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Speaker 1: it's so important, you know, for people of our community
Speaker 1: to know about finances, to know about what to do,
Speaker 1: to know and in this day and time, you know,
Speaker 1: we usually you know, give these rappers these intros. What
Speaker 1: I want to do right now, I want to I
Speaker 1: want you guys to break it down. Um say, say
Speaker 1: your name, what you do and then bring it that
Speaker 1: to the fast. Just know, for off top, first of all,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it so Rasha one half for Earn Your Leisha.
Speaker 1: Earn Your Leisure media platform started four years ago and
Speaker 1: talk about financial literacy, business empowerment. Um. You know, We've
Speaker 1: created uh podcast network, we do a lot of events.
Speaker 1: We just did ms G that was crazy, So pretty much,
Speaker 1: I guess the best way to describe it as a
Speaker 1: platform and a movement for people that are interested in learning,
Speaker 1: educating themselves and really get into to really learning about
Speaker 1: money from the you know, the real root of it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm try the other half of Earn Your Leisure.
Speaker 1: Like you said, financial literacy platform, it's really about teaching
Speaker 1: sustainable wealth. You know what I'm saying. Lots of people
Speaker 1: talk about generational wealth, but they never tell you once
Speaker 1: you get the money, what you do with it. And
Speaker 1: so we see that in a lot of industries. We
Speaker 1: see in athletes and entertainments they get the money and
Speaker 1: they blow it. And so our jobs to educate people
Speaker 1: kick down doors, show different avenues, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so we can maintain the money for generations to come. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm nineteen keys uh the Courtious top Thought leader, you
Speaker 1: understand me. I got a show called High Level Conversations,
Speaker 1: the number one intellectual show in the world. Also have
Speaker 1: a program called b w OH where we teach people mental, physical,
Speaker 1: financial fitness. You understand me, just re engineering the mind,
Speaker 1: knowing yourself, knowing who you are. You understand me, and
Speaker 1: at the same time, knowing how to not only invest
Speaker 1: in knowledge yourself, but how to invest in your communities.
Speaker 1: You understand me. We got a program called Oasis, and
Speaker 1: it's more so when we have an investment group where
Speaker 1: we get to come together and think about how to
Speaker 1: reimagine Black America. So you know, as a young guy,
Speaker 1: I'm just here to get some knowledge. So I don't
Speaker 1: see that, y'all. And I one knows the controversy, right,
Speaker 1: we can't be can't avoid it, right, everyone knows the
Speaker 1: controversy that we had here. He said he was a billionaire, right,
Speaker 1: we respected that, we rooted for that. But then um,
Speaker 1: we had this reports for datas saying that they froze
Speaker 1: his accounts and stuff like that. But then I see
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys interviewed. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: the real black breast like a couple of but but
Speaker 1: but how how is that? Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like and then and then I guess it's a two
Speaker 1: part question because it's like when you were saying he
Speaker 1: was a billion there, did you did you you guys
Speaker 1: are being in the financial back, did you know that
Speaker 1: that he was wasn't he was worth it? And I
Speaker 1: just said, I it's so crazy that you asked that
Speaker 1: question because I was with them in l A, all
Speaker 1: three of us was in l A the day before
Speaker 1: Datas dropped him, and I was saying that I have
Speaker 1: a strong suspicion because you know, people don't understand what
Speaker 1: net worth means. You see the four blift, they see, okay,
Speaker 1: you're worth two billion dollars. They think you actually have
Speaker 1: two billion dollars money, like you like, what's that cartoon?
Speaker 1: And due with swimming, I think you think will come
Speaker 1: up in But really how it works, it's like all
Speaker 1: your assets, right. So I had a strong feeling just
Speaker 1: I don't know call, but just from observing him that
Speaker 1: most of his assets was in that company, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like he had a lot of money in stocks.
Speaker 1: We know he had a huntred fifty million dollars in
Speaker 1: cash because kicked him out of and then he got
Speaker 1: some real thing and stuff like that, So I was
Speaker 1: just saying, like, I think probably ninety percent of his
Speaker 1: money wasn't easy. It's just so happened that I was
Speaker 1: right like a large So when they dropped to him,
Speaker 1: now you have no more easy brand. The only thing
Speaker 1: you have left at your bank accounts from real estates.
Speaker 1: So that's how that four hundred million comes into place.
Speaker 1: If you look at it, he probably got a couple
Speaker 1: of homes. I think he got the ranch of Wyoming.
Speaker 1: He owns like Popper cent and Skims, and he got
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty million dollars in cash that would equal
Speaker 1: around four hundred million dollars. So you're like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: was he ever really a billion? Ye? A lot of money.
Speaker 1: But it's like when you look at it, it's like,
Speaker 1: now he never really had two billion dollars in cash
Speaker 1: that's in the company. And then when he no longer
Speaker 1: has a company, now you lose everything. So it's like
Speaker 1: a car, like if you have no money to your
Speaker 1: name at all, Right, and then you got a may back. Right,
Speaker 1: let's say that may back is three hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Right now you're worth three hundred thousand dollars because you
Speaker 1: can sell that if somebody's gonna buy it. But let's
Speaker 1: say that that car burns up, you don't have insurance.
Speaker 1: Now you're worth nothing. That's how you kind of kind
Speaker 1: of look at it as far as like so when
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, most of their wealth is
Speaker 1: in their company, so that's what happened, we're easy. And
Speaker 1: when they you know, when they took that away, then
Speaker 1: you know he didn't have a company. He still was
Speaker 1: a billionaire. He was a billionaire. And people's based on
Speaker 1: projective wealth as well. Most of wealth in America's an illusion.
Speaker 1: Most of the wealth in the world is an illusion.
Speaker 1: It's based on evaluation. You understand when you see it
Speaker 1: a nerve white boy throw out an idea getting evaluation
Speaker 1: for a billion dollars in a company versus somebody that's
Speaker 1: in the court here that is one of the most
Speaker 1: influential people in the world. If their ideas worth a billion,
Speaker 1: how is not his presence influence catalog and intellectual property.
Speaker 1: I think the the idea of billionaires and things of
Speaker 1: that nature is that we never controlled the evaluations, right,
Speaker 1: like how much is jay Z's catalog and Beyonce's catalog
Speaker 1: and how much is Kanye's catalog worth I know he
Speaker 1: don't own full mastery of it, but he's getting it
Speaker 1: over time. But that's sort of the question because we've
Speaker 1: never learned how to truly evaluate ourselves. Right. I would
Speaker 1: say the things that he has in his intellectual property
Speaker 1: is worth the billion, right because when he went to
Speaker 1: Adidas with that, he was making them one or two
Speaker 1: billion dollars per year, so they lost more money than
Speaker 1: Kanye West did. But it's not framed that way because
Speaker 1: we don't control the media. So therefore the narratives about
Speaker 1: our evaluations, it's not put out there correctly, right, It's
Speaker 1: a why just think about it? How come nobody in
Speaker 1: the court has surpassed one billion dollars? How come there's
Speaker 1: no two, three, four or five ten billion dollars right now?
Speaker 1: They just announced and the announced you but you know
Speaker 1: why pick off that? Remember blow when um, when Bro
Speaker 1: was in jail and and he was selling George George
Speaker 1: George boy, that was Boston George, right, So if you
Speaker 1: remember he used to sell weed at first when he
Speaker 1: got locked up, the dude from Colombia was like, you
Speaker 1: you're hustling the wrong product. Put on kid, so you're
Speaker 1: on the wrong product. So we're hustling the wrong product too.
Speaker 1: If you look at our billionaires and no disrespect, but
Speaker 1: it's too entertainment spirits different things in that nation. So
Speaker 1: this is why it's like I was talking Temple and
Speaker 1: he like they say Jays he's a billionaire, but to me,
Speaker 1: he's he's worth sixty billion. Like look at the level
Speaker 1: of excellence that he had to reach to get to
Speaker 1: one billion. When they got to do like Sam BigMan,
Speaker 1: Foyd got her like he worth twenty eight billion. Nobody
Speaker 1: even knew who he was because it's TechEd out who
Speaker 1: got you got this interview? Who's not. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is you're not two separate that's worth thirty billion dollars.
Speaker 1: You never heard of technology, crypto, different things. This is
Speaker 1: this is, this is what we need to get more
Speaker 1: into because it's like you can only go so far
Speaker 1: as to ceiling. Like he said, Oprah been worth one
Speaker 1: point five billion for ten years? How is that even possible?
Speaker 1: How is everybody worth one billion? Tyler Perry did he,
Speaker 1: jay Z, Kanye wet every single person only got more
Speaker 1: of I don't want to announce it, but that's that's
Speaker 1: part of it too, right, So in order in order
Speaker 1: to have the evaluation, you gotta cooperate. And so we
Speaker 1: interviewed Don Peoples, who was one of the wealthiest black
Speaker 1: men in real estate in the history of America. He
Speaker 1: stopped cooperating with them, so you don't really know how
Speaker 1: much he's worth. And if you go to other countries,
Speaker 1: they don't cooperate as either. And so when we look
Speaker 1: at guys like Elon must and we're like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: he's actually number two. Now, no, just passed him. But
Speaker 1: what do you mean by co operating? You have to
Speaker 1: tell them what you're doing to see what your your
Speaker 1: assets are, right, So if you don't know my assets,
Speaker 1: how can you evaluate through a lot of times we
Speaker 1: forget that part. And so like when we when we
Speaker 1: talk about wealth and we look at like a guy
Speaker 1: like Ellen and what saying is correct. A lot of
Speaker 1: the money is tied into the company. And so when
Speaker 1: we see Tesla at three hundred dollars, right, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: the wealthiest man in the world. Right, But when Tesla
Speaker 1: stopped drops, you see his wealth drop as well. So
Speaker 1: now he's down there. I mean it sounds crazy, but
Speaker 1: he's down like a hundred eight billion, but that's not
Speaker 1: three thirty billion that he was about six months ago,
Speaker 1: and so it's tied to it. But the other part
Speaker 1: is the evaluation, and so most people forget that part.
Speaker 1: It was like how much your company is worth? But
Speaker 1: evaluation sometimes it's just somebody with a lot of money
Speaker 1: telling you what something is exactly, and so that that
Speaker 1: scale is dictated by somebody else. And so if you
Speaker 1: have a tech company, they may say like, oh, you
Speaker 1: have certain components, how much money have you generated, Oh,
Speaker 1: you generated twenty million. That multiple can be five x,
Speaker 1: and so you had a twenty million dollar company, but
Speaker 1: they evaluated it out of five x multiple, that company
Speaker 1: is not worth a hundred million. And so that's how
Speaker 1: you get these evaluations like a hundred million a billion
Speaker 1: dollar company, like you saw with face Clan. Face Clan
Speaker 1: is a media company that started in gaming. Right, they
Speaker 1: generated fifty million dollars, but they had so many different
Speaker 1: assets under the umbrella that when the company wanted to
Speaker 1: purchase it, they said, yeah, we're gonna give him a
Speaker 1: twenty x mo to both. So when you do the
Speaker 1: fifty million times twin x multiple, that's how you get
Speaker 1: a billion dollars evaluation, and that's how you could actually
Speaker 1: get that bigger the liquid you have to you have
Speaker 1: to make it hit that it's not gonna so you
Speaker 1: take it. So now you take the company public to
Speaker 1: the stock market. There you go. That's the next So
Speaker 1: it's levels like you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
Speaker 1: now you realize we talked about stocks, right, and I
Speaker 1: know if I know you tapped in right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: four thousand crypto. He told me about crypto so long ago.
Speaker 1: Four thousand stocks on the stock market. At the four
Speaker 1: thousand stocks on stock market? How many four thousand companies?
Speaker 1: How many think is black on at a four thousand?
Speaker 1: At a four thousand zero with a d of them?
Speaker 1: What's I guess? Damn, I don't know. This is a
Speaker 1: lot different. Just think about that, right, like we celebrate,
Speaker 1: keep bringing it down, keep bringing you gotta sit boy
Speaker 1: only plastic company, well company total. So it's like think
Speaker 1: about that, bro, that's crazy in the stock So what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So it's like that's real wealth. Take it.
Speaker 1: You take your company public. Now you can get a
Speaker 1: twenty billion dollar evaluation. Now you can have five billion
Speaker 1: dollars in stocks, or a hundred million dollars in stocks,
Speaker 1: like this is the game that's being played with Like,
Speaker 1: like I said, going back to the Boston Georgian allity,
Speaker 1: a lot of times we're just playing the wrong game.
Speaker 1: We're not thinking big enough. Let me ask you. Obviously
Speaker 1: we can't name this company, but at one point this
Speaker 1: company was coming to us trying to buy us out,
Speaker 1: and they were offering us a whole bunch of liquid,
Speaker 1: but they was offering us so much in stocks, and
Speaker 1: we were just like, what if this company belly up, Like,
Speaker 1: we'll never make what we're actually worth. What we're supposed
Speaker 1: to do, that was we're supposed to say, Yo, let's
Speaker 1: let's let's invest in the stocks. The stocks. Remember what
Speaker 1: the CEO said, he said, take a chance with me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a chance and taking it. I want
Speaker 1: to say to day so bad. I think I know
Speaker 1: the name and based on the time and of it,
Speaker 1: especially like since the market is pulled back at the time,
Speaker 1: it might not have been a great idea. But you
Speaker 1: gotta look at the evalue. What do you believe in
Speaker 1: the company right, especially that now that you're a part
Speaker 1: of it, What does that due to the value of
Speaker 1: the company, and not just this year, but let's say
Speaker 1: ten years down the road. Right, if you're talking about
Speaker 1: from a media standpoint, if everything is going streaming and
Speaker 1: this company is leading in that space, right, where does
Speaker 1: that stock go? Right? Because let's say you got the
Speaker 1: deal and they said, all right, well you're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna give you stock options at forty five dollars, right,
Speaker 1: But in ten years that forty five stock option turns
Speaker 1: into ninety dollars. Now you just each on each share.
Speaker 1: But it's possible, but it's also possible. It doesn't possibly
Speaker 1: that these people were just you know the story. You
Speaker 1: know the story in vitamin water. Part of not really
Speaker 1: break it down. Everybody knows fifty made a bunch of
Speaker 1: money on vitamin water. When nobody knows is that he
Speaker 1: invested it, not even that vitamin water. They're from Queens.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the gods from Queens. So originally, like they
Speaker 1: started the company, they don't really have enough money to really, like,
Speaker 1: you know, so to offer these celebrities like contracts. But
Speaker 1: they know that celebrities is a way to kind of
Speaker 1: grow the brand. So and I don't want to get
Speaker 1: the numbers wrong. I don't want to offend anybody, but
Speaker 1: they want to a few people. At first. One of
Speaker 1: the people being around our tests. They offered on our
Speaker 1: tests the same deal they offered fifty cents run our tests.
Speaker 1: Wanted a couple of hundred thousand dollars in cash, They
Speaker 1: didn't have a couple hundred thousand dollars in Cad said, look,
Speaker 1: we can't pay you a couple hundred thousand dollars in cash,
Speaker 1: but we can't give you equity on our tests. Ain't
Speaker 1: understand it. He ain't believe in it, and passed on it.
Speaker 1: Fifty cent came took the same deal with took equity.
Speaker 1: Fast forward eighteen months later, Coca Cola went and bought it. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we haven't truly learned how to leverage and really get
Speaker 1: into the idea equity enough in our courtship because we
Speaker 1: want to have a hundred percent ownership instead of a
Speaker 1: percentage of something that can tend next. Right, And so
Speaker 1: the difference is it's like if I build a company
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, by myself, I can get
Speaker 1: it to do let's say a million dollars a year, right,
Speaker 1: But let's say if I give away fifty percent of it.
Speaker 1: I can get it to do ten million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: you understand me. So what would be I don't understand
Speaker 1: a hundred percent of a company that a partner, let's
Speaker 1: say Troy was shot all y'all the group, I say,
Speaker 1: y'all gonna help me, market, y'all gonna do with the branding, psduction,
Speaker 1: the whole nine. So instead of me just only a
Speaker 1: hundred percent of a million dollars, our own fifty percent
Speaker 1: of ten million dollars. So we haven't learned how to
Speaker 1: build something that didn't leverage the equity of it. You
Speaker 1: understand me by owning a percentage of it, because we
Speaker 1: haven't historically had nothing, we think we need all of
Speaker 1: it to feel like owners instead of learning the actual
Speaker 1: science of business, right, most people they build a company
Speaker 1: and their whole ideas, how can I give away a
Speaker 1: part of this company, right, so that it's worth a
Speaker 1: certain amounts so that they can do more, because by
Speaker 1: yourself you can only do so much. So it's really
Speaker 1: just reframing the way we go about business. Most people
Speaker 1: build businesses to sell them, you understand me. And so
Speaker 1: when you're doing that, you're building the framework completely different.
Speaker 1: Rather than saying how can I own this? Now, there's
Speaker 1: generation of wealth where you build certain companies you want
Speaker 1: to have in the family forever. Right, And we know
Speaker 1: the Chase Banks, we know the code gates, we know
Speaker 1: you know certain families who have had businesses for a
Speaker 1: hundred plus years that they've been able to pass down
Speaker 1: in their family and we use those as household products today.
Speaker 1: So there is you know, value and maintaining companies within
Speaker 1: right the family. But there's also value and giving away
Speaker 1: equity so that you can grow that company so that
Speaker 1: they can become bigger and they become a household that
Speaker 1: and even even even the companies that remained like Walmart
Speaker 1: right in the way, they still gave up some equity
Speaker 1: because it's a it's a publicly traded company. So they
Speaker 1: take the company to the stock market. That means everybody
Speaker 1: owns a part of it. And that's what, like he said,
Speaker 1: it's like you know when you don't use, when you're
Speaker 1: not used to having something you just hoarded because and
Speaker 1: rightfully so, because it's like for years we always had
Speaker 1: stuff taken away from us. You look at Black Wallster,
Speaker 1: you look at Freeman's Bag, you look at so much stuff.
Speaker 1: Anytime that we had something, they took it away from us.
Speaker 1: So psychologically we still look at like a hoarder, like
Speaker 1: even with the information. It's like, but that's how we
Speaker 1: change the game where it's like Tiger Woods teaching somebody
Speaker 1: how to hit a golf ball doesn't affect him. It doesn't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make him less of a up a golfer.
Speaker 1: Like what I'm saying me sharing information with you doesn't
Speaker 1: actually hurt me at all. That's what we didn't understand.
Speaker 1: But but by the way, like, by the way, for
Speaker 1: the first time I sees you brothers, I was like,
Speaker 1: day job is way more dangerous than moms because I'm
Speaker 1: just being honest. It's like like like like you're telling
Speaker 1: of people like I'm helping people career. You know, we're
Speaker 1: helping people career come back in order. You guys are
Speaker 1: telling people, look, you can make you money and keep
Speaker 1: you money and you can build a whole company. Like
Speaker 1: that's dangerous. But why is it dangerous? Though? Who opposed?
Speaker 1: It's who do we have? Who examples? We have a y'all.
Speaker 1: Prior to y'all, who who was preaching and being cool?
Speaker 1: Like I mean people, we just didn't respect he was
Speaker 1: the preacher. He was the preacher that was smelling like culture.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So we prop that we
Speaker 1: we are great consumers, right, we're not great producers, you
Speaker 1: understand me. We are a culture that over consumes everybody
Speaker 1: else's everything. Even when we go buy their brands, we're
Speaker 1: not particularly binding because of the quality. Were binding because
Speaker 1: of the branding. Right, we want to have somebody else
Speaker 1: name to give us value and aspiration. We haven't learned
Speaker 1: to take that. At one point eight trillion and having
Speaker 1: much money, we haven't spending power and turned into an
Speaker 1: investment dollar. Once we do that, now we have the
Speaker 1: power of an entire nation, right when it reaches nations
Speaker 1: on the planet Earth. The problem is is at number one,
Speaker 1: we don't have collective sense of unity, collect the sense
Speaker 1: of ownership, collect the sense of pride. We talk about culture,
Speaker 1: but curture as this word that's thrown around so often,
Speaker 1: but don't have that much meaning. Right, It's it's decentralizes
Speaker 1: everywhere and everybody can say they are part of the
Speaker 1: culture because they make a hot song, not because they're
Speaker 1: part of some values, some standards, some principles, whatsoever. So
Speaker 1: my whole thing is like now looking at each one
Speaker 1: of us, like, we can all be brown and black men,
Speaker 1: but what's your ethnicity? Right, Like, what is your values,
Speaker 1: your principles, your religion, your ideology or philosophy, what are
Speaker 1: those things you stand on? Because we get it confused
Speaker 1: because we look at each other and they all the
Speaker 1: same color, but we all have different beliefs. Right, so
Speaker 1: now we can't build with each other because I may
Speaker 1: be talking about equity and ownership and building the entrepreneurship,
Speaker 1: but your values may be completely different. But I gotta
Speaker 1: confuse because I'm looking at the construct the race rather
Speaker 1: than what's our ethnic ground. So men like myself, black Muslim,
Speaker 1: masculine man with knowledge of self, you understand me ethnically,
Speaker 1: we don't get inclusion. When they talk diversity and inclusion,
Speaker 1: they're not talking about people like me now, they're talking
Speaker 1: about the effeminated version of those who believe the same
Speaker 1: things that they believe. So they can be black on
Speaker 1: the outside but white on the inside. Right in the
Speaker 1: movies and TVs entertainment, there's no representation of my archetype. Right,
Speaker 1: many the people who think like me, look like me,
Speaker 1: move like me. So when you talk about it being dangerous,
Speaker 1: you understand me. It's only dangerous because this is the
Speaker 1: primal solution, right, and everybody else gets defeated. We make
Speaker 1: our people producers. We're producing our own goods and services.
Speaker 1: That means we don't have to go outside our community,
Speaker 1: and we stay uneducated, and we stay living in what
Speaker 1: I like to call financial deserts where we don't have
Speaker 1: access to somebody who has a financial education that can
Speaker 1: give us advice on wealth and how to build business
Speaker 1: and how to maintain our assets. Right, then we're gonna
Speaker 1: always be the victims of some of everybody else courture
Speaker 1: who does have that knowledge. Everybody else eats off us,
Speaker 1: the Asian man, you know, us, a Jewish man, the
Speaker 1: Messican man, everybody, because we don't produce our own anything,
Speaker 1: so that means we have to go outside our community.
Speaker 1: So when they see that at one point eight trillion,
Speaker 1: and we say no, let's circulate that amongst us, that's
Speaker 1: directly also as saying let's take it off the table.
Speaker 1: But how do we do that? Like, let's just get
Speaker 1: straight to it. It's not wait, like, how do we
Speaker 1: like I like, for instance, like I love the fact
Speaker 1: that was it slutty vegan whenever they like whether you're
Speaker 1: vegan or not? You know what I mean? Like, how
Speaker 1: do we make more of that? So I think it
Speaker 1: goes back to having a level of pride person foremost,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's so crazy because like how
Speaker 1: I was raised, how it was brought up, everything is black.
Speaker 1: So it's like I still carry that with me to
Speaker 1: this day. So like my dentist is black, my doctor
Speaker 1: is black, my lawyer is black, my account is black.
Speaker 1: And I'm not doing that because I'm like it's just natural,
Speaker 1: Like why would I not do it? And I'm not
Speaker 1: compromising because they still qualified. I'm still like, you know, vetting,
Speaker 1: But it's like, why would I celebrate having somebody other
Speaker 1: than what? That doesn't even make any sense. We don't
Speaker 1: want people that do that, like what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like I was it's crazy because I was just
Speaker 1: outside the hotel today and this guy ran up for
Speaker 1: h me. He's like, yeah, I love you all. You
Speaker 1: started talking to them and he's like yo. He's like
Speaker 1: I was talking to this Jewish guy one time and
Speaker 1: he told me you see this dollar and he's like yeah.
Speaker 1: He's like you'll never have this dollar. And he's like
Speaker 1: he thought it was a racial thing, but then he
Speaker 1: broke it down to him. He said, look, when I
Speaker 1: spend this dollar, I'm spending it at a Jewish restaurant
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go to a junior dry clean They're
Speaker 1: gonna put it in a Jewish bank. He was like,
Speaker 1: you're never gonna see this because it's never gonna leave
Speaker 1: our community. And they say they say the black dollar
Speaker 1: leads in the community. I think within six minutes or
Speaker 1: something like some crazy like I think everyone knows what
Speaker 1: Kanye was saying, wasn't it wasn't too far fetched. I
Speaker 1: think it's how he delivered it. But something I think
Speaker 1: it was the first part is because we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about like building business infrastructure, but the first part is
Speaker 1: you gotta how you view yourself. It's extremely important. Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like, if you don't
Speaker 1: view yourself it's worthy, then you're not going to do
Speaker 1: business with each other. Because if you're looking at somebody
Speaker 1: like a nigga, you're gonna treat them like a nigga.
Speaker 1: If I'm looking at you as my brother, like my brother,
Speaker 1: so it's like, if I see you in a certain light,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be enthusiastic about spending money with you. And
Speaker 1: it's not charity, Like that's what gotta get out of
Speaker 1: that as well, Like if I'm supporting a business, it's
Speaker 1: because I genuinely want to support the business because I
Speaker 1: didn't have to tell you that you have to support Mercedes.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you had it. And it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know, you know I brought that Gucci, now you
Speaker 1: owe me, So we only do that with each other,
Speaker 1: Like that's funny as hell. I went to open and
Speaker 1: BBC and I just went and I bought out. I
Speaker 1: brought out everything, and he was like he kind of
Speaker 1: leaned over. It was like you know, I got you.
Speaker 1: I was like no, like like I gotta support. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm here for. Like what the funk I
Speaker 1: need a hook up for? But you know I wanted
Speaker 1: to support And it's like I forget what else even
Speaker 1: vent his frames like you know, um Corey, like he
Speaker 1: wouldn't open up and I just went and bought out everything.
Speaker 1: And then it's like, you know, so many people and
Speaker 1: it reminds me of that's how many people like people
Speaker 1: think that they're supposed to get ship for free. If
Speaker 1: that's if that, if that your brother, that ship got
Speaker 1: to stop. We got that's the mentality though, But it
Speaker 1: goes back to you said, like where are we supposed
Speaker 1: to learn it from? That's why like this moment right here,
Speaker 1: like being on drink Champs, this is important. It's a
Speaker 1: street with important because for so long, especially our generation,
Speaker 1: we grew up watching right, so we watched Puff, we
Speaker 1: watched Jay, we watch uh cash Money, we watched all
Speaker 1: these examples. We saw it happening. We just didn't know
Speaker 1: how it's happening, and we only thought we can get
Speaker 1: it through the couple of lanes. Like if we entertain this,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough, all right, we gotta do the athletes.
Speaker 1: If we don't do those two things, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really tough. Right until you start seeing like wait, this
Speaker 1: is more to this, like we uncovered like yo, let's
Speaker 1: look at other people and other places of the world
Speaker 1: who are actually accumulating wealth. Right, So when you never
Speaker 1: hear about illegal Dan Godi, but he's about the black
Speaker 1: man on the planet, right, nobody talks about that because
Speaker 1: he's not a force, is not putting them on the list.
Speaker 1: But illegal Dan Godi and he got he didn't get
Speaker 1: it from entertainment. He didn't get it from a Mason.
Speaker 1: Mussa was like the richest of all time. He's he
Speaker 1: got it from national resources, he got for the oil.
Speaker 1: He got it from construction, right, like his best friend
Speaker 1: is building power plants. They can build their own city
Speaker 1: just from the resources that they have. Dardos Pops. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the artists. Hell's it goes with that cooperation.
Speaker 1: Like if they don't report to you, how you know
Speaker 1: what they're really doing. But you've got tons of billionaires
Speaker 1: who was not reporting. They're doing real things. It's just
Speaker 1: that when we look in America, we're like, all right,
Speaker 1: Robert L. Smith, Yes, wealthy is black man in America,
Speaker 1: but not in the world. There's no shame in What
Speaker 1: about the guy that o bt Bob Johnson? He was
Speaker 1: he was a billionaire too. He got a divorce, yea,
Speaker 1: that called he called he lost four million the divorce. Yea.
Speaker 1: It goes to the mindset, right like when when when
Speaker 1: Jay said that line, he was like, uh, when he
Speaker 1: bought the nets, so he was owning the nests. They
Speaker 1: were like you don't own it. But then he had
Speaker 1: to remind people like yo, one percent of the billions
Speaker 1: more than people ever seen, said we're gonna treat it
Speaker 1: like this everyday thing, and then he sells. Spaining is like, well,
Speaker 1: he know he sold out, bro. He's actually merging the
Speaker 1: company so it can expand he's now Thursday's part is
Speaker 1: with the wealthiest man in quote unquote the world who
Speaker 1: owns LVMH and so it's a strategic partnership to help
Speaker 1: the brand grow. That's not hurting him, right, He's actually
Speaker 1: showing us how to do it right now. The problem
Speaker 1: is like for so long we watched, we watched, we
Speaker 1: didn't get the instructions on how to do it. So
Speaker 1: that's why when we talk about the most dangerous, that's
Speaker 1: what this is right here. So the fact that we
Speaker 1: got it from entertainers and now entertainment and music is
Speaker 1: now looking at us like, yo, those are the guys.
Speaker 1: This merger is important, my bad? But how important was it?
Speaker 1: Because you know, like I said, you guys are cool.
Speaker 1: It's different from hearing from people that's always suited and
Speaker 1: booted and you know they're looking too too, too good
Speaker 1: and they don't have no sins and ship like that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's different when you're you're human, you know me. So,
Speaker 1: but how important was it for y'all to like connect
Speaker 1: with entertainers and share y'all? I mean, that's what it's routed.
Speaker 1: The first lesson I've ever wrote on financial lyricy was
Speaker 1: about jay Z because we grew up with him. Like
Speaker 1: I told you when I saw you over night, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know he was on my door when I was
Speaker 1: growing up. Wow, like my mom, I got to pitch
Speaker 1: I'm love because because that's what you meant to I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my guy. And so like when I was thinking,
Speaker 1: like me and him had this connection when it was
Speaker 1: like we were here lyrics, we wasn't hearing him the
Speaker 1: same way everybody else was. We had Billy did the
Speaker 1: code the message, and so I wrote. The first lesson
Speaker 1: I wrote was all Black Scott sports entertainment, like he
Speaker 1: wrote that ninety six. The first song on Z Reasonable Doubts,
Speaker 1: the first song I'm Not Damn in two thousand tendansee
Speaker 1: right right, Like if we look at the people who
Speaker 1: we think are successful with what avenues did they come from?
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, damn. Was he profound enough to know
Speaker 1: that that was what we was gonna see twenty years
Speaker 1: later and then for him to change that and so
Speaker 1: hip hop has always been us. That's why I said
Speaker 1: this is this is really the evolution of hip hop, right,
Speaker 1: like we watch people entertained, We've seen y'all become like,
Speaker 1: look at that, this is business and really it's going
Speaker 1: back to the route of hip hop understanding. I didn't
Speaker 1: think hip hop was gonna get this smart, like like
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, like you know, come on, was gonna
Speaker 1: get this dumb I'm talking about I'm talking about Maybe
Speaker 1: it's totality, but I'm saying there's a lot of great
Speaker 1: businessmen that are doing a lot of great ship on
Speaker 1: the business wise now because especially podcasts like podcast made
Speaker 1: it so we didn't you didn't think Russell back then
Speaker 1: when he was doing Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm saying I'm
Speaker 1: adding on to that. Yeah, I'm saying even the Dame
Speaker 1: Dashes and things that there was always shining examples. It
Speaker 1: never became the predominant culture, but that was they was
Speaker 1: always trying to make sure that they did not become
Speaker 1: the predominant culture. Because now they can't eat off you
Speaker 1: in this country. Right, We've always like, if you look
Speaker 1: at the history of black people in America, we are
Speaker 1: some of the most inventive, innovative people that have exist
Speaker 1: in the history of time. Like it was a black
Speaker 1: man that created the door knob, to the to the stoplight,
Speaker 1: to the filament in the light bulb. But you don't
Speaker 1: think about black men and women in that respect, right,
Speaker 1: because it's not narrated like that. Why because we don't
Speaker 1: own media and we don't own the education systems. Right.
Speaker 1: If we educated each other based on what our actual
Speaker 1: contributions are and the things that we do in the
Speaker 1: important people within our curture, that becomes our curture. Our
Speaker 1: thing is that we are the talent, but we don't
Speaker 1: own the talent, right, we are the curture. We don't
Speaker 1: own the courture. So somebody else is always managing our
Speaker 1: spirit and our energy and our bodies. I mean, but
Speaker 1: that ship just goes back to slavery. Right. We were
Speaker 1: the talent. We were the ones that was doing all
Speaker 1: the production. It was a brother that was creating the
Speaker 1: cotton gins and different inventions, but people were still in
Speaker 1: the patents and utilizing your labor it's the same thing
Speaker 1: with hip hop, is the same thing with the workforce. Right, Spiritually,
Speaker 1: the essence of hip hop is the most influential on
Speaker 1: the planet Earth, right, But financially we don't own nor
Speaker 1: control none of that ship. Right, So if we can
Speaker 1: keep you uneducated, then we can control you. Right. That's
Speaker 1: what we're talking about with the contracts and the legal
Speaker 1: leaves for us don't know nothing about that. But when
Speaker 1: you go back to the hip hop, hip hop started
Speaker 1: off the gods on the earth. Its started off piece
Speaker 1: of gods. That of what's suthing, nigga, you understand me.
Speaker 1: It started off with kings and queens instead of niggas
Speaker 1: and bitches. So it reverted and then that's when you
Speaker 1: was able to really control them because if it was
Speaker 1: based on knowledge, then people want to learn. If it's
Speaker 1: based on ignorance, then people are satisfied with not knowing
Speaker 1: and they just get a look. So people want to
Speaker 1: look successful, but they never learned the actual business of success.
Speaker 1: So now we're at this point. If you look at
Speaker 1: every other courture, their wealth standard is steeped in education.
Speaker 1: Whether it's the Jewish, they look at education as the key.
Speaker 1: The Asian community, which has the highest, you know, grossing
Speaker 1: households in America, specifically the East Indian. Education is the
Speaker 1: key the way that Hispanics are growing right now. Education
Speaker 1: so for black people in America. And I'm not just
Speaker 1: talking about that college education that people are getting, because
Speaker 1: that's never prepared us. Right. We've we've given that ago.
