1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcast. Be sure 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: to check us out live every weekday from seven pm 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on Fox 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: Let's get this, Putties, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: Oh, rob G, that's right, Rober Wow. 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 4: Forget that other side of the glass, Alex. He's jumping 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 4: over here. Matter of fact, rob G, I don't even 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 4: know if you're jumping over here, jumping over there? 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 5: Are you doing two? Three jobs? What are we doing today? 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 5: Are you just? Am I just getting. 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 4: This version of you, the on air version of you. 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 6: You know what, You get a little bit of everything 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 6: because we got the dream team in the back now, 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 6: the big a Alex tyshirt in between podcast posts, and 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 6: Ian is stepping up, hopping to bruce the show. 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 5: I don't know. 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 4: Ian came in and already you know, Ian was feeling 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: himself on a Friday. Ian told you what he might 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 4: or might not do. He said he I might come 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: in there, I might do this. I don't know, I 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: might not You know it's Friday. We'll see how I feel. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 4: It is the couple kelvin Washington. That's right, Rob G 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 4: in the building in for Rob Parker, who, of course 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 4: Rob is on vacation joining baseball ball parks all around 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: this country. He'll be back soon enough, so hopefully he's 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 4: enjoyed himself. It's been a good week, Rob G. We've 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: had a handful of different people in so and a 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 4: lot of course to talk to as well. 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 5: And we got a lot to get to you. By 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 5: the way, Rob G. 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: The producer RG for him on Social ID couple FSR 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: and k dub live for myself, like to welcome in 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: the odd couple crew. We can't do this amazing show 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: without them. I guess ian I donated, Rob G. 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 5: I don't know. I was talking to you today as 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 5: a producer. 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: I don't know half and half producers today getting you 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: ready for the show. Then we got dj Ali Alex, 42 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: our engineer extraordinaire. 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 6: Who guilted you and to buy pizza for everybody. 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 5: I wasn't I wasn't gonna bring that up. 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: Guilted. 46 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 5: You know it's funny. Hold on, let me let me 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: get it all. 48 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: Let me I walk in today and there's a couple 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: of boxes already there. Then I felt some type of way, Oh, 50 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: he's just gonna get pizzas without me or you order. 51 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: I know, but for a second there I thought you did. 52 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: So we'll be ordering pizzas today, Alex. He's gonna cost you. 53 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 4: You're gonna have to show me a workout regiment. So 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: you're gonna have to give me like a ten minute 55 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 4: workout regimen. 56 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 7: Uh. 57 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 4: Before we get to that, all right, We got, of 58 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: course Steve the Sega gonna keep you updated on what's 59 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 4: happening around the sports world as well, so a lot 60 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 4: to get to. We got Andy Larson gonna join us 61 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 4: cover the Utah Jazz in the NBA at Large for 62 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: the Salt Lake Tribune. I don't know has As Bailey 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 4: showed up yet here y'all drafting me, but I we'll 64 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: find out about that. 65 00:02:58,840 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 7: Uh. 66 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: Some great conversation to happening in the WNBA, some stuff 67 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: to talk about there. And also Akil Augustine covered the 68 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: Raptors on NBA TV Canada for twenty plus years. 69 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 5: Some we'll say, some. 70 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: Rearranging, house cleft North, some house cleaning happening up north. 71 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 4: So a lot to get to, so buckle up for 72 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 4: the next few hours. We're gonna have a great one. 73 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 4: So Happy Friday to you and thank you for rocking 74 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: with your boys. 75 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 5: Rob G. We've been talking about Cooper Flagg over the last. 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 4: School several weeks obviously, but this week especially, And you 77 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: know I mentioned this yesterday. Before we get in all 78 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: the dissecting and breaking down who did what, who shouldn't 79 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: have did this, this will be kind of the last 80 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: time I say it, and then after that we'll just 81 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 4: be hard on them for the rest of all these guys' careers. 82 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: Again after last night, one more time, congratulations to all 83 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: the young men who got drafted. 84 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: Amazing moment for them. 85 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: Again, I say they they've worked their entire lives to 86 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: get there, and they're in a position that such a 87 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: low percentage of humans can be really not even know. 88 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: We always like to tie that to any sport, only one. 89 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: In any sport, there's a lot of people who say, man, 90 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: I want to be a lawyer. I want to be that, 91 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: and never go through with it. So for them to 92 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: actually be able to fulfill their dreams, we get congratulations 93 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: to them. 94 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, big fact, I mean just a couple of 95 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 6: days ago, Martin wi Ston on this share, we were 96 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 6: talking during one of the commercial breaks about, you know, 97 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 6: because you played high level high school ball, a lot 98 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 6: of guys you played with you that played in college 99 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 6: played in the NBA. So we're just talking, what is 100 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 6: the percentage of people who play in high school ended 101 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 6: up playing at a high level Division one You're like 102 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 6: maybe fifteen percent? Yeah, ten percent? 103 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 5: About that? 104 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, how much of those guys play in the NBA? 105 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 5: What point? 106 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: So just think about it's crazy, right, and to be 107 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: there and to get drafted and then NBA draft, by 108 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: the way, it's not the MLB draft, which is like Steve, 109 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: how many rounds are MLB draft seventy eight? Stuff like 110 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: seventy eight rounds and you're getting you know, he is 111 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 4: the guy. They just drafted this kid in the forty 112 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 4: ninth round of the MLB, like forty nine. But the 113 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: NBA is only two, you know, and and we already 114 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: know that only a handful of these guys are really 115 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: going to make an impact and really be in the league. 116 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: So it's just an amazing accomplishment. So I don't ever 117 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 4: want to belittle that are diminished that. So congrats them. 118 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: With that being said, though, Cooper flag now is the 119 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 4: guy for the Mavericks, which I don't know if Nico 120 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: Harrison is the luckiest man on earth, the most well 121 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: informed man on earth, meaning like, hey, man, do what 122 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: you need to, don't worry about it. We got you, 123 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: we'll take care of But you get the number one pick. 124 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: You know how we do. You saw what happened with Zion. 125 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: You saw what happened when Lebron left, they got Kyrie. 