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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spinoff show Popping Off,

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Speaker 1: where we are digging deep on this season of Vanner

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Speaker 1: Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping

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Speaker 1: Off with Teddy Mellencamp and.

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Speaker 2: And Emily Simpson. Thanks for joining us. So we're going

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Speaker 2: to go right into the headlines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have time for small chat here now.

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Speaker 1: It's too much going on.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to talk to you. I don't need

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Speaker 3: to actually.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you about anything regarding life. I just need

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Speaker 1: for our guilty pleasure. We just need to get to business, guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, so let's go go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, first and foremost exciting news, The Valley renewed

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Speaker 1: for season two, with the full cast returning. This Variety

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Speaker 1: article said it has been renewed for a second season,

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Speaker 1: and yes, the full cast is expected to be back,

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Speaker 1: even those who seem to be heading toward divorce. In

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Speaker 1: the announcement part of the broader set of renewals made

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Speaker 1: by a parent company and be Soon U Reversal, the

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Speaker 1: company called the show it's most watched freshman series in

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Speaker 1: nearly a decade. But doesn't this mean there has to

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Speaker 1: be a reunion? Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 1: You can't brag about what a great show it.

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Speaker 2: Is and how amazing it is and how the ratings

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Speaker 2: are great and then be like, oh, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: there's no reunion.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kristen did say in this New York Post

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Speaker 1: article nobody knows of Season one of The Valley is

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Speaker 1: getting a reunion, including herself, After claiming on her podcast

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Speaker 1: that the cast of vander Pump Rules spin off series

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Speaker 1: won't be filming a reunion special, she goes, I did

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Speaker 1: say it on my podcast, but it's what I've read online.

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Speaker 1: The Reality Start explained while promoting the new Amazon competition

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Speaker 1: reality show The Goat. This this really tracks for Kristen

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Speaker 1: because she seems to always say things but.

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Speaker 3: Nine get it right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she does like to just talk blah blah blah oah,

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Speaker 2: and then she has to reel back in and be like, well,

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Speaker 2: that's not exactly what I meant to say, So it is.

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Speaker 2: It does track for It's very on brand for Kristen.

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Speaker 2: There's no reunion, and then to backtrack and say well,

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Speaker 2: maybe there is. Honestly, it doesn't make sense that there

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be one, especially with this show, because there's so

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Speaker 2: many things that have happened since the show filmed and aired.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's the whole Brittany Jack situation. There's Michelle

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Speaker 2: it's this one.

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Speaker 3: It's this one, and we're fun. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine for them to condense it into one episode.

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Speaker 3: I don't need three. I'm fine with just one. Cram

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Speaker 3: it in, get all the.

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Speaker 1: Shit, and let's go. But I also need to know

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Speaker 1: who the celebrity is that Michelle was talking to me.

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Speaker 3: You do I know?

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Speaker 2: Every time that comes up, I picture you just dying

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Speaker 2: that you don't know who it is.

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Speaker 1: It's it really is unnerving. This next one is kind

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Speaker 1: of a story foe story. Uh. Taste of Reality posted something,

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Speaker 1: and then somebody else posted that all of the cast

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Speaker 1: no longer has pump Rules in their bio. I confirmed

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Speaker 1: Laala never had it in her bio. However, Tom Sandval

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Speaker 2: Did they remove it at the same time and then

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Speaker 2: put it back at the same time, like was it

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Speaker 2: a coordinated effort?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Why they were boughting a house, getting alone together.

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Speaker 1: They were like, let's also take this so I know why.

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Speaker 1: I don't now that I've heard more about it, I

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Speaker 1: don't think vander pump rules is done.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either. And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like when people remove that stuff from

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Speaker 2: their bio, they do it just as a way to

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Speaker 2: get pressed. I don't you think that people just put

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Speaker 1: And then also if people are going to do the

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I was thinking, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Sandoval had never removed it. Of course he didn't.

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Speaker 3: He's too busy making out with his girlfriend. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: When all this removing from the you know, from the bio,

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Speaker 3: What if you just you should remove it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you remove it, people are going to

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Speaker 3: I hated her anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then people are going to be like, what reason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like it's just all of it. It's a lot for

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Speaker 3: In the right.

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Speaker 1: But what will you do when you get the boot?

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Speaker 1: Because your Instagram name says I know OC. I mean

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Speaker 2: Know it is a problem. I thought every year I've

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Speaker 2: I gotta change that Instagram. I'll just change it to

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Speaker 2: rho ce No more.

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Speaker 3: Emily Simpson. I mean you really.

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Speaker 1: Committed there with the full Instagram now, I did, because

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Speaker 1: you know what, Emily Simpson is so common.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't There was no like, I could not find

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Speaker 2: any option. There was no like Emily Simpson one, two, three, ABC.

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Speaker 3: They were all gone.

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Speaker 1: So you're like, I'm gonna just stake this claim that

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Speaker 1: hopefully there's never another Emily Simpson on Real Housewives exactly. Well,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your commitment there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: Vpr's Tom Sandival shuts down split rumors by posting and

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Speaker 2: It was an US article. Tom Sandoval didn't just tell

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Speaker 2: vander Pumperroles fans that he's still dating Victoria Lee Robinson.

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Speaker 2: He showed them as well. Sandoval took to Instagram stories

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, May eleventh to share a photo of the

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Speaker 2: couple in a photo booth. The first snap showed Sandval

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Speaker 2: Sandoval pretending to bite Robinson's breast. Very classy.