Speaker 1: We've given millions and millions of dollars to these colleges
Speaker 1: and we just told people to go, but we never
Speaker 1: really told them how to attain the skill sets for
Speaker 1: financial wealth, right, And what we're doing is saying that,
Speaker 1: all right, listen, you don't need to go four years
Speaker 1: to learn how to build wealth, you understand me. You
Speaker 1: can learn that just by listening, sitting down with a
Speaker 1: cult of educating yourself on YouTube. The game is changing
Speaker 1: with artificial intelligence and all sort of things. So we
Speaker 1: so behind. Even when we catch up, we're still behind,
Speaker 1: you understand me. Because what we're catching up to is
Speaker 1: the ship that people are already pivoting from. So we
Speaker 1: have to not only be educated, but we have to
Speaker 1: be fishing with what we do with media and what
Speaker 1: we have right now, we have an opportunity to create
Speaker 1: a conglomerate to where you know, the only thing that
Speaker 1: we listen to is the things that we report right
Speaker 1: outside the media's control by whatever forces, institutions and hours.
Speaker 1: But when there's people of the courture we listen to
Speaker 1: that we want somebody smart. We can find them in
Speaker 1: the court where we want to scientists and engineer and
Speaker 1: intellect whatever it is. We have all of that. And
Speaker 1: when I said the court, I'm talking about the ethnic
Speaker 1: background of people who share those same common values. Who
Speaker 1: won't that liberation, who won't that well, who won't that power?
Speaker 1: The people who don't want it, that's not my people.
Speaker 1: They just look like me, but they don't think like me,
Speaker 1: feel like me, a move like me. And we have
Speaker 1: to be able to concentrate our effort and our energy
Speaker 1: on those who are alike. And your hats hold up
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Speaker 1: like what you guys said as far as the packaging,
Speaker 1: packaging was very important because it's like the messenger is
Speaker 1: more important than the message. We're not the first people
Speaker 1: to ever talk about financial literacy, but we're the first
Speaker 1: people that really as scale did it in a way
Speaker 1: that was so relatable. I remember me coming up and
Speaker 1: me seeing rich people. They have they sneakers, fucked up.
Speaker 1: They were like they didn't really care about showing like
Speaker 1: showing money, like you know what I mean. But you
Speaker 1: also got to understand like our background, like I always say,
Speaker 1: like I had to learn business, but I didn't have
Speaker 1: to learn culture. I am culture, Like I grew up
Speaker 1: in like War Report. I could recite that album from
Speaker 1: that ship, like even just coming here, like I got
Speaker 1: a photograph emory source like Gumbo, but I remember buying
Speaker 1: throwback jerseys. Right. That's so it's like not but that's
Speaker 1: really that's really inside, that's really inside of us. So
Speaker 1: you don't gotta. But for a long time, we thought
Speaker 1: we had to compromise ourselves and like, Okay, in order
Speaker 1: to be taking serious, I gotta change the way I talk.
Speaker 1: I have to put it's not a wrong putting a
Speaker 1: suit on. But if we don't want to wear a suit,
Speaker 1: we don't have to wear like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We can still have a very high level of intelligence
Speaker 1: but not compromise who we are as people. So the
Speaker 1: hip hop that's just us. So now what happens is
Speaker 1: that people see us and they're like, damn, that's really relatable,
Speaker 1: Like I can actually achieve that. So it's like now
Speaker 1: the sanitation worker is on his app training stocks. Like
Speaker 1: what I'm saying we're gonna in a five is it's
Speaker 1: given inspiration because it's like for a long time, you thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: you gotta go to Harvard. It's over your head, you
Speaker 1: gotta be a super you know, I Q genius. But
Speaker 1: we're breaking all of those barriers and it's it's worldwide.
Speaker 1: So when we go to London and thousands of people
Speaker 1: come out because people have been disenfranchise for a long
Speaker 1: time all over the world, Jamaica, London, Nigeria, all of that.
Speaker 1: It's like a pyramid, like people at the top keep
Speaker 1: power to themselves, keep information to themselves, and they keep
Speaker 1: the people on the bottom ignorant, and they keep them entertained.
Speaker 1: They keep them entertained with sports and entertainment and just
Speaker 1: you know, everyday nonsense. But now it's like, Okay, you
Speaker 1: can still have sports entertainment. We love that as well,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna have some education as well. And now
Speaker 1: you he said, we went to London. I don't think
Speaker 1: y'all missed that, the Royal Albert Hall. We're just one
Speaker 1: of the most prestigious venues in the world, and we
Speaker 1: talked about financial education and it was sold out with
Speaker 1: three thousand plus. Yeah, because they well, we do. It's
Speaker 1: not normal, but we're normalizing it, you understand me. But
Speaker 1: we still want people to understand that this is the
Speaker 1: highest level of excellence that we're achieving as young black men.
Speaker 1: So when we're selling out different places and when you
Speaker 1: have crowds of people like it is a concert outside,
Speaker 1: because we're changing the narrative around that that has to
Speaker 1: be reported and respected and observed. That's the way you
Speaker 1: change it, you understand me. But if it's like okay,
Speaker 1: they just they're always doing something right, then therefore people
Speaker 1: don't see it as special, they don't see it as obtained,
Speaker 1: they don't see it as damn. This is a blueprint
Speaker 1: that we're setting across the planet Earth. You know, we
Speaker 1: may be some of the flies, young gentlemen that has
Speaker 1: ever been born. You know, being from Oakland, I feel
Speaker 1: like you know Oakland even I feel like even the
Speaker 1: dirtiest person in Oakland, even the most ignorant person in Oakland,
Speaker 1: gonna have some level of knowledge yourself. Because of the Oakland.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows how to know and they know how to talk,
Speaker 1: right because Oakland is one of the Mecas of game. Right,
Speaker 1: so you learn how to be able to communicate and
Speaker 1: now to speak and how to see through the bullshit.
Speaker 1: But also you know, the home of the Panthers and
Speaker 1: all of the different movements. Crack came from Oakland, you
Speaker 1: understand me. So growing up in Oakland, you learn about this.
Speaker 1: So it's very hard to be ignorant of the way
Speaker 1: that the world is and works, and what's your position
Speaker 1: as a black man. So whatever you take with that
Speaker 1: style the same way from Brooklyn and New York. These
Speaker 1: are very specific and different type of places. You understand
Speaker 1: me that whatever is brewed from there, it's gonna have
Speaker 1: court you and consciousness already in it. Right, and especially
Speaker 1: when you throw in being a Muslim and being masculine,
Speaker 1: where you show up and present yourself is gonna be
Speaker 1: with power. I'm not trying to acquiesce to the way
Speaker 1: the standards have been before me. I want to create
Speaker 1: something new. So those who look at me and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: nineteen keys can do it, then I can do it right.
Speaker 1: Like I've been through the streets, I didn't have the cases.
Speaker 1: I didn't did all of the things that will give
Speaker 1: you an excuse to be like, well he had this, that,
Speaker 1: and the third note, I've been through the same trappings,
Speaker 1: but it was the knowledge that got me out of it,
Speaker 1: the perspective, the experience. So therefore we're setting an example
Speaker 1: to say that all black men the planet Earth can
Speaker 1: stand up and beat themselves without having to bow down
Speaker 1: to the power structure. It's that same thing that he
Speaker 1: was talking about sports and the table. This is something
Speaker 1: that's very high on black Twitter, like like world Dion Sanders, people,
Speaker 1: I could taking him and I don't understand that, like
Speaker 1: like he's he has a job to do, doesn't he?
Speaker 1: And what what does interview Sanders um at Jackson State? Actually,
Speaker 1: you've been on there, you've been I'll say this about
Speaker 1: I understand and I respect the move because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's just business, like you know,
Speaker 1: but I understand why people are are disappointed because how
Speaker 1: it was packaged and not even he might not have
Speaker 1: done this, but how it was package was that it's
Speaker 1: more than business. When you take a job at Carlorado,
Speaker 1: you know, that's just a job. You take a job
Speaker 1: at Jackson State and it's sold as you know, this
Speaker 1: is for the and this is for the culture. And
Speaker 1: now athletes can come and play and we're gonna support
Speaker 1: our own and you start to build up steam and
Speaker 1: then Rick Ross is coming down there, Gillian Willow coming
Speaker 1: down there, We're coming down everybody's coming down there. It's lit.
Speaker 1: And now you've got the top players in the country
Speaker 1: considering going to hpc US and people donating money. And
Speaker 1: did he told me he gonna write a check for
Speaker 1: a million dollars and it's more than just a job,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So people looked at it like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Dion sand is the most popular coaching sports right now,
Speaker 1: he's the most popular coaching sports. But he's supposed to know.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at M. I'm not mad at but
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to show you how the other side
Speaker 1: is looking at it, like damn. For years, we've been defunded,
Speaker 1: we never had credibility, we've been embarrassed all of this.
Speaker 1: So now we're finally getting national recognition, we finally got pride,
Speaker 1: We finally can stand up because it's just throw it
Speaker 1: out there. In Colorado is a white school. It is
Speaker 1: super super like that. As soon as we get to
Speaker 1: the top, now, all of that's taken from us. So
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not knocking him because he's just one person,
Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to just I can understand that
Speaker 1: some of that disappointm becomes stress. It's more than just
Speaker 1: a job. Like at HBCU, at that level, it's for
Speaker 1: the coach. What happens if his starting players over that's
Speaker 1: that's that's part of it now, right. So the first
Speaker 1: like that's what he did at at Jackson City right,
Speaker 1: Like the first thing he did was brought his family.
Speaker 1: Like he lives there, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: like that's part of it. So his son is there,
Speaker 1: his daughter works on campus, his other son plays for
Speaker 1: the team. So he brought them to Colorado. To the
Speaker 1: thing with Dion is like he's a trailblazer, right, but
Speaker 1: the trailblazer has set a pace for people to now follow.
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, he did his job. He was there
Speaker 1: one year, there was five hundred. The next year they
Speaker 1: tendant to this year they undefeated. They're gonna play in
Speaker 1: the ball game. He's done what he was supposed to
Speaker 1: do as a coach. He said, I'm not a leader
Speaker 1: of a school. I'm a leader of men, right and
Speaker 1: young women who are trying to get their education. He
Speaker 1: could do that anywhere. The fact that he chose Colorado,
Speaker 1: like I get it, Like for everything he's saying, I
Speaker 1: get that standpoint, But it does that stop him for
Speaker 1: now leading young men and women? Nah, who's next? Now?
Speaker 1: Who fills those shoes? It's like us right, like we
Speaker 1: kicked down doors right now, right, we're getting two spaces.
Speaker 1: Like what you said about sports entertainment and then being
Speaker 1: that elite, But there has to be a ladder in between, right,
Speaker 1: Like we became that ladder. Like, now who follows him?
Speaker 1: Who's the Hall of Fame athlete or a football player
Speaker 1: that says, you know what, Dion paved the way, Let
Speaker 1: me go take those rings from what he did. And
Speaker 1: Warren Sapp could be one of them. Right, But there's
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of Hall of Fame, there's a you
Speaker 1: can go down the list of names, right, but it's
Speaker 1: like who's going to do it? This is important for
Speaker 1: black Twitter and everybody that's criticizing to understand, right, we
Speaker 1: love criticizing, We love throwing rocks, we love talking about something.
Speaker 1: Of people that criticized have never done anything productive. So
Speaker 1: it's like, instead of criticizing, he's actually done something for HBCU.
Speaker 1: You could have said he could have did more, but
Speaker 1: he did a lot. What have you done? So it's
Speaker 1: like us, we just did a free event at Howard
Speaker 1: University on Saturday. Right, that's all way of giving back.
Speaker 1: If whoever, if you're at Howard or if you just
Speaker 1: in d C, come learn education, learn about learned about
Speaker 1: credit yea. So it's like instead of instead of looking
Speaker 1: at this as an opportunity to criticize somebody. Why don't
Speaker 1: you look at this as an opportunity to actually do something.
Speaker 1: Give some money to an HBCU, go to an event,
Speaker 1: buy some merchandise, like, do something to to somebody. Like
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's like, but that's humanity's problem. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say black people, but that's humanity problem, but
Speaker 1: especially black people. Now stop doing that. Stop doing that
Speaker 1: because it happens all the time. It happens when they
Speaker 1: don't like if Nori do an interview with you, they're
Speaker 1: gonna criticize that. They don't like deon standing, they're gonna criticize.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you spend your whole day criticize with
Speaker 1: somebody and you have not done anything to contribute anything
Speaker 1: productive in anybody's lives. So that's that's that's something detrimental,
Speaker 1: and we got to call it out and encourage people
Speaker 1: to actually help. And it's being reactive instead of proact.
Speaker 1: I always say, as well, just to be God's advocate
Speaker 1: on that one is that you know, you can't market
Speaker 1: a revolution in the movement and then sell out for capitalism.
Speaker 1: I think that's what people are tired of. That's what
Speaker 1: they figured. That is right because persons individual success don't
Speaker 1: matter here to the court. Individual successes you and your
Speaker 1: family when it was about the people in the movement,
Speaker 1: and we felt like this was for HBCUs that's why
Speaker 1: everybody cared. So when he made that decision, he took
Speaker 1: the movement with him. You understand me. He sold out
Speaker 1: the movement as well for his decision for himself. So
Speaker 1: I think that's very important that when we do things,
Speaker 1: you understand me. Let's not trap our people into this
Speaker 1: feeling like, yo, I'm doing this for Black America. I'm
Speaker 1: doing this to get us like you have to also,
Speaker 1: so when people are disappointed because you raised their expectations.
Speaker 1: So let me tell you one thing I'm sorry to give.
Speaker 1: Like it's like when we're in UH, we wanted to
Speaker 1: own our ship. The reason why one of the biggest
Speaker 1: reason why we went to vote with vote was gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, let us own our ships. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. There for vote sales tomorrow and
Speaker 1: they didn't tell me. I kind of wouldn't be mad,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Even all I had a
Speaker 1: lot to do with properly theirselves. I probably wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 1: I feel like we should have something you know that
Speaker 1: the ones us like, yo, you know has it. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be it's not gonna be the same. And as
Speaker 1: long as it's that because I realized now that none
Speaker 1: of the most of the ship is not really friendship.
Speaker 1: Most of the ship is business even when it's friendship,
Speaker 1: and you gotta learn how to take the punches with it.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm trying to say, Like like it's
Speaker 1: been rumors all the time, like vote was selling over here,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't even make the phone calls
Speaker 1: be like yo, I'm a little heated, Like I don't
Speaker 1: even do that. I'll just be like all right, cool
Speaker 1: if that's the fact, because that's what we kind of
Speaker 1: signed up for business. So isn't that the same when
Speaker 1: it comes to Dion? I know what I think The
Speaker 1: difference between Dion and this is his the movement around
Speaker 1: the hbc US. He's bringing these top athletes over here,
Speaker 1: you understand, men, people is like finally that's dope. And
Speaker 1: the way that he pushed it out, their very inspirational movement.
Speaker 1: You thought he's gonna be there a couple more years
Speaker 1: him going to Colorado or white school. Even if he's
Speaker 1: bringing talented there's bring get money to there, you understand me.
Speaker 1: If it's an hbc U school, then we see that
Speaker 1: as a black thing. We see that as when we
Speaker 1: talk about well from circulating the black dollar and educating
Speaker 1: ourselves to make that a better top tier school. So
Speaker 1: this is the idea of the mind of the people.
Speaker 1: Everybody is not even educated to know the nuance to
Speaker 1: the business structure of the deals. So they're going to
Speaker 1: react emotionally, of course, because the way you got people
Speaker 1: involved was getting them emotionally involved, right, getting them inspired,
Speaker 1: letting them see this and feel this, like, Yo, we're
Speaker 1: finally doing it over here. So I think that the
Speaker 1: way people responding to Dion was the only way that
Speaker 1: they knew how to respond to Dion. You understand me.
Speaker 1: You went to a white school and got a great deal,
Speaker 1: and for his career, that's great before the idea of
Speaker 1: what he was doing to HBCUs that has no value
Speaker 1: to its real quick because I like this, I like like,
Speaker 1: I feel like money of God. They can always use
Speaker 1: money against you, and a lot of niggas always turned
Speaker 1: for money and we can make any of every excuse,
Speaker 1: but if we did the same thing, we would be sellouts. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't think that if I come out here and
Speaker 1: present myself as a thought leader and not care for
Speaker 1: the people, you understand me, and then some white company
Speaker 1: hires me Gucci, you'd be like, yo, well we want
Speaker 1: you to be our representatives, and I make the right.
Speaker 1: That's never imagine that right. They give me nineteen million
Speaker 1: and like want you to be the face I'm selling up.
Speaker 1: So it's to me, it's no difference when you're making
Speaker 1: that same decision. Now, what he did was great and
Speaker 1: what he represented. I think the way we got to
Speaker 1: communicate is not bringing these expectations like I'm a revolutionary
Speaker 1: when really I'm a capitalist. Because you said the word movement,
Speaker 1: and so when I hear it, movements required this more
Speaker 1: than one person, right, And so when you think about
Speaker 1: the den situation, is it a movement or is it
Speaker 1: a moment? Because it was a moment for Jackson. Staton
Speaker 1: didn't help grand we don't know, did it help Morgan State,
Speaker 1: did it help out We don't know because we never
Speaker 1: got to see the long term effects of it. And
Speaker 1: so it was a moment, right, But it becomes a
Speaker 1: movement when somebody now carries that on, right, So that's
Speaker 1: that's how it's built. So that's what I'm looking at it, like,
Speaker 1: all right, there's so many of us, and there's so
Speaker 1: many alumni who come from these schools that never give back,
Speaker 1: like what he said, Like there's places there's plenty of
Speaker 1: pastigious alumni. Are they coming to support the schools? Are
Speaker 1: they becoming boosts for their schools? Are they rooting for
Speaker 1: the school that they like on TV? You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so like, in order for there to
Speaker 1: be a movement, it has to be more than one.
Speaker 1: So if Dion is just the one, you take the
Speaker 1: head of the leader, the leader of the movement out,
Speaker 1: and now there's no movement. But you're the one you started.
Speaker 1: You bring other people in so that it makes sure
Speaker 1: that it progresses. But now, whether he was somebody that
Speaker 1: kicked in the door and this is always his idea
Speaker 1: to go to one of these schools, then there was
Speaker 1: always a career movement. It was never a movement. Now
Speaker 1: whether that relies on his shoulder not as a different conversation,
Speaker 1: but when we're talking about creating a successful template. It
Speaker 1: has to be long term. Anything a person doesn't short term. Yeah,
Speaker 1: person can be inspired and do it, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: really make you the founder of the movement unless you
Speaker 1: are there to usher it in for the next generation.
Speaker 1: That's the founder of the movement of hip hop. There's
Speaker 1: so many people that's the founders of a movement of
Speaker 1: hip hop who kept up to the same thing, who
Speaker 1: didn't go commercial, who didn't make these commercial records, and
Speaker 1: they are not financially and what is an example that
Speaker 1: you have for them? Let me, let me, let me,
Speaker 1: let me rebut let people were Bro just said, because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use nineteen, I'm gonna use I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: some of his knowledge that he dropped on us a
Speaker 1: well back. He said, Black people have a savior complex.
Speaker 1: But we always look for one person coming back, Black
Speaker 1: Jesus coming back to save us. Like what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: whether it's Malcolm X, whether it's markets carf, whether this
Speaker 1: whoever right, And it's like that's always told you all
Speaker 1: the time. People, I'm like, I'm not a leader, I'm
Speaker 1: a friend. Because leaders never have to tell somebody that
Speaker 1: their leader. If you choose to follow somebody and that's
Speaker 1: that's up to you to choose. But I'm not. It's
Speaker 1: too much pressure and too much sponsibiling, and a leader
Speaker 1: like I saying I'm not a leader. I'm just here
Speaker 1: doing my responsibility, just like you're doing your responsiblitybody should
Speaker 1: be doing the responsibility. So it's like a racist run.
Speaker 1: It's a marathon and you you have a baton. So
Speaker 1: sometimes every relationship ends. Every relationship ends. Sometimes the relationship
Speaker 1: could be six months, Sometimes relationship could be sixty years.
Speaker 1: But at one point is going to end. It's not
Speaker 1: about how long it last, is about how impactful it
Speaker 1: was while it lasted. Dion saying, is three years was
Speaker 1: more impact food than fifty years of what most people
Speaker 1: have ever done for HBCU. And by the way, I
Speaker 1: don't watch college football at all. The first time I
Speaker 1: started watching, but I didn't know it was so what.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is that he said, can you
Speaker 1: be a revolutionary or a capitalist? You could do both.
Speaker 1: We never apologized for making money because we were in
Speaker 1: a we're in a capitalistic society. This is what they
Speaker 1: put us in. I ain't I ain't choose to be
Speaker 1: in America. This is what I was born in some
Speaker 1: make the most of the opportunity that's provided for me.
Speaker 1: They demonize wealth and say, oh, you gotta be poor.
Speaker 1: And you know, somebody said on the other day, they said,
Speaker 1: Jesus said that you have a rich man has the
Speaker 1: odds of a needle in a haystack of making it
Speaker 1: to heaven. Something like that. I said, what's the odds
Speaker 1: of a poor person? That's what they never told you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, what's the odds of
Speaker 1: a poor person? Probably the same? Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They make it cool to be poor and
Speaker 1: broke and be but like you said, nobody's coming to
Speaker 1: help you when you when you're a poor revolutionary and
Speaker 1: when you're a poor founder and now you need to
Speaker 1: your teeth fix, all they're gonna say. It's not bro
Speaker 1: Your time is plast So it's like you can't you
Speaker 1: can't look at it from that standpoint because I look
Speaker 1: at like Deon Sanders can't. He added a lot of value,
Speaker 1: He added a lot of attention. He sparked the movement.
Speaker 1: Now who's who's turning it next? He never signed up
Speaker 1: for a lifelong contract to be Eddie Robinson the coach
Speaker 1: for seventy years. He did his three year He said
Speaker 1: it from day one. It's all about the money. That's
Speaker 1: don't make the argument that people should have been thrown
Speaker 1: a bunch of money into that situation to keep him
Speaker 1: there exactly. It was still it's still no, three years
Speaker 1: is a long time. It depends. Three years is as
Speaker 1: different than so. But you gotta look at it like this,
Speaker 1: because all the men that I've ever respected throughout history,
Speaker 1: you understany stood on what they stood on for a
Speaker 1: lifelong mission. Once they started it. You understand me. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the rest of his life is
Speaker 1: going to be. The question that you first arose was
Speaker 1: about the way that people felt about it, right, And
Speaker 1: I believe that the way people felt about it was
Speaker 1: the way that he positioned it. He created the atmosphere
Speaker 1: that if I leave abruptly to a white school, then
Speaker 1: Black America's gonna feel this way because I got Black
Speaker 1: America hopes up by the change that I was making.
Speaker 1: So I don't think that it's controversial for people to
Speaker 1: react in the matter when you position their emotions into hope.
Speaker 1: You understand had nothing to do personally with black who's
Speaker 1: always said he was he who said he because times
Speaker 1: that he was not much of a player. He even
Speaker 1: went to an HBCU just to to and he was
Speaker 1: sitting there with his new wife and baby Face with
Speaker 1: his new girl, and he was with baby Faces. Oh,
Speaker 1: they were all together, and I was like, this is gangs.
Speaker 1: I was liked, this just crack. That just cra craigs
Speaker 1: a prop. But but yeah, because the way you broke
Speaker 1: it down and the way you guys said it, I
Speaker 1: didn't look at it like that, kind of looked at
Speaker 1: it like the Lebron decision as posed to looking at
Speaker 1: it as an historical black cop Lebron decision, you know
Speaker 1: when Lebron because everyone was just the decision, the rector decision.
Speaker 1: But hold, let's give it. Give the flowers flowers. You
Speaker 1: know our shows about giving you all your flowers like that,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna rebute the guy like that. Wow? Yes, wow,
Speaker 1: actually flower, I'm not deserving. Moving on right shout By
Speaker 1: the way, I also believe that it's it's always dangerous
Speaker 1: when we criticize black man do any good. He ain't.
Speaker 1: He hasn't done any wrong, he hasn't done anything evil.
Speaker 1: It's just perspectives, opinions and emotions around the moves he's
Speaker 1: making because they're public. But him as a black man,
Speaker 1: the work that he's done, the inspiration that he showed,
Speaker 1: he deserves his flowers for that, you understand me. So
Speaker 1: one thing, um, I all noticed as soon as you
Speaker 1: walk in. Only I got on the roading right, only
Speaker 1: got some people. Some people will say, depending on who
Speaker 1: you ask, they'll say, you know, watches, this investment that's
Speaker 1: going down. It's investment that goes up and it's a
Speaker 1: roller coaster. What do you guys say to people who
Speaker 1: who's never party, how to watch? And this is this
Speaker 1: is a fact right now, you know, just having a
Speaker 1: little watch just you know, you know, looking good, feeling good.
Speaker 1: Some of these watches going up pretty cool with it,
Speaker 1: when some of them are staying still. The watch market
Speaker 1: is doing great right now if you look right now.
Speaker 1: Of course you know they haven't announced it, of course,
Speaker 1: but we're in a recession right some things we're going
Speaker 1: through some of the highest points of inflation in the
Speaker 1: nation right now. Right Plane tickets, food prices, healthcare and
Speaker 1: ontitude of different things are very high. And a lot
Speaker 1: of the different assets that people was holding on to
Speaker 1: have lost value. Right. This is the point in time
Speaker 1: where a lot of people have overlayvers bought too many
Speaker 1: assets and they end up selling. But role Lexus specifically
Speaker 1: has been a nice special case that even through all
Speaker 1: of this up and down with inflation and recession news
Speaker 1: and stocks being down and crypto being down, the rolexes
Speaker 1: have held their value and increased in value. Right and
Speaker 1: so right now, rox store, that's important. They only have
Speaker 1: displayed Rolexes. That's not working. Those are not no rolex stores. Actually.
Speaker 1: You know what's so crazy is that there's a whole
Speaker 1: education with these watches that I didn't even know until
Speaker 1: nobody knows until you're actually in the space. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know what the watches. What I realized is that
Speaker 1: a all rolexes aren't made the same, and all rolexes
Speaker 1: don't have the same appreciation. So like like the sky dweller, right,
Speaker 1: that's the most complicated movement. So it's crazy, it's the
Speaker 1: most heavies. Yeah, so it's like that's one of the
Speaker 1: watches that appreciate over the court. The sky dweller appreciates
Speaker 1: more than this is the presidential I have a Scott
Speaker 1: the sky dweller will appreciate over time more than the
Speaker 1: presidential um. So it's interesting with president the US. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got gumbaders only we we we bringing you bring
Speaker 1: What the rolex is is like, you know what's so crazy, bro?
Speaker 1: Because Troy will break it down. But this is the
Speaker 1: good analogy of life. And it's like when you really
Speaker 1: start to understand watches, you see your watch like probably right,
Speaker 1: no dimonds, and it's like, thank you for throwing that
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah you got like the sky and it's
Speaker 1: like the watch value you would think it would be
Speaker 1: done by diamonds and gold. The most important thing of
Speaker 1: a watch is the movement. So it's like that's a
Speaker 1: metaphor for life as well, right, Like your movement has
Speaker 1: to always be on point. That's the most The exterior
Speaker 1: is what people look at. The interior is the most
Speaker 1: important thing. So understanding watches is like this is real
Speaker 1: time pieces his art. Like what I'm saying, like we're
Speaker 1: not just yeah, it's not just going and just saying
Speaker 1: I just want the most craziest whatever. It's like understanding
Speaker 1: and being educated on it. This is the education that
Speaker 1: I never received. We never received this education, right and even,
Speaker 1: like you said, even purchasing, it's like you gotta go
Speaker 1: on a waiting list and then you gotta purchase a
Speaker 1: watch to get another watch, build up your credit culture
Speaker 1: that's his game culture, and then it's like you gotta
Speaker 1: put it in the body to get work to get
Speaker 1: another sacrifice. It's like even jewelers, like, no disrespect any
Speaker 1: juelus here, but I don't trust jewelers, So it's like
Speaker 1: I only buy it from either the role like store
Speaker 1: or authorized. Authorized deal is extremely important because it's like
Speaker 1: even Quavo, we had him here, Yeah, he brought a
Speaker 1: watch that it wasn't real, but it's like he no, no,
Speaker 1: it was. It was made, it was put together, put together,
Speaker 1: it was real. It was like it was something like
Speaker 1: that face with when they did the knowledge on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like that's too much speculation for four hearted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that it was supposed to be a million,
Speaker 1: like like like he bought it for four hund but
Speaker 1: it was worth a million, that exact watch that hadn't
Speaker 1: been real. Yeah. But but but it's asset. Over the
Speaker 1: course of time, it goes up in value as long
Speaker 1: as you buy it correctly, you know, factory. Diamonds is
Speaker 1: always you know better even no diamonds is good, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like these are things that
Speaker 1: how you look at the watch, and you can look
Speaker 1: at either way. You can look at it just from
Speaker 1: like I just want to shine, or you can look
Speaker 1: at it from an investment standpoint, like I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you part of me because you all, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: this crazy crazy about Richard when I went with them.
Speaker 1: It's the only thing I asked for rail four, like
Speaker 1: I for four favor and I don't ask for for nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you go back, motherfucker. But I say, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't want to buy. I want to buy from
Speaker 1: them and the craziest ship. That's the only watch company
Speaker 1: I've ever dealt with that did not want my money.
Speaker 1: They wanted to explain to me why to watch is
Speaker 1: worth money and want to show to me the the
Speaker 1: complication they wanted to show to me, like look, look,
Speaker 1: this is a real watch. You see the ship in
Speaker 1: the background. You're supposed to always see it in the back.
Speaker 1: It was to always see that. That's why Paddocks and all.
Speaker 1: And then you know he obviously he should have on Rolex.
Speaker 1: He was like one movement. You know, he's a French guy.
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is like what it
Speaker 1: was always bugged out to me because like Rolex, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's an investment and then sometimes it just stay the same.
Speaker 1: Is it always an investment? It depends on what you
Speaker 1: gotta get, what you like. Have you ever bought something
Speaker 1: that you because they said by it? And then it
Speaker 1: just so it goes back to building that portfolio. Right,
Speaker 1: So like in order to build my portfolio at the dealer,
Speaker 1: I had to get a watch. So I got like
Speaker 1: a sea dweller. I barely wear it, but it had
Speaker 1: to build my portfolio. So the next time I'm coming
Speaker 1: to the store and I'm like, yo, I really want
Speaker 1: that Daytona. If that Daytona comes in, I need that, right,
Speaker 1: And so now I got the portfolio and people like
Speaker 1: this is knowledge, like you gotta learn. So I get
Speaker 1: to see dweller and then finally they're like, oh I
Speaker 1: got the Daytona. Now bout the Daytona. This is a
Speaker 1: true story. Like it was at three thousand, right, I
Speaker 1: bought it three months ago. It's appreciated two three months.
Speaker 1: So the thirty three tho dollar watches now and right.
Speaker 1: So it just depends on which watch you get in that.
Speaker 1: Uh it's the Oyster Flex, it's a white go Oyster Flextion. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I don't got to know me, Yeah, definitely. But then
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, appreciate you like that, like even like
Speaker 1: what you said what Cravo was like, yeah, even when
Speaker 1: I watched that segment, like the week later he was
Speaker 1: talking about not putting diamonds in his watch anymore, he's
Speaker 1: over that. That's why I said the education is point
Speaker 1: because you said something earlier. This is this is what
Speaker 1: it is is, Well, we don't know. You can actually
Speaker 1: go to a Richard Milly, you would go to a
Speaker 1: Paddock and you could just get on the list, right,
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's gonna be six months, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be longer. But but but I'm just saying, like, if
Speaker 1: you want retail, retail, like what happens is we want
Speaker 1: to skip that line. You want to take the mark up,
Speaker 1: but but you start going it jeweler's you once you
Speaker 1: When I realized with Julus is that you don't know
Speaker 1: you can tell me you're this diamond is I don't
Speaker 1: really know. I don't know because that sounds Rolex, I
Speaker 1: go trait the role. Actually go straight to Paddock and
Speaker 1: go straight to Richard. This watch is gonna sell anyway,
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean? Like, so why tell
Speaker 1: the layman who doesn't know anything about these watches? What
Speaker 1: gives these things the value that they have because you
Speaker 1: can't get them? Yeah, exactly, because you can't get the
Speaker 1: rarity of it. Yeah. I think I think of one
Speaker 1: of the greater that they put out, the report about
Speaker 1: two three black people have zero percent wealth and the
Speaker 1: ideals that we have zero assets to our name. You
Speaker 1: understand me, the idea when most people we talk about
Speaker 1: assets versus liabilities, buying something that's an asset versus buying
Speaker 1: something that's a liability. One increases your network, one decreases
Speaker 1: your network. Let's give an example of both. Right, So
Speaker 1: a watch can be an asset, right where a car
Speaker 1: a car that say, watch could life, but historically a
Speaker 1: car depociates the moment you get off the lock. Right.
Speaker 1: I know people guns, but I'm just saying the way
Speaker 1: people spend money. So let's say a person going to
Speaker 1: booby trap or two seas they're spending money. You understand me,
Speaker 1: what a stripper throwing tens of thousands of dollars, that's
Speaker 1: a liability. You understand me. That money is not coming back.
Speaker 1: It's not coming right at support in Miami. So you
Speaker 1: think about how much money, how much money is spent
Speaker 1: at the strip club. But if that money was went
Speaker 1: and put into our assets, it goes to increasing your
Speaker 1: network because your network is going to be your assets.
Speaker 1: Mine is your liabilities, you understand me. So your earned
Speaker 1: income your assets, mine is your debt. Right. And so
Speaker 1: when you're spending some money on something that doesn't give
Speaker 1: you a return, that's a liability or doesn't hold any value. Right.
Speaker 1: When we're talking about buying watches or buying land, of
Speaker 1: buying houses or stocks and crypto or gold, we're talking
Speaker 1: about the accumulation of wealth through assets. So when you're
Speaker 1: talking about liquidation events like what Kane West, and we're
Speaker 1: talking about evaluation, your true value is going to be
Speaker 1: based on your assets, right, the things you own. Then
Speaker 1: the evaluation is saying that this is what it's worth
Speaker 1: or impossibly could be worth. Right. So with Black America,
Speaker 1: to goal everybody should be thinking about daily is how
Speaker 1: can I take the money that I'm getting and put
Speaker 1: it in an asset class. Right, most people don't think
Speaker 1: about that because we've never been educated about asset classes.
