Speaker 1: The numbers told the story the all He's done. Swando's
Speaker 1: idiots will believe in analytics.
Speaker 2: This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander good Monday morning.
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Speaker 1: Gil Alexander Kelly Bidlin guessing lines for a week number
Speaker 1: eight in the National Football League and exercise that with
Speaker 1: the exception of one week, this year has been rock solid,
Speaker 1: spectacular in terms of putting money in our pockets. How
Speaker 1: you doing, man, you're good doing. Just peache my friend PG.
Speaker 1: You know fighting over this? Uh you got the sniffles,
Speaker 1: Lily Bola thing I got going. I don't know any
Speaker 1: of what's happening that you're common cold. I think just
Speaker 1: running through me. Paint of the butt. What a time
Speaker 1: to be alive, What a time to be alive? What
Speaker 1: a day. Game six of the NLCS this afternoon, Philly's
Speaker 1: big favorites over the Diamondbacks to close it out just
Speaker 1: short of two dollars. And then Game seven, good God, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta sweat this out for my Phillies Astros exact
Speaker 1: a Phillies over the Astros, Astros and Rangers in a
Speaker 1: Game seven tonight in Houston. Where every team has won
Speaker 1: on the on the road. It is threatening to become
Speaker 1: the second postseason series ever, like the twenty nineteen World Series,
Speaker 1: where every team won on the road, the famous it
Speaker 1: is your obligation to bet the Washington Nationals World Series
Speaker 1: for old numbers game listeners. Anyway, we'll try to talk
Speaker 1: about that a little later on. But we got to
Speaker 1: guess some lines in the National Football Ye before we
Speaker 1: do Survivor update. For circa five hundred and five of
Speaker 1: the remaining seventeen hundred and eighty nine entries got knocked
Speaker 1: out Kelly yesterday, most of which on the Buffalo were
Speaker 1: really on the Buffalo Bills and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: and the La Rams, those three which were the second, third,
Speaker 1: and fourth most selected teams. The Seahawks had over a
Speaker 1: thousand of those entries, and they it was It was
Speaker 1: not the easiest thing in the world, but they get
Speaker 1: it done for survivor of folks. So what did we guess?
Speaker 1: We guessed forty percent. I think on Seahawks, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I guessed in the end, but it was
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot.
Speaker 3: I think we guessed combined between Seahawks and bills. We
Speaker 3: thought it would be like fifty percent or a little
Speaker 3: above fifty percent.
Speaker 1: Just what is it over sixty percent alone ended up
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks. Boy, here's the thing. Twelve hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty four entries were made. And yes, though it is
Speaker 1: finally below the number of entries that started in the
Speaker 1: first Circus Survivor, we finally gotten to that point. Twelve
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four left. The intrinsic value of each
Speaker 1: seven two hundred and seventeen dollars and twenty nine cents currently.
Speaker 1: But again, if you compare it to last year, which
Speaker 1: isn't the you know, the fairest comparison in the world.
Speaker 1: But do you know how many were there were we did?
Speaker 1: We start with nine two hundred and sixty seven this
Speaker 1: year and twelve hundred and eighty four left, which means
Speaker 1: that thirteen point eight six percent of the entries still remain.
Speaker 1: Last year, there were six one hundred and thirty three
Speaker 1: that started. Do you know how many were left after seven
Speaker 1: weeks at this point last year? Whatever you're guessing go
Speaker 1: lower one hundred and twenty five. Last year, ninety seven
Speaker 1: point ninety six percent ninety seven point nine six percent
Speaker 1: of all entries were knocked out at this point, and
Speaker 1: those one hundred and twenty five then had just this
Speaker 1: attrition battle till the end of the season. So this
Speaker 1: one hasn't even started. Yeah, that's when we started talking
Speaker 1: to Bob a lot. Last year. Bob got big yesterday.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, did we just get a tweet
Speaker 3: this weekend that he was summing pure again?
Speaker 1: Brady Cannon texted me, he goes, Oh, Bob's all in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, way, what are you talking about? Bob had
Speaker 1: all we're talking about crush him sports. Yeah, our buddy Luca,
Speaker 1: Bobby I used to affectionately call him Bob de Luca.
Speaker 1: I think he went all in on Tampa Bay yesterday
Speaker 1: with all ten of his entries. Oh may Bobby, so
Speaker 1: before we got a chance to have them on the show. Yeah, yeah, seriously,
Speaker 1: wait real quick.
Speaker 3: I know we got to get to the lines here,
Speaker 3: but the what you said, what was the survivor count
Speaker 3: this year?
Speaker 1: Nine thousand was three thousand more than last year? That
Speaker 1: is correct? Three thousand plus more than last year. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously we go we go up to ten ten entries,
Speaker 1: but think about that last ye last year, it was
Speaker 1: only one hundred and twenty five left out of six
Speaker 1: and thirty three. This year hasn't even started yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by comparison, all right, this, I mean, I just let
Speaker 1: me say this before we get we launched into this.
Speaker 1: For those who are like, what's the guessing lines, I'm
Speaker 1: in a cocoon. I don't know the lines. Every week
Speaker 1: we do this the instincts, with the exception of that
Speaker 1: one week a couple of weeks ago where we're just
Speaker 1: sucked on everything. But this is a great week. What
Speaker 1: were the instincts for me this past guessing lines? Philadelphia
Speaker 1: over Miami, Denver over Green Bay, Baltimore over Detroit. It
Speaker 1: all came through. I can't guarantee that's always gonna happen
Speaker 1: each and every week, but there's something about the first instinct,
Speaker 1: and you talk yourself in and out of it the
Speaker 1: rest of the week, and oftentimes your first instinct back
Speaker 1: on Monday was the best, and if you stick to it,
Speaker 1: it's it's good. Now. I don't no guarantee it's gonna
Speaker 1: happen again, but we'll try.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a great call by you in those
Speaker 3: games last week, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Three and one. By the way, that's the problem of
Speaker 1: the contest, though. You gotta you gotta put in five picks,
Speaker 1: So the fourth and the fifth or the fifth, whichever
Speaker 1: it is, how many the fifth pick always sucks all
Speaker 1: those things. You're like, I guess Tampa Bay. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like pulling teeth to make it, and then it's
Speaker 1: like a guaranteed loser. I feel like everybody. That's the
Speaker 1: difference between a contest and actual bets, right, the ones
Speaker 1: we have instincts on, we actually bet, but not five deep.
Speaker 1: All right, what's Thursday night? All right, let's fired off line.
Speaker 1: Guess you'll have no idea last night you already talked
Speaker 1: What are you say you already talked over lines yesterday?
Speaker 1: Oh well you did. Oh that's right, you're like seven
Speaker 1: hours ago. Yeah? What what show were you on the
Speaker 1: handle last night? That brown? What an? It was quite
Speaker 1: Did you guys talk about the field goal or are
Speaker 1: you not talking about that? No, we really didn't, and yeah,
Speaker 1: good point, we actually really didn't bet off think he
Speaker 1: asked me, was that audience doesn't. But yeah it doesn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, real quick on that. Yeah, my calf
Speaker 1: is disgusting right now. Just so black and Blue. We
Speaker 1: finally said, is there a way to do show and
Speaker 1: tell on this later? I gotta it's really gross, all right?
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Buccaneers at the Bills? How was it? Black
Speaker 1: and Blue? You didn't hit it? I don't know. You
Speaker 1: are an athletic specimen, that's what you are. What was
Speaker 1: the game? But Bucks and at Bills, Bucks at Bills,
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football, the three and three Bucks, the four
Speaker 1: and three Bills. Oh man, uh? Bucks yesterday lose to
Speaker 1: the Falcons. Uh, we'll pick it up. Ten to ten
Speaker 1: in the second half. Ten to ten at this point.
Speaker 1: After a Devin Tompkins fumble on Tampa Bay's first second
Speaker 1: half drive, Atlanta set up with a short field at
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay twenty seven. Third and eight at the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay fourteen. Ritter to Drake London for thirteen on
Speaker 1: a play that withstood a review from Tampa Bay, where
Speaker 1: he went head over heels of the pylon. His one
Speaker 1: hand appeared to miss the turf out of bounds and
Speaker 1: lost the ball with the other in the field of play,
Speaker 1: but out of the end zone, which would have triggered
Speaker 1: the worst rule in all of sports, Tampa Bay Ball. Instead,
Speaker 1: it was ruled that his offhand did graze a blade
Speaker 1: of grass, apparently first and goal at the one, and
Speaker 1: then Rider goes ahead and fumbles the snap anyway recovered
Speaker 1: by Kaye Ellis. There you go, Shenanigans Later, Atlanta would
Speaker 1: be up thirteen to ten after a coup forty one
Speaker 1: yard field goal. That's a young Hayku first and goal
Speaker 1: for Atlanta at the Tampa Bay twelve, six thirty five
Speaker 1: to go. They're looking to go up two scores. Ritter
Speaker 1: slows down just a bit on his way into the
Speaker 1: end zone to put Atlanta up two scores. At Antoine Winfield,
Speaker 1: Junior Hustling knocks the ball out of his hands just
Speaker 1: before he crosses the goal line, and this time it
Speaker 1: is a fumble out of the end zone Tampa Bay Ball.
Speaker 1: After a trade U punt, Stampa Bay starts down three
Speaker 1: at their own thirty three with two thirty six to go.
Speaker 1: They matriculate methodically a Mayfield thirty one yard game on
Speaker 1: thirty nine at their own thirty four with two oh
Speaker 1: seven left, the big play, and harrowingly because every pass
Speaker 1: that Mayfield through felt like was going to get picked.
Speaker 1: Did you see this last drive? So oh my god,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god. They
Speaker 1: settle for McLaughlin thirty six yard field goal, game time
Speaker 1: field goal, thirteen to thirteen. Atlanta starts at their own
Speaker 1: twenty five with forty five seconds left in the game.
Speaker 1: It's all they needed. Second in debt at their own
Speaker 1: twenty five with forty seconds left. Ritord of Pitts for
Speaker 1: thirty nine most of it. Yak sets up a coup
Speaker 1: fifty one yard field goal try at the end of regulation. Corkscrew.
Speaker 1: It goes in ball game sixteen thirteen in Atlanta, Mayfield
Speaker 1: twenty seven to forty two for two seventy five, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: one pick, three sacks in defeat, three carries for thirty
Speaker 1: two yards. And then there's the curious case of the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Buffalo at New England. We pick it up
Speaker 1: thirteen to three New England at the half. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: what is happening? Third quarter Bills go eighty one yards
Speaker 1: opening drive. The second half Alan to James Cook for
Speaker 1: eight thirteen to ten. New England then sixteen to ten.
Speaker 1: After a r Island forty nine yard field goal, Bills
Speaker 1: convert a fourth and one at the New England forty
Speaker 1: three when Allan lines up under center and sneaks it in.
Speaker 1: What do you know? A sneak on a fourth and
Speaker 1: one perks as the end of the third quarter, but
Speaker 1: four plays later fourth and two at the New England
Speaker 1: thirty three, thirteen to fifty left Allen incomplete in ten
Speaker 1: for Knox. New England then goes sixty six yards they
Speaker 1: kickstarted by Jones to Paroll Brown, twenty six yard gain.
Speaker 1: They take more than six minutes off the clock. Jones
Speaker 1: to Kendrick Bourne from four out twenty two to ten.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get the two point conversion, and even after
Speaker 1: an off side and a PI on the bill so
Speaker 1: twenty two to ten, it remains just over the halfway
Speaker 1: mark of the fourth quarter, and then the Bills come back.
Speaker 1: They go seventy five yards Alan to Diggs for twenty
Speaker 1: five on a play where he went down, got up
Speaker 1: before he was touched, broke a tackle. Scored twenty two
Speaker 1: to seventeen, five thirty two to go two easy second
Speaker 1: play subsequent drive Jones to Bourne hit by Dame Jackson.
Speaker 1: Fumbles Terarol Bernard recovers. Bill set up in the New
Speaker 1: England twenty nine with four to fifty six to go
Speaker 1: in a chance to lead, They end up with a
Speaker 1: fourth and two of the New England eight with two
Speaker 1: fifty left. Allan to Kinkaid for four first down. Three
Speaker 1: plays later, with two minutes left, Allen in on a sneak.
Speaker 1: I guess that was a very favorable He's in two
Speaker 1: point conversion good Alan to Knox twenty five to twenty two,
Speaker 1: Buffalo one fifty eight to go. Can Buffalo actually win this?
Speaker 1: The answer nough, Pats go all the way downfield kickstarted
Speaker 1: by Jones to Remandre for thirty four. Then they end
Speaker 1: up first and gold the one with eighteen seconds left
Speaker 1: incomplete second and goal the one with fifteen seconds left.
Speaker 1: They're still lined up in shotgun. What are you doing well? Jones?
Speaker 1: The geise Gaysiki guys Siki twenty nine twenty five New England,
Speaker 1: twelve seconds left. Buffalo does not get a miracle. Belichick's
Speaker 1: three hundred the regular season win, and the Bills lose
Speaker 1: Allen twenty seven forty one for two to sixty five
Speaker 1: in defeat. Wow, how about that upset? A lot of
Speaker 1: survivors went out with that one that said and teezers,
Speaker 1: sorry buddy, sorry bout you teezer that said Buffalo by
Speaker 1: a touchdown here Buffalo. Mine is seven, I would imagine
Speaker 1: against Tampa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is seven and a half at Draft Kings
Speaker 3: right now, coming down a little bit, I believe off
Speaker 3: the opener. I think the opener was more eight eight
Speaker 3: and a half originally yesterday, so down a little bit
Speaker 3: seven and a half and total coming down in this
Speaker 3: game as well at forty and a half.