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Speaker 1: I could have done without it, to be like I,

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Speaker 1: you know what, to get press. I would have been fine.

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Speaker 1: Which is the allure that maybe they broke up or

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Speaker 1: they didn't. I don't need to see proof of you

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Speaker 1: biting said significant others breast to prove it. But that's

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Speaker 1: just me. Oh, this is kind of exciting. The drunk

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Speaker 1: guy from the vander Pump Rule season eleven was not well,

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Speaker 1: this is what the kids say, was not a randown.

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Speaker 3: I keep reading this. There's a lot of a lot

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Speaker 3: of theories out there.

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Speaker 1: This nameless man and I said this. I don't know

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Speaker 1: I said it to you on text. I recognize that guy,

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Speaker 1: like I have either met him before or been in

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Speaker 1: the same place, Like I never I always forget a name.

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Speaker 1: I never forget a face, and I've seen that face.

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Speaker 1: But this nameless man was taking pictures of all Tom's friends,

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Speaker 1: Kyle chan I mean, we've just seen him throughout. But

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Speaker 1: what fans are speculating is that the production team or

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Speaker 1: Sam of All himself planned the entire act so Sandoval

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. What do you think? I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that he necessarily. I think

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Speaker 1: like let's have fun, let's do the reunion, and the

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Speaker 1: guy like took it at it seriously. Yes, But what

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Speaker 1: who's this guy? How did they not recognize the guy?

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Speaker 1: But I did so.

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Speaker 3: Well, you never know with you, I don't know you get.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you know what I saw.

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Speaker 2: I did see a meme or something on Instagram where

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Speaker 1: I was that his jacket or Brox jacket?

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Speaker 2: Well, no, no, it was his jacket. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: So I do think that you are onto something that

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Speaker 1: I'm going to just say this, even if it's a

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Speaker 1: Pump Rules, I don't. I don't really like a guy

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Speaker 1: you be into Shane in a gold suit jacket.

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Speaker 2: I can't picture Shane and anything but a Van sweatshirt,

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Speaker 2: So like, going from a Van sweatshirt to a gold

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think man Shannon both wore this Alice

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Speaker 1: I still look at my closet and I'm like, it's

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Speaker 2: It's okay, all right because I don't then I don't

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Speaker 2: feel badly because I did not watch the uncut version.

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Speaker 1: So but now, do you watch the circumcised version I watched.

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Speaker 3: I watched the circumcised version.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So it starts out Katie and Ariana confidently

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Speaker 1: say that their standard shop will be open when this

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Speaker 1: reunion airs, but there's something about being one week off.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem because I mean his air and the

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Speaker 2: There is a sign out front. I had someone that

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Speaker 1: So there is a sign.

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Speaker 2: There is a sign, but they also sent me they

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Speaker 2: looks like it still doesn't look ready to open. It

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Speaker 2: looks like there's a lot of just kind of debris about.

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Speaker 2: But you know, that's something that maybe could be just quick,

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Speaker 2: you know, cleaned up quickly.

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Speaker 1: So okay, I love debris about.

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Speaker 3: There's a debris about. There's like some debris laying around.

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Speaker 3: But there's debris.

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Speaker 1: About, debris about in my life from day to day.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna have to do a taste test. It's

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Speaker 1: Jack still lived with Brittany after cheating on her, Sandoval

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Speaker 1: told him he needed to move out, and he Sandoval

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Speaker 1: Weren't apologetic last year. I mean, they it really didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: She's already on the show.

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Speaker 1: So that's where I actually thought it wasn't necessarily grooming

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Speaker 1: Oh that makes me feel like right. But then everyone

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Speaker 2: I mean that's when you know it's severely just wrong

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Speaker 2: you're having conversations, you can say all day long that

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00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: this is in confidence. You can ask the other person.

441
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: But I really feel like you are taking that risk.

442
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: Do you think you should be taking that risk. Do

443
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: you think you would think that you were taking that

444
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: risk if you were in a relationship with that person

445
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: for ten years.

446
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that you should have that mindset.

447
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: I think whatever you're saying to someone that you're in

448
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: a committed relationship with that you've been in for ten years. Like,

449
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 2: if I have conversations with Shane, you know, offline, I

450
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 2: don't expect him to bring it up when we're filming.

451
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: I don't don't expect him to be like, well, last

452
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: night in bed, you said, like I trust that man.

453
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

454
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: So I do understand how him bringing up that conversation

455
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: later was such a breach of a duty that he

456
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 2: had to her as a partner at that time. I

457
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: understand why he did it because I think he was

458
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: trying to explain why it was difficult for him to

459
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: just walk away or to just break up with her.

460
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: So I think that he felt the need for himself

461
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 2: to say that to expand. But there are times when,

462
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 2: no matter what the explanation is, you just keep your

463
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: mouth shut because you owe a duty to someone.

464
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And almost wasn't necessary to go to that length.

465
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: He could have said, you know, now I'm acting like

466
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: Sandoval's pr person, like Laala was. But he could have said,

467
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: you know, Arianna repeatedly shared some of her mental health

468
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: struggles that would you know involve were involved when it

469
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: came to us breaking up, and I felt so much

470
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: guilt and panic that it was too hard for me

471
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: to walk away. Like he didn't have to spell it

472
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: out in the way that he did.

473
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess the conversation could have been

474
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: just there are more issues and deeper rooted issues that

475
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 2: you're unaware of that I'm not comfortable talking about. But

476
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: it wasn't that easy, Like I couldn't just.

477
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: Walk away or I was scared to leave.