Speaker 1: We only know liabilities. I believe that we over all
Speaker 1: the assets and under audent liabilities, meaning that if I
Speaker 1: tell you about the investment opportunity, you gonna overthink it.
Speaker 1: But if I said let's go to the strip club,
Speaker 1: you say let's go, you understand me, so you would
Speaker 1: throw your money easily. Money easy story. But brands is
Speaker 1: probably the biggest liabilities that we spend money on. Right
Speaker 1: when we find everything, it's like when you don't know,
Speaker 1: when you don't know what to do, you do what
Speaker 1: you know. You don't know what to do, you do
Speaker 1: what you know. So we know how to spend money
Speaker 1: on jewelry. We know how to spend money and ship clubs.
Speaker 1: We know how to we know. That's because that's familiar
Speaker 1: to us. We don't historically know how to invest in
Speaker 1: real estate, how to invest in stocks, how to invest
Speaker 1: in crypto. That's foreign. So when you have a lack
Speaker 1: of education, what comes into fear, and especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to the money, you become frozen. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: do anything if you if you this is why education
Speaker 1: is extremely important. So education is actually the most important
Speaker 1: thing in life, because when you realize that in this
Speaker 1: job market right now, no matter what, you can't even
Speaker 1: go outside and try to get a job, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like people are not hiring, they're
Speaker 1: they're firing people. So it's like when you realize at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the education is the only
Speaker 1: thing that can save you. And like he said, not
Speaker 1: just a formal education as far as college, but what
Speaker 1: are you learning. This is what we've been able to provide,
Speaker 1: is like real time education where you can actually learn something,
Speaker 1: go outside and make money tomorrow, whether you have a
Speaker 1: college degree or not, whether you have a felony or not,
Speaker 1: whether you have you know, whatever or not. This is
Speaker 1: something that's extremely powerful, and like you said, it's also
Speaker 1: extremely dangerous. That's why I got to command y'all, like
Speaker 1: to say our face, we can said you're into each other,
Speaker 1: and I will always be like, what's up, y'all, But
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, man, I want to be like,
Speaker 1: you'll be careful, you know, because y'all holding the same
Speaker 1: importance as a Martin of mouth, cause I know that
Speaker 1: we don't have these nowadays, but it's it's holding the
Speaker 1: same importance because what we have always missed is us
Speaker 1: being financially aware and like like for instance, most of
Speaker 1: us spend money before we have it. And what what
Speaker 1: it is is we get the money and we think
Speaker 1: that it's actually there, and then we start spending and
Speaker 1: then we forget that one. We gotta pay taxes on
Speaker 1: that and then to uh, you know it wasn't actually there,
Speaker 1: it was is there temporarily and you just spent the money.
Speaker 1: So how does how do you stop people from doing that?
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's the education, So when we see that,
Speaker 1: like even having a conversation about Rodex, that's important. But
Speaker 1: like you come from education, whereas I was a teacher, right,
Speaker 1: and so I know in schools this isn't happening. So
Speaker 1: what we gotta do. We gotta create systems. We gotta
Speaker 1: create the Bronx, Right, I was in the Bronx. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we created By the way you teach it to
Speaker 1: the Bronx, you gonna win the world or two. But
Speaker 1: that's the point. So when we can look inside the
Speaker 1: system and know there's nothing there to help our people,
Speaker 1: then we got to create it. And so we just
Speaker 1: gotta have the courage to do it. But then we
Speaker 1: leave by example by actually showing people. And so when
Speaker 1: he's talking about, hey, we got to create investments in
Speaker 1: asset classes, most people like, well what is that? They
Speaker 1: don't even know that they're doing that. They just realized
Speaker 1: that they're consumers and they spend the money. So we
Speaker 1: spend it on all these brands we talked about, were
Speaker 1: spending on the strip club. But we never know that
Speaker 1: we can own you see what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 1: the mind shift change that we have to have. So
Speaker 1: like when we come up here to talk about that,
Speaker 1: that's what we represent ownership. Like the dude hustling on
Speaker 1: the block doesn't know that he could probably buy that house.
Speaker 1: He don't that's what if he has. You know what's
Speaker 1: so crazy is like, so my cousin is in jail
Speaker 1: right now, he's in the fens and a few of
Speaker 1: my friends, but they tell me, like, yo, y'all got
Speaker 1: a large following this side of here, like people are
Speaker 1: really tapped in. And then I found out like there's
Speaker 1: guys that's trading crypto on cell phone stuff like that,
Speaker 1: Like they really tapped in. Because I feel like you
Speaker 1: have an entrepreneurial spirit. That's it. You just making the
Speaker 1: wrong decision. But you're making the wrong decision because in
Speaker 1: form Yeah, if you have the proper education. This is
Speaker 1: why his life with death matter as far as financial
Speaker 1: literacy is concerned, because it's like if you realize that
Speaker 1: you can make the same amount of money or even
Speaker 1: more money legally. Like I don't think anybody really wants
Speaker 1: to be a drug dealer, but that's something that's attainable.
Speaker 1: It's relatively easy. You know, you don't have to have
Speaker 1: a college degree, and you can go outside tomorrow and
Speaker 1: beginning with some people want to know. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I don't know, don't got no hope, No, let's listen, listen, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: But they want to be because a few things, right,
Speaker 1: the money, the attention, the lifestyle, all of that. What
Speaker 1: if you can get all of those without having to
Speaker 1: risk your freedom, without having to look over your shoulders,
Speaker 1: without having to without having risk doing twenty years in jail.
Speaker 1: What if you can do all of that legally? So
Speaker 1: this is why when we go to Diakemond and it's
Speaker 1: like we're on the floor and they and they've given it,
Speaker 1: like that's important for people to see because now it's
Speaker 1: like Okay, now you don't have to be a drug
Speaker 1: dealer to get that same level of hood admiration because
Speaker 1: it's important that hood love is important, like what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like this is what this was a disconnect
Speaker 1: before this corporate but the corporate people nobody ever saw them.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever saw the suits and they never so it's
Speaker 1: not attainable. They see us, They're gonna see us at
Speaker 1: some point. They might see us a booby trap. You never, no,
Speaker 1: not what but you go, that's the thing we attain
Speaker 1: boom right. And so the person who sat in the
Speaker 1: sudo was on the TV, it's like all right, schools
Speaker 1: this entertainment, but you turn the channel of and they
Speaker 1: disappeared us. We're gonna show up at every place that
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be. So if there's a event going on,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see us there. Why because we made from
Speaker 1: the people and we want them to see like this
Speaker 1: is related. Like you said, I got students who looking
Speaker 1: at me like yo, that was my gym teachers hard
Speaker 1: So you see what I'm saying. So they they're looking
Speaker 1: at it like yo, that's hard, he can do it.
Speaker 1: I just wanted them to go, like, yo, this is
Speaker 1: a career that you can do. Right, So like what
Speaker 1: we drive, what we were all, that's very important, right
Speaker 1: they The first thing they're gonna do is see us,
Speaker 1: like all the kids, all the kids that are our area,
Speaker 1: like they all trying to be entrepreneurs or they all
Speaker 1: got merch lines, they making hoodies, they're doing is they
Speaker 1: try and do that because now we are the people
Speaker 1: that they're looking up to. They're not looking up to
Speaker 1: the drug dealer because they didn't believe that means successful
Speaker 1: drug dealers to even look up to. Like now it's
Speaker 1: like then they really got they got it right now.
Speaker 1: That's why said nobody inherently wants to be a drug dealer.
Speaker 1: They want to be it because of the environment that
Speaker 1: they're in and what they're seeing in the options, and
Speaker 1: they make deductive reasonings and they say, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: the best option for me at this time. But now
Speaker 1: they're seeing us on social media a million one point
Speaker 1: two million followers. They're seeing us when we're on drink chance,
Speaker 1: we're wearing whatever we want to wear, we're going to
Speaker 1: the games, and it's like it's a. That's that's important
Speaker 1: for them to see. So now that now the admiration
Speaker 1: changes and the aspiration changes, and that's something you got
Speaker 1: how they can do it on the entrepreneurials. Not to
Speaker 1: cut your wisdom, but but that's something that's been our
Speaker 1: responsibility here. Right we know that number one, the drug dealers,
Speaker 1: the old troupe like Trump rather like YouTubers are making
Speaker 1: more than drug dealers and rappers, understand me. So even
Speaker 1: being inspiring rapper or drug dealer, that's the old idea
Speaker 1: of success in the court um when we didn't have
Speaker 1: as much exposure. Right now, we don't say YouTuber is
Speaker 1: making more to the TikTokers they dancing while these catches
Speaker 1: is out there risking their life and getting more money.
Speaker 1: They may be doing Airbnb, they may be doing touro
Speaker 1: or doing credit and they're making more money ca Right now,
Speaker 1: there's so many different ways to create different streams of income.
Speaker 1: You have to be lazy not to pick one up,
Speaker 1: you understand me. So now we are living in the
Speaker 1: time we don't have excuses, you understand me. It's like
Speaker 1: and it also goes towards when you talk about being
Speaker 1: dangerous and educating our people and picking up entrepreneurship. I
Speaker 1: don't care you in the streets, you in the trap.
Speaker 1: It's a mindset thing. Right, mind skills said, right mind set.
Speaker 1: You can master any skill set if you can teach
Speaker 1: young men right how to develop the mind of a man,
Speaker 1: because a man is his mind. Right, your ability to
Speaker 1: take ideas out your head and bring them into reality.
Speaker 1: That's how I know if you're a real man, you
Speaker 1: understand me. Otherwise I can't tell of your mind working
Speaker 1: at all. You just chasing women again some dollars. That's
Speaker 1: low level of activity. That's easy that But what is
Speaker 1: the vision that we have for Black America? Were just
Speaker 1: we went through Little Haiti, We went to Carol City,
Speaker 1: right and we were just walking around and we was asking, like,
Speaker 1: what is the vision y'all got for your neighborhood? Though?
Speaker 1: But we get mad that gentrification. They come in and
Speaker 1: beautify and make the neighborhood better and bringing businesses. But
Speaker 1: gentrification is not a bad thing, and we gentrify our ownhoods.
Speaker 1: We're taking value and we're bringing stocks exactly so star
Speaker 1: like like after Lea got her business over there, right,
Speaker 1: like you would look at that business and it wasn't
Speaker 1: black owned and say, yo, this is a sign of gentrification. Right,
Speaker 1: that's not a bad thing though. So like what we're doing,
Speaker 1: we got an even in Chicago, and it's about rebuilding Chicago,
Speaker 1: like reimagining what is your vision you have for your neighborhood,
Speaker 1: How can you see it better? And then how can
Speaker 1: the people collectively in those neighborhoods put money together to
Speaker 1: own it. Even when we're owning businesses, we don't own
Speaker 1: the building. We're paying rent to a landlord that's not
Speaker 1: from our community, right, So they have the longevity. But
Speaker 1: our businesses come and go, come and go, and if
Speaker 1: they want to kick us out to somebody that doesn't
Speaker 1: look like us, they have that power. So not only
Speaker 1: do we have to become man or where we want
Speaker 1: to take ownership in our environments, have control, because it
Speaker 1: ain't your hood. If you don't own it, you understand me,
Speaker 1: it's not that's your plantation. Another type of time he
Speaker 1: was on and that's that's when I think of when
Speaker 1: I think of things like that, that's like it's inspiring
Speaker 1: to see him have that whole strip more like what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, that's that's who we really got to
Speaker 1: focus more on is like the entrepreneurship, the ownership. Because
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't care how good you wrap at
Speaker 1: some point in time, people don't get tired of you,
Speaker 1: but I don't care how fast you are at some
Speaker 1: point in time your hand, but hand not gonna be
Speaker 1: the same. Use it. Using dip as an example, Ah,
Speaker 1: he went back to his own hood. We invested in
Speaker 1: his own hood, but that's where he died. So a
Speaker 1: lot of us is turned off by that. Someone us
Speaker 1: to say, yo, he did the right thing. Someone as saying, listen,
Speaker 1: the right thing to do it here? Yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: think there's a way you go about it. It's always
Speaker 1: the right thing, but you have to do it in
Speaker 1: the right way, you understand me. And because because I'll
Speaker 1: be honest with you, some people don't want to be saved. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care how much they want to say it.
Speaker 1: And they're like yeah, yeah, yeah, but you put a
Speaker 1: person in the position, you send a person a boat,
Speaker 1: they want a yacht. But also also I think it's
Speaker 1: important for us to gentify other people's neighborhood as well,
Speaker 1: Like why not have a restaurant in a in a
Speaker 1: white neighborhood like they do it to us, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, so it's like, why not, like
Speaker 1: we got this thing bigger than just the neighborhood, the
Speaker 1: whole world. I could not to say that you said that,
Speaker 1: but the whole often do that though. I understand restaurants
Speaker 1: in every other place, but that's why I really don't,
Speaker 1: because most of our neighborhoods is in a couple of
Speaker 1: miles radio. That's why when we're do an event. We
Speaker 1: did an event in London at Royal Albert Hall, We're
Speaker 1: not gonna be in the community center. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: in the most prestigious venue in Europe because they colonized.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be first favor, Like know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I feel like we should be able to stand anywhere.
Speaker 1: We should be able to be in Hall, and should
Speaker 1: be able to be in Tom Squire like, don't don't
Speaker 1: just marginalize us in just one area, in one community,
Speaker 1: because nobody else is marginalized. But what you want to
Speaker 1: say that though, because when I went out there to
Speaker 1: Brownsville and stuff, one thing I did notice, right, you
Speaker 1: got all these we're walking through the streets with the
Speaker 1: Bro rube I mayror Fahim, you understand me, and some
Speaker 1: other people and the young people is coming up asking
Speaker 1: us question like, bro, what can I do blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: that you have people in that neighborhood that our community
Speaker 1: organizers they have programs that can teach and educate people
Speaker 1: financial literacy, but most people don't know nothing about it.
Speaker 1: You understand me. You go through those same neighborhoods and
Speaker 1: everybody wants to tell you the stories of all the
Speaker 1: crimes and the issues that have happened there, and then
Speaker 1: the opportunity that they had where they could have bought
Speaker 1: this house and it would have been worth this much, right,
Speaker 1: And so the idea of owning our neighborhoods is just
Speaker 1: that like, there's assets and there's value there that we
Speaker 1: walked past every day and we depreciate it with criminality,
Speaker 1: you understand me. So it's this idea of looking around
Speaker 1: this saying that damn, can I own my home? Can
Speaker 1: I own my environment? And that's something that I think
Speaker 1: is obtainable to the average person, giving them a vision
Speaker 1: of why you're grinding, and giving you a vision of
Speaker 1: why you're hustling in the first place. It's to own
Speaker 1: everything around. When you go outside, you're traveling through Miami,
Speaker 1: how many buildings you look at and be like, that's
Speaker 1: the black person, look like me to own that when
Speaker 1: I go through anywhere in the world, or whether we're
Speaker 1: traveling through Europe, whether we're traveling through the Islands or
Speaker 1: throughout America. When I look at scottscrapers, they're not owned
Speaker 1: by black men and women. We don't own the world.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's important to not just think locally.
Speaker 1: Don people's saying people don't people is the only black
Speaker 1: girl state developer that had a hotel in South Beach.
Speaker 1: A lot of people even know the Royal Palm remember
Speaker 1: that developer, So it's like that's important because it's like
Speaker 1: we gotta be see what they do. Okay, thanks Mr
Speaker 1: than you. What they what they do is they love
Speaker 1: they love the I used to be a financial advisor, right,
Speaker 1: so there's different levels of racism. So it's like they'll
Speaker 1: put you in the boxes like you're the black financial advisor,
Speaker 1: you're working with black people, or you're the black agent
Speaker 1: all of your clients are black people, when every other
Speaker 1: person can work with any single person that they want
Speaker 1: so why is it always segregated for us to only
Speaker 1: stay in one box with our people in our neighborhood Like, nah,
Speaker 1: Like if I'm I want to be able to work
Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift and whoever, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it's like, if you're the most educating, you're the
Speaker 1: best person, then why are you relegated to just a
Speaker 1: small percentage of the population. That's the only only happens
Speaker 1: with black people. If you see an Indian person, he
Speaker 1: could be a CEO of a company. Nobody even thinks
Speaker 1: about it, right, it only happens with black people. When
Speaker 1: Black people have to stay within a small box, work
Speaker 1: with your own that's it. Nah, you should be able
Speaker 1: to expand all over the world if the world is
Speaker 1: yours and the world really should be your Like it
Speaker 1: goes the aspiration right exactly. So if you look at
Speaker 1: the neighborhoods like he's talking about, even inside of our neighborhoods,
Speaker 1: do we what do we own? Right? If we look
Speaker 1: at anything in the beautician area, we don't own that.
Speaker 1: We don't own that girl, Because I wanted to say that,
Speaker 1: if you think about the idea of the project, no
Speaker 1: one owns the project. Somebody, somebody individual that lives the
Speaker 1: city right own it all, you know, like like left Frack,
Speaker 1: I've just met the person that owns left Rack, I
Speaker 1: mean college party. And he walks up to me. He
Speaker 1: was like, you'vel reperd my family forever. And I didn't
Speaker 1: know whether to take that saying what you think about it?
Speaker 1: Felt it felt his name was left right, Yes, wasn't
Speaker 1: really Yeah, he this is this is this is the airs,
Speaker 1: like this is like and he's sitting there. We had
Speaker 1: a great time. We sat there, we had drinks, but
Speaker 1: it was just like it was just like hearing that
Speaker 1: like just met you. Yeah, yeah, this is this is
Speaker 1: like the grandson of the person that actually owns it.
Speaker 1: But because we're not city owned, it's like so I
Speaker 1: actually met It's like wow. Like but when you look
Speaker 1: at Queensbridge, like I remember me hanging out in Queensbridge.
Speaker 1: This is back in the days and Donald Trump had
Speaker 1: a letter in front of everyone's door and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm praying everyone ten thousand dollars to move out because
Speaker 1: he wanted to knock down Queensbridge and he wanted to
Speaker 1: make the Trump Towers Queensbridge. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: remember this, this is what happened. What happened, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean if you think about it, I mean definitely prime
Speaker 1: realists right on the river. You see Manhattan from outside
Speaker 1: your window, see looking at it like an opportunity where
Speaker 1: we're looking at it like yo, I rep here. But
Speaker 1: that's why long the city is so kind of nice,
Speaker 1: right exactly, because because they couldn't actually fix Queensbridge right now.
Speaker 1: Not to say they can't fix it, but they couldn't
Speaker 1: get what they wanted out of that deal. So they
Speaker 1: made everything around it nice and they left that ship
Speaker 1: that's still that's fucked up. That's how they played a
Speaker 1: Thinking about what I just said, I tried to find it,
Speaker 1: they couldn't get it, and they said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'll build around it, and they left it. There's nothing
Speaker 1: like upgraded from queens Bridge other than the cameras for
Speaker 1: the tower, the police station. Then you know what you
Speaker 1: look at. But think about it though, because it's like
Speaker 1: all right, the favelas in Brazil saying, like a lot
Speaker 1: of these places is prime real estate, right, so it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult to knock down. Was the ninety
Speaker 1: six buildings. It's difficult to knock down ninety six buildings, right,
Speaker 1: but you really can't get much better prime real estate.
Speaker 1: It's right on the water, and so I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: then they get the pepsi factory right up the world.
Speaker 1: So if we could just build or around it and
Speaker 1: then you put police all around it, so you make
Speaker 1: it a safe neighborhood. Now it's just dangerous just in
Speaker 1: the area. So it's like, all right, just keep it
Speaker 1: at a minimum, don't disturb the outside situation, and we
Speaker 1: can keep this thing going. And that's and that's what
Speaker 1: happens all over the world where it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: ultimately people understand that nothing's gonna stop the money from
Speaker 1: being made, right, Like, nothing's gonna stop the money from
Speaker 1: being made. This is what people gotta understand. Like we're
Speaker 1: in America. That's why I don't really get into like
Speaker 1: this capitalistic conversation all that, because this is America. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, of course we're gonna be capitalists.
Speaker 1: This is this is what this country is built on.
Speaker 1: This is what this whole world is built on. Like
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you either participate or you become a victim. But but
Speaker 1: how much we have to also understand that we're still
Speaker 1: suffering the effects of colonialism to this day colonialism, which colonialism.
Speaker 1: You know, I believe in being rich and righteous, donable
Speaker 1: mental as far Con says something to the tune about
Speaker 1: being righteous capitalists right to where the idea of having
Speaker 1: wealth and obtaining economic power, you understand me, it's key.
Speaker 1: That's always been something that all of our leaders throughout
Speaker 1: time have talked about. But it's making sure that there
Speaker 1: is integrity and what we do right and making sure
Speaker 1: that there's righteousness and morals and everything that we do.
Speaker 1: Otherwise we will move just for the money. You understand men,
Speaker 1: When you move just for the money, you have to
Speaker 1: sell yourself. You will sell your people out right. And
Speaker 1: this is what we've seen throughout time. We haven't seen
Speaker 1: righteous capital to what we're talking about making money but
Speaker 1: attached to a social good, right Like, there's many different
Speaker 1: types of entrepreneurship and ways to make money. And with
Speaker 1: us being some of the most creative people on the
Speaker 1: planet Earth, you understand me, Like what we do and
Speaker 1: we have products of health and financial literacy and we're
Speaker 1: throwing events, and we're creating shows. All of these are
Speaker 1: attached to social goods, but we're making money. You understand
Speaker 1: me why because we have knowledge of marketing, knowledge of branding, right,
Speaker 1: we have knowledge of sales, knowledge of design, knowledge of
Speaker 1: financial literacy and media and content creation. So we can
Speaker 1: utilize our knowledge and creativity, but it's also gonna be
Speaker 1: trajected to where our character is as well and where
Speaker 1: my passion is, which for me particularly is for our people.
Speaker 1: So I believe that there's an easy way to where
Speaker 1: your people can benefit off the goods that you do,
Speaker 1: but also you can do global business. As my brother said,
Speaker 1: when we're talking about starting locally, there's so many people
Speaker 1: who may never go outside the country. So just giving
Speaker 1: them a vision of owning their neighborhood is for the
Speaker 1: people that's not leaving their neighborhood, you understand me. Then
Speaker 1: you have people that excel beyond those and be like, well,
Speaker 1: I want to own restaurants and I want to franchise,
Speaker 1: or I want to do you know, global real estate
Speaker 1: and have you know property in Africa and property in
Speaker 1: these different islands. Right, that's a different type of game.
Speaker 1: So you know, with us, it always feels like we're
Speaker 1: starting that from scratch. You understand me where we are
Speaker 1: right now, But really we don't have to. We're living
Speaker 1: in the greatest time of having the greatest resources and
Speaker 1: technology on the planet Earth, and it takes a few
Speaker 1: good men to do it. If we look at the
Speaker 1: culture right now, there's somebody that can take a check
Speaker 1: and be like, I can buy every major podcast in
Speaker 1: the courture right, and that check and go a cross
Speaker 1: over a billion, you understand me, Which means that they
Speaker 1: can own all the black media at a snap of
Speaker 1: their fingers if they wanted to. The question is how
Speaker 1: much is black media worked? Right? Because we get to
Speaker 1: control of the idea, is the narratives, the belief systems,
Speaker 1: the imaging that is put out there in front of
Speaker 1: our people. It's a reason that they control it because
Speaker 1: they understand if I can project that into your mind,
Speaker 1: into your woman's mind, then y'all gonna get birth to
Speaker 1: whatever reality that I tell y'all is real. You understand me.
Speaker 1: So now is up to us to where Thank you
Speaker 1: all for having us on. We're having high level conversations.
Speaker 1: Before I started high level conversations, and we're getting millions
Speaker 1: of views. People were saying that that's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: People not gonna want to sit for long term and
Speaker 1: listen to high level, in depth intellectual conversations below and behold,
Speaker 1: we have to show them how to do it the
Speaker 1: right way. So if we take consciousness and education as
Speaker 1: a luxury, so instead, okay, well let's present it in
Speaker 1: the luxurious manner. Let's make it aspirational. Let's make it
Speaker 1: something you want to obtain, right, because most men don't
Speaker 1: see being a man, standing up for yourself, getting money right,
Speaker 1: having social influence and power as their true goal. They
Speaker 1: just want some money and some holes and they're happy.
Speaker 1: So the integrity and the character is missing in our courture.
Speaker 1: So you're not going to get us people. But but
Speaker 1: but but you're not going to get us as a
Speaker 1: people to make any real strides the type that we
Speaker 1: we innately want to sit. It like there's a spirit.
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, there's a spirit of us.
Speaker 1: They just wish we just came together. They just wish
Speaker 1: we did that. They don't have to be wishes. If
Speaker 1: you have real men and women, you understand me, Like
Speaker 1: there's like a wish is you know goal without work?
Speaker 1: You understand me. If we put that work in, then
Speaker 1: there's no more wishes. They're just reality. So when we're
Speaker 1: talking about is educating you on how to do it.
Speaker 1: Once you have the knowledge, how you're now accountable for
Speaker 1: either being lazy or giving birth. Right, a man's mind
Speaker 1: is his womb. Right. If you have an idea here,
Speaker 1: you don't give birth to it, that's because you aborted it.
Speaker 1: Procrastination is the abortion clinic of ideas. Right, you have
Speaker 1: an idea, but do you have the wilfulness? Do you
Speaker 1: have the intent? Do you have the knowledge to go
Speaker 1: bring that into me? I ain't saying whether it's hard
Speaker 1: or not. A man is meant to go do challenges.
Speaker 1: He is meant to go through the darkness. He is
Speaker 1: meant to go through all of that and still project
Speaker 1: his reality because look at every other man and woman
Speaker 1: they've done it. You don't think they had challenges. You
Speaker 1: don't think that they went through some of the hardest
Speaker 1: routes in the world. No, but each one of these
Speaker 1: ideas is small to who we are. Right, our power
Speaker 1: as God's our powers, men and women as kings and
Speaker 1: queens on this planet Earth. That means that you can't
Speaker 1: tell me if we believe that we were the comedic
Speaker 1: people that built the pyramids, and the Mansa Musa's you
Speaker 1: understand me and the Hannibal Barkers, the father of military
Speaker 1: genius in the two Saints around the world come on
Speaker 1: something like owning our neighborhood and owning some shy scrapers.
Speaker 1: That should be a snap of a finger before people
Speaker 1: who know who they are. But that goes to the exposure, right,
Speaker 1: So the exposure plus the education, when you put those
Speaker 1: two things together, they see it and now they educate
Speaker 1: on it. Now it becomes something that's super attainable. That's
Speaker 1: why they have to see us do it. They gotta
Speaker 1: see y'all do it, because it's like, wait, we sold
Speaker 1: him in one avenue, but now we've seen them doing this.
Speaker 1: It's a complete evolution. Well yeah, yeah, let's talk about
Speaker 1: Yea said that he wanted to build a community that
Speaker 1: was fully self sufficient, that nothing outside will come in
Speaker 1: the community or go out of the community. It sounds
Speaker 1: like a good idea back there. What you let me
Speaker 1: ask you this because I watched the whole interview. I
Speaker 1: watched the whole interview. Um, what was your thoughts reflecting
Speaker 1: on that situation. What's your thoughts on that situation? The
Speaker 1: George Floyd Park went over my head because most of
Speaker 1: the time that was like in the first fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: of the interview, like first five minutes thing. It might
Speaker 1: be even the first five minutes. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that I always get critiqued about, it's like cutting
Speaker 1: people off. So I was sitting there just trying to
Speaker 1: let him kind of talk. But I realized that that's
Speaker 1: the time I should have cut him, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't see that to the next day.
Speaker 1: The next day because it was like, yo, he basically asked,
Speaker 1: you can be filmed today, and but by the way,
Speaker 1: there's a lot if I would documentary everything that happened, when,
Speaker 1: when when, But when his name was brought up, that
Speaker 1: was the least of our concerned because like he had
Speaker 1: compared him tomorrow the king at one point, and it
Speaker 1: was just like it was just all over the place.
Speaker 1: Had I been able to sit back and analyze it
Speaker 1: a little bit more, because really what it was, I'm
Speaker 1: being honest, this is the first time I've been addressing
Speaker 1: this question, and I would love to do so, like
Speaker 1: we kind of like felt snubbed a little bit because well,
Speaker 1: well let me say me, let me not throw you
Speaker 1: in it in there like probably gonna win the BT Award.
Speaker 1: God blessed with somebody who just got six episodes, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: so God bless that, God bless god, God blessed short
Speaker 1: because that's not her, that's not how fall at all.
Speaker 1: But at the same token, it's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: we wanted so I was supposed to when I got
Speaker 1: the phone, go, I was let me relax because it
Speaker 1: was something about his energy that wasn't like the same.
Speaker 1: But he didn't want me. He didn't. He didn't He
Speaker 1: didn't say you almost say this. He didn't say I
Speaker 1: want this. We already knew what time, Nah, I knew,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't thinking it. So that's my take on
Speaker 1: it was like after looking at it, and I have
Speaker 1: to see it because the thing is, I'm not even
Speaker 1: hurting people. When I was, you know, I both brought
Speaker 1: up the war report. You know, that was that was
Speaker 1: the time in my life. You know, I grew that
Speaker 1: and I love who I am right now. I make
Speaker 1: people happy. People see me, what's some story? People think
Speaker 1: they know me, even both people those people who meet me.
Speaker 1: They never even met me. They just see me and
Speaker 1: be like, you know, was top bro, and they I
Speaker 1: like to remain that person. And that took away and
Speaker 1: which a lot of people don't know, it was him
Speaker 1: who told me to take it down. It was him
Speaker 1: who told me to take it. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like that it should have been public information because
Speaker 1: it wasn't like he said, yo, take it down and
Speaker 1: to tell everyone to be public about it. But he
Speaker 1: was like yo. I was like, yo, I want to
Speaker 1: take the George Floyd part out and I want to
Speaker 1: take out you know, such a such part out. And
Speaker 1: he was like, well, if you gotta take it out,
Speaker 1: then you know, take it all down. And I was
Speaker 1: just like alright, cool. And by the way, we could
Speaker 1: have been assholes. We could have still made money off
Speaker 1: of this. That interview is still all over the place,
Speaker 1: but we didn't want to make money because the fact
Speaker 1: is the word got back that George Floyd family said
Speaker 1: that we said it mm hmm. Like you know, as
Speaker 1: a journalist, I've seen Oprah interview Cus Klan. She didn't
Speaker 1: pull hard and if you're down, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen that so as a journalist, and
Speaker 1: not to mean you agree with everything that as a journalist.
Speaker 1: As a journalist, I didn't nothing wrong. As the person
Speaker 1: who has more rols, a person that stands with my
Speaker 1: black community, I felt like I let him down. So
Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, something like that. But I
Speaker 1: feel like this is deep, this is deep. It's the
Speaker 1: first time we talk about it. Let's go up. That
Speaker 1: moment was historical regardless, right, Everything that transpired from that
Speaker 1: moment was historical. I think it's a it's a key
Speaker 1: lesson in that though, because the reason kind of came
Speaker 1: to y'all because he wanted the media platform you understand me,
Speaker 1: specifically one of the black media platform. It's not easy
Speaker 1: for when the black man does do something that goes
Speaker 1: against the grain to also have a platform, right, right,
Speaker 1: So it's very important that both didn't tell me to
Speaker 1: take it down. By the way, both didn't tell us,
Speaker 1: but they laughed at us when he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they told us, dope put it up. Really, that's
Speaker 1: keep everybody didn't tell y'all to take it down because
Speaker 1: a lot of people blame revolt when revolts still put
Speaker 1: it out there because the idea was to give a
Speaker 1: voice you understand me in the platform, whether you agree
Speaker 1: with it or not. He went on Piers morgane all
Speaker 1: of the other that was that none of those people
Speaker 1: because until globhouse, regular traditional media giving voices you understand
Speaker 1: me and black me, that everybody wants to control our voice. Right.
Speaker 1: We try to bully each other, right, even getting the
Speaker 1: suit that's bullying each other, because we don't try to
Speaker 1: bully other people because we know they got back up
Speaker 1: in power, right, and we do that ain't definitely we
Speaker 1: do that neighborhoods, right, We bully each other because we
Speaker 1: know you ain't got back up and touched that white
Speaker 1: boy touched that cop because they got back That's the
Speaker 1: same thing with everybody else in their net works. So
Speaker 1: I think that in that moment, we have to understand
Speaker 1: that black media is still in an infantile stage as
Speaker 1: far as us having these platforms. So moments like that
Speaker 1: were historical and set precedents that, No, we can have
Speaker 1: conversations even when we are of disagreement. We can make
Speaker 1: mistakes on our platform, right, but we don't have to
Speaker 1: be canceled. You understand me, And seeing like we're being
Speaker 1: criminalized and shunned and crucified. No Black men have the
Speaker 1: right to have their voice, whether you disagree or agree
Speaker 1: with it, and that's something that America never let us have.
Speaker 1: But I think I think to have to have my
Speaker 1: two cents to it. Um Sometimes sometimes I think in
Speaker 1: that documentary they are Kanye's mom said it's hard for
Speaker 1: a giant to see himself in the mirror some something
Speaker 1: to that effect. And I feel like it's hard for
Speaker 1: us to fully understand how powerful we are because we're
Speaker 1: in it. So like for you guys, I don't even
Speaker 1: think you might not even fully understand how important your
Speaker 1: platform is, even if you know. You know, I was
Speaker 1: ignored this. What I'm saying is that when I looked
Speaker 1: at the interview, I looked at it like he was
Speaker 1: coming to you guys to talk about a lot of
Speaker 1: serious issues. And I feel like it was a little
Speaker 1: lighthearted sometimes even with the shots or like the hip
Speaker 1: hop conversations, and I feel like, because you probably looking,
Speaker 1: it was just a regular inter Yeah, I mean this
Speaker 1: is drink champs. Yeah. The day, I want you all
Speaker 1: to be as comfortable as y'all could be. By the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm still gonna try get sometime sometime.
Speaker 1: But you said a key word, you said journalists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just gone. So it's like, I don't like
Speaker 1: saying I don't like considering that you are not well.
