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Speaker 1: Good mornings were and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Wednesday, December seventeenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: me as always.

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Speaker 2: Taskmelus Basketball Lovers podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby,

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Speaker 1: a hey yo and over yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: Super producer jd.

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Speaker 1: We are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hit the like button,

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Speaker 1: subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna throw some thumbs in the up down Report

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Speaker 1: and maybe Jalen Brunson's bum bum in the updown Report. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to you and what heart was up to

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Speaker 1: with Brunson there. I immediately thought of you and your

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Speaker 1: wife me too. In the updown Report. We got some

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Speaker 1: raptors involved in some trade rumors. We've got some owners

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Speaker 1: responding to fans' emails, and there's a more info I

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Speaker 1: guess on the shocking Chris Paul Clippers divorce from a

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Speaker 1: while back. But first Trey already did it. Salute to

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Speaker 1: the Cup. Last night's NBA Cup Final was a blast.

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Speaker 1: We had a fifteen to three run to start the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, which powered the Knicks to the one twenty four,

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Speaker 1: one thirteen victory over the Spurs to secure the third

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Speaker 1: annual NBA Cup. Let's get into this game, your big takeaways.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the NBA Cup in general a little

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Speaker 1: bit later in the show, what works, what doesn't, what

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Speaker 1: we should switch up, But the game and the Knicks

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Speaker 1: winning the Cup.

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Speaker 2: Would you think, well, you mentioned that fifteen to three

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Speaker 2: round in the fourth quarter was all produced by the

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Speaker 2: Knicks bench. It obviously starts with Jalen Bronson and the

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Speaker 2: effort he was showing on both ends. He was getting

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Speaker 2: in the way. On the defense end, he was diving

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Speaker 2: out of bounds, so it starts with him. But in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, surprisingly, those guys off the bench, starting

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Speaker 2: with Mitchell Robinson and who was the perfect matchup for

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Speaker 2: Victor Wemanyam coming off the bench. That just worked out

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Speaker 2: extremely well. That guy grabbed ten offensive rebounds. It's funny

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Speaker 2: when you look at the box score. This guy played

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Speaker 2: what eighteen minutes, He grabbed five defensive but ten offensive

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Speaker 2: boards in those eighteen minutes. He matched him perfectly, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: literally blow for blow, you'd say that Mitchie had a

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Speaker 2: more impactful game as good as Wemby is. He was

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Speaker 2: setting up Josh Hart for those not Joshart, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Clarkson for those big threes in the fourth quarter monstrous,

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Speaker 2: And I thought those big splash threes from Jordan Clarkson

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Speaker 2: coming off the bench were big. His defense, though, really

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Speaker 2: really important. He's guarding the ball handler and a pick

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Speaker 2: and roll. He's able to recover and steal a pass

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Speaker 2: inside and then block a shot in that fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: when they're able to go on that run. Who knew

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Speaker 2: that was happening. That kept like twenty six minutes off

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Speaker 2: the bench. A signing in the offseason we didn't talk

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Speaker 2: about at all because we just okay, he's coming to

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Speaker 2: join the bench, Malcolm Brogen's going to be there, Dudce

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Speaker 2: McBride's going to be there, Malcolm Brogen's retired, Dude McBride's hurt.

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Speaker 2: This guy comes off and plays extremely well. And then

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Speaker 2: the other guy, Tyler Kohlik, who you didn't like when

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Speaker 2: we said, people were saying he looks like Steve Nash

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Speaker 2: out there, man, the guy just balling out there, getting

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Speaker 2: in Wemby's way when he had to. That bump was

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Speaker 2: really key to see Wemby come down the floor and

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Speaker 2: him participating. As I said, the Mitchell Robinson versus Wemby

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Speaker 2: matchup was really important that they got to match up

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Speaker 2: so perfectly and Wemby coming off the bench. It just

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Speaker 2: got to play twenty five minutes and that obviously works

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Speaker 2: out well. I know we didn't really think about it

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Speaker 2: that way when we saw them beat Okay.

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Speaker 3: See, but he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Get to play a ton of minutes, and he.

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Speaker 2: Obviously didn't have all with him in this game, even

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Speaker 2: though he was jumping off the starters. But after the game,

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Speaker 2: as he mentioned, he did lose his earlier in the day,

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Speaker 2: so maybe he wasn't there totally giving every single second

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Speaker 2: of every single minute he was trying out there. But

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Speaker 2: he was a little obviously overcoming everything he was overcoming.

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Speaker 2: So we just saw a very very deep next team.

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Speaker 2: Something I don't think we would always say about this team,

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Speaker 2: but this team led by Brunson, it trickles down man.

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Speaker 4: We definitely didn't say it last year, and that was

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Speaker 4: one of the big changes for the Knicks. Was bringing

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Speaker 3: Offense a little bit and a little bit of a mandate.

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Speaker 4: It felt like from the Knicks to use your bench

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Speaker 4: more so to get these kind of performances from Clarkson

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Speaker 3: Had a nice layup as well. Was actually helping on

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Speaker 4: Tyler Kollik, the cup riser, he just made play after

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Speaker 4: play after play. It was an extra pass. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 4: helping on the glass. He had that tip out on

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Speaker 4: the ogn andob three pointer from the left wing, a

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Speaker 4: couple of saves under the basket, took some charges. I

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Speaker 4: was racking my brain all last night. Who does this

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Speaker 4: guy actually remind me of? It ain't Steve Nash. Steve

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Speaker 4: Nash never raised a cup. But I was also like,

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Speaker 4: I can't just think of a white guy. You can't

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Speaker 4: do it right. Be better not to come up with anybody.

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Speaker 4: But I woke up in the morning and I had

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Speaker 4: the answer. Derek Fisher. Okay, when he gets inside, he's

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Speaker 4: not trying to score. Okay, he's trying to make a

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Speaker 4: pass to the outside. He's given it on the defensive end.

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Speaker 4: He's not your main ball handler. Even though he is

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Speaker 4: a point guard, he plays off the ball. Fisher is

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Speaker 4: a better outside shooter. But Kolic had it going last night,

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Speaker 4: but tast nail that offensive rebounding really won the game

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Speaker 4: last night for the Knicks. Twenty one offensive rebounds, thirty

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Speaker 4: two second chance points. At one point, Iron Eagle is

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Speaker 4: joking with Stan Van Gundy. You come to the arena

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Speaker 4: and you want to see offensive rebounding, and Stan was, yes,

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Speaker 4: me too, Stan.

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Speaker 1: I thought about us sharing rebound highlights sometimes sometimes on

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Speaker 1: social media, it's like, oh, maybe Stan follows this.

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Speaker 3: They're killers.

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Speaker 4: The two passes out to Clarkson were major momentum plays

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Speaker 4: for the Knicks. You mentioned Mitchell Robinson ten in eighteen minutes.

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Speaker 4: I wonder how many of those came on the same possession.

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Speaker 4: There was one in the first half where he had

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Speaker 4: like four just going at Victor. This to me was

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Speaker 4: reminiscent of when the Knicks beat the Calves in the

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Speaker 4: first round of the playoffs in the twenty twenty three playoffs.

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Speaker 3: It was like an early go through for the Calves.

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Speaker 4: At that point they looked a little bit inexperienced, and

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Speaker 4: the Knicks looked like they could out tough the Calves

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Speaker 4: back then. I thought that's exactly what happened last night.

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Speaker 4: Towns didn't play like a great game, but I thought

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Speaker 4: he played tough. I thought he played pretty smart. He

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Speaker 4: played physically for sure, So between him and Robinson beating

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Speaker 4: it up on the glass, they just looked like the

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Speaker 4: veteran team out there doing what it takes to win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just to add to that, you guys are giving love,

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so, to the Knicks bench, who like changed

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Speaker 1: the game in the fourth quarter. Especially when you look

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Speaker 1: at the first three quarters, it was the Spurs bench

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Speaker 1: having the edge thirty seven to fifteen for the backups

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Speaker 1: for the Spurs up until that fourth quarter, and.

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Speaker 3: Then it flips to the Knicks eighteen to eight.

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Speaker 1: But og Ananobi kept the Knicks sort of in the

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Speaker 1: game in the first halfs especially, he had twenty points

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Speaker 1: right at the break, had that crazy basket where it's

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Speaker 1: like he got blocked by Cornett, but then og just

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Speaker 1: continued to power through it and almost like slap tipped

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Speaker 1: And then in the third quarter, I thought, when the

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Speaker 1: Knicks were in danger of maybe being run out of

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Speaker 1: the gym by the young Spurs. I thought Kat midway

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Speaker 1: through that third quarter, he kept him attached just enough.

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Speaker 1: And that was even when Wemby did have his best

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Speaker 1: part of the game, right, because he had that good

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Speaker 1: quarter where he had a couple Alu finishes, hit a

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Speaker 1: couple of threes, had that jumper over Mitchell Robinson's like,

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Speaker 1: oh okay, here we go. Maybe the Spurs are going

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Speaker 1: to run away with this. But because of Og in

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Speaker 1: the first, because of Cat there in the third, and

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Speaker 1: then a lot of brunts in the captain you could

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Speaker 1: get then too, Wow, Jordan Clarkson, Tyler Kohlik and then

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson who had he had four offensive rebounds to

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Speaker 1: start the fourth quarter. Yeah, and two, like you said,

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Speaker 1: resulted in Clarkson threes that got them the lead and

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Speaker 1: then they never relinquished it. So everybody contributed. Now the

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Speaker 1: queue will be ken. These reserves, like these three guys,

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Speaker 1: can they help the Knicks obviously win a bunch of

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Speaker 1: playoff series and uh jad, I think he got a

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Speaker 1: Google doc up on our on our monitor here. Can

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Speaker 1: they help them in an actual run to the championship.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to do it in Vegas in a

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Speaker 1: couple of elimination games. I'm playing great.

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Speaker 3: Now they're gonna have to do it a lot more

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Speaker 3: times in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: What was Brunson's catchphrase that he said postgame in the

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Speaker 2: In the interview, he said that this is the phrase

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Speaker 2: that we're going to go by. You said, can they

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Speaker 2: get there? You know, through the regulation through the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: He said the catchrayse that we're gonna go My damn,

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Speaker 2: what is it? He literally said it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he showed a lot of love to those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. First said, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, can I say this before I answer

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Speaker 2: your question Taylor, And he literally just said the four

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Speaker 2: guys uh including og plus the three guys that we mentioned,

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Speaker 2: that we'll take them there because, as I said, he

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Speaker 2: leads the way with his heart, with his uh tenacity,

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Speaker 2: he leads the way. I do wonder Mitchell Robinson coming

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Speaker 2: off the bench. I thought, coming into this season, Michael

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Speaker 2: Mike Brown was going to be there for these reasons,

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Speaker 2: play the bench more, no doubt, get Brunton off the

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Speaker 2: ball a little bit more. That has happened, and I

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Speaker 2: thought Mitchell Robinson would be starting with Karl Anthony Touts

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Speaker 2: totally wrong. About that Mitch Robson coming off the bench.

