1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Who am I? What is this realm? What is up 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: there in the night sky? Where is the edge to 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: this beautiful flat earth? Is the ocean blue because the 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: sky is blue? Is the sky blue because that's God's 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: favorite color? Because he's a boy? These are some of 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: the questions that keep me and Baxter up at night. 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: We go back and forth trading our thoughts and feelings. 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: The other night we were talking about what if our 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: feet were our hands and our hands were our feet. 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the randomness of it all, it's just astonishing. 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: Why is a nose called a nose? Why is a 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: carolina called a carolina? Oh? My parents name me? That 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: is everything? Okay, realm, I've just never heard you talk 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: like this. Does something happen? Well, it's it's a long story. 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, I went to a place called Joshua Tree. 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: Now I didn't didn't go there on purpose, mind you. 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: Actually was quite the adventure. I was walking to my 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: local stopping shop and well, you can fill in the rest. No, 19 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't fill in the rest. Well, I 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: ran into an old pal I used to jam with. You, 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: remember Skylar, right, Skyler with the sax. Well you can 22 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: guess what happens next? No, I promise I can't get jeez, 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: you're not helping me out here. You're really gonna make 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: me spell this out for you, aren't you. No. I 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: just want to know your story about Joshua Tree. I mean, 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: whatever led you to all of these surreal questions about 27 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: the world. I'm interested? All right. Well, Skylar and his 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: sacks took me on the road with his jazz trio. 29 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: I hopped on their tour bus to their next gear 30 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: at Toyota, Sienna. Okay, and boy was it magical? Me 31 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Skyler and his crew. We we played music. We sang 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: some songs, drank a little, danced a little, fought over 33 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: some power dynamics in the band, met some mysterious women 34 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: who we loved. But God did Carolina we love the 35 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: music more. It's a common conflict. Then, right around the 36 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: third act, life on the road took a turn for 37 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: the worse. Empty glass pipes all around me. A love child, 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I abandoned somewhere an Encino Eggzema. My life was in 39 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: the toilet bowl. I had to miss our next show 40 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: at the gas Lamp Artisan Market's annual pet parade. I 41 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: told Skyler to pull the bus over. How long were 42 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: you on the bus? Depending on traffic, it's about a 43 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: two hour drive anyway, I told them to drop me 44 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: off in Joshua Tree, the desert. There had to be 45 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: something more to this life than the lights, the fans, 46 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: the girls. And he said, you went south from Diego. Yes, yeah, 47 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: I never know how tough it is to get into 48 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Joshua Tree. The security is insane, the guard towers, the fencing, 49 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: the dogs, the people selling chicklets. Drink it, drink its chicklets. 50 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: You know what I think now that you're saying, I 51 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: think you went to Mexico. Well, wherever it was, it 52 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: was beautiful, sandy beaches, amazing food, nice people. They were 53 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: speaking Spanish. Now that's Mexico. That's where you were. And 54 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: it was in Joshua Tree where I found only more questions. 55 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: Where does all this beauty come from in the world? 56 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Does it come from me? Does it come from my 57 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: own eyeballs that see it? No, it's definitely the world 58 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: definitely already exists. Is life an amazing dream? I don't know, 59 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: ron I mean, these are just questions mystics have been 60 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: asking since the beginning of time, which is why I 61 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: have chosen our topic today to be the questions of 62 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: the universe for the sake of time. Do you think 63 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: we can get more specific? Um? Okay, the questions of 64 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: our world? It's still pretty broad. Maybe, um, maybe a 65 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: specific question. Okay, how about the questions of life and 66 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: love and the planets beyond. That's it. That'll be our 67 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: top Maybe just spirituality, or how about you let me 68 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: pick the topic since it's my fucking podcast. Sorry, sorry, 69 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: I am so sorry. I know you can you look 70 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: at me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Let's just ya, you're right. 71 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: Just maybe let's spirit spiritlogy, spirituality, spirituality. That'll be today's topic. 72 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: And I wish I wish that were someone we could 73 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: we could call to talk about the subject. Otherwise you 74 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: and I can handle it, I think. Okay, let me 75 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: pass me your book. I'll see if we have look 76 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: through my rolodex here, Yes, I keep a rolodex, folks. 77 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: My rollo X doesn't lose its memory, not a lot 78 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: of How is Stephanie that she's not very spiritual? Okay? Yeah, 79 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call her girl with lippering. Girl with lippering. 80 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: There's no name there is there even a number? Um? 81 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: It's just I think it's just a stick figure. Yeah, 82 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: girl with lippering. Thank you. You have nine one one 83 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: in here? Just so I I remember to call nine 84 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: one one if there's an emergency. Okay, And you have 85 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: the number to dial Z one hundreds Z one hundreds 86 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: dash for cash. Yes, um, oh my god? Do you 87 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: is this real? Do you have Deepak cho Deepak Chopra's number? 