Speaker 1: Right now, so a little more than the seven. What
Speaker 1: do you make of the What do youan of the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, who have to keep reminding myself actually beat
Speaker 1: the Giants this week? I know, right.
Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of those the injuries on
Speaker 3: defense starting to catch up with them, and then Aflo's huge, yeah,
Speaker 3: and then offense, offense just struggling right now.
Speaker 1: And I think that's pretty clear.
Speaker 3: I think yesterday's a I don't I want to go
Speaker 3: overboard on that because I think that was finally the
Speaker 3: first game we saw this year basically of New England
Speaker 3: like everything going the way they game play in the
Speaker 3: game to go where it's cut down the drives, take
Speaker 3: the air out of the ball. Just make mac Jones
Speaker 3: make efficient plays, which he did incredibly yesterday, and then
Speaker 3: play good defense.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. We kind of we kind of
Speaker 1: feel like San Francisco is gonna play Philly in the
Speaker 1: NFC Championship. We kind of feel like Kansas City's gonna
Speaker 1: be the AFC Championship. We have no idea who their
Speaker 1: opponent's gonna be. It ain't gonna Buffalo struggling. They got
Speaker 1: work to do, come back, More guessing lines right here
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Speaker 1: We get tweets at beating the book, Russell Ambrose, can
Speaker 1: we skip over the bills and guessing the line today?
Speaker 1: Bye bye? Survivor switched off Seahawks due to the percentage
Speaker 1: amount that went with the Seahawks, So sorry, I already
Speaker 1: did the bills.
Speaker 3: Sorry, we were just talking about that during the break.
Speaker 3: The everything, whether you had a teaser tied into.
Speaker 1: The bills for fiver money line, everything that needed to
Speaker 1: happen and go your way to put yourself in that position,
Speaker 1: just to have Mac Jones, just Mac Jones can't possibly
Speaker 1: come back, Kenny, you can't possibly put a touchdown, driving
Speaker 1: so easily a field goal to send this to overtime,
Speaker 1: but no way a touchdown to win it in regulation.
Speaker 1: Jamie Leva powering through like Michael Jeffrey in Game five,
Speaker 1: respect talking about Michael Jeffrey Jordan, He's comparing me to
Speaker 1: Michael Jeffrey Jordan, the one where Scottie pippenhil him up.
Speaker 1: Rip to your calf, Kelly says, my condolences. He said,
Speaker 1: all right, be to your calf. I gotta see this
Speaker 1: all right, By the way, everything we're gonna go through today,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get three games in here real quick
Speaker 1: in this segment. Uh. The shenanigans of the play calling,
Speaker 1: the shenanigans of the officiating, nothing compares to what happened
Speaker 1: in college football on Saturday. And we'll get to all
Speaker 1: that tomorrow. I have a soliloquy on college football tomorrow.
Speaker 1: What a balagon that sport was? Sorry, sorry, I had
Speaker 1: to go different language, Johnny, all right, what's next? Early windows?
Speaker 1: Sudden Rams at Cowboys in the early window it is?
Speaker 1: It is, yeah, three and four Rams, four and two. Dallas,
Speaker 1: Dallas coming off a break here, Dallas. Excuse me? The
Speaker 1: Rams yesterday somehow snatched defeat from the jaws of victory
Speaker 1: against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mike Tomlin is gonna be is
Speaker 1: gonna have a winning record again with this outfit. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: That's another story. Win totals under just I watch every week.
Speaker 1: What's going on here? We'll get to them. But this game,
Speaker 1: the Rams uh three to three games twenty five seconds
Speaker 1: left in the half, Stafford to two to two at
Speaker 1: well thirty one yard touchdown pass on a throw that
Speaker 1: looked like it was intended for Cooper Cup. Because every
Speaker 1: damn throw is supposed to be for Cooper Cup. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go off I McVan a minute. But Brett mar
Speaker 1: by the way, also a dooint a fifty three yard
Speaker 1: fieldal earlier. He misses the pat so it's nine to
Speaker 1: three Rams at the half, pick it through for seventy
Speaker 1: eight yards. In the first half for the Steelers, he
Speaker 1: was six of thirteen. You're like, okay, Rams are gonna
Speaker 1: smoke him, by the way, Stafford the half was nine
Speaker 1: of sixteen for one to fifty nine five for ninety
Speaker 1: four to Nakula pooka Nakula baby. Third quarter, first play
Speaker 1: from scrimmage, Stafford tries to force it into double coverage
Speaker 1: to get it to Cup, because of course he does.
Speaker 1: Picked by TJ. Watt, Pittsburgh set up at the seven
Speaker 1: third and goal to one. Picket sneaks it in ten
Speaker 1: to nine. Pittsburgh takes the lead. Unbelievable. Rams come right
Speaker 1: back though seventy five yards, including Stafford to Nkua for
Speaker 1: thirty two incredible sideline catch and then Stafford to Nakula
Speaker 1: for twenty Henderson in from one out, two point conversion
Speaker 1: good Stafford to cup seventeen ten, Rams eight to fifty
Speaker 1: seven left. Third quarter. Later in the third quarter, same score,
Speaker 1: seventeen to ten. Rams after a Pittsburgh three and out,
Speaker 1: Maher would hook a fifty one yarder badly and then
Speaker 1: starting at their own forty one, a big third and
Speaker 1: eight picket to Deontae Johnson thirty nine yard hookup. The
Speaker 1: key played start the fourth quarter. Two plays later, Jalen
Speaker 1: Warren in from thirteen seventeen to seventeen, and the crowd
Speaker 1: goes wild. You're like, wait, it wasn't a home game
Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh. Yes it was, Yes, it was. Then the Ring,
Speaker 1: then the Rams three and out, and then the Steelers
Speaker 1: go eighty yards. All of a sudden, piket is Terry Bradshaw.
Speaker 1: He's seven to seven on these last two drives. Nause
Speaker 1: in from three twenty four to seventeen. Pittsburgh with seven
Speaker 1: fourteen left. Then the Rams forced to punts Steelers take
Speaker 1: over with five twenty eight left. They never give it back.
Speaker 1: They end up with a fourth and one at the
Speaker 1: Rams thirty nine with two twenty four left. Picket somehow,
Speaker 1: according to the officials, gains the requisite yard ridiculous spot.
Speaker 1: McVeigh doesn't have any more timeouts, so they can't challenge it.
Speaker 1: Ballgame twenty four to seventeen, Pittsburgh. I just want to
Speaker 1: say this for Rams backers and Rams fans. Thirty one
Speaker 1: rushes twenty nine passes for the Rams. I don't know
Speaker 1: what mcveigh's just need to run the football as much
Speaker 1: as he does is but it's killing him. You can't
Speaker 1: win in the NFL that way. And I'll just say
Speaker 1: it again, there's absolutely no way that with Puka, with
Speaker 1: Cupp and with at Well, you should be scoring only
Speaker 1: nineteen points per game since Cup came back. But when
Speaker 1: you fixa on Cooper Cup, which is always if you
Speaker 1: watch these games, they're so he's so fixated on getting
Speaker 1: the ball to his boyfriend Cooper Cup that they're running
Speaker 1: the and they're running the ball more than fifty percent
Speaker 1: of the time. You can't do both of these things
Speaker 1: by the way they're running it on first down all
Speaker 1: the time. This is like Mike Zimmer, we must run
Speaker 1: on first down kind of levels. They should not expect
Speaker 1: to win. And as soon as they start going into Kua,
Speaker 1: good things happen. Pookinakua eight catches for one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty four yards. And let me just say this, when
Speaker 1: you rank Poka Nakula right now all time through your
Speaker 1: first seven games most receptions ever fifty eight, twelve ahead
Speaker 1: of the second highest most receiving yards Eddy Royal on
Speaker 1: that I saw. Surprise, Yeah, just twelve behind most receiving
Speaker 1: yards through seven games. Jamar Chase seven fifty four Pokinakua
Speaker 1: seven fifty two. Think about how you thought about Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1: Pookin Akupa was right there. Most fantasy points. If you're
Speaker 1: inner that Jamar Chase is the only one with with
Speaker 1: like less than one excuse me, like zo point six
Speaker 1: points better? How is he not the rookie of the
Speaker 1: year at this point? I know, I know that See
Speaker 1: strouds a quarterback, but this dude is shattering records. I
Speaker 1: might have a ticket on him too, So maybe I'm
Speaker 1: talking no way you've met Sorry about that case you're
Speaker 1: wondering full disclosure, like, are you really passionate about this?
Speaker 1: Dallas minus six coming off of bye?
Speaker 3: You are pretty much dead on. That was the opener,
Speaker 3: down to five and a half. Now at DraftKings, Okay,
Speaker 3: what's next? Vikings at Packers?
Speaker 1: Vikings coming off of by Packers. I'll just say it again,
Speaker 1: this is my reaction last week Viking Bikings tonight. Pardon me, correct,
Speaker 1: sorry about that. Vikings played the Niners tonight, of course,
Speaker 1: so we sight unseen on the Vikings. I'll say it
Speaker 1: again about the Packers, where I said last week, I'm
Speaker 1: no Broncos fan, but how are the Packers favored on
Speaker 1: the road against Denver as they were yesterday? On three
Speaker 1: Lutz Field goals. The Broncos let it halftime nine to nothing,
Speaker 1: which is a story in and of itself, because the
Speaker 1: Broncos defense had been so bad to this point they
Speaker 1: were shutting out the Packers at the half. That after
Speaker 1: an andre Is Carlson forty three yard missed with under
Speaker 1: a minute left and then Wilson quickly getting the Broncos
Speaker 1: and Field will range for that third one third quarter
Speaker 1: nine to nothing after a Carlson twenty nine yard field
Speaker 1: going to cut it to nine to three. The Broncos
Speaker 1: go seventy five yards Wilson Cortland Sutton for eighteen wide
Speaker 1: open sixteen to three Denver six seventeen left third quarter.
Speaker 1: The route was on right. Nope, green Bay wakes up
Speaker 1: seventy five yards Love to Dobbs from sixteen out, sixteen
Speaker 1: to ten Denver one forty six left third quarter. Then
Speaker 1: after a Denver three and out, Green Bay goes seventy
Speaker 1: six yards, including a fourth and one conversion at the
Speaker 1: Denver twenty nine. Then on fourth and two at the
Speaker 1: Denver four down six eight thirty five left, they go
Speaker 1: for it, Love to Dobbs, deflex off of him into
Speaker 1: the hands of Jaden Reid seventeen sixteen green Bay eight
Speaker 1: thirty one to go. And if you're back in the Broncos,
Speaker 1: like I was, Jolane, I cannot believe this is happening.
Speaker 1: But the Broncos matriculate, though they get a Lutz fifty
Speaker 1: two yard field goal to go back up nineteen seventeen
Speaker 1: with three fifty to go, and then the Pack start
Speaker 1: at their own twenty five big Love to Dylan twenty
Speaker 1: nine yard to hook up mostly Yak eventually gets to
Speaker 1: the Denver forty four, but a holding penalty sets them back.
Speaker 1: Then third and twenty at the green Bay forty six,
Speaker 1: with one to fifty two remaining, Love intercepted downfield by
Speaker 1: pag a lock ball game reminiscent of that horrible Picky
Speaker 1: throw against the Raiders as well Broncos win nineteen seventeen. Ooh,
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, I know I set all off season. I said,
Speaker 1: how do we know he's gonna suck? He's held a
Speaker 1: clipboard under one coach and under one Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: quarterback all these years. You're not supposed to suck. He
Speaker 1: might Minnesota at green Bay. I made a picked him
Speaker 1: because there's no other What other line could this be?
Speaker 1: Green Bay is a one and a half point one
Speaker 1: to one and a half point feet of course they
Speaker 1: are right now, which the market loves the Packers for
Speaker 1: some reason.
Speaker 3: Gil, all I'm gonna say is I've got it circled.
Speaker 3: I've got all my notes, vikings, teaser legs circled, question
Speaker 3: mark after tonight.
Speaker 1: That's a great thing to circle and say, because I
Speaker 1: think that makes a whole lot of sense, assuming this
Speaker 1: line is right around where it's at after the game tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see how the bikes did before I get all
Speaker 1: crazy about playing its exactly. Yeah, let's squeeze more. What
Speaker 1: do you got all right? Falcon at Titans, Falcons we
Speaker 1: talked about. They beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and so
Speaker 1: the Falcons are now on top of the NFC South.
Speaker 1: They're four and three. Sorry, you're dominant NFC South leader.
Speaker 1: Of course, one of these teams is making the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Atlanta at four and three. Desmont Ridder was nineteen of
Speaker 1: twenty five for two fitty yesterday, six carries for thirty
Speaker 1: eight yards. He had the touchdown, but he lost three fumbles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one at the one yard line and the other through
Speaker 1: the end zone. Of those three, come on, Desbert Ridder,
Speaker 1: gotta do better. And then there's Tennessee, who's two and four.
