1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya Red and I 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Heart radio podcast. Hello, everybody, we're scrubbing in. That's right, 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: it's silent because Tanya is out of the office, out 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: of the O rubbing is a sick little chick today 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: such as me, Mark and Easton, like the times before, Tanya, 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: this is when it was scrubbing in with beccat Tilly. 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 1: That's right, this is this is the o G scrubbing in. Yep, 8 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: it feels quiet. I heard from her this morning early, 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: like five ish, and uh, I didn't respond right away 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: because I was driving, and so I really make a 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: real effort to not look at my phone when I'm driving. 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: When I got to work, I had a number of 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: messages from her and then she'd called other people said 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Mark's not responded to me. I'm going back to bed, 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Like all right, well that's that. So I haven't really 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: spoken to her because she gave up on me because 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: I was driving to work. But it sounds like she 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: was not feeling great. Yeah, she said she was definitely 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: not feeling well and hasn't felt this way in a minute. 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: But she was like, should I go get an I 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: should I get an Ivy drip. I'm like, Tonya, just rest, 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: just rest, You're good. I got the podcast, we could 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: hold it. Just drip. Should I get a Vitamin B shot? 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: No fashion, just drink water. I one time, I remember 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: my first I V drip. It was after the I 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: Heart Awards of Vegas when I was on the bathroom floor. 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: But that was more of like a survive I actually 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: did need. I needed more than water at that time. 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Self inflicted, but definitely needed that V drip. But I'm like, 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: just rest, I'll door dash anything you need, if you 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: want some meds whatever. Do we have evidence that this 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: could be self inflicted? Antonia's part? Do you know about 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: her weekend? She said she did nothing this weekend. She 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: said they didn't see anybody. I think all her updates 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: I saw on her phone or her like at home resting. 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: So I think it is just it came on quick. 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Tanya, send her your well wishes. 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: I wish I could think of something funny for everyone 39 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: to send her a d M. So she's flooded with 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: d m s of like like it was a hullabaloo 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: without you or something. You know, whatever you're inspired by, 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Just let her know she was missed. Um, but I 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: am really excited because today we have Katie Lowe's back 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: in the o R. We talked to her. I think 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: it was it was a long time ago, and she's 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people. I still freak out if 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm like walking around where I live and I spot 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: her because she we live close to each other. So 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to talk to her. And I don't 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: know if there's anything I haven't watched Gray's now in years, 51 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: I haven't been home, so like I'm I think this week, 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: I have like a really chill week, so I really 53 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: want to catch up on Gray's Anatomy, And I don't 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: know if there is anything else that I'm missing out on. 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Just saying the two weeks ago when I really liked this, 56 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: last week I didn't like I felt like this last 57 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: week just felt like, um, they're just killing time. This 58 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: week felt like it's just here's forty more minutes and 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: let's get to the end of the season. That stresses 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: me out so much. I hate that, and I do 61 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: feel like that is the trajectory of Gray's Anatomy, which 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: is that was amazing. It felt like old Grays and 63 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, yeah, it wasn't great. Great, all right, 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: well I can't wait to catch up. All right, you guys, 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: we have a returning scrubbing in guests joining me today, 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: and I couldn't be more excited to have Katie Lows 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: scrubbing in. I'm scrubbing in, guys, I'm scrubbing in. Thanks 68 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: Becca for having me again. I feel so lucky. I know, 69 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, I I missed Tanya. And it's always like 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: when we have a guest, I really because you know, 71 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: sometimes with the guests we like bounce off of each other. 72 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: But I was like, I have Katie all to my 73 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: We're good, We're good, miss you, but we're good. But 74 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you so much. I'm so glad this 75 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: all like worked out so great. And I scrubbed in 76 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: and scrubs are on and hands are all Gray's Anatomy 77 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: et up or whatever doctor show is currently your God, 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: it is Crazytomy. But I'm so far behind because I 79 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: have been able to town so much that like, when 80 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm home, I haven't even thought about putting the TV on. 81 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm just like trying to do laundry. I'm in the 82 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: middle of Bridgerton oh, season two. Yeah, I'm in the 83 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: middle of Bridgerton because I got to support my Shonda 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: Land fam always. There's so many people who worked on 85 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: Scandal and then worked on Inventing Anna and now we're 86 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: working on Bridgerton. So it's like very in the family. Um, 87 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: so I love watching and seeing like what everyone's been 88 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: working on. But um, it's so good. I just got 89 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: to some steamy stuff and I'm in do it? Okay? 90 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Is it is steamy as the first? Oh? I know 91 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: that is that when I'm going around in the rounds. 92 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: That's sort of the thing that I've heard that people 93 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: like really missed the sort of very explicit or more 94 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: obsess sans from season one. But honestly, they're they're in 95 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: season two. It is you just what were they going 96 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: to do? They can't like it's like you have to 97 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know anything about I mean, 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't work on the show, but I I know 99 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: that the show is based in the books, and so 100 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't I haven't read the books, so I don't 101 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: know if like this brother's storyline isn't as Look, I 102 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: just got to some sexy stuff last night and it's coming, 103 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, like when it's coming, it's 104 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: just like a little bit more appropriate for the time. 105 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: I've almost would say, like like a brush of the 106 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: cheek is like a huge deal versus Season one, where 107 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: it was like and they're having X all over the place. 108 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: Can I be honest with you. I had a hard 109 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: time with season one because I really love those scenes, 110 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: Like I love like a love sex scene, but I 111 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: love the build up to those moments. So I kind 112 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: of felt like when I was watching season one, it 113 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: got to it so fast. I didn't even feel like 114 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: I got to long for it as long as I 115 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: want to do. Yeah, I get that, I get that, 116 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: I get that. I totally get that, well is going 117 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: to be your jam. Yeah. So I'm actually excited about 118 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: that aspect of it because there is something about the 119 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: waiting for it to happen that's really once you get 120 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: it done, then it's done, it's like, then what are 121 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: you gonna do? But it's like, yeah, this season too 122 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: definitely makes you work for it. There's like so many 123 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: close encounters. It's really like, yeah, you're you're got the 124 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: butterfly feeling for longer. See, I I love the butterfly feeling. 