88 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: Of course I do, Deepox. He would be perfect. Oh, 89 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: he would be I don't want to bother him though. Okay, well, 90 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: well let's see if we could track him down. He's 91 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: usually just sitting around his apartment in New York. Oh 92 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: my god, this would be amazing. I feel like an idiot. 93 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Of course, let's call deepop This is one of five 94 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: numbers you have in your roods. Why I didn't land 95 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: on that one to begin with? It's crazy? But then again, 96 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, I forgot I have nine one one in there? Also? 97 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: Have you ever forgotten that number? I can't say that 98 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: I have, but I just it's like a security blanket. 99 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: I think if I took the nine one card out 100 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: of my rolodex, I'd panic and I'd forget. What is 101 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: the number for emergency? Do you know what the number 102 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: for information is? Non emergency information? Yeah? Can you write 103 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: that in that blank rollodex right there? Three? One? Okay, 104 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: got it? And then this weekend, I know you're not 105 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: doing anything because you're never doing anything. I have some 106 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: can you find out where girl with a lip ring 107 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: do some research stry to tracker downy? I mean I 108 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: can make flyers, I guess sure. Okay, all great ideas. 109 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: Can you rin Assessna an airplane and drop the flyers 110 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: out of the plane World War two style? Yes? I 111 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: feel like that must be illegal. We won't know it's 112 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: illegal until we try it or until we ask just 113 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: do it. Okay, this is out of our budget, I think, 114 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: but I will look into Okay, so we are currently 115 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna go to break as we try to track 116 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: down Mr Deepak Chopra fingers crossed. We'll see what happens, 117 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: and we're back in the Ron Burgundy podcast. We are 118 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: about to dial Mr Deepak Chopra, good friend of mine, 119 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: to get into the topic of spirituality. So Carolina, go 120 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: ahead and die up our friend Mr Deepak Ray. He's 121 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: going to be thrilled and duco for solo. Hello is 122 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: deep back? There. Who's this Hi, This is Stephanie. Hang up, 123 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: Hang up, quickly, hang up, hang up? Okay, okay, okay, 124 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: who dodged a bullet on that one? Who's Stephanie mixing 125 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: the numbers? Yeah? Oh, but you know what Stephanie knows, 126 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: girl with the lip ring to go through her? Okay, 127 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: all right, try try this other number, the one that's 128 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: if you scrape away that kicked on barbecue sauce, you 129 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: can get the rest of them, the rest of the 130 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: number there. This is perfect cute. Well it's not blood, 131 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: it's not human blood. Okay, do you have it there? Okay? 132 00:08:53,720 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: Dialing Mr deepak Bra Hello, Hi is this deep Yeah, Depark, 133 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: so wonderful to have you here via satellite phone. Thank 134 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: you for being a part of the podcast today. Thank 135 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: you on it's a pleasure to be with you. Where 136 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: where are you calling from right now? Somewhere somewhere exotic? 137 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: Actually I lived non locally, but my physical body is 138 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: in New York at the moment. You live non locally 139 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: and but the physical body? Yes, Um, what does that 140 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: mean living? What exactly does that mean? I am and 141 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: I live Wherever I am and where I am has 142 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: no location in space? And time. By saying I am 143 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm not referring to the body mind. I'm referring to 144 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: the awareness in which my body mind is a changing experience. 145 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: So when we say we're in Los Angeles, we are 146 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: are physically were our physic called bodies in Los Angeles, 147 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: but our body mind. But but the fact is that 148 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: Los Angeles is a human construct like latitude and longitude 149 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: are a human construct. Of money is a human construct. 150 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: Of wall streets is a human construct. Greinwich mean time 151 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: is a human concerts Philadelphia is not a human construct 152 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: that places it is. I don't know about that, yeah, exactly. 153 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: So what is it that creates those constructs? Why do 154 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: human beings creates stories around raw experience? Why do they 155 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: do that? Patients? Yes? Why? Because we are storytellers, That's it. 156 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: We're the only species who tells stories, including a story 157 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: called nation state, or story called religion, a story called science. 158 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: And then we mess up and we create climate change 159 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: and war and terrorism and eco destruction and extinction of 160 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: species and violence. We are we're in same species. Well, 161 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: there is a raccoon that lives in my backyard. He 162 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: tells me stories every Sunday night. Does that count No, 163 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: you interpret the stories. Run are you? I swear he 164 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: talks to me? Okay, Well, then in that case you 165 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: you have broken the mold. You are into inter species communication. 