mark. When a property is searched, 401 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: what typically do police do, and remember they're looking for 402 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: a three month old baby girl. Well, depends on the 403 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: size of the property. If there is water on the property, 404 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 1: you're going to either have to send divers into the 405 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: water or you're going to have to drain the property itself. 406 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: Depending on the acreage. You're probably going to bring in 407 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: grid searchers to look to see if there's any recently 408 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: upturned upturned ground. You're going to be bringing in cadaver 409 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: dogs to see if they're able to pull up a scent, 410 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: and you'll just continually do that until you have confidence 411 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: that you've eliminated that particular location. But the one thing 412 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: about that report that really stands out to me is 413 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: the fact that there are multiple law enforcement agencies involved, 414 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: coming from both states and also including the FBI. Now, 415 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: when you tell me that the FBI is involved in 416 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: a missing person case, you're telling me that the agency 417 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: with the most knowledge, the best training, and the best 418 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: resources for this particular type of a situation are on 419 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: the job. And that's something that should make us all 420 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: feel a little bit or relieved that there is true 421 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: professionalism involved in this investigation. You know, what he's saying 422 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: is really interesting. How does the FED how do the 423 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: fans get pulled into a case? Greg Smith? What brings 424 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: in the FBI? Well, there's a couple of things that 425 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: can do. At one. It can be something that crosses 426 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: jurisdictional line, state lines, or it could be that the 427 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: crime is going federal that's the way that it's going 428 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: to be prosecuted. So they would be the lead agency. 429 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: And in my daughter's case, when Kelsey went missing that evening, 430 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: shortly after we couldn't find her and I was talking 431 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: with the law enforcement officers that were there on the scene, 432 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: I asked for the FBI to be brought in. And 433 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: they can be asked to come in and help. They 434 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: can't just force themselves in on a case we didn't 435 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: know that Kelsey had crossed state line. She had, but 436 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: we didn't know it at the time, so they were 437 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: actually invited to come into the case and provided invaluable assistance. 438 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: It's one thing I tell law enforcement in my trainings 439 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: I give all over the United States. Don't be afraid 440 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: to call them in. This is not an insult to 441 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: the competency of the local or state officers. It's just 442 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: they have the training. Then they have an expertise that 443 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: we may not have. And if somebody's missing, if a 444 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: child is missing, especially, why not use every available resource 445 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: you can pull in. You know what, that's right, Mark Class, 446 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: give me the stats on the first seventy two hours 447 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: of a child missing. Well, if a child is missing 448 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: within three hours of a child being taken in a 449 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: predatory type of abduction, seventy six percent of those children 450 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: will be dead. If they're going to be murdered within 451 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: twenty four hours of the incidents, if the child is 452 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: going to be murdered, eighty eight point five percent of 453 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: the children will be dead, which is another reason I 454 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: think they worked into the judgment not to call an 455 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: amber alert for a child that had already been missing 456 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: for weeks. Yeah, statistically, you're right. Take a listen now 457 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: to Andrew Coalgrave WSAZ. Huntington police are hoping the public 458 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: can help solve the mystery of a three month old 459 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: infant girls disappearance. Investigators are unable to confirm Angel over 460 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: Streets whereabouts since May eighth, according to a written statement 461 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: from Huntington Police. CPS representatives contacted the police department Monday, 462 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: saying they had been asked to follow up with Angel's father, 463 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: Shannon over Street, regarding custody issues stemming out of Kentucky. 464 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: CPS representatives also said the father told them that he 465 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: had turned over Angel two CPS approximately two weeks earlier. 