Speaker 1: They're coming off a bye, but we don't know who
Speaker 1: the quarterback is, right because Bryan Tannehill had the high
Speaker 1: ankle sprain. Was that in London? It was in a
Speaker 1: boot last week during the bye. If he plays, they're
Speaker 1: a slight favorite. If he doesn't, it's Malik Willis. I'm
Speaker 1: going to assume over will Levis. We haven't seen anything
Speaker 1: for Billy Levi's yet this year. So yeah, so deal
Speaker 1: like yes, Billy Leys. So I don't know even what
Speaker 1: to make this. I just threw it in the middle.
Speaker 1: I'll say a pick them right now, but I think
Speaker 1: it all depends on who the quarterback is to determine
Speaker 1: who's the favorite. It's gonna be a tick of a
Speaker 1: favorite either way. Yeah, you're close. It's Falcons one right now.
Speaker 1: That probably assumes no Tannehill. Yeah, I played. I played
Speaker 1: the look Ahead on Saturday and that kind of gave
Speaker 1: me a hit. Matt Brown gave me a heads up
Speaker 1: about this with this number. Was just like a couple
Speaker 1: of points off.
Speaker 3: Falcons were the dogs originally with all that quarterback controversy,
Speaker 3: so I thought that was a good play.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, totally depending on what the quarterback
Speaker 1: situation is. Yeah, by the way, NFL stepped it back
Speaker 1: up yesterday after a couple of more you know, just
Speaker 1: ho home weeks of just quality of play. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Nothing yet in terms of value, at least, I don't
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Speaker 1: say something while I blow my nose since I just.
Speaker 3: Sneeze, you got it. Yeah, let's see. We've got a
Speaker 3: bunch of those early games. No no bets for me
Speaker 3: yet on those was talking about it a little bit though,
Speaker 3: did bet they look ahead there on Falcons. We're interesting
Speaker 3: to see where that game goes. Uh Gil, I don't
Speaker 3: really think we're gonna get a huge, huge change in
Speaker 3: that spread. Depends no matter what the quarterback situation is,
Speaker 3: because even if you get Ryan Tannill, it's a banged
Speaker 3: up Ryan Tan.
Speaker 1: I would play. I would play the Titans if it
Speaker 1: was Tannehill and they were okay, I would. But I
Speaker 1: don't think he's playing. I just I don't get the
Speaker 1: feeling he's playing. We get tweets at beating the book.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Kelly, by the way, excellently is excellently a word.
Speaker 1: Uh this is for let's see uh years sniggle Fritz picks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that sniggle Fritz because someone was asking me yesterday, hey,
Speaker 1: all these guys, all these Lions people that were given
Speaker 1: you crap for not having them their top ten yesterday
Speaker 1: or or have they started apologizing yet? And I've said, well,
Speaker 1: not yet. And the snickele Fritz picks that he goes,
Speaker 1: they'll be back next week after the Lions get another cupcake.
Speaker 1: He said, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, wait what wait, wait wait, we're
Speaker 3: talking about like Twitter and social media where.
Speaker 1: Apologies are gonna be issued. I don't think that's going
Speaker 1: I will say this. I gotta call I gotta call
Speaker 1: out our buddy Las Vegas Chris. By the way, Chris,
Speaker 1: you're invited on a megapie whenever you want. When whenever
Speaker 1: you say something in any way that can be perceived
Speaker 1: negative about the Lions, which me having them eleventh apparently
Speaker 1: was that he gets really indignant and arrogant and kind
Speaker 1: of rude. So Chris, sorry, buddy, they got crushed.
Speaker 3: What was so interesting about that last week was it
Speaker 3: was such a great great case study of we often
Speaker 3: talked about it, how does national media see the NFL
Speaker 3: versus how to better see the NFL.
Speaker 1: And it was oddly this topic that hit both right.
Speaker 1: It was the we do our power rankings, but everybody does,
Speaker 1: other four letter networks does. And that's where everybody was
Speaker 1: freaking out. How could you not have them in your
Speaker 1: top ten? I even said it. I go, oh, I
Speaker 1: get it, you're under a propaganda machine. We're more than
Speaker 1: one of those guys had them number one one.
Speaker 3: But then on the other side of it, you were
Speaker 3: having debates with big time betters over the one like
Speaker 3: two point different if some spreads would be versus other teens.
Speaker 1: It got it got to a discussion of home field advantage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you turn on the game and they just
Speaker 1: get blasted. Well, I asked doctor Bob, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: because I had one of the Happy had the Chargers ten.
Speaker 1: I had the Lions twelve. By the way, Chargers won't
Speaker 1: be in the top ten either probably this week, right,
Speaker 1: I had the Chargers tenth, that I had the Lions eleventh.
Speaker 1: And I asked doctor Bob, I was like, by the way,
Speaker 1: what's your rankings? And he said, oh, I have the
Speaker 1: Lions eighth and the Chargers twelve, So I mean, what
Speaker 1: are we talking about here, not that much. No, no
Speaker 1: early windows. Saints at Colts. Oh, I was gonna read
Speaker 1: a tweet. Oh sorry, okay SATs Colts. Okay, Saints at Colts.
Speaker 1: Saints coming off by as well. Yes, god, a lot
Speaker 1: at six teams were on by Thursday Thursday. That's right. Extra,
Speaker 1: that's correct, extra time here, extra rest for the Saints.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, I getting all my days. Maxa three
Speaker 1: and four Saints Now at Indianapolis, who's also three and
Speaker 1: four Saints coming off that Thursday lost to the Jags.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis loses somehow to the Brownies. Let's pick it up.
Speaker 1: Fourteen to seven Indianapolis, four twenty eight left in the
Speaker 1: first quarter. This is after Indianapolis had fallen behind seven
Speaker 1: to nothing and then they took the lead fourteen to seven.
Speaker 1: Next drive. This is a four twenty eight left in
Speaker 1: the first quarter. They're up fourteen to seven. Next drive,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson third and seven at the Browns twenty five.
Speaker 1: He's picked It looks like by Kenny Moore the second
Speaker 1: that was overturned, but Deshaun knocked out on the play.
Speaker 1: Helmet hits the turf, never to return concussion protocol, but
Speaker 1: apparently he cleared it at some point during the game,
Speaker 1: and they just didn't put him back.
Speaker 3: In cleared protocol. So another just weird team Deshaun injury
Speaker 3: thing going on.
Speaker 1: Minsche.
Speaker 3: You know it was even weirder real quick. It is
Speaker 3: the inside and in Indy, right. Did you see the
Speaker 3: cutaways of him wearing the massive like winter overcoat that
Speaker 3: goes over the shoulder pads.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a throwback to the seventies and eighties thing.
Speaker 1: R like Lambeau when they're freezing on the sidelines. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why is this Shaul Watson so cold over there? And
Speaker 1: then the Miles Garrett show began. Minshew sacked by Garrett. Next,
Speaker 1: Drivey fumbles were covered by Anthony Walker Junior leads to
Speaker 1: a short field touchdown. Five play touchdown drive Hunt in
Speaker 1: from two fourteen fourteen fourteen twenty two to go second quarter.
Speaker 1: Then after a Matt Gay's sixty yard field goal try, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. This was a Matt Gay sixty yard
Speaker 1: field goal try blocked by Garrett who jumped clear over
Speaker 1: the line, which is allowed as long as you don't
Speaker 1: make contact with any of the offensive lineman. Denzel Ward
Speaker 1: returns at nineteen yard that would lead to a Hopkins
Speaker 1: forty four yard field goal. Pardon me, seventeen fourteen Cleveland,
Speaker 1: eight thirty eight left second quarter. Let's fast forward to
Speaker 1: twenty one to seventeen Indianapolis as they retook the lead
Speaker 1: three fifty one left first half, Minshew second and fifteen
Speaker 1: at his own six one fifty left and a half
Speaker 1: sacked by Garrett fumbles troy Tony Fields recovers for a
Speaker 1: touchdown twenty four to twenty one. It would be twenty
Speaker 1: seven to twenty one at halftime after a Hopkins fifty
Speaker 1: four yard field goal as the gun sounded. Yes, boys
Speaker 1: and girls, there used to be a gun at the
Speaker 1: end of these games. Not at the end of the
Speaker 1: half necessarily, but literally the official would like buyer guns. Awesome.
Speaker 1: Let's just review Miles Garrett first half. He made three
Speaker 1: defensive play that led directly to seventeen Browns points. Wild yep,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, he's not your defensive player of
Speaker 1: the year just on this performance alone. That was the
Speaker 1: first thing I had written out of my game notes
Speaker 1: for this one. Browns. Let's fast forward. Brown's up thirty
Speaker 1: three to thirty one with six thirty three left. Now
Speaker 1: at this point in the game, there had been six
Speaker 1: lead changes already six already, Browns up thirty three thirty
Speaker 1: one second play of the Colts drive down to Minshee
Speaker 1: to Pittman Junior for seventy five yards touchdown thirty eight
Speaker 1: to thirty three Indianapolis and the Colts in their blue
Speaker 1: on blue alternate blue helmets, They're gonna get this that.
Speaker 1: I love that. It was great. Really, I thought terrible.
Speaker 1: I love the helmet. Okay, yeah, Uh by blue blue,
Speaker 1: I thought it was black. Wasn't blue black? I thought
Speaker 1: it was blue black. Uh, you thought Josh Allen was
Speaker 1: in on that sneak. Kelly and I could never agree
Speaker 1: on goalides. Apparently that's the thing this season. By the
Speaker 1: way he taunts, he puts up. The victories are a little, uh,
Speaker 1: little piece of whatever he's doing. Tawny penalty does not
Speaker 1: come back to haunt him, as Cleveland then goes three
Speaker 1: and out, so the Browns have all three timeouts left.
Speaker 1: They regained possession with two thirty five left to go
Speaker 1: at their own twenty down five with one time out left.
Speaker 1: They did have one time out left, third and ten
Speaker 1: at their own twenty walker to Elijah Moore for thirty,
Speaker 1: than Pierre Strong for thirteen because Jerome Ford was lost
Speaker 1: with an ankle injury earlier. Then two plays later, Walker
Speaker 1: to People's Jones for seventeen, ends up third and four
Speaker 1: the Indian Apoles thirteen. With forty seven seconds left, Walker
Speaker 1: hit by a j speed, he fumbles, Buckner recovers ballgame right,
Speaker 1: Colt's gonna win. Nope. Flag illegal contact on Darryl Baker Junior.
Speaker 1: Now Spiro Deddi's And is that how you pronounce the
Speaker 1: spiro Ded's? That's what is it? Spiro Adidas? It's not Adidas,
Speaker 1: though it's not my Adidas Spirodd's. I think it's gone.
Speaker 1: They're deadis him? He's the play by play guy, and
Speaker 1: Adam Archiallette is the color guy. They were completely focusing
Speaker 1: on whether Walker's arm was going forward. Meanwhile, there's a
Speaker 1: flag on the field which is clearly in the area
Speaker 1: where there's a hold, and they go on for like
Speaker 1: a minute talking about whether his van was going forward
Speaker 1: or not, or his arm was going forward. It's like, guys, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a defensive penal league, So that gives the that
Speaker 1: gives there. They completely botch it, and that gives the
Speaker 1: Browns first and goal at the eight. Then Walker throws
Speaker 1: the ball into the stands. It seems like at least
Speaker 1: it hits the back wall. They call a PI on
Speaker 1: Baker Junior in the back of the end zone. If
Speaker 1: uncatchable is in the rule book, why doesn't anybody ever
Speaker 1: call it? I don't know.
Speaker 3: It is one of those. It's incredible when they decide
Speaker 3: to call it, when they don't.
Speaker 1: Once in a blue moon they throw it out and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, you do call it. Not yesterday.
Speaker 1: First and goal at the one after an incomplete pass,
Speaker 1: a shovel pass that goes incomplete that Spiro Didius once
Speaker 1: again didn't immediately understand was an incomplete pass. He took
Speaker 1: like five seconds to oh that's incomplete. We don't usually
Speaker 1: talk about him, but yeah, he had a bad stretch
Speaker 1: there that last sequence. Then third and goal incomplete, fourth
Speaker 1: and goal. They had thrown three passes from the one.
Speaker 1: Cleveland remembers that they're allowed to run from the one
Speaker 1: yard line. I don't know if a memo got to them,
Speaker 1: but Stefancy's like, oh, we probably should run one of these.
Speaker 1: Hunt barely in behind Nick Harris touchdown fifteen seconds left,
Speaker 1: two point at ten field thirty nine thirty eight Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: excuse me, thirty nine thirty eight Cleveland, pardon me, Indianapolis incomplete.
Speaker 1: And then the fumble ballgame, Browns win at thirty nine
Speaker 1: thirty eight, eight lead changes in all Minshew fifteen of
Speaker 1: twenty three for three to zero five, Taylor eighteen for
Speaker 1: seventy five on the ground to touchdown, three catches for
Speaker 1: forty five, Josh downs five for one to twenty five
Speaker 1: in a touchdown. They outgame Cleveland. Indianapolis did four point
Speaker 1: fifty six to three sixteen in total yards, but they
Speaker 1: were minus two and turnovers led to plus fourteen Cleveland
Speaker 1: net points. Miles Garrett game MVP and maybe the defensive
Speaker 1: player of the year. But that's Cleveland. This is New
Speaker 1: Orleans at Indianapolis. I will say the Colt's not quite
Speaker 1: the three minus two and a half. I will say
Speaker 1: this is right now, Colts one and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. Makes sense to me because New Orleans,
Speaker 1: even with the extras. Look, I have no idea what
Speaker 1: that football team is none ah me either this is
Speaker 1: and Indianapolis is feisty no matter what.