126 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: You saw what happen when and when Ad left, and 127 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: they got Zion. Just you know, let me go on 128 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 4: down the line. So I don't know if he's well 129 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 4: informed or the luckiest man, but here we are the 130 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: Calves have the number one pick. And the thing that 131 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 4: he said Nico Harrison, which was interesting is the two timelines. 132 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 5: This is almost like ro movie was that Looper? Do 133 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 5: you ever see Looper? 134 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 8: Nah? 135 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 6: I never seen Looper? 136 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 5: I And you saw Looper, right, Alex, No, you ain't 137 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 5: see yet. You saw Looper? Okay? 138 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 4: Bruce Willis And what's the other guy, the young kid 139 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: who played him? 140 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 5: Love it? Love it? 141 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 6: Hewitt, Joseph Gordon, love it? 142 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? At him? So it's like in the future but 143 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 5: in the past, it's been in the real time. 144 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: Then they both come together and then you see the 145 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: past with him and his confusing and that's what Nico 146 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: Harrison is operating now. He is playing Looper where he 147 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 4: says we're gonna be good. Now, we're gonna win, now, 148 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 4: we're gonna win in the future. And I said this yesterday. 149 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: I don't I buy what he's trying to sell me 150 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 4: on paper, because if I just listed the guys, you'd 151 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: be like, oh, that's a nice roster. But just you 152 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: just woke up from a COVID and I said, hey, man, 153 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 4: here's a video of this kid who's been playing his 154 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: name Cooper Flag. You see the video, but oh, he 155 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: looks nice. And I said, ad, first ballot Hall of Famer. 156 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 4: You know what he does on both ends of the floor. 157 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: You go, oh, nice, Kyrie Irving, first ballot Hall of Famer. 158 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 5: You know what he does? You said, ooh. 159 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 4: Then I go on to some young guys Lively in 160 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 4: Gafford and now Klay Thompson and some other people. They 161 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: have coming a PJ. Washington, really nice player. You like 162 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: what you see on paper? My thing is number one. 163 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 4: Kyrie Irving isn't playing right now. Kyrie Irvy might not 164 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: play until late February, could be later on in the spring. 165 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: And he's older coming off a serious injury, and you're 166 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: banking on him being to play with another guy who 167 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: was older, who was often injured in ad So to me, 168 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: the win now is kind of like if you say so, 169 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: everybody has to be injury free, and that team is 170 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: injury prone, including Klay Thompson. And also you're gonna be 171 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: banking on a rookie who I think is gonna be good, 172 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: but it will also be finding his sea legs in 173 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: the NBA. 174 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 5: So I don't buy. 175 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: Necessarily the win now as much as obviously Nico Harrison does. 176 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: But he has to sell something to the fan base. 177 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 4: He has to get them energized, and again that's his 178 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: job to be trying to win now. But I'm just 179 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: we would be worried about the way they're constructed, which 180 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 4: is why it was so hard on him trading Luca, 181 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: is that you only got older with Anthony Davis. You 182 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: paired Anthony Davis with the Kyrie who's got injured, and 183 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: guess what happened last year Anthony Davis get injured. The 184 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: first game, he's back. A little bit later on in 185 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: the season, Kyrie Irving gets injured. So to me, and 186 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: you know, you said here, how many times I was 187 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: saying that. How many times I say, you got two 188 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: guys who are often injured. Boom, both of them get 189 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 4: injured in the same year. So that had been my concern. 190 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: But there's other points that you can point to about 191 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: Cooper flag that. Even Jason Kidd said that. We'll get 192 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 4: to it in a minute. But your thoughts on the 193 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: two timelines, the looper of it all is I'm calling it. 194 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 6: It's just not realistic. And the most recent example we've 195 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 6: seen of this is the Golden State Warriors. If people saying, well, 196 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 6: they want a championship in twenty twenty two, what he 197 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 6: maden't work? If you watch that team, they fell ass 198 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 6: backwards into it. They tried so hard to say James Wiseman, 199 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 6: Jonathan kaminga, Moses Moody, We're gonna build those guys, while 200 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 6: also being in contention with Steph clay Andre when that 201 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 6: run took off. None of those three guys were important, 202 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 6: No young guys. It was the old Wiley Vets. Jordan 203 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 6: Poole was a revelation. Nobody was explaining anything from him 204 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 6: when they dropped him, laying the first round. 205 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: Heavy on the Wolves, And yeah, exactly. 206 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 6: And Andrew Wiggins finally realized his full potential. He only 207 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 6: had it for one season, but he realized it, and 208 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 6: you could argue he was their second best player during 209 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 6: that playoff run. And the problem that you run into 210 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 6: with those two situations is you have the Wiley Vetts 211 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 6: and this HiT's gonna be Anthony Davis, who has a ring, 212 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 6: so he knows that he wants one more than probably 213 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 6: these guys want their second, the first one. Klay Thompson, 214 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 6: who has held bent on proving that Golden State made 215 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 6: a mistake by low balling him in that contract offer. 216 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 6: Kyrie Irving reportedly is gonna try to rush back as 217 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 6: soon as possible. Whether that's you know, smart on his 218 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 6: term short and long term, I don't know, but he 219 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 6: wants to come back and win right away. How on 220 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 6: earth are you gonna be able to satisfy all three 221 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 6: of these guys and still do what Jason Kidd just 222 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 6: said earlier today did in the press conference. Let Cooper 223 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 6: flag make mistakes, Let Cooper Flagg develop on the fly, 224 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 6: where he mentioned and will play this down here in 225 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 6: a second. Yeah, turn the ball over. I don't care 226 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 6: I need to do that. We're gonna put the ball 227 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 6: in your hands and let you pass to the wrong guy, 228 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 6: make the wrong read, throw the wrong pack like. You 229 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 6: can't have both because inevitably, when you get to April, 230 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 6: May and June in the postseason, because I think they're 231 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 6: gonna be the playof Cooper, Flag's not gonna be allowed 232 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 6: to make those kind of mistakes anymore. You can't say, Ay, Coop, 233 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 6: you're gonna be our new Yohannis, you're a new point guard. 