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Speaker 2: First of all, he's always been a guy who does

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Speaker 2: get injured. This preserves his body a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: But also when you have og, let's start with him

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Speaker 2: plus mcalbridge is plus Josh Hart giving all that heart

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Speaker 2: in the offensive and that starting lineup, I should say,

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Speaker 2: then you don't need every single minute of Mitchell Robinson

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Speaker 2: being able to take some of the weight off of

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Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Town's shoulders. And that's why I thought he'd

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Speaker 2: be starting more. I thought we'd see more Gershan Yabuselih's

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Speaker 2: just sitting out there and just hanging out off the

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Speaker 2: bench because they're so deep right now with Kat playing

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Speaker 2: extremely hard. I mean Kat got in we Minyam's way

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Speaker 2: when he had to and he went to the bench

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Speaker 2: because he was banged up and holding his lower leg

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Speaker 2: because of it. But the depth is showing through. And

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Speaker 2: here we are going into this part of the season

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Speaker 2: where the knickser skyrocketing in the Eastern Conference standings. It

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Speaker 2: seems like that's going to be their spot and we'll

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Speaker 2: see how they can do this going into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: But it feels like these guys are ready whatever Jalen Brunts'

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Speaker 2: catchphrase is whatever it is that.

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Speaker 3: It's there to get them to keep them going. I

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Speaker 3: didn't write it down. I missed this catch found a

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Speaker 3: way to win.

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Speaker 4: What he said, I don't know that's a suggestion from

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Speaker 2: It might be Patches a Loja, but it's basically the

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Speaker 4: I thought the Spurs blew the lead when Wemby was

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Speaker 2: Those muscles have become way more defined and bigger, and

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Speaker 2: he somehow missed them, he made up for with other ones.

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Speaker 3: But a lot of it a lot.

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Speaker 2: go on, he ain't playing twenty five minutes, right, He's

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Speaker 1: Any other takeaways from either of these teams in particular players,

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Speaker 4: But Jalen Brunson got the MVP, went for thirty three points,

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Speaker 4: the last night he had a fast breakway layup where

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Speaker 4: he actually looked fast. Yeah, I never known that. That's

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Speaker 4: Dwyane Wade couldn't believe it. Yeah, I thought that was

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Speaker 4: pretty hard, Like stand bank there, like that was Jalen

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Speaker 2: Then they replay it for us and because it's a

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, but I thought that was pretty funny.

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Speaker 3: I think he's deserved MVP.

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Speaker 4: If it was a one gamer, definitely OG would have

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Speaker 3: But brunt And was pretty solid as well.

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Speaker 4: You know, he had a big bucket getting around Fox

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Speaker 3: He was really good.

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Speaker 4: He's the leader of their team and he was playing

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Speaker 4: it pretty cool at the celebrations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he was like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: This is nice, but this doesn't mean nearly as much

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Speaker 3: But still.

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Speaker 4: I also liked the story Dwayne Wade told about Jordan

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was funny. That was to replicate the idea

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Speaker 3: I guess let's go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great excuse if you don't want to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is how I do it. In

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Speaker 2: I think I believe this is correct that he's seventh

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Speaker 2: they had to start him. I know he would be

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You could see Jaylen Brunson as far as him accepting everything,

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Speaker 2: you know, trying to here's here's the trophy cat you

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Speaker 2: There was one vote for ogn and Obi amongst the

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Speaker 3: Well everybody else fair. Yeah, he deserves one Hub Brown

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Speaker 2: For Yeah, exactly, Steve mcgeehey, I believe his name is.

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Speaker 2: And the fan vote hilarious. Wemby, Wemby, Wemby. There's five

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Speaker 2: fan votes. I don't know how they like five good

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Speaker 2: one through five, I guess anyways, three go to Wemby

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Speaker 3: Pretty funny, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Thanks thank you fans, Thanks fans for getting it wrong.

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Speaker 4: Dylan Harper shot the ball really well, five of seven

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Speaker 4: so he's still shooting twenty six percent from three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how many times is you? Stan Van Gundy? Bring

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Speaker 3: He only made ten going into the last night.

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Speaker 1: He said it every time he other three is like, okay,

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Speaker 3: He was feeling it.

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Speaker 2: That was pretty good stand band that came through. Man,

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's unfortunate for Mitchell Romson too, who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like we saw in the semifinal. Yeah, like you

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Speaker 1: It was strange, even if it's ugly obviously at home

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Speaker 3: Through, I think the bench is best for him.

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Speaker 4: That way, he can just come in play his twenty

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Speaker 4: I think Castle was also pretty solid last night. Didn't

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Speaker 4: for ten from the field's not a badge night, not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think the Knicks scored on that possession,

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Speaker 2: could see it. And you brought up after the semi

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00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,399
Speaker 2: final trade when we started talking about the draft class

436
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty four and how he won Rookie of

437
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 2: the Year and how you kind of underestimated him, and

438
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,680
Speaker 2: if we were to redo the draft, Stefan Castle could

439
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 2: easily go number one in that draft because he's freaking

440
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 2: awesome the way he's able to bring and start up

441
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,360
Speaker 2: a possession and make sure everybody gets the ballic he's

442
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 2: become this passing guy. But at the same time, Darren

443
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 2: Fox can be that guy on this team. At the

444
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 2: same time Dylan Harper can be the guy on this team.

445
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 2: So I loved watching Sefan Castley actually fighting over screens

446
00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 2: so fansively.

447
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 1: Elite defense on Brunson, like you said, and refusing to

448
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: switch you know, small on small screens. He's like he

449
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: played his ass off. I thought, not having a greatest

450
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 1: shooting night, a couple of bad turnovers late, but yeah,

451
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 1: I can't say the guy didn't try to win this game.

452
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 1: Ever was and like they he saw that with the

453
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 1: Knicks bench when they won the thing, Like those guys

454
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Speaker 1: at the oend of the bench were like, oh my god,

455
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 1: like they won a championship. Brunts in a little more stoic,

456
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: a little more going over, shaking hands with everybody on

457
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: the other team. Of course that's your captain, But happy

458
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: for those guys that just won half a million dollars

459
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: that some of them didn't even play.

460
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Speaker 4: I think it's like a twenty three percent raise for

461
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 4: Tyler Kohlik.

462
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is what I said. And he great game.

463
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Speaker 3: It was awesome fifteen five.

464
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 1: And five and he had probably the assist to Og

465
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 1: in the corner that was the one that sealed it.

466
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 1: It was a hell of a play. But let's keep

467
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: getting into some random things from this game. Let's hit

468
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Speaker 1: the random note here.

469
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Speaker 3: JD.

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Speaker 1: Randam. Yeah, I wanted to pivot to that because I

471
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 1: brought up the Colic pass, which was nice, But how

472
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 1: about the Karl Anthony pass in the first half where

473
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: he's trapped on the sidelines and like they've got him,

474
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: he has nowhere to go and he throws like an

475
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: underhand sort of swing to Og who's on the other

476
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: side of the net. Just unincredible dime tasks from cat here.

477
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Speaker 1: As we show everybody on YouTube.

478
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: It's art, it's cinema and that camera spot the angle

479
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Speaker 2: of that camera where you see it coming.

480
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 1: At the camera. Come on, that's gorgeous stuff.

481
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, great call from Eagle. That was a spicy dish.

482
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 4: TI to rewind that one. I'm like, what happened? Yeah,

483
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 4: because it looked like he was totally trapped. He had

484
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 4: Wemby all over him, then just find him. The under

485
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 4: the armpit pass around Wemby was pretty impressive. Oh, in general,

486
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 4: the Knicks weren't that scared of Wemby. Yeah, like they

487
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 4: were going at him. He did block some shots, but

488
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 4: obviously they got busy on the offensive glass as well,

489
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Speaker 4: and they played with respect for him but not fear

490
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Speaker 4: for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was only a handful of times that I

492
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Speaker 1: can remember Colic short arm like yeah, yeah, and there's

493
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: maybe one other one that I was like, oh yeah,

494
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: Wemby I think obviously changed that shot because they knew

495
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: he was lurking. But you're right, it was a great

496
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: game from all the Knicks. Like there really wasn't anybody

497
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: on the Knicks that bad game. Like, I mean, Bridges,

498
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: we didn't bring up. He obviously sort of gets bench

499
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: for Colic, who's like just on a heater and you

500
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: got to keep him out there. But yeah, that's he

501
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: just had a quiet game. It wasn't even bad. I

502
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: would say it's something Bridges was tanking him or anything

503
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: like that.

504
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: No, No, not at all. Yeah, that was to be

505
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: able to make that pass around Wemby. If I was

506
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: on the call, I'd be forcing it and I'd say,

507
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: what a French dish? What kind of a French dish

508
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: was that? Just because Wemby's got the body right there.

509
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: But just a great dish. But great, just a great dish.

510
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: This we don't have anything for. But once again, this

511
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: must be the second or third time this season, Luke

512
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: Cornett catching himself on the in arena, big screens, on

513
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: the Joketron, whatever you want to call it. I love

514
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: when he sees that he's on it and just does

515
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 1: like a dumb face. Makes me laugh about it every

516
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: time professional players excited that he's on the big screen.

517
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 3: Did you see the outfit that he walked into the

518
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: NBA Cup?

519
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean yes, sort of looking like me, Yeah, a

520
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: little bit, just a hoodie, jeans, runners. He played great,

521
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: He did play great.

522
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 4: If it wasn't for Mitchell Robinson, we would be talking

523
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: about Luke Cornett's offensive rebounding.

524
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was all over the glass, he was he

525
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: We respect the cup here, But I was wondering last

526
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: night does Dwayne Wade respect the Cup? And I asked

527
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: that because we had Stanman, Gundy and Eagle they were

528
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: wearing the NBA Cup pins, but Dwayne Wade was not.

529
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, you know.

530
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: I was a little upset.

531
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Speaker 4: I think the thing is that Dwayne Wade respects his shirt.

532
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 4: I think that I respect the cup. I believe that

533
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 4: is the case too. Yeah, because you could you could.

534
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: Leave a hole for sure. And that knit he's wearing. Yeah, right.

535
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 3: The other guys had their lapel there with their suits. Yeah,

536
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: he's lapel for okay, So where you gonna put it.

537
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad you say that because on the broadcast, dwayn

538
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: Wade seems to respect the cup. Yeahto it didn't respect

539
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: the cup pin, I guess.

540
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was.

541
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: He was preaching the importance of winning a game that has,

542
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 2: you know, all these stakes, and that how it can

543
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: help you later on in the season.