Speaker 3: They're feisty either, solid I think that this the Anthony
Speaker 3: Richardson losses just so painful for what this team could possibly,
Speaker 3: you know, grow into over the course of the season.
Speaker 3: Because binshe is just say right now, he's he can
Speaker 3: play some serviceable ball until he turns into a turnal machine.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing that's been the thing to Pasco.
Speaker 1: Probably Will says serviceable ball, serviceable ball until he turns
Speaker 1: into a turnover machine, which could rear its head at
Speaker 1: any row it of any game, so complete state away
Speaker 1: game for me, looking for value, trying to extract some value.
Speaker 1: First look at week eight lines guessing lines in the
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Speaker 1: sports betting network, kil Alexander Kelly Billin live from bar
Speaker 1: Canada at the d here in downtown Las Vegas. We
Speaker 1: get tweets at beating the book away was appreciate them,
Speaker 1: Elvis toast Patterson fan Keilly can't wait to hear how
Speaker 1: you handle these baseball scenarios today, especially if the Phillies
Speaker 1: lose early. Still hoping for our World Series exact though
Speaker 1: he's on it with me, the Phillies over the Astros.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you how I'm handling it. I'm not. I
Speaker 1: think at the most I may make the slightest sort
Speaker 1: of just token bet on the Rangers just to make
Speaker 1: sure I would get my outlay back if they won tonight,
Speaker 1: just so I don't lose money. But it's not gonna
Speaker 1: cut into I'm not doing any kind of edge where
Speaker 1: I'm securing profit or anything. I'm just not because I
Speaker 1: like the matchup tonight. I like the matchup. I like
Speaker 1: that it's Max Scherzer going up against Kristin Xavier. In
Speaker 1: Xavier we trust, and Schurzer is going to have I mean,
Speaker 1: Bruce Bochi's gonna be out there so quick tonight. If
Speaker 1: Schrez goes right, she's gonna throw a tantrum and Bochi's
Speaker 1: gonna look at him and say, I got three rings, buddy,
Speaker 1: get out of here. And it's gonna be all hands
Speaker 1: on deck for the Texas Rangers for sure tonight. But
Speaker 1: I like the Astros chances, and I know they haven't
Speaker 1: won at home this whole series. By the way, I
Speaker 1: think was Max Scherzer in Game seven for the Gnats,
Speaker 1: in that same situation where nobody won a home game
Speaker 1: in the Nats World Series against the Astros I get
Speaker 1: it he won that game or the Nats did anyway,
Speaker 1: so I don't want that to repeat. But I like
Speaker 1: the astros. Chances also tweets this is from Las Vegas
Speaker 1: five one four yo. Tell young Kelly to check that
Speaker 1: calf out. He may not punt anymore, but you need
Speaker 1: that leg to walk. I'm with you, man, check out that.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling from that perspective way better good.
Speaker 1: It just looks bad. She just looks bad. I'm still
Speaker 1: looking at this afterwards, but Diatron, I don't want to
Speaker 1: look at it during the show because I don't want
Speaker 1: to be able to like not go anymore. So I
Speaker 1: just want to just in case Podiatron. Today's over under
Speaker 1: a matriculate is six. I'll take the over now. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna get there. Titans Insider, which is not an
Speaker 1: official account of the Titans because he's killing the Titans.
Speaker 1: He goes Tannahill's out. If Malak's the start of the
Speaker 1: Falcons will win the game. Elite can't throw a football, can't.
Speaker 1: I mean? He said, Love might be the worst starting
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. Until Malik Willis lines up under center,
Speaker 1: Tannehill will be ruled out later this week and Falcons
Speaker 1: will win and cover. Wow. He going against this team like.
Speaker 3: This is a realistic Titans fan. This is what we
Speaker 3: talked about before the season. This if this season target
Speaker 3: started to turn south. And I don't think that they're like,
Speaker 3: it's too early. I guess for you to say, hey,
Speaker 3: they're completely out of it.
Speaker 1: But if Ryan Tannehill is.
Speaker 3: Actually injured, you now have a very convenient excuse and
Speaker 3: not I mean it should be an excuse you need
Speaker 3: to get. Will Levis looks into some point anyway, So
Speaker 3: it's time to start thinking about it.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see it, Jamie Levuh Hey, Kelly, Hey,
Speaker 1: Kelly philibuster, While I blow my nose. Just when I
Speaker 1: thought this show couldn't get any better, you go and
Speaker 1: do something like this. Here quite welcome. Thank you never prouder,
Speaker 1: Jay and J watering hole roof was open yesterday. It
Speaker 1: was Chile and Lucas Oil. Evidently that's why the most evidently,
Speaker 1: he says, that's why the most horrific PI call ever
Speaker 1: was called when the ball literally hit the back wall
Speaker 1: of the stadium, which is eight yards beyond the end zone.
Speaker 1: Catchable my tulkas he says, he says another word for
Speaker 1: Tilkes and then Godfather seven oh two when Banyama and
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett Defensive Player of the year parlay thanks. You
Speaker 1: remember last week when I said to you we were
Speaker 1: talking about when Banyama and Rookie of the Year, and
Speaker 1: I said to you, I go, you wouldn't play Defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the year twenty to one? What are we
Speaker 1: missing while everybody's looking at Rookie of the year, Why
Speaker 1: is he twenty to one defensive player of the year.
Speaker 1: We gotta play this man. Yeah, that's the that's to
Speaker 1: me a better bet than Rookie of the Year. He's
Speaker 1: nine feet eight inches tall.
Speaker 3: Although I don't know you say that if he wins
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year, he's winning Rookie.
Speaker 1: Of the Year, So you know, I mean, yes, I
Speaker 1: can't say it. One yeah, Scotty B seven six. Did
Speaker 1: you hear jeans sterators say on the air and uncatchable
Speaker 1: passes like a ball thrown into the stands. It was
Speaker 1: on the broadcast. I still can't believe it. We'll read
Speaker 1: more tweets. We gotta get to another. It's every rule
Speaker 1: though that has to do with catchable right, like.
Speaker 3: Intentional grounding drives me insane too, because I think there's
Speaker 3: far more intentional groundings that actually happen then are called well,
Speaker 3: and then they're also they also call the intentional grounding sometimes,
Speaker 3: like there was one in a Seattle game where the
Speaker 3: quarterback misreads what the receiver is gonna.
Speaker 1: Do and they call it right, Yeah, yeah, what do
Speaker 1: you mean? It's not intentional grounding and that's what hurts.
Speaker 1: And then the one with the Browns last week. We're
Speaker 1: trying to judge intent right, and it's intentional grounding. Walker
Speaker 1: fumbles the ball. They're like, that's intentional grounding, Buddy, five yard,
Speaker 1: just grounding. It wasn't intentional, but you grounded, all right.
Speaker 1: Patriots and Dolphins two and five Patriots five and two Dolphins.
Speaker 1: We talked about the Patriots and beating Buffalo Mac Jones
Speaker 1: with twenty five of thirty. Kelly, sorry to revenue for
Speaker 1: two seventy two yesterday, Miama, well, I listen, I laid
Speaker 1: the thirteen and a half against Carolina. I said, they're
Speaker 1: a bully. They are one of these great offenses that
Speaker 1: will crush teams that are worse than them. But when
Speaker 1: someone you know, when they get picked on by someone
Speaker 1: on their own size doesn't go quite as well. They
Speaker 1: lose thirty one to seventeen. Quite frankly, it wasn't that close.
Speaker 1: And I know it was seventeen to seventeen, and quite frankly,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that close. It's three to nothing. Philly third
Speaker 1: and eight at their own thirty three. Hurts, sacked by
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubby fumbles, Christian Wilkins recovers, and after an adventure
Speaker 1: sequence leads to a Sanders forty yard field well three
Speaker 1: to three fifty nine seconds left in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: Then Philadelphia has a fourth and one at the Miami
Speaker 1: thirty seven. After the rare off setting off sides by
Speaker 1: both teams, Herts for two leads to a Hurtz to
Speaker 1: Goddard nineteen yard touchdown pass ten to three. Philly nine
Speaker 1: play sixty one yard drive that took four to thirty
Speaker 1: four eleven twenty five left in the second. After Miami
Speaker 1: three and out, Philadelphia ends up with a fourth and
Speaker 1: four at the Miami thirty four. Hertz flushed out of
Speaker 1: the pocket, he finds Brown downfield to the one. Next play,
Speaker 1: Hurts toush push touchdown seventeen to three Philly three ten
Speaker 1: left in the second quarter. Then at the end of
Speaker 1: the first half, Miami did go sixty eight yards. It
Speaker 1: included a third and eighteen conversion two a to Tyreek
Speaker 1: from twenty seven out seventeen to ten. We go into
Speaker 1: the locker room. Miami fewest points, ten and yards one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen in a first half this season. They
Speaker 1: also were out time of possession if you will, nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty six to ten oh four in the first half.
Speaker 1: They're only down seven. They get the ball first in
Speaker 1: the second half. Tyreek drops a sure touchdown pass on
Speaker 1: third and three at the Philadelphia twenty one four to
Speaker 1: twenty left in the third wild fourth and three, Miami
Speaker 1: goes for it incomplete intended for Cedric Wilson Junior, where
Speaker 1: his face mask got yanked. No call at at this
Speaker 1: point in the game. You know how many accepted penalties.
Speaker 1: The Eagles had zero zero, Dolphins had eight for sixty.
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, what am I watching? I mean, I
Speaker 1: get it. I have the Eagles that worked out, but
Speaker 1: come on first. Inten at their own twenty one hurts
Speaker 1: pick six, Then Jerome Baker to the house and we
Speaker 1: are tied at seventeen with four h two left in
Speaker 1: the third quarter, but then Philly goes seventy five yards
Speaker 1: hurts to Brown from fourteen out twenty four to seventeen
Speaker 1: with nine seconds left in the third quarter in favor
Speaker 1: of the Eagles. Miami third and eight at the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: twenty four to a picked by Darius Slay with eleven
Speaker 1: twenty one left. Then Philadelphia fourth and a long one
Speaker 1: at their own twenty six with ten o one left.
Speaker 1: They go for it and convert on the took us
Speaker 1: push because they're amazing at it. Then a fourth and
Speaker 1: one at their own thirty seven with eight ten left.
Speaker 1: Easy Peasy took his push conversion three plays later, hurts
Speaker 1: to Brown for forty two. Two plays after that game
Speaker 1: Will spins in from three thirteen play eighty three yard
Speaker 1: six to thirty five in terms of six minutes thirty
Speaker 1: five seconds. That is soul crushing drive thirty one to seventeen,
Speaker 1: Philly four to forty six left. That's how it would end.
Speaker 1: So let's just break down Miami seventeen points in this
Speaker 1: game Kelly yep three off a Hurtz fumble, then a
Speaker 1: pick six for their last one and the one in
Speaker 1: between the touchdown in between was a miracle third and
Speaker 1: eighteen converted. Okay, we'll give you the third and eighteen,
Speaker 1: but you get the idea. This was much worse than
Speaker 1: the thirty one to seventeen game, but yes, in the end,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins had ten penalties for seventy yards, the Eagles
Speaker 1: had zero to a twenty three of thirty two for
Speaker 1: two to sixteen tyreek eleven for eighty eight and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins were out first down to twenty six to twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was look, I guess I was one of
Speaker 3: the people that leaned the Dolphins side a little bit,
Speaker 3: thinking that this offense was gonna be able to put the.
Speaker 1: Pressure on the Eagles.
Speaker 3: And Eagles this was a show Who's Boss sort of game, right,
Speaker 3: come play with the big boys, and the big boys
Speaker 3: show you his boss.
Speaker 1: Listen again, I'll use the term bully Joe Fordenball, or
Speaker 1: as we like call him, Joe Forden Bizzle. Over ESPN,
Speaker 1: he tweeted that should quiet down the Miami talk. They're
Speaker 1: a ton of fun to watch against bad slash average teams,
Speaker 1: but we're seven weeks in and they've done nothing to
Speaker 1: demonstrate they can handle the big stage, and Mackenzie Kramer
Speaker 1: responds to this, and this is another way to look
Speaker 1: at the Dolphin season. The Dolphins have been outscored seventy
Speaker 1: nine to thirty seven. And that's keeping in mind how
Speaker 1: they got the seventeen last night. They've been outscored seventy
Speaker 1: nine to thirty seven in two games against teams that
Speaker 1: aren't two plus games below five hundred. And what he's
Speaker 1: referring to there is, besides the Bills game and besides
Speaker 1: the Eagles game, every team they've beaten is two or
Speaker 1: more games below five hundred. Yeah, so I mean.
Speaker 3: It's and you know, we're still with the smallish sample
Speaker 3: size the season obviously, but the two games they've played
Speaker 3: against really quality opponents, Yeah.
Speaker 1: They've been on the road, but still they've gone on
Speaker 1: the road to Laden Egg. By the way, you're still
Speaker 1: one of the top, you know, half dozen teams in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. You're still the most fun to
Speaker 1: watch in all that, I thought, George shah Rury from
Speaker 1: a Pro Football focus, Among current playoff teams, only one
Speaker 1: team has the strength of victory below two fifty, the
Speaker 1: Dolphins at two forty two. That's their aggregate opponents win percentage.