166 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: That's where it's all about what the perceptual experience of 167 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: the rackooness Deepak. Let me ask you this, when when 168 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: you were in school, did your friends call you d 169 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: money or was it always just Deepak? They calls me deep? Okay? 170 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: I like that that works on many different levels because 171 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: you are a deep person and deep yes. Um, let 172 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: me ask you, what would you tell someone who just 173 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: has questions about life. Well, on a very superficial level, 174 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: I would say life is a sexually transmitted into watch it, 175 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: watch it, d money, watch it. Life is a sexually 176 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: transmitted in durable condition. On a deeper level, life is 177 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: all there is. Without life, there is no experience. True 178 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: life is all what we call the body, what we 179 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: call the world, what we call anything that we give 180 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: a name to is it actually created in consciousness? And 181 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: once we agree on the meaning of the world, it 182 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: becomes our reality. I know that you probably are a 183 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: huge proponent of of trying to live more In the moment, 184 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: I would assume that Um and I have trouble because 185 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm always thinking, Oh, I've got to plan my next vacation. 186 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: Oh what should I have for lunch? Should I have 187 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: a grilled cheese sandwich or tuna? You know? What what 188 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: steps should we take to just slow down and live 189 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: more in the moment? Yeah, Ron, that's a very important question, 190 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: because if you're not living in the moment and always 191 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: um in the future of the past, then you're not 192 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: really here. You know that what's his name, Wittgenstein, the 193 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: German philosopher, that we are asleep. Life is a dream, 194 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: But once in a while we wake up enough to 195 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: know that we're dreaming, and we wake up to ourselves, 196 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: which is this this presence that we call now. So 197 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: everything that is even a trillionth of a second in 198 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: the past or a trillionth of a second in the 199 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: future is a dream. So we are in fact living 200 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: a dream reality. And if you're always anticipating the future 201 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: when it finally arrives, you won't be there for it. 202 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: So what's the point. Sometimes I wake up and I 203 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: am running down the middle lane of the freeway in 204 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: my underwear, screaming at the top of my lunch. What 205 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: does that mean? Means that you're having a panic attack. 206 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, you're having existential anxiety. Fair enough, What 207 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: what is your hope for the human race? Can I 208 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: ask you that? I think if you really want, um 209 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: my honest opinion, the human race is doomed to extinction. 210 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: We've it's it's an experiment that didn't work out. So 211 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: I think either we evolve to a new stage of 212 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: our being or we're doomed like the dinosaurs. So we're 213 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: up creek without a paddle. Yeah, we need to take 214 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: a leap in our imagination to see what a peaceful, 215 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: just sustainable, healthier and joyful world could be because it exists. 216 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: It exists in our imagination at the moment. If we 217 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: somehow evolved and developed gills and could breathe underwater with 218 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: that help, I think it would help unless we created 219 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: the junkyard underwater as well, But we're doing right now, 220 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think nothing will happen. We could go 221 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: into outer space and still create junk over there. So 222 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: the only thing that could help is our own transformation. 223 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: So at our in our pure essence, we're just nasty creatures. 224 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: We have the potential, though, for being both divine and babolical. 225 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: So right now we actually expressed our diabolical tendencies, but 226 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: we have the other tendency too. Do you have any 227 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: TV shows? Do you have any favorite TV shows? Do 228 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: you like? I used to watch Candid Camera that really 229 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of fun. And I wish the whole 230 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: world would watch stuff like that. Then they wouldn't be 231 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: so nationalist an angry, and you know, they'd understand the 232 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: human conditions little more because you know, well, Run that 233 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: humor is is dealing with contradiction and paradox and ambiguity, 234 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: and it is actually humor is a way to get 235 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: to our soul, as most art is. Science is the 236 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: language of the mind. I've always said that what you do, 237 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: what you guys do, is language of the soul. That 238 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: is wonderful language of the soul. That science of the mind, 239 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: language of the soul. Yeah, that's a good Do you 240 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: mind if we take that for runs? Could I copyright that? 241 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: You can steal it? Okay? Perfect? Oh my god, thank you. 242 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: This is recorded, so this will stand up in a 243 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: in a court of law. Thank you. Deepak. If you 244 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: would honor us and lead us in a bit of 245 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: a meditation here, we would we would love to to 246 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: go along with you here. Sure, so wherever you are 247 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: if you