234 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 6: Walk Kyrie's down. Do what you gotta do. Well, you 235 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 6: can't do in the Western Conference because if you trick 236 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 6: things around, you're no longer a top six seed. Now 237 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 6: you're in nine, ten, eleven, and then what, by. 238 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 4: The way, I hate I don't mind the play in. 239 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: I don't like the seventh seed being in the play in, 240 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: meaning I get the eight. You're the last of something. 241 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: If you're the last of something, so then you were 242 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: close to not even making it. Okay, great, let's have 243 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 4: the eight to nine and it makes it fun, right, 244 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: who was exciting to play it? 245 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 5: I'm okay with that. 246 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: If I were, I don't like the seventh seed, especially 247 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: in the Western Conference, because the seventh seed you might 248 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: be ten games above five hundred and you're like, man, 249 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: I cannot make the post. 250 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 5: We've seen that happen before. 251 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 4: I believe the Warriors happened to them once, or they've 252 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: gotten to play in and lost to the Lakers. I 253 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 4: believe it was like, I've never been a fan of 254 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: that the playing worked. 255 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 6: What was it during the bubble year when they said, 256 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 6: if you're within six games of the eight seed, we 257 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 6: only got ten games off season? Yep, sure, but now 258 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 6: you had to allow to see you to think of 259 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 6: the Eastern Conference where eleven and twelve, we're like thirteen games. 260 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: Back and we got a shot, and once we get 261 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 4: into tournament, right, you never know. He's like, no, I know, 262 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: you guys suck and you shouldn't even have an option 263 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: and a chance to be in this at that. So 264 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: all right, I want to let's play this sound real quick. 265 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 4: You mentioned Jason Kidd, one of the great point guards 266 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: of all time. Looking at Cooper Flag as maybe a 267 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: taller point guard, let's se what you have to say 268 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 4: about that. 269 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 8: I want to put him in at the point guard. 270 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 8: I want to make him uncomfortable and see how he 271 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 8: reacts being able to run the show, being able to 272 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 8: play the two, play the three. He's he's comfortable playing that, 273 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 8: but we want to push and I think he's going 274 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 8: to respond in a positive way. It's all right to fail, 275 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 8: It's all right to turn the ball over. We've talked 276 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 8: about that, you know, just understanding the guys that I've 277 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 8: been around that are being young from Giannis giving him 278 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 8: the ball and he failed, but he wanted to come 279 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 8: back and have the ball. So I'm excited about giving 280 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 8: him the ball against the Lakers and see what happens. 281 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 6: What will happen, Rob, I'll tell you what's gonna happen. 282 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 6: He's gonna have a real problem on his hands because 283 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 6: if you look at that roster in Dallas, they got 284 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 6: seven legitimate front court options that would play on a 285 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 6: decent team, right Cooper Flag, Anthony Davis, Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively, 286 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 6: PJ Washington, Naji Marshall, and what's the other from Miami, 287 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 6: Kayla Martin. Yeah, all every one of those guys, you 288 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 6: can argue should get a minimum fifteen to twenty minutes 289 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 6: on an average NBA team. I think you're gonna have 290 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 6: a real difficult situation in Dallas where you're gonna allow 291 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 6: Cooper Flag to develop the way you want him to 292 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 6: develop while keeping that two timeline track. When you have 293 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 6: I could argue right now at least three or four 294 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 6: guys who deserve minutes at the front court positions ahead 295 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 6: of him. So unless they decide, Cooper Flag, you are 296 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 6: our small forward, moving forward, point blank period, Anthony David, 297 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 6: you don't like plank center, you are five. Cooper Flag 298 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 6: is our four. That's what we're gonna do. That's how 299 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 6: we're gonna maximize this team right now. That's how we're 300 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 6: gonna maximize our Cooper Flag timeline. And unless they do that, 301 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 6: I don't know if we're even gonna see Cooper Flag 302 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 6: reach his full potential, much less the team. 303 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: So I actually disagree with you, Rob g our first disagreement, 304 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: because I think what he's trying to create is not 305 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: that he's a point guard in the sense of Magic 306 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: Johnson Isaiah Thomas, a traditional point guard. I think what 307 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 4: he is looking at and looking at success over the 308 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: last ten to fifteen years. If you look at the 309 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 4: Warriors when they were winning, everybody always said Steph Curry 310 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: the greatest point because Steph Curry's not a point guard. 311 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 5: Stop it. Steph Curry is a combo guard. 312 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 4: Right, Steph Curry for the first run the first seven 313 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: eight years, didn't even bring the ball up. 314 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: You know who brought the ball up? 315 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: Onguadala, Leonardo Barbosaving, Sean Livingston, Draymond Green. Those are a 316 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: bunch of other guys brought the ball up for him. 317 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: And so where I think there where he's going with 318 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: this is I think he's saying, I don't need you 319 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: to be me Steve Nash, Chris Paul, some of the greats. 320 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: What I do need is in this current NBA guys 321 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: are out. Pascal Sia can get the ball, he can go, 322 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: he can be on the break. And I think he's 323 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 4: looking at the successful teams. If you look at the 324 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: thunder SGA doesn't have to stop the whole entire game 325 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: to go get the ball. And I'm gonna tell you 326 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: a team it doesn't work for the Lakers. What happens, 327 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 4: Lebron has to stop, come get the ball. Pre Luca, 328 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: it always had to be him, right Lebron, Ron, You 329 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: still run like a freight trade. 330 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 5: Just go go. But he has a hold on wait. 331 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 5: Let you know, he has to do his little handwipe 332 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 5: on his jersey. Let me get the ball, let me 333 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 5: take it up slowly. 334 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: I think Jason Kidd wants this to be like the 335 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: bulls of the nineties, Ron Harper, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, 336 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: Tony Koukoch all these guys can get the ball and 337 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: bring it up and go, the Warriors of their all. 338 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: These guys can get the ball and go, the thunder 339 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: Sga Wallace, it can be Caruso, j dub anybody even check. 340 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: Get the ball and go. And I think that's what 341 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: he's trying to create, so that they can get some 342 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: better pacing. 