544
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: So he did.

545
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: Buddy also appreciates a tire. Yeah sure, I respect.

546
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

547
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: What did you think of the stand crush graphics that

548
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: we got at the start of the second half and

549
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: it was all about Castle, who we just showed some

550
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: love to. I thought this was great and funny music

551
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: going with this while we were seeing Castle highlights and

552
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: stand Ban explaining his crush.

553
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is like a Peak Turner era sort of

554
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 4: something right, like, we're coming up with a quick photo

555
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 4: shop because something funny was said during the broadcast. So

556
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 4: they had a Castle train, right, and I think Dwayne

557
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 4: Wade wanted to hop on the Og train. Yeah, that

558
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 4: one left the station a long time ago. But you

559
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 4: can hop on.

560
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: Castle, sure, sure, sure, Yeah. He calls him Steph Castle

561
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 2: every single time though. Don't want to hear that. You

562
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: don't like that his name is Stefan and we have

563
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 2: a staff. It just doesn't flow.

564
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sort of with you. It doesn't sound as

565
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: good and that doesn't sounds Castle. Yeah, I don't know why.

566
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: And then finally we alluded to it right off the top.

567
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: But in the celebrations for the Knicks, we had Josh

568
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: Hart sticking his thumb. Let's see that thumb in the

569
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: butt up Buntson's butt, and these.

570
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: Guys are funny man.

571
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: Turning around staring right at him.

572
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: Well, at first he looks to the side of Josh

573
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: Hart because he doesn't know if it doesn't know, But

574
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: then he's like he knew who did it. Well, he

575
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: thought it could have been Coil, He could have been

576
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: somebody who jumped in gave him the thumb and then

577
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: ran off. He kind of looks like it looks at

578
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: Colic for a second. Was that year or no, it's

579
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: not col Like, it's deuce deuce. You give me the deuce,

580
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: Give me the deuce goose.

581
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good.

582
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 4: And then they're like, you know, of course, talking trash

583
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 4: to each other during their postgame interviews with the Prime crew.

584
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 3: There that's love. Man, put your thumb in somebody else's

585
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 3: butt just as a joke. You can't do it unless

586
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 3: you are very close to that person.

587
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

588
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: I mean we've been working together for twenty years and

589
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: I would still feel uncomfortable your guys's butts.

590
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: Thank you. How would you feel if you got the

591
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: thumb and the butt? I would welcome it. Yeah, you

592
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't feel uncomfortable, Yes to it.

593
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: A lot more. He gets drive by thumbs up the

594
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: butt all the time from his wife, right.

595
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 4: I would say almost every day. Yeah, okay, well when

596
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: I'm at the sink. Mostly when I'm at the sink,

597
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 4: I should never turn my back.

598
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: I was Josh Hart was having fun with this on

599
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: on social media too, basically saying you know cotton four

600
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: k and he said it was a Hi, So he's

601
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: alluded or he's saying it's not even a real clip,

602
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: so he's having phone with it. Yeah, those guys are buds,

603
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: butt buds celebrating the trophy there, and I think Kat

604
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: had a challow may on FaceTime.

605
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: Yes, he got on face time with Timmy Shallomey, got

606
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: in FaceTime with Ben Stiller, got on FaceTime with his family.

607
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 4: Posted it all to Instagram. This guy was celebrating the

608
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 4: Cup like it was a championship. He was very happy

609
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: to be holding the trophy. It's like he was holding it,

610
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: holding it, holding it. They gave it to Brunton for

611
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 4: a second, they took the team photo and it's like,

612
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 4: gives it back to Cat and Cat carried it off. Yeah,

613
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 4: I've had it with him all night. He had the

614
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: cup going up On a Tuesday, James Edwards says that

615
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 4: the Knicks are going to hang a banner for the Cup.

616
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: I guess the other teams have, right, Lakers and Bucks

617
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: have put up a cup banner. So yeah, I'm not

618
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: shocked by that. I guess.

619
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: Mike Brown almost didn't announce it postgame when he gave

620
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: his interview with Taylor Rooks, but he basically said, it.

621
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: Feels like we're an MSG. It feels so good, we're

622
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: going to hang a banner.

623
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: Essentially, he said it Uphie, they're hanging it in.

624
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: There was a pro Nicks crowd there in attendance. Oh yeah,

625
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: a lot of Knicks fans.

626
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: He was pumped.

627
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: The Trekker at least went to that game.

628
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: You don't really see a coach come back, come out

629
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: of the and do an interview like that and basically

630
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: say like like super ex like super duper excitedly, let's

631
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: go postgame like that. Fired fired coach New York In

632
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: here do.

633
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: Coaches get the five hundred thousand two must.

634
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: Get some kind of bonus they are being forced to overtime?

635
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: Confirmed by the way that question I had the other

636
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: day about like, is it like an accumulative thing every

637
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: round you keep adding to it. No, No, it is not.

638
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: It's only five hundred and thirty one thousand dollars winning

639
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: players at least rests to the Knicks and a cool

640
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: two hundred k or whatever it was for twelve lamas

641
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: will be bought. Johnson.

642
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: Did the Knicks celebrate in the champagne room? I know

643
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: that was a thing like the Lakers didn't you're one.

644
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: So the Bucks followed suit and didn't. I don't know what.

645
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: I couldn't find any thing about it. Yeah, I was

646
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: doing a Nicks champagne searches over the place, like seeing

647
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: if I could find something.

648
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know. They should have at least gone

649
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: to do New York, New York to do their pretty

650
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: funny idea.

651
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, because we last year when we

652
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: were in Vegas for the Cup, we knew the person

653
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: that set up the champagne and they were terribly disappointed

654
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: that it wasn't even used because Milwaukee refused to go.

655
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: Remember that.

656
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so bad.

657
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: From all that work these people put into it, we're

658
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: not touching it, and in retrospect, they should have. They

659
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: should have.

660
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: They got bounced in the first round. It's not the champagne,

661
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: that's the curse.

662
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 4: I also liked that we heard a lot about it,

663
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: Dirk Novisky teaching O. G. N and O Be how

664
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: to shoot, and about the finger position. It's all about

665
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 4: the railroad, is what Dirk said.

666
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: Calls it a railroad. YEA, in my pocket.

667
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: That was cool. I like that they brought the ball

668
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: out and handed to and had Taylor hold the mic

669
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: for him to explain it. That was good.

670
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, let your your finger, your pointer finger and your

671
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: middle finger be the last two to touch it that way.

672
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: Can't go right or go left. It has to either

673
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: fit miss shorter or long. It was pretty cool and

674
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: last night.

675
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: For sure hitting five threes. There anything else this game,

676
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: but well, well again, we'll talk a little bit more

677
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: about the Cup in general when we get to the

678
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: updown report.

679
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean Josh Hart obviously the thumb, he

680
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: was doing what he wanted. I thought that huge three

681
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: with three minutes left. He hadn't hit a three all

682
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: game and he kind of called called his own number

683
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: up five three minutes left in the fourth quarter here

684
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: and and lined it up.

685
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: So he must feel great.

686
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: Brunson obviously thanked everybody post game in that interview. That's

687
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: the first thing he said, and he said, without them,

688
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: we don't win sh And he believed himself. You know,

689
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: he stopped. He stopped. He stopped himself. And we talked

690
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: about earlier, is cursing cool in sports now? Like our

691
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: media company is cool with it, And I do think

692
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: we're at a point. Even though he kind of stopped

693
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: himself mid ship.

694
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: That it is totally cool. It's totally fine.

695
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: Now things have changed. He can say shit if he

696
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: wanted to. Yeah, and I did, probably totally can on

697
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: Prime on Prime ye Yeah, yeah.

698
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: You would think over the air.

699
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I did write down. And it's after ten pm.

700
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: You can say whatever you want. Definitely locally though, is

701
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: it local fools? Yeah?

702
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: Good, I did write down from brenton speech, We're going

703
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: to find a way. So that's probably they're saying going forward,

704
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: We're going to find a way, because that's who they are.

705
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: That's not going to stick. Well, that doesn't hit maybe not.

706
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean for Brunson, it feels like he'll say that

707
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: to his team. Will it be fun out here in

708
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: the in the media where a little Knicks fans jump

709
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: on it?

710
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: Probably Actually, okay, find a way.

711
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: We're going to find a way. You want to just

712
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: find a way. Yeah, either way, we work shop that,

713
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: we'll work shop it. Uh. Landry Shammit's outfit that was

714
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: cool with it. You just wore baggy pants, you notice,

715
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: just regular baggy pants.

716
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: He had a big old pair of jeans on. I

717
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: think he had only the right side of his shirt

718
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: tucked in.

719
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: It was a Wayne talk.

720
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: Yes, and I have to comment on on your retire

721
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: right now because you you said you're.

722
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: My nixt themed gear, my orange shirt. Yeah, exactly. Well

723
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: Ralph Tuck, Now is that a mock turtleneck? That's a

724
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: mock baby.

725
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what you can.

726
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: Right nearly orange. Yeah, it's like a rusty boy. That's

727
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: a rusty mince. You gotta gotta throw their rusty fence.

728
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: That's for you, Matt. I know you're gonna love that.

729
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: I also liked Richard Jefferson was on hand wearing a

730
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: little tiny hat and glasses.

731
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like, who is that guy? I know

732
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: you never see it with anything on his head, hair

733
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: or anything.

734
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: Tiny ski hat like curls right up to the top

735
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: of his hat. Are you an artist? Are you going

736
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: to paint like? He did not look like Richard Jefferson

737
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: at all. The gray beard, beard, hairs, stubble coming out

738
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: as well, so it was interesting to see him. Just

739
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: a couple of quick notes here, I hate it. I

740
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: was happy to be on Twitter slash x on the

741
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: search tab and the Today's News as it's titled. One

742
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: top headline was Nick's and fifty two year drought with

743
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: NBA Cup final win a fifty two year drop. Yeah,

744
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: they've been trying for this NBA Cup for fifty years,

745
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: so basically to replica. Yeah, they want a freaking title,

746
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: which they haven't done fifty two years. But then, you know,

747
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: you get that little small text that says quote a

748
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: summary of posts on X and may evolve over time.

749
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: Grock can make mistakes, verify its outputs. So yeah, whatever,

750
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: that was just hard to read anyway. I will also

751
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: just Dylan harper would love shooting him. He also has

752
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: that left foot torque when he lets it rip. You know,

753
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: he's got that unique He's got that unique footwork where

754
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: it's just turned in just to touch before he lets

755
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: it go.

756
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: That's all. That's all. I just love Dylan harper Man.

757
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: He's just a cool player to watch.