125 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: Because once you get this, once you get it all, 126 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: you're kind of like, now, what what is going to 127 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: fulfill me? Exactly exactly, exactly exactly. I think people are 128 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna love it. I mean the acting is so good, 129 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: the costumes are so beautiful. Yeah, it's it's really really good. 130 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: Um because most people, a lot of my friends been 131 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: binge watching Inventing Anna, but I don't need to do 132 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: You're like, I know what happened. I didn't have to 133 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: do that. Um so yeah, I'm on the Bridgton Kick now, 134 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: which is not doctors at all. I know, not doctors, 135 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: but you know, we do talk. It was the it 136 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: was the Foundation Member podcast, but it's not the everything 137 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: of our podcast. You know. We have branched out onto 138 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: other Yes, you have. Yes. I actually think last time 139 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: you were here we were I can't remember if you 140 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: had just finished filming Inventing Anna or you were signed 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: on too, Like when did y'all film that? Because that 142 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: was okay? So is when we talked, and that is 143 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, guys, this mom brain is hilarious. Um. 144 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 1: I shot half of Inventing Anna from November to March 145 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: of and then we got shut down because of COVID, 146 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: and then I got pregnant a week later with my daughter, 147 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: and then I didn't go back to shooting Inventing Anna 148 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: until March. So it took us a thousand years to 149 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: make that show because we did half of it pre 150 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: pandemic and half you know, once we sort of knew 151 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: how to work in a safe environment and how to 152 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: keep it all moving and shaking. And then plus they 153 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: pushed then all my scenes to be at the end 154 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: of shooting because I had a newborn in Shawnda Rhimes 155 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: is like the greatest human in about like maternity leave 156 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: and making sure I felt safe and all that. So 157 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: it was a long shoot and we didn't wrap until 158 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: March of whoa. Yeah, So when I watched the scenes, 159 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, who the hell is that? Like I feel 160 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: like a kind of completely different person, and scenes will 161 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: come up and I'll be like, holy crap, we shot that, 162 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: Like I don't remember. I mean, the Morocco episode is 163 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: really set in my mind because it was out in 164 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: Morocco and my son and Adam came and it was 165 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: such a memorable trip and it was our last like 166 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: big international trip before COVID and we got to shoot 167 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: in Law Mimmoria, which is the massive, ridiculously overpriced, insanely beautiful, 168 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: extravagant hotel where Annadelbie really cons Rachel Deloch Williams. Yes, 169 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: so we stayed in the actual hotel, but it's like, 170 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, a night for a riad or something. 171 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: It's insane. And I stayed in a suite that is 172 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: the most insanely ridiculous, incredible hotel place I've ever stayed in. 173 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: And the guest book is like, who was here before you? 174 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: It was like the Clinton's, Bradley Cooper, Paul McCartney, like 175 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: a million people. And I'm like, my kid is is 176 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: practicing on this party on the same pody. He'll never 177 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: forget it, I know. So those memories are all still there. 178 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm so happy with the way it turned out, though, 179 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: I really, I mean, my god, every time I'm like, 180 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: I mean, does Shauna rhymes just like not know how 181 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: to make a hit? I don't get it? Like she 182 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: is on the Pulse man. Yeah, it's kind of like 183 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: the more she it's you would think, the more she 184 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: makes like it gets less creative. But she just or 185 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: she's surrounding herself with people with really good ideas or 186 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: something like I just or like the fact that she knew, 187 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: like she optioned the rights to the article about inventing 188 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: Anna years ago and then for it to come out 189 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: like the week before the Dropout or the Tinder or 190 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: the Tinder Swindler, or you know, just like a lot 191 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: of stories about like things in a similar sort of world. 192 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: And I'm like, how sean to know what we want 193 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: and then give it to us? I don't understand, got 194 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: some inside scoop. No, it's crazy, it's so so, so, 195 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: so so crazy. Um, did you ever talk to Rachel 196 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: when you were going through the process of acting, Like, 197 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: have you ever talked to her since? Or more ever 198 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: talked to her. I've never met her. I'm fascinated by her, obviously, 199 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: and I in a really weird way. I like, I 200 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: love her like I love her, and I feel so um, 201 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: I empathized so much with her because I for a 202 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: long time while shooting the show, I had to just 203 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: put myself in her shoes, like somebody who trusted somebody, 204 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: or someone who became best friends with a sociopath, somebody 205 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: who didn't have sixty and then owned owed that and 206 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: was terrified. And so I feel so much for her, 207 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: but I never talked to her, And I think that 208 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: was really a good idea. I mean because a lot 209 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: of people working on Invntana did get to meet the 210 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: real life people they were playing and got to spend 211 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: a lot of time with them. And early on I 212 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: decided that Rachel was not um it wouldn't be helpful 213 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: for my performance. But also it's not like I was 214 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: playing Jackie. Oh. I wasn't playing someone that you all know. 215 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: You know their mannerisms, or they know how they dress 216 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: or talk or walk like that wasn't important. What was 217 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: important to me was I was really playing the part 218 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: that Shonda needed her to be for the story, right, 219 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: And I feel like Shawanda has such a good idea 220 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: of how she wants it to, like what she has 221 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: the outcome already in her head, so exactly, Look, that's right, 222 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: that's right. That's how I felt. I was like, everything 223 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: I need to know is pretty much in the script. 