466 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: So now we understand if you try to interpret what 467 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: was just said. The search of the property yielded nothing, 468 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: and police are now begging the public to help solve 469 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: the case. Looking for clues as to a missing three 470 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: month old baby girl, Angel Overstreet. Take a listen again 471 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: to the Chief of Huntington Police Department, Ray Cornwell. Artifact 472 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: have executed search warrants at mister Overstreet's mother's residence where 473 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: he stays here in Huntington on his vehicle on several 474 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: digital devices. We are working with the Kentucky State Police 475 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: to execute a search warrant at a property that he 476 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: owns in all of Hill, Kentucky. We are working with 477 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: the United States Marshal Service to locate any potential witnesses 478 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: or persons who may have knowledge related to the location 479 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: of this child. We're working with the FBI. They're assisting 480 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: us with digital forensics and have offered any other additional 481 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: resources that we may need, and also with the West 482 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: Virginia Intelligence Fusion Center regarding digital forensics. They're helping us out. 483 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: At this time, we have no specific evidence of foul play, 484 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: but we are very concerned for the safety of Angel 485 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: Nicole Overstreet and we imploringly ask anyone out there who 486 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: has any knowledge related to her whereabouts to please come 487 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: forward so that we can find this child and we 488 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: can verify her safe. Zarah answers to a lot of 489 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: the questions by Gregg's and Mark Class. We now know 490 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: that they have served warrants or they're trying to get 491 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: warrants on vehicles, digital devices such as cell phones, iPads, laptops. 492 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: They're working with multiple law enforcement agencies. They're working with 493 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: digital forensics, they brought in the US Marshals. They're doing 494 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: at all, but we still don't have Angel. That is correct. 495 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: We still don't have the baby and Nancy. This baby 496 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: was three months old when she went missing, and it 497 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: has been close to a year, so she's been missing 498 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: longer than she was known to be by her parents, 499 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: her grandmother, social services. She's only three months old. It 500 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: has been missing for almost ten months. To you, Alexis Treshak, 501 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: what can you tell me about the search for the baby? 502 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: What else are they doing? If anything, they have actually searched. 503 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: They got to search warrants to search a property the 504 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: father owns, and the property has a pond on it, 505 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: so they actually are drained the pond to look and 506 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: see if there was a body, which to me is 507 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: a big signal that they don't actually maybe think this 508 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: is a missing person and that they're maybe looking for 509 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: a body. I disagree. I think that they're using parallel 510 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: passive investigation. They've got to look for her actively and 511 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: they've got to look for her as if she were dead. 512 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: They have to do both time stories with Nancy Grace. Okay, everybody, 513 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: get ready, I'm about to drop a bomb on you 514 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut seven. This is Sean 515 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: de Lancy Fox eleven. The beating was so bad victim 516 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: Connie Overstreet is going to have to undergo facial surgery 517 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: to reconstruct the bones in her face just as she 518 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: can see again. Connie over Street survived a beating that 519 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: left her temporarily blind. She says, her son, twenty seven 520 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: year old Shannon Overstreet, came to her home in Huntington 521 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: last week unannounced. Soon they started yelling. Next thing I know, 522 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: I got hit and there was blood coming out my eye, 523 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: mine nose, my mouth. Connie says. She curled into a 524 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: ball to protect herself. Court record say Shannon then started 525 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: hitting her wherever he could reach, and I just finally 526 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna end, Cannah. I won't have to take it 527 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: no more. Connie over Street prayed for death. I figured 528 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: he was gonna kill me. That would be it. My 529 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: guardian angel here stepped in. Is he the pit bulls 530 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: and threw herself between Connie and her son, buying her 531 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: time to run outside. Let me understand something. This piece 532 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: of crap is who CPS let this little girl visit 533 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: with Shannon Overstreet. He had visitation with his infant daughter. 