758
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break and when we come back,

759
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: we'll get into more Cup talk. In the updown report,

760
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: the NBA is awesome. You know this. I know this,

761
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 1: the buckets, the buzzer beaters, all of it. And fan

762
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Duel's putting you in control right from tip off because

763
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: today Wednesday you get to choose your reward. It's like

764
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: those choose your own adventure books when we were young.

765
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: But for betting, you have options. Take your shot with

766
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: a profit boost. You can play it cool with a

767
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: no sweat bet, or get a little back up with

768
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: a bet back token. It's all about finding what fits

769
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: your game, the way you like to play, and the

770
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: way you hopefully like to win. Me I'm a go

771
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: big or go home type of dude. I'm always and

772
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: this is probably not the right way to do it,

773
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: but I'm always chasing that big parlay. Maybe you're more

774
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: of a careful strategist who plays it smart with a

775
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: no sweat bet. If you are, I think that is

776
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: good thinking. But I'm a parlay man. No matter how

777
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: you play, FanDuel's giving you the power to choose your

778
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: reward and your own game this NBA season. So make

779
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: your pick, get in the game, and play it your way.

780
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: Shouts to FanDuel, the official sports betting partner of the NBA. Okay, JD,

781
00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: Let's do it man, Let's get into the updown Report. Wow, Wow,

782
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: the updown Report got a couple for you. Throw some

783
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: thumbs on these up or down. The first one, the

784
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: Raptors have a sixteen and eleven record. They're third in

785
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: the East and are rumored to be a buyer at

786
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. NBA insider Jake Fisher, who has a

787
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: hell of a mustache going on right now, he reported

788
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: that the Raptors are in the market for an upgrade

789
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: to their front court and that Demonte Sabonis and Anthony

790
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: Davis are two players to keep an eye on.

791
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: Tess.

792
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: I want to start with you. You got your Raptors

793
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: hoodie on here up or down on the Raptors showing

794
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: interest in ad and or Sabonis.

795
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: I don't like the trade for either guy. I'm going down.

796
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: You're down as far as Anthony Davis goes. Does this

797
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: make them a championship team? Right here, right now? Anthony Davis,

798
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: as much as I've supported him, he is about a

799
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: half a season type of player.

800
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: Right now.

801
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: He's playing this half a season. This year, he's only

802
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 2: played half season. Last year he only played half a season,

803
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: and three of the years before that he had played

804
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 2: half seasons. We're talking now for the last five years

805
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: plus this one half a season. Gonna go give up

806
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: a lot of your depth for a guy who's owed

807
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: a good amount both this year and next year and

808
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: the year after that at fifty eight and sixty two,

809
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: you trade away your depth, you're swinging for it. You're

810
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: gonna be a championship team. You're gonna he's gonna be

811
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: thirty three before the playoffs. I just see this as

812
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: an extension of the moves that they'd made over the

813
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: last couple of years. We're trading for Brandon Inger, We're

814
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: trading both ojing Pascal out of here for Emmanuel quickly.

815
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: It just feels like it ain't going that high with

816
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis as their guy. And I feel the same

817
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: way about de Mantes Simonis. As good as he is,

818
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: money owed to him also pretty big the next two years.

819
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a lateral move, a lot to

820
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: pay in guys that they have, in depth that they have.

821
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: I'd rather see them go for somebody smaller like Daniel

822
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: Gaff has been rumored to be wanted by the Toronto Raptors.

823
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: Great report from Josh Lumberg of TSN to help back

824
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: up Yaka Pearl cost Less. It doesn't really cripple you

825
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: like these other two guys would. When you've got a team,

826
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: that's just it's not excelling right now. As even though

827
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: they are third in the Eastern Conference. This isn't a

828
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: team a championship team, and I just don't think those

829
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: those two guys really take them over the top.

830
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: So I can't do it. I wouldn't do.

831
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: Even hypothetically, and I don't think this would happen. But

832
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: even if you could turn Pearl and RJ. Barrett and

833
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: some sort of draft capital for Anthony Davis, like, that's

834
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: not a lot. I think you would agree. I hear you.

835
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: I get your half man half a season, which would

836
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: be hilarious to have a guy in the Toronto named that,

837
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: But that's not a ton.

838
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: It's not I don't see why the MAVs would do

839
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: that unless you're giving up.

840
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that.

841
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: But also the weird part is Anthony Davis doesn't really

842
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: want to play five, so then he's your only center

843
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: on the team if he were to come in that

844
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: sort of deal, because Pearl would go out. So maybe

845
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: there's complications there. Okay, so you're not not loving these

846
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: ideas you want to You think the Raptors will just

847
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: go a tier or two down, Yeah, for a center that.

848
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: Will be much more affordable, and see what they have here.

849
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: Internally, they did give a monster extension to Yaka Pearl.

850
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: I assume they knew that he wasn't injured, but it

851
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: sure feels like he's injured.

852
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 3: Now.

853
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 2: If you're saying, hey, we're gonna give you this injured

854
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: guy plus RJ. Barrett to see what we can do,

855
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: it all depends what's going the other way. But I

856
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: don't see it right here right now.

857
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: What do you think TK?

858
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

859
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 4: I mean, if the Mavericks are gonna do Pertal for Davis,

860
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: you definitely do that. If I am to have a

861
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 4: aging center on a big contract who's hurt a lot,

862
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: I would rather have Anthony Davis than Yaka Peerl.

863
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: But I don't think the Mavericks would do that.

864
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 4: And you know, signs are pointing towards the MAVs hanging

865
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: on to Anthony Davis because whatever's coming back isn't going

866
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 4: to be all that exciting. Some with Tass, I think

867
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: this is more likely going to be like a smaller

868
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: move for a center who comes off the bench, maybe

869
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 4: starts when Perl struggling, mostly because the Raptors don't have

870
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: any contracts between Perl making nineteen and a half million

871
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 4: and o Chaya Baji making six million, Yeah, Davis makes

872
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: fifty four, Sabonus makes forty two, so it's kind of

873
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: hard to add up to their contract numbers because of

874
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: the matching rules here, which means RJ. Barrett basically has

875
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: to be in the deal. He's twenty seven and a

876
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: half million dollars. So you're trading a bunch of guys

877
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 4: for one center. It just doesn't make a whole bunch

878
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: of sense. So more than likely they will do something

879
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: to get themselves underneath the luxury tax. It makes them

880
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: like eleven million dollars as a franchise.

881
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got to think about it from the

882
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: mass perspective. The ownership obviously trade Luka Doncic. They try

883
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: and make up for it by firing Nico Harrison. You're

884
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: gonna turn the guy that you traded Luca for and

885
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis into Yaka Pearl, who is.

886
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: Nowhere close to being an All Star. And RJ.

887
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: Barrett obviously a solid guy that wraps need him back healthy.

888
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you really dug yourself a

889
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: big hole. You're trying to dig your self out of

890
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: it by firing Nico Harrison, and the guy that we

891
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: turned Luca into is going to be turned into Yako

892
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: Perdl again, who's having trouble staying on the floor and

893
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: looking like himself even when he is on the floor.

894
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: That's a monster contract himself. But you're gonna have to

895
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: trade monsters away to get Davis or Dematosimota. So it's hard.

896
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: I think it's hard on both sides, Like what are

897
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: the Kings getting back on there? And they want I

898
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: know that there aren't huge packages for Demons, but they

899
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: also want somebody solid that they can play.

900
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think they of any team, would

901
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: be like getting off a Sabonis because they are looking

902
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: to blow this up and are more likely to be

903
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: interested in Rjie, barrett, a pick whatever other contracts to

904
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: make it worth I don't want the Raptors really to

905
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: make a move for Sabonis, especially if it's going to

906
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: be Pertl and Sibonis what you're going with and playing

907
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: paying a lot of money for those two centers. I'm

908
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: not into that. Also, the reporting is that the Raptors,

909
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: like a lot of teams, are just waiting to see

910
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: the whole Giannis of it all and what happens with

911
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: him in Milwaukee, and if they could be aggressive to

912
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: try and make a deal for him whether they should

913
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: do that, because the Raptors are one of like seven

914
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: teams that do have control of all their first round picks,

915
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: so they could be aggressive, big game hunting for a

916
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: star if they wanted to. But then you get into

917
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: the question, like what's even adding Yannis to the Raptors

918
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: if a lot of talent does have to go out

919
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: to make it happen because of contract. I mean, what

920
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: are the Raptors with Yannis and a depleted roster? They

921
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: just sort of not are they not the Bucks? Kind

922
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: of like the Bucks potentially.

923
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to see what the Kings do

924
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: if they do want to.

925
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: Blow it up, because it sure feels like they just

926
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 2: keep adding players to be a even below mediocre team.

927
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of players dealt.

928
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: Then maybe they can't get anything back for a lot

929
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: of them because there's so many players people are supporting

930
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: to Martin Rosen, get him to a winner, get it,

931
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: I get it. There's gonna be trades. It's gonna be

932
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: more exciting than the offseason. Heard the free agency was

933
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: going to be great. That didn't happen, But trade season

934
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: should be.

935
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, trade deadline is more important than free agency now

936
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: by it's a new age.

937
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: Next one here. A Golden State Warriors fan found owner

938
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: Joe Lacob's email address online and expressed his disappointment after

939
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: Sunday's loss, and Lacub responded. He said, quote, you can't

940
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: be as frustrated as me. I'm working on it. It's

941
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: complicated style of play, coaches desires regarding players, league trends.

942
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy is not the problem. End quote, TK you get

943
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: to start it. Are you up or down? On?

944
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: Warriors?

945
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: Owner Joe Lacob responding to a frustrated fans email, I.

946
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: Don't know which way to put my thumb. If I'm

947
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 4: the fan, this his thumbs up. I just randomly found

948
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: Joe Lacob's email on the internet, blasted him an email,

949
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: and he writes back two minutes later. That's a thumbs up,

950
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 4: right there. A good outreach from the owner of the

951
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors.

952
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: But what about what he said.

953
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's a little trending towards the down thumb there.

954
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: The coaches desires regarding players. That's pretty interesting because we

955
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 4: know Lacub has been a big Jonathan kaminga backer, Steve

956
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: Kerr obviously not a Jonathan Kaminga backer, and it's been

957
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: like a.

958
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: Push and pull for the.

959
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 4: Entire five years the Kaminga's been on the Warriors, and

960
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: now it seems to be building to a head as

961
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: we get closer and closer to the trade deadline and

962
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: to Kamingia actually being eligible to be traded. Feels like

963
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: there's a little bit of tension there though. Steve Kerr

964
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: popped the balloon and basically is like, I just love

965
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: that our coat, that our owner has passion, he.

966
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: Wants to win. I think that is true.