224 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean, look in today's day and age, I could 225 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: go Rachel was doing like a huge press tour for 226 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: her book, so I could go down like Google spirals 227 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: and I watched a bunch of interviews and I watched 228 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: some stuff and like saw how she talked and walked 229 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: a little bit, but then I really sort of let 230 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: it go and actually really more based her on somebody 231 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: I know, like personally, Oh jeez, you know it's kind 232 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: of weird. Is like the all these shows that have 233 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: come out are making me like examine all my friends 234 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: a little closely. I'm like, what are you up to 235 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: the same way I just saw someone do an interview 236 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna name who it is, and I was like, 237 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: they're lying, and I'm like, why do I think everybody's 238 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: a liar? And then I'm like, I think it's because 239 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: I just lived in like this space where someone could 240 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: be a con artist, you know what I mean, is 241 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: a pathological liar and doesn't like think that that's bad. 242 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: So now I'm constantly like, what is that real? Like 243 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just which was funny when Scandal started. 244 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: I the same thing happened, which was when I started 245 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: working on Scandal. Every time I saw something in the 246 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: news or something, I would be like, huh, I want 247 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: or if like something bad happened to a famous person, 248 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: I would be like, oh my god, they must have 249 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: hired a fixer. They had to have a fixer who 250 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: I still think like this, Yeah, like the narrative and 251 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: like making us see what they want us to see 252 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: because they're spinning it and they're spinning it and they're 253 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: under a clock. And like I I never thought that 254 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: way before scandal, and now I think like that all 255 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: the time. A scandal opened my mind to think that way. 256 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: So now every time anything happens on the news or 257 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: like someone's someone empoweredise, I'm like, look out, we don't 258 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: know the truth, and where's Olivia Pope? Somehow Olivia Pope? 259 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: That's right in our real life, you know there's yeah, 260 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: that's right. Well what are you? I mean you? I 261 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: feel like every time we talked to you, there's a 262 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: new project. You have a new show on CBS. Yes, 263 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Becca, it is Oh my gosh, everyone listening. 264 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: It would just means so much to me if you 265 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: watched this show and told all of your friends, because 266 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: I love this job that I watched and I just 267 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: wanted to last for so long. I love it. I 268 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, when I was little, the shows that were 269 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: always on in my household growing up were like Threes Company, Cheers, 270 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Everybody loves Raymond, King of queens like multicam sitcoms, and 271 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: when I was little, I mean, I was a real 272 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: theater nerd, and so I just assumed I was always 273 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: going to do theater. All I wanted to do is Broadway. 274 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: But if I thought about TV, my head would always 275 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: go to a sitcom mom or a sitcom wife or 276 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: something like that. And I love to be funny, and 277 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: it just never worked out that way. Like I moved 278 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: to l A and the first people who just gave 279 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: took a risk on me were always like a guest 280 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: star on n c I S or Law and Order 281 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: without a Trace, Gray's Anatomy, private Practice scandal. So I 282 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: ended up in this drama camp, which, do not get 283 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: me wrong, I absolutely love. But Shanda even knows like 284 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do a comedy and I've always 285 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: wanted to try, and it scares the crap out of me, 286 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: which means I have to do it, um, And so 287 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: when this one came along, I was chopping at the bit. 288 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Pete Holmes fan. He um wrote and 289 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: started the show Crashing on HBO. He's a stand up 290 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: comedian and he's a genius, like full on genius, and 291 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: I adore him. The whole cast is such heavy hitting 292 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: comedic actors, and I get to do it in front 293 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: of like a live audience, which I've never done. So 294 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: it like makes my theater nerd childhood self just like 295 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: so stoked. Like I go to work and I tell 296 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: jokes and I try to make people laugh like in 297 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: real time, and it's unlike anything I've ever done, and 298 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: it is the most fun. It's based in a true story. Um, 299 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: It's based on a true story. Pete Holmes plays this guy. 300 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: His name see two true stories this year, Anna Delvy. 301 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: The and How We Roll is based on a family 302 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: named the Smallwoods and Tom Smallwood. UM worked installing seatbelts 303 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: and cars for twenty years in Saginaw, Michigan, right outside 304 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: of Detroit. He gets laid off, but he'd always been 305 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: a great bowler, and his wife and his whole family 306 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: encourage him to take a risk and try to go pro. 307 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: And Tom Smallwood in real life is a world champion bowler, 308 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: and it's how he supports his family, and it's so 309 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: it's the show is about hope and chasing that dream 310 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: and like living your life and being like I've always 311 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: wanted to take a risk and try this, but I've 312 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: never been brave enough to do it, and I don't 313 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: know if I can. And then of course it's a sitcom, 314 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: so there's all these jokes along the way, and it's 315 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: I think it's again, like I think it's been such 316 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: a wild past couple of years, and it's so fun 317 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: to be part of a show that's like hilarious and 318 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: hopeful and fun, and like I get to go to 319 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: work and do that and come home and like I'm 320 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: not like going in like drilling kneecaps and then you know, 321 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: or like pretending to do the torture thing, which again 322 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: I love. It's pretty iconic, so iconic. I love it, 323 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: love love it. But it is nice to practice this 324 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: other thing that I've never done before. And and it's 325 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: really just such a great story and such a great 326 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, bowling is just such a great container for characters, 327 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Like when we're in the bowling alley, like everyone has 328 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: the bowling alley in their town or the few towns 329 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: over ever growing up that everybody had like a friend's 330 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: birthday party at or like people would go and they 331 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: would like serve underage people like a picture of beer, 332 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: like whatever your thing is, you know, or like your 333 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: curly fries or your chicken. But the characters that live 334 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: and breathe in a bowling alley and Saginaw, Michigan is 335 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: just so real and honest and fun and and so 336 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: it just really feels like, um, a great space for 337 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: a multicam to take place. Um, And it's like living. 