Speaker 1: The five teams they've beaten combined eight wins combined point
Speaker 1: differential of minus three nineteen, including the four worst teams
Speaker 1: league by the way, Miami minus seven and a half
Speaker 1: hosting New England. What's the actual answer? It is ten?
Speaker 1: Miami ten? WHOA all right? I mean I don't hate it, right,
Speaker 1: because they're capable of that against a bad team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not taking the Dolphins ten points with the pads. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. More guessing
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Speaker 1: for week number eight in the National Football League, trying
Speaker 1: to extract some value. You don't know if we've extracted
Speaker 1: any of us far looking for something that jumps off
Speaker 1: the page. Let me read a couple of tweets. Here, we
Speaker 1: get tweets at bat of the book before we dive
Speaker 1: by dive back into a Djen Southern gent. Hey, Kelly,
Speaker 1: I heard you've never missed a field goal kick. I
Speaker 1: know you've graduated college. Is a fact one for one lifetime.
Speaker 1: So we established a couple of fridays ago. I know
Speaker 1: you've graduated college, but do you have any years of
Speaker 1: NCAA eligibility left asking for Arizona State football? Oh, let
Speaker 1: me tell you so. I'm going to talk about this tomorrow,
Speaker 1: but I just gotta say something. First of all, they
Speaker 1: didn't trust their kicker. Their kicker was terrible, and they
Speaker 1: just stopped trusting him. I have never ever come on
Speaker 1: on this show ever in six and a half years,
Speaker 1: nor podcast for years and years before that, and ever
Speaker 1: even hinted that anything it was ever not above board.
Speaker 1: I'll just say that was as close to I've ever been,
Speaker 1: as as I've ever been to saying that. I just
Speaker 1: want to say that about that game we'll get into tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Jeff la Mine, Oh my god, before you make any
Speaker 1: twenty to one wager on a rookie talking about whim Manyama,
Speaker 1: how about one hundred to one at DraftKings on Roquan Smith.
Speaker 1: I assume he's saying for defensive player of the Year,
Speaker 1: the unquestioned great leader on the NFL's top three d
Speaker 1: he turned around this de since he arrived. Great shot.
Speaker 1: If the Ravens carry on? All right? Who's that one from?
Speaker 1: We got a lot of Roques Smith, Jeff la mine
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith.
Speaker 3: Okay, he's one of the guys are tweeting earlier. Okay,
Speaker 3: And I love this roquad Smith propaganda from a Jeff propaganda.
Speaker 1: Let me guess, Jeff, you haven't that one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty to one? Uh torch d this. I love this tweet.
Speaker 1: Can we please see an Eagles game where the only
Speaker 1: play they run is the tuks push first of all
Speaker 1: extra points for you for naming it correctly as the
Speaker 1: tures bush and not the Tushbush. Will Hill threw this
Speaker 1: out yesterday, and I just think it's because you know,
Speaker 1: there's all the talk are they gonna ban the play?
Speaker 1: And the Eagles fans and the team is like why
Speaker 1: because we do it so well? What was the tweet?
Speaker 1: Real quick? The tweet was, can we please see an
Speaker 1: Eagles game where the only play they run is the
Speaker 1: Tukes Bush. So Will said this yesterday, So you know,
Speaker 1: because there's all this talk, are they gonna ban it?
Speaker 1: Are they not gonna ban it? And then who was
Speaker 1: it was last night? I think it was on the
Speaker 1: broadcast where they're like, well it if they do ban,
Speaker 1: it'll because of safety reasons, right, because a couple of
Speaker 1: people get hurt. And Jeff, who's my buddy the Aria,
Speaker 1: used to be at the Aria, now he's over at
Speaker 1: another establishment. He said to me, goes, here's how it's
Speaker 1: gonna end. Somebody's gonna roll onto Jalen hurts his leg.
Speaker 1: God forbid, it's gonna be a major injury, and they'll
Speaker 1: we'll never hear about this play again. Torch d great
Speaker 1: tweet because Will said yesterday he goes, I want to
Speaker 1: see like a second and six where they want it
Speaker 1: run it three straight times to get a first down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'd get it. And what I said is I want
Speaker 1: to see in a postseason game to salt a game
Speaker 1: away that scenario second and six. All they gotta do
Speaker 1: is get a first down to win it, and they
Speaker 1: go took his push. Tukris Bush took his push to
Speaker 1: win it. I don't know then what will the NFL
Speaker 1: do at that point. I think there's some people that
Speaker 1: think I was kidding when I was saying this whole offseason,
Speaker 1: But the Saints boxed their entire offseason. You got Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill there, you don't know what to do with.
Speaker 3: And then we see the Tucks push come around last
Speaker 3: year and it's okay, Taysom Mill.
Speaker 1: You have the perfect guy for it, like Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: You paid twenty one million dollars. Jam him in there.
Speaker 1: You don't need to go sign Derek Carr. You got
Speaker 1: Tsom Hill. Put him there, get some big bodies behind him,
Speaker 1: and you just every down. And I'm not kidding Gill
Speaker 1: until they ban it. If you pick up four yards
Speaker 1: on every down, you keep marching down the field, it's
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. And I'm not aesthetically pleasing, the naysayers say,
Speaker 1: but pretty damn and CBS, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I think, Sirianna, you got to hold off on that.
Speaker 3: You don't want to get it banned too early. But yeah,
Speaker 3: sure you get to the postseason.
Speaker 1: So second and sixth, we salt the game the way
Speaker 1: as salt the game away with three consecutive ones. Let's go.
Speaker 1: We gotta get to some games here. Yeah we do, Okay,
Speaker 1: Jets at Giants early oh Battle of New York three
Speaker 1: and three Jets, who should be thrilled there? Three and
Speaker 1: three after six games at the two and five Giants. Now,
Speaker 1: Giants beat Washington yesterday and we'll get to it. We
Speaker 1: get to Washington, but just a a game that the
Speaker 1: Washington commanders have no excuse on. Uh. Giants were playing
Speaker 1: guys from play just time from the practice squad from
Speaker 1: other teams. Zero zero game after gno miss the forty
Speaker 1: two yard field goal Tyrod or Trod pardon me? Forced
Speaker 1: out of bounds after a one yard game on a
Speaker 1: third and goal to Washington five. But Washington accepts a
Speaker 1: holding penalty. Instead of saying no, do you kick a
Speaker 1: field goal? They said, ah, third and goal to fifteen,
Speaker 1: that'll teach you. Taylor to Waller for fifteen touchdown. Giants
Speaker 1: seven and nothing, fourteen eighteen left in the second quarter. Later,
Speaker 1: Washington down seven to nothing, they have a second and
Speaker 1: two at their own forty three. Howell underthrown pass picked
Speaker 1: by Deontay Banks two plays later to Rod de se
Speaker 1: Kwon from thirty two fourteen and nothing. He got this
Speaker 1: eight fifty six left in the second quarter. The Giants
Speaker 1: would never score again. Eight fifty six left in the
Speaker 1: second quarter and they won halftime. Howell was five of
Speaker 1: fourteen for sixty yards, and he was sacked five times already.
Speaker 1: Good God, it's like David Carr. Territory Washington two first downs,
Speaker 1: forty six total yards in the first half. They were
Speaker 1: out gained two fifty six to forty six in the
Speaker 1: first half. Third quarter three and alf for Washington, But
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepard, who by the way, is a girlfriend on
Speaker 1: Instagram's phenomenal. He muffs, not she. He muffs a Tressway punt. Tressway,
Speaker 1: by the way, MVP of Washington set up at the
Speaker 1: New York twenty one. Six plays later, after converting a
Speaker 1: fourth and one, Robinson in from four out fourteen to
Speaker 1: seven Giants, here comes Washington, ten twenty one left in
Speaker 1: the third. Later in the quarter, same score, first and
Speaker 1: fifteen at their own twelve. Howel, running for his life,
Speaker 1: throws a sure pick six to Caveon Thibodeau, who has
Speaker 1: it in his bread basket. He's running before he catches
Speaker 1: the field, and he just whiffs it instead team straight
Speaker 1: three announced still for seven point game, Washington one O
Speaker 1: six left in the third quarter, back to be again
Speaker 1: at their own ten. Howld The McLaurin gets leveled by
Speaker 1: Deontay Banks as he makes the catch at fifteen to
Speaker 1: the twenty seven yard game forty two yard game, flips
Speaker 1: the field last play of the quarter, Third and nine
Speaker 1: at the Giants forty seven. Howl to McLaurin for thirty one.
Speaker 1: The incomparable Terry McLaurin. Another great catch with two defenders
Speaker 1: surrounding him. Amazing. What can happen Washington Commandos when you
Speaker 1: target the best player on your team. McLaurin had two
Speaker 1: targets through three quarters. Throw the ball, he's incomparable, Throw
Speaker 1: it to him. God makes me so mad. Leads to
Speaker 1: fourth and three at the Giants nine with thirteen to
Speaker 1: twenty eight left. Keep in mind they're down seven. They're like, eh,
Speaker 1: we'll kick a field goal and sly gets his field
Speaker 1: goal try blocked. By the way, what's the opposite of
Speaker 1: riverboat Ron, because that's what he is, gianddleboat Ron draft Ron.
Speaker 1: Giants go seventy yards, have a first and goal at
Speaker 1: the Washington ten was seven to fifty one left. They're
Speaker 1: gonna salt it away, but Saquand's hit by Deron Pain fumble,
Speaker 1: Skins recover. Still down seven, they matriculate. They end up
Speaker 1: fourth and one at the Giants eighteen two minutes left.
Speaker 1: Howel to McLaurin for six because of course mclaurin's gonna
Speaker 1: get you the first down. Then four plays later, fourth
Speaker 1: and five at the seven, one oh one left, Howell
Speaker 1: escapes the rush behind John Dodson. The throw is beyond
Speaker 1: the sticks, but it's a little behind him off his hands.
Speaker 1: Ball game fourteen to seven, Giants win. Oh I made
Speaker 1: that game sound way more exciting than it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did a great job. Thanks so proud.
Speaker 3: It would be really cool to see Terry McLaurin and
Speaker 3: and Saquon Barkley play for good football team.
Speaker 1: Sure would be Taylor eighteen of twenty nine or two
Speaker 1: seventy nine two touchdowns. No Pasey was sacked four times,
Speaker 1: Saquon twenty one for seventy seven on the ground with
Speaker 1: the fumble, lost three catches for forty one in a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I will say the Jets will be four point favorites
Speaker 1: at the Giants Jets coming off of bye Jets three
Speaker 1: Jets three. Oh, I think I might like the Jets
Speaker 1: with a whopping total of thirty six. If you're giving
Speaker 1: me the Zach Wilson led Jets at only three, I
Speaker 1: might take them. I said the same thing yesterday too.
Speaker 1: I did make a bet on it and put out like,
Speaker 1: this is what we've got to Yeah, let's go that Wilson.
Speaker 1: It's Jets are password. Plend my money behind you, baby?
Speaker 1: What could go wrong? Man? All right? Uh? Jags at Steelers,
Speaker 1: Jags at Steelers. Jags coming off the extra rest here,
Speaker 1: they'll have extra rest in this game. They're five and two.
Speaker 1: They're a top the AFC South at the Steelers, who
Speaker 1: we just talked about somehow snatched victory from the jaws
Speaker 1: of defeat against the La Rams can He Pickett ended
Speaker 1: up seventeen of twenty five for two thirty, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picksy we sacked twice. I did have a touchdown
Speaker 1: pass Pickens five for one oh seven. That like under
Speaker 1: the underthrown pass to Pickens that they do on the
Speaker 1: sideline is such a great play for them. And they
Speaker 1: have this pattern now where Picket sucks for like three
Speaker 1: quarters and then he just turns it off at the end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is this true? The stat that I just read? Have
Speaker 1: the Steelers been out gained every single game this year?
Speaker 1: And they're four and two? Probably the worst four and
Speaker 1: two football team ever. They're gonna have a winning record.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my underwin total.
Speaker 3: Beds any Mike Tomlin stats you want to share. Everybody
Speaker 3: wants to rub it in, go ahead, you can. It's
Speaker 3: it's fair.
Speaker 1: All they got. All they gotta do is cobble together
Speaker 1: five more of these and they're and they're another winning
Speaker 1: season for the Pittsburgh By the way, that is the
Speaker 1: most competitive division in football. Where the Ravens are at
Speaker 1: the top at five and two, they should be seven
Speaker 1: to zero. Steelers them and the Bengals are at the
Speaker 1: bottom at three and three. Steelers right behind him, as
Speaker 1: are the Browns. I will say Jacksonville minus three on
Speaker 1: the road. Uh, your number a little closer here.
Speaker 3: Because this was this opened up pick them, I think
Speaker 3: it spots. Yeah, I opened to pick them because I
Speaker 3: considered a Jags bet and passed on it. It is
Speaker 3: up to two two and a half everywhere now Jacksonville, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Jacksonville should be favorite in this game.
Speaker 1: I just don't know, Like I'm terrified of betting against
Speaker 1: the Steelers. That's where I'm at too.
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at, And to be fair, I think
Speaker 3: going going into Pittsburgh a much tougher task.
Speaker 1: Than obviously if you were hosting Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: So that that's holding me back to I don't think
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get there with a bet, but it'd.