967
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 4: The other thing I think that was interesting him mentioning

968
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: the league trends, because you look at this Warriors team

969
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: and it's like, this is a team that was built

970
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 4: to be good in twenty sixteen. They're a small ball

971
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 4: team in a big man's world. The game has changed

972
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: in the past three seasons. Basically, they're also an old

973
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: team in a young man's game. They don't have the

974
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 4: size to compete with the team like the Nuggets or

975
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: the Rockets, the Spurs, even the Thunder play two bigs

976
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 4: a lot of the times, maybe exactly Golden State twenty

977
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: fifth and defensive rebound rate.

978
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: There's nobody on the team that's really going to help that.

979
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: There also things that are advantageous. The teams right now

980
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: are playing a lot of young guys. All of the

981
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 4: best teams in the league have great depth of younger guys,

982
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: and the Warriors don't have that either. Their young guys

983
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: are okay, and there's not even that many of them

984
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: that are in the rotation right now.

985
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 3: So I don't know. Frustrated fan makes sense to me.

986
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: I would be frustrated too if I had seen the

987
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 4: way the Warriors went down.

988
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially those last two Curry games. This guy comes

989
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: back and scored like eighty combined points over the two games,

990
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: and they both coming losses.

991
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: So I get what the fantas saying, Yeah, what are

992
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 2: we going to do with stuff? He can't score sixty

993
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: five a game and we're not going to win. So

994
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: I get that frustration. I also get Joel Acap replying,

995
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: I get that that's fun. It is, it's courageous. It's

996
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: a Mark Cuban type of move. It's fun to see

997
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 2: your owner like that.

998
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: Should he have said, though, at the bottom of his email,

999
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: don't put this to Reddit?

1000
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't put this anywhere. Yeah, things have changed.

1001
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: This is private.

1002
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, things have changed as far as basketball goes mar

1003
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: some more depth. Things have changed. The way we feel

1004
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: about emails. You just can't send them anymore. You got

1005
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: to be concerned, right, And that's what Steve Kerr said

1006
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 2: in his press conference. He said, to think about if

1007
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: every single one of our emails was posted. I mean,

1008
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: it sucks. It does suck. But at the same time,

1009
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: you've got an owner who's trying to put it out

1010
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: there for you. I projected myself and I said, I

1011
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: love emailing people back from no dunks.

1012
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: It's great.

1013
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm also not a billionaire and no one cares what

1014
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: I have to say. No one's even going to publicize that.

1015
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: That's why I kind of it stinks in that retrospect.

1016
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, the trend of the league is totally true,

1017
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: and it seems to be what Lake was speaking about

1018
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: when they made the trade for Jimmy Butler last year.

1019
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: They were too small. We saw it against the Wolves.

1020
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: They're too small. They're getting older now, so it's totally

1021
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 2: exact opposite of what the league is going for now.

1022
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: They're always a strengthen numbers team, like they always had

1023
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: depth and they still do. But they got to get

1024
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: bigger than they got to get younger, and that's a

1025
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: problem I think. Also Steve Kerr saying in his press

1026
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: conference he said he will keep the five man group

1027
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: of Steph, Moses Moody, Jimmy Butler, Draymon Green, and Quentin

1028
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: Post as the established starting lineup for the foreseeable future.

1029
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not all that appetizing for for Warriors fans.

1030
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: QP. He ain't a modern day player. Quinn Post is

1031
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: just not a modern day play.

1032
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah he can, he can shoot a three, and he

1033
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 2: can kind of be in the way, but it ain't

1034
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: him so struggling. You know, besides Steph, Jimmy and Draymond,

1035
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: they need ath less. MOS's Moody hasn't been that awesome guy.

1036
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: So those are the two guys that they're saying we're

1037
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: going with. It's kind of similar to what they did

1038
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: last year with Josh Jonathan Minga.

1039
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 4: Right.

1040
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: Look, he's he's going to the bench. Okay, now he's

1041
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: a starter. He is the absolute starter and it didn't

1042
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: work out. So yeah, they're going through it. They are

1043
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 2: going through it.

1044
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: Sure feels I know they are like handcuffed a little

1045
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: bit here, but a team that's going to make some

1046
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: sort of move when you can trade Jonathan Minjo Kmingo,

1047
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: which is not until January fifteen.

1048
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: It's not just another month.

1049
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like now his contract is big and

1050
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: he doesn't play.

1051
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, they may have also missed the timing

1052
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: with that one. Yeah, they botched that situation for sure.

1053
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: It's because they hold on held on to him too long.

1054
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: NBA teams in general like hold on to their prospects

1055
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 4: because they don't want to see him blow up. They

1056
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: don't want to shake Gilds Alexander situation. Right, Sometimes you

1057
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: got to cut.

1058
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: The cord, yea.

1059
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it happened in Toronto with Urmasai u Jeri and

1060
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: it looks like it's happening here with gold State because

1061
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: he's got to play to trade him. And so that's

1062
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: why this is funny to hear him say this is

1063
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: our starting lineup, but it's going to change this this

1064
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 2: established starting lineup for the foreseeable future.

1065
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: It can't be for the foreseeable future. You got Kaminga

1066
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: sitting there until we make trades.

1067
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: Maybe what he.

1068
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who wants comeinga if he's not. I guess

1069
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: if you have hope even if he isn't playing, you

1070
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: could have hope.

1071
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: Next one here. According to multiple league sources, by way

1072
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: of the excellent reporting from Tim bon Temps and Joe

1073
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: vard On, the NBA is not under contract with the

1074
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: T Mobile Arena to host the NBA Cup Championship next

1075
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: year and is underwhelmed by on the ground enthusiasm for

1076
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: the event in Vegas. So the question here TK up

1077
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: or down? NBA moving the Cup final out of Vegas?

1078
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: We know the semifinals are not going to be there

1079
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: next year, but what do you think about the idea

1080
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: of like moving the Cup final? I guess Adam Silver

1081
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: said something about we might play at some story as

1082
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: arenas locations. What do you think up or down?

1083
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 4: I would say like seventy five percent up. I actually

1084
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 4: thought it was a pretty good environment last night Spurs

1085
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 4: versus Nicks, and I thought Spurs versus Thunder was pretty

1086
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: hype as well, but not the same as playing in

1087
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: your local arenas, which is why they're doing it for.

1088
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 3: The semi finals.

1089
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 4: I think it would be worth trying the half and

1090
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: half approach next season, play the semis on site at

1091
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 4: the wherever Oka See or New York, whatever it might

1092
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: have been, and then playing in Vegas again. But you

1093
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: don't have to be tied to Vegas. I saw Chris

1094
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 4: Mannix reporting that the NBA is kind of concerned that

1095
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 4: nobody goes to Vegas anymore, just in general because they

1096
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: are very greedy there. But think about all of the

1097
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 4: other sports that change every year. I'm not comparing the

1098
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 4: NBA Cup to these, but like the Super Bowl moves

1099
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 4: every year, Final Four moves every year, Golf majors move

1100
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 4: every single year. Today on the Hoop collector Tim bontem

1101
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 4: said he thinks that it won't be in Vegas next season,

1102
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: so that's kind of interesting, and I mean going to

1103
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 4: a place where there are basketball fans.

1104
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 3: I don't think it is stupid either.

1105
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: I wonder if this has any tie to what Adam

1106
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: Silver also said that we're going to decide on expansion

1107
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 2: this coming year, and Las Vegas, along with Seattle could

1108
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: be those two teams. So it feels like they're getting

1109
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: a team. It would be odd to bring the NBA

1110
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: Cup there every year if there's a.

1111
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: Team there, so that's part of it. This was a

1112
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: perfect environment.

1113
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: I agree, it was a fun environment as far as

1114
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: like an Eastern Coast team to have the New York

1115
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 2: Knicks fans there. It's the biggest freaking city in the country,

1116
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: so it helped that. And you know, San Antonio ain't

1117
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: super close. But the Wemby effect. We saw who was

1118
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: voted for NBA Cup MVP by fans. It was Victor Remgnela,

1119
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: even though this team didn't come close to winning. Really,

1120
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: so there's that part. Yeah, who gets the home game

1121
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: is the interesting part. If they don't do it in

1122
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: the college barn.

1123
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: Which would be fun, like to.

1124
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,959
Speaker 2: Switch it up every single year, it doesn't make sense.

1125
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: And every city gets this new event to get up for. Yeah,

1126
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: and it's a one time.

1127
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: Vote on the weekend because you only have the one

1128
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: game now, so you don't need to worry about the

1129
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: weekend semifinals and then a Tuesday night game. Yeah, you

1130
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: make it Saturday night or whatever.

1131
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: You up one of these college places that whether it's

1132
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: a North Carolina Duke or Kentucky like they've played at

1133
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: or you can be an India and a Hoosier for

1134
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: a day, you know that kind of thing.

1135
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: I think it makes sense.

1136
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the point is it could be anywhere. It can

1137
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: be like a Super Bowl. Obviously it's not to that extent,

1138
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: but like a WrestleMania or something. I think there's something

1139
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: there because then you might get if the Cup continues

1140
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: to gain traction like basketball, Diehard's fans like, oh, where

1141
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 1: are we going this year?

1142
00:50:59,320 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: Oh?

1143
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: We were in whatever we were in for Duke that game. Okay,

1144
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: now we're going here and maybe that means international too, Right,

1145
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: there's that possibility of taking it global. You're asking a

1146
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: lot travel wise for the players. Yeah, but you know,

1147
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: will people be over there in Europe or you could

1148
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: see it going to somewhere like Dubai obviously sort of

1149
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: the sponsor of this whole thing as it is. I

1150
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: think it's possible in the future.

1151
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: That's what Michael Read implied on our show yesterday. He

1152
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: did that it could be international, or that they're expanding

1153
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: the NBA Cup international. That being said, Amazon did enjoy

1154
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: like the whole production that they were involved in, right,

1155
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 2: because it was good, Like the whole thing this year

1156
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: was good and it has improved, there's no doubt.

1157
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the NBA and Prime remain committed to holding the

1158
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: championship game added neutral site, So I think we're going

1159
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: to be somewhere. It's not going to be like, whoever's

1160
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: the higher seed in the whole NBA Cup thing that's

1161
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: going to get the final as well.

1162
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: Where No, that would be weird. Who gets the home

1163
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: game so so weird.

1164
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: Keep the neutral idea, just maybe move it out of Vegas. Yeah. Also,

1165
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: the NBA Cup is not in jeopardy despite the venue uncertainty.

1166
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: I think that's important. It's a lot of the reporting here,

1167
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: a significant portion of Prime Videos media rights package, it's

1168
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: centered around this tournament. It's centered around the NBA Cup

1169
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: that was included in the collective bargaining agreement. So it's

1170
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: something like this, This NBA Cup is not going anywhere

1171
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: for at least like the next ten years, where the

1172
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: final game might move around, but it's going to be here.

1173
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: And I want to ask you guys, off of that

1174
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: three years in now to this thing, what in your

1175
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: opinion is working and maybe what isn't with the NBA

1176
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: Cup tournament in total?