338 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I get to be like 339 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: this to come wife mom. I always wanted to be back, 340 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: I know. And that's so cool because it's like I 341 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: always think on sitcoms where there's a sitcoms where there's 342 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: a live audience, like there is an element of performing, 343 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: like if you are someone who loves theater and Broadway 344 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: and having that adrenaline rush of performing in front of 345 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: a live audience. You don't get that filming TVs and 346 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: movies because and it's really different process. They run up 347 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: to you, like, have you ever been to a live 348 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: taping of a show? No, but they run we get 349 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: to run up to people. Oh my god, No, you 350 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: don't know that's they's ever heard? No, you will up. 351 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: But if you go to a live taping ever, and 352 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: you should come to one of mine, you'll see it's 353 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: so exciting. Like if you ever got to a lad 354 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: taping of When Friends Was on Her Side Feld or whatever, 355 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: you'll do a run of the scene in front of 356 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: the audience, and then any of the jokes that aren't 357 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: working and not getting great laughs, the writers will all 358 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: run in after one scene is shot and then give 359 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: all the actors alltlines that are like, okay, now change 360 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: the joke, Drop that joke, give it to this one. 361 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: So you're memorizing everything on the fly, and it's wild 362 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: and and it's like such adrenaline, and the audience is like, 363 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, well the actors be able to handle it? 364 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: Can they change the joke? And then you hit the 365 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: audience with a brand new joke that they've never heard 366 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: before that you just got one second ago, And then 367 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: the audience is like raucously laughing. And then that's the 368 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: joke they use in the edit that actually goes out, 369 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: you know, to the country. And then you mess up 370 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: and you curse and then they have to edit it out. 371 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: It's so exciting. I don't get the hell that's fun. 372 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm like so stressed. It's really stressful, and but you 373 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: know what, it's cool the time goes by in like 374 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: you're It's the same feeling I feel about theater, which 375 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: is before I step on stage, I always look around 376 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, why did I do this to myself? 377 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: This is so scary and so hard, and I'm just 378 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: putting myself out there to be judged, and like I 379 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: should just go home and crawl into a ball. And 380 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: I'm terrified. And then when you're there and you're doing it, 381 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: You're like, this is the greatest high and rush and 382 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: why I do what I do? And time just stops 383 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: and your real life worries stopped, because all you can 384 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: do is be in the present moment and focus on 385 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: exactly what's happening right in front of you. Everything just 386 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: gets really tunnel vision and excellent. And that's how you 387 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: work on a multiplayer. I can't imagine the failing of 388 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: being like a lead in a perfect like a Broadway performance, 389 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: because I was an extra in high school, you know, 390 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: and some of the play well done. Back I felt 391 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: like I was a main character, but I had zero 392 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: lines and I just simply would walk across the stage. 393 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: But the rush I got, I can't even imagine. Yeah, 394 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: it's exciting, I mean, it's just very like, it's very exciting, 395 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: and it's weird because I'm generally like I love being actor. 396 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, and actress probably say this all 397 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: the time, but I really do mean it. I'm not 398 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: really an attention. I feel kind of uncomfortable if I'm 399 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: me like my husband, who you know and loves attention. 400 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: This guy is and that's why I love being his wife. 401 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: And why because if you know us as a couple, 402 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: which you do, he's the star and it's such a 403 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: relief for me because I really take a back seat 404 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: in when we're in life. He likes to be really, 405 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just the light of the room and 406 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: just and I'm tired, so I just get to sit 407 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: back and watch him do his things. So it's great. 408 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: And again, I don't really like the attention. But when 409 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm playing a part, I feel kind of covered, like 410 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: I can, like h like, your side of me can 411 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: come out, but I have a shield up exactly exactly, 412 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. Um, so I'm comfortable doing it there, whereas 413 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: my husband's comfortable doing it anywhere. I was laughing because I, um, 414 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: we ran into you. I was with Haley and we 415 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: ran into you. And Adam and um, he was just 416 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: so excited and they worked together on cs I Cyber 417 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: and she was like he was just the nice She 418 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: was like, he has that energy and that kindness and 419 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 1: that charisma all the time, like no matter if we 420 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: were arriving at like four am, it was that was 421 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: an energy level. And she was like, he was just 422 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: so um made everything everyone feel like warm and comfortable. 423 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: He's just very very Oh it's such a gift and 424 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: the best thing ever that I got to marry that guy. 425 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: He's really just before him, I only dated like the 426 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: darkest most like I only dated actors my whole life. 427 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: I mean I think I went on a date with 428 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: one lawyer and I was born Oh my god. He 429 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: picked me up in a white Porsche convertible and I 430 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: was like, I am not impressed, Like I do not 431 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: care about this crap. I got in because I was 432 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: used to dating like broke ass artists. Okay, so I 433 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: get in and I'm so wored, Like it was just 434 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: so boring, and I never went on a date with 435 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: a person with a job again. And then, um, I've 436 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: only dated actors. But before Adam, they were all very 437 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: very moody, super dark, and I always kind of loved 438 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: it because I was sort of a glass I'm an optimist, 439 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: and so I thought it just made me more interesting 440 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: to be with someone who was like really sad, like 441 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: really cynical and like, you know, just woke up on 442 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: a glass I've empty person or whatever. And so when 443 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: I first dating Adam, I was like, well, this isn't 444 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: gonna work. I mean, this guy is too big, she's 445 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: too positive, like this is crazy, like this is too much, 446 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: and thank god it I don't know, but thank god 447 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: I didn't mess it up, because it's just been so 448 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: great to be with someone who's glass alful, like, who's 449 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: someone who like he just wakes up and he's psyched 450 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: to be here. Man Like he's just like really has 451 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: and look, of course he has down days and down 452 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: times and all of that that that is true, but 453 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: he inherently does look for the good in everybody and everything. 