343 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 5: They can get they don't have to always have a set. 344 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 4: And I think also knowing Kyrie, your best ball handler 345 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: is not going to be back for some time, I 346 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: need as many people making good decisions and being able 347 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: to control a break and get stuff going. So that's 348 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: what I think he's trying to create, is he's looking 349 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: at the current NBA, whether it be the Houston Rockets 350 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: as well, this current NBA. The Pacers think about it, 351 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: it's like six guys who can bring the ball up. 352 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: And I think he's said the Pistons even had that. 353 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 5: You know, just go. 354 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be traditional early mid two thousands, 355 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: you know, the early nineties were like one or two guys. 356 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 5: That's it. 357 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 4: You literally get a rebound from the four or the 358 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 4: five traditional where's my point guard? Here you go. You 359 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: have to Now I run down. He's saying, bring it down, 360 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: go go, go, pacing, keeping the defense on their heels. 361 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: So I think that's what the what Jason Kidd is 362 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 4: trying to create. And part of that will be Cooper 363 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: Flagg is gonna be athletic. He's gonna get you seven 364 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: six to eight rebounds. I don't want you to have 365 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: to think all the time, find somebody, just go. And 366 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: I think he's trying to create that mindset for him. Dude, 367 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: you don't have to wait. And it's not my time, 368 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 4: it's not my possession. No, go create, get some If 369 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: it's there, it's there, and that's how you get those 370 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: Pascal Siakam easy buckets. Sometimes I ain't gotta draw a 371 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: play for you, I gotta it just happened in transition. 372 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 5: You made a play, You made the right decision. 373 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 6: I would agree with you if their roster wasn't built 374 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 6: with four centers and five power forwards, because who who 375 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 6: on their team? And that you bring me Pascal Siakam 376 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 6: and the Pacers. Almost everybody on their team save for 377 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 6: Miles Turner and their backup center Thomas Bryant, former Laker, 378 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 6: is capable of doing something like that. If you look 379 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 6: at Dallas and assuming Kyrie doesn't come back for a while, 380 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 6: it's well, I don't even specially then when he has 381 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 6: a contract right now. It's Max Christy, it's Klay Thompson, 382 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 6: it's Anthony Davis, it's Daniel Gaffort. Like, none of those 383 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 6: guys are known as creators. So what I think that 384 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 6: they would be best served, assuming they're serious about trying 385 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 6: to win now and they really want to get this 386 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 6: done and and really go for this two timeline thing, 387 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 6: is consolidate your roster. You don't need to have three centers, 388 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 6: you don't need to have seven guys competing for two spots. 389 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 6: So unless I like they're playing this three D chess 390 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 6: game that they kind of fell ass backwards into with 391 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 6: the whole drafting situation, and I just think they're gonna 392 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 6: find themselves and they have enough time with they be good. 393 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 6: But it's just such a murky situation for them. I 394 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 6: don't think it's working out. 395 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, and that's a good thing 396 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 4: to me though, of having all those bodies, because what 397 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 4: are the next Lakers need size? 398 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 5: You know? 399 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 6: I bet you they trade with them again though, but 400 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 6: at that. 401 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 5: Point it will be the Dallas Lakers. 402 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 4: But I'm using as an example of some teams still 403 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: need some size, and hey, if I got something that's 404 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: in demand, I can supply it. 405 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 5: You know that. I'm up right now, all right on 406 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 5: the way. 407 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 4: Also, Cooper Flag mentioned something Rob g we were saying 408 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: about the luxury he has that other top picks don't 409 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 4: off to have. 410 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 5: We'll get to that. 411 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: And if you want to jump in eight seven seven 412 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, 413 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: are they in a win now and win in the 414 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: future situation? And do you like j kids thought process 415 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: of letting Cooper Flag learn to play the point and 416 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 4: just go and make mistakes in real time eight seven 417 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 4: seven ninety nine on Fox. 418 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 5: Will take your calls on that as well. 419 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: See I couple Kelvin Washington, Rob G and to build 420 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: it in for Rob Parker Fox Sports Radio. 421 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 422 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 423 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 424 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 425 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio. 426 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 4: It is the Couple, Kelvin Washington, Rob G and for 427 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: Rob who is out on vacation. 428 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: When's he coming back? Robb G. 429 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 6: He's back on Monday. And if you were in what 430 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 6: was it the New Jersey area, he was speaking at 431 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 6: your high school commencement today. 432 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 5: Wow, did he over under? I'm nothing, gon do it? 433 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 5: Do it? Oh? 434 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 6: When I was at this school, when I'm the Hall 435 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 6: of Famer, if my name's over there, my name's. 436 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 4: Over there, and look what I said, Look what I did. 437 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 4: And then you know when I was used to sit 438 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 4: right there and it's crazy. Oh God, you're gonna tell 439 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: us something about the journey? Oh God, And it's crazy. 440 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 4: I've happened to bro this print out picture of me 441 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty three. 442 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 6: By the way, mlbbro dot com. 443 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: If you want more information, that's the hat I'm wearing 444 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 4: right now with this divincement. If you talk though, and 445 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: some of you in about five years, I'll see you. 446 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 5: What's the line, Alex with the I D if it's 447 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 5: a sideway, ID, it's not for me. 448 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, we missed your Rob all right, I 449 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 4: was gonna get to We're not. 450 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 5: We don't have we don't have time to get to now. 451 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 4: But Cooper Flag was saying Rob g that he feels 452 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 4: blessed to not have to be the centerpiece. And it's 453 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 4: interesting because so many draft picks. I don't think it's 454 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: any more prevalent than two positions, whether you're the star 455 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 4: pick of Cooper Flag, a zion in the NBA, or 456 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: a star quarterback. Because if you're bryce young and it's 457 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: like everybody know that, the whole city is excited. You know, 458 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: if you're Caleb Williams, the whole city is excited. Everybody 459 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 4: you're getting ready to come be this thing. And it's 460 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: so hard, you know, it's so hard to change a franchise. 