478
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

479
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: Then he gets into trying to explain his comparison between

480
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: Scandival and George Floyd, and la La agrees that Scannival

481
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: is a joke compared to what else is happening in

482
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: the world. At this point, I'm I'm starting to get

483
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 1: a little I see Lalla almost like stepping into protection

484
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: of Sandamal, which I don't know is protection of the

485
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: television show or protection of him, because at some point,

486
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: I forget who says it. One of them says, for

487
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: the sake of the show, can you please quit talking

488
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: to people?

489
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who was that?

490
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: I remember that was Laala as well.

491
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: Did she say it to Tom? Yeah, yeah, you know,

492
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: it's probably.

493
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like Lala says intelligent things, and

494
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: I feel like she is very much a voice of reason,

495
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: and I feel like she was trying to clarify what

496
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: Sandoval meant because it was so ridiculous what he said

497
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 2: that I think that in order to save the show

498
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: in general face that she had to step in and

499
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: kind of expand that he wasn't trying to compare himself

500
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: to these people per se. It was more of why

501
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: is this getting the same amount of attention on a

502
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: global scale when these are real issues and this is

503
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: just a reality show, Like why are they on the

504
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: same level globally?

505
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: But then Katie made such a good point. She's like,

506
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily what I forget exactly what she said,

507
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: but it's not necessarily your intent of what impact, it's

508
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: the impact. And I think that really, I mean, that's

509
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: the key of clickmate. I mean the amount of times

510
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: that I could assume something and then I read the

511
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: article and I'm like, that's not what it freaking said.

512
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: You know all of it well, And the problem is

513
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: is that we're a clickbait society. So you can put

514
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: anything into two sentences and people will read those two

515
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: sentences and then regurt to take that information over and

516
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: over and over as truth without actually reading the meat

517
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: of the article. And that's a lot of the problem

518
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: in society.

519
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: And also just like essentially, Tom, quit trying to get

520
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: your ass canceled so we can keep a show going,

521
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: Like that's why.

522
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: She's think, I think that's basically you could just boil

523
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: it down to that, that's what that's.

524
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: That's surely shut up.

525
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: Then Lala gets emotional talking about Ocean and the custody

526
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: battle between herself and Randall She confirms baby number two

527
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: will not have a similar name to Ocean, and Tom says,

528
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: what about drive like Ocean Drive?

529
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: I really want it again, Tom.

530
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: Then Lala says more men are interested in her now

531
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: that she's pregnant. We see some of the ways that

532
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: like Lisa vander Pump is like Duck can't wrap her

533
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: head around any of this. She uses words like bitter

534
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: you will find someone. She's very old school in the

535
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: way that she looks at it, like I don't even

536
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: think it crossed her mind that like somebody would have

537
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: sex with a pregnant person.

538
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, she looked appalled, like she was like, oh, I

539
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: was like, come.

540
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 3: On, Lisa, let's go.

541
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are in twenty twenty four and.

542
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: You Lala's hot and she's single, so yeah whatever.

543
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, she couldn't. She's and I think that's the struggle.

544
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: You can see where she gets caught and like her

545
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: old thinking and she's unable to like pivot. Then Sheena

546
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: addresses her postpartum ocd uh. She says she lives in

547
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: her comments and she saw the way that Brock and

548
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: Laala look at each other and that scares her. Then

549
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: Lala calls them a throuple. I was like, well, now

550
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: that scares me.

551
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: It looked odd, a little awkward.

552
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: Maybe just my paranoia that I'm like, I don't know.

553
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: I saw these like googly.

554
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: Eye, googly eyes, sparkly eyes.

555
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: Schwartz was giving her those, Lalla those same eyes.

556
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was when they were talking about flirting. But

557
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: I thought, but someone made the reference. They said, well,

558
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: I feel like it's more of Schwartz flirting with Laala,

559
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: and definitely when they did the flashbacks, he's always making

560
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: some kind of flirtatious comment towards her.

561
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: Well, then I was confused about something else because then

562
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: Arianna says something along the lines of, oh, that could

563
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: be fun, And I was like, really in regards to

564
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: in regards to Schwartz and Laala hooking up?

565
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: Oh did she she said that that could be fun?

566
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like that could be interesting or that could

567
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: be fun something like that. And I was like, hold up,

568
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: how could in what world could.

569
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: That be fun?

570
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: Knowing what we know now.

571
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: Right, And isn't that kind of a I don't know,

572
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: like a code violation there isn't she supposed to be like,

573
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: you know, girl code with Katie?

574
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but speaking of girl code. We can't forget, we

575
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: can't go back in time when Laala may have you know,

576
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: there was some action going on in the backseat of

577
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: the car with her and Ariana. So the idea of this,

578
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: all of the relationships being open, seem plausible.

579
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: Disability flu fill.

580
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: It if you will. Oh my gosh, this part was sad.

581
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: I got emotional too. Brock starts to cry talking about

582
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: his kids.

583
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: I cried too. I cried.

584
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: I was actually thinking about you in that moment, and

585
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: I had a question for you because I know that

586
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: you've talked about your relationship with your family, and do

587
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: you feel that when it comes to you, know, Brock says,

588
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: something you know, I've been paying since whatever the beginning

589
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, And something my EXAs said is the

590
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: kids have not brought up that they want to have

591
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 1: a relationship with you. Do you think that is something

592
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: kids do bring up or do you think that's something

593
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: the parenting figure needs to foster if they're interested in that.