534 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: Did you just hear his own mother praying for death 535 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 1: after he beat her? Nancy me, I step in here 536 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: for just a minute. This is Kathleen, Yeah, I see. 537 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: I see this every day. The courts are not protecting 538 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: the children, They're protecting parental rights, and something has got 539 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: to stop. This poor baby was not protected in any way, 540 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: shape or form when she left the hospital. She had 541 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: to leave with someone. Who did she leave the hospital with? 542 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: And why didn't Social Services at that point intervene? Alexas 543 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: trest Shape. Please correct me if I'm wrong. That's who 544 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: CPS thought it was a good idea to let the 545 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: baby have visitation with Shannon over Street. Not only did 546 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: they think it was a good idea if they were 547 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: apparently contacted that the baby had not been returned, and 548 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: they waited at least a week to contact the police 549 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: about it. The baby had been missing since the first 550 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: of the month. They waited until at least the eighth 551 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: of the month to contact the police. Mark Class, why 552 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: are you defending them? Well, I'm not defending them. I mean, 553 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: if they're not contacted by somebody that the child is missing, 554 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: and if the father is going to say that he 555 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: has been. The father's going to say what he said 556 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: that he turned the child over two weeks ago. You've 557 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: got a two week gap where absolutely nobody knows what's 558 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: going on. Now. I think that something that the mother 559 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: said is very, very telling. She said that it's finally 560 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: going to be over and I won't have to take 561 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: this anymore. This wasn't the first time this guy had 562 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: beat this woman. I believe, in fact, he was under 563 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: her protection order from her to stay away from her 564 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: when he came and he tried to beat the life 565 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: out of her. So we're looking at a really bad 566 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: egg here, who knows how to manipulate people and knows 567 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: how to manipulate circumstances in time to his advantage, and 568 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: a guy mark class that CPS hand a baby over 569 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: on a silver platter. What do you think he did 570 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: the second or third time she started crying in the 571 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: middle of the night. Now, I want you to take 572 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: a listen to more of what this poc Shannon over 573 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 1: Streets Own mother said our cut eight Fox eleven Connie says, 574 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: without Izzie, she'd likely have died inside her home. She's 575 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: everything to me. She's my hero. Like Guardian Angel, my 576 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: reason for living. Police arrested Shannon and he's facing charges 577 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: of malicious assault and breaking a protective order Connie already 578 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: had against him. Connie needs surgery to repair her shattered 579 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: face and broken auster here. Connie says Shannon was violent 580 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: before and if she'd acted sooner, he never could have 581 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: done this. She says other women could learn the same 582 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: before it's too late. Timmny, women are just so. I mean, 583 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: they think with their heart instead of their head. Shannon 584 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: over Street is being held over at the Western Regional 585 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: Jail on a two hundred thousand dollars cash only bond. 586 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: Alexas Tresha, let me understand something. Alexa is joining us 587 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: from Crime online dot Com. So the Sun thirty eight 588 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: Shannon Overstreet is behind bars right now with felony malicious wounding. 589 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: It's like an aggravated assault where the mom nearly loses 590 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: her eye. I think that could be upgraded to aggravated battery. 591 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: By the way, when you lose use of a limb 592 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: like your arm, your eye, you're hearing, that's even worse 593 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: than aggravated assault, where you are placed in immediate fear 594 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 1: of serious bodily harm or death. He needs a double 595 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: charge right there to keep him behind bars. My question 596 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: is he's behind bars for viciously beating his mom almost blind. 597 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: She's having to have surgery to repair her shattered face. 598 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: When did the baby go missing? In relation to him 599 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: going behind bars at Western Regional on the beating of 600 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: his mother months earlier, the baby went missing, so the 601 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: baby was already missing when he then went and beat 602 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: up his mother and she was I know she said it, 603 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: but she was rescued by her dog. Her pitful got 604 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: in between it and attacked him. I mean, this is 605 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: the most amazing story of loyalty of dogs. They never 606 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: failed to amaze me. But this have been months, months 607 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: and months, and CPS had there. Obviously, if you have 608 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: a regular divorce, or even if you're not divorced, you 609 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: have a baby with somebody, you all don't live together, 610 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: you dropped them off on Mondays and Fridays and you 611 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: do things. But for CPS to be involved, there was 612 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: something obviously very very very very wrong, you know. Karen Stark, 613 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: New York Psychologists joining us from Manhattan today. Karen, I've 614 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: asked you this so many times and he always have 615 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: some psycho related answer, and it never rings true to me. 616 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you an ever chance. What is 617 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: wrong with these people? Well, Nancy, obviously, this is a 618 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: guy who should not have been a parent, or a son, 619 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: or a husband or a boyfriend. He's violent. He has 620 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 1: a history of violence toward his own mother and not once. 621 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: So there's something that is making him not have the 622 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: kind of emotions that all of us have. Oh boo hoo. 623 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: Don't start with him having a bad childhood. Something's making 624 00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: him not have emotions. He has emotions. They're evil, they're hateful, 625 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: they're violent. Those are emotions. Care and start. Not everything 626 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: is coated in love and kindness and rainbows and sprinkles. 