461 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 4: It's so hard to be that. 462 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: Mind. 463 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 4: You in Cooper's case, you're eighteen, or maybe some other 464 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: guys are nineteen or you're twenty, and an entire city 465 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: is like, hey, come change everything that this organization is 466 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 4: general manager of this president of basketball. Everybody's been not 467 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 4: being able to do, not these veterans, but all of 468 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 4: a sudden, you have to come do this, And I 469 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: just think it's it's such a difficult position. So of 470 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: him understanding that he's privileged, I think, I think I 471 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: like the position he's in where he gets to go 472 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: in learn they have you mentioned the roster. They have 473 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: a good team. They should be good. Maybe not great, 474 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: maybe not a top five, seeds sixty, but a good team, 475 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 4: good coach. 476 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 5: And he gets to walk into that. Right, you don't 477 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 5: have to go save the Wizards. 478 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what his outlook on this thing. It's 479 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 6: very mature to be honest with you. But in many 480 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 6: ways you could argue it's like the anti Ace Bailey, 481 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 6: where he's like, Hey, I want to come in and 482 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 6: be part of a team. I want to win. I 483 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 6: want to do whatever it takes for this franchise, for 484 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 6: this group. Based on what we're hearing in the reporting 485 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 6: around as Bailey is, I want all the buckets, I 486 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 6: want all the shots. I want the least amount of competition. 487 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 6: I want to make sure I get mine so I 488 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 6: can get this second contract and get paid it's incredible 489 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 6: that you see the well basically become the two hallmark 490 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 6: marquee names of this NBA draft, and they seem to 491 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 6: have completely opposite viewpoints towards the league and their career. 492 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what, man, We're gonna have an 493 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 4: extended conversation about what's happening with Ace Bailey a little 494 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 4: bit later in hour three. 495 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 5: So looking forward to that. 496 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 4: All right, let's go go to Steve right now, because 497 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: Andy Larson on the other side of what's trendy? 498 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 5: Hey, Steve, Hello there. 499 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 9: Angels manager Ron Washington will remain on medical leave for 500 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 9: the rest of the season. Washington is seventy three in 501 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 9: his second year there. The Angels have one of the 502 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 9: late gamesting Washington. The Mets are at Pittsburgh in the 503 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 9: bottom of the second and scoreless. The New York Mets 504 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 9: are first in the nl East half game over the Phillies. 505 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 9: By the way, Philadelphia is at Atlanta tonight. News from 506 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 9: the Met's not good today. Predictably, the pitcher Griffin Canning 507 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 9: had surgery for a torn achilles rain delay at the 508 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 9: start for Minnesota at Detroit. Rays are out to a 509 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 9: two to nothing lead at Baltimore Yankee scoreless in the 510 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 9: second against the A's Yanks. First in the AL East 511 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 9: half game over Tampa Bay. Toronto is three back. Blue 512 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 9: Jays are leading one nothing at Boston in the bottom 513 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 9: of the first. Boston Red Sox have lost five games 514 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 9: in a row. Five WNBA contests tonight, including Minnesota at 515 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 9: twelve and two about to start at Atlanta, and Indiana 516 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 9: playing at Dallas. Caitlin Clark out again with a groin injury. 517 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 9: US Men's soccer plays its Gold Cup quarterfinal on Sunday 518 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 9: against Costa Rica. That'll be on Fox TV from Minnesota. 519 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 9: The FIFA Club World Cup quarterfinals start on Saturday. The 520 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 9: Florida Panthers playoff MVP Sam Bennett signed an eight year extension. 521 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 9: The NHL and its players union agreed to an extension 522 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 9: of the CBA through twenty thirty. The NHL regular season 523 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 9: will increase to eighty four games per team in a year. 524 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 9: The Utah Jazz say first round or Ace Bailey, We'll 525 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 9: report on Saturday, with a news conference on Sunday. Practice 526 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 9: on Monday. The team's rookies will then fly to Summer 527 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 9: League from Salt Lake City. 528 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 5: Back to you, all right, Steve, Thank you so much. 529 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 4: I couple covin Washington, Rob g and for Rob on 530 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: his funky Flashback Friday. And we're joined now by Andy Larson, 531 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: who covers the Utah Jazz in the NBA at Large 532 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: for the Salt Lake Tribune. 533 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 5: Andy B. 534 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: Larson on X give him a follow Andy, what's up man? 535 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: Happy Friday? How you doing hey man? 536 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 7: I'm doing good. 537 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 5: How are you doing good? 538 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: Man? 539 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 4: We've just had a little quick conversation about Ace Bailey. 540 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 4: We'll have an extended one a little bit later on, 541 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: but we'll start there. Just what do you make of 542 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: the last few weeks? Face Bailey? Obviously very talented not 543 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: I mean, you could argue just about his talent as 544 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 4: Cooper Flag. Some people think more talented than Cooper Flag. 545 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: But here we are where the story is and just 546 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 4: how good he is and how good he can be. 547 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 5: It's well, he didn't take any visits. 548 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 4: Well now, he might not even be showing up to Utah, 549 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: and he didn't want to get drafted by Utah, but 550 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 4: yet they still drafted him. What's been up with this 551 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 4: journey that landed him there with the fifth Pig? 552 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, I think it's about the people you put 553 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 7: around you a little bit, and it's hard to do 554 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 7: that when you're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and now Ace is 555 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 7: still only eighteen. But like, you know, he's worked with 556 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 7: Omar Cooper is his manager, and kind of has been 557 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 7: the guy representing himself, representing Ace to NBA teams throughout 558 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 7: this process, and I, you know, I think as someone 559 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 7: who's kind of seen himself as a future star for 560 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 7: a long time, Omar kind of bought into that and 561 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 7: then said, hey, we should dictate where you go, and 562 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 7: ultimately wasn't successful in doing that. You know, I hope 563 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 7: that Ace to be drafted by Washington, New Orleans or Brooklyn, 564 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 7: and that I wasn't the case. The Jazz, you know, 565 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 7: pick him at number five, which I still think is 566 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 7: probably a pretty good basketball situation for him. But it 567 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 7: seems like, look, you know, the Jazz do hold the 568 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 7: cards in this a little bit. And as a result, 569 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 7: kind of everyone fell in line over the last twenty 570 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 7: four hours say hey, yes, you know, Ace is coming 571 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 7: into Salt Lake City, is going to be working