594
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting that you asked me this, because honestly,

595
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: if you didn't ask me, I was going to talk

596
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: about this anyway, because I had a very strong reaction

597
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: to what he said, so, I mean, if you follow

598
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: real housewives or whatever.

599
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: I don't really have a relationship with my dad.

600
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: He left when I was very young, six and I

601
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: did not see him much growing up. And I remember

602
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: when I turned eighteen, my dad said something to me

603
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: to the effect of, oh, well, now you're eighteen, you're

604
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: an adult, so if you want to see me, you

605
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: know where I live. And I remember thinking, are you

606
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: kidding me? Like the burden as a child shouldn't be

607
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: on me. And that's all I kept thinking about when

608
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: he said that, was I understand where he's coming from. Maybe,

609
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, the kids won't.

610
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: They need to see him make an effort. So, Brock,

611
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. You probably don't listen, but if you are,

612
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: if someone could forward this to him, my advice would

613
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: be from a child who grew up without a dad

614
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: around that as a child, we want someone to make

615
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: the effort. We want someone to come forward, even if

616
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: we're not receptive. He still needs to make the effort.

617
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: He still needs to try, He still needs to reach out.

618
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: He still needs to say, Hey, maybe you're not ready,

619
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: but I'm here when you are. You know, he needs

620
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: to make that effort and not just said great effort

621
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: is like cars texts, Hey, just thinking about you, whenever

622
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: you're ready to talk. I'm here, Hey, I would love

623
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: to see you. I would love to be around. Let

624
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: me know when you're available, let me know when you're ready.

625
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: Like he has to do that because a child's form

626
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: a thought process of when they're feeling like they've been

627
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: rejected in some way, whether that's the case or not,

628
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: is only going to grow as the years come. So

629
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's just magically going to change. If

630
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't change something, and then if he doesn't try

631
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: to build and foster something more with Courtney where she

632
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: feels comfortable sharing with the kids. Your dad is here

633
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: and he loves you, and he wants to see you,

634
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: whether you want to see them or not.

635
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and kids don't know.

636
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: I mean, if kids are going to say, well, no,

637
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to see him because they don't have

638
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: that relationship, they're just going to go with whatever's comfortable.

639
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: He has to put himself out there and make himself uncomfortable.

640
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean Katie showed a lot in this.

641
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: In this portion, she says she takes back her words

642
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: from years ago because she recognizes how great of a

643
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: dad he is. Katie showed right here what we call

644
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: growth and accountability. She says, like, I regret saying that,

645
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I realize what what happened.

646
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: And then Brock.

647
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: Actually says something in response along the lines of like

648
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: actions have consequences. That's what he said, and and just

649
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: the fact that he said it that outright was like,

650
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: I realize I've.

651
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: Done absolutely, but I did.

652
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: I did appreciate what Katie said, and I do know

653
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: that she comes off harsh sometimes, but I do feel

654
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: as if when she comes off harsh and then later

655
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: she is wrong or she regrets what she said, she's

656
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: always one to own it and apologize. And I think

657
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: that's that's what makes someone good on TV. It's the

658
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: growth that you just said, it's the accountability.

659
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, then we get to Ariana doesn't want to put

660
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: herself on hold while she's navigating through her healing process.

661
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: That's why she sees no problem with dating Dan. The

662
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: entire thing between Dan, the conversation about Dan versus Allie

663
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: and I, honest none of it really is of interest

664
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: to me.

665
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't really understand what the comparison was.

666
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Then we get into Santoval and his new girlfriend and

667
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: then James being like, there's Leonardo wallpaper and all of

668
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: this stuff. I'm like and then Ariana being like, I

669
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: picked the wallpaper all ky. I was like, this is

670
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: a lot for me to process.

671
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: But that's her takeaway. Yeah, like that was my that's

672
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 3: her takeaway.

673
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: When it comes to the house, She's like, that's I

674
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: picked that damn wallpaper out.

675
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: Just wander everybody.

676
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: Did this ship years ago that my ex partner was

677
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: going to be with Leonardo Dicapriosa. But I clocked that.

678
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: I also clogged Tom short smile when he saw that

679
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: something about her had opening trouble. He was like this.

680
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: I was like, stop butter poker face, right. But yeah.

681
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: Then they talk about how Pump is closed and Lisa

682
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: believes a business that was running for ten years is successful.

683
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: Arianna makes a snide comment asking really, and then.

684
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: We see didn't.

685
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: I thought that was so crappy of her to do, though,

686
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if it was editing.

687
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you could have started it or that.

688
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, know that Arianna said that, I mean she's opening

689
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: a business. It's taken I mean the business still isn't

690
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: open yet. You're talking about someone that did run a

691
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: successful business for ten years, and then she makes that comment,

692
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: like really, I don't know. I just thought it was

693
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: off putting. I thought it was distasteful.

694
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was distasteful in both regards because

695
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: I thought that what Arianna said was a little bit eh.

696
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: And then also the way that Lisa really doubles down

697
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: against something about her. Clearly, I don't know, this may

698
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: be the wrong word, but there's either some animosity between

699
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: the two or jealousy or whatever. It is, like they

700
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: feel some kind of way about each other and it's

701
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: not being spoken about, so it's being put through their businesses.

702
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: Okay, do you think it's because well, Penny was recommended

703
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: to them by Lisa, right, yeah, yeah, so maybe the

704
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: issues with Penny are are, you know, coming like Lisa

705
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: doesn't like their way they're treating Penny or something.

706
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: You know.

707
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

708
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: I think there's I think it's a messier than we know.