Speaker 1: I feel like so when comes on, he's looking at Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a platform where I could reach millions of people,
Speaker 1: and it's hip hop culture. It's my peers, here's my thing,
Speaker 1: here's my thing. Our last interview, he kind of like
Speaker 1: warmed me what he wanted to talk about. So I
Speaker 1: was prepared for that. How he would have said, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know, I would have would hit eighteen keys, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hit you know what I'm saying, Like he has
Speaker 1: something people there that is knowledgeable or just political, because
Speaker 1: when it goes political and it goes deep, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit too much for me, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean in a certain stance, Like I know my strengths, right,
Speaker 1: But I felt like when he came he looked at
Speaker 1: it like this is a safe place for me. That's
Speaker 1: definitely right. And it was. And it doesn't mean let
Speaker 1: me just tell you something. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest compliments I've ever had was after
Speaker 1: I interviewed Kanye the first time, and we went to
Speaker 1: a Prime one twelve and all the black women came
Speaker 1: up to him and said hi, and he was like,
Speaker 1: this is the first time black women to say and
Speaker 1: I was just like, what this is? Like? I was
Speaker 1: blown away because he was like, Yo, this is what
Speaker 1: you gave to me. So I was like, oh, it
Speaker 1: was like, you gave me my people back exactly. So
Speaker 1: so he just kept like this before you finish your point.
Speaker 1: There's something to appreciate about that interview as well, because
Speaker 1: the George fourth thing that happened in the first five minutes,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that was an easy, low hanging
Speaker 1: fruit to serve to the population while ignoring the other
Speaker 1: of the interview, right because now you don't have to
Speaker 1: have real discussions on the point points truth and facts
Speaker 1: that he actually brought up. And the reason that he
Speaker 1: was happy that he came on there and you gave
Speaker 1: him a platform to speak truth, be revolutionary in his thought, unfiltered,
Speaker 1: and his people loved him for that. So he wanted
Speaker 1: to come back and do the same thing. In his mind,
Speaker 1: he was doing that and so and the rest of
Speaker 1: the interview, whether you agree with that part or disagree,
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. We have to get to a point
Speaker 1: as a people where we're not distracted by the things
Speaker 1: that we disagree with, but we have commonality on the
Speaker 1: things that we do agree with. Like sorry to cut
Speaker 1: you off, but he said I can say some such
Speaker 1: and such things, but he never actually said it. He didn't.
Speaker 1: He was and that was his goal, wasn't it. His
Speaker 1: goal was to get out of the contract. I think
Speaker 1: that people make it seem like just dry dropped him.
Speaker 1: He said years before, he said, weeks before. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get out this deal. They're doing me wrong. So
Speaker 1: for me, it looks like a strategy. Right. You can
Speaker 1: call it crazy, but the reality of it is you
Speaker 1: have a goal, you do something, and then you successfully
Speaker 1: get that and then everybody call you a faiure forward.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense to me because if you can't
Speaker 1: control the narrative of what just happened, everybody else puts
Speaker 1: their spin on it. That's what he was talking. I
Speaker 1: just want to go back to that point about journalism,
Speaker 1: because that's how you gotta like when people said that
Speaker 1: about that's at first, I'm like, no, bro, Like I'm
Speaker 1: just educated, bro, I'm just doing my job, but like
Speaker 1: you're actually creating a platform where this is journalism. He
Speaker 1: came here, it was for a safe space. He said
Speaker 1: some things that you may not agree with, but you
Speaker 1: allowed him the space to say it. And so inside
Speaker 1: of it, it was like, well, what is your job
Speaker 1: now to dude? Are you supposed to, like, hey, review
Speaker 1: him or letting him speak, because that's what the journalists
Speaker 1: will do. A train journalist has the tools to rebuttle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but sometimes but the strangers knowing, like you know
Speaker 1: that times that might not be my strength. You see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like I can't interview are Kelly?
Speaker 1: Come on man? Kelly said what's the camera? Where's the camera?
Speaker 1: I would have walked out like like that's not my
Speaker 1: strength some minutes. That's what I'm saying. Talk to anybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably talk to anybody. But the part was what you're
Speaker 1: saying is I was gonna lose to it. It was
Speaker 1: like to get my people back right. So for so
Speaker 1: long he's been in that space where it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: he's he's talking with this is what he's saying. He
Speaker 1: doesn't like, he doesn't a pot black people, But where's
Speaker 1: the one place I can go, I can get him
Speaker 1: back like this and that was you right, And so
Speaker 1: it was like, it's interesting that you set that part
Speaker 1: like when you went outside, and it was like he
Speaker 1: felt that because he knew intentively, like this is the
Speaker 1: p to see it myself. Yeah, And it wasn't just
Speaker 1: regular black woman. It was a couple of the big
Speaker 1: black woman and that's you know, that's real black woman.
Speaker 1: When you got you know what I mean, have he
Speaker 1: said black woman, that's Mama's right there, Like he was like,
Speaker 1: that's what he said to me. He was like, Mama's
Speaker 1: all right. Cool. You know, since Kim black woman hasn't
Speaker 1: really fucked with me. But then but I've seen that
Speaker 1: Mama's I was like, holy sh it because I'm like,
Speaker 1: they hardly funk with me because I love and hip hop.
Speaker 1: They're like, I see your love and hip hop boy
Speaker 1: a cool. Yeah, but let's see, there was only two platforms.
Speaker 1: He could have came drink champs now he didn't know.
Speaker 1: He could have came a high level conversation right now
Speaker 1: and you know, and you know, to a couple of
Speaker 1: your journalists. It's up we review it to a couple
Speaker 1: of our journalists. Like, no, yeah, it's out of line.
Speaker 1: Why would they let shut up? He didn't calling you,
Speaker 1: that's a fact. He didn't calling you, just keeping a hunting.
Speaker 1: He ain't calling you since neither, so relaxed. You know,
Speaker 1: people always criticize my bad. I had to say that
Speaker 1: for a long time. If you stay out of it,
Speaker 1: concertain people ain't gonna lie that it was critiquing me.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking like they're like, no, he's out of
Speaker 1: line for taking car. No I'm not. This is still
Speaker 1: one of the most what gods of you believe in
Speaker 1: his views or you believe in his Honestly what I
Speaker 1: didn't know, and he got a lot of the people
Speaker 1: that criticizing and don't own their platforms, they couldn't take
Speaker 1: him off. It's not because they didn't want someone like
Speaker 1: we got to be careful with criticizing, and if we're
Speaker 1: not in a position to criticize, Like there's workers and
Speaker 1: there's bosses. Bosses and workers are in the same conversation.
Speaker 1: But how about Nike with with Kyrie, Like, but let
Speaker 1: me just finish. That's good because that's important. Ownership is
Speaker 1: real big for us, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like we we have to be and it's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with being a worker, but product yourself as soul.
Speaker 1: Problem is that a lot of times with workers and
Speaker 1: we talk to each other, as with bosses, we have
Speaker 1: to be extremely careful of how we speak to each
Speaker 1: other because language is important. So it's like, just be
Speaker 1: careful because you wouldn't talk to somebody else in that
Speaker 1: same manner, because I haven't seen you talking to anybody
Speaker 1: else in that same manner. You ain't talk to talk
Speaker 1: Carson in that manner. You can talk to Piers Morson
Speaker 1: in that manner. You ain't talk to anybody in that
Speaker 1: manner except there come outside, except except for the person
Speaker 1: that you deem as your peer. But we're not peers,
Speaker 1: Like know what I'm saying. So that's important for people
Speaker 1: to understand, because I feel like it's it's gotten so
Speaker 1: comfortable with Twitter, even the Dean saying is like, we
Speaker 1: got so comfortable disrespecting each other each other. It's so easy,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so so easy. But it's like, like I said,
Speaker 1: be careful how we speak to each other because words
Speaker 1: are important and you could say something that could end
Speaker 1: your life or in somebody else's life and it's like
Speaker 1: a lot of times people end up in the penitential,
Speaker 1: they end up dead based off of emotions, based off
Speaker 1: of words. But then when you really look at it,
Speaker 1: it wasn't even that serious. But conflict resolution. How do
Speaker 1: we disagree with somebody in an honorable manner? How do
Speaker 1: we disagree with somebody without trying to publicly embarrass them,
Speaker 1: because now you publicly embarrassed when nobody wins, because now
Speaker 1: it's gonnly gonna escalate, escalate to the point where it
Speaker 1: might not even lead to violence. But it's it's so
Speaker 1: much disrespect that the relationship is completely the meek mills.
Speaker 1: No one actually knows what they've beefing over, if they
Speaker 1: even beefing. Like we know that he's something a couple
Speaker 1: of times and he just responded, well he didn't add
Speaker 1: him or something like that. But the fact there's like
Speaker 1: none of us know that. Yeah, and that's why I
Speaker 1: think public and that's one thing and I love Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ain't one of my favorites of all time, but
Speaker 1: I just wish that summertimes he would just stop talking
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying, That's
Speaker 1: how That's how it was brought up like I don't
Speaker 1: talk like I feel like you heard the record he
Speaker 1: put on Instagram. Yeah, it's like a snippet, right, people
Speaker 1: like that. I feel like I was raised Its like
Speaker 1: men don't talk like that, Like this is a new
Speaker 1: error where men just feel so comfortable speaking about other men,
Speaker 1: about other men's money, about other men like that. That's
Speaker 1: not a great question towards you, not how I was
Speaker 1: brought up. Is that money? Are we blaming that on money?
Speaker 1: Are we blame that's a that's a that's a lack
Speaker 1: of code of ethics from childhood. But also but let
Speaker 1: me then pink because it support it's a code of
Speaker 1: ethics fro childhood where you understand that, Okay, some things
Speaker 1: you don't speak about. You don't speak about somebody else
Speaker 1: like publicly, you don't discredit somebody, don't talk about somebody
Speaker 1: else's money, especially if you don't have a complete understanding
Speaker 1: of knowledge, like you're looking crazy out here like dr
Speaker 1: Umar said that. Um but even before, even before you
Speaker 1: had a good about said about Omar and Kyrie. But
Speaker 1: when it comes to speaking you understand me. It is
Speaker 1: because my brother is right on code of ethics. But
Speaker 1: it's Also, men are afraid to speak truth nowadays as well.
Speaker 1: So the refreshing aspect of Kanye was that he's speaking
Speaker 1: a lot of truth. Whether you believe he stood or
Speaker 1: lived for that truth, that doesn't matter. What he said
Speaker 1: true and we know that most of us will agree,
Speaker 1: right but not publicly. Ll agreed on Saturday Night Live. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like people with platform because you're afraid
Speaker 1: of being d platform, you're afraid of being demonetized. And
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything that Dave Chappelle said offensive the
Speaker 1: way he did it. He didn't say nothing offensive. It
Speaker 1: was it wasn't jazz, but it was light, but it
Speaker 1: was heavy at the same time because what he was
Speaker 1: saying was pretty much what he was saying, and he
Speaker 1: was he was kind of taking shots at Kanye on
Speaker 1: the know in my opinion, but it was well, it
Speaker 1: was well thrown out. That's like he has these thoughts
Speaker 1: and it's just in my opinion, like he has these
Speaker 1: thoughts and yes, something that make sense, but the delivery
Speaker 1: all the time, it's like it or he heard something,
Speaker 1: he got a source of information that was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I just got this new information and I know what
Speaker 1: that's like. When you get information, you want to share it.
Speaker 1: But you did you do a death of research on
Speaker 1: that amazing that you got or did you just take
Speaker 1: the source and like all right, that's it, I'm running
Speaker 1: with it. And it's like, yo, I got it. I'm
Speaker 1: out of here with it, and now let me go
Speaker 1: through the and then and then also society, actually they
Speaker 1: don't know what you're trying to say. So people demonize
Speaker 1: you for what you said exactly how you said, the
Speaker 1: way you said it. But come on, now you know
Speaker 1: what he was trying to say. You know what the
Speaker 1: context was behind it. So even if you get somebody
Speaker 1: that's ignorant on the subject, but they speaking on something
Speaker 1: that's real, they may not know, and the way you
Speaker 1: can attack them and trying to get them to go
Speaker 1: more in depth and detail on that nor that it's true,
Speaker 1: but you know, you can tack them on the weaknesses
Speaker 1: of them not being able to fully be defensible on
Speaker 1: that point. You understand me. And that's how the media
Speaker 1: does it, and that's how society does it to deceptively
Speaker 1: manipulate people. You understand me that that's always been a way.
Speaker 1: So for me, I'm one of those people that well,
Speaker 1: I know what you were trying to say, here's the
Speaker 1: context behind it. There's truth behind it, there's facts behind it,
Speaker 1: and a lot of black men are afraid to speak
Speaker 1: up and to speak of truth because of look of
Speaker 1: what happened. You understand me. Like, we know that the
Speaker 1: business world has been taxing and playing black men and
Speaker 1: women for years, that the industry has always been unfair
Speaker 1: based on whoever owns it. But when we speak up
Speaker 1: on that, we can never be direct. And when you do,
Speaker 1: it's because you're already in the pocket of the people
Speaker 1: that you're trying to speak up against. So therefore you
Speaker 1: can never truly speak your mind when you're owned by
Speaker 1: the people you're speaking against. You understand me. And so
Speaker 1: that's the most dangerous thing that we have to get
Speaker 1: to a point where where we're growing now black men
Speaker 1: are having these conferences, whether it's us or whether it's
Speaker 1: people just being inspired that no, we own our voice, right,
Speaker 1: we can say what we want to say when we
Speaker 1: want to say it, and you goddamn know what the
Speaker 1: funk I meant. That's a part of it. So like
Speaker 1: even when we're saying like, yeah, we gotta own our voice,
Speaker 1: we got to create our own platforms. Yeah, that's true,
Speaker 1: right because after y'all, that's the last platform has been
Speaker 1: on if you look at it and seting like everyone
Speaker 1: has never been left by us. But if it's only y'all,
Speaker 1: then if I do y'all and there's a backlash, Now
Speaker 1: where do I go high level conversations? But that's only
Speaker 1: two like what I'm saying, Like like what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if we only got two options, then I might have
Speaker 1: to go to different outlets. My thing with with with
Speaker 1: him is just like and I've always said this is
Speaker 1: like right now. I mean, we've seen his career, We've
Speaker 1: seen how it's played out. We we we know goes
Speaker 1: through these these times in his life, and it's like,
Speaker 1: at some point it's like, who's going to stop putting
Speaker 1: the mac in front of him? No, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it's if it's about not putting it. I
Speaker 1: think that well we have in our cultures, you know,
Speaker 1: because I don't think sometimes just shutting up is the
Speaker 1: answer getting to the point and the crux of it,
Speaker 1: because everything that he talks about is bigger than him, right,
Speaker 1: So at some point in time, we got to stop
Speaker 1: trying to blame the messenger, and we talk about the message, right,
Speaker 1: because that's where the actual change of impacts come. Kanye
Speaker 1: West is a voice for the message that everybody agrees with,
Speaker 1: but they can't agree with it publicly. But the thing
Speaker 1: with Kanye is that, and I love Kanye, but the
Speaker 1: mess ensured and the message is tied closely together, and
Speaker 1: the message from MESA changes almost daily. So it's like,
Speaker 1: if you it's hard to it's hard to follow a
Speaker 1: message when the messages here one day and here the next.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember at one point he
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I don't have no industry friends, and
Speaker 1: I was like why. He was like, no one contacted
Speaker 1: them when Kim took the babies, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if I had to add that, I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: the thing about it, because that's like saying people go
Speaker 1: to child support every day, like nobody gonna that as
Speaker 1: a man, Like you're gonna go through that, like it's
Speaker 1: part of it, Like remember changing, So it's like but
Speaker 1: once again he blamed the whole industry for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, everyone, I don't think that was the
Speaker 1: part of his message that matters, you understand me, That's
Speaker 1: why when when you see some people champion, it's because
Speaker 1: they're taking a part that does matter and they're having
Speaker 1: a conversation on that, right, And that's the equity and
Speaker 1: the control of our power. You understand me, our intellectual property,
Speaker 1: our talent, is our skills, our gifts, Right, that's the
Speaker 1: part that mattered the most. And the truth is we
Speaker 1: don't own that. So I feel like Kayane West is
Speaker 1: will always Becomeing West. You can have conversations about him
Speaker 1: till you turn blue. But the reality of it is
Speaker 1: is that he gave us an opportunity to talk about
Speaker 1: something that's real that we really do need to own
Speaker 1: and change. But the whole thing about it is like
Speaker 1: we spend too much time talking about problems and other people.
Speaker 1: We gotta start talking about the future and solutions. So
Speaker 1: it's like, right now we're in the future and we
Speaker 1: got solutions. So when we talk about collaboration, it's like
Speaker 1: high level conversation. He references show a few different times,
Speaker 1: and that's a collaborative effort between us E y Oh
Speaker 1: Network and his show High Level Conversations. We come together
Speaker 1: and we didn't have the green light. We didn't have
Speaker 1: to ask for permission. Now he gets to put his
Speaker 1: voice out. We have a platform, he has a voice.
Speaker 1: We worked together, and this is something that's happening in
Speaker 1: real time. So many times we highlight the problem but
Speaker 1: not the solution and not what's actually happening in real time.
Speaker 1: And that's something that is very detrimental because it's like
Speaker 1: we'll spend so much time speaking about what's wrong, what
Speaker 1: we don't have. Yeah, we already know that we we
Speaker 1: come to this country as slaves. Of course we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a tremendous disadvantage, but we are making progress. So
Speaker 1: we could spend years talking about the ship that we
Speaker 1: don't own, the things that are funked up, our culture
Speaker 1: that's dysfunctional. But why don't we spend more time highlighting
Speaker 1: what's going right, where the direction that we're headed in,
Speaker 1: and what are the solutions to fix the problem. That's like,
Speaker 1: this is important. What I'm saying like podcasts, podcast space, media,
Speaker 1: this is actually media. I'm saying it started that, it
Speaker 1: started that it's a show. But that's why this is
Speaker 1: so important, Right, we own these things like that that
Speaker 1: we didn't grow up seeing that we didn't have. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying like we are all news was
Speaker 1: coming from rap city, you know what I'm saying, nobody
Speaker 1: and in music box me and doing this and people
Speaker 1: will like just give away the YouTube and me. And
Speaker 1: he was like, we never put in our show on
Speaker 1: YouTube without getting paid. Like we were like were like
Speaker 1: we went through someone ship in the music industry that
Speaker 1: we was like we were dicks. Everyone who did deal
Speaker 1: with us dick acts. And we were like, well that's
Speaker 1: just a good business exactly. But you learn in the business,
Speaker 1: so like that's something we have to learn to Like
Speaker 1: we don't like he's a financial advisor. I come from education,
Speaker 1: but like we didn't think this was gonna be a business.
Speaker 1: As we started realizing, like yeah, what's happening to him,
Speaker 1: Like oh wait, this is actually a business. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to create something. We're gonna have to learn the space.
Speaker 1: But why we're learned it, which is key. We're teaching
Speaker 1: people about it, which is the other part that you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like as he talked about solution,
Speaker 1: the solution of collaboration, right because mostly none of us
Speaker 1: have everything, but each person has a part of it.
Speaker 1: They understand me one person as I did maybe the
Speaker 1: other person has the funding. Right when we talk about
Speaker 1: the solution number one of like, you can give millions
Speaker 1: of dollars to h b c US, but we also
Speaker 1: have organizations to where we independently educate our people directly
Speaker 1: on the skill sets so that they can produce assets. Right,
Speaker 1: that's key. That's that's something that we haven't even addressed
Speaker 1: whatsoever in our community. You understand me, not to I
Speaker 1: just want to say something. Let me let me feel
Speaker 1: the point real quick. Important touting not to knock, not
Speaker 1: to n I learned from nor. We're not asking for donations. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's why you gotta let me finish when
Speaker 1: I'm giving people a solution about how we fundel our
Speaker 1: money and where we the way we look at things,
Speaker 1: there's this old standard of looking at education as the
Speaker 1: model for saviorism. Right, you get educated, you understand, you
Speaker 1: become the one in the family that can take it
Speaker 1: to the trajectory. When we have millionaires, billionaires, organizations, institutions,
Speaker 1: they don't look at our show the same way that
Speaker 1: they look at other things. They don't look at our
Speaker 1: platform the same way. But we're the new replacement where
Speaker 1: the newer version of that. When you talk about, all right,
Speaker 1: how can his family get the assets and the education
Speaker 1: inside that family so that that last name has the value. Well,
Speaker 1: we teach those sort of things, right, So you can
Speaker 1: big up at HBCU, but you can also big up
Speaker 1: E y L University. You can also big up block
Speaker 1: World Order my space. Right, So when you're talking about that,
Speaker 1: it's saying that, yes, we are the new solution. Yes
Speaker 1: we are creating a new institution right for us that
Speaker 1: is by us as well. So it's it's it's retraining
Speaker 1: people even how to look at us and what we're
Speaker 1: doing because they got all these old frameworks of thinking.
Speaker 1: They don't know how to properly see us for who
Speaker 1: we are and what we've done. It's not easy to
Speaker 1: create multiple organizations and institutions and education platforms travel around
Speaker 1: the world and reach millions of people with the type
Speaker 1: of messaging that we've done. You see the resource, But
Speaker 1: behind the scenes is genius, you understand me. Behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: it's us developing ourselves to produce something that's never been done.
Speaker 1: So that means that that has to be given a
Speaker 1: special place in the courture that everybody has to come
Speaker 1: together and put their stamp on this ship, not just
Speaker 1: some people, because we're gonna easily project the nigga for
Speaker 1: getting on the beat and wrapping about some boyshit. But
Speaker 1: if we can travel around the world and teach our
Speaker 1: people how to get themselves out the pool pit, then
Speaker 1: you gotta tap in. And And the thing about it
Speaker 1: is like everything ever, every every everything, every every everything
Speaker 1: he said, Everything he said was true. But also it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, just looking back on it, whether people champion
Speaker 1: or not, it don't really even matter in my thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not even telling somebody you gotta do this, you
Speaker 1: gotta do that, because ultimately you do whatever you want
Speaker 1: to do. Bro, Like know what I'm saying. But it's like,
Speaker 1: for too long we look at black businesses as charities
Speaker 1: and then we look at like donations as a way
Speaker 1: to building wealth. That's not true because it's like how
Speaker 1: much money has been given to Africa and it hasn't
Speaker 1: changed the condition of the people in that situation. So
Speaker 1: it's like, when we're doing business, this is real busines
Speaker 1: is that we're standing on. We're offering a product that's
Speaker 1: worth every single bit that we're actually charging for. If
Speaker 1: you don't think that it is worth it, then don't
Speaker 1: pay for it. But we're not asking for a donation
Speaker 1: and we're not asking for handouts. We're doing real business
Speaker 1: and we're standing on it and we're providing a service
Speaker 1: and not just hearing America globally what there's an Abu
Speaker 1: Dhabi was in London, whether it's in Africa, whatever. So
Speaker 1: this is the things that we got to start looking
Speaker 1: at ourselves in a whole different light where it's like,
Speaker 1: now we're not we're not comparing ourselves to rappers because
Speaker 1: we're not rappers. We're not telling you that you've gotta
Speaker 1: stamp this because you don't have to stamp it. We're
Speaker 1: not asking you for anything because you don't gotta give
Speaker 1: us nothing. But at the end of the day, we're
Speaker 1: still going prosper. So it's like this is this is
Speaker 1: a level of confidence that we gotta have and too
Speaker 1: often we don't have that level of confidence because we're
Speaker 1: still looking at ourselves as charity victims, like we're not victims.
Speaker 1: So that's that's extremely important for people to understand, especially
Speaker 1: for the entrepreneurs that I'll look at it is it's
Speaker 1: complimentary you either enemy or a friend, and our courture.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of enemies, you understand me. Some
Speaker 1: people claim to be a part of the curture, but
Speaker 1: every single thing that they put out of some nigger
Speaker 1: ship and they none of it progressive whatsoever, you understand me.
Speaker 1: But they claim that they are part of it, and
Speaker 1: we give them accreditation and things of that nature, and
Speaker 1: we allow people to come up there and say, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're black, We're part of the courture. No, we gotta
Speaker 1: start snatching that car away, you not, because most of
Speaker 1: the things that they do are anti black, you understand me.
Speaker 1: Most of the music you make is anti black, most
Speaker 1: of the products that you make are anti black. Everything
Speaker 1: about your whole foundation and what you build is anti black.
Speaker 1: And what we're doing, you understand me, is pro black
Speaker 1: or pro good, because when we say anti black, it
Speaker 1: means that the things that you're putting out are not
Speaker 1: good for us. Right, But we were still champion you.
Speaker 1: So I feel like we gotta have soldiers in the courture.
Speaker 1: There are some people that you gotta give orders to
Speaker 1: because otherwise they don't know to do it. Like we've
Speaker 1: done this without that. Ain't got a donation or accreditation,
Speaker 1: none of that. I believe that validation comes from within
Speaker 1: and your accreditation is the work in the resource that
Speaker 1: you do. But at the same time, if you don't
Speaker 1: retrain the culture, because we've been programmed to do what
Speaker 1: we do, this ain't happened by accident. We've been programming
Speaker 1: every instance, from school to music, to entertainment to the preachers. Right,
Speaker 1: so it's people who have sold us out. Everything about
Speaker 1: our courture has been intentionally programmed for us to think
Speaker 1: and do what we do. Now, there's not going to
Speaker 1: be no accidental movement of getting us in the right direction.
Speaker 1: People have to be trained to do right. You understand me.
Speaker 1: It's easy to get the Mohammad said, there's easy to
Speaker 1: get people to go on the wrong direction. It's hard
Speaker 1: to get them to go in the right direction. That
Speaker 1: means that we have to do ten times more work.
Speaker 1: That means that we have to make sure that the
Speaker 1: organizations are just people. You understand me. They watch this show,
Speaker 1: they see what we do. They're here in the impact.
Speaker 1: We're talking about financial intelligence. We're talking about creating social
Speaker 1: grams and solutions. And yeah, another holiday where people are
Speaker 1: going to buy mostly liabilities. But if we can change
Speaker 1: them of the cycles that we on, we produce different results.
Speaker 1: So I am a firm believal of giving people orders.
Speaker 1: Whether you take that order or not, that's on you.
Speaker 1: But for those who consider themselves to be on the
Speaker 1: side of good, then rock We're good. But if you
Speaker 1: consider yourself to be good and you do sucking ship,
Speaker 1: then you are what you do your faith. I want
Speaker 1: to spake the game. Can we talk hip hop? Forward?
Speaker 1: Were before? All right? We're gonna give you two choices,
Speaker 1: one with Thomas Slane one. Listen, listen to choices one.
Speaker 1: Nobody drinks if you say both are neither, we're drinking.
Speaker 1: We drink what you don't? We don't? Yes, right, what's this?
Speaker 1: What's this that's to own? How much fine about mamahuana?
Speaker 1: Make that it can do? Tak Yeah, got y'all some
Speaker 1: hats two? Got some man? Yeah, that's so healthy. Stuff
Speaker 1: going on? Put it on the last time I put
Speaker 1: on work out run back. Just let you know what, man,
Speaker 1: I just playing TUPAC or DMX. I'm gonna go pop.
Speaker 1: I'm from Oakland. Wait, what one gotta go? No, you
Speaker 1: pick one? Who's your favorite? Who's your favorite? If you
Speaker 1: say both are me? Like the political I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say d MX. He's from like pretty much our neighborhood,
Speaker 1: and he gave a whole different level of pride to
Speaker 1: us when he came out. So I gotta go with them.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take DMX two and not one four. It's
Speaker 1: just a bond that we're gonna have. Usually make y'all
Speaker 1: drake because y'all not together. Because you're all together, we're
Speaker 1: gonna let from Yeah, I respect that. Okay, that this
Speaker 1: one they picked that they're supposed to pick. That's very true.
Speaker 1: Podcasts or radio podcast Yes, okay, ready you take this one,
Speaker 1: Jay z or Nas business wise, business wise the only
Speaker 1: place my son's name is not sick. So I'm partial
Speaker 1: in that. Now's my favorite of all time. But of course,
Speaker 1: Hope is the billy go, especially when it comes to business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but not is incredible to in the Vestrian capital space.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't discountact. Yes, I've been telling him to give
Speaker 1: me an investment years in w as I'm in w A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to take a shot, now, are you really
Speaker 1: the West coast man? West Coast is that you got.
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up listening to that. You didn't grow
Speaker 1: up and listening to in w A. There's no way,
Speaker 1: it's impossible. He wasn't. He's not even old enough. Older brother,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You like, you're like five
Speaker 1: years old to play all that gangster ship my brother.
Speaker 1: I remember asking for easy Ease album when I was
Speaker 1: like seven years old, ain't I didn't get it. But
Speaker 1: the kids for ron production, production, production and business business,
Speaker 1: you said, who yeah, yeah, I go yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Shout what the good hotel? What's it called
Speaker 1: good times? Good time? I'll tell you that's that's a
Speaker 1: big move. That's a big move. I gotta relax in
Speaker 1: the room. One time I was cheaper. They say it's
Speaker 1: like a French hotel, the tallest thing in the world,
Speaker 1: like five nine. You're laying the bed, your feet in
Speaker 1: the back. I was like, by the way, I was
Speaker 1: laying the wrong way. I woke up in the morning.
Speaker 1: My wife was like saying this way. I was like,
Speaker 1: gonna tell me down, all right, start with you, sir,
Speaker 1: Malcolm Martin. I'm gonna go with Malcolm. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the shot. He's gonna go with that. No, but what
Speaker 1: you you know, what's interesting is we didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: grow with Malcolm as a hero in the household though.
Speaker 1: You understand me growing up in a black Muslim household. Queens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, like Queens Detroit when he moved
Speaker 1: to New York, he moved to Queen's Eastmhurst respect for
Speaker 1: both as an adult on my own, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: celebrated in my household. You understand me growing up in
Speaker 1: a black Muslim household because we grew up in a nation. Yea.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't study him for myself and Martin for
Speaker 1: myself that I was able to gain respect for them
Speaker 1: as a grown man. Okay, I'll leave or Tyson alive.
Speaker 1: Ali shot Mike though a yeah, my close as when
Speaker 1: you hit we don't know problem legendary shout Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: or Lebron Oh you know, I'm Lebron James all day,
Speaker 1: the greatest to ever do this ship Michael Michael, Yeah, yeah, disagreed, Michael.
Speaker 1: It's Michael. They got a drink anyway. I think he
Speaker 1: inspired me more when I was a kid, so, Mike, Yeah,
Speaker 1: from a business standpoint is the best stand I was
Speaker 1: so proud Bron and that media meeting Jerry Jones. Yes,
Speaker 1: where he just sat there was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: They're not gonna ask me about this. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: ask me about this? Like to me, we needed that
Speaker 1: to me because as an athlete, you know, I've seen
Speaker 1: every Michael Jordan game, but as the times that we
Speaker 1: live in, I don't think Jordian would did that, not
Speaker 1: even it was back there, not even a thought he
Speaker 1: the Jordan was living down. But the reality is, even
Speaker 1: from a media standpoint, nobody's really still pressed him hard
Speaker 1: about that that picture even after even after he said that,
Speaker 1: Stephen the Bron said that, but even from the Bron standpoint,
Speaker 1: it was like it felt like that was audible on
Speaker 1: the barn. Yeah, we test him about Kyrie. I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say that I felt like Kyrie when the
Speaker 1: Kyrie situation happened, we didn't hear from him in the
Speaker 1: way we thought we was. He made it up right
Speaker 1: there and there, and then it was like, oh we
Speaker 1: needed that because he left. But I mean we Lebron
Speaker 1: Ron just Avricara shout the map, shout the rich rich Pall.
Speaker 1: I just spoke to Risport other day. That's crazy, solid,
Speaker 1: good solid, Go to you, scarface Ice cube ice Cube.
Speaker 1: I gotta think just gonna take that. He really well,
Speaker 1: you can do. He changed the rule just to take shots.
Speaker 1: But I used to go back and forth st born
Speaker 1: to St. Louis. I left when I was two, then
Speaker 1: raised in Oakland, but I remember going when I went
Speaker 1: back to high school in St. Louis and it was
Speaker 1: accident as our favorite rappers I'm naming dub c ice
Speaker 1: que They start laughing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would listen
Speaker 1: to what I was a man in St. Louis at
Speaker 1: that time. I don't think it really won up. I mean,
Speaker 1: you had a question the lunatic Top five Queens artists
Speaker 1: from Queen me. My top five Queens artists changed every time,
Speaker 1: but definitely not as Who's you Wrap Mob Deep called
Speaker 1: Mega or Flush Launch Professor seven people. Yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: cheeks boys, boys, you know what I mean. You're not
Speaker 1: sticking to a fire. No no, no, not gonna come
Speaker 1: to Queens. Be the best bir can I get one,
Speaker 1: get one? We got the best rappers ever in Queens.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if you gotta just
Speaker 1: just give it to us. Y'all invented it, y'all invented it.
Speaker 1: But you know, Queen's cameras funked up by saying the
Speaker 1: bridge is over and then we've just never been over
Speaker 1: since then just kept and then Nah, saved us saved
Speaker 1: there with it. Okay, butlet's just stake with gree time,
Speaker 1: all right. I like this because you like you like,
Speaker 1: just move his nigger here right now. Drake a little way, drizzy,
Speaker 1: drizzy Drizzy, the best to ever do this ship. I
Speaker 1: could already tell we drinking because you do not agree. Nah,
Speaker 1: I'm a huge, huge Wing fan. But Drake Castle, that's
Speaker 1: past them. That's so in the first is you going
Speaker 1: with Drake hundred? I love hundred missiles, but Drake just
Speaker 1: got too many trees. Don't tell me you're going with
Speaker 1: Drake to the man, that's tough mixtape wine growing up.
Speaker 1: They just sound different. That's different, just different. Just monsters
Speaker 1: versus even the guard No in the verses. It's just
Speaker 1: a different element. Though. You know when they went on tour,
Speaker 1: so that was like five years ago. Yeah, Trizy way,
Speaker 1: it was like back and forth every night. It was
Speaker 1: a different one. But since that time, he's still putting out.
Speaker 1: Here's still putting out. He just did fifteen millions a
Speaker 1: great point. But why are you trying to change this? Man?
Speaker 1: Just I'm just giving it more that more independent research
Speaker 1: about situation. Independent you know. In the verse, I hear
Speaker 1: what y'all saying. You're talking about hits and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But it's different when you get on that stage and
Speaker 1: people going the starting it's just draking Wayne. It's not
Speaker 1: his it's not all. That's just what I like and
Speaker 1: what I dislike. We're going, I'm gonna have to go
Speaker 1: with Wayne. You gotta take a shot just because I'm saying, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is beautiful. He's just being opposite. No, no, listen,
Speaker 1: opposition is different, right. I went, oh, this is a
Speaker 1: good out to Wheezy. It's a good one. Dave Dash
Speaker 1: or Russell Simmons, I know, we know Da so that
Speaker 1: I just Dame just called me today, So I gotta Dame.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Russell though. But yeah, games the motivation, Okay,
Speaker 1: get the motivation for the whole financial literacy move changed
Speaker 1: my life? Breakfast that changed my life? And which murder much? Yep? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you work? Yeah? Can you get fired? Exactly? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. It's for all three. Start
Speaker 1: with you because I feel like I know who you
Speaker 1: wanna pick, m J or Prince So Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm wrong a ch prince over songs besides purple Brain.