454 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: I can remember when he started the pretzel business. Okay, 455 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: he started this business, Shappy Pretzel. It's in l A. 456 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: During the pandemic. He started making Philisoft pretzels for our son, 457 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: and then all of his friends from Philly started picking 458 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: them up. And then I was co hosting with Ryan 459 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: Seacrest UM Live with Killy and Ryan and then Ryan 460 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: ate the pretzels on camera, and then all of a 461 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: sudden we had a business called Shappy Pretzel. My husband's 462 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: name is Adam Shapiro, but his nickname has been Shappy 463 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: his whole life. So Shappy Pretzels created. We've sold hundreds 464 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: of thousands of pretzels in the last year and now. UM. 465 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: But it was funny when we started it. This is 466 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: how glass half full and maybe stupid. I love you Adam. 467 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: That he is is that when we started the business, 468 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: it was out of our house, you know, as pandemic 469 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: people were starting, you know, all these side hustles, and 470 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: Adam was cooking process out of our house. And I 471 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: was six months pregnant and I was running pretzel orders 472 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: out of our kitchen onto the street where there was 473 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: lines of cars from ten am until two pm Monday 474 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: through Friday. UM, and we weren't letting anyone in the 475 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: house because of COVID, and I was pregnant and my 476 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: son was just watching television he was three. It was crazy. 477 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: But all of these scandal fans and people, God bless them, 478 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: had my address and my phone number, I mean Adam's 479 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: phone number to pick up their order and my address, 480 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: Like are we I would say to Adam, what are 481 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: we doing? And you know what he would say, Becca, 482 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: I'm stressed that I know, I know, but this is 483 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: classic Adam. He'd be like, heatie, We're putting out so 484 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: much good in the world, like nothing bad is going 485 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: to come back. And he was right, wow, I mean 486 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: maybe naive and maybe ridiculous. And since then we have 487 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: moved and it's all good and so it's fine, and 488 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: but literally nothing happen. He was like, I don't it's fine, 489 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Like this is all good karma, Like we're good, Like 490 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: we're helping people feel better during a total time, Like 491 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: people are eating salt and bread and butter and water 492 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: and they love it and it's making them feel good. 493 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: And I believe in us, and I believe that inherently 494 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: people are good and we're gonna be fine. And I 495 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: believe in our security cameras that I mean, can you 496 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: even believe this? Like I'm so paranoid about that. So 497 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: so I'm that's good. That's good. Though you should be. 498 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: You should be. There's some there's some like weirdos out there, 499 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: for sure. Um, but he's a very positive person. We've 500 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: been together. This is gonna be our tenth wedding anniversary 501 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 1: when coming up June. We've been married for ten years, 502 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: but we were together for six before we got married. 503 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow, so sixteen years. Can you believe that I'm 504 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: still so into it? Okay? I was gonna say so, 505 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: you said okay, because we were talking about like love 506 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: is so much deeper, like when you love someone, it's 507 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: like those I actually watched this video the other day 508 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: and it was this professor teacher talking about the difference 509 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: what in love versus two loves and like to be 510 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: with someone that you love and to cultivate that relationship 511 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: and cherish it and nurture it. And then but like, 512 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: do you you still like him? Like you still like 513 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: being around I really like him? Like we were at 514 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: a wedding on Saturday night and we were dancing and 515 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: just you know, making out, and I was like, yeah, 516 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: we really like each other, Like we really like each other. 517 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I mean, I'll be straight up, I'm with you. 518 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: All those dark, moody dudes I dated for Adam, I 519 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: was never faithful in a single relationship, like I never. 520 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: I was really not great at commitment, to be honest, 521 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: Like I fudged. I fudged it all the time. I 522 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: mean I was young and I was drunk and being 523 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: like but I just really didn't take things seriously. And 524 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: and then I mean, Adam's just I don't know, like 525 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: he's just really my person, Like he's really my person, 526 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: He's my family, my soul mate, my lover, my friend, 527 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: my everything. Like he's just really I know, we do 528 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: terrible self care. We are the worst ever at like 529 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: a date night. Never. I'm sorry, Like who is doing that? 530 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: I I'm so happy for you guys, but I don't 531 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: know what that is. Um, but did you do it 532 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: before you had kids? Did you do date nights? No? 533 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I can't really remember. But like 534 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: he definitely pushed me in the pantry like free days 535 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: ago for like a makeout session, but like whatever, like 536 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: we're good, like I don't you know, like and you 537 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: get things really eban flow like I just think, like, 538 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: like I remember someone telling me Adam and I got together. 539 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: I was like twenties five or something, and I remember 540 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: some woman being like, wait till your sex drive and 541 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: you'r late thirties and I was like, that's not true, 542 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't believe it, but I'm just saying, like 543 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: you don't know, Like I don't know what Adam and 544 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: I are gonna be like when we're fifty. It's it's 545 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: kind of exciting, like it's just very like um, but 546 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: life is just better with him in it. I also 547 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: think what's cool about our lives and our jobs is 548 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: that we are very very I don't know how you like, 549 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: we're just very independent and so like we have to 550 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: shoot far away from each other at times, like we're 551 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: a unit, and we definitely do have learned from a 552 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: lot of friends about that long distances like a non 553 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: negotiable for us, Like we see each other every two weeks, 554 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: come hell or high water, like absolutely not. And once 555 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: you have kids, it's even more so, Like he Um 556 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: is very very involved dad, but Um, but I think 557 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: it's good that we are not up each other's asses 558 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: like all day online, Like I've like he's in northern 559 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: California right now recording a video game, but like I 560 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: don't know where he is, Like you know what I mean, 561 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: Like I we're not like that, Like I don't keep tabs, 562 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: I trust him in no shared location, no, like I 563 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: don't who was doing that safety I did have my 564 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: he was that's right, he was shooting in Budapest. And 565 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: I was like, all of a sudden, I got like 566 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: a thought like if he fell in the shower and 567 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: hit his head, I don't know anyone over there, Like 568 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't know his production head, I don't know, like 569 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: he's living alone, like and I'm