out 572 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 7: with the Jazz, you know in the next two days, 573 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 7: doing a press conference on Sunday, right like this is 574 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 7: all happening, and so, you know, I think for Ace, 575 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 7: he said all the right things. You know, I talked 576 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 7: to Ace at the combine, talk to him on draft day. 577 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 7: I think he's excited just to kind of get to 578 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 7: work on the basketball side. It was just for those 579 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 7: around him didn't see that Utah was the best place 580 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 7: for him. And you know, that's the tough thing about 581 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 7: drafts is you don't always get to go where you 582 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 7: want to go. It is your career is determined by 583 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 7: kind of this random order that that makes it so 584 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 7: that you go to whatever team picks you. 585 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 5: Andy. 586 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 6: So one of the big talking points coming into the draft, 587 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 6: especially about Utah was you know, they tried tanking and 588 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 6: obviously the lottery balls and I'll bound their way. But 589 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 6: one thing that they've been trying to do with their 590 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 6: new head coach, with Lori Market and John Collins, a 591 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 6: lot of the guys out there is build a culture 592 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 6: that we want to get out from this seller do 593 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 6: all the situation we want to build. Forwarding it back 594 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 6: to Jazz basketball that was very successful for a very 595 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 6: long time, were you saying, yeah, so were you surprised 596 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 6: with that in mind that the guy they ended up 597 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 6: choot taking at number five was Ace Bailey, who, by 598 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 6: all indications, is more about his own you know, career, 599 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 6: in his own advancement than he is about building any 600 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 6: kind of culture. That part of the reason why he 601 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 6: went to Rutgers that is somewhere else, is because he 602 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 6: wanted to get his So were you surprised that that 603 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 6: was the pick? 604 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, two things on that one. I mean, I think 605 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 7: the Jazz, as desperately as they want to create a culture, 606 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 7: also want to create a co winning basketball team and 607 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 7: just frankly just need more talent, right, neither kind of 608 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 7: star level talent that kind of unlocks the rest of 609 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 7: the roster to some degree. So I think that was, 610 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 7: you know, the primary concern. But look, I've talked to 611 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 7: Awesome Ames about this and he's been pretty clear that 612 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 7: the they believe in a Bailey as a person as well, 613 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 7: Like they think he is a gym rat. You know, 614 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 7: everyone around as talked about how hard he works and 615 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 7: that's how he got to be the shooter and athlete 616 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 7: that he has become. So they're not that worried about 617 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 7: Ace's personality. They think that like, hey, you know he's 618 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 7: yes he's young, and yes he has some people around 619 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 7: him kind of giving bad advice. But ultimately this is 620 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 7: a kid who will work hard and will kind of 621 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 7: create and actually even help the culture. So I don't 622 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 7: think they see him as like a worry from a 623 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 7: culture point of view or a bad fit from creating 624 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 7: the culture they want to be. It's it's just that 625 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 7: he's young and has you know, agents and managers kind 626 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 7: of giving him the wrong advice at this point in 627 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 7: his career. 628 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 4: Andy Larson, our guest covers of Utah Jazz and NBA 629 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: for the Salt Lake Tribute. Let me tell youself, do 630 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: what I think, guys, I think Danny Age, if you 631 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 4: watched you know, any any documentary or anything about the 632 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 4: Celtics when he was there as a player and then 633 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 4: obviously when he was running the basketball operations, one thing 634 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: he learned from, you know, and he was even saying 635 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 4: he was a little bit more cutthroat than red Eyurbuck 636 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: in that he's such a business mind, meaning like, hey, 637 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Like he even knew it was tinny cause 638 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: we had on the burden in Mchaelen Parrison, those guys 639 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 4: too long. He's like I thought they asked me. I 640 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: told Rad we need to get rid of him, like 641 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 4: he's just that kind of guy. I can rid of 642 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 4: Paul Pierce KG. The reason I say, which is the 643 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 4: opposite of the Lakers, Andy, As you know, the Lakers 644 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 4: will hold on. It's a family run. They just historically 645 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: not anymore, but they would hold on. The reason I 646 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 4: bring that up is I think Danny Ainge is savvy 647 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 4: enough to say, there's no way I'm gonna let it. 648 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 4: Could have been a number one draft pick in another draft. 649 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: That's how talented he is. Just go to another team 650 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: and if we'll give it a shot for a year 651 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: to it. If I don't like him, he can go. 652 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 4: If he starts pouting on like you, then you can 653 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: go and I'll go get some nice pieces for you. 654 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: I just think that's the way his mind works. He 655 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 4: he's not overly loyal to a player. I think he 656 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: can like a player and I love him, and he 657 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 4: can you know, I'm not fully committed to you as 658 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 4: much as I am winning. So am I wrong for that? 659 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: I mean that's all I literally heard it out his 660 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 4: own mouth and documentaries and stuff, his approach to this. 661 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: I'm not saying he doesn't like the person that he's 662 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: you know, these the human being that some of these 663 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 4: guys are, but he's all about what makes sense for 664 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 4: the team and the organization. 665 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so, which is you know, kind of 666 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 7: rare to see from a former player. But you're right, 667 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 7: he's as cutthroat as an EGM in the business, and 668 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 7: I think that's what's made him a good GM. You know, 669 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 7: the Kevin Garnett Paul's Tears trade worked out terrifically for Boston, 670 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 7: and then they went for the guys that, you know, 671 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 7: Jason Tatum May to get him when they had the 672 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 7: number one pick to trade back get more picks, get 673 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 7: Jalen Brown, a guy you know, not a lot of 674 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 7: people had at that thought in the draft at that time. 675 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 7: Is incredibly good Jimmy, you know. And yes, it meant 676 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 7: that they traded you know, Isaiah and and just Isaiah 677 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 7: Thomas and some beloved franchise figures, but they made the 678 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 7: move that they thought was best for the team. And 679 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 7: so yeah, you know, I think we see that a 680 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 7: little bit where and aust names just the new president 681 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 7: of basketball operations in Utah, Danny Ain't is the CEO 682 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 7: of basketball to this kind of goofy title, But like 683 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 7: they are pretty clear that that's kind of what is 684 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 7: what it takes to win in the NBA. Is that 685 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 7: cut through mentality, is going for the younger guys, is 686 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 7: going for players who you think have the chances to 687 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 7: be stars moving forward rather than the stars of yesterday. 