627 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: It's not a unicorn pooping Marshmallows. No, this guy is 628 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: straight from hell. But exactly, I am agreeing with you 629 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: that he did not see this as a baby. I 630 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: can promise you that if he would do this to 631 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: his own mother, Mark class, what would he do to 632 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: a little baby at three am? When the baby's hungry 633 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: and screaming her head off. You could ignore her, he 634 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: could beat her, he could kill her. But one thing 635 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: we know for certain is that he's not going to 636 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 1: take her in his loving arms. And nurtured hers. Mark, 637 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question. I think I've asked 638 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: you before, but you've never really given me a satisfactory answer. 639 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 1: How do you keep doing it? I'm curious. I keep 640 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: doing it because it's my mission. I can live with 641 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: myself if I ever stopped trying to solve crimes and 642 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: help crime victims. But when you are looking at a 643 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: guy like Shannon Overstreet, the baby's missing, beautiful little baby, 644 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: it's like a baby doll. His mother is having surgery 645 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: to have her face repaired, do you ever get sick 646 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: of it? Just disgusted to the point that I don't 647 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: know you want to do something completely different? Actually no, 648 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: And the reason for that is because, well, there's a 649 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: lot of breezes. Number one. For me, it's therapeutic, Nancy. 650 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 1: This is what makes me feel alive is helping other 651 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: families in these types of situations and getting guys like 652 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: Shannon over Street off the street. We know who this 653 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: guy is, we know what this guy is capable of, 654 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: and we know that he needs to spend the rest 655 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: of his time behind bars where he can't get his 656 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: hands on a people anymore. So that's my mission, Nancy, 657 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: that's my therapy. That's my reason for doing the things 658 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: that I do. You know, every time I've ever even 659 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: briefly thought I got to do something else, I just 660 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: say case blue eyes looking at me smiling, I can't. 661 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: I cannot stop. Greg Smith, how do you even when 662 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: you're dealing with the lowest of the low of humans, 663 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: and that would be child abusers and child killers, how 664 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: do you just keep going forward? Well, you have to 665 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: remember the good that you hope comes out of it. 666 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be quite frank. In my twenty five 667 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: years in law enforcement, even before my daughter was abducted 668 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: and murdered, I never dealt well with people that committed 669 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: those types of crimes. I just couldn't wrap my head 670 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: around why you would want to do something like that 671 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: to a child. And it's yeah, I mean, you have 672 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: to be a really good actor when you're in an 673 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: interview with these people, because sometimes you have to come 674 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: across as their friend to get them to talk to you. 675 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: And thank god, the majority of these people are not 676 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: rocket scientists. I mean, it's a good thing that a 677 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: lot of stupid people commit crimes, or we wouldn't solve 678 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: as many crimes as we do. And so it's amazing 679 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: sometimes what you can get from a person just by 680 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: establishing a little bit of rapport, even though their behavior 681 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: and what they've done absolutely repulses You're not well, I 682 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 1: know this. People are furious, angry at what has become 683 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: of this little angel. Angel Overstreet is her name? Why 684 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: did it take child Protective Services? It just it tastes 685 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: like dirt in my mouth when I call them protective services. 686 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 1: Why it took them two weeks to act once they 687 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: knew the baby was missing? Now we wonder if the 688 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: case will ever be solved. The tip line three zero 689 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: four six nine six four four two zero an anonymous 690 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: tip line three zero four six nine six four four 691 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: four four please help us find Angel Nancy Gray's crime story, 692 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,