1177
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 4: Okay, what's working is point differential during the round robin stage.

1178
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: I think makes the games pretty.

1179
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 4: Interesting and it's funny to see the unwritten rules being

1180
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 4: thrown by the wayside as teams try and run up

1181
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: the score. Okay, Also, the single game elimination works. It's exciting.

1182
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 4: Everybody loves a single elimination tournament. That's why the NCAA

1183
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 4: tournament is the biggest sporting event that we have going.

1184
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 4: Football playoffs are one game and you're out. You know,

1185
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 4: it definitely makes sense. That's why baseball added wild cards

1186
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: to make it exciting. Single game elimination very very cool.

1187
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 4: Things that aren't working, First and foremost is the courts.

1188
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 4: You know, that's they look ridiculous. But also, I mean,

1189
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 4: it's a little weird to have Dwayne Wade and stand

1190
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: Ban Gundy be and talking about how much money these

1191
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 4: guys are gonna make on the broadcast.

1192
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, get on this money.

1193
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: We're talking about Josh Hart being excited, excuse me to

1194
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 4: replace his stolen watches. You know, like this Calvin Johnson

1195
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 4: story is pretty funny, him wanting to get a lama

1196
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 4: in this kind of stuff. But I'm like, Josh Hart,

1197
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: you make twenty million dollars a year. I'm not feeling

1198
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 4: bad for you. It's not that cool that you're making

1199
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 4: five hundred thousand extra dollars. It feels very mercenary to

1200
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 4: me at times, but they're also in the union and

1201
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 4: they're working overtime, so they should be paid more.

1202
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: This game, especially that final one is Yeah, while the

1203
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 2: NBA is in the midst of this whole gambling concern,

1204
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 2: it is it's interesting to hear that for some guys

1205
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: off the end of the bench, that's who I always

1206
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: tend to go to those stories because it is more

1207
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: interesting for them where they are getting literally fifty percent

1208
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: of their salary in the form of a new check,

1209
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: which is awesome for them.

1210
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 3: In that instance, I.

1211
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: Would say I think the scheduling has worked better for

1212
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 2: us geeks. Like they're scheduling it better. It's more important

1213
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: just as far as the tournament games go. Leading up

1214
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: to it, we have dates where they happen. It's more fun.

1215
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: It's a bigger thing. The single elimination most definitely fun.

1216
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, next year we're going to be we're going

1217
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: to be saying, yeah, Victor one min Yama look like

1218
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: a god in the semi finals.

1219
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 3: But anything can.

1220
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: Happen in a single elimination game. We saw what happened

1221
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: in the final, so it is way more fun. And

1222
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 2: you know, the production part I think is with Amazon

1223
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: we've seen it improve, there's no doubt, and it's been

1224
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: more of an event, There's no doubt about that. And

1225
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: you get actual players around there, so that part is

1226
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: way more fun in general. Even our little the video,

1227
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: like the trailer that they made, it's more.

1228
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: Like a hype videos.

1229
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: More black thought I think was doing wrapping or spoken stuff.

1230
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I sometimes think like we respect the cup here

1231
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: and we're NBA diehards, and I do. I love the

1232
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: point differential too, because you know, we're talking about these

1233
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: like random late November early December games and they're funny

1234
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: and it like, oh wow, they ran it up. I

1235
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: do think though we're two in it, and I think

1236
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: casual basketball fans are sports fans. I don't think they

1237
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: give a shit about those group stages. I think we

1238
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: could moving forward. Here's what's going to happen. We're gonna

1239
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: add two more expansion teams. We're going to get to

1240
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: thirty two teams. We'll obviously balance it out, somebody's moving

1241
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: over to the Eastern Conference. It'll be balanced, and then

1242
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: we just have a single elimination tournament. Now, I don't

1243
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: know how you make it work with the scheduling and

1244
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: all that but that would be sick sixteen on one side,

1245
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: sixteen on another. You win, you advance, win, advance, win advance.

1246
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: People get into that. We do it all the time

1247
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: with March Madness. People love it obviously with the betting

1248
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: factor of it all. People love that. That to me

1249
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: is the way it's going to go. When we have

1250
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: like the thirty two teams, the perfect number to do

1251
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: it and less this group stage stuff. I don't think

1252
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: anybody cares about that part.

1253
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 2: Well, it all depends us. It all depends on the scheduling.

1254
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: I mean it's okay if you do an if you

1255
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: have an eighty two game season and you're going to

1256
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 2: have the single elimination tournament, you're just gonna chop off

1257
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: or block off a month to do this.

1258
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's push in it.

1259
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: And we're already talking about scheduling being hard for guys

1260
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: to get a week off for this NBA Cup. It's

1261
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: not a week, but you know that pushes games into

1262
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: real tight scenarios where there's more back to backs, and

1263
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: this is even work that'd be tough to do.

1264
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: I think there's ways to figure it out. There's like

1265
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: dates on the calendar where this is the matchup of

1266
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: the two teams that have advanced and gone onto the

1267
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: next round. It's going to then be making up all

1268
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: the other games. I understand that.

1269
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 3: But they can that's what they're doing now.

1270
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: Well yeah, so why can't they do it for that?

1271
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 2: What do you mean they have schedule for these Tuesday

1272
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: and they have it right now.

1273
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: For just semi finals and finals.

1274
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: Get rid of the group part. Why do we need

1275
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: that part? We don't even know what the groups are.

1276
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: Nobody knows why are we in this group? Why are

1277
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: we playing this team? Literally the players don't even know.

1278
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: They were confused. Remember the thunder were like, what, we're

1279
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: playing Phoenix again? I thought we played them? Yeah, you're

1280
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: playing them in the next Like, nobody cares about that part,

1281
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: and nobody cares about rank them one through sixteen. If

1282
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: you want who based off this year if we were

1283
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: doing it next year.

1284
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, timing just seems difficult to pull off. I mean,

1285
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: Adam Silver has taken on the other ideas of other

1286
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: soccer events during the main season and being able to

1287
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: just sort of replicate all right, here you're playing here,

1288
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: but there's just in soccer they play far fewer games,

1289
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: so it's easy to do. In the NBA is way different.

1290
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: I mean, they should be a shortened season, we all

1291
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: know that. But when you've got these TV deals for

1292
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: eighty two games, it'd be tough to do. It would

1293
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: just be difficult to do.

1294
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: I think we'll get there. I think they'll figure it

1295
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: out because they know this is the juice, this is

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00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: the fun. They play hard if they can advance to

1297
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: make more money. Every round you move on, you make

1298
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: more money. They put it all on the line. I

1299
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: get you, it's it's difficult. I'm not saying this would

1300
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: be done in a week, right, I'm saying this would

1301
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: be spread out. You'd find a way to spread.

1302
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: It out over how long?

1303
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: So you got well, like, this is already a month long,

1304
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: So what do you mean.

1305
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 3: What do you mean this is already.

1306
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: The NBA Cup It starts in late November. Maybe not

1307
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: a month long.

1308
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: I'm exaggerating, well close to a month, yeah, yeah, So.

1309
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: Just do it over that over the course of a month. Yeah,

1310
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: because we're not.

1311
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: Playing every single game, Like, we don't have to play

1312
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: all the first round games on the same weekend, right,

1313
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: we can do a quarters.

1314
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: So you're still playing your regular season games amidst that month. Yes,

1315
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: like they're doing that, you.

1316
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: Would have, yes, that part yes, okay, Yeah. The part

1317
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: is going to be difficult is when you get eliminated

1318
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: those then games have to obviously be added to the schedule.

1319
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: The people that make this schedules, this would be a

1320
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: nightmare for them, Yes, I mean it's probably already is,

1321
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: but even more of a nightmare.

1322
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: Okay.

1323
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: So you're just you're saying, get rid of the groups

1324
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: and just have them seeded.

1325
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I mean.

1326
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that's what you're saying. So instead of groups,

1327
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: that's all you're saying, really is instead of groups, just

1328
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: seed them.

1329
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: Yes, because the elimination game is all that matters. As

1330
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: fun as the point differential is for us sickos, nobody

1331
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: else cares.

1332
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

1333
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: So it's like what they're doing, just we have to

1334
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: figure out how what the groups are because they're.

1335
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 4: Bored set of four teams in the elimination there's thirty two.

1336
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 4: Yeah I'm not saying there's no group, but I think

1337
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 4: it's basically impossible to do this with an eighty two

1338
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: game schedule and to figure out the scheduling nother and

1339
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 4: like having you to do it on the fly, where

1340
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 4: like if you win on Tuesday, we literally don't know

1341
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 4: which teams are going to be playing on Friday.

1342
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: I think that's impossible.

1343
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: But outside of outside of giving them like three weeks

1344
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: off and like this is just cup time or something

1345
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: like that.

1346
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 4: Two and already teams and coaches are complaining that the

1347
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 4: schedule is too condensed because of the Cup.

1348
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: Being in the way.

1349
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean it would.

1350
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 3: Be lengthening the season.

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01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 4: How long it takes like number of months, Like it

1352
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 4: would have to be almost an eleven month season for

1353
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 4: that to work, and they pause it to do the

1354
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 4: NBA Cup or you know, we don't play any two games.

1355
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 3: But that'll never happen, all right.

1356
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else on the on the Cup working not

1357
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: working change tweak.

1358
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: I mean, people talk about incentives for the teams. Should

1359
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 4: they get like a half game in the standing role,

1360
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 4: Like should the Knicks have the leg up on anybody

1361
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 4: else in the Eastern Conference. That could be interesting to

1362
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 4: see for sure.

1363
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we talked about that. Was it Josh Hart

1364
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 1: that sort of came up with that day?

1365
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: Josh?

1366
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he inspired that conversation at least. Yeah, I think

1367
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: there's something there. It's just a tiebreaker basically who we're

1368
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: getting at that they have in their pocket now in

1369
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: any situation. Because they won the Cup, they would get

1370
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: to implement that and they would be bumped up in

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01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: any sort of tiebreaker, which just go to the top

1372
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: of the tiebreaker list.

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01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that. Yeah.

1374
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: And the other discussion was just keep the groups as

1375
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: division so you know who's in your division, so you

1376
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: rivals are those same four teams, But then the tournament

1377
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: ain't that different and then the regular season.

1378
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 3: So it feels a little lot. This feels feels like it.

1379
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: Doesn't really stand out, like it doesn't make it a

1380
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: special event. But you're definitely right about teams not knowing,

1381
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: not caring who the other four teams are in their

1382
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: group as it is right now, while they're, you know,

1383
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: trying to make it like a huge tournament. But it's

1384
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: at the same time as the regular season, so it's complicated.