688 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 7: So I do think we're seeing that to some extent 689 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 7: with the Jazz with you know, certainly he traded Donovan 690 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 7: and Mitchell, Donovan, Mitchell and Rudy Gobert away, and you know, 691 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 7: it started this rebuild which has been pretty slow so 692 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 7: far but maybe ramps up a little bit in the 693 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 7: next couple of years. 694 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 6: Last one for me, Andy real Klick. You mentioned at 695 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 6: the beginning of the interview that as much as they 696 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 6: want to build a culture in Utah, they want to 697 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 6: get back to winning basketball. There's only one problem with that. 698 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 6: As good as this class was in twenty twenty five, 699 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 6: they're talking about the twenty twenty six draft class as 700 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 6: being historically great, especially you know'n get from byu aj 701 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 6: Depatz that it is supposed to be you know, one 702 00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 6: of the next Feenix, right, he's the guy. So I know, oh, 703 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 6: you mentioned that that Utah doesn't want a tank because 704 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 6: it hasn't really worked out from in the past. But 705 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 6: they do have about sixty million dollars in expiring contracts 706 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 6: with John Collins, Collin Sexton, and Jordan Clarks. All those 707 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 6: guys would have a lot of value I think to 708 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 6: a lot of teams. Could you see a situation where 709 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 6: the Angels kind of go back on their words. I 710 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 6: know we said we want to win right now, but 711 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 6: have you seen the draft class in twenty twenty six. 712 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, I mean they said they don't want to 713 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 7: tank next year. I don't think that necessarily means they 714 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 7: want to win next year, right right. I think that 715 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 7: means that they want to trade those guys away that 716 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 7: they had to frankly just sit out when they were 717 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 7: healthy last year in order to lose as many games 718 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 7: as possible to try to get Cooper Flagg. That didn't work, 719 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 7: but they you know, Ryan Smith, owner is the owner 720 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 7: of the Jazz is Byulm Danny h Byo alum. Like 721 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 7: these guys know a d depons and what he brings 722 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 7: from what you can bring to the Jazz. Then you 723 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 7: have Cameron Boozer, who Carlos Boozer is now a Jazz scout, 724 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 7: and then you have the fact that the Jazz have 725 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 7: a top eight protected pick, which they owe Oklahoma City 726 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 7: if they are ninth or below in the draft next year. 727 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 7: So look, you know, I don't think that the Jazz 728 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 7: have real, really any intention to be competitive on it 729 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 7: good next year, you know. And it's they the West 730 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 7: is so good that I think they can be in 731 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 7: that bottom four of the West pretty easily. So you know, 732 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 7: I think they can kind of accomplish both goals, where hey, 733 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 7: you trade away those veteran guys, you allow the young 734 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 7: players on your roster to play, you're still probably not 735 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 7: all that good in the scheme of things, and you 736 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 7: have a pretty good lottery chance that one of the 737 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 7: top three guys in the twenty twenty six staff that yeah, 738 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 7: do make a difference, and you pair them with Ace Bailey, 739 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, maybe you've got something cooking. 740 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 4: Well that's gonna be a long time if somebody's in 741 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: that kitchen cooking Andy, I don't know. 742 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 5: I don't know. 743 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 4: Thanksgiving dinner and happening, you know, the big Sunday cookout 744 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: in and happen anytime soon up there. 745 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 7: Look, I think it's it says a lot that they 746 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 7: gave Will Hardy a six year extension right like this, Yeah, 747 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 7: is gonna be. 748 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 6: A hang around for a little whether he winned too 749 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 6: much like two years ago and the hit who whoa, whoa, whoa, 750 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 6: whoa whoa. You better relax. We were the two seed 751 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 6: for too long. Let's get back to the tam where 752 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 6: we need to be. 753 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 7: Yep, yep, you're exactly right. 754 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: All right, Andy Man, appreciate your time. Enjoy the rest 755 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 4: of your Friday and your weekend. Brother, Thank you so much. 756 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate you guys. 757 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 5: All right, So on the way too, so Friday. 758 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 4: I'll tell you we feel good Friday, funky flashback Friday. 759 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: But sometimes life throws your limons and you try to 760 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 4: make lemonade, but it comes out like apple juice. It 761 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 4: ain't really working out. Rob G's had one of those days. 762 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 4: We're gonna be there for our brother rob G. On 763 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: the other side, it is the odd couple Rob G 764 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: is in for Rob. Stick with your boys is Fox 765 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: Sports Radio. 766 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 767 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 768 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen. Live. 769 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: It is the odd couple kelvin Washington, Rob g and 770 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: for Rob on a funky flashback Friday. 771 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 5: And I don't even know I'm with it. This one 772 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 5: goes out to Rob Parker, native New Yorker. Oh, I'm 773 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 5: feeling it. I don't know what it is. 774 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: It's giving me Major nineteen seventy seven and I'm filling 775 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 4: the vibe right. 776 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 5: Sixty eight. No, it ain't no sixty eight, No way 777 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 5: to sixty eight. No, it's how long I've been covering 778 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 5: the league. 779 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 4: Okay, Now hey's covering the league since nineteen sixty eight. 780 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 5: Ah Man, we got a whole lot. 781 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: Like I said, left in the show, looking forward to 782 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 4: a couple of chats we're gonna have in a little 783 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 4: bit as well. Coming up in a couple of the 784 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 4: hour three, we're gonna talk to a kil Augustine who 785 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 4: cover the Raptors on NBA TV. Some moving happening there, 786 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 4: some cleaning house happening above the border, So chat about 787 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 4: that in just a little bit. 788 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: But right now it is time for the tire Rack 789 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: Player of the. 790 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: Day Touras at the plate Easterns, it's a high fly 791 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: ball to right deep going Backrooker at. 792 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 9: The fence looking up hen it's gone a whole burn. 793 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 4: That ball just kept carrying the right Clapora Torre is 794 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: right there with the home run and as your tigers 795 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 4: raight now we got it, we're also watching tigers right 796 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 4: in front of us. 797 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 5: Two. 