709
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's there's a they said on the union, there's

710
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: a lawsuit involved, so clearly shit's hitting the fan. The

711
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: other thing I didn't really understand is when they say

712
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Schworts and we didn't see Shorts and Sandy's this season

713
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: because the partner didn't want any filming in there. I'm like, listen, Greg,

714
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: why and why in the world would you get into

715
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: business with two reality television people and not want to

716
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: even if shit hit the fan and you didn't realize it,

717
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: but like, why would you Why would you even get

718
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: into that business? In thet it would be like me saying, like, oh,

719
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: why Schwartz and Sandoval moving in together? Like it clearly

720
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: you know what you're getting yourself into in that.

721
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: Well, you know.

722
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, I think he knew what he

723
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: was getting into when it was helpful and beneficial because

724
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: they're on a show and people are coming in and

725
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: people are there because of the show. But then I

726
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: think he could never anticipate scandabal and the backlash that

727
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: came from that, because I do know, didn't the business suffer,

728
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: weren't people writing horrible reviews on Yelp and like the

729
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: business was struggling and everyone was talking negatively, And so

730
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: I think that's what that guy's probably traumatized.

731
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

732
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: Were you surprised that Ali wasn't out there from the beginning.

733
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: No, because I don't really I don't really think of

734
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: Ali as a main vander Pumperle's person.

735
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: So I Rock was out there, but I guess he

736
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: has a storyline more than the tarity.

737
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: I don't well, I felt like Brock was involved a

738
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: lot more. I felt like Ali's just more of a

739
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: good sidekick. I do think bro was involved in a

740
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: lot of the conversations and had a lot of opinions

741
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: about things.

742
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's true. Then Ariana admits she didn't watch

743
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: this season at all, which gets some surprised looks from

744
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: Lisa and the cast members. I'm like, Lisa, this is

745
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: your line. Why do you look surprised right now? This

746
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: is your favorite thing to say. But I can. When

747
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: she said it, I kind of was like, all right,

748
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: that makes sense to me. But then it gets this

749
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: is where things take a turn. Apparently, Katie and Lala's

750
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: fighting stems from a DM Katie sent to Lalla that read,

751
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: get rid of your lawyers because what you need is

752
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: a fucking therapist. You're a fucking clown.

753
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: I wanted to deceive receipts of that, didn't you.

754
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

755
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: I was like waiting for them to flash the DM

756
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: or something up because I really wanted to see what.

757
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: It said, but neither of them denied it neither you know,

758
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: you know what exists.

759
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: That's why I thought they would have actually shown it,

760
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: because it's not like anyone was saying no, I didn't

761
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: send that, that's not what I said. But I really

762
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: wanted to see what it was said exactly.

763
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: But I think the reason it wasn't shown is it

764
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: probably breaks too many fourth walls.

765
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 3: You mean there was other conversations.

766
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: I was another conversation in there that's too much production

767
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: y and they were like, both of them are admitting it.

768
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: There's no reason to show the screenshot because it's only

769
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: going to expose how both of them were trying to

770
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: avoid this.

771
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you a question, because I don't

772
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: maybe you know more what is the background on this DM,

773
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: like what.

774
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: Led to it?

775
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: I don't actually know.

776
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: I needed more context. I guess this is what I'm saying.

777
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: I needed more context to understand. I felt like that

778
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: conversation between Katie and Laala at the reunion, I feel

779
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, it just started and they

780
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: were talking about a DM, and then they're talking about

781
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: what the DM said, and I felt like there was

782
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: a lack of context.

783
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: Clearly there's a moment that Laala out some of the

784
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: things that Katie is allegedly said to her, how Arianna

785
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: abandoned her at the sandwich shop and wasn't up to

786
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: date on rent, and then the two girls had a

787
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: phone call where allegedly Katie threatened, if you with my business,

788
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to with yours, Lala wishes. She responded by saying,

789
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: something about her is nothing about her, because Katie doesn't

790
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: even have a business yet, and Lala's business helped support

791
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: her child. Like, all of this is getting lost a

792
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: little bit. Do I think on all reality shows you

793
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: have off camera conversations where you talked shit about people, Yeah,

794
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: as they will talk shit in general. Do you think

795
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: Laala crossed a line by sharing this private conversation.

796
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: No, I don't, And that's just coming from someone that's

797
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: on a reality show that has had conversations that then

798
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: I was asked about and then I had to talk

799
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: about them. I mean, if you think about all the

800
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: conversations last year that revolved Shannon and things that she

801
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: told us offline, off you know, off camera, but then

802
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: you know the heart of really her story and what

803
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: was going on had to do with her relationship with John,

804
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: So then I did have to talk about it.

805
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 3: I don't know.

806
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like Laala feels like she had

807
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: these conversations and Katie told her these things and invested

808
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: this information with her, and she was truthful about how

809
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: she felt about Arianna, and then they pick up the

810
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: cameras and then she doesn't act that way.

811
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: So do you think Lala was extra ticked? Because Lala

812
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: was exposed at the finale about the things that she

813
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: was saying about Ariana that were really show related, not

814
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: personal about that, but like about their livelihood, and Katie

815
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: got off scott free, and so this was her way

816
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: of kind of sticking it to her.

817
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: Probably, I'm sure there were some of that too.

818
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like like, well, like, I shouldn't be

819
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: the only one getting this backlash. I'm not the only

820
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: one that felt this way. You did too, You're just

821
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: not saying it. I'm saying it.

822
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, But and I normally always see Laala's you know,

823
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: I love Laala. She's a friend of mine. I love her.