Speaker 1: Jackson all, I'm Mike, you might. I grew up on
Speaker 1: Mike Still. That's that's the first album I ever had
Speaker 1: as a kid with like four years old on the way.
Speaker 1: I'm just just this is a new rule. I'm taking
Speaker 1: a shot for me being wrong. Prince Independent, you didn't
Speaker 1: the chats bar we didn't you think the ass out
Speaker 1: Prince every like like Prince fans. I know women that
Speaker 1: were Prince fans, Prince Prince from a prince at an
Speaker 1: artist and Michael jacks No, but when I go back,
Speaker 1: plays the Princess technically, but he was so woked back.
Speaker 1: Guy has slave on it like he it was ladder
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, that's the fact. It was not like
Speaker 1: Princess early and he changed his name to the artist
Speaker 1: and came out sho name. He wanted the ma. He
Speaker 1: brought his ass out though that pearl, that pear. Prince
Speaker 1: and he were telling me he was really nice and basketball.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, stop. That's the first thing I asked
Speaker 1: the time. Sure, he said, yeah it's fat. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: Queen l m C light way, I'm gonna go with Queen.
Speaker 1: I just met m C though, but I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: she as she she got the Grammy, she got the Tony,
Speaker 1: she got the Oscar. She's one of those queen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Chicago join went crazy for him. Okay, Rolex or Paddick,
Speaker 1: I only I only got I got. I got a
Speaker 1: collection of Rolex. So I'm gonna go with the with
Speaker 1: the role staying staying, Yeah, really put your roles in
Speaker 1: the sky. New Jack City or King of New York,
Speaker 1: New Jack, new Jack, new Jacky legendary. Yeah, shout out
Speaker 1: to Frank White, right, I like this one. You want
Speaker 1: to take this one off? Nike ger didas it's trying
Speaker 1: to cancel my song. I'm trying to represent. No. I
Speaker 1: think it's not even close man, as far as cultural impact.
Speaker 1: How we grew up Nike ship Yeah, I'm a nicky head.
Speaker 1: I w yeah, man, we're gonna keep it going on
Speaker 1: ship broke. I went you back too many shots? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole leg came out, the whole leg. Grab another one. Literally,
Speaker 1: they got the fold out. Okay, I got to go
Speaker 1: back to that's crazy. Let's go. What was the question Nike,
Speaker 1: Joe Check, sover Shpe, Neither check. I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 1: really rocking with neither, but you gotta give an answer. It.
Speaker 1: If I got to give an answer, got to be Adidas.
Speaker 1: Not because I like him, you understand me, no, but
Speaker 1: because as a blood did Kyrie? No, right now, Nike
Speaker 1: open jumped out of the open. That's not gang. You
Speaker 1: called somebody blood. Yeah, we're gonna have to take a shot. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not. I'm just saying that's for my
Speaker 1: energy is stick. They just dropped the the this They
Speaker 1: just dropped you, I know. But they still got for
Speaker 1: real Kyrie, real careful out there. He said, I'm not
Speaker 1: putting himself and got a few in joys me. That
Speaker 1: was one of the best calls I got when I
Speaker 1: was going through it. What's for real? Yeah? But he
Speaker 1: called me. It was like he did nothing wrong, you know,
Speaker 1: And I was like, so what do you think he was? Like?
Speaker 1: Just the profit off it just profit. I sent you
Speaker 1: a DM. I don't remember. I think you sent me
Speaker 1: in d M. You sent me, Yeah, I sent your M.
Speaker 1: I responded to your Yeah, you responded, um, because you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, I watched it, and I don't really
Speaker 1: watch a lot of interviews, but I actually watched the
Speaker 1: whole interview, so I thought that it was it was,
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna have critics man interview. By the way,
Speaker 1: I wish, I wish, I wish I had more knowledge
Speaker 1: I would I have now, And I know it's only
Speaker 1: like a couple of months ago, but it's like I
Speaker 1: learned so much from that moment. Definitely was a learning experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely. I definitely looked everybody who sent me a
Speaker 1: link on Twitter, everybody on Instagram usually like whatever, I
Speaker 1: have to hit every link. I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: and I learned so much. And it's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that I watched I did different. But let's just
Speaker 1: fen a quick time a slide right quick. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: Biggie Biggig. Gotta go with big but big els one
Speaker 1: of the y Yeah, definitely, Okay, Kodak or twenty one
Speaker 1: s Avage. I would go with Kodak Black. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with yet I feel like I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: some bars. Actually, you know, he surprised me on the album.
Speaker 1: It caught me off guard because I was like, he's
Speaker 1: really spitting Who's album? But it's Kodak's vibe is just
Speaker 1: super authentic. Like also being from Florida, we know, like
Speaker 1: remember he was sharing a room right next to us
Speaker 1: in twenty one Cool? I like, yeah, like that her
Speaker 1: loss I'm listen to, and I'm like, all right, this
Speaker 1: is cool. We got some joints. Um. I like twenty
Speaker 1: one because he's actually he's talking about what he's doing
Speaker 1: outside of music though, like he's talking about Financialist. He
Speaker 1: built the whole institution inside Atlanta for kids. I like
Speaker 1: him from that standpoint. From a music standpoint, I might
Speaker 1: take Kodak. I'm gonna take that. What do you think
Speaker 1: about that line that twenty one? Can you do? So?
Speaker 1: For me, I don't know what he's talking about. No,
Speaker 1: I was just singing there because that's what they say.
Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying, meaning behind that saying it. No, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I've never heard another man. So it was like
Speaker 1: I'm just asked, Hi, wait, wait, wait, wait, are you
Speaker 1: trying to say He's trying to say twenty one? Can you? Like?
Speaker 1: I want to say, it's just it's flatboy feminine question
Speaker 1: he's singing it as as right what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think he. I think he's like, can
Speaker 1: you do something right? But singing it and feminine perspect
Speaker 1: that's something like the girl would usually say. So, I
Speaker 1: was just asking because hip hop has become I did
Speaker 1: say it that there's no is blended. It's no longer
Speaker 1: like masculine. Because I see people with persons. It suns
Speaker 1: me sometimes I don't think that part of it. I
Speaker 1: think I've seen some persons out there. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that part. It's not just saying man is different
Speaker 1: these days. Do your thing to different? That's whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't take it. I didn't take it that way.
Speaker 1: I can see how you take it. What you said
Speaker 1: it that way. It sounded that. It sounds crazy if
Speaker 1: you look at it like a little bit. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get him the benefit of doubt. I'm gonna shout to
Speaker 1: the system just like I want. I just called myself like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, hold on, wait a minute, now, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: you got the next one puff or Dre puff or
Speaker 1: Drake dr dr Duff puff. Shout out the puff, shout
Speaker 1: out the shot the black what like whatever, whatever, everybody's
Speaker 1: going with the West Coast. Just just I gotta know
Speaker 1: what whatever, whatever, just Puff, just as whatever we know
Speaker 1: you're going with Dre. Don't worry about it. I'm not.
Speaker 1: Actually I'm gonna go with this is interesting. I want
Speaker 1: you to recall back to last weekend. Has Dre ever
Speaker 1: invited you? That's nothing. I'll be looking at, Like, all right,
Speaker 1: who inspired me the most? Who would have actually had
Speaker 1: some kind of impact in life? Dre. As a human being,
Speaker 1: I would say, no, you understand me. But like the
Speaker 1: work ethic of Puff of like get anything done by
Speaker 1: any means that has inspired me, you understand me, Dre.
Speaker 1: I would have to think about his legacy music West
Speaker 1: Coach that came from him, you understand me. But as
Speaker 1: a human being, if we just picking just off blank,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go with Puff based on that criteria.
Speaker 1: The shot for that solo solo man Black Season in
Speaker 1: the Flesh, O dB of bis Market, O D b Rest,
Speaker 1: Piece of both Um. Oh, Dirty Baskett though Dirty I
Speaker 1: never met, Yeah, he passed in remember when that Blyn
Speaker 1: when we sat there, I want and I told him
Speaker 1: like I was a kid that was voting for Brooklyn
Speaker 1: zo on ballot of the beats. You know, it's gotta win.
Speaker 1: It's gotta win. Like the first time I met old
Speaker 1: dirty bastard, he digging his nose, right, we didn't try
Speaker 1: to give me. We're gonna do it. Hugged him. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Robert Smith or Tyler Perry, that might be the topest
Speaker 1: question right now. You're talking. Um, wow, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with Robert. I'm with all my cards. Yeah yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take a draw on that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm gonna say both. Yeah. We sat down
Speaker 1: with both of them. We had the privilege and sat down,
Speaker 1: sit down with both of them. And you sat down
Speaker 1: with Steve Harvey as well. That's our business that I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, because it was crazy. Steve
Speaker 1: Harvey lebron Rest in Peace, Oh take Off, and me
Speaker 1: was the only people who had the Pearl Master presidential
Speaker 1: Pearl Master, and and Steve Harvey on your interview. I
Speaker 1: was like, I just kept zooming and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, his watch collection. It was crazy. He's different.
Speaker 1: Was here here in the Middle East, He's different. Different.
Speaker 1: Let's say there's no joke shout, so this is the
Speaker 1: last one, loyalty or respect. Loyalty or respect. I'm taking loyalty.
Speaker 1: I'll take loyalty. They don't go hand in hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. I'm trying to see what's the difference
Speaker 1: loyal to somebody you don't respect, and it's hard to
Speaker 1: respect somebody that you're not gonna have some level of
Speaker 1: loyalty to respect both. I mean that this is the
Speaker 1: only one you take the like technically you're supposed to
Speaker 1: go which other way you want, But loyalty and respect,
Speaker 1: it's both. But but if you get respect, then I
Speaker 1: think it comes with loyalty. You understand me. But I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to have a bunch of people loyal to
Speaker 1: me that don't respect me. I'll say this, I'll say
Speaker 1: loyalty because you can you can have respect for somebody
Speaker 1: off of intimidation that you not really have no real
Speaker 1: loyalty to it, or you can have respect for somebody
Speaker 1: because of their position. But if you loyal to somebody,
Speaker 1: it's something deeper than there. So I'm gonna take loyal
Speaker 1: I'm gonna taal, I'm gonna go both tooth both. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. Salute No, I can't get one question for
Speaker 1: you as you say one thing, remember your question, Remember
Speaker 1: your question, because this is this is this is something
Speaker 1: that's written down. They say that black and brown people
Speaker 1: follow every tread Besides, I was sticking together, m Is
Speaker 1: that true? And I like to hit ultimate of y'all.
Speaker 1: I think it's changing. I think that what we what
Speaker 1: were on embarking on is a financial revolution. I said,
Speaker 1: what we're embarking on right now is a financial revolution.
Speaker 1: And so when you see us come to the forefront
Speaker 1: with education and leading by example, but more importantly leading
Speaker 1: by demonstration. Right, So, like when we find out information,
Speaker 1: we give it back to people, but we actually implemented
Speaker 1: at the same time that they're doing it. It changes
Speaker 1: the mindset. It's like, you know, it's aspirational. I could
Speaker 1: do this. Um. So I think that that that there's
Speaker 1: a shift that's happening. And I think up here in
Speaker 1: the corporate level they don't really understand it yet, but
Speaker 1: on the surface they can feel it. And by the
Speaker 1: time they catch on, I mean, we're gonna be bubbling
Speaker 1: to a point where it's like, Yo, things have shifted
Speaker 1: so crazy, and they're gonna figure out trying to figure
Speaker 1: out where it came from. And that goes back to
Speaker 1: the part where like leaders right, Like I like what
Speaker 1: said he was, like, I'm not a leader, I'm a
Speaker 1: friend to you, right because if what happens when you
Speaker 1: shop the leader off, right, then the movement stops. But
Speaker 1: with us, what's leading is information. It's education, which you
Speaker 1: can't stop right. Like information, it's empowered, Like if I
Speaker 1: give you information, you're liable to share it with your friends,
Speaker 1: you're liable to share with your family. It changed, it
Speaker 1: makes everybody leave it, so you really can't stop this movement.
Speaker 1: So I think like right now, this time that we're in,
Speaker 1: like what Key said, it's the most pivotable time right now,
Speaker 1: especially since we came out of pandemic where we had
Speaker 1: an academic downturn, people really gravitated toward information, which is
Speaker 1: kind of pulted us because they looked at us for
Speaker 1: the forefront. But there's leaders that's being created from the
Speaker 1: information all throughout the world and we see it like
Speaker 1: when we went to London and we go to to Legos, Nigeria,
Speaker 1: we're seeing it happen. Um, So it's happening right now.
Speaker 1: I think we're embarking on it right now. I think
Speaker 1: it's a false narrative. We gotta be careful we're repeating
Speaker 1: false narratives because the narratives start to believe it that
Speaker 1: we don't stick together. We work together. It's like saying,
Speaker 1: like black men don't take care of their kids. That
Speaker 1: might have been true for generation, but like all the
Speaker 1: black people that I know my age are in their
Speaker 1: kids lives, I don't know. I may even know one
Speaker 1: or two, but I don't really know that many dead beats,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. So it's like when
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this room right here, I'm seeing you're Cuban, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican, Black y'all coming together. Y'all y'all created the
Speaker 1: biggest platform that we have in our cult. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't stop there. You partner revolt, which is black owned,
Speaker 1: right every single person in here, I see it Black Latino.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we got combo, black owned support, black
Speaker 1: owned businesses support, you got, you got, you got us,
Speaker 1: you got us on black, you got, you got some rock,
Speaker 1: you got spade, you got that, you got the Dominican liquor,
Speaker 1: you got got And then like I said, if you
Speaker 1: look at is that rocks everybody. I just look, I'm
Speaker 1: like so then so then it's like, okay, now you
Speaker 1: got us on his guest right, and you're helping us
Speaker 1: elevate our platform by communicating to an audience that may
Speaker 1: not be familiar with us and wearing black owned media platform.
Speaker 1: We partner with nineteen Keys, but he's black. So what
Speaker 1: does that tell you? Every every single person in here
Speaker 1: is collaborating with with each other on a certain level.
Speaker 1: So it's like that that narrative is just not even really.
Speaker 1: Of course we can do better, of course we can
Speaker 1: always do better, but this it just shows you when
Speaker 1: we're able to accomplish when we do work together. So
Speaker 1: I think that we are working together. We need to
Speaker 1: do more of it. But let's be careful with that
Speaker 1: narrative because the more we repeat it, the more we
Speaker 1: start to believe it. Let me just tell y'all something.
Speaker 1: All three of your brothers and I started by saying this,
Speaker 1: And the reason why is because I've never really seen
Speaker 1: this before. Like I've been i'mty five years old, I've
Speaker 1: been famous, kind of crazy, right like, so I've been
Speaker 1: more famous than i've been poor. I noticed that it's
Speaker 1: a financially good I said, famous. But when I seen
Speaker 1: you brothers, and I've seen you telling people how to
Speaker 1: do this a certain thing, and and and and and
Speaker 1: accumulated wealth and get that, I was like, I said, man,
Speaker 1: this is crazy because I don't really see people. And
Speaker 1: I said, I know, I said that earlier. I don't
Speaker 1: really see people that came before y'all that looked like y'all.
Speaker 1: And you know, some of the best advice you could
Speaker 1: ever get. This for my life a crackhead, right, crackhead
Speaker 1: got the best vice. It's just that you can't really
Speaker 1: take him serious because he made it nowhere in life,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you're sitting here and
Speaker 1: he's telling you to really ship. Ever he's like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: it ain't about the journey. It's about the destination how
Speaker 1: you get there. And you're sitting there like whatever, And
Speaker 1: you're sitting there and you're not really understanding that he
Speaker 1: giving you real science. He given you real reality. But
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, when you look at him, you can't
Speaker 1: really take him serious because like damn, he's gonna ask
Speaker 1: me for five hours at the versation, so he giving
Speaker 1: you the really ship, but then he's gonna say, let
Speaker 1: me get files. You gotta give it, and then once
Speaker 1: you come to the files, his whole conversation actually deteriorates out.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is we don't have because the
Speaker 1: crack can be speaking that financial ship too, like you've
Speaker 1: better saying your money you like, maybe I should listen
Speaker 1: to him, because clearly he didn't say this right, right,
Speaker 1: But we don't take that knowledge because guess what he's
Speaker 1: looking up. He's the presentation. He's telling us the total
Speaker 1: advice that we should be listening to and we should
Speaker 1: be following. But his presentation is so fucked up. That's
Speaker 1: why it's so important for y'all to be be rolled up,
Speaker 1: be looking clean, and you're talking about financial freedom and
Speaker 1: financial wealth and all this. But it's not like they
Speaker 1: can't see it in y'all, right, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And that's very important because are people like
Speaker 1: one thing about becoming old school is if you become
Speaker 1: old school in this game and you ain't got no paper,
Speaker 1: them young dudes ain't listen into roasts of fact, I
Speaker 1: don't give a funk is whatever the village you become old,
Speaker 1: you got this a couple of great hairs I ain't
Speaker 1: have great hands to Kanye came here. By the way,
Speaker 1: I got great hairs now. But but but but by
Speaker 1: the way, if I ain't pulling up in the fandom
Speaker 1: a culinary uh made back, you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: they laugh, they get they get to joke. But if
Speaker 1: you're pulling up in that and that's what's woke up
Speaker 1: about all youth, because I remember you kept saying that
Speaker 1: you gotta remember, like claiming third t X. He realized
Speaker 1: that the older homies wasn't the people to save. He
Speaker 1: realized that he had to go back and save the youth.
Speaker 1: But you gotta be cooler the youth. You can't go
Speaker 1: to the youth and be like, yo, man, don't drink
Speaker 1: that o eat. You gotta actually drink the o E
Speaker 1: with him sometimes to let them know you would. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And then you take them out of that world. It's
Speaker 1: easier to reach the people when you're arms reach of
Speaker 1: the people. You know, there was a time when Frederick
Speaker 1: Douglas was the most photographed man on earth, right, and
Speaker 1: he's one of the greatest abolitionists to exist. So he
Speaker 1: was teaching people freedom. You understand me, And because that's
Speaker 1: hard let's just take a shop for practical dullas. That's
Speaker 1: just hard and we're gonna repeat this on Black History months.
Speaker 1: But think about that though. Why was he the most photographed?
Speaker 1: That was because he presented himself, right. He never smiled
Speaker 1: because he said that it was nothing to smile about,
Speaker 1: you understand me, Because he was fighting for freedom and
Speaker 1: this was serious. But he knew that his appearance was
Speaker 1: the way that he was going to be projected to
Speaker 1: the people around the world. So every time you've seen him,
Speaker 1: he was clean, you understand me. So he showed the
Speaker 1: appearance of what it's like to be free. Right. So
Speaker 1: if we're going to teach people financial freedom, then we
Speaker 1: have to show up looking financially free. Right. And the
Speaker 1: same time we're talking about this right here, Mohammed peach
Speaker 1: right there, man, get the close up on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you stop paying just you know, but more rings in
Speaker 1: the risa. But even when we did the crowns, right,
Speaker 1: I was this is when like I kind of knew,
Speaker 1: how did he have something with the minister said, The
Speaker 1: minister said nothing against him. The minister actually like kind
Speaker 1: of praised that. Did he did he really have that
Speaker 1: two billion? I think he takes personal when you try
Speaker 1: to target his money. He's very sensitive about his finances.
Speaker 1: I noticed, like he takes his money very serious, like
Speaker 1: even for like he keeps going back and forth like
Speaker 1: they misspolded me, they discussed that, Like I think he
Speaker 1: really he really wants that validation of finances, like I'm
Speaker 1: worth this amount of money. And if you question that,
Speaker 1: he takes it personal. I don't think the minister actually
Speaker 1: think I'm something very serious as well on that particular subject.
Speaker 1: Because if you notice, nobody came out from the nation
Speaker 1: and slender came west after that, and that's a that's
Speaker 1: a lesson that Black America needs to take because everything
Speaker 1: is is doesn't have to be a war, you understand me,
Speaker 1: Because even when he said it's a conversation that needs
Speaker 1: to be had, and it is. But what we gonna
Speaker 1: run with is the conflict, not the conversation, right, And
Speaker 1: so I think that the presentation of the Honorable Minister
Speaker 1: lewis far kind and everybody that follows him not coming
Speaker 1: out against him, not creating an issue out of it,
Speaker 1: was a lesson for how we need to handle those
Speaker 1: type of things, right. And the reality of it is
Speaker 1: is we're speaking about the same thing we speak about evaluations.
Speaker 1: Is it really there, right? Or it doesn't come with
Speaker 1: terms of agreement based on a contract that you made
Speaker 1: that say you can maintain your position, you can maintain
Speaker 1: your evaluation, you can say you are who you are
Speaker 1: as long as you follow what we say. Right, and
Speaker 1: this is probably the terms and agreement of all top
Speaker 1: people that we see within our courts. Here. How many
Speaker 1: people can get their wealth snatched away like this if
Speaker 1: they say the wrong thing? Is that wealth? Is that power?
Speaker 1: Is that really billions? Is that really millions? So? But
Speaker 1: when you do that to a people same way where
Speaker 1: you know, during COVID nineteen, all the countries realized they
Speaker 1: had an over dependence on China right for supply chains,
Speaker 1: and countries now want to make their own so they're
Speaker 1: not seen as weak during those type of times. Black
Speaker 1: America is realizing that as well, that if we ever
Speaker 1: want to be free, speak free, move free, then we
Speaker 1: have to not have a dependence on somebody else that
Speaker 1: can control our freedom. Anything that controls your will, you
Speaker 1: are slave too, right, And so rich slaves exist, right.
Speaker 1: Wealthy slaves exist because you're giving liberty, which means that
Speaker 1: you are giving a range of things you can do,
Speaker 1: but not truth freedom to do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1: So that's the difference between liberty and freedom. Most of
Speaker 1: the people that have wealth in our society and our curture,
Speaker 1: they have liberty and they wish they had true freedom
Speaker 1: to where. I want to do this project. I want
Speaker 1: to say what I want to say. I want to
Speaker 1: make this move this way, but I can't because even
Speaker 1: if I want to do this to appease my people,
Speaker 1: I have the piece them people. How about Tyler Perry, right,
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry is one of the most richest people, right,
Speaker 1: but in our community he always gets critiqued for playing Medea.
Speaker 1: I think I think sometimes like like, let me just
Speaker 1: finish like like, and then people say, Okay, yeah, he
Speaker 1: made this billion, he did all this, He did a
Speaker 1: great thing. But guess what he had to get there
Speaker 1: by wearing a dress, you know, Minister Foreire concept something
Speaker 1: about that. It is what made me change my mind
Speaker 1: on it on Tyler Perry because he said, I love
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry movies because of the lessons that he put
Speaker 1: in them. You understand me. And I think that was
Speaker 1: another lesson that he was teaching us is that we
Speaker 1: don't always need to critique everything. See playing grandmother, wouldn't
Speaker 1: grandmother grandmother position? You know, And that's one of those
Speaker 1: things where some people kick down the door. Then the
Speaker 1: next generation are the ones who rushed in the house
Speaker 1: and take over everything right. And I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to be on him to do it. But it's
Speaker 1: an example because think about the type of movies we
Speaker 1: would like to see made right. But can you make
Speaker 1: those movies right? There's so many historical figures. There's there's
Speaker 1: no Marcus Garvey movies, no Noble draw Lead movies, no
Speaker 1: Ulijah Muhammed movies, no Two Saint movies, no Mansa Mussim,
Speaker 1: Hannibal Barker movies, John Horse movies. None of those movies
Speaker 1: about any of our real historical figures. Alba, we gott
Speaker 1: keep making drugs. What happens when we own our media
Speaker 1: and we can like and we can green light our
Speaker 1: own films and control on narratives. We appreciate. You can
Speaker 1: see if somebody, you know, based on what they build
Speaker 1: and what they did with it and the doors they
Speaker 1: kicked down. But I also think that sometimes we don't
Speaker 1: allow a person to fully develop into the legacy that
Speaker 1: they're going to bring about before we criticize, like you
Speaker 1: see will Smith emancipation. I say that one thing about
Speaker 1: Todder Perry because we actually got to speak with him,
Speaker 1: and we got to go to his studio which is
Speaker 1: actually which is crazy restroom. So it's like I think
Speaker 1: that people, everybody, you've been to his studio? No, no,
Speaker 1: it on Instagram? No, no, dope, dope, don't have to.
Speaker 1: There's five there's five Hollywood studios. I believe Sony like
Speaker 1: paramount all of them. Like you can feel all of
Speaker 1: those Hollywood studios on his campus in Atlanta. That's how
Speaker 1: big it is. They said, in any given day, there's
Speaker 1: five thousand people that's working. He employs. I forgot how
Speaker 1: much millions over a hundred million dollars nine the people
Speaker 1: of black people per hundred fifty million a year in
Speaker 1: salaries black people. So it's like sometimes the mean the
Speaker 1: ends justified the means just to find the ends. And
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, once again going back to
Speaker 1: being critical, Yeah, we can, we can criticize the situation.
Speaker 1: But what he's able to, what he's been able to accomplish,
Speaker 1: nobody in one hundred years has built a studio. This, no, this,
Speaker 1: this is something that people need to understand. The last studio,
Speaker 1: the last studio was like Warner Bros. A hundred years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Black, I'm I'm talking about any person.
Speaker 1: He's been able to accomplish when no other person has
Speaker 1: been able to accomplish in one hundred years. And then
Speaker 1: and then all those studios have been in the same place.
Speaker 1: So like, think about what he's done. Right, Not only
Speaker 1: did he take it out of Hollywood, he put it
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia black Hollywood black right, Like, you create
Speaker 1: a whole genre and then you create lots, right, And
Speaker 1: not only do you create your own space to create content,
Speaker 1: you created an economy that listen, you got you got Marvel.
Speaker 1: You got Marvel renting out your studio to shoot Black
Speaker 1: Panther too, right, And on top of it, you're creating
Speaker 1: your own content. But not only in the state that
Speaker 1: the taxes are favorable for. Think about what but when
Speaker 1: we were there, like lets said, you gotta see it, right,
Speaker 1: people are building economies outside of the studio. So what
Speaker 1: it was it was an old military base that used
Speaker 1: to home slaves. So like, thinking about what he's done
Speaker 1: here historically, But outside of those it was an old
Speaker 1: military military base, right, it was a it was a
Speaker 1: Confederate he talked, they're building their building economies outside of it.
Speaker 1: So outside of the areas of the wall, you see
Speaker 1: houses and developments being built. He's creating. It's a city
Speaker 1: outside of his studio. You see what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: it's completely different. Not only is he doing that, but
Speaker 1: who was he employing If you look at all the shows,
Speaker 1: what was he employing people that look like us? Who
Speaker 1: else is doing that? And he's been able to the
Speaker 1: illest part about this, Like I said, you gotta actually
Speaker 1: go there to get a full appreciation, because they give
Speaker 1: you a whole tour, takes about an hour. It's really
Speaker 1: a real estate play because he has more land than
Speaker 1: any Hollywood studio. So what happens is that now he's
Speaker 1: leasing the land back to the Hollywood studio. So they
Speaker 1: filmed some Black Panther at his studio. So Warner Brothers
Speaker 1: is paying him, Disney is paying him to film that
Speaker 1: movie at his studio, Like what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: that's the real play behind it, is like he got
Speaker 1: so much land and he's created different sets. He got
Speaker 1: a set for the White House, he got a set
Speaker 1: that looks like Mississippi. He got a set that looks
Speaker 1: like New York City, all in this big campus in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So now he's he's it's really a real estate play
Speaker 1: in it. So it's like when people just look on
Speaker 1: the surface. Yet he put on the dress. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put on it. Right, I'm not saying that you
Speaker 1: might not agree with that, but how they say every
Speaker 1: black man that's successful kind of like have to do that.
Speaker 1: But look but but but all right, so you don't
Speaker 1: have to do that, but but but but let me
Speaker 1: but let me say you can't with the words sell
Speaker 1: out because for me, you put on that dress to me,
Speaker 1: and regardless of however we context you alright, okay, but
Speaker 1: let me let me finish though, because we got nobody.
Speaker 1: We got nobody talking about drinking lean, we got nobody,
Speaker 1: we got a problem with nobody talking about popping pills.
Speaker 1: We got nobody talking about pimping women, killing another black man,
Speaker 1: what's worse, killing other black men. So what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is that we gotta be extremely careful about always criticizing,
Speaker 1: because you criticizing somebody but are you helping are you hurting?
Speaker 1: You're talking about drinking per meThe zine that's killing people
Speaker 1: is liquid heroin. You're turning the whole culture into drug addicts.
Speaker 1: These kids. If you ever seen somebody when they get
Speaker 1: off of that ship, it's like heroin. They it's the
Speaker 1: same effect when you start nodding and dozing, when you
Speaker 1: go off of withdrawals, you start scratching, you looking like
Speaker 1: a fucking rowing. So it's like, we gotta be extremely
Speaker 1: careful because it's like you promoting game culture and you're
Speaker 1: killing other black young boys fourteen years old that's dying
Speaker 1: over a flag. They don't even understand what they're killing
Speaker 1: each other four a It's like, just be careful, be
Speaker 1: careful criticizing and because we do that too much, and
Speaker 1: we throw around that word sell out and throw it out.
Speaker 1: And if somebody's employing five thousand people, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like there's levels and there's perspective.
Speaker 1: This complexity to the life, therest complexity to life. People
Speaker 1: like like we we create hundred, we create businesses, and
Speaker 1: most times black businesses there's only one employee inside of
Speaker 1: that right as entrepreneurs. But you talk about a man
Speaker 1: who was playing a hundred fifty million salary go to
Speaker 1: black people and fifty millions, that's different. We've never seen
Speaker 1: anything like that. That's why I said, when you you
Speaker 1: have to actually see it, When you see the man's vision,
Speaker 1: it changes your mindset, like being on the property and understanding, like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Like when he's talking about building the
Speaker 1: white house. Now, if somebody is creating a movie and
Speaker 1: they need a white house scene, who you think they call?
Speaker 1: They're calling him? And how many movies is like that?
Speaker 1: How many shows is like that? You do that? I mean,
Speaker 1: speak that man. It was always talked to settle on
Speaker 1: the best part. You understand me. It's not about what
Speaker 1: you don't like. Look for what we do like. You
Speaker 1: understand me. That's the common reality of how we build.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm learning now that even if it's
Speaker 1: somebody I disagree with, But what are the things that
Speaker 1: I do agree with? Because you've been saying this whole time,
Speaker 1: you're Muslim, that's a masculine. Yeah, so obviously you can't
Speaker 1: agree with him. We're in a dress. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think about that too much. I don't agree with no
Speaker 1: men wearing dresses. So it's not I don't personalize it
Speaker 1: to Tyler Perry, but I'll just look at the affeminate
Speaker 1: agenda black man period. A lot of you know when
Speaker 1: when when you're talking about people doing lean that effimilates you,
Speaker 1: you understand me, Like the Brothers, softest hell, sweaty handshakes,
Speaker 1: you understand me, so you know we all of it.
Speaker 1: To me, I'm looking at as the same characteristics, right
Speaker 1: the person that's had the choice right now we're lean.
Speaker 1: I'm doing neither. I mean just because because think about
Speaker 1: it though, when we talk about anti blackness, right, so
Speaker 1: promoting violence, death culture to our people's anti black promoting
Speaker 1: unhealthy products, promoting drugs, and promoting their feminization of black
Speaker 1: men to our people is unhealthy. Black men have it
Speaker 1: the worst in America statistically, right, we have it the
Speaker 1: work health wise, financial wise, prison, however you want to
Speaker 1: slice them. Statistics, we have it the worst. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about from cancer to everything. Yet there are no movements
Speaker 1: around sensitivity towards black man and true mental health programs.
Speaker 1: That's not what they Everybody uses the black man and
Speaker 1: his body for their agenda, even when we die, everybody
Speaker 1: else benefits, and they start creating all these programs and
Speaker 1: all these movements out of it. But part of that
Speaker 1: is the effeminization when you don't have your mind and
Speaker 1: your will. When I'm saying I'm masculin, masterling just means
Speaker 1: the traits typical of a man. No, no, sir, No, sorry,
Speaker 1: no sir, No, I'm good on that. You know, I
Speaker 1: got you know, mom, be Taylor. They'd be Taylor are
Speaker 1: they'd be precise to my measurements. But just just to that,
Speaker 1: maybe we just you know, we just get them exact,
Speaker 1: you know. No, But you know, growing up, I grew
Speaker 1: up in a suit and bow tide. You understand, we
Speaker 1: grew up we used to drill every day. Right, I've
Speaker 1: seen the example of real men with ownership and power
Speaker 1: growing up in Oakland, California. So my disposition of seeing
Speaker 1: a man in a dress is based on how I
Speaker 1: grew up in my perception of that. Right. And then
Speaker 1: when we look at Dave Chappelle, where Dave Chappelle spoke
Speaker 1: about the industry where they specifically want you to do
Speaker 1: things that rob you of your integrity. How many times
Speaker 1: you you you didn't see people they go to parties.
Speaker 1: They go to these places in the industry, things that
Speaker 1: typically will go against their integrity, they still do because
Speaker 1: in that space is judgment free. But when they get home,
Speaker 1: they judging themselves. They're killing themselves. They have to constantly drink,
Speaker 1: constantly socialized, so they don't have to think about the
Speaker 1: things that they're doing. Most of these men die while
Speaker 1: they're living. You understand me. They soul and their spirit
Speaker 1: ain't there no more. And that's what they do a
Speaker 1: lot of times. When they put prominent black bend in position,
Speaker 1: they've killed them, They've destroyed them, so they don't have
Speaker 1: that same will, and that's thing sparked to do something
Speaker 1: powerful and dangerous. Well, that's what you keep worried that
Speaker 1: you just said, is they put you in position. This
Speaker 1: is the good thing about us. We had no gate keeper.
Speaker 1: We didn't have nobody that passes to torch and say, okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna greenlight a show for you, We're gonna give
Speaker 1: you a media company. Everything that we did we had
Speaker 1: to actually figure out for ourselves. Were powered by the people.