1385
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: Final one here, the tense divorce between the Clippers and

1386
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: Chris Paul was weeks in the making before the twelve

1387
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: time all Start ultimately was sent home by the team.

1388
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: Earlier this month. ESPN released a lengthy report yesterday by

1389
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: NBA insider Ramona Shelbourne doing a little deep dive into

1390
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: the breakup, including details of a rift between Chris Paul

1391
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: and Clippers coaches tylu as well as Jeff Van God.

1392
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: There was a lot on Jeffan Gundy Chris Paul's relationship

1393
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: up or down. I'm just asking this sort of in

1394
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: general here on Ramona's column on this Chris Paul Clippers divorce.

1395
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: Well, I like getting more on a divorce, so who doesn't. Yeah,

1396
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 3: I got into it.

1397
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: I thought was there enough in there that you were well,

1398
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: I think.

1399
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 2: What it came down to, you know, besides the column

1400
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: watching Ramona on ESPN, what it came down to was

1401
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: the final sentence that she said that kind of just

1402
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: summed it up right at the end. When no one

1403
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: asks for your opinion, but you offer it, people see

1404
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 2: it as a judgment and they don't like that. And

1405
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: Chris Paul literally was And Ramona also said, my therapist

1406
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: used to say that to me. That's very funny, And

1407
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: that's exactly what happened. Chris Paul was offering his opinion

1408
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: like whatever it was, maybe I should be playing more,

1409
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: this guy should be playing, this guy should be playing

1410
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: this guy should be played and whether it was Jeff

1411
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: or Tie or even Lawrence Frank, we brought you into

1412
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: just help out and kind of.

1413
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: But shut up.

1414
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was feeling for Chris Paul in that sense.

1415
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, He's annoyed a lot of people. Yeah,

1416
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: so it feels like it feels fitting. It feels like

1417
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: Ramona's line there makes sense. But you wanted him to

1418
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: talk more. I mean, I guess I guess he is

1419
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: bringing brought in there to be this veteran guy, but

1420
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: I guess he was just also said, if they're five hundred,

1421
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 2: then it all's cool. Of course they're getting destroyed.

1422
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: Losing like this, Yeah, exposes everybody for sure and frustrates everybody. Also,

1423
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: the part it's one thing like Chris Paul's done this

1424
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: his entire career, been basically a pain in the ass.

1425
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: But he's been an elite point guard, a twelve time

1426
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: All Star, one of the best ever at the position.

1427
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: It's a little different when he's like getting ONNYA or

1428
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: telling you we should do this or suggesting this to

1429
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: stomach that than it is when he's Chris Paul at

1430
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: the end of his career. I think that was in

1431
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: the article as well. It's like you start to get

1432
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: a little more frustrated. It's like, okay, okay, okay, okay,

1433
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: but you know, it's still weird how they unceremoniously just

1434
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: like get out of here.

1435
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 4: Why it was so brutal that Chris Paul hopped on

1436
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 4: a FaceTime with DeAndre Jordan and Blake Griffin talking for

1437
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 4: the first time since Blake left the LA and they're

1438
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 4: all like, man, this organization is messed up, aren't.

1439
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 3: They had a.

1440
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 4: Great old laugh about it. Ramona has the perfect name

1441
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 4: because she'll burn you. She always comes out with these

1442
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 4: kind of like post uh you know, postgame press conferences

1443
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 4: for lack of a better word, telling us what was

1444
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 4: actually going on. But like, this has so much good stuff.

1445
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 4: If you like laughing at the Clippers. There's a lot

1446
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 4: to laugh at the Clippers at ye here. If you're

1447
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 4: a Chris Paul hater, this is awesome. They hated that game. Yeah,

1448
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 4: And the stuff between Chris, Chris Paul and Jeff Van Gundy,

1449
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 4: like you can just imagine those two getting on each

1450
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 4: other's nerves, just complaining to each other about each other

1451
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 4: face to face.

1452
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 3: That was great.

1453
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 4: Very sad details though about Chris Paul trying to throw

1454
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 4: a hollow party for the Clippers, and basically nobody showed

1455
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 4: up zoobots apparently Bradley Beal and maybe one other player,

1456
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 4: and after that the Clippers fell apart.

1457
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 3: After the Halloween party that wasn't Yeah, we could see

1458
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: who he had rifts with everyone.

1459
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 4: Turns out, I was surprised that John Collins was on

1460
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 4: the record.

1461
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 3: I talked to the way he was.

1462
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, we were destroying the starters when we

1463
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 4: were playing with Chris Paul. I was like, Bro, you're

1464
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 4: still on the team. H You're one of the starters

1465
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 4: now and you're losing all the time. Maybe go off

1466
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 4: the record on that one.

1467
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, an anonymous Clippers player. Yeah, but no, John's like, yeah,

1468
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: put my name to that. We were kicking ass. He

1469
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: just wanted everybody to know I was a balling out too,

1470
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: Chris Paul. Yeah. The part that Jo'll note to me

1471
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: too was in an early meeting with Frank, Chris Paul

1472
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: basically was raising concerns like the team's culture here sucks,

1473
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: and he was noting that there was a lack of

1474
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: conversation in the group text chat and a lack of

1475
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 1: time the players spent together off of the court. Maybe

1476
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: that's why he's trying to throw this Halloween party, trying

1477
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: everybody out together, silly costume stuff like that. But I

1478
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: think there's something to that, like there's no culture on

1479
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: that team, and then who do you blame for that?

1480
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: I think you usually turn to two things, right. The

1481
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: culture is like top down, and I mean top down,

1482
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: your owners, your coaches, your front office. And it's also

1483
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: usually your star player who helps set the tone of

1484
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: a of a culture. But that's Kawhi and it's sort

1485
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: of James Harden and they're not vocal leaders and I

1486
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: don't think they're like that and never will be like that.

1487
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: And that's not a shock. And maybe that's where Chris

1488
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: Paul is like trying to fill that vacuum, so to speak.

1489
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: But it is strange that they like they brought him back.

1490
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: They brought him back after a good year of San Antonio.

1491
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: You were at least he was healthy and contributing.

1492
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 3: Like starting every game, yeah yeah, but then they.

1493
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: Told him you're not going to start every game and

1494
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: he seemed okay with that, And like, I think everybody's

1495
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: that fault here, yes, but it's yeah, it was a

1496
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: pretty funny.

1497
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: Yes, it was a very funny take. Yeah, it's unfortunate

1498
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: that he was removed from the team. There's no doubt

1499
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 2: about that. I mean, you can look at a few ways.

1500
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: Last year the Los Angeles Clippers, led by James Harden

1501
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: and Kui Land were a damn good team.

1502
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 3: And that's who they were.

1503
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: They were I guess a quiet locker room, didn't hang

1504
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: out with each other, right, and they were good. And

1505
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: Chris Paul, I'm sure had trouble again starting all eighty

1506
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 2: two games last season. In twenty three or ectually twenty

1507
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: four to twenty five, he was starting every single game.

1508
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: Victor m Minyama saw him come to an NBA Cup

1509
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: game and they went and they had a hug. It

1510
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: seemed like all was good there, but I guess he

1511
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 2: had I'm sure Chris Paul had problems going from starting

1512
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: every game to playing like literally sometimes a DMPCD or

1513
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: a ten to twelve minutes off the bench.

1514
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure that was a huge problem and.

1515
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: It only gets worse and worse as the losses pile up.

1516
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: Big text saying why are we doing this? Why is

1517
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: this our defensive coverage? I think was in the article

1518
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: of Chris Paul like suggesting even switching up something, and

1519
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: then you know, Van Gundy and the coaching staff like

1520
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: took offense to that, and.

1521
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 4: They're like no, He's like, no, I suggested it. Yeah,

1522
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 4: you go check with these guys. See they said I

1523
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 4: suggested it. They're like, who cares? Yeah, just shut up, man,

1524
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 4: that's what they're saying. And Chris Paul's like, no, I'm right.

1525
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1526
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 3: They're like, we don't care. We like being angry at

1527
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 3: each other, we like not talking to each other.

1528
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1529
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 3: It's a Qui Leanard team for you.

1530
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other part too, made me laugh. Shelburne reported.

1531
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: Paul was stunned. Sources said, this is about Laurence Frank saying, hey,

1532
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: we're sending you home. Like he did not see that coming,

1533
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: even though they had been building up over weeks, and

1534
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: Chris Paul tried to plead his case. At one point,

1535
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: he brought teammate Brooke Lopez into the room as something

1536
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 1: of a character witness picture that Chris Paul here in Atlanta,

1537
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: some hotel room with Laurence Frank three hours in. We

1538
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: got to send you a hold on, hold on, hold on,

1539
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: let me see if books away Brook Lopez stumbling into

1540
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: the room one in the morning. Exactly. My favorite guys

1541
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: are Mickey Mouse and Chris Paul and maybe in that order.

1542
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: So it was just a funny little detail there, very funny,

1543
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,799
Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough to keep them, keep them around.

1544
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: And Chris Paul has been made to be right even

1545
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: more because they still can't win. Exactly, So he was

1546
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: not the issue. Of course, he was not the issue,

1547
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: but they're like, at least it's a little quieter around here.

1548
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it wasn't the issue.

1549
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 4: He also wasn't helping. Nope, you can get away with

1550
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 4: it on the Spurs. You know, they're a professional organization

1551
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 4: and a bunch of young guys.

1552
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: That's it.

1553
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: They're happy to hear it, yes, teach us. Yeah, that's

1554
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 3: a good way to put it.

1555
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, this season obviously started with the bomber slash Kawhi

1556
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: salary cap scenario. Things go poorly and they couldn't they

1557
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,520
Speaker 2: couldn't take it, and they couldn't take the CP suggestions.

1558
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 2: I'm sure just got to a lot of people.

1559
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 4: I did think that was interesting from Adam Silver, he

1560
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 4: was asked about the Chris Paul situation in LA and

1561
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 4: he's like, I haven't talked to Chris, but I have

1562
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 4: talked to Steve frankly not about this.

1563
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you talking about?

1564
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, talking about Steve.

1565
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,919
Speaker 1: Silver did say to you already said it tasks Vegas

1566
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: and Seattle. We might get some decisions about expansion in

1567
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: twenty six. Also, he had a lot of love for

1568
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: the Prime crew and took some shots maybe at ESPN.

1569
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: I guess maybe T and T back in the day

1570
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: with like how positive they are and how much do

1571
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: you teach the game on like some of those other

1572
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,919
Speaker 1: broadcast networks.

1573
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't like it doesn't like people saying once

1574
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 4: I just wanted it more. Yeah, but I did think

1575
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 4: the Knicks wanted it last time.