824
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: I think she's well spoken most of the time. I

825
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: think she makes good points. I do think she crossed

826
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot here. I wish you would have said, Katie,

827
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: now is your chance to say all the things you

828
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: said to me off camera about Ariana, because you got

829
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: me to a position where I was worked up. I

830
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: was on behalf of all of us speaking out and

831
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: then you never did it. So it makes me solely

832
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: look like the asshole. But she didn't say that. She

833
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: just fully out of the situation. And then you see

834
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: Katie's kind of like.

835
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: Shit, I did say that.

836
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Katie doesn't say she didn't say it, but

837
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: then Katie does post on her Instagram. I'm someone who

838
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: has suffered from imposter syndrome for as long as I

839
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: have known myself, Hence why I was apprehensive about opening

840
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: the sandwich shop on my own. So when Ariana was

841
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: going through not only a world of hurt, but also

842
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: getting some amazing opportunities that changed a lot of things

843
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: during a pivotal time, I was extremely sensitive to what

844
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: she was going through, but also very supportive. Was also

845
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: dealing with the immense and security about what I could

846
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: take on and simply didn't want to put that on her.

847
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: I had an emotional response that didn't feel appropriate bringing

848
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: to her front door. So I went to where it

849
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: felt safe or where I thought it was safe until

850
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: I find the appropriate conversation to have with Ariana, which

851
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: of course I did, and we have had plenty since.

852
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: Well, this is a dig at La La.

853
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, clear clearly.

854
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 2: I mean I think she says it well, it's very

855
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: articulate and it makes sense. She was saying like, I

856
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: wasn't comfortable going to Ariana. She had a lot on

857
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: her plate, so I vented to someone else. So I

858
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: thought I could trust Clearly I couldn't trust her. You know,

859
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I see both sides. I see Katie's viewpoints.

860
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: She thought she could trust La La. But then I understand,

861
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: you're on a show. I do think that when you

862
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: tell someone you're on a show with. I mean, were

863
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: there other people she could have gone to that aren't

864
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: on the same show.

865
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: Well, I think also what's being implied is that Katie

866
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: wasn't being real on camera.

867
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 3: Yes, and absolutely, And.

868
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: I think that is always something that bugs the rest

869
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: of the cast members when they are sharing their true

870
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: emotions on camera and somebody is not see I'm.

871
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: One of those that's bugged. I get bugged because I

872
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: say things on camera.

873
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, do I think that everybody? I mean, I completely

874
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: get what Katie's saying. Also, like, I still love and

875
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: care about my friend Ariana, but in the moment, I

876
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: got upset by something and I vented to a friend.

877
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: Have I done that before? Yes? But nine times out

878
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: of tend it's something.

879
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: That I also am comfortable saying to their face, right,

880
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: Which is I get comfortable saying to their face. I'm

881
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: just prepping myself to feel comfortable enough to say it

882
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: to their face.

883
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: Right, And if you're telling someone that you're on a

884
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: cast with, I feel like, in my mind, I always think,

885
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: am I comfortable? Because there's the possibility that this comes

886
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: up later?

887
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but this is where we see the real divide,

888
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: And I wonder if that divide had started once Laala

889
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: and Sena became close, because clearly Sena and Katie do

890
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: not have that immense love for one another. But then

891
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: coming up in part two, we see that Ali and

892
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Joe join the reunion and Sandoval knows some things but

893
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: is deciding to keep his mouth shut, and we see

894
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: Ariana and Laala get into it.

895
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: What does Sandoval?

896
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: No? No, no, But would you feel the same way.

897
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: If you were Katie and Ariana left to New York

898
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: for Broadway without notice.

899
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: I would.

900
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: I think Katie's frustration with Arianna is reasonable. I mean,

901
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: she probably feels like they're supposed to open this business together.

902
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: It's clearly much more difficult than they anticipated. Ariana is

903
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: running off with all these opportunities. I don't know about

904
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: the rent situation, Like they didn't really clarify that was

905
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: she not paying rent?

906
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: Was she paying rent?

907
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: No one really spoke up, So I don't know about that,

908
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: but I'm sure she I'm sure Katie was severely frustrated

909
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: in the moment, thinking she just took off on all

910
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: the opportunities and I'm here trying to figure this out,

911
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: left holding the bat right and I'm paying the rent,

912
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to figure out this business, and you know,

913
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: she's nowhere around.

914
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: So I get it.

915
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure her frustration was probably more than

916
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: we even realize.

917
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: What is imposter syndrome, For example.

918
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Like I'll be very self deprecating in a moment to

919
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: give the illusion that I'm okay with handling something, you

920
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

921
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's when you feel like you don't actually belong

922
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: where you are and yeah, oh, like you're.

923
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 3: An impostor in a certain Yeah.

924
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: So that's why if you're going to say, like, I

925
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: don't give a blah blah blah, most of the time,

926
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: you will give a little bit of a fat yeah.

927
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: But that's your impostor syndrome coming for I don't know.

928
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So do you think that's why she has such

929
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: a stoic I always think of her as very stoic,

930
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: like a very stoic, hard personality, because she's suffering from

931
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: imposter syndrome.

932
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it makes sense.

933
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: And she's also protect probably protecting herself and from years

934
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: of being in a dysfunctional relationship and on a television

935
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: show where everything you do gets picked apart. I think

936
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: you know that's what happens. But I do think it's

937
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: going to get even more heated as it continues. Let's

938
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: take a quick break and then go to the Valley

939
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: episode nine. We are back to talk about episode nine.