can, unless you're driving. Wherever you are, just 248 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: sit quietly, put your feet firmly on the ground, and 249 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: keep your eyes closed or close your eyes and start 250 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: to observe your breath and just watching the breath will 251 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: slow it down. And since breath and sort go together, 252 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: just watching the breath, your mind will settle. And now 253 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: bring it into or bring your awareness into your heart 254 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: in the middle of the chest, and then mentally asked 255 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: the following question who am I? What am I? Antially meant, 256 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: and then don't try to answer it. Just be aware 257 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: of any sensation, image, feeling or thought that comes to you. 258 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: Do it a pull of times, a few times mentally 259 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: who am I? What am I? If you want to 260 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: go deeper, say who who wants to know? Who wants? 261 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: What is it that wants to know? Just observing any sensations, images, feelings, thoughts. 262 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: That's spontaneously right a chicken caesar salad reading, And now 263 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: ask the question what do I want? What is my 264 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: deepest desire? Once again allowing any sensations, images, feelings, or 265 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: thoughts to spontaneously. Riss Is are you dying. Two more questions, 266 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: what is my purpose? Fantasy lead? Why do I do 267 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: what I do? Have a w n B a fantasy leak, 268 00:18:54,240 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: allowing any sensation, image, feeling, or thought to come to you? Yes, 269 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: Sueperd had assists. And now the final question points what 270 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: am I grateful for? Not firelight like allowing any sensation, image, feeling, 271 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: a thought to come to And now just feel your body, 272 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: feel the sensations in your body. It takes a few 273 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: seconds and open your right m. This is a meditation 274 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: in reflective self inquiry. Now is it, customer? My wallet 275 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: is gone? Yeah? Is that? I told you money is 276 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: a human construct? Because someone made it up? Someone took 277 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: my wallet, just saying whether whether it's a human construct 278 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: or not, Well, that's not your concern and we've got 279 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: to get at that here. While my eyes were shut 280 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: and was blowing, my heart rate stole. Well, you exchange 281 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: your inner being and that was the payment. But your 282 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: idea wasn't there? Right? Okay? Um, Well what I feel 283 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: very very calm. Oh, I'm so happy. We can do 284 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: other kinds of meditations. You know, there's awareness of mind, 285 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: awareness of emotions, awareness of body, aware awareness of perception 286 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: of relationship, transcendence, meditation. Most people don't understand meditation. They 287 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: think it's a system of thought, but actually it's a 288 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: way of bypassing thought. So we're not supposed to pay 289 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: attention to our thoughts. No, whatever happens is fine. But 290 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: you can see that most of your thoughts on at 291 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: your own they're recycling public information, so you don't have 292 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: to be victimized by thought. Can you teach me how 293 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: to levitate or levitate an object? Yes, but we'd have 294 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: to be there together. And how much would that cost me? 295 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: Huh nothing? Oh? Okay, good, Wow, I'd be charging with 296 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: a lot of money. I mean, I know that's a 297 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: human construct, but i'd be charging. Once you realize that 298 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: the physical body is an illusion, then you can do 299 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: whatever you want. It's part of the dream like that. 300 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: So the next time I'm at a Lakers game and 301 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: I don't have a ticket, I can just walk right 302 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: down to the front row and I can just say 303 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: that you are on the human body you want is Yeah, Well, 304 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: their security is pretty tight, very tight. Trust me. Deep. 305 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, what's your nine to five? Like, 306 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: what's a typical day for Deep? Actobra. Typical days, I 307 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: woke wake up very early. I wake up around four 308 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: thirty five. I spend two hours in reflection and meditation. 309 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: I do one hour yoga every day, and then after that, 310 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: I just shoot the breeze. I'm meaning, I do whatever 311 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: I feel like, and it's like I'm singing my song 312 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: and some people enjoy hearing it. And then in the 313 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: evening I do a shortter meditation. I go for a 314 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: long walk in New York City, and before I sleep, 315 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: I meditate on the mystery of death. Holy smokes, I 316 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: don't know. But I'm seventy two. I don't have to 317 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: face the fact that I'm in the final chapters of 318 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: my life. You're on the you're on the back nine, 319 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: as I say, the golf world, Yes, what do we do? Deepark? 320 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: If like, what do you do with criticism? Or if 321 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: anyone's mean to you? Yeah? What if someone walks up 322 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: to you while you're on your walk through New York 323 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: City and say, hey, Bob, out of my way. Um, 324 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: if it's a homeless person, I give them twenty dollars. 325 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: If it's somebody else, I just keep walking. And I 326 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: used to get offended by the good and by the 327 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: bad opinions of others. It was never immune to criticism, 328 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: but then I worked on it and write this moment 329 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: in my life, I'm immune to both criticism and flattery. 