Speaker 1: Be Jags are passed. Jets are clearly the best bets
Speaker 1: so far against that, against that Giants offense, against that
Speaker 1: Jets defense, We'll squeeze in one more. I made a
Speaker 1: bet yesterday. I'm gonna talk you into before the end
Speaker 1: of the show. Okay, Eagles at Commanders, Oh, Eagles. All
Speaker 1: Commandos always played the Eagles well, as we know from
Speaker 1: earlier this year as well. Six and one Eagles after
Speaker 1: that win against the Dolphins last night at Washington, who
Speaker 1: we just described losing to the Giants. Hurts by the
Speaker 1: way in victory yesterday was twenty three twenty three or
Speaker 1: thirty one for two seventy nine A J. Brown ten
Speaker 1: catches for one hundred and thirty seven yards and a touch.
Speaker 1: They out first down Miami twenty six to twelve, and
Speaker 1: again no penalties, no accepted penalties for the Eagles, while
Speaker 1: the Dolphins had ten and then Washington in defeat, Howell
Speaker 1: twenty two of forty two for two forty nine. He
Speaker 1: was sacked six more times in this game. McLaurin six
Speaker 1: for ninety on nine targets, but only two in the
Speaker 1: first three quarters. Hey's incomparable, Washington was one of fifteen
Speaker 1: on third downs in this game. Ten penalties for seventy
Speaker 1: five yards. Philly on the road at Washington. But it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a ton of Philly fans minus seven at
Speaker 1: Washington six and a half. Oh, I'm surprised by that, Okay,
Speaker 1: not the full seven, full seven? Yeah, all right, many
Speaker 1: more games to get to power through so far, like
Speaker 1: the Jets best you said, there's one more coming up?
Speaker 1: You like better? Yeah? Okay? So do you? Oh really?
Speaker 1: And so do you? He tells it, that's Kelly Biblin.
Speaker 1: I'm kill Alexander guessing lines. We Kay continues, it's a
Speaker 1: numbers game at Visa in these sports betting network, it'skil Alexander,
Speaker 1: It's Kelly Bidlin. Will get twets at beating the book.
Speaker 1: Scott Weston, Hey, Ryan Tannehill's Kelly's boy? Did you forget
Speaker 1: hellel I loved all you plays last Monday and talk
Speaker 1: myself out of all of them. Man, I'm dumb. Great job,
Speaker 1: keep up the good work. Love the show. Thank you, Scott.
Speaker 1: That's very nice to Jeffrey are Gill equals a smart
Speaker 1: guy talking about sports. Love the show, Kelly, get it
Speaker 1: checked out. He's talking about your your calf. I think
Speaker 1: Jason h eleven Turris, Turris Turris. That's all Dan Coebald,
Speaker 1: I did say that word three times in a row
Speaker 1: second and six playoff saltaway scenario. Let's till this, Dan Coebald,
Speaker 1: as a Colts fan, Gil, I found your level of
Speaker 1: outrage over bad calls not quite high enough, but acceptable
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Stefanski played first and goal at the
Speaker 1: one correctly. Only way to ensure four shots at the
Speaker 1: touchdown was to pass on first, second, and third downs
Speaker 1: twenty five seconds left. Knew he'd run on fourth New Jersey,
Speaker 1: New York. Regarding the Giants of Washington, I'm a Giant
Speaker 1: season ticket holder. I've sat with over I sat with
Speaker 1: him for over a decade. All the people that I've
Speaker 1: sat with holders that I've sat with for over a decade,
Speaker 1: all could not believe that wasn't choked away. Two muffed punts,
Speaker 1: drop pick six, Saquon fumble inside the ten, missed Gano
Speaker 1: field goal. No one really won that game. Brian M.
Speaker 1: B R. Moriannin. I believe I could be mistaken, but
Speaker 1: when Rivera got the Riverboat nickname, I believe one of
Speaker 1: his staff members or players that said Ron didn't know
Speaker 1: what down it was, which is why he quote unquote
Speaker 1: went for it and earned that nickname. Is that right,
Speaker 1: grand Master Stash, I like that leaky boat Ron time
Speaker 1: to decommission, like Stacks. That's I'm with you on the Jets,
Speaker 1: But as my survivor play not a true road game,
Speaker 1: and I don't believe the Giants can win two in
Speaker 1: a row. I also can't trust the Chargers and don't
Speaker 1: feel like going against Arizona three straight weeks. I think
Speaker 1: when I was mapping out Mine that the Chargers this
Speaker 1: was the Chargers week coming up, which we haven't gotten
Speaker 1: to yet.
Speaker 3: But I hear you, and I completely hear his point
Speaker 3: on the because I feel like I've been doing it
Speaker 3: betting wise or with survivor of man.
Speaker 1: It is has to be. If you keep betting against
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, you're getting home. But it's a little tiring,
Speaker 1: exhaust I'll harken back to our survivor talk earlier again.
Speaker 1: Last year there was so few entries left. This year
Speaker 1: there's tons still. I haven't done this analysis, but I
Speaker 1: bet you if you took a snapshot of the twelve
Speaker 1: hundred plus entries that remained, it is the chalkiest Mickchalkerson
Speaker 1: group of entries you'll ever see. I bet you're right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get into more of these, all right. Next up,
Speaker 1: we have Texans at Panther still in the morning, still
Speaker 1: and Stille in the morning the three and three Texans
Speaker 1: at the oh and six Panthers. Panthers are still winless. Uh,
Speaker 1: Houston on a bye, Carolina on a bye, right, both
Speaker 1: Carolina coming off bye with the play color change play
Speaker 1: collar changes right. Frank Reicher said, here, you take this,
Speaker 1: you do something with the kid Houston minus three on
Speaker 1: the road ding ding ding ding? What else could it be? Right? Yeah, yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: and man.
Speaker 3: Makes you look hard at laying three points with the
Speaker 3: Texans on the road.
Speaker 1: Paths. But yeah, but man, that's the only way I
Speaker 1: could go with it Ie on Carolina hooopoo platter of picks.
Speaker 1: This might be yeah, okay into the afternoon. That was
Speaker 1: quick Browns at Seahawks four and two Brownies after that
Speaker 1: amazing win yesterday thanks to or helped in part by
Speaker 1: the officials at the four and two Seahawks. So Cleveland,
Speaker 1: by the way, that game against Indianapoli says we say
Speaker 1: outgained by Indianapolis four fifty six to three sixteen. They
Speaker 1: were plus two in turnovers that led to plus fourteen
Speaker 1: Cleveland net points and Miles Garrett responsible for just it's
Speaker 1: just amazing, dude, Miles Garrett justice, I don't think I did.
Speaker 1: Here's here's the full Miles Garrett line yesterday. You ready
Speaker 1: for this As I rifle through every picture I have
Speaker 1: of that pit thing from Saturday, that's all another thing.
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. Nine tackles, two sacks, two quarterback hits, two
Speaker 1: forced fumbles, a blocked field goal, and I don't even
Speaker 1: know what these other acronyms even mean, but there's a
Speaker 1: you get a pass break up like a PBO pass
Speaker 1: defended PD and then what's TfL tackle for loss tackle
Speaker 1: for loss? All those things. He did all of that, okay,
Speaker 1: and then Seattle. Seattle beats arizonas Kelly was saying, they
Speaker 1: got it done for survivor players in the end, but
Speaker 1: it's it's it's never fun against Arizona seven to three Seattle.
Speaker 1: We'll pick it up there. Arizona goes eighty yards hobs
Speaker 1: In from twenty five, ten to seven. The Cardinals lead
Speaker 1: with nine to eleven left in the second quarter. Then
Speaker 1: Seattle goes seventy six yards genoed Jake Bobo from eighteen
Speaker 1: out fourteen to ten Seattle. That survived a review. Arizona
Speaker 1: gets all the way to the Seattle twenty seven before
Speaker 1: the end of the half, but a holding penalty in
Speaker 1: a sack leaves them only a hail Mary away from
Speaker 1: the end zone that was not answered, So fourteen to
Speaker 1: ten halftime Seattle leads. Third quarter, Seattle goes downfield first
Speaker 1: and goal to one, no gain, one yard loss, one
Speaker 1: yard loss on a pass. They settle for a Myers
Speaker 1: twenty one yard field goal. Let me say that again.
Speaker 1: First and gold to one, first down, no gains, second down,
Speaker 1: one yard loss, third down, a one yard loss on
Speaker 1: a pass to sell for a Myers twenty one yard
Speaker 1: Meyers twenty one yard field goal, seventeen to ten Seattle
Speaker 1: seven thirty one left and third quarter. I thought to
Speaker 1: myself self, that's gonna come back to haunt them. Yep,
Speaker 1: me too, I thought that too, but it did not.
Speaker 1: After an Arizona three and now DJ Dallas thirty two
Speaker 1: yard put return sets up Seattle to Arizona thirty four,
Speaker 1: but third and fourth the Arizona sixteen two thirty seven
Speaker 1: left in the third quarter, Gino ill advised pass picked
Speaker 1: by Garrett Williams, still a seven point game. Arizona punts
Speaker 1: it away to start the fourth, but second and fourth
Speaker 1: for Seattle at their own thirty six. Geno fumbles the snap.
Speaker 1: Kevin Strong recovers for Arizona, but the Cards have to
Speaker 1: settle for a thirty four yard Prader field goal try
Speaker 1: that after an Aeron stap and shotgun had set them
Speaker 1: back and Prader the laces are facing him on the
Speaker 1: hold and so he misses it horribly to the left,
Speaker 1: and Matt Prater was angry on the sidelines. Oh, she
Speaker 1: was angry that day. Still seventeen to ten, eleven oh
Speaker 1: seven left, Arizona can't convert a fourth and nine at
Speaker 1: the Seattle forty nine with five or four left on
Speaker 1: a play that had no possible chance of getting nine yards.
Speaker 1: What a pattern with the Cardinals, by the way, really
Speaker 1: good for the first half. It's wild, kind of like
Speaker 1: the third quarter ish and then it just peters out. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: Eric Eager's best call of the year. Trust me, they'll
Speaker 1: have the number one pick when all is said and done.
Speaker 1: Said that on the megapod. But I'm with you, Like
Speaker 1: we could talk about these full games, but it is
Speaker 1: like the early on first quarter, first half. It's every
Speaker 1: single week. Yeah. They by the way, Seattle gets another
Speaker 1: field goal, they win a twenty to ten. That's how
Speaker 1: it would end. Geno eighteen of twenty four with two nineteen,
Speaker 1: but he did lose a fumble at one pick. They
Speaker 1: held the Cardinals two und forty nine total yards. Seattle
Speaker 1: was minus three in turnovers, but it only led to
Speaker 1: plus three Arizona points. That's the thing. They were minus
Speaker 1: three in turnovers and Arizona only got three points out
Speaker 1: of it. I want bathrom me yesterday. If Seattle didn't
Speaker 1: pull that came out Seattle minus two and a half,
Speaker 1: not quite the three. At home against Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was impressed with you nailed this right on
Speaker 3: the opener two and a half. It is up to
Speaker 3: three everywhere now I bet the see hawks to it.
Speaker 1: We don't know who's playing quarterback for Cleveland, do we
Speaker 1: we We don't.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing it's Watson.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go back to a lot of things
Speaker 1: we talked about last week. I' there is something going
Speaker 1: on with Watson in this team right now. And whenever
Speaker 1: I smelled this function and then we see what did
Speaker 1: we see this past week? This Browns defense that we
Speaker 1: thought was, you know, all worldly, Yes, Miles Garrett was incredible,
Speaker 1: bailed him out. But what the Colts put up four
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards or whatever it was. I mean
Speaker 1: they moved the ball on this Cleveland. I mean he
Speaker 1: had a TfL and a PDQ.
Speaker 3: And that that's right. So two and a half at home,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm laid it with you.
Speaker 1: By the way, is DeShawn that good? Like? I don't
Speaker 1: even know if he's that.
Speaker 3: That's the other thing, right, So even if you're getting DeShawn,
Speaker 3: you're getting a banged up DeShawn. And we have not
Speaker 3: seen like I thought we would at some point this year.
Speaker 3: To this point, we have not seen any any bit
Speaker 3: of Deshaun Watson looking like the old Deshaun Watson. One
Speaker 3: more in here we can try Chiefs at Broncos.
Speaker 1: Broncos six and one, Chiefs two and five Broncos. We
Speaker 1: talked about the Broncos already having beaten the apartment with
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Wilson was twenty of twenty nine
Speaker 1: for one ninety four. But the Chiefs they meet the
Speaker 1: Chargers in a first half where the teams were just
Speaker 1: trading haymakers. It was three to three, then it was
Speaker 1: ten to three KC. Then it was ten to ten.
Speaker 1: Then it was seventeen to ten KC. Then it was
Speaker 1: seventeen to seventeen. Then it was twenty four to seventeen
Speaker 1: KC with fifteen seconds left in the half, because the
Speaker 1: Chiefs had a ninety six yard drive that ended up
Speaker 1: with the Mahomes shovel pass to Kelsey made it twenty
Speaker 1: four to seventeen. The total in this game was forty eight.