Speaker 1: So that gives us a tremendous amount of leverage, not
Speaker 1: only financially, but integrity. I sh but our shows about
Speaker 1: giving people off the flowers. Fear you brothers take it.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, all three of your brothers really deserved
Speaker 1: this not real talk um, because teaching a culture or
Speaker 1: teaching people high financial freedom to know that it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if you started out, bro, you can come, you
Speaker 1: can invest. Like I've seen I forget what's this asian
Speaker 1: um realtor and he was like, yo, my first first
Speaker 1: He's like, my first ship I bought was eighteen thousand,
Speaker 1: so he said he brought it and then he lived
Speaker 1: in it, and then he rented the other two units.
Speaker 1: And it's like everyone think you gotta have eight hundred
Speaker 1: thousand or whatever. Like it's just like and then when
Speaker 1: I've seen that, I was like, all right, cool, there's
Speaker 1: no people. And then it's y'all guys right, and it's like,
Speaker 1: yeall of us, it smells like us, you look like us,
Speaker 1: y'all talk like us, and y'all fucking financial gurus. Like
Speaker 1: I want to salute y'all, I'm want to praise y'all.
Speaker 1: I want to say that this is the first time
Speaker 1: I've ever seen this, I've ever seen people talking. What's
Speaker 1: the other dude, Tony Roberts relate to this guy not
Speaker 1: going to like the closest dam I got hit bro,
Speaker 1: my mistake, and he's hit me back like but you know,
Speaker 1: you know, closest thing that came was like an envy
Speaker 1: and yeah, was like, okay, I love the fact that
Speaker 1: season always you know, I was looking the same. But
Speaker 1: what you guys are doing, especially with the crypto, we
Speaker 1: don't speaking about the crypto yet. Crypto? What's the crypto?
Speaker 1: Not he talking about citation? What's what's the ship? What's
Speaker 1: the ship? Um? What's the ship that we um? Interior?
Speaker 1: Any working out for me on any week? I'm looking
Speaker 1: like what stop looking stot. I gotta let it go
Speaker 1: crazy crazy, be like the only it's only fucking past
Speaker 1: word cold. I know, don't forget that. It is great,
Speaker 1: that's the pastor, y know, but but stop working out
Speaker 1: for me. It's guy's not working out for anybody right now,
Speaker 1: relying let's term, He's just going through it like my
Speaker 1: theory is going down. I remember when he first got something.
Speaker 1: I called him, I said, dude, they got access to
Speaker 1: my account and then he goes what he yeah that
Speaker 1: somebody rob you the theory that the market was changing
Speaker 1: he thought here because how about making money? But by
Speaker 1: the way, I said it way dumber and I just
Speaker 1: said it and he was like, the only people that's
Speaker 1: making money right now crypto. The people that's trading crypto,
Speaker 1: you understand me. So as its fluction aint going up
Speaker 1: and down, they buying out and they settling, they buying,
Speaker 1: they selling, right. So even when you talk about the
Speaker 1: SBF thing, that's what he's doing. He was an arbitarge trader, right,
Speaker 1: f TX but what's his name's Sam banked me free.
Speaker 1: So that's why I say FBF right, because I've been
Speaker 1: seeing the SBF more than anything. And when you talk
Speaker 1: about the media where they've been portraying him right, because
Speaker 1: he's given so much money to media and so much
Speaker 1: money to these political parties, many they praising them almost
Speaker 1: why they're talking about his situation like it's just a
Speaker 1: down the fact that he lost billions of dollars and
Speaker 1: the people have lost hundred hundreds of millions he was
Speaker 1: worth We don't even get the opportunity to make who
Speaker 1: was in the state. Yeah, yeah, but he's not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a cryptograg exchange. But with that is that it
Speaker 1: was centralized exchange at the stadium. The arena area was called.
Speaker 1: He got talking about the cheap then a contract for
Speaker 1: American Airlines arena. That's the reason why it changed. He's
Speaker 1: the person that owns f who got the cryptoa that's
Speaker 1: crypto dot com. That's but what do you guys think
Speaker 1: happened in that situation? What do you think that what
Speaker 1: they're saying, what they're saying is that and like I said,
Speaker 1: it's alleged, but they're saying that pretty much. He was
Speaker 1: using money from from investors to fund other projects. What
Speaker 1: happened was that some pyramids style, that's what they say.
Speaker 1: You're in the space, so you know, you know finance,
Speaker 1: So a report was published that was unfavorable to uh
Speaker 1: F t X that that they have token. So Finance
Speaker 1: had a lot of their coins. Finance pulled their money out.
Speaker 1: Once Finance pulled their money out and made all the
Speaker 1: investors scared, and now it was a rush on the bank.
Speaker 1: Now a lot of people started to pull their money out.
Speaker 1: They didn't have enough money to pay back every single
Speaker 1: person I wanted to put their money out, and the
Speaker 1: collapse it over there. It's like within within one day,
Speaker 1: they wanted five billion back five billions, right, it's like,
Speaker 1: but here's the illest part. Right, So Binance, Right, the
Speaker 1: CEO of Binances like, we might you know what, we'll
Speaker 1: help you out. We'll buy your exchange. Before we buy
Speaker 1: the exchange, we need to see the paperwork on your finances.
Speaker 1: So when they look at the finances, they're looking at
Speaker 1: it like, yo, this is this This ain't really like
Speaker 1: they don't really have no legit business. So they pulled
Speaker 1: out of the deal. Now like on top of one
Speaker 1: of the five billion they've seen that buiance, which could
Speaker 1: have rescued him, saying now we're not doing this. They
Speaker 1: don't even have legit paperwork. You got a guy who
Speaker 1: goes from twenty nine billion net worth, right what they're
Speaker 1: saying to like nine hundred thousand within forty eight hours.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, he said it not not a hundred million.
Speaker 1: He was still worth a hundred hundred not even still
Speaker 1: he was still worth eight hundred He lost about billion
Speaker 1: dollars that's how much. I thought. It was just eight
Speaker 1: billion and he lost, which they said he was worth billion,
Speaker 1: and when a day later he was worth eight hundred million.
Speaker 1: That he lost. But what about people's money lost to
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is involved in that. But one of the
Speaker 1: biggest keys on that though, is that everything that happened
Speaker 1: with his change is like centralized issues still is when
Speaker 1: one person actually owns the pot and controls the pot.
Speaker 1: It wasn't crypto that failed. It was the exchange, the banks,
Speaker 1: the investments, the over leveraging, all the standard stuff that
Speaker 1: happens with regular banks. It's just brought into the crypto space, right,
Speaker 1: So most people were thinking like, oh, there's a crypto
Speaker 1: that failed. No, it was Sam Bankman Fried. It was
Speaker 1: the regular white man and naked balls of institutions of
Speaker 1: banks over leveraging trusting him, and that's what failed, and
Speaker 1: people lost their money the same way like any other
Speaker 1: Ponzi scheme with a bank. So now everybody's saying that
Speaker 1: if you are on crypto, don't have it on in exchange, right,
Speaker 1: because if something happens to that exchange, they can't pay
Speaker 1: you out, right. So that's why I think won't pay out. Right.
Speaker 1: There's some terms in the agreement, but not specifically, they
Speaker 1: won't pay you out, you understand me, and increments if
Speaker 1: you want to pull out if they don't have it.
Speaker 1: But what they're saying is they said that they have
Speaker 1: an asset per asset, so if they say they got
Speaker 1: one big coin, they actually have a big coin. So therefore,
Speaker 1: if everybody wants to take it out, then everybody can.
Speaker 1: That's a difference. But if you get crypto and you
Speaker 1: hold it in your own what they call a cold wallet,
Speaker 1: then it don't matter what happens to the exchange you got,
Speaker 1: and that was the whole point of cryptocurrency, to not
Speaker 1: have it under centralized authority. Well, one person has control,
Speaker 1: or something happens to that institution, the money goes down
Speaker 1: and you lose favor. No, it's saying that you got
Speaker 1: your money, put it in your wallet, so no matter
Speaker 1: what happens, you're good. That's the whole point a lot
Speaker 1: of people, whether it's the crypto or the n f T.
Speaker 1: That goes back to education. If you don't educate yourself,
Speaker 1: you're ignorantly going into another asset class where you're gonna
Speaker 1: fail the same way you did the previously one. Right,
Speaker 1: So we have to get educated on every single thing
Speaker 1: that happens because it could be beneficial tools. We could
Speaker 1: use it for a tool. But if we don't get
Speaker 1: educated and we're ignorant, then we're left up to the
Speaker 1: people who are educated and hoping that they don't play
Speaker 1: a scheme on it like they always. The part about
Speaker 1: the the decentralization is that where's the regulation, right? So
Speaker 1: like if I look for a balance sheet that you
Speaker 1: can't provide it for me, Like I don't have to
Speaker 1: provide you with that. That's part of it. Let's let's
Speaker 1: talk about the average person in the hood. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of dollars, wants to leave the hood, doesn't
Speaker 1: know how to invest. It's crypto something. I'm going to
Speaker 1: educate yourself first. The first thing you should invest in
Speaker 1: your mind. That's the greatest as. But let's suppose I'm
Speaker 1: People say that all the time, like if I got
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars, what should I do? I'm trying to
Speaker 1: flip a thousand? All so he not get a a ball,
Speaker 1: don't get, don't get. Don't for not getting not getting,
Speaker 1: don't get. Here's the thing it's important to have. Let's
Speaker 1: talk to the guy who's wanting. I'm gonna talk to them.
Speaker 1: It's important to have realistic expectations because when you have
Speaker 1: false expectations, that's when things go go left. You think
Speaker 1: you've got a thousand dollars, You're gonna make a million
Speaker 1: dollars tomorrow. That's you know what I'm saying, Like, you're gonna,
Speaker 1: you're gonna, you're gonna do things. That's that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a So what I always tell people, it's like right
Speaker 1: now we are on an invest in wave. Right now.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be an investor, but investing goes hand
Speaker 1: in hand with making money. That's probably gotta talk about business.
Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about business even more than investing
Speaker 1: because it's like if you don't have money to invest,
Speaker 1: then you can't invest. So it's like for us, like
Speaker 1: we started a cash flowing positive business. Startup business will
Speaker 1: low overhead, that has ability to scale that you can
Speaker 1: actually produce revenue within twelve to eighteen months passanto, Yes,
Speaker 1: that cleans us. It's keep your ninety and so before
Speaker 1: before before you invest in another business, why don't you
Speaker 1: invest in your own business? The business you're talking about,
Speaker 1: is it the trucking business? Any business? Like we started
Speaker 1: we started this business of a podcast business. That was
Speaker 1: the business that we started. So that's what works for us.
Speaker 1: But what's your business is it? Is it gonna be merch,
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be selling products? Is like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Figure that out. That's what we got
Speaker 1: to figure out before before you invest in any other business,
Speaker 1: invest in your own business. The thousand dollars, what do
Speaker 1: you what's that recommendation for the thousand dollar I can
Speaker 1: only tell you got a lot of money today. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of the money. We started. We started earning
Speaker 1: Alicia with dollars, not even like like so it's like
Speaker 1: my brother. It depends, it depends on it depends on
Speaker 1: how you getting me smarter as the minute go smary
Speaker 1: time he passed me. So, here's the few businesses that
Speaker 1: you can start with with a thousand dollars, right. You
Speaker 1: can start a podcast, which we started a podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: not just speaking from you know. We actually started a
Speaker 1: podcast and now we're growing from the media company. We
Speaker 1: ain't start with any money. We started with iPhones and
Speaker 1: were starting with shotgun mics that we had somebody else
Speaker 1: that lent us the microphones. That's not that's not hard
Speaker 1: to do. You put the you put the content on
Speaker 1: social media, you produce it, you put it on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Platforms are there, they're free to saw that you can
Speaker 1: start a merged company with no money. We talked about before,
Speaker 1: how you have um the man print that company that
Speaker 1: we print company that is free where you actually somebody
Speaker 1: orders a T shirt, you give them a design. Now
Speaker 1: when they order it, then they printed up and they
Speaker 1: shipped it for you. They take a lot of the margin,
Speaker 1: but it's not cost you any money. Now once you
Speaker 1: get enough money, now you can go directly to the
Speaker 1: manufacturing first. It's just not having overhead from the beginning exactly.
Speaker 1: We don't We don't take on any inventory, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We don't take on any return like
Speaker 1: they do. All that all we did was create the design.
Speaker 1: We created the community that wanted the design, and they
Speaker 1: ship it out force. And it's learning skill sets that
Speaker 1: become businesses. Like yeah, I said these, this is my
Speaker 1: Crown Society business. So we got these, We got the hats,
Speaker 1: we got clothing, you know, I mean, we got a
Speaker 1: bunch of different things that we got the health products. Right,
Speaker 1: I do coaching, so it's like everything that I do,
Speaker 1: I teach. Right, this is a family business, one that
Speaker 1: I hired my whole family right here. This is the
Speaker 1: gold water you ever heard of claudio silver, So this
Speaker 1: is claudial gold. Yes. So we're born with zero pointed
Speaker 1: zero cent goal within our body. So we're born with
Speaker 1: all these different minerals within our body. We have gold
Speaker 1: within our body. I've been trying to tell you that
Speaker 1: our body. Yeah, we do. But when you increase certain
Speaker 1: minerals within the body to have effects, right, mamnesium zing
Speaker 1: all these different things, same thing with silver and gold.
Speaker 1: Gold is a super conductive electricity. It was the ancient
Speaker 1: Egyptians that used to utilize it back in the day.
Speaker 1: They believed it was the elixir of immortality. So they
Speaker 1: believe that because it's the only the men that doesn't rest,
Speaker 1: that if you continue to drink it, then you won't
Speaker 1: rest essentially. So, but they used to take it in
Speaker 1: the power. Yeah, you're drinking gold, so it's in smart Yeah.
Speaker 1: So historically it's been known to be good for anti inflammation, ending.
Speaker 1: Some people report having like super lucid dreams because you
Speaker 1: got all this electrical activity in the mind. So there's
Speaker 1: multiple benefits. We got that, we got smart mass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got new tropics. That one is like that's a
Speaker 1: vitamin C moss, you understand me. So we need that
Speaker 1: during different seasonal cycles really all the time. So it
Speaker 1: has sea moss in there, it has vitamin C in there. Um.
Speaker 1: That one also has a few other different ones. We
Speaker 1: just named it moss because it has that's the base
Speaker 1: of it. But it's like we got sports mass when
Speaker 1: it has like quarter sceps because we got shrooms in there.
Speaker 1: So these are medicinal shrooms that we put in their
Speaker 1: same thing with smart that we got. The smart months
Speaker 1: has t think about it like them we got. We
Speaker 1: got the liquor curture. Now magic with the liquor courture
Speaker 1: go hand in hand with the health courtre though, because
Speaker 1: you wake up that's that's that's but we gotta that's
Speaker 1: another conversation. The mental health issues in the black community
Speaker 1: or brain health issues. You understand me. We over chemicalize
Speaker 1: and undermineralize. You're trying to get somebody in the hood
Speaker 1: to focus to learn. They can't. They can't focus more
Speaker 1: than eight seconds like a fish. So and there's the
Speaker 1: adderall shortage. But if you bring something like sports monks
Speaker 1: what we have, it's allowing you to sit there and focus.
Speaker 1: We go through different peace cycles throughout the day, so
Speaker 1: there are cycles where we can't focus cycles what we can't.
Speaker 1: But when we eat wrong and our gut health is
Speaker 1: bad and our body is bad, then we're losing that focus.
Speaker 1: We can't concentrate, so we can never get into that
Speaker 1: flow state. You understand me. And so when you're talking
Speaker 1: about black people doing business, you know wealth comes from health.
Speaker 1: You're talking about health, you're talking about being financially healthy
Speaker 1: when you're talking about wealth. So we first in our neighborhoods,
Speaker 1: we got food deserts where you don't have access to
Speaker 1: nutrient available food. Same thing why I called the financial desert,
Speaker 1: because you don't have access right to somebody who can
Speaker 1: give you financial education or give you financial advice. So
Speaker 1: we want to change anything, we have to start with
Speaker 1: the diets of our people, the way we eat what
Speaker 1: we in take, and then look at the food. Doesn't
Speaker 1: look at pacifically the type of restaurants in our neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: You got the Jack in the Boxes, you got the Windy's,
Speaker 1: you got the murder Donalds, all of these different ones.
Speaker 1: They're there to kill us. McDonald look crazy me, right,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying there's a and that, and it's
Speaker 1: a desert and that kills us. So the spur count
Speaker 1: is decreasing you. It's seriously because during COVID nineteen they
Speaker 1: said that we had the highest predisposition right to the
Speaker 1: higher rates of illnesses. But nobody addressed that fact at all.
Speaker 1: Nobody is talking about the fact that we will talk
Speaker 1: about business and then we will put the same things
Speaker 1: that kill us in our neighborhoods in the name of capitalism.
Speaker 1: So that's why I talk about social entrepreneurship and social good.
Speaker 1: If we're going to do it, do it like my
Speaker 1: brother in the locks, you understand me to where he's
Speaker 1: putting something stouse pete, where he's putting up a juice
Speaker 1: bar in his neighborhood. That's a good I don't really
Speaker 1: care about. If you just do business, you have to
Speaker 1: do good business, and business that is good for us.
Speaker 1: So our people suffer from a lack of being able
Speaker 1: to focus right. Entertainment is a fight between entertainment and education,
Speaker 1: and this is why we make an entertainment so that
Speaker 1: is educational entertaining so we can actually get your attention.
Speaker 1: The greatest fight right now is for black people's attention.
Speaker 1: Black people's attention is worth one point six trillion dollars.
Speaker 1: That's why you understand me. So we can get your
Speaker 1: attention to products that will actually help you. That's healthy
Speaker 1: for you, that it gets you thinking about vision, long
Speaker 1: term thinking, business education and develop an these skills. Black people,
Speaker 1: smart moss, smart masses. Black people's out of raw black people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I know how my white people get down. White
Speaker 1: people don't take it to take. But before I think skill,
Speaker 1: since you asked about that, and if you asked about
Speaker 1: that thousand dollars, I want to I want to finish
Speaker 1: that because I don't get a chance to finish it,
Speaker 1: I said, I said clothing. I said, uh, media with podcasts,
Speaker 1: uh vending machine talk about it episode. Absolutely absolutely, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Use vendom machines. So like you think
Speaker 1: about it, like you put it in places like obviously
Speaker 1: we went back to our old high school, right and
Speaker 1: we looked at it. We're like, there's no vendom machines here.
Speaker 1: This is an opportune place right now. We ain't putting
Speaker 1: in high school. Not not in high school, but you
Speaker 1: could do that college college. Yeah, they haven't sex, but
Speaker 1: it might be contal if we put in hig school.
Speaker 1: But Kyle, just that's definitely control perfect. Places like in
Speaker 1: l A, like they put marijuana inside the vendom machines,
Speaker 1: but most people they use the venom machines, but they
Speaker 1: don't look it as a business opportunity. We looked at
Speaker 1: it like, Yo, there's no venom machines in the high school.
Speaker 1: These kids that are transporting every day, I know they're
Speaker 1: not eating breakfast. We got healthy oppotions that we can
Speaker 1: put inside these venom machines. On top of it, we
Speaker 1: can put water inside the other venoties. So we're looking
Speaker 1: at like this is a business opportunity. Not only are
Speaker 1: we helping our community, but we're helping the economy inside
Speaker 1: of the school. Right, instead of having big sales, instead
Speaker 1: of having fundraises, we can actually help them create their
Speaker 1: own economy. And on top of it, we can help
Speaker 1: the senior class by donating the proceeds from what they're
Speaker 1: already putting in. So it's it's self efficient economy. Not
Speaker 1: only are we doing that, but we're like, yeah, look,
Speaker 1: let's it employ some of the people who are in
Speaker 1: the school. Right, So we hired the seniors that are
Speaker 1: in the school to now run the machines and have
Speaker 1: them as part of the business. We got our young
Speaker 1: boy here, I do like, who's running that business? And
Speaker 1: we think of it like, oh, it's Venom schine that
Speaker 1: made no money. But like, yo, our Vendom machines are
Speaker 1: jeering thirty a month right just on an ecosystem, like oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop there, I'm gonna get a beverage. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get something need before I go to class. It's
Speaker 1: self sufficient. And so you think about thirty. You tell
Speaker 1: me a business that's thirty dring thirty for eighteen year
Speaker 1: old right now with a thousand dollar investment. Right after
Speaker 1: you pay that thousand dollars, after the first two months,
Speaker 1: you've already got return on your investment. Not everything is
Speaker 1: just profit. You see what I'm saying. And it's something
Speaker 1: that's so simple because people use it all the time.
Speaker 1: But we're starting to see it is like people taking
Speaker 1: that episode in that information and they're putting it in
Speaker 1: college campuses. But we've seen people in the entertainment industry like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that in my studio because that's what
Speaker 1: what people do when they come to the studio. They smoke.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be hungry, right, they put on college campuses,
Speaker 1: they're gonna need condom. We've seen a Vendom machine that
Speaker 1: had champagne inside, Spade inside in l a, right, and
Speaker 1: so you think about the bottle and the up charge,
Speaker 1: and the thing about the Vendom machine is that you
Speaker 1: get to set the price right and so right, so
Speaker 1: we know the margins and so we're gonna make sure
Speaker 1: that it's profitable, that we make money, but we're also
Speaker 1: going to service our community as well. And so these
Speaker 1: the type of businesses that when people we pass them
Speaker 1: every day, we never think that this is money. It's
Speaker 1: like what you said with the truck. And we live
Speaker 1: in New York City from New York, right, we see
Speaker 1: trucks passing us every day. We're not thinking like, Yo,
Speaker 1: that's a business that's passing us. That's actually somebody's business
Speaker 1: that's going to a place. I've a documentary on Netflix
Speaker 1: where John Gardi and them actually looked at a truck
Speaker 1: that drove through Manhattan that didn't have they signed on them,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, they were like, who has
Speaker 1: the balls to drive to the city without having our son?
Speaker 1: And that's a fact, And it's like one of these
Speaker 1: things you never think about. So it's like you grew up.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen anybody take money out of vendom
Speaker 1: machine before? Yeah? Have you know? I've never seen it before.
Speaker 1: And the reason, the reason being is because they come
Speaker 1: at odd hours, two o'clock in the morning. One because
Speaker 1: they don't want you to think it's a business. You
Speaker 1: never growing up. I've seen vendom machines my whole entire life.
Speaker 1: I never looked at it as a business opportunity. I
Speaker 1: that it has an opportunity to spend a dollar and
Speaker 1: a dollar because vendor machines cents. You twist this ship
Speaker 1: and a bubble gum because you do that long enough.
Speaker 1: That's like I have to say, once you once you
Speaker 1: change your mindset, everything becomes an opportunity. You see trucks
Speaker 1: drive every single day. Population never look at it like
Speaker 1: somebody owns that truck. They're just looking at like that's
Speaker 1: a truck driving by. You see you see it a
Speaker 1: house on the street that's messed up. You just thinking
Speaker 1: it's a band though. You're not looking at it like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a distressed property. I can buy that for undermarket value,
Speaker 1: fix it up, and then sell it for a fifty
Speaker 1: percent profit. But once you start to look at things
Speaker 1: and invest that everything around you becomes a business opportunity.
Speaker 1: Now owns who owns this restaurant, Who owns this liquor,
Speaker 1: who owns these mich who's making these microphones? How kind
Speaker 1: of manufact how can I actually I know that? How
Speaker 1: can I have a podcast studio? So now people can
Speaker 1: rent my studio and come in. Like, everything becomes the opportunity.
Speaker 1: So there's opportunities all around you. So talking about that
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, I can go on and on and on
Speaker 1: about businesses that you but first you gotta look at
Speaker 1: your mindset. Once again, it goes back to not being
Speaker 1: a victim. You gotta look at yourself as somebody that's
Speaker 1: in the world where it's opportunity all around you. Are
Speaker 1: you going to take advantage of the opportunity or are
Speaker 1: you going to complain? You can't do both. You have
Speaker 1: to pick a side. You will ate something side. What
Speaker 1: are you seeing? Are you seeing opportunity and be willing
Speaker 1: to fail miserably and pick it up and do it.
Speaker 1: Failures is the key. Most people. They they'll try something,
Speaker 1: they'll fail, and that's that's my set. So I even
Speaker 1: I even look at it as a failure. Right is
Speaker 1: the right back you can keeping Like one of the
Speaker 1: things I teach my status, One of the things I
Speaker 1: teach my students is how to write books. Right. You
Speaker 1: can't over saturate the market on books, right, even the
Speaker 1: books right, everybody. Even if you got a podcast, you
Speaker 1: can take that podcast and you can pay some my
Speaker 1: to edit that, chype it down, transcribe it, and turn
Speaker 1: it into a book for you can pay somebody on fiber,
Speaker 1: you understand me. You can go to untapped. I think,
Speaker 1: come on now, I can't believe people don't have some
Speaker 1: marketplace of skills. You develop any of one of those skills,
Speaker 1: you give yourself a job, you understand me. I talked
Speaker 1: to homey that got out of jail how to utilize
Speaker 1: then AI program to where he created art by just
Speaker 1: texting in props. Then he threw an art show and
Speaker 1: he sold a painting for a thousand dollars. Right, So
Speaker 1: it's like learning these skill sets mean that you have
Speaker 1: a skill set where you're never gonna go broke because
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be value in it. But that's why
Speaker 1: it goes back to education that the best thing you
Speaker 1: can do with a thousand dollars to educate yourself. That's
Speaker 1: who gives you a return for the rest of your life. Right,
Speaker 1: Like all these products I have, I designed every single
Speaker 1: as one of them. You understand me. I built the
Speaker 1: positions in the family, the books. I was the one
Speaker 1: who ordered it, who designed it, who put everything out
Speaker 1: in there. Every program that we have, we're showing you
Speaker 1: what can be done with little to no money. But
Speaker 1: you can't do nothing without knowledge, you understand me. That's
Speaker 1: why the quickest way to add value to yourself is
Speaker 1: to learn something new. The quickest way to add value
Speaker 1: to somebody else is to teach them something they didn't know.
Speaker 1: And the thing is too not to cut you up,
Speaker 1: but the thing about it, it's like you said, failure.
Speaker 1: You know what changed my life, bro when I realized
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna die one day. And at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it doesn't really matter with someone because
Speaker 1: it's like, we get hung up on public perception. What
Speaker 1: people are gonna think about us. You know, if it
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, I'm gonna be embarrassed in the grand
Speaker 1: scheme of things, Right, what does that really matter? Right?
Speaker 1: And it's like ultimately you're gonna die. So you're either
Speaker 1: gonna die with regret, You're gonna die with failure, or
Speaker 1: you're gonna die with accomplishment. So it's like I could
Speaker 1: take having failure on my on my jacket, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to have regret. So that was like even
Speaker 1: like what we do now, Like I had the vision
Speaker 1: of what we're doing now in and it took me
Speaker 1: seven years to actually actually do it because I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, self doubt and people are gonna think of
Speaker 1: her and way did it die? And then when I
Speaker 1: realized that people are gonna think something about you anyway regardless.
Speaker 1: And it's like people will go to ten different job
Speaker 1: trainings and job opportunities are and try to get all
Speaker 1: of these positions and they're at a fifteen different job interviews.
Speaker 1: They might get one. They never look at it like
Speaker 1: I failed fifteen times. But you start a business one
Speaker 1: time it doesn't work out and you say this is
Speaker 1: not for me? What if? What if? What if you
Speaker 1: want to one job on interview you didn't get high
Speaker 1: and you say this isn't for me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like just the mindset. So I feel
Speaker 1: like when you when you understand that ultimately, no matter
Speaker 1: what you do in this world, it's not going to
Speaker 1: be the end of it. Like know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Even if you fail, you've always come back. Their businesses
Speaker 1: invested in it. It failed, Yeah, for sure, we started
Speaker 1: the music acts. It's a learning it's a learning experience.
Speaker 1: I kind of like failure. You understand me. I don't
Speaker 1: like the idea of perfection. Even when people try to
Speaker 1: cash you as a leader, they want to hold up
Speaker 1: this image of perfection. So if they find any flaws,
Speaker 1: they feel like they're exposed. Somebody wrote that in the
Speaker 1: comment say one day, nineteen Keys, you're gonna be exposed.
Speaker 1: I said, I hope so, because the more that I'm
Speaker 1: exposed to the world, the more I grow. Right, the
Speaker 1: more I'm exposed to myself, the more that I grow
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of my own flaws and failures. That's
Speaker 1: where I become a man that by learning myself and
Speaker 1: developing myself in those areas. Society has become so hypocritical
Speaker 1: that we will demonize somebody for the same flaws that
Speaker 1: we have right in public. So I've gotten to this
Speaker 1: part where, you know, seeing somebody started business. The results
Speaker 1: is cool, like seeing the flying is the watches, all
Speaker 1: of that. But what I look at is the process
Speaker 1: in between. So are you telling me that you went
Speaker 1: through all of them nights of stress, You went through
Speaker 1: those different times of failure, You went through that lack
Speaker 1: and that sacrifice and that fast and and you still
Speaker 1: made it through, and you still kept pushing to higher
Speaker 1: levels if you haven't settled yet. I look at a
Speaker 1: person and I see them going through the darkness to
Speaker 1: bring it to light. I don't look at the light
Speaker 1: and saying that, oh I want that. Most people want
Speaker 1: the results, but they don't want the process, so there
Speaker 1: they never achieve it. This just smell way better. Let's
Speaker 1: come on, man, come on. This doesn't do the same
Speaker 1: ship as sage. Yeah, it does the same thing. It
Speaker 1: wasn't confidence. It's slightly reasons you got this. You never
Speaker 1: claimed this defense. It's right now, come on, yeah, don't
Speaker 1: play what is this call? What is this called? This
Speaker 1: just smells good? Sage saves be having the smell different.
Speaker 1: That's why that's why I don't be bringing sage everywhere. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what do you call this? Said? The energy? You said?
Speaker 1: I mean I know Cubans use it. I can't say
Speaker 1: I'm sure this is It smells like coke. I just
Speaker 1: wrote about coconut. What I mean by that? I just
Speaker 1: they thought I was smoking weed, but I was lying. Polysizal, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this just smell good. I ain't gonna lie and looks safe.
Speaker 1: Saf saves don't smell good. But I could tell SAYE
Speaker 1: bring the devils from. Polysanto is a tree that's native
Speaker 1: to Peru, Ecuador, and other South American countries. It grows
Speaker 1: in tropical drive forces. It produces a fragrant resident. In Spanish,
Speaker 1: polysanto means holywood. So that's holywood you're smoking over there, right, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not smoking. I'm with you, everybody. But for thousands
Speaker 1: of years, the wood, the resident, the oil has been
Speaker 1: used for medicinal purposes. Has been mainly used to treat
Speaker 1: pain and stress, but it's also used to clear negative
Speaker 1: energy understanding like key, So do y'all believe they use
Speaker 1: different things? Y'all believe in Dr Sabe? You know what's
Speaker 1: so crazy about Dr Saby? So you know, doctor take
Speaker 1: a shot for no reason. I feel like you want
Speaker 1: to get You know, a lot of people heard about
Speaker 1: Dr Saby with Nipsey Hustle rest in Piece of nipp
Speaker 1: And I remember when left I heard even left out.
Speaker 1: I was like in the two thousand, so my mom
Speaker 1: and like mid nineties, my mom had some health issues.
Speaker 1: She was, you know, kind of overweight whatever, and she
Speaker 1: went to Dr Saby in like in Brooklyn. He had
Speaker 1: he had a shop in Brooklyn, Um and she was
Speaker 1: and she lost thirty pounds in one month and transformed
Speaker 1: the whole life. She's been vegetarian ever since. So that's
Speaker 1: the first time I heard about Dr Saby was in
Speaker 1: the nineties when my mom went to her to him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had, And so it's like and then ever since then,
Speaker 1: I had, like one of my friends is he's in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair. He went he went to the to the
Speaker 1: compound um and Coca was the Nick right now with Nick,
Speaker 1: it's nothing so a lot, you know, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of controversy, but I know from first hand experience, because
Speaker 1: like I said, my mom was like going to him.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, and I've seen I've seen I've
Speaker 1: seen the effects first as a little kid, how it
Speaker 1: changed her. And she never went back. She hasn't. She
Speaker 1: has to eat and meat in thirty years. Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that she has to eat me
Speaker 1: in thirty years and you eat me. I'm a pest catarian.
Speaker 1: Dr Sevey's my business partner on the gold Water Company.
Speaker 1: I got one of his stepsons. That's my business partner,
Speaker 1: you understand me. So his mother was the one who
Speaker 1: helped founded deal richa clinic that he had. It was
Speaker 1: it used to be right there where the Brooklyn Center is,
Speaker 1: where the net set. He used to add a clinic there.
Speaker 1: That's when he first, you know, made the claim of
Speaker 1: Karen Aid's right. Um, you eat me, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I eat I'm pest catarian. Sometimes I like some lamb.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes this year, because I've been working out on
Speaker 1: my job, I've been a little I've been throwing Dr
Speaker 1: Savin you know, he was in the Nation of Islam.
Speaker 1: He first learned about health science from the understand how
Speaker 1: to eat your live and it was also about one
Speaker 1: mill yea. And he said at the dinner table with him,
Speaker 1: you understand me, Sabe didn't notice. Yeah, that's where he
Speaker 1: first got his discipline from being a f y o
Speaker 1: ye yes. So you know I've talked to his wife
Speaker 1: about this his ex wife, of course, you understand me,
Speaker 1: and she was giving us the breakdown. But he even
Speaker 1: he tells you that you can go on YouTube and
Speaker 1: he'll give the breakdown. He said, Mohammed was the only
Speaker 1: person I've seen talking to black people in America about
Speaker 1: health and food. Right, And of course, my it don't
Speaker 1: get nowhere near enough credit for the impact that he's
Speaker 1: had on the entire globe. Right. If you remove the
Speaker 1: Mohammad from history, how many things do you remove from history?
Speaker 1: The whole entire world has to change. Hip hop is
Speaker 1: not hip hop, you understand me, doctor, He's not that
Speaker 1: the sevy. There's no black panthers, there's no malcommats, no
Speaker 1: public enemy. Right, there's so many like consciousness as we
Speaker 1: know it. There's no Harlem, you understand me, exactly. So
Speaker 1: you know, the lineage that he left behind was a lineage.