1576
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's true. Alright, well, by of the night, only

1577
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: one game and it's going to Ogan Andobi. He wanted

1578
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: it more. He wanted to whoa boy more game. I

1579
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: twenty eight points in the NBA Cup Final, ten to

1580
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: seventeen from the field, five to ten from deep. Those

1581
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: are big, big threes. Added nine boards, three assists, one block,

1582
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: did not commit a turnover in forty minutes of action.

1583
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: He rarely does, so Og gets it even though Brunson

1584
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: got a Cup tournament MVP. OG gets who boyd I

1585
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: think that's right?

1586
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 4: Yep, good, Yeah, that's a nice consolation trophy.

1587
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Og, Yeah, did you see that clip?

1588
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: By the way, Og being asked about it was something

1589
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: about like being a winner in Vegas, like it's going

1590
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: to feel great, eh, And he was like the person

1591
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: was trying to say, like, when you're a winner in Vegas, like,

1592
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: I guess obviously, gambling usually like Vegas is different, feels different.

1593
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: Og did not play with that question at all. He

1594
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: just like, what are you talking about? Nothing's different? Shut up?

1595
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: Like a classic OG's awesome.

1596
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a funny character.

1597
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah yeah, super literal man. Yes.

1598
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: So the question was you like winning? No, no, no,

1599
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: So they just imply the gambling is like it's more

1600
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: fun because it's They were just.

1601
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: They were trying to do a very generic like, hey, man, Vegas,

1602
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: when you're winning, it's got to feel better, right, got

1603
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: to feel different. But Og didn't understand why they would

1604
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: ask that question. Didn't get it. And then they even

1605
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: tried to explain it and they're like, no, it's just

1606
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: classic Og. I'm butchering the exchange but if you've seen it,

1607
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. You can picture Og

1608
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: shooting it. Yes, yes, not humoring the metal. Okay with

1609
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 1: that timing. Yeah, we'll get to pick them. Only two

1610
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: games on tonight.

1611
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 2: That's a quiet one, a super quiet one.

1612
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 3: I don't know who's dinging. There's two dings for two games.

1613
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 2: Because I immediately thought that we were going to pick

1614
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 2: the game that's on NBA TV because it is a

1615
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: bigger matchup of Memphis versus Minnesota. I would play, I

1616
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: would call it a bigger matchup than Cleveland Chicago. But

1617
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: I saw that leveland Chicago line, and I honestly I

1618
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 2: didn't know who to pick. The Bulls at home to

1619
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: the Calves five and a half point underdogs, so Clean's

1620
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: got to win by six. If you're taking them skeets,

1621
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 2: you were comfortable taken.

1622
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable. I'm not comfortable at all. You keep

1623
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: doing the opposite. Are comfortable. I've lost seven straight. I'm

1624
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: going for your record. I decided though, I think you

1625
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: got up to eleven. Did you go eleven straight to

1626
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: start that month?

1627
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was looking yesterday.

1628
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: I think you're rowing eleven.

1629
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 3: I think so too. Yeah, so I'm coming for.

1630
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: That streak of eleven straight losses. Actually, your may have

1631
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: been longer if you go back the month before too.

1632
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how you ended that well, I don't know.

1633
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, Uh no, I took the calves. Sure, I

1634
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: got to win by six. You know, they don't look

1635
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: all that great, but the bulls are stinky, and yeah,

1636
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: who knows.

1637
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure you got the bulls straight.

1638
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was not one where I was to be

1639
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 4: picking the Chicago bulls. But the last time I was

1640
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 4: in this situation, we were coming down to like.

1641
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 3: A head, like a head to head, me and you,

1642
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: and it was nuggets versus bulls, and I.

1643
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 1: Was like, I got to take the bulls.

1644
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they somehow pulled off a straight up money

1645
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 4: in victory.

1646
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: That was to send me over there.

1647
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 3: All right, right, yeah, last month maybe the same.

1648
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: We'll see, Okay, task you got the bulls and there's

1649
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 1: some talk of the payoff. I'll just call it a

1650
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 1: leftover Christmas gift. That might be where we're leaning in

1651
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: terms of the payoff. Do you even know what I'm

1652
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: talking about?

1653
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

1654
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: Left I would remember if we talked about it.

1655
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 2: The actual gift, the actual gift, the gift gift. Yeah, no, no, no, no, Yeah,

1656
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: well I know a gift. Yeah when you say gift, Yeah,

1657
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 2: would you call what our payoff is a gift? I

1658
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: guess you just did, but I wouldn't call.

1659
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 3: It a yah.

1660
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 2: We've done this before on the show several years ago.

1661
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 2: This payoff very similar. Yeah, I guess call it box related. God,

1662
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 2: you're in the same box. It's a different box.

1663
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: We're not doing it. Well, fuck it out, eat some cold,

1664
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: army sandwiches. That's all I'll do. Uh, that's what we're leading.

1665
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: But we're still open for suggestions for a payoff.

1666
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeap. Other suggestion was New Year's Baby.

1667
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: We've done New Year's Baby as well.

1668
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 3: Nothing else, nothing else out there. I've always wanted to

1669
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 3: do hanging upside down show.

1670
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: Looking around at the studs right now, dangling like mission impossible?

1671
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 3: Is showing us the tilta we could?

1672
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 4: Like?

1673
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: Is that dangerous? I don't know. Can you hang up

1674
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: side down for an hour? Like the blood It's gonna

1675
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: go all your time?

1676
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 3: You should curl up during breaks.

1677
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: We don't like breaks.

1678
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, grab grab a table, but yeah, these studs can

1679
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: handle on and forty forty lbs.

1680
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: Old. Maybe figure that out. Get Tony and Kyle back

1681
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: Rick something up up there.

1682
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: So you sound a little kind of a little tired,

1683
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: a little like, you know, it's this part of the season.

1684
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 5: Where are you? Are you upset that we didn't go

1685
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 5: to Vegas because when you asked that question, well, we

1686
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 5: didn't get it all. Not upset, but we didn't get

1687
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 5: to go to Vegas. You know, we missed out. I'm

1688
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 5: not trying to just go to Vegas.

1689
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: We wanted to.

1690
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could have, hear right, but when you asked

1691
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 2: that question that the reporter asked, O G. I don't

1692
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 2: really miss that having to stick a mic in people's

1693
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: faces and say, hey, hey, do you like when you

1694
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 2: get off the airplane where you hear the slot machine?

1695
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 3: Like just stupid questions like that.

1696
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: I hate that airport stepping off. I can picture that

1697
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: airport absolutely every square foot of it. I definitely can,

1698
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: because remember I once missed a flight and was at

1699
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: the airport all day long, hungover waiting to come back.

1700
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 3: Breakfast spot to the right, Cinebon to the left.

1701
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: Oh you go to a Ruby's diner or do you

1702
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: want to go to uh.

1703
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 3: Starbucks? In the middle of.

1704
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: It's a California Is it a California pizza kitchen?

1705
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 3: There was a California pizza kitchen. I think it changed

1706
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 3: into a.

1707
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: And there's a crappy bagel spot that's down the other one.

1708
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: You got that stupid now you got that cashless or

1709
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: not cashless thing at the bottom of the escalator when

1710
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: you got to get on the tram.

1711
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: And then you see the Australian ad for men down

1712
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: Under it under down Under.

1713
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 3: It's there every year. I guess they could do it

1714
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: every year. Very successful show.

1715
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like one of the places I could

1716
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 4: draw from memory one hundred percent.

1717
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 3: I don't like that.

1718
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: No, And that's why when you're like, you're upset you

1719
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: didn't go to Vegas. No, man, I can't believe how

1720
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: many times I've been to Vegas in my life. Yeah,

1721
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: way too many time.

1722
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: You used to take a picture of the Las Vegas

1723
01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: sign in that airport. Yeah, I actually missed. There's a

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Speaker 2: vending machine now in that airport with muff or cupcakes.

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Speaker 3: They're pretty fresh.

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01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know what you're talking.

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Speaker 3: You take a vending machine with cupcakes, they'd be ancient. Yeah,

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01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 3: that's true.

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01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 2: They put them in there daily. I just they icing,

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01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 2: they ice them and put them in there. They're not bad,

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Speaker 2: That's all I got.

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Speaker 1: It's just also such a depressing airport because you know,

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01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: you're you're waiting usually to fly out of those place,

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01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: and it's like a bunch of people have just been

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01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: in Vegas for way too long. Everyone's tired, and it's

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01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: like ninety people have lost money and everybody's exhausted. Yeah,

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01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: and we're you know, regretting decisions and like it's a

1738
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: weird vibe going on.

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01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 3: Would you agree it's more fun to be a winner

1740
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas?

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01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I absolutely would. I would, all right. Coming up

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01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: on tomorrow show This is Fune, we got another guest,

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01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: David Simms, hey from the award winning podcast blank Check,

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01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: is going to join us blank Check for that don't

1745
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: know review director's complete filmographies episode to episode TK. I

1746
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: know you're a huge fan, huge fan of blank Check,

1747
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: and I guess David Simms is maybe a fan of

1748
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: No Dunks, right, I know he's an NBA fan.

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01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 4: At the very least, he's an NBA sicko. Has he

1750
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 4: listened to No Dunk's unsure? Okay, but definitely listening to

1751
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 4: the basketball Jones in the start. Well geez, yeah, we'll

1752
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 4: have to check his listening statistics recently. But he's also

1753
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 4: a Knicks fan on top of the world as a

1754
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 4: Cup winner.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so that's on tomorrow's show. Will be joined

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Speaker 1: by David Simms.

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Speaker 6: It's hard not to go David, you know, and a

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01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 6: Griffin every interested in at all. They have the best

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01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 6: ad reads in the game, I think.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 4: I heard him say one time that he says David

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01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 4: like that so that people can know when to start

1763
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 4: fast forward, and I was like, that's brilliant.

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01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: It works, it works. Well. We'll talk to him tomorrow,

1765
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: so hopefully you'll join us at ten am Eastern here

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01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: live on YouTube. Didn't do a podcast soon after that. Otherwise,

1767
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: enjoy Survivor tonight the finale. It's going to be interrupted

1768
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 1: a little bit by Trump's presidential address to the nation.

1769
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: So hopefully this is this is gonna take like four

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01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: and a half hours tonight.

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01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 4: I'm getting my potatoes cooking when I get home because

1772
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 4: I got a stock up on an end.

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01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 3: There you go, but hopefully we got a good finale

1774
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 3: till then.

1775
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: Clipper bros.

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01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time turn up.

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01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us.

1778
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: And remember NBA players and teams have a limited time

1779
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: at half and I think that's why I. Spurs coach

1780
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 2: Mitch Johnson had a stopwatch in his hand at half

1781
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: when he was given his speech. It looked like a stopwatch.

1782
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: He had something in his hand. It's like, we got

1783
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: to get out there, we got to go out and

1784
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 2: war them up. I want to get to the bottom

1785
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Speaker 2: of that nice brace the day people