Speaker 1: Oh no, A pardon me, yes, forty eight. It was
Speaker 1: twenty four to seventeen at the half. It was it
Speaker 1: forty nine. Pardon me? Was the total they all just
Speaker 1: scored one more touchdown the rest of the game. Yep,
Speaker 1: come on, well there was fifties too, right, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: came down, Yeah, because in the second half, That's right,
Speaker 1: it came down at the end. They traded turnovers, that
Speaker 1: traded three and outs, and then Casey got a Mikole
Speaker 1: Hardman fifty yard pumper turn Welcome back Mikole Hardman Junior
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs that set up a short thirty five
Speaker 1: yard field six plays in Mahomes to but Checko for
Speaker 1: made out for all intents and purposes, ball game thirty
Speaker 1: one to seventeen Kansas City with three point thirty left,
Speaker 1: and then Herbert was picked by Brian Cook to seal
Speaker 1: the deal. Mahomes thirty two of forty two for four
Speaker 1: to twenty four, four touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked
Speaker 1: once Kelsey twelve for one seventy nine and a touchdown
Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty three total yards in front of
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Sorry head to get her in there. Casey
Speaker 1: at Denver, Casey minus ten, Right, they gotta be double
Speaker 1: digit favorites.
Speaker 3: Oh, you would think you'll but no, we're at seven
Speaker 3: and a half eight, which is gonna be.
Speaker 1: The first part of a teaser I'm going to talk
Speaker 1: you into because I bet it. Oh that sounds like
Speaker 1: a teaser for sure. And don't worry. We got another
Speaker 1: leg coming up the night like just as much, if nothing,
Speaker 1: that's an interesting one against that defense. Huh only seven
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, why do I have my spider
Speaker 1: senses tingling? Though? More games to get to game or
Speaker 1: I shually week coming up? We get tweets at beating
Speaker 1: the book. I was appreciated. When I say I was appreciated,
Speaker 1: It's not just some throwaway line. I really do appreciate
Speaker 1: it because we got the best listeners. We really do. Funny, insightful,
Speaker 1: nuanced Charlie d USA number one over undertook us Bush.
Speaker 1: You think that will be on the betting menu? Of course,
Speaker 1: not in Vegas, he says. When we get legalized betting,
Speaker 1: they'll put it on too. Just to follow, Vison says,
Speaker 1: do you have any idea what it's like being forty
Speaker 1: two years old and just learning what most NFL fans
Speaker 1: feel like? Born and raised Wisconsin, I really only knowing FARVN.
Speaker 1: Rodgers's quarterbacks with vague memories of the magic Man. This
Speaker 1: is rough at least your appreciated just to follow Vison,
Speaker 1: I so appreciate your appreciation of that point. I used
Speaker 1: to say, I lived most of my adult life in
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and they had twenty one years like you
Speaker 1: did of Hall of Fame quarterbacking. They had Joe Montana
Speaker 1: and Steve Young back to back, and they won five
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. And when they had this guy named Jeff Garcia, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, Kelly went to three Pro Bowls, and
Speaker 1: they acted like they had the worst quarterback who had
Speaker 1: ever existed. I was like, you guys. The meanwhile, I'm
Speaker 1: like sweating through Gus Varrott and He's like, you guys
Speaker 1: are the most spoiled people I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: So wiscon We knew this was coming, Yep, yep, No,
Speaker 1: but it is. I know it's been tough.
Speaker 3: We've got plenty of Packers fans that work here at
Speaker 3: the network and know it's a tough mental transition. The
Speaker 3: one I keep going back to gil it is I
Speaker 3: love living in Las Vegas. It is amazing with some
Speaker 3: of these sports teams, like the impact that Golden Knights
Speaker 3: has been on this community is incredible. But Thursday Night
Speaker 3: I was in a bar and there was a Golden
Speaker 3: Knights game on. I don't even know if it was
Speaker 3: live gil and I had to I had to ask
Speaker 3: the bartender change exactly. I had to ask the bartender
Speaker 3: to change the channel to the NFL game.
Speaker 1: That was odd, oh wow, because like that's how much
Speaker 1: this town loves the Golden Knights. But it's talking about
Speaker 1: the same thing in that tweet. All they've known is winning.
Speaker 1: Oh they're the most spoiler of the base. All the
Speaker 1: node is winning in this desk. Stanley Cup Finals year one,
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Champs was a year six. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: when they go through a stretch of four years in
Speaker 1: a row of bad like oh, man, I don't know,
Speaker 1: then you become a real hockey exactly. That's when you
Speaker 1: become a real fan. Brus Doe Biggin. It was where
Speaker 1: did that oh come from? Weak pathetic offenses like the Steelers, Patriots, Bears,
Speaker 1: and Colts become beasts, posting big scoring efforts from seemingly nowhere.
Speaker 1: How's that? Well? We kind of knew that was We
Speaker 1: knew with all the market drifting under, you just knew
Speaker 1: it was going to bang over, if not last week,
Speaker 1: at some point here, Jay Litzau, hope I'm pronouncing that. Okay.
Speaker 1: He goes the opposite of river rote ron risk it
Speaker 1: verse Riviera. He says rivera risk a verse Rivera not Riviera,
Speaker 1: but rivera Jim piece in Javier, we trust. He's quoting
Speaker 1: me quote in Javier we trust? Well, said Gill. Yes,
Speaker 1: all this football talk for right now is great because
Speaker 1: we're all drunk on football. But tonight I am locked
Speaker 1: in to the Astros and the Rangers. Come on, Christian, Javier,
Speaker 1: let's get this done once and for all. Win a
Speaker 1: home game. Astros. Djen Southern Gen has sent me a snapshot,
Speaker 1: as so many people have, of this U dub Asu
Speaker 1: play where I'm gonna go through this tomorrow. There was
Speaker 1: multiple plays in this game where I'm just like, is
Speaker 1: anybody else watching this? I thought I was one of
Speaker 1: forty five human beings on earth that were still locked
Speaker 1: into this game, And I'm like, how First of all,
Speaker 1: the announcers, like, the first time they didn't call up
Speaker 1: a defensive PI on on you dub I was like,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna make a big deal of that. He
Speaker 1: just got munk. The second one they threw the flag.
Speaker 1: This is the one Djen and Southern Jen is sending me.
Speaker 1: They threw the flag and then they talked themselves into
Speaker 1: picking it up. I know, and the and the head
Speaker 1: official head up. Now, I'll say it tomorrow.
Speaker 3: The best this is I turned this game out in
Speaker 3: like the second quarter and I had I had it
Speaker 3: all on TV too, and I was like, well, this
Speaker 3: is it stick Arizona State's up. Let me just leave
Speaker 3: this on and that I either changed the channel or
Speaker 3: didn't notice any of this.
Speaker 1: Guy said, like I said, in the history of this show,
Speaker 1: in the podcast, I've never once said this is not
Speaker 1: above board. That was as close as it ever got.
Speaker 1: Last one here, Jesse Welch. The opposite of riverboat ron
Speaker 1: You asked that would be unicorn shaped inflatable to Ronnie,
Speaker 1: I gotta watch. I gotta watch what I ask rhetorically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's losing airt Yeah, what's next? All right, light window
Speaker 1: Ravens at the Cardinals. All right, we get to talk
Speaker 1: about the Ravens and the lines. Finally, yep, five and
Speaker 1: two Ravens one in six Cardinals. We already talked about
Speaker 1: the Cardinals losing to the Seahawks in a game where
Speaker 1: they were plus three and turnovers and only got three
Speaker 1: points out of it. Baltimore sixteen and one straight up
Speaker 1: versus the NFC. Now, with Lamar Jackson fourth and one
Speaker 1: of the Detroit seven opening drive, they go for it.
Speaker 1: Lamar for seven touchdowns, seven and nothing Baltimore after Detroit
Speaker 1: three and out, Baltimore sixty eight yards, baiting for sixteen,
Speaker 1: baiting for twenty Lamar to Aglore from thirteen out on
Speaker 1: third and three from the Detroit twelve on an endless scramble,
Speaker 1: fourteen to nothing Baltimore three eleven left. First quarter. Then
Speaker 1: after another Detroit three and out, Baltimore go was ninety
Speaker 1: two yards twenty two yards. Lamarta Flowers hook up on
Speaker 1: third and eleven at their own twenty seven. The key
Speaker 1: play Lamart Andrews from eleven out twenty one and nothing,
Speaker 1: Baltimore twelve to fifty four left. In the second quarter,
Speaker 1: another Detroit three and out, Baltimore goes eighty yards, most
Speaker 1: on the ground, this time gus for twenty Hill for
Speaker 1: twenty seven Gussin from two twenty eight to nothing, Baltimore
Speaker 1: seven forty five left in the second quarter. You getting
Speaker 1: the point here, Yeah, It was like twenty eight plays
Speaker 1: versus nine plays run. I think at that point it
Speaker 1: was crazy twenty eight nothing lines do finally get a
Speaker 1: couple of first downs, but on fourth and eight at
Speaker 1: the Baltimore forty eight, goffin complete intended for Saint Brown,
Speaker 1: and then finally a Baltimore drive is stop when Lamar
Speaker 1: fumbles on a first intentd the Detroit twenty one twenty
Speaker 1: eight to nothing. At the half, Goff had thrown for
Speaker 1: ninety nine yards. Lamar had thrown for two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty five. They were eighteen to four, eighteen to four
Speaker 1: advantage in first downs, three fifty five to ninety seven
Speaker 1: in total yards. And oh, by the way, nineteen minutes
Speaker 1: forty four seconds to ten sixteen a possession third quarter
Speaker 1: Detroit fourth and fourth of the Baltimore forty five. They
Speaker 1: convert Golf to Saint Brown. That led to a fourth
Speaker 1: and goal of the sixth, which was incomplete. Nine thirty
Speaker 1: one left in the third quarter, and last thing we
Speaker 1: need to know. Baltimore starts at their own six second
Speaker 1: play Lamart at gus for eighty almost all yak. Two
Speaker 1: plays later, Lamarta Andrews were made out thirty five to nothing.
Speaker 1: Baltimore the game would end thirty eight to six. You
Speaker 1: get the idea. Five hundred and three total yards for
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. I just want to harken back to
Speaker 1: last week where I had the audacity to have the
Speaker 1: Lions eleventh in my power rankings, and people lost their minds,
Speaker 1: and they were indignant, and they were rude and all
Speaker 1: of the above, condescending in some places, in some cases
Speaker 1: talking about you Las Vegas, Chris. That doesn't mean the
Speaker 1: Lions are bad. The Lions are still gonna win their division.
Speaker 1: They're gonna win it going away. There's no shame in
Speaker 1: you not being as good as the Baltimore Ravens on
Speaker 1: the road. Baltimore wins it easy, peasy. Lions have a
Speaker 1: cake schedule. Like I said, they're still gonna get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and there's okay. It's okay. If someone has
Speaker 1: them a length in their power rankings, or in Doctor
Speaker 1: Bob's case, he has them eighth, that's kind of where
Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, you're still not among the league's elite. Sorry,
Speaker 1: you're just not. You'll get there, just not yet. Relax, man,
Speaker 1: were they crazy last week? Anyway? That's a little punch
Speaker 1: in the mouth for some folks. Baltimore is great. They
Speaker 1: should be seven and zero. They should be I don't
Speaker 1: know how they lost that game in overtime to the Colts.
Speaker 1: And what was that last game they lost? They shouldn't
Speaker 1: have lost that one either, shouldn't have They should be
Speaker 1: seven point favorites on the road at Arizona.
Speaker 3: A little bit higher eight and a half. Okay, eight
Speaker 3: and a half DraftKings yep.
Speaker 1: By the way, the other game that the Ravens lost
Speaker 1: that they that they should have won, of course, was
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh game. Like, how did they lose that game?
Speaker 1: The magic of Mike Tomlin was the spread on this
Speaker 1: eight and a half?
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it goes back to that tweet. I don't
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna get on board with it
Speaker 3: this week. You'll wear I I think you could easily
Speaker 3: look eight in half and say teaser leg to yourself.
Speaker 1: But whoever tweeted that in before?
Speaker 3: Like, I've hit that point a little bit where it
Speaker 3: is becoming like you're winning bets.
Speaker 1: But man, it is mentally exhausting a little bit to
Speaker 1: call up against these Cardinals. Like both of these last
Speaker 1: two games, we just say Kansas City at Denver and
Speaker 1: then Baltimore in Arizona. Your instinct is, oh road, you
Speaker 1: know what happens with road favorites like that. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's not a long it's not a long teaser leg
Speaker 1: either on the road. Let's get one more in here,
Speaker 1: angles at the Niners, which this is very interesting. Double
Speaker 1: super Bowl revenge, no too soon, too soon, Montana twice. Okay,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's three and three. They're coming off of by San
Speaker 1: Francisco plays tonight against the Viking, so sight unseen. I
Speaker 1: mean three and three Bengals, five and one Niners currently,
Speaker 1: I would say the Niners by seve.
Speaker 3: This is yeah, you're all over five and a half six,
Speaker 3: which I think this is a fascinating line. We talk
Speaker 3: about betting, right, the Bengals coming off of bye. If
Speaker 3: everybody thinks Joe Burrow is getting healthier and healthier, there's
Speaker 3: a chance that you look back, you know, a month
Speaker 3: from now, two months from now, and say, wow, you
Speaker 3: were catching six points with this Bengals team, like that's incredible,
Speaker 3: or you know, things go south and yahda.
Speaker 1: YadA yah this team. This line makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think look, I think this is if
Speaker 3: you have any conviction on the Bengals coming back at
Speaker 3: some point this year.
Speaker 1: I there's got to be close to a bet.
Speaker 3: A bet on you're catching You're catching six points against
Speaker 3: a Niners team coming off a short week. I'm not
Speaker 3: doing it. I'm just bringing it up. I'm just bringing
Speaker 3: up because I think it's a fascinating point better.