Speaker 1: And that's why that's like somebody I look up to.
Speaker 1: That's why I got it right here, because I look
Speaker 1: at what he did that was tangible. He had businesses, right,
Speaker 1: he had imported excellent, Yeah, he had his own plane.
Speaker 1: He had a fish import and export business directly from Peru. Right,
Speaker 1: he had trust, he had like a college institution set up.
Speaker 1: He had barber shops. He had a lot of rights
Speaker 1: to well, you know, imagine you've had a lot of
Speaker 1: chicks to North. Yeah, back then that was back there too.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm just saying. Man, this Mohammed had
Speaker 1: the third grade education and he took a knowledge that
Speaker 1: he was taught and he changed the world with it. Right. So,
Speaker 1: as you know, we look at many different men in
Speaker 1: history and we don't ever look at the route. But
Speaker 1: if you go to the route, what he was doing
Speaker 1: everything that we're doing. He talked about He had an
Speaker 1: economic blueprint, right. It was a full breakdown on how
Speaker 1: we can give like five to tens in a day
Speaker 1: and how we can create our own He talked about separation,
Speaker 1: He talked about do for self. So everything that I'm
Speaker 1: doing right now is based on the lineage of my ancestors,
Speaker 1: you understand me, And the goal is to stand on
Speaker 1: the side of them, will go further, and until we've
Speaker 1: reached that plateau that they've reached and we go further.
Speaker 1: We haven't done enough yet and we can't say that
Speaker 1: we have. Right. Marcus Garvey, he had multiple businesses. He
Speaker 1: started the Black Star line because there was a White
Speaker 1: Star line, right. He had stock certificates for all of
Speaker 1: the people and he had twenty five chapters around the world.
Speaker 1: Before social media, Frederick Douglas had his own media company.
Speaker 1: He had his own newspaper, the North Star, that would circulate.
Speaker 1: The most successful leaders of all time control of their
Speaker 1: own media. Right. So when you look at Malcolm X,
Speaker 1: you look at the underbullt like Mohammed, you look at
Speaker 1: Minister far Can you look at Frederick Douglass you look right,
Speaker 1: you look at Marcus Garvey, the final Call and before
Speaker 1: that it was Mohammed speaks Final cart. Back then the
Speaker 1: paper was right, That's what I'm saying. But paper wasn't
Speaker 1: in that because it was hand in hand and nothing
Speaker 1: controlling that media. It's key to leadership. They did no
Speaker 1: news unless they but but but come on, but the
Speaker 1: question that you asked to kind of you know, bring
Speaker 1: this full circa. Remember when I said about the watch
Speaker 1: having the movements, and that was the most important thing
Speaker 1: that financial literacy, financial intelligence, money and physical health care
Speaker 1: hand in hand. Your life has to be in line.
Speaker 1: So from your relationships to your your health all that's
Speaker 1: extremely important because it's hard to you know, have a
Speaker 1: financial you know, well being if out of shape, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, if you if you just
Speaker 1: if you just focused on your health, you can't even
Speaker 1: focus on trying to invest. Like know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you're having trouble breathing, that's that's more important than anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So this is extremely important
Speaker 1: as far a what we eat is extremely important, working
Speaker 1: out is extremely important, to having healthy relationships is extremely important.
Speaker 1: And we talked about financing money, but it's three sixty
Speaker 1: All of that, all of that goes into play because
Speaker 1: just having one area and having all the other areas
Speaker 1: this functional, it's not gonna work. You gotta have a movement,
Speaker 1: just like a watch where everything is moving efficiently. It's
Speaker 1: how you do one thing is how you do everything.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, we literally watch you right like we
Speaker 1: we watched Noriega. We saw all that, but also we
Speaker 1: saw like yeo, I remember why I'm watching run eight miles.
Speaker 1: I'm on top of that. I'm watching him now. I
Speaker 1: got the balance exactly, I'm watching him as a husband.
Speaker 1: So like people discount that fact that they don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about that fat every time, I've seen you,
Speaker 1: I've seen your wife with you. You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like that, it comes to real ship, right, that's really
Speaker 1: with you. But it goes into that at that point,
Speaker 1: like Yo, it's a balance between everything hating people come
Speaker 1: to me and they judge me from what they know
Speaker 1: me from. People come to people like what what what?
Speaker 1: This ain't the melvine like I was saying, the age
Speaker 1: like like, but then also people remember you for moments
Speaker 1: in time like like I said, like I know it
Speaker 1: was twenty years ago, but it's like I still played
Speaker 1: a war report to this day because I remember what
Speaker 1: that meant to me at that moment in time, and
Speaker 1: that's beautiful, Like like I remember it was and I
Speaker 1: love that. But I just also want to live in
Speaker 1: this day. I think album that's what he keeps saying.
Speaker 1: Three keep said, no problem, but just love love ill matic.
Speaker 1: But I'm living. But I think there's a generation of
Speaker 1: people who weren't alive for that that war report. They
Speaker 1: weren't alive. They all they know you for is this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: listens incredible. There's people that look at me and say
Speaker 1: you rap exactly. The whole generation don't And horrid Wood
Speaker 1: We was like, literally, that's nothing. We got on these
Speaker 1: both Jackson's, we got on that A kid alive. That's
Speaker 1: weird these right now new with both Jackson play. They
Speaker 1: knew with Michael Jordan played, but that's what they researched that.
Speaker 1: But they get millions of dollars off of hip hop
Speaker 1: and they won't research hip hop. That's that's how they
Speaker 1: fucked up. When I told you that, I'm not gonna look.
Speaker 1: I remember you can some people some people some people.
Speaker 1: Some people research, they don't. It depends the whole day
Speaker 1: around A lot don't care a lot don't care hip
Speaker 1: hop everybody. You had to be a student of hip hop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you had like was a community it was. I
Speaker 1: used to tell people it was like like the Gothic
Speaker 1: kids in school, but you had to like it a
Speaker 1: cultural movement at that time. Think about it is like
Speaker 1: like I sit there and I hope I always look
Speaker 1: at these kids and they'd be like, you know, Jordan's
Speaker 1: you knows better, and I'm looking at him, like how
Speaker 1: do you know? Jordan's telling me jay Z is not
Speaker 1: but j is not. We didn't we didn't. We didn't
Speaker 1: research music like you didn't you never listen to John
Speaker 1: Coltrane kind of did listen to you want to listen
Speaker 1: to John Coltrane. But he going, that's why why are
Speaker 1: you saying that? But why are you saying that that
Speaker 1: person It's always going to be the youth is going
Speaker 1: to be dominated on what's happening right now in this
Speaker 1: moment in time, because even me, why they were in
Speaker 1: Jordan's and it's not this moment of time. But let men,
Speaker 1: I never I never listened to plenty different reasons you
Speaker 1: never did. I never listened to. That's before my error.
Speaker 1: My error was like NAS and then Big and then Jay.
Speaker 1: I mean if yours NAS, then it would be. But
Speaker 1: it comes from he knows two. It's like it goes
Speaker 1: into I mean que Tip produces. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When they when they had their run, he told me
Speaker 1: like he like it's crazy because like he's not that far,
Speaker 1: like he's two years young to me. But his hip
Speaker 1: hop starts a little different for me. Like I'm born
Speaker 1: in the South Bronx. I'm listening to k Arrest his
Speaker 1: I'm listening to trapical Quests, I'm listening to Public and
Speaker 1: it starts with like the Golden arrow like its nas
Speaker 1: and it is big and the golden little question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that's that I can see how he says that
Speaker 1: you find your love to see. It's that help me
Speaker 1: find my way. It's not like can I kick it
Speaker 1: trapical quests, it's a different one. It's like this is
Speaker 1: good hip hop. It's like it's fight, but she comes generational.
Speaker 1: It's like three. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1: You can't appreciate it. He fight, you appreciate that's the tales.
Speaker 1: And you know, I told I had an argument with
Speaker 1: my barber the other day. He's telling me about Aggie
Speaker 1: and Jane whatever. We're having an argument and I said,
Speaker 1: hold up, how old are you? And his age was
Speaker 1: five years younger appreciation you just stand Now, that's why
Speaker 1: this is just connected. Here's why, here's why we are
Speaker 1: connecting it. Right. So when we did Master Square Garden, right,
Speaker 1: we put on the Minx, and it wasn't because we
Speaker 1: just wanted to put on Minx. We wanted to pay
Speaker 1: homage to books, and we came out like just hate
Speaker 1: me now. So even if they didn't know hate me now,
Speaker 1: they don't know it now, just like I did with
Speaker 1: you like, I'm not, yo, bro, I gotta with these
Speaker 1: ange these rights part right. I remember I taped that
Speaker 1: when it was you. It was ex Cannabis freestyle, and
Speaker 1: I'm recording that and I'm listening to it every day.
Speaker 1: Everybody I would superfection. That was faa tell you. Somebody
Speaker 1: I don't know showed up. The pun was supposed to
Speaker 1: meet me, So I was supposed to be me and
Speaker 1: Punt because I thought Cannabis and DMX was going at us.
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be Yeah, that's that's what I
Speaker 1: didn't Crazy showed him so late. I had to go
Speaker 1: up though. That's crazy spent the whole album. He No,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let Punt up once I came up, so
Speaker 1: he came up. Eventually he came. He was there, he
Speaker 1: was downstairs. But by the time he's hitting me like this,
Speaker 1: this wasn't like you know, I'm spending my und man
Speaker 1: asked spending my mind. He can still call me like
Speaker 1: I had to wait to spit my whole ship. And
Speaker 1: if you look, if you listen to that freestyle, Cannabis
Speaker 1: and DMX is jumping me. Yeah, that's why Cloud is
Speaker 1: going crazy, Like yo, let me let me up and
Speaker 1: I just had to hold the crazy that was like
Speaker 1: a forty five minute album at Cannabis. I don't know
Speaker 1: where you get this fucking rumor that we sent them
Speaker 1: a fucking car service that didn't show up. You see this.
Speaker 1: No no, But even when you say that, though, when
Speaker 1: you look at it, two of the greatest like platforms
Speaker 1: that revitalize a lot of hip hop artists versus in
Speaker 1: his Drink Champs, you understand me so, like even you
Speaker 1: credit a platform to give yourself a new image in
Speaker 1: today's time and with a lot of artists, because when
Speaker 1: I first started listening to Drink Champs, when you was
Speaker 1: having all the artists come in, like it was allowed
Speaker 1: with me to re appreciate them in their stories, right,
Speaker 1: and I got invested into it. The same thing with versus.
Speaker 1: You got reinvested into the catalogs, you know, and then
Speaker 1: it reintroduced a completely new generation to this music in
Speaker 1: today's time, but without the context, right, because you appreciate
Speaker 1: you appreciate jay Z because of the context of who
Speaker 1: jay Z is today, not even just his catalog. So
Speaker 1: it's hard for somebody else to appreciate an artist the
Speaker 1: same way. If you didn't grow up in those moments
Speaker 1: that you feel that's connected to the music of who
Speaker 1: they are, Like Nipsey Hustle. Appreciating Nipsey Hustle at to
Speaker 1: his death and why he's living. It's two different things.
Speaker 1: And for the next generation they may only have his
Speaker 1: music to listen to. They won't be connected to the
Speaker 1: feeling of that time. That's why I said, like when
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen Cormega, I'm like, yo, damn, Like
Speaker 1: we started thinking like remember when Mega that Firm album,
Speaker 1: how we felt you got shot him on him? I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's great. I've seen Black Sheep on here. I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't these people don't even understand, like what that recommended?
Speaker 1: Like nine, Like that's why I'm so sorry and I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry to like to take your compliment that you
Speaker 1: gave me and then put it back on y'all. Like
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I like, like I look at
Speaker 1: what we're doing and I say, this is so beautiful
Speaker 1: because we're like helping people with plenished their careers. But
Speaker 1: what y'all doing something totally that for puff puff Flowers?
Speaker 1: Stop me give me what y'all doing to say you're Listen,
Speaker 1: y'all could be next to Nori. You can live next
Speaker 1: to Norm, right next to Paul. You're gonna live next
Speaker 1: to such a such And you don't got to be
Speaker 1: an entertainment fact. You don't gotta be ball player, you
Speaker 1: don't gotta be none of that. Maybe you're selling bud,
Speaker 1: maybe whatever. But y'all could be next to these same
Speaker 1: people in the same regard, with the same respect. That's
Speaker 1: why I tell you your job is way more than
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I appreciate you. They say rappers the most
Speaker 1: dangerous job of being honest. Being financial advisors might be
Speaker 1: more because because even with rappers, even with rappers, there's
Speaker 1: not people who's gonna tell us invest into this, like
Speaker 1: invest into the burger spot over there and do over there.
Speaker 1: But but y'all are doing that. So I just want
Speaker 1: you all to be careful that for Puff told us
Speaker 1: so he's at puffs house and he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: he was like, we're telling him, like you're the inspiration.
Speaker 1: Like he was like, na, y'all the tipping point, like
Speaker 1: y'all the first people in history. I was trying to
Speaker 1: say this force people to actually show get money, get fly,
Speaker 1: and I have to cool. I have to wrap and
Speaker 1: I have to dance, and y'all just getting money and
Speaker 1: y'all doing it through business and y'all showing other people.
Speaker 1: He's like y'all the tipping point, bro, Like y'all really
Speaker 1: changed the whole dynamic in this ship. So thank you
Speaker 1: for that, brother, everybody. I'm sorry to keep reiterating. This
Speaker 1: is because if I show a kid right now in
Speaker 1: the hood how to hold a gun, I might be
Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous dudes in the show him
Speaker 1: how to do this. But if I showed him never
Speaker 1: hold a I might be one of the most people
Speaker 1: because a funk about it. And that part is not cool,
Speaker 1: and that part is whack. I heard somebody say, if
Speaker 1: you're O G is telling you to go outside, then
Speaker 1: you're O G ain't your old G. Like, we have
Speaker 1: to spread the rhetoric the facts that being a drug
Speaker 1: deal or being on the block or doing that, that's
Speaker 1: not the only way. That's all we have. Back then
Speaker 1: we had athletes. What does big say if we have
Speaker 1: a jump shot or you had to jump shot, No,
Speaker 1: that's we passed. I think the key there. What you're
Speaker 1: saying here for a whole another of the y'all. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We waged past that now as well.
Speaker 1: It's like the O G. Courture is so lost because
Speaker 1: being it ain't no more gangsters in hip hop. That
Speaker 1: ain't because but even just the idea of a gangster.
Speaker 1: We took the worst parts of like the Italian mob curture. Right.
Speaker 1: We didn't take the parts about family right protection, right,
Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't take the code. We didn't. We
Speaker 1: took the worst parts of bullying each other and criminality
Speaker 1: against each other, not creating protected covenants of families in
Speaker 1: different orders and establishing that community. So today they will
Speaker 1: get Yeah, that's that's family and communion and standards and curture.
Speaker 1: We took the worst parts of everything that we see
Speaker 1: and then we glorify that. So O G or gangster
Speaker 1: got to be somebody that has the ability to protect
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, to employ the neighborhood, to be able to
Speaker 1: educate and teach. It's just the fact that we gotta
Speaker 1: backwards curture everything that's good for us. We glorify, I
Speaker 1: mean everything that's bad for us. We glorify everything that's
Speaker 1: good for us. You understand, when we look at it
Speaker 1: like his lane. Okay, but how do we do that? Then?
Speaker 1: How do we start? That's what we represent so like
Speaker 1: by you know, a man is his intellect. That's what
Speaker 1: makes a man really a man, not his physical prowess.
Speaker 1: Anybody can go in the jim work out, anybody can
Speaker 1: pull a trigger. But what makes the real man that's
Speaker 1: remembered as legends in time that we really look up
Speaker 1: to is the way they use their mind. Understand me
Speaker 1: and changing the narrative of the ones that's smart, you
Speaker 1: understand me are the ones that should be followed, right,
Speaker 1: not the ones that got issues and anger and they
Speaker 1: always want to fight everybody and kill and shoot their
Speaker 1: brother assists and they get strikes for doing some dumb
Speaker 1: ship that didn't matter, and it started off something that
Speaker 1: didn't matter my part, Like if they offered you the
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand or the jay Z me, and what
Speaker 1: would you take? What I'm taking five thousand? I mean,
Speaker 1: And so you got to look at the context as
Speaker 1: a person and what a person spend five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: to get next to jay Z because they want to
Speaker 1: leverage it so they can have a relationship with him
Speaker 1: to build off that. Now if he said there and
Speaker 1: he'd do an interview with me on high level conversations.
Speaker 1: That's more worth it than the five minute meeting. You
Speaker 1: understand me, I'm gonna leverage that way past five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. So I think the context in your strategy
Speaker 1: and how you're going to leverage it matters the most.
Speaker 1: Leverages everything. You understand me, So it can't always be
Speaker 1: simple as black and white and say that, Okay, do
Speaker 1: I have a strategy on how I'm utilize this connection
Speaker 1: and relationship or am I there to get inspiration during
Speaker 1: the five minute meeting? No, because in that case, I've
Speaker 1: already got a business plan where I can use a
Speaker 1: five let's say it's dinner. But if I got a
Speaker 1: business already and I can use a five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollar in fusion and investment into that business, and that's
Speaker 1: gonna take me further than talking with jay Z. You
Speaker 1: understand me. I'm gonna do that. Maybe flip that to
Speaker 1: five million and see if I can take five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars and get a dinner. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: what I take the dinner. Because this isn't theoretic, this
Speaker 1: is real life. When we met Steve Harvey and we
Speaker 1: spent time with him. We interviewed him, we talked to
Speaker 1: him or whatever, and that relationship is worth more than money.
Speaker 1: That sounds cliche, but that's real. So when we met him,
Speaker 1: he took a liking too. He's he said, he said yo,
Speaker 1: he said yo. I like, y'all we're gonna make a
Speaker 1: lot of money together. Shortly after we became business partners,
Speaker 1: we did an event called invest FST. We have fourteen
Speaker 1: thousand people in Atlanta. He just invited us to Abu Dhabi.
Speaker 1: We was in Abu Dhabi. Looks like we're gonna be
Speaker 1: doing stuff in the Middle East. So it's like that
Speaker 1: relationship is gonna be worth way more than five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. So it's like you're looking at short term
Speaker 1: as opposed looking at long term investing people like your
Speaker 1: life is worth more than five hundred thousand dollars. I
Speaker 1: can't put a price tag on your life. I can't
Speaker 1: put a price tag on the information, on the information
Speaker 1: and relationships that we could potentially do. Like what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: let's let's do real business. We don't need money right now. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: through the grace of God, we're not We're not hurting
Speaker 1: for money. So when you're not hurting for money, then
Speaker 1: you start to then you start to use your intelligence.
Speaker 1: The problem we're not having money is that you win
Speaker 1: survival mode. You've got to be very careful about people
Speaker 1: that's in survival mode because they'll do anything for a
Speaker 1: short liquor saying the lick. This is a long term
Speaker 1: This is long term wealth difference because what you're saying
Speaker 1: in our communities, we're so used to that. Like what
Speaker 1: you said, like, Yo, shout out to you for teaching
Speaker 1: the bronx. I'm watching survival mode right while I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get to the next base, which is that travel mode.
Speaker 1: Because when you get to thravel mode, then you see
Speaker 1: the world differently. Now you see everything as an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not taking the fire hunt. I'd rather take
Speaker 1: the meeting because it's going to lead to other opportunities.
Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at the meeting because Yo, wait, he
Speaker 1: said something that I could create a business offer. It's
Speaker 1: a different mindset, Like we got to go back to that.
Speaker 1: Like the mindset is the key right when we when
Speaker 1: we make that shift from survival to salve your life
Speaker 1: changes because now you see the passway to freedom right
Speaker 1: and everybody has a different freedom, level of freedom special.
Speaker 1: But when you see in that that travel, it's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is obtainable. I have access to my time. Once
Speaker 1: I have access to my time, now I'm free to think.
Speaker 1: Once you're free to think, it opens up the door
Speaker 1: for you. Right while you're in that non of five
Speaker 1: when you survive them, like and I'll come from that right,
Speaker 1: Like I'm teaching every day, Like I'm watching nine to
Speaker 1: three every day, I'm doing the same thing. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm working, and then I start coaching. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: working from seven o'clock to seven o'clock. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to get dinner and make sure my kids are good,
Speaker 1: my wife and I and I'm gonna do the same
Speaker 1: thing the next day. I don't have time to think
Speaker 1: or create anything else. I don't have time to thrive, right,
Speaker 1: But as soon as that time frees up, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, I got space. Now I got opportunity. My
Speaker 1: mind can now expand and now I can create opportunities
Speaker 1: for myself or I can see ways to create opportunities
Speaker 1: which we we don't see in our community. Most people
Speaker 1: are just trying to survive on the day to day
Speaker 1: like y'all gonna make it, you know, tomam wa do
Speaker 1: the next thing. I can't wait for Friday? How many
Speaker 1: people are like yo, I can't wait for Friday. Every
Speaker 1: day is Friday? For every day is fri I think
Speaker 1: we all just said the same things as far as
Speaker 1: just how to leverage that. What is your strategy? If
Speaker 1: as long as you're thinking in that manner, I think
Speaker 1: you're thinking in the right way. They understand me, and
Speaker 1: therefore everything you do in life is strategic to your
Speaker 1: means and your vision. Right. Like for me, I can't
Speaker 1: do anything unless I have a clear vision for it, right,
Speaker 1: And some people don't have a clear vision. Like he said,
Speaker 1: if you're thinking the survival mode, your vision only goes
Speaker 1: past your paycheck. Understand me, I'm thinking of next week
Speaker 1: or what I can do with that money. You don't
Speaker 1: actually play in the playground of your imagination, right, my hope.
Speaker 1: There's a thought experiment. If you tell the average person
Speaker 1: think of what you think is impossible, then I want
Speaker 1: you to imagine yourself doing it, right, so you start
Speaker 1: to stretch your limits. Right, it was something you were
Speaker 1: talking about uh with the billionaires, about thinking bigger, right, Like,
Speaker 1: sometimes we think based on what we can see instead
Speaker 1: of what we can envision. Right. The imagination is so powerful,
Speaker 1: the most powerful thing on the planet Earth, because you
Speaker 1: can literally imagine things that you may not have the
Speaker 1: resources for in your environment. But as long as you
Speaker 1: can imagine it, then you can conjure you can create it. Right.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's about imagining things having in a vision.
Speaker 1: All right, Now, what's my steps to get in there?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, I don't know how to do it,
Speaker 1: all right? First up, let me get the knowledge. Now
Speaker 1: that I have the knowledge, now let me write down
Speaker 1: the steps on what do I need to do? And
Speaker 1: I start knocking it out step by step. And anytime
Speaker 1: I get to a step I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do next, the next step is always learned what to do,
Speaker 1: then execute. So if you start to think in an
Speaker 1: execution manner, there is no blocks, right, It's educate yourself
Speaker 1: when you get to something you don't know, and then
Speaker 1: execute once you know, and then repeat that path forever. Right.
Speaker 1: So for me, I don't never have a point in
Speaker 1: life where it's like, Yo, you accomplished this, that in
Speaker 1: the third So what that wasn't the bigger vision? That
Speaker 1: was the steps to climb up to where I want
Speaker 1: to be. That was one of the things Tyler Perry
Speaker 1: tod us. It was like your dream big, dream more,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, how what how do you? How
Speaker 1: do you dream more? But that comes with exposure and
Speaker 1: you put yourself in positions inside rooms or it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: the things that you throw were impossible and now possible.
Speaker 1: It's in fact the thing Pop told us, like when
Speaker 1: you medicine. It's like, you'll tell me your while is
Speaker 1: dream right now? So I can show you. I can
Speaker 1: blow that ship out the water so you can create more.
Speaker 1: I want you all to see more. I want to
Speaker 1: show you how to do more. I want to show
Speaker 1: you that anything is achievable. Because he's seeing things at
Speaker 1: his level, right, Like a lot of people looking at
Speaker 1: us and like, yo, they're super successful. I love what
Speaker 1: they're doing. You know, they changed my life. He's at
Speaker 1: a different level. He's seeing things at this level. Right.
Speaker 1: We got to get to that point so we can
Speaker 1: see the barriers that he's kids because we're kicking down
Speaker 1: barriers here, right, And we didn't get to but he's
Speaker 1: seeing things at his level, but how many people are
Speaker 1: He's new to it? Like for as great as we
Speaker 1: think he is and were great as we think as
Speaker 1: Tyler is, and they're new to it. We're talking about
Speaker 1: when you talk about the Wall and family, we're talking
Speaker 1: about generations of just wealth. Right, we're talking about the
Speaker 1: one of the wealthiest families in the history of the country.
Speaker 1: Everybody here that looks like us is new, so they're
Speaker 1: still learning and they're facing barriers, right, and so like
Speaker 1: as we climb, it's like, all right, well, who gets
Speaker 1: to tell their story? Who gets to telling? Like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what are the things you're facing at this level? Because
Speaker 1: as we're trying to climb to it, we need to
Speaker 1: know so that when we get there, Oh, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a smoother process for us. That's the that's the key.
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, your kick and down doors, so that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be easier for us. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like that, that's what That's why I think this is
Speaker 1: the most unique time. Like when I say it's a
Speaker 1: financial evolution, it really is. And uh, because it really
Speaker 1: is like being financially inclined. It's something that's never been
Speaker 1: preached in our community. Soon. Like I've had ten record deals.
Speaker 1: There's not one person I've ever signed to someone that said,
Speaker 1: let me help you out, sir, let me let me
Speaker 1: make sure you invest into the right properties, to make
Speaker 1: sure you take your money and give it to this encounter.
Speaker 1: I've been years. It's not one person I had to go,
Speaker 1: like I said, I think you said that earlier. I
Speaker 1: had to go and seek these people. But the thing
Speaker 1: about it is, it's like that's funked up. Where's where's
Speaker 1: the book that's ever gonna be written? Like yo, that's
Speaker 1: how you go from you know, black and brown poorness
Speaker 1: to you know, there's there's books that's out there. We
Speaker 1: just gotta read more. But but also we know it's coming.
Speaker 1: This is what So like, as far as you know
Speaker 1: how to, the NBA and NFL have like a rookie symposium.
Speaker 1: So we've been talking about like doing that for the
Speaker 1: music industry. I'm sorry. Rookie symposium is like when kie
Speaker 1: Like I understood that when rookies, when rookies first get drafted,
Speaker 1: like a couple of months after they go to like Vegas,
Speaker 1: they go different places and they have like a whole
Speaker 1: weekend of events. So that like just how you talk
Speaker 1: to the media. This is how you deal with these
Speaker 1: relationship situations, This is how you deal with money. So
Speaker 1: I feel like it needs to be a training camp
Speaker 1: for for record artists, right, But that's let me, let
Speaker 1: me just stop you. That's why we're so dumb in
Speaker 1: hip hop because we don't have that. I just told you.
Speaker 1: That's what we're working on. That's what we're working on.
Speaker 1: Artists development, the real artist one of their powers. Because
Speaker 1: you know why you gotta you gotta helping like me,
Speaker 1: but I could go fly and helping what you do
Speaker 1: the funk up? Because you hope someone that I can say,
Speaker 1: I'm up. We help you, you help somebody else. You
Speaker 1: help each one reach one, each one, each artist that's
Speaker 1: signed and the artist that's not signed, like the independent artists.
Speaker 1: Like one of the huge things is now, I know
Speaker 1: everybody wants to be independent, but don't really know how
Speaker 1: you understand me. I have hick Misson was asking me
Speaker 1: about how to create a discord, right, so that you
Speaker 1: can put your community in there and so you can
Speaker 1: have access to your own community. One thing I asked
Speaker 1: people all the time, it is like you have your
Speaker 1: favorite artists, But how much money have you spent with
Speaker 1: that artists over a lifetime? Average person? Probably five dollars
Speaker 1: based on streaming right artists? Now, yeah, nowadays stream we
Speaker 1: had it was you was selling it. It was your business,
Speaker 1: you understand me. But they changed it to the streaming
Speaker 1: companies and a lot of artists didn't know how to adapt. That.
Speaker 1: I got you for so learning learning business, you get
Speaker 1: creative on how to package your product, number one, you
Speaker 1: understand me. Otherwise you always go be looking for somebody
Speaker 1: else that tells you how to manage yourself, how to
Speaker 1: put the product out right. It's like social media. We
Speaker 1: sign a contract once we go on these sites, right
Speaker 1: that says that they own all of our intellectual property right,
Speaker 1: And essentially it's like signing over the masters to all
Speaker 1: your I P. Right and that you can make money
Speaker 1: on social media, but you have to leverage it the
Speaker 1: same way artists have the leverage doing concerts rather to
Speaker 1: get a direct benefit of monetization. Right. But we don't
Speaker 1: think about these things as business models. We just hand
Speaker 1: them over so we can get access. So the new
Speaker 1: world that's coming in when people talk about web three
Speaker 1: and things of that nature is figuring out how to
Speaker 1: be independent and how to own your own community, how
Speaker 1: to own your own I p how to generate a
Speaker 1: business around that. That's a different game. I want artists.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the average rapper makes on Blogley
Speaker 1: say seventy thousand, and I think it's that's way too high, right,
Speaker 1: But the reality of it is is that I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if there's a lot of people that want to be rappers,
Speaker 1: and I know some of them, they're not making no
Speaker 1: money of their actual career. Because rappers a career. It's
Speaker 1: like a job, it's a business like anything else. But
Speaker 1: they don't know how to package it, how to products,
Speaker 1: how to run a concert, how to build a marketing plan,
Speaker 1: distribution around any of what they're doing. So it's okay
Speaker 1: to be of the artists in the credive community, but
Speaker 1: you have to learn the business that coincides with it.
Speaker 1: So otherwise you can't complain about the contract. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give Oakland some credit. I'm gonna give Oakland some I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get Oakland Oakland because because one of our alumni
Speaker 1: from E y L. The Russell Yeah yeah, Yeahble you
Speaker 1: had him on here. No, no, but it's incredible. You
Speaker 1: got everything that he didn spoke about, figured it out
Speaker 1: and is mastering it. And we're not We're gonna do
Speaker 1: some stuff with him too. But he's figured it out
Speaker 1: how to monetize his audience. Whereas when most times people
Speaker 1: just buy tickets, it's like there's no relationship between. He
Speaker 1: has figured out, like, yo, how do I maximize knowing
Speaker 1: my audience, knowing my and making sure that they get
Speaker 1: exactly what they need, but also incentivizing the things that
Speaker 1: he's given. He really has figured out, like like Nip
Speaker 1: kind of glorified, but he's really taken it to the
Speaker 1: next level where it's like, yo, you can pay anything
Speaker 1: you want. So his album, you can pay a dollar
Speaker 1: for it, or you can pay a thousand dollars for
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Whereas most people look at it like YO,
Speaker 1: all right, how many people are gonna pay a dollar? Yeah,
Speaker 1: people are gonna pay a doll for it. But then
Speaker 1: you might get somebody like us who are looking at
Speaker 1: it like, yo, I love what he's doing. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pay five dollars for it. And he's building up a
Speaker 1: core audience straight front, like and you utilizing into the
Speaker 1: sense where it's like from a math standpoint, it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, if I pay a dollar and he
Speaker 1: pays five hundred, if enough people do that on average,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make about twenty seven dollars if if if
Speaker 1: everybody pays a dollar ten and a couple of people
Speaker 1: that are you thinking about it? Right? Like if you
Speaker 1: put out album today, are you making twenty seven dollars
Speaker 1: per album? No? Way? Right after they thinking about album?
Speaker 1: Not not you, but you looked at me doing shows
Speaker 1: at his house and exactly so he directed ansumers but
Speaker 1: everything most people on the album, and they're gonna get
Speaker 1: like points on the album. So it's like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: might make nine sense, he might sell, but he's making
Speaker 1: twenty seven. East credit to the history of the Bay
Speaker 1: Area in general from being independent from the game. Down
Speaker 1: South too though, down South about but Houston, I would say,
Speaker 1: the big Houston, New Orleans all that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Independence. Everybody can reach your independence now, man,
Speaker 1: but you know your independence is let me ask. This
Speaker 1: is going to be like probably the last question story.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be that's gonna be like cut head.
Speaker 1: Anybody wants to answer it, answer it. But murder and
Speaker 1: the hip hop murder, yeah, like like the lyrics about
Speaker 1: murdering killing, people murdered whatever. The death culture. Right now,
Speaker 1: it feel like death culture murder, people getting killed, people
Speaker 1: getting killed. I feel like I feel like it's energy
Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, you gotta be extremely careful.
Speaker 1: Like I said, words have power, the energy and the
Speaker 1: persona that you put out has power. So you know,
Speaker 1: when you put out a persona of certain type of things,
Speaker 1: sometimes it comes back to you. And when you're in
Speaker 1: an environment like you never hear about the Ja Coles
Speaker 1: in the world, but you never hear about the j
Speaker 1: Coles of the world, of Chinnical Lamars of the world.
Speaker 1: You never heard about these people toler quality. You never
Speaker 1: hear a the people getting killed, if you think about it, right,
Speaker 1: never hear by no conscious rappers quote unquote concous rappers
Speaker 1: getting killed. And it's like, why why they're still black,
Speaker 1: they're still rappers. About anybody in another culture getting killed? Huh,
Speaker 1: you don't hear about anybody another culture getting killed? Well,
Speaker 1: that's true too. I'm just saying, just within our culture,
Speaker 1: how many conscious rappers have ever been killed? Just think
Speaker 1: about it? How many kind of comments from the same
Speaker 1: city where we what we think about a lot of death? Right,
Speaker 1: he's from Chicago, He's from death. But but how many
Speaker 1: conscious rappers in the history of rap has ever been killed?
Speaker 1: Think about it. I can't do it. Not one. I
Speaker 1: don't think not one. How many quote unquote gangster rappers
Speaker 1: have been killed? Hundreds? Saying it's almost like I think,
Speaker 1: so are we braving the music Tupac was. Tupac was
Speaker 1: borderline conscious, but towards the end of his career he
Speaker 1: chose a persona of a gangster and a gang banger
Speaker 1: and agree with you, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: so it's like I feel like, hey, we gotta be
Speaker 1: careful of what we're champion and what kind of energy
Speaker 1: we put out there, because ultimately, whatever energy you put
Speaker 1: out there is gonna come back to you. And ultimately
Speaker 1: we gotta be more careful about how we value each other.