940
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: I don't really even know that there's that much we

941
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: really need to fully recap. We can just do this

942
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: in like a couple like, but.

943
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: You want to do bullet points, Okay, bullet points.

944
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: One. Jesse saying that he goes into every situation thinking

945
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: how can I manipulate this?

946
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't narcissism.

947
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, but I need to know if

948
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: Jesse got his beanie before or after the ayahuasca.

949
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that beanie was killing me. I was like,

950
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: please take it off. I can't even take you seriously.

951
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: It's like talking about like deep meditation and how he's

952
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: a changed person. And then he tries to kiss Michelle

953
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: and she's clearly not having it. But I'm like, just

954
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 2: take the beanie off, Yeah, get it off.

955
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: They talk about Zach crying about not being invited to

956
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: Big Bear. Janet has her friends over to pack for

957
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: her baby moon, even though they're not invited on her

958
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 1: baby moon.

959
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: I find, Yeah, I don't know, but I thought the

960
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: one friend was amusing though, the spy.

961
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: And then when she calls Zack and he's like, you're

962
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: one friend with the pink Yeah, the pink boots.

963
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: Pink boots was not Pink boots was not rogue at all.

964
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: Pink boots was like so obvious.

965
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: But also then Janet like, let's talk for a second

966
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: about entitlement. You should not be entitled to kick people

967
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: off of a work trip, and like, why why is

968
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: Janet thinking she's casting this entire show and in charge

969
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: of food comes? And who goes like, did I need

970
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: Zach to be there? No? Not really if I'm being honest,

971
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: But I also didn't need a lot of other things

972
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: to happen on that trip. But like, it's not really

973
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: up to her. That baby moon was not about a

974
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: baby moon. You weren't even spending time with your significant other.

975
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: You're off on like a booie ride with all the girls.

976
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: Right, And also, I mean, let's just be honest, how

977
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 2: much more interesting would it have been with Kristin and Luke?

978
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Kristen's a mess.

979
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: We would have appreciated Kristin and Luke Zach. I think

980
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: Zach wasn't bummed because not because he wanted to be

981
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 1: there at the baby moon, but he's like, that's good

982
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: screener time.

983
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

984
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Zach, Zach's not getting the camera

985
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: time and he thought he was going to Does he

986
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: really want to go on a couple's baby moon?

987
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: No?

988
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: But he's like, I need every second to show off

989
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: my hair on the show, and I need it to

990
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: be in Big Bear. But then Kristin and Luke talking

991
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: about being at a crossroads in the group. Do they

992
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: move forward? Do they move away? They're not. Kristin's not

993
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 1: moving away. This is going to come back around, don't

994
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: you think?

995
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 3: Well it has to. I mean, come on, you have

996
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: to move forward. That's your job.

997
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: Do your job, move forward and quit letting others figure

998
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: out this situation. And for the like, just take notes,

999
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: Just jot down some notes so you get things right

1000
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: when you explain them.

1001
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, get your note cards ready, Kristen, come on, Yeah,

1002
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 2: have Louke caulled up Q cards in the back.

1003
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, write it like big.

1004
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: Luc could just wear it on his T shirt like

1005
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: the other slogans. Yeah, then they're at the Big Bear house.

1006
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: Janet gives Jacks the T shirt of him drowning. Jesse

1007
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: brings a suit case full of champagne. I do agree

1008
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: with Jesse. When people say they have everything, they don't

1009
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: always have everything.

1010
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well stocked does not mean well stocked.

1011
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: No, But then they still didn't have all the things

1012
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: they needed for the beach. They didn't have beers. They

1013
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: only had straight like tequila and vodka. Which did not

1014
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: vode well for the entire group.

1015
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: No, especially Jesse. He was a mess on that beach.

1016
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: He was just like like out of control. He's like

1017
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 2: jumping on the chairs and like trying to strangle out

1018
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: what's Nia's husband's name, Danny, Danny, and like that he

1019
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: smacked Michelle in the face.

1020
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean all of it.

1021
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean even before they even get to the beach

1022
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: where Jane it's like you have to put twenty dollars

1023
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: in a jar every time you make a mistake yourself

1024
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: as the main character. Like stop, you're talking about a

1025
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: main character on the show. Of course you're going to

1026
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: talk about it, and like I would say it just

1027
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: so I could get somebody else rich at this point,

1028
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, you're going to talk about Kristin not

1029
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: being there, right, Why even say that? I hate when

1030
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: people do that.

1031
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, Jan, I still am

1032
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 2: confused how Jane manages to kind of just slip by

1033
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 2: even though she really is the one who is the

1034
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: heart of all the gossip.

1035
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: It's just Kristen is just the bad messenger.

1036
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: Kristen's a bad messenger, and we see in her couple's

1037
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: therapy counseling. She doesn't really want to talk about the

1038
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: hard things.

1039
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: I think she is.

1040
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: I know this is gonna sound weird. I think she's

1041
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: actually a people pleaser, but when it comes to people pleasing,

1042
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: it's she's trying to people please, like production or whatever

1043
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: it is, to stay on the show. So she says

1044
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: shit she doesn't really want to say, but she says

1045
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: it anyway, and then she gets herself into trouble and

1046
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: then she doesn't know how to talk away out of

1047
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: it because she doesn't know how to like justify it

1048
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: because she does makes sense naturally want to do it.

1049
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: Also, can we just talk about how the couple's therapy,

1050
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: Like these two I like Luke and I like Chris,

1051
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: and I actually even kind of like them together. But

1052
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: the fact that they just have fundamental differences in just

1053
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: basic relationship things.