Speaker 1: Would you be surprised if the Niners one by? Not
Speaker 1: at all? Yeah? Not? Uh, I think it's right where
Speaker 1: it should be. So I don't I don't see it.
Speaker 1: Tell you there nothing for you. We'll see what the
Speaker 1: Niners do. The Niners tonight seven point road favorites at Minnesota's.
Speaker 1: It's seven ors at six and a half. Now, what
Speaker 1: are you saying right now on this? Uh? We are
Speaker 1: seven at Draft Kings. Do you like anything in this
Speaker 1: game tonight? Bets over Kirk Cousins passing. I have the
Speaker 1: Niners in the contest, but I did not bet them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much painted seven you can get you can
Speaker 1: get cheap sevens places. Yeah. If I mentioned that, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fixated on the Astros and the Rangers you have
Speaker 1: that will be the one with the audio on. Let's
Speaker 1: put it that way. A couple more games to get
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Speaker 3: Get the tweets, man, get the tweets. Should have asked
Speaker 3: you should have thrown that out to Twitter in the
Speaker 3: first segment.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that place is called the Blagi,
Speaker 1: but they got a great monts of ball suit, as
Speaker 1: my dad used to call Jewish penicillin. Place the placed
Speaker 1: by the gardens. That's all I've got. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: We get tweets of beating the book. DQ Mike from Buffalo. Hey,
Speaker 1: DQ Mike from Buffalo. I know DQ Mike from Buffalo.
Speaker 1: He said, Gil, how can Kansas City be minus ten
Speaker 1: on the road when they were ten and a half
Speaker 1: at home? Great question, he's he's uh talking about the
Speaker 1: first Chiefs Broncos game a couple of weeks ago. My
Speaker 1: only answer is we just know more about both teams.
Speaker 1: Kansas City's even even as good, if not better than
Speaker 1: we've thought. Yeah, and Denver's even in victory. They're just
Speaker 1: so men. But it's a great but it's a great
Speaker 1: point to raise that maybe that's inflated as a result,
Speaker 1: or at least my guess was inflated as a result.
Speaker 1: Is what he's saying. Let's say, Jesse Welch, I can't
Speaker 1: define incomparable to you, but I know that Terry McLaurin
Speaker 1: is that it is. Doug Wedge has a picture of us.
Speaker 1: He's stalking us. He says, nothing like stalking your favorite show.
Speaker 1: First thing in the morning. Thank you, Doug Wedge. We'll
Speaker 1: say hello to you afterwards if you're still stalking. And
Speaker 1: then Robbie Smith taking a picture of We were talking
Speaker 1: about how Matt Prater had the field goal where the
Speaker 1: laces were facing him. He said, I guess the laces
Speaker 1: does Where the laces are does matter? Eh. The fact
Speaker 1: that I lost a nine game parlay with Arizona plus
Speaker 1: nine and a half has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: But I'm all in for possible deportation. The holder from
Speaker 1: the NFL loved the show. Thank you very much. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have two more.
Speaker 3: Games Sunday night football Bears at the Chargers, Bears at
Speaker 3: the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Hey, we did talk about this game. The Bears win again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Matt Eberfluse, you ain't getting fired, are you ever? Bears
Speaker 1: win it. They win it going away. Daniel Carlson missed
Speaker 1: a forty one yard field goal early Bears second drive
Speaker 1: sixty nine yards behind Tyson beagent Doante Deontae Foreman in
Speaker 1: from two out, seven to nothing late first quarter. Then
Speaker 1: Hoyer was picked by Tremaine Edmonds. The Bears went thirty
Speaker 1: four yards Foreman in from three fourteen to nothing. Bears
Speaker 1: halfway through the second it was fourteen to three. At
Speaker 1: the half. Beagent was fourteen of nineteen for one oh
Speaker 1: four secret beagent Man. Third quarter, Bears take their first
Speaker 1: drive eighty nine yards Baigent to Foreman from five out
Speaker 1: twenty one to three. Now I just want to point
Speaker 1: this one point out of the game. Down twenty one
Speaker 1: to three, fourth and goal for the Raiders at the
Speaker 1: Chicago six. With twelve twenty three left, McDaniels decides, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stew the uh going for it here down eighteen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick a twenty five yard field will to
Speaker 1: go down fifteen, and he did. And one could argue
Speaker 1: that that takes it from three scores to two, but
Speaker 1: it just seemed odd at the time. Ye twenty one
Speaker 1: to say, by the way, it was twenty four to six.
Speaker 1: Then a Jalen Johnson picked six anyway ballgame, Bears whined
Speaker 1: going away bajent twenty one of twenty nine for one
Speaker 1: sixty two three carries for twenty four yards. They held
Speaker 1: the Raiders to two hundred and thirty five total yards
Speaker 1: of the Bears. They were plus three on turnovers, led
Speaker 1: to plus three Chicago plus thirteen rather plus thirteen Chicago points.
Speaker 1: And then they're at the Chargers, who we just talked
Speaker 1: about loss to the Chiefs. Herbert was seventeen for thirty
Speaker 1: in defeat for two fifty nine. He was sacked five times.
Speaker 1: Charge is still gonna be big favorites. As I said
Speaker 1: when I was doing My Survivor, when I was still
Speaker 1: alive and after week three started napping it. This was
Speaker 1: my Chargers week. I'll say they're north of a touchdown favorite.
Speaker 1: I'll say they're seven and a half point favorites here,
Speaker 1: eight and a half, Okay, eight and a half. Monday Night,
Speaker 1: Monday Night, Raiders at the Lions. All right, So Lion
Speaker 1: Lions fans, you're gonna adorn me after this Raiders get
Speaker 1: beat by Chicago. As we just said, Hoyer was seventeen
Speaker 1: of thirty two in defeat for one to twenty nine.
Speaker 1: A O'Connell came in AOC. Yeah, is that it they
Speaker 1: referred to when they say AOC AOC ten of thirteen
Speaker 1: for seventy five. As I said, they were held to
Speaker 1: two hundred thirty five total yards in Chicago. They were
Speaker 1: minus three in turnovers, led to plus thirteen Chicago points.
Speaker 1: Detroit in their loss to the Ravens thirty eight to six.
Speaker 1: Golf was thirty three for fifty three for two eighty four.
Speaker 1: He was sacked five times a mon Saint Brown thirteen
Speaker 1: for one oh two. They gave up five hundred three
Speaker 1: total yards to Baltimore. Uh, you know how I was
Speaker 1: talking about how you know Lions aren't in my top
Speaker 1: ten and I had the Ravens all in last week
Speaker 1: because I thought three was ridiculous on guessing lines. I
Speaker 1: think the Lions should be double digit favorites in this game.
Speaker 1: I said Lions minus ten. I completely agree they should be.
Speaker 1: They're not. They're seven and a half, eight point favorites.
Speaker 1: Give me the Lions. Yes, that is allons.
Speaker 3: This was the one I was I was hinting at
Speaker 3: all show, but this was I did it. I did
Speaker 3: a Kansas City Detroit teaser. It does look like we're
Speaker 3: going starting to go up to eight. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of books seven and a half though. Right now, Gil,
Speaker 3: like I, there's a waiting raiders money comes in to
Speaker 3: push this down to seven.
Speaker 1: Right There's no way, no why, this is just the
Speaker 1: possible reason, no idea.
Speaker 3: I think this is just gonna be tying in teasers.
Speaker 3: But this is so I was talking about this last
Speaker 3: night with Matt Brown. If this, if the Lions Ravens
Speaker 3: game is competitive, not even they win, they competitive, it's competitive.
Speaker 1: What's this line? But this is this? It feels like
Speaker 1: it should be closer to your ten. This is the
Speaker 1: whole thing with recency bias, right, Like recency bias is
Speaker 1: plagues all of sports betting, plagues all of life, by
Speaker 1: the way, but plagues all of sports betting. It particularly
Speaker 1: plagues your NFL handicapping. And you really do have to
Speaker 1: do it against the reason we do power rankings because
Speaker 1: it gives us guard rails. Everything I said about the
Speaker 1: Lions last week, people only hear what they want to hear.
Speaker 1: But I also said they're gonna win their division, They're
Speaker 1: gonna win double BG games, They're gonna crush the Raiders.
Speaker 1: My two favorite plays of the week based on this exercise.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot that I liked here, but my
Speaker 1: two favorite players are the Jets minus three on the
Speaker 1: road at the Giant. It's road. I don't think a
Speaker 1: bet on that, but I leaned that way. Oh I'm
Speaker 1: about to put a bet on that. And then the
Speaker 1: Lions you're saying, what is it eight? There are plenty
Speaker 1: of seven and a half seven and a half right behind you.
Speaker 1: Shoot by down to the seven. If you see a
Speaker 1: seven and a half, I play.
Speaker 3: I was looking forward so much to talking about this
Speaker 3: game with you, because just everything based of everything that
Speaker 3: happened last week, based on the outcome of what that
Speaker 3: game is. And then you see this line and I
Speaker 3: thought the same thing as you. I thought double digits
Speaker 3: for sure here.
Speaker 1: And this is also why, like if you're a fan
Speaker 1: of a team, or if you have a bet on
Speaker 1: a team, you shouldn't overreact to what what what I
Speaker 1: say or anybody says on a week to week basis,
Speaker 1: because again, just take the Dolphins laid the thirteen and
Speaker 1: a half against Carolina no problem, and then faded them
Speaker 1: against the Eagles this week. Lions faded the heck out
Speaker 1: of them against the Ravens this week. I am totally
Speaker 1: backing them at this number against the Raiders. One game
Speaker 1: in the NFL.
Speaker 3: It is whenever you see a game like that, got
Speaker 3: to say, anything can happen on Sundays like this is
Speaker 3: in its spirals right, like that that game was over.
Speaker 3: I don't care how good the Lions are that game
Speaker 3: was over in the second quarter, it was and then
Speaker 3: and also in this, in this day and age of
Speaker 3: the NFL, with all the fourth down attempts, you have
Speaker 3: these games. This is not like our mom and dad's football, right,
Speaker 3: This is games that, if they're already spiraling out of control,
Speaker 3: can just spiral into oblivion like that, because if you're
Speaker 3: gonna go for four data that point you fail. That
Speaker 3: didn't used to happen, right, that was the Bills, right,
Speaker 3: the Bills missed that field goal. Instead of being down
Speaker 3: three for much of the second half, you're down six
Speaker 3: and they're going forward on fourth downs on drives that
Speaker 3: are getting stopped. It turns your It changes your complete
Speaker 3: outlook on how you.
Speaker 1: Have to play the game. And it changed. And for
Speaker 1: for our purposes and handicapping, what it does is people
Speaker 1: people are people are not process oriented, the results oriented, right,
Speaker 1: so they'll see the final score. Final score will be
Speaker 1: what will stick in their heads and not think about
Speaker 1: how did we get there? And there's so many of these,
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins yesterday is a great example. Against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: they only ended only in quotes right, end up losing
Speaker 1: by two touchdowns. No we just went through. They got crushed.
Speaker 1: They got crushed. Yeah, the officiating health the Eagles, for sure.
Speaker 1: You can't have no penalties in a game, right, But
Speaker 1: those seventeen points, one was pick six, one was set
Speaker 1: up if field, what was set up by a fumble?
Speaker 1: And the other seven they got a third and eighteen.
Speaker 1: So we'll give them that one. But you just gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta really focus in on not that final score.
Speaker 1: And with the Lions again, was it. Did I think
Speaker 1: the Ravens were gonna beat him by thirty two? I
Speaker 1: did not. Did I think they were gonna beat him handily? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: But the Lions aren't. They didn't. I didn't have him
Speaker 1: ranked twenty eighth in my power rings. They ragged eleventh.
Speaker 1: I love them at that number against the Raiders. Love them, Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. So I mean things I've made so far.
Speaker 3: I made a Chiefs Lions teaser and laid two and
Speaker 3: a half with the Seahawks. What I did, and that
Speaker 3: le lean I leaned towards the Jets with you. I
Speaker 3: didn't bet it, but I leaned that way as well,
Speaker 3: which is weird. I mean, Matt Brown and Iron kind
Speaker 3: of laughing about as well. Last night I got to
Speaker 3: run into bed the Jets.
Speaker 1: But yes, Zach Wilson, you're my guy for the week
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football.
Speaker 3: I did play a little Kirk Cousins over passing yards.
Speaker 3: You got anything for anything I have? I have the
Speaker 3: Niners in the contest at six and a half. Okay,
Speaker 3: so that's my fifth trying to go four and one,
Speaker 3: trying to overcome that oo and five and get back
Speaker 3: to sixty percent so I can talk about it again.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I went two and three, so I'm just under the
Speaker 3: sixty percent. Yeah, not allowed to talking about self inflicted
Speaker 3: rule on this show.
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to talk about entries until we're at
Speaker 1: least sixty percent and then we can actually talk about it.
Speaker 1: We're both doing in real life terms, we're doing fine,
Speaker 1: but contest terms, not doing well at all. Uh. Let's
Speaker 1: go Phillies Nola going up against Merrill Kelly this afternoon.
Speaker 1: Phillies minus one eighty five favorites. Let's get it done.
Speaker 1: Let's steal that and then the old sphincter tightening game
Speaker 1: tonight in Javier. We trust Astro's short favorites against the
Speaker 1: Rangers for all the marbles in the American League Good
Speaker 1: luck to all. It's a numbers game at Visa. The
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