Speaker 1: Like I said, just going back to conflict resolution is
Speaker 1: extremely important. This is a good thing that ended with like,
Speaker 1: you know, what does it take to to to understand,
Speaker 1: like to say, Okay, I hurt you, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, that's
Speaker 1: one of the hardest things to do as a manner
Speaker 1: to say I'm sorry. It's easier to kill somebody. It's
Speaker 1: easier to kill somebody than it is to say I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Think about that. Like most people, it's easier to physically
Speaker 1: harm somebody. I could punch you in your face and
Speaker 1: slap you with no I gotta think about saying sorry.
Speaker 1: It's gonna hurt me. It's gonna bring down myself. It's
Speaker 1: gonna like humble me, Like I could rather just spitting
Speaker 1: your face and say I'm sorry. How do how do
Speaker 1: how do we go? Won't let you? How do we
Speaker 1: how do we know how to talk to each other?
Speaker 1: How do we know to apologize when we hurt each other?
Speaker 1: How do we know how to communicate to be like yo, bro,
Speaker 1: I wasn't feeling that without it escalating to the point
Speaker 1: where we got it is talking out That goes back
Speaker 1: to children. Conflict resolution is the biggest issue in our community.
Speaker 1: There's people that are doing thirty years and jail as
Speaker 1: people that's under ground because of conflict resolution. They wasn't
Speaker 1: able to communicate their problems and they thought that the
Speaker 1: way that to solve the problems was through violence and
Speaker 1: through aggression. Ultimately, that only kills two different people. It's
Speaker 1: going to kill the person that's dead, and it's going
Speaker 1: to kill the person that's gonna do forty years in life,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna kill their kid that's gonna grow up
Speaker 1: without all that. So it's like once again going back
Speaker 1: to financial literacy extremely important. Health extremely important, you know,
Speaker 1: mental health extremely important, Conflict resolution extremely important, Communication extremely important,
Speaker 1: Like we really got to master the art of communication.
Speaker 1: We really gotta under stand how to control our emotions.
Speaker 1: We really got to understand how to talk to each
Speaker 1: other as men. And this is things that's going to
Speaker 1: really save an uplift our community if we don't be
Speaker 1: gonna be in a continuous cycle of violence and people dying,
Speaker 1: and ultimately, nobody's winning from that. Nobody's winning from that.
Speaker 1: So it's like, learn how to deal with your emotions,
Speaker 1: learn how to communicate effectively, and hopefully this this can change,
Speaker 1: but we have to we have to get on a
Speaker 1: higher level of frequency. And I think the music plays
Speaker 1: a big part. And this is extremely important because this
Speaker 1: is a music platform. Ultimately, even though you had us
Speaker 1: on him thank you for that. But music is one
Speaker 1: of the most is probably the most important things. Appreciate
Speaker 1: that music is the most important thing we got. We got.
Speaker 1: We gotta be careful about the messages that we're putting
Speaker 1: in the music because the messages that were put in
Speaker 1: the music definitely they they impact the lives of the
Speaker 1: people that are listening to it. So it's like the musicians,
Speaker 1: it's not just art. It's not just people say like, yo,
Speaker 1: you could make a movie. Music is different from movies
Speaker 1: because I never watched the movie and thought it was
Speaker 1: real life. But I listened to Prodigy and I actually
Speaker 1: thought that that was real life. When I made The
Speaker 1: Warrior for I didn't know that people are exaggerating rhymes.
Speaker 1: So the next album is like, you don't got to
Speaker 1: do nothing like just yeah, and I was like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, so that's fucked up. I'm talking you know
Speaker 1: the unabuls A little far con says something. He's say,
Speaker 1: one rap song is worth a thousand sermons, right, Simons,
Speaker 1: like a thousand speeches, I believe for for anybody. Almost
Speaker 1: I think the actual quote was speeches. I might have misquoted,
Speaker 1: but sermons or speeches because think think about the power.
Speaker 1: We know what that is. That's the whole another conversation.
Speaker 1: But when we talk about hip hop, in the death
Speaker 1: courture around hip hop, most people make music, but it's
Speaker 1: a soundtrack to their death. Don't order you understand me?
Speaker 1: And let me ask all three of y'all, is this
Speaker 1: the first time we ever had music titled death? Let
Speaker 1: me let me let me finish my point real quick.
Speaker 1: When I went to had a party for Empire that
Speaker 1: I forgot what they call like every year they have one,
Speaker 1: and they invited me to come by right because I
Speaker 1: was speaking to some of the office at BT, like
Speaker 1: money man, things of that nature. As I'm speaking to it,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the front and mostly all of the rappers,
Speaker 1: everybody's coming in. They come in, they stopping, they're paying
Speaker 1: how much and showing love, and then some of them
Speaker 1: will stop and be like keys. You know, we talked
Speaker 1: to this gangster ship, but I don't actually rather talk
Speaker 1: about something else. But I don't know how to switch.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to change, you understand me. And
Speaker 1: so the way you come in the door often is
Speaker 1: the way you have to stay because you lose your
Speaker 1: the ends. So it's a lot of times, just teaching
Speaker 1: them how you can make that pivot and music as well,
Speaker 1: because they'd rather make party music rather than talk about
Speaker 1: killing and murdering all of the time. Because every rapper
Speaker 1: makes the soundtrack to their death, you can go back
Speaker 1: to their lyrics and it looks like the description of
Speaker 1: how they died. Like he talked about music as a frequency,
Speaker 1: it can control the mind, our bodies of water. That
Speaker 1: music gets trapped into our subconscious and we're always thinking
Speaker 1: those lyrics over and over. Then we jump into the
Speaker 1: environments as well. So you're talking about cash, robbing and killing.
Speaker 1: Then you got cats around you that robbed and killed.
Speaker 1: So for you to get caught into the mix of
Speaker 1: your own lyrics only makes sense. When we talk about Greek.
Speaker 1: You know, from the hood, we always talk about listening.
Speaker 1: We can make music that reflects the environment we see,
Speaker 1: and we can make music that reflects the environment we
Speaker 1: want to see. But these are two different things. A second, man,
Speaker 1: it's twice the godgame. Say talk to me, but I've
Speaker 1: never heard of Susvestless alone having any problems in the hood.
Speaker 1: That's that point problem with the movie that scar Face.
Speaker 1: But let me look at this case. This guy's got
Speaker 1: I took him collection, but no security. But but they're
Speaker 1: not they're not from the environment. That in the environment,
Speaker 1: and nobody believes that that's actually. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: speaking from firsthand experience. Bro. When I was I got
Speaker 1: into it, almost got into a fight about at one point,
Speaker 1: I was prodigy, was the best rapper. And you could
Speaker 1: not convince me that almost dude right in middle schools,
Speaker 1: he was about to fight. I was there. I was
Speaker 1: in middle the best rapping about to fight some no prodigy,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying something at that time,
Speaker 1: you couldn't tell me that every single word he's saying,
Speaker 1: it's not reality. Oh you couldn't. Ge couldn't convince me
Speaker 1: that it wasn't reality because that's how emotionally invested I was.
Speaker 1: I was never emotionally invested like that in any actor ever.
Speaker 1: I never I never watched the movie and thought I'm
Speaker 1: a fight over Denzel Washington. So it's like, we gotta
Speaker 1: be honest. It's a good argument to say, but in reality,
Speaker 1: our culture, our children, it's real, are looking at rappers
Speaker 1: way different than it look active different. When I when
Speaker 1: I hurt body in the trunk, Bro, I had the question,
Speaker 1: is this a real story, real ship record, great record?
Speaker 1: I mean, I really want to know why it was never?
Speaker 1: I wonder why I was never. I'm not stop this
Speaker 1: real or any invest the statue limitations that never happened.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. I'm listening to nas. I'm like, what is beautiful?
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's normal? It's beautiful. Yeah, we need it all.
Speaker 1: But but when the gods stopped being in wrapping hip hop,
Speaker 1: because you know it started off that, that's what sucked
Speaker 1: it up. When it was no longer now yourself in
Speaker 1: the court, the principles, no value. Then it was just
Speaker 1: East coast, West coast, you understand me, drill music, music,
Speaker 1: killing each other, laying drugs, fast sex, fast depth. Everything
Speaker 1: about courture now is about how to die quicker, you
Speaker 1: understand me. It's not how to live longer. Music now yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's surrounded by death courts and all of us
Speaker 1: as well into our age. I've never remember hip hop,
Speaker 1: nick nick, and it's like my son, my son is old.
Speaker 1: Did you understanding it's real? Said? Won't least they said
Speaker 1: all this ship, they never labeled that they called against
Speaker 1: him because that was going against the established the level
Speaker 1: what did you call it? The level of violence that's
Speaker 1: celebrated now and drill wrap is a height that's never
Speaker 1: been seen before. When you're smoking on somebody that's dead,
Speaker 1: when you make when you laugh, dances on somebody, when
Speaker 1: when you last see one person, they took the person's tools,
Speaker 1: broke into his block. Yeah, Like know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like cast is getting carried through the streets. This is
Speaker 1: this is a this is a level of disrespect for
Speaker 1: dead people that we've never seen before, never seen, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So this this, this is like
Speaker 1: I said, this is influencing younger. Like I said, my
Speaker 1: sons are growing up on My son is eleven years old.
Speaker 1: He don't know anything about street life, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But like he's listening to drill music, so
Speaker 1: he's he's he's educating me on like Dideosama and different kids.
Speaker 1: But it's like ultimately, no matter no you, but it's
Speaker 1: no matter what, when you're listening to it, it's gonna
Speaker 1: have some level of effect, have some level. You don't
Speaker 1: even have to be able to live that you don't
Speaker 1: after a while when you're listening to it, he's telling
Speaker 1: me about sugar Hill. I'm like, what you know about
Speaker 1: sugar He's like, Dideosma from sugar Hill, sugar Hill. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking A Z like you know what I'm saying, the
Speaker 1: movie sugar Hill, that was an aspirational sugar Hill from Hallm.
Speaker 1: That's one of the that was one of the richest
Speaker 1: blocks in the Hallm renaissance when A Z made sugar
Speaker 1: Hill a Z from Brooklyn. But it was like that
Speaker 1: was aspirational, Like know what I'm saying. It was like
Speaker 1: I made it to sugar Hill. He likes sugar Hills,
Speaker 1: the hood, and he's telling me about all of this
Speaker 1: drill wrapping, all this that's coming out of that. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, that's the effect that is having
Speaker 1: on young people where it's like you celebrating your ops
Speaker 1: getting killed and you're dancing on their graves and you're
Speaker 1: smoking it there packs and all that. At at some
Speaker 1: point in time, we got to understand that's gonna come
Speaker 1: back to you. That's Demon Time Ship. That's like that's
Speaker 1: what it ain't no God in it, no more like
Speaker 1: they don't even believe in God for the most part,
Speaker 1: Like they really acted sam on Demon Time that's somebody
Speaker 1: who's a million for the devil. You understand me. So
Speaker 1: all their lower thoughts and ideas, they don't have no
Speaker 1: ideas towards life off. But a lot of times people
Speaker 1: say you reach out to the younger generation. Sometimes I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: well it's a lot of younger it's a lot of
Speaker 1: younger generation to reach out to. I was them before
Speaker 1: you gotta make it. Yeah, but I was on that
Speaker 1: level of disrespect, like like I didn't like that older
Speaker 1: niggas didn't give me love that I wanted. That's who
Speaker 1: did you look up to at that time? But when
Speaker 1: you was twenty you made Warrport, you said black on
Speaker 1: black crime. It's both, it's Swain, we both back background,
Speaker 1: both sing em to mar So it's like you got
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that you have always come back to
Speaker 1: knowledge yourself and they ain't got nothing. And if you don't,
Speaker 1: you don't know you can. You can call yourself a demon,
Speaker 1: but you can't call yourself a god. Understand me, And
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a serious point. Knowledge yourself. I don't
Speaker 1: care who you are, where you come from, what's your course,
Speaker 1: and what's your background. There ain't never been no greater
Speaker 1: man than where knowledge yourself has taught men how to become.
Speaker 1: You understand me. I'm talking about like when you're talking
Speaker 1: about people love Malcolm X, people love Minister far Kind
Speaker 1: in the Nation of Islam, because that was his foundations.
Speaker 1: You understand me, to let you know who you are.
Speaker 1: They are here navigating lost. So they're gonna fall in
Speaker 1: love with the money. They're gonna fall in love with
Speaker 1: the drugs. They're gonna fall in love with the sex
Speaker 1: to influence the party in the industry. The most dangerous
Speaker 1: thing for a young mind is to be impressed. When
Speaker 1: you're impressed by something that changes the integrity of who
Speaker 1: you are, when you already don't have that thinking, that
Speaker 1: confidence of knowing who you are. Then something else you
Speaker 1: can look at, this is greater than yourself, and they
Speaker 1: can use that to manipulate and control you in any
Speaker 1: faster the way. So these young boys, they look at
Speaker 1: all he talked about murder and death, he talked about
Speaker 1: his options. I'm impressed by that. He got likes, he
Speaker 1: got money off of it. I'm going to do the
Speaker 1: same thing. Can we look at anything anti black that y'all?
Speaker 1: This and the dad, this is wicked. This is corny.
Speaker 1: We denounced that absolutely, that's not your opposition. Yeah, these
Speaker 1: are people that look like what I want to talk
Speaker 1: about yours is like from if you listen, like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna thinking because when he sat there, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: damn closer, Like you literally started my saying. I started
Speaker 1: out and I rapped the wrong route. You already knew.
Speaker 1: You already knew. But this aspiration in the next few lines,
Speaker 1: like trying to go from paint overs to make sofas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to that point. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we were busy talking about no, bro, Like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is the circumstances that we end and the real
Speaker 1: how are we gonna get We're not trying to stay here,
Speaker 1: We're trying to go here. I'm really your brother. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying like inside, like at twenty so think about that.
Speaker 1: You're doing that at twenty poem part of that too,
Speaker 1: But it's like, yo, ya can see it. Y'all started
Speaker 1: from it. But Yo, this is the aspiration to get
Speaker 1: to hear Whereas now it's like, how can I be
Speaker 1: as disrespectful as possible? Is the power amount? What did
Speaker 1: Nipsey Hustle say He's say, when you look at the
Speaker 1: guys in the the hood, often when they go looking
Speaker 1: for somebody, looking for somebody that look like them, you're
Speaker 1: looking to go kill as something. Let me that's what happens.
Speaker 1: Let me change the subject real quick, because this is
Speaker 1: what everybody think. Do you think Nipsey Hustle being killed
Speaker 1: wascy theory? I mean a conspiracy theory is just people
Speaker 1: having a theory that was in conspiracy. You understand me.
Speaker 1: To be killed, I have no facts around this, so
Speaker 1: I don't want theorist. I know that Nipsey hustle life
Speaker 1: was probably one of the greatest lessons in hip hop Ever,
Speaker 1: you understand me, and I don't want people to be
Speaker 1: fearful of the legacy that he left behind. You understand me.
Speaker 1: Many people would die on the route to change, right,
Speaker 1: but you honor Jesus. You honor their life by going
Speaker 1: further doing the same thing that they did. You don't
Speaker 1: honor by saying what now, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: That's not how you honor a man that lived his
Speaker 1: life trying to change his environment and the circumstances of
Speaker 1: you looking at that life and saying, this is how
Speaker 1: he failed, Let me do something different exactly. That's the
Speaker 1: points from you always got to learn from revolutionaries. Every
Speaker 1: revolutionary makes mistakes. But it's like Shake Rivera, he's he
Speaker 1: he's a revolutionary and he ended up dying for the cause.
Speaker 1: But ultimately they won, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: they took a shot for that. I don't know. I respect,
Speaker 1: I respect changed what like like this in the sense,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I know it's deeper with cash and
Speaker 1: all that, But I'm just saying as far as the
Speaker 1: original intense, No, the intense themselves from the oppression. I
Speaker 1: respect people the proactiveness, but what we don't know what
Speaker 1: that man became and the revolution. That's exactly why it's
Speaker 1: called And he could tie it into Dion, you could
Speaker 1: talk into anything. The reason it's called the marathon because
Speaker 1: the baton needs to be passed. And so when we
Speaker 1: look at Nipsey's, I can see we are Nipsey's. I
Speaker 1: can see we don't look at it like yeah, that's his. No,
Speaker 1: we look at it like that's ours, right, Like the
Speaker 1: marathon continues like we really live in that's it's it's
Speaker 1: in us. So crazy about Nip. We was actually real
Speaker 1: Nip fans. We went to his concert and all of that, like,
Speaker 1: we're really supported it, and we knew that we was
Speaker 1: waking an interview with him after he died. Every single
Speaker 1: person we haven't met Black Sam yet, but every single
Speaker 1: person from j Stone to Dave Growth Sam, his sister,
Speaker 1: to his sister to Damn Steve All everyone I love y'all,
Speaker 1: call me the middle of bro Nip. Nip would have
Speaker 1: loved y'all. He called me in the middle of everyone.
Speaker 1: Everyone of him like, Yo, Nip would have loved y'all
Speaker 1: because y'all doing exactly what he wanted to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: unfortunately he had an untimely demise. But it's up to
Speaker 1: us to carry the torch to and to keep it,
Speaker 1: keep it, keep the race going. So that's actually my
Speaker 1: last question, and I know I actually again, I actually
Speaker 1: had this earlier, and I want to re ask this again.
Speaker 1: So many of us want to invest in our own hood,
Speaker 1: but we we can, we can. You know, it's chinks.
Speaker 1: Edit that out. I'm trying to save you China. That's
Speaker 1: not politically correct. Everybody's name Asian population, no change drug.
Speaker 1: I thought, I how do I get kissing today said
Speaker 1: edit that out. He said, I didn't smoking the gunball
Speaker 1: going he said the chinks I said, but I'm looking
Speaker 1: at your face is like waiting that weaded so many people,
Speaker 1: so many people, so many people. Uh, look at what's
Speaker 1: my man name, young Dolf yeast peace. So many people
Speaker 1: get murdered at home, and yeah, in their own hood,
Speaker 1: they'll stay home, they try to investigate. And if they
Speaker 1: don't try to investigate hood, what they're trying to do
Speaker 1: is invest into the investment that's already invested, and then
Speaker 1: they'll go and try to support that investment. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: then they die. Yeah, And I understand what you guys
Speaker 1: are saying, go back and invest, but there's so many
Speaker 1: cases of rappers going home to invest into their own
Speaker 1: hood and then trying to to build that financial well
Speaker 1: and then they die. But there's also so many cases
Speaker 1: like tr Gucci. You're not Gucci, but jeez, you understand me.
Speaker 1: They invested into Atlanta heavily. I think that if you
Speaker 1: focus on the cases where things went wrong, you magnify that.
Speaker 1: But there are so many black men and women that
Speaker 1: do invest in to commercial real estate in their neighborhood.
Speaker 1: And um, but jeez, won't promote that. I mean, the
Speaker 1: only reason I know it is because he said it.
Speaker 1: Want the exact location. I get what you're saying. You're saying,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to be intelligent. You
Speaker 1: have to be intelligent, right, and you have to we
Speaker 1: have to look in for full circumstances as well. That
Speaker 1: wasn't just a random act of violence when Nipsey Hustle, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, ultimately I love Nipsey Hustle. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I love Nipsey Hustle. I love everything
Speaker 1: about him, and I love his music. But ultimately, you're
Speaker 1: still a gang member and it's a it's a conflict
Speaker 1: between another gang member, so make it what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that we gotta look at the
Speaker 1: whole picture and be and be truthful about it. Right,
Speaker 1: It's not just a random act of He just opened
Speaker 1: up a business in his neighborhood and he got killed
Speaker 1: for no reason. It's like, these are different activities that
Speaker 1: take place within gang culture. So it's like, now we
Speaker 1: gotta look at the bigger picture of gang culture, where
Speaker 1: we know that most crips are not killed by bloods,
Speaker 1: most crips are killed by crips. Most bloods are killed
Speaker 1: by bloods. This is an internal conflict that's been happening
Speaker 1: for a long time. Nipsey Hustle not the first person.
Speaker 1: He's not the first Rolling sixty to get killed by
Speaker 1: Rolling sixty. That has been happening for a long time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily I don't think that it's because Nipsey Hustle opened
Speaker 1: the business in this neighborhood and he got killed. It's
Speaker 1: probably because of internal What I'm saying is, how do
Speaker 1: we defer people from saying that. How do we tell
Speaker 1: Gumbo Gumbo? Listen, you met him on a hundred forty
Speaker 1: Gumbo wants to, you know, put Madison Square, Gumbo on
Speaker 1: a hundred forty free right where Copler's used to be.
Speaker 1: But but guess what the sixteen people who just got
Speaker 1: killed up the block or down the block or around
Speaker 1: the block. And then why why why would we invest
Speaker 1: into these communities that is actually savage? How do they
Speaker 1: do it when when you look at gentrification, what is
Speaker 1: the process that happens a lot of times they move
Speaker 1: out a lot of people before they invest into that neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You understand me. This is how they control it. So
Speaker 1: you start to see a bunch of people that get
Speaker 1: priced out of just get kicked out of that neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Then they start to bring in the Starbucks. Then they
Speaker 1: start to bring in, right, all of the different type
Speaker 1: of business. Because let me stop before, which is not
Speaker 1: at a particularly bad things. We did the same thing
Speaker 1: because justification had started in like the like the barely
Speaker 1: white neighborhoods at first, and there was like all right,
Speaker 1: whol it's like like twelve cent black people, just get
Speaker 1: them out of here. Let let me say this more.
Speaker 1: It's about how you do it though, right, Magic Johnson
Speaker 1: has it there in or right, he got it there
Speaker 1: on Hunt fifth Street. Right, it's how you do it.
Speaker 1: You don't necessarily have to be hanging out in front
Speaker 1: of the every single day you und you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: have to be involved in the neighborhood politics. So it's
Speaker 1: about being intelligent at the end of the day as well,
Speaker 1: and how how you carrying It's like, we could do
Speaker 1: good business, but let's do good business some Unfortunately sometimes
Speaker 1: most of the times we we we mix business and
Speaker 1: neighborhood and we don't know how they can buy, and
Speaker 1: we don't know how to separate the two businesses, business
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood politics and neighborhood politics. If you're a
Speaker 1: business owner in that neighborhood and you have a business
Speaker 1: own in the neighborhood, you don't necessarily need to be
Speaker 1: deeply rooted in the neighborhood politics. Separate yourself because you
Speaker 1: could be a business owner and uplift the community and
Speaker 1: make money. But when you when you are deep rooted
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood politics, neighborhood issues, is gonna happen to you.
Speaker 1: That's that's part, that's the natural progression. It's like when
Speaker 1: when this elevation is going to be separation. But you
Speaker 1: got to know that, right, there's certain things that you're
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to partake in. So that that
Speaker 1: comes on. How does the person invest into the hood
Speaker 1: and then not trying to be in part of it.
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you one thing that we're doing with
Speaker 1: some good brothers at Oasis. I suppose I invest in
Speaker 1: new work, right, and then new work has a baseball game,
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't want to go out? I mean, if you
Speaker 1: want to go, you go, But I think that's separate.
Speaker 1: Tend your investment, like you can invest like our our ideas,
Speaker 1: like investing into Black America. It could be anywhere in America,
Speaker 1: but it's Black America investing into our communities and have
Speaker 1: the businesses as owned by us. Right. Like one thing
Speaker 1: that we're doing is is having a fund to where
Speaker 1: anybody can invest in the neighborhood. Right, you go look
Speaker 1: at all of the abandoned houses that's in the neighborhood
Speaker 1: and abandoned buildings. Then you go buy those buildings up,
Speaker 1: you put and it's there, and the people that live
Speaker 1: in that environment that invested into that fund or just
Speaker 1: those families, they are going to support that business and
Speaker 1: now they also have equity in that business as well
Speaker 1: or that company. There's there's multiple to the different ways
Speaker 1: that you can go about investing. It's about what is
Speaker 1: your strategy and how you want to go about doing it. Now,
Speaker 1: somebody like you that have some money, you can invest
Speaker 1: all throughout America. Nobody has to know you're right. If
Speaker 1: you want to go to that game, you're gonna go
Speaker 1: to that game, whether you're invested into that community or not.
Speaker 1: So they have nothing to do with your investment portfolio.
Speaker 1: The thing is the people that own our shops and
Speaker 1: own our communities are not in them. You don't see
Speaker 1: them ever. So you can own your whole block and
Speaker 1: everybody could be paying you, you know, Rick, and nobody
Speaker 1: has to ever see that. That's my whole point. And
Speaker 1: you can still be active on a certain level. But
Speaker 1: it's like there's different between being active coming through showing
Speaker 1: love and being active on the corner in the barbershop
Speaker 1: conversation and you said it, The crazy part is that
Speaker 1: you actually live this right. You've been rapping, rapping left
Speaker 1: rack since I first heard you IRAQ, Like that's all
Speaker 1: I know. Then I met the person that owned it
Speaker 1: thirty years later. Crazy, he'd be thirty five, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and like I know you and by
Speaker 1: yeah and by default like he just he like I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there at college house and he's sitting there, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: he waited, he waited to speak to me. And then
Speaker 1: when he changed, you have was the change? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he got he got this a little bit confused. What
Speaker 1: it was is he seen my chain and then really
Speaker 1: showed him his chain when he had left frax City
Speaker 1: on it. You know what I'm saying. So um, But
Speaker 1: what it was was like he he sat there and
Speaker 1: he waited it and he was like, yo, you know
Speaker 1: you've been wrapping my family forever, and like it was
Speaker 1: a bit of sweet moments. He owned the business and
Speaker 1: you never knew who he was, but to me Italian.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's okay to say Jewish. But
Speaker 1: this is important. When we was going down in Brownsville
Speaker 1: and throughout New York and we're having conversations with the
Speaker 1: business owner, most of them was Middle Eastern or Jewish.
Speaker 1: You can't have a conversation about Black America without having
Speaker 1: a conversation with or about Jewish people because we're intertwined.
Speaker 1: Most people, landlords are going to be Jewish. Most of
Speaker 1: the stories that we support are going to be Jewish.
Speaker 1: So what we're doing is we're looking at the same
Speaker 1: models that they've built and said, we want to do
Speaker 1: that for ourselves. Thank you for showing us. Now it's
Speaker 1: time for us to build a day and we should.
Speaker 1: And so when you say what's the blueprint, that's the blueprint.
Speaker 1: The Asian community is the blueprint. You understand me, they've
Speaker 1: shown us how to do it. All we have to
Speaker 1: do is follow those same models that we complain about
Speaker 1: instead utilize them as solutions and strategies. That's it. That's
Speaker 1: crazy that this came around. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Thank you all so much. I'm being honest um to
Speaker 1: visit um, but I'm being honest. Um. Your job is
Speaker 1: way more dangerous than our jobs because y'all teaching people
Speaker 1: to get up and stay out like if you like,
Speaker 1: because that's that's what we're used to in the hood,
Speaker 1: the Ponzi scheme, right, Like you go, you come buy
Speaker 1: till your icy. It's Italian icy. It this is Italian.
Speaker 1: This is tire nicy, and then by the time you
Speaker 1: get to the big Italian icy, no one gets a
Speaker 1: tire nicey. Right. That's the posy schemes that we're used
Speaker 1: to in New York. Right, this is this is how
Speaker 1: it is. But there's no Palsi s kid, this is
Speaker 1: real ship. You're telling people this. You do A B
Speaker 1: and C, you're gonna get to E F G and
Speaker 1: nothing else comes goes with it. Just fucking follow the rules.
Speaker 1: Bos Bro said, it's way more dangerous than mars All
Speaker 1: I'm doing is bringing you back to life, to your
Speaker 1: old school rapper. Let's come here. Good. Now that got wrong.
Speaker 1: You're back back. I don't need to spread that dust
Speaker 1: on y'all, y'all dust to spread it on me. But
Speaker 1: that's what I have to do. Spread this dusty this this,
Speaker 1: this is a dangerous conversation of dangerous collaboration. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they are back man, we we I'm always here to
Speaker 1: be a resource. You relax word what you got to
Speaker 1: relax the whole time? Say we got to edit that.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate ate you guys. You guys deserved. You
Speaker 1: guys are beautiful. No no, no, no no no, I'm
Speaker 1: not real ship. No, it's really your alleged, your alegged
Speaker 1: that's the real ship. And I want to say thank
Speaker 1: y'all because there's non before y'all, and we don't know
Speaker 1: who's gonna be after y'all, just like y'all Sanders, just
Speaker 1: like Deon. Alright, Dion did what he had to do.
Speaker 1: That was great, and he went on. He got his paycheck.
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna disagree, someone's gonna agree. But what y'all doing,
Speaker 1: it's different. Y'are teaching us how to be stable how
Speaker 1: to continue with this, and not only that, teach other
Speaker 1: people how to do It's not a secret. You could
Speaker 1: I could be saying, take take off, Simlar, me, you
Speaker 1: and five people. You're not doing that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like these people are gonna be like, oh cool,
Speaker 1: they got MANswers, they got big boy roll. He's I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pay that. No, you're doing this for the world.
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing. We appreciate that. This is the
Speaker 1: last question. All of the people that I know when
Speaker 1: this man was president. When this man was president, everybody
Speaker 1: I know was rich. It's Trump good for us. Let
Speaker 1: me just say this, Let's just keep it really going
Speaker 1: to the bathroom. Donald Donald Donald Trump, Donald Trump. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump is definitely uh. He seemed like a racist. He's
Speaker 1: very ignorant person when it comes to a variety of
Speaker 1: different things. But he is a businessman and um at
Speaker 1: the end of the broke people when he was in office.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I gotta give. So I say this,
Speaker 1: you know was your good busines? Well, I'll say this,
Speaker 1: you don't. You do you don't. You don't reach that
Speaker 1: level of success by just being an accident or being dumb.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even a having a family that but
Speaker 1: even even if you have a family, there's plenty of
Speaker 1: people that have families, have to have fun up. So
Speaker 1: we got to give some level of credit when credit
Speaker 1: is due. He is he is. He is a good businessman,
Speaker 1: he's a great marketer, marketing. Yet one of the that
Speaker 1: would say he's a and that's that's that's probably the
Speaker 1: most important part of business. Um. But as as a person,
Speaker 1: of course he's He's done so many different things that
Speaker 1: you know, he has no no integrity. So but as
Speaker 1: far as people won't vote for him, not not in majority,
Speaker 1: because they didn't vote for him last time, I know
Speaker 1: you're not. Even when it comes to the whole politics,
Speaker 1: and my whole thing has always been vote for myself.
Speaker 1: It don't matter whose president. If we rely on who's
Speaker 1: the president for our economic opportunities, we always little. The
Speaker 1: only person you need to vote for every season is yourself.
Speaker 1: You understand me. And when it kind of black America,
Speaker 1: you've already been voted politician. But campaigns what we're doing
Speaker 1: when we travel around the world, people are voting for us,
Speaker 1: understand me. Yeah, The campaign is the education. The campaign
Speaker 1: is the trail that we on. We're teaching our people
Speaker 1: how to do for self rather than wait somebody to
Speaker 1: do for you. So when you teach your people how
Speaker 1: to be self sufficient and they don't have to wait
Speaker 1: on the savior, they're not waiting to vote on the
Speaker 1: next old, rich white man, you understand me. They're voting
Speaker 1: for themselves, saying that I'm gonna take and then we
Speaker 1: vote with our dollars. Right, So when I'm investing into
Speaker 1: a black business, I'm supporting the black business. I'm voting
Speaker 1: for you to circulate my dollar into that community so
Speaker 1: we can have economic eliftment, so more of us at
Speaker 1: the top, right, and less of us are at the bottom.
Speaker 1: That you know, we tried politics for a very long time.
Speaker 1: People can have a conversation about politics, but it's nothing
Speaker 1: if it don't have the capital structure behind it, you
Speaker 1: understand me. So when you talk on politics, if you don't,
Speaker 1: you know, buy the politician and put them into place.
Speaker 1: Because voting is for poor people. Lobbying is for the rich. Right,
Speaker 1: you're rich, so you got to get into the game.
Speaker 1: Lobby lobbying is creating second floor the economic infrastructure to say, look,
Speaker 1: this is what we stand for and we need this
Speaker 1: to happen, right, and so when we we don't really
Speaker 1: have too many back lobbies and so like the lobbyists
Speaker 1: standing on the second floor, Well, so that's where it
Speaker 1: comes from. Right, We're gonna stand in the middle of
Speaker 1: Congress and we're gonna say look, we're gonna be outside
Speaker 1: the center and said, look, these are the things we
Speaker 1: want and if you don't do it, we're not voting
Speaker 1: for you. Right, and you need that back in So
Speaker 1: the n A has a lobby, Jewish community has. We
Speaker 1: don't have a lobby. And so we spoke about this
Speaker 1: on an episode, was like, yo, when do we create
Speaker 1: a Countries have lobbies and when are we going to
Speaker 1: create our lobby to say, like, these are the things
Speaker 1: that we want. We're not voting for you unless these
Speaker 1: needs are met. The problem is that there's so many
Speaker 1: needs that we can't perform to say like, yo, these
Speaker 1: are the things that we want. There's so many things
Speaker 1: that we want, but we haven't figured out what are
Speaker 1: the things that we're gonna put to the paramount or
Speaker 1: the forefront to say like this is it and if
Speaker 1: you don't do these things, we're not voting. What does
Speaker 1: every candidate, what does every candidate need that runs off?
Speaker 1: Hold on this. You know why he felt so confident
Speaker 1: saying that, because all black people vote for Democrat regardless
Speaker 1: of it. And they and most of you know, the
Speaker 1: so called activists and community leaders and people are in
Speaker 1: the pockets of the lobby and groups and of the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party regardless if they have tangible force or not.
Speaker 1: So the new thing is, you know, this generation don't
Speaker 1: believe in that ship. We don't believe in blindly voting
Speaker 1: just to participate in politics. We want to actually make
Speaker 1: everything that we do count. If our ancestors didn't just
Speaker 1: die for us to write to vote, they die for
Speaker 1: us to have ownership and control and power, you understand me.
Speaker 1: But we usualize these old tropes and old things over
Speaker 1: and over and over, but we get nothing, nothing, and nothing.
Speaker 1: So my whole thing is, like you said, no, no
Speaker 1: politician can even run office, not even win without money,
Speaker 1: you understand me. So he gives them that money. Are
Speaker 1: the people that they owe when they get into office.
Speaker 1: So if they owe us, then they have to do
Speaker 1: what we say exactly. That's that's a lobby over I
Speaker 1: got I gotta take at that's drink Champs. Yeah, that's that.
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