just like, oh my god, 570 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: Like this is interferent. And I started to get really bad, 571 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: like panic attack, like who would call like all this 572 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: whole team. I'm like, does anyone know his address? Like 573 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: I just have a bad feeling. I need someone to 574 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: knock on his door. He was fine, but um, but yeah, 575 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: I guess that's why people would have locations on huh. 576 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean there are people who take it 577 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: to the extreme of like invading space, but I do 578 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: like the safety aspect of it to avoid, you know, 579 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: intrusive thoughts such But that was those like sneak up too, 580 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: and they they like fully make you think that your 581 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: gut I just had this conversation about the difference between 582 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: your gut instinct versus paranoia and how to identify it 583 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: because they feel the same. And if you have a 584 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: good gut instinct and intuition and an intrusive thought comes in. 585 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: If you're used to trusting your gut in it's telling 586 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: you that something bad is happening, you trust it and 587 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: then you find out that there was no reason to panic, 588 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: and then you're like questioning your into you know, That's 589 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: what I do. So I think if it's a gut reaction, 590 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: then you won't it won't be surrounded with anxiety. I 591 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: think good all right. I think anxiety might be the 592 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: the feeling that it's not from your gut, like it 593 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: might be from another place or some sort. But I 594 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: talked about in therapy, you're really on the right track, 595 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes new career if I'm not even charging you. 596 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, I believe. I think love in love versus love, 597 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, well, I think both can 598 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: co exist. Yeah, it depends on the week. It just 599 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: really I am excited. Like our temp anniversary, it was 600 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: so funny. I really talking about what are we gonna do? 601 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: What we're gonna do, And my initial reaction was like, 602 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: we have to go somewhere with the family, because like 603 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: I hate leaving the kids and love to be with them. 604 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: And then I was like, we should really do something 605 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: by ourselves, shouldn't we We should really do something by ourselves. Like, 606 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: but I get so like now I'm like, oh my god, 607 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: like can we leave the Like can we go to Mexico? 608 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: Just he and I? Of course we can, Like we 609 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: can do that, right, yeah you can? Um, but see, 610 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: my anxiety is like, but what happens if like the 611 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: airspace they're like we're not allowing flights back to Mexican, 612 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, like I don't know what up. It's like, 613 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like you know, there's like I make 614 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: stuff up. And ever since COVID it sort of got 615 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: worse because I remember when COVID started and I was 616 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: in l A and my son and Adam were in 617 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: New York, and I was getting these texts that were 618 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: not true. But my agent was like, they're going to 619 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: stop letting people in and out of New York. Do 620 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: you remember this? It wasn't true, but I just started 621 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: having I've never felt so far away and so scared 622 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: um And so now I think, like, oh God, Ken, 623 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: Adam and I just go to Mexico with up the kids. 624 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: But it's like, yes, yeah, you can do that. That's 625 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: a quick two hour flight. If you go to Cambo. 626 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: You're just right there essentially, right there, were fine, that's fine, 627 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: Like you got like, like my my new thing that 628 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: I walked past in our neighborhood is that there's a 629 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: bumper store that says, this isn't your practice life. Oh wow, 630 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 1: it's not your practice life. This is it? It really 631 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: is people. You know, this isn't like a practice try it. 632 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: This is like what you get to do, so you 633 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: should do it. What's your next? Like, what do you want? 634 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you have a podcast, you're doing this show, 635 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: You're doing multiple shows all across the GAMA, You're doing theater. 636 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: What do you What are your like dreams? What's something 637 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: that you've always been scared to do and that you 638 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: would look to do scared? Wow? Becca, you are really 639 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: rocking my world right now. I don't think anyone's asked 640 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: me that in so long. Wow, I should be paying 641 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: you now. This is a great therapy session. Oh my god. Well, 642 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: and you know what, it's a big year. Excuse my language, 643 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: but like I'm we're having our tenth wedding anniversary, Untie, 644 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: and I'm turning forty on September, and so I have 645 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: been and we just all had COVID. Oh no, I'm sorry, No, no, no, 646 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: it actually was. It was thank god our cases were mild. 647 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: But it was a real um moment of like asking 648 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: myself what you're just asking me? Because I spent seven 649 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: adam my husband was in Budapest shooting and so I 650 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: was alone, was set for seventeen days with my two kids, 651 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: which I've never done in my life. I didn't see 652 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: a single other adult. Um, and I got it and 653 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: the kids got it and we were all fine and 654 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: the symptoms were not you know, it was a old cough, 655 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: but it was nothing scary, thank god. Um. But I 656 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: was asking myself a lot, like what am I doing? 657 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: And what do I want to do? And like what 658 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: is the this is so cool. I've wanted to do 659 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: a sitcom, you know. I've wanted to do a cool 660 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: streaming show that's like so cool and everyone wants to 661 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: be a part of it a lot. It's inventing Anna. 662 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to leave the mom on a sitcom, 663 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: and that's how we roll on CBS Thursday nights. And 664 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: then I have a theater company that I run in 665 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, UM and a podcast that I love and 666 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: selfishly used to ask every single time I mess up 667 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: in the mom's space, I like find the expert or 668 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: the celebrity that knows about mom stuff that can come 669 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: on and teach me how to do it better. UM. 670 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: So I think my answer is I don't know. Well, 671 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: you've done a lot. I mean that's what I'm saying, 672 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: sort of looking at the universe, like what is this chapter? 