330 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: With growing older kind of you're just middle of the road, 331 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, well, I let it pass. It's not 332 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: important if you're If you are always concerned about what 333 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: other people think about you, then you'll be offended for 334 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: the rest of your life. I need to work on 335 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: that because I still love compliments so much, and criticism 336 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: just it reduces me to rubble. Usually if Ron gets criticized, 337 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: he just sits down wherever he is in the middle 338 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: of the floor. I just pout, well, well the seat, Ron. 339 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: The secret to power is to be is to be 340 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: immune to criticism and flattery, to be fearless, and to 341 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: feel beneath no one. That's called self power. Everything else's 342 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: agency power. It can be taken away from you in 343 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: the blink of an eye. But the flattery is pretty 344 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: fun though. Still. Yeah, if you're eight years old to 345 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: se to see my friend, well, you know what, in 346 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: some ways we should We should always hope that we 347 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: act like eight year old. That's true, But some eight 348 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: years end up being heads of state. That's true. Deep, 349 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: my man, you're on fire right now. You are on fire, 350 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: my friend. Um. We cannot thank you enough for being 351 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: on the podcast today. Thank you for taking us on 352 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: a Thank you so much. It was an Oh, I'm 353 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: very grateful. Thank you, and I hope to see you 354 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: guys sometimes. If I never in New York, I'll call you. 355 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: Let's go out for a beer and maybe I can 356 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: sleep on your floor. Sure, well, treat you to a 357 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: good conica and you'll be making it in your nervous 358 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: system so we won't have to go out. Perfect sounds good. 359 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Thank you so much. Thank you so much, everyone, 360 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. The Ron Burgundy Podcast. We'll be 361 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: right back, and we are back. You are listening to 362 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: the Ron Burgundy Podcast once again, right thanks to Mr Deep. 363 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: What a fascinating individual, amazing, just completely has let go 364 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: of the earthly realm. We're dreaming. It's pretty fascinating. We 365 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: still haven't found my wallet, we're still look. I know 366 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: that's a man made construct, but that man made construct 367 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: was filled with two thousand dollars in cash. Yeah, I know. 368 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: It's a problem. Yeah, that's a problem. Well, there's only 369 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: a few people in the studio. That's more than half 370 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: of what's in my checking account. Anyway, we'll figure it out. 371 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. Um. But boy, Deepak, he sent 372 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: a shiver through my spine. He doesn't have a lot 373 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: of hope for the human race to figure it out. 374 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: And girls won't help us either. Deals will not help. 375 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: I thought for sure that was going to be the 376 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: lightbulb moment. You always call that your backup. We can 377 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: develop guills. In fact, if I was Bill Gates, I 378 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: would will all my money to the research and development 379 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: of gills for humans, Guild Development. Guild Development. I don't know, 380 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: that's a real that might be a waste. And the 381 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: theme song for the charity of Old Development would be 382 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: sung by Country Western start Vince Gille. Oh, and we 383 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: need a theme song for the Guilt. If they wanted 384 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: to have one, we'd call it Vince Gille. I mean, 385 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: it's a it's an idea. I'm a dreamer, I know, 386 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: and I'm a dreamer. Um. Okay, let's go to our 387 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: fact check. Well, there's no reason to have a fact 388 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: check today, because as Deepak laid it out for us 389 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: so eloquently. Um, these are all human constructs. They don't 390 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: really exists. Okay, you're gonna go against the money, No, no, no, 391 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: I just all get him right back on the phone. 392 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: We'll go right around with this world flat. There was 393 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: just human construct all right. Then I'll just scratch this. Yeah, off, 394 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess we'll just move on. Yeah, we will, 395 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: we will move on. Here's my final thoughts. Please, what 396 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: do you know? I went looking for answers in all 397 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: the wrong places, and I realized there is oneness in 398 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: us all we just have to connect. And oh wait, 399 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: oh gosh, I just realized I left my jacket and 400 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: Skyler's toyota. Maybe my wallet was in the jack. Okay, CAROLINEA, 401 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go over to his house and 402 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: pick it up for me, all right after after we 403 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: finish her right now, No, no, tomorrow, after he's already 404 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: sold it for hash yes now please all right, um, okay, 405 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: I'll be back in a s and and bring a 406 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: bone to throw at the doverman in his front yard. 407 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: It's not a it's not human friendly. Can can she 408 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: hear me? Does she already leave? Oh? Carolina, let her 409 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: know about anyway. That's all for now, folks, catch you 410 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: on the Flip Side podcast. By bye. 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