1054
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: Like where you're going to live, the financial.

1055
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: Financial things like you guys are talking about bringing a

1056
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: child into the world and he's adamant about not living

1057
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 2: in la and you're adamant that you would never live

1058
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: in the backwoods of Colorado.

1059
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 3: So how is this going to work? Explain that to me.

1060
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: I hate to be the one to give the cliff notes.

1061
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 3: But it's not it is not exactly.

1062
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: This is without any of these conversations, it is impossible

1063
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: to move forward, and having to have these conversations once

1064
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: you're already pregnant is even a worse plan.

1065
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 3: So okay, and what does what does Luke do for

1066
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: a living? Do we know? Did I miss that somewhere?

1067
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't.

1068
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he has like a farm or something,

1069
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: but he's not on his farm, so I don't know.

1070
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: I know he likes to fish and that makes him happy.

1071
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: I know they met at a wedding.

1072
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 3: But financially does he does he miss the valley?

1073
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, well I think okay, I mean, if you

1074
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: can leave for a full summer, yeah, it's probably not

1075
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: a regular nine to five or that you got back

1076
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: at home. Right, But then we're at the beach. The

1077
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: beach is a shit show. I wouldn't want to be there.

1078
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: Nobody would want to be there. Brittany watches videos of

1079
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: Cruse at swim class where he's crying and then Jack

1080
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: gets upset and like kind of loses it. It's sad

1081
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: to watch.

1082
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 3: That's hard to watch.

1083
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: It's that he's so aggressive, Like I even I can

1084
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: even give him the benefit of the doubt and understand

1085
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: his point where it's like, hey, maybe this isn't the

1086
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: best time.

1087
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: We're at the beach trying to have fun.

1088
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: You're watching videos of the kid crying at a swim

1089
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: class that he clearly doesn't want to be at. But

1090
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: like the grabbing the phone and the yelling at her,

1091
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 2: it's like, can you just take it down a notch?

1092
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: Does he not realize that his screaming at her is

1093
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: worse than actually hearing the kid crying.

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00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: No, that's where he's so unaware. Jack's I just I

1095
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 2: can't with him.

1096
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes I could have done without Michelle and Jesse having

1097
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: the physical like play fight. We knew that wasn't going

1098
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: to end well. Then the guys are in the car

1099
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: and Danny asked Jesse if they're okay because the way

1100
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: Jesse was playing with him on the beach was aggressive.

1101
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: Jesse apologizes if Danny was offended, which we all know

1102
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: is not an apology, right, And then I'm still getting

1103
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 1: sad for Brittany in the car ride home because Britney's

1104
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: scared to say she's carsick. Clearly Brittany is not drunk

1105
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: at this time. She's scared to admit you know that

1106
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: she's not feeling well, And so we see when they

1107
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: go in the house like tensions are high. Things are already

1108
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: going on. But then Jax pulls Michelle aside to get

1109
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: the Kristin information off his chest. He says, he tells

1110
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: her a few months ago, after a girls' night at

1111
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: his house, he came home and Kristin told him that

1112
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: Michelle was texting a guy on the side. Then this

1113
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: is not even Jack's trying to spread this information.

1114
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: Can I let me ask a question to clarify this

1115
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: girl's night that he's referring to. This wasn't something that

1116
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: was on camera. Correct, No, off camera, So this is

1117
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: something that happened before they started filming.

1118
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 3: Correct in my interpretation, right, That's the way I interpret

1119
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: it as well.

1120
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: Okay, But then Michelle's response to this is like it's

1121
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: in pieces. But she's like, I was texting a celebrity.

1122
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: And then she's like, He's like, well, Michelle, Michelle, Kristen

1123
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: did say that you were like sending photos and then

1124
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: she's like, I was sending sexy pictures. I'm like, what

1125
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: is happening. It feels like right out of like the

1126
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: ending of the Jinx, only Michelle is just out here

1127
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: admitting things on camera for in her arms.

1128
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: Okay, here was my question though, because the way it

1129
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: was so choppy. Was it choppy because that's just her personality,

1130
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: She has a choppy personality, or was it choppy like

1131
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 2: that because they edited it that way. That's what I

1132
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: haven't understand.

1133
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for her into editing, but I think that's

1134
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: just how she talks.

1135
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: So it isn't just choppy editing. It's just her personality.

1136
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: It's just her delivery. And I don't wonder she is

1137
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: right longer with the celebrity Now, I see why she

1138
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: sends nude photos and not has actual conversations.

1139
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: Make sure she's like to just look.

1140
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: But I do think we are going to get more

1141
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: into this, and clearly we see in next week's episode

1142
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: the demise of multiple relationships from Brittany coming out because

1143
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: she's hearing Jack's talk shit about her to Jesse admitting

1144
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: that he thinks it's actually over with Michelle, no shit

1145
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: sherlock all the things.

1146
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: But and then I hope the actual celebrity name comes

1147
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: out at some point so that Teddy can sleep at

1148
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 2: night now, just.

1149
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 3: Do not gonna happen?

1150
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: Should I slide into Michelle's DMS and be like, I

1151
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: promise they'll never tell, but I am on this little

1152
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: podcast that'll just between us.

1153
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: Yes, and tell her to make sure she doesn't listen

1154
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 3: to it.

1155
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys, thanks for tuning in for

1156
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: another episode of Popping Off. We'll be back with you

1157
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: next week.

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: Wait, thanks for listening.

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00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: M mm hmmmm