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Usually you called me. 809 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, rob G, you know a long day. 810 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 4: You know, I'm doing the morning show on the news 811 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 4: and all that I called you was up, what's up? 812 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 4: Rob rob Gina building shit day baby? And you were like, hey, 813 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 4: what's up? Dub Yeah, all the what's up? One of 814 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 4: those days? Man? 815 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 2: You know what? 816 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 6: It started off beautifully right, I had I got to 817 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 6: the one of my gutters girls at the zoo to 818 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 6: day she had a great time with in laws. My 819 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 6: other one, I got it wrong. Time to daycare, had 820 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 6: time to get a workout in. I had Chipotle for lunch. 821 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 6: Chipotle is my life. Everything's doing good, pretty good, No, 822 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 6: I got I got a kids Build your Own. 823 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 5: The key to kids Build your Own can be adults. 824 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 6: It's pretty good, and especially if you don't want to 825 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 6: spend a lot of money. I was like, hey, it's 826 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 6: six bucks. I'm expect I already knew because alex It 827 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 6: text me before that you were buying pizza. Somebody don't 828 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 6: eat too much. So I'm gonna get a little bit 829 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 6: so I could be ready for later. That's besides the point. 830 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sorry. 831 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 6: Continue Okay, So I get home, get the show prep 832 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 6: all done. I put on my new tenth anniversary wedding watch. 833 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 6: You know, look it's beautiful too. By the way, left 834 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 6: the house early so I can stop at the pharmacy 835 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 6: get the new upgraded We go ving so I'm about 836 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 6: to get the real, you know, fully fledged weight loss medication. 837 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 6: On the way into the studio, there was a tire 838 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 6: blowout by a semi truck in the second lane. I'm 839 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 6: in the second lane. Car in front of me gets 840 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 6: out of the way. I see it because there's cars 841 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 6: on either side of me. I don't I can't change lands. 842 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 6: I just gotta slam on the brakes or I just 843 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 6: got to drive through it. I figure it's probably more 844 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 6: dangerous slam on the brakes than if I just drive 845 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 6: through it. Gun it to what is eighty eight miles 846 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 6: an hour, blow right through it. Apparently a Tesla is 847 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 6: not made to take that kind of impact, because the 848 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 6: whole bottom cover of my car was dragging on the 849 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 6: freeway for the next mile and a half. I had 850 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 6: to pull over to a local hardware store by some 851 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 6: zip ties, so I looked like a broke college unit 852 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 6: right now driving into the studios. 853 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 4: Well, you know what the worst part about that, or 854 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 4: the part of at least I think everybody listening can 855 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,439 Speaker 4: relate to, is when you're having a day that's going 856 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 4: so good as beautiful. I he's great, I got this done, 857 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 4: knocked this out, took the baby here, everything, and it's like, no, 858 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 4: not today, not today. But hey, everybody's been in that situation. 859 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 4: I committed you when you told me, because I say, 860 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 4: at least you realize it's probably not safe. 861 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 5: For me to swerve or hit the break. 862 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 4: I'm oh, I'm gonna have to brace for impact because 863 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 4: there's a lot of people who swerve. Yes, and we 864 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: all have been the recipient of said swerve when some 865 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 4: mun just swerves in your lane or or that you know, 866 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 4: and you might have to swerve out of their lane. 867 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 4: And so I can say, on my half of so 868 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 4: many people and whoever was on the road with your design, 869 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 4: we appreciate that. But on the phone with you telling 870 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 4: me I ended up seeing them, it wasn't as bad 871 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 4: as I thought it was. 872 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 6: Listening to you, Expoge, it's more annoying because it's just 873 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 6: it's literally a piece of plastic that's covering up like 874 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 6: the little bottom area. And then, of course, you know, 875 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 6: because Tesla's are not regular cars, and that's what they 876 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 6: take them to a regular mechanic. I probably could if 877 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 6: I wanted to, But I say, go through the Tesla 878 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 6: app We'll get you set up with an appointment. We'll 879 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 6: get this knocked out. The estimate they give you right 880 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 6: there on the apple, Oh, it's only give about two 881 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 6: undred and saty final, All right, cool, I'm not ideal, 882 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 6: but I could pay it. The next appointment is not 883 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 6: for two weeks, so I'm be driving with the ziplock 884 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 6: zip tag. 885 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm not gonna lie. The zip blocks was crazy 886 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 4: for two weeks. You gotta cut the ziplocks because Alex 887 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 4: he's got the zip blocks and they're just they're like 888 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 4: all the way look like they you look like. Now 889 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna use that, but yeah, you need to cut 890 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 4: them right now. That's the only other part of ADS. 891 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 4: You're not too bad, but it's crazy when you have 892 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 4: stuff like that. Happened the craziest car experience I had 893 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 4: and it wasn't me And it's not apples apples of 894 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 4: what you're saying. 895 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 5: Coming home from spring break. 896 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 4: Twenty some odd years ago, and we see we hear 897 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 4: on the radio, we finally start getting bad. We drove 898 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 4: all the way down to the Florida. We're driving back 899 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 4: into Michigan and we're hearing the radio. It's going down 900 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 4: the up and smoke tool up and woked you up. 901 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 4: It smoked to eminem this person like Dann. It kept, 902 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 4: you know, on our whole drive. But here we hear 903 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 4: it Ian. Guess what happens when we see on the 904 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 4: side of the road their bus and engulfed in flames. 905 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 4: Eminem's tour buses on flames. Well, the whole time we're 906 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 4: coming up the freeway, coming up through the way, we 907 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 4: hear eminem tour bus, I mean Eminem on tour tour 908 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 4: tour is going down to night big console. 909 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 5: His bus was on fire. 910 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 4: We get out the car and we go, oh snell 911 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 4: like it's him in there, and we literally. 912 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 5: Go try to help him. 913 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 4: As soon as we get out the cars, like a 914 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 4: movie scene, all the tires on the bus explode. 915 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 5: Wow because of the fire. So wow. 916 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 4: It was just a crazy experience. And then I'm like, Joe, 917 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 4: what if we didn't save m. 918 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 5: What if we did? This is pre social media, y'all. 919 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 5: We didn't know if it made it. We thought we'd 920 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 5: let em down for the city.