673 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: What is this chapter look like? I mean, I know, 674 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: I think I really do. Fact, it's been a real 675 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: long time since I've gotten back to anything selfish like 676 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: at all. So I think there's some of that what 677 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: do you consider selfish? Like what is when you say that? What? 678 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: What is that shouldn't be selfish? It really should. But 679 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, yeah, it's like it's like definitely getting 680 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: back to me in terms of like like I've been 681 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: breastfeeding for a year and a half before her, I 682 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: breastfed my son, Like my body has not been my 683 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: own in over four years, and so I think there's 684 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: some part of me that really needs to Like when 685 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: I say selfish, I mean like it's okay to mm hmm. 686 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: Put back in things I used to love, like a 687 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: spat a with your girlfriends at the Korean Spa, like 688 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: having a workout routine that's expensive, that you like and 689 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: that you enjoy, and like, um, I just have really 690 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: taken that stuff out of my life, like hardcore. Um 691 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: yesterday or last week, I got my first pedicure in 692 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: like forever, and they had to use that machine to 693 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: like saw off my heels because it looked like a 694 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: cave person. Like if people knew what a CBS lead 695 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: of a sitcom actress in Hollywood actually looks like stars. 696 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: They're not like you. They're not they're words or me 697 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: I am, I am there words like the are crustier 698 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: than yours. Oh yeah, no, Like I should post a 699 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: photo people, people would people would be upset. It's I 700 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: texted it to a few friends and family members that 701 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: were absolutely horrified, like like for real, um So, there's 702 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: there's some that where it's like the mom guilt is 703 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: a real thing and and it's the first thing that 704 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: goes for me. Um So, I think that on the horizon, 705 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: there's like a I think there's time, there's like there's 706 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: like this new I have to figure out where I 707 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: fit um in my life like it's weird or like 708 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: there's just a part of you that's more selfish before 709 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: you have children, because you can still be the priority 710 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: in your life, like you are the number one, and 711 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: then you have kids and you're really not you know, 712 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: like you don't do anything where you're not also thinking 713 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: about them. It's really weird. Um. So I think there's that. 714 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: There's travel and as far as like career and artistry, 715 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: like I think you, I think you're I think you 716 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: don't really want to again? I mean always who doesn't 717 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: say I would really like to do something? Aushanda again, 718 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: I really want to do something. I want to do something. 719 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 1: Everyone always asks me what I watch, and I only 720 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: watch period like I only watch Outlander, Spanish, Queen White, 721 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: Queen Red, Queen Britain, Gilded Age if it has like 722 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: a corset and address and like that world I'm watching 723 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: it never get to do it. So I would like 724 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: to try Bridgertain season three. I don't th think higher know. 725 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: I told them a million times, but I don't think, 726 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: oh please, I had them all unlock. I say it 727 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: all the time. I don't think they can hire any Americans. 728 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: I think, um, whatever their work. I don't know. I 729 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: don't know that for a fact, so I'm not saying 730 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: something that's fact. But I think that there is some 731 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: sort of union. I don't know. But everyone's British. There's 732 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: not been anyone America on these two years, so I 733 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: don't know if it's because their local hires because they 734 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: know our British accents are shite. I don't know. But um, 735 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: I think I'd like to do Broadway again. I'd like 736 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: to do a play. Um, I want to travel. I 737 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: don't have travel, so great travel is the best. It's 738 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: the best. It's the freaking and traveling with your family, 739 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: like I don't know, um, if you're close with your family. 740 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: But I think there's also this, you know, Adam and 741 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: I are kind of in this pocket with our kids, 742 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: um where on wood like our parents are still able 743 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: bodied and of age to help and and and traveling 744 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: is hard, Like it's wonderful, but it's stressful to take people, 745 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: especially older people, out of their routine, you know. And 746 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: so we're still and they can do that, and so 747 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,959 Speaker 1: it's it's it's really a priority of mine to see 748 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 1: places in the world and help my parents see things 749 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: that they haven't seen. Um, so there's a lot of that, 750 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: and you know, how we roll, hopefully it's on for 751 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: a decade and mating a decade. Were manifesting how we 752 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: roll with a hiatus of three or four months to 753 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: go do a really sassy, amazing period cool piece with 754 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: Shonda Rhymes, and then tons of time off where I'm 755 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: taking the family on trips and spending some alone trips 756 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: with Adam and then figuring out how to get a 757 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: facial here and there and keeping those heels nice and 758 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: some me. My mom said to me, she was like, 759 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: you have to get your feet fixed every like six weeks, 760 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: like it's not negotiable, like every four weeks like, And 761 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I know, I don't know why. 762 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: I just can't sit there. I can't. It really is there. 763 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: It's a luxury, but it's also it's like it is 764 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: a commitment. I have a hard time sometimes getting my 765 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: nails done because you have nails, Like, how long does 766 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: that take these? Well, I normally do my own press 767 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: on's honestly, so those don't those are quick, but these 768 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: are these These took a second. But I normally just 769 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: do my own because I get impatient sitting at the 770 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: nail salon. But um, it is. It's a luxury, but 771 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: it's also a commitment. It is it's just like a 772 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: lot of time. And yes it's expensive and amazing and whatever, 773 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: but like, this is what my nails look like. Listen, 774 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm not dealing with If I was like picking noses 775 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: and dealing with children, I would not. Yeah, I have 776 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: so much cool, but it's just like I can't. And honestly, 777 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: anytime I've had nails, I scratch somebody and then they 778 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: cry and I'm like, well, this is just not worth it. 779 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: Like this is chaos. It's not worth it. Okay, yeah, 780 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: this it's not worth it. I'm like putting lotion on 781 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: my daughter's space, you know, because she has like an 782 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: allergic ragage or something, and then I like scratch her eye. 783 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: Not So it sounds like professionally, you've done pretty much 784 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: everything you're scared to do and what want to do. 785 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: But it sounds like the scary stuff for you is 786 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: is personal stuff that is labeled as selfish, which is 787 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,959 Speaker 1: I know, I look so I just don't think people 788 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: acknowledge that sometimes the scary thing isn't a work thing, 789 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: like sometimes it doesn't always revolve around your career or 790 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: what you're doing, because a lot of people put so 791 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: much pressure on themselves in that area. But there's always 792 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: areas where it feels scary to do something unfamiliar one 793 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: and like my work, like I'm lucky, my work is 794 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: challenging me, Like I feel really lucky at thirty nine 795 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: years old to be doing something that's like like this 796 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: show How We Roll is just a total left turn 797 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: from what I'm used to. Like if I had gone 798 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: from I mean, inventing Anna was super nerve wracking. I've 799 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: never played a real person before. I got to do 800 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: scenes with Julia Garner and Laverne Cox, so like people 801 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: who are just such titans in their in their field 802 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: and like such amazing actors. Um And if I had 803 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: gone onto doing like a procedural or a show that 804 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: was like a drama, it wouldn't have felt um intimidating. 805 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: But this is How We Roll. I mean, I was 806 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm petrified every week because everyone else is so funny, 807 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: and I'm like, am I funny? Like do people think 808 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: I'm funny? Did I land that joke? Did I not 809 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: let that joke? Did I mess up? Like, you know, 810 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a total new muscle that I don't know well. 811 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: So I do feel like I'm working out my fear 812 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: career fears or goals in my current job, which is awesome. Yeah, 813 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: I love that, And I to be honest, I do 814 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: what I think of you, even though I know all 815 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: of your roles have been dramatic. When I think of Quinn, 816 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: there's there is this element of funny that came with Quinn, 817 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: even though everything else is so dark. That's right, well, 818 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: because they found really early on they would give I 819 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: mean I remember, like the table reads for Scandal. I 820 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: always got huge laughs because Sean is so brilliant even 821 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: though it's a drama. You know, she puts in you know, 822 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: I can remember us like doing these torture scenes or whatever, 823 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: but she would always put in these like weirdly messed 824 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 1: up or like hilarious joke lines. Um, you know that 825 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: weren't like necessarily ha ha multicam funny, but it's like 826 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: dark comedy, which she's what she knows what she's doing. 827 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: She's relieving the stress of the situation, which is also 828 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: part of a really great writer's job, you know. Um, 829 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: So maybe I want to do a dark comedy with 830 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: Shawanda Shawna rhymes. If you're listening having a dark comedy, 831 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: let's do a dark Let's do a full dark comedy. 832 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: It's out there. Now we've said it's that's it, it's happening. 833 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: We've done. It's fully happening. And I want to go 834 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: on a big trip with my family for my fortieth birthday, 835 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: and um, I want to go on on a loane 836 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: sexy trip with my husband that I feel good in 837 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: a bathing suit. God see, I would love to take 838 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: a sexy beach vacation with my husband, but I don't. 839 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: I hate bathing suits and sunshine and sunscreen. I tried, 840 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: I did. I ordered a bunch of swimsuits ourday and 841 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: tried them on, and afterwards I was like, I opened 842 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: my cabinet and there was cheetahs and I was like, 843 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: I just need to take that edge off of that 844 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: experience and hilarious to CHAOSA I'm upset about. I also 845 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: feel like with bathing suits now, like there's such chic 846 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 1: options that aren't a string bikini. Like to be honest, 847 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: like there really are, Like don't let that be the 848 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: thing that makes it so that you can't enjoy your 849 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: beach vacation like I love along, I hate sunscreen and 850 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't like getting spots. And just like I love 851 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 1: a long sleeve swimsuit like I love it, I love 852 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: us wrong, I love a cover up, I love a 853 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: spray tan. All of these are held up. Also, don't yeah, 854 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: don't let the fear of this is to the audience. 855 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: Don't let the bikini stop you from your sexy DK. 856 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Also, I've never gotten it's really cool, like, 857 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: um god, it's really just been such a huge um 858 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: it's weird, like How We Roll, which just premiered on 859 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: at the time of this recording Thursday night. Uh, but 860 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: it was very close to after i'd had the baby 861 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: when we started, and so I wasn't let's say, at 862 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: my ideal weight, like whatever whatever that is. And I 863 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: just watched it, and I've never gotten more compliments on 864 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: people just and I usually try not to pay attention, 865 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: but I had a lot of like family members and 866 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: friends just saying that they thought I looked really nice, 867 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: and so it was like really like wow, like we 868 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: got to get out of our own way. So yeah, 869 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: don't let the bikini stop you from the sexy bikini vacation. 870 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: It's true. We do have to get out of our 871 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: own way. That's like we're always in our own way. 872 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: It's rarely anyone else that's in our way. No, like 873 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,959 Speaker 1: every I've never gotten more like and I was like wait, 874 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: really like I still have probably like ten or fifteen 875 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: pounds to lose. And everyone was like you look like 876 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 1: people were like so um complimentary, and I was so like, wow, 877 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm like that's crazy, Like I I don't know. We 878 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: forget to numbers. Isn't everything. Numbers isn't everything. It's true, 879 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 1: and we if we saw ourselves how other people view us, 880 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: which is everything about us, our personalities or chrisma, how 881 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 1: we how we treat people, we would be so hard 882 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: on ourselves. It's very true. So well, I love you. 883 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: I just think you're the greatest. I think you're the greatest. 884 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't know where you live now, but I do 885 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: know that. I got so excited when we ran into 886 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: that day and I was like, wow, I'm still very 887 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: close to you. We're still in the stand. Yes, When 888 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, Patie and I are 889 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: friends because like we saw each other and it was 890 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: like we had our mask on, but we was like, okay, yeah, 891 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: if you would have told me, just like, however long 892 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: ago was that I was watching Scandal, just like obsessed 893 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: that I would have that moment in this moment. I'm 894 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 1: just a big fan of you. So I I'm a 895 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,280 Speaker 1: big fan of you. Everything that you want to happen 896 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: to happen for you. So thank you, Becca, Thank you 897 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: so much for making time, and thank you for everyone listening. 898 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 1: Tune into how we Roll, how we roll, tell your friends, 899 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: how your family, catch up on inventing Anna, all of 900 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 1: those things, all of the things you want to hear 901 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: about mom stuff you want to laugh. Do you feel 902 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: alone as a mom and you're just like, oh gosh, 903 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: help Katie's crib um. Thank you so much for having 904 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 1: me on. Thanks you for scrubbing, scrubbing in now I'm 905 00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: scrubbing out well into there, Bye ba bye. Thanks Katie. H.